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Secretary of State finds no student voter fraud but still pledges to improve system

Charles Summers
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Charles Summers
Posted Sept. 21, 2011, at 3:06 p.m.
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AUGUSTA, Maine — After a two-month investigation into possible voter fraud by college students and noncitizens, Maine Secretary of State Charlie Summers said Wednesday his evidence showed that none of the students committed fraud and only one noncitizen voted in Maine.

Nevertheless, Summers said his investigation confirmed his belief that Maine’s election system is “fragile and vulnerable,” and he vowed to submit legislation in January to fix some of the problems.

“I feel very strongly based on what I’ve laid out here today that we have a situation in the state of Maine that if we don’t try to modernize our election practices and procedures eventually it will lead us down the road where something breaks down,” Summers said Wednesday during a question-and-answer session with reporters. “If that were to happen and I did not try to make good on that you’d be asking, ‘Why didn’t you do something about it?’”

He said he was especially concerned about the workload of municipal clerks on Election Day and the potential for error.

The secretary’s investigation began in late July after Summers was challenged by Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster to look into the voting habits of 206 out-of-state students attending public Maine universities. Webster wanted to know whether those students had established residency in Maine or whether they voted twice — in Maine and in their home state.

Two days after Webster submitted his list to Summers, the secretary launched a broader investigation of possible voter fraud that dates back several years and deals with noncitizens registering to vote.

Summers addressed both students and noncitizens on Wednesday.

One of his findings was that 77 students were registered in Maine and in another state between 2008 and 2010.

Asked whether that constituted fraud, Summers replied: “It is fraud if they intentionally did that. But it’s very difficult to prove [intent].” Summers said he doesn’t intend to further investigate their intentions.

Another finding revealed that five students voted in two different places in the same calendar year — once in primary and again in the general election — but none voted twice in the same election.

Asked whether voting twice in the same year in two separate states constituted fraud, Summers answered: “Technically, it’s not a violation of the law. I’m not sure exactly how patriotic it is.”

Although no students were targeted for voter fraud, they still are under scrutiny. Summers said he has sent letters to dozens of students notifying them that his investigation is complete but he also warned that if they intend to remain residents of Maine, they will need to register their car in the state.

As for noncitizens successfully registering to vote, Summers identified one case from 2002 in which an El Salvadoran voted in Portland even though he was not a U.S. citizen. That person since has been deported, Summers said.

Asked whether one confirmed case of voter fraud was enough to consider the system broken, Summer replied that if one voter is disenfranchised, that’s too many.

The secretary said his findings further support his belief that Mainers should not be allowed to register on Election Day, a provision of state law that was eliminated earlier this year but faces a people’s veto in November.

David Farmer with Protect Maine Votes, the coalition that is aiming to overturn that law, said Summers is playing politics by tying voter fraud to same-day registration.

He said the biggest take-away from Wednesday’s press conference was that Summers “demonstrated that Charlie Webster’s allegations against those 206 students were false, outrageous and perhaps were defamatory.

“They committed no crime yet they were presented as if they had and that’s really inexcusable and it shows a pattern of trying to scare students into not voting.”

Farmer and others were particularly disturbed by the letters sent by Summers to college students regarding car registrations.

“I’m a resident of this state, my registration runs out at the end of the month. Am I going to get a letter from Secretary Summers asking if I intend to vote?” he said.

“By sending a letter to the students questioning their vehicle registration or status of their driver’s licenses, Secretary Summers appears to be trying to scare students into not voting. It’s unconscionable and an abuse of his authority,” he said.

Reached by telephone late Wednesday, Webster said he hadn’t seen the full results of the investigation but he was happy that he has helped push the conversation on improving the integrity of system.

“I knew there would be a number of people on this list who registered to vote and never fulfilled the other requirements of law,” he said. “I feel that many of these students were exploited by whatever group got them there; it could be the Republicans. But my hope is that people better understand what the law requires.”

Summers acknowledged that the sample size of his investigation was small and also said existing law hampered his investigation because municipal clerks are not required to keep data that is more than 3 years old.

That’s something he hopes to change.

Municipal clerks have said that same-day registration is less of a problem than ensuring there is enough time to process absentee ballots, which more and more Mainers are casting. The law that passed last June included a provision to ease that burden on clerks and the people’s veto effort is not seeking to overturn that portion.

Summers said part of his proposed legislation will include better definitions of residency.

In the past, courts have ruled that students can consider a college dormitory their primary residence, which would allow them to vote in that community even if they are not full-time Maine residents.

Asked whether he supported any possible changes to law, Farmer responded: “As soon as [Summers] provides evidence of a problem, we can talk about solutions.”

Although he talked most about students on Wednesday, Summers also addressed questions about the investigation into noncitizens. As part of that investigation, there were allegations that a Bureau of Motor Vehicles employee was asked by a superior to shred documents, a claim disputed by former Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap.

Summers said that part of the investigation is still in the attorney general’s hands.

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  • Anonymous

    Good, now will Chuckie Webster go away……UGH!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=646155700 Jennifer F. Murphy

    “..he vowed to submit legislation next session to fix longstanding problems.”

    Translation: He vowed to figure out another way to suppress votes.

    And, he couldn’t have told us this yesterday???

  • Anonymous

    I applaud the investigation into possible fraud, because if actual fraud had been occurring that should be stopped. The results are in, and it’s clear that same day voter registration was not being exploited for voter fraud.

    Now it’s time to uphold same-day voter registration at the polls in November. Why? Because there is clear evidence that same day voter registration increases turnout, and increases citizen participation in elections.

    In comparison, there is no evidence that eliminating same-day voter registration will reduce even the potential for voter fraud.

    Vote Yes on Question 1 in November!

  • Anonymous

    Color me not surprised.  Now, someone show me how eliminating same-day voter registration will prevent all this (non-)fraud from happening.

  • Anonymous

    Did they ever find out who hacked the system from the magic city town office ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The issue of “voter fraud” comes out of the ALEC playbook for conservatives.  ALEC is an out-of-state interest group with ties, including money, to the Koch brothers.  “Voter fraud” is one of the issues ALEC is pushing all over the country in every state they can get to.  Voting fraudulently is already against the law, so if someone was suspected of doing that, the state has the power to investigate and prosecute.  This is a blatant attempt to interfere with voters who are thought to tend to vote for Democrats. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The issue of “voter fraud” comes out of the ALEC playbook for conservatives.  ALEC is an out-of-state interest group with ties, including money, to the Koch brothers.  “Voter fraud” is one of the issues ALEC is pushing all over the country in every state they can get to.  Voting fraudulently is already against the law, so if someone was suspected of doing that, the state has the power to investigate and prosecute.  This is a blatant attempt to interfere with voters who are thought to tend to vote for Democrats. 

  • Anonymous

    But… but… GOP Chair Charlie Webster said there was fraud- this means he made it up and lied! Does this mean that we will see Maine Republicans now finally stand up and tell him to resign?

  • Anonymous

    But… but… GOP Chair Charlie Webster said there was fraud- this means he made it up and lied! Does this mean that we will see Maine Republicans now finally stand up and tell him to resign?

  • Anonymous

    But… but… GOP Chair Charlie Webster said there was fraud- this means he made it up and lied! Does this mean that we will see Maine Republicans now finally stand up and tell him to resign?

  • Anonymous

    What a joke.

  • Anonymous

    What a joke.

  • Anonymous

    What a joke.

  • Anonymous

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!  After an extensive investigation conducted by Maine Secretary of State Charles Summers, at goodness knows what cost to the Maine taxpayer, he reveals that there was no voter fraud found. Apparently , according to Secretary of State Summers the only illegal voter he was able to turn up after his extensive investigation occurred in 2002 and that person has since been deported. I bet all Mainers will sleep much better tonight knowing that in 9 years there has only been, one proven case of a person voting illegally in the State of Maine.  Secretary of State Summers, “Crazy Charlie” Webster the Chairman of the Maine Republican Party, Doug Damon as well as numerous other radical right tea party endorsed republicans have been trying for months now to scare Maine voters into thinking that the integrity of the Maine voting system is flawed and has been subject to “voter fraud”. These are also the same folks who are oh so very very very much concerned with the almighty tax dollar and are also very good at talking about waste in government. What Secretary Summers investigation has proven is that there is indeed waste in Maine Government and that it is him and the rest of the radical right tea party clowns who are doing the wasting on foolishness like this hopefully concluded witch hunt.  

  • Anonymous

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!  After an extensive investigation conducted by Maine Secretary of State Charles Summers, at goodness knows what cost to the Maine taxpayer, he reveals that there was no voter fraud found. Apparently , according to Secretary of State Summers the only illegal voter he was able to turn up after his extensive investigation occurred in 2002 and that person has since been deported. I bet all Mainers will sleep much better tonight knowing that in 9 years there has only been, one proven case of a person voting illegally in the State of Maine.  Secretary of State Summers, “Crazy Charlie” Webster the Chairman of the Maine Republican Party, Doug Damon as well as numerous other radical right tea party endorsed republicans have been trying for months now to scare Maine voters into thinking that the integrity of the Maine voting system is flawed and has been subject to “voter fraud”. These are also the same folks who are oh so very very very much concerned with the almighty tax dollar and are also very good at talking about waste in government. What Secretary Summers investigation has proven is that there is indeed waste in Maine Government and that it is him and the rest of the radical right tea party clowns who are doing the wasting on foolishness like this hopefully concluded witch hunt.  

  • Anonymous

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!  After an extensive investigation conducted by Maine Secretary of State Charles Summers, at goodness knows what cost to the Maine taxpayer, he reveals that there was no voter fraud found. Apparently , according to Secretary of State Summers the only illegal voter he was able to turn up after his extensive investigation occurred in 2002 and that person has since been deported. I bet all Mainers will sleep much better tonight knowing that in 9 years there has only been, one proven case of a person voting illegally in the State of Maine.  Secretary of State Summers, “Crazy Charlie” Webster the Chairman of the Maine Republican Party, Doug Damon as well as numerous other radical right tea party endorsed republicans have been trying for months now to scare Maine voters into thinking that the integrity of the Maine voting system is flawed and has been subject to “voter fraud”. These are also the same folks who are oh so very very very much concerned with the almighty tax dollar and are also very good at talking about waste in government. What Secretary Summers investigation has proven is that there is indeed waste in Maine Government and that it is him and the rest of the radical right tea party clowns who are doing the wasting on foolishness like this hopefully concluded witch hunt.  

  • Anonymous

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!  After an extensive investigation conducted by Maine Secretary of State Charles Summers, at goodness knows what cost to the Maine taxpayer, he reveals that there was no voter fraud found. Apparently , according to Secretary of State Summers the only illegal voter he was able to turn up after his extensive investigation occurred in 2002 and that person has since been deported. I bet all Mainers will sleep much better tonight knowing that in 9 years there has only been, one proven case of a person voting illegally in the State of Maine.  Secretary of State Summers, “Crazy Charlie” Webster the Chairman of the Maine Republican Party, Doug Damon as well as numerous other radical right tea party endorsed republicans have been trying for months now to scare Maine voters into thinking that the integrity of the Maine voting system is flawed and has been subject to “voter fraud”. These are also the same folks who are oh so very very very much concerned with the almighty tax dollar and are also very good at talking about waste in government. What Secretary Summers investigation has proven is that there is indeed waste in Maine Government and that it is him and the rest of the radical right tea party clowns who are doing the wasting on foolishness like this hopefully concluded witch hunt.  

  • Anonymous

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!  After an extensive investigation conducted by Maine Secretary of State Charles Summers, at goodness knows what cost to the Maine taxpayer, he reveals that there was no voter fraud found. Apparently , according to Secretary of State Summers the only illegal voter he was able to turn up after his extensive investigation occurred in 2002 and that person has since been deported. I bet all Mainers will sleep much better tonight knowing that in 9 years there has only been, one proven case of a person voting illegally in the State of Maine.  Secretary of State Summers, “Crazy Charlie” Webster the Chairman of the Maine Republican Party, Doug Damon as well as numerous other radical right tea party endorsed republicans have been trying for months now to scare Maine voters into thinking that the integrity of the Maine voting system is flawed and has been subject to “voter fraud”. These are also the same folks who are oh so very very very much concerned with the almighty tax dollar and are also very good at talking about waste in government. What Secretary Summers investigation has proven is that there is indeed waste in Maine Government and that it is him and the rest of the radical right tea party clowns who are doing the wasting on foolishness like this hopefully concluded witch hunt.  

  • Anonymous

    proved it can and has happened time to fix the system .No same day registration in maine.Would like to see I.D at the voting booth also.

  • Anonymous

    proved it can and has happened time to fix the system .No same day registration in maine.Would like to see I.D at the voting booth also.

  • Anonymous

    So 1 case of fraud in 200 demonstrates “fragile and vulnerable”?  Who is this guy kidding??  If anything it shows that these people are full of it!  I’m beginning to think that they won’t be happy until we return to only white male property owners having the right to vote!

  • Anonymous

    So 1 case of fraud in 200 demonstrates “fragile and vulnerable”?  Who is this guy kidding??  If anything it shows that these people are full of it!  I’m beginning to think that they won’t be happy until we return to only white male property owners having the right to vote!

  • Anonymous

    So 1 case of fraud in 200 demonstrates “fragile and vulnerable”?  Who is this guy kidding??  If anything it shows that these people are full of it!  I’m beginning to think that they won’t be happy until we return to only white male property owners having the right to vote!

  • Anonymous

    So 1 case of fraud in 200 demonstrates “fragile and vulnerable”?  Who is this guy kidding??  If anything it shows that these people are full of it!  I’m beginning to think that they won’t be happy until we return to only white male property owners having the right to vote!

  • Anonymous

    So 1 case of fraud in 200 demonstrates “fragile and vulnerable”?  Who is this guy kidding??  If anything it shows that these people are full of it!  I’m beginning to think that they won’t be happy until we return to only white male property owners having the right to vote!

  • Anonymous

    it did ,and can happen that is not  fine with me, fix the system I.D and no same day.

  • Anonymous

    it did ,and can happen that is not  fine with me, fix the system I.D and no same day.

  • Anonymous

    it did ,and can happen that is not  fine with me, fix the system I.D and no same day.

  • Anonymous

    it did ,and can happen that is not  fine with me, fix the system I.D and no same day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Perhaps we should move to a retinal scan system. I’m sure you’re right on board with this, eh?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Perhaps we should move to a retinal scan system. I’m sure you’re right on board with this, eh?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Perhaps we should move to a retinal scan system. I’m sure you’re right on board with this, eh?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Perhaps we should move to a retinal scan system. I’m sure you’re right on board with this, eh?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Perhaps we should move to a retinal scan system. I’m sure you’re right on board with this, eh?

  • 525_44

    Summers’ words on Wednesday proved that allegations made by Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster, who called for the investigation into the students, “were false outrageous and, perhaps, defamatory.”
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    I hope Charlie has a big appetite, he has a lot of crow to eat.

  • 525_44

    Summers’ words on Wednesday proved that allegations made by Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster, who called for the investigation into the students, “were false outrageous and, perhaps, defamatory.”
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    I hope Charlie has a big appetite, he has a lot of crow to eat.

  • 525_44

    Summers’ words on Wednesday proved that allegations made by Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster, who called for the investigation into the students, “were false outrageous and, perhaps, defamatory.”
    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -
    I hope Charlie has a big appetite, he has a lot of crow to eat.

  • 525_44

    Summers’ words on Wednesday proved that allegations made by Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster, who called for the investigation into the students, “were false outrageous and, perhaps, defamatory.”
    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -
    I hope Charlie has a big appetite, he has a lot of crow to eat.

  • 525_44

    Summers’ words on Wednesday proved that allegations made by Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster, who called for the investigation into the students, “were false outrageous and, perhaps, defamatory.”
    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -
    I hope Charlie has a big appetite, he has a lot of crow to eat.

  • Anonymous

    So make it harder to vote because there was no problems found? Funny that republicans yell there rights are being taking away and they want to make one of the most important rights harder to do.

  • Anonymous

    So make it harder to vote because there was no problems found? Funny that republicans yell there rights are being taking away and they want to make one of the most important rights harder to do.

  • Anonymous

    So make it harder to vote because there was no problems found? Funny that republicans yell there rights are being taking away and they want to make one of the most important rights harder to do.

  • Anonymous

    So make it harder to vote because there was no problems found? Funny that republicans yell there rights are being taking away and they want to make one of the most important rights harder to do.

  • Anonymous

    So make it harder to vote because there was no problems found? Funny that republicans yell there rights are being taking away and they want to make one of the most important rights harder to do.

  • Anonymous

    Was the Secretary of State voted into office or appointed?

  • Anonymous

    Was the Secretary of State voted into office or appointed?

  • Anonymous

    Was the Secretary of State voted into office or appointed?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    And same-day voter registration was a way to address that the simple fact of requiring people to register to vote at all was an attempt by conservatives to suppress the votes of poor people, anyway.

    If Republicans truly cared about the election process they would be advocating for a federal central voter registry. But they don’t, it’s still about suppressing the vote of people they don’t like and making it hard on people who work two or three jobs to access the ballot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    And same-day voter registration was a way to address that the simple fact of requiring people to register to vote at all was an attempt by conservatives to suppress the votes of poor people, anyway.

    If Republicans truly cared about the election process they would be advocating for a federal central voter registry. But they don’t, it’s still about suppressing the vote of people they don’t like and making it hard on people who work two or three jobs to access the ballot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    And same-day voter registration was a way to address that the simple fact of requiring people to register to vote at all was an attempt by conservatives to suppress the votes of poor people, anyway.

    If Republicans truly cared about the election process they would be advocating for a federal central voter registry. But they don’t, it’s still about suppressing the vote of people they don’t like and making it hard on people who work two or three jobs to access the ballot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    And same-day voter registration was a way to address that the simple fact of requiring people to register to vote at all was an attempt by conservatives to suppress the votes of poor people, anyway.

    If Republicans truly cared about the election process they would be advocating for a federal central voter registry. But they don’t, it’s still about suppressing the vote of people they don’t like and making it hard on people who work two or three jobs to access the ballot.

  • Anonymous

    I take voting very serious no joking matter.If it happened once then that is twice to many how many were swept under the rug or not reported.Fix the system Everything else in life we have to show i.d time to prove safe   voting .

  • Anonymous

    I take voting very serious no joking matter.If it happened once then that is twice to many how many were swept under the rug or not reported.Fix the system Everything else in life we have to show i.d time to prove safe   voting .

  • Anonymous

    I take voting very serious no joking matter.If it happened once then that is twice to many how many were swept under the rug or not reported.Fix the system Everything else in life we have to show i.d time to prove safe   voting .

  • Anonymous

    I take voting very serious no joking matter.If it happened once then that is twice to many how many were swept under the rug or not reported.Fix the system Everything else in life we have to show i.d time to prove safe   voting .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Elected by the legislature, the same as all the constitutional officers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Elected by the legislature, the same as all the constitutional officers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Elected by the legislature, the same as all the constitutional officers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Elected by the legislature, the same as all the constitutional officers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Elected by the legislature, the same as all the constitutional officers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    You got it!

    The New Law Is Voter Fraud!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    You got it!

    The New Law Is Voter Fraud!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    You got it!

    The New Law Is Voter Fraud!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt
  • Anonymous

    Voted in by the legislature per the state constitution, Article V.

  • Anonymous

    Voted in by the legislature per the state constitution, Article V.

  • Anonymous

    Voted in by the legislature per the state constitution, Article V.

  • Anonymous

    Voted in by the legislature per the state constitution, Article V.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    A meteor could land on a ballot box on Election Day!

    Lets fix that!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    A meteor could land on a ballot box on Election Day!

    Lets fix that!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    A meteor could land on a ballot box on Election Day!

    Lets fix that!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    A meteor could land on a ballot box on Election Day!

    Lets fix that!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    A meteor could land on a ballot box on Election Day!

    Lets fix that!

  • Anonymous

    Did he investigate Webster and the college republicans surpressing the vote by signing out the vans at UMF on election day?

  • Anonymous

    Did he investigate Webster and the college republicans surpressing the vote by signing out the vans at UMF on election day?

  • Anonymous

    Did he investigate Webster and the college republicans surpressing the vote by signing out the vans at UMF on election day?

  • Anonymous

    Did he investigate Webster and the college republicans surpressing the vote by signing out the vans at UMF on election day?

  • Anonymous

    Did he investigate Webster and the college republicans surpressing the vote by signing out the vans at UMF on election day?

  • Anonymous

    Show me how eliminating same day registration would prevent fraud.  Show me how the state can afford to give away FREE ID’s in order to make such a law constitutional since the US Supreme Court has ruled that requiring an ID you have to pay for in order to vote is an illegal Pole Tax.

  • Anonymous

    Show me how eliminating same day registration would prevent fraud.  Show me how the state can afford to give away FREE ID’s in order to make such a law constitutional since the US Supreme Court has ruled that requiring an ID you have to pay for in order to vote is an illegal Pole Tax.

  • Anonymous

    Show me how eliminating same day registration would prevent fraud.  Show me how the state can afford to give away FREE ID’s in order to make such a law constitutional since the US Supreme Court has ruled that requiring an ID you have to pay for in order to vote is an illegal Pole Tax.

  • Anonymous

    Show me how eliminating same day registration would prevent fraud.  Show me how the state can afford to give away FREE ID’s in order to make such a law constitutional since the US Supreme Court has ruled that requiring an ID you have to pay for in order to vote is an illegal Pole Tax.

  • Anonymous

    Show me how eliminating same day registration would prevent fraud.  Show me how the state can afford to give away FREE ID’s in order to make such a law constitutional since the US Supreme Court has ruled that requiring an ID you have to pay for in order to vote is an illegal Pole Tax.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    He finds no evidence of voter fraud so this indicates the system is vunerable??? What a line. this proves the Republicans including the Secretary of State of spreading rumors and lies to prevent real voters from voting. It is well known that the more people who vote, the more the Republicans lose. Make sure you vote to stop the Republicans from trying to steal elections by reversing the votor registration restricion law. There appears to be fraud around, but it isn’t the voters.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    He finds no evidence of voter fraud so this indicates the system is vunerable??? What a line. this proves the Republicans including the Secretary of State of spreading rumors and lies to prevent real voters from voting. It is well known that the more people who vote, the more the Republicans lose. Make sure you vote to stop the Republicans from trying to steal elections by reversing the votor registration restricion law. There appears to be fraud around, but it isn’t the voters.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    He finds no evidence of voter fraud so this indicates the system is vunerable??? What a line. this proves the Republicans including the Secretary of State of spreading rumors and lies to prevent real voters from voting. It is well known that the more people who vote, the more the Republicans lose. Make sure you vote to stop the Republicans from trying to steal elections by reversing the votor registration restricion law. There appears to be fraud around, but it isn’t the voters.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    He finds no evidence of voter fraud so this indicates the system is vunerable??? What a line. this proves the Republicans including the Secretary of State of spreading rumors and lies to prevent real voters from voting. It is well known that the more people who vote, the more the Republicans lose. Make sure you vote to stop the Republicans from trying to steal elections by reversing the votor registration restricion law. There appears to be fraud around, but it isn’t the voters.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    He finds no evidence of voter fraud so this indicates the system is vunerable??? What a line. this proves the Republicans including the Secretary of State of spreading rumors and lies to prevent real voters from voting. It is well known that the more people who vote, the more the Republicans lose. Make sure you vote to stop the Republicans from trying to steal elections by reversing the votor registration restricion law. There appears to be fraud around, but it isn’t the voters.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster needs to make it a lot simpler.  He should just come right out and declare that voting for anybody other than Republicans constitutes voter fraud and introduce legislation to make all other political parties illegal.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster needs to make it a lot simpler.  He should just come right out and declare that voting for anybody other than Republicans constitutes voter fraud and introduce legislation to make all other political parties illegal.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster needs to make it a lot simpler.  He should just come right out and declare that voting for anybody other than Republicans constitutes voter fraud and introduce legislation to make all other political parties illegal.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster needs to make it a lot simpler.  He should just come right out and declare that voting for anybody other than Republicans constitutes voter fraud and introduce legislation to make all other political parties illegal.

  • Anonymous

    I think this is outrageous and there may even be a criminal element to this.  Based upon the fraudulent report of a crime, the State wasted our time and our resources investigating some thing does not exist.  I’d now like to see the Attorney General investigate the allegations and the potential for charges related to false reporting by Charlie Webster.  How many more money wasters like this is Penguin going to involve his administration in?

  • Anonymous

    I think this is outrageous and there may even be a criminal element to this.  Based upon the fraudulent report of a crime, the State wasted our time and our resources investigating some thing does not exist.  I’d now like to see the Attorney General investigate the allegations and the potential for charges related to false reporting by Charlie Webster.  How many more money wasters like this is Penguin going to involve his administration in?

  • Anonymous

    I think this is outrageous and there may even be a criminal element to this.  Based upon the fraudulent report of a crime, the State wasted our time and our resources investigating some thing does not exist.  I’d now like to see the Attorney General investigate the allegations and the potential for charges related to false reporting by Charlie Webster.  How many more money wasters like this is Penguin going to involve his administration in?

  • Anonymous

    And if they can’t limit liberal participation raise the battle cry,  ”Let’s redistrict!”

  • Anonymous

    And if they can’t limit liberal participation raise the battle cry,  ”Let’s redistrict!”

  • Anonymous

    And if they can’t limit liberal participation raise the battle cry,  ”Let’s redistrict!”

  • Anonymous

    And if they can’t limit liberal participation raise the battle cry,  ”Let’s redistrict!”

  • Anonymous

    And if they can’t limit liberal participation raise the battle cry,  ”Let’s redistrict!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    I AM SHOCKED!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    I AM SHOCKED!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    I AM SHOCKED!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    I AM SHOCKED!

  • Anonymous

    Glad some still take voting serious.Go lepage fix augusta

  • Anonymous

    Glad some still take voting serious.Go lepage fix augusta

  • Anonymous

    Glad some still take voting serious.Go lepage fix augusta

  • Anonymous

    Glad some still take voting serious.Go lepage fix augusta

  • Anonymous

    Glad some still take voting serious.Go lepage fix augusta

  • Anonymous

    Maybe those students should file suite against Mr. Webster for false accusation?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe those students should file suite against Mr. Webster for false accusation?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe those students should file suite against Mr. Webster for false accusation?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe those students should file suite against Mr. Webster for false accusation?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe those students should file suite against Mr. Webster for false accusation?

  • Anonymous

    If a full scale investigation is required to find voter fraud, it’s no wonder that it is so rarely prosecuted.  But all the liberals’ votes come from out of state anyway, so they might as well start them in college.

  • Anonymous

    If a full scale investigation is required to find voter fraud, it’s no wonder that it is so rarely prosecuted.  But all the liberals’ votes come from out of state anyway, so they might as well start them in college.

  • Anonymous

    If a full scale investigation is required to find voter fraud, it’s no wonder that it is so rarely prosecuted.  But all the liberals’ votes come from out of state anyway, so they might as well start them in college.

  • Anonymous

    If a full scale investigation is required to find voter fraud, it’s no wonder that it is so rarely prosecuted.  But all the liberals’ votes come from out of state anyway, so they might as well start them in college.

  • Anonymous

    If a full scale investigation is required to find voter fraud, it’s no wonder that it is so rarely prosecuted.  But all the liberals’ votes come from out of state anyway, so they might as well start them in college.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    I thought this current crop of doofuses were sent to Disgusta to focus on JOBS and the ECONOMY?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    I thought this current crop of doofuses were sent to Disgusta to focus on JOBS and the ECONOMY?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    I thought this current crop of doofuses were sent to Disgusta to focus on JOBS and the ECONOMY?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    I thought this current crop of doofuses were sent to Disgusta to focus on JOBS and the ECONOMY?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    I thought this current crop of doofuses were sent to Disgusta to focus on JOBS and the ECONOMY?

  • Anonymous

    i do believe N.H request’s I.D. I am quite certain for the price of a 1 time cost of a  couple packs of smokes voting can be safe.I have an idea how about putting the cost into entitlements.50% like taxes get out of it for free and the dems can say they taxed the rich by charging them.

  • Anonymous

    i do believe N.H request’s I.D. I am quite certain for the price of a 1 time cost of a  couple packs of smokes voting can be safe.I have an idea how about putting the cost into entitlements.50% like taxes get out of it for free and the dems can say they taxed the rich by charging them.

  • Anonymous

    i do believe N.H request’s I.D. I am quite certain for the price of a 1 time cost of a  couple packs of smokes voting can be safe.I have an idea how about putting the cost into entitlements.50% like taxes get out of it for free and the dems can say they taxed the rich by charging them.

  • Anonymous

    i do believe N.H request’s I.D. I am quite certain for the price of a 1 time cost of a  couple packs of smokes voting can be safe.I have an idea how about putting the cost into entitlements.50% like taxes get out of it for free and the dems can say they taxed the rich by charging them.

  • Anonymous

    i do believe N.H request’s I.D. I am quite certain for the price of a 1 time cost of a  couple packs of smokes voting can be safe.I have an idea how about putting the cost into entitlements.50% like taxes get out of it for free and the dems can say they taxed the rich by charging them.

  • Anonymous

    1 case was found how many was covered up or simple not reported.

  • Anonymous

    1 case was found how many was covered up or simple not reported.

  • Anonymous

    1 case was found how many was covered up or simple not reported.

  • Anonymous

    1 case was found how many was covered up or simple not reported.

  • Anonymous

    1 case was found how many was covered up or simple not reported.

  • Anonymous

    I believe that same-day registration and “motel” voting, especially when both are allowed, open the door to fraud.  But before I go spending any political time and capital on this issue, let’s see some widespread examples.  If not, get back to what matters right now…and stop worrying about getting reelected.

  • Anonymous

    Where are the jobs, Charlie?

  • Anonymous

    How does the Secretary of State impact jobs?

  • Anonymous

     There was no “police report” made of a crime so no crime was committed. It is never a waste of time or resources to investigate ANY crime.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Arthur.Langley Arthur Langley

    Not 1 amongst the 200+ students. It was 1 in the whole state (900,000+ voters) and even that 1 was in Portland. 
     

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    Those wishing to do so can watch all 30 minutes of Sec. of State Summers’ press conference here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-ZuATRhdE

  • Anonymous

    What policy of UMF was violated? If I recall UMF said no policy was violated by anyone.

  • Anonymous

    Alternative headline:

    Sec of State’ s Office Indentifies Source of State Government Waste

    “AUGUSTA, Maine — Maine Secretary of State Charlie Summers presented findings on Wednesday of a two-month investigation into possible voter fraud by college students and noncitizens.
    His evidence showed that none of the students committed fraud.. “

  • Anonymous

     I happen to agree with you.

  • Anonymous

    And 9 years ago.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nathaniel-Crosby/100002543132542 Nathaniel Crosby

    Where is the  “no name-calling  or personnel attacks” being followed correctly.

  • Anonymous

    JD. The Secretary of State is the constitutional officer in charge of elections in the State of Maine. I am not certain seeing that Webster made his claims directly to Secretary of State Summers that he didn’t in effect make a report of a crime. It is possible to commit a crime by not filing income taxes but the police are not the agency that would investigate. Interesting question though.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, “We didn’t find any proof but we’re still right . . . ”

    Also, no mention of whether any of those investigated, including the non-citizen, used same-day registration.

  • Anonymous

    The story does not state really that it was “found” by this investagation, did it ?
    Didn’t that he had voted come out in the deportation process ?

  • Anonymous

    And ID’s will solve the problem? Of course, no one would ever think of making a fake ID…

  • Anonymous

    It could be the difference between a federal and state law. I believe (but willing to admit not 100%) that Maine law is built around the filing of a police report. Maybe someone in BDN land has that answer.

  • Anonymous

    Look  is it really fixing the problem if you make it harder to vote? You can make all these laws to make it safer to vote at the cost of preventing people from voting that are legitimate voters. To prevent one case of fraud you are going to disenfranchise, many more voters, that is not very good policy.

  • Anonymous

    You shouldn’t have to pay to vote, period.

  • StillRelaxin

    This proves that Mr. Summers knows how to play the game of  politics.  He proves that he isn’t as crazy as “Hide the Vans” Charlie Webster, but he also doesn’t completely pull the rug out from beneath the crazy people who fear that our past system was wide open to fraud.  Nice.  See he’s not crazy but the crazy people will still be running on the fumes of fear of the “possible” that have been pumped out the tailpipes of all those vans Charlie Webster hides every election day to prevent folks from voting for candidates that he doesn’t like.  This whole senario shows just how screwed up the GOP/Tea Party is.  Time to send them all packing back into the backwoods of political isolation. 

  • Anonymous

    “Glad some still take voting serious.Go lepage fix augusta”

    So do think more should be done to defend Maine from  zombie attacks ? .
    It COULD happen, too.

    And you don’t seem to let the reality that NO student voter fraud has occured stop your other disproportionate concerns….

    Or is the traditional American values that a crime, or least probible cause,  should be uncovered, first, before people, are never mind accused, but even investigated, are not part of the Consitution that conservatives think should apply to all Americans ?
     

    Is it that all these Sorry Cherlies and Timmy, too,  do not believe in needing probible cause …
    or is it that they think voting in a politically incorrect manner, is a crime, no matter what the courts have ruled ?

    So who’s supposed to be opposed to more big government ? 
     I get confused about that, reading stories like this, Timmy.

  • Anonymous

    And Govenah, please protect all your supporters from zombies, boogey men, and everything that goes bump in the night.
    Do it in the name of less big government.

  • Anonymous

    If it aint’ broke, don’t “fix” it.

  • Anonymous

    And people have to work 2 or 3 jobs in the first place because of Republican politics.

  • Anonymous

    Every system is open to some potential for fraud.  Always has been.  The question is how do you deal with it.  This system wasn’t broken and didn’t need to be fixed.  Maybe a tweak here or there, and certainly investigate any allegations of fraud.  But to label an entire group of people.  ie students in this case is not the society I care to live in,  I prefer an open and free environment.  Seeking to suppress anyone’s legal right to vote is not what this country is about.
    I am glad that these students and the voting process were vindicated.  But Mr Webster owes these individuals an apology, that they won’t get.

  • Anonymous

    Looks to me like they violated the statement of general principles of the student conduct code which calls for mutual respect and integrity.

    http://www.farmington.edu/campuslife/Student_Policies_and_Procedures.pdf

  • Anonymous

    “He finds no evidence of voter fraud so this indicates the system is vunerable??? What a line.”

    Ahyup, but it’s not very orginial.
    He might be copying it from, may-be,  Pol Pot or … 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nathaniel-Crosby/100002543132542 Nathaniel Crosby

       Was it a National Presidential election? If so, did anyone vote for the same candidate in their home state as well as in Maine? I heard one couple say that they were new to the town and didn’t have a chance to register. They clerks were polite and helped them to register. To this day, I have never seen them in town(900-1,000 people).

  • Anonymous

    “What policy of UMF was violated? If I recall UMF said no policy was violated by anyone.”

    Which State laws were violated that have resulted in this  ”investiagion” of students voting legally , JD ?

    ROTFLOL.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to see an apology to the students and voters of Maine, in plain english , from Charlie Webster, the Secretary of State, and those who posted here with their slander and false accusations.
    I won’t hold my breath.

  • Anonymous

    It is always a waste of money to investigate a baseless allegation that is entirely without evidence. The crime that needs to be investigated here has nothing to do with voter fraud. The whole scam is part of the right wingers attempt to skew the next election and is happening in many states, including New Hampshire:

    http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/opinionperspectives/917769-263/voter-id-bill-based-on-false-allegations.html

  • Anonymous

    An accusation was made, an investigation was conducted and the accusation was found to be without merit.

    If you can find a state law which was violated go ahead and post it.

  • Anonymous

    And people have to work 2 or 3 jobs in the first place because of Republican politics.     
    *******************************************************
    people have to work 2 or 3 jobs because of other people who won’t work ONE job.

  • Anonymous

    Would you then agree that that is a matter for UMF to handle?

  • Anonymous

    And that can be found where in Maine law?

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Webster held a press conference and waved around a piece of paper on which he claimed to have 209 names of students which he then alleged proved voter fraud. He then presented the list to the Maine Secretary of State who conducted a full investigation which involved officials from different states as well as  investigators from the US Dept of Homeland Security. Today Secretary of State Summers released the results of that investigation which found that none of the 209 students had committed voter fraud as was alleged by Mr. Webster. Mr. Webster made these allegations which have now proven to be false as the Chairman of the Maine Republican Party.  Something tells me the receptionist at the headquarters of the Maine Republican Party is about to meet quite a few process servers. 

  • Anonymous

    So 1 case of fraud in 200 demonstrates “fragile and vulnerable”? 
    ******************************************************
    No, but as usual, the BDN and it’s crack gumshoe in the State House fail to write the “whole story”.  The investigation uncovered numerous errors that were clerical in nature (that means the town clerks made mistakes when registering voters) and that most of those errors occurred when they  did same-day registrations. So, the clerks, being inundated with same-day registrants and therefore “rushed” make errors that they wouldn’t have made if people came in to register before Election Day.  That system is vulnerable.  “fragile”…eh, not so much.

  • Anonymous

    They are working 2 or 3 jobs because there aren’t enough jobs that pay a decent living wage. They are probably working the 2nd job just to pay for health insurance.

  • Anonymous

    These Republicans would be funny if they were not so deceptive and full of lies.

  • Anonymous

    Now, it would be nice if Charlie Webster would apologize to all us Mainers for his lies.

  • Anonymous

    Title 17-A: MAINE CRIMINAL CODE
    Part 2: SUBSTANTIVE OFFENSES
    Chapter 21: OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER

    The Secretary of State is a public official tasked with law enforcement responsibilities.

  • OldWench

    What a WASTE of money…..and another case of political pettiness to embarrass Maine.  Vote these tools OUT.

  • Anonymous

    Oh no just when we felt save from voter fraud now we have to worry about zombies? The poor people of Maine will never get any sleep at this rate. 

  • Anonymous

    Re. the “patriotic” quote: If you live in one state during the primary and another at general election time–people do move–why is voting at the different times in different states “unpatriotic”?

  • Anonymous

    How many times are you going to be fooled by the same lie?

  • Anonymous

    This sounds like it is right out of a Monty Python movie.  Think about the Holy Grail movie and the witch trial scene or the nearly dead bodies from the plague skit.  Or maybe the black knight with no arms or legs still picking a fight.  Keep up this foolishness and the moderate majority who oppose the extremist on both sides of the aisle, will find a group of candidates who can work together and get reasonable things done.  We have gone from the frying pan (Activist Baldy) to the fire (Neocon Penguin).  We must find the middle ground again.  Do the political parties understand why the people of Maine, or the nation most of the time, do not elect one party into a full majority for more than a year or two?  Oh well, only a little over a year to a chance to change things again.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    They both kept up this mirage in the news enough to convince many in the paranoid realm that the evil cheating Democrats are coming.

  • Anonymous

    No,the apoligy will be forthcoming, something like”the check is in the mail.”

  • Anonymous

    That is just about the sum and total of it.I just hope people don’t forget that.

  • Anonymous

    Your attempt to blame all the ills of the world on the welfare recipient is a tired and pathetic talking point, give it up.

  • Anonymous

    Errors do NOT denote fraud.

  • Anonymous

    What kind of money did the” whack job” cost us taxpayers to find out nothing was wrong?

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Charlie Webster: the dog that chases an imaginary squirrel up a tree and then sits there barking for hours on end… at nothing. 

    Thanks, dolt, for wasting our money.

  • Anonymous

    An accusation of fraud that was knowingly false was presented to the Secretary of State, a law enforcement official. This is the same as ‘filing a false police report’.

  • http://twitter.com/crzyn8me Nate Smith

    Not sure if this is what you’re referring to or not, but since in the radio news I heard about this earlier today, it mentioned the case of people listing a South Portland hotel as their home address, I’m going to assume you are…

    Not allowing anyone who has a hotel/motel as their current place of residence to vote will keep out otherwise legitimate voters from making their votes heard.  Personally, I have had to live in a hotel for a couple weeks when the lease had run out at my current apartment, but there was a couple weeks before my new apartment would be ready.  In my case, this hadn’t been during an election period, but it was quite close to one.  Does this mean that I shouldn’t get to vote?

  • Anonymous

    Whether UMF had any policies violated is a moot point. Voter supression was commited in the ‘hiding’ of student use transportation.

  • Anonymous

    Your attempt to blame all the ills of the world on the welfare recipient is a tired and pathetic talking point, give it up.     
    **********************************************
    and your unfounded and baseless accusations are tired and pathetic…give it up.

  • Anonymous

    what a crock. they looked back 9 years and found one, just one case of an improper registration. Lets remember the whole impetus to this. The case was sent to Summers in defense of the legislatures elimination of same day registration. The argument for that is to give time to town clerks to check registration. well were all those 500 registrations that Summers went over every checked by town clerks? No, none are checked, not in 2 days, or two months, or apparently 9 years. I’d love to hear about the system that town clerks use to check these registrations, I’d love to hear if there is one, cause there isn’t!This is just the GOP blowing more smoke up our butts.Vote yes on Issue 1!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    An ID system will NOT prevent voter fraud. I can go to any city in this state (and others) and obtain a fake state ID, get a clue.

  • Anonymous

    This is the thing, regardless of reality and facts, these people will still believe what they want to believe. It is ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    That would make registering your car in maine as a pre-requisite to vote a poll tax as well,,,, free registrations for everyone!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Very good point! Not one of our current legislators campaigned on a “fix voter registration”. year,,, we’re bleeding jobs. But I’m not surprised that it has become the focus of their efforts. Jobs?? What jobs? In the last 6 months of 2010 Maine added jobs, every month this year,,,,, jobs lost.

  • Anonymous

    EVER.

  • Anonymous

    actually Webster lied about that, the vans were never taken out on election day

  • Anonymous

    I’ve lived in maine my whole life 46 years, AND I’M A LIBERAL!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Get used to it…it’s only going to get worse, regardless if a D or an R is in charge!

  • Anonymous

    Your right.  The ills of the world are the result of the progressive movement’s insistence on a debt based monetary system that is inherently unsustainable.  It all started with Wilson back in 1914 and the wealth of the entire world has been destroyed, slowly but surely, ever since.  The party had to come to an end sometime and guess what?  We’re at the end.  In 20 years, we will be living a quality of life enjoyed by folks back in the 1840′s…and you can take that to your the debt ridden, over leveraged, fraudulent bank!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    In Irag they dip your finger in Ink!

    Maybe we should do that!

  • Anonymous

    The democrats have been committing voting fraud for 40 years, now they have been caught and are trying to make it go away.  Too late for that.

  • Anonymous

    Your point about GOP/Tea Party is well taken. Unfortunately American Legislative Executive Committee is probably behind this. Is it any coincidence that limiting voter rights through eliminating same day registration, requiring photo id or passports, or inconveniently placing registration locations are happening  in a large number of states with Republican governors and legislatures?
      It is not coincidence. These activities require coordination. The coordinating agency is ALEC. Their intent is to push the conservative agenda, including limiting Democratic votes and voters. Their targets are state governments. They are very effective and VERY insidious. Of course, funding sources include Koch brothers.
      ALEC seems to be alive and well in Maine. ALEC is like carbon monoxide. Invisible and lethal.

  • Anonymous

    Asked whether voting twice in the same year in two separate states constituted fraud, Summers answered: “Technically, it’s not a violation of the law. I’m not sure exactly how patriotic it is.”

    “Beware of the leader, who strikes the war drum in order to
    transfer the citizens into patriotic glow, patriotism is indeed a double-sided
    sword. It makes the blood so boldly, like it constricts the intellect. And if
    the striking of the war drum reached a fiebrige height and the blood is cooking
    and hating, and the intellect is dismissed, the leader doesn’t need to reject
    the citizens rights. The citizens, cought by anxiety and blinded through
    patriotism, will subordinate all their rights to the leader and this even with
    happy courage. Why do I know that? I know it, because this is, what I did. And
    I am Gaius Julius Cäesar”

  • Anonymous

    Quit insulting doofuses.  It’s not right.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure the statute of limitations has run out on the crime of “van firsties in the second degree”.

  • Anonymous

    So what’s with all the drama? I am so underwhemed. He knew the results yesterday and more than likely knew prior to that. Why if this is so vital to the voters of Maine, would you delay this curcial bit of info, or more correctly non info.

  • Anonymous

    LOL, you would think we’re a dying breed, but that’s only because the tantrum tea people get all the press.  I too am proud to be an FDR Democrat, not a progressive, not an Obama Dem, not even a Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, or Clinton Democrat. FDR had the courage of his convictions and saved this nation, allowing  the brief golden age of the middle class to develop making this country the envy of the world. Now we are the red-headed stepchildren all in a pi*^#ng contest to see who can make the most Americans suffer.

  • DQKennard

    zombies, boogey men and things that go bump in the night are greater risks that voter fraud.

  • Anonymous

    Well, Augusta spent taxpayer dollars chasing rabbits again…

  • DQKennard

    Zombies might vote. I’m not sure that death technically disqualifies one from voting, as long as they can shamble to the polls. Maybe ID checking would help, if they’d died long enough ago for the ID to expire. We better make that explicit in the laws: no dead people voting, even if they can get to the polls. (actually, I suppose there might be something in some jurisdictions to cover the situation of people dying while the absentee ballot is in transit.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJ7QHAWSNLX6Q464TU7IFDN6FQ JohnR

    Alec, Alec what do we do now says the two Chuckies. Oh never mind, just bring me another Koch.

  • Anonymous

    If this were reversed, if the Democrats had instigated this 3-card monte investigation, the trolls would be swarming to this article to rail and rail against the evil Democrats. Where are they today? In reading through I see a few illiterate mini-me trolls with atrocious spelling attempting to make disparaging comments, but it is obvious that they haven’t even read the article.  Who sang the song “Send in the Clowns”?? Maybe we could change that to “Send in the Trolls” :0)

  • Anonymous

    Squirrel !?!
    Where’s the squirrel ?

  • Anonymous

    Dear Governor LaPage,

    Why don’t we next see if we can get to the bottom of the terrible problem we have with people practicing witchcraft!  It is a terrible threat to our Way of Life, you know, and I know that if we investigate thoroughly, we will find these horrible witches that are everywhere among us, everywhere I say!

    Yours truly,
    A secret admirer.

  • Anonymous

    See DQ now you have gone and done it. My guess is that in the next few days either “Crazy Charlie” Webster or one of the other deluded tea drinkers is going to request a special investigation into zombies voting and it’s all going to be your fault.

  • Anonymous

    Just have to say… I work 7 days a week as a farmer and still barely make it.  It’s not because of my tax load or regulations.  I work 2 other jobs on the side and get paid good money.  I still can’t afford health insurance, etc… But thank God I’m not sitting behind a desk.  
    Stop whining.  

  • Anonymous

    Sooo… we’re waisting our tax payer dollars on this knucklehead???  Someone help me understand.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

       What needs to be done is require Alec to disclose all its funders and all information in regard to its  Model Legislation under the freedom of information act because it claims to be a bipartisan non profit organisation yet refused to give information to Campus Progressive because they are not members.

    From
     http://www.campusprogress.org/articles/conservative_corporate_advocacy_group_alec_behind_voter_disenfranchise/

    (ALEC refused to distribute the model legislation to Campus Progress.ALEC spokesperson Raegan Weber* emailed, “Model legislation is a privilege of membership and therefore we don’t provide this publicly” — a somewhat unusual practice by a non-profit public policy group organized under the Internal Revenue Service code as a 501(c)(3) charitable or educational group; most such organizations make public most fruits of their labors, rather than concealing it from people who aren’t members.)

    A reasonable person could conclude that they are a secretative conservative group that has  declared class warfare on the American People!

    http://www.commoncause.org/siteapps/advocacy/ActionItem.aspx?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=7550265

  • Anonymous

    Here is the section which may apply in this case. The issue will be proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he “knowingly” provided “false information”. Just my opinion

    Title 17-A: MAINE CRIMINAL CODE
    Part 2: SUBSTANTIVE OFFENSES
    Chapter 21: OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER

    §509. False public alarm or repor

    1. A person is guilty of false public alarm or report if:

    A. He knowingly gives or causes to be given false information to any law enforcement officer with the intent of inducing such officer to believe that a crime has been committed or that another has committed a crime, knowing the information to be false

    2. False public alarm is a Class D crime.

    http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/17-a/title17-Asec509.html

    Class D: Crimes punishable by up to 364 days incarceration and a $2,000 fine

  • Anonymous

    You conservative types are really beginning to annoy me.  If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    So for nearly 10o years we have been on a downhill slide?  In 1920 life expectancy for a white male in the USA was 56.34 years.  In 2004 it was 75.7, an increase of 19.36 years, a 34.4% increase in longevity.  For white females it was 58.53 in 1920, 80.8 in 2004, an increase of 22.27 years, a 38.0% increase.  All other males 47.14 to 69.8, 22.66 years, a 48.1% increase, and for all other females it was 46.92 to 76.5, 29.58 years, a 63.0% increase in years of life.  I guess it’s been quite a party, and I’m sure all the people who are now able to live 20 to 25 years longer and see their grandchildren grow up instead of just being born would think that 2004 is better than 1920. 

    (Figuring 25 years per generation, a 56 year-old is likely to die when his grandchild is about 6.  A 75 year old will die when his grandchild is about 25 and giving birth to the first great grandchild.  Just in case my reasoning is a little hard to follow.)

  • Anonymous

    Another baseless attack.

  • Anonymous

    Did you read the article?

  • Anonymous

    Finally!  I have plenty of crows in my neighborhood if Charlie Webster is short of them since he’s due to eat crow.

    Can the Secretary of State submit legislation?  Granted, he was appointed by the Legislature but this would seem to be another blurring of the speration of powers at the state level.  Let’s hope that his definition of residency is legal and constitutional.  I’d suggest that he have that cheked out thoroughly before pursuing another expensive and possibly illegal boondoggle.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a Ron Paul plank, even more hyperbolic.  The surest way to retreat to the 1840′s is to pursue Ron Paul type policies that harken back to that era, with all of its ills and not of its benefits.

  • Anonymous

    We can only hope, don’t hold your breath.

  • Anonymous

    Do we really expect him to apologize? 

  • Anonymous

    The one and only case was not part of either student witchhunt.

  • Anonymous

    Just like Summers, getting desperate.

  • Anonymous

    Read.

  • Anonymous

    Negatively, but indirectly.  How many more graduates of Maine colleges will choose to leave the State which produces this kind of insulting politicians?

  • Anonymous

    If sarcasm, LOL.  If not, get real.

  • Anonymous

    Repeating your erronious post will not improve it.

  • Anonymous

    Data please.  Not worth a reply, but I bit anyway.

  • Anonymous

    As I previoulsy posted, that method is an abomination, not practiced by several other states, and promotes fraud and other governmental misbehavior.

  • kcjonez

    82% yes on the BDN poll.  I hope we do as well in the November poll.  The out of state special interest money has not brought its fear and vitriol to the airwaves yet but it’s coming.  

    Yes on 1!

  • Anonymous

    Jesus will be walking down Main St. in Bangor before that happens.

  • Anonymous

    I thought you were lying in the road. Go back to sleep. When listening to the crazies that have bent your reality into the surreal, just know that the next step is civil war. Cause you’re Koch suckkers paid for your soul and warped your brain in ways the rest of civilization simply will not put up with. 

  • Anonymous

    I thought you were lying in the road. Go back to sleep. When listening to the crazies that have bent your reality into the surreal, just know that the next step is civil war. Cause you’re Koch suckkers paid for your soul and warped your brain in ways the rest of civilization simply will not put up with. 

  • Anonymous

    You are washed up and tired. But again, I thought you frankenfurters couldn’t get out of the road long enough to stay alive.

  • Anonymous

    Small words OK? You are wrong. Money neither creates nor destroys wealth. Goods and services are not money. Money has been a tool we have used to organize the complex trade of goods and services. It might be time for something new that works better in today’s world. We’d have to plan that first. In the mean time Dickinson, please be bright enough not to let reasons drive you to betray us all into the hands of our enemies.

  • Anonymous

    Small words OK? You are wrong. Money neither creates nor destroys wealth. Goods and services are not money. Money has been a tool we have used to organize the complex trade of goods and services. It might be time for something new that works better in today’s world. We’d have to plan that first. In the mean time Dickinson, please be bright enough not to let reasons drive you to betray us all into the hands of our enemies.

  • Anonymous

    I think I’ll help you understand the difference between waist and waste. Waist doesn’t apply here in the context in which you are using it. 

  • Anonymous

    Did you realize that many seemingly normal people today consider themselves to be practicing witches? Doctors, lawyers, nurses, laborers—think about any job out there—the person you would least expect might be a practicing witch. Did you know that we even have witches in our U.S. military?
    It is estimated that in the United States alone there are over 50,000 people—women and men—who claim to be witches! Some scholars studying this modern religious movement estimate the number to be 300,000.
    No matter how many there may be, the number of people interested in witch rituals is growing daily. And we should become most alarmed at the high number of teens interested in practicing witchcraft. Adult practitioners have come out of the broom closet and are opening the door to the youth of this country. Young girls are encouraged to believe that practicing witchcraft is a wonderful means of developing and strengthening their girl power. (The Trumpet…Dennis Leap) WICCA…..look it up for yourself.
    girl power. (The Trumpet…Dennis Leap) WICCA…..look it up for yourself.
      

  • Anonymous

    I think it was American money

  • Anonymous

    Oh hey…ain’t it the truth, tho. How have those wascally wepublicans affected you and your life with their deceptive lying behavior?

  • Anonymous

    One has to only look at the posture of Charlie Summers and you sense he can easily become
    the poster boy for hacks in Maine. Looks like he is all set to give both barrels to Maine voters and taxpayers again.
    If Chuck was the real deal about preventing voter fraud he would start by getting rid of electronic voting machines and go back to the paper ballot. He might also provide everyone who voted with a carbon copy of how they voted which they would keep.
    Yea Chuck could make an impact on voter fraud by increasing the penalties for voter fraud to a 20 year mandatory jail sentence with no good time off the sentence and no  Guv-enah pardons.
    I go serious about voter fraud in 1991 when I discovered FBI  agents got outed in Cincinnati
    by Bob Draise and Leonard Gates . Both men worked at Cincinnati bell telephone and had worked jointly with local FBI  agents for over 10 years  placing illegal phone taps on everybody who was left wing , black activists  to John Glenn. We picked up the phone and invited Leonard Gates to come to Maine and speak about the voter fraud he was committing for the FBI. he told the Bates audience the FBI  is doing it throughout the country. Think I am playing with you?
    Google leonard gates bob draise  fbi voter fraud
    The Google again but add the word john glenn

  • Anonymous

    Secretary of State Summers and Republican party chairman Webster occupy positions that I had always supposed to be capable ( at least in theory) of more substantial agenda’s, dialogues and achievements than this tunefully arranged and orchestrated duet of mendacious quackery and party hackery!  Every citizen regardless of political affiliations deserves better than this buffoonery in the political discourse of their state.  This is what happens when party hacks lower the integrity of  their positions to their own level of incompetence.  One should keep a close eye on the people who foisted this duo of singing  turkeys on an unsuspecting electorate.

  • Jazz11

    One case of fraud in 30 years and the Republicans are in a tither. Come-on you must have something better to do.

  • Jazz11

    One case of fraud in 30 years and the Republicans are in a tither. Come-on you must have something better to do.

  • Jazz11

    One case of fraud in 30 years and the Republicans are in a tither. Come-on you must have something better to do.

  • Anonymous

    Votergate!

  • Anonymous

    Votergate!

  • Anonymous

    Votergate!

  • Anonymous

    Votergate!

  • Anonymous

    You have it backwards.  You don’t have to register your car to vote.  A resident has to register vehicles used and housed in the state.  Voting is not the violation not registering your vehicle is.

  • Anonymous

    I propose a ban on allowing same day obtaining of a marriage license and actual wedding.
     This will allow a cooling off period and avoid marriage fraud.

  • Anonymous

    MOOOOOOOOOOOOve over complainers.  No more false reasons to stand between the voters and the polls.

  • Anonymous

    liked for so many hilarious phrases, particularly “to their own level of incompetence”

    still laughing. thank you.

  • Anonymous

    for heavens sake.  GWBush inherited a surplus when he took office.  Obama inherited an economic crisis from the GOP’s 8 years in office.

    i don’t care much about party pointing fingers, but history is history.

  • Anonymous

    I’m worried because Charlie Webster has reserved all the college vans and busses to bring in out of state voters to vote the ALEC, MHPC, Tea Party agenda.

  • Anonymous

    that’s a terrible way to talk to someone.  if you can not promote your ideas with speaking in such a negative way to someone, you just do your ’cause’ harm, anyway.

    stoopid.  just stoopid.

  • Anonymous

    hey ff.  hang in there.  we don’t agree on everything, but i enjoy conversations with you.  ;)

  • Anonymous

    the abolition of the poll tax was considered a key step in our country’s path towards democracy and equality.   we don’t want to go back to those times.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax

  • Anonymous

    ‘poll’ tax

  • Anonymous

    Sort of like George H. W. Bush haveing a beautiful home in Maine but claiming an appartment in Houston Texas as his primary residence.

  • Anonymous

    i agree with you, voter fraud is a serious issue.  

    but if you look at our nation, we have a long and respected history or expanding voter rights, not limiting them.  and so, I support same day registration.

    Democracy is a messy thing. We know that the most efficient form of government is a dictatorship.  I happily live with a little mess in order to have a government founded in democratic ideals.

    perhaps if more concerned citizens volunteered at the polls?  where I vote, the volunteers are all octogenarian.  i’m sure they could use a set of younger eyes and hands. 

    we have to stop thinking laws will fix everything and understand we have a role to play in government by volunteering (it’s our civic duty).

    voting is not like cashing a check or checking in to a hotel.  

  • Anonymous

    you do realize that you are asking the party of less government regulation to create more government regulations?

  • Lori Cole

    A solution looking for a problem.

  • Anonymous

    Gosh!!!! Really??? Well, I don’t recall the winner of an election calling voter fraud but I guess I grew up in a different world.

  • Anonymous

    good point, grumpy.

  • Anonymous

    exactly 

  • Anonymous

    poor people working 2 or 3 jobs probably pay very little in taxes so I don’t think you can blame welfare for their economic situation

  • Anonymous

    I see…college students leave because a politician actually does the job he is charged with. Makes perfect sense. Doesn’t matter if you believed what Webster brought forward or not. The Secretary of State had a duty to investigate and they actually did their job.

  • http://twitter.com/rklindell R. Kenneth Lindell

    Charlie Webster should publicly apologize to those he accused of fraud.  This whole thing has been an embarrassing sideshow.

  • Anonymous

    The Secretary of State had a duty to investigate.

  • Anonymous

    “If Chuck was the real deal about preventing voter fraud he would start
    by getting rid of electronic voting machines and go back to the paper
    ballot.”

    My vote is case on a paper ballot. Isn’t the method (paper v. electronic) left up to the local city/town?
    ~~~~~
    “He might also provide everyone who voted with a carbon copy of how they voted which they would keep.”

    For what purpose? Without a corresponding serial number or voter ID tag you couldn’t challenge how your vote was counted so why provide a “carbon copy”?
    ~~~~~
    “Yea Chuck could make an impact on voter fraud by increasing the
    penalties for voter fraud to a 20 year mandatory jail sentence with no
    good time off the sentence and no  Guv-enah pardons.”

    The Secretary of State does not make or pass laws.

  • Tyke

    Summers said that American citizens  moving frequently and voting in any place they do not intend to live in forever  is unpatriotic.

    Taking a page from their own playbook, I now propose that everyone pass this fact on as often and as loudly as possible:

    Prominent  Maine Republican, Secretary of State Charlie Summers, just publicly  declared that active US troops are UNPATRIOTIC if they vote where they are stationed!

    Please Note: This statement is far more accurate and truthful than the current smear campaign against patriotic Americans exercising their right to vote.

  • Anonymous

    MoveOn.org, MoveOn.org, Acorn, Acorn, George Soros, George Soros, Warren Buffett, Warren Buffett both parties have there crosses to bear (and yes it is bear and not bare for the BDN Grammar Police).

  • newportres

    “Asked whether he supported any possible changes to law, Farmer responded: “As soon as [Summers] provides evidence of a problem, we can talk about solutions.”
    We heard this a lot before  9/11.
    Why fix aircraft security, why shouldn’t we allow box cutters on planes, why should passengers resist the hijackers?
    There hasn’t been a problem yet.
    Then the towers came down.
    We will put out no fire until it is completely out of control!

  • Anonymous

    Do you believe that the new law the “People’s Veto” is seeking to overturn should be completely overturned or just the part concerning same day registration?

  • newportres

    GW Bush did not inherit a surplus of anything.  Clinton managed (just barely and with the help of a conservative congress) not to overspend for a couple years.
    He did this through some neat accounting tricks, massive cuts in military replenishment, and some theft from the Social Security trust fund and due to the fact that he had not one conflict duringf his terms in office.
    No one used planes as missles while he was in office.
    His greatest challenge while in office was hiding the heels sticking out from under the front of his desk.  Pretty easy to balance the budget under those conditions.
    That being said he did nothing to lower the deficitr or create any great surplus for the next guy.  If nothing else Bush was going to go back in the hole just to buy the supplies and repair services for the military that had not been purchased over the last 2 years.

  • Anonymous

    Weeks of nonsense that netted nothing and the Republicans are stills determined to steal themselves an election.

    It’s the same way they use the internets, keeping looking till you find the answer you want, if that doesn’t work make it up!

  • Anonymous

    Elections have consequences.  These are the idiots we sent to represent us.  Had enough I have.

  • Anonymous

    This article highlights the general methods and attitude of the Republicans. They always want fix things, the problem is they don’t want to fix anything that’s actually broken. They create the failure in whatever system they determine has a better chance of ensuring their return to office. It is an “awl” inspiring sight to see the lengths they are will to go through and perpetuate a ruse of “Justice.” They try to prolong their political survival and force in place voting restrictions that benefit themselves, and it will be all legal. However they do it, in the end, they’re still thieves.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    The Emperor has no clothes…..

  • Anonymous

    People work 2 or 3 jobs because 1 job doesn’t pay a worker enough to buy all the stuff advertising tells them they need.  However, with luck, you can become a CEO making many times that and use the extra to form PACs to buy politicians (R and D) to protect your assets.   It’s your right under the Constitution to do that.  But if you organize a group of workers to form PACs to protect labor, then you are more evil that satan and the root of all that is wrong in our great country.  How does that little contradiction go with your morning coffee?

  • Anonymous

    Hey now, it’s not just the welfare recipients who should be blamed.  You are missing a great chance to blame unions too, or illegal immigrants, or gays, or . . . . well pick any target of the great right wing conspiracy that can’t possibly exist.  Peace.

  • Anonymous

    let’s clarify some terms for sake of the discussion.  there is the national debt, the deficit and the a balanced budget.  those are different metrics.

    regarding Dem v Repub (yawn), no kool aid for me please.  the fact is the system works best when there are opposing parties, as you describe in Clinton’s time. opposition makes us sharper, it also makes compromise necessary, decreases dysfunctional dogmatism.   You might reflect that R. Reagan and Tip ONeil shared lunch and had a positive working relationship.  (for readers who might not remember, Tip was the left wing Dem Speaker of the House when the very conservative Rep. Ronald Reagan was Pres.)

    I prefer a bipartisan approach.  we can get there again if we all do more listening, less talking.http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

  • Anonymous

    KnewB,  personally I like a well-crafted phrase and your last sentence is a doozy.  I may even use it myself at some point.  But maybe this isn’t the place where I’d be so blunt. 

  • Anonymous

    oh, monchere, I’m not tired—I’m not the one who is posting incomprehensible comments at 2:00 in the morning!  Put down the salts and go get some sleep—everything will look better in the light of day.

  • Anonymous

    Nah.  He probably believes Summers was paid off by “the Great Progressive Conspiracy”, or some other paranoid delusion.

  • Anonymous

    Errors like?  Mispelled name?  Wrong house number?  Party affiliation?  Such fragility or vulnerability is acceptable in my book.  Preventing someone who wants to vote from voting is not.

  • Anonymous

    Own up to it.  Your fears were unfounded.  Accept that its not as bad as you thought and move on (pun intended) to better things.  Peace.

  • Anonymous

    sasmo,  I am disheartened that you don’t earn so much in the farming profession.  I happen to think it is the most noble profession in existence.  Where would we be without knowledgeable people tilling the land and keeping it pure?  Although you work 2 other “good paying” jobs, I wonder if you somehow can’t afford a basic “Major Medical” insurance plan.  You may not be aware, but health insurance plans are offered at a very reasonable rate through the National Association of the Self Employed, and being a farmer, you are self-employed, so you could buy into a plan.  Please look into it.  Oh, and I don’t know who is whining, except the person who originally whined about having to work 2 or 3 jobs.  Heck, I work 2 jobs and I’m not complaining.

  • Anonymous

    ,

  • Anonymous

    So you are actually comparing citizens being able to participate in elections with same day voter registration to religious extremists wanting to kill Americans? Is this the new Godwin?

  • Anonymous

    More than one of us here I see.  Nice.

  • Anonymous

    And that case of fraud was already known prior to this investigation, the person who committed the fraud has been deported (he wasn’t even a US citizen), and steps were taken to make sure that didn’t happen again…. years ago.

  • Anonymous

    Errors like? Mispelled name? Wrong house number? Party affiliation? Such fragility or vulnerability is acceptable in my book. Preventing someone who wants to vote from voting is not.     
    *****************************************************
    Sweetheart, can’t you spell your own name correctly? hehehe. Actually, mispelled names can cause many problems, after all you go up to the elections clerk and just SAY your name, you don’t produce ID for them to verify that you are who you are.  If two people named John Kelly go in to vote and one spells his name “Kelley” and the other “Kelly”, and both entries on the rolls are spelled “Kelly”, then there’s a problem.  Wrong house number?  How are you going to get all your political advertisements from your party?  Hey, I wouldn’t want a cop breaking down my door and shooting me when he’s supposed to be arresting the guy next door….yeah, wrong house number.  Party affiliation?  Um, caucuses, primaries…. you think it’s OK then, to not be able to vote in the primary because the clerk wrote you down as a Green when you’re a Democrat(ic)?  Sure—you keep telling yourself that….

  • Anonymous

    Hunh?  Did you read this article?  Or are you being facetious?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I almost spit coffee at the screen when reading that. It’s not patriotic to want to participate in every election as a US citizen?? That’s like saying people who go to church more than once a week aren’t very religious.

  • Anonymous

    They didn’t even “find” that one, it was already known!

  • Anonymous

    Let me get this straight.  There was no voter fraud found other than 1 non-citizen vote, but we’re going to change the laws anyway because there might be voter fraud some day?  What a crock!

  • Anonymous

    Let me get this straight.  There was no voter fraud found other than 1 non-citizen vote, but we’re going to change the laws anyway because there might be voter fraud some day?  What a crock!

  • Anonymous

    Quoting from the wrticle “Asked whether voting twice in the same year in two separate states constituted fraud, Summers answered: “Technically, it’s not a violation of the law. I’m not sure exactly how patriotic it is.”

    ROBthePUBLICans always appeal to fake claims of patriotism and religion when they know that they don’t have a factual leg to stand on. Losers.

  • Anonymous

    Quoting from the wrticle “Asked whether voting twice in the same year in two separate states constituted fraud, Summers answered: “Technically, it’s not a violation of the law. I’m not sure exactly how patriotic it is.”

    ROBthePUBLICans always appeal to fake claims of patriotism and religion when they know that they don’t have a factual leg to stand on. Losers.

  • Anonymous

    What a waste of resources….. you should be ashamed.

  • Anonymous

    What a waste of resources….. you should be ashamed.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t know you could cheery pick when using a citizens initiative in trying to overturn a law that has been enacted by the lesiglature.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t know you could cheery pick when using a citizens initiative in trying to overturn a law that has been enacted by the lesiglature.

  • Anonymous

    There’s also a growing market in China with very “good” fake state ID’s available.  There have been several news stories on this recently.

  • Anonymous

    So what do we know REALLY:

    1) Charlie Webster, through his baseless fear-mongering claims, has rightfully earned his McCarthy nickname. Period.

    2) No examples of voter fraud were found despite desperate attempts by the party in power (the ROBthePUBLICans). None. Period.

    3) NOBODY voted in the same election twice. Period on that issue as well.

    4) Nine years ago, one guy in Portland voted who should not have been allowed to vote. He was deported. There was zero impact at all on any election as a result.

    5) “If one voter is disenfranchised, that’s too many” says Herr Summers. You mean like all the ones disenfranchised by the ROBthePUBLICans changing the voter registration law? Must be nice to be so perfect Charles…love the photo…but as a result of your investigation shouldn’t you be frowning with your thumbs down?

    6) The ROBthePUBLICans will apparently make thinly veiled threats to college students, denying them of their right to vote in this state. So, Mr. Summers…are you saying that people who don’t have autos registered in the state cannot vote? Good luck with that.

    7) Based on his comments by phone, Herr Charlie McCarthy Vebster is delusional.

    8) Hey Maine…you voted for this crew…wake up.

    9) Don’t bother with a lame retort…I won’t be back to read it. 

    10) NEXT…

  • Anonymous

    So the Chairman of the Republican Party says “jump!” and our Secretary of State only asks “how high?”
    I guess the order from headquarters was that he jump high enough to allow him to spend lots of time and money finding…nothing. And then to speculate that maybe for a student to vote in two states in one year was “unpatriotic.” Legal, yes. But Charlie Summers doesn’t just want legal voters. He wants them to pass his “patriotism” test as well. 
    And even though he only discovered one case of fraud, he sticks with his assertion that the current system is broken, and is imposing intolerable stress on election workers. 
    This is a really transparent attempt to change the election rules so as to disenfranchise people who are more likely to vote for Democrats. Plain and simple.

  • Anonymous

    It states in the article that “Although no students were targeted for voter fraud, they still are under scrutiny. Summers said he has sent letters to dozens of students notifying them that his investigation is complete but he also warned that if they intend to remain residents of Maine, they will need to register their car in the state.” The intention here is to place one more hurdle in the way of student voting. If a vehicle registration is required to prove residence, then the state is charging for the right to vote,I.E. a poll tax. If one section of the populace is exempt from paying it we all should be, ergo, free registrations. In other words, it was a stupid comment to make, and he should retract it immediately.

  • Anonymous

    Right wing methodology, you don’t have to prove anything, just repeat it over and over. Eventually it becomes the truth (in their minds).

  • Anonymous

    For the sake of the taxpayers who will be on hook to pay your medical bills if you get hurt, I hope you’re careful and lucky. If they whine about having to pay for medical care for people who don’t have insurance, what should I tell them?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Did you realize that many seemingly normal people today consider themselves to be practicing witches?

    Ex- presidents?

  • Anonymous

    Go stick your head back in the right wing sand box. We’ll give you a shout when it’s time to come make some other propagandist comment with absolutely no phyisical evidence to back it up.

  • Anonymous

    My guess is the the Sec’y of State is charged with seeing that certain laws are followed, such as corporate filings, motor vehicle filings, election law, etc. If he discovers evidence of criminal activity he probably would then give a referral of the case (and the evidence he has on hand) to the Attorney General’s office, who would indict and prosecute. 
    Making a false report to the state officer charged with enforcement of a law is a false report. The question would come down to the “knowingly” part. 

  • Anonymous

    For a fiscally conservative group, the right certainly likes to waste it to fit the political agenda.  Not that the Dems were a whole lot betta’, but at least they weren’t crying about wasteful spending.     I believe this is wasteful spending.  How about some infrastructure bonds to rebuild bridges, roads, schools.   Let’s put some people to work. 

  • Anonymous

    “…and due to the fact that he had not one conflict during his terms in office.”
    Forgot about the Balkans?  Care to remember the amount of money that “conflict” cost us?  Seems like you got caught up a bit too much in your own vitriolic rhetoric.  What a spin around the block that was!  Much of what you spun has been refuted by the way, indeed proven wrong for years.  Apparently you still seem to believe the unbelievable.     

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, probably a lot. We need an investigation. 
    But on the other hand, everybody knew this investigation was going on, and was actively looking for fraud. Every single town clerk has regular contact with the Sec’y of State’s office. The town clerk is the local official charged with enforcing voting rules. So what you’re suggesting is that the various town clerks either: A) wanted to cover up voter fraud, or B) Didn’t know that investigation was taking place, or C) didn’t know how to contact the Sec’y of State. All these seem rather unlikely.

  • Anonymous

    To me what is significant about this report is the fact those letters were sent out to the students.  Now there is an investigation we need.  Who authorized?  Why?  Was it illegal at worst, harrassment at best?  Please follow up Mr. Russell, we need answers.  Lots of answers.

  • Anonymous

    yes, toot suite

  • Anonymous

    You know what they always say, If it ain’t broke, might as well try to screw it up royally.

  • 525_44

    As another farmer to another I wish you the best. It’s a hard job.

  • Anonymous

    The Republicans feel it is more patriotic to NOT vote in every election? It’s amazing how their rhetoric gets more ridiculous the more we scrutinize their assertions.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Saw this BS reported this morning online… LePage has learned a lesson for the time being about keeping his foot out of his mouth. Hope the rest of the gop leadership in Maine stops making the state a laughing stock for the rest of the country. It was not so long ago that the policy initiatives coming out of Maine were “first in the nation,” “innovative,” forward thinking. That was until the regressive party got to power.

  • Anonymous

    In this case they are “cheery picking.

    The only part of the law enacted by the legislature during the last session which will be repealed by the “People’s Veto” if passed is the part about same day voter registration. The other part, moving back when you can vote via absentee ballot from the Monday to the Thursday prior to election day is not affected or repealed by the “People’s Veto”

  • 525_44

    Thanks. I usually agree with you.

  • Anonymous

    There is a lot of truth in your comment, sarcasm aside.  Repeat an untruth enough times or merely imply that something is true and it becomes the truth.  Just ask Rush.  That is his modus operandi.

  • Anonymous

    If Chuck wants to take a leadership role in advocating and representing Maine Voters
    and Democracy he would have collated the research literature now available regarding voter fraud and generated a AMBER ALERT system for local and county government to use and prevent voter fraud in Maine. How hard is it to cite cases of voter fraud and the technology used to commit it? For god’s sake even the Bangor Daily News could carry out this task.
    “Ain’t that saying somthum”
    The Secretary of State has always been the liaison and point man when
    legislation is needed in his department.
    What Maine voters don’t understand that the hacks in Augusta are part of a crime family
    and clamping down on voter fraud would level the playing field.
    I don’t know about you but I have been unable to distinguish between Republican and Democrat for a long long long long long time.
    Both parties now belong to the one party system called Corporations.
    Chuckie even has a sub division in his Secretary of State office called Department of Corporations.
    Yea, your right about paper ballots needing to have a voter id number .
    Chuck could easily build his case at Hackarama for the need to make voter fraud crimes a class 1 Felony with mandatory 20 year  prison sentences.
    Did I mention in my original post above that when Leonard Gates was committing voter
    for the FBI  that lawsuits were brought against Cincinnati Bell and during the trial in the discovery phase it was revealed that FBI  agents and the local police had torched and burnt down the offices?
    They torched the office of the local alternative newspaper called THE INDEPENDENT EYE .
    We decided to bring the editor of the newspaper Mike Avey , to speak at Bates College. Avey who was now a Professor of Political Science at Lander University told the audience he was able to successfully sue the Cincinnati Police for arson. But, his lawyer suddenly quit in the middle of the trial Avey brought against the FBI  for arson. A couple years after Avey spoke at Bates I called him to get updated about his lawsuit against the FBI. He told me he could not find an attorney to take the case. He also told me he recently woke up in the middle of the night to see a figure standing at the foot of his bed. He bedroom burst into flames and his home was a total loss.
    For more about Mike Avey google  mike avey lander 
    Or see link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=960&bih=451&q=mike+avey+lander&oq=mike+avey+lander&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1043692l1051004l1l1052059l21l21l5l8l8l0l389l1521l3.1.3.1l8l0

  • Anonymous

    If Chuck wants to take a leadership role in advocating and representing Maine Voters
    and Democracy he would have collated the research literature now available regarding voter fraud and generated a AMBER ALERT system for local and county government to use and prevent voter fraud in Maine. How hard is it to cite cases of voter fraud and the technology used to commit it? For god’s sake even the Bangor Daily News could carry out this task.
    “Ain’t that saying somthum”
    The Secretary of State has always been the liaison and point man when
    legislation is needed in his department.
    What Maine voters don’t understand that the hacks in Augusta are part of a crime family
    and clamping down on voter fraud would level the playing field.
    I don’t know about you but I have been unable to distinguish between Republican and Democrat for a long long long long long time.
    Both parties now belong to the one party system called Corporations.
    Chuckie even has a sub division in his Secretary of State office called Department of Corporations.
    Yea, your right about paper ballots needing to have a voter id number .
    Chuck could easily build his case at Hackarama for the need to make voter fraud crimes a class 1 Felony with mandatory 20 year  prison sentences.
    Did I mention in my original post above that when Leonard Gates was committing voter
    for the FBI  that lawsuits were brought against Cincinnati Bell and during the trial in the discovery phase it was revealed that FBI  agents and the local police had torched and burnt down the offices?
    They torched the office of the local alternative newspaper called THE INDEPENDENT EYE .
    We decided to bring the editor of the newspaper Mike Avey , to speak at Bates College. Avey who was now a Professor of Political Science at Lander University told the audience he was able to successfully sue the Cincinnati Police for arson. But, his lawyer suddenly quit in the middle of the trial Avey brought against the FBI  for arson. A couple years after Avey spoke at Bates I called him to get updated about his lawsuit against the FBI. He told me he could not find an attorney to take the case. He also told me he recently woke up in the middle of the night to see a figure standing at the foot of his bed. He bedroom burst into flames and his home was a total loss.
    For more about Mike Avey google  mike avey lander 
    Or see link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=960&bih=451&q=mike+avey+lander&oq=mike+avey+lander&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1043692l1051004l1l1052059l21l21l5l8l8l0l389l1521l3.1.3.1l8l0

  • Anonymous

    This is soooo bad…does the party of no have any moral compass left, have they no decency left, and then I read about a Republican congressman who makes 400K a year, and says he cant afford a tax hike because he cant feed his family on that piddly amount, these people are truly out of touch with reality…how else can you explain their behaviour, I think the 2 charlies should be severly punished for their crimes…YES crimes,

  • Anonymous

    This is soooo bad…does the party of no have any moral compass left, have they no decency left, and then I read about a Republican congressman who makes 400K a year, and says he cant afford a tax hike because he cant feed his family on that piddly amount, these people are truly out of touch with reality…how else can you explain their behaviour, I think the 2 charlies should be severly punished for their crimes…YES crimes,

  • Anonymous

    Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
    Samuel Johnson

  • Anonymous

    Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
    Samuel Johnson

  • Anonymous

    If Chuck wants to take a leadership role in advocating and representing Maine Voters
    and Democracy he would have collated the research literature now available regarding voter  fraud and generated a AMBER ALERT system for local and county government to use and prevent voter fraud in Maine. How hard is it to cite cases of voter fraud and the technology used to commit it? For god’s sake even the Bangor Daily News could carry out this task.
    “Ain’t that saying somthum”
    The Secretary of State has always been the liaison and point man when
    legislation is needed in his department.
    What Maine voters don’t understand that the hacks in Augusta are part of a crime family
    and clamping down on voter fraud would level the playing field.
    I don’t know about you but I have been unable to distinguish between Republican and Democrat  for a long long long long long time.
    Both parties now belong to the one party system called Corporations.
    Chuckie even has a sub division in his Secretary of State office called Department of Corporations.
     
     Chuck could easily build his case at Hackarama for the need to make voter fraud crimes a class 1 Felony with mandatory 20 year  prison sentences.
    Did I mention in my original post above that when Leonard Gates was committing voter
    for the FBI  that lawsuits were brought against Cincinnati Bell and during the trial in the discovery phase it was revealed that FBI  agents and the local police had torched and burnt down the Independent Eye?
    They torched the office of the local alternative newspaper called THE INDEPENDENT EYE .
    We decided to bring the editor of the newspaper Mike Avey , to speak at Bates College. Avey who was now a Professor of Political Science at Lander University told the audience he was able to successfully sue the Cincinnati Police for arson. But, his lawyer suddenly quit in the middle of the trial Avey brought against the FBI  for arson. A couple years after Avey spoke at Bates I called him to get updated about his lawsuit against the FBI. He told me he could not find an attorney to take the case. He also told me he recently woke up in the middle of the night to see a figure standing at the foot of his bed. He bedroom burst into flames and his home was a total loss.
    For more about Mike Avey google  mike avey lander  
    Or see link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=960&bih=451&q=mike+avey+lander&oq=mike+avey+lander&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1043692l1051004l1l1052059l21l21l5l8l8l0l389l1521l3.1.3.1l8l0

  • Anonymous

    Investigate what? There was never any evidence of voter fraud. This was just a fishing expedition. And the Secretary of State knows it.

  • Anonymous

    Here is the ironic part. The reaction at UMaine is a greatly increased effort to get students registered early. It is very likely that more students will turn out in record numbers for the next election than would have if none of this had happened. I suspect Crazy Charlie will have a little splainin to do when that happens. 

  • Anonymous

    An allegation of voter fraud was made, it was investigated, it was found to be unfounded, end of story on voter fraud.

  • Anonymous

    There was no evidence on which to launch an investigation. The whole pupose of this highly publicized “investigation” was to undermine the Citizens’ Veto petition. Period.

  • Anonymous

    Good, that is how it should be.

  • Anonymous

    It depends. Are you a Democrat? If you are, then according to Mr. Summers, no.

  • Anonymous

      To the issue of intent, it is absolutely clear that this is all propaganda – fear-mongering – on the part of the Republican Party intended to deter the likely citizen’s referendum from over-turning the restrictive voting that the GOP-controlled state government passed in the last legislative session.  This is their part of a national campaign being carried out at the state level, funded by the Hard Right (ALEC, the billionaire Libertarian Koch brothers & others), and the fact that Webster et al think we are buying this little charade of there actually being a problem with voter fraud in Maine (with 2-3 confirmed cases in over thirty years) is indicative of how stupid they think we voters are. If you have any question that such is the case, google “voter suppression” and see what it turns up (one of which will be a recent Washington Post  op-ed by Herald Myerson titled “The GOP is trying to rig the electoral college.”)These sorts of restrictions have their roots in the Jim Crow voting laws of the Old Democratic South. When Nixon undertook his racist – and successful – “Southern Strategy” intended to bring those Democrats alienated by pro-civil rights legislation into the GOP, I left the Republican Party, as I felt it dishonored that party’s history & heritage.  It pains me to see the GOP still utilizing – not just in the South, but nationally – these voter suppression techniques.    A minor but practical issue is the question the BDN offers us.  Their polls too often offer the dumbest questions, and even with a meaningful one such as this, do so with lackadaisical cognition resulting in a poorly written question.    Is it asking if the legislation already passed that restricts voting registration was needed, or whether there is legislation (or a referendum?) needed to overthrow said unnecessary legislation ?  With this unclariy, the “outcome” of this poll is meaningless…they should reword and reoffer it, as it is on an important matter.That’s my opinion.

  • Anonymous

    They have ALREADY changed the law! 
     

  • Anonymous

    So let me get this straight.

    A political party is successful in passing a new law which eliminates same day voter registration which the Governor signs into law. The people of the state disagree with one part of the new law and gather enough signatures to force a “People’s Veto” vote in November.

    So the political party, knowing that there is no voter fraud produce Voter Registration Cards and say they have evidence of voter fraud and demand an investigation. The Secretary of State investigates the allegations and evidence and says, in effect no voter fraud occurred.

    So, knowing that the result of the investigation will show no voter fraud occurred the p0litical party believed a “highly publicized “investigation”" would undermine the “People’s Veto”?

    Wow, that is some sound logic.

  • Anonymous

    Actually homes in Maine, Conneticut & the D.C. area.  The hotel in Texas was totally a front so that he could be elected to Congress from Texas. 
     

  • Anonymous

    Actually homes in Maine, Conneticut & the D.C. area.  The hotel in Texas was totally a front so that he could be elected to Congress from Texas. 
     

  • Anonymous

    And these medical students came back to Maine to get away from the hurricane because Maine is where most of the spend about a year doing their 4th-year clinical training,  so it wouldn’t be really unusual for them to vote.  I spent a year attending school in another state, and voted…it was a presidential election & I hadn’t thought in time to get a Maine absentee ballot.

  • Anonymous

    And these medical students came back to Maine to get away from the hurricane because Maine is where most of the spend about a year doing their 4th-year clinical training,  so it wouldn’t be really unusual for them to vote.  I spent a year attending school in another state, and voted…it was a presidential election & I hadn’t thought in time to get a Maine absentee ballot.

  • Anonymous

    Starting with Matt Dunlap and those students!  If he is a man of integrity and decency, he will do this as publicly as his suggestions of wrongdoing were.

  • Anonymous

    And what of the family that loses their house in a fire, and end up holed up at the Econo or someplace?  Regardless of what type of housing you have, if you are a citizen, you can vote.  That is the law.  That is the constitution.  If ya don’t like it, you are in the wrong place, neighbor.  Further, no evidence same day registration has resulted in any fraud. 

  • Anonymous

    One out of millions of votes cast in the last 9 years.  so for that we want to disenfranchise tens of thousands of voters and not let them have their say.  That doesn’t sound like democracy to me.  As to the conspiracy theory, yes Timjy, they are out there and they are coming for you next!

  • Anonymous

    One out of millions of votes cast in the last 9 years.  so for that we want to disenfranchise tens of thousands of voters and not let them have their say.  That doesn’t sound like democracy to me.  As to the conspiracy theory, yes Timjy, they are out there and they are coming for you next!

  • Anonymous

    One out of millions of votes cast in the last 9 years.  so for that we want to disenfranchise tens of thousands of voters and not let them have their say.  That doesn’t sound like democracy to me.  As to the conspiracy theory, yes Timjy, they are out there and they are coming for you next!

  • Anonymous

    One out of millions of votes cast in the last 9 years.  so for that we want to disenfranchise tens of thousands of voters and not let them have their say.  That doesn’t sound like democracy to me.  As to the conspiracy theory, yes Timjy, they are out there and they are coming for you next!

  • Anonymous

    If it is serious for you, maybe it is for those who are students, or live in motels, or those who can’t afford ID, or those who don’t have ID…..Why are your rights worth more than theirs?

  • Anonymous

    If it is serious for you, maybe it is for those who are students, or live in motels, or those who can’t afford ID, or those who don’t have ID…..Why are your rights worth more than theirs?

  • Anonymous

    If it is serious for you, maybe it is for those who are students, or live in motels, or those who can’t afford ID, or those who don’t have ID…..Why are your rights worth more than theirs?

  • Anonymous

    If it is serious for you, maybe it is for those who are students, or live in motels, or those who can’t afford ID, or those who don’t have ID…..Why are your rights worth more than theirs?

  • Anonymous

    Just drives ya nuts that the democrats have a better record on the economy and debt, doesn’t it. 

  • Anonymous

    Just drives ya nuts that the democrats have a better record on the economy and debt, doesn’t it. 

  • Anonymous

    Just drives ya nuts that the democrats have a better record on the economy and debt, doesn’t it. 

  • Anonymous

    Just drives ya nuts that the democrats have a better record on the economy and debt, doesn’t it. 

  • Anonymous

    Slight error on ALEC, American Legislative Exchange Council.  It is important to get this right.  they are one of the ways that two people, Charles and David Koch, are trying to change the America we love into one of their making.  Massive direct campaign contributions and gift-giving to the supreme court are some other ways these men are trying to take your America away.

  • Anonymous

    Slight error on ALEC, American Legislative Exchange Council.  It is important to get this right.  they are one of the ways that two people, Charles and David Koch, are trying to change the America we love into one of their making.  Massive direct campaign contributions and gift-giving to the supreme court are some other ways these men are trying to take your America away.

  • Anonymous

    Slight error on ALEC, American Legislative Exchange Council.  It is important to get this right.  they are one of the ways that two people, Charles and David Koch, are trying to change the America we love into one of their making.  Massive direct campaign contributions and gift-giving to the supreme court are some other ways these men are trying to take your America away.

  • Anonymous

    Slight error on ALEC, American Legislative Exchange Council.  It is important to get this right.  they are one of the ways that two people, Charles and David Koch, are trying to change the America we love into one of their making.  Massive direct campaign contributions and gift-giving to the supreme court are some other ways these men are trying to take your America away.

  • Anonymous

    They have changed the law already (for now), and yet Summers has “vowed to submit legislation in January to fix some of the problems.”   How do you fix non-existant problems? In true Republican fashion, make it up, then legislate it!

  • Anonymous

    They have changed the law already (for now), and yet Summers has “vowed to submit legislation in January to fix some of the problems.”   How do you fix non-existant problems? In true Republican fashion, make it up, then legislate it!

  • Anonymous

    They have changed the law already (for now), and yet Summers has “vowed to submit legislation in January to fix some of the problems.”   How do you fix non-existant problems? In true Republican fashion, make it up, then legislate it!

  • Anonymous

    They have changed the law already (for now), and yet Summers has “vowed to submit legislation in January to fix some of the problems.”   How do you fix non-existant problems? In true Republican fashion, make it up, then legislate it!

  • Anonymous

    you do realize that 1% of voters total was investigated.

  • Anonymous

    you do realize that 1% of voters total was investigated.

  • Anonymous

    you do realize that 1% of voters total was investigated.

  • Anonymous

    you do realize that 1% of voters total was investigated.

  • Anonymous

    type slow facts are tough for liberals to read.

  • Anonymous

    type slow facts are tough for liberals to read.

  • Anonymous

    type slow facts are tough for liberals to read.

  • Anonymous

    type slow facts are tough for liberals to read.

  • newportres

    No, I am comparing political flunkies who have the same mindset.
    No sense doing anything to prevent bad things right?

  • newportres

    Balkans?
    You actually want to compare that or anything that took place under Clinton to the Bush years?
    Get a grip!
    As for the things I posted which have been refuted please feel free to post a link to your spin.  I was in the military during Reagan, Bush1, and Clinton.  I know what Clinton did to the military in order to achive his savings and I believe his actions or inaction is what lead to 9/11.
    When you appear weak you invite attack.
    He left us weaker than I had ever seen us since Carter.

  • newportres

    Considering the Dems created the problems we have now with the economy I’m thinking you actually live somewhere near the center of la la land.
    But hey, however you want to spin it to make yourself feel better about destroying this country.

  • Anonymous

    I do believe there was the use of planes in the former Yugoslavia. I’m sure that if Bush were in office we would have had troops on the ground.
    He also cut back on Welfare.
    If getting a BJ helps in balancing the budget then we should have hired someone to take care of Bush while he was in office.

  • Anonymous

    Repealing same day voter registration does not do anything to prevent voter fraud, though.

  • Anonymous

    Your attempt to blame all the ills of the world on the welfare recipient is a tired and pathetic talking point, give it up.     
    ******************************************
    and your attempt at attacking me with baseless, false and unfounded accusations is tired and pathetic…give it up already.

  • Anonymous

    The surest way to retreat to the 1840′s is to pursue Ron Paul type policies that harken back to that era,
    ***************************************************
    and what would those policies be, exactly?

  • Anonymous

    What on earth are you talking about? Put the salts down and get a job…do something USEFUL instead of spewing garbage on the BDN.  btw, would you call your mother a co(k$ucker?

  • Anonymous

    People work 2 or 3 jobs because 1 job doesn’t pay a worker enough to buy all the stuff advertising tells them they need. However, with luck, you can become a CEO making many times that and use the extra to form PACs to buy politicians (R and D) to protect your assets. It’s your right under the Constitution to do that.
    ******************************************
    OR…you COULD grow up and learn how to control your spending…perhaps you could buy your food from the poster above called “sasmo”.  I’m under the impression that “sasmo” doesn’t advertise, so you need not fear being forced to BUY something that you don’t need—AND you’d be helping your neighbor or at least fellow Mainer.

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be a voting violation or requirement for voting. The Supreme Court decision will rule that out. They won’t be prevented from voting. They could be cited for violations of Dept of Motor Vehicle laws and possibly Maine Income Tax laws though I doubt there will be any Income tax problems unless you get a rich trust fund kid that changed his/her residence to Maine. Many people get in income tax trouble by doing things that indicate they are residents but fail to file a return (I know…I make money representing them). Students would not be singled out but treated like anyone else. As they can still vote I don’t see it as a hurdle. They should be doing what is required of any resident such as getting driver license etc

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be a voting violation or requirement for voting. The Supreme Court decision will rule that out. They won’t be prevented from voting. They could be cited for violations of Dept of Motor Vehicle laws and possibly Maine Income Tax laws though I doubt there will be any Income tax problems unless you get a rich trust fund kid that changed his/her residence to Maine. Many people get in income tax trouble by doing things that indicate they are residents but fail to file a return (I know…I make money representing them). Students would not be singled out but treated like anyone else. As they can still vote I don’t see it as a hurdle. They should be doing what is required of any resident such as getting driver license etc

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be a voting violation or requirement for voting. The Supreme Court decision will rule that out. They won’t be prevented from voting. They could be cited for violations of Dept of Motor Vehicle laws and possibly Maine Income Tax laws though I doubt there will be any Income tax problems unless you get a rich trust fund kid that changed his/her residence to Maine. Many people get in income tax trouble by doing things that indicate they are residents but fail to file a return (I know…I make money representing them). Students would not be singled out but treated like anyone else. As they can still vote I don’t see it as a hurdle. They should be doing what is required of any resident such as getting driver license etc

  • Anonymous

    Errors do NOT denote fraud.     
    *******************************
    I NEVER SAID THEY DID.  sheesh, you really need to learn reading comprehension.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus will be walking down Main St. in Bangor before that happens.     
    *********************************************
    where have you been?  I saw him walking down past Shaw’s last spring…carrying his cross (the base was on wheels, though) and a backpack.  Saw him the next morning, walking past the Catholic Church in Winterport.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus will be walking down Main St. in Bangor before that happens.     
    *********************************************
    where have you been?  I saw him walking down past Shaw’s last spring…carrying his cross (the base was on wheels, though) and a backpack.  Saw him the next morning, walking past the Catholic Church in Winterport.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus will be walking down Main St. in Bangor before that happens.     
    *********************************************
    where have you been?  I saw him walking down past Shaw’s last spring…carrying his cross (the base was on wheels, though) and a backpack.  Saw him the next morning, walking past the Catholic Church in Winterport.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll remember that when I’m in shackles in the cattle car headed for the private work prison. “Stooooooopid”

  • Anonymous

    I’ll remember that when I’m in shackles in the cattle car headed for the private work prison. “Stooooooopid”

  • Anonymous

    Nope, I’m still terrified by what you guys have hooked up with. It gets very hot in cattle cars and those shackles on my ankles are going to be murder on my arthritis. Let’s see if when you meet me face to face in the private work prison you have the balls to say hi and tell me who you are.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, I’m still terrified by what you guys have hooked up with. It gets very hot in cattle cars and those shackles on my ankles are going to be murder on my arthritis. Let’s see if when you meet me face to face in the private work prison you have the balls to say hi and tell me who you are.

  • Anonymous

    He needs professional help. It’s not funny. But it’s not OK for the public to go on pretending Charlie doesn’t have a serious mental health problem that requires stabilization and probably medication. Where are his friends? Why doesn’t anyone push him to get help?

  • Anonymous

    He needs professional help. It’s not funny. But it’s not OK for the public to go on pretending Charlie doesn’t have a serious mental health problem that requires stabilization and probably medication. Where are his friends? Why doesn’t anyone push him to get help?

  • Anonymous

    He needs professional help. It’s not funny. But it’s not OK for the public to go on pretending Charlie doesn’t have a serious mental health problem that requires stabilization and probably medication. Where are his friends? Why doesn’t anyone push him to get help?

  • Anonymous

    He needs professional help. It’s not funny. But it’s not OK for the public to go on pretending Charlie doesn’t have a serious mental health problem that requires stabilization and probably medication. Where are his friends? Why doesn’t anyone push him to get help?

  • Anonymous

    He needs professional help. It’s not funny. But it’s not OK for the public to go on pretending Charlie doesn’t have a serious mental health problem that requires stabilization and probably medication. Where are his friends? Why doesn’t anyone push him to get help?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree that we should keep investigating things Charlie Webster says. His psychiatrist can figure that out. But I agree with the rest of  your post. I’ve spoken with clerks in the town office, and they want to keep same day registration. That’s because they know the people of their town and want them to be able to vote if they show up to vote. They also will have the nasty duty of telling people they can’t vote. Has anyone thought about that??

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree that we should keep investigating things Charlie Webster says. His psychiatrist can figure that out. But I agree with the rest of  your post. I’ve spoken with clerks in the town office, and they want to keep same day registration. That’s because they know the people of their town and want them to be able to vote if they show up to vote. They also will have the nasty duty of telling people they can’t vote. Has anyone thought about that??

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree that we should keep investigating things Charlie Webster says. His psychiatrist can figure that out. But I agree with the rest of  your post. I’ve spoken with clerks in the town office, and they want to keep same day registration. That’s because they know the people of their town and want them to be able to vote if they show up to vote. They also will have the nasty duty of telling people they can’t vote. Has anyone thought about that??

  • Anonymous

    So do YOU realize that excluding illegal aliens, 1oo X o = o % of American citizens committing  voter fraud with same day resistration, and illegal aliens are a federal, not a  state issue ?

     :  )

  • Anonymous

    So do YOU realize that excluding illegal aliens, 1oo X o = o % of American citizens committing  voter fraud with same day resistration, and illegal aliens are a federal, not a  state issue ?

     :  )

  • Anonymous

    So do YOU realize that excluding illegal aliens, 1oo X o = o % of American citizens committing  voter fraud with same day resistration, and illegal aliens are a federal, not a  state issue ?

     :  )

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there.  a lot of the are older Americans.  I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls.  those volunteers are what make the system work.  

    so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls.  i don’t believe more laws fix the system.  i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.

    we can’t expect politicians do it for us.  we have to *show up*

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there.  a lot of the are older Americans.  I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls.  those volunteers are what make the system work.  

    so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls.  i don’t believe more laws fix the system.  i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.

    we can’t expect politicians do it for us.  we have to *show up*

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there.  a lot of the are older Americans.  I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls.  those volunteers are what make the system work.  

    so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls.  i don’t believe more laws fix the system.  i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.

    we can’t expect politicians do it for us.  we have to *show up*

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there.  a lot of the are older Americans.  I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls.  those volunteers are what make the system work.  

    so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls.  i don’t believe more laws fix the system.  i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.

    we can’t expect politicians do it for us.  we have to *show up*

  • Anonymous

    My comprehension is just fine thank you, the article states ‘He said he was especially concerned about the workload of municipal clerks on Election Day and the potential for error.’ No examples from the Secretary were given, and the oppreative word in his statement was “potential”. What sources of evidence do you present that prove a corruption of the vote due to clerical errors?

  • Anonymous

    My comprehension is just fine thank you, the article states ‘He said he was especially concerned about the workload of municipal clerks on Election Day and the potential for error.’ No examples from the Secretary were given, and the oppreative word in his statement was “potential”. What sources of evidence do you present that prove a corruption of the vote due to clerical errors?

  • Anonymous

    My comprehension is just fine thank you, the article states ‘He said he was especially concerned about the workload of municipal clerks on Election Day and the potential for error.’ No examples from the Secretary were given, and the oppreative word in his statement was “potential”. What sources of evidence do you present that prove a corruption of the vote due to clerical errors?

  • Anonymous

    My comprehension is just fine thank you, the article states ‘He said he was especially concerned about the workload of municipal clerks on Election Day and the potential for error.’ No examples from the Secretary were given, and the oppreative word in his statement was “potential”. What sources of evidence do you present that prove a corruption of the vote due to clerical errors?

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there. a lot of the are older Americans. I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls. those volunteers are what make the system work. so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls. i don’t believe more laws fix the system. i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.we can’t expect politicians do it for us. we have to *show up* 
    **************************************************** 
    You’re right, we have to show up!    I just wonder about some people who DO show up, though.  When we moved to Maine, it was about a month before Town Meeting.  We were shocked to find out that we could register AND vote on the same day, and that Maine had same-day registration for voting in the primary and general elections. We registered after Town Meeting and obviously didn’t vote at Town Meeting because we didn’t really know enough about those who were running for town office.  When we went to vote in the general election later that year, we were shocked to learn we didn’t have to show I.D. to vote—just give our name to the clerk….I said “wait, you don’t know me personally, how can you be sure I am who I claim to be?”  She said “oh, we never ask for I.D.”  (it wasn’t an answer, but I thought at the time that it would be SO easy to scam here…)  I thought about it alot since the latest election that overturned the same-sex marriage bill.  Think about it—for a couple weeks up until the election, the No on One side showed a lead in the polls.  On election night, as the results came in, No on One had a decent lead.  Then, all of a sudden, the rural area results came in, and the law was overturned by a 6% margin of loss.  The turnout was higher than normal.  Since the Yes on One side was funded heavily by out-of-state interests, and many ‘flatlanders’ that supported it came in to Maine just before the election to picket, I can easily believe that there were quite a few ‘flatlanders’ that took advantage of same-day registration and not having to show I.D. to vote Yes on One.

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there. a lot of the are older Americans. I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls. those volunteers are what make the system work. so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls. i don’t believe more laws fix the system. i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.we can’t expect politicians do it for us. we have to *show up* 
    **************************************************** 
    You’re right, we have to show up!    I just wonder about some people who DO show up, though.  When we moved to Maine, it was about a month before Town Meeting.  We were shocked to find out that we could register AND vote on the same day, and that Maine had same-day registration for voting in the primary and general elections. We registered after Town Meeting and obviously didn’t vote at Town Meeting because we didn’t really know enough about those who were running for town office.  When we went to vote in the general election later that year, we were shocked to learn we didn’t have to show I.D. to vote—just give our name to the clerk….I said “wait, you don’t know me personally, how can you be sure I am who I claim to be?”  She said “oh, we never ask for I.D.”  (it wasn’t an answer, but I thought at the time that it would be SO easy to scam here…)  I thought about it alot since the latest election that overturned the same-sex marriage bill.  Think about it—for a couple weeks up until the election, the No on One side showed a lead in the polls.  On election night, as the results came in, No on One had a decent lead.  Then, all of a sudden, the rural area results came in, and the law was overturned by a 6% margin of loss.  The turnout was higher than normal.  Since the Yes on One side was funded heavily by out-of-state interests, and many ‘flatlanders’ that supported it came in to Maine just before the election to picket, I can easily believe that there were quite a few ‘flatlanders’ that took advantage of same-day registration and not having to show I.D. to vote Yes on One.

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there. a lot of the are older Americans. I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls. those volunteers are what make the system work. so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls. i don’t believe more laws fix the system. i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.we can’t expect politicians do it for us. we have to *show up* 
    **************************************************** 
    You’re right, we have to show up!    I just wonder about some people who DO show up, though.  When we moved to Maine, it was about a month before Town Meeting.  We were shocked to find out that we could register AND vote on the same day, and that Maine had same-day registration for voting in the primary and general elections. We registered after Town Meeting and obviously didn’t vote at Town Meeting because we didn’t really know enough about those who were running for town office.  When we went to vote in the general election later that year, we were shocked to learn we didn’t have to show I.D. to vote—just give our name to the clerk….I said “wait, you don’t know me personally, how can you be sure I am who I claim to be?”  She said “oh, we never ask for I.D.”  (it wasn’t an answer, but I thought at the time that it would be SO easy to scam here…)  I thought about it alot since the latest election that overturned the same-sex marriage bill.  Think about it—for a couple weeks up until the election, the No on One side showed a lead in the polls.  On election night, as the results came in, No on One had a decent lead.  Then, all of a sudden, the rural area results came in, and the law was overturned by a 6% margin of loss.  The turnout was higher than normal.  Since the Yes on One side was funded heavily by out-of-state interests, and many ‘flatlanders’ that supported it came in to Maine just before the election to picket, I can easily believe that there were quite a few ‘flatlanders’ that took advantage of same-day registration and not having to show I.D. to vote Yes on One.

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there. a lot of the are older Americans. I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls. those volunteers are what make the system work. so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls. i don’t believe more laws fix the system. i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.we can’t expect politicians do it for us. we have to *show up* 
    **************************************************** 
    You’re right, we have to show up!    I just wonder about some people who DO show up, though.  When we moved to Maine, it was about a month before Town Meeting.  We were shocked to find out that we could register AND vote on the same day, and that Maine had same-day registration for voting in the primary and general elections. We registered after Town Meeting and obviously didn’t vote at Town Meeting because we didn’t really know enough about those who were running for town office.  When we went to vote in the general election later that year, we were shocked to learn we didn’t have to show I.D. to vote—just give our name to the clerk….I said “wait, you don’t know me personally, how can you be sure I am who I claim to be?”  She said “oh, we never ask for I.D.”  (it wasn’t an answer, but I thought at the time that it would be SO easy to scam here…)  I thought about it alot since the latest election that overturned the same-sex marriage bill.  Think about it—for a couple weeks up until the election, the No on One side showed a lead in the polls.  On election night, as the results came in, No on One had a decent lead.  Then, all of a sudden, the rural area results came in, and the law was overturned by a 6% margin of loss.  The turnout was higher than normal.  Since the Yes on One side was funded heavily by out-of-state interests, and many ‘flatlanders’ that supported it came in to Maine just before the election to picket, I can easily believe that there were quite a few ‘flatlanders’ that took advantage of same-day registration and not having to show I.D. to vote Yes on One.

  • Anonymous

    i go to the polls and am always impressed with the volunteers there. a lot of the are older Americans. I have noticed in recent years also, new citizens volunteering at the polls. those volunteers are what make the system work. so, i don’t believe in a laws standing in the way of the voter and the polls. i don’t believe more laws fix the system. i believe when citizens *fully* participate, is when we have the best system.we can’t expect politicians do it for us. we have to *show up* 
    **************************************************** 
    You’re right, we have to show up!    I just wonder about some people who DO show up, though.  When we moved to Maine, it was about a month before Town Meeting.  We were shocked to find out that we could register AND vote on the same day, and that Maine had same-day registration for voting in the primary and general elections. We registered after Town Meeting and obviously didn’t vote at Town Meeting because we didn’t really know enough about those who were running for town office.  When we went to vote in the general election later that year, we were shocked to learn we didn’t have to show I.D. to vote—just give our name to the clerk….I said “wait, you don’t know me personally, how can you be sure I am who I claim to be?”  She said “oh, we never ask for I.D.”  (it wasn’t an answer, but I thought at the time that it would be SO easy to scam here…)  I thought about it alot since the latest election that overturned the same-sex marriage bill.  Think about it—for a couple weeks up until the election, the No on One side showed a lead in the polls.  On election night, as the results came in, No on One had a decent lead.  Then, all of a sudden, the rural area results came in, and the law was overturned by a 6% margin of loss.  The turnout was higher than normal.  Since the Yes on One side was funded heavily by out-of-state interests, and many ‘flatlanders’ that supported it came in to Maine just before the election to picket, I can easily believe that there were quite a few ‘flatlanders’ that took advantage of same-day registration and not having to show I.D. to vote Yes on One.

  • Anonymous

    That would be too much like work. Count Charlie out.

  • Anonymous

    My comprehension is just fine thank you, the article states ‘He said he was especially concerned about the workload of municipal clerks on Election Day and the potential for error.’ No examples from the Secretary were given, and the oppreative word in his statement was “potential”. What sources of evidence do you present that prove a corruption of the vote due to clerical errors?     
    **********************************************************
    as I said before—the BDN didn’t give “the rest of the story”.  WLBZ News reported on the press conference.  The news reported that Summers investigation revealed that numerous clerical errors were made and that 87% of those errors occurred on election day registrations.  I said that since the clerks are “rushed” of course the room for error is greater, and the investigation in fact proved just that.  So, I don’t know where you get the idea that “no examples were given” from Summers.  again, I never said or implied that errors denote fraud—why do you keep insisting I did?  ERRORS, like the ones given as examples by a prior poster (party affiliation, being one) can cause many problems.  What happens when you don’t get to vote in the primary because the clerk wrote down your party affiliation as, say, Reform instead of Democrat(ic)?  Since the Reform Party doesn’t have enough voters to have a primary candidate on the ballot, YOU don’t get to vote for your Democratic candidate in the primary—especially if you get there at 7:30pm.

  • Anonymous

    My comprehension is just fine thank you, the article states ‘He said he was especially concerned about the workload of municipal clerks on Election Day and the potential for error.’ No examples from the Secretary were given, and the oppreative word in his statement was “potential”. What sources of evidence do you present that prove a corruption of the vote due to clerical errors?     
    **********************************************************
    as I said before—the BDN didn’t give “the rest of the story”.  WLBZ News reported on the press conference.  The news reported that Summers investigation revealed that numerous clerical errors were made and that 87% of those errors occurred on election day registrations.  I said that since the clerks are “rushed” of course the room for error is greater, and the investigation in fact proved just that.  So, I don’t know where you get the idea that “no examples were given” from Summers.  again, I never said or implied that errors denote fraud—why do you keep insisting I did?  ERRORS, like the ones given as examples by a prior poster (party affiliation, being one) can cause many problems.  What happens when you don’t get to vote in the primary because the clerk wrote down your party affiliation as, say, Reform instead of Democrat(ic)?  Since the Reform Party doesn’t have enough voters to have a primary candidate on the ballot, YOU don’t get to vote for your Democratic candidate in the primary—especially if you get there at 7:30pm.

  • Anonymous

    And don’t forget radical redistricting and hurting unions and their funding are also part of the nationwide GOP scam to rig elections in their favor. 

    It’s time America wakes up and signs onto the SAVE AMERICA PLEDGE: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN EVER AGAIN.

  • Anonymous

    And don’t forget radical redistricting and hurting unions and their funding are also part of the nationwide GOP scam to rig elections in their favor. 

    It’s time America wakes up and signs onto the SAVE AMERICA PLEDGE: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN EVER AGAIN.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t type, conservatives already know it all. You’re going to have to decide when it’s important enough to kill them.

  • Anonymous

    I love this post. It gives us a peephole into your soggy brain. The clerks don’t ask for ID only if they don’t know you (like they do in most of Maine). We already have voter registration. We just have numb nuts wanting to keep people from voting that don’t so many days before they vote, sheer stupidity. 

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you. I think it’s horrifying that you can vote at all, never-mind vote in Maine. If you knew better and had a conscience you would have refrained from voting until you knew your ast from a hole in the ground. Sounds like you didn’t.  

    After all, isn’t this what the voting laws are all about? I think there should be a test you’d have to take, which you would fail hands down every time.  But you have the privilege of voting where I was born and grew up. 

    In fact, you’ve been so horribly rude, insulting, and obnoxious, why don’t you move your flatland arses back where you came from?? We don’t need you, never-mind need your opinion on whether or not we can vote.

  • Anonymous

    The top 10 thousandth of us get it. Southern Maine GOB joined the Church of the Subgenius in the winter of 2010 and owes their souls to Bob. You kids up in the county didn’t get sucked in by that nutty contagious crap. Still, we’d love it if you’d help us stuff them in a meat grinder about now.

  • Anonymous

    There’s no shame in admitting you have a problem and need help. Medicaid paid for those wheels AND the backpack and maybe Charlie the loose cannon Webster can get LePage to have this fraud investigated. Keep taking your medication.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie has a bigger duty to refrain from abusing his power as the Speaker for the Republicans in the legislature. If you or I had made these nutty allegations they wouldn’t have been given a thought, never mind a full investigation. I’d be happy to see him return to public office once he produces a doctors certification of FITNESS FOR DUTY. Otherwise, someone’s got to tell him he can’t keep coming into the State House.

    Either way, criminal charges should be prosecuted if warranted.

  • Anonymous

    Or produce a doctor’s note certifying him fit for duty.

  • Anonymous

    Meaning borrowed money, or stolen from pensioners.

  • Anonymous

    Koch is pronounced “Coke” and is a proper name for those of you who object to me using the name.

  • Anonymous

    I lived out of the state for about 25 years and, like you, was surprised that my ID was not checked when I arrived to vote.

    But I grew up here, and the shock wore off like my sun tan.

    Re:  out of staters involved in Maine issues.   there are Americans protesting on Wall Street right now, other Americans protesting the Tar Sands drilling, and still other Americans who took buses to Washington DC for a tea party rally.  So, I do not have a problem with people from other States showing an interest in our politics.  We are a country, after all.

    as to your final comment about same-day voter fraud, this is my feeling:  1.  we have a long and respected history of expanding voter rights;  2.  since there has been no voter fraud ever proven, I do not think we need to create more laws that stand between the voter and the polls.

    i thought the GOP was the party of less regulation?

  • Anonymous

    Sorry my sarcasm wasn’t clear.  I grow my own food, share it with family and friends.  Spending is minimal, but the physical work has it’s own rewards.  I would imagine that Sasmo and I may have much in common.   – Peace.

  • Anonymous

    Honey, I said what I thought.  If you want to twist it into something that suits your illusion, that’s entirely up to you.  Troll on, dear.

  • Anonymous

    Except if its the former mayor of New York,  then its pronounced “Kawtch”, or we can have fun with the name and pronounce it the way that suits its owners . . . lol. 

  • Anonymous

    “I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department.” Joe McCarthy 1950.

  • Anonymous

    That is simply not true. The problems began with Reagan and grew much worse under GW Bush. You often post stuff that isn’t true. Are you repeating Rush Limbaugh and thinking he is telling the truth? If so, it is no wonder you seem to know so much that is not right. You need to change the station.

  • Anonymous

    “It is always a waste of money to investigate a baseless allegation that is entirely without evidence.”

    But doing so is pattern of behavior in the LePage Administration.
    Send them an email, and drop a dime on whatever you  don’t like  … but mostly it works best if you’e a smart ALEC and  have already dropped the max in political contributions to them, too.

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