Mainers vote to continue Election Day registration

Yes On 1 supporters Genevieve Lysen (left) and Melanie Collins (center) applaud as they listen to speakers Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011, in Portland.
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Yes On 1 supporters Genevieve Lysen (left) and Melanie Collins (center) applaud as they listen to speakers Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011, in Portland.
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Yes On 1 Field Campaign Director Mark Gray, joined by Maine Democratic Party Chair Ben Grant (right), speaks to supporters at a campaign event Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011, in Portland.
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Yes On 1 Field Campaign Director Mark Gray, joined by Maine Democratic Party Chair Ben Grant (right), speaks to supporters at a campaign event Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011, in Portland.
Yes On 1 Field Director Ben Chin (left), joined by George Christie (right), enters voting results as they are phoned in Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011, in Portland, Maine.
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Yes On 1 Field Director Ben Chin (left), joined by George Christie (right), enters voting results as they are phoned in Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011, in Portland, Maine.

PORTLAND, Maine — By a relatively wide margin, Mainers on Tuesday overturned a recently passed law that would have ended a 38-year-old practice of allowing voters to register on Election Day.

Question 1 asked: “Do you want to reject the section of Chapter 399 of the Public Laws of 2011 that requires new voters to register to vote at least two business days prior to an election?”

With more than three-quarters of the state’s precincts reporting early Wednesday morning, the yes side was leading 60 percent to 40 percent and had declared victory. The yes side was prevailing in every county, with especially lopsided results in Portland and Bangor.

Dozens of Yes on 1 volunteers gathered at Bayside Bowl in Portland and watched the results trickle in on laptops. The mood was festive, even shortly after the polls closed, and only got better as the night went on.

Among those gathered, including Democratic party officials, labor leaders and progressive activists, everyone agreed that it was nice to get a win.

“We felt good coming in and we knew we had run a better campaign,” Maine Democratic Party Chairman Ben Grant said. “It feels good to get a win but this isn’t the last vote of 2011, it’s the first of 2012. We need to take this momentum into next year.”

“Maine voters sent a clear message: No one will be denied a right to vote,” said Shenna Bellows, director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Maine. “Voters in small towns and big cities voted to protect our constitutional right.”

Lance Dutson, director of the Maine Heritage Policy Center, which has been involved with the No on 1 campaign, said he expected a closer vote but conceded the race shortly before 10 p.m.

“I’m pleased at the discussion we helped to initiate around making our elections more secure,” he said.

Anna Cummings, a 19-year-old student at Bowdoin College in Brunswick, was among those who voted yes on Question 1.

“I know some people don’t want college students to vote because they say we don’t live here,” said Cummings, a native of Washington, D.C. “But I’m living here for four years while I’m in college. I think that gives me the right to vote here.”

Frank Malfy of Portland said he voted no because he doesn’t think people need to register on Election Day.

“I think if you have basically a whole year to register, that should be enough time,” he said.

In June, the Republican-controlled House and Senate voted largely along party lines to pass LD 1376, An Act To Preserve the Integrity of the Voter Registration and Election Process.

As passed, that bill eliminated the 38-year-old practice of Election Day registration by requiring voters to register two business days before an election. LD 1376 also bans absentee voting two days before Election Day, but that change is not part of the people’s veto.

Supporters of LD 1376 said the aim was to improve the voting process and alleviate stress on municipal election clerks, although some, including Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster, said it would reduce voter fraud.

Opponents argued that the GOP-backed law was designed to make it harder for Mainers to vote and they rejected the notion that Maine’s elections are at risk for fraud.

On the same day Gov. Paul LePage signed LD 1376 in law, a coalition of progressive groups banded together to launch a people’s veto effort. The Protect Maine Votes coalition gathered more than 70,000 valid signatures in less than a month to put a question on the ballot.

During the signature-gathering process and after the petitions were secured, the debate over Election Day registration took some interesting turns.

In July, Webster produced a list of 206 names of college students who he said should be investigated for voter fraud. He tied their votes to Election Day registration even though there was no direct connection.

About two months later, Maine Secretary of State Charlie Summers announced the findings of that investigation. Although he found no evidence of fraud, Summers said his probe revealed that Maine’s elections system was “fragile and vulnerable” to errors.

Election results from Farmington, Webster’s hometown, show Question 1 prevailing there with 57 percent of the vote.

This is the fourth consecutive year in which Maine voters have overturned a law passed by the Legislature.

From 2008-2010, when Democrats controlled the Legislature and the Blaine House, Republicans used the people’s veto process to overturn laws.

In 2008, voters rejected a law that would have levied new taxes on beer, wine and soda to help fund the state-subsidized Dirigo Health insurance program.

In 2009, voters overturned a law that would have allowed same-sex couples the right to get married, an issue that looks like it could return in 2012 in the form of a citizens’ initiative.

And last June, 60 percent of voters overturned a tax reform package that would have lowered income taxes while expanding certain sales taxes and increasing the meals and lodging tax.

To see full election results broken down by town, visit maineelections.bangordailynews.com.

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  • Anonymous

    A black eye for the R’s.

  • kcjonez

    Kudos to the majority of voting citizens of Maine for understanding the importance of encouraging democracy!  

    Woohoo!

  • Anonymous

    Will it be gnashing of teeth for them, or will they down-play this loss saying it really isn’t a big deal. I bet they do both, at the same time.

  • Anonymous

    Bad news for Charlie “I hate voting rights” Webster. Thankfully, the people of Maine are already realizing the folly of republican “ideology.”

  • StillRelaxin

    Be warned GOP/Tea Party and you too Mr. LePage.  Unless you can demonstrate more moderate behavior this will be only the first of many hard shots Maine voters will be sending your way.  At this moment the voters are just itching to see ya in 2012! See ya vanish that is.

  • Anonymous

    It is heartening to see Maine people step up and protect their own right to vote — and to reject the Republican and corporate sponsored fear-mongering about fraud.

    The people have spoken.  (And we’re not talkin’ 39%).

  • http://twitter.com/jenny_whyme jenny_whyme

    As the Governor and the Republicans are all playing from ALEC’s play book and haven’t had an original thought since they took office, don’t be surprised if we see the Voter ID (also known as a back door poll tax) is soon on their agenda.

  • Anonymous

    Today the citizens of the State of Maine sent a very loud and extremely clear message to our elected representatives. We will not put up with your special interest politics anymore. Either start acting and voting like you are representatives of the people of The State of Maine or we will take things into our own hands and overturn your special interest legislation. The people’s veto is a wonderful thing and we will use it each and every time you try to cram some kind of special interest legislation down our throats. A message was also sent to the Maine Heritage Policy Center……… You may be able to pull the strings on the radical right wing republican jerks in the Maine House and Senate and the current resident of The Blaine House, but you do not and never will control the citizens of Maine with your special interest view point. And to our dear dear dear friends at the tea party the people of Maine have spoken in overwhelming numbers against your brand of politics and win at all cost even if it means lying, distorting, attempting to scare voters and cheating. Maine people have a history of caring about their neighbors and we just don’t care for your self-centered, selfish, and just pure mean spiritedness. Your 15 minutes are up and you are no longer significant in Maine Politics. But please don’t go away we enjoy reading your rants and hearing you spew your flawed ideology. It makes great entertainment. 

  • Anonymous

    Pardon me but can you tell me is 60% considered a landslide………….lol

  • Anonymous

    YES!!!

    Yes on 1 sure won, and it wasn’t even close.  The people have spoken!

    (and, it shows last minute deceptive ads ,etc., do not work, and do not win.)

  • Anonymous

    Excellent! Glad to see sanity prevail.

  • Regular Joe

    “Let the people decide.”

  • Regular Joe

    They’ll say that the Yes people bussed in loads of gays from away to register today and vote yes.  Clearly, they’ll say, this is the best example yet of voter fraud!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Mainers for rejecting extremist right wing attempts to restrict voting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25LJ6KETIP5DVBAPMUYRGCCDTU Brandon D

    I think we Mainers proved that the wool can’t be pulled over our eyes that easily.  LePage and company, take note: all because you want something to be true doesn’t make it that way.  Saying something is a fact does not make it so, something most people can understand.  Since this whole voter fraud thing has blown up in your faces your credibility has been damaged in the eyes of many, some of whom you may have been able to otherwise sway to your case on other issues.  The administration has gotten themselves off on a very bad start.

  • Anonymous

    Looking for “landslide” but not seeing it, at least not in this post.  A healthy majority, that’s for sure, a hack of a lot better than the 39% alleged “mandate” last year (or good enough to surmount logjam fillibusters by Rs in the US Senate).

  • Anonymous

    It is very sad that so many people voted against two-day minimum voter registration.  It is very reasonable to expect that people will not wait to register on Election Day.  But the hype on both sides — on all sides — was swallowed whole.  Look to see how many people voted today, with same-day registration allowed.  I am ashamed at the ignorance and sloth displayed in supporting this people’s veto.  This is a bad mark for voter intelligence.

  • Anonymous

    To any Republicans angry about this result, know this:  Maine does not have rampant voter fraud.  Fox News and Republicans will lie to you to get you to do their dirty work of keeping people from the polls.  It’s not about you or your values it’s about sneaky underhanded tricks played by politicians to get votes or block votes.  Democrats do the same thing only not as often.  In this new age of technology I believe there is a voice of reason in transparency and accountability due to the instant resource of information.  Protect it.  It’s the last great freedom we will possess.

  • Anonymous

    What’s a bad mark for voter intelligence is for you to just assume that voter fraud is occurring and not the will of the people.  If anything voter intelligence should be commended for pushing away the smoke in mirrors of people like yourself.

  • Regular Joe

    I was working at the polls and I saw quite a few people registering to vote today. There were plenty of workers there to register them and it got done. There was even a line for a time and everybody waited their turn. What is your point about looking to see how many people voted today with same day registration allowed?
    It is not bad to continue a law that has worked for 38 year to ensure that every Mainer has the opportunity to vote.
    The people decided and now they’re told their intelligence is in question!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25LJ6KETIP5DVBAPMUYRGCCDTU Brandon D

    I liked your post until I read your final two sentences… then I LOVED it!  Well said.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TZS7NJHAMVJ4EVFJEWQY4BT4TM Jason Coombs

    Funny thing about reading these posts, most if not all of you have never left this country, served in the military or even stop to actually think with your own thoughts. I consider myself 85% conserv/10%dem/5lib. I vote mainly repub yet stopped outside the voting location and gave my signature to the petition to allow gay marriage. I served 8 years in the Marine Corps Infrantry, went in in 1990, have raised my son since his mother left when he was 9 months old and yes she was a deadbeat, have never received state aid, completed college, started my own business and own a home. I would highly suggest, before you paint with such a broad brush, as I did earlier, to prove a point, dont be a sheep, look at all the facts, dont be scared if your friends dont agree, if they bother you about it, they are not real friends. Think about this, OWS folks are all after  the so called 1%, yet we just gave Palistine 68 millon dollars, this is repub and dems, that goes to that country’s building and road programs yet I bet everyone reading this went through a bunch of pot holes on the way to vote. Lets dump the busts on Tea Bag folks, realize that they got alot started and really shook up politics and it has grown from there. As a people, if we overlooked the little things for a while and combined for the overall, we would get more done.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever. Don’t assume you’re smarter than someone simply because they disagree with you.

    You don’t like democracy, then go somewhere else. The people voted and this is what Maine wants. We can vote on it again later, but for now, overwhelmingly it seems like this is what the state wants.

  • Anonymous

    The ayes have it.

    Thank you good citizens.

    Signed,

    The U. Maine Farmington Vans

  • Anonymous

    Yup, there will be some such comments coming.  They won’t like such a large margin either!  (wasn’t even close!)

  • Anonymous

    Very nicely stated!

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. To assume that nobody could possibly have a good reason to register election day (not that they should need one) shows true ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, so many intelligent voters voted today. They cared enough to get out and vote, unlike those who did not. We should be praising those who voted…..before and today!  Yes indeed.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly….exactly!!!

  • Anonymous

    The Tea Party’s over.

  • steviemk

    no whats sad is that so many people tried to take away the rights of Maine voters but you’ll notice they failed

  • Anonymous

    Well pardon us Mrs. Wigglesworth.

    Over 50,000 Mainers used same day voter registration in the 2008 election.

    How many of them were risking jail time, fines, and a felony conviction to vote twice?

  • Regular Joe

    Yes!! I saw hundred of students vote today. They took the time out of their busy schedules (like REAL adults !!!) and exercised their rights as Americans to vote. Many registered today, too, and there was no issue. I think it’s great that we had so many young adults who cared enough to get out and vote. To question them and to say that they didn’t care ENOUGH by registering last week is a slap in the face of democracy.

  • Anonymous

    So proud of my fellow Mainers for showing their true colors – that they support our right to vote. Thank goodness sanity reigned on this issue. Let’s hope for more common sense results in future elections. This has renewed my faith in my fellow common man.

  • Anonymous

    I was not concerned about voter fraud.  I was not concerned with the party politics.  In order to vote with any knowledge of the issues and candidates, a citizen does not wake up on Election Day with anything more than the pap he or she has been fed.  The ‘obesity’ problem is between the ears.

    No matter how many hours I worked, nor how many days, I was always registered to vote and voted, and did not need anyone to bend over backwards to make it possible.

  • Anonymous

    This is just a broken record response that is meaningless.

  • Anonymous

    No one attempted to take away the rights of Maine voters.  No one would be disenfranchised.  Tell me how people would have been disenfranchised.

  • Anonymous

    Do not tell me about democracy.  You have no idea how I’ve fought to uphold it.  I am not smarter because someone disagrees with me, nor if they agree with me.  But I know sheep-like following when I see it.

  • Anonymous

    They tried to manufacture “voter fraud” to fit their political agenda. It did not work. They were counting on being able to deceive people. They clearly underestimated the independent thinking and intelligence of many Maine citizens.

  • StillRelaxin

    Ok you’ve covered everything I was about to say, thanks. I’d also point out that a 20 point spread (Which I suspect will grow another 1-3 points) in an “Off Year” election where no major offices were up for vote would be a very condemning loss. “Landslide” maybe by someone’s definition but of course not a term used by me.  I’d certainly consider it to be a good old fashioned butt kicking. Which is of course a double blow to Mr. LePage who has been asking others to kiss his instead of putting a foot up against it. Also it was Mainer’s first opportunity to pass REAL judgment on an issue that is close to Mr. LePage’s heart and that of his party. Decision, we don’t accept your thinking. Keep going down the same paths and we’ll show you one of our own and it won’t lead to nice cozy offices or full paid pensions for you AND your family members.

  • Anonymous

    What was a blatant political power grab was rejected.

    The people effectively just passed a law!

    They overruled because it is they who ultimately RULE OVER.

    Let’s not forget that.

  • Anonymous

    Tell us what wrong it would have righted

  • Anonymous

    It was not a two day wait. Election day is always on a Tuesday. That makes it is a four pre-register requirement. Sneaky huh? And, it was defeated by the intelligent people of Maine who saw this attempt to restrict access to the voting booth for what it was.

  • Anonymous

    let’s make people register 1 year before the election. does that suit you?

  • Anonymous

    If I had moved to Maine on the weekend before an election I would not have been able to vote. I could register. But not vote.

  • Anonymous

    Bull.  And, as of a few seconds ago:  Total Registered Voters: 959,074*Participating Voters: 263,865**
    Total Precincts: 594
    Precincts Reported: 452  And that’s with same-day registration, and the bizarre perception that the right to vote was in question.

  • Anonymous

    My friends will tell you I am about as rebellious as it gets. No sheepishness here.

  • Anonymous

    When I went to vote in 2000 my name had been inexplicably purged from the rolls.  If it hadn’t been for same-day registration I would have missed my first presidential election since 1972.  

  • Anonymous

    The big story is not that this is black eye for any party’s or persons.  This result is too profound for spite or rancor.   This is an election to savor.  The men and women of Maine, all parties, all creeds, all traditions, have upheld the birthright of American democracy.  Today the people of Maine have walked the walk and upheld their heritage, best impulses, and endorsed and realized the  implications of Americas professed ideals  for themselves and their posterity. It is a small, precious, shining moment!

  • Anonymous

    My first time voting I would have been turned away.  “Disenfranchised”… naw.  Angry and dissatified?  Yes.  You defend a blind argument that you clearly will not win. 

  • Anonymous

    It is not all about you. Other people have different situations than you. So what about what you could do, or not do. Everyone is different with different life situations.

    You are right…..many voters were not led like sheep by Webster and Summers. They thought for themselves, about what was right and honest, and soundly rejected the deception and invalid and unproven cries of fraud.  Webster could not get a lot of folks to be swayed and led  like sheep.

  • Anonymous

    No bending going on. Just town clerks doing what they do. And to assume just because they are registering on election day they know nothing about the issues and candidates is quite a leap.  Especially in this instant access to information age we live in. You could learn all you need to know in a few hours of web surfing.

  • Anonymous

    Tell us how the new law would have protected us from said evil.

    Tell us of how there is voter fraud here.  Show us.  Please.  We are waiting. 

  • Anonymous

    Maine people are smarter than they (opponents) thought.  Maine people  saw through the sneakiness and saw it for what it was. And, they voted.!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you.  You just pointed out exactly why there is absolutely no reason to limit voters on election day and that you seem to think everyone is just like you.  Just a bunch of scared Republicans seeing their demise in the rear view mirror. 

  • Anonymous

    Be ready for another go-around. LD 199, a voter ID bill, is to be voted on this legislative session. Just maybe this vote will send a clear message and it will be defeated. One can hope.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, you didn’t know. LD 199 is just that and was carried over to this upcoming legislative session. Best be calling your legislators as it will be voted on. Mine is an ALEC member so will do me no good to call.

  • Anonymous

    The “wrongs”:  the lie that there would be voter disenfranchisement; the lie that there was voter fraud; the lie that same-day registration would significantly increase the percentage of participating voters;  the lie that people in Maine are indepedent thinkers….

    The terrible “wrong” that the Director of the ACLU lied in making a statement that fully supported the lie that anyone would be disenfranchised.  (She should be fired).  “Maine voters sent a clear message: No one will be denied a right to vote,” said Shenna Bellows, director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Maine. “Voters in small towns and big cities voted to protect our constitutional right.”

  • Anonymous

    Bangor residents should remember the passionate advocacy of eliminating same day registration and voting by Republican state senator Nichi Farnum, a first-term Senator who is as right-wing as they come. A few other Republican state senators opposed this legislation, but Nichi defended it without reservation.  Voters in her district–not least, lots of Husson students–should remember this when she seeks reelection next year. Same for other students in her district.

  • Anonymous

    So, you don’t read my other comments before posting.  The new law would not have altered people’s ability to register to vote except on Election Day.  That it is already easy to register to vote has not increased citizen participation in government, nor did a decent percentage of voters vote today.

    And again, I did not say, nor did I believe that there was voter fraud here. 

  • Anonymous

    Lol. No, you don’t sound sheepish!!

  • Anonymous

    You cannot believe your own grandiose illogical words.  You cannot conceivably equate having the commitment to register to vote, long before Election Day, with the death of Constitutional rights. 

  • Anonymous

    I am so glad you didn’t miss it. You illustrate one of the many reasons why Yes on 1 won!

  • Anonymous

    Yes you like a line, and trains.

  • http://twitter.com/m_ethaniel Mistletoe Ethaniel

    You know it’s a good comment when it not only gets a like, but the comments saying they liked it get liked.

  • Anonymous

    Shenna Bellows is right!

  • Anonymous

    Very good perspective.

  • Anonymous

    It wasn’t an attempt to restrict access.  Politicos of every party used this issue because they know that voters — the “public” — respond to sound bites and do not think. 

    By the way, how many times do people who live in Maine have to say they live in Maine.  Do they forget?  There is not another State in the country where people refer to themselves so ad nauseum in terms of the State in which they reside.

  • pbmann

    Huge voter turnout is a good thing in a democracy. 

    Why would anyone who loves democrrcy not want to see a large turnout for an off year election?

  • Anonymous

    I think Lepage could better serve Maine without being the Govenor. I do not think this is for him.

    He should find something more suiting.

  • Anonymous

    No.  You see that’s the kind of belief that is a fallacy.  You would have been been allowed a provisional ballot or challenge ballot, however it is referred to, and it would have been counted if you were verifiably registered.  The problem then, was with the election warden.

  • http://twitter.com/m_ethaniel Mistletoe Ethaniel

    @lynne14!  You totally called it (above)!

  • pbmann

    When you register to vote in no way determines how knowledgeable or educated the voter is.  I know people who have been registered voters for years that vote a straight party line no matter what and people who register the same day as the election that could school just about anyone on the issues.

    Edited for spelling

  • http://twitter.com/m_ethaniel Mistletoe Ethaniel

    Very well said!

  • Anonymous

    And why should you.  If you knew you were going to be moving, you would have filed an absentee ballot where you lived, and where you might have known the issues.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25LJ6KETIP5DVBAPMUYRGCCDTU Brandon D

    So many supporters of the veto began posting comments on here right away.  Those that did not took their sweet time getting here.  Did they have a hard time coming up with arguments, or are simply scared off by a crowd they know they cannot come close to arguing against?

  • pbmann

    If not, then there will be another veto by the voters.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25LJ6KETIP5DVBAPMUYRGCCDTU Brandon D

    Yo dog, we heard you like likes so we liked your likes so you can be liked while you like.

  • Anonymous

    The ACLU used to be wise.  Now, it seems party to the mass hysterics that have overtaken the reason of far too many people.  Shenna Bellows well knows that no one was being denied the right to vote.  And, I expect you do, too.

    Do you object to an informed voting?

  • Anonymous

    Actually once AGAIN you fail to give any reason whatsoever as to why a person should not be aloud to register/vote on Election Day if they are legally qualified to.  Come on.  Why are you even posting here if you can’t even keep up with the issue?

  • pbmann

    I am so proud to be a Mainer today.  We saw through the smokescreen and saw the attempt to disenfranchise and limit voting by outside interests.

    Just look at the map of voting by precinct, lots and lots of green and only a small number of red.

    Well done, Maine!

  • Anonymous

    Actually, that’s not true. The law would have allowed you to cast a provisional ballot even if the clerk couldn’t verify that a mistake had been made.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25LJ6KETIP5DVBAPMUYRGCCDTU Brandon D

    After this solid victory I bet some legislators are feeling a bit squeemish about voting for the voter ID bill.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    There.  Good.  Now we’ll just have to overturn the stealth poll tax they’ll probably try to sneak through in the upcoming spring session, and then… well, they’ll probably think of something else.  Eternal vigilance, etc.

  • http://twitter.com/m_ethaniel Mistletoe Ethaniel

    Can.  Did.

  • Anonymous

    Would you care to explain?

  • Anonymous

    LANDSLIDE for democracy!

  • http://twitter.com/m_ethaniel Mistletoe Ethaniel

    A like within a like… WE NEED TO GO DEEPER.

    **AFFECTION**

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    Well said.

  • Anonymous

    What?

  • Anonymous

    One last time (and I realize it must be frustrating to have lost, and by a lot).
    Now……voting in Maine has worked very well the way it has been. Nothing was broken. There was nothing to fix.
    Many informed people voted today. Many informed people registered and voted today. We like how, here in Maine, lots of informed voters vote, early or same day. Yes, it’s great.
    Got it?
    The people spoke.

  • Anonymous

    I remember your handle….who could forget! (it’s a good one!)

  • Anonymous

    What?  I was to give “any reason whatsoever as to why a person should not be aloud, (you mean allowed, I trust), to vote on Election Day?”  Where was I asked this?  Of course people who are registered must be allowed to vote.   And, I’m sorry if my posting is troubling you, but I’m doing fine “keeping up with the issue.”  Is it that a minor ray of light of thought has permeated the braincloud and you find it uncomfortable?

  • Anonymous

    No one was disenfranchising anuyone.

  • Anonymous

    Since you can’t seem to come up with a single good reason why we should limit a person’s ability in the State of Maine to register to vote the same day as an election, I’ll tell you reason why we SHOULD allow same day registration.  Because since same day registration was aloud more people have turned out in states that allow it.  A lot more.  The more people that show up the greater chance the people’s voice is heard.  If it was 2% or 3% increase maybe it wouldn’t be such an influential decider, but since it’s more like 10-20% it’s a game changer.  One you and others like you are not going to deny us.

  • maine 456

    If you were just moving to maine why do you think you should be voting on issues that you know nothing about? Legally if you are a citizen, you CAN vote but unless you were living here beforehand you haven’t been here to know whats going on. On moral grounds you probably shouldn’t do it.

  • Anonymous

    This is a restoration of the way it was.  Obviously the Governor is not the only entity in this state to veto unneccesary or unrealistic laws.  I think we have sent a message that there is more to come.  Perhaps now the majority will understand that they are sitting in their seats due to votes.  And though each and every legislator casts votes on the floor of their respective houses and they are recorded and tallied on the boards within each chamber….the votes that really count are ours.

  • Anonymous

    Psssssssssssssssssssst Point I got a little secret for you. The election was yesterday. The votes are counted. YES ON ONE won. I’m sure if you call Charlie Webster in the morning he might share the same thoughts on the outcome as you. 

  • Anonymous

    Scroll up and read a bit instead of blindly posting garbage responses and you might be able to keep up with your own posting. 

  • Anonymous

    Huh?

  • Anonymous

    It is you who does not understand.  I don’t consider this a personal loss, but see it as testimony to the willingness of people to be blindly led by tantalizing words and phrases; as testimony to the sloth of an American public who view having to make registering to vote a priority in their lives, with as many ways as there are to do so, an inconvenience, and worse – as disenfranchisement. – a word that I doubt you understand.

    I see this “win” as the loss of respect for the men and women who have suffered and died in defense of this country, and abroad as well where machine guns come with the ballot box.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans don’t want people to go to the polls.  They want their sheep all fenced in.  You must be part of the flock that has the blinders on. 

  • Anonymous

    Do you think??!  Even in his hometown, things did not go his way!

  • maine 456

    I wonder how many people said that to MLK? Should we say that to gay and lesbian people? How about the rebels in Libya? Or German Jews in world war 2. Even Steve Jobs in the 90s. Perhaps the people on flight 93?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be damned if you will get away with saying that I would deny anyone his or her Constitutional rights. 

  • maine 456

    Other states don’t have same day voter registration, some day our population might not support it.

  • Anonymous

    Now about those damned elephants

  • maine 456

    Yes the liberals do, think of all those imbeciles on youtube that though obama was going to instantly end the war, forgive their mortgage and pay every black restitution.  

  • pbmann

    Not allowing a voter to register on election day or fix a clerical error if their name was accidentally removed from the voter rolls is disenfranchising that voter for that election cycle.

    This was just another attempt by the GOP to limit voters they do not think will vote for them.   

  • Anonymous

    Well, that does explain everything.

  • maine 456

    So the 39% that said no don’t live in maine?

  • pbmann

    You forgot out of state college students and illegals, as well. 

  • Anonymous

    Still have to work on that one!

    (did you know because you voted Yes on 1 you don’t know what disenfranchisement means, and that if you are patriotic, you voted No!  (below)   You can’t make this stuff up!!!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be asinine.  The reason I care so much is that it ISN’T all about me, nor about the politicos, nor Maine.  We’re doomed.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely.

  • pbmann

    Provisional ballots are usually not counted unless there is a recount.  SO a persons vote may not be counted 

  • Anonymous

    Did you notice that the tea party is getting their rear ends handed to them in Ohio and Mississippi and that is on top of the beat down they just took in MAINE

  • maine 456

    Actually we were all playing the new call of duty, Perhaps activision is in on a huge conspiracy to keep young voters away from the polls by releasing the years most anticipated game on election day.

  • Anonymous

    I think most will grant that for better or worse, the constitutional rights of citizens  have suffered some considerable erosion in many areas over the passage of time.  In all instances this process had to start somewhere.  Every starting point was dismissed as of no import in the grand scheme of things or a necessary tradeoff, I have no doubt.  The ballot has increasingly become the last bastion of our democracy and the sole means of maintaining our rights;  and every diminution or restriction to its access is a mortal threat to our liberty. I believe the mindset and motivations behind the voting access “safeguards” overthrown tonight with the victory of Question One to be very dangerous.  I am sorry my illogical grandiosity offends you.  What I say, how I say it, and what you think of it, is of no consequence.  What is important is that something great and good was accomplished  today in Maine, by its people.

  • Anonymous

    Will amend that to a lot of Maine people.

  • pbmann

    So allowing voters to register the same day as an election is a loss of respect for men and women who have suffered for their country?  What a load of crap, they suffered to protect all the rights afforded us in the Constitution not just your interpretation of those rights.

    I bet a whole lot of veterans voted to repeal this law, many more than voted to keep this law.

  • Anonymous

    I pushed to describe my political affiliation, I am a liberal – not in the youtube culture type of ‘liberal’ – an ”old style” liberal ?  A Democrat.  But what do these empty words mean.  It is commitment, and seeking knowledge and truth – whether you like what you learn or not — that counts, and working to uphold the republic. 

  • Anonymous

    You are so full what comes out of the back end of a bull. The fact that   an election was held is a tribute to the brave men and women who have fought for and in way to many cases died for this country. 

  • Anonymous

    According to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot

    A provisional ballot can take 7 – 10 days before it’s actually counted, if it’s even counted at all.
    And in these days of instant gratification, I doubt Mainers would want to wait that long before the final tallies come out.

    If I had gone to the polls, and my name was inexcusably missing from the list of names…
    What scenario sounds better to you?
    Casting a provisional ballot that may take days to be counted if at all…..
    or,
    Reregistering to vote on the same day, and making an offical vote that I know will be counted on the same day.

    On a personal note,
    when I voted today, my old address was listed, (even though I had updated it prior during the last vote of 2010)
    Thanks to same day registration, I was able to update my address, and still make an offical vote.
    Im thankful for that.

     

  • Anonymous

    I read that.  Very very interesting….(people are waking up….)

  • pbmann

    Umm, I think Texans would disagree with you or Californians or Floridians, etc.  We jut have a cooler nickname for Mainers.

  • maine 456

    Im referring to the group that makes all their decisions based on disagreeing with whatever republicans say. They also get all their political knowledge from assumptions and wishes.

  • Anonymous

    Provisional ballots are counted with all other ballots. Only when the number of provisional ballots cast could affect the outcome of an election are the ballots examined.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I see the formerly unidentified woman has been identified in the parade of women who have been sexually harassed by that darling of the tea party Herman Cain. I’m starting to wonder if 999 might be the number of women he has harassed. It hasn’t been a good couple of days for our tea drinking friends. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

    ” radical right wing republican jerks in the Maine House and Senate”
    “But please don’t go away we enjoy reading your rants”

    Looks to me like you are the one ranting. I find it amusing that you continue to post your vitriol in this forum. The BDN posting community is very small and the majority here can’t pat each other on the back enough with their feel good consolation messages, but as you are aware of, last November the majority of voters in Maine through your butts out, in spite of all your efforts, crying and whining, because of your party’s incompetence to solve any of our State’s problems.

    Have fun with your ‘spirited’ posting. Get over it already. You lost.

  • Anonymous

    I’m speechless… You’re relying on a vanilla Wikipedia definition to make an inference on what Maine law is? Wow…

  • Anonymous

    No , it has not been.  But they won’t admit it, and will search desperately for any signs they can find that the support for the Occupy people is diminishing. It is easy to figure out.
    As for Cain…..I saw something tonight and how his wife said it isn’t possible; that that doesn’t sound like her husband at all. I hope for her sake that she really knows her husband and that he is not lying.  Either way, I doubt Herman Cain will be the next President anyway. (even before all this surfaced.)

  • Anonymous

    That is not as “good” as it sounds.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you are correct.

  • Anonymous

    It is not up to you to decide who knows the issues or not. Luckily…

  • Anonymous

    He is losing his “argument” the more he says.

  • Anonymous

    We see more and more why Yes on 1 prevailed when we read the nonsensical comments like his.

  • pbmann

    This was an impressive defeat for the GOP backed law. 

    And the impressive defeat in Ohio of the restrictive collective barganing law (62% voting to repeal it) shows the voters may be waking up to the over reach of the Tea Party backed and ALEC lead GOP.

  • Anonymous

    Like I said we enjoy your postings for the entertainment value. Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes you are the windshield….sometimes you are the bug.      The bugs certainly lost.   This law was flawed, and politcally motivated, and was directed right at our windshield, which is our voting rights.   SPLAT!!

  • Anonymous

    I suggest that no response is necessary.   This person simply is attempting to to conjure hateful and spiteful remarks…………….and, I think his therapist is calling.   

    Ring..Ring…….Are You OK?, Nope, I’m on the floor throwing a tantrum!

  • Anonymous

    It’s interesting how repealing this far-right law is painted as “get over it already, you lost”.

    We get the same wingnut caterwauling here in Texas as well.

    Congrats to y’all in Maine who didn’t let these voter suppression efforts succeed.

  • Anonymous

    You do understand one of the ways that native americans harvested buffalo?     They led them to a canyon and once the leader was over the cliff….the rest went right along with it.   

    This is a statement,…..we aren’t going over the cliff.  LePage can, but we aren’t.

  • Anonymous

    I live here in Texas, and you’re exactly right.

    The Houston Texans.

    No redundant redundancies with that name.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    Sorry Charlie, only quality honest laws get approved in Maine. Maybe we can get you a one way ticket to anywhere else amd practice your hate politics, distortions, and mudslinging there,

  • Anonymous

    Politically; 60% is considered a mandate, 75% or 3 to 1 is considered a landslide.

  • Anonymous

    Can we send Charlie Webster and the Maine Republican Party a bill for to cover the election costs for something city and town clerks was never a problem?  Great American wisdom, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

  • Anonymous

    Remember to always vote early and often!!

  • Anonymous

    Congrats Maine, democracy scores a small but important victory. Now is not the time to celebrate, nor can we can give any quarter to those who try to foist these extreme changes on to a system that has served us well. Today marks the beginning of the end of a nightmare that was generated by Extreme factions in our country. 2012 must be a referendum on this “Extreme” disorder that has been masquerading as Patriotism. Time is up for Team Extreme, time to rejoin the human race or continue as you were and become a distasteful part of history.

  • Anonymous

    Take that Koch brothers!

  • Anonymous

    Love this!  Hooray!  

  • Susan Guare

    Pardon me.  I believe you are mistaken; we won this one. 
    And you left a dangling modifier.

  • Anonymous

    You may SAY you don’t think you’re smarter but when you call people sheep-like simply for having a different opinion you SHOW what you really think….

  • Anonymous

    i am against same day ,my theory being if your not organized enough to do it a week in advance ,please no comments about how busy anyone is,then you probably know nothng of the issues and i dont want you voting.so go watch HBO and pretend its news like some people i know do.

  • Anonymous

    they will really have something to rant about come next elections,cant wait !

  • Anonymous

    Yeah baby…You read it here yesterday morning…dead on balls accurate prediction…Bye Bye Heritage Policy Center Goons/Summers/Herr Vebster

  • Anonymous

    HAHAHAHAHA!  A beginning to the end of the hypocrisy in Augusta!  Now LePage go out and create those jobs and do someting for real.

  • Anonymous

    true story:  i moved to Old Town in June and motor-voter registered at the BMV.  I showed up at the KOC hall yesterday, guess what.  I was not registered.  Thank heaven for the lovely volunteers manning the Registration desk.  

    I would have been turned away had this law been in effect.

    Volunteering at the polls assisting others to vote:  the most American act a citizen can perform.  

  • Anonymous

    edited, i meant to reply elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    “A landslide election is an election in which one candidate wins by a substantial margin. The precise definition of a landslide election varies, with some people saying that the marginneeds to consist of five points or more, setting a relatively low bar, while others say that themargin should be much higher, closer to 10 or 15 points. If a candidate achieves a landslidevictory, it suggests a strong mandate from the people.
    One notable landslide election occurred in France in 2002, when Jacques Chirac took an astounding 82% of the vote. The 1972 American election between Richard Nixon and George McGovern also ended with a landslide victory for Nixon, who took almost 61% of the popular vote, and 520 electoral votes out of a possible 538. McGovern managed to get 37% of the popular vote, and 17 electoral votes, with a Libertarian candidate picking up the remaining electoral vote. Franklin D. Roosevelt achieved a similar landslide victory in 1936 when running against Alf Landon.”

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-landslide-election.htm

  • Anonymous

    the majority of mainers were through out (sic) your butt?

    weird

    OH!!!  you are so competent, you meant ‘threw” out your butt.  i get it.  you were being funny.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6LQTIO5B4SV7IYWYQ6S37VHAY MASSACHUSETTS

    thank you for voting yes on 1
    now my liberal massachusetts residents that attend college in maine
    can go back to voting with same day {haha!]registration

    now lets see what we can do to ban hunting in maine and
    stop cowards from killing innocence defenseless animals

    woopie pies? bad for you no more whoopie pies in public schools

    maine communities are too white. lets get some diversity going
    in small maine communities. diversity is what makes America strong

    motorcycle helmet law? thats on our agenda

    too many atv snowmobile accidents…time for a new maine law:you must be 21yo to drive one

    yard sales? TAXES no more tax free yard sales in maine

    YES thank you for voting yes on 1 lets get the liberal agenda back on course in maine, starting with my liberal college students from maaasachusetts, voting in maine

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    you played right into their hands and made their point…..keep it up.  I need a good laugh.

  • Anonymous

    Now we have UNelect Gov. LePlague…!!!

  • Anonymous

    I moved to Old Town in June.  I used the BMV service to register to vote for my new address.  I went to the KOC hall yesterday to vote and was not found on the rolls.  Thank heaven for the lovely ladies volunteering at the Register to Vote desk. They assured me I could still register as the law was not yet in effect.  They helped me to register, I did and I voted.

    I’ve never missed an election since 1978.  thank you Maine voters, and thank you to the lovely volunteers who help others on election day.

  • Anonymous

    YES!Charlie lost in Maine ,Kasich lost in Ohio,Personhood lost in MS.YES!What a great day!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    I am part of the 60% that voted yes.  I wonder if it was the same 40% that voted know, also voted for LePage.  It’s a sign of things to come!

  • Anonymous

    I moved in June, and registered to vote through the BMV when I updated my address.  I showed up yesterday to vote and was not on the rolls.  The volunteers at the KOC had a table to register to vote, which they helped me do yesterday.  thank heaven.

    I have worked my entire life and have never missed a single election.  Same day voter registration is good for people. 

  • Anonymous

    Can you come back to Maine run for governor PLEASE!We need you!

  • Anonymous

    true. very true.

  • Anonymous

    Mine too.Still,it puts them on notice that you can and will work against them and make sure Maine is brought back to where it needs to be.Thanks for the update.There is still a lot of sneaky tricks ALEC has up their sleeve.Keep the pressure on.

  • Buzlno

    Much ado about nothing, a tempest in a teapot.  
    I still don’t understand how it would’ve blocked anyone from voting. All the hysterical rhetoric on this site the last few months didn’t explain it at all.
    I also would like to see just how many found they had been accidentally dropped from the voter  list when they showed up at the polls yesterday.  Probably the same # as those caught in the ill fated voter fraud witch hunt.

  • Anonymous

    Bring it up again then.

    We’ll vote on it.

  • Anonymous

    I would have been barred from voting.  I registered at the BMV 6 months ago.  It was not recorded.  Same day voter registration, and the lovely volunteers are what allowed me to vote.

    I have been voting since 1978 and have never missed an election.  I would have been disenfranchised.

  • Anonymous

    here is an exercise:  everyone should try to find at least one area of commonality with someone in the opposite party.

    once we find we agree with someone on something, it becomes less likely that name calling and categorization occurs.  

  • Anonymous

    You make no sense.

  • Anonymous

    But a marvelous day for the majority of us!On to 2012!

  • Anonymous

    that might be true for the School Board position or something, but other issues are pretty fundamental.  

  • Anonymous

    you’d prefer chocolate?

  • Buzlno

    I’d vote yes on thongs.  :=)

  • Anonymous

    You make no sense. None.

    Yes on one restored same day voter registration.

    That’s it.

  • Anonymous

    thank you for your comment and your service.  

    your son, and our country is blessed to have you.

  • Anonymous

    If republicans really cared about our constitution then they would be trying to make it easier to vote not harder, They don’t give a crap about the constitution, only guns. I bet no  one that supported No on 1 would then turn around and support registering gun owners. 

  • Anonymous

    Oh please spare us the drama.

  • Anonymous

    some people consider American history to be the story of expanded suffrage.  to have reversed that trend would have reversed 200+ years of history.

    that is why i voted YES on one.

  • Anonymous

    I honestly think our GOP friends in the legislature are looking at the 61-39 split and are probably pretty nervous this morning.

  • Anonymous

    This stunt that Mr. Webster (and backed by Gov. Le Page) tried to pull was very reminiscent of Joe McCarthy 60 years ago. He came forth with his “list of 200 names” supposedly of Communists in the Army. The accusations were baseless, as were the claims of Mr. Webster, yet what he thought would be a victory for the extreme right wing backfired on him. He was trounced. Even many Republicans saw through this and many of them voted Yes on #1. What remains of the old Margaret Chase Smith wing of the once proud party, coupled with Democrats and Independents, emerged, and voted to keep the voting rights of Mainers intact. THIS, not Mr. Webster’s dim Tea Party vision, is truly Voting Security.

  • Anonymous

    You have a right to vote, No if and or buts. There is no sloth being displayed, my brother had to register because his name was not on the register, he has voted in the same place for 3 years. Will you support registering gun owners? I mean you don’t people buying guns fraudulently right. 

  • Anonymous

    most of them fish for likes, so, no sense posting here this morning.  

  • Anonymous

    Then you should be ashamed of yourself, you by supporting No on 1 is not up holding democracy, it is limiting  it, and you talk about Sheep? Yes let try and create a solution for no problems what so ever. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    Apparently the citizens of this state did and said so in a very loud voice….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    Hmmm 60% of the voters thought so…

  • Anonymous

    I know someone that is very knowledgeable about this election and registered on election day, so BOOM ROASTED!

  • Anonymous

    extremism occurs in both parties.  This is the exercise I suggest for everyone.

    Find someone in the opposite party and find something to agree on.  Once agreement is reached on an issue, it is hard to name call, etc.  We are mostly good people, regardless of party affiliation; so it won’t be too hard to find an area of agreement.

    We all need to do this so that we can end the gridlock and end the extremism.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    well, there are 49 other states you can move to if you don’t like what the voters do here…

  • Anonymous

    i registered 6 months ago through the BMV.  guess what?  I was not on the rolls.  Same day registration saved my vote.  I have not missed an election since 1978.

  • Anonymous

    Not True

  • Anonymous

    apparently your ideas are flawed or you would welcome more people voting on them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    or maybe the voters were smart enough not to buy into the deceptive ads that the No on 1 campaign ran…

  • Anonymous

    Next up The Repeal Voter ID law that is sure to come. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    good for you.  You want a gold star?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    What happened to you is EXACTLY why the repugnants wanted to change the law….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6LQTIO5B4SV7IYWYQ6S37VHAY MASSACHUSETTS

    out of state liberal college students rule!

  • Anonymous

    I moved to Old Town 6 months ago, before that, I lived in Brewer.  I registered to vote at the BMV in June when I updated my Maine license.

    I went to the Knights of Columbus Hall yesterday, and was not on the rolls.
    The kind, lovely volunteers there had a voter registration table set up and helped me to register in my new town.

    I haven’t missed an election since I first voted in 1978.  I am very thankful for same day registration, and for the volunteers who make our democracy work.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    good thing morals aren’t part of the Constitution, which give all citizens the right to vote.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    Pointaway, give it up.  YOU LOST GET OVER IT!!!!

  • Anonymous

    democracy rules

    fools drool

  • Anonymous

    This is simply amazing, I’m so proud! I hope this sends a message to Webster, MHPC, and other radicals — you have to represent all of us, not just yourselves. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    then move to Canada

  • Anonymous

    I am not very surprised at the outcome. I know for me what really made up my mind was the misleading television ads especially the one where a yes vote would give Maine elections away to outside interests and a print ad paid for by the republican party that I still cannot figure out what it had to do with the issue. Both ads set the tone of how I decided to to vote on the issue.

  • Regular Joe

    Are you saying that the people who register to vote on election day do not follow the issues and just decide to go register and vote on their way to the Macy’s Election-Day sale? That’s rude.
    What’s really ironic is that you think that these people who don’t care are actually willing to take more time out of their day to get everything done on one trip. And they are caring enough to actually DO this. That they do not do it in the time frame you think they should doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be allowed to.
    And I did not see ANYONE bending over backwards yesterday to get those voters registered. I just a group of people who were glad to be there to help their fellow Mainers.
    It’s unfortunate that some people think that EVERYONE should be exactly like they are with the same priorities and responsibilities and they are less of a person if they aren’t that way.

  • Anonymous

    If they’re living in Maine for school, they can vote. End of story. 

  • Anonymous

    Well, a huge majority of Mainers disagree with you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    no, but it’s probably the same 39% that voted for LePage.  I can’t wait for 2014!

  • Anonymous

    And now, no one will.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    What really happened today was Maine people that thought voting was their responsibility voted no on one and those that thought it was a right voted yes on one.  As for the rants, no one is better than you at ranting and raving.  I look forward to your future entertainment.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    hello Kettle…BLACK.

  • Regular Joe

    Bull? Rude again.

    How does your response address my comments?

  • Anonymous

    No surprise BMV gets very ilttle right :) btw i need to know how you voted to determine whether your vote was worth saving jk :)

  • Regular Joe

    Contact your legislators and let them know that you don’t support this!

  • Anonymous

    You’re theory is foolish.

  • Anonymous

    lmao.  coffee actually came out of my nose when i read your comment.

    NO kidding

  • Anonymous

    Rant and rave.

    Yawn.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    lol, edited…

  • Anonymous

    what’s wrong with same day voter registration?

  • Anonymous

    It’s true that there was a Republican sweep in 2010. But the people’s veto vote on #1 seems to indicate a certain level of buyer’s remorse. 
    Think of it this way: About the same percentage of voters who cast their ballots for Paul LePage also voted no on #1.

  • Anonymous

    Refute it then.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6LQTIO5B4SV7IYWYQ6S37VHAY MASSACHUSETTS

    illegal aliens rule in maine!

  • Regular Joe

    You must not have read this articles stating how many thousands of people registered to vote in the past two elections.
    You also must not have read the articles stating that Maine has one of the highest turn-out rates and that other states with election-day registration also have high turnout rates.
    This is an off-year election. No one ever said that same day registration would ensure that there would be a stellar turnout in an off year election.
    Lastly, the new law would have ended registration 4 days before the election, not the day before.

  • Regular Joe

    Oh. I see now! Troll! Okay, game over.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6LQTIO5B4SV7IYWYQ6S37VHAY MASSACHUSETTS

    queridos inmigrantes ilegales,
    gente de Maine votaron a favor los días 1 y ganó! , Que significa que puede volver a votar de nuevo en Maine

  • Anonymous

    Quoting Lance Dutson of the Maine Heritage Policy Center Goons: “I’m pleased at the discussion we helped to initiate around making our elections more secure”.
    The only thing you did was out yourself as the heavy-handed buffoons that you are…and you got slapped down by the voters of the State of Maine.

    Try again, ROBthePUBLICan controlled Legislature…and this time YOU’LL be the ones slapped down come election time.

  • Anonymous

    I always get a chuckle when you do that.

  • Anonymous

    Get ready for the backlash Regina. Voting rights in Me, collective bargaining rights restored in OH and that schmuck who wrote AZ’s immigration law was recalled. Last November was the peak of this latest right wing movement that has no real substance. Hope you enjoyed it, it’s over.

  • midmainer

    Charlie, Charlie, your time is done. The era of lies, bull and myth is over. Next time try honesty. Oh and Mr Webster, your comment about your “grassroots” campaign, that’s a good one,,,,,,,,

  • Anonymous

    So true!  I didn’t know what the heck Question 4 was about two hours before I voted, but was quickly able to find good info right here at the BDN.

  • Anonymous

    Thankfully this kind of ignorant rhetoric did not sway responsible Maine voters.

  • Anonymous

    Always…it works out best that way~

  • Anonymous

    You make a great point!  Stand proud for all your efforts!

  • Anonymous

    Voting is way too easy in this state.  Once you are registered, you go in, show NO ID and vote.

    Why should anybody feel comfortable with this?….crazy.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Charlie Webster, you can now take your bag of dirty tricks and slink back to the Koch brothers and tell them we Mainers are a little too smart to be taken in with baseless lies and completely fabricated falsehoods, we no longer want or need your kind in Maine politics.

  • Anonymous

    Well this lib enjoys your postings. Sarcastic, witty, and pointed. But informed. Have a nice tall cold Allens and relax. Personally I was hoping the repubs would be a bit more middle of the road and take up some important legislation but they have failed with this petty nit picking platform of the radical right. I hope they go and we actually get some common sense moderates of either stripe next time.

  • Anonymous

    Well stated, thank you for your eloquent and accurate reflection on the message being sent to the arrogant GOP.

  • Anonymous

    america, the beautiful.

    <3

  • Anonymous

    See Single Track Girl’s comment above.  She registered at the BMV thinking all was well, got to her voting place and was not on the rolls.  A mistake was made and it was rectified on the day of voting – keeping her right to vote intact.

  • Anonymous

    You mean those brothers from that other mother?  The ones that had the rich mother and are ruining America?

  • Anonymous

    We who support freedom for all must be ever-vigilant and not let our guard down one bit.  It’s too bad, but there it is.

  • Anonymous

    Yes and there is no Fraud soo…… your point??? Voting is a right and needs to be protected not made harder to do. I feel comfortable because there is no problems. Why don’t we just stay inside, there are so many bad things that can happen when you leave your house. No problem, no need to fix anything. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ADWVRVJE6S6VFNGV7BPYQY6WWM Mark M

    This just shows that Mainers are schizophrenic. They vote for something that will lesson their voice in voting (encourage fraud in voting and dilute the value of their own votes). But claim some how they are protecting their vote. Also, iIf college students want to vote, they can vote absentee at their home town. And taking 5 minutes out of their lives to plan ahead and do that is not burdensome or disenfranchisement. When people vote in Maine there should be no doubt as to the legal ability for them to vote. Period. And just because something has happened for 38 years doesn’t make it the right way to do it. I’ve been misspelling the word convenence for 30 years, that doesn’t make it right does it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Alexander/700468487 Peter Alexander

    Same day registration makes good sense.  I was able to take my mother-in-law to vote yesterday, only because she was able to register at the same time.  It is a good system, and I’m glad that about 61% of the People of Maine agreed.

  • Anonymous

    very well said. 

  • Anonymous

    In this republic, voting is a civil right. I like to believe it is a civic responsibility as well, but suppose it depends on one’s civic sense and training. As the turnout suggests, many could care less about it or perhaps they’re so disgusted with the grandstanding and bickering they practice avoidance by staying home or going hunting or whatever. Perhaps, just perhaps, some believe that if a fundamental shift  from plutocracy toward real democracy could come about through voting, it would be made illegal. Who knows?

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree, and I believe most folks mean well, I worry about the corporations “which/who” are now people, we have to get this loose cannon lashed down ASAP before it sinks the ship.

  • http://profiles.google.com/talktopete Pete Weissbrod

    I am a voter who often leans republican. I voted YES on #1. Please do not associate republicans with shady election tactics. I think the numbers show that the #1 decision was not a democrat victory but a will of the people.

  • Anonymous

    I’m looking forward to more Charlie rants on how this voting
    issue was stolen by those danged college students and voter fraud. It will be
    interesting to see how they play this one! Stay tuned!

  • Buzlno

    I’m sure it happens, but in the great scheme of things, not enough to warrant the brouhaha that has surrounded this.
    My driver’s license was handed to a cop years ago and he called it a forgery because of a foul up at the registry. Now that took a long time to straighten out and caused a lot more irritation than my inability to cast that tie-breaker vote that was part of the mess.

  • Anonymous

    this is such typical ex-military crap.

    ask JFK, Gabrielle Giffords, Martin Luther King, Abe Lincoln or George Wallace if military service is the only service one can perform for their country.  all those people above were shot or murdered for the participation in democracy.  they were shot for their views.

    and since no has been drafted since Viet Nam, I ask you, how volunteering for service makes you more or less qualified to speak on behalf of our country.

    Thank you for your service, if I haven’t already said that.  But I am going to go out on a limb and say you volunteered and were paid for your service, just like JFK, just like Gabrielle Giffords.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ADWVRVJE6S6VFNGV7BPYQY6WWM Mark M

    How come the ban of absentee voting 2 days before is still in effect?

  • Anonymous

    Some call that condition political myopia; others might see a case of intellectual constipation. Whatever it is, it seems to be debilitating and could even be fatal. Who knows for sure? 

  • Anonymous

     at this rate corporations will be allowed to marry before gay Americans.

  • Anonymous

    It had nothing to do with voter fraud.The republicans would rather see hundreds, perhaps thousand cut out of the voting process to make sure that not even one fraudulent vote would be cast.All their ‘reasoning’didn’t hold water.Even when all their investigations failed to fine what they claimed was happening , they continued to keep looking for that ‘boogie man” who was under the bed.Yesterday the people of Maine told them to stop!

  • Anonymous

    don’t get me started.  i still have a case pending.  i lost my wallet over the 4th, got pulled over and there was no record of my license.  i was on my way to work at 8 am and had not been speeding, apparently he just came up behind me and ran the tag on a lark.

    I had to pay for the tow, lost a day of work, and am facing a $300 fine plus expenses.  All because of a clerical error at the BMV.  I went to their office to straighten it out, a very nice lady helped me, apparently there were two (2) records for me, since I had grown up here, but moved to Florida in the 80′s.

    5 months later, still a hassle.  

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure Hampden is still part of Maine.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that could be a reality, lol … if so, we must insist they produce a valid birth certificate.  Why is who we love, anyone’s business, let alone the government’s?

  • maine 456

    Stop bashing Wikipedia 99 percent of it is accurate. Its 2011 get over it, or go read a book made out of paper.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Charlie Webster and Maine’s GOP are out of touch with what the public thinks is important, following close behind the national GOP and the “issues” they think are important. Issues like consolidating power for the elite in this country, cutting supports for the elderly, disabled, low income, focussing on “the deficit” while over 16% of Americans live in poverty, millions of families face foreclosure from incompetent, criminally liable banks and mortgage firms, 14 to 25 million are un-employed, many more underemployed…

    The GOP has gone off the rails in service to the elites.

    Do you really want the 1% to be MORE powerful than your own government? Support the Occupy movement, attend rallies and marches, voice your outrage at the corruption of our electoral process by the monied interests, work to expose the corruption and for THE RULE OF LAW.

  • http://twitter.com/NorthernRants Bill Buck

    For all those who applaud this vote and ask the republicans to accept it and go away.  What are you thoughts on accepting and going away on the gay marriage that the people also voted on?

  • maine 456

    Not really, a lot of towns have their own things like road repairs, school funding, police funding, public employee salary etc. 

  • Anonymous

    Agreed and happy to hear there are sensible Republican-leaning voters out there, but in all fairness, the Republican party was the instigator in all of this.  They also tried to pass the shady tactic of redistricting in their favor, which was pretty sleazy.

  • maine 456

    I’ll look for your comments of support when theres a story about preserving the second amendment.

  • Anonymous

    Woot!  Woot!

  • Anonymous

    Luv it!

  • Anonymous

    i moved to my town 6 months ago.  i abstained from voting on the local issue because i was not informed enough to decide.

    no need to ban me from voting. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Both parties bear responsibility for the mess our electoral process is in across the country. Yes on 1 DOES represent the will of Maine people. The GOP is, however, guilty of nationwide efforts to limit voting. The fact that the GOP has promoted legislation in many states to this end ought to send you a message the GOP has gone off the rails and is not representing the will of the people. or its own members.

  • Anonymous

    Civil marriage is a civil right, and it is unconstitutional to be denying it to American families.

    Personally, I think the 2009 vote should not have happened, because we should not be allowing the  majority to vote on the civil rights of a minority.

    And personally, I don’t think the outcome of next year’s referendum will be the final word either. That will come from our US Supreme Court, when they rule that gay marriage must be honored nationwide.

    But– it would be nice if Maine could lead the nation by being a state that instituted marriage equality before we are forced to by the feds. We did this with interracial marriage, decades before the Supreme Court mandated it.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Picture ID’s for voting… next on the plate of garbage they will force down our throats… 

  • maine 456

    How about stupidity, as humans we have asteroids passing close to earth on a regular basis and are too busy deciding if democrats or republicans are right to be designing and funding a defense system. 
    Or maybe how we as humans have been so informed when voting that we’ve elected ourselves into a situation where our leaders could push a button and kill all 7 billion of us.

  • ChuckGG

    Well, if the bible-thumping religious right can call the repeal of Marriage Equality a landslide with its 53/47 split, 60% certainly is a rout.

  • Regular Joe

    Correct. We must do what we can to make it more difficult and discourage those silly mopes who think that they can just get up one day and go vote. The maroons.

  • maine 456

    The fact you don’t see what his comment means is proof you shouldn’t vote.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Apparently so. Ha. Silly you.

  • maine 456

    Their puppets… 

  • Anonymous

    Below me.

  • Anonymous

    there is a valid argument that states humans are an endangered species.  When you consider issues like diminishing habit and lack of sustainable food supply, we are right there with the American crocodile and the Cape Sable Sparrow.

  • Anonymous

    ps.  i don’t know if i agree with you Buz.  if it was your vote, would it be worth a bru-haha then?

  • Millicent

    he’s just going to blame it on “the gays”….

  • Anonymous

    In Charlie’s hometown of Farmington, 102 new voters registered on election day, out of a total 2040 who voted. Most, but not all the new voters are UMF students ( all but very few are younger underclassmen Mainers who will likely be in Farmington for the better part of the next two or more years.)  Alas, there no vans to transport them. The newbies walked from their dormitories, most of which practically adjoins the community center, or from apartments nearby. A few might have been gone by car. Most registered singly or in pairs  between classes or later in the afternoon. The registrars were not over-worked in any way. It was all very orderly and conducted according to the law.
    In Farmington, there were 304 more YES then NO votes overall. Good sense prevailed. Charlie can sleep secure in the knowledge that his vote was not violated by anyone.

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s clear that a lot of you on here are Democrats. The Bottom Line is
    that there HAS been a lot of Voter Fraud with SEIU, ACORN, Etc. Carting people
    from location to location to vote Multiple Times. I think this “Idea” that
    republican people want less people to vote is Completely some Demorat BS. It
    makes no sense at all. The USA is mostly a Right Sided Political Scene.
    Therefore Republicans would WANT MORE Voters because Republican is the Majority
    of America. All of you Democrats on here are a Joke in my opinion that want to
    be controlled and live in a Total Nanny State. We should split the USA into 2
    Parts, because the divide between common sense and liberal Rhetoric is far too
    wide.

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s clear that a lot of you on here are Democrats. The Bottom Line is
    that there HAS been a lot of Voter Fraud with SEIU, ACORN, Etc. Carting people
    from location to location to vote Multiple Times. I think this “Idea” that
    republican people want less people to vote is Completely some Demorat BS. It
    makes no sense at all. The USA is mostly a Right Sided Political Scene.
    Therefore Republicans would WANT MORE Voters because Republican is the Majority
    of America. All of you Democrats on here are a Joke in my opinion that want to
    be controlled and live in a Total Nanny State. We should split the USA into 2
    Parts, because the divide between common sense and liberal Rhetoric is far too
    wide.

  • Anonymous

    speaking of voter fraud,  my wife and I both showed up to vote at separate times in our City and BOTH of our names had already been crossed off the list as having voted.  The clerk knew I hadn’t voted yet and said I was at least the 3rd person she had seen that had their name checked off incorrectly (last names starting with A-E).   Since my wife and I have been registered as  Democrats for the past two years, I am wondering if someone was crossing off Democrat voters in an attempt to suppress Democrat turn-out.

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s clear that a lot of you on here are Democrats. The Bottom Line is
    that there HAS been a lot of Voter Fraud with SEIU, ACORN, Etc. Carting people
    from location to location to vote Multiple Times. I think this “Idea” that
    republican people want less people to vote is Completely some Demorat BS. It
    makes no sense at all. The USA is mostly a Right Sided Political Scene.
    Therefore Republicans would WANT MORE Voters because Republican is the Majority
    of America. All of you Democrats on here are a Joke in my opinion that want to
    be controlled and live in a Total Nanny State. We should split the USA into 2
    Parts, because the divide between common sense and liberal Rhetoric is far too
    wide.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a registered Republican who voted YES on 1, and I used election day registration when I moved here more than a decade ago!

  • http://twitter.com/NorthernRants Bill Buck

    Interesting argument.  It is based on the assumption that civil marriage is a civil right, though.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Your comment comes from a bit of a false premise. Republicans shouldn’t “accept it and go away,” they should come back to the reality based community and stop distracting from the real issues, like inequality and poverty. “Voter” fraud is and has been a non-issue from the standpoint of individuals scamming on votes.

    “Vote” fraud IS a big issue when it comes to deliberate efforts to hinder voters from voting. For instance, establishing complicated electronic voting systems that require training for clerks and election officials to use, but insuring only wealthy voting districts get adequate training leaving low income districts without training and technical support hinders the vote in those districts when the machines don’t work properly and can’t be fixed in a timely way to insure everyone gets to vote. This tactic was documented in Ohio and Florida, and benefited republican candidates.

    Or as another example, associating convicted felons from anywhere in the country with people with similar names in Florida, and then disenfranchising those voters in Florida even though they had no criminal records. This took place in Florida in 2000 and disenfranchised up to 92,000 voters.

    That is vote fraud. It is the calculated efforts by unscrupulous election officials and campaigns. These types of things were documented in Ohio and Florida where in both 2000 and 2004 the state official running the election was also the republican candidate’s campaign manager for the respective state. A blatant conflict of interest that resulted in fraudulent results in both cases.

    And although establishing “legitimate” contributions, the Citizens United decision giving corporations free speech rights to influence elections of judges and public officials is a direct assault on the very basis of our democracy thoroughly corrupting the electoral process with money. The voice of the elite becomes more important and influential than the voice of common people with this decision. Government becomes “of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%” instead of “of the people, by the people, for the people.”

    Matters of equality in marriage for people who have spent a lifetime in loving relationships with members of their own sex is not a fraud issue; it is a human rights issue. Your comparison is flawed by both your false premise that republicans should just go away, and by the false comparison of the issues involved.

  • http://twitter.com/NorthernRants Bill Buck

    Charlie went a bit too far with how he positioned this, but McCarthy?  I don’t get it.

  • http://twitter.com/NorthernRants Bill Buck

    Spell check.  Landslide for Demoncrats.

  • Anonymous

    70,000 voters used election day registration in the 2008 and 2010 elections… yet Maine legislature put us through this ordeal over the threat of 200 college students (who actually did vote legally).

    I would like our legislature to do things that make statistical sense, not go to ideological extremes.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for showing what illogical morons look like.

  • Anonymous

    Good for you. Thankfully the majority of Mainers have better things to do than find reasons to justify restricting voter registration.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Unsubstantiated BS. If you are going to make such baseless accusation provide some proof.

    For instance, registered dems in Maine are just about equal to registered repubs… both at or around 25 to 30%. Independents far outweigh registered voters of either party…

    Get your facts straight before commenting.

  • Anonymous

    I am sure that Voter Fraud happens on both sides, Repub and Demo. That is why the Govt. on either side can’t be trusted. Electronic voting enables fraud even more. I don’t think this is an issue about suppressing votes, as much as an issue of Many votes happening at different town offices by the same people…

  • Anonymous

    It would have been helpful if your side had presented actual proof of a problem that this legislation actually fixed. But they didn’t, so sane Mainers voted to keep a good benefit!

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Ask the Attorney General to investigate. It is your right. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Unsubstantiated BS. If you are going to make such baseless accusation provide some proof.

    For
    instance, registered dems in Maine are just about equal to registered
    repubs… both at or around 25 to 30%. Independents far outweigh
    registered voters of either party…

    Get your facts straight before commenting. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Unsubstantiated BS. If you are going to make such baseless accusation provide some proof.

    For
    instance, registered dems in Maine are just about equal to registered
    repubs… both at or around 25 to 30%. Independents far outweigh
    registered voters of either party…

    Get your facts straight before commenting. 

    Btw, we heard you the first time…

  • Briney

    A rousing success.  Mainers capping both tea pot and GOPer fear mongering tactics.  

  • Anonymous

    Regina, the word is “threw”, not “through” and 61% of voters preferred anyone but LePage.  Would you join me in making sure we have a run-off for every state race so that we really do have majority rule? 

  • Anonymous

    The analogy is that each dreamed up a “list of 200 names” which didn’t exist in reality. McCarthy needed to manufacture a list of supposed left wingers in The Army to further his agenda. His recklessness was called out by none other than our own Margaret Chase Smith on the Senate Floor.  Mr. Webster also concocted this imaginary list of fraudulent voters in order to drum up fear and generate dollars for HIS agenda, and that of the right wing here. The voter fraud speeches backed up by this empty evidence didn’t fly. Do you see the analogy now?

  • maine 456

    That was very responsible of you, unfortunately is not always the case. 

  • Anonymous

    I was reading 4mer as “former”Glad you are here fighting for us.Thanks for the update.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! We want to ensure a nanny state by repealing a law? Get real.

  • Anonymous

    Both state and federal courts have determined that civil marriage is a civil right.

  • Anonymous

    There are Videos that clearly showed what was happening in our last Presidential Election. You need to go to Infowars.com a NON-Partied Neutral site and read quite a Bit. I WITNESSED vans of these people that were being bussed around with my own eyes. And also, I am not talking about Maine. I am talking the whole entire USA on Right weighted voters.

  • Anonymous

    The word to describe Mainers (at least the 61% who voted yes) is knowledgeable.  With one case of actual voting fraud in the last ten years, the Rs crying wolf about voting fraud are just  a tad paranoid.  Know your law, Mark M: both federal law and a US Supreme Court decision allow college students to vote in their college towns.  This seems only fair, as they are paying sales taxes in those towns.  The Boston Tea Party was against taxation without representation.  Today’s self-styled Tea Party is against taxation and and against representation of those with whom they disagree.  We are not a government of some of the people.  When a majority of Mainers reject your point of view the answer is not to make it harder for some of your opponents to vote.  

  • Anonymous

    A citizen’s “hometown” (assuming it’s where one grew up – we all have one) has nothing to do with one’s current domicile, unless it’s the same. Where a citizen currently lives is where a citizen is legally entitled to register and to vote. It’s that simple. We can worry about potential for fraud no matter where people register and vote, I suppose,but that worry hasn’t necessarily been justified by actual practice has it?  The potential for cheating is present in every element of the social contract by which we agree to live and work among one another, isn’t it? The record shows it is  much less likely to happen in voting than in other practices where the honest ones’ efforts are lessened or negated by the wrongdoing of others – paying taxes honestly  or driving responsibly, for instance.
    I think it’s safe to believe Maine town clerks and other voter registrars, ballot clerks and election wardens take their responsibilities seriously and closely follow the rules, and our long record of clean elections in this state justifies this belief. When and if this should deteriorate to the point where the methods of registration and voting are clearly dysfunctional then should we go back to the drawing board. Not to reform it at that point would be as foolish as to do so when it works.

  • Anonymous

    I guess this shows that the economy will never be fixed.

  • Anonymous

    The best example of voting fraud is Charlie Webster’s fraudulent campaign to convince us that it existed.

  • Anonymous

    129 likes  . Well done and well-expressed.

  • Anonymous

    I know what you mean.  And she calls mainer4ever’s posts “vitriol.”  What a laugh…..guess she doesn’t read her own!

  • Anonymous

    Knocking down beer chasers in Florida would be a more suitable role for Governor LePlague. 

  • Anonymous

    YEAH!  YOU TELL HER (or him…whoever this Regina Hosebeast is…pretty backward thinking on their part), but it takes all kinds doesn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Your non-existent “voter fraud” is beginning to sound like one very very broken record.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I agree wholeheartedly!

  • Anonymous

    Pointaway, can you name any other constitutional right for which I must register before I can exercise it?

  • Anonymous

    You got it!

  • Anonymous

    It has been working well in Maine for a long time and will continue to. Get over it.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent!

  • Anonymous

    Pointaway, let us suppose that the government required you to register two days before you sought to speak in the public square to voice your point of view.  Would you feel that your right to speech had been restricted?  

  • Anonymous

    You sound bitter and very wrong.

  • Anonymous

    First, learn the meaning of schizophrenia, secondly, applying new rules to a system that is not broken; that is in fact working very well, is indicative of what manifests itself in relation to someone with the diagnosis of schizophrenia. Delusional thinking also plays a part in schizophrenia, and believing something is wrong when it isn’t is delusional Mark.

  • Anonymous

    People like that name-call and insult……they are not sure of themselves and their views really or there would be no need for it.

  • Anonymous

    Wow huge turnout 30% of registered voters.. less than one would think. I guess most would think these elcection were a waste of time. must have been mostly the unemployed voting in rage. we don’t get to vote in Iraq

  • Anonymous

    I was pleased by last night’s vote on Question #1, but it saddens me a bit this morning to realize the enormous amount of energy and resources that were required to disprove what, to me, was obvious: Mainers believe in their distinction as an electorate which encourages citizen participation in the voting process. Setting up barriers to reduce voter turnout is wrong.

    A nasty lie was originated and perpetuated here over the past year: Maine’s Voting Procedures May Not be Secure!

    Sowing the seeds of mistrust within a population frustrated by economic strife is a relatively simple tactic and, as we’ve seen, is rather effective in gathering headlines.

    The good news is that most people are smart enough to realize that the best way to vitalize a democracy is to increase voter turnout not suppress it.

    The voices of distrust are quite today, but they will sound again tomorrow. The new battle cry will be Voter ID, but the underlying message will be the same: Beware of Voter Fraud!

    As a boy, my dad gave me a powerful flashlight to keep beneath my pillow at night and told me,

    “The best way to chase the Boogieman from the closet is to shine a bright light on him.”

  • Anonymous

    Understand that voting is a right.  Point to a single instance in which someone has voted by impersonating someone else and I will take your post seriously. Otherwise, I will dismiss it as paranoia.

  • Anonymous

    Glad to hear that.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t have Larry as your councilperson any longer!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for your great comments.  Your dad was right.

  • Anonymous

    but skyrim comes out friday :)

  • Anonymous

    You might inform/educate yourself a  bit  more. (distinctions,etc.)

  • danwoj

    A lot of people are upset because they think college students “from away” are unfairly voting in having a voice in Maine’s politics.  My guess is that a great majority of college voting would occur during presidential elections. In this regards, shouldn’t their voices be counted?  In 2008 Mr. Obama successfully courted and received the college vote.  This is just a simple attempt by the GOP to take that block of voters off the table.  If one truly believes that their candidate is best, then shouldn’t they want to make sure every eligible voter gets to vote? If your cause is just, why do you need to resort to scare tactics?  First it was voter fraud, then it was too much work for town clerks and lastly it was “the GAYS”.  Really? 

  • Anonymous

    Below me.

  • Anonymous

    Below me.

  • Anonymous

    Below me.

  • Anonymous

    Gracias cabron.

  • Anonymous

    Below me.

  • pbmann

    I stand corrected.

    I looked up Maine’s Provisional Ballot procedure and you are correct but each state determines how their provisional ballots are handled.  Knowing how the current administration is, what would stop them from changing the proceedure to fix that “obvious” vulnerability in the voting laws?

  • pbmann

    Try 40% in an off year election, that is a good turnout for an off year election.  Why would you misstate the percentage?

    It just goes to show that even with “only 40% turnout” the Republicans could not get a win on this issue.  Doesn’t look good for them in 2012.

  • pbmann

    Wow, I didn’t know that same day voter registration was why the economy is so bad.

  • Anonymous

    You make a false distinction between right and responsibility.  Voting is both a right an a responsibility.  It is not a case of one or the other.  I responsibly exercised my right to vote Yes on 1.  And I trust you responsibly exercised your right to vote No on 1.

  • pbmann

    Where is your prove of widespread voter fraud.  Charlie Webster was not able to find any but you were?  Why did you not present this ‘evidence” to him?

    As for Republican’s wanting more votes then why are all of the Republican lead states doing all they can to limit and restrict voting.  If they are such a majority then Republicans would welcome all voters.  AND why would Republican strategist be on record admitting that their voting strength is diluted by more voters?

  • pbmann

    If you saw this why did you not report it?  And if it did not happen in Maine, as you state, why change the law IN MAINE?

  • Anonymous

    Effective and insightful comments, CrisEdwardJohnson!

  • Anonymous

    I am very proud of the Mainers who voted to fight for our voting rights.  Congratulations!

  • pbmann

    Well said

  • Anonymous

    Moral? It is a sin to vote if you just moved to Maine? Not a good argument. And, the issues we just voted on are common sense issues. Well, except for question 4. I put off getting up to speed on that one, but it took no time last weekend to read up on the issue.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25LJ6KETIP5DVBAPMUYRGCCDTU Brandon D

    Agreed;  I vote he become a garbage collector.  Serves the community, and spends time with something related to his favorite thing to do: spew junk out of his mouth.

  • Anonymous

    39% AND LESS..considering all the 1st time registered voters are the ones who came out. the count was done in august and since then more have registered close maybe over a million so the outcome will most like be around 37% turnout…

  • Anonymous

    How ignorant- what a Hosebeast!

  • pbmann

    Because an absentee ballot has to be mailed in.   A voted Absentee ballot must be received by the municipal clerk by 8:00 p.m. on Election Day that is why.

    http://maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/absenteeguide.html

  • Anonymous

    We are waiting to hear about all the bus loads of illegal aliens, out of state students, and multiple voters that turned up to shoot this down. Must have been the case!

  • Anonymous

    Why should I need to show ID to the lady I pay my real estate taxes to and register my vehicles with?   P0lling day is a great time to catch up with neighbors you haven’t seen in a while and buy some baked goodies to help the local Cub Scouts. 

    Why should anyone feel uncomfortable with this?    . . . .paranoia.

  • pbmann

    Please help steer the Republican Party back towards the middle.  It has been hijacked by extreme right wing and needs help from Republicans like you to get it back to where it should be. 

    My first Presidential vote was for  a Republican but since 2000 there has not been a real good choice from them.  I would love to have a reasonable choice at the polls but as of right now I do not believe that is the case.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, I thought you needed a permit for a public gathering  . . .

  • pbmann

    Then we will have to veto it just like this was vetoed

  • pbmann

    Eres idiota

  • pbmann

    Hoorah!

  • pbmann

    Just one of many paid trolls of the Maine Heritage Foundation, the real threat to democracy.

  • Anonymous

    Mark I just loved the way you started your post off by calling Mainers a name. I am sure you feel strongly about the issues you outlined in this post and that is a good thing. Everyone is entitled to an opinion in our society. In fact yesterday the people of Maine voiced their opinion where it really counts, in the voting booth, and 60 % of us seem to share a different opinion of things then you do. 

  • Anonymous

    Don’t celebrate too long or too hard on this issue.  It was the issue that won on it merits.  The last “Peoples Veto” of the great Tax Shift brought to you by the last Democratic Administration and the Democratically controlled legislature lost by the same percentages 61 to 39.  

  • Anonymous

    The people of Maine have told Charlie exactly what they think of him. Total rejection comes to mind. Yesterday the voters of Maine took back our State and in the process sent a message to the radical right tea party republicans who are temporarily in charge in Augusta.  

  • Ryan Carrier

    Guess what:  I didn’t vote because I thought the law was already enacted and hadn’t registered 2 days prior due to work keeping me out of town!  Thanks for keeping it easy for me to vote!  Besides an 8 year stint in the military, I’ve lived here my whole life!  

  • pbmann

    They do marry right now.  What would you call a corporate merger?

  • Anonymous

    Hah! I see the disconnect here.

    You chaacterize 1/3  as a majority!

    There are still 2/3 of us out here who disagree – everytime.

    lol

  • pbmann

    It seems like a lot of paid bloggers are a little worried about their jobs this morning.  I bet the Koch brothers are spitting nails right now and that has got to worry the Heritage Foundation trolls on BDN’s forum.

  • Anonymous

    Did anyone ever ask the 8 DEM house reps that didn’t bother to vote on the final bill what was so important? None of this might have been necessary had they shown up for their job.
    (13 house members missed the vote plus one seat vacant. Passed the house by 7 votes?)

  • pbmann

    Even using 37%, which I think is low but neither of us will know for sure, is still closer to 40% then 30%. 

    At least when I went to school, if you were going to round up or down the cut off was 5 and over went to the next higher level.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget to thank Mississippi in their clear rejection of the dubious  “Personhood. Amendment’ aimed at overturning Roe v. Wade and the women’s private right to choose.

    In the words of our most recent and prolific Tea Party sage, “Ain’t gonna happen’…

  • pbmann

    The “Great Tax Shift” was revenue neutral and would have increased the taxes on out of state visitors, thru increases in Sales Tax on  restaurants and hotels and lowered Maine’s Income Tax.  If not for the large influx of out of state money and their threat that increasing Hotel taxes would stop people from coming to Maine, the vote may have been different.

  • Anonymous

    I hope Republicans realize future abuses of power will be met with the same fury as this ballot issue, but sadly, I bet they will next push for voter IDs to make it harder for the same constituencies this next session. GOP abuses of power will continue until ALL of them are thrown out of office,

  • Anonymous

    : (

  • Anonymous

    Cry me a river.

  • Anonymous

    The overwhelming vote also was Maine’s answer to GOP ABUSES OF POWER, but will the GOP listen or try another stunt to make it harder to vote….like voter IDs.

  • Anonymous

    Given the facts of last year’s election, the majority of people voted “not Lepage”.  Had the independent candidate been seen as more conservative, the election would likely have gone the other direction.  The numbers with regard to the legislature do seem to support your notion, but midterm elections say little about long-run political trends because too few people tend to vote in them.  It will be interesting to see what effect fringe political movements have next year, though, since voting in major election years tends to be somewhat more indicative of real population-wide trends.

  • Anonymous

    Great job legislature…..now what else can you find to “improve” so you can screw it up…..do any of you EVER bother to speak to the people you allegedly represent?????

  • Anonymous

    You win. i was trying to show how low the turnout was…which it was… maybe would have been better of to keep those issues to vote next year

  • Anonymous

    are you an accountant by any chance

  • Buzlno

    My vote was only one part of my “you don’t exist” dilemma. I don’t think it would have been the tie-breaker vote either.   :-)
    Before the days of everyone having a SS#, I went on my eighteenth birthday to register for the draft and to vote.  My license had the wrong birthdate on it so I wrote the state about it.   I have my Father’s name but wasn’t using ‘Junior’ so they got us messed up and I became a non person.  I lost out my chance to vote my first time out. Irritated but not outraged.

  • Buzlno

    I’m glad they were able to, but my initial wonderings were how many had been unexpectedly dropped from the rolls when they had arrived at the polls.  SingleTrack Girl was one out of how many. Just curious.

  • Anonymous

    Do not confuse the right of free speech with the right of free assembly.  No permit has ever been required for an individual to speak in public.  The right of free assembly can be subjected to time, manner and place restrictions, but as many towns have found out, restrictions that are in any way burdensome are quickly struck down.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/antonio.giarratano Antonio Giarratano

    “Maine voters sent a clear message: No one will be denied a right to vote,”

    No one was denied anything! It sounds like a bunch of excuse ridden lazy people if you ask me. Get off your butts and register. You have the entire year to register, and that is only if you move, turned 18, etc. You people make a big stink about the stupidest things.
    Last time I checked same-day voter registration is a convenience, a courtesy, not a right. How much time and money was wasted by the legislature, the campaigns, the voters, no matter the view, for it, against it, does it really matter.

    It’s the day after, 99% have reported in, yet only 40% of registered voters actually voted, what a waste.

  • Buzlno

    Nothing,really. I just don’t understand the whirlwind  debate that surrounded it.
    “Sign up early and vote often” is what’s been espoused for years.

  • Anonymous

    Why not a 5 year pre-registration requirement then?

    Just to be real sure you know?

    Would you support that?

    If not, how much time is your maximum?

  • pbmann

    I thought this was interesting, especially for those that think because the turnout was only arond 38 to 40% of registered voters this election it doesn’t mean that much.

    233,040 people voted to repeal the law that ended same day voter registration.
    216,761 people voted for LePage when he won the governorship.

    That could be a sign of things to come.

  • pbmann

    Why because I know how to round up?

    Not a CPA but I have taken 2 college accounting classes not that that means anything.  Accountants rarely, if ever, round up or down.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TJYZV7JWWJCPG7BX65EM6UOHZ4 Skowhegan Resident

    Two weeks ago hundreds of Colby College students were expected to show up at the Watervillie town office,show valid Maine ID, prove they were eligible to take vote in Maine, and take absentee ballots to vote in Maine

    3 students showed up with valid IDs, hundreds of Colby students were no shows.

    Why do you think hundreds of Colby College students never showed up?
    Could it be they knew their IDs were going to be carefully looked at?

    Vote Yes on 1 won,Maine residents lost

  • pbmann

    This was on off year election.  Off year elections are always low turnout elections, usually around 25 to 30 %.  So this election had a high voter turn out for an off year election.

  • Anonymous

    1) What was the problem that was fixed by eliminating same-day voter registration again?

    I’m still unclear on that particular point, thanks.

    2) Also, do you agree that the people should have the right, as they currently do in our referendum process, to overrule any law?

  • Anonymous

    You believe “the mindset and motivations” behind amendment to be “very dangerous.”  That makes the demogoguery on all sides, a resounding success.  We cannot afford to be blindsided in this manner.

    If you believe in the importance of Constitutional rights and the power of the ballot, you would walk through a blizzard to register and to vote, would you not.

    If the mindset behind the amendment was, in fact, to prevent people from voting – as opposed to registering to vote – - then that body politic loses by the shear stupidity of believing  that anyone would stand for disenfranchisement, and, indeed, I would find that tactic laughable.  I do not, however, find the disenfranchisement scare, amusing, as it came from people who profess to have similar beliefs about governance and constitutionality, to my own. 

    Would we not be willing to take up arms if necessary to defend the right to vote.

    Ironically, what you say, how you say, and your reaction to my reponses is of great consequence to me, as should be the case.  What we say indicates adherence to, rejection, or the questioning of the principles upon which we base important decisions.

  • Anonymous

    Our voting rights were not in danger. 

  • pbmann

    One is one too many. 

  • Anonymous

    Ah.  My comments must be bothering you, as you resort to the lowest form of name-calling.

  • pbmann

    Argument is moot once you used the word Demoncrat.

    Question… Does the Heritage Foundation/Koch Brothers  pay by the word or by the post?  Just askin’…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    btw – the majority of Maine did NOT throw us out as you put it.  38% did.  The same amount that voted no on this question….Can’t wait for 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Well the message in this election is clear; Mainers are too stupid to secure their own elections, so now cheating can continue unabated. This time I hope the GOP is wise enough to adopt the voter scams the democrats are famous for. Amazingly not only do us “right-wingers” think our elections arent safe, but your leftist heros down at Occupy Wall Street do too. One of their “demands” is that we bring our elections and ballots up to international standards. So one can deduce from this that the typical Maine voter is even dumber than the typical Occupy protester, and after voting for democrats for 30 straight years while our State was run into the ground the intelligence level of the Maine voter is as doubtful as ever. If anything this demonstrates the need for an IQ test as a condition to vote. Most of you wouldnt make the cut.

  • Anonymous

    Below me.

  • pbmann

    But if you walked thru a blizzard and some how you had been purged from or left off of the voter rolls, you would have walked thru a blizzard for nothing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    True enough but if we take our responsibility seriously, then registering prior to voting would never be an issue thus the reason that I voted no. 

  • pbmann

    WOW, UMF’s van can write… cool

  • Anonymous

    That must be a sight!

  • pbmann

    Right wing trolls always attack the source but never refute it

  • pbmann

    What if she moved from Portland to Bangor on the weekend.  Would she still not have a reason to vote in the election?

  • Anonymous

    Many real Republicans were Yes on One.

    They get it.

    The problem is that their party has fractured after the T P’s took the helm.

    The old R’s are being choked off.

  • pbmann

    Why would she file an absentee ballot if she planned on voting in person?  Absentee ballots are supposed to be for people hwo will not be able to make it to the polls on Election Day.

  • pbmann

    But at this point in time they do. very much so!

  • pbmann

    And conservatives are all well informed when they make their votes?  I can find hundreds of videos on youtube showing conservative imbeciles.

  • Anonymous

    If that was the only requirement to allow me to speak freely in the public square, you bet I’d register, and I would not believe that my right to speech had been restricted.

    Ever wonder about the thought process that goes behind comments made in the Internet?  I do.  It’s so easy to post whatever you want to, even when posts would be called seditious and treasoness.  (Ihappen to object to those, and do not believe that is “free speech”).

    You see what happens if anyone questions the majority:  Derision.  Obstruse arguments.  I have not spoken in the public square for three years, and I would bet that, as here, a lone speaker would no longer be safe from the seething anger and fear of the public.

    But as to having the commitment to register to vote, and doing so in advance of an election, that is not unreasonable.  I think it is unreasonable not to have nationally-standardized voting procedures, and that includes local voting procedures.  Energy put to that end would stop so much that is wrong, or purported to be wrong.

    Would I pass through armed guards in order to register?  I hope so, but it is too hypothetical, and yet and I believe asking that question, and answering it, even hypothetically, at least gives the registration and voting process a wholly different perspective.

  • Anonymous

    Keep your day job.

    Your stand-up act is lame.

  • pbmann

    As opposed to conservatives that base thier decisions on disagreeing with whatever Democrats say?  Who also get their political knowledge from assumptions and wishes and Fox News.

    For example, Obama’s Healthcare initiative is basicly the same as the National Health Plan set forth by the Republicans in 1980 but defeated by Sen. Kennedy.  But now the Republicans call it Socialized Medicine.  Oh, and Kenendy defeated it because it did not have a single payer option…

    That is just one example of how much the Republican Party has changed, and for the worse.

  • Anonymous

    The right to bear arms – but, as you know, the registration requirment as to type of weapon varies, and registration requirements have done little to stop the proliferation of illegally-owned and used weapons.

  • pbmann

    Why not test them to make sure they are informed as well.. Oh wait that would be unconstitutional

  • Anonymous

    No.  I would have asked — demanded – a provisional ballot and been allowed to vote, and would have stayed put until I had voted.

  • Regular Joe

    Why don’t these people understand that when you live here for 9 months of the year, then you’re LIVING here.  If anything, the student has more of a stake in Maine than in his or her hometown.
    Or, if you’re going to attack the student’s right to vote, then you have to address the people who flee Maine when it gets cold and stay away until the first sign of Spring.

  • Anonymous

    Well, at least 13 people believe the falsehood you are stating.  Too bad. A properly registered voter can always vote – name on the list – or not.  Have you read all the State Statutes?  Several times is good.

  • Anonymous

    You are wrong.  I voted No and would fight hard to ensure that all gun owners were registered.

  • pbmann

    We take our resposibility seriously by voting not by when we register.  How is registering once and never changing your address, thus never having to re-register more responsible than a person who registers in a new town the day of the election?

    Maybe everyone should have to re-register every election cycle to make sure they are taking their voting resposiblilty seriously?

  • pbmann

    233,233 voted to repeal this law, only 216,761 voted for LePage.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, you are really setting up an army of straw men there! Too bad they bear no basis in reality.

    The truth is that there was no valid reason for the legislation that was passed. It did not address potential voter fraud, it did not fund any improvements to our voter registries, and it was clear from the follow up that the law was specifically intended to make voting harder for college students, new voters, and those who move from apartment to apartment over the course of a year.

    I’m glad to see my fellow Mainers saw through these irrelevant scare tactics, and voted to uphold a benefit that tens of thousands of legitimate Maine voters use every election.

  • Anonymous

    But you didn’t have to register, again.  You should have been given a ballot even though your name was not on the list.  They would then, after the fact, prove or disprove your registration, but the onus of proof was on the system, not on the voter — you.

  • Anonymous

    Which is based on Supreme Court rulings— civil marriage is a civil right.

  • Anonymous

    Youbetcha!

  • pbmann

    hmm… possible reasons they did not show up….

    Classes, work  are two reasons I can think of

  • pbmann

    40% is a huge turnout for an off year election with no major candidate elections involved.

  • pbmann

    So even with a small voter turnout Republicans can’t get their ideas passed.

    Edited for spelling

  • Anonymous

    “Looks to me like you are the one ranting. I find it amusing that you continue to post your vitriol in this forum. ”

    Shame on him, the damned liberal  for being just those people who you did/can not deny are not only are ranting  jerks, but are ranting on about things that are  out of step with the real majority of Maine voters.  

    Speaking of which, EVERYONE: 

    Has anyone else noticed and/or become concerned, too, about how much of the Administration’s  agenda and efforts has to do with strange, unpopular losing political propositions involving  quite young  people, minors in fact ?  
    I don’t quite understand it. I do not want to curdle anyone’s cream, but doesn’t it seem that there is always something fishy brewing in that kettle of chowah ?  

    It suah seems so to me.
    I don’t understand all this interest in the barely legal , nor why it continues,
    unless it very popular with the conservative core supporters of the LePage  Administrstion.  

    There is not, nor will be ever one single place that it will be politically correct to ask bout this in general terms, to bring up the topic than than where their failing agenda, their political flops, not being the will of the people of the Maine is already being discussed as an undeniable fact. 

    So never mind the details or the merits of each of these other various failed
    and/or flawed measures put forth by the LePage  Administration in the past year, 
    but just look at it and tell me you if you can’t a certain pattern of behavior that is curious, at the very least  ?

    Especially, measured by the political success this this focused approach  
    relative to the effort and political capital being spend, anyway. 

    So why is there is always something on table, some back door,
    a minor  issue that this Administration has cooked up that focuses on quite young  people, and not in a such good way.  

    Is just sort of like some strange illogical obsession ?  

    Training wage…. 
    Longer Work hours…
    Driver licences for teenagers … 

    By whom, and why is more political capital efforts spent upon
    in controlling the lives of fifteen year old boys and girls 
    than on creating good jobs ?  

    Could it be  a kind of inappropriate political behavior, to say the very least   ? 

    I’m just saying.

  • Anonymous

    legally obligated to or just wish and dream “should have”

  • Anonymous

    I don’t call electing a governor with 28% of the vote as voting anyone’s butt out.  Your party’s donkeylike stubborness is preventing any problems from being solved.  And the only vitriol I have seen so far is your rant and not from anyone else

  • Anonymous

    Because it’s the law, only the Legislature could change it. And should the Legislature do that, with the governor’s blessing, voters could veto the new law. It’s not likely the statute would be changed, because there are so few challenges to ballots. And even if there were more, the ballots would simply face more scrutiny in a recount.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TJYZV7JWWJCPG7BX65EM6UOHZ4 Skowhegan Resident

    and the other reason….they only had Massachusetts and Connecticut IDs

  • Anonymous

    It would be great if BDN could print of list of all legislators and their vote on this statute.  I suspect quite  a few republicans and democrat legislators are trying to stay under the radar on this this.  We should call them out.

  • pbmann

    You lost, you are in the minority.  A properly registered voter is one who has registered to vote upto and including on Election Day.  You need to read the State Statutes.

  • pbmann

    What are international standards…..? 

    Voting on the weekend, instead of a weekday?

    Having your finger dyed purple to signify that you voted?

    Having a paper trail to make sure the votes are collected and tabulated correctly?

    or

    Allowing the brother of a candidate be in charge of a state’s election apparatus? Wait we do that.

  • pbmann

    evidence to back up that statement

  • Anonymous

    Republican legislators I’m sure, but from what I read it was a strict partisan vote, which means no Democrats voted on the measure.

  • Anonymous

    Truly, we should have our elections on a weekend.

    But to be fair, in the Middle East elections are on the weekend because that is a workday. Their weekends are Thursday/Friday.

  • Anonymous

    Well, to be fair, 100% of US Citizens who are college students in Maine have a right to vote where they attend school. This right is established by our US Supreme Court.

    But even if you disagree with hundreds of out-of-state college students performing their civic duty and voting, you must admit that the math doesn’t add up to deny tens of thousands of Mainers the benefit of election day registration over a handful of college students.

    I’m glad we repealed that bad law, it did nothing to secure our voting process, it just made things more inconvenient for Mainers everywhere!

  • Anonymous

    Incorrect, 100% of them had Colby College student ID’s, I guarantee it.

  • Anonymous

    “it’s not that bad a restriction on voting!”

    That’s your best argument? No wonder you lost.

  • Anonymous

    That’s  about all yours is too.  When I read your post at the start  of the comments the impression I got was that of a person who would hide in the trenches screaming at the enemy in a pitch that all his comrades could hear him but hoping noone else could.  Now the libs and the lazies, ect. can vote on the same day.  No having to get out of bed twice.  Do even live in Maine..FormerMainer?? You obviously have an ax to grind.  Could it have something to do with the whining liberals having lost 40 years of control of Augusta???  

  • Anonymous

    That is shocking … the yes vote was not 100%? amazing

  • maine 456

    In my opinion we should have universal healthcare, the funding could be acquired if our politicians stopped spending on stupid things. They could take the same amount they spend every year on war and put it into medical research. I haven’t heard a viable plan from any party. 

  • Anonymous

    yes and there was a higher than normal new voter registration question 1 helped that . if you don’t vote you should have nothing to say as the old saying goes

  • Regular Joe

    What?  What does that mean?

    And you never got back to me on why I was hateful yet the other person escaped your censoring actions.

  • Anonymous

    Now let’s hope the GOP stops their political election rigging agenda and starts getting their votes the old fashion way…earn them…by working for the people, not the Party.

  • Anonymous

    ” those that thought it was a right voted yes on one.”
     … so in combination with those that know it is our right to vote , YES won, 
    and our rights were preserved, right ?

  • Anonymous

    Different standards apply, Gopher. 

  • Anonymous

    Okay, and why not  just forget them, too,
    because even they are innocent until the State proves them guilty, 
    in America , still, right ? 

    Been any arrests for voter fraud, yet, Mr. Charley ?

  • Regular Joe

    So then further restricting the voter registration will do little to stop the massive voting fraud occurring now in the state.

  • Anonymous

    A 2/3 majority is not enough ? 

    But I guess the steps being taken fixing it so the fearless leader always gets 100 % 
    0f the vote didn’t fly, did it ? 
    2/3 majority is good enough for me.

    Why not you,  Larry ?  

  • Anonymous

    “This just shows that Mainers are schizophrenic.” 

    I bet if Roxy Quimby said something like that,
    conservatives would be really angry and make lots of ugly noises about it.

  • Anonymous

    Voter fraud ???? 

    Have there been any arrests yet ? 

    The only logical choices  , then,   are:

    1) to believe there was lots of voter fraud in this election,  but that Mr. Charley and the Goverah are  too weak on crime to enforce the law, 

    2) or not competent enough to catch the criminals that just everyone just knows must still exist.

    Right ?

  • Anonymous

    The very same thing happened to my son about5 years ago!!!

  • Anonymous

    ” If republicans really cared about our constitution then they would be trying to make it easier to vote not harder, ”

    They did …. about 40 years  ago. 
    Who wanted to change that ?

  • Anonymous

      If you had to register on a Monday to speak on a Wednesday and only decided, in listening to other speakers on Wednesday, that you needed to speak, I gently suggest you would feel that your rights had been infringed.  I have worked the polls for years and have seen same day registration help people who had previously registered, but whose paperwork never made it to the precinct by Election Day.  I have seen it help people who have just moved within the town, or just moved into the town. 
      That you are willing to burden your right to vote is no justification for trying to burden another’s right to vote.   I could care less about guns or religion, but I will fight to prevent the burdening of the right to go to church or to carry a hunting rifle.  My comments are on point and never ad hominem.  I criticize people’s ideas, not their person.  Most of the real nastiness I read on the BDN website comes from the right.     Treason is a tough crime to prove under the Constitution.  I can’t judge that charge without seeing the comment at issue.  Advanced registration is of relatively recent origin in the US and only came into play in the second half of the 19th century as the franchise slowly expanded to other than white males with property.  If we believe in democracy, we should, like most of the world, have elections on weekends so that people can actually find the time to vote.  Claims of “voter fraud” are easy to prove from a legal standpoint.  The absence of prosecution for such crimes tells me there is no problem here that needs such anti-democratic measures as picture IDs and advanced registration.  The right has a choice: it can try to convince people or it can try to stop them from voting.  The former is legitimate, the latter, in whatever guise, is not.

  • Anonymous

    I just got to ask, how would pre-registration by eligible voters cut hundreds or thousands out of the voting process?  And doesn’t each person have to register only once in their life as long as they live at the same address? 

  • Anonymous

    lol.  haven’t seen him actively posting anymore….

  • Anonymous

    Let’s eat, Gramma.
    Let’s eat Gramma.

    Grammar saves lives.

  • Anonymous

    Watch those ad hominems, Pointaway.  You will find me neither ignorant nor slothful.  One   campaign talked about the need to preserve the right to vote and make sure every voice was heard.  The other campaign involved easily disproved claims of voter fraud by Charlie Webster and a bizarre ad about Maine’s “voting ethics” laws.  The left took the high road; the right tried misdirection.  The voters weren’t fooled.

  • Anonymous

    ehh-hmmm.

    your comment is way too thoughtful and on-point for this discussion.

    (jk)

  • Anonymous

    I moved 5 months ago and registered at the BMV within a few days.
    I showed up to vote yesterday and was not registered.
    Same day registration allowed me to cast my vote.  I am very thankful since I have not missed an election since 1978.

  • Anonymous

    Do you even know what schizophrenia is??

  • Anonymous

    not a nice feeling.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t need an ID to vote. What are you even talking about?

  • Anonymous

    The turnout was high for an off election year. So yes, it does mean something, especially when the margin the veto won by was 20%.

    Some will always try to spin and minimize their loses.

  • Anonymous

    Right, the economy is broken because too many people vote. Good one.

  • Anonymous

    Sir; I am a former teacher who taught government and civics.
    I told my students that the right to vote is one of the most precious freedoms
    that they have. When they register isn’t important( I registered them as 17
    year olds),  but voting was extremely important.
    We should worry less about when they vote, but if they vote. If this were just
    a Maine issue, I might agree with you, but since it is a national republican
    agenda, it  is pretty clear that the focus
    is on keeping as many people from the poles as possible, especially those who usually
    vote democratic.

    Nationally, is figured that as many as 5 million voters
    could lose their suffrage by the new laws that republicans have put in place.

     

  • Anonymous

    Pay attention, My comment was about Farmington.

    I will acept the voice of the people unlike the left.

  • Anonymous

    The short answer: http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/voter_info/challenged.htm

    The long answer, from the legislation that voters rejected yesterday, is that provisional ballots would still have been counted if it was shown there was an error in purging a particular voter from the roll: MRSA Title 21-A, Sect. 129(3); Sect. 661(1)(B); Sect. 661(1)(D); Sect. 673(1)(A)(4); Sect. 673(A)(6) (http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/2011/nov11citizensguide.pdf).

  • maine 456

    On local issues yes. That pothole on west street might not seem that bad to someone who has hit it once, but its pretty annoying to the ones who hit it every day commuting.

  • maine 456

    haha watch the mayan calendar mean something, how ironic will your last statement be.  

  • Anonymous

    My statement was even more general and silly than that  . 
    Is that what has your panties in bunch ? 

  • Anonymous

    Parts of me do. 

  • Anonymous

    “Do not confuse the right of free speech with the right of free assembly”

    That’s a pretty common mistake.  I notice a lot of people doing that. Especially as of  late.

  • Anonymous

    Smart people dont vote for the same party for 30 straight years while that party is actively destroying the State they live in. Idiots do that. Welcome to Maine.

  • Anonymous

    I suppose that a arguement could me made to that effect, but I won’t make it.

    The economy is broken because people won’t listen to reason, they only listen to others of a a similar opinion, and the progressives want to keep us busy fighting over side issues.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    In this case it is not part of a national agenda.  This vote, being on the Maine ballot was a Maine issue.  Although the vote is over and the issue is settled doesn’t make it right.  Many other states have a pre-registration voter requirement.  It is not to disenfranchise anyone.  This is what the liberals always say, along with other things such as ”it is too hard on the elderly and poor”. I would like to have this explained.  The reason it is an issue with the right is because the right would love to have people know something about the issues before they vote.  Democrats encourage people to vote being  ignorant of the issues and that is what organizations like Acorn, People for the American Way, the ACLU and all their state chapters, SEIU, NAMBLA, AARP ((which I am a member)..prisoners rights organizations, etc., etc. depend on for ssupport.  You don’t find registered Republicans among any of these groups.  I grew up in a Democrat family, but that when the the Democratic party had a degree of honor.  I think President Kennedy was a great President, but
    the party is now where the American Communist used to be.  People like me just stayed politically where we always have been while the parties moved left.  You can walk down the street in almost any city and ask people who their senator or representative is. Most won’t know. Many don’t know the name of the vp, Sec. of the Treasury, or their own state rep. or senator.  These people are Democrats and they are becoming far too typical. Go into any Republican group meeting and they all know who their elected leaders are.  Maybe you’re thinking “what’s this got to do with voter registration”.  It’s got a lot to do with it.  That’s why people like me are worried about America.  I could go on and on, but I’m a slow typist and I’m missing the news. 

                         I appreciate your comments and I hope you understand my point of view.  I’m not going to proof read this so there may be some typos.

      

  • Anonymous

    You would have to ask the people who belong to OWS why they also believe our elections arent safe and are demanding changes. Considering that normally you and the rest of the marxists here would support anything OWS does I find it very odd that you oppose them on the issue of elections. I mean, nobody on the left came out and said OWS was crazy for wanting to eliminate all debt worldwide, but yet now you think they are crazy over the ballot demand?? I think everyone on the left is pretty much in a perpetual state of confusion over who or what to protest. I just cant wait until the GOP wises up and starts stuffing the ballot boxes now that they know its possible to do so. I fully support doing  anything necessary to defeat the marxists in the DNC, even if it means cheating. Whatever it takes. Isnt that the rule the DNC has operated under for decades?? I think its time for the other side to benefit from that sort of tactic too, not just the democrats. So the moral is, vote early and vote often Mainers. At least those of you who vote GOP. Those who vote DNC hopefully will  have their ballots get “lost” on “accident” like millions of Americans who vote (R) have in the past.

  • Anonymous

    Gee, I bet you’d have felt like your vote was secure had you been required to show ID before voting. Instead, your vote was probably cast by an illegal from Guatemala. Too bad you’ll never know hun? Whats even worse is we have no idea who might have cast a ballot in your name. But yeah, lets repeal those attempts to secure our elections. Nothing to see here..move it along….

  • Anonymous

    Disqus generic email templateThank you for voting.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I know. I am laughing at your “threw out your butt” comment. It sounds sort of funny.

  • Anonymous

    ;)

  • Anonymous

    http://www.mainelegislature.org/LawMakerWeb/rollcall.asp?ID=280041037&chamber=Senate&serialnumber=236

    State of Maine Legislature
    Rollcall Details for Senate Roll-call #236
    LD 1376 (HP 1015)
    Date: June 10, 2011
    Motion: ENACTMENT
    Number of Yeas Required: 16 (simple majority)

    Outcome: PREVAILS

    Yeas (Y): 17
    Nays (N): 14
    Absent (X): 0
    Excused (E): 4

    Member and Party (D or R or U)
    Vote (Yes or No or Excused)

    ALFOND of Cumberland (D)
    No

    BARTLETT of Cumberland (D)
    No

    BRANNIGAN of Cumberland (D)
    No

    COLLINS of York (R)
    Yes

    COURTNEY of York (R)
    Yes

    CRAVEN of Androscoggin (D)
    No

    DIAMOND of Cumberland (D)
    No

    DILL of Cumberland (D)
    No

    FARNHAM of Penobscot (R)
    Yes

    GERZOFSKY of Cumberland (D)
    No

    GOODALL of Sagadahoc (D)
    Excused

    HASTINGS of Oxford (R)
    Yes

    HILL of York (D)
    No

    HOBBINS of York (D)
    No

    JACKSON of Aroostook (D)
    No

    KATZ of Kennebec (R)
    Yes

    LANGLEY of Hancock (R)
    Excused

    MARTIN of Kennebec (R)
    Yes

    MASON of Androscoggin (R)
    Yes

    McCORMICK of Kennebec (R)
    Yes

    PATRICK of Oxford (D)
    No

    PLOWMAN of Penobscot (R)
    Yes

    RAYE of Washington (R)
    Yes

    RECTOR of Knox (R)
    No

    ROSEN of Hancock (R)
    Yes

    SAVIELLO of Franklin (R)
    Excused

    SCHNEIDER of Penobscot (D)
    No

    SHERMAN of Aroostook (R)
    Yes

    SNOWE-MELLO of Androscoggin (R)
    Yes

    SULLIVAN of York (D)
    Excused

    THIBODEAU of Waldo (R)
    Yes

    THOMAS of Somerset (R)
    Yes

    TRAHAN of Lincoln (R)
    Yes

    WHITTEMORE of Somerset (R)
    Yes

    WOODBURY of Cumberland (U)
    No

    #####

    PARTY AFFILIATION

    YES VOTES

    Republicans (17)
    COLLINS of York (R)
    COURTNEY of York (R)
    FARNHAM of Penobscot (R)
    HASTINGS of Oxford (R)
    KATZ of Kennebec (R)
    MARTIN of Kennebec (R)
    MASON of Androscoggin (R)
    McCORMICK of Kennebec (R)
    PLOWMAN of Penobscot (R)
    RAYE of Washington (R)
    ROSEN of Hancock (R)
    SHERMAN of Aroostook (R)
    SNOWE-MELLO of Androscoggin (R)
    THIBODEAU of Waldo (R)
    THOMAS of Somerset (R)
    TRAHAN of Lincoln (R)
    WHITTEMORE of Somerset (R)

    Democrats (0)

    Unenrolled (0)

    #####

    NO VOTES (14)

    Democrats (12)
    ALFOND of Cumberland (D)
    BARTLETT of Cumberland (D)
    BRANNIGAN of Cumberland (D)
    CRAVEN of Androscoggin (D)
    DIAMOND of Cumberland (D)
    DILL of Cumberland (D)
    GERZOFSKY of Cumberland (D)
    HILL of York (D)
    HOBBINS of York (D)
    JACKSON of Aroostook (D)
    PATRICK of Oxford (D)
    SCHNEIDER of Penobscot (D)

    Republicans (1)
    RECTOR of Knox (R)

    Unenrolled (1)
    WOODBURY of Cumberland

    #####

    EXCUSED VOTES (4)

    Republicans (2)
    LANGLEY of Hancock (R)
    SAVIELLO of Franklin (R)

    Democrats (2)
    GOODALL of Sagadahoc (D)
    SULLIVAN of York (D)

  • Anonymous

    Well said!

  • Anonymous

    You’re wrong. 38.33% voted for Governor LePage. 79.88% threw you out. Dippy Mitchell only had 19.12% of the vote. 79.88% voted against the liberals and their brainwashed agenda.

  • Anonymous

    “ConvivialVisits” quotes him as saying “It’s not that bad a restriction on voting“?   That is not what he said.  No one argued for a “not so bad restriction on voting” or any other degree of “badness.”  “ConvivialVisits” made up the quote — just as those who are misrepresenting a requirement to be registered for at least two days to mean “denying the right to vote” are making things up, obviously for some other purpose.  None of these accusations as stated make any sense.  

    The question is, what is the ulterior purpose of this hysterical campaign smearing people in order to create chaos and unnecessary expense for the taxpayers over a matter of effective voting procedure?  Why would anyone go berserk over a simple requirement that voters be registered two days before an election, and why make such an expensive stink and smear campaign over it?  What else about their motives aren’t they telling the voters?

  • Anonymous

    You must have been relieved, but the loss of your registration is far more serious than a requirement to be registered  by a few days in advance of voting, and is not a principled argument against the requirement.  Once you are registered you are supposed to be registered, and a denial of your right to vote then is in a fact serious violation of civil rights.  Even a bungling bureaucracy would be no excuse.  What happened to your registration?  Did you have any kind of a receipt?

  • Anonymous

    The organized radical left is notorious for promoting and engaging in vote fraud all over the country.  People have every right to be concerned about it, whatever the degree it has been pulled off in Maine, and that calls for safeguards in a presently vulnerable system. 

    If people think their actual voting rights are being tampered with they understandably will resist, but despite all the hysterical accusations by agitators influencing people, that is clearly not what this was in fact about — a requirement to be registered by two days before an election is not a denial of the right to vote, and neither is the requirement to be registered at all or to prove that you are.

  • Anonymous

    No, those are not the only possibilities, and overlook the legitimate purpose of preventing fraud in a vulnerable system.

  • Anonymous

    Current law allows college students to vote as residents where they are living to go school, but not somewhere else at the same time.  Where they should be voting is a question not settled by where they are paying “sales taxes” and nothing else.  The majority have less interest in local affairs than in various immature ideologies, and frequently are more out to raise other people’s taxes, redistribute their assets and impose radical viro social controls on people, not the “sales taxes” they have to pay.  Such student activists are not motivated by anything resembling the principles of the Boston Tea Party and are a threat to property-owning, tax-paying adults who have every right to object to the artificial political concentration attacking them.  But that is not what the registration requirement was about.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think he meant “schizophrenic” in the clinical sense.  He is talking about a contradiction he sees between what people want to protect and what they voted for, and which they don’t realize.

  • Anonymous

    Then why weren’t you registered to vote long ago?  How is this referendum result “keeping it easy for you” to do something you haven’t been doing because you didn’t register?  Or, do you think the registration requirement meant that you had to register before every election?

  • Anonymous

    There was no restriction on voting rights.  The “fight”, as it has been disingenuously presented, is tilting at windmills.  Some doesn’t want the integrity of voting preserved.

  • Anonymous

    The requirement not prevent college students from voting where they reside at school and did not prevent eligible voters from voting for presidents or anything else.  The disingenuous campaign is designed to create a false image that that “Republicans” are trying to disenfranchise “eligible voters” and to head off future efforts to stop vote fraud.

  • pbmann

    Sorry, I was using sarcasm  :)

  • Anonymous

    Since the requirement to register at least two days before voting if you are not already registered obviously does not violate anyone’s “right to vote”, and since protecting the integrity of voting by blocking the fraudulent exploitation of vulnerabilities in voter registration protects the meaning of every legitimate vote, one must look  beyond the hysteria for the meaning of this campaign.   “Do not bother to examine a folly, only ask yourself what it accomplishes”.  

    This disingenuous campaign is being used to create a false public image through a smear campaign that “Republicans” are trying to “disenfranchise eligible voters”, to create a false public image that “the people” have “repudiated” Republican principles at the polls, and to head off future efforts to stop vote fraud.  What kind of political goals and tactics do you think stand to benefit from that?  

    Notice that the radical progressive left has in fact been repudiated nationally — including their defeat in Maine and in Congress in the last election — and that they are misrepresenting a secondary procedural matter of voter registration requirements while not discussing the reasons why the left has been repudiated nationally.  They can’t defend their destructive, statist political goals that have been rejected across the country; they are trying to reverse cause and effect by wrapping themselves in a single, relatively minor referendum victory — any victory — to claim that their basic leftist principles are now popular and that the left should be returned to power in Maine.

  • pbmann

    People like you and all the fascists who voted against the veto….

    See, I can call someone whom I don’t know and group all people who think differently then me a name but I would not do that because I believe that people can have different ideas on what makes America great and what could make it even greater.  That is why we have ellections and why it is important that as many Americans vote as possible.  You on the other hand seem to think that anyone who disagrees with you is a Marxist and that there is nothing wrong with election fraud being practiced mostly by Republicans the past 30 years becasue the end justifies the means.

    Thinking like that is wrong and if not stopped will be the end of the America I love and was willing to defend with my life if necessary when I enlisted in the USMC.

  • pbmann

    Are you forgetting the repudiation of the Right Wing Agenda yesterday in OH, MS and AZ  as wel as ME yesterday?

    The massive defeat of the attack on Workers Rights in OH that got repealed easily despite all the efforts of Republican nominees to support Gov. Kacich’s position?

    The anti-abortion messure that lose in MS because it was so restrictive it probably would have outlawed contraception.  In MS, just about the reddest state in the Union?

    The recall of the creator of AZ illegal immigration law?  A recall that was started by a fellow Republican.

    The successful recall of the WI representatives despite massive spending by outside interest supporting those representatives this summer and the recall of a Republican Representative in MI yesterday.

    And these are just the high profile ones.

  • pbmann

    Voting is never a waste

  • Anonymous

    No, criminals obtain and use guns despite the laws and know how to get them secretly and sneak them into where they can use them.  Voter fraud requires getting around the requirement to register and showing up at the voting booths or submitting an absentee ballot; it can’t be done somewhere else in the dead of night with no one around to stop it.  But there are different ways of committing fraud, no law can guarantee the complete elimination of crime in all forms, and that is not an excuse for anarchy.  There is nothing unconstitutional in requiring registration for voting; voting procedures are the means of voting not its denial.

  • Anonymous

    You have to have a deed to your property to prove that you own it and what it is.

  • Anonymous

    It was a stream of meaningless, semi-poetic floating abstractions not tied to reality.  There was nothing “profound” about it.  Obviously the requirement to register to vote or to be registered at least two days before is not a denial of anyone’s Constitutional rights.  The procedures by which our Constitutional rights are guaranteed are codified as civil rights.

  • Anonymous

    No one had lost his right to vote.

  • Anonymous

    A lot people were mislead into thinking they were.  Those who ran the campaign knew better but were after something else they aren’t talking about.

  • Anonymous

    The campaign that waxed about the “right to vote” engaged in misdirection about a registration requirement that had nothing to do with denying anyone a “right to vote”.  Such demagoguery is not the “high road”.

  • Anonymous

    ummm. i don’t think i got a receipt as it doesn’t cost money.  and its not indicated on my license.

    while bumbling bureaucracy may not be the principal argument for same day voter registration, its does exist and I am relieved, for my sake, that same day registration was permitted.

  • Anonymous

    ewv, you are a thoughtful American, for sure.  this is why i voted yes:

    Some view America’s 236 year history as an expansion of suffrage.  From our Declaration, to the 26th Amendment, we have a history of expanding voter right

    When I signed the petition a few months ago, I said, “I disagree with the two day requirement, but I can think of more productive things for my party to being doing this year”  .

    But the poll question was a straight up Yes or No.  Given our glorious history of expanding suffrage, I voted Yes.

  • Anonymous

    i just don’t think it is fair to pick on college students when there are other sets of people who live and move about on a temporary basis.  Mostly professionals with unique skill sets, they will work on assignment, sometimes for a year or two.

  • http://www.facebook.com/antonio.giarratano Antonio Giarratano

    And where exactly did I say that? No where. Try reading comments before you try and bash them with your mindless propaganda. I was not fighting for either side, merely pointing out that in a a state with such a high unemployment rate, high poverty level, and high prices, the money and effort wasted on something so iniquitous is insane.

    Another problem with voters of any type, age, party, group, you do not think about the issues before you comment on them. It is the responsibility of every voter to UNDERSTAND the issues they are voting for.

  • Anonymous

    No college students have been shown to have double-voted. 
    You are essentially saying that the right to vote should be limited to those who agree with you.  This is sad.  King George would have agreed with you.  Sam Adams and Thomas Paine would not. 
    The Declaration says government derives its authority from the consent of the governed, not the consent of some of the governed.  You would apparently send a draftee off to fight a war but deny him the right to vote if he didn’t own real estate. 

  • Anonymous

    The deed is issued by the seller (typically a private party), not the government.  The right to buy property requires no act of registration and one need never record the deed.  If one does record, it he has decreased the possibility that some one else might claim it, as the registered deed is notice to the world.  

  • Anonymous

    Had I moved on Tuesday,  November 1, 2011 and had not time to register by Friday, November 4, 2011, I could not have voted on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 had the law been in effect.  How is that not a limitation on the right to vote?  I do sense demagoguery in  the nonsense television ad about repealing a “voting ethics” law or the newspaper ads linking Question One to gay rights.  Those two ploys were the work of opponents of Question One.

  • Regular Joe

    Mmmm…Sam Adams……..

  • Anonymous

    I understand the issues just fine. Your argument is that people who don’t register to vote before election day are lazy. That to me is agreeing that this is a restriction on voting rights, but you’re fine with that because the people it inconveniences are lazy in your opinion.

    But yes, there are far better issues to tackle. Too bad Maine Republicans chose to enact that unnecessary law, requiring a citizen veto in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    Oh my, you got me. I spelled out the attitude he was conveying, and you mistook it for a direct quote!

    The horror.

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