Without MaineCare, childless adults say they won’t survive

Posted Dec. 16, 2011, at 11:54 a.m.
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Enrollment in MaineCare's Childless Adult Coverage Group, by county:The LePage administration proposes to save about $22 in fiscal year 2013 million by eliminating "noncategoricals," or childless adults, from the rolls of MaineCare coverage. The darker the red, the greater the enrollment in the state program. (click here for a larger map) SOURCE: Automated Client Eligibility System (ACES), May 1, 2011

ORLAND, Maine — Janet Bouchard has heard about the deep cuts Gov. Paul LePage has proposed to the state’s MaineCare program. The Orland woman may not know the ins and outs of the administration’s plan to overhaul the program and bring it into a new era of fiscal sustainability, but she does know that her life is on the line.

“If I lose my MaineCare, that’s it,” she said. “I’m on oxygen, I’ll have no way to get my oxygen, no way to get my medications, no way to go to the doctor.”

Bouchard is one of about 19,000 childless adults who are slated to lose MaineCare coverage under the proposal. Known as “noncategoricals,” they represent about a third of the 65,000 Mainers facing a full loss of benefits. Meanwhile, another 14,000 to 16,000 childless adults remain on a waiting list for MaineCare, according to Stefanie Nadeau, director of MaineCare services.

The administration’s plan, designed to close a $220 million shortfall over the next two years in the Department of Health and Human Services budget, calls for tightening eligibility requirements, eliminating services and repealing coverage entirely for thousands of MaineCare recipients to bring Maine’s program closer to national averages. MaineCare is the state’s version of the federal Medicaid program.

The state expects to save about $22 million in fiscal year 2013 by eliminating noncategoricals from the rolls. The cuts would take effect on July 1, 2012, after a mandated notification period, Nadeau said.

Maine began offering benefits to childless adults in 2004 and is one of just seven states that do so today, she said.

The noncategorical group consists of beneficiaries ages 21 to 64 with no dependents in the home and no disabilities. The number of people enrolled in this group has nearly doubled from about 10,000 at the beginning of 2010 but remains lower than a peak of 24,000 in 2005.

LePage has said eliminating coverage for some groups as part of his overall plan to make MaineCare more affordable in the face of rising enrollment and dropping federal reimbursements will prevent across-the-board budget cuts.

Childless adults would be stripped of benefits under the plan because they’re not among Maine’s most vulnerable, said Adrienne Bennett, a spokeswoman for the governor.

“We’re talking about able-bodied, healthy people here,” she said.

Bouchard, 55, went on MaineCare in 2008 after injuring her back and shoulder during a shift at a Bucksport convenience store and gas station. In addition to chronic pain from that fall, she also suffers from panic disorder, acid reflux, migraines and mild sleep apnea, which makes breathing difficult, she said. MaineCare pays for her doctor’s visits and five prescriptions. She refuses to take pain medications for fear of getting hooked.

Bouchard’s health problems prevent her from working and she has no income other than her boyfriend’s disability checks, she said. She applied for disability status but was denied and is pursuing an appeal through the courts, she said.

“If MaineCare cuts off, we won’t even be able to pay the bills,” she said.

The average net income of a childless adult enrolled in MaineCare is $568 per month, according to May demographic data compiled by DHHS. Many beneficiaries cannot afford to buy health insurance on the private market. Other groups are denied private health coverage because of pre-existing health conditions.

The least expensive monthly premium for a standard individual health plan in Maine was about $766 as of July 1, according to the state Bureau of Insurance website. That rate varies based on age, and some high-deductible plans are less expensive.

“We as a state have to do better at making the commercial insurance market more affordable,” Nadeau said.

The demographic data also show that just under a quarter of MaineCare-enrolled childless adults work, while 7 percent report income from unemployment, pension or retirement funds and disability payments. To be eligible, recipients must earn no more than the federal poverty level, or $10,890 annually for an individual.

“I can’t afford to buy insurance,” said Betina Pelletier, who runs a day care out of her home in Oakland. Both she and her elderly mother, whom Pelletier cares for full time, are on MaineCare. Her mother had a stroke several years ago and has no short-term memory, so she forgets if she has eaten or taken her medications, Pelletier said.

“Because I have to be in the home to take care of her, it limits my ability to earn an income,” she said.

Pelletier, 46, suffered a heart attack at age 30 and uses MaineCare to pay for 11 prescriptions that would cost her several hundred dollars a month at full price. She also has diabetes, depression and high cholesterol.

The state would be better served by keeping her on the MaineCare rolls, Pelletier said.

“It’s a lot cheaper for them to help take care of me than for them to pay to put my mother in a nursing home,” she said.

Rupert Wilmoth, 46, of South Portland said he doesn’t know how he’ll pay for prescriptions or doctor’s visits without MaineCare. He went back on the program in January after waiting two years to rejoin.

“I need it,” he said. “It’s a really tough situation out here. And I know the state is cutting a lot of things, but MaineCare is not one of the things they need to cut.”

Wilmoth works a night shift at a company that manufactures agricultural products, but said he can’t afford private health insurance.

“I don’t know what people like me are going to do,” he said.

Public hearings on the proposed cuts will wrapped up Friday before the Legislature’s Appropriations and Health and Human Services committees. Hundreds of people testified at the hearings over the course of three days, the majority in opposition to the plan, though some speakers favored it.

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  • Anonymous

    ““We’re talking about able-bodied, healthy people here,” she said.”

    Adrienne Bennett and the governor’s office couldn’t be more tone deaf. 

  • Anonymous

    Before cutting people that NEED Mainecare & are illegible for it right now, you need to check into the people that have been using it for many years by lying & getting paid under the table etc. I know one family that had a 2nd child , both were working, he works for his parents business, she immediately quit her job, his family paid him under the table, they received Mainecare for the entire family for years for and after the birth.  They have brand new home, drive hummer & several other vehicles. No one ever checked these situations, should be we could report this somewhere, check into it, make them pay the money back for all those years.  I know of 3 families doing this, some still on Mainecare & both working.  

  • hasacluemaine

    Sounds like Bouchard is eligible for SSI if she is really disabled, but reviewing her conditions here I doubt that they prevent her from working.

  • Anonymous

    EXACTLY!

  • Anonymous

    It often takes years after an incident for someone to be deemed disabled. In the meantime, they must rely on their savings. Once that is gone MaineCare and other forms of public assistance are all that they have.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously you or anyone you know dont have to deal with a panic disorder. It is more disabling than most physical ailments could ever be. Be thankful of how unaware you are.

  • Anonymous

    You should report these people for fraud instead of just complaining about them. Honestly, if all the people on the boards who know of people fraudulently abusing the system actually reported these people instead of just complaining about them here, maybe our state would save a lot of money. Or maybe all these people abusing the system are actually made up and so there is nothing to report . . .

  • hasacluemaine

    The panic disorder must have been a very late onset as she was dealing with the public in a retail enviorment, back in 2008. Funny thing about mental disorders, there are not many ways to physically document their existance. Acid reflux? Give me a break…half the population has some sort of excess stomach acid…jiminy crow. COPD? Most people still work with COPD. Sleep apnea? Most people don’t work when they are sleeping. Chronic pain? Join the club.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSBAAXFEXTIBDSRA5X3FA6TSG4 jersey

    Yes this is BS and , if she is caring for her mother I am sure she is getting paid by the state to do so. Save the sobs  she isnt losing anything.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    If they have savings – they should pay their bills.  I have to.  I can’t choose to put my earnings in a savings account rather than purchase insurance for my family.  I also question your “years” statement.  And often?  How often?  Not from what I see.  Months maybe, not years.  They have been given notice, their doctors know their situation, if they are truly disabled, they’ll get what is owed to them.  The grown men with diagnoses of “ADHD” that allow them to earn benefits and not work (although they can do any other activity of their choosing) - hopefully not.      

  • Anonymous

    No disagreement with any of the other points except the panic disorder. Not sure when you got your medical degree, but its wonderful you can diagnose from your computer desk. Your statement makes my point that you have never suffered from it, and obviously don’t know much about it.

  • waynorth1

    Holy crap, call it in.  That’s freakin ridiculous!  Wish I knew someone abusing it like that.  I’d grab the phone in a hurry! 

  • Anonymous

    it can take 4, 5, sometimes up to up to 6 year to get SSI. In most cases it takes about 2.5 years, only in cases of accidental disability, with no hope of recovery does it take only months.
    unlike many of you believe getting disability is not easy. For maine care you can have less then 600.00 to live on, with no deduction for, anything.

  • waynorth1

    I agree.  Hubby has sleep apnea, has a CPAP machine and works 50 hours a week, heart condition, cholesterol, blood pressure.  Everyone has a level of anxiety unless they’re on medical marijuana. That justifies a panic disorder?  None of those conditions that she listed render a person unable to work….doesn’t want to.  Daughter has migraines, works part-time and is a full-time college student.  Hate excuses…….

  • Anonymous

    What do you know, about it. I’ll bet nothing.

  • Anonymous

    There are many who are held hostage by our healthcare system that is run by insurance and pharmaceutical companies. They are being pumped full of medications which do not make them feel more healthy but instead make them feel worse and they become more unhealthy and more disabled.

    So many people could eliminate these toxic drugs with changes in lifestyle. If one eats a healthy, wellness-promoting diet, and if they exercise daily, they can bring their bodies back from the brink. It is not easy but it is possible to go from multiple medications to no medications simply by changing what one eats, ingests and does to their bodies. Our bodies have an incredible way of healing themselves but the drugs and foods that people are putting into their bodies keep them unhealthy and unwell.  

    Our healthcare system is crumbling because of the food and pharmaceutical industries that are poisoning our citizens and then instructing them to take pills to feel better rather than convince them to take drastic measures to completely change their lives in order to care for their bodies in a way that promotes good health. So many Americans think that the answer to feeling unwell is to take handfuls of pills each day, but the answer to many illnesses is a complete, immediate and drastic change in habit. 

    If Americans weren’t so addicted to all of these legal drugs and toxic foods, and if doctors were doing their job of promoting health and wellness instead of dealing drugs, we would not have such a crisis with healthcare. We would have money to take care of those people who truly need medical intervention, instead of having so much money tied up in paying for health disturbances caused from outright abuse and neglect of their bodies.

  • Anonymous

    From this article it sounds like the dire circumstances awaiting the 19,000 is they will have to venture out into the world, get a job, and contribute to society. Maybe even try paying some income tax.

  • Anonymous

    Would you hire some one like that  ??

  • Anonymous

    If she is disabled, at age 55, and has an employment history, why isn’t she receiving SSDI and Medicare?

    She needs to call her local SHIP office and request someone help her with the Social Security application process.

    Most people are turned down the first time, but approved on the second. All the lawyers out there who claim they can pull a wire for you, don’t really do anything a thorough doctor’s report will already substantiate.  It’s a process and it takes a while to complete the paperwork.

  • Anonymous

    Who got us into this mess anyway?  WHY are we being forced to look at cutting benefits?  LePage is forced to do what has to be done because of the mess our prior administrations have gotten us into. 

  • Anonymous

    It shouldn’t be easy to get!  It should be for those truly unable to work!  Too many receive benefits (disability included) that would easily be able to work and live a meaningful life – if they didn’t rely on others to support them. 

  • hasacluemaine

    Yep, and often do hire people with limitations. In fact, I prefer to as they have more gumption than those with everything going for them.

  • Anonymous

    As I said, they must live off of their savings first. Only after that is gone are they able to get help from the state. Often medical bills cause savings to be spent quickly.

    Social Security does not give benefits just because a doctor says so.

  • waynorth1

    Totally agree.  Two biggest complaints for obtaining disability………..back pain and migraines……can’t disprove it…..docs can’t prove it or disprove it most of the time………they’ll agree with you……off you go with your prescriptions and head down to the local disability office right afterwards.  Sad state of affairs. 

  • Anonymous

    The free ride is over. It’s time to pay up or get off the State wagon.

  • waynorth1

    Sure I would. Everyone deserves a chance. Working actually (well, I used to think) makes a person’s self-esteem escalate and make them feel proud. Would I hire a person like that to be a police dispatcher? No…..too many drugs in the body and slowed response time. I have always believed that welfare breeds upon itself. Offspring of welfare recipients learn how to do it, are fostered in how to do it, coached in how to do it and do it themselves and the pathetic process continues.

    Subject: [bdn] Re: Childless adults tell of dire circumstances loss of MaineCare would cause

  • Anonymous

    The state does not pay people for taking care of their mothers. What color is the sky on the planet you live on jersey. Your comment is ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, they like to sensationalize everything. One thing we cannot forget however is our responsibility to try to do what we can if we know of someone in need of help. We don’t need the government to help our neighbors for us, rather we should be watching out for our neighbors the way that we would hope to be looked after ourselves. I just don’t like the idea of people complaining about a lack of support for people from the government when they may have the means to help people and they don’t.

  • Guest

    Every one of us has health  issues of some kind, you can push the issue to the front and let it define you or you can push the issue to the back and not be defined by it. It seems to me all of the above people are being defined by their issues. Adult day care would free up one women so she could work outside her home. Not a doctor but from the article above most of the health issues have been self inflicted. Poor dietary choices, smoking, lack of excercise…we should not have to pay for insurance for people who have made poor choices and are now realizing the effects of those choices.

  • Anonymous

    That’s nice.        You would not be saying this if this were your mom or grandmother.

  • Anonymous

    Good thing no one has to rely on the expert financial planning advice found here
    nor for medical diagnoses and treatment.

    Yikes!

    Get a life!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBTBBAU3DBWI32YKTDAGIDJLJA marcia

    Something’s wrong here. This is a worker’s comp injury preventing her from work? I also don’t see a thing in her other diagnoses to prevent her from working. So, I have to ask…is the real reason she’s not working due to awaiting something from worker’s comp?

    And the second lady “because I need to take care of my mother, it limits my ability to make an income”. But she has a daycare in her home.  More importantly, if her mother is on Mainecare, she qualifies for home health services, etc. In fact, Mainecare is far better insurance than private as far as getting in-home services. So daughter shouldn’t even be on Mainecare…she needs to pay for her own needs.

     BTW, why aren’t folks who need to, going to federal clinics that charge nothing, or a sliding scale if appropriate.  I would also hope physicians are prescribing $4 meds when appropriate. Bet not, though. Even better, assisting their patients with applying for FREE meds through the drug companies.

    On an even better note, it should be the responsibility of these patients (when capable) to research these options on their own. Take responsibilty…it feels better. 211 is your friend…

  • Anonymous

    Nice.  I can tell you take pleasure in that.  Not sure how you derive that out of what I’ve said, but that’s the “in” thing, isn’t it.   Sweeping generalizations and emotional hysterics.
     
    Anyway – there is no one who cannot get medical care if they need it.  No one.  If I was ill, had no insurance, and couldn’t afford care – but needed it…I would get it.  And wouldn’t care one bit about how I could pay it back. 
     
    You seem to have an issue with medical insurance in general.  That’s a whole other issue that needs tackling.  I hear our great Governor is on it – and attempting to have our borders opened so we can purchase a much more affordable plan through our neighboring states.  Maybe then many of us who work hard for a living can obtain insurance, too. 

  • Anonymous

    Maybe cutting money from Maine care isn’t the right thing to do, my understanding is that he wants to cut 123 million from the budget because the state doesn’t have the funding. So, where do we cut besides Maine care? The state can’t print money like the Feds do when they have a shortfall. Where are all the folks saying we can’t cut Maine care going to cut spending? Something has to be cut, so what is it?

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh the endless tears of the forlorn and non payers to teh State vault. I dont pay taxes any more becasued of age and disablitiy but I really don’t feel sorry for a large portion of the ones crying the loudest.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely right. I’d say it regardless of who it was.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, after he increased my health care costs by around $60 a month for two people with the latest insurance industry giveaway last winter. So now I pay around $635.00 a month, more than my mortgage with 70/30 split, $5,000 deductible, and $30 co-pays. Yes, I’m sure his “opening up the borders” is going to make my costs just disappear.  
    I wonder if this comment will be flagged too?? 
    Oh, and you not “worrying” how you would pay back your “free” healthcare is why I pay such high premiums, so thanks for promising to continue that trend.

  • asportsfan

    Is she on oxygen because she is a smoker (or was)? 

    I wasn’t aware that mild sleep apnea causes someone to be on an oxygen tank all the time or I’d be on oxygen while I was at work…

    The only issue I have is that I work very hard at 2 different jobs in order to pay the bills and my money is taken out of my checks for taxes, part of which is given to people who can but don’t work and expect the government to take care of their needs.   I fully support the allowance of funds to those who desperately need it like the elderly, the TRUE disabled- not those who “hurt their back” and then milk the system, the mentally and physically handicapped people,  and children who have parents too lazy to work.  Let’s not hurt them just because their parents don’t care enough.

  • Anonymous

    We can’t pay for it and we can’t shrink it to an affordable size without causing the sky to fall. Quite the problem. I always thought “No money” meant “No money”.  Some people don’t seem capable of understanding that.

  • Anonymous

    They need the ADHD meds to “focus” on watching Dr. Phil!

  • Hussar

    Problem solved.  I found an  used Oxygen Concentrator on eBay for a starting bid of $29.99 and a brand new Oxygen Concentrator on Google for $585.  If  Ms Bouchard promises to leave MaineCare I will buy her the used Oxygen Concentrator on eBay for $29.99.  If she wants a new one–a better overall value–I suggests she starts a cookie sale in her community and I will buy the first $40.00 worth of cookies to get her going:  again if she promises to get off MaineCare.
     
    Once you start investigating these sob stories you can see how much crap we the taxpayer have to put up with because our welfare recipients  show little or no self initiative or responsibility.
     

  • Anonymous

    Ha!  See someone else liked your comment as well.  I don’t flag though.  I would rather everyone see your thought proccess.

    $635 a month?  For 2?  That’s actually pretty cheap comparatively.  I wish I could get a quote that low.    Apparently you don’t recall under Baldacci?  Our only option being Anthem or Dirigo (…) Our Athem premium increases every year, by 18 – 22%?  No?  When the same insurance was 1/4 the cost in NH.  I for one cannot wait to get a deal that good!

    And you misunderstood.  I have the ability to pay my bills.  I do so.  I work, my husband works, we limit our spending on things we don’t need, we care for ourselves so we don’t need to see the doctor every week.  We certainkly do not get free healthcare.  However, if there came a time that I could not affort to care for myself, or my child, had no savings to pay for care, had no way to work or no family to help me, and we had a desperate need to see a doctor and be treated, and I didn’t qualify for help from our government… I would NOT stand by and watch them die, or be in pain, or any of the other things you somehow accuse me of being ok with.  If my only option was to be treated and have a huge bill I couldn’t pay back – or lay over an die (as you somehow think is what will happen to these people) I would take the treatment and accept the debt.  $50 a month is better than nothing.

    But I guess you wouldn’t?  You’d just accept your fate and die? 

  • Guest

    We cut Maine care.  We cut assistance of any kind to healthy adults who could work but choose not to for whatever reason ( not the field I was trained in, not as much money as I should make, just want a free ride). No unemployed healthy adult should be getting better insurance coverage for less money than an employed healthy adult can get. If we are going to help anyone it should be the working poor, not the poor who choose not to work and get the acrylic nails and go tanning, smoke and drink, buy lobster with food stamps and such…just saying….

  • Anonymous

    “As I said, they must live off of their savings first. Only after that is gone are they able to get help from the state.”

    As it should be. 

  • Millicent

    are you a doctor?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBTBBAU3DBWI32YKTDAGIDJLJA marcia

    One more thing…

    This cutting of entitlements is more than meets the eye. It’s empowering.  Keeping people dependent on government is in itself disabling. It’s a never ending cycle of “receiving”, never “giving”.  Hence, this kind of dependence is not good for the psyche, the spirit or the community. It renders people helpless, hopeless and non productive. That lack of self worth and pride is disabling in itself.  Doesn’t anyone wonder why there are more disabling “conditions” than 20 years ago??  There’s a doc, therapist and a pill for every little thing these days…

    It wasn’t that long ago Maine people could go anywhere in the country and be hired. Mainers have long been known for a solid work ethic, a stalwart character and the drive to produce.  Now look at our reputation…something’s got to give. 

  • Millicent

    pretty much the exact same issues with my Mom when her lung disease showed up. Those things go hand and hand together. Worth taking the time to find out about it. Acid reflux is also diagnosed for the amount of phlem one coughs up due to the lung disease. COPD….do you know even what that is? 
    Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Which there are several forms of this disease. Many people can work with this disease, many can not. Sleep apnea…can cause heart attack, strokes, high blood pressure, heart failure, irregular heart beat. 

    This woman may also be on high levels of oxygen, in which case it’s extremely difficult to bring oxygen with you to work. One of the small tanks, on 6 units will last about an hour and a half. They don’t make portable concentrators with a constant flow to even go that high. Trust me, been there done that. 

  • Anonymous

    If you beleive this you are a sick B, just like LePage,  Why don’t you just make a list of who needs to die first.

  • Anonymous

    So now your a doctor?

  • Millicent

    the government will not pay family members to take care of ill members of their family. 

  • Millicent

    a concentrator doesn’t work for everyone. My mother does much better physically and mentally on the tanks. The oxygen is more pure. 

  • Anonymous

    The truth is that it is a LOT of work to investigate and do back-ground checks on fraudulent claims. It’s easier to just give them the money.  It appears that more relevant questions need to be asked. Age and income questions are not enough. People need to PROVE they qualify for Maine Care. Also, if a person is caught in a lie, they should lose ALL of their State provided help….forever.

  • waynorth1

    I can pretend. Better to be a pretend doctor than an aggravated blogger. I’ll live longer.

    Subject: [bdn] Re: Childless adults tell of dire circumstances loss of MaineCare would cause

  • Anonymous

    Meanwhile people in Canada look at the hateful rants people like you spew against their fellow Americans, and shake their heads–while enjoying a far healthier society:

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/44315.php

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree the people committing fraud should be punished and lose their benifits. However, I, nor should anyone put everyone in the same box. Yes, go after the frauds but do not punish the poor people who desperately need help.
    I expect you will say the truly desperate and disabled will still get help. You will find out this is just a lot more of lies from LiePage and his croonies. He and his pals don’t care about the general population of this state. They only care about his special interest friends. Don’t you dare say he doesn’t have special interest friends. Its too obvious he caters to his pals,

  • Anonymous

    I’d really like to see any evidence of people receiving benefits solely for an ADHD diagnosis.  

  • Anonymous

    It’s not easy to get SSI (federal) benefits.  A friend of mine with a severe degenerative disease can’t get it because she hadn’t “paid into” the system long enough by the time of her diagnosis when she was just 22. 

  • Anonymous

    Are you a doctor?

  • Anonymous

    You have me pegged completely wrong. I am  not favor in LePage’s huge cuts to social services at all. I am just tired of going on the boards and every time welfare or food stamps or any other social service are brought up, someone has to say they’ve seen this woman abusing it or their neighbor abusing it or their family member abusing it (making it seem as though everyone abuses it.) This is clearly not true. The people abusing the system make up such a tiny fraction of the whole. However, the way these posters talk, it’s rampant. If these people posting here truly saw someone fraudulently abusing it, they should report it. Nobody, not democrats or republicans, want to fund fraud.

    And, to your last point, the only people I’ve seen LePage cater to seem to be out of state interests – huge corporations, insurance industry, and the national republican party. I have yet to see him come up with any ideas to help the people or business owners in Maine.

  • Hussar

    I do much better physically and mentally eating Omaha Steaks, but tonight I am having meatloaf because that is all I can afford.   I remember a school yard saying from years ago:  “beggars cann’t be choosers.”

    As for your mother, if her Oxygen Concentrator is not providing the necessary flow, have the filters or the zeolite checked.  They may need replacement.  Also you should be able to adjust the flow.  These things are not calibrated to the most exacting standards so if your Mother needs a 2 liter flow rate try uping it to 2.5 with a doctor’s permission.  What I have seen is that sometimes the  2 liter output  of the concentrator is actually more like 1.75 or 1.5 liter.

  • Briney

    You leave a hollow sound.

  • Briney

    Hard to believe that 21 people support your views on  Le Page’s heartless cuts.

  • Briney

    It is hard to believe these are Americans supporting this man’s hateful ways.

  • Briney

    Let’s hope good fortune follows you for the rest of your life, so you don’t have to suffer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J5XVHRZG3GXBWY3WX3ZZAPK5DQ Harry

    If this were my mom or grandmother I would ask MY family to help me help her. My mom or grandmother would never take a handout under any circumstances. It was how they were brought up.  Unfortunately we have removed that stigma  in todays society and there is no shame in asking for as much you can get. 

  • Briney

    To help save the economy, Le Page is expected to announce next month that
    he will start deporting seniors (instead of illegals) in order to lower Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid costs. Older people are easier to catch and will not be able to find their way home, he said. Adriane Bennett said “What the governor really meant to say was…”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

    I sincerely hope you never suffer from panic disorder. I did/do. I have worked since I was 15 years old and never had a problem and then one day, I could not get out of the door. I simply collapsed into a quivering sobbing lump on the floor and stayed there for six hours. I could not go out of my house for a year unless I was extremely medicated. And even then I was in a constant state of panic. I could not go anywhere by myself because I would panic and “get lost” even in a familiar place. I would get into my car and realize I couldn’t remember how to drive. It has taken me almost 10 years to even begin to function near normal. I have worked in that time, but I have to have very understanding employers, ones that can allow me to work around my disorder. I struggle with this desease every day, its not easy.  

    Those of you here who are dismissing this as a fake disease should really do some research before you come here to disparage those of us who know what the battle is about. Mental illness is real and can be as disabling as any physical disability. You should be ashamed.

  • Briney

    You and the other 54 who applaud this man’s actions should be outraged.  Thank God we are kept up to date on this radical man’s actions and the effects he is having on the Maine population.  The BS pours endlessly out of this man’s mouth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J5XVHRZG3GXBWY3WX3ZZAPK5DQ Harry

    Can you name a cut you would agree with? To any program? No, its tax the rich or someone else but no cuts ever.

  • Briney

    The ER is the answer?   That’s how  George W solved medical problems for the country.  Just go to the Emergency Room, he said.  

  • Guest

    Janet needs to apply for disability, especially since she has been disabled since 2008.

  • Millicent

    my Mother is currently on 10 units and in a hospital in Boston. The concentrator had been checked out, it is fine, and I did the regular cleaning of the filter, making sure she had fresh canulas, tubing and masks. With her, it’s the fact that they don’t provide pure enough oxygen. Her cough calms down when she was on the tanks, as opposed to the concentrator . Her head didn’t feel so “foggy”. I checked the difference with the concentrator and the tanks. On the concentrator her oxygen levels were around 92, on the tanks 98. End stage idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis. She’s dying, 2 months, a little more if we’re lucky. She’s 67 years old. 

  • Guest

    They can prove that there is damage with mri’s and nerve conduction testing, range of motion, etc.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been in the Human Services field  for quite some time now and I have been saying for years that the state should develop some sort of tier system so that people can access Mainecare and help pay for it. Mainecare is a one size fits all benefit and doesn’t need to be.  For instance people receive other benefits (food stamps, subsidized rent) based upon their income so it’s adjustable. Why couldn’t the state develop a system where people pay a percentage of their income to help pay for their premium. The most poverty stricken would stay as they are, however as one’s income increases so does their responsability. Instead of free coverage you might pay 25, 50, or 100 dollars a month for you premium. Instead of everyone paying the same 3 dollar co-pay  (if the provider chooses to collect it which many don’t) to see their  medical  provider they  pay 5, 10, or 15 dollars. Medication co-pays  instead of being 2 or 3 dollars for everyone they would vary as well all depending on what category you fall in.  It seems to be this dosen’t need to be an all or nothing benefit. People who can pay more, pay more. Those who can’t don’t.  It’s like those who have private insurance, you pay more or less depending on whether you have point coverage,  HMO, or an HSA/high deductable policy. Those of us with private insurance often have to make choices about what policies, medications, and tests we can afford. I do agree that we should stop providing coverage to those who choose not to and are able to work .  The WORKING poor, those without children should not be punished from having healthcare. Isn’t that a hand up not a handout? In addition, my rule of thumb is if our goverment does not deem you disabled, qualifying one for Mainecare, you should be working.

  • Anonymous

    Adding a $1 per pack tax to cigarettes could raise more than $9

    billion a year for states, health advocates said on Wednesday, and a

    poll released with the study shows Americans would support such a tax.

    The poll, conducted by International Communications Research, found 60

    percent of voters would support the tax to help struggling states and

    would prefer it over other tax increases or budget cuts.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/02/10/us-tobacco-tax-idUSTRE6194SD20100210

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TWPACSVHFZJV5BWDLOSTKDNKFQ John Perry

    HOw much of her funds go to maintaining the dog?

  • Anonymous

    Interesting to note that Janet’s “boyfriend” is also on disability.  Article doesn’t say whether he’s also on Mainecare.    So the Maine taxpayers may be picking up the tab for both of them.

     Her story is rather incomplete about what other federal and state benefits they may be drawing–  do they possibly quailfy for low rent subsidized housing, Food Stamps, LIHEAP, general assistance from the Town, or just general charity from churches, food assistance programs, the Salvation Army, etc.?

    Now it would seem that since she claims to have suffered an “on the job” injury, she probably should have received (and perhaps still is receiving) workers’ compensation benefits and this would include some amount of medical coverage for her work related injuries.  No problem with that, it’s an earned benefit, but the reporter doesn’t have the tenacity to inquire.

     Plus, if she has sufficient covered quarters of employment she should be eligible for Social Security disability coverage as an insured benefit.  She’s 55 so you might think that she haw worked enough to qualify for such benefits.  It would be interesting to know a little about her prior work history and whether she has a prior history of workers compensation, unemployment compensation,  or disability claims.

    She presumably could quailfy for Social Security retirement benefits as early as 62.  Again, the reporter doesn’t tell us about this.

     If she doesn’t have the required Social Security work history to qualify for insured benefits, then she may become eligible for SSI (supplemental security income) disability based on financial need.  This would lead to obtaining medical insurance coverage, either through Medicare or Medicaid.

    But what I suspect is going on here is that the Social Security authorities are perhaps a little skeptical over how truly disabled she really is.  Her catalog of ailments are generally not considered to be categorically disabling and are rather easily “faked” by malingerers.  She should be able to obtain assistance to qualify.  There are advocates out there who pursue these claims “pro boo” and there are lawyers who handle these cases on a fee paid basis.

    I have a sneaky suspicion that we are not getting all of the facts in this case.

  • Anonymous

    She will if LePage implements these changes…she is a “noncategorical”, and that will be eliminated. As well as residential/group homes for people with autism, down syndrome, and other developmental disorders. 

    That’s just disgusting…and at the same time, it is absolutely hilarious that the people that support this overhaul always throw in, “but we still want to help people that are REALLY vulnerable…they deserve help. It’s those freeloaders we want to cut off, they’re taking from the people that really need it!”  

    And yet here they are, proposing to cut the help for the people that really need it. 

  • Anonymous

    That is not how it works….you cannot just go to the doctor claiming to have some condition and then poof, qualify for disability. The reason being is like you said, you cannot clinically disprove some things, such as migraines. However, the person must have  a pretty extensive medical history. 

    And it does take most people years to get onto disability…if it was just so easy, then where is your explanation for that??

  • Anonymous

    Just because two individuals have the same condition does not necessarily mean they will have the same experience. Migraines are not just migraines, there are several different types with varying degrees of severity. The same goes for anxiety and just about everything. 

  • hasacluemaine

    I was recently discharged from a local hospital with an oxagen reading of 90, from a cold and chronic bronchitis. Guess I shoulld be dead. I did get a whopping bill for 4 hours in the hospital, because my deductable has to be met. I went back to work the next day.

  • Anonymous

    Then you must oppose closing residential/group homes for the developmentally disabled? 

  • Anonymous

    That’s a really good idea…it’s a win-win.

  • Anonymous

    It’s standard operating procedure for disability applicants to be denied on their first application, and even on their second. It often takes years before the applicant gets a favorable decision. So what are these people supposed to do in the meantime?

    And what makes you think that you can determine a person’s disability status based on a newspaper story?

  • Anonymous

    Who said the acid reflux disease in this case was a disabling condition?

    Nevertheless, acid reflux isn’t your standard heartburn. It can be a longterm condition that can lead to throat cancer.

  • Anonymous

    Methinks you need to educate yourself on what panic disorder is. It is not your standard “anxiety.”

  • hasacluemaine

    Yes, I take the same meds as she does for acid reflux..it is only $8 freaking dollars a month. Probably cheaper than her dog food.

  • Anonymous

    She would lose her health care until she gets a favorable decision on her disability application. In the meantime, her health could very well get worse to the point of requiring more expense.

  • Anonymous

    Canada’s laughing really?  One of my online friends went to the ER with appendicitis, a Canadian citizen, with their wonderful Government Health Care. She was given pain killers and told to come back when they call her with a surgery date.  Her appendix ruptured, she got peritonitis, and damn near died. Before being driven across the border and given Medical Care in Washington!

  • Anonymous

    I know people who have had to wait as many as three years to get a favorable disability decision. It’s just about automatic that an applicant will be denied the first time, and a good bet the applicant will be denied the second time.

    As for using savings, one emergency room visit can cost $1,000.

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t a blog.

  • Anonymous

    Bull… the deductions are the same as they are for foodstamps the same numbers are used. It is 2000 after deductions for a family of 3.

  • Anonymous

    And it takes 6 months to get SSI!

  • Anonymous

    She needs a better lawyer then because I know one getting it that never worked a day in her adult life! And for the usual bs reasons.

  • hasacluemaine

    The group homes you describe have been bleeding the residents of their SSDI income  for decades. Are they not already covered for health care by the feds?

  • Anonymous

    Hard to believe all the whiners have to figure out how to pay for their own methadone now!

  • Anonymous

    So tell us, how do you know what medication she needs for her condition?

  • Anonymous

    We pay 800 a month for 3 people and it pays nothing till we pay the first 4000 and 300. In fact we’ve paid for eye policy since Oct when the mills re-opened and found out we can’t even use it till January? Talk about theft? Oh and there are no copays you pay all of it.  Till you pay off the 4300 and then you still pay 10% of everything.  And the same policy the same number of people in the family at Lincoln’s Mill is 260! And who do we have to thank for the East Mill insurance ?
    The UNION of course!! Never had a use for them and never will.  So in other words since your don’t pay even the norm for your insurance, have a 70/30 split I’d say you better be kissing that insurance card every time you use it.

  • hasacluemaine

    Duh, the drug was in the photo.

  • Anonymous

    Betcha she buys the best cat food for that feline though. 

  • Anonymous

    Non-catagorical = not any reason to be on it.  Sleep apnea does not require oxygen when you are wide awake all day. Therefore no reason she couldn’t work.

  • Anonymous

    Article didn’t say she was. 

    Why assume this woman is doing anything but taking care of her mother? The poisonous atmosphere that’s been created and promoted by the extreme Right-wing in this state, including the governor, and demonstrated by your baseless conclusion that something fraudulent is going on here, is incredibly offensive. 

  • Dan Troop

    “I can’t afford to buy insurance,” said Betina Pelletier, who runs a day care out of her home in Oakland. Both she and her elderly mother, whom Pelletier cares for full time, are on MaineCare. Her mother had a stroke several years ago and has no short-term memory, so she forgets if she has eaten or taken her medications, Pelletier said.
    “Because I have to be in the home to take care of her, it limits my ability to earn an income,” she said.

    Maybe DHHS should look into who is actually caring for the kids in the daycare if she has to devote so much time to caring for her mother.

    The fact of the matter is that Ms. Pelletier’s mother will not be affected by the cuts. Ms. Pelletier knows this just as well as the person who write this story and the BDN who printed it. God forbid we every printed the facts.

  • Anonymous

    Just look at a Hannaford store they hire them constantly. That’s why I found my dozen hamburg buns smashed under 6 cans of vegetables and a 2 liter of Pepsi! Good thing I didn’t buy the hamburger there to put in the buns!

  • http://www.bangordailynews.com Bangor Daily News

    We have addressed this in an updated version of the story: Bouchard applied for disability status but was denied and is pursuing an appeal through the courts, she said.

  • Anonymous

    If it is so much better, why are you still here? It’s funny that I have relatives that married Canadians and moved them down here for a better life.

  • Dan Troop

    Read and re-read the story. Couldn’t find where is said someone was slated to die. I also have family in Canada and I’ve never heard one of them rave about their health care. I’ll end by reminding you that the BDN does not need any help spreading the propaganda, they do quite well on their own!!!!

  • hasacluemaine

    The map graph is very misleading. The more urban areas down south show red, but the population is much larger. For instance, Cumberland County, a heavily populated area has a use rate of about 1%. Washington County, a rural area, has a use rate of nearly 2.5% of the total population.

  • Anonymous

    It’s nothing but a trained doctor’s  excuse for not telling the patient to pull up her big girl pants and deal with the world it’s not going to change because you don’t like it. And I don’t mean trained as in having 3 or 4 degrees from schools in South America. I mean trained to write the right things on the paper to get the whiners on SSI! Prime example guy gets SSI because he has a mental problem and can’t be around people.  Where is he every friday and saturday night ??? The bar! Spending our tax dollars on alcohol mixing it with the stack of bottles of mind altering meds he has from about 4 different doctors! Oh did I mention there are about 20 people in the bar? About the same or more than most departments in a factory, or in an office.

  • Millicent

    when my mom was admitted in september they had no clue how she was alive. Her levels were in the 70′s.

    and her levels only stay that high when she’s on the oxygen, with out it, she’d be dead.

  • Anonymous

    They should have had some children, abusing drugs helps too!

  • Anonymous

    Exactly she is exactly as much as if the mother was in the nursing home. And that is why she is crying LePage is axing her 800 a month she seems to forget she’s getting!

  • Anonymous

    They will if the family member is a CNA, or an RN !! And they get respite money as well to hire others to come in so they can go on vacation etc. 

  • Anonymous

    One word  D I R I G O! (Baldachi)

  • Guest

    But jj16oz you’re paying top dollar for for the best medical care known to man!!! Remember if the US health care system changes we’re just one step away from becoming Nazis. Think about that next time you’re paying your bill and smile, George Washington would have.

  • Anonymous

    Ever hear of disability insurance that you can purchase for yourself? It will take you through those years until you are covered by S.S.I.. Oh wait a minute, I can’t be wasting my money on that. I will have the Maine taxpayers pay that for me if I should become ill in the future. After all, the liberals say I have the right to take money away from those who have more than I.

  • hasacluemaine

    You strike me as that really funny Saturday Night Live character, who always has something much more meanigful to report, than the previous respondent. I find it curious that you could cite your Mother’s exact oxagen levels and the specifics of oxagen tool supply usage, but neglected to inform readers of how dire your “mothers” condition was. I will no longer respond to you.

  • Anonymous

    You are correct. Sleep apnea does not require oxygen…in fact, it would be a pretty ineffective treatment for sleep apnea because a lack of oxygen is not the problem with sleep apnea. 
    The woman is on oxygen because she has COPD…or, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. “Chronic” as well as “progressive”…you know what that means, I hope. “Pulmonary” which relates to the lungs…if you didn’t know or put two and two together. It was right there in the article…I guess you missed it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZUUJHGSKP2H3VUX44LDTYOWSM Darlene Soule

    before you go and buy health insurance across state lines, you better be sure it will cover what you think its going to cover. That is one of the reasons it is cheaper in other states , they have less (laws?/rules?/ oversight?/ I’d have to research to get the exact facts ), 
     but and any pre-existing conditions may never be covered depending on what state your buying in. 
    some info from*http://www.healthreform.gov (
    In 45 states across the country, insurance companies can discriminate against people based on their pre-existing conditions when they try to purchase health insurance directly from insurance companies in the individual insurance market. Insurers can deny them coverage, charge higher premiums, and/or refuse to cover that particular medical condition. A recent national survey estimated that 12.6 million non-elderly adults5 – 36 percent of those who tried to purchase health insurance directly from an insurance company in the individual insurance market – were in fact discriminated against because of a pre-existing condition in the previous three years.6
    In another survey, one in 10 people with cancer said they could not obtain health coverage, and six percent said they lost their coverage, because of being diagnosed with the disease.
    It is still legal in nine states for insurers to reject applicants who are survivors of domestic violence, citing the history of domestic violence as a pre-existing condition.8
    Even when offering coverage, insurers can exclude whole categories of illnesses related to a pre-existing condition. For example, someone with a pre-existing condition of hay fever could have any respiratory system disease – such as bronchitis or pneumonia – excluded from coverage.9)

  • Anonymous

    Why dont you set an example of your generosity and contact a few of the people this article was base on and give them some help

  • Anonymous

    I hear Massachusetts has a good health care program, perhaps these people should move there or elsewhere!!

    Keep up the good work Governor LePage!!

  • Anonymous

    People are getting disability for dyslexia, poor math skills, methadone addiction, obesity, and the list goes on and on. It all needs to stop so we can have the money to help those who really need it. 

  • Anonymous

    I have a 5 year old nephew getting it

  • Anonymous

    how do you report all of our state’s government committing fraud?  we sure could save a lot of money taking care of the raping going on in augusta…and washington!  they are paid too much by those whose throats they want to cut and bask comfortably in health benefits we afford for them but are unable to do so for ourselves.  and for prior remarks concerning disability…it took me over 3 years to get mine.  i have major diseases…heart and lung.  do you honestly believe that i prefer collecting poverty level disability over the great living i earned working at a job i loved?  fraud needs to be addressed first and foremost!

  • Anonymous

    Hang out at the hope house and you will be enlightened.

  • Anonymous

    And if you pay as little as $5.00 per month they wont bother you.

  • Anonymous

    There is no federal Medicaid per se….the feds give money to the states for that. For every dollar the state spends, the federal government matches them and plus some. So no, if they are cut off of Mainecare, they will have no healthcare and no way to get the services they require. 

    Those group homes are not bleeding the residents of their SSDI income…I worked in that field some years ago and I never saw such a thing. And even if they were…why would you be so concerned when you are so unconcerned that this helpless and vulnerable portion of our communities will be thrown out with nowhere to go. Seems like you’re just grabbing at straws because you have no valid argument. 

  • Millicent

    just replying in conversation, not trying to “one up” anyone.  I don’t feel I need to prove anything. Perhaps just having the conversation is helping me to deal with the feelings of losing my mom. It’s been a long road for us, with many pains. I’m not ready to let her go. 

    I find this whole story interesting, even though my own mother is not on Mainecare, she’s on Medicare, and without it she wouldn’t have been able to receive the care that she has so far. She has many of the symptoms of the woman in the article, perhaps that is why I can relate both.

    I understand how you feel about my posts, don’t believe everything you read on the net. I don’t. It’s all good.

  • Anonymous

    Wasn’t you comparing our healthcare to Switzerland last month?  

  • Anonymous

    What assurance do you have that AFLAC or any similar company will pay if the disability actually occurs? I have known people that had insurance. They thought they were completely covered. You don’t actually know how good your insurance is until you have to use it. Many insurance companies that find loopholes when you make a claim.

  • Anonymous

    No need for specifics but I realize that in some cases people born with cognitive or physical disabilities or children who have deceased parent(s) receive SSI.  

  • Guest

    Yes, and the article does say that she has zero income. She will lose her MaineCare insurance if LePage has his way.

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    if i can learn how to overcome panic attacks on my own, 95% of the people should be able to figure it out with a quick visit to a psychiatrist. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know what the answer is but the state & taxpayers can no longer financially sustain if something is not done.  I do not think for a moment that this person will lose her oxygen &  disability related medications nor do I think that this will leave our elderly citizens out on the streets.   I do think that  her antianxiety, acid reflux & ride to the doctors will be cut. Somethings got to give & the disabled  are going to have to give up something as we taxpayers do with every paycheck year after year.   It’s not out of spite, it is absolute necessity &  we all need to do our part, whatever that part must be.

  • Guest

    Employee’s that work as convience store clerks, gas attendants, waitress’s, etc. can hardly pay rent let alone an extra expense. Get real.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm. You just summed up Universal Health care in a nutshell, and got 5 likes to show for it. I totally agree with what you say. It would make a ton of sense to all. Just don’t repeat it and use the Universal term because that’s when everybody panics. It’s the same thing, but something about that title seems to bother people.  lmao

  • Guest

    Were not you, not wasn’t you.

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    It is still the “without children” thing that gets me. why should a 32 year old male (that would be me) be treated any differently depending on if i have kids?  cut all 18 to 60 year olds without a disability and i might actually agree. 

  • Guest

  • Guest

    Yes, and many disabled have multible disabilities. Social Security denies a lot of claims that should be approved. I hope that Janet obtained a disability attorney who does that type of work specifically.

  • Guest

    he says he has a clue?

  • Guest

    hard to believe, really? did you watch any of the republican debates? Did  you watch  them clap and cheer?

  • Anonymous

    Move to China.
    See how you like it there.
    “Soylent Green”

  • Guest

    I agree with what your saying, however, have you ever paid your bills and had a dollar or less for food. Poor people, working people have nothing left. It is especially hard to get affordable fresh foods in some places of Maine. It would be nice it were easier for people to live well.

    Personally, I try to let food be my medicine. Ginger every morning for pain and imflamation. Chorella and tumeric, green tea, lemon water, juicing and eating almost no animal products are some of my habits. Everyone can’t do that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HOUSLFGTSDB4ZOKMUK5ZPEX47A Antonio Giarratano

    How many of these people pay some form of premium? Got to pay in to get a pay out. Oh, wait, you don’t in this state, unless you need it, then you lose it. So, here’s a little advice for the people that will be losing their benefits, make a million dollars and start a business, then maybe they will give you benefits again

  • Anonymous

    Those are all entry level jobs. If you want better you need to do better. Sorry my bad again, I forgot it’s easier to get on welfare than it is to try and better yourself. What was I thinking?

  • Anonymous

    Scrooge: “Are there no prisons….and the union workhouses, are they still in operation….they cost enough, and those  who are badly off must go there.” Gentleman: ” many can’t go there and many would rather die.” “If they would rather die, said Scrooge, “they had better die and decrease the surplus population.”
    My, my, at the beginning of the year’s most festive season, what would Dickens say? I think we know. 

  • Anonymous

    I had said insurance through Prudential. No problems with my claim at all. Granted I only used it for a year until I was back on my feet, but I didn’t have to rely on tax payer’s money to save me. I was taught to look to the future, not for a hand out. 

  • Guest

    Oxygen

  • Guest

    Sorry about your Mom.

  • Anonymous

    See even with a public education I am still taking care of myself. I’m not a b.s.er so I’m not that worried about my grammar. Is that all you got?

  • Guest

    NONE of you business. If and when she gets her SSDI it will because she is disabled and she paid into the fund. It is NOT an entitilment. That is horse _____.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TJYZV7JWWJCPG7BX65EM6UOHZ4 Skowhegan Resident

    The neighborhood i live in has  four able-bodied 20 year old-somethings that speed up and down the streets every night in supped-up exhaust trucks  they live at home and they sleep til noon …..they have maine care cards ALL LEGAL—god strike me dead right now if i lie   about what i know

    this is the cr-p that has to stop

  • Anonymous

    Keep cutting Governor.  You know you are doing the right thing when all the liberal democrats come out crying.  They have been spending hard earned republican money for over 40 years and the day of reckoning has come.   Their crying is a beautiful Christmas music to our ears!

  • Anonymous

    More hatred, what a surprise.  Why don’t we all help out.  Hey, I have a good idea, lets get something like the Canadian system.

  • Guest

    You are not worried about y0ur grammar, and yet, you call yourself ‘know it all”. Better change that screen name. I could give you a few suggestions.

  • Anonymous

    Callous, bias, oblivious.  If you can read the above article and not see that the woman in the picture is facing death, you are wearing blinders.

    45,000 Americans die each year because they can’t afford health insurance:

    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

  • Guest

    People with entry level jobs aren’t allowed to get sick or become disabled. Your brillant.

  • Anonymous

    Oooh, an anecdote.  Do you know how much your anecdote is worth in terms of serious evidence?  Zero.

    Here is a Harvard Study.  This means something:

    “Even though some Canadians complain about having to wait for operations, when their universal cover is compared to America’s patchy services where tens of millions of people have no cover at all, America’s overall
    medical services are seen as inferior Canada’s.

    Canadians, per head, spend much less than Americans do on health, and end up receiving much more and much better health care – Canadians are also enjoying far better health.”

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/44315.php

  • Anonymous

     So sad if the Governor gets his way the Grave diggers are going to be very busy in the next few years! That is Harroble bad News for the Poor people of Maine and Yes Most of them  Do Work!!

  • Anonymous

    America is way behind Canada on health and happiness, according to serious studies.  Your anecdotal evidence is worth zip.  50 million americans can’t even afford to see a doctor.  50 million.  Does that even faze you?

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/44315.php

  • Anonymous

    Society doesn’t care about childless adults…….you must breed if you want all of the perks!

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a thought…cut out the stuff that Mainecare pays for that isn’t medically necessary…for example…braces for kids…that is purely cosmetic. I PAY for insurance and can’t afford the 5K that braces are costing nowadays..it would be a good start.

  • Anonymous

    I gues

  • http://twitter.com/sue6534 Susan Watson

    but there are people that are eligible for disability, such as my brother, that was given disability but made the choice that he would rather work in intense pain than live off the generosity of others, and be a burden. The woman is making a choice to NOT take pain medications that could help, and many of us HAVE to take in order to be able to work…that is her choice

  • Anonymous

    my wife lived in canada for many years, she could tell you the truth about the canadian health care system, and believe me you wouldnt like the truth

  • Anonymous

    there was no hatred , that is why america is so wonderful you are free to help anyone you like at any time and likewise for me, no one is stopping you speak with your wallet instead of your drooling  jowels

  • Anonymous

    You don’t expect them to let them live there rent free, do you? Don’t you have to pay rent or a mortgage? And just because your cousin will be moving into an apartment that does not mean everyone can. Some of the people that live in group homes will never be able to live independently. 

    Your comment proves nothing other than the fact that I didn’t mention that there are varying degrees of developmental disability.

  • http://www.Verizonsucksass.com Johnny Test

    Cut all free healthcare

  • Anonymous

    there is some misinformation here. SSI is a welfare program. It has nothing to do with the person having paid a # quarters into the system. she may have been going for SSDI, which is based on having paid into the system. The person should try for SSI.

  • Anonymous

    This is a very biased article & there is little investigation to back up these claims.. we can only wait & see. This kind of article, does not fully tell us what other benifits, such as federal benifits, these people get. I am sorry for those in poor health, but I think there ia alot more to these stories than meets the eye..

  • Anonymous

    And you know this HOW!

  • Guest

    Whoa! Sorry your offended. I am simply stating the FACTS. I am not trying to prove anything, are you? Maybe you should reread the post with an open mind.

  • Anonymous

    Another one who is oblivious as to the condition and how it effects people. Don’t get me wrong folks, there are hundreds if not thousands of people who are cheating the system, and I certainly don’t condone that.  For every 1 person who gets benefits out of need I know about, I know about 10 that get them who shouldn’t. I am just saying don’t lump everyone into one basket here and pretend some of these problems aren’t real. It just shows arrogance and a lack of compassion and that doesn’t look good on anybody.

  • Anonymous

    Call Bangor DHHS Monday and ask to speak with the supervisor in  MaineCare. Make a complaint about the family, have a name & as much information as possible.

  • Anonymous

    I wasn’t talking about this women, I was talking in general, we all have choices. My point was it take longer then a few months to get SSI or SSID. I also know people, that I think, shouldn’t have disability, I also know people who can are truly disabled and been denied.
    As for metal illness, it can be very debilitating, some of you should educate yourselves, before you spout off. Not everybody in this world is the same, not everyone is a smart as others, and not everyone who get help is lazy.

  • Guest

    How about if your doctor deems you disabled.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t call myself knowitall. My best friend calls me that

  • Anonymous

    The link you posted only proves my suspicions. There are more fat, lazy, and useless welfare recipients in America than there is in Canada. Please help me prove more.

  • Anonymous

    When Mainecare began having problems was when they first changed over to a new system that did not work.  Mainecare lost a lot of money because of this system.  Now they have another system in place that I do not know how it is working.  Because of the first changeover, MaineCare is in deep trouble and now the citizens of the state of Maine will pay the price. Yes, there are some who abuse the system and they are the ones who should be targeted.  I see people on  mainecare, foodstamps, TANF but the they can afford new vehicles!!!

  • Guest

    Someday you will be collecting Social Security and have Medicare as health insurance also. We pay into the system for a reason.

  • Anonymous

    You were implying that only people who paid in were getting the benefits. Now what is your argument?

  • Anonymous

    I honestly didn’t think of it that way, but I guess your right.  I can’t claim this as my genious idea anymore then huh?

  • Anonymous

    You must be better than me. That’s why you have to blow your own horn. So sad.

  • Anonymous

    Whatsa screen name?

  • Anonymous

    What happened to you praise of Switzerland?

  • Anonymous

    That’s a tough one. I still have to say that we have to rely on goverment criteria and process. I think we would have alot more people getting disability if we went by a doctor’s opinion soley. That’s why there is  (or should be) a well rounded panel when deciding disability cases.

  • Anonymous

    What about all the methheads that haven’t paid anything but are getting the bennies? Is that why we pay into a broken system?

  • Anonymous

    I am confused.  I’ve read in this newspaper that the Medicaid program is paying $1.72 for every $1.00 spent by MaineCare.  If this is true how can you have a shortfall unless you are using the money from the government for other purposes?

  • Jay Ellingsen

    What did these people do for the many decades before Mainecare?

  • Anonymous

    SSI or SSD?

  • Anonymous

    SSD you pay into — SSI much less and if you make any money or have money you don’t get SSI

  • Anonymous

    May be able to collect on parents SSD as a minor or disabled

  • Anonymous

    It generally takes 6 mos after last day on the job to get “SSD.”

  • Anonymous

    If truly disabled & qualified they will prevail — it’s not a fun battle, but a battle that can be won.

  • Anonymous

    you voted for obama?

  • Anonymous

    It used to be called Medicaid.

  • Anonymous

    Oop’s, I replied to the wrong post, it used to be called Medicaid.

  • Anonymous

    SSI is not something earned & it would not even cover the expenses of the group home.  Try volunteering to help out in a group home if you think it’s bleeding people of their “income.”

  • Anonymous

    Open your mind, open your mind!

  • Anonymous

    Agree with F11 report them bastards!

  • Anonymous

    Damn right I would report mom if she was a fraud!

  • Anonymous

    I won’t tell.  :-)

  • Anonymous

    I agree…it seems she would get MaineCare.  I also say GOOOOOOO LePage!

  • Anonymous

    I agree…I know someone who has back pain……and can not work yet can do more walking in one day and more housework that me……funny how she can do that yet not have a job.

  • sassyfrazz

    People have zero clue how expensive health care is.  Zero. 

    MaineCare barely pays what it’s billed now.  If it pays nothing and people come to the ER, paying $5.00 won’t even cover the electric bill.

    Be prepared for loss of services. It’s coming.  Health care providers can’t operate on nothing.  

  • Anonymous

    It’s not obvious to me that she is disabled.  The article said:-she injured her back and shoulder in 2008 and has chronic pain
    -She has:
     -Panic disorder
     -Acid reflux
     -Migraines
     -Mild sleep apnea, which makes breathing difficult

    Millions work every day with panic disorder, some managed with biofeedback, others with medication.  Millions have severe acid reflux and go to work every day.  Millions have migraines and manage it with their choice of dozens of Rx so they can live their life and go to work every day.  Millions have mild sleep apnea, use a CPAP machine and go to work every day.  A family member of mine has severe sleep apnea and it does not make breathing difficult.

    If this woman HAD to work, my guess is she could drag herself out of bed/her house and probably do a great job once she put her mind to it.  ”Programs” make it too easy to throw in the towel.

  • Anonymous

    The state of Maine got my mother’s life saving when I had to put her in a nursing home.  Many of my so called liberal friends told me they made sure the state didn’t get their parents money.  It’s only fair to pay the state and in return they will take care of my mother the rest of her life.  I am not the least bit worried that Gov LePage will abandon our elderly .  The liberals are trying to scare people, shame on them.  They are the evil ones.

  • Anonymous

    No it’s the liberals who are hateful and evil.  They are lying and trying to scare the disable and elderly.  Shame on them.

  • Anonymous

    If Canada is so great, move there.  Don’t change our country.

  • Anonymous

    What did you disagree with ?

  • Anonymous

    Many more die from medical malpractice  Why do you want people to think health care is the most important item they should have.  unless it is truly necessary stay away from doctors.

  • Anonymous

    We in America are addicted to going to the pharmaceutical controlled health care system.  Let’s stop this craziness.

  • Anonymous

    You are addicted to the pharmaceutical medical system.

  • Guest

    I agree with you. I need to clarify what I meant. Basically if a doctor says your disabled and your low income that person should get the MaineCare. When someone moves to section 8 housing into an Elderly complex they can qualify without being elderly if they are disabled. They will accept a doctor’s letter even without being approved for SSI and SSDI. Maybe that is because it takes time to be approved, but I am really not sure about why.

  • Tyke

    Duh, the drug in the photo is an OTC med. Of course if she has a prescription it is a different one!

    Assume much?

  • Guest

    yup

  • Guest

    Look into your crystal ball, look into your unknown future.

  • Anonymous

    Why else would you state facts other than to prove something? 

    You say your cousin only gets to keep $50/mo….”only” being the key word here….implying that he should get to keep more of his money. Doesn’t sound like you’re just stating facts just for the heck of it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSBAAXFEXTIBDSRA5X3FA6TSG4 jersey

    The state of Maine pays mothers to take care of their own grandchildren. I work in the system..this woman is getting plenty of state money. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSBAAXFEXTIBDSRA5X3FA6TSG4 jersey

    I know all about it. i work for the state. 

  • Tyke

    The part where the audience booed an active service member was easy to disagree with.

     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSBAAXFEXTIBDSRA5X3FA6TSG4 jersey

    Wanna know why she ‘lives with her boyfriend’. Because she wont get welfare if she marry’s him. 

  • Guest

    SSDI – There is a 6 month waiting period where the disabled person gets zero. It could take years to be approved. Then it takes three years before they are eligible for Medicare. This is the SSDI benefits as opposed to SSI. They may/or may not be eligible for SSI during the 6 month period.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W3772AM5CL56CYRNKD4ELYMNEM Mainah Forevah

    Sorry if I am repeating someone else observations here…..didn’t feel like reading hundreds of comments…..
    I noticed that the lady in the story has a few pets.   Completely irresponsible…..the money spent on the cat and dog should be set aside for bills and NECCESITIES!  I am so sick of hearing I can’t pay my bills or I am behind on my mortgage…..most of these people have internet, satellite TV, cell phones, and buy items that are not NEEDED.  Then they cry that they are doing everything that they can.  What a bunch of bull.  These people need to get rid of all the fluff in their lives and live off  a grocery list of : milk, cereal, spaghetti, sauce, bread, and pb and J.  Once they are doing that and still can not make ends meet then I will lend them some sympathy! 

  • Guest

    You got problems. That is all he gets, you got it, fifty bucks a month. Is that too much? The group home should take it all. Do YOU own a group home? If so, then you know how much profit is made in Group Homes.

  • Anonymous

    I see what your saying. I only know individuals who are disabled (per the goverment) so they automatically qualify for eldery/disabled housing.  Most subsidies and places  will accept if a diagnosis  is given by a medical provider or mental health professional and yet they do not qualify for SSI/SSDI. I still think we would be in worse trouble if a doctor’s word alone allowed people Mainecare-it would be way to easy. Usually if one is in the process of applying/appealing  disability they can get Mainecare during this time. DHHS can also declare someone disbaled even if the goverment does not (though rarely) so they do qualify for Mainecare. It’s complicated.

  • Anonymous

    People move to ME because it is known as a Welfare State.  Get the all people sucking off the state and off Medicare OFF the program.  If you are 20 -60 or whatever the age is and not disabled, drag your sorry butt out and get a job and provide for yourself – have some pride.  So many have their hands out waiting for freebies and abuse the programs.

  • hasacluemaine

    The drug featured in the photo is the one given for acid reflux…some of you need basic reading and sight comprehension.

  • Anonymous

    Oooh, a Harvard study. Do you know how much your Harvard study is worth in terms of serious evidence? Zero.

  • Anonymous

    Your attitude sucks a bit, don’t you think? Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    Assuming she can find work, what salary would she have to make to not be eligible for MaineCare? Even if she held a job it probably wouldn’t allow her access to health insurance.
    You would have done well evicting Okies in ’34.

  • Anonymous

    Someone who writes “good riddens” probably shouldn’t be offering grammar pointers.

  • Anonymous

    what is it that you think that they are doing? Not everyone has a family that gives a damned. I commend your post, but you have to understand that it’s not the norm.

  • Anonymous

    Which one of these disabled people needs cigarettes as part of their medical treatment plan ?…Perhaps they belong to the BDN reporter ? I doubt it !! Also, who feeds the pets ? I AM sorry for their situation, but when and where does the madness end ? In my honest opinion, Gov. LePage was elected to resolve some very important issues, but when he makes an attempt to do so , WE the VOTERS squawk that he’s either not doing enough, not doing the right things or doing to much.

  • OldWench

    I have figured out from reading a lot of these stories about people who supposedly see all this fraud that most of the time they are just making things up to try to justify their hatefulness.  

  • OldWench

    All it would take would be for her to not be able to breathe and feel like she was going to die once to be traumatic enough to cause future panic attacks.  And she is on oxygen for God’s sake.  My mother had to be on that for the last year of her life and she could barely move to the bathroom, let alone work.  Also, whenever people saw her coming with that oxygen tank they got pretty nervous that it could explode.

  • OldWench

    I personally know someone with an illness that is considered to be terminal as their doctor straight up told them this will kill them, their illness is slowly destroying all organ systems in the body.  We were neighbors in 2007.  They had applied for disability in 2006.  They didn’t finally get approved until late in 2009.

  • OldWench

    No they don’t, lol…some of you people are so ridiculous when you make these kinds of claims.

  • OldWench

    People with Multiple Sclerosis have horrible pain and often can’t work but are advised to walk and move around as much as possible to maintain their ability to stay out of a wheelchair for as long as possible.

  • OldWench

    A lot of people don’t want to take the pain medication because they are opiates and it is often long term pain issues treated with opiates that lead to addiction and has put many people into methadone programs in the state.

  • OldWench

    Harvard is actually one of the most respected universities in the world.

  • Anonymous

    childless able bodied people. How about taking the able bodied mothers off Mainecare? Leave the kids on mainecare but boot the Mothers. Having children does not qualify you as disabled.

  • Anonymous

    And my207input is suddenly silent?

    Of course.

  • Anonymous

    Where did your wife live in Canada? When did she live there? What were the nature of her unspecified “problems” with the Canadian health care system? Golly, unsupported claims ARE easier to toss around and throw out there than reasoned arguments that are somehow substantiated, aren’t they?

  • Anonymous

    Do you know how stupid your knee-jerk anti-Harvard prejudice makes you look?
    Of course not.

  • Anonymous

    Evil? Pretty strong word there. Maybe you just disagree with “those people.”

  • Anonymous

    They need to hire more investigators just for the insurace fraud unit and get rid of the people who shouldn’t be on it first.Also go thru the disability benefits.There are many who were awarded disability because of back problems who work to and receive more money then the honest hard working person. Look into all these first. Look into the Caregiver program some states have (Mass.is one) which is paid by the Federal gov.so families can take care of their loved ones at home and get paid for it.It would save the state money.

  • Anonymous

    Meanwhile; back in China their health care system is improving for it’s billion + citizens. Due to China’s affluent economic standing. All thanks to the U.S. governments lack of concern for America and it’s willingness to sell Americas citizens out, to a communist country who will probably eventually be taking control of Americas citizens and America.                             

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Sounds like the audience did the booing so how is that reflective of the debate?

  • Guest

    COPD and it looks like someone in the house smokes, whether they smoke in the home or she is is exposed to second hand smoke, QUIT SMOKING. I know Mainecare will pay for the cost of the patch.

  • http://twitter.com/Kadja2 TheRealDOUBLET

    When government officials many of which are as wealthy as the ones they want to take more $ from volunteer to take a pay cut first, then I’ll be “open minded” to a discussion about any other cuts they want to. 

  • Anonymous

    In order for any reasonable person viewing this article to be able to reach any objective decision as to whether or not the needs of these folks could only be reached by this particular program, one would need to know a whole lot more about the specific case and  ALL the circumstances surrounding it.

    There are all kinds of reasons for  SS disability to be “denied” not the least of which is a persons work history in the last 10 yrs, often “not enough work history”.  A few simple questions could have uncovered much of  that.

    A person injured on the job in 2008 could very well still be in the Workman’s Comp system. If not in the system, how come? Was the case “settled” with a financial payment as they often are? Even I can come up with simple questions that should absolutely have been part of this  story.

    It is very clear that the reporter went out into the field with a pre-conceived notion of “documenting this need” by seeking out certain cases wherever they could be found, and investigating only enough to get the  story from the family members, and taking that totally at face value, with absolutely no further investigation of any kind.

    The readers are done a terrible disservice by this, and objective news reporting takes another contrived “hit” as rather than “news” it them becomes just “opinion” expressed on the front page of the paper.

    A much more objective story could have been developed by picking several of these kinds of cases, and investigating them at great depth, as to just exactly what are all the circumstances these people are facing, and why, and what have THEY tried to do to help themselves.

    But that would have taken far more work on the reporters part………and would not have fit into the “anti Paul Lepage” agenda that was the desired outcome……..before the story was even thought of.  Even the most casual of readers would  have noticed the anti-LePage bias on the front page of the BDN, ever since last January.  This is just more of the same.

    Our state and nation  are in serious financial jeapordy as we have way more obligations to citizens than govenment will ever be able to sustain. A disaster is in the making, if we do not change how we do things. That in itself, is the MAJOR story of the hour and an invesitgation of all of that would be more pertinent than this contrived “tear jerker” is.

    But that would NOT fit the liberal agenda of the BDN of course.

    But I give the readers a lot of credit. I read all the comments last night around 9:00 pm and I think it is safe to say that a majority of them smelled the rat and pointed to, among other things, the shallowness of the reporters “investigation” of the FACTS of this story which quite likely might have painted an entirely different picture if they had been discovered.

  • Anonymous

    Do you know how stupid your belief in Harvard makes you look?  ”Golly, it’s a Haahvaad study – it must be divinely inspired”.  
    Most of the term papers submitted at Pierre’s Beauty School are more credible than the study cited by our resident Marxist.

  • OldWench

    Do you not see the oxygen tube?  What job, exactly, do you think she can do that someone who was cashiering in a convenience store/gas station could do?  Obviously she doesn’t have professional experience or she would not have been working as a cashier in a gas station in her 50′s.  Do you expect her to work the grill at McDonald’s while carrying around her oxygen tank?  Get real…

  • Anonymous

    The bigger issue here is that people need to start taking better care of themselves, period.  Stop smoking, exercise, don’t live at McDonald’s drive thru and TEACH your kids this.  Most people don’t just “get ” COPD, it’s generally brought on by years of tobacco abuse or in some situations working in a mine or some similar type job.  Many of the people who are chronically ill have self inflicted much of it.  Not always but for the most part.  Drug companies own us, they charge far too much so they can dote on the Doctor’s.  Stop by any medical office any day of the week and it’s very likely that they are all enjoying lunch from some expensive local restaurant delivered to them. 

  • Anonymous

    The point isn’t whether or not Harvard is a respected university – its the commenter’s arrogant dismissal of Lollipopaddict’s personal experience as irrelevant because it’s an anecdote.  I work with a number of Canadians and their “anecdotes” reflect Lollipopaddict’s experience  - this seems to be prevalent enough that a Harvard study should not be seen as the definitive analysis of Canadian well-being or America misery.

  • Anonymous

    If it wasn’t a privacy issue I could give you 20 names to verify my claim. And that’s just the ones I’ve had to deal with.

  • Anonymous

    Your comparing apples to oranges.

  • Anonymous

    We cannot afford to carry this load in its current format. Something has to change. Make a constructive suggestion.

  • Anonymous

    I’m having a battle of whits with an unarmed man. Why did you remove your comment? Didn’t want anyone else to know your I.Q.?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DCFFFVHTQQICIWH4NEIO6AIDIA scott

    So I just need to “work” hard at complaining about problems for two or three years to end up with a lifetime of benefits.  Sounds good to me.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, our system is soooo much better than Canada’s…no problem at all, right?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    WoW!

    Evil Liberals , they just want to spend our money and scare poor disabled people !

    WOW!

  • Anonymous

    That ‘anecdote’ could be an outright untruth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    There seems to be a contagious wave of hateful emotion about,

    It reminds me of Germany in the 30′s 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Politicians are thier constituency!

  • Anonymous

    50,000 Americans freeze to death each year because Democrats make it harder to heat their homes due to policies that cause high energy costs.

  • Anonymous

    My sister lives in Canada and her husband died waiting for cancer treatment. He even came to the USA/Boston and was told to get treatment asap or he would die. He died on a waiting list thanks to Canada’s health service.

  • Anonymous

    Harvard? Please. I trust 200 people I pick out of the phone book to be better judges of society, health care and common sense than those liberal droids.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Thanks for the evaluation Dr. WAitken

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    In addition to chronic pain from that fall, she also suffers from panic disorder, acid reflux, migraines and mild sleep apnea, which makes breathing difficult, she said. MaineCare pays for her doctor’s visits and five prescriptions. She refuses to take pain medications for fear of getting hooked.

    I am going to take the Radical Rights Side for a Moment!

    That describes fifty percent of the people over 50!

    As for  She refuses to take pain medications for fear of getting hooked.

    Maybe its for fear of getting UN hooked from Mainecare

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W3772AM5CL56CYRNKD4ELYMNEM Mainah Forevah

    Not just for the health benefits but the cost too!  Get rid of the pets, tabacco, any extras like satellite TV, internet, cell phones, netflix, etc etc.  Buy only the minimum groceries (cereal, milk, spaghetti, sauce, bread, pb and jelly) and then see how much $ they can save for bills etc.  Until they actually make an effort to help themselves they should receive NO help from anyone else.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not Medicare that’s the problem, it’s Mainecare.

  • Anonymous

    Getting ready to write the same thing when I saw your post.  You are absolutely correct!  Scare tactics by the left!

  • Anonymous

    That’s BS.  It’s 2 years, ask anyone who has applied.  I know a case, which I reported incidentally, and nothing was done about it, where a woman frauded the system by waiting her ’2′ years and eventually go disability. The frauders know exactly how much time they have to wait; has not a thing to do with their ‘real’ or ‘supposed’ disability. I’ve reported her twice.

  • Anonymous

    glad you’ve seen the light . . .

  • Anonymous

    Lol! The Democrats cause high energy costs? All the oil traders and speculators are Democrats? lol. Nice try governor, we know it is you, and we know that too is a lie.

  • Dumbb All Over

    How do they afford a dog though?  They should be able to get 2-3 good meals out of that dog.

  • Anonymous

    There is a great deal of hyperbole coming from the Democrats and the BDN. Tel, me how did these people survive before they were added to the MaineCare roles in 2004?

  • Anonymous

    Were you there?

  • Anonymous

    There are some discrepancies here. The Bouchard woman from the BDN article in the paper stated to your reporter that she is a Vietnam Era Veteran, and can get limited benefits from teh VA. You made no mention of this in this article? IF she is indeed a Vet, she can get ALL her medical from teh VA, if she is on a certain income level. Also if she suffered most of this trauma from a fall at work, where does and when does workman’s compensation kick in? Did she take a lump sum payment. or why isn’t this handled at that venue. There are many questions and too few answers from this article.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you WAitken for giving us yet another reminder of GOP doctrine.  Allow me to quote a famous author to paraphrase.   “Let them die and decrease the surplus population.”  Charles Dickens

  • Anonymous

    He is more correct than you are about that. Speculators make money when the price goes down as often as they profit by it going up. In the meantime they provide liquidity which allows it to be purchased on an open market which benefits you.

  • Anonymous

    In the last decade or so these so-called academic studies more often than not, Define the answer then gather the evidence to support it.

  • Anonymous

    Why is anyone surprised that we do not have enough money to operate our local, state, and federal governments? Half the people in Maine are now working for minimum wage or not working at all. Putting people back to work at a living wage and paying taxes again will solve 90% of our problems, yet no one mentions this. Mainers used to be known for making the finest shoes, furniture, and lumber in the nation. “Free” trade has turned us into a state full of part time cashiers working for minimum wage. Our trade deficit in 2010 was $498 billion, over half with China alone. That is 498,000 million folks! If we are going to engage in finger pointing, let’s at least point it in the right direction. Write your “public servants” in Washington and demand that they turn “free” trade into fair trade. This one seemingly simple act would do more to fix our problems than all other solutions combined. Putting America back to work and paying taxes again is how we solve our problems. Not kicking the chair out from under the needy or giving more tax breaks to the people who need it the least. Ridiculous, lop sided trade agreements negotiated by our public servants has screwed this country good, unless you are in the top 1%, then life has never been better. The other 99%, not so much.

  • Anonymous

    How about we all try to get along and act like the the civilized human beings we are supposed to be.

  • Anonymous

    This woman must make a choice:  medicine or dog food.  (And finding a “boyfriend” with a good job would help, too.)

  • Anonymous

    Whatever….it’s still an entitlement program.  We have WAY too many people sucking off the teat of the state.  

  • Guest

    Bite me. How is my spelling?

  • Anonymous

    I have a problem because I do not agree with you? How mature. 

    You obviously don’t think $50 is enough…perhaps we should just give all people with developmental disabilities all of their disability money and let them spend it at their leisure. Only problem is the bills wouldn’t get paid, they wouldn’t buy themselves necessities such as soap, deodorant, shampoo, etc. If they were functioning people, they wouldn’t be in a group home. 

    I don’t know about all group homes…but the place I worked at was non-profit. The people that work there are not bad people out to take advantage of these clients….they are genuine people that really care about these clients. They are some of the same people that are in Augusta advocating for them so that they do not lose these services. 

  • Guest

    Sick of your crummy behind. Your nasty. Take a hike loser.

    My IQ? That’s funny, you should worry about your own knowverylittle.

  • Anonymous

    Fair enough. But how is this the Democrat’s fault? I may be slow, but I fail to see the connection. This is just more of the same old Democrat and Republican game that distracts from the real issues. How is arguing about which tune to play on the fiddle or which furniture to throw on the fire next going to accomplish anything? Either way, they continue to fiddle while Rome burns. Putting America back to work and paying taxes is the only thing that is going to solve our problems, anything else is just fiddle music. Turning “free” trade into fair trade and giving  American workers and American small businesses a level playing field is the real solution. Our trade deficit in 2010 was $498 billion, or 498,000 million. Almost half a trillion that has left our economy in one year alone, never to return unless it is in the form of a loan. 2011 is expected to blow the numbers for 2010 out of the water. Am I the only one who can see what is wrong with our economy? I sure feel like it when I read the news or comments on here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J5XVHRZG3GXBWY3WX3ZZAPK5DQ Harry

    ….and there in lies the problem. The “norm” is what needs changing.

  • Anonymous

    lived in st. steven for 10 years. tells me of many times visiting hospital extremely sick and waiting for over 8 hrs then going home without seeing anyone. Saw people in emergency room with substantial injuries, bleeding gashes in head and limbs that would require stitches and they waited just as long as her. Why do you think anyone that can afford it comes to the us for care it is the best. I knew you would not like the truth when you heard it

  • Guest

    Fibromyalgia is another example. Chronic back problems doctor’s suggest the same thing, “use it or lose it”

  • Guest

    Looks like your feeling a little CRABBY.

  • Anonymous

    Seamus37 –   I am referring to the program in general , not pointing fingers at this specific person.  When I see a late 20′s woman with 2 kids living off the system, food stamps, paid housing, disability (another ABUSED program and tons of fraud), there is something wrong.  There needs to be a time limit that folks can be on entitlement programs – end of story!

  • Anonymous

    Dogs are relatively cheap therapy.  She suffers from panic disorder, the presence of  a companion animal can mitigate many of the symptoms. 

  • Dumbb All Over

    How much is the annual budget in that household for the dog. You know food, vet bills…they do add up. $2000 a year is my guess.

  • Guest

    I did not remove my comment. Get a life.

  • Guest

    Whatever you say. Your attitude is such a breath of fresh air. If you don’t like it then mind your own business.

  • Anonymous

    Does Maincare pay for her dogs food too? Why can’t JACK McCoy take care of her? Handouts for all is the Maine way. No wonder the state is dead broke!!!!!! Family should take care of family & NOT get paid for it either. I love the one that takes care of her mother while she collects an income & they are BOTH on the DOLE.

  • Anonymous

    The disability system requires changes.  Applicants should not be able to collect a lump sum payment dated back to the date they first applied and were rejected.  The disability lawyers will jump all over this position because they take a big chunk of that.  However, allowing an applicant to collect back benefits encourages people to apply and not work.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to see you give up your pets, tv, internet, cell phone etc..  One cannot live very well on spaghetti cereal and pb&j sandwiches. If you were disabled how would you like to sit home alone all day with no tv, no internet, no pet to comfort you and only a PB&J sandwich to look forward to for supper?  Get real.

  • Guest

    You have a problem because you take offense to a comment that was not offensive. You are over the top. Everything is not black or white, except to you of course. Bye!!!!! Good Riddence.

  • Anonymous

    Where did you see a cat?  I  saw one dog

  • Anonymous

    Their families took care of them

  • Anonymous

    They are just going to have to die. Why all this clinging to life? We cannot afford to be a compassionate society. No one wants to pay for that. We are indeed returning to a Dickensonian callous abandonment of those who need help. And all to support the obscenely large profits of health insurance providers and those who benefit from trading their stocks. Sick, sick, sick. That is what we have become. On many levels.

  • Anonymous

    Post of the year.  Too bad the BDN “reporter” won’t read it.

  • Anonymous

    She’s panicked that she might have to go to work.  The truth will set you free.

  • Anonymous

    And, I would add to that BUY FAIRLY TRADED PRODUCTS CONSUMERS! Forget Fair Trade Certified products. Fair Trade USA has turned into just another front for big business that wants to hoodwink the public into thinking they are doing some good in the world. There are other logos you can look for. Start asking for fairly traded clothes when you shop. You will get blank looks but you will begin to win hearts and minds as you ask for them.

  • Anonymous

    Lol…offense? Hardly…merely arguing my point of view. That’s what people do here, they put forth an argument. 

  • Anonymous

    Our energy costs are 31% higher than the national average and we are last in business climate thanks to the policies of the Dems who have been in power for the last 35 years.  The Dems answer to those needing a job is shut up and have a big steaming pile of quality of place.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, no way they should have to cut into their cigarette money to get oxygen.  Have you no heart?

  • Anonymous

    Wonderfully stated. I would add to that cuts in benefits.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s another angle I’d like to see discussed in this forum:

    Why is it OK to single out childless adults? I get so tired of living in a country that incentivizes and subsidizes parenthood. Middle class parents are basically excused from paying taxes these days. I think it’s funny that the same people who would rail against welfare mothers piling up kids to increase their benefits are the first in line to take deductions for their own kids come April 15th. If you want to have children, that’s your prerogative; but don’t expect me to help you pay for it. Given the state of our planet, shouldn’t we be directing policy in the other direction?

    Discuss…

  • Guest

  • Anonymous

    That said I do have to say the BDN did pick a citizen to showcase whose ‘needs’ are open to the critique reflected in many of the comments. Not a lot of sympathy generated by this example. But was that the intention? Using examples like this will garner support for ending services but are there others whose situation does warrant assistance that will be sacrificed on the alter of economic austerity?

  • Anonymous

    You made that statistic up and presented it without a second thought, didn’t you?  If you did, the cavalier way you lie is disgusting.

    Let’s see a reference.  I dare you.

  • Anonymous

    We should be trying to figure out what is best for the people of Maine.  Your decision to slander liberals — rather than discuss solutions to the problem — is unhelpful.

  • Anonymous

    Although there is much that Gov. LePage deserves to be criticized for, calling him “hateful” is not helpful.  He’s facing a budget shortfall, and if his attempt to face that shortfall is misguided, let’s suggest a better solution.

  • Anonymous

    Canada’s far better according to research, and not your unreliable testimony:

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/44315.php

  • Anonymous

    Your argument is that healthcare is so full of errors in the US, people shouldn’t have healthcare in the US?

  • Anonymous

    So you think Canadian people are simply better human beings than your fellow Americans?

  • Anonymous

    How is that the fault of the Democrats?

  • Anonymous

    Without MaineCare, childless adults say they won’t survive… I thought it was the libs that believed in survival of the fittest.

  • Anonymous

    DRUG Test them all….ON DRUGS, SMOKE, DRINK ALCOHOL, CHEAT THE SYSTEM, NO MAINECARE forever! Half would quit just knowing they would be tested. Problem solved……

  • Anonymous

    If you mean Sweden, that is an excellent place to live.  So are the other countries on Forbes Magazine’s list of the happiest countries in the world:

    http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/19/norway-denmark-finland-business-washington-world-happiest-countries_print.html

  • Anonymous

    Are you criticizing Big Pharma corporations like Pfizer and Merck?

  • Anonymous

    You obviously do not have a clue about panic disorder

  • Anonymous

    50,000 Americans freeze to death each year?  And it’s because of something a political party did?
    50,000 is about the number of American troops who died in ten years in Vietnam, and way above the American death toll of many years of fighting Afghanistan and Iraq.  And yet it doesn’t get reported in the news anywhere.   Where is your source for this ridiculous “fact”?  Please tell.

  • Anonymous

    My cousins in England say their National Health is far from perfect — but they wouldn’t trade it for the American non-system.

  • Anonymous

    I am of the understanding that elderly childless people who have serious medical conditions WILL NOT be removed from Mainecare. I’m certain that Mainers who fall in the catagories of  needing the assistance will be the individuals who remain on the “truly needy” welfare rolls. Janet Bouchard is a perfect example of someone who really needs the help and Paul LePage has no intention of “kicking her off” Mainecare.  

  • Anonymous

    I’m finding this article confusing.  It says that “The noncategorical group consists of beneficiaries ages 21 to 64 with no dependents in the home and no disabilities.”
    And is also says “Bouchard is one of about 19,000 childless adults who are slated to lose
    MaineCare coverage under the proposal. Known as “noncategoricals,” they
    represent about a third of the 65,000 Mainers facing a full loss of
    benefits.”
    It seems to me that her C.O.P.D. (emphysema) would make her disabled.  How is it she has to be on oxygen, and that is not considered a disability?

  • Anonymous

    Slander is not helpful.

  • Anonymous

    It would seem to me that anyone with C.O.P.D. (emphysema) and on oxygen should be considered disabled.  How could the state say the woman is “noncategorical” and not disabled?

  • Ida Moses

    SSI=supplemental security income i.e., welfare for those deemed unable to support themselves due to inability to work;

     SSDI=social security disability i.e., income for people who have paid into the system via the social security tax on wages.

    The difference:  SSI is available to those who have never held a job (in the United States), to include senior citizen immigrants who came from other countries to join their families who themselves may be on welfare (remember, LePages rules applies to “childless” adults)

  • Dumbb All Over

    dumbber than ever …Cheesebag

  • Guest

    Maybe you should “check” yourself.

  • Anonymous

    What are you talking about? That is the most ridiculous statement I have read today.  The Republicans are the ones profiting from oil.   We have Joe Kennedy on our side giving away oil to needy Mainers.

  • Anonymous

    There is a budget shortfall. The state cant spend money it doesn’t have, same as me or anyone else. Programs have to be cut.

    I spend plenty of my earnings on insurance each year. I’m not crazy about paying for other people as well.

    As for someone on oxygen–those people usually do that to themselves, either through smoking or obesity. No sympathy from me.

  • Guest

    Got news for you “non profits” make a profit. That is why they are in business. This place you worked for was not a “not for profit”.

    You know all about that because you worked there.

  • Anonymous

    ……”We cannot afford to be a compassionate society”……..

    According to Webster:

    “COMPASSION”……. “consciousness of others’ distress together with a desire to alleviate it”

    When you give of your money and your labors to help another in distress that is indeed “compassion”.

    When you encourage government to “give to one in need” that is NOT compassion as for government to obtain the money to give to another, it first has to ”steal” that  money from it’s rightful owner, under the threat of a gun, imprisoment and siezure of property for failure to comply. (Read the back of your tax bills!) 

    The fact that the  money is first “taken by force from its rightful owner” makes the entire enterprise “ethically challenged” and any moral component to that act is lost by the act of government theft to begin with. 

  • Anonymous

    No,  Medicare is earned just like Social Security. You can’t get it if you haven’t worked for at least 10 years.

  • Anonymous

    No,  Medicare is earned just like Social Security. You can’t get it if you haven’t worked for at least 10 years.

  • Anonymous

    It says when happened to her in the article and it wasn’t smoking or obesity. 

  • Anonymous

    Are you going to fund the 65,000 drug tests? 

  • Anonymous

    I made no connection about the Democrats and speculators.I think you did that.

    Democrat / Liberal polices generally have kept us dependent on foreign oil. The latest is President Obamas policy on the pipeline.

  • pbmann

    The politicians did nothing to stop the booing so they either agreed with it or were to spineless to try to stop it.

  • pbmann

    Yeah, Republicans / Conservatives just invade countries for their oil

  • pbmann

    What studies do you think are worth anything then?

  • pbmann

    BAsicly any study you disagree with is not worth anything as evidence.  Typical conservative.

  • pbmann

    Ask any Canadians whether they would rather have our system of healthcare or keep theirs.  We both know the answer to that.

  • pbmann

    And people never die of a ruptured appendix in the US?

    I know a person who was vacationing in England and broke his leg.  He went to the nearest hospital and was treated for the injury and recovered fully.  His cost for this treatment?  Twenty five pounds or approximately $40. 

    What would it have cost him in an American hospital?  I’ll bet way more than in an English hospital.

  • pbmann

    So why did he not get treatment in the US then?  Could it be he did not have insurance or the immense amount of money required to be treated. 

  • Anonymous

    You do understand that many of these “studies” particularly that appear in the media have predetermined outcomes?

  • pbmann

    So you must be a doctor or someone else in the medical field because a private person is not bound by privacy issues so I’ll call you less then truthful.

  • Anonymous

    Pictures of George W. Bush with his sheik buddies, plus tight ties to the bin Laden family, including financial entaglements with banks that Osama bin Laden used.  Ouch!

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/losing-bush.html
     
    http://www.whale.to/b/rivers.html

    http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm

  • pbmann

    I have back issues at times and the best thing I can do to manage the pain is walk around.  When my back flares up I cannot sit or stand for very long but I can walk all day long.  How many jobs do not require either sitting in one place, standing in one place or lifting of some kind?

  • Anonymous

    No, the original commenter did and I responded with the question on how are high energy costs the Democrat’s fault. We consume 60% of the oil produced world wide and we are 4% of the global population. With India and China’s thirst for the old black gold exploding along with their economies, thanks to us, the stuff is going to go through the roof soon. We should be working a lot harder at getting our lips off of the oil jug than we are. If we think “free” trade destroyed our economy, wait to see what $10 a gallon gas does to it.

  • http://twitter.com/sectar114 THEAT

    If Janet was a smoker then all bets are off, she did it to herself……the COPD, need of oxyegen, etc. I don’t want to pay for it, sorry. We all can’t continue to pay for peoples healthcare that choose not to take accountability for their own well being.

  • Anonymous

    I have figured out from reading a lot of these stories about people who see all this fraud that most of the time they are right – but when they tell someone, they are seen as hateful by those who think the system is justified, no matter the abuse.  

  • Anonymous

    if you read it on the internet it must bee true  what a duuuum arse

  • Anonymous

    Well some people aren’t so lucky. Someone close to me who was injured doing their job, got Parkinson’s as a result. They sold EVERYTHING they had and since they owed on anything of value they didn’t come away with much and went without treatments for 2 years, but after the doctors said they were about to die, they got a couple of months of the S.S.I. they paid in for 30 years. Which tells me the government wants people to die, the ones who have paid and paid and paid their whole life, but not people who have contributed nothing to society. It’s either ALL adults or it’s discrimination. Before anyone jumps off the deep end, it might be you who could end up with an injury that prevents you from working so think hard and long before you allow LePage to discriminate.
    Also remember Forbes with proof says LePage lied, if he’ll lie about one thing, he’s lying about everything.

  • Anonymous

    Right, I know!  My brother-in-law – now deceased – was hospitialized – with heart condition & COPD, he was declared SSD disabled before he was released from the hospital in Belfast.  He waited 6 mos from the last day he had worked to his first SSD check.

  • Briney

    A top-heavy state office high level echelon would be a good start.  The only agencies targeted for cuts by this man are those which assist those of less fortunate means.  The accounting procedure for this agency was off in the preceding year and did not make provisions for the ensuing year.  First off, that needs to be rectified in an attempt to prevent its re-occurrence.

    We’re dealing with human lives here.  All most people want to see is a fair taxation policy.  We’re not out to stone the rich as Le Page is out to stone the unfortunate.

  • Briney

    Enough to make you sick – ain’t it?

  • Anonymous

    did the rules change? When my husband (with terminal cancer) went on SSDI after a year and three times he only had two wait two years from his original attempt/claim. Have they changed it to three years?

  • Briney

    Suggest you follow the exploits of the man you elected as governor.  I get scared when I pick up the morning paper and see his picture, especially when he threatens to cut off aid to 68,000 unfortunate Maine people.  I also get leery of the teapublicans in Washington who threaten to cut or kill Social Security and wipe out Medicare.  I can think of nothing more evil and hateful than fat cat republicans dusting crumbs of their linen tablecloths for the poor.

  • Anonymous

    My family you mean?

  • Anonymous

    Looks like your feeling a little CRABBY. & Hey I know why your handle is AA not Knowitall — that one was taken!

  • Anonymous

    We are changing to a more domestic oil policy. We need to accelerate that change.

  • Anonymous

    Maudlin

  • Briney

    Oh yes, I watched all of their debates.  I watched with hope that maybe one of them might show just a hint – a hint of humanity.  Unfortunately, all I heard amid the clapping and cheering was when Perry acknowledged he had executed more than 230 people, refusing to review an appeal of one man even his highest justices thought deserving.  Then Romney casually tossed out a $10,000 bet that Perry’s assertion about something in his new book was wrong.  Earlier, Cain wanted a canal between Mexico and America teeming with alligators and shielded by twenty-foot high razor wire.  Unhesitatingly, Bachman damned the president for pulling troops out of Iraq, feared for the safety of the country, and told her pal O’Reilly she had no qualms about seeing Mexican kids being put on buses and returned to Mexico in front of their mothers. Most were ready to bomb Iran the day they stood in the Oval Office.

    The only one who stood higher than the rest was the diminutive Dr. Ron Paul who stood firmly opposed to wanton wars.  And,  for that it’s doubtful the tea party which runs the country will permit him to be selected as the teapublican presidential candidate.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunantly those that know how to work the system, will continue to do so, no matter what new rules. Those that are barely hanging on, & really need the help, will be the ones to suffer.

  • Anonymous

    So when your argument weakens you resort to name calling and personal attacks. My how the mighty have fallen. It all comes back to that I.Q. thing again.

  • Anonymous

    Most studies that do not have a predetermined outcome or a financial incentive.

  • Anonymous

    Maudlin

  • Anonymous

    Born in 1955, I presume? My generation is happily waving your generation off the cliff as you take your bigotry and irrational “values” to your collective grave.

    Good riddance.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been behind people who have had $20 worth of junk food paying with the food stamp card. For that amount they could have bought a gallon of juice ($4), a bag of apples ($4), a bunch of bananas ($2), a bag of oranges ($4), a bag of carrots ($2) and a bag of potatoes ($4) which would last far longer and give the body more strength than soda, chips, little debbies snack cakes, pizza lunchables, candy bars, etc. Fresh fruits and vegetables aren’t that expensive and because they are packed with nutrients they make the body feel full far longer than chips and soda for the same price.

  • Briney

    Opposition to welfare and cuts for those needing medical attention who cannot afford it results on being a labeled a Liberal – which I am – and a Socialist – which I’m not- and, sometimes a commie – which is laughable. 

    I’m even hesitant in responding by indicting the tea party and its unilateral agenda as Brown Shirts.  I can’t brand them with what I’d like to because I’d be wiped off the board again.    But I agree, we are seeing a frightening rebirth of what took place in Germany across the country.  

    The rich are trying to kill worker’s rights to open and fair bargaining for wages and benefits. The corporations want to kill unions. In Washington and across the country attempts are being made to slash Social Security and other Medical assisted programs.   Meanwhile, a a healthy and well dressed corps of Congressmen and women block tax relief for workers and refuse to allow a reasonable extension of unemployment benefits for people who just cannot get a job.

    Top Washington politicians and State politicians naturally exclude even mentioning that they might be willing to slash some of the best benefits anyone could receive for making a career out of slashing those of the less fortunate.

  • Briney

    Okay, he’s a bully acting on orders of the Tea Party high command.

  • Briney

    That’s a poor argument.   They give you Krauthammer each week with his radical right wing eulogies. They also carry republican and teapublican columns. Krauthammer besides being a Washington Post columnist spreads his radicalism on Rupert Murdoch’s Faux News .

  • Anonymous

    Uh it’s the politicians period.

  • Briney

    When an oil company can brag about  $10 billion quarterly profits, you just sprung a leak in your boat.  When oil companies can buy politicians with million dollar pledges  and pocket million dollar bonuses, your argument sank.

  • Anonymous

    Seek and you shall find. And as always, the truth shall set you free. You just don’t want to find out for yourself. Go to the Discovery House and take and exit poll. I think you will poop your pants when you see where our tax dollars go. And that’s just one place.

  • Briney

    An American woman suffering breast cancer was unable to get treatment in the States, so she married a Canadian, was treated and is cured.  It was on the Tube one night.  

  • Briney

    I pay my bills, too.  So does my wife and our children.  So do a lot of fellow Americans.   And you know something?  We’re happy that we are able to so.  Happy that we don’t have to wait for some brain washed tea party ideological God to decide that the penniless should have to suffer just because we have ours.

  • HowdyNeighbor

    This article appears slanted and deceptive. Clearly Maine states they won’t cut off people who are disabled…yet the BDN features a picture of a granny on oxygen who is clearly disabled (unless she’s faking it). The BDN also profiles other types of individuals who are clearly disabled and who can’t work.

    To be fair, the BDN should have found an equal number of people who aren’t disabled yet who are mooching off the system…like my old Bangor neighbor who has been living on Maine Care and everything else she can get her hands on for over a decade yet she’s healthy enough to babysit, walk her grandkid to the bus stop each day, have parties, do drugs, have other drug users share her rental house, which the state is paying for, etc., etc.

    Profiling an equal number of people like that would have shown both sides of the story.

    Bad reporting, BDN.

  • Anonymous

    If  disabled, one would still qualify for Mainecare even if he or she is “childless” while waiting for a disability pension. Why? Because disabled persons are part of the noncategorical group of “childless” applicants.

    Don’t be fooled by what your read. The article’s contention that Ms. “Bouchard is one of about 19,000 childless adults who are slated to lose MaineCare coverage under the proposal” is just an opinion (by the reporter no less), not necessarily a fact. Consider what Adrienne Bennett, spokeswoman for the governor, said, “We’re talking about able-bodied, healthy people here”. It doesn’t sound like Ms. Bouchard is able-bodied and healthy, does it?

  • Briney

    I forgot to mention his hateful blast at the president, his hateful BS comment after having a “serious talk” with a citizen.  There’s a lot more.  He hates unions, service workers – firemen and policemen and nurses, who want to bargain for their wages.  There is little that has happened in the past year that hasn’t resulted in a hateful retort.  His hate for labor first surfaced when he removed the labor mural and hid it. On a daily basis he shows hate for those unable to pay their medical bills, hate for those who are attempting to preserve the environment, people who have different viewpoints, reporters who ask “the wrong questions.”  Want more?  I’ll put ‘em in a book.

  • Anonymous

    I know alot are gonna call me heartless but in picture number 2 there are two different kinds of cigarettes packages on the coffee table  I’m at least giving her the benefit of the doubt and assuming it must be his and the poodles

  • Briney

    They don’t have savings.

  • Briney

    You and your 30 backers do not have the slightest conception of what “Poor” means.  I’m happy for you and 30 backers who have savings and are able to pay their bills.  But in this society as in any other society – there are rich and poor, and some in-between. 

    The American Constitution advocates that we care for the welfare of fellow Americans.

  • Anonymous

    Read your comment and called some friends in Aberdeen – they think NHS is a complete failure and wish they had access to US healthcare. Perhaps your cousins are too closely related.

  • Anonymous

    America’s far better according to research and not your proletarian testimony. Could you do the rest of us a favor and move across the border.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for reminding us conservatives that only liberals are allowed to be mean spirited ,divisive , rude and hostile .I’m sure we will try to stay in line in the future .

  • mainefem

    Paul LePage is a murderer. It’s that simple.
     

  • Anonymous

    Hey penzance is this part of you folks being helpful,yeah I can see how this would make us all come together and sing combayaa .

  • Anonymous

    I knew you were old and cynical but I had no idea you were that old no wonder your meanspirited.

  • Anonymous

    There’s medication for logorrhea, you know – and studies prove that if you can keep from babbling, you’ll be cured. Difficult for a ring piece, but achievable if you really want to change. Maybe you and Alexa could form a support group with SpruceDweller and have it funded by world-class Canadian mental healthcare.

  • Anonymous

    I see you’ve already benefited from Canada’s excellent version of our Head Start program. A few years of Reading Recovery and you’ll be ready for the Nancy Drew series. Good for you!

  • Anonymous

    I know a person who was also vacationing in England. He was lucky enough not to break his leg but unfortunately, he contracted an STD. His cost for the treatment? Several hundred quid and he was asked not to return to the UK.

    What would it have cost him in the US? Who knows but I’ll bet way less than he was charged in Sunderland and without the threat of expulsion. Just saying.

  • OldWench

    Oh please…with how badly these people despise anyone who gets any kind of help if they ever saw any REAL fraud they would have reported it long ago and something would have been done about it.  These are nothing more than things people make up to justify their hatred and cold heart.

  • OldWench

    I’m sure there are people who get disability who have those things…but that’s NOT why they’re getting disability.  

  • Anonymous

    Nigeria would be better than America in the bureaucratic collective envisioned by SpruceDweller. His Marxist utopia is any country but America and he has an obsessive adoration of Canada and any Northern European country with a socialist government. I think he gargles whenever he uses “America” in a sentence.

  • Anonymous

    Oh please back at you. Many have seen the fraud who have neither hatred nor cold hearts. Even as oblivious as I am in the Shaws checkout line, I’ve seen conspicuous deception on many occasions. Why can’t folks like you admit that the system should be fixed? Should we all just keep giving with no expectation of accountability?

  • Anonymous

    Ok the tea party has obama and reid in their pocket come on if your going to post your thoughts at least find some semblance of reality involved.The executive branch and the senate are still controlled by extreme left leaning liberals to the point of  being outright socialists .What policies has the senate or the pres put forth that would suggest they are in line with the tea party ?

  • Anonymous

    What a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad ring piece you are. Your spelling, like your attitude, sucks.

  • Anonymous

    I believe this story has more to do with the common practice of people being denied ssdi who legitamately need it. If the BDN wanted to do a real story on the MaineCare issue how about writing a story and interviewing the many people who are sucking of the sytem for reasons of anxiety and the like. I’m sure we will not be reading anything of that nature in the near future.

  • Anonymous

    more of that help discourse huh penzance

  • Anonymous

    Did you notice the two packs of smokes on the coffee table. You being the statistion  what are the stats on peoples life expectancy who smoke around oxygen tanks.

  • Anonymous

    The majority of environmentalist are left  leaning liberal democrats who fight tooth and nail against any type of fossil fuel production . At this time we get 57% of all our oil from Canadian tar sands and shale oil, we have the same resources right here but the environmentalist lobbying groups fight tooth and nail to make sure we don’t exploit those vast resources that just so happen to be on federally owned land .So yes the democrats are the reason oil is so expensive .

  • Anonymous

    Ouch?Does Bush derangement syndrome physically hurt or was that referring to mental anguish .

  • Anonymous

    As you have proven on here multiple times any body willing to look hard enough can find stats to back up the most ridiculous statements.

  • Anonymous

    Anything that goes against their preconceived notions are ridiculous and rejected out of hand.

  • Anonymous

    about as stupid as your knee-jerk proharvard elitist snobbery makes you look.

  • Anonymous

    Typical left wing socialist pining on every word dropped from the lips of the elitist  harvardites .

  • Anonymous

    More honestly you mean lets take more away from those who have more than me .

  • Anonymous

    So how much more would you be willing to pay for this nirvana  of health care and not how much you think others should pay but how much more would you be willing to pay. 

  • Anonymous

    My generation is sadly looking back at yours and thinking ” if only we could have taught some of them not to be such fundaments”.

  • Guest

    TrueNative, I am sorry I made a mistake it is 2 years. Still too long when someone is sick.

  • Anonymous

    Hey BDN Reporter Jackie Farwell ! Here’s a novel idea. Do a Follow-up article about a year from now to find out if anything has changed. I for one would like to know how these folks responded to their difficulty and IF this news piece had any type of impact on their lives. I wish them all the best and like the old saying says…” When the going gets tough, the tough get going.” Merry Christmas from sunny Australia !! ;<) 

  • Anonymous

    Awwww mainefem…. Stop the Hate, ‘Tis the season to be jolly. Besides, if you don’t like it in Maine, nobody is Forcing you to stay!!! Peace on earth and good will to ALL MEN !!!  ;<) 

  • Anonymous

    This is great stuff.  You are really shining.

  • Anonymous

    The oil market was global the last time I checked. Very little a Democrat or Republican can do to move the price either way. Our best defense is to make the oil we do consume go as far as possible. The way the Indian and Chinese consumption is exploding, we could see $10 a gallon gas in the next 5 to 10 years.

  • Anonymous

    Mainemate: The problem with Mainecare is the very loose criteria to qualify for it. For instance, any pregnant woman without health insurance is/was automatically approved. Then the children in the home automatically qualify for Mainecare too. There are no rules that state your home can not be brand new or that your vehicles can not be over a certain value, or that you may only own one. There are no rules that state you can’t own recreational vehicles. There is very little criteria that would disqualify most of the Maine population. Even the income guidelines are loose,  and only the base salary is what gets counted. Annual bonus is not included if it is not in a regular paycheck. Just because you don’t agree that this family should have Mainecare because they have assets does not mean they are lying to get it. They probably qualify for it & are not breaking  any laws.

  • Anonymous

    “Without MaineCare, childless adults say they won’t survive”

    That might the be the conservatives’ plan to balance the budget. 
    If not, what is ? 

  • Anonymous

    Reinvest in the FUTURE of Maine ! Support welfare at your local convenience store,,,buy MAINE STATE LOTTERY tickets ! Better YET…………. Hollywood Slots,,,,,here we come.

  • Anonymous

    There is plenty of room in the graveyard for failed ideologies. Yours has failed every time it has been tried before. Nothing new from you authoritarian types. 

  • OldWench

    What is this “conspicuous deception” you are referring to?  Let me guess…someone used an EBT card to buy a food item you don’t think they should be able to buy?  I see people on here yelling “fraud” all the time and then when questioned they describe something that is clearly NOT fraud.  Then people make up these wild stories that are obviously lies.  I have had only one experience where I witnessed fraud…a guy approached me and asked me if I wanted to buy his foodstamps for half the amount in cash.  I told him that was fraud and told him he was wrong and should not be doing that.  I didn’t know the guy but I did call and report it, give a description and tell where he was when he approached me.  Other than that I haven’t seen any fraud at all.  Have I seen plenty of poor choices?  Sure, but not actual fraud beyond that one incident.

  • Guest

    Your the one needing mental health care or maybe your meds need to be adjusted.

  • Guest

    Please don’t feed that troll. He is plain Ugly.

  • Guest

    I would flunk the school that you went to, they failed.

  • Guest

    You are a miserable sob that drives a beat up escort. You argue with everyone. Get a life.

  • Guest

    The only one who stood higher than the rest was the diminutive Dr. Ron Paul who stood firmly opposed to wanton wars. And, for that it’s doubtful the tea party which runs the country will permit him to be selected as the teapublican presidential candidate.     
    *****************************************************
    Interesting, about 8 years ago, Rep. Dr. Ron Paul was the original face of the TEAParty—before it was co-opted by the ‘religious right’ (which is neither) and their neo-con lord-of-the-whiners, Glen Beck. 

  • Anonymous

    good I hope it does 

  • Guest

    And people never die of a ruptured appendix in the US?

    *************************************************
    sure they do—if they don’t get to an ER in time to get the surgery. ER treatment is also covered as charity care—they cannot deny you an operation to remove your ruptured appendix, spleen, etc. Cost for that treatment? ZERO.
    __________________________________
    I know a person who was vacationing in England and broke his leg. He went to the nearest hospital and was treated for the injury and recovered fully. His cost for this treatment? Twenty five pounds or approximately $40.

    What would it have cost him in an American hospital? I’ll bet way more than in an English hospital.
    *************************************************************
    and your friend had insurance that covered Emergency Room treatment abroad with a small co-pay. In an American hospital, it would cost him the same amount—whatever his co-pay is.

  • Anonymous

    Good eye. 

  • Guest

    Employee’s that work as convience store clerks, gas attendants, waitress’s, etc. can hardly pay rent let alone an extra expense. Get real.     
    ******************************************************
    AFLAC is $10. a week and you can have it deducted out of your paycheck.  You won’t even miss it…. oh, you might  have to cut out that extra expense called cigarettes, beer, Allen’s, lottery….

    … is that REAL enough for you?

  • Guest

    It would seem to me that anyone with C.O.P.D. (emphysema) and on oxygen should be considered disabled. How could the state say the woman is “noncategorical” and not disabled?     
    ****************************************************
    she has not been awarded SSI or SSDI (whatever she is applying for) as yet. Until then, she is not declared “disabled”.

  • Guest

    Once again a high % the Welfare recipients get to use their children as a tool and reap all the benefits as usual all the while working under the table, free presents for Christmas, free food boxes, free medical..eat their Lobster…wow..they might not work but their life is more significant in this state than those who have paid taxes their whole life and need a little bit of a hand up and all they get is a slap in the face.
    I understand alot of people need help but those that have been in the system since their kid was born and is now 18 and still collecting burns my butt.  Do you think after 18 years this married couple I know could get a dang job and stop depending on the people who now will surely die an earlier death because they aer not deemed “good enough” in this state?…..Answer..NO. Why? because they didnt know what a Condom is used for and had another 3 kids and the youngest being 9…do that will be what..another 9 years to go before they have to look for work?? How many others in this state have been doing the same thing all these years? It’s mind boggling to think about!!UGH!!!

  • Guest

    I pay $15 dollars a month for blue cross/blue shield, delta dental and davis eyeglass. That is because my husband worked for Chrysler. Things have changed, people don’t have jobs with benefits and can barely survive.

  • Guest

    Sorry that your mother and you and your family are suffering.

  • Guest

    It is nice of you to be so kind to such an unkind person.

  • Guest

    Taking care of yourself is important TrueNative. I received a telephone call today that a family friend is in intensive care with a heart attack. He is only 53 and not doing well.

  • Guest

    The only ring piece (rectum) is you. BDN needs to flag you permanently. You have crude names for quite a few on the comment pages.

  • Guest

    I think you and the knownothing are really good “Friends”.

    Friends with Benefits.

  • Guest

    I am sure you take care of “yourself” daily.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2NTDKUR3COU242UQD42E3F3ZU Rod

    Yes. I take drugs tests to work, so why wouldn’t you have to take one not to work. This lady will not respond, because she obviously does not work and does not realize working people sometimes have to take a drug test. Kick her out of here for being a loser.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2NTDKUR3COU242UQD42E3F3ZU Rod

    Hurting your back and shoulder does not cause COPD and acid reflux, smoking does. There is no point in responding to someone with as little intelligence as you. Obviously you are not smart enough to have a job and pay taxes. Enough said, besides you never respond to critiques of your inane comments anyways.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2NTDKUR3COU242UQD42E3F3ZU Rod

    Are you afraid you might have to take one?

  • Anonymous

    Ummm, this country is founded on no taxation without representation and the consent of the governed. Nothing is stolen from you. We have agreed to contribute to the general welfare. The government does what I cannot singlehandedly do. I have only my taxes to give and would like them used judiciously to help others. 

  • Anonymous

     This situation is extremely difficult & neither Democrats or Republicans seem to be able to resolve it. Simply handing over a check probably isn’t always the best answer.  However, it looks more & more like too many Mainers are dependent on the government & the taxpayers to take care of them.  Maine needs its citizens to be better educated and Maine needs JOBS. 

  • hasacluemaine

    Oh you mean GM, now Government Motors, we own (US taxpayers) 25% of the company we bailed out. They were bankrupt in part due to the greed of the unions. A very, very poor example unless you wish to demonstrate how unions have ruined many businesses.

  • Anonymous

    It shows your intelligence level to make an assumption like that.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Troop, I, too, have family in Canada.  And they do rave about their health care. I have talked to Canadians from PEI, from NS and from NB, when I happen to meet them in parking lots around Bangor.  I always ask them how they like their health care.  I have yet to have one person say, “Oh, my, but I really hate it.”  Even my ultra-conservative, 78-year-old, ultra-Canadian brother-in-law cannot understand why we Americans are so against national health insurance.  He watched all the debates on CNN when our lawmakers were arguing the pros and cons of the proposed health care plan. His question to me was, “What is wrong with you Americans?!!”  I have young nieces with little children who have never complained about the healthcare they are receiving.  Don’t listen to the hype of the politicians, who are sitting pretty with their health care packages which are being paid for by your and my tax dollars.  Let’s talk to the regular Canadian citizens as we meet them in our towns.

  • Guest

    My husband started working for Chrysler in 1970. He paid his dues and the company compensated with great benefits. You have a problem with people that have their own private insurance, a problem with people on Mainecare or Medicare. What insurance do you have that makes you so much better?

  • Anonymous

    He contracted an STD???  Should have kept his pants on.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know when the Canadian health care system as it is now came into being?  I lived in Canada for 8 years, and gave birth to two children there in 1958 and 1961, and, honestly, I had no complaints about the care I received nor the costs involved. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2NTDKUR3COU242UQD42E3F3ZU Rod

    Educated?!?!?!?!?! You got to be kidding.

  • Anonymous

    I for one am disappointed in many of my fellow Mainers for their reactions. Yes, it does sometimes take “years” of appeals to finally get Social Security Disability Income. Luckily a woman I know -who always worked, was in special education, has significant medical issues and lost her vision -had no choice but to be done with work. It took more than 2 1/2 years, several appeals and finally a federal judge to hear her case. Now if people would read more of the information about these cuts- they are for able bodied people who cannot afford private insurance. I do know of people who choose not to take health insurance through their jobs because they think they cannot afford it. Maybe so, but then that may mean – getting an additional job or going to college or trade school for more training and education. So WAitken, who is responsible for me taking the time to even remark on this article, read all the information, have a little bit of empathy and don’t be so judgmental. And YES, I voted LePage in as Governor and YES I am a very conservative Christian. With that being said, I will say a prayer for you before going to sleep tonight. Lets all understand all the information prior to making snap judgments.

  • Anonymous

    try:  http://www.lungusa.org

  • Anonymous

    Goodness me, I had no idea that’s what a ring piece was.  Is that some sort of urban slang?    

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2NTDKUR3COU242UQD42E3F3ZU Rod

    This may be odd, but the few people I know that work at the food pantries are people with jobs that volunteer in their spare time. I would think logic would say the people using them should be pushing their way to the front to offer their services. Sorry, I just happen to think on occasion. Hmmm.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2NTDKUR3COU242UQD42E3F3ZU Rod

    I am not waiting on any responses to my post, but you would think a person with a regular job would not be allowed to manage those places. You would think there would only be the people that are going there for the help that would be the ones contributing their time for the better good. I know they are not all working people, but I would think ones pride would not allow others working to man those positions, period.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2NTDKUR3COU242UQD42E3F3ZU Rod

    You certainly would not see Sprucey there.

  • Anonymous

    That should be “you’re” and not “your”. And how do you know my venerable Escort is “beat up”? I’ll thank you to keep your abusive automobile comments to yourself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    I see that the democrats convinced the BDN to remove your opening statement which was indeed offensive to them because it was the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Living with a smoker isn’t very smart if she has copd. Even if he smokes outside the smoke will be on his clothes and in his hair etc.

  • Anonymous

    I think that a person with health problems and no insurance has good reason to be scared.

  • Anonymous

    At the risk of sounding insensitive, many people get hurt, have mild sleep apnea, chronic pain, and all of the other ailments listed in this article and somehow, they can still work…give me a break!  I understand the use of Mainecare for a TEMPORARY bridge to help people get back on their feet….but somehow it turns into generations of families surviving off the state because they learn the ins and outs.  How many of them took advantage of trying to get educated ?? retrained?? The tools are there, and it should be manadatory for people being supported by the state to have to enroll in programs that would enable them to become self-suffcient!  Drug testing should be manadatory as well!

  • Anonymous

    “At this festive season of the year, Mr. Scrooge,”
    said the gentleman, taking up a pen, “it is more than
    usually desirable that we should make some slight
    provision for the Poor and Destitute, who suffer
    greatly at the present time.  Many thousands are in
    want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands
    are in want of common comforts, sir.”

    “Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.

    “Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down
    the pen again.

    “And the Union workhouses?”  demanded Scrooge. 
    “Are they still in operation?”

    “They are.  Still,” returned the gentleman, “I wish
    I could say they were not.”

    “The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour,
    then?”  said Scrooge.

    “Both very busy, sir.”

    “Oh!  I was afraid, from what you said at first,
    that something had occurred to stop them in their
    useful course,” said Scrooge.  “I’m very glad to
    hear it.”
     

  • Anonymous

    Notice the cigarettes & lighter on the table (blue pack/red lighter). Somehow cigs are afforded. This makes me sick! He smokes (maybe she does too) and they cry they need help from the state of Maine!!! Cut em off LePage….good job

  • Briney

    What in God’s name are “extreme left leaning liberals” and “outright socialists?”  

    It’s as though we never shower.  I am an American.  A Democrat who supports Barack Obama.  Or, one of those “left leaning liberals and an outfight socialist,” who believes in the Constitution of the Unites States of America and one who is proud to have served his country.

    At last breath,  I saw McConnell was reaffirming his hateful and bitter three-year stand against the president, threatening to block anything he pushes.  His only goal from the past three years has been to block any legislation that would benefit the “average” straight talking American.  In other words, those who work for a living. And, those who desperately attempting to find work, since they’ve either been laid off or had their job exported to China.   Whilst people wait and suffer, McConnell and Boehner have Congressional teapublicans in lock step to ensure that Obama does not get re-elected.   That’s McConnell’s only wish.  He couldn’t care less about the unemployed. anymore than Le Page cares about 68,000 who urgently need health care.

    That’s the reality of it.

    The republicans this week adamantly refuse to pass an extension of unemployment benefits to help the working folk get through their holidays and provide gifts for their children and put food on the table.  They also opposed and refused to pass the same bill that would have given working people a $1,000 tax break.  They would pass the bill – only if the Democrats agree to support the Keystone oil pipeline that threatens the environment of farming and ranch states.  And, only if the president supports unlimited tax breaks for corporations and millionaires.

    That’s the reality of the deal.   The unscrupulous unilateral tea party is ruining the country.

    Merry Christmas

  • Anonymous

    There is a serious problem here, and neither party has a workable answer. The left wing dream would be to have a Swedish style where everyone would have health care publicly funded. But the U.S. doesn’t have enough wealth to support that, and we have a sicker population.
    The right wing “solution” is to take away health care from poor people. And then what? Do they show up in emergency rooms across the state, transferring the cost of health care back to the public through a very expensive and ineffective back door? So then what? Cut off emergency room service to anyone who can’t pay? Then what? Homeless people dying in the street? 
    That might be an acceptable outcome for some. Others might remember some verses from the bible, it being so close to the day when we celebrate Christ’s birth:
    “Matthew 25:40
     And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.”
    “Matthew 7:1-2
    Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”

  • Anonymous

    Well put, you have spoken out courageously–have a great Xmas!

  • Anonymous

    And the governments of the 43 other states that don’t provide these benefits to noncategoricals are murderers too? Please…

  • Briney

    Right.    People change their minds and their way of  thinking.  But his opposition to war is welcome music  in the ears of a vet who has survived two wars both as a civilian and in uniform. Bachman and the others are too ready to scoot our troops off to Iran and do their dirty work for them, just because the Iranians have a Drone and we don’t know how they got it.  To Bachman, Romney, Gingrich and Perry this  means they also have  - remember the WMD threat -a nuke.  

    Hard charging Romney, and two gun Perry along with the embittered Bachman would be bombing Iran this Christmas.  Thank the Lord the election is not until next year.  We’ve already had three years of campaigning to unseat Obama.

    And, I forgot.   For as much as I was glad  Dr. Ron kept his pistols holstered, I would never vote for him.  He’s a republican.  I’m a democrat who believes the tea party is ruining this country.  Take a look at Michigan and Ohio.  The tea partiers are being met by infuriated working Americans attempting “to ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare…”

    We’ve been up the Kyber Pass before.  Time to move on.

  • Anonymous

    Noncategoricals do not include the disabled.

  • Anonymous

    Do you really think everyone in China has equal access to quality health care? At least you can get organs harvested from executed dissidents…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Your vision is 20/ 20

  • Anonymous

    I agree: it’s almost as if we let people define “disability” for themselves.

  • Briney

    Us left wing Democratic socialists  find it easy to dodge high oil prices by using logs and wood pellets to heat our caves.   Dragging an ungodly pipeline across rich farming and ranching acreage without some checks and balances doesn’t add up. Such a deal is usually accompanied by threats.   We either get permission NOW, or, we’ll let China have the oil.  
    McConnell: You either agree, or to hell with the unemployed and a $1,000 tax break for the working man and woman.  It’s either his way, or else.

    The republicans killed our best energy source when FDR was president and when he started to build the Quoddy Hydro Electric Project.   Thousands took the train to Eastport to dig dams, carve retaining pools in the rocks, and build houses for engineers and their families.   

    This Le Page is always knocking Mainers for our “bad” work habits and posting signs saying we’re open for business.   He deliberately falsified a Forbes Magazine assessment of Maine to suit his own hell and damnation politics. His republican party vigorously opposed Quoddy where Maine boasts the second highest tides in the world.

     Rance in France has been tapping the highest tides since 1968 with much success.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    That’s the reality of it.

  • Anonymous

    An “entitlement” means every qualifying citizen has access to it by law. SSDI is an entitlement.

  • Briney

    The president and the country needs to fully evaluate the effects this Keystone pipeline will have on ranching and farming land.   That’s important, too.  The republican blockade is typical of their three year stand: You either sign it, or, nuts to the unemployed and the working people.  First things first, without the ransom notes. 

  • Anonymous

    People in 43 other state aren’t dying in the streets. Our system is simply too generous…

  • Briney

    The teapublicans would have us far left leaning socialist Democrats feel guilty about high gas and oil prices.  

    How should we feel when the Keystone pipeline destroys thousands of acres of America’s richest ranching and farming land and the price of beef soars beyond the reach of our wallets?

    This is yet another case in which some of those smarties we elected to serve the people should remove their labels and put their heads together in some serious down to earth talk.  How can we build this  pipeline without destroying our future supplies of beef?

    It shouldn’t be a ransom note.

  • Briney

    As opposed to radical right wing tea party theorizing? 

  • Anonymous

    I still do not understand why having a kid somehow magically makes one person more eligible for Mainecare than a person who does not have a child.  Mainecare could cover a child while not covering the parent.  It is too bad that there is yet another freebie for simply breeding.  It is becoming an occupation to many, and that is a problem.

  • Briney

    Fifteen people -apparently Canadians -back up your statement.  Or, are they just anti-Obama Care opponents.

    There’s no mass migration from Canada to the States for medical care, anymore than there is from England, France and other countries where the government provides such services.  

    A British doctor told me after treating me that he liked the services National Health provided, even though he had a full surgery.  ” I’d just like to be able to make the take that an American doctor makes in one day and then I’d be especially  happy,”  he said.

  • Briney

    An “extremely sick” person would normally knock on the door of the Canadian ER., just like we do in the States.  

    You just don’t sit in a doctor’s waiting room with a heart attack, ruptured appendices, gall stones, and kidney stones – now do you?  And, certainly not within ten minutes of birthing.

    ER attendants, God bless ‘em, are quick to grab you and snap on an IV and give you a shot of morphine if you need it.   

  • Briney

    Did your 15 co-signers face similar problems with Canadian Health Care?  Or, is this just another ping at Obama Care?  

    We have Americans happily taking advantage of health care systems around the world.   Their source of treatment depends on the seriousness of their complaints.  Tourists with heart problems, kidney stones, gall bladder or bladder infections, usually check in at the hospital ERs where emergency treatment is done.    Hacking coughs, ingrowing toenails, and splinters in fingers are usually dispensed with at a local doctor’s surgery. 

  • Guest

    There are two Tea Parties in America. The original that formed in Boston to support Ron Paul in 2008 is still behind him 100%. The other Tea Party that is getting all the attention in the media was immediately hijacked by the Neo-Con WarMongers!

    Before the government got involved in medicine, health care was affordable and could be paid for out of pocket. I remember when doctors made house calls and charged $5.00 per visit. I was born legally deaf and had to have surgery to correct it. My two younger brothers (twins) both had hernias that required surgery. Our father was a blue collar working stiff and was still able to pay the medical bills. It wasn’t until the government started throwing easy money at doctors and hospitals that the cost of medical care went through the roof!

    “Easy Money” comes from a printing press and every dollar printed devalues the dollars in circulation. For example – A gallon of gasoline today ($3.30.9) is about half the cost of a gallon of gas in 1962 ($0.25.9. In 1962 I could take a paper dollar to a bank and exchange it for ten silver dimes, or four silver quarters, or two silver halves, or one silver dollar. A silver 1962 dime today is worth about $3.32. A gallon of gasoline at the Family Country Market in Frankfort is $3.30.9 today. So in reality the price of gasoline has come down but we don’t see it because the government has all but destroyed the dollar with inflation.

    When they print money backed by nothing but thin air to pay for social programs and wars it only further devalues the currency. It can’t go on forever without resulting in hyper-inflation! We are now very close to a Hyper-Inflationary Depression like the one that occured in the Weimar Republic in 1923. When the dollar starts snowballing towards Hyper-Inflation nothing short of returning to a commodity based monitary system will stop it.

    Ron Paul understands Austrian Economics and would return us to sane money and personal responsibility. The Republican and Democrat partys BOTH want to run the nation into the ground so they can get their New World Order! You say you’re a Democrat, so I assume you voted for “Hope and Change”. Have your hopes been granted and what change did you get with Obama? What we got is Bush II with a sun tan!

  • Guest

    For every dollar printed to pay for social programs and unending wars, the price of food, and everything else increases by a fraction. Perhaps you’ve been noticing the rising cost of food at the super markets these days. High prices are a direct result of inflation. Inflation is a direct result of printing money that isn’t backed up by something of value – like gold. As Issac Newton pointed out ‘For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.”

  • Briney

    You last statement said more than your 500-word preamble about you and the tea party.

  • Briney

    28 co signed this report.  Amazing.  All Canadians? No one can tell me they are Americans who failed to get help in Canada.  

  • Briney

    Mainers are historically noted for heating their homes with firewood, wood pellets, electricity, heat pumps and various other types of systems, and using oil as a standby.

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