PORTLAND, Maine — Eric Rustad had a good life. He was a proud father and loving husband, a productive software developer with a bright future. It’s a life Rustad is painstakingly climbing back toward.
But now he’s worried his safety net — in the form of Portland’s multifaceted Health Care for the Homeless Clinic — will be taken away because of Gov. Paul LePage’s proposed cuts to MaineCare.
His alcoholism snowballed from casual drinking, to lying about how much he was consuming to physical and mental destruction. He couldn’t open letters with a letter opener because his hands wouldn’t stop shaking. He lost his job and his wife finally kicked him out.
“For a year and a half I was in a sort of walking comatose state,” Rustad recalled. “I had an awareness of what had happened, but my emotional awareness had been deferred.”
But then he remembered. Rustad and his then-new wife were riding bicycles together along Winn Road in Cumberland. He playfully told her that biking isn’t as effective an exercise as running, and she sped ahead just to prove how much of a workout it could be.
More memories trickled back. Good times, friends and family — his young daughter — began appearing from the ether, first sporadically, then regularly. The trickle of memories became a flow.
For Rustad, after the warm memories came the cold reality. Instead of contentment, he was left with this echoing thought: Oh God, what have I done?
The memory of the bike ride came back. Then another memory. Then another.
“I cried for six months,” he said. “It was all the harm I’d done, the sense of loss and deep grieving.”
This is the tipping point where Dr. Shuli Bonham said drug addicts and alcoholics, without proper help, often fall back into a life of abuse. Bonham is the medical director at Portland’s Health Care for the Homeless Clinic, a Portland Street institution where Rustad — and hundreds of others like him each year — eventually ended up.
“A lot of people do well for awhile, but then they finally get clear enough to remember what they’ve lost due to their addictions,” Bonham said. “And people will do anything to avoid dealing with those memories.”
“Most of the people I see here did really well for themselves at some point in their lives,” Bonham said. “They were successful. But there’s this concept that homeless people just appeared out of nowhere and are this blight on society. There’s no recognition of where they’ve come from.”
Or, Bonham said, where they’re going. Portland city officials, including Mayor Michael Brennan, have argued that Gov. Paul LePage’s proposed MaineCare reforms will sap so much state revenue from the clinic that it may have to close.
Douglas Gardner, director of Portland’s Department of Health and Human Services, told the Bangor Daily News that of the clinic’s approximately $1.9 million annual budget, about $785,000 is funded by MaineCare reimbursements. And although some of that revenue is safe from the governor’s proposal to eliminate state health care coverage for childless adults, Gardner said “the majority” of MaineCare reimbursements to the clinic will be cut if the Legislature accepts LePage’s reform package.
The governor’s administration is proposing the overhaul of MaineCare — the state’s version of the federal Medicaid program — to help address a $220 million shortfall in the Maine Department of Health and Human Services budget.
His proposal called for tightening eligibility requirements, eliminating services and repealing coverage entirely for thousands of MaineCare recipients to bring Maine’s program closer to national averages. The projected impact of the governor’s plan would be a loss of health insurance coverage for 65,000 MaineCare recipients.
The administration has defended the cuts as necessary to curb spending on a program that has swelled beyond national averages and far beyond taxpayers’ ability to pay for it. Administration officials have noted that since 2002, Medicaid enrollment in Maine has grown by 78 percent while the state’s population has grown only 7 percent.
LePage has more recently said there are more welfare recipients in the state than income tax payers, seeking to drive home the point that the state’s systems are financially unsustainable.
But those who have fallen as far as Rustad did, Bonham said, don’t have jobs to qualify for employer health insurance and can’t afford to buy it themselves. Bonham acknowledged that people in those positions must assume a certain amount of “personal responsibility” for their predicaments, but she said eliminating health care for many of them would leave them no path to become productive members of society once again.
“So many people say, ‘You’re an addict? Go deal with your addiction,’” said Rustad, who is now sober, lives alone in an apartment, is allowed to see his daughter a few times each week and earns money doing odd jobs. “It’s very easy for us to cast stones at addicts and alcoholics, but it’s pointless to do so. We demonize the alcoholics and the addicts, [saying] ‘Why don’t you just stop drinking?’ Not everybody is the same. It’s naive to say, ‘I have to figure it out, so they have to figure it out.’”
After being checked out at the clinic, Rustad learned that alcoholism was just one of his ailments. Among other problems contributing to his inability to keep his life together were social anxiety and panic disorders.
Other clients who stopped in at the facility this week told similar stories of being unaware of health problems until clinic staff, admitting the patients through MaineCare provisions, made life-saving diagnoses.
Mark McForbes, for instance, said he learned at the clinic he has diabetes. Jon Pomerleau said he’s HIV positive and faces thousands of dollars in monthly medication bills he couldn’t afford without his MaineCare coverage.
Appointments at the clinic are typically not set up too far in advance, as the clientele can be unpredictable, Bonham said. But nearly all manners of care can be given at the site, including behavioral health, medical and dental services — a suite of programs that allows patients several contact points and familiar faces in the building and creates a network capable of detecting signs of trouble in the clients’ mental or physical health on the road to recovery.
“We want to take care of things before they turn into crises,” she said, “which can happen very quickly for many of these people.”
Without the clinic, Bonham said, many of the patients would wait until their conditions became impossible to ignore, and if they seek help at all, would go to an emergency room. There, health care costs are statistically much higher, in part because hospitals must cover the costs of treating patients who are not insured — such as those Bonham said would be cast away from the Health Care for the Homeless Clinic.
“I would have cost the state a whole lot more money had the clinic not been here,” Rustad said. “For a lot of people, it’s not a matter of going back out and getting sick again. It’s a matter of not making it at all.”
Bonham said the clinic, located in an old box factory on Portland Street, provides full medical or dental visits for 2,285 patients per year, and many more less formal interactions to point potential clients toward other DHHS resources. The medical director said the clinic has become a key hub for people discharged from both prisons and the military, where access to the appropriate medications was regulated but is now left to the patients to figure out.
She said 41.5 percent of the clients are backed by MaineCare, and the “vast majority of those who aren’t in that 41.5 percent don’t have any insurance at all.” Gardner said the remainder of the clinic’s budget is covered by “federal grants, other reimbursements and city funds.” Clients who have incomes pay on a sliding scale.
On a recent Monday morning, nearly a dozen seats in the waiting area were full. Some patients sat quietly, while others exchanged pleasantries. Members of the clinic staff appeared at staggered intervals from down a short nearby staircase or around a corner, calling for individuals on a first-name basis to join them.
“If we lose our MaineCare, we’d be looking at a situation where we’d have to drastically reduce our services or even shut our doors,” Bonham said. “I don’t know what we’d do. And I don’t know what our patients would do. There aren’t really any other options for them.”
Rustad now welcomes back the warm memories and has suppressed urges to drink. He worries that if MaineCare cuts force the clinic to close, others like him won’t get a chance to turn their lives around.
If the state can’t find the resources to work with Portland’s Health Care for the Homeless Clinic, he said, “they’ll end up having to collaborate with the morgue.”



people need to face the consequences of their actions.
it should not be up to the taxpayer to help them out of a problem that they got themselves into.
That’s kinda like saying: “i was texting and crashed my car, the taxpayers need to get me a rental car so that I can work towards buying a new one.”
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well people can get sick by accident and things like diabetes can be hereditary. But I do not think anything more than what people need to stay alive is necessary.
Yeah, why should taxpayer dollars pay to protect your house in case it catches on fire, or for police to protect you, no one forced you to buy a car, why should tax dollars be paid to maintain the roads for your car? Why should tax dollars be spent educating your children? You brought them into the world, YOU educate them. Why should tax dollars be used to keep emergency medical care available to you, if you’re going to have a medical emergency CHOOSE to have it at a hospital during a scheduled appointment. Why should we have to pay for an infrastructure that benefits anyone but ourselves? Why should we pay people social security just because they paid into it? Why should we help anyone in need? Those abandoned babies should have chosen to be born into a rich family. Why help? Why do anything for anyone other than yourself?
That’s kinda like saying: “I care about humanity, we should set up some kind of system so we’re not a third world country.”
Socialism works great until you run out of everyone else’s money.
AMEN!
Stop Taking it Then!
Walk to work on land that YOU rent!!!!
Presumably he/she pays for it with their taxes.
Socialist!
Their a socialist haha. Coming from someone who wants to raise taxes and keep things the way they are. You and the rest of the Libs on here must be panicking since the Legislature returns on Wednesday to start the process of booting all of the moochers off the system. Can’t wait to party the day they throw all of these bums off of these programs.
Gooba
Maybe you should be doing the same yourself.
No pity for people who drink or do drugs. You should have asked for help before you blew your job and all your money. Don’t expect everyone else to pay for your mistakes.
Same with capitalism,
Thats what happened to the US,
“Everyone” ran out of money,
Them pesky 1% capitalist got it all!
Everyone who works and pays taxes have the right to be protected buy the programs they pay taxes on. Get off your lazy butt and start contributing to the program. The more people that pay in, the more money there will be to help those who really need it. It’s time to kick the deadbeats to the curb.
because i am the tax payer i paid for the service…. really that hard to understand???
Who says you pay ENOUGH taxes? Someone who pays 2 times more tax might think you don’t deserve services, just like you think people who pay no taxes should get no services.
If everyone paid at least something, we wouldn’t be having problems. Even low income should have to pay even $100 minimum. Surely, there shouldn’t be people who pay no taxes, PLUS get back a refund from earned income credit. Who ever thought up giving a refund on money that was never withheld in the first place should be shot.
Everyone should contribute to the services that they receive. There are many who contribute to services that they have never, and never will receive. It all goes to support others, or their children.
Wouldn’t it be great if we could decide what percentage of our tax money went where? Sort of like a 401K? Eventually, the programs that we don’t wish to support would dry up and blow away. That would truly be government for the people by the people.
People who have children, obviously, would contribute more to the school system, as it should be. People without children may contribute a larger percentage to the upkeep of roads, or police, or fire fighter services.
Easy for you to say until you are in their shoes. Not all homeless are addicts. Why should they “face the consequences” of a recession and falling in hard times? And tell me… why is it the people who keep pumping out babies that are safe with their mainecare and welfare when the childless adults who aren’t taxing a system with more children they can’t afford are the ones we say should suffer?
If what lepage wants to do will most likely even cause people to die. People need to get thier hands on the meds that they need!! What do diebetics do? People with high blood pressure? What is LePage trying to get people to go around and have people getting pregnant just so that they can get the meds that they need to survive?
diabetics should loose weight and exercise..that will take care of diabetics and high blood pressure. Be in control of your destiny, do not let destiny control you.
What do you do with those people that can’t exercise because of medecal problems ??
I would recommend they watch what goes into their mouths. People in wheelchairs can exercise, so pretty much anyone can lift a weight of some sort and move even though limited.
Losing (not “loose”) weight and exercising might help diabetics but doesn’t necessarily cure it. Also, I don’t believe either of those help with high blood pressure. My husband is fit and trim but needs medication for high blood pressure or he would die of heart disease like his father. I pay for my health care but would not deny someone their insulin or high blood pressure medicine. That’s like giving someone the death penalty for a misdemeanor. I worry for my 89 year old mom who has dementia and a hip that needs replacing but she is too high a risk. Currently, she is in assisted living and gets the help she needs and is paying for this herself. However, when she runs out of money in two years, she will get booted out as the State says that she doesn’t qualify for nursing home level care. Hmmm, she can’t remember to take her necessary meds, needs help every two hours to use the toilet or she sits in her pee/poop for hours, falls and can’t get up, needs assistance walking and with all her personal care. The family does as much of this as they can, but we need to work full-time and most of my siblings live out-of-state. She will end up falling, breaking her hip and then require nursing home care at a much higher price than what it costs for assisted care. This is nuts! While I agree that people sometimes cause their own problems, if we don’t give them a way out (as in this story), then we will pay a much bigger price later. The emergency rooms must be bracing themselves for the onslaught. Kudos to Dr. Bonham who must be unselfish to do what she does.
no one wants to remove your mother from Maine Care or children. You are being accountable and purchasing insurance and taking care of your husband with medication. You are to be commended for that. People need to be accountable for themselves and it should not fall on your shoulders or mine. Sorry for the spelling error..yikes get a life…
I have a life, thank you. (sorry to be the grammar police, “loose” when people mean “lose” drives me nuts and sounds uneducated) And, yes, the Governor’s proposal will make it so that my mother would not qualify for assisted living when she can no longer pay for it herself. There is an article in the Lewiston Sun-Journal about Clover Healthcare’s assisted living program and how this proposal will affect people like my mother. This is the program that she is currently in and is paying for with the last of her life’s savings. When she ends up on Mainecare in a few years, she will have to leave. http://www.sunjournal.com/news/city/2011/12/28/clover-seniors-worry-cuts-means-theyll-be-homeless/1133152
Please hope your mom never has to enter a nursing home. I know a lady who was paying $100,000 annually for a nursing home. it was a dump and there was no respect for the patients. I visited her everyday for several hrs a day for 2 yrs.
My mom just moved in with my sister and knows we’d take her in here if she wanted. We need to take care of our own , make a way , we can’t afford to pay for care that should begin in the family. Stay home , take care of your mother. Maybe sell the boat or extra car etc…find a way.
You do realize that there are two types of diabetes, don’t you? One of which is not caused by lifestyle factors. Besides, for those that do have diabetes caused by an unhealthy lifestyle, exercising and losing weight will not always cure it.
How about MS?? Whats your prognosis there Dr, Valgal10 ???
Sorry no sympathy from me. Your drinking problem is your issue and we shouldn’t be paying for your free healthcare and etc… Sorry.
You don’t have to be a sympathetic person. A persons “drinking problem” is OUR issue, not just theirs.
It wasn’t until I become educated on addiction and alcoholism that I was able to understand more and more. I am neither a drug addict nor an alcoholic but both affected my life. I became determined to understand addiction and alcoholism and all that it implies. I did not want either to be a part of my life and I could not understand why I couldn’t love this person enough or FIX ; what I saw as the problem.
I began going to AA and many of the things I didn’t understand or believe became clear. These are not bad people and I saw so much love in those rooms. It blew me away. These are good people wanting nothing more than to get well. They deserve that chance. It benefits many ,when one person gets sober. It makes it a better place for all of us.
I have been sober for over 17 years and I did it though AA and guess what there isn’t a cost for it. I’m tired of the excuse it’s a disease and it nothing like cancer so you are barking up the wrong tree.
I have been drunk for 40 years and still supported myself!!!
I’ll bet no one ever poured a drink down my throat ! AA shows people how to get responsible for themselves. AA members are self supporting. This fellow in the article has been going to this clinic since 1999 ( according to the article ) about time he stands on his own two feet ! By the way , try Alanon.
Shakes head…. so many people on their high horses thinking they are so much better.
Get to know these people suffering and see that these are good people that had bad things happen and coped with it in the wrong way. They need help. At least they want help. They don’t have babies just for a monthly check. If we take their mainecare and these clinics providing sliding fee care close these people will use the we’d and cost this stateway more money than they already are
Sorry to you and the 60 people who clicked like on your comment. Your comment lacks compassion and you are oblivious to the issues of homelessness. Evidently, you can read and write, but greatly lack in comprehension. Let’s hope, shall we? That you, or someone you love .. never has to face these issues; making that lack of comprehension of yours a tad more realistic. Or? Shall we pray that you do? Ahhh, who knows if even then you would understood? Perhaps .. just perhaps your comprehension level could increase enough to be part of a solution. gee whiz what a thought.
Jon Pomerleau said he’s HIV positive and faces thousands of dollars in monthly medication bills he couldn’t afford without his MaineCare coverage. ((( and we ~state and tax payer’s~ have to pay for his thousands of dollars in meds cuz he was stupid and did’nt wrap it or shareing needles))) people who r disabled or really mentally ill (mentally as in can not live on ur own or unsupervised) and childern should get mainecare. i agree with some of lapage’s proposals( but i still don’t care for the man) need to reform welfare as well lady’s if u want to have a baby then pay for it don’t get preggo while u r on the welfare system.
that’s one of the easiest ways to stay on the welfare system though!
it’s the reason that lewiston is experiencing a “baby boom”
the people that catholic charities brought in know how to screw the system.
so now catholics are helping people help themselves to benefits? That’s rich! And it’s very thin ice to be treading upon, the catholic church is one of many denominations that help the poor, actually most do.
I take it that you don’t have faith, other than the devotion to the mighty dollar.
Stunning to learn, but that the “Catholic Charities” has little to do with the Catholic Diocese. Its another social service organization that has learned how to hijack the state funded social service money machine.
Wrong. Read the last paragraph “Affiliations: …Catholic Charities Maine’s roots are in it’s Catholic tradition. Our programs serve as the social service affiliation of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland, which sponsors many of our community faith based services”
http://www.ccmaine.org/info.php?info_id=2
You are so wrong my friend. But what about the others? Bulletproof’s post is offensive to my faith, and many others.
in case you couldn’t comprehend my statement:
“the people that catholic charities brought in” refers to the group of people that now inhabit lewiston.
but, since you’re from that organization, could you please enlighten us on why your organization thought it would be a good idea to welcome thousands of welfare cases into the already deteriorating city of lewiston? Yes i know of the propaganda piece about the somali’s revitalizing the area, which is farthest from the truth, but really, what was the reasoning behind that? Did your organization get money from it?
Catholic orphanages were opened to house priest’s and nun’s children. It’s a fact.
No actually its all the drug heads that are using the system as a career choice.
Yeah, who could resist living on scraps and handouts. They give you LCD TVs and fancy cars and nice clothes. No, wait, they don’t. They give you a few hundred a month to try to exist on. you describe it like it is the American dream come true, living on the dole. Do you even understand how hard it is to get by on these paltry benefits? It is a chore to do or have anything at all.
You should travel a bit, neighbor. You would see that the US is not frivolous with social benefits, we are among the cheapest and least generous in the world. What a joke.
Yeah it’s hard to get by on these “paltry benefits” that’s why when I drive through CapeHart there are better vehicles than mine.
They surely aren’t affording nice vehicles on the benefits they get. Maybe they are all drug dealers! Would that agree with your prejudiced sensibilities? You don’t know what you don’t know.
I’ve heard stories also about CC….and other non profit organizations bringing people to Maine for Welfare…..this should be looked into more.
yes it should be looked into but I don’t believe there is anything illegal about doing this.
Thank you Catholic Charities. Maybe the Catholic Church should support them.
Ummm, the birth rate in the US is the lowest it has been in a century. Recession does not make people make babies to get more benefits. Poor economy reduces birth rates. the number of people seeking assistance increases when the economy slumps (due to job losses, mostly), but birth rate declines.
This is BS argument. Not dealing in facts, Monk.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/27/us-birth-rate-sets-record_n_697131.html
http://www.sunjournal.com/city/story/1030623
“One reason for more schoolchildren in Lewiston is the Somali population, which continues to grow. English Language Learner students now make up 20 percent of Lewiston’s student population of 5,000.”
Most Somali families have 6 or more children.
sounds like i’m right. again.
You confuse the issues. You claim people have babies to stay on welfare. Then you say Somalis have large families, traditionally. It seems to me tradition is the reason for those pregnancies, not increasing welfare payments. There is no welfare system in Somalia. You have proven nothing. IN fact, you have weakened your argument with your new information.
for gods sake. If you don’t believe me and the numerous articles on the web about the population growth and the relation to being on welfare then go to the lewiston dhhs office and observe for yourself.
you’re contradicting well documented facts with your perception on how things should be and not how they are.
There is nothing that can be learned by simply observing. The circumstances of poverty are different in every case. Only one full of prejudice reach conclusions so quickly. I have a hunch about several aspects of your personality based on your comments but I reserve judgement. I do not know you or why you have strong feelings for the poor and immigrants who likely did no harm to you personally. It seems that we are better off that you are not a case worker. Until you walk a mile in another’s shoes….
What do you say to the people that are only working 2 or 3 days a week that can’t afford health care ?
“Yes! We have no Bananas” ?
I’d would tell them they have time to find another job. If you are truly that poor your medical will only cost you about $5 per week. Less than a six pack or a pack of smokes.
how does medical only cost $5/wk?
They can’t refuse you at the emergency room. If you pay $5 a week no one will bother you.
That is the No Coverage policy, I see. $5 per week for life and you saddle the rest of the population with the real costs. Hmm, I think that might be what got us to the place we are at.
What put us here is the liberals wanting everyone on the dole. A welfare state is easier to control. Look in the mirror and you will see what I’m talking about.
That is a ridiculous generalization. Look in the mirror? You don’t know a thing about me. When people are as quick to reach conclusions without evidence, we call them prejudiced.
That could be the only job that they can get did you ever think of that ?
If you want to work you will work. It might not be what you want to do but there is work out there. Oh, my bad it’s easier to demand a hand out than it is to work. Have you noticed lately that they don’t ask for a hand out, they demand it. It is their God given right to be taken care of by someone else. After all, they didn’t ask to be born.
Like i said that mite be the only job they can get an than there are other people that will never get hired for one reason or another. What will happen to older people one the law kicks in were insurance can charge older people more than younger people . Do you think they will get hired. What about the people that have ongoing medical problems do you think they will get hired
Based on the last insurance quote I got, I would have to smoke 12 packs a day to spend as much as a health insurance premium. Spare me the BS.
Even if you work 40 hours a week, if your employer does not offer you a group plan, it is unaffordable. Period. The cheap policies only cover catastrophic coverage not routine medical issues.
Yes you are right an when the regulation come off on insurance an the can charge older people more an people that have ongoing medical issues there cost will go way up .
I agree…..save the
PNMIs, they can’t live on their own….This story is why the truly needy are getting short changed….
PNMI’s are being switched to Waiver homes…its taking awhile because section 21 housing waiver is closed to new people. All people currently living in the PNMI’s will have to be put on section 21. I’m not sure this saves the state any money — in fact if they keep the same rate of funding per client in a home, it will cost a lot more for them to live in the home. If the state would get moving on paying for level of service needed it would spread the money out to others needing housing. Right now the state pays the same amount per day for someone who needs 24 hour care or a person who can be by themselves for up to eight hours a day and can pretty much take care of themselves. Lots of changes can occur to help make sure more people can be supported by the same amount of money…but, no one asks the people who actually work at the street level. They need to stop sitting around their table in offices with their doors shut and get out on the working level and ask questions, they’d find out a lot.
as someone told me, they never listen to the people on the front lines.
I was doing a little research today and I came across the following quote and article by the US census
bureau regarding Maine’s 2009 fiscal year, “Maine led the nation in state
and local government spending on public welfare as a percentage of total
spending (24.1 percent)”. http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/governments/cb11-179.html Great example of why the welfare system needs to be revamped.
we pay more on this because of the population we have-(elderly, disabled), lack of employment not cause people are bad
that may be true but there is not one person out there that doesn’t have a story to tell about how they were in line at the grocery store and the person in front of them paid with food stamps while on their cell phone or buying olbster, exp meat, booze and cigarettes. If you need subsidized housing, can afford a cell phone or to smoke and drink, then your abusing the system and wasting government money that should be going elsewhere or to people who really need it.
Excuse me but I think there are more elderly and disabled in Florida than there are here ! It is very easy to get benefits here and it’s easy to use and abuse the system.
I wish the state would stop adding new babies to the TANF grant when someone is already on the TANF program. I don’t even hear this being suggested by the Governor.
Cutting funds that pay for HIV meds will cost us much more later. Most HIV+ people who are on meds are not likely to spread the disease due to the low viral count. Off the meds, the virus quickly replicates and they become far more infectious. If the patient then goes back on the meds, they do not work as well, if at all. Saving money here costs many fold later and creates a public health problem that could have been prevented.
We finally have the ability to end AIDS within a decade, but we will not accomplish that. Instead, we are more likely to see a resurgence due to these irresponsible policies.
Not to sound cold hearted BUT—- Why is his being a drunk and lost everthing a problem of the state( which are the taxpayers )
He made a choice and the state wasn`t holding a gun to his head and saying drink.
He needs to get a job and start paying his own way. If you drive by the homeless shelter in Bangor, there are several people standing outside smoking and tipping back a drink in a brown bag. My point, if they can afford smokes and booze then they can afford housing and food. Make them do community service for the roof and food over their head.
Did anyone notice a man with HIV is getting free dental work and plates.
That is something I can`t afford for my family and have to pay 100% out of my pocket.
Maine welfare system needs to be re-vamped and get rid of the bums and abusers
All the guy has got left in life is Free dental work and you envy him???
Get a life!!!
There isn`t any envy here or pity coming from this taxpayer
Just wish if he is taking out of my wallet I could claim as a dependent on tax return
Would you be willing to pay for mine ?
I probably did!
I paid taxes fo forty plus years and never whined about it!
Would you be willing to do the same?
I guess I have too. I’m 62 years old and have been working since I was 14.
3 more years and someone else will be paying your way.
But only because you did for your elders.
What goes around comes around
Unless them greedy conservative politicians get there first!!
wow….just wow….God forbid someone get shown some kindness and get some dental care
People tend to show “kindness” when they have enough money to take care of their own families, and have more money left over. When so many are in survival mode, and can’t afford dental care for themselves, they have a problem paying for it for others who contribute zero for their own welfare.
The same goes for many other services. It’s tough to pay to heat someone else’s home, when you have no idea where your next oil delivery is going to come from, and your thermostat is down on 60 degrees all the time.
Wow…just wow…people like you would just take, take, and take some more.
I hope the politicians read your comment. The remarks you made are right on for so many of us tax paying , voters in this state. Lepage is on the right track, we can’t support others if we can’t support ourselves. If the system keeps on the way it is,many more of us will be applying for benefits.
Great comment , I recently got an estimate for over $9000. in dental work and can’t afford it on my monthly retirement check. I do however get just a little to much to qualify for free or low cost dental. I also keep paying taxes so these folks can receive these benefits. Hardly seems right to me !
His teeth are his own issue, be accountable, be accountable, be accountable….just saying…
Thats a personal problem!! What a concept that actions have consequences.
You are absolutely RIGHT. The Governor’s actions will have negative consequences for us all.
Wow, what a concept – “actions have consequences”. You must be one of those judgmental, rotten-to-the-core, fundamentalist, religious conservatives.
Since most conservatives seem to be religious I have one question for you. The part where they say “love thy neighbor” I looked and looked, but I couldn’t find the part where it says “As long as they are straight and pay their share of taxes.”
Religious conservatives tend to be fundamentalists, and at it’s rotten core, Christianity is as perverse a moral system as any.
The Bible is clear: feed, clothe, and shelter the poor. It also says a man must work for his pay. I’m OK with workfare instead of welfare !
Perhaps we should take all form of charitable work out of the hands of the government and return it entirely to churches, synagogues, and mosques. These organizations would be free to establish whatever systems they like for how they dole out money that is freely given by persons who believe that alcoholics, for example, who take a drink without someone holding a gun to their heads, are helpless victims who require monetary intervention from others.
Let me get this straight……..a guy drinks himself to the point of becoming an alcoholic (I don’t want to hear the crying about it being a disease), and NOW he might lose his taxpayer funded healthcare.
Wow, feel entitled much? As stated, actions have consequences. He could be trying to turn his life around and all of that, but I still do not see how that ENTITLES him to taxpayer dollars to help him do so. I wish him well in life, but that doesn’t mean he gets free healthcare.
I await the next “we are paying for these people one way or the other so we might as well just give them free everything”
If he lost his entitlements, he’d straighten his life out very quickly.
Nope!!!!
I had a drunken leach inlaw relative living with me until I kicked him out. He lived on a park bench until the next fool picked him up.
Forty years later he is living with his mother!!!!!
Mom should have taught him to support himself years ago. As long as someone will pick up the tab someone wll take advantage of it. Take away his choices !
She did,
He went into the service where he fought the “” War on Drugs””!
He lost!
OMG, come on this is such BS this guy drank himself into oblivion and now he expects us to pick up his tab. **ll NO, go get a job counting cans at a recycling center or work at McD’s but who do you think you are asking me to pay for your choice to use drugs. That would be like an obese person saying that the gov’t should pay for plastic surgery. Give us a break!!!!! These bleeding heart liberals need to get out of Maine before there is nothing left for the average person and everyone is on the dole.
Having a heart at all brands one liberal nowadays.
It is disheartening to see that amorality and callousness is now acceptable in public. Cold and selfish beliefs like yours used to be considered inappropriate in mixed company.
You advocate for a world where you can drive to work and pass the shanty towns of starving neighbors at 70 miles per hour and feel nothing, no shared obligation, no commitment.
Without compassion for our own, we are just well dressed savages.
To all of those coming to Maine for the freebies………move along, move along………
health care is not an entitlement program….get over it and be accountable…
Every person should be entitled to healthcare.
Why?
Because we all get sick and suffer without it. We don’t like to let
animals suffer. Maybe we should allow YOU to decide which mother or
child or grandfather gets to suffer through a treatable illness and
which do not. You can make the call that the poor diabetic lose his leg from a small infection that could have been treated for under $50. Then, you can decide if he is worthy of collecting disability. If you would be uncomfortable making these decisions, it is not reasonable to pass that on to someone else and let them do it for you. It is immoral if you make it. It is immoral if you elect someone else to make it. It is just plain immoral.
But you support letting a government bureaucrat do exactly that. To decide what care individuals will receive or not receive. Where is your moral outrage over Obamacare making those decisions for us?
You obviously know nothing about the Heath care reform law. The law that was passed was written by the Heritage Foundation. Obamacare makes no decisions about care, it is about the payments and coverages. You really can’t be that divorced from the reality.
We better build some larger emergency rooms….
head to Massachusetts,their the number one welfare state after Maine
So they will end up in the hospital anyway who will pay for it then they can’t, I would think it would put hospitals out of business,a hospital is not suppose to turn them away
Give them a bus ticket for Florida and it will be alot more warmer and there health may be better for them during flu season. Take the pressure off the maine tax payers.
A disaster can happen to anyone, even conservatives. You could lose your job, go bankrupt, become homeless, develop diabetes or some other serious illness.
Right now, it may feel rewarding and righteous to slash social services and say mean-spirited things about suffering people. But tomorrow, when it’s YOU that needs help, you may realize you’ve cut off your own nose to spite someone else’s face.
There’s a lot of truth to what you say about disaster happening to anyone, but if it happens to me it won’t be the result of alcohol, drugs, or some other reckless and stupid personal choice.
My point is that if and when something horrible does happen to you (and I pray it does not), the social services you will need will no longer be available–they will have been removed in order to avoid helping people whose miseries we believe are self-inflicted. To spite those other people, we’re being asked to kill services we ourselves might need one day.
I don’t think that the spending cut proposals are motivated by spite.
I think that a human tendency to be spiteful is being appealed to by politicians who want the cuts to go through. Read the comments on this page–so much spitefulness. The politicians in favor of cutting social services seem quite skilled at stirring up people to despise other people.
Once people in need have been turned into objects of derision–people who are surely bad or stupid because they have problems–it’s easy to get cuts because nobody is identifying with the people who will suffer if the cuts go through. Once the cuts have been made, anyone making comments here could suffer some horrible setback, and the services they will then need will no longer exist.
This process keeps us focusing on people who supposedly don’t merit medical care for diabetes or some other illness or disease. It removes the pressure to get rid of special tax breaks for the wealthy.
Def: spiteful – showing malicious ill will and a desire to hurt
I have seen a couple folks make “spiteful” comments towards Gov. Lepage according to that definition.
Would you copy and paste a few comments you believe are “spiteful”.
I have to be careful. The English I was taught when I was young seems to mean something else these days.
When you bully those who cannot or will not defend themselves due to the stigma of poverty, you invite malice. The governor has the bully pulpit and chooses to use it to bully people instead of making his case in less divisive ways. That has been his choice of tactics from the beginning.
I agree to some extent with what you say about a human tendency to be spiteful, and that tendency is shown by politicians of all stripes, including Democrats when, for instance, they propose higher tax rates for the wealthy. But I’m still not convinced that the proposed budget cuts are motivated by spite and a desire to stir up people to despise others. I think the spending cuts have more to do with a need to save money than to hurt people. Anyway, what are the special tax breaks the wealthy have that others don’t?
Most people are willing to help others on a temporary basis. When it goes on for years & generations & becomes a way of life, enough is enough.
I don’t see any evidence that the proposed MaineCare cuts are aimed specifically at people who have been poor or disabled or elderly “too long.”
There is also nothing in the current measure that states, “If your father was poor, disabled, or elderly YOU cannot have MaineCare,” though I’m sure some Commenters here would like to see that.
Many people in Maine are desperately poor. Their families have been poor for generations. That does not necessarily reflect a character flaw, nor should it disqualify them from getting preventive health care.
they are already cutting . i had extremely high blood sugar for a week and a faulty bloodsugar meter. i used up 100 test strips in a week. i went to miller drug for a refill. for 5 hours i struglled for a refill mainecare denied the refill. my pcp sent in a prescription request they cut my testing to two times a day. my diabetes is unstable. i had to wait for a prior authorization for liquid metaformin that took a week . i went to the diabetic nutrition center for a new meter. i finally got a override after calling maincare myself. people are being cut way back on their care. i finally got the metaformin. i wasnt going to start it until i got the test strips to monitor my bloodsugar levels. there was no compassion from the miller employees on my predicament in fact one laughed at me .i was actually crying and she was laughing at me . i eventually did get the overide i considered switching to shaws and walmart but they dont deliver .
even people with health insurance have to play these games with the insurance companies. The Miller employees aren’t there is be compassionate but they shouldn’t have laughed at you.
Big Pauley and his Cronies want to kick all of the people like this poor feller to the curb, also a lot of handicapped people, old folks and children too. I hope they are willing to spend a lot more for law enforcement because, people will be stealing from you and I once they lose the little bit of help they get.
Big Pauley and his Cronies want to kick all of the people like this poor feller to the curb
Why Not?
He did the same to little children on Halloween!
“the little bit of help they get,” most people get a lot & believe it is owed to them.
wrong post
Tea Partiers Just want thier Tax Money back!!!!
They just DONT Share!
rusjan 23 minutes ago in reply to LazyMainer
We need the Tea Party? Right, ok, that’s all we need a bunch of ultra conservatives politicians that are proud to create chaos and distrust, and then lie about it, and be proud of that as well!
You’re confusing the tea partiers with the occupiers.
how about there but for the grace of god go i
How about but there for the grace of god go i. May not be the perfect quotation…but please forgive me!
but there for the grace of god go i
This comment process is difficult. We are required to care for one another. We are not perfect.We all have some dysfunction. We all deserve to be included in this life and love.
There is no way to judge who gets care and who doesn’t based on behavior. Accepting that fact, it comes down to basic, inescapable, economic principles taught in any introductory economics class.
At present, entitlement programs that provide care to those in need (for whatever reason) are fiscally unsustainable as currently situated. Part of the reason is that we conduct distribution of health care based on economic commodity principles. One can make a cogent argument that this mode of distribution enriches a minority, cares for many (but not all) and ultimately costs all of us more becasue tax revenue has to be dedicated to cover those who cannot pay to play. The only solution is universal care with a single payer system, national training and merit pay. The insurance and medical lobbys, operating on the principle that money buys you the best government you can get, aren’t going to allow that.
The Lepage Administration has been confronted with a stark reality regarding economic unsustainability. Entitlements come from taxes. Taxes come from jobs. Jobs come from Employers. Employers create jobs where the regulatory and tax structure is conducive job creation. The Lepage Administration makes a cogent, factual case that the entitlement landscape in Maine outweighs the tax base necessary to sustain it. Learned economists agree that you can only tax so much before you erode your tax base due to an uncompetetive business environment. Maine arrived at that point during the second year of the Baldacci Administration, lead there by a legislative majority. Entitlements confer power on those who arbiter their dispensation, a province highly politicized.
All Mainers want to make sure Mainers truly in need get the help they need, for as long as they need it. Arguing to sustain the unsustainable only turns a blind eye to the eventual widespread hardship that will be casued to all–healthy and unhealthy alike–by unsustainable entitlements that lead, as history has shown time and time again, to widespread economic ruin inimcal to all.
Great post showing real understanding of the problem.
Too bad it will go right over the head of most progressives and liberals. They will insist we continue to expand the system until it does collapse. and then they will blame conservatives and the “rich” for that collapse.
We have made choices along the way that have allowed these underlying problems to fester. the biggest mistake we have made is to allow wages to stagnate for workers. We offer some of the lowest pay in the industrialized world. Higher wages mean more tax revenue, better opportunities, more consumer spending and reduced reliance on entitlements. If the minimum wage were raised to $10, you would be amazed at the economic power that would be unleashed.
The few percent we pay in higher taxes than several other states is not nearly as damaging to our economic outcomes as low wages are. You demonize the Baldacci administration for their tax policy. I contend that when LePage seeks to make Maine a Right to Work state, wages will fall precipitously, especially in the labor intensive trades of building and construction. That will hurt tax revenue, create legions of additional working poor and place even more pressure on the systems intended to protect the most vulnerable.
You, like many conservatives, are focused on the wrong side of the equation. What we need are jobs that can support families. Anything less than that is perpetuating the same failed system to our own detriment.
It seems like such a great idea. Increase buying power and prosperity by
raising real wages. Learned economists agree that simply raising the minimum
wage might not have the desired effect–Why? Simple, inescapable economics.
For every economic input there is an output. Let’s suppose Obama goes
on national tv tonight and, via an Executive Order, raises the minimum wage by
$10 dollars. Well, the money for the wage increase has to come from somewhere
and wages are a critical part of economic production. Accordingly, overnight
the cost of goods sold increases all the way up and down the production chain
(regardless of whether the the industy is manufacturing or service).
The
increased costs wind up reflected in the price of finished goods–and we’ll
leave out, for the time being, the fact that the goods/services themselves might
be rendered uncompetitive if they are otherwise cheaply available elsewhere in
the now-global economy. The consumer price index starts to move up. At the end
of the day the rising CPI will rise to the point of wage parity.
In short, you end up very, very close to exactly where you started. You
simply moved the benchmark. In short, you cannot move an economy forward
artificially (See Chavez and Mugabee’s efforts on trying that old saw in their
respective countries), much as you cannot infinitely spend money that doesn’t
exist (see the 16 Trillion dollar US debt).
“Wage stagnation”, to the degree it occurs, is a product of productivity and
competitiveness (or lack thereof, respectively). It is not caused by
inequality, real or perceived, and reflects more of a consumption inequality as
opposed to income inequality. In reality real income gains have been shared
fairly equally as the gap between the middle class iincome growth and productivy
growth is very, very narrow–about .20 percent per year. This is also easily
demonstrated when taxation and inflation is calculated in income equality
statistics and–no surprise here– demonstrate a pronounced leveling effect.
Finally, there is the psychological side of an economy. As my daughter says
about her teens, thirty years ago we didn’t have cell phones, our own car, DVDs,
iPods, iPads, air conditioners in our rooms, flat screen color tvs, a
dishwasher, an efficient/reliable car….yet they do. She doesn’t yell at her
kids to get off the long-distance call like I used to do when she was a teen
because long-distance calls cost an arm and a leg. We are far better off than
we were 30 – 40 years ago across the board. Heck, I’ve noticed several times at
Hannaford that the young woman or man in front of me using an EBT card usually
has the latest mobile phone. I’ve been left behind! My point is this — while
the past three years of recession have been a challenge, the past four decades
have been pretty good for Americans.
Again, it’s mostly Econ 101 and World History 101. While I am, admittedly, a
screaming liberal when it comes to making sure we take care of those in need I
do so from the position that at the end of the day you still need to be able to
pay for it. So, I guess that makes me a fiscal conservative. And I am likely
to remain one until someone on the Left factually convinces me that a vast
majority of sound, tried and true eocnomic principles are absloute doo-doo.
You might want to take a look at how Brazil has increased wages and social safety nets and developed a burgeoning economy. Wages have been kept stagnant for too long. We are talking four decades. This only helps the few at the top. The rest of our society is suffering for these few. The economics are something I understand well. I have graduate level training in finance and economics, so you are not telling me anything I don’t already know.
The only countries that are still seeing growth are one in which wages are growing for the working class. We are becoming a low wage nation and we will look like one in many other ways unless this changes. It needs to change soon and it needs to change drastically.
Yuor future vision for America may look like a Dickens novel but the American people will not sit idle much longer. Civil unrest is the obvious outcome from the transfer of wealth that is now taking place.
You know, I sure don’t recall all these “bennies” 40 years ago, and folks weren’t dropping dead in the street. They made do, and didn’t expect others to pick up their slack.
If the uninsured need medical care, go to a clinic like B Street in Lewiston. They get federal $$’s and are all over the state.
I would like to invite anyone here to go observe their local shelter, specifically their outdoor smoking areas. Are those Marlboros and tattoos freebies too?
Are you aware that the shelters that are not privately run get a set amout (used to be $49 per head per night) for each person in their shelter? You really think they want to end homelessness? Ha!
It’s sickening how low income people have been used to line the pockets of non profits and mental health agencies. Why do you think these agencies will only take Mainecare? Cuz they pay without question, and anyone, and I mean ANYONE can waltz in and get a diagnosis. Yayyyy…onward and upward to SSI, another welfare driven program under the guise of social security.
It’s a vicious cycle…and it should be criminal.
no, people did drop dead, we just didn’t hear about it. and they still are. in LA they did a MASS grave of homeless that died and had no families. that is sickening.
yes, they do want to end homelessness, because its cheaper to house someone than it is to remain in shelters.
Ending homelessness is a goal that will never be achieved, like ending drug addiction or alcoholism. Even if government allocates a gazillion dollars, because there will always be people who *want* to be homeless or *want* to be addicts. And it’s pie-in-the-sky thinking to hope that it will happen(Barry McCaffrey’s war on drugs was lost a long time ago – more Washington thinking that sounded great but was worthless). What some bleeding hearts don’t and never will understand is that some people *prefer* homelessness, and no amount of hope or behavior on their part is going to change that. With the national economy and public resources situation, we need to concentrate resources on those who can demonstrate a desire and willingness to help themselves as well as relying on public assistance to help them over a tough spot.
There are a few who “prefer homelessness” as you suggest. The big majority are not homeless by choice. This is simply your way of absolving yourself of any moral responsibility for leaving them to die. So now caring for your neighbors and communities makes one a bleeding heart. That used to be called common decency, neighbor.
Only since the Reagan revolution have we had a substantial homelessness problem in the US. You are somewhat right that we have issues we did not have in the past. I contend that those issues are in no small part due to the regressive policies that have strangled the poor and middle class since that time.
You are dead wrong about it being easy to get a diagnosis and collect SSI. You are just plain crazy if you think the standard of living these programs provide is lavish in any way. I know a few people who subsist on only SSI and food stamps. They have to plan 6 months in advance if they need to make a $100 purchase. They have no cable,no air conditioning, never new clothes, cannot afford a car and insurance, etc.
For a country to spend trillions on extravagant wars and banking bailouts and then not have the decency to care for the disabled and elderly in a better manner is immoral, and that should be criminal.
Other countries (largely European)take care of their poor . would people prefer we be like India or China?
People who complain about drinking being their own problem, addiction is like any other medical condition that involved a multitude of factors.
so we cut everyones Mainecare and welfare etc. when we start having people dying on the streets, dying because hospitals wont treat them, and burying people in large numberes will people increase sympathy? or become numb to it like 3rd world countries.
holy scrooges!!!
Its cheaper to help people, cheaper to house them and keep them housed. people whine and moan about money for welfare and Mainecare but forget the thousands and thousands of tax breaks for the rich-
What tax breaks are given to the rich and denied to the rest of us?
Since the presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the tax rate on the ultra-wealthy has gone down by about 2/3.
Has your own tax rate dropped to about 1/3 of its former level?
No.
Granted that the top tax rate of 90% in the Eisenhower era has been reduced, but I would hardly call a reduction from such a confiscatory level a “break”. If you think that’s a tax break, you should agree that the 46% of households who pay no federal income taxes at all receive the largest tax break of all.
It seems to bother you a lot that people living in dire poverty pay only sales tax, excise tax, perhaps property tax, but no income tax.
It does not seem to bother you at all that millionaires and billionaires keep getting tax breaks.
Are you, yourself, more likely to 1) lose your job or 2) become a millionaire?
No, those things don’t bother me.
Wealthy people make their money through investing, middle class and poor people through wages. Have you noticed that the tax rate on capital gains is lower than the tax on wages? That is just a start. Can you get by on what you make on tax exempt bond income? I can’t. I can’t afford them. The wealthy can, and will pay no taxes on that income. If you make wages, you cannot offset taxes. If you invest, your bad decisions can reduce prior or future years taxes with carry forwards.
There are thousands of ways that the rich get breaks the rest of us cannot take advantage of because we are not rich. When rich people write off expenses that the poor cannot, the poor are actually subsidizing the wealthy. This happens all over the place. The poor rent and pay no property tax directly. The rich get to deduct mortgage interest from their taxes reducing their living expenses. The bigger the mortgage the bigger the break. The poor are subsidizing wealthy homeowners with the mortgage deduction. Oh the many ways we coddle the rich and punish the poor. You just have to pay attention and look for it. The tax code is as big as it is due to this very situation.
It’s not just the wealthy that make money by investing. It’s the middle class, too, and every tax deduction, credit, etc. that you say is a “break” is available to the middle class. I think what you’re really complaining about is not a tax problem; it’s a wealth and income distribution problem. The fact of the matter is that some people have and make more money than others, and that fact will always make a lot of people unhappy. In fact, because of our progressive tax structure, the wealthy not only pay more taxes, they pay at higher marginal rates, and many of the wealthy and middle class are, in fact, denied deductions that those with lower income have as a result of the alternative minimum tax and deduction phase outs. It’s the lower income households that get the real tax breaks, like the earned income tax credit, and 46% of households pay no federal income taxes at all. Those households aren’t the wealthy or middle class.
There are some things, however, on which we might agree. I would have no objection to simply doing away with many deductions for all taxpayers, like the deduction for mortgage interest, and I wouldn’t mind a tax schedule that would create more brackets, say slightly higher percentages at $500,000, $1M, $5M, and going up.
I know for a fact alcoholism is a disease. I know at least two people with the illness and I am pretty sure they didnt wake up one day and say oh I think I will become an alcholic today. They did not choose to become alcoholics. Mental illnesses are just the same as physical– somthing missing that allows your body to function properly. How would you like it if you had a broken leg and someone told you to get off your butt and go to work. I am not talking about people that do take advantage of the system, but their are people out their that do need help and unfortunly are usually the first ones tht draw the short end of the stick.
Nor did they become an alcoholic by virtue of having one drink. By the way, lots of people go to work with broken legs. With paralyzed limbs, with blindness, and with deafness. Without all their extremities. But those with “mood disorders” and who can’t stop drinking alcohol can’t??
Also have you guys thought about how are people supposed to turn their life around when they are homeless with no healthcare. They cant afford therapy or medication for any of their health problems. You expect them to just up and get a job when they havent even dealth with their health.
I think Rustad’s wife is responsible for his homelessness.
Sorry, but we are out of money. The Feds are broke, Maine is broke, and even most taxpayers are having no easy time of it. For those that pay no taxes and live off of “entitlements”, this is hard to understand, but that’s what happens when you live in a bubble.
We never seem to be too broke to hand out a hundred billion per year in corporate welfare. We were not too broke to backstop the big banks to the tune of $7 trillion when the banks were hurting. We are in a weak economy and the real needs of the people are now considered secondary to making sure that banks don’t lose money, no matter what.
There is not a sole in our society that does not pay taxes. Everybody pays sales tax. Everybody who rents indirectly pays property taxes. Everyone who works even a little, pays payroll taxes. You are creating an excuse to behave immorally. The US is one of the worst countries in the developed world for how much assistance we provide the poor.
It seems you may be living in a bubble if you think we are spending nearly as much on keeping our citizens safe and warm and fed as we are on keeping banks afloat and oil companies in record breaking profits. Our priorities as a nation are inhumane and dangerous.
If we do not take care of our poor and decimate the middle class with wage stagnation and carrying the tax burden for the wealthy, we will have civil unrest. This is a natural and completely predictable result of the types of policies you are advocating.
When you pay that sales tax and rent (property tax) with my (taxpayers) money (handouts) than you are not paying taxes! Unless you worked for that money, and earned it, then you would be paying taxes with your money.
Once you pay your taxes, neighbor, it isn’t your money anymore. Even if you have no standards for how your neighbors are treated, the law does. Thems the brakes.
Many of you have no idea what you are talking about. Your names imply arrogance, which many times is a decoy for insecurity. “I” have been in as similar situation, no alcohol problem or mental health, but I couldn’t buy a job! I lost my job because the management of the place I was working was misappropriating funds. When I tried to find a job .. I was over qualified, temp agencies were a joke, I was at the career center every week, several times a week, I sent out resumes every single week. I cold called restaurants, I can wash dishes, I have 20 years waitress experience. I am not proud, I’d milk cows, clean bathrooms, rake leaves, put up with arrogant bosses to take care of myself. The economy is not what you think it is. The jobs aren’t available, there are no benefits and even with a full time job, one can not make a rental payment, keep a car going, have clothes to work , put food in their stomach on $10 an hour. That’s being a straight and clean person with an impresseive work history. Now let someone come into their business with alcohol and obvious mental health problems, and no transportation to get to work , do you think they are going to get hired? NO! So it’s a vicious cycle and the homelessness prevails, the hopelessness is overwhelming, and like many of us would do, we’d take a pill, or do something to divert the agony of defeat. Not saying it’s right, I’m saying I understand. If they did get hired, they then would need subsidized housing. Wait for 2 years to get in … what do they do in those 2 years? And how do they keep their vehicle running to get to work? How do they pay the babysitter? I ended up relocating, lived in a basement of a friend, never giving up. I got very ill several times, I still am paying back ambulance and doctor fees even though I got charity at the hospital. I am now gainfully employed. I have always worked more than one job. I love to work, I’m proud to work. When my life is done and people remember me, I want to be remembered as a hard and dilegent worker. I also am grateful for my misfortune because I now truly understand, I never forgot and I do what I can to help others. But when people stereotyped me. I felt defeated, it only added to the pain and overwhelming misfortune.This is not just about compassion folks, it’s about really understanding how everything is linked. Simply stating get a job … that’s the easy part … trying to survive like a deserving human being is what the issue is here. I’ve said it before .. the way to resolve this welfare abuse, is not blanketing any category and making massive cuts on people that could be grossly and unfairly be affected… it’s investing the money into investigating people that each and every one of us know are abusing the system, and hurting the people the system was created for. That’s where the cuts need to be. I think everyone of us would agree with that. I don’t like working and paying for someone else to have food stamps, free housing, heat allowance, and they have someone living with them selling drugs, making more money illegally and are the perpetuators of those who stay on the system because they spend all their money on drugs … helloooo and these people live above our own means … these are the people of the state that are killing our system. Hire people to investigate, LePage .. you’re going about this the wrong way.
round up all the homeless and create a community for them sort of like prison. They can chop wood all day, grow veg and raise their own food for the yr sell the rest to pay for their insurance.. Like the old days…We need sheriff Joe up here.. If they don’t like it, then get back into society and be useful.
It seems to me the issue is not so much the actual program as much as the screening process and screeners who allow some to get into the system.
We have all seen abuse of the system by those who appear to be perfectly able to provide for themselves. Maybe we do not know all the issues and should not be so judgemental or maybe in some instances we our correct in our assessment.
Let us ask ourselves what are the current criteria required to receive government assistance?
Income? Physical health issues? Mental health issues? Dependents? If you meet the necessary criteria, you qualify. And once in the system, it appears you are there for life.
What we need is better follow up and progress reporting (like filing income tax) from the recipients. Some might say…” I don’t have time for all this paperwork……HEY! Your on welfare I think you have more time than I do!.
And it seems the State of Maine has no problem tracking me down if I make a simple mistake on my income taxes, even if it is 4 years later.
50 years ago the state operated farms across the state where the needy could go to live and actually provide a needed service to the public in the form of vegetable and livestock produce.
Unfortunately, in those days they were called ‘poor farms’ and made the less fortunate feel bad about thier situation. They probably couldn’t wait to get off that farm.
Hmmm…. is that such a bad concept?
Also if health care wasnt a right many people would be worse off then they are right now. People shouldn’t have to know they will suffer because they can’t afford a simple thing like medication or god forbid die when a simple thing could have been taken care of forever ago.
Guess its time to take down the “Maine – the way life should be” signs at the borders – we are turning into a cold and heartless place – shameful : (
If the clinic was “theirs” how can they take it away?