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LePage: State can’t afford MaineCare for childless adults

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Gov. Paul LePage
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Gov. Paul LePage

AUGUSTA, Maine — Legislative leaders are expected to be presented Tuesday with Gov. Paul LePage’s supplemental budget for the Department of Health and Human Services that addresses an estimated $121 million shortfall.

While the specifics of that budget are still unknown, details have emerged, including some from the governor himself.

In his weekly radio address on Saturday, LePage said that the state can no longer afford to allow low-income adults without children to enroll in Medicaid.

Since 2002, when that provision was created, the number of childless adults, or noncategoricals, in Medicaid has grown from less than 3,000 to nearly 19,000. If that category is eliminated, it could save the state $40 million over two years.

“People who fall into this category have no [dependent] children in the home, are not pregnant and are not disabled,” LePage said. “Maine is one of only 15 states that offer this benefit. Basically, this is free health care for 19,000 Mainers … The fact is — we can no longer afford it.”

Another area under consideration is lowering the Medicaid eligibility threshold in Maine from 200 percent of poverty level to 150 percent or even 133 percent, which is in line with a majority of other states. It’s not clear how much money that would save.

Still another option is eliminating some of the services offered under MaineCare, the state’s Medicaid program, including dental. Should the state have to pay for dental care for low-income Mainers when many working people who have health insurance do not have dental care covered by their employers?

During a recent meeting with members of the Bangor Daily News’ editorial department, DHHS Commissioner Mary Mayhew acknowledged the enormity of the fiscal reality facing her department and said Medicaid would likely bear the brunt of cuts.

LePage agreed during his radio address.

“We spend more on Medicaid per person than the national average. We have continually increased Medicaid eligibility at a higher rate than the national average,” he said. “Total spending, state and federal, on Medicaid has increased by over $1 billion in 10 years; a 45 percent increase, but it’s still not enough. Maine’s population on Medicaid is 35 percent above the national average.”

Whether any other areas of DHHS could see cuts is unclear. Gov. LePage has supported other cost-cutting options at DHHS in the past, including various types of welfare reform.

During discussion of the $6.1 billion biennial budget that passed in June, the governor recommended reducing the amount of general assistance the state passes to cities and towns. That provision was stripped after leaders in Maine’s largest communities — Portland, Bangor and Lewiston — said the cuts would disproportionately affect them.

General assistance cuts could well be back on the table, but the governor stressed Saturday that he would protect the state’s safety net for the elderly, the disabled and children.

Rep. Peggy Rotundo of Lewiston, lead Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, said Monday she still doesn’t have a strong grasp of the DHHS shortfall.

“I’m still concerned about the numbers coming from DHHS; they are soft numbers that have not been fully substantiated and I’m concerned about making any decisions until we have a clear sense of the numbers,” she said.

The governor made another thing clear in his weekly radio address: His background is in business and he intends to run the state like a business. That means being decisive even when the decisions are going to face criticism.

“No administration wants to take away anything from anyone, but at the same time, as policymakers, we have to be held accountable for our spending and refrain from gimmicks to get us by,” LePage said. “No question, tough decisions will have to be made. But then again, that’s why I signed up for the job.”

The governor recently threatened to cut funding to education if lawmakers did not support cuts to MaineCare and other welfare programs.

Once lawmakers received the DHHS supplemental budget, the window of time appears small for the details to be worked through.

Next week, there will be public hearings on the specific cuts. The following week, members of the Appropriations Committee and the Health and Human Services Committee will conduct work sessions on the budget bill.

Adrienne Bennett, the governor’s spokeswoman, said Monday that the administration’s goal is to have the budget passed early in the Legislature’s 2nd regular session that convenes on Jan. 4. Every month the state waits, she said, costs tens of millions of dollars.

If the governor wants the budget to go into effect immediately, though, it would need to pass through the Legislature in emergency fashion. That means a two-thirds majority would need to support it, meaning some Democrats would have to get on board.

It’s likely that once Gov. LePage deals with DHHS, he will introduce another supplemental budget that addresses the rest of state government. Some Democrats already have expressed concerns about passing a supplemental DHHS budget in such a vacuum.

“I’ve heard about some of the programs he’s thinking about cutting and I have reservations about rejecting policies that were voted on in a bipartisan way,” Rotundo said. “We need to look at cuts in a comprehensive way.”

BDN reporter Jackie Farwell contributed to this story.

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  • Anonymous

    Just like my house, we can only spend what we earn. The State of Maine (and the Fed) needs to run the same way.

    Tough choices ahead.

  • Anonymous

    How many elderly Mainers will this affect? 
    Talk about your death panels… LePage, Mayhew, MHPC , ALEC and Ann Robinson, getting the talking points from Koch Bros. Helluva team. 

  • Anonymous

    I would think that if DHHS is deeply in the red, then the first place to look for cuts is in the DHHS programs, not in other areas that have nothing to do with the root cause of the problem.

  • Anonymous

    Maine’s healthcare model is just scratching the surface of the issues Obamacare will face. This is going to get ugly.

  • Anonymous

    Great way to articulate the plan, LePage. Once you get the boot, all you need is 9 months and you’re back on!

  • Anonymous

    I would doubt that there are any democrat politicans in this state that would ever vote to cut any entitlement programs. For them the public pocket is never empty. They need to realize that their failed policies of the last forty years have bankrupted this state and spending must be cut.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, the Lepage administration cannot explain how, why or where DHHS programs are in the red, nor can they explain why or how the deficit jumped from $70 million to $120 million +. It just did, and we’re expected to take their word for it, apparently.

  • asportsfan

    I can understand cutting benefits from those who could work, but what about the elderly who cannot work and cannot afford health care because their retirement benefits have been cut?

  • Jollyroger

    Just like the GOP: “Let ‘em die.” Wow. WWJD?

  • Anonymous

    I know this is off subject, and I am not trying to make a joke or smart comment, but is Governor LePage well? Over the weekend I was looking back at some pictures of Governor LePage going back to before he was elected Governor and I couldn’t help but notice what I feel is a drastic change in his appearance. It is very apparent that he has gained a considerable amount of weight but that isn’t what concerns me. It is the puffiness around the eyes that seems to have started to show up in recent pictures of Governor LePage that I find troublesome.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-White/1508030373 Christopher White

    Great! Balance the budget by eliminating health care for low income Mainers. What a wonderful and compassionate notion. “Just like at my house, we can only spend what we earn …” and, even though it is a “tough choice” if Cousin Fred isn’t pulling his own weight (what with the PTSD and all) I guess the best thing to do is set him out beside the highway and hope for the best. Either he’ll freeze to death or maybe get a ride from a trucker heading south where he won’t be a burden to us any longer.

    It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas …

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

      Lepage stole  candy from younger defensless children as a child and benefits from the Poor and Destitute as a governor.
     
    You are right about failed policies,

    Nothing has changed for him in forty years!

  • Anonymous

    Things have been ugly for a long time.  Hopefully, the new healthcare law will solve the major problems that exist now.

  • Anonymous

    All those elderly slackers…. They must be stopped…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    The problem is the State can earn MUCH more if they tax those who are making a killing keeping the working poor downtrodden!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    This State cant afford {Lepage}!

  • OldWench

    There’s 19,000 more Mainers who won’t be voting for any Republicans again.

  • Guest

    The federal government will continue to PROVIDE foreign aid. Something is truly wrong with this.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Where did all the money go?

    Tax Breaks for Inheritance Babies!

  • tag

    Keep up the good work, Gov! Our “bystander-in-chief” could learn a lot from you about leadership and making  difficult decisions. The answer to every problem is not always “tax the rich”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

    LEPAGE KEEPS GOING AFTER WORKING PEOPLE

    many low income adults WITH NO CHILDREN work
    now lepage wants to stamp them out

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    States cant go bankrupt!

    There is NO provision for that in the constitution!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VANZLIHKQPPLZPYRZHKFC3MDTM Kim

    They’re talking about giving MaineCare to inmates but the working class don’t deserve it huh? Nice.

  • Guest

    Yes, however it is a little more complicated than that. Singles are at a disadvantage. Most making low wages plus only one bread winner to pay the rent, utilities, etc. They are so screwed.

  • Anonymous

    This has really just awakened me to how bad things are getting. And I’m sorry but lepage is a fool if he cuts those benefits.

  • Anonymous

    Merry Christmas!!!!

  • OldWench

    This will actually affect a lot of older Mainers who have chronic illnesses but no insurance, and aren’t quite old enough for Medicare.  Most of these people work but can’t access insurance.  

  • Anonymous

    now….now…..

    (On another note….there must be something missing from this article. No one in their right mind or with any humanity whatsoever could ever believe that this person would cut healthcare for elderly people (whose children are grown, or who never had children.) Then again, nothing is out of the realm of heresy with this guy.)

  • Anonymous

    One way or the other the state will pay

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VANZLIHKQPPLZPYRZHKFC3MDTM Kim

    Keep dreaming and it just might. :)

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you are right. For a very long time. This is not an issue that has just emerged in the past few years.

  • OldWench

    It solves nothing without a public option.  That’s the only thing that will drive prices down. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VANZLIHKQPPLZPYRZHKFC3MDTM Kim

    Yup drinking heavily will do that. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OPAW6MFKY2SIYUQYNRYFVIR3V4 Retiree

    If the supporters of the free medicaid doesn’t want to stop the program, will the add me to the program? I am from Maine, I have worked all my life in Maine, I have allways paid taxes in Maine and now I am retired and pay over $800 a month for my insurance. I sure could use some of that FREE insurance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Thats what happens to ticks once they have attached to a host and start a feeding frenzy!

  • tag

    No elderly will be affected. They are covered by Mainecare/Medicare, not Medicaid. Medicaid was meant to cover young mothers, the disabled  and those working age people who are unable to provide for themselves. It was not supposed to cover those who are lazy or who have made poor life decisions.

  • OldWench

    The Tea Party Republican Party doesn’t care about Mainers.  They never have.  Democrats have their flaws, and plenty of them, but at least they actually care about people who are struggling and don’t want to just toss them overboard and watch them drown while calling them names as they sink.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    For those who object to this, please submit your proposals for closing the $120M budget gap.

  • Anonymous

    Time to get busy- you have about nine months.

  • Anonymous

    Elderly get Medicare. Different system.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    I know that Mr. LePage is a heavy smoker and that he even smokes in his office in the State House. I wasn’t aware he had a drinking problem.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

    THERE ARE MANY LOW INCOME ADULTS THAT AVOIDED HAVING CHILDREN because they knew they could not afford them……now lepage is going to give them the boot for good behavior

  • Anonymous

    Medicare is for elderly. Medicaid is for the poor. Not the same thing…

  • Anonymous

    Can’t afford a Democrat or an Independent either if they don’t have a way to close the deficit, no one can win ultimately

  • Anonymous

    No now ….now…. needed I was being serious. He , to me, doesn’t look well.

  • OldWench

    Um…Mainecare IS Maine’s medicaid…and YES, it WILL affect a great deal of elderly people who are not old enough for Medicare.  Many of these people have chronic illnesses that require medication to actually stay alive.  But hey, it doesn’t affect you, so why should you care?  

  • Anonymous

    Out of the 19,000 people he kicks off health care, within a year or so about 500. will be dead ! Wonder it their family’s can charge the Governor with murder?

  • Anonymous

    Fine, but States CAN default on their debt. Not an appealing prospect. Maine does not want to be the Greece of the USA…

  • Anonymous

    MaineCare is Medicaid. There aren’t 2 seperate kinds of coverage. The state of Maine decided to call it MaineCare to avoid stigma. The only people currently eligible for MaineCare are people with children under 18 or people who are disabled and meet low income criteria.

  • Anonymous

    The answer will be “tax the rich” of course. That’s always the answer…LOL

  • OldWench

    It will only end up costing more in the long run.  People still get sick and still need health care.  Without insurance the cost of treating those 19,000 poor people who can’t pay their medical bills will fall upon everyone who does pay their own insurance.  Prepare yourselves for the biggest rate hikes you’ve ever seen.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a lose-lose situation for him publicity wise, if he cuts the people out people will be angry if he doesn’t do anything and allows for a greater deficit people will be angry, if he cuts from another part of the budget people will be angry.  No one wants to leave people out to dry but all roads lead to someone getting the short straw right now.

  • Anonymous

    I might not object if the majority of these childless adults were not elderly Medicare recipients.  Why not take business owners out of this equation and while we are at it, how about matching up residential addresses for mothers and fathers of children on Mainecare.  I know of a few baby-daddy business owners not married to the mommy and the mommy gets Mainecare for the child(ren) because they have a different PO Box than Daddy…..HELLO!  Let’s punish the people who are ABUSING the system and leave the legitimate ones alone.  I think DHS workers need to take a little more due diligence and care in signing people up for Mainecare – do a little investigative work in the field – might require a couple of phone calls and maybe even an unannounced drive to the residence periodically….better yet, interview the children to find out where daddy really sleeps.

  • Anonymous

    Well, if you retired before you were eligible for Medicare, that’s your choice, right? Count yourself fortunate you could retire before you’re 70. I’ve checked my 401k: looks like I’m working until I’m at least 72. I like my job, though…

  • Guest

    ignorant statement

  • OldWench

    Most of the people who get this work minimum wage jobs, have no savings and can barely afford to avoid being homeless.  They can’t even think about saving for retirement because they have to struggle just to keep their electricity on.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

    go into a walmart,look at all the females with infants and babies
    YOU KNOW could not afford the $6000 hospital costs JUST TO
    hav the infants

    30 welfare babies are born every day in the state of maine:
    no one wants to challenge that welfare money problem

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I keep forgetting that. The progressive liberal solution will always involve confiscation of somebody’s else’s wealth.

  • Anonymous

    I would be more concerned with the individuals that keep having children who cannot afford them.

  • Anonymous

    Where do you come up with the idea that Maine was even close to defaulting on the State’s Debt? Mr. Poliquin has come out and told us that the State’s credit rating is fine. Which is an excellent indicator that Maine is no where near default as you would like us to believe.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Low income adults who do not have children can work a second job or work to improve their economic station. Two low income people working two jobs are no longer low income people.

  • Anonymous

    And “rich” needs to be in its own set of quotation marks. To make any impact on the budget of this state, “rich” will be interpreted to include everyone making something like $80K.

  • Anonymous

    Lovely, Im already getting dangerously close to not being able to afford it. Its time for a universal system, cut unneeded programs and start putting as much into healthcare and medical research as we do our military, do that and our civilization would flourish.

  • Guest

    Amazing how we can not post bull s….. on here but look at the context of that article.

  • Anonymous

    The average recipient of the program is mid-twenties, male, and behind on his child support.
    They can pay their own damn doctor bills.

  • OldWench

    1. Stop freaking wasting money going on bogus witch hunts looking for fraud that doesn’t exist.

    2. Don’t do things to intentionally anger people and provoke them to file lawsuits that must be defended against, like taking down and hiding murals.

    3. Don’t create jobs for your daughter.

    4. Get rid of the governor’s mansion and make him use his wages to pay for his expenses just like everyone else.

    5.  Make powerful republican politicians who committed fraud pay back what he stole.

    6. Cut the pay of politicians.  Make them pay for their insurance like everyone else. 

    7. Stop constantly giving tax breaks to those who don’t need them.

    That would be a good start.

  • Guest

    Shouldn’t that be against the law to smoke in that office/building?

  • Anonymous

    I was simply commenting on the actual alternative to bankruptcy.

    But if Maine can’t balance it’s budget, eventually we’ll go the way of Greece. Austerity measures are required…

  • Anonymous

    I assume you’re referring to HR3962…aka Obamcare.  In the over 2000 pages in Obamacare , which section has convinced you that the major problems that exist now will be resolved by Hr3962?  I would like to go to that section and read it for myself.

    In the meantime, there is one resolution I can share with you now, as Sebelius and Berwick have informed the neurosurgeons of America thus far.

    Anyone over 70 yrs of age will be given comfort care.  (surgical procedures will be denied by an IPAB board in D.C.) and  we will be required to attend ”end of life” lectures every 2 years. Oh BTW… the over 70 crowd will be referred to as “units’, instead of human beings, by the Independent Payment Advisory Board in Washington D.C. (Kathleen Sebelius and Donald Berwick are setting up these boards as we speak)

    And here we children of the 60′s paid heed to advice from the surgeons general and our physicians….quit smoking, took it easy on the alcohol, ate healthier and took up exercising so we could…..ahem……live longer. If we would have known that “the Government” would not keep its promises to us (the joke’s on us…we should have known)  then we should have kept on smoking, drinking, and eating twinkies and fast food. Because we changed our bad habits,  it all adds up to us living past 70 years of age. OH OH…..now what are you going to do with us? Well, now we know, if Obamacare is allowed to be fully inplemented by 2014. 

    Obama, Pelosi and Reid came up with a brutal and merciless plan (HR3200  aka Obamacare) to deal with all the baby boomers retiring in this decade. We all get the shaft under Obamacare if we make it past 70. We all get to hear strangers (bureaucrats) impressing on us the “You’ve had a good life, don’t you agree seminar” and it is now time to check out ASAP in order to apply government monies to more deserving segments of the population. From now until that checkout time, we “units” will be well supplied with plenty of pain meds. 

    How do you like them apples…..as the resolution for us ”units” who make it past 70 years of age?  O Happy Day….when Pelosi and cohorts rammed this atrocity down our throats.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I agree. As long as someone is healthy and able to work, there is no reason they cannot continue to work. If they choose to retire early, then the burden of being prepared for that should be upon themselves and not the rest of us. As long as I am healthy I am going to work until at least age 70

  • Anonymous

    I’d guess the increased expenses are largely due to increased enrollment due to the economy combined with increased medical costs. 

  • Anonymous

    These Clinics that take mainecare patients bill the state 125.00 per visit and they are treated like piece work one problem at a time, and they keep going back 2 times a week.  Let’s all do the math on this folks  .. you have these clinics that are milking the system

  • Anonymous

    Kired, why are you trying to skewer the liberal posters with common sense, anyway? You know that is a waste of time.  Tax increases…that’s the answer!

  • Anonymous

    But these are all Republicans runing these clinics  so nothing will change 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    Occupy Uteri

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    1. How much would be saved by shutting down audit services for HHS?
    2. No savings to the State there.
    3. Somebody else would have the job. No savings there.
    4. Might be a little bit of money to gain, not much however everyone else in government are not paying their expenses related to government work.
    5. There is no evidence that there is a dime to be recovered based on your libelous charges.
    6.  Not much money there with regard to the State. Most people only pay a portion of their insurance coverage (30% average) unless you are a public union member and its likely you pay zero percent. There are no savings significant here.
    7. What tax breaks and who doesn’t need them?

    That is a pretty poor start. It sounds like more of the confiscate the wealth of others routine that doesn’t at all address my inquiry. Lets try it again with concrete replies.

    For those who object to this, please submit your proposals for closing the $120M budget gap.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know what LePage means by the catch-all term ‘Mainecare’, exactly.

    Elderly and disabled low-income adults often have their Medicare A/B/D premiums paid by the standard State contracted (Medicaid/Mainecare) ‘premium buy-in programs’ in partnership with a few different insurance companies through AARP.

    As far as I can tell, that program will not be affected.

    No doubt, there is a certain group of ‘childless adults’, right there, who would obviously need to alerted if something major, as that would be, is changing for 2012.

    Stay tuned.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    A low income couple earning minimum wage in Maine could double their income to $62,400/yr by working two minimum wage jobs each. Since they have no children, they have the time. If they are not predisposed to working hard to better their conditions, they could consider education and skills training that might allow them to earn a significantly higher income or they could move to where there are better employment opportunities.

    You lose.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure drug abusers will still get their great benefits.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Obama has already taken care of that problem, or so the liberals tell us, starting in 2014.

  • Anonymous

    He is right.  We cannot afford it.   We spend well over the national average and are one of the poorer states.   This does not make sense.    When we were growing up few had insurance and we got along just fine for the most part?   What has changed so drastically in this country?

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Who are these Republicans that are running these clinics and forcing patients to come back 2 times a week? Names please.

  • Anonymous

    How would you feel if Mr. LePage took back the $106 million tax cut he just gave to Maine’s wealthiest citizens?

  • Anonymous

    How about repealing the $106 million tax cut that was enacted for our state’s wealthiest I am sure you would support that right?

  • Anonymous

    Since emergency rooms can not turn anyone away in need, those adults cut from the program will use the emergency room for their needs and that cost will be pased on  mostly to those with health insurance or government sponsored programs.  The problem does not go away.  Someone esel eats it.  

  • Anonymous

    If we had single payer, universal health care like the rest of the civilized world this would not be a problem: everybody would be covered and it would cost taxpayers less.  Somebody tell me what is wrong with that?

  • Anonymous

    That is what we now call a factually challenged statement. We used to call it a lie.

  • Anonymous

    In the article, the Governor said it would not be cut for adults who are disabled.

  • Anonymous

    Ho! Ho! Ho…!

  • Anonymous

    He was saying elderly people are covered by MEDICARE…not Mainecare.

  • tag

    Sorry, semantics. You seem to understand the point. At what age do you consider someone to be elderly but unable to qualify for Medicare?

    You are wrong about it not affecting me. It affects me every time I have to pay taxes to provide for those of you who made poor life decisions, didn’t take care of yourselves and didn’t work hard enough to succeed in life.

  • Anonymous

    That is a sweeping generalization.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget the U.S. government; who made all the thoughtless decisions; that made America poor!

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I would not support raising taxes on anybody to close budget gaps. This comes back to what I already stated below. The progressive liberal solution will always involve confiscation of somebody’s else’s wealth.

  • Anonymous

    And cutting down on funding for women’s reproductive clinics,  factual sex education and easily available contraceptives for women has been a really smart move.  Equally smart has been allowing pharmacists to restrict   contraceptives, emergency contraception or day after pill based on the grounds of moral indignation.  If you voted for making access to birth control and abortion difficult or impossible you don’t get to complain about an increase in unintended pregnancies. 

  • Anonymous

    And $31,200 is not bad in Maine for a single person. Paying for health insurance out of pocket IS a burden, though, and I do think we need to address this as a society. Medicaid is not the answer, though. Government programs are always a bad solution.

  • Guest

    Wow. Comfort care only? Either you are actively misleading people or ignorant.

  • Anonymous

    Maine cannot afford LePAGE…. Unelect HIM……

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest as it didn’t apply to me, though i bet it would bother those that benefited from it.

  • Anonymous

    This is a good point. I don’t know enough about Obamacare (who does) to know if it will be an effective fix. I do know that people in countries with universal coverage will get “premium” or “supplemental” plans when they can.

  • Anonymous

    Are there really people making a “killing” in Maine?  If it’s such a good racket here, why aren’t more businesses flocking here?

  • Anonymous

    What?!? The State House allows smoking in the offices? Are you sure about that?

  • Nichole Stevens

    Yep, because Nutting didn’t defraud the state by price gouging then declare bankruptcy after it became clear thus not paying back the 1.2 million he got paid.

  • Anonymous

    And there is the problem with everything you and your tea party friends say. You want to make it about winning and losing as if it is a game to you.  Fair minded individuals understand that it is in way to many cases about life and death. The more I read your post on here the more I am starting to believe the congressman from Florida when he said that the republicans do have a healthcare plan. ……..Don’t get sick.  And if you do get sick die quickly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Christopher.Blackwell1945 Christopher Blackwell

    As LePage and so many politicians in the legislature are worried about costs, I am sure we will be hearing about them cutting their own benefits and salaries, right? Why not? They are willing to cut things for everyone else, why not share the pain with the rest of the people?

    Of course I would suggest the same for our people in Congress and President Obama. Perhaps citizens should demand it of them. Want to solve Medicare, Make congress use it as their only Medicare. Want to solve social Security allow congress to only have it to depend on for retirement

    I think the problem is that we have far too many rich politicians who are completely out of touch with what the average citizen has to deal with. Make them live in our world and their attitude would change very quickly. Get rid of the free perks, cut back  on both pay and benefits, Stop making going to congress as a quick way to become a millionaire.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    One of the logical solutions to insurance coverage is catastrophic insurance. It has a high deductible and protects against financial ruin. Bankruptcies due to medical costs are generally caused by high catastrophic costs and it is unfortunate because such coverage is rather cheap. There should also be a much greater effort placed on preventative care. Lowering blood pressure and cholesterol while encouraging weight loss and fitness is worth far more benefit dollars to the public than mandated insurance costs. There are a lot of things that could be done to improve the system overall but the efforts should be providing best cost coverage to those people who actually need t rather than ripping the entire system part. It works for 85% of the country.

  • Anonymous

    Medicaid does not exist any longer. It is now Mainecare!!!! Not everyone who has insurance through their employer has it made. Some local employers have insurance with a $5000. deductible yearly. 
    No Mainecare for the poor will effect everyone. I have health insurance that I pay a hugh premium for weekly yet if I have a procedure done my insurance is billed more then Mainecare and other insurances for the same procedure.
    Does anyone really believe that Medicare pays everything for the elderly? DOES NOT HAPPEN!!!
    Seems to me that in November there was a statement posted here that said ” my employer has 3 jobs available” BUT ” the people applying aren’t worth hiring.”  Perhaps everyone would be much better off if they were not so judgmental and give some people a chance. Maybe one of these “worthless” people could turn out to be the best employee in the company.
    Unless you lived it you have no idea how bad it is and it is certainly compounded by such narrow minded pompous egotistical people who believe their poop does not stink.  Bet I could find lots of skeletons in their closets if I looked. Bet someone in their family has had to rely on “welfare” at some point.

  • Anonymous

    So many people are making a living off Mainecare/Medicaid benefits.  That’s not right and it’s real.  There are third and fourth generations living off the benefits.  I agree, I can only spend what I earn AFTER bills are paid.  My feeling is, NO child under age 18 should ever have to want for medical, dental or eye care.  It should be a given if you don’t have insurance that child can still be treated.  It’s not their fault they were brought into this world. 

  • Anonymous

    And it affects you every time the wealthy get another tax break but I don’t see you complaining about that.

  • Anonymous

    How about you take care of your Cousin Fred?? If we each took care of our own this might be a better place to live……Just a thought.

  • Anonymous

    You didn’t ask for proposals you could support you only asked for proposals. I am sure you were all for cutting taxes for the wealthiest of our citizens and paying for that tax cut on the backs of the less fortunate. 

  • Anonymous

    What expenses are you referring to, exactly? Even the Lepage administration can’t tell us what they are.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I made the silly assumption that a progressive liberal would not fall back on the only trick he knows, to confiscate somebody else’s wealth. I should have qualified my inquiry.

  • Anonymous

    Great answer.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Prove it in court.

  • Anonymous

    This is an absolutely cruel and non-compassionate act by a governor who just cut taxes on the rich.

    We live in a Banana Republic now, with rich riding around on lear jets and the rest of us sliding into utter poverty, unable to afford a doctor.  Welcome to 3rd world demographics.

    Just in time for Christmas, too. What a guy.

    http://bangordailynews.com/2011/08/28/business/maines-rockefeller-country-home-values-make-the-rich-richer/

  • Anonymous

    Should of left the insurance companys out, but once again the insurance companys bought Washington DC. Meanwhile; John Bohner is out buying insurance company stocks. I just can’t believe that these totally corrupted politicians, who blatently continue to destroy Americas economy are not in prison where they belong. 

  • Anonymous

    Looks like bullying is a pattern for him.

  • Anonymous

    How about they pay their fair share instead of the middle class supporting everyone.

  • Anonymous

    LePage: State can’t afford MaineCare for childless adults
    Thats it childless young adults rip off them condems … you heard the Gov. you got to have kids to get the mulla…

  • Anonymous

    That doesn’t make any sense :/

  • Anonymous

    How could it possibly cost the taxpayers less with everyone covered? Makes no sense to me. I lived in a country with universal health care. My income tax rate was 37% and then I also paid a sales tax of 17% on everything I purchased. Like a house or car or food…you name it.
    So anyone who tells you that they are going to spend billions to improve something BUT aren’t going to raise your taxes is certainly taking some medication that the tax payers are probably paying for.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, let’s cut back on LePage’s and his wife’s health benefits as well. Only fair….they don’t have kids at home, do they?!

  • Anonymous

    I seem to remember the republicans telling us all about the dangers of “voter fraud” when none really existed. Hmmmmmmmm?? I wonder if they might be doing it again? We all have heard over and over how LePage appointed only the best and brightest to his cabinet. I wonder why they can’t tell us why the DHHS budget is in the red?

  • Anonymous

    He makes more sense than LePage does.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, no cost savings. So, what is the point???

  • Anonymous

    Alcohol does that to people

  • Anonymous

    We are living in troubling times.  I am willing to cut back and conserve where ever necessary.
    One place I feel should fall under scrutiny is government spending.  We are cutting benefits to the elderly, Maine Care, our school budget.  I sincerely ask Governor LePage, our Senators and Representative as public servants.. Can you say that your working as servants for the general public, or how many are self-serving in their roles.  Where have you been asked to take a salary cut, have you been made to answer for your spending budgets.. And can you honestly say there is no money wasted in our Maine Government?   

  • Anonymous

    LePage is already a fool. His Latest——, bull……..shit, BULLSHIT
    Oh my god. what a jerk.
    Thanks, one more nail in the republican coffin.
    Always love it when they hand the mike to Paul  lol

  • Anonymous

    Yes, because we all know this (mis)administration would never invent new numbers to suit their purpose.  And if anyone believes that, my bridge in Brooklyn is still for sale.

  • Anonymous

    The meaning of my post is that the state cannot maintain its spending level as there is not enough money to pay out versus what’s coming in

  • Anonymous

    God I love doing this. I hate to bust your bubble but I am far from as you put it “a progressive liberal”. I have been a registered republican since 1967. Keep on with the radical right talking points I am sure we are all getting a kick out of it.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to burst your little bubble but HR3200 never was passed.   The final bill was HR3962 and you sound like you were listening to Fox when they started saying there would be death panels, which was an out and out lie. 
    I suggest you go to http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/ and read about all the lies contained in an E-mail.  
    Please try to educate yourself before such rants as your post.

  • Anonymous

    Not ignorant, exactly right in way to many cases.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly.  And this latest LP effort is just another example of the shell games he likes to play.

  • Anonymous

    Does that mean that we can now refer to him as “Governor Bullshit”?

  • Anonymous

    “Just like my house, we can only spend what we earn.”

    So is your solution to take an oath not to increase your income, like the conservative GOTea  Congressman ? 

  • Anonymous

    Oh wow. Has to get rid of all that stress, huh?!

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Not by much.

  • Anonymous

    The message must be “procreate and prosper.”

  • Anonymous

    What exactly do people expect?   It is very sad and tough that it has come to this but it has to be done.  If our State and Federal Government continue to spend at their current levels it will be a lot more than a few people losing benefits…It will be EVERYONE.   Democrats are starting to sound and act like Unions.  Unions are choking and putting business’s under with ridiculous pay demands.  Dem’s are killing this country with ridiculous benefits and spending.

  • Anonymous

    It comes naturally to him.

  • Anonymous

    Ok-Let’s keep it simple:  ship LePew back to Canada.  Funny-until he came along, this was a pretty darned good state.

  • Anonymous

    “Since 2002, when that provision was created, the number of childless adults, or noncategoricals, in Medicaid has grown from less than 3,000 to nearly 19,000.” 

    I wonder how many of those are among the 17,000 who are going to loose their unemployment benefits next week, too ? 

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Maine has been in an economic decline for the past 40 years. How will the end of the LePage administration improve Maine’s economy, specifically with regard to heath care coverage?

  • Anonymous

    What if cousin Fred does not have PTSD?  What if he weighs 500lbs and used his foodstamps to buy hoho’s.(seasonal)Is he still entitled.

  • Anonymous

    I never said it was allowed did I. I just said I knew it was being done. 

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Being liberal has nothing to do with being Democrat or Republican. Your comments on taxing the wealthy and your disregard of those who are members of the “tea party” pretty much put you right in the same camp with the progressive liberals.

    You are not a Republican.Your comment: The more I read your post on here the more I am starting to believe the congressman from Florida when he said that the republicans do have a healthcare plan. ……..Don’t get sick. And if you do get sick die quickly.

  • luvGSD

    Why “childless adults”?  Why not just adults?

  • Anonymous

    What if cousin Fred has a girlfriend with 4 kids that are his and he won’t get married and risk his girl losing her montly?

  • Anonymous

    No-it’s what was always known as “the truth.”  They are the most self-centered lot I’ve ever seen.

  • Anonymous

    There are lots of Fred’s out there cheating the taxpayers out of billions.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad that LePage is cleaning house.  Someone has to start somewhere. I am so sick of seeing some of the younger generation getting a free ride. I work full time and  I have to pay dearly for my medical and dental and my coverage is nothing to write home about (Aetna). I hope this does not effect the elderly that need help. 

  • Anonymous

    As they say, “Give him enough rope…”

  • Anonymous

    Wow. King Paul gets to do whatever he wants, I guess. How about cocktails at noon? Sounds like a scene out of Mad Men, except for the morbidly obese lead actor (he’s no Don Draper)…

  • chris reid

    Merry Christmas!!!… Can you imagine “The Christmas Carol” with lepage as Mr Scrooge…LOL …The Cratchits and Tiny Tim would be toast. After all Bob Cratchit had a minimum paying job. LOL..”.Bah Humbug lepage”

  • Anonymous

    I did everything they told me to do. Worked hard, received good grades, went to college and finished a degree. The economy tanked and I become the victim of company downsizing. Unemployed with tens of thousands in school debt. I listened when they said abusing drugs and having children too young would close doors of opportunity, guess they were wrong!

  • Anonymous

    If you don’t understand  that single payer insurance would eliminate the huge profits of the private health insurance industry  and that the  standardization of single payer insurance would eliminate much of the administrative costs of private insurers you  haven’t been reading the current literature on health insurance.

    If you think having the uninsured use the emergency room for regular health care isn’t costing you money right now you have not been reading the business pages of the newspaper.

  • Anonymous

    Its three card Monty followed by a bad soft-shoe routine, no point, just the game their running.

  • Anonymous

    By your definition of republican Lincoln wouldn’t be allowed to be in the party, probably Margaret Chase Smith and Reagan as well. Unlike the current day impostors who claim to be republicans Lincoln , Smith and Reagan knew how to think for themselves rather then parroting the drivel that was provided to them by “talking heads”. I only suggested repealing the $106 million tax break for the wealthy and you launched into your name calling rant. And very good you can not only spew the talking points but you can cut and paste as well. Good job.

  • Anonymous

    Of course you didn’t expect anything more altruistic, did you 4mermainer?  I mean, remember the source, here…the “it’s-all-about-me-party.”

  • Anonymous

    Remember they’re looking for cheap labor. If you can’t find any, breed it!

  • Anonymous

    Well he certainly should have to pay a deductible for being unhealthy. If my BMI is over 25, I have to pay extra for my insurance. Also if I smoke, have high cholesterol, blood pressure, blood sugar, etc. I can only get the money back with active health-improving activities.

    The state should look into this. If private companies are going this way, it must save $$.

  • tag

    If you did the research you would learn that ”they” are not all all like Warren Buffett. Most of those who you would consider “rich” actually do pay their “fair share”. Per the IRS, the top 1% pays 37% of total Fed Income Taxes and the top 5% pays 58%.  Since the poor don’t pay Fed Income taxes, I would argue that the remaining 42% of taxes is paid by the middle class. But I agree that the middle class pays too much. Everyone who pays does.

    By the way, 37% is more than the % of net worth of the top 1% and it is almost double the % of income of the top 1%. http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Even your language is “progressive liberal” …. repealing tax breaks for the wealthy. You have been outed.

  • Anonymous

    The federal government and the state pay 1.24 billion to provide 100% healthcare for 400,000  people in Maine. That works out to a little over $3000.00 per year per person. Mr Lepage is talking about saving a little over $1000.00 a person per year by denying single young poor people health coverage. As tax-payers, we pay insurance premiums for teachers, policemen, municipal, county, and state employees like Mr Lepage, his daughter, and all of these part-time legislators, at a rate of well over $7000.00 for individuals and 15,000 or more for family care. This coverage has deductibles and limits, and most of these employees don’t have a lot of the systemic health problems that poor people do. Individuals like myself have to go out to the marketplace and end up with some crappy high deductible major medical plan that will keep my house in the family should I get cancer at 500 to 800 a month.  I know the state’s  elected officials have taken huge contributions from the health insurance companies and the teachers union gets a big kickback from Anthem.  I know how important it is that the tax-payers pay for those golf tournaments, TV commercials and executive bonuses ( I see Anthem/Wellpoint’s CEO got paid $13,100,000 in 2009), but maybe if the taxpayer’s could buy into Mainecare, we could balance the budget. Also, do the trolls here and  Mr. Lepage think this 20 million goes out in checks to poor people so they can buy plasma TV’s? It goes to hospitals and healthcare providers (jobs) and places like Washington County may not have any hospitals if these cuts go through.

  • Anonymous

    More like “I’ve got mine , screw everyone else” party

  • Anonymous

    yes they can

  • Anonymous

    I thought it was early 20s females with apartments that havent been cleaned in ever, screaming kid somewhere, and daily trips to walmat to buy the latest diet pills? 

  • Anonymous

    No, hophead2, it’s not necessarily a choice.  Some had to take early retirement in order to care for an ill family member.  And when you do the math, that family-provided home care saves the state a ton of money because the  ill person is kept out of a nursing home, the bill for which the state would have probably had to pay for anyway.

  • Anonymous

    The Republican plan to cut the deficit:

    Don’t raise revenue.

    Just cut poor peoples healthcare.

    And if they get sick and/or die-

    well, it was their fault for being poor in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    Er……………………from what I understand there is still a LePage child living with Mr. and Mrs LePage. Do you think the State of Maine should at least charge her room and board?

  • Anonymous

    Here is the problem. An insured household includes a monthly insurance premium in its budget. Then one of the members of the household needs surgery or a test, and the insurance company pays for it, right? Wrong. They find an excuse to deny payment, and then nickel and dime you with deductibles and co-pays. They may even raise your premium if you make too many claims. Meanwhile, the CEO and administrators are pocketing millions. We need legislation limiting, or eliminating, the discretion of insurance companies to deny claims. Otherwise, what are we paying our premiums for? To further enrich the CEOs? These are not job creators, folks, they are the cause of suffering for millions of working Americans.

  • Anonymous

    Who were the beneficiaries of the LePage tax cuts if it wasn’t the wealthy? It sure as hell wasn’t the guy or gal punching a time clock. Oh and by the way you might want to pay more attention to what I post. I said wealthiest not wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    It only means that hospitals and doctors will see the charity care and  bad debts columns grow faster than the Mainecare column. 

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    The beneficiaries are those who pay taxes. Please define “wealthiest” and how you determined that they received $106M in tax cuts.

  • Anonymous

    False choice.  The spending came from mostly republicans.  There is a record you can check yourself at the US treasury website.  The solutions we are presented with are all one variety or another of ways to further enrich the already wealthy and to give up on caring for our own citizens.

    There are other ways out of this mess.  They are not discussed because the media has been bought up by the same ones who have benefited every step of the way to where we find ourselves.  Democracy is almost destroyed now.  The corporations have taken our congress and now they are overtly coming for our votes.  They have are taking hostage the programs we have paid for with OUR labor.  If the treasury can stand behind the banks and offer $8 trillion in reserves for default as we now know they did in 2008, there is plenty to feed and care for our own.

    Stop the lies.  Don’t believe the media.  We are losing the last of what made us great, our shared commitment to one another.  The goal of the powerful is to get us to fight with each other so we don’t notice their accumulation of power and wealth.

  • Anonymous

    According to the US department of Labor,  in 2010 6.9% of private sector employees were union members.

  • Anonymous

    There are a lot of reasons why it will cost less.  There are no efficiencies now as there is no incentives for them.  By implementing electronic medical records, we would save as much as 20% of total costs right there.  It is a false choice that we can either have good care or cover everyone.  If we covered everyone in a system that rewards efficiency instead of passing inefficiency on to the consumer, we would have better outcomes, lower costs and more people covered.

    These issues are complex.  If you trust others to tell you what is best for you, you will only hear what is best for them.  Insurance companies have doubled down on misinforming you so they can continue to make the easy money that never demands the hard work of being efficient or acting ethically.

    You owe it to yourself and your family to do your own research on this and stop believing the big lie machine in your living room.

  • Anonymous

    Comfort care and pain meds. Palliative is the word used in Obamacare.    I am not misleading people and I’m not ignorant. What I tell you is the truth.  My daughter also refuses to believe what I tell her about rationing to come for 70 years old and older. It is something she and many younger people can’t wrap their brains around. She comforts me by saying, Oh Mom, the country would never allow that!  She has no clue that by the time she will be able to say, “OMG, my mother tried to tell me” it will be too late to undo the monster. Washington bureaucrats (IPAB Panels) will be controlling those decisions, not “we the people.”  IPAB: Independent Payment Advisory Board

  • Anonymous

    So people with HIV/AIDS who are mostly childless adults should lose access to the meds that fight the disease in your judgement.

    You should realize that public health is a game where there are consequences.  If you stop paying for childless adults with HIV, their disease is no longer under control.  That means instead of being a very low transmission risk, they are a very high risk.

    To have this short sighted view of public health is to doom the next generation to coping with problems we could have solved but left to fester.  It is not only immoral, it is fiscally idiotic.

  • Guest

    It’s truly scary how you have been taken in by propaganda.  

    And it’s truly awful that people have generated that propaganda that has scared you for their own political purposes.

  • Anonymous

    “But if” says it all hophead

  • Anonymous

    Makes sense to me.  We cannot afford the governor who keeps giving tax breaks to the wealthy when people are struggling from a banker created problem they did not create.

    If he would have held the line on the tax rate until the economy stabilized, we would have enough to care for our people.

    We are basically saying the one’s who have been fortunate enough to prosper should enjoy life even more, while we leave the poor to die.

  • Anonymous

    No LIEpage, the state can’t afford to have “pharmacists” like ROBert Nutting (your current ROBthePUBLICan speaker of the state house), ripping off Mainecare to the tune of millions of dollars…

  • Anonymous

    There are standards of care.  If you are high functioning and don’t need close supervision, the state will not pay for more visits.  Every condition has standards of care.  This is the case management model.

    Clinics are only billing what they are permitted to bill based on decisions by a combination of fiscal analysts and medical care specialists.  The costs have skyrocketed because the bankers in this country went crazy gambling with our money and left many unemployed who still have health care needs.

    Place the blame where it belongs and deal in facts.

  • Anonymous

    I will call this a lie! (and not a very well thought out one at that)

  • Guest

    Talk about Discrimination!!!!! A person without a child is less of a person than one who does??? am I reading this article right???  This soooo takes me bak to my chemo days…The American Red Cross tells you all in their commercials that they help “everyone”….but what they neglect to say is they only help those who are on Welfare…I needed rides back and fourth every week for bloodwork but they came right out and told me that it is only for women who are on welfare..like their Cancer is /was more significant than mine…..And you wonder where people like me get an asttitude???  What about the childless people who have had Maine Care that has kept them alive and now you are taking it away? The funeral Homes in this state must be standing inpatiently by the phone because business is looking good…..

  • Guest

    And……….even being disabled does not give you a check in this state…Their new thing is telling all of us that we didnt work enough in ourlifetime to obtain it…..even if one worked 33 years out of 47…it is not enough…so be very aware of what your goverment is telling/lying to you and what the actual truth is….

  • Anonymous

    The governor is just following orders from his monied backers.  The plan is simply to continue to shift income to the wealthy through an unending stream of tax cuts that affect the wealthy.  On the other side, there will be cut after cut on things that affect the rest of us:  health care services, consumer protection, environmental stewardship, public safety, education and public health.

    If you want to see what the next couple of years agenda will look like, visit the ALEC website.  Model legislation has already been written and delivered to our reps.  They will just keep taking and bleeding the society dry.  These laws were written by corporations and for corporations.  The governor does not even need to be a human anymore.  Any robot that can be programmed to cut taxes for the rich and take that from the collective hides of the citizenry will accomplish the same agenda.

    By this time next year you will read of stories of your neighbors who died from treatable illness because they lacked access to care.  These are real lives being affected here and people will die for these cuts.  Budgets are indeed moral documents.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You also know how to step back and edit your comments after they were replied to.  Margaret Chase Smith campaigned for Barry Goldwater. You seem to be exposing yourself with every post. A common talking point among progressive liberals and RINOs is to claim that somehow, conservatives like Reagan were actually liberal and in tune with the progressive ideals of today’s Statist liberals. It is nothing short of a lie. I am a Buckley-Goldwater conservative and an admirer of Mrs. Smith as well as Reagan. Each was opposed to excessive taxation and recognized the free market economy as the best there is of sustained liberty and economic growth. I don’t need to listen to “talking heads” for my discussion points. I have lived on both sides of the political spectrum and I smelled your deception  from the moment you claimed to be a Republican.

  • Anonymous

    oh, you mean tax the legislators who help to poor become poorer through infantile dependency? great idea!

  • Anonymous

    Keep up the good work Governor Lepage!  Tough choice to make, but fraud and abuse must be stopped from recipients to providers.

  • DonHorchKingofMen

    Maybe the answer is to  reevaluate the criteria.Young men who put their houses and cars and toys in their mothers names and then claim poverty.There are so many of those.I think its a shame that the message this sends is that unless you squirt out a baby or two,you are not worth public health assistance.Thats wrong.There are lots of people looking for jobs,hire a few to track these potential offenders down,nail them and make them pay it back.Ill bet if they put a bounty on them,ala ‘Operation Game Thief’,the fraud would stop and people who REALLY need help could get it…

  • Anonymous

    Do I understand if I’m a healthy male, I can go on medicaid soon as I’m disabled. If I’m female and want to get covered by medicaid, I get pregnant and I get coverage. I know the system is broken and I have no answer but all I see is coverage for healthy people, who want to work, being taken away. Medical testing that is not needed is the largest cost factor. Medical,also, will never be a perfect science. Just another Augusta band aid fixes.

  • Anonymous

    I followed the same path.  They were not wrong about what choices would make us stronger and more productive.  They were wrong that we would be able to take care of ourselves if we did these things.  Today, many who have done the “right” things have lost their jobs and been unable to find another that pays as well.  Many are taking low wage jobs and supplementing with food stamps and heat assistance.  That is not their fault.  They are continuing to make the best choices for the situation they are in.

    The problem is that we no longer have government that works for us, it works to protect those who have already made their fortunes and ignores our plight entirely.  Unwilling to move on job creation they know more people will need these vital services.  Tax cuts provide cover for immoral decisions about how we care for our neighbors.  If you are going to preach personally accountability instead of any kind of shared bond that built this country, it is wrong to do so when so many are without work.

  • DonHorchKingofMen

    AND they put their houses and toys in mumma’s name so they dont own anything…

  • DonHorchKingofMen

    I know a guy who OWNS a garage,but its in his mummies name,so he  gets Maine care…

  • DonHorchKingofMen

    I dont know.I see a lot of ciggys being smoked at what,6bux a pack? the latest phones,tattoos{how much do they cost anyway?} on these indigent poor folks.Yeah,its a free country,but if you spend your money on crap.dont expect those of us who work and pay taxes to pay your bills,and the bills of your often disabled babies..

  • Anonymous

    Wow now I am a liar who changes his post just so it can make you look bad? I hate to break this to you, but you’re looking bad has nothing to do with my post. You can do that all by yourself.  You just can’t live without calling names. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and don’t forget the Republicans and tea party folks who applauded that remark a few months ago.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You edited your posts for whatever reason suited you. It does not matter to me other than to offset it with your snide remark about “cutting and pasting”.
    There is a fine line between being a deceiver or a liar albeit precipitously thin.

  • Anonymous

    My bubble is not little and you can’t burst it.  I don’t listen to FOX News. I might if I could afford the cable package.  I have no problem with Obamacare being called HR3962. It doesn’t change the language in the monster. It  is still a  grotesque and brutal ruse perpetrated on “We the People” under any number you want to call it.
     
    When Obamacare is fully implemented (2014)…as patients over 70 (referred to as “units”) come into the ER, if a surgeon determines surgery is indicated and the “unit” is on government supported care, that “unit” will receive comfort care only. If a surgeon can’t contain himself (to heal and do no harm) he will have to wait for the IPAB to convene (they are not made up of physicians) they’re made of administrators, to decide whether that  patient should receive more than comfort care.  At 2 or 3 in the morning in an ER, a surgeon will actually have to wait for an ethics panel to convene before he performs life-saving surgery on seniors (70 and older)  In the meantime…..comfort care.

    We all know a passage of 24..48..72 hours (like a week-end) will usher that senior (unit) into that corner where that pesky dark figure awaits them. What a plan….what a plan, I tell you. Rationing and refusal of expensive medical procedures will certianly “cure” the millions of baby boomers soon to hit the winter of their lives.

    BTW…..I will be sure to use the HR#3962 from here on out as I warn the unbelievers what’s coming down the road…unless SCOTUS rules this monstrosity unconstitutional.

  • Anonymous

    It’s Social Darwinism…survival of the “fittest”. They are back in the time of dinosaurs.

  • Anonymous

    Oh yes siree. You nailed it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    But Maine can afford welfare babies…….then for their welfare babies….then their welfare babies……then their welfare babies……then their welfare babies……then their welfare babies….

  • Anonymous

    Oh, you’d better believe it! That’s the WHOLE POINT!

  • Anonymous

    They may work but how many hours a week is the question!  If they are working full time I can’t believe the company they are working for is not offering health care.  That is standard for the majority of companies in this state.   I know many people who claim they work and oh they do 20 hours a week, just enough so that they say they work but they still can collect welfare.   All of these “working people” i know are fully capable of working a 40 hour work week.  They just choose not to. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

  • Anonymous

    You see so much of that on here. It is a deliberate ploy. They attempt to rile and put another on the defensive. They don’t know how that comes across online but it sure does. It almost is cringe-worthy.

    (and then some laugh, or have some demented sense of humor.  I love to laugh, don’t you?, and do often, but there are lots of things and situations to laugh at that don’t demean and denigrate others. That is a whole other kind of “humor.”)

  • Anonymous

    Still entitled. If you object to paying, then you are ‘small-minded’ or ‘mean’ or ‘selfish’.

  • Anonymous

    I hope you know I completely agree. No one ever said it would be a breeze and I don’t want anything for free. I want to put my time in but it feels like I’ve been left behind by the american dream. Looking around at all these people who made bad choices and they are living better then me. Sitting here, a thirty year old man, searching for work and commenting on a news paper message board. I’m starting to feel like Michael Douglas’ character in “Falling Down”.

  • Anonymous

    “You have been outed.”  Omgosh!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well, Well, I am 72 and on Social Security and Medicare, and Mainecare picks up what medicare doesn’t,  He wants to take that away from me…….He wants to see all the older people get sick and die.

  • Anonymous

    “People before Politics”, didn’t you know??!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    if you voted for lepage and regret it   …click “like”

  • Anonymous

    How is that “People before Politics” thingy working for you??!  (now that was such an authentic slogan, wasn’t it…..)

  • Anonymous

    Oh yeah, still entitled. Hey, if Fred buys 10 cases of bottled water and gets carpel tunnel in his wrist from pouring it all out so he can cash in the empties to buy smokes, is he STILL entitled? Yep; suck it up taxpayers! You don’t want to be called MEAN, do ya?

  • Anonymous

    Good one!  Unfortunately I can picture it…..a very rotund Mr Scrooge!

  • Anonymous

    Oh my….he might take offense!

  • Anonymous

    Replying to you is really a waste of time. You are going to spew whatever bull you feel you have to inorder to make yourself feel better. I didn’t not alter, change, edit any of my post. You can believe whatever it is you want to delude yourself into believing. 

  • Anonymous

    The insurance companies have been milking it for a very long. They have had plenty of time and opportunity to mend their self serving ways but never have, and never will.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, the one with the $41,000 job.  [Just kidding you Lynne 14]

  • Anonymous

    lets “decrease the surplus population” right?

  • NayaBlues

    We have a right to healthcare and food and education and a home and a job. That’s what the government is there for.

  • Anonymous

    Yep I’ve been outed. And by someone who we have all come to know, knows-it-all. Just like Santa can tell who is naughty or nice . That poster can tell if you are in the closest, a liberal, a progressive, a progressive liberal, a democrat, republican my goodness the poster knows everything. I sure hope I don’t get coal in my stocking this year.

  • Anonymous

    The point is that ER visits are extremely expensive! Better to be seen at a PCP for that sore throat.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Parachute into any shopping Mall in America and you will not be able to identify what City you are in!

    Those are the buisnesses that I am talking about!

    The Big Box Stores!

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Stupid comment. Unsubstantiated, exaggerated, simplistic, untrue.

  • Anonymous

    “ His background is in business and he intends to run the state like a business.”

    So did he stick out signs and hide murals while operating these businesses? To which I will leave nameless to protect the unfortunate…..that’s not running a business…

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Granting $100 million in tax cuts to about 600 of the wealthiest families in Maine through modification of the estate tax and then claiming $129 million are needed in program cuts to the least able to afford them is typical of a thoughtless ideologue.

    I’m sure we’ll get tons of jobs out of that ignorance… oh, that’s right, jobs aren’t the point.

    Oh, and a little fun fact to brighten your day:

    According to 2010 census data one in three Americans are poor or are near poor, that’s 100 million Americans. Thank the elite’s legislative and economic agenda… it is called, Beggar thy Neighbor.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    State Oversight of the insurance Industry!

     We had that!

    Then the Republicans opened the Flood gates for the Insurance Companies!

  • Anonymous

    Then next time the vote for factual sex ed, cheap and available contraceptives for women, abortion, emergency contraceptives and Planned Parenthood comes up  be sure and vote FOR them instead of against them. All of these things have proven over and over again to cut down on the unplanned pregnancies you are complaining about.   If you don’t vote for them then don’t complain about the welfare costs of these babies.

  • Guest

    The Fed? You mean the non federal “federal” bank that runs the country? The same one that raises and lowers interest rates at will and manipulates deflation? The same institution responsible for our current economic state? Prints fiat currency?
    The very same bank that our govt fought for a century? 

    “tough choices ahead” how about make some informed choices. Like ending the federal reserve!! You want to end this? Well, end the fed!!

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    The fraud and abuse is in the sort of thinking you just displayed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    TAKE MORE IN!

    The Rich have made RECORD profits in the Last Ten years with the lowest Tax rates in History!

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Educate yourself. LePage’s ALEC based, out of state agenda has nothing to do with what is best for Maine people. You are being played like a fiddle to think LePage has your interests in mind.

  • Anonymous

    in my post the “Fed” was meant to mean the Federal Gov’t.

    I do agree that one of our biggest problems is the Federal Reserve. Never audited in 90+ years of existance? Trillion dollar secret loans?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, thanks, I am well aware of that. You are right. The point was, too, that if people are taken off MaineCare they will end up at the ER, sending healthcare costs up for everyone. It is not the solution (including not cost effective.)

  • Anonymous

    Who do you know in the younger generation that likes being on handouts.  All the younger generation kids I know are desperate for jobs, any jobs.  I know a lot of well educated 22 year olds that are working at minimum wage jobs while they keep looking for a job that makes use of their real talents.  Quit knocking the”younger generation” .  They are a lot more responsible than you think they are.

  • Anonymous

    I suppose your answer would be to tax the last few remaining business’s right out of the state, my question to you is this , without private sector jobs who will supply the tax revenue to support all the free medical, dental and welfare to healthy able Maine residents ?  There’s a lot of us working folks getting sore backs from carrying these people who have never paid into the system, why should they when its just given to them?

  • luvGSD

    Well msally of course you know exactly what is wrong with that.  It would mean that American citizens could no longer be considered “profit centers” by health insurers, and our corporate masters won’t allow it.

  • Anonymous

    the three generations of welfare

  • Anonymous

    Unions are such a tiny part of today’s economy that there is no way they are “choking ” the economy.  There isn’t anything left to choke out of the middle  and working class, which is the class of people unions represent.  Try looking at the wealthy and big corporations when seeking “chokers”.  For some reason they have an unerring ability to find just one more penny to choke out of the middle and working classes.

  • Anonymous

    Stories of neighbors who died from a treatable illness or froze to death. A not very pleasant looking future is it?

  • Anonymous

    That is what I mean, you can circumvent the system, only in so many ways….auditors have ways of finding truths on paper…or not.  The Welfare Task Force should be looking into these things and leaving the elderly alone – the elderly are suffering enough under the reign of crooked governement, corporate greed and total lack of respect from politicians…they are only not freezing to death this winter because of beautiful people like Stephen King and our mild winter so far.  The focus needs to shift away from program cuts that could hurt our elderly…no matter what the program is and more should be done to catch the abusers.

  • Anonymous

    You are missing my point. We, as citizens of Maine, need to insist that the State spend only what it has in revenues and stop borrowing to meet the budget, i.e. bond issues. I do not disagree that the current tax code is most beneficial for those at higher income levels.

    Bankers love deficit spending ……

    Interest on the national debt: The federal government must make regular interest payments on the money it has borrowed to finance past deficits — that is, on the national debt held by the public, which reached $9 trillion by the end of fiscal 2010. In 2010, these interest payments claimed $196 billion, or about 6 percent of the budget.

    http://www.warresisters.org/sites/default/files/FY2012piechart-color.pdf

    State Of Maine has about $18 billion in debt.

    http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Maine_state_budget

  • Anonymous

    The ghosts wouldn’t stand a chance against LePage.  He’d tell them off in language that would make a sailor blush. :)

  • Anonymous

    Bravo Governor LePage!!!  I voted for you and couldn’t be prouder.  It’s about time Maine STOPS BEING A NANNY STATE FROM BIRTH UNTIL DEATH!!!!  Keep up the good work Governor and thanks for lowering Maine’s unemployment rate. 

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately there is truth in what you say.  I believe there is a corporate goal of a third world nation complete with fascism, cheap labor and violent nationalism to distract from the real problems.  Sometimes I think we are on our way. 

  • Anonymous

    LePage did not put  this state in the fisical black hole that it’s in.  Forty years of irresponsible spending
    by liberal democrats did it.  LePage just got stuck with having to make adult decisions and many people will be  getting hurt.  These problems existed long before anyone knew who LePage was.  Raising taxes on higher incomes won’t help.  In fact that, and over regulation under previous governors was what drove busnesses and jobs out of the state to begin with and caused the problems we are  now facing.   This problem with Maine Care is not new.  It hasn’t been fully funded for years.  Hospitals, Dr’s, clinics, etc. are owed millions by the state of Maine and LePage is left having to make the unenvyable decisions of where to make the spending cuts.  There will be a lot of posters in this forum who will blame LePage, but that is shallow reasoning ie ‘tax the rich some more’. …

  • Anonymous

    If the garage was in his name would his mother be receiving MaineCare?    

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t have said it better myself.  Right on!!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe because Baldacci was hiding the problems?

  • Anonymous

    So why are you just ignoring my point ? 

    The no tax pledge is proof that they are NOT serious about balancing  anything but the political score. 

  • Anonymous

    You do realize that web address you provided (fact check) is referring to HR3200 which, to quote you, “never passed.”

  • Anonymous

    MeDHHS did a survey.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Everybody should have been expecting the tax cut for the wealthy.  That’s what Republican’s always do.  They get into office and immediately use up every available penny the Democrats saved for a rainy day and give the rich a big tax break.  Then when more funding is needed they cut programs for the middle and working class and slap on a regressive sales tax that hurts the ……. surprise!…   working and middle classes.   This is standard Republican operating procedure at the local, state and national level.  

  • Anonymous

    I am paraphrasing Bill Mahar here:

    If the Republicans staged “A Christmas Carol” today, they would present it as a cautionary tale in which the hero, Scrooge, a blameless job-creator, is slowly sucked into socialism by the demands of Tiny Tim. The play would end with Scrooge asking, “How much of my wealth does Mr. Tim feel he is entitled to?”

    Yes, I know that Mahar is a communist America-hating traitor, but it’s still funny.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Governor LePage.  These people have known it was coming and if they did not plan ahead it was their own fault.  The gravy train is empty due to the democrats and the lazy freeloaders who thought it would never end.

  • Anonymous

    I remember a few Republican and Independent/Republican Governors in that mix.  At least half of that 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    Enjoy him while you can.  I guarantee he will not be re-elected.

  • Anonymous

    Only a third of Mainers voted for LePage.  History will not repeat itself in this case.

  • Anonymous

    I hope you are a registered voter.  That’s what it will take.  You and any of your friends or relatives that are in the same situation need to get out and vote.  I’m curious, Kitterykid, who did you vote for for governor?

  • Anonymous

    Amen—-well said, msallyjones!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I believe it was right after 
    they boo-ed the gay soldier.

  • Anonymous

    Logans run rules will be in effect soon. time to fire up carousel. 

  • Anonymous

    MANY businesses DO NOT offer insurance to their full-time employees, OR keep their part-time employees at 36-38 hours so they NEVER have to allow them to purchase insurance through their company.  Sometimes they can purchase the insurance at $1200- or more a month, but if you are working full-time at minimum wage, I guess you would need to decide between a place to live, or healthcare.

  • Anonymous

    This is my favorite response anytime LePage tries to pull a stunt like this:  ROBERT NUTTING!!  All you Republicans who are unfamiliar with Robert Nutting, google his name with “Maine pharmacist defrauds Mainecare, then declares bankruptcy”.

  • Anonymous

    That is patently untrue.  Many couples without children  work 2,3 and 4 minimum wage part-time jobs that are still at the poverty level. The cost of transportation to 3 or four different jobs is high.  None of these types of jobs pay medical insurance or sick leave.  Nor are they secure sources of income.  Firing is random and frequent.  You are looking at the job market from a comfortable position and fail to see all the people that are struggling in this economy. A kinder attitude toward people that are working but not making it might be helpful.

  • Ken Fogelman

    The currently proposed bill to eliminate the taxation on pensions needs to be supported. A good first start would be to exempt taxation on PUBLIC pensions, with private pensions an entity for future consideration. Not only would additional pensioners be encouraged to remain in Maine year round, but current full time pensioners would be able to support themselves and increase expenditures in their communities. It’s a “win-win” proposition for all.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t vote for him so have nothing to regret on that count.  I don’t think you will get many clicks. Those who did not vote for him, and never would , are many. The ones who voted for him most likely are still defending him. They think he is great and that  his policies are great.

    4mermainer: I did not think you voted for him.

  • Anonymous

    Paying taxes for a healthy, educated citizenry, local and national security, financial institutions that (up till now ) were trusted world wide and a world class civil service that is honest, efficient and effective is not confiscation of your wealth.  It’s participation in civilization.  

    Perhaps you would be happier with anarchy?

  • Anonymous

    Seems to be. The unintelligence and contradictions of LePage and the  Heritage Found. are astounding.

  • Anonymous

    Reagan increased taxes when the country needed more revenue.  Did you forget that?

  • Anonymous

    I AM small minded, mean and selfish–if you are over 18, without kids and not disables.GET A JOB AND YOUR OWN HEALTHCARE, I have kids to support with my income and my taxes should not be paying for someone else to be lazy

  • Anonymous

    I edit my posts from time to time.  I guess I’m a liar also.  

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t all the men wear condoms?  That might help a bit.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, there seem to be an inordinate number of people with incapacitated thinking processes that actually believe that kind of nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t count on it.  LePage’s approval ratings went up 16 points since last April.  He’s now polling 11 points higher than Baldacci did in Oct 2010.  Too bad Baldacci fooled so many people into thinking the government would take care of all their needs.  Many fell for it.  As a middle income taxpayer, I can’t afford to pay one dime more in state taxes.  Go LePage!!  You liberals want to be upset, then take up your argument with Baldacci.  He is the one who left Maine in such a fiscal mess.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you report him?

  • Anonymous

    Your presumptions and arrogance are completely underwhelming, tag …

  • Anonymous

    Be careful, when Massachusetts started doing that several years ago, several insurance carriers left the state (Yes, more auto, home and malpractice than health).  I understand how frustrating they are, I deal with health insurance companies every day.  By the way, the worst to deal with is MaineCare.
    Last year I had an asthmatic child who had pertussis. Her cough was likely to threaten her ability to breathe. MaineCare does not cover a common anti-cough medicine and she could not tolerate the alternative (the narcotic codeine). I appealed the refusal as high as possible and was refused. Oddly enough a similar case was solved with two phone calls with a commercial insurance carrier.
    It has been said many times before, NH has a similar population to ME. They have a higher proportion of people on less expensive insurance with similar coverage. They do this mostly because they do not hamstring companies and drive out competetion with useless government regulation.
    Don’t get me wrong, I am not an friend of the insurance companies. I have a lot to yell at them about, CEO compensation and administrative costs is on that list. I am just saying that taxing them out of the state will not solve the problem.

    Steven Wilson
    (These views are MINE and do NOT necessarly represent that of anyone else, including the hospital I work for.)

  • Anonymous

    I think that the career of Jack DeCoster is a prime example of “making a killing” off the downtrodden. And he’s a distant relative of mine…

  • Anonymous

    I like this guy more all the time!!

  • Anonymous

    Who did that poll? The Heritage Foundation?

  • Anonymous

    What “problems,” Bruce? The current DHHS commissioner can’t tell us what the problem is, only that she hasn’t got enough money. One week she’s $70 million short, the next she’s down $120 million, and she can’t explain it. Is that good enough for you? And what has her incredibly lame non-answer got to do with Baldacci? Personally, I like to know exactly how my tax dollars were — or were not — spent.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re sick, just go take a long walk down in the woods. Don’t bother us, we need the money to pay for another tax cut. That’s the Republican health care plan.

  • Anonymous

    Are you referring to our own “Governor Bullshit” playing the leading role?

  • Anonymous

    hey there, the other comment section shut down and i wanted to reply briefly enough to say thanks for taking the time to discuss your w/ feelings me, i appreciate and respect that.

    i guess what i am trying to say is, when you react to their (albeit incredible stupidity) you give them power.  they feed off it, they love it.  i just don’t want to give them that much satisfaction. 

    and yes, I HOPE there’s room in our party for both of us.  (moderate me and more progressive you)  

    peace.

  • Anonymous

    Moses: “Jump on your camels,  load up your asses, and I will lead you to the Promised Land.

    John Baldacci: ” Light up a Camel, sit on your asses, this IS the Promised Land.”

  • Anonymous

    I can’t help but wonder why childless adults are held in such low esteem. It seems the state is encouraging poor people to procreate. 

  • Anonymous

    Think of the money the state could save and apply to childless poor adults if the rest weren’t using the funds for obstetrical and pediatric care.

  • Anonymous

    without a doubt!

  • Guest

    now you get to pay for 19,ooo unpayed ER trips.  Merry Christmas

  • Anonymous

    gov you are the MAN

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Olympia Snowe  is one.  She knows how these are run

  • Anonymous

    sorry libs had control of house and senate  nice try though

  • Anonymous

    Well said. Just because a child has Mainecare, there still is out of pocket expenses a lot of the time.  There are many meds that are not covered, and then there are meds that should not be covered in my own opinion. Mainecare also pays out big bucks for either arranged transportation or mileage reimbursement to covered appointments. If the north didnt have to travel to the south for services this would be a great savings on Mainecare as well.

  • Anonymous

    “The ones who voted for him most likely are still defending him. They think he is great and that  his policies are great.”   I BEG YOUR PARDON!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    you libs have run  this state into the ground for the last 40 years pauls just making the hard choices you folks refused to make thanks gov youve got my vote

  • Guest

    well that’s just crazy socialist talk   ; )

  • Anonymous

    socialist diatribe try thinking like capitalist thats what this country is it will get u much father

  • Anonymous

    Wow sounds like someone has had a bit to much tea today.

  • Anonymous

    yep step back and make room 4 the true americans capitalism is on the rise once again

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t think you voted for LePage.

    Yes, I meant his hard-core supporters (he still has some , after all) are still lined up with him. You dispute that?

  • Anonymous

    I did not think you voted for him.

  • Anonymous

    your right his approval ratings are going thru the roof  will be over 50% this time

  • Anonymous

    Yes, cut government spending.
    But, people who have 90% of the wealth should be paying 90% (not 50%) of the taxes because they are the ones who obviously have benefited from the system. 

  • Anonymous

    most welfare moms plan there pregnancies well ahead of time in order to keep those welfare benis rolling in from cradle to grave 

  • Anonymous

    Seems to be the case.!

  • Anonymous

    I agree!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TJYZV7JWWJCPG7BX65EM6UOHZ4 Skowhegan Resident

    I wonder what every female adult of child bearing age MaineCare recipient without children is thinking now

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    Nationwide the graduation rate is 76%, some states hover around 50%. I think a lot of people suffer from self-imposed retardation by failing to try to finish High School. The thought of attempting to study on occasion is too much work for a quarter of Americans and then they boo hoo when they are poor, meaning they lack any will to obtain common sense or logic. Oh, what is the use explaining that to someone that does not have a grasp on reality.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Simple math refutes your objection. 
    People are not fired frequently and at random without reasonable cause. I am looking at the job market as both as an employer/manager and as one who has actually lived on the side of the coin I am referring to. If you wish to better yourself, learn how to do it without sticking your hand in somebody else’s pocket.

  • Anonymous

    Disqus generic email templateYes, you are right on that. However I believe the senate and house were mostly dems. Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Disqus generic email templateThat’s Good!!!

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Civilization is not defined by a collectivist mindset that exists through the confiscation of other people’s wealth. The principles of liberty and economic freedom are also not defined as anarchy. The anarchists are more aligned with the entitlement Statists that comprise the OWS movement.
    This is instead a matter of working to better your own life without relying on government confiscation of other people’s wealth. If you do not have children, work two jobs f you wish to escape the rigors of poverty.

  • Anonymous

    When I moved her I thought Maine was a Great State and a beautiful STATE. My family has lived in Mount Desert Island since 1763. My Grandfather would never leave the state. When I first came over the Pisqatauquis river bridge the sign said  “Maine the way life should Be”. This STATE is the biggest loser I have ever been in and the politicians kick the can down the road and are just full of themselves. Maine people are getting it stuck to them on every corner. My grandfather wouldn’t leave before he died. But if he were alive he’d be packing his bags and coming with me. It is a darn shame when a family whose ancestors were Patriots and fought in the revolution have to leave a state because of uneducated moron’s who run the state.

  • Anonymous

    Well, for starters, it doesn’t look like ObamaCare is going to be cheaper. On the contrary, it is shaping up to be another enormous entitlement package enacted without debate or clarity of priorities. The legislators weren’t even given a chance to read the bill. You are so naive.

  • Anonymous

    You can’t read very well can you?

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Wrong. People pay taxes on income, not wealth. Wealth has already been taxed as income or gains previously at some point. 1% of income tax payers are already paying in excess of their percentage of income in this country. They pay 37% of all income taxes n this country. They are not only paying their fair share but they are paying yours as well.

  • Anonymous

    If your ancestor lived in Maine in the 1800′s would they have universal healthcare? Or is it just because you believe in socialism not patriotism?

  • Anonymous

    Thats discrimination, against those who couldn’t have children and those smart enough to bring children in this sick political crippled world.
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    I realized in my early teens some people where going to be ahead of me in life. I saw them studying when I chose to play, common sense dictated I might not be as prosperous and I accepted that, so I am not jealous. I see a lot of people mad because they do not want to accept any shame for the lot they got in life and can only blame others for their situation. No everyone gets a first place trophy for being lazy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_627Z6GPPA2WEIIW3ZBXSZKFMW4 Mike

    What a sad place we are in. Government is no longer of the people and for the people. The occupy movement is changing the dialog. There is a group that protest Saturdays in Brunswick. We meet at the park near the bandstand and march to Bank of America on Maine Street. We are the 99%. We want change.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Is she forcing patients to come back twice a week? How is she running a clinic while also working in Congress?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    You should watch the movie Idiocracy and you will see your future.

  • Anonymous

    I am glad this man was not governor when your grandfather was alive.!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    The graduation rate in the US is around 76%, that indicates 24% of Americans are lazy and suffer from self imposed retardation. Too lazy to get a free education along with free lunches. Some people learned something and the others learned to do…….sadly, nothing and learned no shame, just how to blame others.

  • Anonymous

    His hard-core supporters. I know you did not vote for him!

  • Anonymous

    Gives tea a bad name.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Juniper-Jupiter/100000505486884 Juniper Jupiter

    What’s sad is the fact that these fine taxpayers also paid for the schools, the parks, the WELFARE, the MEDICAID, the roads, and everything else that you parents and your precious children take for granted.  Maybe the childfree/childless folks need to quit paying those taxes or pay a visit to the ACLU?

  • chris reid

    Great comment . .. In my reproduction the 3 Ghosts would be the ” Two Charlies and Bruce”. Narrated by” Ms Mayhe(m)w”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    Nationwide, about seven thousand students drop out every school day. This statistic may not have been noticed fifty years ago, but the era during which a high school dropout could earn a living wage has ended in the United States. By dropping out, these individuals significantly diminish their chances to secure a good job and a promising future. Moreover, each class of dropouts is responsible for substantial financial and social costs to their communities, states, and country in which they live.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not cruel…I work 2 jobs to ensure that I can afford insurance for my family, and still I cannot afford braces for my child. If we were on Maine Care they would be paid for by the state…time to let people start paying their own way…I know it sounds like I have no compassion but I’m tired of being the working class and struggling more then people on the state.

  • Anonymous

    This is a thoughtful response to my comment, though I disagree that reasonable regulations “hamstring” insurance companies, when those same companies hamstring ordinary Americans in need of medical treatment. My liberal heart does not bleed for the managers and employees of for-profit insurance companies. I guess I honestly disagree with the philosophy of doing health insurance for profit. Insurance companies can sell all the auto, home, etc, insurance they want and make as much money as they can; I am not forced to own a car. I am required to inhabit this body. We don’t do public education or public safety or even public libraries for profit. MaineCare, for all its problems, has much lower administrative overhead than private, for-profit insurance companies, which means that a greater percentage of the money is going to patient care.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    It is pretty strange, but the people that studied harder, worked harder and made better decisions than me have more in life and boy am I mad. I have no shame in thinking this way, absolutely none. Signed Cry Baby.

  • Anonymous

    Ridiculous comment.

  • Anonymous

    Simple answer: pop out a kid. /sarcasm

    If working adults with no kids are below the poverty level, they ought to be able to get the care they need, especially if their tax dollars are going to the lazy people who are sitting home popping out a kid every year.

  • Anonymous

    But we can afford to give tax breaks to the rich!nuff said!

  • Anonymous

    I think the Gov. is making tough choices for the benefit of all Mainers. Removing a few “entitlements” from these 19,000 capable adults will encourage them to be more self-sufficient. Gov. LePage again proves to be a great leader with this tough love, kick in the pants policy to get Mainers to work again.

  • Anonymous

    wonder what old lapage pays for health insurance and all the rest of them in augusta pay

  • Anonymous

    I agree we are turning into a third world country. Until an average poor working class becomes president……………………there seems to be NOTHING that will stop the greed and bleeding of the working class. Pathetic!!

  • Anonymous

    WE, the tax payers, in the end will still wind up paying for those who cannot afford health insurance or Maine Care in one way of another. Sounds more like gimmick or smoke and mirror tactic to me.

  • Anonymous

    Listen… hear that?  It sounds like poverty, spreading slowly across the land.

  • Anonymous

    What is the Gov’s point? That low-income adults without children are less deserving of support? If it’s all about the children why not just insure the children of low-income adults rather than any of their parents? At least that way the state isn’t pitting one group against another.

  • Guest

    Heather are you serious??  Businesses often don’t offer insurance and more often than not businesses keep their employees under 40 hours so they don’t have to give them insurance or any other benefits

  • Anonymous

    But to not stand up them means that they’re just taking power, too. 
    There is no easy answer to it, but still, it underlies all the politics. 

    So which party ? 
    I’m thinking of getting a crowd together and registering GOP so we can go 
    to the caucus and steer back to the center of road … the ballot is still secret after all.

    RINOS  UNITE  has  a nice ring to it.  
    : )

  • Anonymous

    If he is a 1% er sure he is. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    I come from a hearty Maine peasant stock and I have never seen a male in my family ever sit on his a$$, my brother cried when he was terminally ill, because he would never work again. I guess my upbringing naturally makes me callous to those with no work ethic. They should have never shown me that side of life, now I am to be doomed to have an unhealthy like towards lazy people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    I come from a hearty Maine peasant stock and I have never seen a male in my family ever sit on his behind, my brother cried when he was terminally ill, because he would never work again. I guess my upbringing naturally makes me callous to those with no work ethic. They should have never shown me that side of life, now I am to be doomed to have an unhealthy like towards lazy people.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed, but who pays for people’s healthcare when they don’t have insurance and cannot afford the bills?

  • http://twitter.com/BexPWM Rebecca

    Benefits for breeders, only!  A fabulous way to keep all those pesky non-breeders out.  Those responsible enough to use birth control should absolutely be punished.  Only those squirting out dependents on a regular basis deserve healthcare.  Good incentive to find a random sperm donor, woohoo!!

  • Anonymous

    Hah! “already taxed” I’ll use that when I register my used car because that was actually taxed before. Capital gains are taxed at a very low rate, but in reality, a large percentage of capital gains of the very wealthy are never taxed because they are passed on without being realized.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry but I don’t understand your question so I can’t provide an intelligent answer.

  • Anonymous

    If they opened the flood gates, as you say, then 0nly Anthem knows how to swim through.

  • Anonymous

     Personally, I like to know exactly how my tax dollars were — or were not — spent.     
    ************************************************************
    well, they certainly weren’t spent paying Maine’s hospital bills (Mainecare patients) for the last 5 years of Baldacci’s administration.

  • Anonymous

    The health care insurance that Congress finally passed is neither universal not single payer.  It is a dreadful hash of a job and you are right it will be expensive.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    He would probably like to make it that you can only have one kid on the taxpayers dollar if you can not afford it, not ten more. Stop at one until you can afford more.

  • Anonymous

    So, compassion doesn’t run in your family.  

  • AionNV

    Great idea, except those kids grow up to be adults.

    Ooops !Another GOP clown car derailment !

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for bringing home a point that everyone should keep in mind.  I know people on Mainecare who are neither lazy nor dropouts.   I am glad you spoke up. 

    You don’t have to be retired to need Mainecare – especially since our healthcare system is so broken, and people can’t afford insurance. I hope it gives thought to some of the people who post on here. Many people on Mainecare are neighbors, friends and relatives who most likely won’t speak up.

  • Anonymous

    TAKE MORE IN! *********************
    LOVE TO!  But Stephen and Tabitha moved to Florida, and they pay no taxes on the ‘Foundation”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    One reason there is more disparity between the rich and poor is that the graduation rate nationally is 76%, being 24% of our nations people are lazy and uneducated. It is really higher as some of the people that gradumated were not too smart, so really that 24% borders on a self imposed retardation that is directly related to lazy and then some.

  • Anonymous

    more kids =more free stuff 

  • AionNV

    Back that up with something; and yes, I’m accusing you of outright lying.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    One reason there is more disparity between the rich and poor is that the graduation rate nationally is 76%, being 24% of our nations people are lazy and uneducated. It is really higher as some of the people that gradumated were not too smart, so really that 24% borders on a self imposed retardation that is directly related to lazy and then some.

  • Anonymous

    And his life span would ahve been around 50, less for women.

  • Anonymous

    its about time im tired of paying 4 other peoples health ins when i cant evan afford my own         and another thing they stats say that there are only 9% of mainers that dont have health ins but there are 400000 people on mainecare talk about liberal spin

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    first off, according to the article at least, the adult is still covered. second, i pay a lot to the state of maine and so not have a child. combination of lifestyle and resources but i choose not to. why should i pay for the person that is popping out kids just to get more tax $. how much is a kid worth now a days?

  • Anonymous

    Keep trying.  I encouraged my kids to leave Maine, and my youngest is making more than I am.  Thought I was going to have to follow, but can stay here for a little longer. Jobs are scarce – even for college grads.  Good luck.

  • Anonymous

    And I know a rich guy who pays far less in taxes than I.We all can find someone to “scapegoat” all the others in his “class”

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    agreed, but in the mean time, i have to pay taxes for those that dont

  • Anonymous

    Graduated in 07′ with a bachelors in business, economy tanked in 08′  and with it went a large amount employment opportunities.  What did I do?  Started landscaping and looking for year round work.  Thought I had it with Verso this past summer and that went up in smoke too.  So, went back to landscaping and looking for a better job again. (Yes I’ve collected unemployment on the weeks I haven’t worked.  Judge me for that if you wish)  I haven’t had health insurance since college and it FORCED me to pay more attention to what I put into my body and control the amount of risks I take.  The economy is not going to get better for quite sometime and we all have to make sacrifices.  I don’t the ability to purchase all the things I was hoping.  No house for me (yet), no new vehicle for me (yet) but damn if I’m not working my ass off to get there be it landscaping or anything else! I’ve had hospital bills in the last couple years but here’s the kicker….if you pay $500 or $5 dollars a week they don’t care as long as they’re getting something.  People my age (under 30 and under) have the ability to make great changes in the world if we’re willing to work like our grandparents did.  Just like my grandfather said growing up: “You’re judged on what you do when times are bad, not when they’re good”.  I think it’s time to find out what our state and our town are made of!

  • Anonymous

    the 40-hour work week for benefits is a fallacy.  Employers offer health insurance to their employees who work 32 hours a week.  My husband’s former employer (a VERY small business—about 10 employees total including the boss) offered him health insurance several years ago when he was averaging 20 hours a week in the winter.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with the philosophy of don’t have them unless you can afford them.  Why would you want to bring children into the world that you can not afford to take care of properly?

  • Anonymous

    That’s exactly what defines civilization:  the agreement of many people that they will take on the responsibility of living together in an organized way.  Liberty, as you define it: the absence of shared responsibility is most certainly anarchy.  You have little understanding of anarchy or anarchists if you think the OWS kids and the Statists (what ever you mean by that) are anarchists. 

    Again, your vast wealth has not been confiscated.  Most of it has gone to educate your kids, provide you flu shots, make sure your flight lands safely, your food is wholesome, keep your streets and homes are safe, repair your bridges and keep your libraries open….. you know , that shared responsibility thing you think is socialism. A tiny, tiny part of your fortune will go to someone who struggling with joblessness.

  • Anonymous

    responded to wrong post

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    You only hear that talk from id10ts. I never heard that from anyone I ever knew in my life, but I was never around welfare  cronies, what kind of people come from those families.  The governments resposibily, that is welfare breeding talk. I can’t work, my father was lazy, his father was lazy, my whole family is lazy, so why can’t I follow in the footsteps.

  • Anonymous

    Paul! You are a savior for the State of Maine.Get out your knfe adn scissors adn cut that worthless DHHS to shreds. Why should teh few people of Maien that are working have to pay for teh ones who will not get a job adn rely strcitly on our welfare system. There are needy here, so save the money for them.

  • Anonymous

    The rich are putting more back into the economy not just getting more benefits for doing nothing.

  • Anonymous

    RINO up!!!! I wish I would have done that during the last gubernatorial primary…

  • Anonymous

    If Maine has been decline for 40 years it is highly unlikely that the most recent welfare recipients which you so scorn as being lazy and dishonest are the cause of  Maine’s economic problems as you appear to claim. 

  • Anonymous

    So you support people like Nutting? 

  • Anonymous

    that is discrtimination agains people who refuse to find and hold a job.

  • Anonymous

    We do anyway! In the way of rising hospital costs that they pass on to patients with insurance….8(

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Oh, hooray.  Here we go again.  I just love being marked down as expendable by plutocratic  buffoons.  Particularly with the accompanying implication that I’d still be in the club if I’d been fool enough to father a couple of kids I can’t afford.  That’s a really inspirational message to receive along with notification that my home state prefers to let me rot.

    I guess it’ll come down to a sort of biological race against time.  Given a lack of proper preventive maintenance, which will happen first: a) I finish college and (theoretically) find a job that comes with insurance somewhere, or b) my condition progresses to a disabling level?  This is an experiment I would just as soon not conduct, but Mayor McCheese has other ideas, apparently.

    Grand.

  • Anonymous

    Shouldn’t we do something to keep our rating positive? The current Status Quo doesn’t seem to be working 8(

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    The 24% of the lazy, uneducated and unwilling to work have more kids, they have more kids, on and on, then the nation is filled with useless (fill in the blank_______________). These people are not even ashamed as they watch other people work, they think we are stoopid or foolish for not figuring out the system.

  • Anonymous

    7. What tax breaks and who doesn’t need them?***********************************************
    The ones Stephen and Tabitha get by forming a charitable organization into which they funnel their income, thus paying a MUCH lower tax rate than, say, the average bank manager, physician, accountant, etc.  Geez, he even BRAGS about how low his tax rate is, and how people like him should be taxed more.

  • Anonymous

    How much more would you like two people from Bangor to give back??? I think they give just fine!

  • Anonymous

    8(

  • Anonymous

    that just makes u mean and inconsiderate to these fine upstanding socialists. just because u want to work and be self reliant does not mean they should have 2

  • OldWench

    Do you honestly think taking insurance away from 19,000 Mainers won’t affect you financially?  You are in for one very, very rude awakening.  All of those people will still need the same health care, and will get it.  Since hospitals, doctors, clinics, etc will have to swallow all those costs they will make up the difference by charging YOU more.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    Because the government can do it and force taxpayers to foot the bill, it is only fair.

  • Anonymous

    Bill Maher…

  • Anonymous

    You know what I’m tired of ?  I’m tired of people accusing Mainers without jobs of being lazy and dishonest.  How many people do you actually know, not just “heard of” that are cheating on welfare, living a comfortable life sucking off the state.  

  • Anonymous

    Yeah like the tax payers….still……8(

  • Anonymous

    49% percent of the country pays no income tax and on top of that alot also receive earned income checks at tax time so the statement that the folks getting kicked off maine care pay there fair share of taxes is ludicrous    nice try though 

  • Anonymous

    If you have to work two jobs it seems to me they must be two part time jobs….When was the last time you were offered insurance on a part time job?

  • Anonymous

    Well we got rid of Dirigo and we don’t want the Obamacare policy and yet the state cant afford to help the poor with medical expenses.. So what do these Republican’s want us to do? We cant afford 500 a month for health insurance. I’m on medicare and pay 200 a month for me and also 200 a month for the wife for medigap ins.. Thats half of my social security check.. The way prices are going up all over i cant afford it anymore..

  • Anonymous

    How about repealing the $106 million tax cut that was enacted for our state’s wealthiest I am sure you would support that right?     
    *****************************************************************
    can you explain exactly WHO the “state’s wealthiest people” are?  In order to tax them, they mustlive here full-time, that would be more than 183 days a year.  I don’t think David Rockefeller lives on MDI full-time, nor does Mitchell Rales or Steve Forbes.  Stephen and Tabitha spend more time in Florida than Maine, but they formed a ‘charitable foundation’ to funnel their wealth into tax shelters, thus paying very little taxes on their income.  Can you tell me how much someone has to earn in Maine to be considered ‘wealthy(est)”?

  • Anonymous

    ” we want change ”  it used to be spare change the bums down on congress st wanted.but i guess brunswick turns out a higher class of bums

  • Anonymous

    Democrats warned Mr. LePage and Co. that eliminating DIRIGO Health would increase health care costs.  The GOP did it anyway.  Now they are shocked!, shocked!! I tell you that MaineCare is over budget.  There’s only one solution to the problem they themselves caused they say, take more away from our unfortunate neighbors. 
     
    Shame on us, if we let this happen.

  • Anonymous

    does that mean another upstanding liberal is leaving our state awwww thats to bad

  • Anonymous

    they don’t need mainecare.. they can wait in line like everyone else and they will not get refused. they can pay the medical bill on a payment plan

  • Anonymous

    God,I am so tired of LePage perpetuating the myth that the poor are ruining this country and whaling on the jobless, the poor, the working poor and the middle class. 

  • Anonymous

    the cream rises to the top   just curious in your opinion what would be a fair tax rate for top tiers earners

  • Guest

    Well, if your husband’s former employer gives out insurance everyone must.  Come on over to Washington county and see how many offer health insurance.

  • Anonymous

    they have to pay excise tax on there vehicles also just like u

  • Guest

    Yeah, and for some reason they all vote republican.

  • Anonymous

    according to sprucy , lynn ,singletrack ,cesilygray,and the hoard of toads people like the kings should not have any wealth at all..

  • Anonymous

    dollars  to your donuts you  will be very unhappy 3 years from now

  • Anonymous

    sad comment but very true

  • Anonymous

    That is patently untrue. Many couples without children work 2,3 and 4 minimum wage part-time jobs that are still at the poverty level. The cost of transportation to 3 or four different jobs is high. None of these types of jobs pay medical insurance or sick leave. Nor are they secure sources of income. Firing is random and frequent. 
    *****************************************************************
    Then those couples should move to where the job prospects are better.  Thirty-two years ago, my brother-in-law was working up here in the construction industry.  The pay was terrible–he made $5. an hour at a time when minimum wage was $ 3.10 an hour.  Actually, that’s not a bad income—just a little less than double the minimum wage rate.  Anyway, he said it wasn’t enough to raise a family on, even though the cost of living was so low—housing was dirt cheap, food pretty inexpensive, electricity wasn’t too bad—even though Maine Yankee was being decommissioned.  So, he moved back to New Jersey and made twice that pay right off the bat.  Three years later, he was the general contractor for the PX building at a nearby military base, he had money put away and was able to pay the hospital bill when my nephew was born.  He always said “You don’t move TO Maine to find work—you make your career in another state and RETIRE to Maine.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    Hospitals are required by law to give 10% of the healthcare to indigent people, it could be higher.

  • Anonymous

    so once again the elitist raise there tired ol im so much smarter than u because your opinion is different than mine crap

  • Anonymous

    becoming a ward of the state shouldnt be looked at as an opportunity 

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    simple math does not refute it, run the numbers for 2 working people that need a car to get to work, and pay rent/utils. i agree that people are not fired at random, but based on my experience, some just can not handle the job that they are in, and have to be let go. i think the comments on here are more related to if i popped out a kid, i would be covered, but without one i am not. 

  • Anonymous

    How much more would you like two people from Bangor to give back??? I think they give just fine!
    *************************************************
    I just want them to pay “their FAIR SHARE in taxes”,  just like Stephen said wealthy people should do.  He admitted (bragged) that he pays a much lower rate than he should—so I can only understand that his tax shelters and the foundation are responsible for them paying such a low rate.  They are obviously not paying their “fair share” in taxes with all the write-offs, deductions and shelters.

  • Anonymous

    This State can not afford tax breaks for the wealthy! I can see how this is going to play out, Lie Page is now One and Done, if he does not get Indicted first, Liars are always Indictable, the feds will get him hopefully,  other wise he is going to completely destroy our States reputation.

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    and for the record, i pay about 30% of my salary to taxes. i hate it, but knowing that it is doing absolutely zero for me on the state level is even worse.

  • OldWench

    Universal health care and programs like seen in Canada or Europe are not the answer for the US.  What WOULD work here, however, is a public OPTION.  Essentially that would amount to allowing people to buy into Medicaid based on a sliding income fee.  This would force private insurance companies to offer better insurance at a cheaper rate due to competition.  The Medicaid program is actually a good program and provides better care than most private insurances.  The problem is that it doesn’t generate revenue to sustain itself.  That would change IF people were allowed to buy into it based on their income.  This would help ease some of the tax burden as well.  It would be pretty easy to institute this kind of change, too.  Another thing that could be done to help pay for something like this would to have each state raise sales tax by one cent and have that additional cent go directly into such an expansion to Medicaid.

    These issues would not be all that difficult to fix if only politicians were more concerned about their constituents and less concerned about power and financial gain.

  • Anonymous

    If we were to get rid of all these “high salary” politicians, Maine could be a very rich state and able to help the less fortunate! 

  • Anonymous

    I mean the useless ones, and yes there are plenty of them!

  • Anonymous

    “His background is in business and he intends to run the state like a business”  Government is not a business.  People in government are not there to make a profit.  OOPPPSSS!!!  Well you know what I mean.

  • Anonymous

    What? Never bought anything on credit?  Did you buy your house outright? Did you buy your car with ready cash?

  • Anonymous

    lapage says there are jobs out there, mainers just are not educated for them, so lets cut education. it seems a little off to me. how about this to save  money, children on mainecare yes,
    if your not a working adult no mainecare for you. peolple who work and dont have mainecare dea lwith being sick and they still have to go to work.  children and working people  should be the first to have mainecare, so the working can work healthly.

  • Anonymous

    If the insurance companies are the problem,  The State run Dirigo Health Program didn’t do well either.   Even subsidized by Taxpayer’s,  Taxes on Insurance,  Federal Subsidies and Grants.   The problem is the Clueless Liberals in Maine and Washington don’t have any solutions to any of the problems.  All they want is more Government progams and increase in the Welfare State.

  • Anonymous

    lapage says there are jobs out there, mainers just are not educated for them, so lets cut education. it seems a little off to me. how about this to save  money, children on mainecare yes,
    if your not a working adult no mainecare for you. peolple who work and dont have mainecare dea lwith being sick and they still have to go to work.  children and working people  should be the first to have mainecare, so the working can work healthly.

  • Anonymous

    the jobs might not pay as well as living off the state  . but they are entry level positions and if your willing to work hard u will get promoted to a higher paying position if you tend to be a whinea7^ who  has no work ethic then you will probably be the first to go when times get tough   in the work place just like in life in general  any problem you have is typically your fault   learned that lesson as a young lad one of the reasons im successful to this day

  • Anonymous

    if there working and not whining than we can agree on at least one thing      all the folks who work 4 me are young and they are damn hard workers

  • HowdyNeighbor

    Good for LePage. A non-disabled adult should not have their healthcare paid for by hardworking taxpayers. Sitting at home on your butt is a choice and choosing to do that does not entitle you to free healthcare by the state. The fact that Maine has been allowing that to occur has invited more freeloaders to move to the state…further hurting Maine’s hardworking taxpayers. The more entitlements you give, the more undesirables move in. The balance shifts and the entire economy goes down the tubes. Too bad LePage’s good deeds are coming after Maine taxed us and our business right out of the state.

    LePage needs to do something about the high number of child molesters moving to Maine, too.

  • Anonymous

    i was wondering the same thing hopefully that will be next  one step at a time    man i love this guv

  • Anonymous

    Well, if your husband’s former employer gives out insurance everyone must. Come on over to Washington county and see how many offer health insurance.
    ******************************************
    My post was in response to your claim that employers can only provide insurance and benefits to people who work 40 hours a week. That particular employers in Washington County don’t offer insurance doesn’t change that fact.  If the majority of businesses in that area are small general stores, lobstermen, cranberry, blueberry, sardine and crabmeat processors and wreathmakers, they probably can’t afford to pay those premiums AND pay much more than minimum wage.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t like it but the Governor is correct on this one.   We cannot afford to pay for this.  We all suffer.  Workers can’t pay for dental care and thus shouldn’t have to pay for others to have it. Plain and simple.
    - and this from an ardent democrat, no less.

  • Anonymous

    and most of those are forced to in order to work at that place of employment thats why right to work will get pushed though the legislature this year and then more businesses will becoming to this state

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    so the average recipient is the mother? we dont need any facts here right?

  • Anonymous

    nope the shared bound of rugged individualism and self sufficiency are what sets this country apart hence capitalism thats what makes us great

  • Guest

    You make some good points. Some people will be pushed to apply for disability if they can not get health insurance.

  • Guest

    dislike

  • StillRelaxin

    LePage: “State can’t afford MaineCare for childless adults.” Does anyone else find it odd that Paul thinks we can easily afford to pay his daughter $41K plus great benefits just so that he can always have at least one loyal and sympathetic shoulder to lean on? We don’t think so Paul! Time to get out that cutting axe mister. Fail us here (As we know you will) and we’ll happily repay every conservative running for office in 2012.

  • OldWench

    You are assuming that this change would only impact people who are homeless and poor, but you’re wrong.  This will take away coverage from people who work full time at minimum wage jobs, sometimes more than one job, don’t have insurance or aren’t quite old enough for medicare and need coverage until they reach that age.

    Tobacco is not easy to quit…I know because I was a smoker for over 20 years.  I use an electronic cigarette now and have been tobacco free for over 6 months.  As for cell phones…most of the time they are really cheap or even free, and the monthly fee is often less than the cost of a landline.  With poor people there are frequently people who actually give tattoos to friends for very cheap or free while they are learning.  Just because someone has one doesn’t mean they paid for it.  

    The point is…appearances can be deceiving and you should not assume you know everything.  I’ve worked with a lot of homeless people so I do know something about this.  Many of the family members of homeless people provide a cell phone to their homeless family member because they are worried about them and want to be able to reach them and check in.  There is also a program some qualify for to get one of the really cheap phones and a fairly low amount of free minutes.  This will help people find jobs and homes and make appointments because if you’re homeless no one can call you back for an interview, etc.  With smoking…most buy pipe tobacco and make their own cigarettes, or several people will chip in together and do that and many get the money by getting up at 3 or 4 am and going all around town collecting empty bottles and cans.  Even for a pack and half a day smoker they can make their own for about $10 a week.   Many will work as temps for day labor companies as well.

    To drive my point home a bit…I once worked with a 60 year old man who had been homeless and was renting a room.  He had to move and had nowhere to go.  He couldn’t find work because of his age, and he was trying so hard.  He got help from General Assistance and foodstamps and Mainecare.  He just needed a little help until he got social security and medicare.  It’s people like that man who will be hurt by what LePage wants to do.  

  • Guest

    maybe some coal or maybe some “Bull ………____

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    I know of someone that had their drug addled relatives more here from another state to get their lives together. They took them to the homeless shelter so that they could get on the welfare system in Maine. Thanks a lot, many people that knew of this were outraged.

  • Guest

    It doesn’t matter at what point the employer decides to give an employee health insurance.  You’ve completely missed my point.

  • Anonymous

    Sure unions are at fault.  Those unfortunate corporations had no choice but to take their companies overseas.  It had nothing to do with increasing their bottom line, did it?  Their CEOs  were being deprived of their multi-million dollar profit sharing and other bennies.  Yep, those unions caused it all.  Wake up, Downeasta3111!

  • Anonymous

    The the average welfare recipient stays on welfare about 4 years and they have 2.3 children. This hardly fits your scenario.  

  • Anonymous

    Don’t count on  Maine becoming a Right to Work state.  There are enough intelligent Mainers left to defeat it.  Why would anyone in their right (emphasis on “right”) mind want to see every job reduced to entry level pay or minimum wage?

  • Anonymous

    LePage: “State can’t afford MaineCare for childless adults.”
    You must propagate.
    War is peace.  
    Big Brother loves you.

  • Anonymous

    The hard-core supporters are fine examples of what happens when conception occurs at low tide in the gene pool.

  • Anonymous

     ”why aren’t more businesses flocking here?”

    They are worried about living where there is so much social injustice. 
    It always leads to civil unrest. 

  • http://twitter.com/TheGuardianMH The Guardian

    Maine also can’t afford to have sick adults who can’t work or end up in the emergency rooms / hospitals or on disability because they couldn’t get help.  Get some real jobs in here with benefits and maybe this won’t be so necessary.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    There are jobs out there, but 20% of Mainers do not even want to make the effort to graduate High School. 20% percent of Mainers are minimally educated, the undereducated is much higher. Some people will never get a clue and are not hireable in the least. Obama is right you people are lazy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    Why would jobs come here when our people are lazy and stooopidd, something you are obviously unaware. There are jobs out there, but 20% of Mainers do not even want to make the effort to graduate High School. 20% percent of Mainers are minimally educated, the undereducated is much higher. Some people will never get a clue and are not hireable in the least. Obama is right you people are lazy.     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    The less fortunate are the lazy. There are jobs out there, but 20% of Mainers do not even want to make the effort to graduate High School. 20% percent of Mainers are minimally educated, the undereducated is much higher. Some people will never get a clue and are not hireable in the least. Obama is right you people are lazy. COME ON AT LEAST TRY TO FINISH HIGH DROOL.

  • Anonymous

    let me rephrase “fired at random” .  Most people that work at minimum  or part time jobs do not have any job security.   If business is slow the employer can simply tell them they are no longer needed and let them go.  ”Fired at random”  was a bad choice of words.  Sorry.

  • Anonymous

    but childless adults can afford to pay taxes into the system that cant afford to help them when they need it? Guess if you think you might ever be in a position to need help from the state you better have  knocked someone up.

  • Anonymous

    What if you’re well over 18, your kids are about to be 18, and you have a job in which you bust your butt 40 hours a week that doesn’t provide affordable healthcare?  Further, what if you have a health condition that will turn into a disability without MaineCare coverage?  What then?

  • Anonymous

    Why do we need a govnah anyhow. Seems we cant afford to have one maybe we should just cut Lepage off and wing it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7G4NOEAOOUUCFWVNMAQLDPAD4 Danni

    I agree that they need to re think how they ( the state) are spending money, but I think we need to look also at how much money Doctors are making. I know my doctor has a brand new BMW. I know because he told me about the safety rating. I think we need to look at how much it costs to take care of our health. I went three years trying to control my diabetes through just diet and exercise because we couldn’t afford the doctor visits. And the medication! I about fainted when they told me I had to spend 145$ a month for ONE of 2 medications….PLUS the $100-something for test strips. Just from a few doctor visits, one nutritionist visit, an eye exam, and one diabetes education class…we’re STILL paying the medical bills 3 years later. There needs to be some sort of balance between what it costs to supply medical treatment, and how much it costs to get it!

  • Anonymous

    I have to guess that there is two day waiting period… right ? 
    But why not register GOP and go to vote in their caucuses? 
    It is supposed to be a big tent, and that is what the TEA Tories did, anyway. 

    If you want your  vote to count  vote early and often; county caucus, State Primary, State Convention, then however you want in the General Election.     

  • Anonymous

    How does this cut impact working people whose job does not offer healthcare and who don’t make enough money to buy private healthcare? It’s fairly simple to assume that all the people in this category don’t work but it’s a bit far from the truth.  Many of these people are the working poor.  

    Entitlements? I think pensions and lifetime healthcare we pay out to Governors, Senator, Mayors, etc.. are all entitlements we can’t afford.  All it takes for a politician to qualify for a lifetime perk like this is to be elected.  

    Most of the time to be partially or fully vested in a pension plan you have to be an employee who has worked and contributed to his/her pension for at least 10 years. We automatically “gift” a pension to our elected officials.  I’ve never known why since those seats can be so temporary.  I wonder how much could be saved if we ended the practice of automatic pensions and lifetime medical care for elected officials.  After all, elected officials are not employees and their role as public servant was never intended to be a career.  How come this costly and ever growing expense is never on the chopping block but healthcare and education always is?   

  • Anonymous

    MaineGOP.com /About/ rules-and-by-laws

    http://www.mainegop.com/about-2/rules-and-by-laws/

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t matter at what point the employer decides to give an employee health insurance. You’ve completely missed my point.     
    *******************************************************
    ok…I’m going to stand up now, your point went over my head!  lol  sorry—I thought your point was that employers intentionally hire people less than 40 hours to avoid having to provide health insurance and benefits. 

  • Anonymous

    Great!  And the critics usually gripe about welfare promoting having kids and larger familis on the dole.  Gues what this move does. Reinforces the have more kids policies.

  • Anonymous

    So where’s the bananas?  We don’t even have that.  Makes us even worse off.  “Maine Leads”, all right, even deeper into the sewer.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, they figured this out in about every other state years ago, states like Massachusetts and Vermont even! 

  • Anonymous

    I wish more people in our age group would read a post like yours and follow in your example. I am a bit older than you and yet I have experienced a lot of what you have. Keep going, I dont know you at all but I am proud of you.

  • Anonymous

    You would not nor would I do the fact that we have morals, have commonsense and have a responsible way of thinking. Others do not share this type of thinking.

  • Anonymous

    “In Canada, where the new president of the Canadian Medical Association has declared, ‘ We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize.’ See it across the Western world. See it and realize this: Americans deserve better. ” -encounter books

  • Anonymous

    Absolutly correct, except that a large portion of medicaid money is already spent on drug addicts flocking to emergency rooms all over the state at all hours of the night with unexplained complaints of pain and again given more drugs to feede the habit. This needs to stop…instead of taking the insurance away, have the drug addicts pay a co pay at the doors of the hospital ER’s. Chances are we will not see them as frequently and who knows if they cant get the drugs they seek hmmmm maybe they might clean up. Budgeting money is easy if you know what your doing. Making stipulations on hospital visits, allowing ambulance services to decline a free trip for a sore tooth, come on…there are ways. Is it really neccessary that prisoners, the ones usless to society, be treated better then our US children. Most of them have no future, our children do. Some without homes, food and clothing let alone free food, medical, Cable TV. Do prisoners need cable TV or should they be punished. One would think they gave up their rights when deciding to break the law. Almost all other countries punish law breakers. Im not sure if someone kills a child, that its fair the childs parent should be paying for the perps. care for the rest of their life. REALLY!!! Start making people accountable for their actions in this country, that may save a dime.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    If you go after parents with kids they always say you can’t punish the kids because the parents are bad.

  • Anonymous

    time to end the free ride for all that abuse the system? paul great job

  • Tyke

    Lepage did not eliminate Dirigo Health. He fully fiunded it i n his budget. Not one single  position was eliminated.

    They are still soliciting new applicants:
    http://www.dirigohealth.maine.gov/

    In fact in the past week or so his administration quietly admitted they are EXPANDING Dirigo to implement Federal health care reform. They have booked state government savings based on that reform (aka Obamacare). They don’t talk about that much either.

  • Tyke

    Actually Dirigo has seriously outperformed the private sector, which is why Lepage fully funded it in his budget.

    They don’t talk about that much though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Juniper-Jupiter/100000505486884 Juniper Jupiter

    Yeah, that 49% being the most of the ones on welfare.

    Nice try yourself.

  • Tyke

    Medicare does not cover 100% of medical costs. Older folks who can afford it get gap insurance , which is very expensive. Those who can’t afford qualify for Medicaid (MaineCare).

    Well, up till now they did.

    The elderly absolutely will be overwhelmingly effected!

  • Tyke

    Low income elderly are covered by both because Medicare does not cover all medial expenses, not by a long shot.

  • Tyke

    The low income elderly qualify for fully subsidized MaineCare supplimental. This proposal sounds like it will dump those folks and hand them out to dry.

  • Tyke

    Baldacci inherited billions in hospital debt and paid off  more than he left.

  • Anonymous

    Please do not insult people with intellectual disabilities.  Your choice of words shows your own ignorance as you try to insult others use of their brains.

  • Tyke

    We do balance our budget. The fact that you have so little understanding of government finances doesn’t make your lies true.

    Bonds are used to finance very long term capital projects so that the populations using them over time will pay for them equally.

    If you have enough money to pay all of your bills including your mortgage do you declare yourself “unable to balance your budget” because you will be paying on the mortgage for years?

    No, of course not.

    That would be dumb.

  • Tyke

    It’s working fine. The rating agencies have no problem with Maine’s fiscal soundness. Lepage and his minions have been spreading lies.

    again

  • Tyke

    They own a home in Florida just like our Governor, huh?

  • Tyke

    Medicare does not cover all medical expenses. Poor elderly folks have to use MaineCare as their supplemental insurance or go without prescriptions and other medical care.

    People will die if this safety net is eliminated.

  • Tyke

    Lepage used to spend many, many evenings at the Bob-In in Waterville before he got the nomination. Then he seemed to start drinking in secret.

    Secret drinking is a dangerous game and can lead to serious over consumption.

  • Tyke

    Elderly poor get both because Medicare does not cover anywhere near all medical expenses.

  • Tyke

    So your answer is to require everyone to work 80 hours at straight time … when unemployment is at record high levels.

    Do you even see the fallacy in that concept?

  • Tyke

    It was already proven and Nutting admitted he owed the money.

    his slimy little bankruptcy trick is on the records in the courts too!

  • Tyke

    Because his mother owns the garage and Don is just jealous.

    It’s not illegal to have relatives who own things when you are getting state aid.

  • Tyke

    So your claim is that the childless adults Lepage is referring to all owe back child support.

    How does that work exactly and whose children do they owe support for?

  • Tyke

    That may be the plan.

  • Anonymous

    No Apathy for Austerity!
    Resist Lepage Shock Therapy!

  • Tyke

    It would be possible to pass a few citizen’s initiatives that keep him form doing more damage. Also putting enough Democrats into either house of the legislature will stop him cold.

    Then we can just wait it out till the end of his term and we will be rid of him

  • Tyke

    It has to do with federal rules and federal funding.

  • Tyke

    A large percentage of the childless adults on MaineCare are the elderly who cannot afford supplemental insurance.

    Medicare does not come close to paying for all medical care and these folks will simply have to forgo care and stop taking their meds.

  • Tyke

    Three of the governors over your “40 years” were  not Democrats and Republicans controlled several sessions of the legislature over that period as well.

    Repeating a lie does not make it true.

  • Anonymous

    How about growing the economy.

    Legalize, Regulate, and Tax Marijuana and Industrial Hemp.

  • Anonymous

    Once again another scare tactic from Pitbull Lepage, 2/3 of the MaineCare money comes from federal money!! He cannot redo a federally funded program, and give tax breaks in the same breath. I really don’t understand where he is coming from. If he thinks $11 hr is good money as he stated in Millinocket, he should pledge to live off that with no outside source of money. If someone is paid $11 they still qualify for food stamps and Mainecare all federally funded programs, we are poor here not rich, he is shifting the cost of doing business for corporations onto the state programs then complaining because it costs too much. He ought to ask for the corporations to step up and pay health care, decent wage(above poverty level), and then we would not have people working on food stamps and mainecare!! An old fashioned republican he is not, old republicans owned businesses, owned the local stores, lived in a community and did not want to look bad, they treated their workers better because it was the right thing to do for everyone!!

  • Anonymous

    and you are a dimly lit bulb. why is it you and others cant understandthis type of thing.can not keep handing out to everyone all the time.you are part of a problem, in the way of a solution. where is your common sense???

  • Anonymous

    (This post was a response to Liberal Soup’s shout out for suggestions to balance the budget, for whatever reason didnt post where it shouldve.) 

  • Susan Westfall

    Insurance companies are in bed with the government. A true free market (instead of a regulated gov/corp mutant) would force insurance companies to compete for your business as well as the business of employers who will look for the best deal. Too many shenanigans with pay-outs and people would switch insurance companies pretty quick. Not enough coverage, choices, options, whatever and the company would go out of business. Free markets and real competition are always the consumer’s best friend, not the regulating arms of big government.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LYEXIGCNZ54QRVDDHK5SZOBSFA william c

    If she doesn’t get $41K then someone else would have.  I don’t necessarily agree with the choice but it was his decision to make.

  • Anonymous

    Tell that to someone’s disabled, elderly grandparent. They worked hard for years only to see their nest egg stolen, their social security threatened, and their medical care slashed. Who are you to say they don’t need Mainecare… The Governor?

  • Anonymous

    You don’t sound smart enough to earn minimum wage. In fact, I’d start you out with a training wage if I thought you might eventually become of some use. Never offer an opinion unless you understand the topic and have something to contribute.

  • Anonymous

    Do you have a formal diagnosis, or are your brains just running on fumes?

  • Anonymous

    I meant particularly nice whether.

  • Anonymous

    Or Aetna

  • Anonymous

    I can smell the foul are as we speak.

  • Anonymous

    Bankers love deficit spending but bond issues are always voted on by the public in elections in our communities. A state occupied by 1.2 Million people isn’t in bad shape with $18 million in debt. NO it’s not billion.

  • Anonymous

    Siskelland Ebert in Canada don’t even do business with the State of Maine. They have not rated us. We never asked them to. They don’t do it for free. They wouldn’t do it even if you asked them to unless they thought it was in their best interests and you paid them handsomely for the service. The State of Maine doesn’t have a Standard and Poore’s rating for the reasons I just gave. Don’t worry about it.

  • Anonymous

    That might be a bit harsh. LePage would have to at least have the IQ to suspect the truth, so technically he is confabulating and delusional. 

  • Anonymous

    You’re just plain wrong. In a macroeconomy money is like life’s blood. When it flows properly in healthy ways everybody benefits. When people start trying to “save” money or somebody, and I’ve gotta tell you people though you should already know this, the Federal Reserve can release more money it has already printed but won’t distribute because the Tea Baggging TeaPartiers won’t stand for it. But it’s business as usual. The Earth’s population is growing, the economy is expanding but the Uber Rich and their supposedly so smart tax lawyers are fight hard against wage and benefit increases because their wealth will go down due to inflation. What they haven’t been told is that the increased business will more than double their wealth in many cases over the next 20 years. No customers, no employees, no business, no reason to keep them around. No reason to keep them alive. Does anyone besides me see where this is going? I know this for a fact. I say Fukkum.

  • Wolf Gray

    Because encouraging people to have children they cannot afford so they can have the healthcare they need is a better solution.  As I was told when I was 19 and needed healthcare: “Have children!” (by a Maine DHS worker.)

  • Anonymous

    Default is a passive term. It’s not an action that any entity takes but rather the lack of action an entity takes. I hope this is helpful.

  • Anonymous

    States are Corporations comprised of the Corporations in that State. Corporations can file for bankruptsy under certain codes.

  • OldWench

    There are 375-400 millionaires who live in Maine and pay taxes here.  If you aren’t on that list then the “evil liberals” you keep attacking on here are not looking to raise your taxes.  In fact, they want to ease your burden by making those who actually won’t miss it to stop getting tax breaks and pay their fair share.  Not sure why anyone complaining about not being able to afford things due to taxes are so against that idea.  Perhaps if they stopped listening to the talking points of pundits and actually did some research on issues it would help…

  • OldWench

    Employers for lower income jobs hire more people at part time hours so they don’t have to pay benefits.  Layoffs happen more in tough economies as well.  If all employers had to offer health insurance then this wouldn’t be an issue.  Do you provide insurance to your employees?  Do they all get full time hours with sick pay and vacation time?  Do they get paid holidays off?  I bet you don’t.

  • OldWench

    Back then medical costs weren’t anywhere near as inflated as they are now.

  • OldWench

    Those 30 babies were not conceived by immaculate conception.  Where the heck are the fathers and why don’t they support their children?  If Maine has such a high amount of single mothers on welfare then Maine has an awful lot of useless men.

  • OldWench

    The cost of health care, for one.

  • OldWench

    Single payer universal health care won’t work in the US because Americans insist on having the freedom to CHOOSE.  What WILL work here, however, is a public option.  Allow people to buy into medicaid on a sliding fee scale based on income and allow private insurers to compete.  It will drive prices down because the environment will be more competitive.  It’s not like these insurance companies are going to all run to another country to set up shop.  All other countries have universal health care or people are too poor to buy their product.  Since everyone will be able to get insurance it will lower the added costs for covering expenses for uninsured people being passed on.  It’s the only logical choice that would actually work and stands a chance at passing and being easily implemented.

  • OldWench

    It would have IF there were a public option.

  • Anonymous

    This entire issue goes away with National universal healthcare.  Too bad the medical field and insurance companies are allowed to spend millions and millions on lobbying, false advertizing, and every deceptive manner to convince the American ignorant masses that its a bad thing.

  • OldWench

    The ONLY thing Mainers can do to stop this madness is vote ONLY for Democrats next year and give control of the legislature to the Democrats.  That will stop LePage in his tracks.  He won’t be able to do anything else to harm Mainers.

  • Anonymous

    As America becomes poorer by the day communism will become more prevalent.

  • Anonymous

    People who abuse any system don’t deserve it … including Governors.

    The responsibility of a Governor is to lead a state in the search for ways to provide for the well-being of all of it’s citizens. To suggest that unless individuals have dependent children at home, are disabled or pregnant that they don’t deserve to be eligible for MaineCare is another example of Paul LePage’s abusive mentality.

    He gets away with it because, like others of his ilk, he wraps his abuse in the now common verbiage of “waste elimination” or “government poverty.” Both are carefully crafted branding irons created by the Righteous Right to marginalize human beings they have never met to achieve selfish ends.

    Why are non-disabled adults less deserving of medical care than anyone else? They’re not.

    But the LePage mindset will indignantly insist that the portrait of such an individual is characterized by sloth. They are ungrateful leaches sucking the blood from hard working Mainers while they enjoy lavish lifestyles and amuse themselves with drug induced euphoria.

    Most people I speak with have no concept of who the categorized (the “UnCats.”) actually are nor how many really good men and women who have worked hard all of their lives and have been trampled by our recent financial Armageddon. I am an UnCat and I deeply resent it.

    Expletive which exploded from the Governor during his recent tantrum concerning the unemployed is the proof of this pudding and Mainers are getting sick of the recipe he’s serving.

  • Anonymous

    Our governor is a dim wit. Why do people continue to expect smart ideas from someone with the I.Q. of a Monitor lizard? Tax cuts for the wealthy, cut social services, and bully anyone who disagrees with you. If nothing else, the guy is predictable. 

  • Anonymous

    Kick them off Maine Care where they go into an office to see a doctor and send them to the emergency room for medical services under the Hale-Burton Act. ER visits are much cheaper! lol. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    they can pay the medical bill on a payment plan

    With What?

  • Anonymous

    Don’t fall for the fear mongering tactics of other posters here. The old and disabled will not be affected by these cuts. The other posters are just trying to convince everyone that they need the government to take care of them, because they are to lazy to take care or themselves.

  • StillRelaxin

    Well I do suppose that’s true assuming there’s a calling out there for soft sympathetic shoulders. At 41K with benefits I’m sure had the position of “Official Shoulder Bearer” been opened up to the general public even a few folks who’d like to slap Mr. LePage up beside the head might have applied. Unfortunately no other shoulders were given the opportunity to apply. YOUR (William) government at work. We can and will do better in the 2012 election cycle.

  • Anonymous

    With the cigarette and beer money they always seem to have.

  • Anonymous

    Gez that’s an old BS line and so untrue.

  • Anonymous

    Thats discrimination against people who couldn’t have kids or didn’t want to brimg any into this corrupt selfish world.
     

  • Anonymous

    Merry Christmas to Governor LePage and all the hard working republicans who will now see more savings due to this great man.  Happy Holidays to the dems who are politically correct and like to sit at home and get stoned while others work.

  • Anonymous

    Geez people, you still don’t get it!!!

    We are already paying for the uninsured in many ways:
    1) care for the uninsured is built into the rates that the people who have insurance pay
    2) care for the uninsured is built into the taxes that the people of Maine pay
    3) care for the uninsured is built into the rates that hospitals and doctors charge

    I could go on and on, but the fact is, WE ALREADY HAVE A MANDATORY PUBLIC HEALTH CARE SYSTEM!  I am so tired of a group of people who constantly argue against government health care.  People, you have been paying into a government health care system for years, and yet, the people who pay for their insurance get no benefit.  The reason behind a national health care plan is to distribute the cost among every citizen of the United States.

    The wealthy will always be able to get better health care, because they can afford it.  It’s the large group of people who are just getting by that will benefit from a national health care system.  Even the worst, mismanaged government health care system is better than no system at all.

    I am not in favor of government intervention when private providers can do the same thing.  BUT, the private providers have dropped the ball, right on the heads of the consumers. The huge commissions and bonuses that are paid in the insurance industry are just aw bad as what the bankers have been getting.  One agent was paid over $200K per year for being an agent of record for a large group.   No one even knew they had an agent of record until they forced the insurance company to actually provide financial statement.

    As far as people spending their life savings for health care, that is what your life savings is for.  You save for a rainy day, and if that rain comes in the form of illness, you still stay dry and pay for it with your savings.  The state of Maine has spent it’s rainy day fund.  I don’t care for LePage, but he has to make some tough choices, and I admire him for taking the insurance bull by the horns.  I still wish he would keep his lip zipped, or stick to a carefully prepared script!

    I would like for someone, anyone, to offer a clear concise picture of what needs to be done to fix healthcare in the USA!   But, it just isn’t going to happen.  There is too much greed on everyone’s part.

  • Anonymous

    Your best solution to depend on a liberals charity ? 

    Seriously , what is the conservative real plan ? 

    WHAT ARE THEIR DEMANDS BESIDES NO NEW TAXES, EVER,
    NOT EVEN GOING BACK  TO THE SAME RATE AS WHEN THE FED. BUDGET WAS LAST BALANCED, 
    (Before Bush, BTW)

  • Anonymous

    ‘it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.”Are there no prisons?”‘Plenty of prisons,’ said the gentleman, laying down the  pen again.’And the Union workhouses.’ demanded Scrooge. ‘Are  they still in operation?”Both very busy, sir.’ ’Oh. I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,’ said Scrooge. ‘I’m very glad to hear it.”Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,’ returned the gentleman, ‘a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?’ ’Nothing!’ Scrooge replied. ’You wish to be anonymous?’ ’I wish to be left alone,’ said Scrooge. ‘Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don’t make merry myself at Christmas and I can’t afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned-they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.”Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.’ ’If they would rather die,’ said Scrooge, ‘they had better  do it, and decrease the surplus population.”
    Ho, ho, ho.                                             deathmaking                                  – look it up.

  • Anonymous

    TAKE IT AWAY FROM ALL THE IMMAGRANTS WHO HAS TAKEN IT AWAY FROM MAINERS WHO IT WAS INTENDED FOR !!

  • Anonymous

    I hate lying haters. 

    8 )

  • classiccarnut

    you can only rob peter to pay paul for so long

  • Anonymous

    IM SURE THEY DO , IM SURE EVERYONE OF THEM HAVE A MAINECARE CARD — I DONT AND I CANT AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE . I AM OVER THE SO CALLED POVERTY LEVEL BY A COUPLE POINTS !!

  • Anonymous

    A great place to cut would be the full time benefits for legislators who are part time employees.

  • Anonymous

    It is sad when someone working cannot afford insurance, but if one is irresponsible enough to have babies they cannot support finacially; we will insure them. Can you say birth control!  

  • Anonymous

    DUH! It isn’t about health care medical care  in my situation. It is about INCOME! Medicare started deducting from my already too small SS income when I turned 65. The DHS, Mainecare, kicked in because my income is below the poverty level. THEY PAY NOW $100.00  EVERY MONTH IN MY BEHALF TO WASHINGTON DC INTO THE GENERAL MEDICARE KITTY. I use very little of that $1.200. for my health care as I am healthy!  So for 7 years Mainecare has been funding Whose? health care on my behalf. If I lose $100. out of my SS income, $1,200. for the year……………I will not be able to get  by and my health will surely go down hill.
     It says on my SS annual statement, ["Your SS benefits are protected against inflation. BY LAW They increase when there is a rise in the cost of living. The Government measures changes in the cost of living increase through the Dept of Labour's Consumer Price index, (CPI). The CPI has NOT risen since the last CPI living adjustment was determined in 2008 ( YEH, two thousand eight, the year of the economic crisis! ) As a result your benefits WILL NOT increase in 2011.!"]
    How about that? OJ has gone from $1.79 a can of frozen concentrate, to $2.19 a can. $0.60 cent increase. THAT IS VITAMIN C- essential to maintaining good health!
    WHO CAN AFFORD TO BUY CONSUMER GOODS ( THEIR ( DOL) YARDSTICK TO MEASURE INFLATION) ALL I BUY IS FOOD & FUEL………..NOW I WILL HAVE TO PURCHASE MY OWN HEALTH PLAN OR PAY IF I GET SICK, WHILE HAVING $1,200. LESS A YEAR TO WORK WITH?
    There is one way to solve the problem……we have all been given insufficient funds to heat our homes by LIHEAP, past Jan. dead elders all over the state.? What fun…….wonder where LePage is vacationing this year for xmas?

  • Anonymous

    Better oversight of physician prescribing practices would virtually eliminate the prescription drug abuse problem. 

    As soon as you can articulate for us  a way to hold an uneducated, drug addicted, mentally ill, accidental parent responsible for failing to care for his/her child, in a way that causes them start to care for their child, I’ll sign onto your plan.  Until then you are just blowing smoke.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have insurance. My husband makes too much money for me to get MaineCare, he makes $25,000. per year net. I have recently had to have several tests that have cost alot of money. The hospitals are very helpful in setting up a payment plan you can afford. You can’t spend what you don’t have, so the people of the State of Maine should support any plans to cut our budget. Also, Gov. LePage should increase the taxes on the rich to help balance the budget, they don’t pay their fair share.

  • Anonymous

    disabled or elderly are not the ones on mainecare, they are on medicare & medicaid like the rest of the population

  • Anonymous

    cruel!  it’s cruel that I can’t afford my own heat because I’m strapped paying for adults who need a second job.  we work four jobs.  they need to do the same.

  • Anonymous

    That’s what we have to do.  We’ve always got a monthly payment on some medical/dental bill.

  • Anonymous

    See, figures.  You didn’t read the article.  He wants to slash for ADULTS WITH NO DEPENDENT CHILDREN, NOt PREGNANT AND  ’NOT’ READ THIS WORD AGAIN, ‘NOT’ DISABLED.  The ‘tru;y’ disabled and elderly will continue to get medicare if they need it.

  • Anonymous

    Correct!  A government big enough to take care of you is big enough to control you, and that is the way it’s going.  

  • Anonymous

    That should be slashed as well.  Only for the kids. The adults can pay their own way.

  • Anonymous

    Relax, it’ll be all right.  Your taxes might even end up somewhere near reasonable.

  • Anonymous

    Marxist.

  • Anonymous

    Money from their four jobs.  That’s how we do it.  Oh yeah, right, they don’t want jobs.  Then I don’t give a crap how they pay them.

  • Anonymous

    I fear that a very high percentage of people reading and posting on here actually think you know about what you type.  You are incorrect JasonWeb and such misinformation makes it impossible for meaningful discourse.

  • Anonymous

    Go Paul!  You’re doing what you were elected to do.  Refreshing.

  • acadiashores

    It is honestly better for them to have insurance.  Why?  Hospitals that take public money cannot refuse care if somebody does not have the ability to pay and comes in with an emergency.  If people start doing this instead of getting preventative care the hospitals will eventually go under.  Then we will all be in trouble.

  • OldWench

    Mainecare IS Medicaid, and yes, many elderly are on it because Medicare doesn’t provide adequate coverage.  

  • Anonymous

    The legisvermin get full time benefits for a part time job. Pigs will fly before that is cut.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I get it now, if I have a baby I cannot afford I get free insurance! When will we be held responsible for our choices? Birth control is free too!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    Dislike because you look around and only see lazy males in your family, no wonder you dislike.

  • http://www.Verizonsucksass.com Johnny Test

    I agree with the gov, but not I see a baby boom coming

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CATDCLORQXHORDPFKVWQS3CJYU James

    A wealthy Seattle couple has been accused in a lawsuit of cheating the
    government out of more than $100,000 in welfare funds.

    Federal prosecutors filed suit against Lyudmila Shimonova and David
    Silverstein in civil court Friday, and federal agents raided their $1.2 million
    lakefront home.
    In the lawsuit, federal authorities said the couple received $135,000 in
    federal housing assistance, plus money from a federal program for destitute
    disabled people and a state program meant to feed poor families. Meanwhile, they
    allegedly were taking international vacations to locales like Paris, Moscow, and
    the Dominican
    Republic, said a Department Housing and Urban Development special agent.

    “All these programs are need-based programs, meaning that a person can
    qualify for the programs only if he or she demonstrates that his or her income
    or resources fall below a certain level,” the HUD agent told the court. “The
    investigation has developed substantial evidence that the subjects defrauded
    these programs by misrepresenting and concealing material information.”

    To obtain the welfare cash, the couple pretended they were not married and
    that Shimonova was renting the residence from Silverstein, investigators said.
    But Silverstein, a chiropractor, claims to be “happily married with two
    children” on his business website. Prosecutors believe the couple is
    married.

    The government is seeking full repayment and has asked that both be fined
    $11,000 for each false claim they made to the government.

    Link: http://www.fox8.com/news/nationworld/kcpq-feds-accuse-couple-living-in-seattle-mansion-of-welfare-fraud-20111205,0,3276712.story

  • MaineHiker

    My house:  Low SSDI fixed income. Maine-care needed and relied upon. The State of Maine and the feds need to stop trying to balance “?” the budget by squeezing the very poor and giving tax breaks to the top 1%.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not really a fan of Lepage or any of his plans, but I really can’t see anything wrong with this plan, the only people that are going to be effected are the people that can work and choose not to. When I was single  I didn’t have insurance and I was working (my company provided insurance, I opted not to have it), now I have a family and I have insurance. I know in some areas its almost impossible to find a job, but 19,000 people on mainecare just because they have a low income seems a little high. 

  • Anonymous

    Go, Governor, Go!!!!!!!!

  • midmainer

    I have an idea. Since Mr lePage is a childless adult, and he is on the dole here in Maine, he should cut his state provided health care.

  • Anonymous

    Mainecare is Medicaid in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Groucho or Harpo?

  • Anonymous

    Another “BRIGHT” decision. Now, all those who need to stay on the system will get pregnant, and become disabled. The “No Brainers” in Augusta need to think up some more dumb ideas as they have… Fine Job Gov.!!

  • Anonymous

    Merry Christmas to the Koch brothers who own most of the Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    She was saying services should be available in the North versus the expense of travel.  You are the most acluistic poster with such a violent streak I have ever read.  I see they removed your post referencing someone’s daughter.  You don’t understand what someone is saying, then you comment.  Both fromwaldoco and sassykatt01 make relevant points worthy of discussion, not your violent tirade.

  • Anonymous

    Where do you get YOUR statistics?

  • Anonymous

    Jesus Christ LePage!  Amen!

  • Anonymous

    I worked jobs for years that didn’t pay health insurance and I didn’t  apply to the State to provide it.  And when I did get a job that provided health insurance I paid over $400 a month out of my paycheck for those benefits.   So take those 19,000 people off this “benefit” . We can’t afford it.

  • Anonymous

    Sure the rich are putting SO MUCH back into the economy, Jon Corzine is great example.  Company is bankrupt, thousands of people are now out of work.

  • Anonymous

    You keep on believing that BS. We weathered the depression by pulling together to care for our neighbors, not kicking them to the curb. 5 decades of prosperity followed. Once the “capitalists” perverted our laws with their self serving laws, the entire thing has come crashing down. Regulation and social safety nets make for healthy societies with opportunity for all. Unrestrained capitalism results in mass poverty and rampant theft and corruption.

    History has meany lessons to teach. You might want to try reading some of it so your posts are not antithetical to actual history.

  • Anonymous

    Not everyone can afford to buy there own congressman!

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t you already tell us it was 80%?  Where did you get your GED?

  • Anonymous

    On couple in another State.

    What is your point?

  • Anonymous

    “tax the last few remaining business’s…” Hardly the point. The problems facing our economy are related to concentration in a small number of companies. Six banks now control 2/3 of all economic activity in this country. They pay very little in taxes in the US. This is because they now write the laws and hand them to our lawmakers, with a check for their next campaign.

    If we reeled in the corruption and had “corporate” people paying their fair share we have enough revenue to accomplish great things like what they are doing in China. Your policies are basically giving up on the American Dream and promoting wage slavery in place of caring for the sick and disabled.

    If you work the kind of job that involves using your hands or your back, the conservative solutions will guarantee you a miserable future. This party is all about coddling the rich with corporate welfare and removing all barriers to lower wages.

    If your back is getting sore, it isn’t due to your neighbors. Just look at where the money is going…it isn’t going to the poor, it’s going to subsidize the very rich. You have been lied to.

  • Anonymous

    ..but wait.. the same group that wants to eliminate SS and medicare is against birth control and abortion… now what??? 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah I hear the social darwinism argument a lot. We are headed back in time. America in ten years will look like Dickens come to life.

  • Anonymous

    He didn;t.. he is a mouth piece… IE someone here to push an agenda…. talking points and constant hammering … looks like a plant to me…

  • Anonymous

    Why should adults with children be covered either?  It provides and incentive for pregnancy as an entre to not only TANF but MaineCare for those that could be working.  Leave the benefit for children and the disabled only.  I mean really disabled, not those with some self induced “inability” to work and a methadone or MJ card.

  • Anonymous

    You missed the part where he actually has a job and its a benefit provided by his employer.  The difference being, he EARNS the coverage.

  • Anonymous

    Conservatives are sure confused.

    They like to rant about how the very poor should not have children
    as it puts a strain on the welfare system.

    BUT  they want to reward very poor people for having children
    by giving them health insurance.

    And they punish the people who are doing what they (conservatives)
    have been advocating all along – not starting families
    until they can afford it – by denying these more “responsible” people insurance.

    What ignorance!

  • Anonymous

    The problem is you appear to have relied on SS as a retirement plan.  It is not and never was intended to be that.  It is a subsistence level safety net only.  That erroneous perception is a root cause of the entitlement mentality you exhibit here and the inevitable dissatisfaction when those expectations are not met, again, as you demonstrate.

    We as a society have to disabuse ourselves of the idea that  brother is going to take care of us and start planning to take care of ourselves.  Retirement savings and planning are every ones individual responsibility, not the Governments. 

  • Anonymous

    How shortsighted can our governor be?  Cut off health Medicaid and they wind up very sick at the “can’t turn them away” ER with much more expensive problems.  
    One (THE) solution is universal health care and get all those administrative and insurance cost out of health care.
    Another way, since the governor and his minions have no fortitude for raising taxes, go ahead and cut state support for education and force municipalities to raise property taxes to pay for education.  That’s shortsighted and regressive but I’m sure it would be endorsed by his friends at Maine Heritage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y3AXQVNDVKK5OL7F2JGONIRWMI Mainer50

    The non-category is not as easy as what one would believe.  This has been a bone of contention for years.  The non-category criteria for income changes from month to month.  One month, one can earn up to $2000 a month, then in the next month that amount can drop to $800.  If one makes just one dollar more then the $800.  One is dropped.  It’s easy to sit back and say only spend what you can make, but it’s another to have to live on unemployment and your too young to retire, too old to have kids and not disabled enough to get disability.  They say having a college degree can help….IT DON’T.  Getting older is not for the feign of heart.  

  • Anonymous

    Really!  Please go…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AMYPBQTFGQI44IAAXMTB5GVOYM David

    Under Obamacare rules, children up to age 24 are now covered under their parent’s/s’ health insurance.  I had no problem with putting my 21 and 23 year olds who don’t have insurance back under our workplace healthcare umbrella this past February.  I’ve been paying family premiums anyway because of my younger kids.
    .
    I wonder how many other 18-24 year olds Mainecare is covering now, SHOULD be covered back under the dependent coverage their parent(s) have?  Haven’t seen that mentioned by anyone.

  • Anonymous

    Oh gosh, some a couple in Seattle, Washington gamed the system for 12 thousand a year for 10 years. That’s about half of what Washington County tax-payers were paying for one part-time County Commissioner’s health insurance. Bank of  America took 2.3 trillion dollars of interest free money from the United States tax-payers, some of which they lent back to the tax-payers and charged them 13 billion dollars for lending us our own money.  Get your feather’s all ruffled about some couple 3000 miles away, but if Maine could get a few Billion interest free, we could eliminate that big old interest payment on our debt. Fox doesn’t want to tell you that though, they want you to focus on some couple in Washington State.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t get your camouflage panties in a bunch.

  • Anonymous

    Why not just insure the children and not the parents? Why should you receive free insurance just because you have kids. Maybe people would think twice about having children that they can not afford to support…

  • Anonymous

    thats the additional 16,000 that enrolled when it was opened up to them.

  • Anonymous

    Really?  I’m very interested for you to provide the statistics for this. 

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t see in the article you posted that the governor cut taxes for the rich.

  • Anonymous

     patre ought!
    Well I did not have any other options. My husband was rebelling against his thrifty parents,and earned and spent! So I divorced him, was on my own raising 2 children, NO HELP; child support/ gov. assistance.I am hardly a “shop til you drop” type like the MAJORITY OF   YOUNG PEOPLE seem to be today!I drive a 29 year old diesel rabbit that still gets 50 m p g  ( & have since 1981) & DON:T LEAVE IT RUNNING WHILE SHOPPING AS SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE in their honkin BIG 15 mpg SUV’s DO TODAY. ( gotta keep the baby/dog warm or cool) Talk about a sense of entitlement! “The Earth’s resources are infinite AND I DESERVE THEM, because I have a family!? Disconnect much?At the time when I could have made a retirement account.Neil bush comporomised the US banking system & rules with his Siliverado theft, and several years later after the stock market crash of 1987,  I was closed out of my money market account ( Smith Barney)  because they arbitrarily decided that one needed a minimum of $  5 ,000. to participate.I have had 2 tenants weasel out of a years rent by declaring bankruptcy.
    I worked 24/7 for  20 years, think I am deserving of my rightful Social security RETURN ON INVESTMENT, such as  my Great Grandparents did. They were comfortable into their mid ninties!
    A large part of the problem is narrow minded self satisfied people like you who keep voting in the crooks!

  • Anonymous

    “Bankers love deficit spending”

    So do the GOTea  Party Congressional Freshman Class, even if they say otherwise, then.  Otherwise they would have allowed the tax rates to return to what they were the last time the Federal Budget was balanced. 

    Just a  fact. 
    Look at the record.

  • Anonymous

    The elderly, and disabled under age 65, qualify for Medicare through Social Security, both Federal programs.

    Likewise, the low income elderly and disabled, under 65, Maine population can also qualify, according to strict income guidelines, for State ie Medicaid/Mainecare ‘Premium Buy In’ programs and have ‘Mainecare’ (formerly ‘Medicaid’) as a secondary insurance to Medicare.
    The combination covers prescription co-pays and some other limited services in addition – since Part D was added to Medicare Parts A & B in 2004, and unpaid for, by George W. Bush.

    In the past, Chellie Pingree, and others nationwide, attempted to use state collective buying power to negotiate prices with pharmaceutical companies because patients were heading to Canada, by the busload, to purchase their medicines.

    It’s still a problem, even though circumstances and criteria have changed slightly.

    Bottom line is people on low fixed incomes, for whatever reason, still can’t afford medical costs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Heartfelt Spruce, but you know that Maine cannot afford it.  Your tax cut argument doesn’t hold muster. 

  • http://www.cwdatarecovery.com Curt Carver

    Look! Allwe have to do is see who is buying BOOZE and DRUGS receiving food stamps and take away the food stamp card that would cut money being spent.

  • Anonymous

    What makes you think its the younger population who are without children and covered. In fact, there is quite a lot of people who are covered under Mainecare without children who are probably too old to have children. Older than 40 but younger than 62.

  • Anonymous

    as governor toad says”bull sh*t

  • Anonymous

    If you dont have to pay the bill, you wouldn’t think twice about that trip to the E.R. for your pregnancy test, ace bandage, or the other minor crap people go in for. Mainecare is years behind their bill to the hospital due to this. Something needs to be adjusted and they have to start somewhere.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll bet he’s looking at a fat Christmas bonus that could probly have been cut to save on the budget.

  • Anonymous

    While it would seem that only those currently covered under Medicaid would be impacted if this coverage is stopped, as one who has served as a volunteer board member of one of Maine’s rural hospitals, such is not the case.  When uninsured people show up at an ER, they usually are much sicker than those who get preventive care, and the hospital gets stuck, and as those unreimbursed costs accrue the hospital will need to up its rates for those with insurance or cash, a form of cost-shifting.  So you & I – with health insurance – will pay for those services through increased premiums rather than through taxes.
     
    My father ran a small business in the County, and struggled to provide basic health coverage to employees.  And though a stanch Republican (of the Teddy Roosevelt sort), as he looked across the Boundary Line to Canada, he saw their single-payer model (upon which the U.S. Medicare program was modeled) as something worth emulating.  If we are serious about getting the cost of health care to a reasonable level – the United States spends an estimated $2 trillion annually on healthcare expenses, more than any other industrialized country – we must do something different, and the sooner the better.  Nearly every developed country has some model of universal access…and most spend half as much of their GNP as the U.S. does, and have better outcomes/overall health status. 
    T. R. Reid, who recently wrote “The Healing of America” spoke recently down in this part of the State last month, and made a LOT of sense.  He looked at a fair number of other countries, including France, Germany, Japan, the U.K., and Canada, all of which are democratic, fully engaged in market economies, and have differing systems that cover everyone…and they are all less expensive than ours.  Check it out.

  • http://www.cwdatarecovery.com Curt Carver

    Look each and everyone of you are growing old and some sooner than others. Who knows when we may need help. What happens if there is no help. Dig the cotton out of your ears and listen to the facts.
    Thank you .

  • Nichole Stevens

    You must be one the 600 wealthiest Mainer’s that received a tax cut from Mr. LePage through re-tooling the estate tax.  That cost the tax payers 100 million and he is going to off set it by hurting the poor.  Seems fair too those wrapped up in all this class warfare.  Merry Christmas to all you poor folk@!

  • Anonymous

    By his own words, LePage was making over $200,000 a year at Marden’s, or about $96 per hour.

  • moog98

    I’m concerned about how the single poor will afford treatment for their substance abuse issues and get their acts together without Mainecare.

  • http://www.cwdatarecovery.com Curt Carver

    Dept Of HHS don’t montor the way food stamp card are used. I say If you can afford to buy

    Booze, Drugs ,If you can afford to buy Food . Make sure that each person whom uses a food stamp card is not buying Booze in cash. You will Save Big just buy cutting off the cheaters who take advanged of the system. And Quit spending money so the drugies can get a free High.
    We the people pay for their habbit with our hard earn taxes

  • DonHorchKingofMen

    Well,not exactly.He does have a daughter,but he got her a nice 40k+ job doing,um,what was it again?

  • Anonymous

    While at times I might feel certain people are “useless,” my faith teaches that we are all brothers & sisters…that we are all valuable in God’s sight.  And as one who tries to practice The Golden Rule, it would seem that everyone should have access to healthcare.

    And of course, the lack of health care is among the highest causes for bankruptcy and morgage forclosure, as if those individuals chose to be sick or injured.

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t her PCP handle the Pre-authorization for you?  That person should have been your biggest advocate, bypassing any need for an appeal ‘to the highest level’ by you. Codeine is not well-tolerated by a lot of people. It’s not uncommon.

    I would complain directly to the administrator’s office.

    I’d also like to add that experiences like yours and your daughter’s are why there should be Medicare for all.

    The program works for patients.

  • Guest

    Wrong again, reread your post. I think you meant healthy DISLIKE not like. Don’t be so f… stupid.

  • Anonymous

    We do not live in a “Banana Republic” by any stretch of the imagination. 

    The solution is not as simple as taxing people, when you have 50 separate states that are part of the United States and thus live by a similar set of rules, then states must “compete” with each other. This means that if our tax policies are unfavorable to any particular group of people, those people will either not move here, or will move away, and then your unfavorable tax policies will have to shift towards another group of people. And eventually you will hit upon a group of people, such as the middle class, who may not be able to move out and instead will be sent into poverty. So in other words, the government has to be run effectively and efficiently, they must live within their means. Cuts have to be made somewhere, and no matter where those cuts are people will always have a problem with it.

  • Anonymous

    Save it. That’s what he/she implied ie that transportation costs are an added drain because people have to travel from where they live to apppointments and the state is picking up the tab.

  • Guest

    I agree with you. Government should cut true waste. Things like not buying supplies that are overpriced and other ways. Cutting from the top and not the bottom. Stop giving themselves large raises and perks each year.

  • Guest

    Do you really think that after these cuts your taxes will be any lower? Just asking.

  • Guest

    Start flagging this guy.

  • Anonymous

    get educated and get a good job that pays for these benefits, that’s what my wife and I did.

  • Anonymous

    There are a LOT of medical practices in this state now where you pay for your services based on your ability… I have a job, but my employer offers no benefits, and I went to PCHC to get a teeth cleaning for less than 20 dollars… And honestly, there would be more money for Mainecare if it wasn’t being abused… you don’t need to rush your child to the emergency room for every runny nose…. I think people would appreciate this system more if they exercised a little more common sense. 

  • Anonymous

    thats why you need to move up the chain in the company you work for, getting the better pay, that’s what I do, I don’t rely on others to do it for me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

    “No administration wants to take away anything from anyone…”

    Liar, liar, pants on fire!!

  • Anonymous

    They are incredibly confused.

  • Anonymous

    I guess maybe you did not recognize the sarcasm of that poster.

  • Guest

    zero

  • Guest

    How many times did you watch it?

  • Anonymous

    No, he thinks you have a responsibility to pay some yourself.

  • Nichole Stevens

    Good call, lynne14.  That comment was intended to be in response to Swampduck.  Fail.

  • Guest

    resposibily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    How about give it to those who are poor but have not had children to make a living?  And while we are at it, let’s offer some tuition assistance to those who have not had children in order to qualify for education dollars allocated to help single parents.  We wonder as a society why we continue to see the same end results — it’s because we continue to reward the  same population for the same behavior.

  • Anonymous

    “ITSTOO: “Just like my house, we can only spend what we earn.,

    So is your solution, to take an oath not to increase your income, like the conservative GOTea  Congressman ?

  • Anonymous

    The truth hurts-let the crybabies wail away.

  • Guest

    Contractors working under the table not claiming their wages. They do not pay taxes, collect general assistance, get Maine Care, Food Stamps. It is very hard to go after fraud and prove it.

  • Anonymous

    I would be willing to wager that the rampant ‘drug addict in the ER at midnight’ problem is vastly overstated. There isn’t a trained, ethical hospital staff physician who prescribes pain killers willy nilly.

    Rather, there are actually some patients in real pain at all hours of the day. Chronic pain patients require specialists who are anesthesiologists by training, primarily, who operate Pain Clinics.

    Conversation would be so boring if not for sweeping generalizations and the occasional blatant stereotype thrown in, n’est ce pas?

  • Anonymous

    Governor “Bullshit” needs to have a sympathetic shoulder around. Wouldn’t you want one as well if no one liked you?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll ask again”  what’s wrong with a single payer universal health insurance that would cover everybody and save the taxpayers money.   If we had such a plan the question of whom to deny medical care would not require any discussion.  No one would be denied.   Someone tell me what is wrong with this plan?

  • Anonymous

    You for got to include Big Pharma.

    Insurance companies add nothing to the quality of health care in the US. They primarily shuffle paper only in attempts to deny coverage for medical conditions they don’t understand against paying customers whom they’ve likely never even met. Often times they succeed in doing just that, too!

    That’s why I say there should be Medicare for all. It works for patients.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.harvell Tom Harvell

    Insurance companies would go out of business. This would cost a lot of people a lot of money… Yep that’s about it. “Money before life” has been the rallying cry of the GOP (and the constant secrete whisper of the Dems.) for the last few years. 

  • Anonymous

    Ummm, $18B…?  Not in this lifetime.

    lol

  • Anonymous

    Only a intellectually challenged anarchist thinks taxation is confiscation. 

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Redistribution of wealth is by definition the confiscation of wealth for the purpose of redistributing to others. Barack Obama has publicly stated he is an advocate of wealth redistribution. “Joe the Plumber” flushed that one out during the 2008 campaign.

  • Anonymous

    Two full time minimum jobs??????!!!!!!!!  That ‘s 16 hours/day not counting double travel time.  That’s 18 hours +/day and no health insurance, no pension, no job security no sick leave, no vacation and almost no hope moving up a job responsibility and salary ladder.    And you think every jobless, disabled, older, mentally challenged, isolated worker inMaine should be doing this.   You’re all heart.   How long do you want this couple to keep this up?  Let’s run an experiment and see how many years you can do it.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    With no children to support and care for, individuals should be expected to care for themselves if they are able bodied. Are you suggesting that wealth be redistributed to provide for the leisure of the “have nots”?

  • Anonymous

    That is because you provide no intelligent solution. I suppose you want the government to do everything for you?

  • Anonymous

    I have a job and a college education, two children and am a single mom.  I cannot afford health insurance and we are on mainecare.  Mainecare’s dental policy does not cover anything for adults, unless there is an emergency with an infected tooth.  I would LOVE to get my own isnurance if there was a policy available that I could afford.  The last policy I had that was paid by me was over $900 a month.  Everyone’s situation is different and sometimes there is no way to cut any more from the budget.  I go to PVHC for dental and to get a cleaning and an exam cost me $90 ($45 copay for each visit).  That is on the discounted plan.  They get almost the same amount of money because they make you come in for separate visits for x-rays, exams, and cleanings.  No savings there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.harvell Tom Harvell

    Ok. What happens if the company you work for closes up shop.  Your out of work. Your cobra runs out and that day you find out you have cancer. By your logic it’s that person fault. 

  • Anonymous

    ….no just another disenfranchised Republican. The Liberal’s can have it…after they get done saving the North Woods and designating the rest of the state as a federal wildlife sanctuary…then there will be a great migration from the state. I just want to get my place in line first while homes in other states are still cheap.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    No theft has been proven in court. Bankruptcy is a legal course of action used by millions over the years.

    Prove your charges.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    My answer is to work whatever is required to pull yourself up by your own efforts if you are able bodied. There are plenty of jobs for those willing to work to go to the job.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    $62K/yr is more than enough to pay for basic transportation.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I have gone from minimum wage to senior management salary over the past 30 years. A couple with no children can easily afford catastrophic health insurance if their employers do not offer it.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Oh now … you are going after the sacred cows of Maine.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    No. I am stating that the charges made need to be proven.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I have not claimed that couples with no children are the cause of any decline.

  • Anonymous

    All you have to do is go to the social security office on Forest ave. every day there are green card folks lined up signing up for benefits that they get for 9 years. Then go over to Southern Maine Community College and find all of the African and Somalian immigrants going to college for free. Then go to DHHS over on Marginal way and you will see all of the immigrants who are getting welfare. The percent of foreigners at the SS office and DHHS office exceeds the percent of Maine citizens by far. I know this because I bring an elderly neighbor there all the time.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    This is foolishness. I have paid property taxes to support the education of my children and others. I have paid out of my own pocket again to provide a better education for my children. I have paid for my flu shots or they have been provided by my employer. My home is safe because of my willingness to defend it. I have no objection t contributing to the betterment of my society. I merely expect you and your ilk to pay YOUR fair share instead of looking to confiscate wealth form those already paying their way and yours.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    The heart of man is wicked. Compassion is by the grace of God. It doesn’t “run in families”.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I see.  And yes, that is very solid, sound research to make such sweeping generalizations about minorities and Mainecare.  It is also very refreshing to know that there is no tinge of racism involved.  My faith in mankind is restored.  Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    P.S.  I’ll take immigrants who can spell over natives who can’t any day.  :-)

  • Anonymous

    “Tell that to someone’s disabled, elderly grandparent. They worked hard
    for years only to see their nest egg stolen, their social security
    threatened, and their medical care slashed. Who are you to say they
    don’t need Mainecare… The Governor?”    Their bad choices years ago are now my problem?  I don’t think so.  And by bad choices I mean using the government for healthcare and their retirement.  There are some people out there who need to wake up.  You included briggs.

  • Anonymous

    Kinda like liberals who claim people will be dying out in the streets once the hospitals don’t take their medicaid and push them out, huh sf98?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, then things will magically all be roses.   There will be more than enough money to go around and we can all roast marshmellows around the campfire while singing kumbaya.   Wake up.  You think your marxist working class brethren will just tax the rich into oblivion and all will be peachy.  Guess what, there ain’t enough wealth to tax.  You could take all the money from the rich, not just tax them, and there still isn’t enough money to pay all the debt.  Pull your intellectually lazy heads out.

  • Anonymous

    I doubt insurance companies would go out of business.  People still need all kinds of other insurance.  Insurance company executives could reduce their incomes so it more adequately reflected their contribution to society. 

  • Anonymous

    Um no, because there won’t be any money for the state to run things.  Ask Russia about how communism worked out.  The problem is all the idiots who think that communism is the answer. 

  • Anonymous

    actually….. they can wait in line, not be refused, get billed and NEVER pay it and the hospital ends up absorbing the debt, bringing increases to you and me on our next insurance covered visit!

  • Steve Maine

    I love this guy.

  • Anonymous

    In a state with a high percentage of working poor and lower middle class and a very small percentage of very wealthy one has to ask why is LePage constantly denigrating and robbing the larger numbers of voters in order to groom and assist the fewer. LePage says he is for the hardworking Mainers but his actions show he is really for helping the very wealthy become richer..

  • Anonymous

    There is an old adage “a picture is worth 1000 words”. All of the facts and figures in the world can not be a substitute for what you see visually as reality. As far as racism that is nothing but BS. You want to stick your head in the sand and ignore what ethnic group has the largest sense of entitlement. They come here in droves because of the grand giveaway this country facilitates. If they were Irish, English, or German I would  stand by my premise being that any ethnic group who comes here to mooch off of this country does not deserve to be here. In this case it happens to be the ethnic group specified. It is a matter of principle not race. And if you are to weak or to “politically correct” to accept the truth, then so be it.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t Florida just abandon it’s drug testing program for welfare recipients because they found there were fewer addictions within the welfare population than there were in the non welfare population?  I believe Florida found that a testing program was costing them way more money than it was saving.

    It may be satisfyingly vindictive to institute a drug testing program but it will not save any money , mainly because most people on welfare are not drug addicts or alcoholics.  It would appear that Florida’s experience indicates that welfare money is NOT going to support an addiction. 

  • Anonymous

    “Just like my house, we can only spend what we earn”? This bit of common wisdom really gets tiresome. You 192 folks who liked this comment… Do you have a mortgage? Do you have an auto loan? Student loan? Most people have at least one of those, and often more during their lifetimes. Yet somehow lots of people still simultaneously carry around in their heads the idea that the only sound financing, for households and the government, is pay-as-you-go. Makes no sense!

  • Steve Maine

    Or people that don’t have kids can provide for themselves..???  I don’t see what the problem is.  Oh no!  I have to work to pay for health care!!! What kind of a man makes people earn things… the nerve!

  • Anonymous

    Great, now you will see a surge in the baby population so that these people can stay on medicaid, which will only increase the states debt further (now and down the road)… 

    Cap state benefits like this at 5 years (immigrant or not).  I understand people fall on hard times and people deserve a little help from time to time.  But, if you can’t find a job by then, or take care of yourself, rethink your priorities…  We can’t keep continuing to pay for others who don’t help themselves.  Most people are having enough problems paying for themselves as it is.  Why should those that work hard pay for people who don’t work and then they get better benefits than us? 

    I am a veteran in school right now and working part time to help with school finances.  I don’t have medical or dental, I can’t afford it.  I could qualify for state assistance, but I have pride and a work ethic.  At least I am contributing to society instead of freeloading…  I am not without compassion, so, we should take into account extenuating circumstances, i.e., disability, elderly, etc., and determine the needs of the individual and thoroughly investigate cases so that families don’t cheat the system.

    Why do I gotta keep paying for people that are capable of working, yet choose not to?  I personally know someone who is more than capable of working, yet they choose not too since the state pays for their medical and food stamps. They have been doing it for over 10 years!  The welfare system needs a serious overhaul from the ground up and the state needs to rethink its priorities.

  • Anonymous

    Perception can sometimes be far from reality.  Remember that.

  • midmainer

    He earns the coverage? That’s a matter of opinion. 

  • Anonymous

    …and your reality can be far from your perception!

  • Nichole Stevens

    What about a senario, much like my brother’s, who is working jobs that he can get because he wants to work but has so many seizures that he often loses jobs due to missing too many days because of the seizures and their assoicated lack of advanced notification.  Senario, he is home getting ready for work then blacks out into a seizure and wakes up an hour later in a hospital but didn’t call his boss to let him know because he was in an ambulance.  Employers are great about no letting him go immediately as that is protected by law but they always find a way…  So he works, no one will give him health care, so he does get MaineCare only,   but he works as much as he can.  Guess what, he could and does qualify for disability and could stop working all together and then collect a check and TANF in addition to his MaineCare.  All this is going to do is actually make him stop working.  Guess that’s the genius solution here.  It’s unfortunate since all he wants to do his work as much as his disablity will allow for so he doesn’t feel completely inadequate.

  • Anonymous

    Maine has all it needs right here!  Stop sending all our resources and money out of the state and then having to beg to get it back with all those strings attached!  Hello, is anybody in there?

  • Anonymous

    Tell that to my mother who gave up her life, her house, her job, her freedom at age 50 to raise my nephew that was plopped on her door step for her to raise. He has disabilities ranging from physical, emotional and neurological. She did this without a dime of State funding, without a dime of child support from either parent! When her savings ran out and she became ill and disabled herself, she had no choice but to apply for SSD benefits she worked her whole life for and has no choice but to utilize Mainecare/Medicare.  As a working tax payer I think this is just wrong!

  • Briney

    So what’s his alternative for these Americans?

  • Anonymous

    Just what I thought they paid why should they get everything free? they all make good money should  pay something insted of sending out his BS and thats his own rude words I for one am ashamed of our Gov.what comes out of his mouth he has no respect for others and I have no resoect for him he is so rude

  • Anonymous

    What kind of governor robs the state coffers to give tax breaks that benefit the wealthy but then turns around and tells those that need help with health care costs, ” Sorry, sucker we’re going to cut your health care to pay for LIHEAP and the departmental costs we didn’t see coming and didn’t budget for.  Does that sound fair to you?

  • Anonymous

    it sounds ridiculous but i know personally of more than one case sad but true

  • Anonymous

    Single payer universal health care like all the other civilized countries provide. And they have gone to that system because it’s cheaper and covers more people.

  • Anonymous

    We have become a nations of Scrooges.  How sad.  How hateful.  How mean spirited.

  • Anonymous

    I’m assuming you don’t know any Democrats and are taking your friends as horrible examples and indulging your  little mind in a game of transference. 

  • Anonymous

    Your brother is a strong and honorable person.  Republicans see him as a leech sucking money out of their pockets. Be glad you are not a sad miserable Republican

  • Anonymous

    Knowitall617 too lazy to spell too correctly.

  • Guest

    Yes,  I think he may have room for improvement.

  • Anonymous

    “All of the facts and figures in the world can not be a substitute for what you see visually as reality.”
    False.

  • Anonymous

    along that line of thinking y should a person be forced to join a union in order to work im not saying we should abolish unions just not force them to

  • Anonymous

    Great, now we will see more people who perphaps do not have a home and live in shelters who need to have their medications for mental illnesses unmedicated on the streets because they have been cut off their meds. It is a delicate balance and he cannot just cut a whole group of people like that without expecting a fallout of some sort.

  • Nichole Stevens

    It just blows my mind that people think this way.  It represents 1.5% of Mainer’s and those Mainer’s need to be heard because it is not all sunshine and bunnies in their world.  But hey, if they want to push him into getting more services from the state then so be it.  Not sure it is going to have the same effect they are hoping for. 

  • Anonymous

    its not the avg that counts i know people who truly need help and dont get it because they dont know how to play the system .can u honestly tell me u dont know any body  that cheats the system . you would be surprised how many people i know who will not get married because they will lose there state aid . im not hatin here im just saying the people that truly are in need are being hurt by those that scam the system

  • Anonymous

    i was responding to a post that said the mainecare recipients pay taxes also which is untrue   so u were just helping me make my point thanks

  • Anonymous

    i am neither repub or dem but i do know maine history and dems have been in control of maine politics up until last year and by control i mean they have had two out of the three {guv ,legislature or senate] for the last 40 years 

  • Anonymous

    I was hoping you, of all posters could do better than that. But I have to ask you, what do you want from the public school system?

  • Anonymous

    Arizona cut their mental health spending 50%.  Everybody thought that was a dandy way to save on paying taxes until Jared Loughner shot Senator Giffords.  Now Arizona will have to spend millions and millions in court, incarceration, medical, mental costs to undo the damage.  Maybe it’s cheaper just to fund health costs instead of dealing with the unintended consequences of cutting services. 

  • Guest

    Oops, sorry…

    Yeah, they do what they want when they want. But god forbid you protest them lest you want to be associated with dirty hippies!!

  • Anonymous

    Republicans seldom think past the act of saving themselves some tax money.  Unintended consequences are not their concern.  They usually find some way to blame someone else for a disaster they caused.  

     Repbulicans remind me of an F Scott Fitzgerald quote from “The Great Gatsby”
    They were careless people, Tom and Daisy – they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into the money of their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to know how many of the names we see in the paper for drugs, domestic violence, burglary, and all the other crimes we read about are on welfare. I think that should be public knowledge when you are arrested. Then you would see how true the old B.S. line is.

  • Anonymous

    Why?  Is it entertaining for you to watch LePage beat up on the  poor, the working class and the middle class?  Do you relish the thought that several hundred people are going to have no health insurance?  Do you feel exhilaration watching the middle class and the working class  get kicked about?   Tell us, what is it that you love about LePage?

  • Jeff

    LePage needs NOT to be re-voted back into office. You CAN  NOT run the state like a store!!!

  • Anonymous

    If things are so tight, then there should not be anymore tax breaks for ANYBODY.

  • Anonymous

    Are you admitting that you voted Republican last year. And if you didn’t, then why do you think your vote will change anything next year? Lepage has already cut about $500,000 in dhs’s payroll. I think that’s a good start. After all he’s only been in office for about eleven months.

  • Jeff

    totally agree!!!

  • EB

    What makes up the number of adults with children? I don’t see that they deserve it anymore. My gf tried to get it once and they said no, but if she was pregnant or had a kid they could get her on the program. Wtf?! Who says that? Be glad she didn’t have a kid at 18 or however old she was and poor as dirt, and has never paid a dime into our tax base. At least she pays into it! Others I may be referring to on the other hand just deserve to have their kids taken away if they plan on living off the rest of us. Maybe they would think twice about having kids. Who knows this day in age! Doubtful!

  • Anonymous

    This is where the health care exhanges could have done wonders. Let  low income people have a buy in option.  Something like  tiered system maybe ?

  • Anonymous

    Medicaid or MaineCare, as it is called in Maine, is the same program. Disabled and elderly can be on both Medicare & Medicaid (MaineCare in Maine) if they qualify. In order for an elderly or  disabled person  to qualify for Medicaid or MaineCare the person  has to be  low income and  his  asests have to be below a specific amount.

  • Jeff

    They could stop taking jobs from us Mainers though and stay off the tax payers backs.

  • valgal10

    why why why should non-w0rking adults have better health care than working adults…answer me that ??

  • Anonymous

    I agree $900/month is too much. I have an employee-sponsored program that is quite good and pay ~$400/month for my family. In fact, I think the cost of my plan is about $1200/month since my employer picks up 2/3. I consider that a reasonable price to pay for my health: I pay a lot more than that for shelter, and my car payment was in that range for a while. I think MaineCare shouldn’t be all or nothing: why can’t the State essentially play the role of an employer and pay a part of your health insurance? That way you can pick the policy you want, with the coverage you want. The State picks up the tab for a portion based on your income/need.

  • Anonymous

    My thought is to have the State help with the premium of existing insurance programs on a sliding scale that weighs need. That way, we don’t need to create a new huge government program, give subsidized access for those who can’t get it from their employer and help the needy. Seems simpler…

  • Anonymous

    Move and find a new job. Too many people complain “there’s no work in my town”. I moved to Maine for a job (shocker) because my other employer closed up shop. That’s life.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, if LePage does this the hospitals will just have to pick up the tab for all the frequent flyer drug seekers and detox cases. Trust me, they are ALL on MaineCare, they are a shocking large percentage of non-Medicare inpatient care and they come back again and again and again…

  • Anonymous

    No. That’s a matter of law. Just like the rest of his salary. It’s established by statute.
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  • Anonymous

    No, what I am saying is that there is freedom of choice. If one wants to work at a minimum wage job, fine. Unions worked long and hard and struggled for years to get fair pay for its members. Right-to-work laws are nothing more than attempts to roll back those wages and benefits with a “divide and conquer” approach.
    Corporations love Right-to-Work laws because the more they can weaken a union, the bigger their profit margin.

  • Anonymous

    Well, uh, gosh sf98,  it’s gotta’ be true.  Bubba told me so.

  • Anonymous

    and I have been without insurance and didn’t qualify for Mainecare….different people different times, different worlds…..

  • Anonymous

    I hope so…..I’m not for cutting services for the needy…I just hope the powers that be know what they are doing 8(

  • Anonymous

    I believe you are right about the waiting period but its worth it to try to get the least harmful candidates in the running…

  • Anonymous

    They pay what they are required to and they happen to agree that they should be required to pay more!!! They give and give and give what more should they do?

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I never had anything like “Mainecare” available when I was struggling to make ends meet. We got by just fine. I purchased catastrophic healthcare coverage until I had a job that offered better benefits.

  • Anonymous

    Your best solution to depend on a liberals charity ? Seriously , what is the conservative real plan ? WHAT ARE THEIR DEMANDS BESIDES NO NEW TAXES, EVER,NOT EVEN GOING BACK TO THE SAME RATE AS WHEN THE FED. BUDGET WAS LAST BALANCED, (Before Bush, BTW)     
    **************
    Charity???  ALL I want is for the wealthy like Stephen and Tabitha to pay their “fair share” in TAXES.  If they paid what they actually owed (like us regular middle class taxpayers, the 47%) and didn’t brag about paying such a low rate (that adds insult to injury) then we’d be better off as a state.  They formed a “foundation” and all their wealth and earnings/income are funneled through it, thereby lowering their taxes.  Then, the money they donate to non-profits become tax write-offs, lowering their tax burden even further!  How about they start paying their fair share?

  • Anonymous

    well, I’m certainly not on THAT list!  So, will Stephen and Tabitha give up their tax breaks willingly?  Willthegovt. restrict or otherwise recall the tax breaks they enjoy, like having their income sent through their “Foundation” so they don’t have to pay the personal earned income tax rate and thus pay very little in taxes?

    As for the 375-400 millionaires—one question—is their millionaire status due to owning land or buildings, or is it just cash on hand or other physical assets like business equipment?  If a person owns, say, an office building in downtown Portland that’s valued at $800,000. and the equipment inside, and perhaps a modest home in, say, Freeport with a mortgage, is s/he considered a millionaire?

    thanks in advance!

  • Anonymous

    They pay what they are required to and they happen to agree that they should be required to pay more!!! They give and give and give what more should they do?
    **************************************************
    put their money where their mouth is! Give up their write-offs, tax shelters and foundation that allows them to pay such a low rate.  I won’t hold my breath, though.  I think I’ll be waiting a looooooong time for that to happen.

  • Anonymous

    They own a home in Florida just like our Governor, huh?     
    *******************************************
    ah, now, I think it’s just the wife that owns it, right?  ;-)  lol

  • Anonymous

    Back then medical costs weren’t anywhere near as inflated as they are now.     
    **************************************************
    Adjusted for inflation, they were comparable.  He didn’t pay cash for my sister’s childbirth—he had insurance, an HMO to be exact.  New Jersey didn’t overregulate the insurance industry, thus several companies offered policies in the state, creating competition.  Maine allows TWO insurance companies to do business here.  There is NO incentive for them to offer competitive policies and types of coverage.  They’ve got us by the balls, Mainers get the scraps the Aetna throws to the dogs.
    Anyway, my point was that 32+ years ago, my brother-in-law was saying “You don’t go TO Maine for work (or a career) you work elsewhere and RETIRE to Maine.)  Face it—the business climate has sucked here for the past 35+ years—why anyone expects to have a job making $75,000 a year is beyond me.  MBNA and the call center businesses came here because they could get away  with paying $7.50 an hour—people WILLINGLY accepted that rate!  MBNA, based in Delaware and Maryland, had to pay TWICE that to get employees.

  • Anonymous

    you can get a Major Medical policy fairly inexpensively, and supplement with something like AFLAC for the incidentals.  AFLAC is just under $10. a week, not sure if that’s just for single coverage or for married couples….probably single….you can always check it out.

  • Susan Westfall

    No corporation could make a “killing” with out the government regulating all the competition out of business while taking taxes from only half the people to subsidize the free ride of a good percentage of the other half.

    That being said, taxpayer funded medicare for a percentage that is 35% higher than the national average in a state with a population as small as Maine’s is an indicator of either serious mass health problems (as yet undiscovered and so highly unlikely) or fraud on a grand scale.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.harvell Tom Harvell

    So while you have cancer your going to pick up your family and move them across the country? 

  • Tyke

    Paul Lepage is the family’s income provider but he has put all of their assets into only his current  wife’s name. Many have stated that he has done this because of the large amount he owes his ex wife for unpaid child support.

    Paul Lepage paid for and has full ownership control of his house regardless of how he is trying to shield the asset from his other moral and legal obligations.

  • Anonymous

    I was speaking more broadly: many people lose their job and insurance without a simultaneous personal crisis.

    I can tell you I would move before my Cobra runs out

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