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Charles Webster, chairman of the Maine Republican Party
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Charles Webster, chairman of the Maine Republican Party

AUGUSTA, Maine — Charlie Webster sounds a lot like LeRoy Symm.

Symm, the registrar of voters in Waller County, Texas, had a special questionnaire he used for college students. It included questions such as: Do you own property in the county? Where did you attend church? What are your job plans?

If Symm and his deputies knew a voter by name and face, they were simply registered. College students had to pass Symm’s test. The U.S. Supreme Court in 1979 said this violated the Constitution, thereby establishing the practice of allowing college students to list their dormitory as their residence for the purposes of voting.

Three decades later, the ruling has not deterred Webster, the Maine Republican Party chairman, who weeks ago brandished a list of more than 200 college students he said likely engaged in voter fraud.

“I get tired of talking about this because the law is clear,” Webster said this week. “If I want to vote, I need to establish residency. I need to register my car and pay taxes in that community. You can’t just become a student and vote wherever you want.”

The law is fairly clear, but that’s not what it says.

According to Maine’s Secretary of State’s Office, three things are required of registered voters: They must be a U.S. citizen, they must have established and maintained a residence in the municipality where the person intends to register to vote, and they must be at least 17 to register or 18 to vote.

Citizenship and age are easily addressed. Residence is trickier.

Students have the right to register in the municipality where they attend school as long as they have established residency. They are then subject to the same residency requirements but cannot be asked to meet additional requirements.

Determining established residency is left to municipal clerks and they can consider the following factors in determining established residency: a direct statement or oath, a motor vehicle registration, an income tax return, a piece of mail listing a current address or any other objective facts.

Despite Webster’s beliefs, though, none of these elements are required.

Furthermore, in 2008 then-Attorney General Steven Rowe issued an opinion about this matter in connection with a Republican-backed bill that sought to prohibit college students living on campus from registering to vote in that community.

That bill ultimately failed, but Rowe’s opinion was that the responsibility of determining a voter’s residence lies with municipal voting officials. He also said any state law prohibiting students living in dormitories to assert that it is their residence would be deemed unconstitutional, because of the Symm case.

Consider the case of Christopher Knoblock. He is among the 206 out-of-state students on the list submitted in July by Webster to the secretary of state for investigation of voter fraud. That list of names was obtained by the Bangor Daily News from the Secretary of State’s Office through a Freedom of Information request.

Knoblock, a native of Belmont, Mass., first registered to vote in his hometown and state in 2007 after he turned 18. He then voted in Massachusetts in the February 2008 presidential primary.

In the fall of 2008, Knoblock attended the University of Maine and lived on campus. In November of that year, he wanted to vote in the general presidential election. So he registered on campus in Orono.

It never occurred to him to unregister in his hometown, and there is no legal obligation to do so. Updating of voter rolls by towns and the state is meant to capture people who have moved from one community to another and automatically delete those who have registered in a new community.

The next summer, Knoblock was still a student at UMaine and voted in the state’s same-sex marriage referendum.

He moved off campus shortly after that. When the next election came up, in November 2010, Knoblock voted back home in Massachusetts. He never unregistered in Orono.

“I’m surprised to be on this list and I’m surprised that it’s an issue that I voted in Maine at all,” he said. “We were encouraged to vote when we were on campus, and we were told that voting on campus was legal. I think this unfairly targets out-of-state students, as it’s much harder for those of us who are out of state to vote via absentee.”

Orono Town Clerk Wanda Thomas confirmed that Knoblock voted in Maine in 2008 and 2009 but not in 2010. A clerk in Belmont, Mass., confirmed that Knoblock voted there last fall.

While voting officials don’t like the fact that someone can be registered in two different places at the same time, it does not constitute fraud.

“It’s actually fairly common and not just with college students,” said Ellen O’Brien Cushman, town clerk in Knoblock’s hometown of Belmont, Mass. “Municipalities do their very best to verify residency, but it’s not necessarily the responsibility of a voter to unregister.”

Many of the 206 names on Webster’s list, however, probably never should have been on the list in the first place. Notes attached to the list of names containing comments from Webster indicate that as many as half of them never registered in their home states.

Presumably, those students registered for the first time in Maine, voted in the November 2010 election and therefore committed no fraud.

That was the case for Justin Lynch, a third-year UMaine student from Ballston Spa, N.Y. Lynch said he, too, was surprised to be on the list because he doesn’t believe he did anything wrong. He called the claims by Webster, “a shocking act of government intimidating young people.”

“I have always been proud of the way Maine’s day of registration system was set up,” he said. “It encourages younger people to vote. It encourages everyone to vote for that matter because it takes away the complicated registration system other states have.”

If someone never registered in their home state, they could not have voted there. So why did Webster include names of students who clearly did not commit fraud?

Asked that question, the GOP chairman elicited a laugh and said he was frustrated trying to explain the situation.

“I have no idea whether they obeyed the law,” Webster said. “So I can’t accuse them.”

Only he did accuse them. He explicitly said his cursory research was evidence of “deliberate voter fraud.”

Webster’s claims drew immediate criticism from Democrats in July.

Still, Secretary of State Charlie Summers — former vice chairman of the Maine GOP under Webster — said he would investigate based on the seriousness of the allegations.

Less than a week later, though, Summers informed the public that he would roll Webster’s allegations into a broader probe. Some felt that was an effort to downplay Webster’s claims.

“He doesn’t want students to vote in Maine. Everything else he’s said has been a smokescreen,” said Ben Grant, chairman of the Maine Democratic Party. “The key issue is people voting in more than one place and that hasn’t happened.”

Although the Secretary of State’s Office investigation is not complete, there is no evidence to suggest that anyone on the list acted deliberately to commit fraud, as Webster suggested. And fraud exists when a voter has voted twice in the same election, something that has not been proven.

Many Democrats believe Webster and the Maine Republican Party are trying to suppress the voting rights of college students, a group that more often than not votes Democratic. They also have asserted that Webster’s witch hunt and Summers’ investigation were meant to inject fear into the minds of voters as they prepare to consider a people’s veto effort of a recently passed law that repealed same-day registration.

But Webster believes he has addressed a problem that has gone unchecked for 40 years under the Democrats’ control. Maine is such a small state, he said, that local races can be won in some cases by only a handful of votes.

“We’ll let this play out,” he said. “I’m willing to take the criticism I’m getting. What I find bizarre is that anyone would think I would bring up something that wasn’t a problem.”

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  • Anonymous

    If this guy wants to change the law, then he should submit legislation and see if there’s support for it.  Otherwise, deal with it.

  • newportres

    Yeah we should just allow anyone who wishes to to come into the State and dictate to us how we will pay our taxes or any number of issues.  They can then migrate back to whereever they really live and vote on the hot topic issue the Dems want them to vote on in their own state.
    Kind of gives the dems their own migratory issues community to draw from right?

  • newportres

    Yeah we should just allow anyone who wishes to to come into the State and dictate to us how we will pay our taxes or any number of issues.  They can then migrate back to whereever they really live and vote on the hot topic issue the Dems want them to vote on in their own state.
    Kind of gives the dems their own migratory issues community to draw from right?

  • Anonymous

    If you are an American citizen you should be able to vote in the district within which you reside.  Nuff said!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve moved a number of times over the years and I’ve never “unregistered” when going from one state to another. I was never aware I was supposed to and I’ve never been asked if I was registered to vote somewhere else. I’ve also never voted more than once in any election. This issue of students possibly voting multiple times is just the usual republican malarkey. What is Charlie Webster really afraid of – that young, typically open minded people might vote at all?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1063165669 Jill Fletcher

    If college kids are attending because of mom and dad then the parents need to be a resident of Maine.  The ones from other states shouldn’t be allowed to vote on maine issues. It should be based on that. Just because they go to UMO and stay in Orono shouldn’t be “enough” to allow them to make decisions for those of us who are actual residents of this state or parents of students who are. But, just to allow “any student” from “any state” while in school to vote on our states issues to “encourage voting” isn’t what I call good.  They can go vote in the state where their parents live and go be “encouraged” to vote there.

  • Anonymous

    Im a card carrying republican, but i have to disagree with the GOP on this one. The constitution clearly states that poll taxes are prohibited. The student should be voting absentee is his home district, unless he has committed to permanently relocating to the town where he is in school.

    Paying taxes should NEVER be used as a qualification to vote, the constitution is clear on that.

  • Anonymous

    But- it isn’t a problem, Mr. Webster.
     You clearly haven’t found a problem, because you have yet to find one person that has committed fraud.  And, these students do much for the local economy when the purchase food, gas, clothes, entertainment, all of which is taxed.  Don’t forget that a portion of every dollar spent on rent goes towards property tax. Their voices are just as valid as yours.

  • Buzlno

    “….trying to suppress the voting rights of college students, a group that more often  than not votes Democrat.” They vote liberal? What a surprise!  

    If you’re under thirty and don’t vote D,  you have no heart.

    If you’re over thirty and don’t vote R, you have no brain.

  • Buzlno

    “….trying to suppress the voting rights of college students, a group that more often  than not votes Democrat.” They vote liberal? What a surprise!  

    If you’re under thirty and don’t vote D,  you have no heart.

    If you’re over thirty and don’t vote R, you have no brain.

  • Anonymous

    The writer is confused over voting in Federal elections and voting in local ones. Maine and the town I live in, have long had strict residency and local ‘citizenship’ requirements….and they reject P.O. Boxes in the student union as a legitimate residence(o.k. under federal rules, apparently). Among the i.d. requested are a Maine Driver’s license that shows your place of residence.

    There are instances of political party motivated voting using tickets and registrations using false I.D.’s…uh, sure I’m 21. and egregious dual voting in other states fomented by Youth for Obama and ACORN. 

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t realize dogs could vote or even wanted to?  Got an agenda  of issues you’re lobbying for?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carey-Haskell/1477686453 Carey Haskell

    This Webster is an embarrassment and Republicans should get rid of him before he does more damage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

    I’m a Republican but this is ridiculous. 46% of working age Americans don’t pay income taxes. Should they not be allowed to vote either? Mr. Webster, please stop the witch hunts. You are making our party look foolish.

  • Anonymous

    The same thing that happened to Christopher also happened to me. I was registered to vote in Maine, moved to Massachusetts for a few years and registered there, then moved back to Maine, went to RE-register and found that my name had never been removed from the voting lists. Ergo, I was registered in two states simultaneously, and for all I know, I may STILL be registered in Mass. At no time did I vote in both places, however, and certainly, most people in the same situation probably don’t.

    But the fact is the system failed because I easily COULD have voted in both states. This is why I support the elimination of same-day voter registration. It takes time to check records. We ask for ID to buy liquor to PREVENT under-age drinking, not to punish or hassle responsible adults from buying it. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    That being said, Charlie Webster would do well to just shut up now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=5802936 Elizabeth Deprey

    “I get tired of talking about this because the law is clear,” Webster said this week. “If I want to vote, I need to establish residency. I need to register my car and pay taxes in that community. You can’t just become a student and vote wherever you want.”
    Not sure about the paying taxes = voting rights argument. What about renters who are not students? We don’t *technically* pay property taxes, but we’re still American citizens with the right to vote. Registering a car shouldn’t be a qualification for voting either. If you live somewhere, you should be allowed to vote there. The percent of the population that votes is already so small – why are we attacking people who vote?

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Webster should get with the program and work on the real issues facing the State of Maine. You cannot seek ways to disenfranchise people of their right to vote particularly in regards to national elections.  I would doubt that many of these students cast votes on the local issues.
    Unfortunatly there seems to be a real lack of focusing on the problems needing to be adressed as the Republican Party wastes the Legislatures time on fringe issues.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    According to Maine Revenue Services, if you vote in Maine, you are a resident of Maine.  If any college student voted in Maine and had earned income, then they owe the State of Maine tax on their income.  This issue has opened a huge can of worms because so many other things hinge on residency, especially here in Maine.  Good luck kids filing and amending tax returns!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You are right but if they vote in Maine, they are residents of Maine according to Maine Revenue Services and so they are required to pay Maine income tax on any money that they may earn, here or at their real home.

  • Anonymous

    Things would be so much better if one or two of my close friends and I were the only ones allowed to vote.  

  • Anonymous

    Things would be so much better if one or two of my close friends and I were the only ones allowed to vote.  

  • Anonymous

    BDN: Next to the last paragraph, first sentence: “But Webster believes he has addressed a problem that has gone unchecked for 40 years until the Democrats’ eye.”  Is that supposed to be  “…under the Democrats’ eye.” ?

  • Anonymous

    More Fascist Republican foolishness, brought to you by the party who still thinks that money and power are more important than people’s rights.

  • Anonymous

    More Fascist Republican foolishness, brought to you by the party who still thinks that money and power are more important than people’s rights.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    I haven’t lived in New Jersey in over ten years, and I have friends there that informed me that I received a sample ballot in their June election. It isn’t my responsibility to unregister in a town, it’s my responsibility to not commit fraud and vote in two places.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    We already do that. I don’t hear you complaining about elderly snowbirds who are long gone out of Maine by November, only live here four months out of the year, but cast absentee ballots here. They’re within their rights to do so, mind, but where is the outrage about this solidly Republican electorate interfering with our elections when they don’t pay taxes here?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Does that mean that only thirty year olds should vote for independents?

  • A shmidt

    Let’s make every effort to vote these clowns out of office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    What do you feel about snowbirds voting here?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    What do you feel about snowbirds voting here?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    What do you feel about snowbirds voting here?

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    Just what we need…more stagnant ideas from old grumpy people :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    Just what we need…more stagnant ideas from old grumpy people :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    Just what we need…more stagnant ideas from old grumpy people :)

  • Anonymous

    If you do not pay taxes, than you do not have a say on tax increase or decrease. I do not need hun yucks to vote for tax increases that do not pay for them.  And you know it is going on, if you pay taxes why in your right mind ever want to increase paying more. But tax increase go on all the time whether voted for or just bamboozled through.

  • Anonymous

    If you do not pay taxes, than you do not have a say on tax increase or decrease. I do not need hun yucks to vote for tax increases that do not pay for them.  And you know it is going on, if you pay taxes why in your right mind ever want to increase paying more. But tax increase go on all the time whether voted for or just bamboozled through.

  • Anonymous

    If you do not pay taxes, than you do not have a say on tax increase or decrease. I do not need hun yucks to vote for tax increases that do not pay for them.  And you know it is going on, if you pay taxes why in your right mind ever want to increase paying more. But tax increase go on all the time whether voted for or just bamboozled through.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719791897 Chris Grindle

    This is your party and what it has become…own it….I hope your proud for making it possible for morons like this to be in public office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719791897 Chris Grindle

    This is your party and what it has become…own it….I hope your proud for making it possible for morons like this to be in public office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719791897 Chris Grindle

    This is your party and what it has become…own it….I hope your proud for making it possible for morons like this to be in public office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719791897 Chris Grindle

    This is your party and what it has become…own it….I hope your proud for making it possible for morons like this to be in public office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719791897 Chris Grindle

    This is your party and what it has become…own it….I hope your proud for making it possible for morons like this to be in public office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719791897 Chris Grindle

    This is your party and what it has become…own it….I hope your proud for making it possible for morons like this to be in public office.

  • Anonymous

    Is this really a huge problem?  I’m a conservative, but man, I’d run away from this issue as quick as possible, seems petty to me.  Regardless of what the laws say, I’m sure the intent is for citizens to vote within their own districts, so I get that part, but how big of a problem is this?  Best case scenario, if students are outside of their district, they should get an absentee ballot.  If you can show me data where thousands of students from out of state are voting in local Maine elections, so be it, but I would assume it’s a very small percentage of the votes.

  • Anonymous

    Is this really a huge problem?  I’m a conservative, but man, I’d run away from this issue as quick as possible, seems petty to me.  Regardless of what the laws say, I’m sure the intent is for citizens to vote within their own districts, so I get that part, but how big of a problem is this?  Best case scenario, if students are outside of their district, they should get an absentee ballot.  If you can show me data where thousands of students from out of state are voting in local Maine elections, so be it, but I would assume it’s a very small percentage of the votes.

  • Anonymous

    Is this really a huge problem?  I’m a conservative, but man, I’d run away from this issue as quick as possible, seems petty to me.  Regardless of what the laws say, I’m sure the intent is for citizens to vote within their own districts, so I get that part, but how big of a problem is this?  Best case scenario, if students are outside of their district, they should get an absentee ballot.  If you can show me data where thousands of students from out of state are voting in local Maine elections, so be it, but I would assume it’s a very small percentage of the votes.

  • Anonymous

    Is this really a huge problem?  I’m a conservative, but man, I’d run away from this issue as quick as possible, seems petty to me.  Regardless of what the laws say, I’m sure the intent is for citizens to vote within their own districts, so I get that part, but how big of a problem is this?  Best case scenario, if students are outside of their district, they should get an absentee ballot.  If you can show me data where thousands of students from out of state are voting in local Maine elections, so be it, but I would assume it’s a very small percentage of the votes.

  • Anonymous

    Is this really a huge problem?  I’m a conservative, but man, I’d run away from this issue as quick as possible, seems petty to me.  Regardless of what the laws say, I’m sure the intent is for citizens to vote within their own districts, so I get that part, but how big of a problem is this?  Best case scenario, if students are outside of their district, they should get an absentee ballot.  If you can show me data where thousands of students from out of state are voting in local Maine elections, so be it, but I would assume it’s a very small percentage of the votes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    Yes, but the system also fails in reverse to that.  I moved from Brewer to Bangor and back to Brewer, and they did not have us registered in either place because of the move.  Because of the same day voter registration, they were able to fix the mix up as they had with multiple people while I was there, and allowed us our right to vote.  To eliminate same day registration could disallow people the right to vote, and that last time I checked, it was against the Constitution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    Yes, but the system also fails in reverse to that.  I moved from Brewer to Bangor and back to Brewer, and they did not have us registered in either place because of the move.  Because of the same day voter registration, they were able to fix the mix up as they had with multiple people while I was there, and allowed us our right to vote.  To eliminate same day registration could disallow people the right to vote, and that last time I checked, it was against the Constitution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    Yes, but the system also fails in reverse to that.  I moved from Brewer to Bangor and back to Brewer, and they did not have us registered in either place because of the move.  Because of the same day voter registration, they were able to fix the mix up as they had with multiple people while I was there, and allowed us our right to vote.  To eliminate same day registration could disallow people the right to vote, and that last time I checked, it was against the Constitution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    Yes, but the system also fails in reverse to that.  I moved from Brewer to Bangor and back to Brewer, and they did not have us registered in either place because of the move.  Because of the same day voter registration, they were able to fix the mix up as they had with multiple people while I was there, and allowed us our right to vote.  To eliminate same day registration could disallow people the right to vote, and that last time I checked, it was against the Constitution.

  • honey777

    He’s probably unhappy that LePage gets so much attention with his idiotic remarks.  Decided he’d act like a jerk, too.  Hey, bad attention is better than no attention, right?

  • honey777

    He’s probably unhappy that LePage gets so much attention with his idiotic remarks.  Decided he’d act like a jerk, too.  Hey, bad attention is better than no attention, right?

  • honey777

    He’s probably unhappy that LePage gets so much attention with his idiotic remarks.  Decided he’d act like a jerk, too.  Hey, bad attention is better than no attention, right?

  • honey777

    He’s probably unhappy that LePage gets so much attention with his idiotic remarks.  Decided he’d act like a jerk, too.  Hey, bad attention is better than no attention, right?

  • honey777

    He’s probably unhappy that LePage gets so much attention with his idiotic remarks.  Decided he’d act like a jerk, too.  Hey, bad attention is better than no attention, right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gjventurelli George J Venturelli

    No offense, but as an independent, your party already looks as foolish as the democratic party looks weak :)

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    American citizens have a constitutional right to vote…that can’t be tied to paying taxes. If this argument holds up then it opens the door to stripping voting rights from low-income citizens that don’t make a positive fiscal contribution to the government, state or local. As much as the idea of requiring people to pay taxes to vote may have some appeal, the premise reeks of unconstitutionality.

  • Anonymous

    Better still if you were the only ones to pay taxes.

  • A shmidt

    Scording to Mr Webster only republicans should be allowed to vote. And of course a handful of Independents to make it look “fair and balanced.”

  • Anonymous

    It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to.  Charlie Webster make me cry!!!

  • Anonymous

    If you lived in Mass for a few years and came back to find that you were STILL registered here, then no one ever received notice to remove you from the rolls or checked to see if you were registered elsewhere…for years. How will removing same day registration have any effect on that?   If they’re not checking, then a couple of days will not make any difference other than to disenfranchise some voters.  Drinking alcohol (under-age or otherwise) was not a constitutional right of citizenship last time I checked.

  • Anonymous

    I hope the college students show up in record numbers this cycle just to prove a point.

  • Anonymous

    Who cares what you think, Charlie?

    You are such a buffoon with your made up drama.

    What a joke.

    This, folks, is your typical republicant.

    Too bad he can’t think for himself.

    Too bad he cannot address the serious problems facing this state and this country.

    What a joke.

  • Anonymous

    “46% of working age Americans don’t pay income taxes. Should they not be allowed to vote either?”

    ABSOLUTELY!!!   If you can’t take your turn pushing the wagon, you have no damn business steering.  And that’s just the way it used to be before LBJ came along.

  • Anonymous

    Something needs to be made clear to some folks posting here. Charlie Webster is the paid  (although not paid much) head of the Maine Republican Party. He is not an elected official in Augusta. He does not have any legislative role, other than that of a lobbyist for the GOP interests.
    I don’t believe there are many instances of actual voter fraud with out of state students. However, an open discussion of how Maine wants to structure voter registration for out of state students is not a bad thing. There is no need to demonize either side of the debate. Yes, we want as many informed people to vote as possible–I wish every citizen would be informed and vote in every election. But, it is also true that one should vote, particularly in local elections, where one is a resident–ie where the decisions on local representation, school budgets, town/city budgets actually affect you most. That may very well be in your college town, but it also may be in your hometown.
    To me it is not about legal/illegal voting. It is about thoughtful voting.

  • Hussar

    It is time the GOP stop using this legitimate issue as an excuse and instead embrace the concept. 
     
    One hundred years ago this wasn’t an issue because most individuals never moved more than 25 miles than the county they were born in.  In today’s highly mobile and often anonymous society our agrarian voter registration process needs to be updated using  inexpensive 21st century technology.  The old way of doing business, where you walk in and vote because the town clerk knows you will not suffice anymore.   
     
    As stated, the GOP should use the current , common sense defying, notion of voter registration to their advantage.  They should actively organize members of the GOP who reside outside of Maine and yet own property in the state—these individuals have much more at stake in Maine politics than a bunch of college kids passing through.  These absentee land owners should register to vote as late as possible, get an absentee ballot then vote from their homes through the mail.  Once their votes are counted, they should immediately unregister in Maine so they would not be subject to our confiscatory tax policies.  This process should be encouraged and repeated for every election and advanced to include voting in person at the ritual spring town hall meetings.   Imagine, what would happen on our island communities if all those people from away that owned property and outnumber the locals would take advantage of the state’s current nonsensical definition of residency and voted in local municipal elections?  New wharves for lobsterman—never.  New tourist friendly regulations and ordinances—you bet.   I would take it one step further,  why not organize “leaf peeping” or “Lobster Bake”  tours  for GOP faithful from other states (after all we are “Vacationland”) have them register to vote based on the rental property where they are staying, and have them  vote by absentee ballot.   Targeting GOP voters in Blue States, where their votes may never make difference, to come to Maine to vote Republican could turn the tide in many local elections.  Once these well heeled and rich Republicans start exercising their electoral clout in the small very Democratic enclaves in coastal Maine, then you might see the Democrats in Augusta change their minds about the ridiculous nature of Maine’s current voter registration laws, process, and identification procedures.
     
    Mr. Webster, don’t let the Democrats steal elections.  Embrace their nefarious methods and let rich Republicans from “away” vote here instead. 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, to heck with what the constitution says. Maybe only right handed people should be allowed to vote too.

  • Anonymous

    News flash – the 100 or so students that we are talking about here (or more precisely, the 100 or so students that the GOP are using as pawns in this wedge issue game) don’t earn enough money to owe anybody taxes.

  • Anonymous

    I agree Dave. I always assumed that when I registered in a new municipality, there was an automated process unregistering me from the previous one. They DO ask where you were previously registered. Charlie Webster is simply doing what he has always done best: Much ado about nothing. He is concerned that liberal-minded young people will exercise their rights and actually cast their votes.

  • Anonymous

    I agree Dave. I always assumed that when I registered in a new municipality, there was an automated process unregistering me from the previous one. They DO ask where you were previously registered. Charlie Webster is simply doing what he has always done best: Much ado about nothing. He is concerned that liberal-minded young people will exercise their rights and actually cast their votes.

  • Anonymous

    you’re exactly right. I don’t believe there was any malicious intent involved with these voters. They didn’t vote in two places, it’s the system that was broken.

  • Anonymous

    you’re exactly right. I don’t believe there was any malicious intent involved with these voters. They didn’t vote in two places, it’s the system that was broken.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    This Charlie Webster is ridiculous. Yeah, let’s all go back to the nineteenth century. Nice chairman you have there, repugnants.

    I also think it’s about time to start electing pols like Secretary of State, Attorney General, and myriad other appointed hacks. Other states do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    This Charlie Webster is ridiculous. Yeah, let’s all go back to the nineteenth century. Nice chairman you have there, repugnants.

    I also think it’s about time to start electing pols like Secretary of State, Attorney General, and myriad other appointed hacks. Other states do.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm.  The US Constitution prohibits poll taxes – which means you don’t have to pay taxes to vote.   Charlie Webster is doing a great job at alienating a whole generation of voters, Republican and Democrat alike.  I bet there are a bunch of constitutional lawyers who would be excited to take this on…

  • Anonymous

    Hmm.  The US Constitution prohibits poll taxes – which means you don’t have to pay taxes to vote.   Charlie Webster is doing a great job at alienating a whole generation of voters, Republican and Democrat alike.  I bet there are a bunch of constitutional lawyers who would be excited to take this on…

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    And thank the deities he did come along. 

    It’s so wonderful to know racism is alive and well in the state of Maine. NOT.

  • Anonymous

    I always react to Charlie Webster’s views with very mixed feelings. On one hand, I find them so ridiculous and totally insane. On the other hand, I feel, “Please, let Charlie keep on talking.” Every time he does, it is my hope that more Maine people view Charlie and the Republican Party that he represents for what he and they truly are: selfish, arrogant, and out-of touch with the vast majority of Maine folks.

  • Anonymous

    It’s more difficult when you take into account that two different states were involved in MDILady’s case.  We can’t make Mass do anything they don’t feel like doing, regardless of Maine voting law.

  • hasacluemaine

    Charlie, you should have crossed referenced out of State students to see if they pulled an absentee ballot from their “real” hometowns and then voted again in Maine. This would have taken some amount of time, but your assertions would have had far more weight with corroborating proof.

  • hasacluemaine

    Charlie, you should have crossed referenced out of State students to see if they pulled an absentee ballot from their “real” hometowns and then voted again in Maine. This would have taken some amount of time, but your assertions would have had far more weight with corroborating proof.

  • Anonymous

    You can’t always have your cake and eat it!

  • Anonymous

    What does the amount of pigment in a person’s skin have to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    What does the amount of pigment in a person’s skin have to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    What does the amount of pigment in a person’s skin have to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    What does the amount of pigment in a person’s skin have to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    If Mr. Webster’s line of thinking is correct, why doesn’t he reintroduce the poll tax?  Oh yes, it was ruled unconstitutional.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention their out-of-state tuition being paid to our Maine Universities.

  • http://twitter.com/dirigogo Arnie Dirigogo

    The BDN took a month to dig into the backgrounds of the students on Webster’s list, and determined that two voted legally. Town clerks have to make this same determination immediately. That is the reason same-day registration needs to be eliminated. The change in the law simply gives town clerks two days to do the same thing the BDN did, and verify the legality of voter registrations.

  • Anonymous

    If Mr. Webster has his way, he should reintroduce the poll tax as a requirement.  Oh yes, it was ruled unconstitutional years ago.

  • Anonymous

    i disagree with his logic if tax burden was tied to voting fifty percent of maine could not vote.

  • Anonymous

    where is the racism?

  • Anonymous

    Why would a college student think it okay to vote here in Maine and then return to their home and vote again? Either they are ignorant, stupid or devious. It is obvious from this piece that the reporter has disagreements with Webster but there are some important questions that should be asked. Requiring residency and proof of residency should be on the individual wanting to vote. If I want to register in this state and are required to produce a tax form or other designated proof that’s no big deal. really, what’s the problem? God forbid we would actually require people to be responsible and not vote in two states. If you want to vote here than this should be your permanent residence. Just like we require of our military. Paying taxes is one way of proof. What happens when these students’ parents are claiming these kids as dependents in another state? Should they be allowed to vote in Maine as well yet claimed as a dependent elsewhere?

  • Anonymous

    Trust me, we would use our votes more wisely than that. Only union members/libs/dems would pay taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Trust me, we would use our votes more wisely than that. Only union members/libs/dems would pay taxes.

  • Anonymous

    From maine.gov:

    DOMICILE STATUS

    The state in which you are domiciled is your permanent legal residence. This is the place you intend to
    make your home for a permanent or indefinite period of time. It is generally the place where you dwell and
    which is the center of your domestic, social and civic life.

    Except for “safe harbor” residents, if you are domiciled in Maine, you are a Maine “resident” for income tax
    purposes – even if you are outside the state for the entire tax year. A person can have only one domicile; therefore,
    if you are domiciled in Maine you cannot be domiciled in another state or country. Similarly, if you are domiciled
    in another state or country, you cannot be domiciled in Maine. (However, as explained in the following section
    you may be domiciled in one state or country and still be a statutory resident for tax purposes in another state
    or country.)

    Once your domicile is established in Maine, it continues until you establish domicile elsewhere. If your
    legal residency becomes an issue, you will have the burden of showing that you have established domicile
    in another state or country.

    If you move out of Maine temporarily, without establishing domicile in the other state (or country), you
    continue to be domiciled in Maine. This is the case even if you sell your home in Maine.

    For most people, even those who divide their time between different states, there is no question where they
    are domiciled; it is clear where they maintain their “home base.” Think of it this way: most people know
    the place they call home. 

  • Anonymous

    Well maybe that should change, and maybe to right and left handed people who pay taxes. Why should anyone who contributes absolutely nothing to the system, and in fact more likely sucks off the system, help decide where our money is spent? And yes, of course people who don’t contribute are going to be liberals who support their lifestyle.
    How would you like it if once a month I had access to your check book and could demand that you give me a certain percentage even though I didn’t deposit any money into your account?

  • Anonymous

    Well maybe that should change, and maybe to right and left handed people who pay taxes. Why should anyone who contributes absolutely nothing to the system, and in fact more likely sucks off the system, help decide where our money is spent? And yes, of course people who don’t contribute are going to be liberals who support their lifestyle.
    How would you like it if once a month I had access to your check book and could demand that you give me a certain percentage even though I didn’t deposit any money into your account?

  • Anonymous

    Very, very well said. Thank you.

  • ChuckGG

    I agree with you but this whole thing smacks of quashing “liberal” votes.  In the upcoming 2012 election, no doubt Marriage Equality will be on the ballot.  Young, educated, and the wealthier, all tend to vote for Marriage Equality.  Older, conservative, less affluent, less educated, and more religious, tend to vote against Marriage Equality.  As the voting during the 2009 People’s Veto was razor thin – something like 33,000 votes, I am sure the bible thumpers will be pulling out all the stops to “save” us from ourselves.  These people need to get a life and leave the rest of us alone.  They are always complaining about the government telling them how to live.  Newflash:  I am tired of them and their flavor of the bible telling me how to live.

    They are annoying and need to go away and leave everyone alone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Pachucki/1799122683 Bob Pachucki

    If the State of Maine is allowing you to be legal residents to vote then you should not be charged the non-resident tuition rate at the State University. After registering you should get the lower tuition that is charged to Maine residents and possibly a refund for any over paid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Pachucki/1799122683 Bob Pachucki

    If the State of Maine is allowing you to be legal residents to vote then you should not be charged the non-resident tuition rate at the State University. After registering you should get the lower tuition that is charged to Maine residents and possibly a refund for any over paid.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans try to win by limiting the number of voters. It’s really simple….when more Mainers vote, republicans usually lose because they don’t represent most of us. We all know Lepage won only because Cutler and Mitchell split the other side. Now, Charlie Webster wants to try to rig the next election so they don’t get thrown out. But they will.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans try to win by limiting the number of voters. It’s really simple….when more Mainers vote, republicans usually lose because they don’t represent most of us. We all know Lepage won only because Cutler and Mitchell split the other side. Now, Charlie Webster wants to try to rig the next election so they don’t get thrown out. But they will.

  • ChuckGG

    I always am dumbstruck when people like this come out with these idiotic ideas such as tying voting to taxes.  Have they never studied history?  What’s next, controlling crowds with fire hoses?  They seem so utterly oblivious to the law and to history.

    It is “stunningly stupid.”

  • ChuckGG

    I always am dumbstruck when people like this come out with these idiotic ideas such as tying voting to taxes.  Have they never studied history?  What’s next, controlling crowds with fire hoses?  They seem so utterly oblivious to the law and to history.

    It is “stunningly stupid.”

  • ChuckGG

    I always am dumbstruck when people like this come out with these idiotic ideas such as tying voting to taxes.  Have they never studied history?  What’s next, controlling crowds with fire hoses?  They seem so utterly oblivious to the law and to history.

    It is “stunningly stupid.”

  • ChuckGG

    It is such an embarrassment to those of us from the “old” RNC.  We’re now called RINOs.  How we ever “dumbed down” to this level is just beyond me.  The most conservative Republican from my era, now would be called a screaming liberal.  Today’s crowd is just to the right of Attilla the Hun, and clutching a bible at the same time.  It is just appalling and embarrassing.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, we did more, but we only quoted two students who agreed to have their names published.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, we did more, but we only quoted two students who agreed to have their names published.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=563422610 Eric Scott Taylor

    Does anyone really think that a college student, already responsible for thousands of dollars of tuition, text books, and fees, would actually drive their ’79 Honda with the bald tires and rattling muffler 500 miles to their parent’s home (and back) on election day (which is NOT a holiday you’ll note, but usually a school day), so that they could place ONE VOTE in both municipalities? Is anyone targeting the summer home owners who live here for 6 months and Florida the other 6? Does Martha Stewart, John Travolta, or Stephen King vote twice? I want to know!

  • Anonymous

    Maine GOP would do well to have a more intelligent chairman than Charlie Webster.

    Yes Charlie, the law IS very clear— college students are breaking no laws when they vote where they attend college.

  • Anonymous

    Maine GOP would do well to have a more intelligent chairman than Charlie Webster.

    Yes Charlie, the law IS very clear— college students are breaking no laws when they vote where they attend college.

  • Anonymous

    Maine GOP would do well to have a more intelligent chairman than Charlie Webster.

    Yes Charlie, the law IS very clear— college students are breaking no laws when they vote where they attend college.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=563422610 Eric Scott Taylor

    And people who contribute MORE to the society should have more votes, I mean if you only pay $10,000 versus someone who pays 10,000,000, then shouldn’t they have a thousand more “votes” than you? It’s only fair! Hey, maybe this would help balance the budget, people might volunteer more tax money if they had more representation. Wait, it’s just cheaper to buy the politicians, like the status quo. Never mind.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it would be a good idea to mix residency requirements for College tuition up with residency requirements for voting. They are different things altogether, which is why out-of-state college students can vote in Maine while they attend school here (and that is perfectly legal per our federal laws).

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it would be a good idea to mix residency requirements for College tuition up with residency requirements for voting. They are different things altogether, which is why out-of-state college students can vote in Maine while they attend school here (and that is perfectly legal per our federal laws).

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it would be a good idea to mix residency requirements for College tuition up with residency requirements for voting. They are different things altogether, which is why out-of-state college students can vote in Maine while they attend school here (and that is perfectly legal per our federal laws).

  • Anonymous

    Nice straw man, but so far no one has proved such a thing has happened. All Charlie Webster showed was a list of out-of-state college students who voted in Maine while attending school here. There is nothing to indicate they also voted anywhere else in the same election.

  • Anonymous

    “We’ll let this play out,” he said. “I’m willing to take the criticism I’m getting. What I find bizarre is that anyone would think I would bring up something that wasn’t a problem.”

    Funny how this is a problem with other states that have LePage type governors, it’s ok GOP we all know your trying to steal the election any way you can. If your policies wouldn’t be so extreme there would be no need to be thieves.

  • Anonymous

    “We’ll let this play out,” he said. “I’m willing to take the criticism I’m getting. What I find bizarre is that anyone would think I would bring up something that wasn’t a problem.”

    Funny how this is a problem with other states that have LePage type governors, it’s ok GOP we all know your trying to steal the election any way you can. If your policies wouldn’t be so extreme there would be no need to be thieves.

  • Anonymous

    “We’ll let this play out,” he said. “I’m willing to take the criticism I’m getting. What I find bizarre is that anyone would think I would bring up something that wasn’t a problem.”

    Funny how this is a problem with other states that have LePage type governors, it’s ok GOP we all know your trying to steal the election any way you can. If your policies wouldn’t be so extreme there would be no need to be thieves.

  • Anonymous

    And then that law would be found unconstitutional by our federal government… I’d rather we not waste the legislature’s time any more than we already have.

  • Anonymous

    And then that law would be found unconstitutional by our federal government… I’d rather we not waste the legislature’s time any more than we already have.

  • Anonymous

    And then that law would be found unconstitutional by our federal government… I’d rather we not waste the legislature’s time any more than we already have.

  • Anonymous

    And then that law would be found unconstitutional by our federal government… I’d rather we not waste the legislature’s time any more than we already have.

  • Anonymous

    And then that law would be found unconstitutional by our federal government… I’d rather we not waste the legislature’s time any more than we already have.

  • Anonymous

    And then that law would be found unconstitutional by our federal government… I’d rather we not waste the legislature’s time any more than we already have.

  • Anonymous

    But many college students live in apartments thus paying property taxes (via their rent payments), pay sales tax via their purchases (clothes, fuel, utilities, food…), frequently are involved in the cummunity through volunteer activities and are subject to the laws of the state while they are here, typically 4+ years.  Their only absences are school breaks and sometimes even those are spent living & working in Maine, even those students whose parents live out-of-state.  To insist that they pay their taxes without any representation is a violation of one of our countries most basic tenents.  As a matter of fact there was a “tea party” in Boston over 200 years ago over just that issue. 

  • Anonymous

    I was a town clerk and registrar of voters for many years.  I believe there is a question on the voter registration card regarding if the person was registered to vote in another town.  If the person indicated that they were registered in another town or state, then one of my duties was to notify that town’s registrar of voters to remove the person from their voting list because they were now registered to vote in my town.  The problem of being registered in two places at once should not be a problem or an issue if steps such as these are followed.

  • Anonymous

    I was a town clerk and registrar of voters for many years.  I believe there is a question on the voter registration card regarding if the person was registered to vote in another town.  If the person indicated that they were registered in another town or state, then one of my duties was to notify that town’s registrar of voters to remove the person from their voting list because they were now registered to vote in my town.  The problem of being registered in two places at once should not be a problem or an issue if steps such as these are followed.

  • Anonymous

    …and if you believe such blanket generalizations have any truth to them at all, you shouldn’t vote.

  • Anonymous

    State voting regulations can be more permissive than federal regulations, but they cannot be more restrictive.

  • Anonymous

    State voting regulations can be more permissive than federal regulations, but they cannot be more restrictive.

  • Anonymous

    LBJ was on the Supreme Court?

  • Anonymous

    LBJ was on the Supreme Court?

  • Anonymous

    Residency requirements for voting are different than residency requirements for paying taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Webster…you are clearly obsessed with student voting. NO ONE IS REQUIRED TO PAY TAXES IN ORDER TO VOTE!!!!

  • AionNV

    Repeating THAT lie doesn’t make it true.

  • Anonymous

    “Why would a college student think it okay to vote here in Maine and then return to their home and vote again?”

    I guess you missed the part about him not having ANY proof that ANY student did that? This is just speculation on his part. He is accusing people of doing something illegal just because he thinks it’s possible it may have happened at some point with someone, sometime. He did NOT investigate. He did NOT find any examples of this happening. He’s just throwing the sh__ against the wall and hoping something will stick.

    Mr. Webster is making a fool of himself and his party. Once the witch hunt, er I mean investigation, is complete and no one is proven to have voted in more than one place, will he apologize? Somehow, I doubt that. He’ll think of something else to challenge the eligibility of those he thinks might vote for the other party.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, you have your demographics incorrect.  The ELITE liberals may be more educated, but the majority of voters that vote liberal are less affluent, less educated.  I’m not here to debate the Marriage Equality issue, but try to leave demographics out of this unless you can back up your assumptions with facts.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, you have your demographics incorrect.  The ELITE liberals may be more educated, but the majority of voters that vote liberal are less affluent, less educated.  I’m not here to debate the Marriage Equality issue, but try to leave demographics out of this unless you can back up your assumptions with facts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

    I agree and I support the positions of the Independent Party but sadly, 3 party elections often lead to the wrong person getting elected.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster is simply on a witch hunt.  That is all he is about, and more and more people can see that. He is a fraud.

  • AionNV

    Because they don’t vote for the crackpot teaparty/republican/coke brothers corporate agenda.  The intention is clear, prevent people from voting.  The law is clear, none of the things he says are requirements, are requirements.   In this regard he’s a perfect representative, since he parrots the kind of  ignorance that runs so rampant among the tea party/GOP clones.

  • AionNV

    Because they don’t vote for the crackpot teaparty/republican/coke brothers corporate agenda.  The intention is clear, prevent people from voting.  The law is clear, none of the things he says are requirements, are requirements.   In this regard he’s a perfect representative, since he parrots the kind of  ignorance that runs so rampant among the tea party/GOP clones.

  • Anonymous

    It is a horrible party…getting worse and worse all the time.

  • Anonymous

    They are attacking those they know/feel will more likely vote Democratic. They are trying to sway the coming elections. They are desperate.

  • Anonymous

    They are attacking those they know/feel will more likely vote Democratic. They are trying to sway the coming elections. They are desperate.

  • Buzlno

    Good one!  When I heard that for the first time ditty, people were still voting Whig!

  • Buzlno

    Good one!  When I heard that for the first time ditty, people were still voting Whig!

  • Noah

    The only way to win the 2012 election is to stomp out the opposition. 

    Charlie’s got the right idea.   He and his GOPer pals will re-structure the state’s voting boundaries in favor of the GOPers.  They’ll also attempt to keep legally registered college students away from the ballot box,  too.

    GOPers and Tea Party in a united thrust to become the sole party.  The GOPer-Tea Party amalgamated affiliation of one.   It simplifies voting for everyone with only one party. 

    Charlie’s ideas have been pushed before.   In some cases they worked. 

    Remember?

  • Noah

    The only way to win the 2012 election is to stomp out the opposition. 

    Charlie’s got the right idea.   He and his GOPer pals will re-structure the state’s voting boundaries in favor of the GOPers.  They’ll also attempt to keep legally registered college students away from the ballot box,  too.

    GOPers and Tea Party in a united thrust to become the sole party.  The GOPer-Tea Party amalgamated affiliation of one.   It simplifies voting for everyone with only one party. 

    Charlie’s ideas have been pushed before.   In some cases they worked. 

    Remember?

  • Anonymous

    I hope it all comes back to smack the Repubs in the face.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it all comes back to smack the Repubs in the face.

  • Anonymous

    Hypocrisy at its ‘best’.

  • Anonymous

    Hypocrisy at its ‘best’.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Students who go to school in Maine pay all kinds of taxes….sales tax, gas tax, and State income tax if they work!!   What about the very  rich who have God knows how many tax loopholes and pay no income tax.  Maybe they shouldn’t be allowed to vote either…..furthermore they shouldn’t be allowed to influence the vote with their millions!   This statement by the GOP leader is ridiculous.  If you are 18 years old and reside (student or not) in the state at the time of a vote, you are legally allowed and encouraged to register and vote. 

  • Anonymous

    Students who go to school in Maine pay all kinds of taxes….sales tax, gas tax, and State income tax if they work!!   What about the very  rich who have God knows how many tax loopholes and pay no income tax.  Maybe they shouldn’t be allowed to vote either…..furthermore they shouldn’t be allowed to influence the vote with their millions!   This statement by the GOP leader is ridiculous.  If you are 18 years old and reside (student or not) in the state at the time of a vote, you are legally allowed and encouraged to register and vote. 

  • Anonymous

    Those folks like the fraud Webster have no trouble with those same aged people fighting in wars.  It is shameful.

  • Anonymous

    Those folks like the fraud Webster have no trouble with those same aged people fighting in wars.  It is shameful.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1643335372 Bethany Reynolds

    If a student works in Maine, they are more than likely already paying taxes- e.g. payroll taxes. (Not to mention the sales taxes they also pay.) Most students I know about don’t make much anyway and thus are likely due a refund, which they’ll have to file to get. The “only taxpayers should get to vote” attitude is a ridiculous straw man, and it’s inconsistent with our laws and democratic principles.

  • ChuckGG

    I don’t usually quote Wiki, but as a “liberal” Republican who is working at my office, here is a quick reference to contradict your statement.  Actually, I have seen few “liberals” who were not better educated and more affluent.  All the ultra-conservatives seem to be on the other end of the scale, and religious, but I suppose I am being redundant.
    =============

    While it is difficult to gather demographic information on ideological groups, recent surveys by the New York Times and CBS News, between 18% and 27% of American adults identify as liberal, versus moderate or conservative.[35] In the 2008 presidential election, exit polls showed that 22% of the electorate self-identified as “liberal.”[36] According to a 2004 study by the Pew Research Center, liberals were the most educated ideological demographic and were tied with the conservative sub-group, the “Enterprisers”, for the most affluent group. Of those who identified as liberal, 49% were college graduates and 41% had household incomes exceeding $75,000, compared to 27% and 28% as the national average, respectively.[37]
    Liberalism also remains the dominant political ideology in academia, with 72% of full-time faculty identifying as liberal in a 2004 study.[38] The social sciences and humanities were most liberal, whereas business and engineering departments were the least liberal, though even in the business departments, liberals outnumbered conservatives 49% to 39%. Generally, the more educated a person is the more likely he or she is to hold liberal beliefs.[39]
    In the 2000, 2004 and 2006 elections, the vast majority of liberals voted in favor of the Democrats, though liberals may also show support for the Greens.[40][41][42]

  • AionNV

    Any student from any state that lives here has a constitutional right to vote.

    If Republicans have such a problem with this ideal, perhaps they should study the constitution, or perhaps move to a more appropriate country for them, like Nigeria or Iran.

  • Buzlno

    Does everything need a smiley face so the sourpusses won’t immediately jump in with dour comments?

  • AionNV

    The issue is really one of age, since nobody is proposing that old people are prevented from voting.  

  • Anonymous

    A married couple earning $50,000 with three kids would pay practically no income tax, if any at all with all the deductions, but they would pay property tax, sales tax, payroll tax, etc., etc. Most senior citizens surviving on SS and savings pay no income tax. Where do you get off calling them all freeloaders?

    Income tax only accounts for 45% of tax revenues collected by the government. Just because someone doesn’t pay income tax doesn’t mean they don’t pay taxes at all. Nobody lives for free in this country.

  • Anonymous

    A married couple earning $50,000 with three kids would pay practically no income tax, if any at all with all the deductions, but they would pay property tax, sales tax, payroll tax, etc., etc. Most senior citizens surviving on SS and savings pay no income tax. Where do you get off calling them all freeloaders?

    Income tax only accounts for 45% of tax revenues collected by the government. Just because someone doesn’t pay income tax doesn’t mean they don’t pay taxes at all. Nobody lives for free in this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    LBJ passed the greatest amount of civil rights legislation in our lifetime. Look it up, and most of it benefited blacks. To denigrate LBJ’s accomplishments samadams_knows is clearly stating that he feels this legislation was wrong. There’s your racism, buddy. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    LBJ passed the greatest amount of civil rights legislation in our lifetime. Look it up, and most of it benefited blacks. To denigrate LBJ’s accomplishments samadams_knows is clearly stating that he feels this legislation was wrong. There’s your racism, buddy. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    LBJ passed the greatest amount of civil rights legislation in our lifetime. Look it up, and most of it benefited blacks. To denigrate LBJ’s accomplishments samadams_knows is clearly stating that he feels this legislation was wrong. There’s your racism, buddy. 

  • AionNV

    How many times are you going to repeat the same thing here ?

    The implication that out of state college students that are employed are not paying their taxes is based on what ?  

    Sheer GOP fantasy. 

  • Anonymous

    Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out!

  • AionNV

    They already do, duah.

  • Anonymous

    Re: headline statement – Tell that to CEOs of America’s largest corporations and the richest people in America who don’t pay taxes.

  • Noah

    No one, however fair minded they are, will ever eradicate the poor’s dependence on those who have more. 

    In today’s world, the rich should be only too pleased to assist their fellow Americans. Especially in our society where the rich continue to get richer, and the poor – poorer.

    How many people are forced to ride a bike to work because they cannot afford to pay almost four dollars a gallon for gas?   How many of those standing astride the class dividers of  poor and middle class,  have to pool rides to work?  

    You can’t define these people as liberals – at least, not all of them.  Surrpsingly, many vote republican, or, ardently support republicanism.

    Not once, did I or any of my family ever accept an unemployment check, or, veterans benefits.  We’re liberals in our way of thinking, conservative in our lifestyle, and we still clip coupons from the Bangor Daily News. 

    Texans approved  electric companies adding another dollar to their electricity bills to help those less fortunate keep their air conditioners running during this abominable heat.  The fund crested at more than a billion.  Today, it’s been depleted by the state’s us of it in other ways.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1643335372 Bethany Reynolds

    I agree that it would take more than 2-3 days to cross-check records with other states, so eliminating same-day registration does nothing to prevent this (hypothetical) fraud. On the other hand, Maine’s voter registration database is online, and clerks can find out in minutes if someone is registered in another Maine town. Same-day registration is not a problem- as most clerks would tell you. They are not the ones who pushed to eliminate it.

  • Anonymous

    This guy is a complete clown. if he sat down and thought before opening his mouth we’d all be better off. First off, he shows his complete ignorance of the law on this topic. secondly, he should be kissing the bottoms of each and every student in the state, whether they vote here or not. Students, their spending and tuition are one of the biggest economic generators in the state, they create thousands of jobs on campus and plenty of economic impact off campus. And yes Charlie, they pay taxes. they shop and pay sales tax, they drive and pay sales and fuel taxes, and many of them also work meaning they pay state income tax. I’ll go out on a limb and say that pretty much any single out of state college students is worth more to this economy than a certain GOP chairman.

  • Anonymous

    Everybody pays some taxes if they spend any money at all.  The reason they don’t pay income tax is they don’t earn enough.  I am sure most of them would gladly pay income taxes if they earned enough to have some left over after living expenses.  

  • Anonymous

    Like minded folks resembling this GOP guy have treated other inconvenient people groups in ways similar to how they are targeting college students.  People like……I don’t know….native Americans, Afro-Americans…..

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that makes it racist, necessarily.  If I criticize Hillary Clinton, does it make me a misogynist?

  • Anonymous

    The state GOP showed nearly zero leadership in the last election cycle, allowing Mr. LePage to be our candidate.  Are you surprised he’s still riding this “solution in search of a problem?”

  • Anonymous

    that is far from a failure of the system. Voting, much like many man things in our society has it’s basis on the honor system. That’s the way things have been done for many many years,  states have never communicated between themselves to “unregister” someone, it is assumed that you are an honest person. Obviously these days we’re learning that there are some dishonest people out there, there is certainly enough tech out there to catch people who have cheated. There is no need to restrict voter registration laws because of a very small number of people who might try to cheat the system, it’s really not that big a problem in Maine or anywhere else. Same day voter registration has worked in Maine with almost no cheating/fraud for nearly 4 decades. 
    I will echo your comment MDILady  Charlie Webster would do well to just shut up now. If the members of his party had any sense they would see what a fool he is and remove him. The fact that he is still in the chairman’s post says alot about his fellow republicans

  • Hussar

    So, lets say you are convicted of Tax Evasion and sent to federal prison in PA are you still allowed to vote?  Some states, don’t allow convicts to vote.

  • Anonymous

    I vote in three towns every election, the last 3 residences until I am found out. Good luck.

  • Anonymous

    This guy is an embarrassment to the GOP. Or should be.

  • Anonymous

    As far as Charlie Webster is concerned, anyone who does not vote Republican is committing voter fraud.  Simple, ain’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Domicile and residency are different words for good reason; they mean different things.

    voting has nothing to do with domicile.  It is determined by one’s residence at the time of voting. Residence for other purposes changes based on the definition used for each.  One can be “domiciled” in another state and a “resident” of this one.  The distinction is one of long term intent and connection.

  • Anonymous

    Or China….

  • Anonymous

    Or China….

  • Anonymous

    We should make sure that we get all the college kids out to vote, and before hand we should ensure all their “papers” are in order, so they can send a message the bad guys, “You lost because of us” 

  • Anonymous

    Well said!

  • Anonymous

    I always thought that voter fraud was voting in 2 or more places in the same election or voted in a community you don’t reside in or voted under an assumed name.   I own a multi-family home in one ward in the City I live in but am housesitting in another ward while my friend is stationed overseas so his home will not be empty for long periods of time.  I am registered to vote in the ward I live in not the ward I own a house in.  It sounds like under Charlie Webster Teapublican fear and smear world, I am committing voter fraud.  Good thing I don’t live in Maine.  it seems like they do not understand the rule of law.

  • Anonymous

    I say again;  If you are an American citizen it is your constitutionally guaranteed right to vote in the district within which you live.  Perhaps if you want to disenfranchise people you need to redefine what it means to be domiciled in America.

  • Anonymous

    Your stats don’t prove your point.  You state the levels for self identified “liberals” but than fail to provide the same info for self identified “conservatives”.  It proves nothing to compare your sample of lib stats to “the national average” when you are claiming superiority to a specific group. Your generalities are just that.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t own property either but I shop and spent money in my community. Does that mean I shouldn’t be able to vote too? When I went to college I lived in that community for a short period of time during that I time I worked in the community and spent money there also. I helped pay that communities taxes. It is kind of like the statement in the old days about tourists we want their money but they should leave it in Kittery at the bridge and go home!

  • Anonymous

    To a liberal it does.

  • Anonymous

    Dear GOP Chairman: The US SUPREME COURT has already ruled in favor of the students back in 1979.  Good luck winning against them.

  • Anonymous

    Webster finds it bizarre that anyone would think he would bring it up if it wasn’t a problem?  I’d use bizarre in a different context in this one.  The investigation is being expanded by Summers because he quickly realized that Webster’s list showed no fraud so he is hoping that he can expand the context and find something. 

    We will probably see something coming up in the legislature next year to change the law to further restrict it!  Just remember to go out and vote on the repeal  I don’t care how you vote, just be sure to vote!

  • Anonymous

    If Charlie Webster was just one of the posters on these boards making these, what appear to be, crazy statements we would all probably just read them, tell him that his tin foil hat was too tight and laugh at him. Unfortunately he isn’t just another crazy poster on these boards he is the Chairman of the Maine Republican Party. The party who at the current time is in control of both houses of the State legislature and the Governor’s office. Like it or not the republicans are the ones who make the rules we as citizens of the State of Maine have to live under. 

  • Anonymous

    the pay sales tax while living here.

  • Anonymous

    Buying liquor and voting is not the same.  You don’t have a constitutional right to buy liquor.  You do have a constitutional right to vote.    Plus the Bush-Gonzalez DOJ did a study in 2006 to prove that there was wide spread voting fraud.  From 2001-2005 there were 35 convictions in the US for voting fraud.  That is an average of 7 voting fraud convictions in 50 States.   That breaks down to .2 VF convictions per State.   Even if all 35 convictions was from the same case in the same community, how many elections could it possibly be turned.  Hew, lets talk about something really serious.  How daylight savings time is destroying our democracy.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to post a second time, but I forgot to include a comment on Webster’s boneheaded comment about paying taxes in order to vote.  Should we not allow someone who doesn’t own property or a car to vote? 

  • Anonymous

    What I find bizarre is that anyone would think I would bring up something that wasn’t a problem.”

    Charlie, corndog eating politicians are bizarre, what your doing is a crime. 

  • Anonymous

    What I find bizarre is that anyone would think I would bring up something that wasn’t a problem.”

    Charlie, corndog eating politicians are bizarre, what your doing is a crime. 

  • Anonymous

    Listen to this guy on talk radio and he is a complete joke. He states this is not a R&D thing yet he blames all the fraud on the democrats in his very next statement. Then he uses examples of how this fraud could have impacted results for republicans. Apparently, this is his only topic of concern.  Charlie have you ever “unregistered” in a municipality prior to registering in a new?
    Focus on something else or go away!

  • Anonymous

    If all he wants to be able to vote is pay taxes just buy a soda or to pay even more taxes buy a pack of cigs or gas.
    Seems he didn’t think this through very well as his accusation of voter fraud 

  • Anonymous

    What is stopping an out of state student from using an absentee ballot to vote back home and concurrently voting in Maine using same day registration?

  • ChuckGG

    Well, I have a better idea.  Why don’t you look up the statistics yourself?  The quoted Pew poll might be a starting point.  I also would try to Google the demographics of Tea Party Express’ers, social conservatives, and Evangelicals.  See if there is some side-by-side comparison as to income levels and education.  I suggest using reliable poll companies that are well known – Pew, Harris, etc.

    The Pew poll mentioned appears to be separate from the New York Times and CBS News poll where it said, “liberals were the most educated ideological demographic and were tied with the conservative sub-group, the “Enterprisers”, for the most affluent group.”

    So, apparently Pew did comparisons among the ideological groups and not just “liberals to the general population.”

    That said, I suggest you research the material yourself because, as a Liberal Studies major, I am more inclined to be open to all materials from all sources and to evaluate the credibility of the source, as opposed to swallowing without question the dogma of FOX News and the old-line religious institutions, both of whom are focused solely on retaining power, money, or both.

  • ChuckGG

    Well, I have a better idea.  Why don’t you look up the statistics yourself?  The quoted Pew poll might be a starting point.  I also would try to Google the demographics of Tea Party Express’ers, social conservatives, and Evangelicals.  See if there is some side-by-side comparison as to income levels and education.  I suggest using reliable poll companies that are well known – Pew, Harris, etc.

    The Pew poll mentioned appears to be separate from the New York Times and CBS News poll where it said, “liberals were the most educated ideological demographic and were tied with the conservative sub-group, the “Enterprisers”, for the most affluent group.”

    So, apparently Pew did comparisons among the ideological groups and not just “liberals to the general population.”

    That said, I suggest you research the material yourself because, as a Liberal Studies major, I am more inclined to be open to all materials from all sources and to evaluate the credibility of the source, as opposed to swallowing without question the dogma of FOX News and the old-line religious institutions, both of whom are focused solely on retaining power, money, or both.

  • ChuckGG

    Well, I have a better idea.  Why don’t you look up the statistics yourself?  The quoted Pew poll might be a starting point.  I also would try to Google the demographics of Tea Party Express’ers, social conservatives, and Evangelicals.  See if there is some side-by-side comparison as to income levels and education.  I suggest using reliable poll companies that are well known – Pew, Harris, etc.

    The Pew poll mentioned appears to be separate from the New York Times and CBS News poll where it said, “liberals were the most educated ideological demographic and were tied with the conservative sub-group, the “Enterprisers”, for the most affluent group.”

    So, apparently Pew did comparisons among the ideological groups and not just “liberals to the general population.”

    That said, I suggest you research the material yourself because, as a Liberal Studies major, I am more inclined to be open to all materials from all sources and to evaluate the credibility of the source, as opposed to swallowing without question the dogma of FOX News and the old-line religious institutions, both of whom are focused solely on retaining power, money, or both.

  • ChuckGG

    Well, I have a better idea.  Why don’t you look up the statistics yourself?  The quoted Pew poll might be a starting point.  I also would try to Google the demographics of Tea Party Express’ers, social conservatives, and Evangelicals.  See if there is some side-by-side comparison as to income levels and education.  I suggest using reliable poll companies that are well known – Pew, Harris, etc.

    The Pew poll mentioned appears to be separate from the New York Times and CBS News poll where it said, “liberals were the most educated ideological demographic and were tied with the conservative sub-group, the “Enterprisers”, for the most affluent group.”

    So, apparently Pew did comparisons among the ideological groups and not just “liberals to the general population.”

    That said, I suggest you research the material yourself because, as a Liberal Studies major, I am more inclined to be open to all materials from all sources and to evaluate the credibility of the source, as opposed to swallowing without question the dogma of FOX News and the old-line religious institutions, both of whom are focused solely on retaining power, money, or both.

  • Anonymous

    It’s pretty minor considering whole issue, but it says in the article that it is hard to get an absentee ballot.  Don’t they send those to you in the mail if you request them?

  • Anonymous

    Two things; one focus on actual voter fraud.  1) Find out if people actually voted in two places during the same election.  and 2) prosecute any one guilty of voter fraud and stop wasting our time and money on talking about the hundreds of “what ifs”.  And if the question is about students being able to be represented in our electoral process, then let’s try and remember that was one of the sticking points that brought about our revolution, that we were being taxed without representation.  Adding additional barriers to college or residential high school students (some are 18) from voting where they live 9 or 10 months out of the year is no different than England running our country without a voice in the government.

  • Anonymous

    Two things; one focus on actual voter fraud.  1) Find out if people actually voted in two places during the same election.  and 2) prosecute any one guilty of voter fraud and stop wasting our time and money on talking about the hundreds of “what ifs”.  And if the question is about students being able to be represented in our electoral process, then let’s try and remember that was one of the sticking points that brought about our revolution, that we were being taxed without representation.  Adding additional barriers to college or residential high school students (some are 18) from voting where they live 9 or 10 months out of the year is no different than England running our country without a voice in the government.

  • ChuckGG

    I am under the impression when you are in prison you lose the right to vote.  I am sure that could be checked fairly easily.  I do not think it matters if you are in State or Federal prison.

  • ChuckGG

    I am under the impression when you are in prison you lose the right to vote.  I am sure that could be checked fairly easily.  I do not think it matters if you are in State or Federal prison.

  • ChuckGG

    I am under the impression when you are in prison you lose the right to vote.  I am sure that could be checked fairly easily.  I do not think it matters if you are in State or Federal prison.

  • Benevolent Despot

    Charlie is going off the deep end.

  • Benevolent Despot

    Charlie is going off the deep end.

  • Benevolent Despot

    Charlie is going off the deep end.

  • Benevolent Despot

    Where are the statistics to prove that?

  • Anonymous

    Most students don’t own anything or make enough to pay taxes.  So if they live eight months of the year in Orono, Maine and two months on a co-op and two months with mom and dad, why is Orono not their place of residency?

    I agree they should not vote twice.

  • Anonymous

    Most students don’t own anything or make enough to pay taxes.  So if they live eight months of the year in Orono, Maine and two months on a co-op and two months with mom and dad, why is Orono not their place of residency?

    I agree they should not vote twice.

  • Anonymous

    LOL, that’s not a logical extension of the argument.  The correct, logical extension would be that every person that pays even one dollar in income tax is entitled to a vote.  If you believe otherwise, you believe in theft through government and are no better than a thief on the street.  Sorry, but that’s just how it is.  When you pay nothing in and then expect something out, it is nothing but outright theft or plunder. 

  • Anonymous

    What is stopping an out of state student from using an absentee ballot to vote back home and concurrently voting in Maine using same day registration?

  • Anonymous

    What is stopping an out of state student from using an absentee ballot to vote back home and concurrently voting in Maine using same day registration?

  • Anonymous

    Voter fraud would be voting in more than one polling place for one election.  Knoblock did not do that.  This is just an example of voter intimidation.  If I were one of the students named on the list who was not registered to vote elsewhere I would be talking to an attorney.  If there are enough students wrongly accused it could make for a class action lawsuit.

  • Anonymous

    Voter fraud would be voting in more than one polling place for one election.  Knoblock did not do that.  This is just an example of voter intimidation.  If I were one of the students named on the list who was not registered to vote elsewhere I would be talking to an attorney.  If there are enough students wrongly accused it could make for a class action lawsuit.

  • Anonymous

    49% of the US pays no fed income tax

  • Anonymous

    49% of the US pays no fed income tax

  • Anonymous

    Ignorance is bliss.  Pure bliss!!  LOLOLOLOLOL!! 

  • Anonymous

    Ignorance is bliss.  Pure bliss!!  LOLOLOLOLOL!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    Charlie does it again and the Press takes the worm. The issue is not whether students should pay taxes or not it’s that there is no issue on voter fraud in the first place. Charlie spews out some more garbage on the same insidious talking point and the conversation continues when it should have just been debunked and thrown in the trash a long time ago.

  • Anonymous

    TAX STUDENTS,  NOT BILLIONAIRES  ?

  • Anonymous

    TAX STUDENTS,  NOT BILLIONAIRES  ?

  • Benevolent Despot

    ホッホ
    Maybe….

  • Anonymous

    wow, that would be a stretch for even  a racebaiter like the good reverend jackson.

  • Anonymous

    wow, that would be a stretch for even  a racebaiter like the good reverend jackson.

  • Anonymous

    wow, that would be a stretch for even  a racebaiter like the good reverend jackson.

  • Anonymous

    ” Charlie Webster probably would have liked LeRoy Symm.Symm, the registrar of voters in Waller County, Texas, had a special questionnaire he used for college students. It included questions like: Do you own property in the county? Where did you attend church? What are your job plans?”

    Walker County TX ?
    Is that same form that had left over from the Jim Crow days ?

  • Anonymous

    Making conservatives even angrier about about how unfair life is to them.

  • Anonymous

    He is so transparent.  Of course he is disenfranchising college students. He’s suppressing the vote.  The Republicans in Florida are doing the same thing to discourage turnout.  We must guard against a government that discourages voter turnout. 

  • Anonymous

    What is keeping you from robbing a liqour store ?

  • Anonymous

    Poor analogy.  You dont need an once of prevention when theres no illness.  Disenfranchising college students certainly is a pound of cure we all can do without.  Making up a phoney list is unethical at best.

  • Anonymous

    Sad, what our so called educated are being taught.When they get older and wiser they will see the err of their ways.I just think it is sad some never just grow .

  • Anonymous

    ” to a liberal it does” …. as per the conservatives “values voters” Handbook of Standard Lies About All Liberals , at least, anyway.

  • Anonymous

    What I thought it was the GOP that didn’t want anyone to pay taxes?  Don’t they pay taxes here if the buy things?  I think its called a State Sales Tax.  Unbelieveable……

  • Anonymous

    What I thought it was the GOP that didn’t want anyone to pay taxes?  Don’t they pay taxes here if the buy things?  I think its called a State Sales Tax.  Unbelieveable……

  • Anonymous

    Oh I guess that are just the rich that the GOP doesn’t want to have to pay taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I guess that are just the rich that the GOP doesn’t want to have to pay taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I guess that are just the rich that the GOP doesn’t want to have to pay taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I guess that are just the rich that the GOP doesn’t want to have to pay taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing, now,  it is all about if they are  too damned liberal, or might be.

    But, then  everyone knows how all of those people vote, so it still works out for the GOP base supporter’s “traditional American values” , right ?

    LOL 

  • Anonymous

    Nothing, now,  it is all about if they are  too damned liberal, or might be.

    But, then  everyone knows how all of those people vote, so it still works out for the GOP base supporter’s “traditional American values” , right ?

    LOL 

  • Anonymous

    Nothing, now,  it is all about if they are  too damned liberal, or might be.

    But, then  everyone knows how all of those people vote, so it still works out for the GOP base supporter’s “traditional American values” , right ?

    LOL 

  • Anonymous

    Nothing, now,  it is all about if they are  too damned liberal, or might be.

    But, then  everyone knows how all of those people vote, so it still works out for the GOP base supporter’s “traditional American values” , right ?

    LOL 

  • Anonymous

    This dog I bites when I choose to bite, not when deliberately provoked global.

  • Anonymous

    This dog I bites when I choose to bite, not when deliberately provoked global.

  • Anonymous

    This dog I bites when I choose to bite, not when deliberately provoked global.

  • Anonymous

    This dog I bites when I choose to bite, not when deliberately provoked global.

  • Anonymous

    That does seem popular with a certain voter block, doesn’t it ?

  • Anonymous

    That does seem popular with a certain voter block, doesn’t it ?

  • Anonymous

    That does seem popular with a certain voter block, doesn’t it ?

  • Anonymous

    That does seem popular with a certain voter block, doesn’t it ?

  • Anonymous

    You’re exactly right. The state’s automated registration system allows Maine clerks to verify instantaneously, but we have no control over when other states provide us information.   The clerks asked for some relief from the crush of last-minute absentee ballots, which apparently have a lot of manual processing overhead associated with them.  Not only did they not get what they requested, but the GOP decided to piggyback on that issue to make it more difficult for voters to register.  Do you think the clerks will appreciate that when they have to spend a significant amount of time on Election Day explaining to (possibly very angry) people why they are  not allowed to vote?

  • Anonymous

    “Things would be so much better if one or two of my close friends and I were the only ones allowed to vote.”

    For one election may-be, but not for long.   : 0

  • Anonymous

    They America is their front lawn, and they want everyone off of it.

  • Anonymous

    Like ones from Florida… sometimes, when that is to their advantage ?

  • R Shaffer

    “I go for all sharing the privileges of the government who assist in bearing its burdens. Consequently, I go for admitting all whites to the right of suffrage who pay taxes or bear arms (by no means excluding females).” Abraham Lincoln, 1836

  • Anonymous

    He isn’t an embarrassment to the GOP. He is the leader of the GOP here in the State of Maine.

  • Anonymous

    You too damned liberal strict Consititutionalists, you.

    ROTFLOL.

    Quoting the Constitution to traditional American values voters ,
     or the Bible to the Christian conservative political movement members,
    and asking them to justify their policies accordingly, is a perfect politcal argument
    …. and it really does make politics about their values,  just like they claim it should be.  

    Funny how they hate it when you do as they say should be done.
    I think needs to done more, and can’t understand why it is not. 

  • Anonymous

    Eric good article. We need more of this from the BDN. Thanks

  • Anonymous

    Sure, they’re all guilty because they are just that sort of people.
    Any God fearing, real American patriots just knows all that.

    But not the LePages.  

  • Anonymous

    But hey, who let the fools take over the GOP ?
    Just what should YOU do about this, now that the extremist tail that y’all you thought you could control is wagging you around just as they do everyone else ?
    When are you going to stop whining and clean out your “Big Tent” ?

    You’ll need to air it out, too.   

  • Anonymous

    But hey, who let the fools take over the GOP ?
    Just what should YOU do about this, now that the extremist tail that y’all you thought you could control is wagging you around just as they do everyone else ?
    When are you going to stop whining and clean out your “Big Tent” ?

    You’ll need to air it out, too.   

  • Anonymous

    But hey, who let the fools take over the GOP ?
    Just what should YOU do about this, now that the extremist tail that y’all you thought you could control is wagging you around just as they do everyone else ?
    When are you going to stop whining and clean out your “Big Tent” ?

    You’ll need to air it out, too.   

  • Lori Cole

    From wikipedia:

    Cf.  Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections, 383 U.S. [as in the Supreme Court] 663 (1966), prohibiting the imposition of a poll tax or property requirements in all US elections.Cf. Dunn v. Blumstein 405 U.S. (1972):  rhe Court ruled that limits on voter registration of up to 30 to 50 days prior to an election were permissible for logistical reasons, but that residency requirements in excess of that violated equal protection as granted under the Fourteenth Amendment according to strict scrutiny.

  • Lori Cole

    From wikipedia:

    Cf.  Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections, 383 U.S. [as in the Supreme Court] 663 (1966), prohibiting the imposition of a poll tax or property requirements in all US elections.Cf. Dunn v. Blumstein 405 U.S. (1972):  rhe Court ruled that limits on voter registration of up to 30 to 50 days prior to an election were permissible for logistical reasons, but that residency requirements in excess of that violated equal protection as granted under the Fourteenth Amendment according to strict scrutiny.

  • Anonymous

    Look around the Big Tent…. isn’t that where it always comes from ?

  • Anonymous

    Look around the Big Tent…. isn’t that where it always comes from ?

  • Anonymous

    Look around the Big Tent…. isn’t that where it always comes from ?

  • Anonymous

    Look around the Big Tent…. isn’t that where it always comes from ?

  • Anonymous

    I hate to this way but why don’t you people just know that for sure … what were doing during Civics class ?

    Did they stopping teaching Civics when education funds we first chopped ?
    Seriously, did you not take a Civics class in high school ?
    If so, when did it stop being a required course ?

  • Anonymous

    Maine towns are far more restrictive and have been that way since the mid 1800′s. 

    “A voter must meet the following qualifications to vote in a municipality:

    Must be a U.S. citizen;

    Must be at least 18 years of age;

    Must have established and must maintain a voting residence in that municipality;
    Must be registered to vote in that municipality; and

    Must be enrolled in a party to vote at a caucus, convention or primary election.”‘ 

    Residence for Voting PurposesResidence is that place where the person has established a fixed and principal home to which the person, whenever temporarily absent, intends to return.  Under this definition, residence is something that a person establishes, not something a person chooses.  While the definition includes the person’s “intent to return” to a residence, it makes it clear that the residence must in fact exist, and the person must have established it as a fixed and principal home.The law does not define “fixed” or “principal” or “home”. Instead, the law provides the following factors to guide the registrar in determining whether a person has established a residence in the municipality:• A direct statement of intention by the person pursuant to section 121.1 (an “oath”);
    • The location of any dwelling currently occupied by the person;
    • The place where any motor vehicle owned by the person is registered;
    • The residence address, not a post office box, shown on a current income tax return;
    • The residence address, not a post office box, where the person receives mail;
    • The residence address, not a post office box, shown on any current resident hunting or fishing licenses held by the person.
    • The residence address, not a post office box, shown on any motor vehicle operator’s license the person holds;
    • The receipt of any public benefit conditioned upon residency, defined substantially as provided in this subsection; or
    • Any other objective facts tending to indicate a person’s place of residence.In most cases, a person only has 1 dwelling, making residency an easy factor for the registrar to determine.  However, determining residency becomes more difficult when a person owns or rents a dwelling in more than 1 municipality. In this case, the registrar determines which dwelling the person has established as a “fixed and principal home” by considering all the evidence the voter provides.Students: A person does not gain or lose a residence solely because of the person’s presence or absence while a student in any institution of learning.This may not be construed to prevent a student at any institution of learning from qualifying as a voter in the municipality where the student resides while attending that institution.  When registering students, the registrar must make the determination of residency as if they were not a student.  The same definition of residency applies, and the same sub-factors listed in 112.1.A should be used when determining residency.Students may be made aware:That they may only have 1 residence at any 1 time;That if they have declared residency in another municipality or State for any reason, and if their circumstances have not changed, the other jurisdiction may be the legal residence where they should be registered to vote.No one may register to vote in more than 1 place for any election.

  • Anonymous

    Something I just said above deserves repeating right here…

    Quoting the Constitution to traditional American values voters , or the Bible to the Christian conservative political movement members, and asking them to justify their policies accordingly, is a perfect politcal argument…. and it really does make politics about their values, just like they claim it should be.  I think needs to done more, and can’t understand why it is not.

    Can I get an Amen to that, too.   

  • Anonymous

    We have to guard even more against deadbeat voters who only want to vote on certain issues and for certain candidates; yet won’t bear the financial responsibilities that come with being a Citizen of Maine. 

  • Anonymous

    Many don’t even file Maine tax reports, despite having a variety of sources of income and maintain expensive cars. 

  • Benevolent Despot

    Are you actually rolling on the floor right now?

  • Anonymous

    Students from out of state should vote in their own state by absentee ballot if they cannot make it home. That is their responsibility.  It is pretty simple.  If they find that to difficult to do that then they should attend a school in their own state where they can get to the polls. I don’t agree with everything CW says but lets grow up a bit. Why should someone who is a part time resident help make decisions full time residents will have to live with for decades.  And although being registered in more than one place is not breaking the law,  those voters who are eligible to vote in more than one place can affect the outcome of referendums and elections and that to me is fraud knowingly or unknowingly.

  • Benevolent Despot

    I didn’t think they still have civics class in school. I remember it. Current events and all that stuff, how to fill out a tax form etc….

  • Anonymous

    You don’t need to own property to be a resident!!!!!! Ya nummy and if you work in the state you pay taxes to the State………Which one of you RW wack jobs helped get this clown in the state congress……..wow…..looking for anything to get an edge politically! Losers every one of them!

  • ChuckGG

    You will get no argument from me.  The RNC sold out to the former Dixie Democrats.  It was the beginning of the end.  I held on for as long as I could, thinking the edge of the cliff still was far away.  Too late.  Short of the Tea Party forming their own party, the RNC is doomed.  It might take a good trouncing at the polls.  In the meantime, I’m filling out the form to be an Independent.

  • Lori Cole

    Lincoln changed his mind about black people and slavery; he also changed his mind re voting.  Limited suffrage for white males in 1836 was part of the Whig platform (the party to which Lincoln belonged at that time).  By 1845, no state had property requirements for white male voters.  By the time the Republican party was formed (in 1854) it was a non-issue.  Red herring much?!

  • Lori Cole

    Lincoln changed his mind about black people and slavery; he also changed his mind re voting.  Limited suffrage for white males in 1836 was part of the Whig platform (the party to which Lincoln belonged at that time).  By 1845, no state had property requirements for white male voters.  By the time the Republican party was formed (in 1854) it was a non-issue.  Red herring much?!

  • Anonymous

    Convicted felons do no not have the right to vote…that is a separate issue from the tax one at hand, but still contentious.  We haven’t heard about it for some time.  Apparently the right to vote is selectively relevant.  

  • Anonymous

    Convicted felons do no not have the right to vote…that is a separate issue from the tax one at hand, but still contentious.  We haven’t heard about it for some time.  Apparently the right to vote is selectively relevant.  

  • ChuckGG

    All good questions.  At 56, I honestly could not tell you if government/civics classes still are being taught in schools.  Of course, if not, then this “dumbed down” crowd is understandable, albeit regrettable.

    As far as knowing if a prisoner can vote?  I guess I had it in my mind that they cannot, but then someone asked the question.  At least, I am not stating it one way or the other.  I don’t know but I am sure it would be an easy question to answer.  I do not personally know any prisoners so the question really has never come up, first-hand.

  • Anonymous

    You are so right. This was never, ever, about making it more convenient for clerks. It was not the clerks who now, or before, agitated for this change.  We know that.

  • Anonymous

    You are so right. This was never, ever, about making it more convenient for clerks. It was not the clerks who now, or before, agitated for this change.  We know that.

  • Anonymous

    You are so right. This was never, ever, about making it more convenient for clerks. It was not the clerks who now, or before, agitated for this change.  We know that.

  • Anonymous

    You are so right. This was never, ever, about making it more convenient for clerks. It was not the clerks who now, or before, agitated for this change.  We know that.

  • Anonymous

    You are so right. This was never, ever, about making it more convenient for clerks. It was not the clerks who now, or before, agitated for this change.  We know that.

  • Anonymous

    You are so right. This was never, ever, about making it more convenient for clerks. It was not the clerks who now, or before, agitated for this change.  We know that.

  • Anonymous

    An answer to the question probably would have been sufficient.  Civics classes are not generally taught in High Schools anymore.  At least they weren’t 10 years ago when I was there.  I think perhaps a course in Civility should come before a class in Civics based on the way most people behave.

  • Lori Cole

    The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

  • Lori Cole

    The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

  • Lori Cole

    The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

  • Lori Cole

    The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

  • Lori Cole

    The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

  • Lori Cole

    The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

  • Lori Cole

    The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

  • Anonymous

    “I get tired of talking about this because the law is clear,” Webster said this week. you’re right the law is clear. it was settled with the 26th amendment. so shut up about it.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!

  • Anonymous

    In other words, Republican leaders hope to bring back the poll tax, one underhanded way or another, in an attempt to disenfranchise voters they are worried might vote for Democrats.

  • Anonymous

    The time of older white men to dominate in politics is dwindling and dwindling.  The majority in this country will very soon be non-white .  Also, this younger generation does not think like a Charlie Webster. His days  in power and those of his ilk are numbered.

  • Anonymous

    Your point is understandable. It may very well lead to a real backlash next election!

  • ChuckGG

    I could not agree more.  Manners, etiquette, civility, the concept of being a gentleman – gone.  Even clothing – I would not attend a dog fight dressed the way some people show up at an event.

  • ChuckGG

    That’s what it was!  I had that in the back of my mind.  Right.  It doesn’t matter if they are in/out of prison – once you are a convicted felon, you lose the right to vote.  I wonder how all that came about?  Something to research tonight, I suppose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Nothing but the law, and nothing in the same-day registration bill will change that. Know how it could be fixed? A nice, big government, federal central voter registry.

  • Anonymous

    This Webster is so dumb, it is almost unbelievable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    So much better than my response. Snarky and to the point.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and his followers will try and justify whatever he does, especially if they think they can make the Repubs the dominant party.  They have no scruples.  Watch this backfire down the line.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    It’s sad that people in college are taught to research and draw conclusions from that, rather than simply absorbing whatever tripe they get from Glenn Beck?

  • Anonymous

    FACT:  In 2008 Obama beat McCain in the popular vote by 19.5 TIMES more votes than GWB won both of his “elections” COMBINED!  No wonder Resmuglicans hate voting so much.

  • Anonymous

    FACT:  In 2008 Obama beat McCain in the popular vote by 19.5 TIMES more votes than GWB won both of his “elections” COMBINED!  No wonder Resmuglicans hate voting so much.

  • Anonymous

    I thought the Party Line was 50 percent “don’t pay taxes?” Is the GOP having a sale?

  • Anonymous

    BS. Pure absolute BS. You have to go way back further than LBJ.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    It is legal for prisoners in Maine and Vermont to vote. As it should be. People give up their rights to many things by going to jail, but unlike many, I *do* take the Constitution seriously, which leads me to have the belief that I don’t care who you are, or where you are, you have a right to cast a ballot if you are a citizen. Giving up freedom in prison does not mean giving up citizenship.

  • Anonymous

    You are not far off the mark at all. He had quite a lot to say about Democratic voters recently.  He would like to limit voters to all Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    He’s a nut, completely. certifiable, and all of you that buy his logic (if you can call it that in the 21st century), than you aren’t too far away yourselves.

    His politic is Flinstones era. Cro-Magnon

    Next will be Jews (depending on how they vote), women and apartment-dwellers or whatever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Civics is no longer required in school, and it should be.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    It depends on the restriction. Federal law does not prohibit felons or prisoners from voting, but state law can. Whereas states can’t restrict based on things like owning property or paying taxes.

  • Anonymous

    at a cost of 17 to 25 thousand for tuition to umaine, they have paid enough

  • Anonymous

    at a cost of 17 to 25 thousand for tuition to umaine, they have paid enough

  • Anonymous

    at a cost of 17 to 25 thousand for tuition to umaine, they have paid enough

  • Anonymous

    at a cost of 17 to 25 thousand for tuition to umaine, they have paid enough

  • Anonymous

    NO, NO! Leave him there where he can highlight the mindset of the Republican/Tea Party. He’s the best thing to come along since sliced bread for the Democrat or Independents.

  • Anonymous

    So does that mean that he doesn’t want elderly people who live in homes  to vote as well?

  • Anonymous

    What’s a “tax report”?

  • Anonymous

    Which includes the elderly  in nursing homes. That would mean that they can’t vote either.

  • Anonymous

    keep hammering away at college kids who, by and large, vote democrat. the maine democrat party appreciates your help webster.

  • Anonymous

    So you are against elderly people voting?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that’s what they’re terrified of. I’m afraid, though, that even lesser minded candidates are coveting their empty seats, spewing similar -simpler – Patriot Speak whilst dumbing down the whole malarkey (e.g. Palin, that dude from Texas and Bachmann). Just because the names and faces change doesn’t mean  the discourse has.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that’s what they’re terrified of. I’m afraid, though, that even lesser minded candidates are coveting their empty seats, spewing similar -simpler – Patriot Speak whilst dumbing down the whole malarkey (e.g. Palin, that dude from Texas and Bachmann). Just because the names and faces change doesn’t mean  the discourse has.

  • Anonymous

    They pay no income tax because they earn VERY little money. Republicans don’t think that’s fair–they want to raise taxes on the poor while reducing taxes on the ultra-rich.

  • Anonymous

    They pay no income tax because they earn VERY little money. Republicans don’t think that’s fair–they want to raise taxes on the poor while reducing taxes on the ultra-rich.

  • Anonymous

    amen, perhaps only male,WASP,landowners. he is clueless and dangerous.

  • Anonymous

    amen, perhaps only male,WASP,landowners. he is clueless and dangerous.

  • Anonymous

    maybe the constitution should only apply to taxpayers. 

  • Anonymous

    maybe the constitution should only apply to taxpayers. 

  • newportres

    Elderly snowbirds?
    You mean the people that have lived their whole lives here and own property here and have a stake in what takes place here?
    You actually wish to compare them to some kid who rolls into the state for a few months, owns nothing, votes one of your pet issues, and then rolls on to the next state you wish to make an impression on?
     
    We do not need gypsy voters of any age making decisions that affect our lives and then going back home where the decisions do not affect them but at least the “snowbirds” have some stake in things here.
    That being said if those of you on the left want to play fast and loose with who can vote here then those of us on the Right who may own multiple properties and have the ability to claim residence here as well as eslewhere could easily abuse the system just as well.

  • newportres

    Elderly snowbirds?
    You mean the people that have lived their whole lives here and own property here and have a stake in what takes place here?
    You actually wish to compare them to some kid who rolls into the state for a few months, owns nothing, votes one of your pet issues, and then rolls on to the next state you wish to make an impression on?
     
    We do not need gypsy voters of any age making decisions that affect our lives and then going back home where the decisions do not affect them but at least the “snowbirds” have some stake in things here.
    That being said if those of you on the left want to play fast and loose with who can vote here then those of us on the Right who may own multiple properties and have the ability to claim residence here as well as eslewhere could easily abuse the system just as well.

  • newportres

    Elderly snowbirds?
    You mean the people that have lived their whole lives here and own property here and have a stake in what takes place here?
    You actually wish to compare them to some kid who rolls into the state for a few months, owns nothing, votes one of your pet issues, and then rolls on to the next state you wish to make an impression on?
     
    We do not need gypsy voters of any age making decisions that affect our lives and then going back home where the decisions do not affect them but at least the “snowbirds” have some stake in things here.
    That being said if those of you on the left want to play fast and loose with who can vote here then those of us on the Right who may own multiple properties and have the ability to claim residence here as well as eslewhere could easily abuse the system just as well.

  • newportres

    Elderly snowbirds?
    You mean the people that have lived their whole lives here and own property here and have a stake in what takes place here?
    You actually wish to compare them to some kid who rolls into the state for a few months, owns nothing, votes one of your pet issues, and then rolls on to the next state you wish to make an impression on?
     
    We do not need gypsy voters of any age making decisions that affect our lives and then going back home where the decisions do not affect them but at least the “snowbirds” have some stake in things here.
    That being said if those of you on the left want to play fast and loose with who can vote here then those of us on the Right who may own multiple properties and have the ability to claim residence here as well as eslewhere could easily abuse the system just as well.

  • Anonymous

    desperation is a stinky cologne, charlie.

  • Anonymous

    desperation is a stinky cologne, charlie.

  • newportres

    Elderly snowbirds?
    You mean the people that have lived their whole lives here and own property here and have a stake in what takes place here?
    You actually wish to compare them to some kid who rolls into the state for a few months, owns nothing, votes one of your pet issues, and then rolls on to the next state you wish to make an impression on?
     
    We do not need gypsy voters of any age making decisions that affect our lives and then going back home where the decisions do not affect them but at least the “snowbirds” have some stake in things here.
    That being said if those of you on the left want to play fast and loose with who can vote here then those of us on the Right who may own multiple properties and have the ability to claim residence here as well as eslewhere could easily abuse the system just as well.

  • newportres

    Elderly snowbirds?
    You mean the people that have lived their whole lives here and own property here and have a stake in what takes place here?
    You actually wish to compare them to some kid who rolls into the state for a few months, owns nothing, votes one of your pet issues, and then rolls on to the next state you wish to make an impression on?
     
    We do not need gypsy voters of any age making decisions that affect our lives and then going back home where the decisions do not affect them but at least the “snowbirds” have some stake in things here.
    That being said if those of you on the left want to play fast and loose with who can vote here then those of us on the Right who may own multiple properties and have the ability to claim residence here as well as eslewhere could easily abuse the system just as well.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see if Charlie Webster pays his fair share of taxes to Maine!

  • newportres

    You really believe that those who are most likely to break the law should also be allowed to vote on it?

  • Anonymous

    To the kid in college, where is your bill sent to?   That is address your home address and voting district

  • newportres

    First off he is not showing an ignorance of the law.  He is disagreeing with a local interpretation of what the Supreme Court might mean by their decision and I agree with him that it is a pretty loose interpretation.

    “Furthermore, in 2008 then-Attorney General Steven Rowe issued an opinion about this matter in connection with a Republican-backed bill that sought to prohibit college students living on campus from registering to vote in that community.”

    Are you claiming that this AG is infallible in his interpretation of the Scs decision or is it more likely that like you he is partisan whne it comes to his opinion on the matter?

  • newportres

    First off he is not showing an ignorance of the law.  He is disagreeing with a local interpretation of what the Supreme Court might mean by their decision and I agree with him that it is a pretty loose interpretation.

    “Furthermore, in 2008 then-Attorney General Steven Rowe issued an opinion about this matter in connection with a Republican-backed bill that sought to prohibit college students living on campus from registering to vote in that community.”

    Are you claiming that this AG is infallible in his interpretation of the Scs decision or is it more likely that like you he is partisan whne it comes to his opinion on the matter?

  • newportres

    First off he is not showing an ignorance of the law.  He is disagreeing with a local interpretation of what the Supreme Court might mean by their decision and I agree with him that it is a pretty loose interpretation.

    “Furthermore, in 2008 then-Attorney General Steven Rowe issued an opinion about this matter in connection with a Republican-backed bill that sought to prohibit college students living on campus from registering to vote in that community.”

    Are you claiming that this AG is infallible in his interpretation of the Scs decision or is it more likely that like you he is partisan whne it comes to his opinion on the matter?

  • newportres

    First off he is not showing an ignorance of the law.  He is disagreeing with a local interpretation of what the Supreme Court might mean by their decision and I agree with him that it is a pretty loose interpretation.

    “Furthermore, in 2008 then-Attorney General Steven Rowe issued an opinion about this matter in connection with a Republican-backed bill that sought to prohibit college students living on campus from registering to vote in that community.”

    Are you claiming that this AG is infallible in his interpretation of the Scs decision or is it more likely that like you he is partisan whne it comes to his opinion on the matter?

  • newportres

    First off he is not showing an ignorance of the law.  He is disagreeing with a local interpretation of what the Supreme Court might mean by their decision and I agree with him that it is a pretty loose interpretation.

    “Furthermore, in 2008 then-Attorney General Steven Rowe issued an opinion about this matter in connection with a Republican-backed bill that sought to prohibit college students living on campus from registering to vote in that community.”

    Are you claiming that this AG is infallible in his interpretation of the Scs decision or is it more likely that like you he is partisan whne it comes to his opinion on the matter?

  • newportres

    First off he is not showing an ignorance of the law.  He is disagreeing with a local interpretation of what the Supreme Court might mean by their decision and I agree with him that it is a pretty loose interpretation.

    “Furthermore, in 2008 then-Attorney General Steven Rowe issued an opinion about this matter in connection with a Republican-backed bill that sought to prohibit college students living on campus from registering to vote in that community.”

    Are you claiming that this AG is infallible in his interpretation of the Scs decision or is it more likely that like you he is partisan whne it comes to his opinion on the matter?

  • newportres

    And the district in which you live should not be determined by where you happen to be hanging your hat for a week.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    As this whole farce has unfolded, I’ve particularly enjoyed the “brandished a list” moment.  It’s like he assumes no one will ever have heard of Senator Joseph McCarthy.

  • A shmidt

    You are allowed to vote in Maine if you are in prison.

  • A shmidt

    You are allowed to vote in Maine if you are in prison.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    Nope. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Hillary Clinton was never president, and never  signed any major, far reaching legislation. She’s merely Secretary of State.

    Criticism and saying one wished LBJ should never have never signed voting and civil rights legislation are not the same. He (samadams_knows) is criticizing the acts, not the person. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    Nope. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Hillary Clinton was never president, and never  signed any major, far reaching legislation. She’s merely Secretary of State.

    Criticism and saying one wished LBJ should never have never signed voting and civil rights legislation are not the same. He (samadams_knows) is criticizing the acts, not the person. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    Nope. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Hillary Clinton was never president, and never  signed any major, far reaching legislation. She’s merely Secretary of State.

    Criticism and saying one wished LBJ should never have never signed voting and civil rights legislation are not the same. He (samadams_knows) is criticizing the acts, not the person. 

  • A shmidt

    Not true. Felons are allowed to vote. In prison or out. The SCOTUS ruled on that several years ago.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    Paying taxes is not a condition to be able to vote.  Give up this issue, it’s a losing one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    when you register, the town clerk sends a notice to the state that you are moving from to tell them you have registered in a new town.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    have you bothered to check who those 46% are?  Do your research….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    have you bothered to check who those 46% are?  Do your research….

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    You are incorrect. It depends on the state. Some states deny the vote to convicted felons, which smacks of the unconstitutional to me. After all, if they’ve done the time, and paid their so-called debt to society, why are they disenfranchised once they are out.

    And as a side note, in both Maine and Vermont, prisoners are also allowed to vote. One of the things I like about Maine is that this is so. No one, and I mean NO ONE should be disenfranchised as long as they are a citizen of the US. To do otherwise is to put us at the level of a third world country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    You are incorrect. It depends on the state. Some states deny the vote to convicted felons, which smacks of the unconstitutional to me. After all, if they’ve done the time, and paid their so-called debt to society, why are they disenfranchised once they are out.

    And as a side note, in both Maine and Vermont, prisoners are also allowed to vote. One of the things I like about Maine is that this is so. No one, and I mean NO ONE should be disenfranchised as long as they are a citizen of the US. To do otherwise is to put us at the level of a third world country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    You are incorrect. It depends on the state. Some states deny the vote to convicted felons, which smacks of the unconstitutional to me. After all, if they’ve done the time, and paid their so-called debt to society, why are they disenfranchised once they are out.

    And as a side note, in both Maine and Vermont, prisoners are also allowed to vote. One of the things I like about Maine is that this is so. No one, and I mean NO ONE should be disenfranchised as long as they are a citizen of the US. To do otherwise is to put us at the level of a third world country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    You are incorrect. It depends on the state. Some states deny the vote to convicted felons, which smacks of the unconstitutional to me. After all, if they’ve done the time, and paid their so-called debt to society, why are they disenfranchised once they are out.

    And as a side note, in both Maine and Vermont, prisoners are also allowed to vote. One of the things I like about Maine is that this is so. No one, and I mean NO ONE should be disenfranchised as long as they are a citizen of the US. To do otherwise is to put us at the level of a third world country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    You are incorrect. It depends on the state. Some states deny the vote to convicted felons, which smacks of the unconstitutional to me. After all, if they’ve done the time, and paid their so-called debt to society, why are they disenfranchised once they are out.

    And as a side note, in both Maine and Vermont, prisoners are also allowed to vote. One of the things I like about Maine is that this is so. No one, and I mean NO ONE should be disenfranchised as long as they are a citizen of the US. To do otherwise is to put us at the level of a third world country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    You are incorrect. It depends on the state. Some states deny the vote to convicted felons, which smacks of the unconstitutional to me. After all, if they’ve done the time, and paid their so-called debt to society, why are they disenfranchised once they are out.

    And as a side note, in both Maine and Vermont, prisoners are also allowed to vote. One of the things I like about Maine is that this is so. No one, and I mean NO ONE should be disenfranchised as long as they are a citizen of the US. To do otherwise is to put us at the level of a third world country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1063165669 Jill Fletcher

    They are not really residents of Maine. They’re just attending school here. Unless they pay In-State tuition rates they should vote in their home state. Otherwise, should the 18 year old student who grew up in California be deciding on issues that affect the people living day to day in Maine and they have no familiarity with the politics economics etc and deciding if your taxes should be raised amongst other things? I’m all for promoting voting in the state you are a resident of. After all- if the University doesn’t see the student as qualifying for “in state tuition rates” then why are they voting? Maine doesn’t let 1/2 time (summer) residents who pay property taxes vote. But we should let 18 year olds who don’t even qualify for in state tuition rates be able to?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=537079947 R. Kenneth Lindell

    OMG!  Charlie Webster has lost it.  I’ll be telling him so at the Maine GOP State Committee meeting on September 10th.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Charlie!!!  Would these taxes be levied at the favorable millionaire’s rate or the rate that the rest of us pay?

  • Anonymous

    “Phone list”???? He was pretty clear when he presented that list, that the potential for voter fraud existed, but laws prevented him from confirming  if anyone on that  list did indeed commit voter fraud. So your use of the term “unethical at best” and “phoney” is basicaly…………well, unethical at best.

    Do you not at least admit  the potential for  voter fraud exists in this situation?

  • Benevolent Despot

    That made me laugh out loud. Thank you!

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t they outlaw the poll tax?  Where is America going? Got to get people elected who don’t hate so much.

  • Anonymous

    Am I hearing right? Essentially, according to Webster, one must own property in order to vote. That not only would deprive college students the right to vote, but anyone who rents. I suppose it also applies to anyone whose name is not personally listed on a home’s property tax bill, even if they therein reside. Wait a minute….Do I correctly recall that GOP Governor LePage stated his house is solely in his wife’s name? (I’m recalling the quasi scandal over taking a double heaping of the homestead act money the Mr. & Mrs. Gov got from Maine and Florida.)

  • StillRelaxin

    Charlie Webster and his misplaced fixation on college voters is the gift that keeps on giving for the Democratic party. Every time old Charlie brings this issue up he makes himself and his party look petty and desperate. G0 Charlie go! The Democratic Party loves the lost cause and sick message you keep trying to peddle to a public which is definitely smarter than you think they are.

  • StillRelaxin

    Charlie Webster and his misplaced fixation on college voters is the gift that keeps on giving for the Democratic party. Every time old Charlie brings this issue up he makes himself and his party look petty and desperate. G0 Charlie go! The Democratic Party loves the lost cause and sick message you keep trying to peddle to a public which is definitely smarter than you think they are.

  • StillRelaxin

    Charlie Webster and his misplaced fixation on college voters is the gift that keeps on giving for the Democratic party. Every time old Charlie brings this issue up he makes himself and his party look petty and desperate. G0 Charlie go! The Democratic Party loves the lost cause and sick message you keep trying to peddle to a public which is definitely smarter than you think they are.

  • StillRelaxin

    Charlie Webster and his misplaced fixation on college voters is the gift that keeps on giving for the Democratic party. Every time old Charlie brings this issue up he makes himself and his party look petty and desperate. G0 Charlie go! The Democratic Party loves the lost cause and sick message you keep trying to peddle to a public which is definitely smarter than you think they are.

  • StillRelaxin

    Charlie Webster and his misplaced fixation on college voters is the gift that keeps on giving for the Democratic party. Every time old Charlie brings this issue up he makes himself and his party look petty and desperate. G0 Charlie go! The Democratic Party loves the lost cause and sick message you keep trying to peddle to a public which is definitely smarter than you think they are.

  • http://jasonclarke.org Jason

    This would be a compelling read if it were placed in the Opinion section where it belongs, or in the pages of a left-leaning magazine. As a straight news article, it’s not only offensive to the intelligence of readers, it doesn’t even follow the basic standards of reporting.

    Eric, you may be under pressure by your bosses to turn out more “gotcha” or “hard” reporting from the political beat, but I can assure you, this won’t cut it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WLRO7OGEC43RKTSZUSJLRDQKQA Gary

    I thought the GOP was against taxes of any kind for anyone.  Guess I was wrong!

  • Anonymous

    And the birthers are at it again!  What next, jail time for anyone who speaks out against the GOP governing politbureau?  OMG, someone is knocking at the door…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EJOGAIS4HSNBZLQLVNEOZFYVBY RonG

    3 party elections often lead to the wrong person getting elected ???? we havent done very well with 2 party elections have we? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EJOGAIS4HSNBZLQLVNEOZFYVBY RonG

    3 party elections often lead to the wrong person getting elected ???? we havent done very well with 2 party elections have we? 

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster is just plain ignorant.   I do not know why the press continues to interview him.

  • Anonymous

    What a clown.

    If voting was only allowed to people who pay taxes,

    then lots of rich people wouldn’t be allowed to vote.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you.
    Conservative thinking became clear to me when I realized they are always snarky to or about their thier political opposition, just never direct and to the point.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you.
    Conservative thinking became clear to me when I realized they are always snarky to or about their thier political opposition, just never direct and to the point.

  • Anonymous

    College kids are notoriously stupid when it comes to politics. (liberal 101).   Wait until you get a job guys.  I was a liberal until I got a job and  paid taxes.  I wouldn’t even work if I paid the kind of taxes college professors would like everyone to pay.  See why they always need raises….You pay their taxes and it’s a non-issue to them.  End tenure….and purge the system of the effluent, affluent, pond scum , can’t be fired , tenured protected, trash, professors.  

  • Anonymous

    Using Webster’s logic this means we need to either allow NH residents working in Maine to vote here, or better yet quit making them pay taxes without representation.  Probably won’t see Webster start a movement in that direction.

  • Anonymous

    Some were very good….Keepers.    2/3 of my professors were ….hair pulling, self abusing, eye gouging, ranting, raving, liberal, idiopathic trash. 

  • Anonymous

    trying to keep people from voting is devilishly contraire.

  • Anonymous

    Students do pay sales taxes, same as a tourist or a resident.

  • Anonymous

    Now if we had  IRV, Instant Runoff Voting, a three-way, or even a five-way, race (recently I remember one of those in the state…) might actually get us to the point of electing who the people really do want to govern them, instead of the “least worst.”

    Haven’t we had enough of Least Worst?  If we had five parties, of varying strengths, and with different constituencies, they would need to learn to work together, compromise, work in coalition or nothing would get done (sound familiar?)

  • dadoje

    the house he resided in owned by his wife has been sold they own no property in Maine only Florida.

  • Anonymous

    So the Gas tax they pay, or the Income tax they pay from working jobs don’t count as paying taxes?

  • Anonymous

    He’s dangerous but not clueless.R’s steal elections all the time.

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    Such strong words from someone not willing to use their real name. Brave, so very brave you are.

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    More to the point:

    Why has not one prominent Maine Republican denounced the Chair of their Party?

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    Would love for you to tape that meeting and post it on YouTube.

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    Students have a right to register in the town where they live while in college. It doesn’t matter if you agree with it or not – that is the law.

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    Students have a right to register in the town where they live while in college. It doesn’t matter if you agree with it or not – that is the law.

  • Anonymous

    waste of a post

  • Anonymous

    waste of a post

  • Anonymous

    does not include the elderly in nursing homes.  These are people who work and file 

  • Anonymous

    Those are the ones that pay taxes now.Honest hard working people.Not R’s who have contributed NOTHING to this society and are taking everything out of it.Don ‘t lie.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wait for it!That liar Falwell is dead.Hopefully the rest will soon follow and America will be great again.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wait for it!That liar Falwell is dead.Hopefully the rest will soon follow and America will be great again.

  • Anonymous

    And tax the Southern churches until they disappear.The harm they have done is immeasureable.

  • Anonymous

    And tax the Southern churches until they disappear.The harm they have done is immeasureable.

  • Anonymous

    And tax the Southern churches until they disappear.The harm they have done is immeasureable.

  • Anonymous

    These folks shouldn’t be voting here they should be voting in their homestate in the first place.  It’s time to ban all out of state college students from voting in Maine and time to mandate State ID’s for everything including voting.  But we can’t have that the Liberals and Welfare Leeches would be up in arms.   The Liberals want to continue the failed status quo that Maine has had for 40 years with Liberal Democrats running the show unchecked.  They will continue to drive the Economy into the toilet businesses and people leaving in droves, raising taxes through the roof, borrowing hundreds of millions to expand Welfare for these folks, our schools failing like they have been for years.  The Liberals think everything was rosy the last 36 years hello we are dead last in everything.  It’s time to send these college folks and Welfare Leeches south say Massachusetts let “Mini Obama”  Deval Patrick have these folks.   It’s time to continue sending Maine in the right economic direction with lower taxes, less welfare , more jobs and more freedom.

  • Anonymous

    Even when I returned to Maine, I still had to pay gas taxes (I had to attend meetings there, ergo buy gas) AND income taxes (as some of my income was still from MA) there. Does that mean I should be able to vote in both places? I was also paying  gas and income taxes in Maine. Those criteria won’t wash. Theoretically at least, you vote where your established residence is, not where you pay taxes. And who’s qualified to decide what those taxes should be? The very people who have enough invested interest in their state to have established residency.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621836715 Kevin Schmidt

    That’s because they either don’t work or don’t make enough money to overcome the deduction.

    Meanwhile, the upper 1% and the big corporations pay less of a % of their income in taxes than does the middle class.

    Why should the deficit be shouldered by the people who can least afford it?

  • Anonymous

    They aren’t permanent Maine residents they are just college students going to school here to earn a degree.  If they were permanent Maine residents paying property taxes, income taxes and working a job then I wouldn’t have no problem with it.  But they can come in here and start mooching off of the Welfare System that is what we don’t  need anymore of.

  • Anonymous

    They aren’t permanent Maine residents they are just college students going to school here to earn a degree.  If they were permanent Maine residents paying property taxes, income taxes and working a job then I wouldn’t have no problem with it.  But they can come in here and start mooching off of the Welfare System that is what we don’t  need anymore of.

  • OldWench

    “I get tired of talking about this because the law is clear,” Webster said this week. “If I want to vote, I need to establish residency. I need to register my car and pay taxes in that community. You can’t just become a student and vote wherever you want.”
    I hate to break it to Mr. Webster, but there are plenty of people who have lived their entire lives in Maine who don’t own a car, rent instead of own and either are or have been unemployed or full time students.  Out of state students pay the same sales tax while in Maine that every other resident does.  This guy is a complete tool…

  • OldWench

    “I get tired of talking about this because the law is clear,” Webster said this week. “If I want to vote, I need to establish residency. I need to register my car and pay taxes in that community. You can’t just become a student and vote wherever you want.”
    I hate to break it to Mr. Webster, but there are plenty of people who have lived their entire lives in Maine who don’t own a car, rent instead of own and either are or have been unemployed or full time students.  Out of state students pay the same sales tax while in Maine that every other resident does.  This guy is a complete tool…

  • Anonymous

    In theory, yes, but the very fact that many of the town clerks don’t follow this procedure (see testimonials above) opens the door and puts out the welcome mat for fraud.

  • Anonymous

    In theory, yes, but the very fact that many of the town clerks don’t follow this procedure (see testimonials above) opens the door and puts out the welcome mat for fraud.

  • Anonymous

    You think Democrats are better LOL.  That is great about being an Independent you don’t have to put up with the nonsense that the 2 parties have become. Being an Independent you can always criticize both sides as well. But Republicans are trying to fix the 36 years of failure Maine Democrats caused this state.

  • Anonymous

    You think Democrats are better LOL.  That is great about being an Independent you don’t have to put up with the nonsense that the 2 parties have become. Being an Independent you can always criticize both sides as well. But Republicans are trying to fix the 36 years of failure Maine Democrats caused this state.

  • Anonymous

    You think Democrats are better LOL.  That is great about being an Independent you don’t have to put up with the nonsense that the 2 parties have become. Being an Independent you can always criticize both sides as well. But Republicans are trying to fix the 36 years of failure Maine Democrats caused this state.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621836715 Kevin Schmidt

    What does that have to do with the right to vote besides nothing?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621836715 Kevin Schmidt

    What does that have to do with the right to vote besides nothing?

  • Anonymous

    If the Republicans lose the legislature in 2012, it will have much more to do with Charlie Webster than with college students voting.  Charlie Webster is a disgrace. 

  • Anonymous

    If the Republicans lose the legislature in 2012, it will have much more to do with Charlie Webster than with college students voting.  Charlie Webster is a disgrace. 

  • Anonymous

    If the Republicans lose the legislature in 2012, it will have much more to do with Charlie Webster than with college students voting.  Charlie Webster is a disgrace. 

  • Anonymous

    “A nice, big government, federal central voter registry.” I was under the impression that such a thing existed. If not, should it?

  • Anonymous

    “A nice, big government, federal central voter registry.” I was under the impression that such a thing existed. If not, should it?

  • Anonymous

    “A nice, big government, federal central voter registry.” I was under the impression that such a thing existed. If not, should it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621836715 Kevin Schmidt

    We could spend the money on prosecuting the guy for election fraud.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621836715 Kevin Schmidt

    We could spend the money on prosecuting the guy for election fraud.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621836715 Kevin Schmidt

    We could spend the money on prosecuting the guy for election fraud.

  • Anonymous

    He was a Liberal Democrat State Rep/Senator (FARMINGTON) for years in the Legislature 80′s – early 2000′s (Chandler Woodcock took his place) and with Liberal Dems help raised alot of taxes voted. He voted the Dem Party Line while in Legislature,  before he became the Republican Chairman.  So he has played both sides.

  • Anonymous

    Well then, how about we allow same-day voter registration, but require all same day registerees to cast provisional ballots. These ballots would be counted only if proper registration could be verified. I’d go for that.

  • Anonymous

    Will the BDN just stop carrying this fool..or at least move him to the comic section…nah, he’s not even funny…just a goon.

  • OldWench

    If a student is paying tuition in the state of Maine and have to live under the leadership and laws of Maine while attending college here they have EVERY RIGHT to vote here, because while they are in school, this is where they reside.  They pay sales tax in Maine, too.  Just because the majority of people with an education won’t vote for radical right wingers doesn’t mean you can keep them from voting.  It’s their constitutional right…and the more the tea party tools push this the more ignorant they look and the more they turn people off.  Next thing you know you’ll try to keep old people and women from voting too.  

  • Anonymous

    Ben Grant is the same with the Dems so it’s not much better.  Everyone should just become an Independent you don’t get the foolishness that you get having these 2 folks running these 2 parties.

  • OldWench

    Um…if a student pays tuition in Maine, lives in Maine, pays sales tax in Maine and has to live under the laws and elected officials in Maine then they have every right to VOTE in Maine.  Don’t like it then perhaps you should move to a state more in line with your political beliefs.

  • Anonymous

    Wrong its about fixing the problem so people don’t break laws with voter fraud, illegally getting tax breaks in more than 1 state, marching into DHHS and jumping on  the Welfare Wagon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kate.sibole Kate Q. Sibole

    Let’s encourage our students to be engaged in and out of the class room. There is no positive pay off in eliminating or even limiting a young person’s political and social input. This is truly about unfounded, ego driven Charlie Webster sized fear.

  • Anonymous

    How is the ideas that President Obama doing for you.  Sure is working well for all of us 9%+ unemployment, failed stimulus, Stimulus 2  coming next week in a speech to congress, Bank Bailouts, Car Company Bailouts, Wall Street Bailouts, ObamaCare, Unlimited Unemployment Benefits.  Sure working well for the Leeches but us working folks have had enough and want him gone.

  • Anonymous

    It is not against the constitution to give a deadline for voter registration , if this was true everything with a deadline that deals with the government would be un constitutional such as april 15th for taxes

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, that’s is what the “Absentee Ballot” procedure is for.  It’s easy to do and insures the political system remains intact and appropriated funds are voted where they are spent. It’s difficut to comprehend why one would desire their vote in their town or state where they may or may not pay taxes but are directly effected be over-turned by voters who reside 1000′s of miles and sometimes several timezones removed from the local community ballot box. It’s also difficult to comprehend the insanity has infected our clear thinking recently. Have we all gone nuts?
     

  • Anonymous

    Ok, you missed my point about preventing abuse. Still, it strikes me that if a constitutional right is involved, you, as a person entitled to such a right, have an even MORE vested interest in preventing abuse of that right than you would in the case of a societal vested right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Know who’s a welfare leech? Exxon Mobil. Oil subsidies and farm subsidies combined total the entire TANF budget for the entire country. Yet I don’t see a conservative backlash.

  • Anonymous

    Can someone explain to me why someone who may never pay taxes in this state should be able to vote on issues that involve this state, but I guess organizations like acorn can get by with dragging  illegals to the booths so where do we draw the line 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    So those rich property-tax-paying people in the MDI region and that subsidize your way of life should go vote in Florida, where they live in the winter, yes?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    So those rich property-tax-paying people in the MDI region and that subsidize your way of life should go vote in Florida, where they live in the winter, yes?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    It does not, actually. Each state has their own.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    It does not, actually. Each state has their own.

  • Anonymous

    most of us  real mainers, not transplanted ones dont appreciate the democratic party already!!!!!!! 

  • Anonymous

    most of us  real mainers, not transplanted ones dont appreciate the democratic party already!!!!!!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    46.4%. 23.3% are young kids with part time jobs or families that make under $20k, 10.2% are elderly on Social Security, 4.5% are rich people who use loopholes who escape paying taxes, and 8.4% are working class people who somehow manage it through loopholes I guess.

    Other than the 12.9% who may need to be paying a little something, you think we should balance the budget on the backs of elderly on fixed incomes and people in poverty, I suppose?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    46.4%. 23.3% are young kids with part time jobs or families that make under $20k, 10.2% are elderly on Social Security, 4.5% are rich people who use loopholes who escape paying taxes, and 8.4% are working class people who somehow manage it through loopholes I guess.

    Other than the 12.9% who may need to be paying a little something, you think we should balance the budget on the backs of elderly on fixed incomes and people in poverty, I suppose?

  • Anonymous

    if they did any of the over the road truck drivers who pay fuel tax in almost every state could vote everywhere   think about it!!

  • Anonymous

    if they did any of the over the road truck drivers who pay fuel tax in almost every state could vote everywhere   think about it!!

  • Anonymous

    yup thats exactly what we need another big government run center   they all run so efficiently dont you know 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Actually, that means we believe in the Constitution, which OUTLAWS POLL TAXES.

  • Anonymous

    Um…. yes. Perhaps I’m missing your point. If Florida is their established residence (and for many of them it is), then, yeah, they should vote there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Denis-Cranson/1347781823 Denis Cranson

    Voter fraud would be if a person votes TWICE, not adhering to the “one person/one vote” principle.  Maine’s GOP is MORE than happy to to take student’s sales taxes and other fees while they are attending college, so they ARE paying taxes.  This is nothing more than political movement to favor the GOP.  We should encourage MORE voting, not impede the process.   Assinine logic coming from the Party of No…

  • Anonymous

    So, SHOULD we have such a central voter registry?

  • Anonymous

    the reason for the big deficit is an easy one  actuall there are five reasons O B A M A !!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Then your argument holds no water. Students are here for more months of the year than snowbirds. If we’re going based on length of stay, snowbirds are domiciled in the warmer climates longer, while students are in their communities nine months out of the year. Frankly, both groups should be able to vote, but if we’re picking one then yours loses.

    You just support their right to vote because they vote Republican.

  • Anonymous

    if they are living on the dole you can be sure they will vote for all govt programs the liberals throw out there

  • Anonymous

    The article linked paying taxes with voting

  • Anonymous

    Never stated anything other than 49% do not pay fed income tax. 

    Given that statistic, how do you link the poor, who pay no taxes, with shouldering the deficit.

    Nearly two thirds of all income taxes are paid by the highest 10% of earners. 

    Given that statistic, aren’t the “rich” already shouldering the deficit?

  • Anonymous

    Never stated anything other than 49% do not pay fed income tax. 
     
    Given that statistic, how do you link the poor, who pay no taxes, with shouldering the deficit.
     
    Nearly two thirds of all income taxes are paid by the highest 10% of earners. 
     
    Given that statistic, aren’t the “rich” already shouldering the deficit?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry but your comments do not resonate with me. Maybe someone else?

  • Anonymous

    Why wouldn’t the college students want to pay Maine taxes?  If they vote here surely they want to pay their “fair share”.  Just like everyone else.

  • Anonymous

    What in the world does this have to do with my post?

    What is keeping me from the robbing a liquor is my personal belief system and morality.  Knowing the distinction between right and wrong.

    What would keep you from robbing a liquor store?

  • Anonymous

    Ignorance is bliss

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    If a student is paying out of state tuition, they have no local “residence”

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Of course, their “fair share” will always be less than what they deem to be your “fair share”.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    … only if they are paying in-state tuition.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention that most of the snowbirds register their cars in FL.  Isn’t that one of the criteria mentioned by Mr. Webster, that to be a true Maine resident they must register their vehicle in Maine?  I see a lot of elderly driving around with Sunshine State plates in the summer.

  • Anonymous

    We already have a challenged ballot process for people whose registration is in doubt. 

  • Anonymous

    We already have a challenged ballot process for people whose registration is in doubt. 

  • Anonymous

    We already have a challenged ballot process for people whose registration is in doubt. 

  • Anonymous

    We already have a challenged ballot process for people whose registration is in doubt. 

  • Anonymous

    We already have a challenged ballot process for people whose registration is in doubt. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILQEZVIHNMGLF27B2ZNZMUDLYA Bre

    This comment is hysterical!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILQEZVIHNMGLF27B2ZNZMUDLYA Bre

    This comment is hysterical!

  • Anonymous

    im a GOP and webster honestly shut it if you wanna bolster your ranks increase the absentee ballot  time to catch more of the traveling workers

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILQEZVIHNMGLF27B2ZNZMUDLYA Bre

    With that logic “familiarity with the politics” you may as well say that residents who haven’t lived here very long shouldn’t be allowed to vote either…  Doesn’t make sense to me.  I returned to Maine for college after a few years living ‘away’ and voted my very first semester as a student, and paying out-of-state tuition at the time.  I’ve been living and attending school here since then.  Students are here more than 1/2 time Summer residents…  The decisions made within our government have an affect on their day-t0-day lives for 9 months out of the year.  Arguments aside, I really don’t think that what Webster is after is fairness.  It’s just another way to repress what is typically a democratic population.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILQEZVIHNMGLF27B2ZNZMUDLYA Bre

    With that logic “familiarity with the politics” you may as well say that residents who haven’t lived here very long shouldn’t be allowed to vote either…  Doesn’t make sense to me.  I returned to Maine for college after a few years living ‘away’ and voted my very first semester as a student, and paying out-of-state tuition at the time.  I’ve been living and attending school here since then.  Students are here more than 1/2 time Summer residents…  The decisions made within our government have an affect on their day-t0-day lives for 9 months out of the year.  Arguments aside, I really don’t think that what Webster is after is fairness.  It’s just another way to repress what is typically a democratic population.

  • Anonymous

    Only if you trust the feds to get it right.  Personally, I don’t.  A big clearinghouse database with all that voter information? A big ripe target for hacking, although it’s much more likely that valid voters will either get purged in error or incorrectly data entered by the people managing it.  Either way, voters will get turned away at the polls when they shouldn’t.  Also, every state has different voting laws.  It would be IMPOSSIBLE to create a centrally managed federal system that worked for every state.

  • Anonymous

    Only if you trust the feds to get it right.  Personally, I don’t.  A big clearinghouse database with all that voter information? A big ripe target for hacking, although it’s much more likely that valid voters will either get purged in error or incorrectly data entered by the people managing it.  Either way, voters will get turned away at the polls when they shouldn’t.  Also, every state has different voting laws.  It would be IMPOSSIBLE to create a centrally managed federal system that worked for every state.

  • Anonymous

    They aren’t permanent Maine residents they are just college students going to school here to earn a degree. how do get from that to mooching off the welfare system? most welfare mooches don’t have college degrees.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Ed, very well aware of the 24th amendment ratified in 1964 under LBJ.  Still not a component of the original constitution, but a component nonetheless.  This does not  refute the argument extended at the behest of Eric Scot Taylor, above, who indicated that someone paying a tax on 10K should pay less than someone at 100K.  This concept remains a fallacy in regards to its efficacy at achieving fairness.  This is  nothing less than the progressive concept of fair income taxation.  It has been a failure since its inception.  It will remain a failure in the future.  And there is simply NOTHING you can do to change that reality.  Thanks again.   

  • Anonymous

    ” illegally getting tax breaks in more than 1 state” – Like our current governor?

  • Anonymous

    ” illegally getting tax breaks in more than 1 state” – Like our current governor?

  • Anonymous

    naah, only 40%

  • Anonymous

    naah, only 40%

  • Anonymous

    naah, only 40%

  • Anonymous

    that is very true

  • Anonymous

    that is very true

  • Anonymous

    that is very true

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    At least you’re consistent, unlike most.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    At least you’re consistent, unlike most.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Then you’re going to have to keep depending on what we have up until now — good old-fashioned honesty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Then you’re going to have to keep depending on what we have up until now — good old-fashioned honesty.

  • Anonymous

    Here is a guy with what he thinks is a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.  He has to much time on his hands.

  • Anonymous

    “It is a tale told by an id1ot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”  — Shakespeare, “MacBeth.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Wow, you really don’t get it, do you? The same thing preventing you from robbing a liquor store is preventing the student from voting in two places. LAWS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    So you think people who can’t afford to buy food on their measly wage should be paying taxes. Wow.

  • Anonymous

    I worked for 37 years at the same job, no union, and believe me, I contributed to society.

  • Anonymous

    I worked for 37 years at the same job, no union, and believe me, I contributed to society.

  • Anonymous

    If it took the BDN a month, do you really believe that our overworked and understaffed town clerks will be able to do this in two days? It’s a ridiculous, arbitrary requirement that means nothing except that some legitimate voters will not be able to register and vote because they didn’t meet the cutoff.  It will not keep voters intent on committing fraud from doing so.

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice to see regulation that requires a person to register their vehicles in the town they are registering to vote.  Another plus of this is they would have to follow Maine insurance laws.
    And as part of the “Get out and Vote” campaign, maybe those organizers can start ahead of time and help students request an absentee ballot from their hometown.

  • Anonymous

    You have no logic to your argument.  If someone moves here for six months, pays rent and then decides to move somewhere else,  you would deprive them of voting!  I think you just don’t like college students, or perhaps you don’t like the way they generally vote.

    By the way, are Mainers who go to college in other states also moochers?

    I am 65 and, I guess because I have only lived here 40 years (I was one of those students who stayed here) my opinion doesn’t count. 

  • Anonymous

    Hussar — That’s Town Meeting, not “town hall meeting.” Lots of folks from away make that mistake.

  • Anonymous

    When I was a college student (at Colby) I spent 9 months of the year in Maine and 3 months of the year working a summer job in upstate New York.  According to Charlie Summers, I would have been required to vote in New Jersey because that was my parent’s residence – despite the fact that during my four years of college, I may have spent a total of 8 weeks there.

    Charlie Summers needs to go to Oz and ask the wizard for a brain.  If he’s lucky, he won’t be required to provide any of Michelle Bachmann’s personal belongings in exchange.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie, you are more than a few bricks shy of a load, and don’t try telling us you don’t know it.

  • Anonymous

    You just didn’t know what was going on. This is an issue that has been resolved decades ago, and when GOPTPartiers slip off their nuts they bring this crap up again. Charlie has been showing scary signs, I hope people are paying attention and can help him avoid a tragedy. The absentee balot has nothing to do with student voters who are no longer residents of communities they came from.

  • Anonymous

    If you had voted in both states you might just have a poorly done tatoo about now. Don’t kid yourself. There is a process.

  • Anonymous

    If it results in denial of right to cast a ballot you bet your sweet bibby it’s agains the constitution. Did you just make that up? Because I don’t think that’s what this forum is for. Take this example: suppose I just got out of prison on election day having done unspeekable things to your mother and having spent 10 years at Warren. I want to vote. Are you telling me I couldn’t vote just because I couldn’t register in time due to circumstances beyond my control?

  • Anonymous

    I swear to God. If you post anything like Welfare Leeches one more time, I can’t be responsible.

  • http://profiles.google.com/retired04497 Mike Kiernan

    This ‘real Mainer’ type crap is what has so many of our kids leaving the State and not comng back. It’s also the reason why so many people, who come here thinking that Maine might be where they want to set up a business and live and grow a family, leave so dammed quick when they hear this backwoods clan crap. Maine, friendly ? One blast from some of these Maine homie’s and it’s a drag race to see which business can get ouuta the State the quickest. And when they do, so does their development money and any hope of improving the economic development of Maine. Webster and his bunch of Tea Party folks are only perpetuating the image of a Maine full of drunk’s and backwoods rednecks that have nothing better to do than cut trees and molest the local wildlife by shooting at them. Is it a wonder why the State is so low on any business development’s listing as a good pace to do business ?  When both Mass. and Conn. do better than Maine, and have far worse and business adverse tax’s, then it is time to wake up and decide what’s more important, Maine developing or hanging onto the past. LePage, to his credit, has seen the light. But when is Charlie and the rest of his clan gonna throw the switch ?

  • Jazz11

    Unregestered?  Never thought of it.  Does that make me a criminal 
    ?  Charlie Webster thinks so.  

  • AionNV

    Yeah, right.

  • AionNV

    I think what you are looking for is this : http://www.brennancenter.org/content/pages/svg_faq/

  • Anonymous

    You still here?

  • Anonymous

    Well heck, let’s just revert to 1791 when only landowners could vote, right? How about a $1,000 Poll Tax Republicans? How about it costs $300 to register to vote?? These regressive, repressive, repulsive Tea Party Terrorists will do anything to stem the vote, anything at all.

  • Anonymous

    I would never say that, they have paid their share.
    Nobody has the answer to this, but the liberals love having a stacked deck with all the people on the system sure to vote Democrat, and the Republicans of course do not think it’s fair.
    Fair? That would be every man, woman, and child owing exactly the same figure. Take the tax figure that this country needs to run on and divide it by the number of people, that would be fair and equal. Parents would be responsible for their children’s tax until they are 18. Then the people using all the services, schools etc, would be paying for them. Why should someone with 4 children pay less taxes than someone with none? How backwards is that? Maybe people would think before they have children that they can’t afford in the first place, then have a couple more for good measure.

  • Anonymous

    I would never say that, they have paid their share.
    Nobody has the answer to this, but the liberals love having a stacked deck with all the people on the system sure to vote Democrat, and the Republicans of course do not think it’s fair.
    Fair? That would be every man, woman, and child owing exactly the same figure. Take the tax figure that this country needs to run on and divide it by the number of people, that would be fair and equal. Parents would be responsible for their children’s tax until they are 18. Then the people using all the services, schools etc, would be paying for them. Why should someone with 4 children pay less taxes than someone with none? How backwards is that? Maybe people would think before they have children that they can’t afford in the first place, then have a couple more for good measure.

  • Anonymous

    UknowBest, you apparently don’t know that Maine is one state where inmates can vote. Very few bother to, but they still have the right to vote.

  • Anonymous

    UknowBest, you apparently don’t know that Maine is one state where inmates can vote. Very few bother to, but they still have the right to vote.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Webster says he finds it bizarre than anyone would think that he would bring up something that wasn’t a problem. What a joke. Almost everything Charlie Webster does is bizarre.

  • Anonymous

    There are no circumstances beyond your control in your example. the circumstances are a result of your actions.In your example you would be a hinderance on society and contributing nothing your vote included!!!

  • Anonymous

    thats because only 40% of maines population  are real mainers the other60% are transplanted flats

  • Anonymous

    If you leave where you are to come here dont try and change things  leave it all behind!!!   By the way I do love to harvest wildlife to put food on my table apparently you feel slaughterhouse type killing is somehow more humane  and I do cut my own firewod also apparently you would rather burn oil????  just guessin

  • Anonymous

    It is so funny how some describe us as so extreme, I didnt go as far as to say all flats are rich and rude, some are very pleasant. But if you come here to escape what you are leaving behing, leave it all behind dont drag what you like with you and want everything to change. By the way, I sure do love shootin  and harvesting wildlife. It looks as good on my plate as it does in your photo album and also much better for you, I dont think Charlie needs to throw the switch but make sure you do on your way through Kittery better go quick gonna be snowing here soon and you could get run over by a drunk redneck hunter on a snowmobile, Dont forget to write!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I say if they can enlist in the military, they can vote.  Or maybe we change the enlistment requirements so that only those that pay taxes can serve?  Yeah, right, I didn’t think so. 

  • Anonymous

    The issue isn’t one of age, but of connection to the community where these kids vote.

    I went to school at UM and spent 99% of my time on campus, thinking about on campus issues that were important to me at the time, such as studying, sports, and my social life. Once in a great while I would eat dinner at Pats or Margaritas. Beyond that I had NO connection to the town of Orono and NO knowledge of local issues that might be important to local residents when it was time to head for the polls.

    The same applies to most college students today. They live in their own little world on campus and that’s fine. But they shouldn’t be in the position to influence local elections when they have no intention of abiding by the issues that are determined by their vote, particularly spending issues. For example, if there was a proposal to build an expensive new swimming pool and sports complex in a small town, most local voters who were actual tax paying residents would understand that the townspeople couldn’t afford to pay for such a thing, and that the local high school already had such a facility so it would actually be used by a relatively small minority if it were built, so they would vote against it. A college student going to school in that town would understand that it wasn’t going to cost him/her a cent and it might be nice to go for a swim so would vote yes, leaving the actual residents in the community to pay for a white elephant that almost nobody actually living in the town wanted.

    College students should be allowed to vote in national elections, but not to influence local elections since they have no real vested interested in the outcome like almost every other voter does.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JFBKOI7EXRX7MUJFO4JAI3LTQ4 James

    Apparently Mr. Webster is not going to let the Constitution get in the way of his little Crusade.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=537505709 Matt Levesque

    Personally they should be allowed to vote, if there going to college in your state. The “students” are dumping 15-150 thousand dollars in to the college, and then renting an apartment, buying stuff local and it helps the immediate impact. I say let them vote, it cant get any worse in Maine, or Washington.

  • Anonymous

    After reading all I could stand of these comments ( approx. 75 ) I have reached the conclusion that the left wing extreme believes this will disenfranchise only the left, I find this remarkable that the left believes the right are that much smarter when it comes to registering to vote or changing their residency when moving from one area (state) to another. most every other comment concerning the right coming from the left says exactly the opposite.
     I believe it should be the responsibility of the voter to see to it that he/she has taken the steps to be enrolled in the proper state and un-enrolled from the state they came from BEFORE election day and find it hard to believe anyone would rather leave this opportunity for voter fraud unaddressed rather than corrected with the new rule at hand, but then again I also believe each citizen of America and deserves one vote at a time…..jmho     

  • Anonymous

    After reading all I could stand of these comments ( approx. 75 ) I have reached the conclusion that the left wing extreme believes this will disenfranchise only the left, I find this remarkable that the left believes the right are that much smarter when it comes to registering to vote or changing their residency when moving from one area (state) to another. most every other comment concerning the right coming from the left says exactly the opposite.
     I believe it should be the responsibility of the voter to see to it that he/she has taken the steps to be enrolled in the proper state and un-enrolled from the state they came from BEFORE election day and find it hard to believe anyone would rather leave this opportunity for voter fraud unaddressed rather than corrected with the new rule at hand, but then again I also believe each citizen of America and deserves one vote at a time…..jmho     

  • http://www.facebook.com/Arthur.Langley Arthur Langley

    I don’t think there is a big voter fraud issue. Until I see PROOF there is an election affecting problem . . . I think Charlie Webster has picked a stupid battle and is battling it stupidly. 
    BUT . . . 
    How about . . . those that DON’T pay taxes HAVE TO SERVE ?How about . . . if you want to vote in a state and community while in school, you must PICK ONE and legally commit to live, work, and do community service “in the community where you voted” for four continuous years immediately after graduating. That’s what cadets at our nation’s military academies do every year for our military community. Otherwise use Absentee Ballots as they were intended.If one  wants to vote for lawmakers who make laws (including budgets) that affect the near and distant future of a community and a state . . . LIVE in, WORK in, and CONTRIBUTE to that future.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    I am from Maine, but I went to college in another state. While I was there, I obtained an Absentee Ballot from my hometown for each election, because that is how the system is intended to work. I was legally still a resident in Maine until I registered elsewhere. That continued when I moved overseas after graduation. I was still a legal resident of Maine, so I continued to vote as such. 

    Civics 101, folks. Not knowing (a.k.a., being ignorant of) the law does not make you less culpable in breaking it. Rules (and laws) are there to be followed. Students that want to vote in Maine need to register as legal residents to do so, or else take the five minutes needed to obtain an absentee ballot from home and vote that way.

  • Anonymous

    ha ha ha.  that is funny.  It is well known that the liberal demographic is more educated and wealthier than conservative.  That is why urban areas are usually more liberal — the average income and education level are higher (Southern Maine vs Northern Maine).  Look at an election result map of Maine.  You will certainly see the poorer, more rural, and less educated a community is, the more likely it voted republican.

  • Anonymous

    College students buy stuff here, and in doing so pay taxes here.  Where they vote is up to them, so long as they do it only once in each election.  Until whack-job Webster can actually show that enough people voted in more than one place he needs to stop making up paranoid crap about illegals voting here.  Put down the pipe and come back to reality. 

  • Anonymous

    This dumb politicien now will have every student at every college in his area voting against him. Why is it Republicans want less voters especially the young voters?

  • Anonymous

    By the way Chuch they are paying taxes here when they buy items at stores and gas. I tell you what is a bigger problem. Old rich people who register their cars in Florida so they don’t pay taxes and then vote here. Focus on that because I see a lot of cars with Florida plates on them here in Maine and these people are avoiding Maine property tax yet vote here. Of course he won’t look at that issue because they are Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Coming from the same party that says God produced the earthquake and Irene to prove a point to D.C.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Nice copy/paste.

    Sales tax, payroll tax, property tax, excise tax, for starters. They’re still paying, just not on income. Their rent goes toward property taxes that their landlord pays.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    You misspelled Bush again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=561518799 Steve Ripley

    Funny, I (native Mainer), am a registered Republican in the State of Maine, but think it’s “bizarre” that Charlie Webster would think, “…What I find bizarre is that anyone would think I would
    bring up something that wasn’t a problem.” Does Mr. Webster think that he is exempt from bringing “up something that wasn’t a problem” ~ and does he think that he would only “stir up the mud” for purely apolitical reasons for the State of Maine?  I think he must be naive if he thinks that we are that naive.  C’mon Charlie!

  • Anonymous

    Many elderly people in nursing homes have a limited income and do not pay taxes. If we use the logic that college students shouldn’t vote because they don’t earn money than we must apply that same stipulation to elderly people who don’t work and don’t make enough to pay taxes. And what about people who have been disabled their entire lives and have not been able to work? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAJZRSHZOYGTLTZOUREIQ7PRFY Mmmm

    Eric Russell

    Excellent work!  Too bad the other “journalists” in ME did not have the guts and determination to reveal Charlie Webster and Charlie Summers for the frauds they are.

    This effort by the two Charlies is clearly a Koch funded drive at voter suppression.

    Keep up the good work

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAJZRSHZOYGTLTZOUREIQ7PRFY Mmmm

    Eric Russell

    Excellent work!  Too bad the other “journalists” in ME did not have the guts and determination to reveal Charlie Webster and Charlie Summers for the frauds they are.

    This effort by the two Charlies is clearly a Koch funded drive at voter suppression.

    Keep up the good work

  • Anonymous

    The major problems of election theft have been found to be republican in origin. Read bradblog for the latest. States all across the US have been passing laws making in harder for the poor and minorities to vote. Maine is now included in this sorry list. No same day registration. We live in a bannana republic. Exit polls are a good way to verify honest voting all over the world , but not here.

  • Anonymous

    The major problems of election theft have been found to be republican in origin. Read bradblog for the latest. States all across the US have been passing laws making in harder for the poor and minorities to vote. Maine is now included in this sorry list. No same day registration. We live in a bannana republic. Exit polls are a good way to verify honest voting all over the world , but not here.

  • Anonymous

    The major problems of election theft have been found to be republican in origin. Read bradblog for the latest. States all across the US have been passing laws making in harder for the poor and minorities to vote. Maine is now included in this sorry list. No same day registration. We live in a bannana republic. Exit polls are a good way to verify honest voting all over the world , but not here.

  • Anonymous

    Many elderly people in nursing homes have a limited income and do not pay taxes. If we use the logic that college students shouldn’t vote because they don’t earn money than we must apply that same stipulation to elderly people who don’t work and don’t make enough to pay taxes. And what about people who have been disabled their entire lives and have not been able to work? 

    I am not a liberal or a Democrat. I am a very conservative Independent. I believe there are many flaws in the tax code. I’m in agreement with you there but you cannot deny someone the right to vote because they are in college, disabled or elderly and not working or making enough to pay income taxes. 

    A large amount of the money for schools comes directly from property taxes and not from income tax. 

  • Anonymous

    Many elderly people in nursing homes have a limited income and do not pay taxes. If we use the logic that college students shouldn’t vote because they don’t earn money than we must apply that same stipulation to elderly people who don’t work and don’t make enough to pay taxes. And what about people who have been disabled their entire lives and have not been able to work? 

    I am not a liberal or a Democrat. I am a very conservative Independent. I believe there are many flaws in the tax code. I’m in agreement with you there but you cannot deny someone the right to vote because they are in college, disabled or elderly and not working or making enough to pay income taxes. 

    A large amount of the money for schools comes directly from property taxes and not from income tax. 

  • http://kibblesbits.wordpress.com/ Ann

    Students spend more time in their college towns than they do in their ‘home town’. Some may never return to where they went to high school.

  • Anonymous

    Have we all gone nuts?FlagNo, just the oligarchs who really run the country and are losing control. They have to show what they really are about now. Would not want to be one of soldiers in the front lines, like our governor.

  • Anonymous

    The only people who have been found guilty of voting in a place other than where they live , are republicans. Ann Coulter for one. Of course, she wasn’t prosecuted. That is just for democrats.

  • Anonymous

    Wonder what excuse the republicans gave for eliminating it?

  • Anonymous

    ME has been a progressive state. It isn’t anymore. 

  • Anonymous

    Did you know that Gore won in 2000? The Supreme Court selected him. Election theft got bush in office twice , plus a crooked judicial system. Two illegal wars, a depleted treasury and 9/11 seem like a long time ago. The US had the respect of the world prior to the bush 2000 call. Now , we are broke and despised.

  • Anonymous

    Or a conservative backlash against war on five fronts that gbush et al started. Wars for oil are ok, voting…not so much.

  • Anonymous

    Childish statement.

  • Anonymous

    They’re just attending school here. Unless they pay In-State tuition rates they should vote in their home state.
    That is a ridiculous statement. 

  • Anonymous

    The most people caught in voter fraud have been republicans. Go figure. The people who have been responsible for election theft which is widespread and systemic  are republicans. 

    In the last recall election in Wis. , exit polls were not allowed in one huge district. Bannana republic?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1643335372 Bethany Reynolds

    Thanks for the good laugh this morning. To this mother of a college student, the notion of roving bands of youth choosing their colleges each year based on which hot-button issue they could influence with their “illegitimate” votes is preposterous.
    Many college students DO care about the issues, and take the time to inform themselves and vote. Personally, I hope these civic-minded young people choose to stay in Maine after graduation- we certainly need them. Note to any college students reading this: Charlie Webster and his enablers don’t speak for all or even most Mainers….really, we aren’t all a bunch of selfish, paranoid old grumps!

  • Anonymous

    “Open for business” 

    Drive the out of state students out. LOL 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris and Republican Kenneth Blackwell both abuse the power of their offices that allowed others to steal the elections in 2000 and 2004 respectively.  And now Republicans are now again trying to steal elections by making it more difficult for those who may vote for Democrats.     Unfortunately, that has nothing to do with voter fraud in the sense of this article.

  • Anonymous

    Corporations have the second lowest income tax rate in the world in the US. First is Iceland. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it would be much more convenient if only the “right” people were allowed to vote.  We wouldn’t have all these silly laws like civil rights and suffrage  And we definitely wouldn’t be discussing things like unions and Social Security. 

  • Anonymous

    So you would make them go back “home” to vote?  Effectively disenfranchising anyone who lives within easy distance of “home”.   Ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    Students DO have a stake in how their local governments are run…the ones who vote care about this.  That’s why they vote!

  • http://www.facebook.com/will.bradbury1 Will Bradbury

    Students pay 8-9 months worth of sales tax in Maine. If they get a job they pay State income tax. This is such a stupid crusade for the Republicans and makes them look like they are trying to be as un-American as possible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/will.bradbury1 Will Bradbury

    Students pay 8-9 months worth of sales tax in Maine. If they get a job they pay State income tax. This is such a stupid crusade for the Republicans and makes them look like they are trying to be as un-American as possible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/will.bradbury1 Will Bradbury

    Students pay 8-9 months worth of sales tax in Maine. If they get a job they pay State income tax. This is such a stupid crusade for the Republicans and makes them look like they are trying to be as un-American as possible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/will.bradbury1 Will Bradbury

    Students pay 8-9 months worth of sales tax in Maine. If they get a job they pay State income tax. This is such a stupid crusade for the Republicans and makes them look like they are trying to be as un-American as possible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/will.bradbury1 Will Bradbury

    Students pay 8-9 months worth of sales tax in Maine. If they get a job they pay State income tax. This is such a stupid crusade for the Republicans and makes them look like they are trying to be as un-American as possible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/will.bradbury1 Will Bradbury

    Students pay 8-9 months worth of sales tax in Maine. If they get a job they pay State income tax. This is such a stupid crusade for the Republicans and makes them look like they are trying to be as un-American as possible.

  • Anonymous

    Paul Wayrich , right winger at the southern baptist convention. From bradblog.

    “I don’t want everybody to vote…As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”

    This is what our right wing governor and his right wing followers are going for.

  • Anonymous

    Paul Wayrich , right winger at the southern baptist convention. From bradblog.

    “I don’t want everybody to vote…As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”

    This is what our right wing governor and his right wing followers are going for.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster is so ignorant that it is painful.  All Maine Republicans should be embarrassed to have him as their party leader.  Unfortunately, the national Republicans have made it okay to have such ignorance out there.  Us Mainers should just ignore him.  Hopefully, if we ignore him, he will go away.  It worked with Palin.

  • Anonymous

    You  mentioned that you registered in Mass then moved to Maine and registered there.  Did you vote in both places on the same day?  If no, then you did not commit voter fraud.   I have a licence to carry.  I COULD easily walk into a liquor store and rob it.  But since I don’t commit crimes should I be charged for robbery.  That is exactly what these voter ID does.  We already have laws on the books for voter fraud.  We do not have to create laws that are only there to discourage people to vote when they have every legal right to vote.  
    Also, Republicans claim voter fraud everytime they lose an election even though there is never any evidence to support their claims.

  • Anonymous

    Go Charlie McCarthy, I mean Webster.   The only fraud being perpetrated is Mr. Webster doing things the Neo-con way.   Saying there is a problem, passing a law to deter problem, then creating the problem with factually flawed data.    Isn’t that why we are in Iraq?

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, Charlie, but even Democrats have the right to vote.  I realize that this fact causes you pain, but it is true.  Live with it.

  • Anonymous

    You have GOT to be kidding, right? Requiring military service for people who don’t pay taxes will only result in poor kids being conscripted to fight the rich peoples’ wars.  That is what happens now, but at least the enlistees have a choice.  Also, your other proposal is basically a recipe for indentured servitude in return for the (constitutionally guaranteed) right to vote.  Are you saying that cadets must spend 4 years after college working for the community where they lived and voted while in school? I find that impossible to believe. If on the other hand you are talking about their required length of military active duty service, I believe that is standard for enlistees that are not college graduates as well.

  • Anonymous

    You have GOT to be kidding, right? Requiring military service for people who don’t pay taxes will only result in poor kids being conscripted to fight the rich peoples’ wars.  That is what happens now, but at least the enlistees have a choice.  Also, your other proposal is basically a recipe for indentured servitude in return for the (constitutionally guaranteed) right to vote.  Are you saying that cadets must spend 4 years after college working for the community where they lived and voted while in school? I find that impossible to believe. If on the other hand you are talking about their required length of military active duty service, I believe that is standard for enlistees that are not college graduates as well.

  • katherinecollins2000

    Jill,
    As a “summer person” for the last 12 years, I have been a Maine resident and voter for the past 5 years. My husband has been a registered Maine voter for 20 years, even though he hasn’t lived full time in the state for 15 years. Why? Because he was serving his country in the US Navy. Your information is incorrect. If you own property in Maine and want to be considered a resident then it is your choice, no matter how many days you are actually in the state.

    I don’t think college students should vote in their college town, they should vote in their hometown if they live in a dorm. They are too busy studying and partying to pay attention to the local candidates and local issues ina  responsible way. Plus, many are persuaded by their liberal professors to vote in a “certain” way.    

  • Anonymous

    Good to see the truth out! Don’t you know the oligarchs hate the internet with a passion? I am old enough to remember the nightly news . …and everybody thinking the anchors  were doing honest reporting. And now TV news viewership is way down as well as newspaper subscriptions…HMMM

  • Anonymous

    And they should be white…and wealthy landowners…and a member of a recognized Protestant denomination…and male…and have a freshly pressed set of Klan robes with them at ALL times!!!!! Jawohl Herr Vebster!!! 

  • Anonymous

    the only “real” mainers are the passamaquoddys, micmacs, penobscots, and algonquins, so give your real mainer horse a rest. you forget maine was really massachusetts for many years.  we who are not native american are ALL flatlanders.

  • Anonymous

    Follow the votes. Sort of like follow the money, only different.

    Webster, chairman of, and in this case, the speaker for the Maine Republican Party, would allow rocks to vote if surveys showed that rocks voted mostly Republican. Actually, I’m quite sure, due to the density of rocks, that they would vote Republican.

  • Anonymous

    MaryBelle, you disgrace our soldiers to equate Gov. LePage with them, comparing their lives on the line with this over-stuffed man.

  • Anonymous

    “I need to register my car and pay taxes in that community.”

    You don’t need a car in order to vote and we all pay taxes in our communities. I’m getting really sick of this Republican meme where somehow they’re the only ones who are paying taxes. Like there are bums in the stores that are buying things and somehow getting around the sales tax. Or these nasty college students somehow are avoiding the gas tax. It’s really ridiculous and frankly stupid. Does the GOP really think this is the way to go about encouraging voters and having young people engage in the politcal process?

  • Anonymous

    In case you haven’t heard, the draft is over; all the people going to Iraq, Libya, Egypt, etc. are there as willing volunteers….many re-enlist over and over. 

    You are also ignorant of community service requirements for high school graduation.

    Perhaps you don’t even live in Maine or are you home-schooled? 

  • Anonymous

    But only if they meet the residency requirements set out in municipal statutes and other criteria; including vehicle registration, Maine Driver’s license, etc. 

  • Anonymous

    No it doesn’t, the S.C.  didn’t like a restrictive question-air applied to students at a local Black college; and the argument against it was it denied them their civil rights …this was the 70′s.  Chief Justice Rhenquest’s minority opinion is worth reading. 

    Maine law does not preclude voting but requires proof of residency and intent to be a citizen of Maine; the comments on this topic clearly indicate how easy it is to vote in more than one place since there is no national registry of voters. 

    A one week waiting period and holding ballots of  newly registered voters should be mandated to prevent fraudulent voting. 

  • Anonymous

    The statutes in my town clearly spell out the criteria to be a voting resident and that includes a definition of a ‘domicile’. Students may or may not meet these criteria, therefore the necessity of making meeting these criteria a precondition of voting. 

    You got a car registered in Maine and a Maine Driver’s license, and reside off-campus and are a U.S. citizen then you can vote….simple and can be done a week before the election. 

  • Anonymous

    How many times did you hit the like button on your own post…maybe 6?

  • OldWench

    Out of state students pay MORE than in state students.  If they get part time jobs, like a large amount of students do they have to pay Maine income tax.  They pay Maine sales tax.  They pay Maine taxes on services.  They pay Maine taxes on gasoline and if they smoke, they pay Maine cigarette tax.  They reside in Maine OVER 6 months of the year.  That makes them a resident.  They have to live under the laws and leadership of Maine.  If they have to do all of those things then they have every right to vote in Maine.  Don’t like the fact that the majority of Maine residents don’t agree with you politically then you are clearly living in the wrong state.  

  • OldWench

    Out of state students pay MORE than in state students.  If they get part time jobs, like a large amount of students do they have to pay Maine income tax.  They pay Maine sales tax.  They pay Maine taxes on services.  They pay Maine taxes on gasoline and if they smoke, they pay Maine cigarette tax.  They reside in Maine OVER 6 months of the year.  That makes them a resident.  They have to live under the laws and leadership of Maine.  If they have to do all of those things then they have every right to vote in Maine.  Don’t like the fact that the majority of Maine residents don’t agree with you politically then you are clearly living in the wrong state.  

  • Anonymous

    You know nothing.

    There was a revolt of the clerks in my home town; and it caused then Rep. Tom Allen to invade the polling place with not one, but two expensive lawyers to intimidate them into letting students register on the spot. 

    I still have the clipping from a local college newspaper. 

  • Anonymous

    I realize Charlie Webster is a plumber, but he can at least understand the various laws governing student voting.

    This is from the Brennan Center of NYU:


    Residency and DomicileEvery state in the union requires voters to have some sort of connection to a particular locale before they can vote there-to be a “resident,” or an “inhabitant,” or to regularly live or sleep at an address in the district. Your residency in a particular state is legally meaningful in a number of different ways-it affects where you can be sued in court, where you have to pay taxes, where you can get married or divorced, where you have to register your car, and so on. Although residence is determined in similar ways for many of these purposes, different states apply different rules for different kinds of residency, so you can end up being a resident for one purpose but not for another. This guide describes the rules governing residency for voting purposes, both for students who want to vote where they attend college and for students who want to vote where they lived before school.Some states base their voting residency laws on “domicile.” Domicile is usually defined as more than residence. In order to establish domicile, you must intend to make a place your home, and not just physically live there. Even when the word “domicile” isn’t used in defining where you can vote, the concept of legal residence for voting may rely a lot on ideas about domicile. There are two things that can be tricky for students about establishing domicile at a school address. First, there’s usually a presumption against changing your domicile, meaning that you usually keep your old domicile until you gain a new one, even if you’ve moved out of your old domicile. Under these guidelines, most students’ default domicile is their parents’ house. Second, in order to establish a new domicile you often need to assert an intention to remain somewhere permanently or indefinitely, in other words, to make it your permanent home.There’s a presumption in the law that your old domicile continues until you establish a new one. Basically, once you have a formal, fixed home where you can be said to live, that home is assumed to be your domicile until you set up a new one. This makes a certain amount of sense as a legal matter-if you could lose your domicile before you got a new one, it could be hard for people without a fixed residence to do essential government business. And it provides protection for students who want to keep their legal residence at their parents’ house, where it’s usually easy to maintain your residence under state law. But it also means that the place where you used to live -your parents’ home, usually-is your domicile until you can prove that you changed it. Changing your domicile usually requires action-moving some place-and intent-intending for the new place to become your home.”

  • Anonymous

    I realize Webster is a plumber, but that shouldn’t stop him from understanding the complexities of student voter registration.


    Residency and DomicileEvery state in the union requires voters to have some sort of connection to a particular locale before they can vote there-to be a “resident,” or an “inhabitant,” or to regularly live or sleep at an address in the district. Your residency in a particular state is legally meaningful in a number of different ways-it affects where you can be sued in court, where you have to pay taxes, where you can get married or divorced, where you have to register your car, and so on. Although residence is determined in similar ways for many of these purposes, different states apply different rules for different kinds of residency, so you can end up being a resident for one purpose but not for another. This guide describes the rules governing residency for voting purposes, both for students who want to vote where they attend college and for students who want to vote where they lived before school.Some states base their voting residency laws on “domicile.” Domicile is usually defined as more than residence. In order to establish domicile, you must intend to make a place your home, and not just physically live there. Even when the word “domicile” isn’t used in defining where you can vote, the concept of legal residence for voting may rely a lot on ideas about domicile. There are two things that can be tricky for students about establishing domicile at a school address. First, there’s usually a presumption against changing your domicile, meaning that you usually keep your old domicile until you gain a new one, even if you’ve moved out of your old domicile. Under these guidelines, most students’ default domicile is their parents’ house. Second, in order to establish a new domicile you often need to assert an intention to remain somewhere permanently or indefinitely, in other words, to make it your permanent home.There’s a presumption in the law that your old domicile continues until you establish a new one. Basically, once you have a formal, fixed home where you can be said to live, that home is assumed to be your domicile until you set up a new one. This makes a certain amount of sense as a legal matter-if you could lose your domicile before you got a new one, it could be hard for people without a fixed residence to do essential government business. And it provides protection for students who want to keep their legal residence at their parents’ house, where it’s usually easy to maintain your residence under state law. But it also means that the place where you used to live -your parents’ home, usually-is your domicile until you can prove that you changed it. Changing your domicile usually requires action-moving some place-and intent-intending for the new place to become your home.”

  • Anonymous

    If this weren’t the BDN, “reporters” like Russell wouldn’t be collecting a paycheck.  When you begin a “news story” with the line “Charlie Webster sounds a lot like LeRoy Symm,” you give yourself away as writing an opinionated editorial, as aways, from a far left perspective.  If you are smart, don’t read further then the first line, it doesn’t get better. 

  • Anonymous

    If this weren’t the BDN, “reporters” like Russell wouldn’t be collecting a paycheck.  When you begin a “news story” with the line “Charlie Webster sounds a lot like LeRoy Symm,” you give yourself away as writing an opinionated editorial, as aways, from a far left perspective.  If you are smart, don’t read further then the first line, it doesn’t get better. 

  • OldWench

    College students actually pay better attention to politics than the average non-college student.  Much of the time it is required to stay up on current events for classes, and those issues are almost always discussed in college classes.  I’m an older college student and these issues ALWAYS come up and are discussed and debated.  In fact, I’m far more informed about politics and political issues now than I was before attending college.  The real issue is that the vast majority of people who are educated realize that we, as a nation, don’t amount to crap if we don’t do the right thing regarding social justice.  Caring about our own is what separates us from third world countries and makes this a great nation.  Educated people also realize that when huge multi-billion dollar corporations are protected over the most vulnerable populations it hurts the economy and weakens the US.  This causes people to be less educated, have less and struggle more.  America is only as successful as are the majority of it’s citizens and the level of success of average citizens gets lower and lower the more conservative the politics in the country become.  

  • ladybaroque

    What a nutjob this guy is!!

  • OldWench

    Out of state students have to pay more than in state students.  The constitution and the law guarantees students the right to vote where they attend college.  That is the law and is not debatable.   Don’t like it…too bad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=674760612 Kevin McCarthy

    Never mind that the majority of students tend to NOT vote republican (I have no sources for this, just going with my gut really… )

    Are older people going to have to complete competency tests to ensure that they know what they are voting for?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    What he is afraid of is that people will pay attention to the real issues, The Republican removal of same election day registration, and the redistricting sham to rig more elections. Charlie is being successful at keeping boogieman Democratic news in the press because the press is actually paying attention to Charlies unfounded lie of voter fraud being perpetrated by Democrats. He is hoping for the long wind leading to assumption. The man has stooped to the sewer of poweritis.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-White/1508030373 Christopher White

    What a totally bizarre situation. Either we are a democratic republic in which WE as citizens hold elections to determine who WE want to represent us or we are an oligarchy in which those who already hold power determine who will represent THEIR interests by making all the decisions about “elections” in back rooms. Webster is obviously on the side of the oligarchs. Despite Maine & US Supreme Court decisions, despite the experience of the Jim Crow laws era in the south, despite the lack of any actual cases of proven voting fraud, Webster and his supporters here seem to prefer weird conspiracy theories, age discrimination, and leaps of logic to facts or the law.

    Boil it all down and it seems the underlying logic is this: the GOP managed to get a TEApublican elected to the governorship. Realizing that they did so with a scant plurality in a five way race in which the Democrats had a weak candidate and there was a liberal independent who drew votes from that candidate, the monied interests behind the GOP are now trying every trick in the book to assure that they can hold onto offices they would NOT have won in a straight two party vote. So they eliminate EDR and are now grasping at straws like demonizing college student voters in the hope that they can reduce turnout sufficiently to retain power in the next election. In so doing they reveal themselves as being un-American and the antithesis of the patriots they claim to be. America is about free elections in which as many citizens as possible vote, not about limiting votes to those that can safely be counted on to support the powerful and elite who are already in charge.

  • Anonymous

    Not on topic, but watch as the fallout from the arab spring uprising results in these oligarchs trying to suppress internet activity here when it suits them to. 

  • Anonymous

    There are all kinds of soldiers. Our gov. is working for the corporations on the front lines. Our soldiers overseas working for the oil companies have such an enormous suicide rate that the numbers are being fudged. Disgrace only comes from one’s own mind. Our troops should have never been put in the position that they are in. Joining up for loyalty and then being asked to kill innocent women and children. Over a million Iraqis dead, who had nothing to do with 9/11. Guess it just depends on one’s point of view as to where the disgrace really belongs.

  • notateapartier

    People who pay more taxes should get more say in how their state is run.  Those in the 35% brackett should get 3 votes. Those in the 15% brackett should get 1 vote, and those who don’t pay taxes should not get a vote.

    Just kidding. This is me pretending to be a right-winger.

  • notateapartier

    Darn those out of state students and their out of state tuition! Oh- nevermind.

  • notateapartier

    Some people resent college students and all their fancy book learnin’.

  • notateapartier

    This is really going to upset you. College students can vote here even if they come from out of state. Prisoners can vote. Homeless, jobless people can vote. Those “mooching off of the welfare system” can vote.
    No taxes, drivers license, car registration required.

  • notateapartier

    Have you seen the rate of out of state tuition lately? These high rates help support our schools. These students are not likely to be “mooching off the welfare system”.

  • Anonymous

    paying tax in a town in order to vote is what is called a “poll tax” and was ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL by the Supreme Court of the US. But then, Charlie’s never been a fan of history or the law, or even government, where he served for several years. Sheesh.

  • notateapartier

    Not all students are as self-centered as you would think.

  • Anonymous

    Silly Charlie: to get what you want,  first you ought to work on two amendments to the U.S. Constitution: first you’ve got to eliminate Amendment XXIV which prohibits payment of poll or other taxes as precondition for voting in any primary or regular election where federal offices are at stake -usually the very elections in which college-age voters are likely to participate.
    Second, just to make sure, you ought to eliminate Amendment XXVI and add one barring the vote by anyone under twenty-five years of age, the minimum age for holding federal office. There, by gorry, that ought to put ‘em in their place.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently reading comprehension isn’t among your (I’m sure various) skills. I did say that currently enlistees make the choice to join the military.  Any high school community service requirements are not associated with the right to vote and are not required after graduation.  Additionally, any high schooler is more than likely living with their parents in the community so I’m not really sure what that adds to your argument (such as it is).

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster is costing you and I money with this baseless witchhunt.  Shouldn’t he be expected to pay the state back for the time they have to spend to investigate this fraudulent fraud allegation?  He told us these were the “most obvious” examples of voter fraud.  I can imagine how much we will waste on the less obvious examples.  The only fraud so far is you Mr Webster.     Now leave us to vote as we see fit.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You do not know what you are talking about, wench. Only legal residents can vote in a particular jurisdiction. If an out of state student intends to vote in his or her legal place of residence, they can do so by absentee ballot.

  • Anonymous

    I thought we live in a free country. Beyond the rule that requires residency and citizenship, if I live at the college in your home town I can vote there. Welcome my participation. I am not livestock;.

  • Anonymous

    US Corporate taxes are 35%, the second highest in the world

  • Anonymous

    I just drown that poster’s comments out now.

  • Anonymous

    I just drown that poster’s comments out now.

  • Anonymous

    I just drown that poster’s comments out now.

  • Anonymous

    I just drown that poster’s comments out now.

  • Anonymous

    I just drown that poster’s comments out now.

  • Anonymous

    Webster and his ilk are making Maine an  absolute laughingstock.

  • Anonymous

    Webster and his ilk are making Maine an  absolute laughingstock.

  • Anonymous

    Webster and his ilk are making Maine an  absolute laughingstock.

  • Anonymous

    Webster and his ilk are making Maine an  absolute laughingstock.

  • Anonymous

    Webster and his ilk are making Maine an  absolute laughingstock.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the problem Knoblock, let me make this one very simple for you.  Unless you plan to live in Maine permanently, become a resident, hold a job, pay taxes in this state, get married in this state, you have NO business deciding whether or not gays in the state of Maine should be allowed to marry.  Figures you are from MA

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    If a member of our military wishes to participate in local elections should he/she be required to claim permanent residency in that community and state? 

  • Anonymous

    I actually heard some national goper/teapartier say that you should have to own land before being allowed to vote!  And probably have to be free and clear of the bank, too.  Gee, that would allow about 1.5% of us to run the country…..oh, wait……

  • Anonymous

    I actually heard some national goper/teapartier say that you should have to own land before being allowed to vote!  And probably have to be free and clear of the bank, too.  Gee, that would allow about 1.5% of us to run the country…..oh, wait……

  • Anonymous

    I actually heard some national goper/teapartier say that you should have to own land before being allowed to vote!  And probably have to be free and clear of the bank, too.  Gee, that would allow about 1.5% of us to run the country…..oh, wait……

  • Anonymous

    I actually heard some national goper/teapartier say that you should have to own land before being allowed to vote!  And probably have to be free and clear of the bank, too.  Gee, that would allow about 1.5% of us to run the country…..oh, wait……

  • Anonymous

    I actually heard some national goper/teapartier say that you should have to own land before being allowed to vote!  And probably have to be free and clear of the bank, too.  Gee, that would allow about 1.5% of us to run the country…..oh, wait……

  • Anonymous

    I actually heard some national goper/teapartier say that you should have to own land before being allowed to vote!  And probably have to be free and clear of the bank, too.  Gee, that would allow about 1.5% of us to run the country…..oh, wait……

  • Anonymous

    I actually heard some national goper/teapartier say that you should have to own land before being allowed to vote!  And probably have to be free and clear of the bank, too.  Gee, that would allow about 1.5% of us to run the country…..oh, wait……

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    All of the taxes you mention are local and have nothing to do with the deficit; so how does the reduction of the deficit fall on the shoulders of the poor.
    Mindless class warfare is part of the problem and not the solution.

  • Anonymous

    What law prevents me from voting in Maine if I sent an absentee ballot back to my home state?

  • Anonymous

    What law prevents me from voting in Maine if I sent an absentee ballot back to my home state?

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • Anonymous

    Mr Webster…….these students pay MORE than the rich!!! They pay the government back with their school loans for the rest of their lives!!!! I would say that is their tax. Why don’t you try living with a 100,000 school loan and make a living. Perhaps your issue is that more of these educated folks are voting democratic these days????

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • newportres

    The snowbirds have a take that the out of State college kids do not have.
    First in most cases they own property and pay the taxes for that property.
    Second, and again in most cases they are from here and still have family and roots here.

    If you are paying out of State tuition it is because you are not a Resident of this State.  You should not be voting here.

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You can’t buy a pack of cigarettes without a picture ID, birth certificate, affidavits, and witnesses that say you are at least 18 but you can vote without producing any ID whatsoever.  Makes sense to me, vote early and often, the democrat mantra.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You can’t buy a pack of cigarettes without a picture ID, birth certificate, affidavits, and witnesses that say you are at least 18 but you can vote without producing any ID whatsoever.  Makes sense to me, vote early and often, the democrat mantra.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You can’t buy a pack of cigarettes without a picture ID, birth certificate, affidavits, and witnesses that say you are at least 18 but you can vote without producing any ID whatsoever.  Makes sense to me, vote early and often, the democrat mantra.

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You can’t buy a pack of cigarettes without a picture ID, birth certificate, affidavits, and witnesses that say you are at least 18 but you can vote without producing any ID whatsoever.  Makes sense to me, vote early and often, the democrat mantra.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You can’t buy a pack of cigarettes without a picture ID, birth certificate, affidavits, and witnesses that say you are at least 18 but you can vote without producing any ID whatsoever.  Makes sense to me, vote early and often, the democrat mantra.

  • Anonymous

    is it that much of a problem to register BEFORE voting day?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You can’t buy a pack of cigarettes without a picture ID, birth certificate, affidavits, and witnesses that say you are at least 18 but you can vote without producing any ID whatsoever.  Makes sense to me, vote early and often, the democrat mantra.

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    Should a child who attends UMO and lives on campus but hails from Mass claim residency if mommy and daddy are claiming that child as a dependent on their state and federal taxes in order to take advantage of the tax write offs? 

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    ur choice to owe 100,000 on student loans, I worked full time, went to school full time and paid as much as I could without taking out that much in loans….maybe if they worked and did not rely on student loans as an income while in college….

  • Anonymous

    Should a child who attends UMO and lives on campus but hails from Mass claim residency if mommy and daddy are claiming that child as a dependent on their state and federal taxes in order to take advantage of the tax write offs? 

  • Anonymous

    Should a child who attends UMO and lives on campus but hails from Mass claim residency if mommy and daddy are claiming that child as a dependent on their state and federal taxes in order to take advantage of the tax write offs? 

  • Anonymous

    Should a child who attends UMO and lives on campus but hails from Mass claim residency if mommy and daddy are claiming that child as a dependent on their state and federal taxes in order to take advantage of the tax write offs? 

  • Anonymous

    Should a child who attends UMO and lives on campus but hails from Mass claim residency if mommy and daddy are claiming that child as a dependent on their state and federal taxes in order to take advantage of the tax write offs? 

  • Anonymous

    that is how it goes……but i guess college students do not have to do that

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • Anonymous

    that is how it goes……but i guess college students do not have to do that

  • Anonymous

    that is how it goes……but i guess college students do not have to do that

  • Anonymous

    that is how it goes……but i guess college students do not have to do that

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • newportres

    No I don’t believe that is how they choose their colleges but I do believe that if they are paying out of State tuition they should not be able to claim they are a resident of the State.  The college did not accept that they had a claim to residency and will also not accpet that claim in subsequent years if they do nothing else to establish that residency so why should the State accept it?
    As for being selfish there is nothing selfish about wanting the people who effect my life be people who represent my community.  Some kid here for a few months from Mass doesn’t count as a member of my community.
    Once he moves here he gets the same rights as the rest of you transplants, and can attempt to destroy this State in the same way he did with the one he ran away from, but not before.

  • Anonymous

    not everyone feels that way

  • Anonymous

    not everyone feels that way

  • Anonymous

    not everyone feels that way

  • Anonymous

    not everyone feels that way

  • Anonymous

    not everyone feels that way

  • http://twitter.com/brandonslattery Brandon Slattery

    Jill, I’ve been to Maine, and outside of Portland most of the troglodytes who’ve lived their whole lives there seem pretty clueless about politics, other than that they hate Somalian immigrants. The farther north you go, the more Confederate flags you see, so obviously you people need a geography lesson. So why do you assume that someone in college can’t be informed about issues in Maine? I mean, at least more informed than the racist toothless hicks that fill up your lousy state. Also, many students go away to school and never move back in with their parents. If you are going to spend the next four years in Maine, you are much more affected by policies there than wherever your parents live. Most people who go to college in another state can’t wait to get out of their parents’ house, or they would live at home and commute to school.

  • Anonymous

    that is the most idiotic thing I have seen written here……and believe me there are plenty

  • Anonymous

    How ared YOU overtaxed?  You pay what the man says and it is ok.  No one in Maine is overtaxed.  Most are underTAXED!!!!

  • Anonymous

    thank you

  • Anonymous

    just like we don’t have a welfare fraud problem…

  • Anonymous

    To all the posters here, who think they pay too much in taxes…….If you live north of Augusta, you don’t pay any taxes, because you don’t make any money!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    Classic advocacy journalism at work here. The “reporter” has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote whenever/wherever they feel like it, and to hell with those who say otherwise.

    Reporters are supposed to be objective. Like so many articles that appear in the BDN, this is much more an editorial than an objective news article.

    Badly done, Eric.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    Classic advocacy journalism at work here. The “reporter” has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote whenever/wherever they feel like it, and to hell with those who say otherwise.

    Reporters are supposed to be objective. Like so many articles that appear in the BDN, this is much more an editorial than an objective news article.

    Badly done, Eric.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    Classic advocacy journalism at work here. The “reporter” has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote whenever/wherever they feel like it, and to hell with those who say otherwise.

    Reporters are supposed to be objective. Like so many articles that appear in the BDN, this is much more an editorial than an objective news article.

    Badly done, Eric.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    Classic advocacy journalism at work here. The “reporter” has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote whenever/wherever they feel like it, and to hell with those who say otherwise.

    Reporters are supposed to be objective. Like so many articles that appear in the BDN, this is much more an editorial than an objective news article.

    Badly done, Eric.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    Classic advocacy journalism at work here. The “reporter” has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote whenever/wherever they feel like it, and to hell with those who say otherwise.

    Reporters are supposed to be objective. Like so many articles that appear in the BDN, this is much more an editorial than an objective news article.

    Badly done, Eric.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    Classic advocacy journalism at work here. The “reporter” has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote whenever/wherever they feel like it, and to hell with those who say otherwise.

    Reporters are supposed to be objective. Like so many articles that appear in the BDN, this is much more an editorial than an objective news article.

    Badly done, Eric.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    It would be more accurate to say “young, EMPTY HEADED people”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    It would be more accurate to say “young, EMPTY HEADED people”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    It would be more accurate to say “young, EMPTY HEADED people”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    It would be more accurate to say “young, EMPTY HEADED people”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    It would be more accurate to say “young, EMPTY HEADED people”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    It would be more accurate to say “young, EMPTY HEADED people”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jay-Martin/1342425296 Jay Martin

    It would be more accurate to say “young, EMPTY HEADED people”.

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Think all the problems we are having in the middle east might have something to do with them stopping trade with the dollar?

    They are already doing messing with the internet. As an example, you can google a subject, make it controversial, and have a friend do it…you will get different websites to pop up. 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Some like Cutler want to run the State; wonder where his legal residence was while he was in China? 

  • Anonymous

    Wealthy corporations finance the Republican propaganda machine to maintain their own power base.  Now the Republicans are getting so cocky that they are looking for creative ways to disenfranchise folks who are educated enough to see through their lies.  This is called oligarchy, not democracy; it isn’t what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution, and it sure isn’t “conservative” in the sense of preserving the values that made our country great.  Congratulations folks, we collectively decided that we wanted the Republicans to be in charge for a change, and this is how they repay our public trust.  Remember this in the next election cycle.

  • Anonymous

    Wealthy corporations finance the Republican propaganda machine to maintain their own power base.  Now the Republicans are getting so cocky that they are looking for creative ways to disenfranchise folks who are educated enough to see through their lies.  This is called oligarchy, not democracy; it isn’t what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution, and it sure isn’t “conservative” in the sense of preserving the values that made our country great.  Congratulations folks, we collectively decided that we wanted the Republicans to be in charge for a change, and this is how they repay our public trust.  Remember this in the next election cycle.

  • Anonymous

    Wealthy corporations finance the Republican propaganda machine to maintain their own power base.  Now the Republicans are getting so cocky that they are looking for creative ways to disenfranchise folks who are educated enough to see through their lies.  This is called oligarchy, not democracy; it isn’t what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution, and it sure isn’t “conservative” in the sense of preserving the values that made our country great.  Congratulations folks, we collectively decided that we wanted the Republicans to be in charge for a change, and this is how they repay our public trust.  Remember this in the next election cycle.

  • Anonymous

    Wealthy corporations finance the Republican propaganda machine to maintain their own power base.  Now the Republicans are getting so cocky that they are looking for creative ways to disenfranchise folks who are educated enough to see through their lies.  This is called oligarchy, not democracy; it isn’t what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution, and it sure isn’t “conservative” in the sense of preserving the values that made our country great.  Congratulations folks, we collectively decided that we wanted the Republicans to be in charge for a change, and this is how they repay our public trust.  Remember this in the next election cycle.

  • Anonymous

    Wealthy corporations finance the Republican propaganda machine to maintain their own power base.  Now the Republicans are getting so cocky that they are looking for creative ways to disenfranchise folks who are educated enough to see through their lies.  This is called oligarchy, not democracy; it isn’t what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution, and it sure isn’t “conservative” in the sense of preserving the values that made our country great.  Congratulations folks, we collectively decided that we wanted the Republicans to be in charge for a change, and this is how they repay our public trust.  Remember this in the next election cycle.

  • Anonymous

    Even the Poll question is loaded. I am disgusted by this reporter’s portrayal, angle, skewed vision of this story. There are definitive, objective and very important issues that should be discussed and examined from both sides of the fence. But this piece and reporter have nullified any chance of that and made it another divisive issue. You want to know why readership is declining in the paper? Look no further than your professional (or lack thereof) ethics and inability for objective unbiased reporting.

  • Anonymous

    How ’bout seagulls?  Rats?….oh wait they vote now.

  • Anonymous

    Says you and that’s kind of irrelevant. Living somewhere for 9 months (at least) out of a year looks a lot like residency to me. Paying thousands of dollars in tuition, contributing to the local economy through general expenses (as well as paying taxes on those items), pay taxes on wages earned in the state  — how are you able to pretend in your head that these people aren’t paying taxes and contributing to the local economy? How can you say they don’t have an investment and interest in what goes on in the state? Perhaps young people wouldn’t be leaving in droves if it wasn’t for people like you.

  • ReasonAlwaysWins

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our
    kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but
    open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t
    pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids
    couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next
    time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls
    citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law
    that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our
    kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but
    open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t
    pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids
    couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next
    time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls
    citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law
    that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • notateapartier

    The law against voting twice in the same election.

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our
    kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but
    open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t
    pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids
    couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next
    time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls
    citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law
    that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • http://twitter.com/Phoebe6853 Phoebe Figalilly

    “typically open minded people”?

    Have you met the college kids of today?  The liberal dumbing down of our
    kids from our public education system has left our kids anything but
    open minded.   I think there should be IQ requirements, if you can’t
    pull at least a hundred then you don’t vote.  Most of these kids
    couldn’t pass an IQ test with a score of 50 if you spotted them 40 pts. 

    I missed voting in one local election and when I tried to vote the next
    time I had to re-register because they had removed me from the rolls
    citing that they thought I had moved.   I don’t know of any rule or law
    that requires me to vote in every election. 

  • Anonymous

    My, my.  What a very open-minded comment this is.

  • Anonymous

    My, my.  What a very open-minded comment this is.

  • Anonymous

    “many don’t” — That sounds pretty made up. And yes, what’s a “tax report”? What are the various sources of income you’re talking about? How are these kids getting around having their pay checks taxed?

  • Anonymous

    “many don’t” — That sounds pretty made up. And yes, what’s a “tax report”? What are the various sources of income you’re talking about? How are these kids getting around having their pay checks taxed?

  • Anonymous

    “many don’t” — That sounds pretty made up. And yes, what’s a “tax report”? What are the various sources of income you’re talking about? How are these kids getting around having their pay checks taxed?

  • OldWench

    The tea party and radical Republicans are in big trouble with America.  They are being complete and total tools and are trying to politicize federal aid to victims of Hurricane Irene.  We’re going to see North Carolina, Virginia, DC, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and the western half of Maine all turn against these boneheads for wanting to pick fights and delay aid to people who desperately need it.  Every area prone to natural disasters (flooding, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes) are NOT going to be impressed because the next time it could be them impacted by the stupid, immature political game playing by these fools.

  • clamcove

    Nope, voting twice.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    Those in the military vote by their legal residence, though, not necessarily by where they are stationed. For example, one of my former students, a young man that has not yet established residence for himself anywhere else, is on deployment overseas. When he votes, he’ll get an absentee ballot from his town here in Maine and vote accordingly. That is how it is supposed to be done. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    As long as they register to vote in Maine, change their license and plates to Maine, and establish legal residence in Maine, then they are welcome to vote here. Otherwise, the law allows them to obtain an absentee ballot from wherever they reside and vote that way.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    It’s not a push to prevent folks from voting. It’s a push to encourage people to vote where they are legally residents. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    And do you know who one of the richest non taxpaying corporate bosses is? The CEO of GE, who is also the president’s Jobs Czar.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    You’re right: it is our right to vote where we are legally registered.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    You’re right: it is our right to vote where we are legally registered.

  • Anonymous

    The more educated someone is, the more likely they are to vote for Democrats. Sounds like a lame and desperate attempt on the part of the Maine GOP to nullify a couple of hundred votes against them! lol. How pathetic.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    Getting an absentee ballot is not hard at all! I got them for years when I was in college out of state and then when I was overseas for several years. They just mailed them to me. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    Getting an absentee ballot is not hard at all! I got them for years when I was in college out of state and then when I was overseas for several years. They just mailed them to me. 

  • notateapartier

    Whether they work now or after graduation to pay their tuition, these students are still contributing to Maine’s welfare with the exhorbitant rate of out of state tuition. 

  • notateapartier

    Whether they work now or after graduation to pay their tuition, these students are still contributing to Maine’s welfare with the exhorbitant rate of out of state tuition. 

  • notateapartier

    Good thing for you there was same day registration!

  • Anonymous

    If a student chooses to register their vehicle in their home state rather than registering their vehicle in Maine are they stating they are a resident of their home state or of Maine?

  • OldWench

    No, it’s not.  Just be honest about what this is really all about because it’s blatantly obvious.  Conservatives are constantly whining about how they are convinced that all college professors are radically liberal and teach young people to be liberals, as if people can’t think for themselves.  I’ll tell you what…if you want to take away college students’ right to vote where they go to school just because they were raised in a different state then you also need to take away the right of military personnel stationed overseas from being able to vote too.  The reason voting laws are the way they are is to protect EVERY US Citizen’s constitutional RIGHT to be able to cast their vote for each election in  the way that best suits them, and only THEY can determine which way that is.  That right ranges from a UMO college student from Ohio who wants to vote where they live to a Maine reservist serving in Afghanistan casting their vote by absentee ballot.  Don’t like it?  Too bad…it’s the LAW.

  • Anonymous

    You’ll need to ask the Supreme Court that question.  Maybe they think that the students might buy something in the state and pay tax on that purchase.  I doubt many students don’t buy something in the state although I have no proof.  
    Speaking of proof would you tell me where I can find where Acorn dragged illegals to vote?  I assume they got caught and went to court.

  • Anonymous

    You’ll need to ask the Supreme Court that question.  Maybe they think that the students might buy something in the state and pay tax on that purchase.  I doubt many students don’t buy something in the state although I have no proof.  
    Speaking of proof would you tell me where I can find where Acorn dragged illegals to vote?  I assume they got caught and went to court.

  • OldWench

    They “can” OR they can vote where they go to school.  That is the law, period.  You’re just going to have to face the fact that Republicans are toast this next election and LePage is a one term governor.  You know full well that the majority of Maine can’t stand him and that the majority of Mainers are absolutely disgusted and embarrassed by what they have seen out of Augusta.  No amount of attempting to disenfranchise voters will stop that.

  • Anonymous

    MaryBelle there is a very major difference between our soldiers and Mr. LePage. The brave men and women of America’s military volunteer to serve their Nation and Protect our way of life. They are willing to put themselves in harms way, sacrificing their lives if necessary,  to defend all that we as Americans hold dear. Mr. LePage never volunteered to serve his country. In fact he ran off to Canada to avoid serving in the military. Please do not make the terrible mistake of comparing the brave men and women of our military to a yellow coward like LePage.

  • Anonymous

    What does that have to do with voting where you attend school?

  • Anonymous

    I will say this: Charlie Webster has managed to shift the debate away from the merits of same-day voter registration, and on to whether the chariman of the GOP is functionally retarded.

    Well played, sir.

  • Anonymous

    The US Supreme Court has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote where they attend school, and to hell with local officials who want to stand in the way of voting rights.

    The more you know!

  • Anonymous

    The US Supreme Court has an obvious point of view: college students should be able to vote where they attend school, and to hell with local officials who want to stand in the way of voting rights.

    The more you know!

  • Anonymous

    Guess Charlie still doesn’t understand the the Supreme Court has ALREADY RULED and student CAN use their dormitory as their address. Continuing this exercise in post mortem equine flagellation only makes Charlie look more and more stupid. To vote YOU DO NOT HAVE TO OWN A CAR OR OWN A HOUSE. Property ownership and paying taxes-at least not property or vehicle registration taxes, IS NOT a requirement to register to vote. Yes, they MAY be used to determine someone’s residency status, BUT THEY ARE NOT the only means to do so. Seems Charlie wants to reinstitute the poll tax. What’s next, Charlie, denying women and minorities the right to vote? And as stated in the article  THERE IS NO OBLIGATION TO “UNREGISTER.” PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION.  

  • Anonymous

    Yes, according to federal supreme court rulings, they should not be disenfranchised from voting.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, according to federal supreme court rulings, they should not be disenfranchised from voting.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, according to federal supreme court rulings, they should not be disenfranchised from voting.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, according to federal supreme court rulings, they should not be disenfranchised from voting.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a clue: when you reside in a college dorm, in a college town, that is your residence. If one should choose to vote in their town of residence, that is their right, and it has been upheld by the Supreme Court. It matters not whether they pay taxes there. And this is nothing new. The Supreme Court made their ruling in 1979. Why is it that when presented with prima facie evidence, Charlie Webster doesn’t get it. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1643335372 Bethany Reynolds

    For the record, newportres, I am not a “transplant.” I was born here into a family of life-long Mainers, and have spent most of my 50-plus years in the same county where my ancestors have lived since Maine was still part of Massachusetts. Not all natives are close-minded. Some of us appreciate the diversity of ideas and energy that people “from away” can bring to our state.

  • Anonymous

    Well then the obvious solution to the problem is to have out of state students get absentee ballots from their home state so they can vote.  Unless they feel that they have a vested interest in the state where they attend school, which I don’t believe most do as most of my college buddies from out of state left pretty quick for other places all over the country and haven’t looked back.  Talking to them they have no plans to return and thus had no interest here other than their education.

  • Anonymous

    The definitive, objective fact of the matter is that students can vote where they attend school, period. The Supreme Court has ruled on this. You can disagree with the fact all you want, but it does not change the fact that this is allowed and legal.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the facts miame— it is perfectly legal for students to vote where they attend school, the Supreme Court ruled on this some time ago.

  • Anonymous

    LOL, sometimes it’s hard to distinguish the sarcasm from the idiotic comments :)

  • Anonymous

    Good point, I stand corrected!

  • Anonymous

    Good point as well, I stand corrected!

  • Anonymous

    I think we SHOULD ferret out voter fraud if it is occurring, but nothing Charlie Webster has shown indicates voter fraud.

    I for one am voting to restore same-day voter registration this fall, because I don’t see how restricting that reduces the chance of voter fraud at all.

  • Anonymous

    I think we SHOULD ferret out voter fraud if it is occurring, but nothing Charlie Webster has shown indicates voter fraud.

    I for one am voting to restore same-day voter registration this fall, because I don’t see how restricting that reduces the chance of voter fraud at all.

  • Anonymous

    But you are NOT breaking the law if you vote where you attend college.

    The only way you could break the law here is if you voted via abscentee ballot AND voted where you attended school in the same election.

    And there has been zero evidence that happened.

  • Anonymous

    …because he is stationed overseas.

    If they are stationed in the US, they are permitted to vote where they are stationed. No absentee ballot required.

    That said, it is perfectly legal to do these two things:

    1. Vote via absentee ballot where you have legal residence
    2. Vote in person at the polling place where you are stationed provided it is a US territory that has a polling place.

    You cannot do BOTH at once, that would be fraud. But either option is legal, per our Supreme Court.

  • Anonymous

    …because he is stationed overseas.

    If they are stationed in the US, they are permitted to vote where they are stationed. No absentee ballot required.

    That said, it is perfectly legal to do these two things:

    1. Vote via absentee ballot where you have legal residence
    2. Vote in person at the polling place where you are stationed provided it is a US territory that has a polling place.

    You cannot do BOTH at once, that would be fraud. But either option is legal, per our Supreme Court.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Mr. Webster would care to look up the words ‘slander’ and ‘libel’.

    The most one can expect in the way of an apology form the LePage gang is that they didn’t know
     that they didn’t know…

    … with a laugh .

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You keep playing the same game, wench. Students who are not legal residents have no right to vote in Maine. 
    Here is some information that might benefit you.
    http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/resident.htm

  • OldWench

    Gotta love your selective reading.  Apparently you paid no attention to this part:
    “This may not be construed to prevent a student at any institution of learning from qualifying as a voter in the municipality where the student resides while attending that institution [Title 21-A, §112.7]”

    To paraphrase…this means Webster can’t deny students their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to vote WHERE THEY ATTEND SCHOOL just because he is afraid they will vote for someone other than he would like then to vote for.

    You lose.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    … and apparently you cannot understand what “principle residence” means either. An out of state student paying out of state tuition does not have a principle residence in a dorm room or college apartment. You also truncated the beginning of that quote. Here is the full quote you cherry picked:

    The following items should be kept in mind when determining residency for a college student:

    A person does not gain or lose a residence solely because of the person’s presence or absence while a student in any institution of learning. This may not be construed to prevent a student at any institution of learning from qualifying as a voter in the municipality where the student resides while attending that institution [Title 21-A, §112.7]

    When registering students, the registrar must make the determination of residency as he or she would for any potential voter.

    A student may have only one residence at any one time.

    If a student has established residency in another municipality or State for any reason, and if the circumstances have not changed, the other jurisdiction may be the legal residence where the student should be registered to vote.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    … and apparently you cannot understand what “principle residence” means either. An out of state student paying out of state tuition does not have a principle residence in a dorm room or college apartment. You also truncated the beginning of that quote. Here is the full quote you cherry picked:

    The following items should be kept in mind when determining residency for a college student:

    A person does not gain or lose a residence solely because of the person’s presence or absence while a student in any institution of learning. This may not be construed to prevent a student at any institution of learning from qualifying as a voter in the municipality where the student resides while attending that institution [Title 21-A, §112.7]

    When registering students, the registrar must make the determination of residency as he or she would for any potential voter.

    A student may have only one residence at any one time.

    If a student has established residency in another municipality or State for any reason, and if the circumstances have not changed, the other jurisdiction may be the legal residence where the student should be registered to vote.

  • Anonymous

    God forbid a kid from Mass. should vote here!!!!

  • Anonymous

    God forbid a kid from Mass. should vote here!!!!

  • Anonymous

    God forbid a kid from Mass. should vote here!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Yes.  Old folks who live in assisted living housing or nursing homes, or with their families for that matter, would have to provide proof of residence.  Try doing that when your name isn’t on the electric bill or the property tax bill.

  • Anonymous

    when was the last time you saw illegals arrested they protest as illegals and dont get arrested and you would have had to have lived under a rock for the past couple of years to have not heard about all of acorns illegal actions  or maybe you dont read anything but liberal media

  • Anonymous

    it is very easy to be overtaxed anyone who works hard and makes a decent living is  until a flat tax  happens and everyone pays their share all of us who have made the best of our professions and excelled will be overtaxed   with a name like kitterykid I wouldnt expect you to understand pretty close to mass.

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like a true flatlander most of you still think it is still mass.

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like a true flatlander most of you still think it is still mass.

  • Anonymous

    Unions have been the downfall of this country for years  they were once needed now just a money pit. as for social security  it was meant to be supplimental income meant suppliment your retirement plan you planned out during your working years, not meant to be a living wage or used as a disability plan. the statements I get say I would recieve more if I became disabled today than if I worked and payed in until I was 70  not real hard to figure out whats wrong there  do the math

  • Anonymous

    Unions have been the downfall of this country for years  they were once needed now just a money pit. as for social security  it was meant to be supplimental income meant suppliment your retirement plan you planned out during your working years, not meant to be a living wage or used as a disability plan. the statements I get say I would recieve more if I became disabled today than if I worked and payed in until I was 70  not real hard to figure out whats wrong there  do the math

  • Anonymous

    Unions have been the downfall of this country for years  they were once needed now just a money pit. as for social security  it was meant to be supplimental income meant suppliment your retirement plan you planned out during your working years, not meant to be a living wage or used as a disability plan. the statements I get say I would recieve more if I became disabled today than if I worked and payed in until I was 70  not real hard to figure out whats wrong there  do the math

  • Anonymous

    Unions have been the downfall of this country for years  they were once needed now just a money pit. as for social security  it was meant to be supplimental income meant suppliment your retirement plan you planned out during your working years, not meant to be a living wage or used as a disability plan. the statements I get say I would recieve more if I became disabled today than if I worked and payed in until I was 70  not real hard to figure out whats wrong there  do the math

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    too bad this was not true maybe we could have stolen the last one  and the country wouldnt be in the shape it is now   hows that stimulus and change workin out for ya

  • Anonymous

    almost as childish as obamas statements about inheriting all of his problems  ” it is all bushes fault” now there is a childish statement   you liberals crack me up. but I am pretty sure the country is waking up an we will have the last laugh!!

  • Anonymous

    I take it you are proud of all of obamas huge accomplishments!!!!  LOL

  • Anonymous

    how many is enough  do you have a number in mind  fraud is fraud and needs to be stopped one vote at a time 

  • Anonymous

    Frankly, I don’t care, but we must find a means to assure that any CITIZEN ,who is a registered voter, Gets to vote only one time during an election. ID cards are the answer. You need an ID to but beer, take out a library book, open a checking account, cash a check, get a passport, DO YOU GET MY POINT?

  • Anonymous

    Frankly, I don’t care, but we must find a means to assure that any CITIZEN ,who is a registered voter, Gets to vote only one time during an election. ID cards are the answer. You need an ID to but beer, take out a library book, open a checking account, cash a check, get a passport, DO YOU GET MY POINT?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Funny, how it’s only class warfare when the poor fight back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    I won’t claim to be thrilled with everything the president is doing, but I also won’t suffer fools.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Just FYI, we sort of got past the idea of owning property meaning you got a vote a long time ago. Why, we even let those homeless people vote nowadays. Horrors.

  • Anonymous

    The last one was supposed to go to Hillary Clinton. But she was too hated by both democrats and republicans for the honor. 

    Right now, elections have to be pretty close to steal effectively. Although the last election in Minnesota was stolen. Exit polls showed all 6 republicans lost. But they only managed to steal 4. 

  • Anonymous

    If that’s true, then the university or college where they are students owe them money for all that out of state tuition! ;-)

  • Anonymous

    If that’s true, then the university or college where they are students owe them money for all that out of state tuition! ;-)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A5M3VSG6VJ37KRN225CMAHTZ4Q Rubdude

    This question has been answered definitively many times, in many jurisdictions. 
    If they are a resident, the state requires them to acquire a drivers
    license with their current address, register your out of state vehicle
    in the state, and pay the appropriate registration fees and taxes.  If
    they refuse to do something simple like get a state drivers license  or
    change their vehicle registration, then they are actively demonstrating a
    lack of intent to become a resident of the state.  State and federal
    courts have used the same test for years when it comes to members of our
    armed forces, and the only apparent reason not to apply the same
    standard is to manipulate elections.  By the way, if this is supposed to be news, and not opinion, I recommend further general education for the author in  history and law, and maybe a class or two on writing objectively.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A5M3VSG6VJ37KRN225CMAHTZ4Q Rubdude

    You are factually incorrect.  In fact you are factually incorrect in
    many comments, either through ignorance of the subject, or just a
    political bias.  By reading your posts, I would guess a little of both. 
    The supreme court has ruled that a student
    can register to vote where they are a legal resident.  The state is
    allowed to determine requirements
    for residency.  Some of the things that states are allowed to consider
    is did a person get a local drivers license or change their vehicle
    registration.  Did the person become a member of a local civic
    organization or church, did the person renew an out of state
    professional or drivers license or vehicle registration.  Don’t let a
    person who writes a terribly slanted story while posing as an objective
    reporter provide you with an unwarranted sense of knowledge on any given
    subject, and if you do, be ready to be looked on as the fool you are.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A5M3VSG6VJ37KRN225CMAHTZ4Q Rubdude

    You are factually incorrect.  In fact you are factually incorrect in
    many comments, either through ignorance of the subject, or just a
    political bias.  By reading your posts, I would guess a little of both. 
    The supreme court has ruled that a student
    can register to vote where they are a legal resident.  The state is
    allowed to determine requirements
    for residency.  Some of the things that states are allowed to consider
    is did a person get a local drivers license or change their vehicle
    registration.  Did the person become a member of a local civic
    organization or church, did the person renew an out of state
    professional or drivers license or vehicle registration.  Don’t let a
    person who writes a terribly slanted story while posing as an objective
    reporter provide you with an unwarranted sense of knowledge on any given
    subject, and if you do, be ready to be looked on as the fool you are.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A5M3VSG6VJ37KRN225CMAHTZ4Q Rubdude

    You are factually incorrect.  In fact you are factually incorrect in
    many comments, either through ignorance of the subject, or just a
    political bias.  By reading your posts, I would guess a little of both. 
    The supreme court has ruled that a student
    can register to vote where they are a legal resident.  The state is
    allowed to determine requirements
    for residency.  Some of the things that states are allowed to consider
    is did a person get a local drivers license or change their vehicle
    registration.  Did the person become a member of a local civic
    organization or church, did the person renew an out of state
    professional or drivers license or vehicle registration.  Don’t let a
    person who writes a terribly slanted story while posing as an objective
    reporter provide you with an unwarranted sense of knowledge on any given
    subject, and if you do, be ready to be looked on as the fool you are.

  • Anonymous

    We are all currently suffering fools but we are gaining ground, we got the house, the senate is next and we all know the country wont be fooled by a smooth talkin community organizer again 

  • Anonymous

    I have no idea what your point is?  How are the poor fighting back?  By getting educated and getting better jobs or waiting for you to take my legally earned money and giving it to them?

  • Anonymous

    I have no idea what your point is?  How are the poor fighting back?  By getting educated and getting better jobs or waiting for you to take my legally earned money and giving it to them?

  • Anonymous

    If I am voting in Indiana and also voting in Maine, how am I voting in the same election unless a national election

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    If you aren’t making more than $250,000 a year I’m not interested in taking more from you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    We are all currently suffering fools; one of them is the subject of this article.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Supreme Court said it: one person, one vote. Not one person, one vote in two places.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    They committed voter registration fraud. Show me where they committed actual voter/election fraud.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Or, you could try reviewing Symm v. US like the article suggests, and see that everything you just said in this post is wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Or, you could try reviewing Symm v. US like the article suggests, and see that everything you just said in this post is wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Or, you could try reviewing Symm v. US like the article suggests, and see that everything you just said in this post is wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Or, you could try reviewing Symm v. US like the article suggests, and see that everything you just said in this post is wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

    Ask a snowbird with Florida plates.

  • Anonymous

    Overtaxed, the math problem is simple. You should stick a gun in your aasss right now and pull the trigger.

  • Anonymous

    Only if you haven’t voted before voting day. Then if you didn’t you can’t go back and vote.

  • Anonymous

    Only if you haven’t voted before voting day. Then if you didn’t you can’t go back and vote.

  • Anonymous

    MDI Lady should hang himself from the bars in his cell too from what I can see. Still, MDI Lady should do it with him.

  • Anonymous

    MDI Lady should hang himself from the bars in his cell too from what I can see. Still, MDI Lady should do it with him.

  • Anonymous

    I knew Gore won in 2000. I coined an expression that never caught on: A hand in the Busch is worth two in the Gore. One that I think should have caught on was “NAFTA do we HAFTA?

  • Anonymous

    You just saved the life of a shhitt eating dog.

  • OldWench

    Um…you need to look up the legal definition of “principle residence.”  It means where the person resides for the majority of the year.  Students attend school 9 months out of the year and IF they return to another state they are there for only 3 months at most.  On voting day they are at school, which is why they are guaranteed the right to vote where the go to school under the US Constitution.  Again…you lose this argument regardless of how you try to misinterpret the law.

  • OldWench

    Um…you need to look up the legal definition of “principle residence.”  It means where the person resides for the majority of the year.  Students attend school 9 months out of the year and IF they return to another state they are there for only 3 months at most.  On voting day they are at school, which is why they are guaranteed the right to vote where the go to school under the US Constitution.  Again…you lose this argument regardless of how you try to misinterpret the law.

  • Anonymous

    I just put a chickenwire fence around my ilk to keep Charlie I’m off my Nuttagain Webster from tripping on it and suing the Marsians back into the year two stupid.

  • Anonymous

    He means the democratic process. You see, every time his father knocked his sister up he got threatened within an inch of his life. Make sense now!!

  • Anonymous

    I was getting exhausted. Yes, they pay taxes on money earned in Maine and on Money spent in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    With all due respect, you sound crazy and yet I’d like to know what you mean.

  • Anonymous

    I know it’s scary forTTardPublicans to see me vote. But My vote counts only once, just like yours. I always voted in college at the University of Maine. It was never clear where I was supposed to vote. One year I lived in Old Town and when I asked where I could vote I was told to go to Helen Hunt (Go to Hell and Hunt). Now there’s a fine pickle for  you eh??

  • Anonymous

    Now there’s an idea.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NNIZMC53H2WBMKRCGE4PVE7KCM Paul

    They do have absentee voting for a reason…quit being so lazy :)  Just saying :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NNIZMC53H2WBMKRCGE4PVE7KCM Paul

    They do have absentee voting for a reason…quit being so lazy :)  Just saying :)

  • Buzlno

    True. Without seeing the face or hearing the tone of voice, it is hard to tell. But people on this almost always take it the wrong way.
    And don’t forget another old saying either: “There’s some truth in every joke” Otherwise why else would people laugh at them?

  • Buzlno

    True. Without seeing the face or hearing the tone of voice, it is hard to tell. But people on this almost always take it the wrong way.
    And don’t forget another old saying either: “There’s some truth in every joke” Otherwise why else would people laugh at them?

  • Buzlno

    True. Without seeing the face or hearing the tone of voice, it is hard to tell. But people on this almost always take it the wrong way.
    And don’t forget another old saying either: “There’s some truth in every joke” Otherwise why else would people laugh at them?

  • Anonymous

    wow u had better change your screen name cuz you definitly dont know best, but that is a typical democrat response always sticking it up the workin tax payin mans %^&$# 

  • Anonymous

    WOW do you think thay registered just for fun or maybe because they wanted to cast a vote   fraudulent votes lead to fraudulent elections  dont you understand the sysyem or maybe thats why liberals are always trying to change  things  so it is easier for their little uneducated minds to comprehend

  • Anonymous

    WOW do you think thay registered just for fun or maybe because they wanted to cast a vote   fraudulent votes lead to fraudulent elections  dont you understand the sysyem or maybe thats why liberals are always trying to change  things  so it is easier for their little uneducated minds to comprehend

  • Anonymous

    WOW do you think thay registered just for fun or maybe because they wanted to cast a vote   fraudulent votes lead to fraudulent elections  dont you understand the sysyem or maybe thats why liberals are always trying to change  things  so it is easier for their little uneducated minds to comprehend

  • Anonymous

    WOW do you think thay registered just for fun or maybe because they wanted to cast a vote   fraudulent votes lead to fraudulent elections  dont you understand the sysyem or maybe thats why liberals are always trying to change  things  so it is easier for their little uneducated minds to comprehend

  • Anonymous

    WOW do you think thay registered just for fun or maybe because they wanted to cast a vote   fraudulent votes lead to fraudulent elections  dont you understand the sysyem or maybe thats why liberals are always trying to change  things  so it is easier for their little uneducated minds to comprehend

  • Anonymous

    WOW do you think thay registered just for fun or maybe because they wanted to cast a vote   fraudulent votes lead to fraudulent elections  dont you understand the sysyem or maybe thats why liberals are always trying to change  things  so it is easier for their little uneducated minds to comprehend

  • Anonymous

    I didnt know you came fron jersey, now your responses are all clear to me

  • Anonymous

    Well Obama is fixing all that now, they are printing money like it is a monopoly game to replentish the treasury, we still have all of our troops overseas that he was to bring home, he tried to take credit for Iraq after campaigning against it, and the US now has less respect from other countries and we are broke despite his wonderful stimulus socialist plans maybe he needs to take a few more vacations, maybe bow down to a few more kings naa lets just blame bush a little more seems to be workin out just great for the country!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well Obama is fixing all that now, they are printing money like it is a monopoly game to replentish the treasury, we still have all of our troops overseas that he was to bring home, he tried to take credit for Iraq after campaigning against it, and the US now has less respect from other countries and we are broke despite his wonderful stimulus socialist plans maybe he needs to take a few more vacations, maybe bow down to a few more kings naa lets just blame bush a little more seems to be workin out just great for the country!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well Obama is fixing all that now, they are printing money like it is a monopoly game to replentish the treasury, we still have all of our troops overseas that he was to bring home, he tried to take credit for Iraq after campaigning against it, and the US now has less respect from other countries and we are broke despite his wonderful stimulus socialist plans maybe he needs to take a few more vacations, maybe bow down to a few more kings naa lets just blame bush a little more seems to be workin out just great for the country!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well Obama is fixing all that now, they are printing money like it is a monopoly game to replentish the treasury, we still have all of our troops overseas that he was to bring home, he tried to take credit for Iraq after campaigning against it, and the US now has less respect from other countries and we are broke despite his wonderful stimulus socialist plans maybe he needs to take a few more vacations, maybe bow down to a few more kings naa lets just blame bush a little more seems to be workin out just great for the country!!!

  • Anonymous

    truth is out every day  watch it on fox, or maybe tune into beck or rush

  • Anonymous

    truth is out every day  watch it on fox, or maybe tune into beck or rush

  • Anonymous

    truth is out every day  watch it on fox, or maybe tune into beck or rush

  • Anonymous

    truth is out every day  watch it on fox, or maybe tune into beck or rush

  • Anonymous

    truth is out every day  watch it on fox, or maybe tune into beck or rush

  • Anonymous

    truth is out every day  watch it on fox, or maybe tune into beck or rush

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NNIZMC53H2WBMKRCGE4PVE7KCM Paul

    I think showing an ID when you vote is a great idea…because as others have pointed out…you need to do it for so many other things that are less important…I don’t see the issue with proving who you are when you are engaging in such an important thing as voting…I mean they want to see your ID when you are buying your Allen’s Coffee Brandy right?? LOL :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NNIZMC53H2WBMKRCGE4PVE7KCM Paul

    I think showing an ID when you vote is a great idea…because as others have pointed out…you need to do it for so many other things that are less important…I don’t see the issue with proving who you are when you are engaging in such an important thing as voting…I mean they want to see your ID when you are buying your Allen’s Coffee Brandy right?? LOL :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NNIZMC53H2WBMKRCGE4PVE7KCM Paul

    I think showing an ID when you vote is a great idea…because as others have pointed out…you need to do it for so many other things that are less important…I don’t see the issue with proving who you are when you are engaging in such an important thing as voting…I mean they want to see your ID when you are buying your Allen’s Coffee Brandy right?? LOL :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NNIZMC53H2WBMKRCGE4PVE7KCM Paul

    I think showing an ID when you vote is a great idea…because as others have pointed out…you need to do it for so many other things that are less important…I don’t see the issue with proving who you are when you are engaging in such an important thing as voting…I mean they want to see your ID when you are buying your Allen’s Coffee Brandy right?? LOL :)

  • Anonymous

    Can you do that?

  • Anonymous

    Can you do that?

  • Anonymous

    Can you do that?

  • Anonymous

    Can you do that?

  • Anonymous

    Can you do that?

  • Anonymous

    Can you do that?

  • Anonymous

    Can you do that?

  • Anonymous

    Funny. Make a good T shirt.

    More and more people seem to know the 2000 election was fixed. It was even on CNN , however briefly.

  • Anonymous

    I did hear there was a lot of talk by the right wing but I never saw where Acorn was dragging illegals to the poles.  I guess by your answer you have no proof.
    Typical of many right wingers to make statements that are a far cry from the truth when it comes to this president.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You have never read the U.S. Constitution. There is no section anywhere in the document that addresses this issue (out of state student voting)

  • Anonymous

    “Our gov. is working for the corporations on the front lines.” I guess to understand your point of view, is the quoted line meant to be sarcasm or sympathy for our Governor. If it’s the former, then you point needs to be more clearly stated. If it’s the latter, then my first comment stands.

    Either way, the real difference is that soldiers were & are lied to about honor, glory, saving the country and then denied real jobs, denied an education until after their tour (if they get back) so that the service becomes a job opportunity.

    On the other hand, LePage knows exactly why he shills for corporations – it’s the money honey. It’s always about the money.

    “Follow the money” – Deepthroat

  • Anonymous

    “Our gov. is working for the corporations on the front lines.” I guess to understand your point of view, is the quoted line meant to be sarcasm or sympathy for our Governor. If it’s the former, then you point needs to be more clearly stated. If it’s the latter, then my first comment stands.

    Either way, the real difference is that soldiers were & are lied to about honor, glory, saving the country and then denied real jobs, denied an education until after their tour (if they get back) so that the service becomes a job opportunity.

    On the other hand, LePage knows exactly why he shills for corporations – it’s the money honey. It’s always about the money.

    “Follow the money” – Deepthroat

  • Anonymous

    “Our gov. is working for the corporations on the front lines.” I guess to understand your point of view, is the quoted line meant to be sarcasm or sympathy for our Governor. If it’s the former, then you point needs to be more clearly stated. If it’s the latter, then my first comment stands.

    Either way, the real difference is that soldiers were & are lied to about honor, glory, saving the country and then denied real jobs, denied an education until after their tour (if they get back) so that the service becomes a job opportunity.

    On the other hand, LePage knows exactly why he shills for corporations – it’s the money honey. It’s always about the money.

    “Follow the money” – Deepthroat

  • Anonymous

    “Our gov. is working for the corporations on the front lines.” I guess to understand your point of view, is the quoted line meant to be sarcasm or sympathy for our Governor. If it’s the former, then you point needs to be more clearly stated. If it’s the latter, then my first comment stands.

    Either way, the real difference is that soldiers were & are lied to about honor, glory, saving the country and then denied real jobs, denied an education until after their tour (if they get back) so that the service becomes a job opportunity.

    On the other hand, LePage knows exactly why he shills for corporations – it’s the money honey. It’s always about the money.

    “Follow the money” – Deepthroat

  • Anonymous

    “Our gov. is working for the corporations on the front lines.” I guess to understand your point of view, is the quoted line meant to be sarcasm or sympathy for our Governor. If it’s the former, then you point needs to be more clearly stated. If it’s the latter, then my first comment stands.

    Either way, the real difference is that soldiers were & are lied to about honor, glory, saving the country and then denied real jobs, denied an education until after their tour (if they get back) so that the service becomes a job opportunity.

    On the other hand, LePage knows exactly why he shills for corporations – it’s the money honey. It’s always about the money.

    “Follow the money” – Deepthroat

  • Anonymous

    Yes, there is that option as well. But the point here is that college students are legally allowed to vote where they attend school, even if they are paying out-of-state tuition… and the GOP Chairman seems hell-bent on showing belligerent ignorance on what federal laws are on voting rights.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, there is that option as well. But the point here is that college students are legally allowed to vote where they attend school, even if they are paying out-of-state tuition… and the GOP Chairman seems hell-bent on showing belligerent ignorance on what federal laws are on voting rights.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, there is that option as well. But the point here is that college students are legally allowed to vote where they attend school, even if they are paying out-of-state tuition… and the GOP Chairman seems hell-bent on showing belligerent ignorance on what federal laws are on voting rights.

  • Anonymous

    I am happy to admit I am wrong when I am wrong. Where am I wrong here? The Supreme Court case in question was specifically about students being able to register to vote where they attend school. For the duration of their time in college, their school was their legal residence.

  • Anonymous

    I am happy to admit I am wrong when I am wrong. Where am I wrong here? The Supreme Court case in question was specifically about students being able to register to vote where they attend school. For the duration of their time in college, their school was their legal residence.

  • Anonymous

    Neither sarcasm or sympathy meant here for out governor. Just seeing from afar his role in turning over the state for “business” as he calls it. I call it allowing cronies to buy state agencies like prisons. It has been shown that the private prisons like non violent or easy prisoners and they are more expensive than state run.

    The deregulation of energy and utilities which was supposed to bring better service and lower prices. It has instead brought higher rates and worse service. Deregulation of banks, same thing. Opens the door for corruption, which we are paying for dearly.There is a place for govt. laws and state and federal run institutions. The grand experiment did not work of allowing corporations, wall street and banking to self regulate.Sorry for not being clear, my fault. Just had a visual of combat where the front line doesn’t do as well as back up, technical support etc. Like the republican operative who was instrumental in stealing the 2004 election who died in a small plane crash just as he was about to testify to congress. As a person, I like our governor. Don’t think any politician has much say in how their states and country are run these days. While the overall premise of lepage’s ideas may sound good, destruction is being carried out daily for Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Neither sarcasm or sympathy meant here for out governor. Just seeing from afar his role in turning over the state for “business” as he calls it. I call it allowing cronies to buy state agencies like prisons. It has been shown that the private prisons like non violent or easy prisoners and they are more expensive than state run.

    The deregulation of energy and utilities which was supposed to bring better service and lower prices. It has instead brought higher rates and worse service. Deregulation of banks, same thing. Opens the door for corruption, which we are paying for dearly.There is a place for govt. laws and state and federal run institutions. The grand experiment did not work of allowing corporations, wall street and banking to self regulate.Sorry for not being clear, my fault. Just had a visual of combat where the front line doesn’t do as well as back up, technical support etc. Like the republican operative who was instrumental in stealing the 2004 election who died in a small plane crash just as he was about to testify to congress. As a person, I like our governor. Don’t think any politician has much say in how their states and country are run these days. While the overall premise of lepage’s ideas may sound good, destruction is being carried out daily for Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Neither sarcasm or sympathy meant here for out governor. Just seeing from afar his role in turning over the state for “business” as he calls it. I call it allowing cronies to buy state agencies like prisons. It has been shown that the private prisons like non violent or easy prisoners and they are more expensive than state run.

    The deregulation of energy and utilities which was supposed to bring better service and lower prices. It has instead brought higher rates and worse service. Deregulation of banks, same thing. Opens the door for corruption, which we are paying for dearly.There is a place for govt. laws and state and federal run institutions. The grand experiment did not work of allowing corporations, wall street and banking to self regulate.Sorry for not being clear, my fault. Just had a visual of combat where the front line doesn’t do as well as back up, technical support etc. Like the republican operative who was instrumental in stealing the 2004 election who died in a small plane crash just as he was about to testify to congress. As a person, I like our governor. Don’t think any politician has much say in how their states and country are run these days. While the overall premise of lepage’s ideas may sound good, destruction is being carried out daily for Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Neither sarcasm or sympathy meant here for out governor. Just seeing from afar his role in turning over the state for “business” as he calls it. I call it allowing cronies to buy state agencies like prisons. It has been shown that the private prisons like non violent or easy prisoners and they are more expensive than state run.

    The deregulation of energy and utilities which was supposed to bring better service and lower prices. It has instead brought higher rates and worse service. Deregulation of banks, same thing. Opens the door for corruption, which we are paying for dearly.There is a place for govt. laws and state and federal run institutions. The grand experiment did not work of allowing corporations, wall street and banking to self regulate.Sorry for not being clear, my fault. Just had a visual of combat where the front line doesn’t do as well as back up, technical support etc. Like the republican operative who was instrumental in stealing the 2004 election who died in a small plane crash just as he was about to testify to congress. As a person, I like our governor. Don’t think any politician has much say in how their states and country are run these days. While the overall premise of lepage’s ideas may sound good, destruction is being carried out daily for Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Our brave men and women are being asked to do things that hurt them morally. High suicide rate in our military as a result. The cost cutting for the Pentagon is not for no bid contracts and cost overruns , waste and fraud but ….our troops health benefits, wages and retirement. This is not fair to the brave and patriotic men and women who make up the military. For an explanation to the suicides , read this blog. It is all over the news right now.

    http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/09/01/major-war-crime-coverup-called-attention-to-by-wikileaks-cable/

  • Anonymous

    Our brave men and women are being asked to do things that hurt them morally. High suicide rate in our military as a result. The cost cutting for the Pentagon is not for no bid contracts and cost overruns , waste and fraud but ….our troops health benefits, wages and retirement. This is not fair to the brave and patriotic men and women who make up the military. For an explanation to the suicides , read this blog. It is all over the news right now.

    http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/09/01/major-war-crime-coverup-called-attention-to-by-wikileaks-cable/

  • Anonymous

    Our brave men and women are being asked to do things that hurt them morally. High suicide rate in our military as a result. The cost cutting for the Pentagon is not for no bid contracts and cost overruns , waste and fraud but ….our troops health benefits, wages and retirement. This is not fair to the brave and patriotic men and women who make up the military. For an explanation to the suicides , read this blog. It is all over the news right now.

    http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/09/01/major-war-crime-coverup-called-attention-to-by-wikileaks-cable/

  • Anonymous

    Our brave men and women are being asked to do things that hurt them morally. High suicide rate in our military as a result. The cost cutting for the Pentagon is not for no bid contracts and cost overruns , waste and fraud but ….our troops health benefits, wages and retirement. This is not fair to the brave and patriotic men and women who make up the military. For an explanation to the suicides , read this blog. It is all over the news right now.

    http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/09/01/major-war-crime-coverup-called-attention-to-by-wikileaks-cable/

  • Anonymous

    We are all surrounded by the truth of the wonderful president at this time. A failing economy a failing US dollar, a  president who wants tax increases to balance his unjust spending and deficit and no end in sight  if that is not enough truth  for you what more do you want dont forget the rising cost of energy and gas  due to the enviromentalists running the country and all of the green nonsense ethanol and all of the other non cost effective solutions, and yet somehow we send money to brazil for their oil explorations and if I may quote your great Obama ” we want to be brazils biggest customer”   end quote!!!!   But I guess what can you expect from a president who did not even know how many states there were in the country he  was campaigning  to run!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    We are all surrounded by the truth of the wonderful president at this time. A failing economy a failing US dollar, a  president who wants tax increases to balance his unjust spending and deficit and no end in sight  if that is not enough truth  for you what more do you want dont forget the rising cost of energy and gas  due to the enviromentalists running the country and all of the green nonsense ethanol and all of the other non cost effective solutions, and yet somehow we send money to brazil for their oil explorations and if I may quote your great Obama ” we want to be brazils biggest customer”   end quote!!!!   But I guess what can you expect from a president who did not even know how many states there were in the country he  was campaigning  to run!!!!!

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