65,000 MaineCare recipients to lose health coverage under LePage plan

Posted Dec. 06, 2011, at 4:45 p.m.
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Gov. Paul LePage
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Gov. Paul LePage

AUGUSTA, Maine — More than 65,000 low-income residents will lose health coverage through the state’s MaineCare program under a sweeping overhaul proposed Tuesday by the LePage administration.

Seeking to address a $120 million shortfall in the Department of Health and Human Services budget in the 2012 fiscal year, the governor took aim at MaineCare, the state’s version of the federal Medicaid program. His proposal called for tightening eligibility requirements, eliminating services and repealing coverage entirely for thousands of MaineCare recipients to bring Maine’s program closer to national averages.

“We have 361,000 people on Medicaid in the state of Maine,” LePage said at a State House press conference. “That is pushing 30 percent of our population. The national average is running at 20 percent.”

DHHS also is projected to face a $101 million gap in the next fiscal year.

Facing a loss of state coverage are childless adults, 19- and 20-year-olds and some parents. Dental, occupational and physical therapy, adult family care and other services are also at risk, as well as access to brand-name prescription drugs.

The administration’s broad strategy called for axing eligibility and services that exceed national benchmarks and easing Maine’s dependence on federal dollars. The federal government used to kick in roughly $3 for every $1 the state contributed to MaineCare, but now offers about $1.70.

The MaineCare overhaul is part of a supplemental budget proposal that lawmakers will evaluate when the Legislature convenes in January. MaineCare, including state and federal spending, represents a third of the total state budget.

Democrats vowed to fight the proposal, calling it “dangerous and shortsighted.”

“These proposals turn MaineCare on its head,” said Rep. Margaret Rotundo of Lewiston, the lead Democrat on the Appropriations Committee. “They will impact in a negative way every single family in the state of Maine.”

The plan slashes state subsidies for the Fund for a Healthy Maine, which allocates money from the 1998 tobacco settlement for smoking and substance abuse prevention programs, as well as health initiatives for the young, elderly and disabled. That rollback, paired with reduced contracts and administrative savings, represents $25.1 million in projected savings this fiscal year.

More money would be save by reducing behavioral health services for children, dropping payments to some hospitals and limiting mental illness crisis services.

“This is a very, very difficult day for all of us,” DHHS Commissioner Mary Mayhew said at the press conference. “There is nothing easy about the proposals we are putting before the Legislature.”

MaineCare enrollment has ballooned 80 percent over the last decade, far outpacing the state’s overall population growth, LePage said. He argued his plan makes tough choices to rein in skyrocketing enrollment and tackle the reality of dwindling federal reimbursements.

“We deliberately focused on the elderly and the disabled as populations we wanted to avoid harming to the extent that we could,” he said.

Childless adults will take the hardest hit, LePage said. That demographic, consisting of beneficiaries age 21 to 64 with no dependents in the home and no disabilities, has swelled from fewer than 3,000 in 2002 to nearly 19,000 today.

Democrats said Mainers across all populations will suffer and continued to fault the administration and DHHS for presenting unverified figures after months of discussions. Last month, the department surprised and angered some lawmakers by revising its initial shortfall estimate of $71 million up to $121 million, a $50 million difference.

“I don’t believe the administration has met their burden to demonstrate to us how we can have such significant changes and fluctuations in figures,” Senate Democratic leader Barry Hobbins said after the press conference.

The supplemental budget doesn’t address other factors that could dramatically alter the department’s financial outlook. Several audits of Medicaid-funded programs are under way, with a draft report expected in January, and Congress continues its maneuvering to slash the federal deficit. The proposal also did not address shortfalls in the general assistance program, which reimburses some costs to municipalities.

The Appropriations Committee plans to hold hearings on the supplemental budget Dec. 14 and 15. The next week, members of the Appropriations Committee and the Health and Human Services Committee will conduct work sessions on the budget bill.

The administration wants the MaineCare changes to take effect by April 1, 2012, putting pressure on lawmakers to act by the end of January.

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  • Anonymous

    And yet he and his Tea Party types are against a national health care plan…those 19 and 20 yo’s should find this a difficult time to get care in Maine, so I guess they’ll  need to move to a state more concerned with keeping its youth.

    We are the only nation in the western world without national health care, and it’s only because the vested people in finance and health care are raking in the gravy at 2-4X the average of the rest of the world. I wonder when that day of reckoning is coming?

  • Anonymous

    Democrats vowed to fight the proposal, calling the budget “dangerous and shortsighted.”
    Oh really. What you democrats have been doing for the past thirty years has been dangerous and shortsighted. We told you that over and over again. It’s finally come home to roost. You can blame yourselves for the mess we find ourselves in now.

  • Anonymous

    Socialism is bankrupting Europe and is an irresponsible path that burdens future generations with debt and poor economies. Stop it here now!
    Able bodied adults should not be on MaineCare.

  • Anonymous

    Cut the people who move here from other states for the welfare and medicaid benefits.If you weren’t born here in Maine,then no Medicaid.That would  save the state some money I bet.

  • Anonymous

    Oh this is going to be another highlight of the leadership in Augusta this year. Generate revenue for the State should be a priority along with cost cutting, but you cannot do just one !

  • Anonymous

    Yet the wealthy are on MaineTaxCare..

  • Anonymous

    My Hero!
    Cut! Cut! Cut!  Break this welfare entitlement mentality and get the able bodied out of this program. Bring pride back to this State. We are Mainers!

  • Anonymous

    Who is “we” ? I always  viewed Maine citizens as the people.

  • Anonymous

    what if those able bodied adults work a full-time job that offers no health insurance?

  • Anonymous

    Great news, cut till the dems leave!  They have ruined this state for years, time to pay the Reaper.   If you don’t like it, get out of our RED state!

  • Mark Williams

    they could just cut out overtime for services that are not really crucial… check out maineopengov dot org, there are people making almost as much in overtime, as they earn in their yearly salaries…outrageous

  • Mr_Spuddy

    Good.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it’s sooner than later.  This is insane.

  • Anonymous

    This should be no surprise when you consider that when he took over Mardens 75% of the workers had access to health care benefits and by the time he left only 25% did. 

  • Anonymous

    There is a waiting period.  It’s fairly long.  One cannot simply move to Maine and start getting assistance.  It is a myth that people are moving to Maine for welfare benefits.   Maine pays the least generous benefits in New England. 

  • waynorth1

    Yeah, until “we” were infiltrated with welfare-seeking abusers of the system from other states.

  • Anonymous

    Do what the Illegal do….go to the local hospital for free care. Ya need to change your sur-name though.

  • Anonymous

    Maine is a purple state.  Try to live harmoniously.  It’s better for your nerves.  

  • kcjonez

    Question?  Since this is a right wing compassionate conservative proposal and since these are the people who want(notice I didn’t say believe) life to begin at conception…….
    …….does this mean 21 year olds and up will be eligible for MaineCare the moment they conceive?   
    No good can come of that!  

  • Anonymous

    In case you haven’t noticed that wonderful Western World you are so enamored of is falling apart precisely because of the cradle to grave “benefits” entitled attitude of their citizens.

  • Anonymous

    We buy our own health insurance for about $13,000 a year and have a $10,000 deductible which we always seem to get very close to, but never break, thus we never get reimbursements. Meanwhile, we have no dental insurance and at the first sign of a toothache I wait it out hoping it goes away. It actually worked on one tooth until about five years later when it became the most painful thing I ever experienced. All the while we slave away trying to build our small business.

    But if one is able bodied and not working, it sounds like it’s one big free ride. How about taking a ride to North Dakota where they are looking to hire just about anyone due to the oil boom. That is the history of this country.

    You don’t put America back to work by extending unemployment. Think about that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXPTPFL746OV2VGR5WBOEUF6W4 Roger

    Good start but we have way to much welfare here in Maine. If we cut all welfare Ie any money the gov doles out to people that do not EARN it.  I say end the Maine care program along with every other program. If there where no more programs I bet people would get off the couch and find work of any type.

  • Anonymous

    If you could pay a partial amount of the cost of private insurance into taxes to fund a national healthcare service that gave better coverage, would you support it?

  • Anonymous

    This Governor seems to lack a heart.

    (oh and…..some of us speaking against these cuts will not be personally affected by it; inconceivable to some, many still find this outrageous. There are other ways to get the budget under control, but LePage won’t touch those.)

  • Anonymous

    Who is ” We” ? I always  viewed Maine citizens as the people.

  • OldWench

    I see a people’s veto in the near future.  

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, and that “free care” ends up costing a lot more than having people on MaineCare. This governor is so short-sighted.

  • Anonymous

    You said it…you are correct.

  • Anonymous

    Do you even live in Maine we’ve had government run healthcare for at least the 14 yrs I have been here? The fact that you pay so much for such poor health care in Maine is because of the greed of the State.

  • Anonymous

    This is not overhauling Medicare(Mainecare).  It’s declaring war on the poor.  This is cruel and stupid. It will not save money in the long run and will make people of our state less healthy, less able to find and stay in a job.  There were many other ways to cut expenses in the state. We could have started by NOT giving out tax cuts that mostly benefited the wealthy. 

    The amount of the tax cut equals the amount being cut from MaineCare.   This speaks volumes about LePages priorities. What it amounts to is the LePage is willing to yank health care, a basic need, away from the poor in order to give a tax break to people that didn’t need it and didn’t ask for it.

  • Anonymous

    Dealing with reality isn’t one of  your strong points, is it?

  • Anonymous

    According to the fraud in the White House those 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 yr olds should still be on mommy and daddy’s insurance!!! I can’t wait till Medicare is paying for my 25 yr old when my husband reaches legal age to qualify!!

  • Anonymous

    I did not know that.  Very interesting.

  • OldWench

    I don’t think the Republican legislators are stupid enough to support this.  They have to know how big of an impact 65,000 votes are.  Nothing will turn a Republican voter into a Democrat quicker than something like this.  I hope the conservatives are enjoying this time, because after the debacle that is LePage they will be lucky to ever be trusted with power again…AND this will lead to the sharpest turn to the left the state has ever seen once LePage is gone.  Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if he does get impeached once Democrats take control again next year.

  • Anonymous

    Good, I personally know 3 adult men  on Maine care who work   for tips or under the table completely. 2 of them make  about 34k a year, the other  about 28k. These are unmarried men  who  do not have children living with them.  They do  pay, or are obligated to, support on these children. Otherwise they live a normal unmarried Man’s life.There is NO EXCUSE  for these men to be on  a tax payer funded Health care plan. None. Ax this program, then move on to the next.

  • Anonymous

    Just to show you how ‘ BEHIND THE TIMES ” Maine is… Ohio took all non-children families off in 1992.  The same time they said you will be back to work when your current baby is 2. Or we will find a job for you and it won’t be pretty.  And if you are stupid enough to have ANOTHER KID while on State Suck Programs. You will NOT get one more cent of benefits cash or stamps for that kid. 

  • Anonymous

    Talk about shortsighted Len.   So now you want to push all these people onto “free care” at the local hospital?  Who do you think pays for all that “free care?”  YOU do!  Through higher health insurance premiums IF you have have health insurance Len, but I’m guessing you probably dont.  My guess is you want to rant about those pesky “Illegal” (spelling noted) with the funny surnames. 

  • Anonymous

    Look at Norway, Swedem. Denmark, Switzerland. They have a much better quality of life and are much healthier and educated than Americans. Let us compare apples to apples. Sure they pay higher taxes but, get much better benefits such as a college education for starters. How many home forclosures do they have compared to the USA? How many have to declare bankrupcy due to medical bills for cancer treatment or such?

  • Anonymous

    ‘o knowledge one…..where is the money to pay for these programs??  

  • Nichole Stevens

    Riddle me this: Why did he just give 600 of Maine’s wealthiest a tax break, to the tune of 100 million dollars off the books, by way of the estate tax?  Put the poor on the street and give the wealthy.  A little reverse Robin Hood action… 

  • Anonymous

    What about the able bodied adults that work a full-time job and pay for all or a portion of their health insurance? Should they be taxed to pay for the ones that do not elect to pay for their insurance. You realize that these able bodied adults could be working side by side at the same job. Worker # 1 sets health insurance as a priority and pays the premium and scales back on that 60″ flat screen TV and opts out of the trip to Disney. Worker # 2 takes the family to Disney and buys that TV but cannot afford the insurance premium because he or she did not make it a priority. Does it seem fair that worker # 1 should have to be taxed to help pay for worker # 2 to get Maine Care?

    Something has to be done to correct this runaway train before it crashes. I fear we are getting close and as drastic as LePage’s ideas are, it is a direction we have to be exploring.

  • Anonymous

    This is not a RED state, 61 % of Mainers did NOT vote for LePlaque !

  • Anonymous

    about to to make some cuts

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    That fact that you fail to see the systemic problem that creates this hardship for you and suggest going somewhere else to work IGNORING the systemic problem shows that you do not understand WHAT the problem is. You will continue in your servitude to forces you don’t understand by endorsing the system that puts you in that servitude… YOU should think about that…

    Unemployment benefits are TEMPORARY, to get people through rough patches. That is what CIVILIZED societies do. NOBODY thinks they are “putting America back to work.”

    When the rough patches become the norm because of people like you “stoically” taking it on the chin thinking there is always something more “I” can do – work a little harder, blame someone else like all those “free loaders”  – you will be the folks to share the blame.

  • Anonymous

    Oh Cheesecake.. so simpleminded.  The reason the Western World is falling apart is because you borrowed too much to buy your house, that 2nd and 3rd car, your snowmobile, your atv, and various other toys that you really couldnt afford.  NOT because of entitlements.  Go back and take economicss

  • Anonymous

    Presently….there’s NO waiting period.  But hopefully Lepage will fix that as well.

  • Anonymous

    And tell me Roger… What do you do for work?  Do you have health insurance?  Do you drive on the highway?  Do you children in school?  Better yet, do you have children?

  • Anonymous

    Gov. Lepage is not my favorite person, and I did not vote for him, but I agree with him on this one. We should not be in the business of taking care of young, healthy or childless people. They need to find work and provide for themselves. The freebees should end NOW. 

  • Anonymous

    Today Paul LePage declared war on Maine Citizens. The most recent proposal by this totally non caring and out of control egotistical boor will negatively impact the lives of practically every single Mainer in some manner, shape or form. Do you really trust this man who has lied to us over and over and over again when he says it will only impact 65,000 of our citizens? He claims that there is a $120 million shortfall in the DHHS budget, but yet he nor his supposed “expert” Ms Mayhew can tell us just where the shortfall is occurring. Doesn’t it seem strange to anyone that just a couple of weeks ago the shortfall was in the $70 million range and then practically over night it almost doubled. Remember LePage pledged to bring only the “best and brightest” to state government. Is it asking to much for the “best and brightest” to at least inform the Citizens of Maine exactly where the shortfall is happening? It wasn’t that long ago that members of Mr. LePage’s party were sounding the false alarm of “voter fraud”. Yet when it came time to show that “voter fraud” was or had occurred in Maine the evidence turned up only a single case over an 8 year period. Maine voters wisely saw through that republican farce and voted down a change to the law by almost landslide numbers. This isn’t LePage’s first attempt to take an ax to Mainecare. He tried in the last session of the Legislature and even with republicans holding majorities in both houses was unable to cram his  legislation through. Wouldn’t it make sense for the LePage administration to furnish some type of verifiable numbers to show where this terrible shortfall is occurring before we allow them to take healthcare benefits away from our fellow citizens. Now I know we are going to hear the radical right’s normal rants and raves that everyone in Maine is lazy and is just laying around living the life of Riley on public assistance. They are the first to decry “class warfare” and also the first to practice it.   I assure you Maine is not known now or has it ever been known as “Club Med” for the poor. One of the reasons we have such a high percentage of our citizens on Mainecare is the fact that we have the oldest population in the Country. Low income social security recipients rely on Mainecare as well as those under 65. Mr. LePage will not be yelling that fact from his bully pulpit I am sure. Show us the proof Mr. LePage of where these supposed shortfalls are occurring. If you can’t we will just have to take it for more of what it is. More of the same old lies from Governor “Bullshit”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EBGSNRYAW7SCCYO5MWW7QYZMZ4 ramon

    actually the western world  it is falling apart because of corporate greed, corrupt politicians and a and even more corrupt banking system  

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Nothing to be proud of in such a foolish, unsubstantiated attitude. Embarrassing, actually. You must be from away.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    No it’s not. Educate yourself before talking about things you claim to understand. At the very least provide something that substantiates your silly comparisons. Socialist countries in Europe or near by, Sweden, Denmark, are doing remarkably well… Spreading falsehoods about things you don’t have a clue about is no way to prove a point.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, how foolish that we should cut benefits for the elderly and children so that able bodied adults can get MaineCare. How sad you leftists are really. You would take from those in need to give to those who are simply not ever planning to work or get out of a welfare mentality.

  • weezy

    If our Governor would work on making jobs with insurance for the jobless, there would be no need for Mainecare.  First things first.  Ours is government by the people for the people. 

  • Anonymous

    Each one of those states you mention, aside from the oil rich Norway is cutting benefits. They were unsustainable and always were. Once you run out of taxpayers due to demography you can’t support socialism. Demography is destiny.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    According to the 2010 census 100 million Americans are poor or near poor. One in three Americans. 28% of them work full time jobs. 25% don’t have health care coverage. Children make up about 39% of the poor or near poor. 22% of the elderly are poor or near poor.

    LePage and the rest of the republican wingnuts pushing for these cuts are on a path to increase these numbers…

  • Anonymous

    Socialized health care is not what has bankrupted Europe and the UK.  What has put them in the same financial difficulties that the US finds itself in is the same  corrupt banking and finance fandango.  It has nothing to do socialized services, with the exception of Greece.  And even Greece’s problems were largely created by corrupt banking and finance.  

  • Anonymous

    Wrong, The debt load by governments is called “sovereign debt”. It is massive and the problem that governments are having paying for all the benefits they promised. It is YOU who need to take the economics class bub.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Public_debt_percent_gdp_world_map_(2010).svg

  • weezy

    How did you think the meth clinics will operate here to serve the masses if there is no Mainecare ?   Someone made the decision that we needed meth clinics, for the federal dollars they bring in.  I guess those jobs will be gone too,  if Mainecare no longer exists for our addict population.

  • Anonymous

    WRONG. 32 Dem 29 Repub and 39 unaffiliated.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t necessarily agree with the decision, but for those who cry foul, do you have a solution other than raising taxes? We all have to make ends meet: the State can’t pay for everyone. Clearly we’ve been generous in our eligibility. Maybe move to a sliding scale? Able bodied, childless adults pay for some?

     

  • Anonymous

    Social services are not the cause of Europe’s financial problems.  Their corrupt  banking industry ran their economy into ground just like it did here.   

  • Anonymous

    Ensuring that there are benefits for the truly needy (elderly and children) means that the limited resources of the state and federal government need to be allocated wisely. Would you rather see cuts for these people so able bodied adults of working age can get their goodies? Your view seems  like the one lacking heart.

  • Anonymous

    Let me rephrase: If money that went to private health insurance was put back into a workers paycheck in exchange for much less deducted through taxes and everyone was covered regardless of income, would that not be a great trade off and serve everyone better? People would not only save money on healthcare, but they would get better coverage and service. This is not really what was proposed in the USA but this is the ideal healthcare situation that every other first world country has going. Take the for profit healthcare business model and make it serve people rather than use them.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, but you speak of facts and reason.

  • weezy

    Finding minimum wage jobs is not the problem, but  finding a job with insurance is nearly impossible.  Our governor needs to work on the real issue of bringing jobs into this state.  It was not that long ago that we had many shoe factories, steel mills, woolen and textile mills, paper and pulp mills, hundreds of great paying jobs at BMHI, (which would house our mentally ill, rather than incarcerating them which is counter-productive.)  Bring back our economy.  Make our state desirable to work, and live in, as we are losing our younger generation to those states who are truly putting their citizens and their economy first.

  • Anonymous

    The Maine Care system is very flawed and I wish more of it was brought to light to make more people aware.

    Example:
    I have a small business (less than 10 employees) and provide 80% of the cost of the insurance premium to all of my employees (it was 100% up until 2 years ago) and I also contribute to a medical savings account. The employee must pay 20% of their premium + if they want to add their spouse or kids. I have 2 employees that opt out of the insurance and their kids are on Maine Care because it is free. Maine uses the 200% poverty threshold so it becomes the better option instead of paying for their own share.

    Why would they want to pay in to a system when option # 2 is free and has better coverage.

    Great system we have here. Let’s hear more examples from everyone……

  • Anonymous

    I would say just the opposite. I’ll bet he/she is not “from away” at all. I completely disagree with you.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the Fox News phenomenon…

  • Anonymous

    I have a hard time envisioning a cheesecake world where everybody is able bodied, everybody has an IQ above average and everybody  sits around the house watching TV and swilling beer.  It’s a world where only  cheesecake works and s/he is the sole  supporter of  all of these unsavory slobs.  It seems like a very strange and unlikely world.   

  • Anonymous

    I know doesn’t what LePage is doing make you sick? I know it does me.

  • Anonymous

    The 65,000 votes did not vote for him in the first place.  Actually, many DEMS agree with LePage on this issue and I suspect the reverse will be true.  These 65,000 people should thank Baldacci for leaving the State of Maine in such a financial mess.

  • Anonymous

    Finally a Governor who gets it!  Way to go Governor LePage! 

  • Anonymous

    No, it was Baldacci who declared war on Maine citizens by encouraging so many to become dependent on an unsustainable system.  A system that spent money that the state did not have.  A system of lies that kept so many people into a government dependent bondage.  One that was UNSUSTAINABLE because Mainers can no longer afford it!!!  Baldacci left the good State of Maine FLAT BROKE, so blame him.  LePage is doing what he can to bring fiscal solvency back into the equation.  This is needed if we are to continue making Maine an attractive place to do business, which will brings jobs that we so desperately need and want. 

  • Anonymous

    GOV ALWAYS HAS A SMIRK ON HIS FACE I KNOW I SHOULDNT FEEL THIS WAY BUT I JUST CANT STAND THE MAN, HE THINKS HES HIGHER AND ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE, I WILL NOT LOOK AT HIS PICTURES IN THE PAPER OR ON TV I NEED TO KEEP MY FOOD I AM NOT OUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT WORK BUT AM FOR THE ONES THAT CAN’T FIND A JOB AND PAY HIGH HEALTH CARE, I CAN’T SEE A THING GOOD THIS GUY HAS DONE, JUST MAYBE HE WILL LEAVE THE ELDEFLY ALONE  SINCE HES LOOKING PRETTY ELDERLY HIMSELF

  • Anonymous

    Too many times I see Mainecare recipients head to the ER or Walk-in care for simple issues like a cold.  Maybe if they had to pay $100 co-pay (like the majority of us with insurance do) they would think twice about it and the Mainecare system would spend less on senseless medical expenses.  Who goes to the ER for a cold anyway?  You wait it out and if you truly do not feel better you go to your family doc.  The ER is for emergencies…not common illness.  
    I’m tired of hearing about and seeing people abusing the system.  This includes medical providers.    

  • Guest

    So when ObamaCare takes effect can I stop paying for Medicaid recipients all together?  And actually be able to afford my very own insurance?

  • Anonymous

    It would seem more productive if we explored a plan that would save tax money and cover everyone as a universal, single payer system would do, in stead of trying to figure out to whom we deny access to health services.  Every other civilized nation has universal health coverage.  Are we not a civilized nation?

  • Anonymous

    Nationally there are an average 5 applicants for every job available. Maybe where you went to school that means every one gets a job, but in my figuring 80% still do not get work. I realize the hope of the tea party is that they all get sick and die quick, but in reality something will have to be there for those unable to find work or pay for insurance.

  • Anonymous

    I have recently taken in two young children they come from a horribly abusive situation .Me and my wife do not receive any help from the state to raise them though we have tried to get some help none is available .On any given day  i spend a certain amount  of time with or around folks that are homeless in shelters or living as wards of the state and i know first hand the amount of abuse or fraud that goes on . I know that sometimes i come across as heartless but i am not i just see it every day,  those that are abusing the system are  the heartless ones ,taking away from those that truly need it .Those who abuse the system are the ones people should be upset by not those who are trying to keep some kind of safety net in place.If there is anybody out there that can honestly tell me they dont know anybody thats scammin the system id say your not paying very close attention.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the 65,000 people he’s kicking off are WORKING, but they work at Low Paying Jobs that don’t offer any Health Care Insurance!!! What we need is much cheaper Insurance that people can afford  and more good Union Jobs!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    What an incredibly biased leftist title to the news story.  Another way of titling the article would be “Maine to fall in line with rest of national average in health coverage and see huge savings”.  BDN – what a joke!

  • StillRelaxin

    Of course that’s what all these uninsured people will do and the hospital will give them care because it’s the ethical thing to do. So who ends up paying for it anyways? Yep, those of us who either pay for our insurance or receive it “in some” measure via our employer. So what does LePage’s proposal really do? NOTHING! He’s just playing the best political game he can to make his few supporters feel good about the fact that they don’t care and don’t want to care for anyone other than themselves. Shortsighted is an understatement. Even people of low intelligence will view this as an insult to their intelligence!

  • Anonymous

    A persons health is more than access to health care. It consists of smoking, exercise, eating habits, obesity, etc…

    The United States as a whole would have to undergo a complete and radical shift away from its current smoking rates, eating habits, infrequent exercise habits, high obesity rates, etc…to approach the countries you mention.

    According to the WHO the Estimated Overweight & Obesity(BMI ≥ 25 kg/m²) Prevalence, Males, Aged 15+, 2010 in the countries you mention and the U.S. are:

    Norway 57.2%
    Sweden 57%
    Denmark 55%
    Switzerland 56.5%
    United States 80.5%

    Source – https://apps.who.int/infobase/Comparisons.aspx?l=&NodeVal=WGIE_BMI_5_cd.0704&DO=1&DDLReg=ALL&DDLSex=1&DDLAgeGrp=15-100&DDLYear=2010&DDLMethod=INTMDCTM&DDLCateNum=6&TxtBxCtmNum=20,35,50,65,80&CBLC1=ON&CBLC3=ON&CBLC4=ON&CBLC6=ON&CBLC8=ON&CBLC10=ON&DDLMapsize=800×480&DDLMapLabels=none&DDLTmpRangBK=0&DDLTmpColor=-3342388

  • Anonymous

    The politics of Maine are making us like Pontius Pilatus, as we collective wash our hands of taking care of those in need…………………

  • Anonymous

    Chin ,India, Vietnam and all the other countrys who we can’t possiably compete with due to there sweat shop low wages . All compliments of Wall Street. big business then on to the corrupt politicians who have deilberately destroyed America and traded the prosparity  of Americas citizens for their own personal and corporate greed agendas.

  • Anonymous

    Go to the hope house and ask the first ten people you come upon  where they are from and ill guarantee at least 5 will be from out of state probably more and the first thing the staff there does is sign them up 4 mainecare so that they can see the in house md .the second thing they do is get them signed up for foodstamps .I am not being hateful just truthful.

  • Anonymous

    Due to the LePage-sponsored cuts to state income tax and the estate tax, Maine has $200 million less to spend over this 2 year budget cycle than it would otherwise have had.  (The wealthy are the only ones to benefit in a significant way from these tax cuts, but that is a different story). 

    Those cuts were reckless and irresponsible — and now we are finding out why.  These present hard choices are not something that just happened to us.  These hard choices were manufactured by this administration.

    It’s not about raising taxes.   It’s about tax cuts for the wealthy that should have never happened in in the first place.  At that time, we were told that the “job creators” needed tax breaks so they could create jobs.  Now we’re told that there are actually plenty of jobs  (so apparently the tax breaks were not needed) and that Maine workers are lazy and unskilled and therefore probably deserve whatever misery life might hand them.

  • Anonymous

    The cheaper insurance is coming because  Maine will soon have open insurance competition, just like NH.  I hear the NH insurance rates are significantly cheaper than what we pay in Maine.  Competition does two things.  It drives down the cost and it provides a better product.  We can thank Gov. LePage and the Republican legislature for this accomplishment.  Baldacci preferred we pay higher premiums.  Shame on Baldacci!

    I wouldn’t wait too long for the union jobs.  Bill Clinton NAFTA’d them and they’re not coming back.  The best thing is to get a good education and develop your skill sets and you will not feel you need a union to survive in our new global economy.

  • OldWench

    You’re wrong there.  I’ve met A LOT of people who voted for LePage and already regretted it before this.  There are a lot of working poor in this state with health problems.  There are a lot of elderly Mainers who rely on Mainecare in order to be able to get medication.  All those conservative older folks or who have elderly parents living on a fixed income are going to change their tune about this move by LePage once it hits them personally and they have to buy their mother’s insulin so she doesn’t go into a diabetic coma.

  • Anonymous

    LePage’s legacy, in his first year, has been two cruel blows:  (a) destroying premium caps on health insurance for the elderly, the rural and the sick, (b) throwing people who are already suffering into greater suffering by refusing government aid.

    This isn’t the way to run a great and decent country.  It is the way to run an Empire sinking from an infection of greed, one that that has made the rich supreme and turned selfish people against their fellow citizens  in fits of myopic hate.

  • Anonymous

    I”ve had quite a few addicts who have worked 4 me over the years and afix at the clinic is only 9$any junkie worth his salt can come up with the money to get high and they do get high of the meth dont be fooled for a sec

  • Anonymous

    Great point about the safety net.  We do need a safety net and under LePage’s proposal we have nothing to worry about.  Those truly in need will be covered.  The scam artists will not be.  It’s that simple.

  • Anonymous

    65,000 votes against LePage and the rest of the republicans. Yahoo.

  • Anonymous

    Maine Revised StatutesTitle 22: HEALTH AND WELFARESubtitle 3: INCOME SUPPLEMENTATION HEADING: PL 1973, C. 790, §1 (AMD)Part 1: ADMINISTRATIONChapter 855: AID TO NEEDY PERSONS HEADING: PL 1973, C. 790, §2 (NEW)§3173. Powers and duties of departmentAll applications for aid under this chapter shall be acted upon and a decision made as soon as possible, but in no case shall the department fail to notify the applicant of its decision within 45 days after receipt of his application. 

  • Anonymous

    Apples to Apples?? Lets try Sweden. Ok Homogeneous society?? They win. They all speak the same language. Same religion. Far more Swedes as a percentage of the population attend church. Higher percentage of Swedes marry and have fewer divorces.  Economy? They stick to far more free market principals than we do. We have a heavily regulated economy. They win hands down. A higher percentage of incomes stay with business and individuals. they have a higher tax rate but have fewer taxing authorities..

  • Anonymous

    I suppose you have reported them & their employers to Mainecare, DOL,  MRS, IRS etc

  • Anonymous

    Nice smoke screen heading north. You want all the poor people and middle class to pay so you can keep all your non-taxable money. What a creep. I hope you need it someday.

  • Anonymous

    The wealthy who use all the loopholes and pay little to no taxes need to cough up. You are LePages special interest group.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps they should blame Baldacci for leaving the State of Maine in such a fiscal mess.  This problem did not start at LePage’s inauguration.  This problem started on the heels of Baldacci’s ineptness and his inability to manage state finances, along with creating an unsustainable dependency on government.  As a taxpayer, I have nothing more to give and I speak for many.  Unfortunately, my well is dry.  To think that we can continue spending money we do not have is to not think of the children.  How can we ethically burden our children by shackling them with debt.  If we do nothing now, our children can kiss the American dream goodbye.  As JFK once said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”  Unfortunately, we have steered away from JFK’s philosophy and our state and country are now in financial ruin. 

  • Anonymous

    Do I take that to mean you have lived there? Or are you just parroting what someone else told you? Not trying to be disrespectful just trying to find out where you get your expertise from.

  • Anonymous

    I expect you are right about the homeless.  However the small number of migrating homeless are not the majority of Maine’s welfare recipients.   

  • Anonymous

    so whats your solution really lets pretend your the guv and there is no money left to go around to all these entitlement programs where would u cut education , ebt{food stamps},section 8 housing , homeless shelters.

  • Anonymous

    Wow you hit all the buzz words didn’t you.  Do you happen to own or run a business? I only ask because you seem to know what it takes to attract a business to the State. Also I have one more question. If we were as you put it ”FLAT BROKE” how is it we could afford to give 600 of our wealthiest residents a tax cut of approximately $106 million?

  • Anonymous

    whats a fair amount 4 the government to take in your opinion i mean what percentage should the wealthy be allowed to keep

  • Anonymous

    What the heck. This State is in dire financial trouble. Of course he has to do this! It should have been done long ago. To the complainers-  where would you like to see this money come from?  You want this State ” fixed”  but aren’t willing to give up anything to see it done.
    And yes- there IS a ton of welfare fraud in this State. Anyone saying there isn’t has blinders on.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but Lepage and the Republicans just picked up 100,000 votes on this one.

  • Guest

    “They will impact in a negative way every single family in the state of Maine.”  Oh, really??  Not my family!  Go Governor LePage!!!  Stick it to the deadbeats!

  • OldWench

    Nope…I’ll blame LePage since he’s the one giving new tax breaks to rich people that don’t need them, ironically, amount to very close to the amount of money it would take to NOT make these cuts.  Go figure.  I hope none of your older relatives without young children have a heart condition, diabetes, cancer or any other illness where they can die if they don’t get medical care.  Welcome to Maine, the home of the LePage Death Squads.

  • Anonymous

    what other options should he take  and if its raising taxes on the wealthy what % should they be allowed to keep of the money they have worked 4.

  • Anonymous

    Huh…

  • Anonymous

     Exactly mainemajority!

  • Anonymous

    in your opinion what should the guv do to address the issues you’ve listed.

  • Anonymous

    stop the foolishness. The top 1% pay 40% of the tax bill in this country. (I am not one of them…..)
    The bottom 47% pay no taxes…..blaming rich folks is just plain dopey.

  • chris reid

    Penguin…It”s time to stop running your mouth and show your cards….Before you go on your every 3 month  TWO WEEK vacation.

  • OldWench

    First thing I would do would be to un-create the job I made just for my own kid.  I would NOT give a 109 million dollar tax cut to people who don’t need it at the expense of someone’s grandma’s insulin, heart medication or chemotherapy.  I’d stop wasting money on witch hunts for voter fraud.  I would never have set myself up for all the lawsuits by thinking I was suddenly Kind sheeit on a silver platter when I really was nothing more than cold diarrhea on a paper plate.

    This doesn’t effect me personally, but it WILL affect people I know.  I wonder how many elderly Mainers in nursing homes are going to be kicked out and sent to live with a family member over this.  

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it’s time to require that Maine employers provide health insurance to their workers who actually make the money the employer has anyhow,the employer would j ust have less of it to spend on their second home on a lake,the Hummer and the Caddy in their gargae,the snowmobiles,the four wheelers,the time share in Palm Beach,ect ect.

  • Anonymous

    30% is high, who is paying for it?????

  • Anonymous

    Lynne, it’s the Governor’s job to propose a workable budget– not to provide healthcare for capable adults. You know what’s really heartless? Spending non-existent money and leaving the debt to future generations. Believe it or not, communities used to survive through acts of charity. Nowadays, people would rather have the Government take care of it.

  • Anonymous

    In the pockets of the wealthy gathering dust.

  • Anonymous

    Lay off the Faux “News”  Kool  Aid.

  • OldWench

    Of course he hasn’t because he’s just making it up.  I love how people come on here and rant about people when they have no way of knowing the facts.  Even if someone makes tips it doesn’t mean they don’t report them and pay child support on them.  When they figure income they look at that money.  Those guys could be paying $200 a week or more in child support, which would be subtracted from their usable income.

  • Anonymous

    if i have worked my whole life and payed my taxes on every thing ive made and i want to leave whats left to my kids what % should the government be allowed to take and remember ive already paid the taxes on it.

  • Anonymous

    We’ve had chances to vote in a simple single payer universal health insurance system for everyone like Medicare which works efficiently, gives choice, keeps costs down, is less costly than multiple private insurers.   We could have avoided this constant fighting  to ration health care.  We could have saved ourselves a lot of money.  We could have had Medicare for everyone.

    We chose to listen to the false ads of the insurance companies who make obscene amounts of money  from our stupidity and their greed.  Is this a sensible way to keep the population healthy?

  • Anonymous

    Look into Dirigo, my company just started offering last year and one of my coworkers kept his Dirigo because it was a little cheaper than the company plan, which is pretty darn good.  Plus our company didn’t have to match because they pay for 50%.  It worked out well.  AND GET THIS LEPAGE IS SUPPORTING DIRIGO!  People need to leave this guy alone and he will get ‘er done!

  • Anonymous

    Ok so what happens to those who do try to work and can’t afford the health care coverage that is offered through there job hmm? I work for the state part-time and I make just enough money to pay my bills and in order for me to get health care coverage through the state I would need to pay $200 every two weeks.. Lets see I make $340 every two weeks that would leave me with $140 every two weeks to live off of if I got the health insurance and I have applied to many different places for another part-time job and guess what there are no jobs out there even McDonald’s turned me down.. I do have MaineCare and if I didn’t have it I would probably be in a grave by now because I do have health issues.. so what happens to those who actually deserve the MaineCare when they make these cuts? There are individuals out there that don’t deserve it, the ones who can work and choose not to because they don’t want to lose their benefits.. its those people who they should question and cut.. not the ones who try..

  • Anonymous

    Socialized medical insurance is not bankrupting Europe or the UK.  That is a myth the insurance companies want you to believe. 

  • Anonymous

    I guess you didn’t read the article. The story says childless adults will be affected. Not children. The old and disabled are safe from these cuts also. Now get off your butt and get a job you bum.

  • Anonymous

    “We deliberately focused on the elderly and the disabled as populations we wanted to avoid harming to the extent that we could,” he said.” Are children on the table now too? I’m also wondering about the cutting of physical therapy…..just cheaper to give them a wheel chair huh? These are sad times 8(

  • Anonymous

    Wrong! Over 99% of those are too lazy to vote.

  • Anonymous

    so those of us that are working to grow a business and support a family are the problem 

  • Anonymous

    Maine’s designation of poverty is higher than the national “norm” and therefor benefits are paid to a greater percentage of our population.  He is only trying to bring the benefit to the national standard.  Is that so bad?

  • Anonymous

    so we should give more money to the crooks in washington[dem and repubs ]because they do such a stand up job?

  • Anonymous

    Agreed: a tax cut like that makes no sense and does nothing for the economy. But health care costs keep going up, so the bill will keep getting bigger. At some point we have to make hard decisions about who gets benefits, and perhaps as a new approach, how MUCH. I suggest the poorest of the poor get full coverage, while those who are close to the edge in eligibility be required to contribute something (for example, the childless adults). I think LePage’s broadsword approach is dumb (which is fitting), but the notion that we should look at ways to trim is just reality.

  • Anonymous

    Desolation and pain to thousands of the most vulnerable is the price we have to pay to realize  progress says the Penguin.  Its not so bad.  You just inflict it on them.   It doesn’t hurt a bit. Be sure to flip the bird to the federal government at every opportunity just to prove how tough and impervious to the pain of others real Mainers can be.

  • Anonymous

    finally we agree on something

  • Anonymous

    Describe good education because I have my Associates Degree and working on my Bachelors Degree and it took me almost 3 years to find a half way decent part-time job, I even put in for a position at a local library and was told I was over qualified and they didn’t even offer me an interview. It’s hard now a days for individuals to get a job even with good education.. 

  • MaineHiker

    My house:  Low SSDI fixed income less than $800 to cover everything. I have many medication covered by part D that I could not possibly afford. And YOU want to cut  Maine-care needed and
    relied upon,for me???. The State of Maine
    and the feds need to stop trying to balance “?” the budget by
    squeezing the very poor and giving tax breaks to the top 1%.

  • Anonymous

    I work six and sometimes 7 days a week at a very good paying job, i can’t afford health insurance. Welcome to my world. Thank you Gov Lepage for finally making DHHS be acountable for their check book. P.S. Make them dig a little deeper!

  • http://twitter.com/NorthernRants Bill Buck

    Uh oh. “Childless adults, 19- and 20-year-olds and some parents.”  Better start ocCUpying.

  • Dumbb All Over

    At what percent should the middle class guy that works for a living be taxed? How bout s when them trickly down jobs be comin?

  • Anonymous

    Like it or not, states, and yes, even countries run out of money. Instead of looking to blame the governor for trying to save money, look to politicians in Washington who really control the purse strings & waste the majority of our tax dollars.

  • Anonymous

    The article clearly states some parents will be impacted.

  • Anonymous

    You are correct, good jobs are hard to come by, even with an education.  The U. S. economy has been in decline and it’s not getting any better under Obama.  If you remember, Baldacci was Governor for the past 8 years, along with a Democratic House and Senate.  They created this financial hole and killed Maine’s economy.  LePage is a good man and his policies will turn things around, which is what we all want.  Continuing the same old tried and failed policies of Baldacci will forever kill Maine’s economy.  If you want to  find a real good job with benefits, then we have got to give our businessman Governor’s policies a chance.  The other option has failed us.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t completely follow your logic there but the idea would be to save money by not spending it on ever increasing private premiums (to just have things denied at will) and to increase taxes with more services provided. 

    Taxes are not bad. The bad is when you pay high taxes without getting services rendered in return. If you increase taxes while decreasing expenditures for everyone and allow for a net income gain of, in some cases, of many hundreds of dollars, then everyone benefits. I have worked for employers that offered insurance plans that would have cost me 800 dollars a month when I was making 1200. That doesn’t make the go get a real job catchphrase applicable in reality when a real job isn’t always going to offer things that benefit the employee rather than the CEOs bottom line.

  • Anonymous

    And after you taken all the working wealthys money that will last maybe a year then what bright happy guy????

  • Anonymous

    Many people that receive MaineCare work; some of them full time. When you only make $8 an hour (or less if you’re self-employed), it’s difficult to afford health insurance, especially if you work seasonally or hold multiple part-time jobs that offer no benefits.

  • Anonymous

    Cool.  Let’s fight obesity by imprisoning every elected official who voted to make pizza a vegetable.

  • PabMainer

    Kudos to you and your wife for sacrificing and providing for two needy children….agreed that there are those that have a legitimate need for assistance and on the other hand we have those that are abusing and defrauding the system…..no one wants to with-hold assistance from those who genuinely need it and deserve a helping hand for a season……it’s the chronic abuse that needs to stop…..I love your compassion for these two children and would welcome an avenue for you and your wife to get some needed help…..thanks for your caring…..

  • Anonymous

    o k this is an opinion page and just because other people here dont hold to your socialist view points does not make their opinions wrong or them uneducated it just makes you sound like an intolerant elitist .and by socialist  i refer to the marxist definition as the first step on the road from capitalism to communism .

  • Anonymous

    and again intolerant  elitist socialist snobbery

  • MaineHiker

    ALLOW THIS POST!
    My house:  Low SSDI fixed income (<$800/mo.). Maine-care
    is desperately needed and relied upon. The State of Maine
    and the feds need to stop trying to balance "?" the budget by
    squeezing the very poor and giving tax breaks to the top 1%.

  • Anonymous

    Lolli— You’ve never lived in Ohio, have you?  High crime.  High drug use.  GM ghost-towns.  Meth labs exploding routinely in residential neighborhoods.  Crack houses.  People verbally abused at hospitals because they can’t pay for the emergency treatment they were forced to get because they couldn’t pay for non-emergency treatment.   I welcome you to go live in a town like Dayton and tell me how great a lack of social services is for the community.

  • Anonymous

    So the bottom 47% dont have to pay sales tax when they go to the store?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXPTPFL746OV2VGR5WBOEUF6W4 Roger

    Reversing a bad tax is not a tax break. The estate tax is a unfair burden on many not just the “rich”  many small businesses are ruined by this. Keep in Maine this tax is aw tax on monies that have already been taxed and overtaxed. How many times do you think it just to tax the same money over and over?

  • Anonymous

    Fantasy

  • PabMainer

    Agree…..many complaining but not hearing any alternative solutions to an ever growing problem….needs to be looked at closely…..

  • Guest

    We never run out when it comes to Foreign Aid and Oil Subsidies.

    We never run out when Politicians give themselves a raise.

  • Anonymous

    lepage doesn’t have the money. so what do you suggest.. print more money. Or where should he cut?? You seem to have all the answers as you think lepage is doing nothing… 
    SO WHATS THE ANSWER??? ..Rob peter to pay paul then what..??Cuts have to be made over 300,000 on the system…TELL us you do not know anybody collecting some sort of payout from the state or fed that either “faking it” sickness or is a career welfare. Or do you walk around with blinders all day

  • PabMainer

    Well stated……

  • Anonymous

    Re-elect Lepage!!

  • Guest

    The proposal is not going to cut Mainecare for the disabled.

  • Anonymous

     Ok…..You have convinced us that you do not own a business… but you do envy your neighbor

  • Anonymous

    You’re right.
    Across the board socialized engineering is bankrupting Europe.

  • Anonymous

    and thats why all these people that can afford to from these countries that have socialized healthcare come to us for surgery  evan the p m from canada came here last year

  • Anonymous

    Thank you cp444, great post, I have a $4000 deductible per person and $7000 for family every year.  We can’t run to the doctor for every little hang nail.  Health care is expensive for all of us.  I don’t mind paying for people with very sick or disabled children,but I’ll  be darn if I pay for fat,lazy people.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you could become an employer and solve the problem.

  • Anonymous

    Of course all that this will accomplish is to shift costs from the state to working Maineres and their employers who will end up paying higher premiums yet again, since the people excluded from MaineCare will still get treated and the care providers will have to increase increase their rates to cover for uncollected bills. The Governor surely knows this.

  • Anonymous

    Foreign aid is a teeny part of the federal budget. 

  • Anonymous

    Sally. They cannot pay their debts. They want to secure the money to pay the debts with the physical assets that belong to the more frugal German people. Germany isn’t buying it and Merkel threatened war over it only a few weeks ago. Where have you been?

    http://euobserver.com/19/114075

  • Anonymous

    Great… YOU worked for it.  Your kids didn’t.  Let your kids have some of it.  Society needs the rest of it.  

  • Anonymous

    What town do you live in?Up here in Brownville there are many people from out of state that are on Mainecare.They also have new 4 wheelers,snowsleds,and also pay very little to go to the doctor.I wish I could get my blood pressure medicine for 1.00.

  • Anonymous

    nope run away social programs 

  • Anonymous

    You are way off base. It is the debt built up by governments that is the problem. You need to read a paper guy.

  • Anonymous

    If there’s fraud, the State should go after those bad apples instead of throwing out the entire barrel.

    There are many hard-working adults that receive MaineCare benefits, but can’t afford health insurance on minimum wage (or less if they’re self-employed).

  • Guest

    It is amazing that Adrienne has to talk for him.

  • Anonymous

    That last sentence speaks volumes. About you. 

  • Anonymous

    now they are all gonna say you are uneducated and stupid because you see things differently 

  • Anonymous

    There are “childless adults” that are truly in need…those that have raised their children but are not yet of retirement age; those that are not disabled and still working full time, but can’t afford healthcare due to low wages. It sounds like LePage will take away their safety net…

  • Anonymous

    You are just parotting GOP propaganda, since many European countries have privatitized health insurance systems that cover all citizens and are anything but bankrupt. By the way, several of these countries also privatized their postal systems. We could learn a lot from them.

  • Anonymous

    Why not become an employer and help solve the problem?

  • Anonymous

    To all you critics of Governor LePage, please put the blame where it
    righteously belongs.  The blame solely belongs on the heels of Governor
    Baldacci and the Democratic House and Senate.  For over 8 years, these
    people lied to so many people, leading them to believe that the State of
    Maine can forever spend money that the state does not have, on social
    programs.  Their creative accounting gimmicks fooled some, but their
    financial lie could not continue forever, especially when Baldacci chose
    not to pay 500 million dollars owed to hospitals.  To name a few,
    Baldacci chose to rob from the state pension, to help temporarily fund
    his ill affordable social programs, all in the hopes of regaining power
    in the next election.  I will admit, it did work, but unfortunately, the
    day of reckoning is upon us, but not because of LePage.  The day of
    reckoning is upon us because of the failed budgetary policies of
    Baldacci, Mitchell, Pingree and Emily Cain.  If you’ve got a gripe, then
    please take it up with them because they are the ones who left the
    State of Maine in such a travesty of a financial mess!!  We can only be
    grateful that LePage has the courage to FIX Maine for us and for future
    generations.

  • Guest

    Nope, he’s special.

  • Anonymous

    not to support anything he says or does, the BDN does pick out the picture I imagine!

  • Anonymous

    Do the math.
    $58k per year, man.
    $21k a year, woman.
    Living together,16 years, 1 child…(hey, product of the 70′s).
    Woman pays $146. a mo. Dirigo plan.
    Affordable?
    For them, yes.
    For the Maine taxpayer, no.

  • Guest

    How many ”Mainers” collect benefits in other states? What is the difference?

  • Anonymous

    Sick that people who are truly in need are getting their benefits cut to support the deadbeats who are getting benefits they don’t deserve? 80% increase in Maine Care over the last ten years? Please, it is your sides leftism that is bankrupting us financially and morally that sickens us.

  • Anonymous

    er, they don’t come here to get MRI’s that cost 3 to 4 X as much as anywhere else, oh you are so poorly informed…..people leave here to go to Germany, India for cheap, quality health care….

  • Anonymous

    my ? was how much of what i leave should the government be allowed to take considering that ive already paid taxes on it if you dont want to answer no big deal im just curious  

  • Anonymous

    65,000 people, of which maybe 10,000 vote. You posit a sad defense of this welfare state. Keep the immorality and financial disaster going just to win votes. I always suspected leftists were lacking courage of convictions, now I know it. They only want to buy votes with welfare benefits and you have given away the game.

  • Guest

    They are at the clinic like clock work every day.

  • Anonymous

    Wrong.  Reputable mainstream publications have published countless stories on and learned economists have written a great deal about Eruope’s financial predicament.  Simply put, the governmentso in the European Union spent more than the could generate via the tax base to meet socialized obligations (including education, cradle to grave welfare, and state-paid health care).   Social progams are dependent on tax revenue to operate and sustain them. 

    Then they started borrowing money by floating government bonds to pay for to continue their obligations when tax revenue eroded.  Accordingly, they sold the bonds to other Euro nations.   Finally, whenever a default was imminent on the unsustainable bond obligations they took a bailout from the EU (with cash raised from bonds sold to other members of the EU).  In short, they have been passing unsustainable debt around in a circle.  You may do well to note that the last bond sale by an EU nation seeking another sucker to prolong its overspending went flat on its face.  The market simply isn’t buying it.

    Moreover, the banks of the EU are too weak from a revenue standpoint to be of much assistance in this matter and have to be propped up via midnight infusions of cash from the US Fed. Yes, your money going overseas to prop up unsustainable cylces of debt that emerged from over-socialized EU nations. 

    Socialism only lasts as long as the other guy’s money.  Europe is demonstrating what happens when all the other guy runs out of money.  It’s the reality of Economics 101, which should be required course, along with History 101.  We’ve seen this bit of foolishness before and it never ends well.   You cannot escape it.  If fundamental changes in the economic principles governing the EU are not instituted in a timely manner there will be a economic catastrophe that will really get your attention.

  • Anonymous

    riddle me this you earn money. you pay tax on it. when you die you should retax it again.. why don’t we just double the income tax on everyone at the start

  • Anonymous

    the employers are the risk takers that deserve the spoils they’ve EARNED. feel free to put it all on the line for the rewards or possibility of losing it all. requiring such a proposal is not practical.

  • Anonymous

    she only answers in riddles

  • Guest

    But….he delivered some cheese to the homeless shelter. What are you talking about?

  • Anonymous

    Socialism in Europe? I see where you are coming from….

  • Anonymous

    sorry you could not follow where i was going ill try to be clear  I do not trust the government [ie republican or democrat]to have my best interests they can barely take care of the roads i can only imagine what kind of a job they would do with health care   hope that clears up my point

  • Anonymous

     Queen Elizabeth wage got frozen, where England goes, so goes the US. I think a wage freeze for all politicans in the US  until at least 2015 is in order.

  • MaineHiker

    GOP are the dangerous and short sighted party. Their raw greed and ruthlessness has made the World hate us. Democrats have been there to ameliorate that hate and greed driven party. There must be something we can do bring the GOP into the real World of people and feelings.

  • Anonymous

    not disrespectful at all and no i dont live there but i do know most of the folks there some times i use people 4  general labor jobs .

  • Anonymous

    Name a country  living  under this method of Health care that isn’t Broke . Leave out Canada, it fails as a comparison.

  • Guest

    That may be true, however, my point is that we are giving to other countries and neglecting our own.

  • Anonymous

    LOL, yes. Unions will fix everything.

  • Anonymous

    no they are not and they are good folks and i honestly dont have the answers but i am saying we have a problem and i dont believe we can tax our way out o it

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Excessive abuses of capitalism is Bankrupting America!

  • Guest

    Absolutely. They talk about no raises for American workers and how it is going to hurt. How would they know?

  • Anonymous

    the only difference is its alot easier to get benefits here.thats y so many people are coming here

  • Anonymous

    And what  are these degree’s in?  What type of jobs did you apply for? What were your “Over qualifications”? I  can guess how this is going to go.

  • Anonymous

    I just hate to see people suggest a blanket end to all foreign aid as if that’s going to solve the problem. It’s not even going to be a drop in the bucket.  And it’s part of how we earn goodwill/make friends/secure our position. In other words, it’s an investment that pays us back.  But I’m all with ya about ending subsidies to big oil, high fructose sugar, etc.

  • Anonymous

    It all comes down to basic economics ie what the traffic will bear.

    If the majority of Americans can’t afford basic health care and the state and federal governments refuse to cover low-income individuals, in particular,  at the not-so-current rates of inflation in this area, then a whole bunch of providers, doctors, hospitals and other Providers will be out of business.

    SOL along with the rest of ‘the 99%’ of consumers.

    The rise in the cost of health care, alongside delivery of same, in the US traces back readily to the introduction of the first HMO’s in the mid 70′s/early 80′s.

    This has all been brewing for a long time.

    It’s also outrageous that our food supply is both lacking in nutrition AND loaded with pollutants.

    And the GOP/Tea Partiers would like to scale back on regulations?

    Talk about ‘death panels’… Obama 2012!

  • Anonymous

    From the dawn of humans when people took responsibility for themselves… with all the free money given out by our governments.. now people look to handouts and lawsuits a quick buck and everyone want to sue at first glance.. everyone wants someone else to pay.. and its easy in this economy to envy sucessfull people. Since what point in time did the great one say it is a given birthright that businesses are responsible to pay someones health insurance… a person that work only 40 hrs  out of 168 ..Gets paid for their work…., goes home works around the house, maybe a second job for cash. drinks, smokes,  dopes stupid things that get him or her hurt… I ask why is a business responsible for a worker that is only at work 1/4 of the week for them.  Why aren’t workers responsible for themselves. Wonder why business move overseas??? The countries with nation healthcare do not  put the burden on the business who are trying to keep people employed,  everyone has to share the cost,..

    It is the same for personal property tax. Taxation without representation.

  • Anonymous

    Good question. I have been entertaining myself reading these posts for some time now. This particular poster seems to have sort of a “drive by”  style; posting little zingers in a holier than thou fasion, yet not offering much in substance. Any time someone challenges her for specifics, she never responds.

  • Anonymous

    thanks 4 your good thoughts me and my wife will get by we always have its the abuse and fraud thats killing these programs and i know there are folks that trully need help that aint gonna get it because others that dont know how to play the system

  • Anonymous

    A woman in Texas just committed suicide and tried to kill her 2 children (who may be dead as I write) because she kept getting denied for food stamps. Why do those in power believe the poor have hidden assets they can tap into? Doesn’t LePage understand here in Maine we can’t keep abreast of the food pantryies’ needs? People can’t get jobs anymore with health insurance benefits. LePage is against the national health law and he’s against businesses being taxed to provide employee health benefits. Now he’s trying to ring the death knell for the poor who rely on MaineCare. Well done, governor. If you wanted to drum up votes for the other party, you did a good job.

  • Anonymous

    maybe you should donate any excess cash you have to the cause…if you really care

  • Anonymous

    we have got to stop blaming the government and start looking to ourselves for the solution.if an elderly person has a relative they can live with why aint they there in the 1st place . 

  • MaineHiker

    You’re story is compelling. However, what about the guy who has a disability that prevents him from being dependable as a worker but it taking so many medications that without Maine-care they would be overwhelmed by the medical cost and be unable to eat?

  • MaineHiker

    No

  • Anonymous

    At LEAST the current 45% on 3.5 and up.  More when the wealth is obscene like Buffet, Gates, and the Kochs.

  • Guest

    You do know that the government is out of control all the way around? Why stop here? Why not start at the top?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    He would need customers with money and nobody has it but the whealthy that would be competing with him to get thier last dime!

  • Anonymous

    Poor?

    Just die, please.

    And let your poor relatives pay for your cremation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Employers Risk takers?????

    Try living hand to mouth on minumim wages!

    Besides, You cant file for bankruptcy when you have nothing but a piece of card board as your home!!

  • Anonymous

     The engines overheating   ……..shut-ter down Paul!!!

  • Anonymous

    Short sided speak for yourself.   It’s about time he kicked these folks off.  It’s  too bad he couldn’t kick off about 300,000 more off this wasteful program that does absolutely nothing.   It’s time they get out and get jobs and pay for their own insurance.  He should end the rest of these programs then shut down DHHS for good.    I like others are tired of paying for these folks,  it’s time everyone pulled their weight to help get this economy going.   If these folks want Welfare move south or better yet move North to Canada.  They will gladly hand out the freebies up in Canada.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    I like your thinkin TwoClaws!

  • Anonymous

    I worked long hours for 40 years to provide for myself and my family and MY future. I’m well educated, and had a good job and a good income. I looked to the future. Now I have a good retirement and good health care coverage. I prepared myself for my future. I’m sorry that many of you did not or could not do the same thing. HOWEVER, please stop looking to me and the State of Maine to take care of your every need. Life does not come with a guarantee. 

  • Anonymous

    Take away their damn pensions. Limit their terms. Make it truly public service. Hey, make insider trading illegal for them. They made it illegal for everyone else. They are slime. Hey make them get healthcare like the rest of us not their sweet little congressional plan they have. Why are Americans divided? The sleazebags in government did it. From goofy boy Obama to that wet spineless noodle Boehner. All the way down the line. We’re fighting amongst ourselves, hating each other while those cats sit fat and happy living high on the hog. Yesiree, they have us right where they want us.

  • Anonymous

    Fantasy is spending 2.5 trillion per year on health care that does not exist for most

    China’s GDP is 2.5 trillion per year.

    Game (appears to be) on.

  • Anonymous

    We are poor because of the braindead President we have.   This guy is nothing more than a communist who wants everything Nationalized, everyone on Welfare and all jobs coming from the Government.   If we didn’t bailout everyone we would be on the road to recovery.  It’s time to stop subsidizing everyone, bailing out everyone and time to let capitalism work.

  • Anonymous

    Inhumanity has its price.

  • Anonymous

    Right, and the bottom 47% write the tax laws…

  • Anonymous

    i’ve been an employer that took risks, lost everything but my home! worked harder and worked my way back. and yes you can file even if you don’t own a home

  • Anonymous

    Have you  considered , even for a moment, that maybe it is not about what you think the  wealthy should pay or what new fee’s or Taxes you can  dream up for them ? Have you considered,even for a moment, that is not about  the baseline standard of living  that you decide  everyone should live and that others will have to pay for? Have you considered, even for a moment, that  you  do not get to decide how much of  other peoples money  you are entitled to take from them? Have you  considered, even for a moment,  that you nor the government have  the right to decide  who’s Liberties  are the most important? How full of yourself must you be  to think  you can   decide that a few folks should pay most, and most  will pay few, if any.

  • Anonymous

    This doesn’t state that people have to live in Maine 45 days before applying….it says applicants are to be notified within 45 days if they are eligible for Mainecare or not……so I stand correct….There is no waiting period to apply for benefits

  • Anonymous

    “Working wealthy” wins today’s Orwell Award.

  • Anonymous

    yes but more then likely they were giving the money to buy their products in the form of some sort of aid…. so I would say NO!!! the working class and rich paid for them

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Germany, Sweden, Denmark (I think), Japan… several other European countries that are not broke and are providing one form or another of public health care… Most of the rest of the civilized world has some form of public health care, and most of them are not broke… The world is having financial troubles in general, and some, Greece for instance, IS broke, but most are providing care for their citizens while a minority of people in the US are holding up us doing what the rest of the world have been doing for decades now… We are way behind the curve on what works in providing health care and way ahead of the curve in doing what doesn’t work and makes our system so much more expensive and with poorer outcomes…

  • Anonymous

    Amen!

  • Anonymous

    My husband and I have worked and paid taxes all our lives.  We had health insurance partially paid though our companies.  We are both in our 50′s and were laid off last year.  I tried to get some help through DHHS, just temporarily, but we made too much money on unemployment.  We have been paying our COBRA premiums for 13 months at $1100.00 per month.  Luckily, I was a saver, not a buyer of big screen TVs.

    I worked in health care and the number of young healthy, childless people on MaineCare really started to bug me.  I could name hundreds of encounters.  But, HIPAA…  I voted for LePage and I am glad to see he is cleaning up the system.  Luckily, we now have jobs where we will get some of our health insurance paid through our companies again… after 90 days…still paying COBRA.

    MaineCare should be a stepping stone or temporary help for those unemployed or people who are truly disabled.  It is being used as a lifestyle.  I could go on about disability also, but for now… I won’t.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    BS. For profit health care and insurance hasn’t kept costs down. Your ideology that the market is wonderful and fair and keeps costs low is pure fantasy.

  • Anonymous

    But why should I pay for people like you?

    (tongue jammed in cheek)

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    You are talking out of both sides of your mouth not knowing what the issues really are. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    A hearty endorsement without a single metric to PROVE with empirical data that he is doing a good job… typical…

  • Anonymous

    So what you are saying is take the money away from the employer, so he can’t buy a car, build another home, & travel. The only problem with that plan is that all of those things he bought require people to build them, people to service and repair them. They also generate sales tax, excise tax, & property tax. Take those things away, and what do you have? Fewer jobs and less tax revenue.

  • Anonymous

    Yes I have, I have reported  this to DHHS  and I also  Informed  these employers  that I have done so. Two men  moved down the street to a different restaurant  and the third  fellow “hurt” himself  on the job and is now collecting disability. This all  happened within 3 weeks  from the time I talked to the business owners. I have listed My name as my “Handle” ,I guess it would be easier  for an old wench to  come on these boards ,hiding behind a moniker ,and rant about people when they have no way of knowing the facts.

  • Anonymous

    “Let them all die and reduce the surplus population” Ebenezer Scrooge (Paul LePage)

  • Anonymous

    Google “ad hominem.”

    Twice.

  • hasacluemaine

    I believe in free markets. Health care has long ago been off the free market system due to massive government subsidy. See medicaid/medicare. The health system, bloated by government subsidy is no longer a free market system. Price controls are in order here…and I say that reluctantly, but live by the sword (government), die by the sword.

  • Anonymous

    The PM from Canada came here because the surgeon involved was the most experienced in the world AND the PM could afford to travel. Nothing more to it.

  • hasacluemaine

    I believe in free markets. Health care has long ago been off the free market system due to massive government subsidy. See medicaid/medicare. The health system, bloated by government subsidy is no longer a free market system. Price controls are in order here…and I say that reluctantly, but live by the sword (government), die by the sword.

  • Anonymous

    You misplet Wall Street “profits.”

  • Anonymous

    I’m offended by your “BS” comment.  Can you walk over into NH and inform them that they should give up their insurance competition and subscribe to the Baldacci Plan?  They would run you out of the state for such a ridiculous request.  You want to bring down the cost of health insurance, then I suggest we pass tort reform.  Unfortunately, the trial lawyers own the Democratic Party and they are opposed to this.  Who said the market is fair?  Life is not fair and it will never be, no matter how hard we try.  The free market does drive down the cost and provides a better product?  Why do you think our founding fathers chose capitalism?  Are you anti-capitalism?

  • Anonymous

    None?

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the future of America under GOP leadership.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to say this BUT that cannot be everyone elses problem. I work at a job that offers insurance and i pay almost 250 a week for it because i work and dont qualify for MaineCare. Somewhere along the line people need to make decisions that will hold capable people responsible for their own problems rather then put it on the backs of others who are struggling as well. I am a diabetic who had no health care for a long time while going to college and only able to work part time, it was hard but i made it through i bettered my life like many of these capable adults should do as well, and no i didnt have federal aid either i had to take out student loans to pay for my college education.

  • Anonymous

    Great!  Throw the elderly, the working poor, the indigent, the incapable, those who have worked and contributed for decades and have fallen on hard times, the injured veterans, the handicapped, the ignorant, throw them out in the snow and let them die.  This folks, this is the ultimate goal of the GOP.  To return to the feudal state of Europe during the middle ages.  Great!

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like you are a Baldacci Fan!  Wow, I hear you’re a rare breed.  Were you one of the 19% who voted for Mitchell too? 

  • StillRelaxin

    Well, I never said anything about folks who have wayyyy below low intelligence did I?  Those would be the people who actually want to kiss Paul’s behind.  The rest of us would likely be satisfied with a federally sponsored Universal Healthcare System that puts the other civilized nations that have had such for decades to shame. 

  • Anonymous

    then maybe those parents should get a damn job and get off welfare

  • Anonymous

    And their military force$ are the envy of Canada.

  • Anonymous

    i am far from rich, i work 50+ hrs a week and so does my husband just to make up for the amount we have to pay in for our insurance through my husbands employer because we dont qualify for Maine care because we actually work. why should i feel bad for these people who get mainecare living on welfare, no one feels bad for me that because i work i dont qualify. Please its about time they arent handed something without working for it.

  • Anonymous

    maybe we should take a look at Israel’s health care systems.It’s suppose to be one of the worlds best,but we’re only talking a population of almost 8 million.One of the reason we have a problem is the lobbyists and your friendly lawyer.We  should have had a health care plan in place back in the 50′s when the health care plans started ie Blue Cross/BlueShield

  • Anonymous

    I know someone in their early 40′s on social security disability because of an anger issue, no kids ( because i have them )receiving welfare,food stamps and maine care because of this lame excuse, no problem working under the table and able to afford alcohol and smokes. those are the people who ruin it for those who really need it and i am sorry for that but someone needs to take a stand. No one feels bad for me and my husband that we have to pay for insurance for the kids through our employer

  • Anonymous

    glad to see common sense!

  • Anonymous

    You are right.   It is not about putting new taxes on the wealthy.   (“Old taxes” might be appropriate, however.) And it is certainly not about what I as an individual decide.  Therefore we should use historical context as our guide in determining what proportion of taxes should be paid by the wealthy.  Using the last 100 years as a guide, it is easy to conclude that the system is out of balance, that a huge percentage of the nation’s wealth is concentrated in the hands of a relative few — and that changes in our tax structure and especially changes to the capital gains tax have contributed to the present imbalance.

    We can argue the right and wrong of different approaches to taxation until the cows come home.   Three truths remain, however:  (1) the wealthy are currently doing very well; and (2) their contribution to the society on which they depend to both earn and spend their wealth is at a historic low; and (3) the current economic downturn and the lack of consumer spending isn’t helping anyone.

    I certainly don’t have all the answers.   If anything, I am advocating for return to moderation. The trouble is that the extremists in Washington think they do have all the answers — and they are trying to lead us into a foreign territory with no clue of what kind of society might result.  And, oh, they get their ideas from ALEC and the Koch brothers, which doesn’t help in the trust department.

  • Anonymous

    same to you man!  good thoughts, too bad that had not been the case for so many previous years!

  • Anonymous

    you really think the so called one percent   can make up trillions of dollars.Do explain what loophole will magically close this trillions of dollars gap in health care cost.How about everyone  having some skin in the game. I believe lowering the thirty percent  fraud in the system. Combine the dirigo debacle with the mainecare needs. Then work on lowering  actual health care cost instead of just changing who pays for it. Campaign slogans and class division will not fix this problem.I wish the dems would grow up and have a real adult conversation about fixing health care cost.

  • Anonymous

    yes it is where we have to be exploring, but no matter what certain elements, are determined to derail the whole train, across the whole nation.
    his ideas are not drastic, they are only what should of been in the first place.
      but some are just plain stupid, and dont care about anyone but themselves.

  • Anonymous

    I have traveled in India and Africa, and therefore I know what absolute destitution looks like.  Personally, I would prefer to live in a society in which there is a safety net.  America has a long tradition of being that kind of society. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a LePage fan by any means but this I agree with.  I’ve been Active Duty Military since I was 19 yrs old and while it’s not always easy, I support myself without aid from others.  There isn’t any reason for many Maine residents to receive such benefits.  It’s about taking the initiative to find a decent job to support yourself.  I love Maine and I don’t mind paying tax to a state that I probably wont live in for quite some time but I wish the money was used in a better way.  There are people that require Maine Care for valid reasons BUT I have zero respect for those men and women in their 20s collecting from Mainers that are working hard for their money just because they’re lazy.  I’d love to leave the military and come home but its just not something that’s feasible.  Sacrifices are a part of adulthood. 

  • Anonymous

    and every nation stupid enough to do that, has waiting lines, and limited access,limited capabilities.and RATIONING! you dont like rich people/  well, in a universal h c system, the rich are the only ones that could afford to go to anoyher country. why do you think so many people from all over the world come here? 
    you never hear of people flocking to canada or england for treatment.
    go ahead play into the hands of that nasty prez, and the dems. dreams! total control over your every need. not you, or your present doctor!
    boy, some brainfart you had there in wanting filthy socialism.

  • Anonymous

    I do believe unions had as much to do with sending work overseas as anyone. What makes people pay dues all their life to an organization that makes a few rich,and  relies solely on government intervention when  times are tough. How many of these unions have actually created jobs. How many of these unions  pay health benefits. How many raises have unions pased out.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention the employers who depend on MaineCare and such to subsidize their employees!!!

  • Anonymous

    If Maine was so FLAT BROKE  how did LePage find the $1o5M to give away as a tax break 10 minutes after he got into office.   You can’t have it both ways, we were either flat broke or there was $105M stashed away for an immediate tax break.

  • Anonymous

    LePage 2014!

  • Anonymous

    Unemployed English major?

  • Anonymous

    I am likely to have the same outcome.

    Actually no. I have taught my child to expect nothing and give everything. Something these entitled people don’t understand. In fact they attack people for it.

  • Anonymous

    I hear you but it’s not a runaway train. Did you know that medical books (like the ones I studied) directly attack the issue of making money in graphic detail and have for decades?

  • OldWench

    If I had extra I would certainly use it to help others, as that’s what I’ve always done.  If I were one of the rich getting the tax cuts I would write to LePage and tell him to keep the tax cut and let the poor grandmother have her insulin because she needs that a heck of a lot more than a rick person needs a few extra dollars they won’t even miss.

  • Anonymous

    Prior to the dawn of the Great Society there was excellent, accessible medical care in this country. In the tiny town I grew up in there were three doctors we could choose from, all within walking distance of downtown, all available upon need and all of whom knew us as neighbors.

    Ever since then Mainers have elected Democrats to prove their compassionate street credentials who then in turn handed out money fist over fist for every bleeding heart cause at the slightest sniffle.      

    Tell us again how the grandiose Great Society greatly fixed what wasn’t broken.

  • OldWench

    Have you ever tried to care for someone with alzheimer’s?  These folks cannot be left alone for even a minute.  My ex mother in law had it and her husband had to retire, move in with a relative and hire people to help care for her.  The careful saving he did for 50 years for their retirement was blown through in less than 5 years of caring for her full time.

  • OldWench

    Yes, probably only 10,000 used to vote, but now that LePage has roundly ticked them off you can bet they will be voting from now on.

  • Anonymous

    Who pays for this multi trillion dollar progam you tout.Let meguess themean old 1% again.Or should everyone pay for it. As for your few supporter remark time to ge off the BDN blog and look around.The hard core dems that increased entitlements to a point of unsustainable levels are dwindling fast thankfully or maine. This program has a chance to get some off the roles and to work.As far as low intelligence, are you saying responsibilty and self reliance equals low intelligence. I do believe spending the day ona blog complaining about someone that at least put themselves out there to chnge things show wherethe intelligence and courage really lie.

  • Anonymous

    Who pays for this multi trillion dollar progam you tout.Let meguess themean old 1% again.Or should everyone pay for it. As for your few supporter remark time to ge off the BDN blog and look around.The hard core dems that increased entitlements to a point of unsustainable levels are dwindling fast thankfully or maine. This program has a chance to get some off the roles and to work.As far as low intelligence, are you saying responsibilty and self reliance equals low intelligence. I do believe spending the day ona blog complaining about someone that at least put themselves out there to chnge things show wherethe intelligence and courage really lie.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like  you are smoking your cigarette now, so the hell with the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    Who pays for this multi trillion dollar progam you tout.Let meguess themean old 1% again.Or should everyone pay for it. As for your few supporter remark time to ge off the BDN blog and look around.The hard core dems that increased entitlements to a point of unsustainable levels are dwindling fast thankfully or maine. This program has a chance to get some off the roles and to work.As far as low intelligence, are you saying responsibilty and self reliance equals low intelligence. I do believe spending the day ona blog complaining about someone that at least put themselves out there to chnge things show wherethe intelligence and courage really lie.

  • Anonymous

    Who pays for this multi trillion dollar progam you tout.Let meguess themean old 1% again.Or should everyone pay for it. As for your few supporter remark time to ge off the BDN blog and look around.The hard core dems that increased entitlements to a point of unsustainable levels are dwindling fast thankfully or maine. This program has a chance to get some off the roles and to work.As far as low intelligence, are you saying responsibilty and self reliance equals low intelligence. I do believe spending the day ona blog complaining about someone that at least put themselves out there to chnge things show wherethe intelligence and courage really lie.

  • Anonymous

    Reasonable answer. So there are 5 or 10 living there. That would still leave us over 64 thousand short wouldn’t it. I do not doubt that there is a percentage of people gaming the system. I also know that Mr. LePage has not been totally honest in what he has told us before and I would like to see something other then “we are short $120 million, but we don’t know where so we are cutting Mainecare.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Please provide support for 65,000 people losing benefits.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Take a few of them in at your place and walk your talk.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    A safety net is not supposed to be a life long hammock.

  • Anonymous

    replying to still relaxin Who pays for this multi trillion dollar progam you tout.Let meguess themean old 1% again.Or should everyone pay for it. As for your few supporter remark time to ge off the BDN blog and look around.The hard core dems that increased entitlements to a point of unsustainable levels are dwindling fast thankfully or maine. This program has a chance to get some off the roles and to work.As far as low intelligence, are you saying responsibilty and self reliance equals low intelligence. I do believe spending the day ona blog complaining about someone that at least put themselves out there to chnge things show wherethe intelligence and courage really lie.

  • OldWench

    You should never use your real name here.  There are some whack people who will harass you, threaten you, etc.  That’s the only reason I don’t use my real name.  I say the exact same thing in person as I do on here, though.  And yes, I don’t believe your story.  If they work at a restaurant and are servers it means they make all of something like $3 an hour.  You enter your tips in at the end of your shift and then your tips are taxed and deducted out of your meager paycheck.  Some servers claim part of their tips at the time of receiving them and keep track of the part they don’t claim and then add it into their tax return later as additional tips that had yet to be claimed.  I did that a few times over the years I was waitressing.  Some weeks it was slow and I needed extra money to pay the rent or whatever.  Just because it wasn’t reported right then doesn’t mean it isn’t being reported later.  Unless you are right there doing their taxes then you don’t know and are just assuming because you have an automatic bias against everyone who receives any kind of help.  There is no way you can know what you claim to know about those men and I call BS.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Apparently, 30% of the people of Maine have had no problem getting this welfare. What does one woman in Texas and food stamps have top do with these cuts in an over-extended Mainecare program??

  • Anonymous

    It’s always Education, and Welfare programs that are the first to be put upon the chopping block  for budget cuts. I’m pretty sure that in this great state of ours, there are other areas of the budget that could be looked at for cuts. The education programs have been cut so far now that there are far to few programs for special needs children, sports, music, art, or extra-curicullar programs; things children need. The problem as I see it, started when these programs were created in the 1930′s, for many years more and more people have come to rely on these programs. In past years with each new President they have been revamped a bit, had their program names changed, added new criterias and guidelines, but there has been no real regulations put into place for either how  the Federal allotment monies will be spent, and whom they will spent on. The case workers are at the front, meeting people and deeming whether these people need help, what kind of help do they need, and what if anything do they quailify for, it is through them ( caseworkers) that the paperwork gets done and monies get alotted. I think all open cases need to gone back into for a closer look, making sure that all criteria is being met. Just in recent past the guidelines have gotten more strigent, but are those cases that have been on these programs for along time been looked at? These new gidelines and criteria that are in place now are being used for new people coming in for help, or those who’ve been not long using DHHS services. Here are a few examples of how the systems being abused.  There are people claiming other peoples children, people are being claimed that are no longer living, there are children living at home who are over the age of 18, and getting Foodstamps under their own open case, but stating on the application that they are homeless, children living at home with a job and income , the person with an open case through DHHS does not report. I’m sure alot more than these few examples goes unreported. These are just a few examples of what I know to be true. So if I’m aware of these indescretions, and a few more 100 or so people are too, why are’nt the “powers that be”? If all of these fruadulant cases were found out, these people would no longer qualify for any DHHS program; look at the money this alone would save! These people who skirt the rules should not be able to collect services, they need to be found out, and the only way thats going to happen is for more strigent proof of what people are reporting. Caseworkers could follow up on existing clients, and those who are new and applying. Verify residency, who lives there, how many live there? Verify through mail listings, Run social security numbers, if there is someone employed thats included in a case they will come up. Yes, I can here it now, how overloaded with work they are already.  If these simple things were being done, it would cut their caes in half. We all know someone who is taking advantage of the “system” When these offenders are found out, they would have to pay back benefits recieved, and no longer quailify for any programs. Once this has been done, and those existing cases have been through this overhaul, it would be easier and better controlled when adding new cases. Another point I would like to make on the topic of Medicare….. yes there are many people on Medicare who are in dire need of medical insurance, they should not have to worry about medical care that is needed; these would include “childless people”, and those that are young adults. No one should have to go with out medical treatment because they can’t afford, or don’t qualify for an insurance program. Maybe Methadone programs should not be made available through Medicare. Last year alone ( 2010) the State of Maine reimbursed Medicare 60 million dollars, Lepage states that there will be a 120 million dollar shortfall in the DHHS budget for 2012,hhmm, I’m not very good at math; but half of 120 million is? I wonder how many of the 361,000 people in Maine, utilizing Medicare services, are addicts? More research needs to be done on Methadone by Medicare, and DHHS. First of all all an addict has to do is go to a clinic, say they are on such an such a drug, they take such an such an amount, and they are put on unsually a very high dose of Methadone, this dose will increase when it becomes not enough, according to the addict. If we want to continue to have Medicare pay for this maybe we need to set some rules, and guidelines for these clinics, and those people who utilize both of these services. Some common sense is all that’s needed, like they say…..” I’ts not rocket science people”. 

  • Anonymous

    You should educate yourself on how the system actually works. The expenses paid by domestic funding and funding abroad don’t begin to pay for social programs or our foreign obligations. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NQQ57LHQR4BYFHB3S6GP6JOE6U mainegurl

    i don’t see dropping METH clinic’s on here…… WE should NOT  hafta  pay for someone’s STUPIDITY… they got hooked on the crap let them figuar how to get off it.  drop these people that keep having baby’s  (to give birth cost alot now a days plus all the prenatal crap). i could go on and on but think i got my point across..

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Take your 99% self down to one of the Stinky Movement camps and see how much left wing love you find there.

    I do not think your demographic is being targeted here. SSDI recipients are already qualified for medicaid benefits.

  • Anonymous

    Good, about time!

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You are a Maine hiker and drawing SSDI. Take a hike.

  • Anonymous

    Once in Ft. Lauderdale in February years ago there were huge jellyfish that were distraught many of them having washed up on the beach. My kids were poking them with sticks when I noticed them. I told them to put all the jellyfish they could back into the water and they did. Of course I taught them how to handle giant jellyfish, but the jellyfish seemed to really know what we were doing and appreciate it. They left the beach and somehow I could feel their joy. 

    Timy, I don’t want my kids to have to poke you with a stick, but do you make up the stoopidity you spout on your own, or does someone feed it to you?

    The medical books include detailed in depth methods of making big bucks, at least the ones I studied on my way to the big bucks did. No joke, read the frriggin books, they’re free to borrow at libraries (no they don’t want to eat your brains, they aren’t on a starvation diet).

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    He knows that. He is gaming the board.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You have not been paying attention to the collapse of European socialism.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You are approving of Obama’s rest and recreation, yes?

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Work two jobs and purchase catastrophic health coverage.

  • OldWench

    Wrong.  Most of the people there are lifelong Mainers who are either from this area or another part of this state and came to this area because it’s a service center.  There are a few from out of state, but nowhere near as many as you are claiming.  The staff can’t sign people up for Mainecare, either.  Hope House is run by PCHC who provide care based on income through Quality Care.  Only caseworkers are allowed to help people sign up for things, just with paperwork and such but most people can’t see a caseworker unless they already have mainecare.  A few student interns will help with filling out applications, but they can’t turn them in or qualify anyone for anything.  People do that themselves.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Most of them do not vote.

  • OldWench

    I know most of the people there too and you are full of it.  

  • Anonymous

    Socialism in Europe and the UK did not cause  weakened  economies any more than it did in the US.  Almost every article on both the economies points to banking and financial policies run amok as the root cause of the poor economy in both the EU, the UK and the US.   

    The “socialism as destroyer of economies” is a myth being trumpeted over and over by global financial and corporate interests none of whom want to contribute to a healthy, safe, well educated population.  Such people are not as easily manipulated as a cowed, undereducated and less physically robust population. Any society is better off with a strong educational system, excellent health care for all and wages that  reflect the true value of labor.  But corporations see that as a source of revenue reduction for them. 

    Think of our own situation here in Maine.  When the paper mills were going strong and there were decent salaries with health care and pensions  people felt confident and strong.  They were sensible. They didn’t get “run over” by dopey arguments.  Now, the mills having manipulated bankruptcy laws and busted most of the unions and reduced work forces and unemployment stalks the land, people  are scared, depressed.  They lack confidence in themselves and they are easy prey for manipulation.  If someone tells them over and over again it was socialism or unions  or the poor or welfare  that did them in they are ready to believe. 

    Universal education and universal health care are essential institutions of a vibrant society.  Not economy destroying socialism.

  • Anonymous

    Your heart-wrenching tale was too tenticle for me.

  • Anonymous

    Spend your money today poooop  on the system they just bloodsuckers for money

  • Tyke

    Is a paper guy a special kind of paper doll?

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    That is right.

  • OldWench

    Now you’re going to see 65,000 Mainers getting all of their care in the ER, and since they are poor they are unlikely to pay their bills.  If each of those 65,000 people have one visit to the ER in a year (and most will have more than one) it will amount to 78,000,000 in unpaid hospital bills.  The average would be closer to twice a year, so that is $156million dollars in the higher rates for the uninsured and every cent of that uncollected money will get shifted back to people who pay for their insurance.  Better get out the vaseline, Maine.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with having some stricter regulations around these benefits. I pay over two hundred a week for health care and dental for my family.  No one comes to my rescue when every year I hear the cost is going up again. When was the last time someone on Mainecare had to pay a dime for medical care.  I pay everytime I go to a doctor even though I carry insurance.  Ticks me off to know that those that have Mainecare will leave the office without so much as a dime coming out of their pocket.  Somehow things need to be a little more fair.  If everyone paid a little maybe some people wouldn’t have to pay a lot.  So much cheating going on — why don’t they have someone looking into whether or not a person really qualifies or if they are lying to get benefits.

  • OldWench

    Yes, NH has better employee insurance offerings, but it’s not because of competition between insurance companies.  It’s because it is a WORKER’S job market there.  Maine is an employer’s job market.  In NH employers HAVE to offer good benefits to attract workers.  Heck, they were paying 14 year olds $8 an hour to start almost 10 years ago in NH to work at fast food places part time because they were so desperate for workers.  If NH employers don’t offer good benefit packages they can’t find employees.  The opposite is true in Maine, and competition between insurance companies won’t change that.

  • Anonymous

    Except that universal healthcare does not exist in China. Where do you go to get a MRI? Much that you take for granted does not happen. Need a pap smear not likely. Need other cancer screening much less likely. Healthcare is denied people from the rural areas that travel for work in the more prosperous cities without the proper documents. In fact you are not supposed to travel at all from the poorer areas. Your Chinese healthcare is a myth.

  • Anonymous

    Dental work for a painful tooth is an extraction. Need antibiotics in a rural area. Not always available. Read. Don’t you read????

  • OldWench

    I’ve lived and worked in NH and you have no clue what you are talking about.  It is NOT competition between insurance companies that make insurance more affordable there.  It is the fact that it is an EMPLOYEE’S job market there and the only competition is between employers trying to get the best employees so they offer much better benefit packages.  Employers in NH contribute more, cover more people and get better rates because almost all employers there offer insurance.

  • OldWench

    Unions are more necessary in a state like Maine where it is an Employer’s job market.  They aren’t as necessary in NH because it’s an employee’s market.

  • Anonymous

    Hospital beds per capita 3.9 US  China 2.45

    There are patients waiting in the halls and ERs in just about every US city. Including Bangor sometimes. Imagine China.

  • Anonymous

    Of the 350 million individuals worldwide infected with the hepatitis B virus (HBV), one-third reside in China.[2]

  • OldWench

    Make sure you vote in 2012 ONLY for Democrats.  It’s the only way to stop the nonsense of giving new tax breaks to the rich while taking away your Mainecare.

  • Guest

    That is interesting.

  • Anonymous

    Healthcare exists in some form for all. Just show up in the ER ever been denied?

  • Anonymous

    Lepage, you’ve had my support. I don’t want to see abuse of the system. I do believe that behavioral services for children is important, because the correct early intervention can prevent jail or worse domestic issues later in life. Mental health crisis services must be dealt with if not, you are leaving it up to the police. Do you believe they are trained to handle mental health crisis?? What is more expensive hospitalization for mental health or jail?? Mental health outpatient services or jail? These are our options. I don’t see the hospitals affording to take them on with no beds and no funding.

  • Guest

    Heck no.

  • Anonymous

    And another thing. The US gov co. controls just about every aspect of our healthcare system. Blame them.

  • Anonymous

    And it isn’t .  Most people are on welfare for an average of 3.5 years.  The idea that there are thousands of welfare cheats sucking this state dry is simply not true. 

    A lot of nonsense about welfare cheating has been published.  However, there is only one well documented, scientifically accurate  study of welfare cheating.  It was done by Orange County, California.  They found that only 10% of the families were getting more funds than they should have gotten;  of those 10% only about 3% were prosecutable fraud.  The other 7% of the families   had received so small an extra amount that the cases would have cost more to prosecute than the amount recovered.  

    The conclusion is that;  yes, there is cheating, but it is not wide spread and while it should be sternly addressed  to believe these people are ruining the economy and to obsess about it drains energy and distracts people from addressing our real problems.

  • Anonymous

    I like that Tyke. ;)

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like Bangor and 1700 methadone addicts and we have a never ending supply of social services. Whats your point?

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Dangerous and Short-Sighted could be the name of Governor LePage’s KMFDM cover band.

  • OldWench

    Due to Hippa, no, you don’t know what their issue is.  Since no one can get disability without a verifiable diagnosis of an actual disease or disorder (and an “anger issue” is not on any list) then I’m calling BS.  You’re not telling the truth.  

  • Anonymous

    The point is we spend as much as China’s GDP on healthcare and are still unable to take care of our citizens.  The problem is corruption and greed at the top.  Canadians are much healthier, as are dozens of other countries with government-healthcare.

  • Anonymous

    Are we really governed by an administration that believes that we are just going to be able to cast aside 65,000 of the most mentally ill, poor, out-to-lunch, drug addicted citizens in our State.  And that we will magically not be responsible for their care anymore?  These folks are going to flood the emergency rooms, the jails, the court rooms, the public parks, the homeless shelters and the police blotters.  It’s irresponsible of Penguin to do this, at the same time that he is purchasing toxic waste dumps to save towns with a population that’s about 5% of the number affected by these short-sighted cuts.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve misread the argument and meaning of the person you are responding to–badly.

    Take a deep breath and focus.  The US already pays more per capita for healthcare than any other country–but the system is riddled with fraud and extra layers of private-insurer bureaucracy.

  • Anonymous

    ER visits are much more expensive than non-ER or proactive medicine.  It’s inefficient and also cruel.

  • Anonymous

    LOL  Oh, right.  Leave out Canada.  It’s a successful economy and has socialized medical care.  Plus it has a great educational system and pays it’s teachers almost twice what US pays.  By all means let’s leave Canada out of this comparison.   LOL

  • Anonymous

    ER visits are much more expensive than non-ER or proactive medicine.  It’s inefficient and also cruel.

  • Anonymous

    Socialism is not collapsing.  The banking industry played fast and loose with the economy and their economies are in the same trouble as ours.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you mean private insurance controls just about every aspect (and private hospitals and health corporations and pharmaceutical companies)–except our socialist military system?

  • Anonymous

    You’re maundering and you have completely misread what Heart of Sky said.  Did you know that Forbes Magazine’s happiest countries all have nationalized healthcare?

  • Anonymous

    I am sorry you are being rudely and irrationally responded to by Cheesecake.  It’s totally inappropriate.  Obviously you struck a nerve.  Your point is excellent, by the way.

  • Anonymous

    No I am just like other working folks who are tired of paying for the deadbeats and subsidizing everyone who wants freebies.   It’s time to boot these folks off the handouts and start having them carry their weight and pay taxes like the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    You’re ranting and babbling.  Did you know that the US ranks #30 in health in the world, behind dozens of countries with socialized medicine?  The  US is the only democratic country in the world that doesn’t supply affordable access to a doctor to all citizens.

  • Anonymous

    For those that are unaware. Reading this article my interpretation, was that Lepage is asking to cut mental illness crisis services. Right now if someone is suicidal or possibly homicidal and they are taken by the police or a family member to the hospital for stablilization; a mental health crisis worker is called. Right now, it can take anywhere from 1-4 hours for that worker to get there, due to lack of workers available. If its a really busy night, that worker could be asked to drive 2 hours or more from one crisis to another. The worker will spend 30 minutes to an hour with you, asking questions and chatting. This is an evaluation; to see what your immediate needs are. Recommendation could be to see your physician tomorrow with a list of emergency #’s (safety plan). Crisis could recommend hospitalization, depending on how you arrived, it may not be an option, but blue sheeted. If the crisis worker  finds you to be an immediate danger to yourself or others, the recommendation is hospitalization. If you do not go willingly, police can step in and proceed with blue sheeting process. Crisis can also recommend stabalization unit, often offered to those that find need to cut themselves.  There are many reasons for stabalization unit and its short term. Crisis worker can also find that time has calmed you, and you now have a support person at the hospital with you and you are safe to return home, with a safety plan.

    Due to increases in mental illness, I see it very difficult to cut this area. Asking police to do the job of a mental health worker isn’t fair.  I find not funding this, is only taking a problem and putting it on the shoulders of someone else. Nothing like passing the buck. Either pay caseworkers, crisis workers, counselors and doctors. Or pay hospitals and jails for the mentally ill. Someone is going to care for these individuals; be it today or tomorrow. Or else the world is going to be a lot less safer.

  • Anonymous

    I know, weird right? I was in Bermuda at a state park and this local started pitching his frizbee to me. I kept bumping up against a Manawar when I chased the frizbee but the Manawar didn’t bother to sting me. There were a group of them hunting for sardine sized fish and slurping them down.

  • Anonymous

    How about all these companies stop shipping everything to damn China and let us work. ANd this damn Country wouldnt be in Debt!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    A physician also sees you and gives recommendations and medications as needed. This is sometimes where ER can be abused. I have noticed that doctors are now not prescribing as many phych meds in an ER visit. If you feel that you must be stabalized with meds they are forcing you into full blown impatient hospitalization into the phych ward. I’m behind this effort, due to drug abuse, unfortunately.

  • Anonymous

    ShttBull, you post mean and cruel things. Why don’t you go do what you told your mother you were going to rape and kill her, get some piano wire, tie it to the light fixture in the master bathroom and hang your MKnuymass??

  • Anonymous

    Your point is well taken. However, there’s no way you got 69 people to agree with you unless them misunderstood you. 

    What people aren’t getting is that LePage is not responsible to anybody. He mocks us, laughs at us, makes derogotory comments about us, holds regular secret meetings and lately refers unemployed people as LAZY.

  • Anonymous

    oh well . maybe now they will quit trying to label so many people in hopes of getting federal funds

  • Anonymous

    You answered my question. I’ve stopped being surprised. Say, could you do a favor and put your physical address down for me? I’m just keeping track of the loggs.

  • lzrdkng

    Baldachi (spelled wrong, sorry.) is the one to blame for out current issues. He totally destroyed this state. So many of our traditional businesses went over seas thanks to him, I saw it personally at Ansewn shoe. I left shortly after I had to sent product to the Dominican Republic.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Nope I mean the state and Federal government. You really don’t know what is in the healthcare bill, nor what the states under Democratic contol have done to healthcare, do you? Ask EMMC who has paid them back more Baldacci or Lepage?

  • Anonymous

    The point is healthcare is not denied like it is in China.

  • Anonymous

    The point is that they don’t do that.

  • Anonymous

    Associates in Office Information Systems so pretty much any secretarial position and I am working on my Bachelor’s in Health Care Administration.. So pretty much I tried to get degrees in things that I knew there were jobs in.. and guess what its been rough finding a job.. Hence the reason I settled for a part-time job because I knew I needed something..

  • Anonymous

    She/he brought up China I didn’t.> Be prepared to defend your position when you have an Apples -Oranges argument to present.

  • Anonymous

    so for all you snots who make 60 grand a year with great benefits, than you have nothing to say.  I work two jobs, and neither offer health insurance. 

  • Anonymous

    That is irrelevant to HeartofSky’s China comparison.

  • Anonymous

    Interestingly, you say “we are poor because of the braindead President we have”…and continue on with “it’s time to stop subsidizing everyone, bailing out everyone….”

    However, the U. S. Banking Bailout occurred under President George W. Bush in 2008, and in 2005 the energy bill enacted under Bush included $2.6 billion in oil company subsidies.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/04/business/04bptax.html

    Please, while shoveling on the blame for the current financial situation, keep in mind that we are still reeling from 8 years of a federal spending spree to assist the richest get richer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YUOABOU22TU7JNMPVHTBPM6TDI Brad

    Actually no, the government controls a very large portion of our health care. Said medicare and medicaid programs are run by the government but they don’t actually PAY the hospitals to begin with! My question is where exactly is this money going if not to the hospitals that give these people care? At best the government pays for 30% of what people on Medicaid and Medicare rack up at the hospitals. This is why prices are so high, because hospitals are not getting paid.

  • Anonymous

    Just making points. How healthy is a society that has 37% of their population that has  116 million people with hep B and she/you think that is a healthy society?

  • Anonymous

    Besides we have already determined that you did not know what the article meant.

  • Anonymous

    Huh?  You mean they don’t have the fraud, greed and inefficiency that bloats our system?? 

    I think China has a worse healthcare system than the US, who doesn’t? Why are you wasting so much space on it?

  • Anonymous

    19,000 people die in the US every year because they can’t afford treatment.

    45,000 homes are mortgaged every year, life savings are lost…

  • OldWench

    People without any insurance usually end up visiting the Emergency Room when they are sick and need care.  Let’s say each of those 65,000 poor folks go to the ER twice a year.  (It will be more for many people with medical issues, though)  Okay, so that is at least 130,000 hospital visits.  When a person has insurance they are charged less for these visits, especially with Mainecare, due to agreements and regulations on fee limits.  The cost for people without insurance is more.  We’ll assume that no tests, Xrays or hospitalization is required even though it will be for many.  So the low range cost will be around $1200 per basic ER visit.  Multiply 130,000 by $1200 and that will be the lowest figure for the amount the hospitals will NOT get paid in one year if those 65,000 people are booted off Mainecare.  That is $156 MILLION dollars in one year that people will NOT be able to pay.  Guess who eats that expense?  YOU DO, along with every other Mainer who pays insurance premiums.  Your costs will go WAY up.  But hey, those rich people will be able to buy a few more stocks they won’t pay capital gains taxes on and it’s clearly so crucial for you to defend those unnecessary tax cuts just because liberals don’t want them and if the liberals oppose them you are going to support them, even if it means bending over and welcoming the shafting of your life.  

  • Anonymous

    The US is the ONLY democratic country to deny children affordable access to a doctor.

  • Anonymous

    The money goes into the private sector, where massive fraud takes place.  Everyone takes a bite:  insurance, hospitals, doctors, big pharma…

    Don’t forget the revolving door between lobbyists and government officials. They trade places constantly.

  • Anonymous

    No one is comparing US health to Chinese health except you–  because you badly misread what the poster said.  Egregiously.

    Try comparing US health to Canada.  We’re way behind.  Norway, Germany, France.

    Way behind.

  • Anonymous

    The US is the ONLY democratic country to deny children affordable access to a doctor.  Does that bother you–sick children, no doctor?

  • Anonymous

    She compared China’s GDP to the amount our government spends on healthcare.

  • Anonymous

    Try comparing the US to Canada or European health–we’re way behind.

    I will pray for you–I hope you have a good night.

  • Anonymous

    Are you talking about the healthcare insurance bill that LePage fast-tracked, the one that removes premium caps on old and/or rural Mainers?

  • Anonymous

    That’s apparently what he is saying. He sounds clueless.

  • Anonymous

    Just because rich/wealthy/powerful come to America for healthcare doesn’t mean we have a good system. It is obvious you have no outside experience with national healthcare services other than Fox news.

  • Anonymous

    Odd answer, read the question again.

  • Anonymous

    This just in, “brewercitizen 1brewercitizen1 is a hater of Americans who need help with medical are, childcare, elder care so she can stay on track with her haters that pay her to be haters. We can not afford her. She is brave and responsible in many ways but here, she loses all credibility.

  • Anonymous

    we need to go on the health plan that gov. lepage has and the law makers have the one that is funded by our taxes and i wonder how much of a cut they are looking at  

  • Anonymous

    the law makers need to vote and pass health care for the people that they and the gov. lepage have. I wonder how big a cut they are looking at for themselves.It will be interesting to watch the players in this big cut to see who votes for it and who doesnt

  • weezy

    Sorry….but brewercitizen is correct.  A family next door has 3 young adults, all receiving disability for ‘anger disorder’ which prohibited them from working, making them eligible for all benefits, housing, foodstamps,  Mainecare, etc.  When President Clinton disallowed drug and alcohol addiction to be used for disability, all of our attornies simply changed the wording from addiction to ‘personality disorder’,  so that no one would lose their benefits.  If you choose to eat yourself up to 400 lbs., you can also get a disability for that. 

  • Anonymous

    My union has gotten me quite a bit of raises when my employer would love to pay everyone minimum wage. Unions protect jobs and workers by keeping greedy employers honest.

  • Anonymous

    You are making huge assumptions. Plenty of Mainers cannot afford fancy trips or fancy toys, and do not buy them. They are struggling to make ends meet–working full time or two+ part-time jobs, but earning so little that they qualify for MaineCare.

  • Anonymous

    “ It’s time they get out and get jobs ….”   how do you do that?………  Could you describe just how you do it …..  I’d like to follow your instructions on how to do that, kind sir…….

  • Anonymous

    There is no denial of access to healthcare in the US if you repeat that you will be a liar twice.

    You need to prove that one. Evidence???

  • Anonymous

    The for-profit insurance corporations ration care. Only those who can afford huge premiums can have coverage. If they become ill, the corporation can drop then–removing their insurance when they’re ill and have no energy for a fight. Nearly 50,000,000 Americans lack health care coverage under the current system. Millions more discover that their expensive coverage won’t cover their medical costs–medical costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US.

  • Anonymous

    Back off on the christian stuff. i’ll wish beelzebub on ya.

  • Anonymous

    I can read.

  • Anonymous

    Well..,But they are.  Anybody who uses social services [incomptent loser lawyers coverng the last part where no is the clear.

  • Anonymous

    I did not make the apples to oranges comparison of economies HeartofSky did and you defended it.

  • Anonymous

    Who is babbling now?

  • weezy

    Wow !  Finally someone who makes sense…thank you Zaracat.  It is so sad to see what has happened to this state.  Not that long ago we had many great paying  jobs in our paper and pulp mills, lumber industry, forestry, steel mills, counless shoe factories, woolen and textile mills, BMHI employed hundreds who cared for the mentally ill, rather than incarcerating them.  It is a shame that our youth have to leave this state and their families behind to be paid a decent wage with benefits.  If you are lucky enough to be employed, and doubly lucky to have medical insurance, you are now the minority.  Bring back our unions and our jobs !

  • Anonymous

    No I am talking about payments to hospitals for Mainecare that Baldacci did not make that LePage did. I thought you read the BDN you are here all the time.

  • Anonymous

    The people who don’t pay taxes because THEY ARE TOO POOR TO HAVE MUCH INCOME are the ones who should pay more taxes, according to Republicans, while the wealthiest 1% of the country should get tax breaks. The income of the wealthiest 1% has doubled and quadrupled over the past few years. At the expense of  working people everywhere.

  • Anonymous

    I am beginning to believe you know you know less about the healthcare system than you do about first amendment rights.
    Nearly every aspect of healthcare comes under the jurisdiction of the Federal and State governments. Right down to what can be covered by insurance companies.

  • Anonymous

    No one is planning to take ALL the money of any billionaires–please don’t fret. But they were paying 90% in taxes under Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower. Now they pay a small fraction of that. The Republican leaders’ reasoning was that if you slash taxes for millionaires and billionaires, they’ll let some of their savings trickle down to the rest of us. America will become more prosperous. That has not happened. It’s a failed policy that politicians–who are millionaires themselves–want to see continued, because it cuts their own taxes.

  • Anonymous

    The policy you seem to favor would be this: employers get to pay minimum wage (perhaps less?) and not provide health insurance for their workers.

    This will permit them to build second homes and take fancy trips and buy luxury items. The people who build their second homes and sell them jewelry and so on will gain. The business owners’ own employees will lose. This is your vision for America?

  • Anonymous

    I doubt that anyone actually runs to the doctor for a hangnail. That’s a common talking point in the conservative media, just hype.

    You are saying that anyone you consider to be overweight should not have healthcare. Also, no one you consider to be lazy should not have health care.

    The notion of a fat, lazy person with a sore hangnail who keeps seeking medical care is something called a “straw man.” It’s a phony image used by Republican leaders to trick Americans into fighting among ourselves rather than advocating for everyone.

    If and when you lose your own job, and need health insurance but can’t afford it, these same Republican leaders will be working hard to sway public opinion against YOU.

  • Anonymous

    Right wingers favor giving tax breaks to millionaires, then saying there’s no money left for health care for any non-millioniares, and trying to pit the elderly and children against desperately poor childless adults.

  • Anonymous

    Have you been following the comments on other articles? Many conservatives are arguing that no one should have unemployment insurance benefits, because there are plenty of jobs available in other states.

    Sooo… you lose your job here in Maine, dislocate your family to some other state in pursuit of a job, it falls through (or you get laid off again). Presto! You’ve just become someone the people of THAT state despise for supposedly moving there to get their welfare benefits.

  • http://twitter.com/mnkk Kathleen March

    Unthinkable, but to be expected from this administration.

  • Anonymous

    And the effect of this policy on the children is…? Wait, I forgot. Kids don’t matter to Republicans. Only tax breaks for millionaires matter.

  • Anonymous

    Those 20-something kids are finding is incredibly hard to get jobs. If mom and/or dad have managed to hang onto their own jobs, and have health insurance, I would far rather have them pay for their kids’ insurance premiums than for the kids to go without healthcare or depend on the ER.

  • Anonymous

    Back in the days of Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower, the millionaires were taxed at about 90%.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a pretty crass statement to make.

  • Anonymous

    Then they ought to start making babies pronto.

  • Anonymous

    wish i would have known that before i loped my fingers off with the woodsplitter.

  • Anonymous

    This latest idea of LePage should radically cut down Maine’s population, due to the lack of all the necessities that the  cast aside people need.

  • Anonymous

    LePage dumped a lot of money down the hungry guellets of overpaid while collar workers at the hospital that have nothing better to do than drive our costs up and preventing us from care.The Hill Burton Act is independent on any state funding. It is based on federal funding and was originally intended to care for merchant marines and such, who washed ashore but had no money to pay to be cared for. 

  • Anonymous

    What part of we are $120 MILLION in the Hole don’t you understand?

  • Anonymous

    I think the term is testicular. You know, you’re nuts.

  • http://twitter.com/aynnachailyn Jaime Bailey

    Those with disabilities will NOT be effected. Those people will still be able to have MaineCare. It mostly affects adults who do not have any kids and some parents. 

  • http://twitter.com/aynnachailyn Jaime Bailey

    The maximum amount of time parents can receive welfare is 5 years….during those 5 years they need to make an attempt to find a job and after the 5 years are up they’re expected to work. 

  • Anonymous

    The state can print money bud doesn’t. The Fed can print money and does. The deal is those little scraps of paper aren’t worth anything until we agree they do. They are no more than a means for trading goods and services. The Fed has no motivation to print more money because we’re all to stoopid to figure out that would be the way to go. I stamp out about 4 Trillion to wipe out debt, then pass usury laws like those of old Europe. 

  • http://twitter.com/aynnachailyn Jaime Bailey

    I’m on disability….on both the state level AND federal level. Not everyone IS able to work. How would you feel brewercitizen1 if you and/or your husband were disabled to the point where you couldn’t work and someone told you that you had to work in order to to get the help you needed but you aren’t able to work?

  • http://twitter.com/aynnachailyn Jaime Bailey

    FYI: People who are disabled and can’t work how are they supposed to get the insurance they need to pay for their treatments? AND if DHHS was shut down then who would we call if a child was being abused or neglected and needed to be put into foster care???? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    how dare they say maine is a healthy state 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UAPE5TBVWZ22UCNIDQUFPESQ4 Jeff

    There isn’t enough money to pay for everything the socialist democrats want, so they have to make some deep cuts.  Are you not able to understand that?

  • Anonymous

    Could you possibly be more unctuous?

  • Anonymous

    You forgot to mention how wonderful it is to live in Norway.

  • Anonymous

    If survival if the fittest applied to the human race we wouldn’t have all of this dead weight to carry around. I see it every day in my line of work, 20-30 year old’s playing the system for all it’s worth. No intention whatsoever of ever improving themselves. Demanding more and more and laughing at those of us that do work and are productive members of society.

  • Anonymous

    Mainecare is a terrible example of socialized medicine.  It is provided for about 30% of Mainers, while the rest of us pay in Maine pay directly for about half of it. (We pay the rest through our Social Security) .  People who were too lazy to complete high school, too lazy to work, and those who “work under the table”, account for many of our recipients.  Is Maine a ” welfare state”?  You bet it is; the very worst kind. It encourages cheaters and fraud and is out of control.

  • Anonymous

    “Don’t you mean private insurance controls just about every aspect”
    Wait now, occupy queen, I thought you said it was the big banks that control us…which is it?

  • Anonymous

    Or Canada

  • Anonymous

    Oh boy ! Guess it is going to be a lot busier in the ER than usual for non urgent clinic visits . Thanks Paul. Way to go. Maybe all nurses should be given a taser so we can protect ourselves from the now uninsured unmedicated psychiatric patient who will NEVER be placed because they have NO insurance. Thanks, thanks a lot . 

  • Anonymous

    oh and for you well insured puppies with the great jobs and the money, sorry about your actual emergency, your heart attack, stroke, ….. we will try and wade through the coughs and colds to get to you. You still won’t get a room though because they will all be taken up by psychiatric crisis that can’t get placement. Hmmm sounding like a great plan here .

  • Anonymous

    Maybe now some of the people that come to Maine for our great free benefits will now go to another State. I’ve heard Florida is nice this time of year.

  • Anonymous

    I have insurance…good insurance, and I have cancer.  I am now into my 7th week of waiting to get my cancer removed.  Delays for women with gynecological cancers here in Maine are atrocious.  If you looking for the care of a GYN oncologist the only service in Maine is Portland.  I would advise anyone who wants the services of a GYN oncologist to skip on out of Maine and go to Boston.   The bad thing  about my situation is that I have 5 more weeks to wait before I finally get the needed surgery for my cancer. This is not what my chosen GYN oncology practice advertise or promised.   This is worse than Canada.  The good is that my treatment will not bankrupt me and my family, because I have good insurance.   I can’t even imagine going through this with absolutely no insurance….like the 65,000 that Lepage will boot out of Mainecare.   If there ever was a need to eliminate  the huge profits for insurers, it is now. Medicare for all!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Looks like a lot of WalMart, Kmart, Target, and McDonald’s employees are going to have to show up at the ER for their health care now, instead of a doctor’s office. On demand ER health care is much, much cheaper. Now they can get to work on repealing the Hale-Burton Act. It doesn’t do any good to get everyone working for minimum wage if they are just going to turn around and tear you up with social programs and health care. All that money that is saved could be given to the top 1% in the form of a tax cut and invested in more Chinese factories to lower the wages here in the U.S. even more. This is really working out good. Please don’t do anything rash, like buy American. You will frig them up in good shape.

  • Anonymous

    I am so sorry ! This is a story I hear and see far to often. Insurance and money is not something you should have to focus on in this time.I wish you well in your fight. 

  • Anonymous

    And the silence was deafening, yet said it all.

  • Tyke

    If you divide out the projected savings over the 65,000 people who would lose coverage you will find that the state is currently paying less than $2,000 per year for each of these people.

    It won’t take many emergency room visits or major illnesses to blow that amount right out of the water.

    Also it has clearly been shown that cutting bacl mental health services leads to increased jail costs. We are obligated by federal law to pay for health care for all inmates.

    The potential costs that will arise from the proposed cut to mental illness crisis services for at risk children are astronomical as many of these kids end up hospitalized or in the youth center.

    This proposal not only hurts people, it has increased costs to taxpayers written all over it.

  • Anonymous

    Oh really.  Then why can unemployed people can buy insurance 40 to 50% cheaper than we buy it in Maine.  Since when do employers offer benefits to former workers?  It’s because of competition.  

  • Anonymous

    Corporate greed unions hate it !

  • Dixie Redmond

    “More money would be saved by reducing behavioral health services for children, dropping payments to some hospitals and limiting mental illness crisis services.”

  • Anonymous

    DIRIGO, our state moto, means we lead.  I can see that LePage is trying to follow the rest of the country.  Just because it doesn’t fit financially doesn’t mean it isn’t right morally.  Where is this nation headed on our social and moral obligations?

  • Anonymous

    Granted that fiscal responsibility is a important, the present governor ran on a platform to be job creator in chief, which to date had been lackluster and more reactive than pro active, well now that that has failed to raise revenues, Paulie goes after the poor and needy to find his needed money.

  • Anonymous

    Already done and started a year ago. How about you?

  • Anonymous

    Is this the kind of rhetoric that solves problems for America?   I can’t see how saying something like that helps anyone.  Email bravery.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    So you are saying 600 people received a tax cut of $176,667 each?  Have you the facts to back that up?

  • Anonymous

    “Childless adults will be hardest hit”. How does this encourage a poor, single, childless adult, working a part-time minimum wage job, NOT to have children? Have a child. Then you’ll get Maine Care, free education, maybe even a new laptop & cellphone…..This applies to either parent who assumes custody of the child, not just women! This backwards thinking encourages the very thing that most posters here object to. Why not help out those who are helping themselves, working, trying to educate themselves, not having children out of wedlock (or without the $ to support them)? Until this country smartens up, takes out the middle man of for-profit insurance companies, and goes to a one payer system, the poor will not receive the same medical care as the rich. All of these folks who are going to be denied Maine Care are still going to go to the hospital for care. Those costs will still be passed on to the rest of us. A hospital cannot afford to give care to people who can’t pay, yet they Must Give Care! Yet now they’ll have to give the care and not be reimbursed. Great plan LePage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    The part of that Hole that came from Tax breaks for the Whealthy and for the Inheritance babies trust funds!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    You dont suppose they pay 40 % of the Tax because they have more than 40 % of the whealth do you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Abled body adults should be “able” to  expect a wage that would afford them health care! 

  • Anonymous

    I see your point, we have the best procedures, but not a good system. 

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the benefits of Communism; more of the same to come…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    65,000 MaineCare recipients to lose health coverage under LePage plan

    Thats what you get when you hire a Surplus and Salvage Store Manager!

  • Anonymous

    I might be wrong but I think Obamas campagin was financed by the medical population, such as insurance companies. So the medical field needs to dump their cost on things by a lot 75% would be about right. 
    Like $10,000.00 an hour in a recovery room and $1200.00 a month for 30 pills, nothing says “ we want you to die” more clearly than that. Have you noticed there doesn’t seem to be any real cures since antibotics were “invented”. It’s all “managed care” at a criminial expense, great suffering until you die, if you can afford it.
    LaPage bullies people and Obama is with threats of fining people who can’t afford insurance.
     I agree that if you are going to be a “public servant” then you get paid according to your position. Min. wage, nearly useless insurance, play the 401k plan.
    Maybe the US should have” we aren’t going to work” until all politicans pay and benefits are reduced as well as medical cost..

  • Anonymous

    My sister runs a business and seems to have a soft spot for those with a hard luck story. She seems to hire people looking for a second (or third and maybe a fourth) chance, those that have made poor decisions in life and are probably the ones that will be impacted by this proposal by Lepage.  I can safely say that 75% of those she hires are some of the worst employees she has. They have a poor work ethic, are always late, are the least productive and cause her the most headaches.  They seem to have an attitude after a short time that “I can always fall back on the system” Most of that 75% have problems with drug use, theft and always have some sort of drama or issue that prevents them from being to work on time or showing up at all. They are the first to complain about what shift they have to work as it interferes with their social plans. They (not all) steal from her either in merchandise or cash outright. I for the life of me cannot figure how their minds work, they come apply for a job and cry a sob story about how they have changed and soon are back to the habits that have sabotaged them all along. If the system allows them to continue to make poor decisions with no real consequences than the cycle will never change. Those that are truly trying to get back on track should be assisted and encouraged. Those that are not doing anything to make their situations better need some tough love and need a nudge(maybe a good hard push) out of the nest and told it is now time to fly on your own.

  • Anonymous

    I get so sick and tired of people who see a few people abusing the system labeling all beneficiary’s on assistance as abusers as well. I too, hate working my butt off and for most of my life have worked two jobs and see others recieve benefits that I couldn’t afford. It maddens me to see others set back while I work. However, there are many people who lose their jobs and fall seriously ill. (been there done that and didn’t qualify for help. That was a slap in the face after proudly working very hard for all my life. I became hospitalized three times. However, because I was a single adult, I didn’t qualify .. even at a zero income, seems there wasn’t funding for my category.) Most employers do not offer affordable medical insurance. That’s a fact. Another fact is that there are many single moms out there working jobs at minimum wage and trying to raise their children on those wages entirely, because the father of their children are dead beat dads. Should they pay their child support, mom wouldn’t need as much assistance.  What about the thousands of people that are working under the table and collecting food stamps, fuel assistance, and medical? Why aren’t they being challenged? There has to be a balance, but it shouldn’t come at the expense of those who the systems are created for. And being a single adult shouldn’t be a precursor for determining eligibility. It’s unfair.  I wish people would stop blaming parties, stop blaming who’s in office and get their heads out of the sand and come up with some viable solutions instead of feeding their egos by shooting off their mouths. I am now healthy, gainfully employed and grateful for my life. But it hasn’t stopped me from remembering those who truly need this help, those who will fall between the cracks and not get the medical help they not only need but deserve. There are people that NEED this service, and in trying to eliminate those who take unfair advantage of this program, if the state is not careful, we very easily could be harming someone innocent. There, but for the grace of God go I. I hope the government and the people of Maine will not lose sight of the purpose of the program, and find ways to get those off the system without making a blanket category and cutting people who truly need the help. We have some really progressive people in our state. There has to be a way for us to come together and come up with some solutions instead of having our morning coffee, reading the BDN and spouting off.  I mean no offense to anyone, most of all those who truly feel helpless already and hearing these proposals will feel even more defeated and filled with overwhelming fear. The fear should be felt by those who are deliberately abusing the system, but we don’t have a check and balance system. Arrogance, hostility and lack of compassion prevents all of us from fulfilling our roles in this life. It’s not all about us”, its about others too. I’m happy to pay my taxes and help, because it means I am healthy and have a job. IT may bite at times, but nothing bites harder than being sick and not being able to have assistance and treated less than, because someone else is living off of drug money and claiming zero income.

  • Pamela 058

    I know there is a lot getting medical attention giving to people on drugs and YOU should take this from them but don’t let the elderly and the really disabled pay for someone else’s mistakes…come on..I blame the people who OK giving this out so freely which is within..

  • Anonymous

    I think brewercitizen1 has a valid point.  I doubt that bc1 would want folks who are disabled or elderly to not receive Maine Health care.  As a liberal guy, there are some realities all of us have to face and this may be one of them.  Personally I believe that like offering basic education we should pool our resources and offer basic health care.  

  • Anonymous

    That was an incredible ignorant thing to say.

  • Anonymous

    Envy, envy, envy. Not a good thing.

  • Tyke

    The evolution of the amount by which Lepage under funded his DHHS budget is quite the moving target.

    In
    just a couple of weeks time it has gone from “around $30 million”, to
    “maybe as high as $50 million”, to “probably over $70 million”, to “at
    most $170 million” … and now we are supposed to believe that, yup it’s
    really $220 million (for now).

    So the question this leaves us
    with is: do you think this total lack of fiscal understanding and/or
    changing “message” denotes incompetence or dishonesty?

    It was
    apparent when he put the budget in that he was intentionally
    underfunding areas he wanted to implement “forced” cuts in later, but by
    how much? Did he really give his infamous $200 tax cut knowing full
    well that he would then be “forced” to cut that amount from helping the
    most vulnerable?

    Or is this “astute businesses man” just really that incredibly incompetent?

  • Anonymous

    I’m with you. This is all part of New World Order, the government is trying to get people dependant on them, people won’t bite the hand that feeds them. Those of us who work and are losing a 1/3rd pf our pay and more actually with property tax, sales tax and excise tax, dog taxes, licenses.
    Now LePage wants to kill off  literally the very people who have financially supported high taxes, welfare and the governments loose spending.
     Your correct people are fighting amongst themselves, rather than at the source, which has been done in the course of history forever,  manipulation is their game, give people a free ride at the expense of others and a small war will be created and then the government steps in and “fixes” everything. by putting their foot down on everyones neck. I think people should turn on the trouble makers.

  • Anonymous

    We need to dump “them”.

  • Douglas Watts

    I like that this story is under the “Health & Fitness” banner. Jesus is the Reason for the Season!

  • Anonymous

    Where we are headed, is bankruptcy if something is not done to shrink the size and scope of taxpayer funded social programs. Do us all a favor and put forth your solution to keep the system as a whole from collapsing, if there is not some sort of cuts.

  • Anonymous

    This system was a scam.  You have patients and heath care providers abusing this policy. 

  • Anonymous

    We have tried so many different aspects for healthcare. The only solution is heathcare for everyone. Our tax dollars are paying for medicade, mainecare  HMO”s are in business to make money. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m living in Africa right now and I thank the arbiter of the void every day that my home is the USA.  Tragically, if you listen to sprucedweller (most egregious example) and many others who post here, the US is an appalling place to live.  Thousands dying in the streets from a lack of health care and millions more living in destitution after losing everything to corporations and insurance companies.  Ravaged by a parasitic plutocracy, sucked dry by the 1%, and generally living in a state of victimhood and exploitation.  

    There’s a tree outside my office here in Luanda where a family of indigents live.  They cook in cast iron pots over an open fire and they sleep on crude benches.  They receive no help from the Angolan government whatsoever.  No general assistance, no health care, and no computer with an internet connection.

    I would give a year’s salary to see some of those who so unrelentingly condemn life in the US spend a month underneath that tree.

  • Anonymous

    Raising revenue will keep us from bankruptcy. Raise taxes on the 1%. not cut social programs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    I have a Big Problem with Greed!

    Although,I have no Pride,

    I have everything that I want and need.

    Pride?

    I have no need for it.

    For it is the deadliest of the Seven Sins!

  • Anonymous

    About time. I am glad you used the word leadership, as the State has been without any for the previous eight years.

  • Anonymous

    You would benefit from a single-payer plan.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t that what they have done?

    As long as I have mine I don’t care what happens to them

  • Anonymous

    Or….This was program was proposed and enacted  with  fraudulent numbers  and pipe dream projections, with full knowledge that  this day would come.  Typical liberal tactic. Lie about the numbers  of your feel good program, then  demand the money to pay for it once the truth is exposed  and  people are dependent on it. Oh, then blame the folks who  are trying to fix the problem, the same ones how  tried to tell  you this was going to happen from the  onset.

  • http://profiles.google.com/retired04497 Mike Kiernan

    Whether anyone likes it or not, public option is coming. LePage, whether he knows it or not, is pushing Maine into it with this move. And the sooner that the State Legislature figures it out the better off everyone will be. P/O is going to reduce costs, expand coverage and improve both the delivery of care and simplify the paperwork process, which is already a huge portion of the current healthcare cost crisis.Why everyone wants to scream ‘Chicken Little’ when this is discussed is still beyond me.

  • Anonymous

    They do go to those places so they can get treatments we won’t allow.

    And they come here for the help we give others for free

  • Anonymous

    If LePage does this, How will Walmart provide health care for it’s employees?

  • Anonymous

    I bet the Governor isnt loosing his health insurance !!!  How do you take away from those people you have already given it to !! Well , I CERTIANLY HOPE THEY ARE TAKING AWAY FROM THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO THE METHADONE CLINICS FIRST !! SHOULD WE PAY FOR THERE F-ING HABIT !! THEN PAY THEM MILEAGE TO GET THERE — WHAT A JOKE !!  mAKE THEM WALK AND PAY FOR THERE HABIT SEE HOW LONG THEY WANT TO DO IT !! HOW MANY SAMOLIS HAVE MAINECARE ?? I BET MOST OF THEM WITH SECTION 8 HOUSING AND FOOD STAMPS !! THEN THEY FLY BACK  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    headin north……..YOU are way OFF base. I work and don’t have healt hcare and surely wouldn’t qualify for Mainecare. So YOU can get off your high horse of thinking that your supporting people that don’t have healthcare!! I pay as I use the healthcare system and YOU surely haven’t sent me a check lately.  In my opinion……..those that work full time should make enough money to NOT qualify for any type of assistance. If they do qualify………it means that they aren’t making a livable wage and are probably employed by someone that is exibiting corporate GREED.

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely right, but the GOP has so much money that they are paying the media to attack the poor to keep the limelight off all the tax breaks etc that the rich are getting.

  • Anonymous

    what is unthinkable is that the administration is seen as the bad guy because the oh so wealthy state of Maine can no longer afford to give free healthcare to thousands who, in most other states, would not have qualified.  Oh the nerve.

  • Anonymous

    Sad.  It is this mindset that has ruined America.  Very Sad. Instead of being proud, you should be ashamed.

  • Anonymous

    It’s called compassion. I have NEVER had one penny of assistance. I have NO healthcare. I pay as needed BUT I don’t beleive in the RICH stealing from the working class so that we become the poor class. I have never had a tax break etc. I continue to have the rich steal from my 401k and they are also not contributing their share of taxes to social services to feed those that weren’t so lucky to be born with the same IQ as myself. COMPASSION

  • Anonymous

    Greedy insurance/pharmaceutical companies.

  • Anonymous

    amen!!

  • Anonymous

    People choose not to be able to afford health insurance.

  • Anonymous

    There are many who scam the system to get Maincare. I know couples who make over $70k a year and we still give them free healthcare because they have kids? I pay for my own, I would expect everyone should be responsible enough to do the same.

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