BANGOR, Maine — The Rev. Robert Carlson sexually abused several children over the last four decades and groomed them to be his victims, according to people interviewed by the Maine State Police during a now concluded investigation into allegations leveled against the late community leader.

“There clearly were victims of sexual abuse that indicated that Bob Carlson was their abuser,” Lt. Christopher Coleman, commander of the Maine State Police’s Major Crimes Unit for the northern part of the state, said Wednesday. “It appears that it occurred over many years and it caused a lot of trauma to many people.”

Exactly how many children fell victim to Carlson is not known, and it is likely that other child sex abuse victims chose not to come forward, Coleman said.

Carlson was a longtime religious and civic leader who committed suicide by jumping from the Penobscot Narrows Bridge on Nov. 13, 2011, shortly after learning detectives were looking into allegations of sex abuse involving him and a boy.

To protect the identity of the victims, details about what Carlson did to the children, many of whom are now adults, were removed entirely from a lengthy state police report on the investigation released Wednesday, Coleman said.

The report was issued “to allow the public to know what happened [while] protecting their privacy,” the lieutenant said, referring to the victims.

While the victims’ names, ages, genders and the sexual abuse details are gone, what is clear in the 104-page report is that several people questioned Carlson’s behavior toward young boys over the years but few took action.

In this and other respects, the Carlson investigation is similar to the child abuse investigation of former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, who recently was convicted of 45 counts of child sexual abuse.

State police detectives began their investigation on Nov. 10 at the request of the Penobscot County district attorney’s office after that office received an anonymous letter stating Carlson “sexually abused a young boy several years ago” while he was the pastor at East Orrington Congregational Church.

“This boy is now a grown man and they still have a secret relationship,” the unsigned letter stated.

That letter was sent by a friend of one of Carlson’s victims shortly after the Sandusky story broke, Coleman said.

Family members of the Orrington boy, who is now a 52-year-old man living in Bangor, said Wednesday they are relieved the investigation is finally over.

“The fact that they’re finally saying that there was more than one victim is a relief,” the victim’s sister said. “I think that devastated my brother the most. He thought he was alone.”

The state police report includes interviews with at least 18 people, including Carlson’s victims. Also interviewed were the former president of Husson University, a Penobscot County sheriff’s deputy and detective, a Bangor police officer and a therapist who treated some of Carlson’s victims. They said they had either received information about or witnessed Carlson engage in criminal or inappropriate sexual behavior over the last four decades.

The therapist, who is not identified, said “there were at least half a dozen victims,” the state police report said, and “other staff members [at the same treatment facility] were working with victims as well.”

Carlson helped found and was president of Penobscot Community Health Care, leading the charge to provide those less fortunate with health care and dental services. He also was a founder of Hope House, a Bangor shelter for those with drug and alcohol addiction.

He “had full access” at the therapist’s treatment center, and after Carlson took part in a staff meeting one day, “administration told Bob that he was no longer welcome at the facility,” the report said. No dates are given to indicate when this happened.

The therapist “advised that monetary control or influence was part of Bob’s control over some of the victims” and “that there was a grooming process [that] occurred with the victims.”

Carlson was a longtime church leader in Orrington who had served as chaplain for the Bangor and Brewer police and fire departments, the Penobscot County Jail and Husson College, now Husson University.

Former Husson University President William Beardsley, who is now commissioner of the Maine Department of Conservation, told detectives that he got two calls regarding Carlson. The first call was in 2005 from a minister friend in Vermont who said “Bob Carlson was not who he appeared to be” and warned Beardsley to keep an eye on the volunteer chaplain, who at the time worked with the Husson football team.

“Commissioner Beardsley said his concern was Husson and he asked if anything had happened at the school,” the state police report said.

The caller said the information was second hand and that he only wanted the college “to be sensitized to the situation with Bob,” it stated.

After the Vermont call, Beardsley said “he was left with the impression that Bob Carlson may have homosexual tendencies.”

Beardsley got a second call about Carlson in 2007 or 2008 from someone who “reported that they had information that Bob had participated in a sexual relationship with someone years ago” and who demanded that Beardsley confront Carlson.

Beardsley told detectives that he questioned Carlson, who “reported that he had never done anything unlawful.” However, “shortly after that Bob submitted a written letter of resignation stating that he was busy with other projects … and that he was done at Husson,” the report said.

The Bangor Daily News learned that Husson was going to be included in the report and contacted Beardsley two weeks ago.

“To this day, I have absolutely no knowledge of Bob Carlson doing anything inappropriate or illegal at Husson University,” the former college president said July 19.

When asked if he ever got a call from anyone who reported child sexual abuse by Carlson off campus, he responded by saying, “I am sticking with my statement.”

The state police report said a source told detectives that “a previous official at Husson College knew about the abuse allegations” and that person said two students under the age of 18 were abused by Carlson.

Whether those students were interviewed by state police is not known, since the names of the victims were not released.

Beardsley, who in November declined to be interviewed by police, the investigation showed, agreed to speak with state police Sgt. Troy Gardner on July 11. At the end of the 25-minute interview, the former Husson president “reported that based on one of the phone calls he was left with the impression that Bob had a sexual relationship with a seminary student in Massachusetts.”

Again, there are no time elements to say when Beardsley believes that happened or if the seminary student was interviewed.

The first person to report concerns about Carlson’s behavior said he was ignored by his superiors. Former Penobscot County Sheriff Timothy Richardson has said he questioned Carlson’s actions in the 1970s after seeing Carlson in the control room at the Penobscot County Jail in the middle of the night with young boys, sometimes rubbing them all over, including their buttocks.

Richardson, who was a young part-time deputy, said he reported his concerns to two superiors, both of whom are now deceased. He said they were concerned but didn’t take it anywhere.

“They didn’t want to take it anywhere,” the former sheriff told the Bangor Daily News in November. “Back then they [religious leaders] were above suspicion of child abuse.”

More Penobscot County employees have come forward since the investigation began.

Ronnie Green, an investigator with the Penobscot County district attorney’s office who once was an employee of the Penobscot County Sheriff’s Office, told state police investigators on Jan. 19 he “did some soul searching” about reporting “incidents that he had seen in the past.”

Green said he also had concerns in the 1970s about Carlson bringing children into the dispatch center in the middle of the night and that he stopped by Carlson’s house once and found “there were a couple of kids staying at his house” and his wife was not living there.

Carlson also asked Penobscot County Detective Tim Jameson, with Detective Rick Canarr in the room, “for some child pornography videos so that he could do some research,” Green said.

“Carlson was not permitted to view the images” and “this request was rather upsetting to Det. Jameson and Det. Canarr,” the state police report said.

Because Carlson is dead and there is no one to charge in this case, his home computer was not taken as evidence, Coleman said.

“His decision to end his own life stopped our effort for prosecution,” the lieutenant said. “At the time of his death, the focus of the interviews shifted.”

The focus shifted to providing a place for victims to have a voice, Coleman said.

Former Bangor police Officer Bob Welch, who now works for the University of Maine Police Department, told investigators that in 2004 and 2005 he “started noticing Bob Carlson’s vehicle parking in the dark areas of the parking lot” near his home.

“Then one time when Carlson was leaving the parking lot, Welch observed a young child with him,” the state police report said.

Welch contacted Bangor police Lt. Tim Reid “and they discussed putting up surveillance cameras in the area” but later changed their minds because “Carlson always parked in the darkest areas and they felt that because of this they would not be able to get any usable pictures. After the 8- or 9-month-period Carlson stopped using the parking lot.”

The middle half of the interview with Welch was removed from the released report, but it ends with Welch reporting “that within the last few years Carlson has been hanging out on Valley Avenue in Bangor near the Federal Building at night. This is a known hangout for the gay community.”

Carlson apparently had a secret life hidden from most of the people who knew his public face, including Penobscot County Sheriff Glenn Ross, a longtime friend and former co-worker at the county jail.

The day before Carlson committed suicide, Ross told him he was the subject of a state police investigation involving child sex abuse allegations. Ross stressed Wednesday that he felt compelled to tell Carlson about the investigation because Carlson was on the Penobscot County Jail’s board of visitors and the sheriff wanted to limit his access to the jail.

“My contact with Bob was not about advance notice. My contact with Bob was for one reason: to restrict his access to the jail,” Ross said. “I did the right thing for the right reason.”

Because of their three-decades-long friendship, many have asked Ross if he had any suspicions about Carlson.

“I can unequivocally say I did not know or witness any abuse,” the sheriff said. “I never in my entire career had any inclination of any of this occurring. I was stunned by it. It’s unfortunate and it’s sad.”

He said he’s glad the difficult case is now closed and added he hopes the victims will have the opportunity to heal.

“My heart goes out to them and their families [for] what they’ve been going through for years,” Ross said. “They have my sympathy.”

Carlson was an administrator at the Penobscot County Jail in the 1970s and later became its chaplain, a role he held for 32 years, until two years before his death.

State police detectives did not get a chance to speak with Carlson, 68, before his death.

Family members of the Orrington boy — who is now a 52 and living in Bangor — say Carlson befriended him four decades ago and they had an ongoing sexual relationship.

“My brother came clean to the family” a couple of years ago, the victim’s sister said.

She and other family members were interviewed by a state police detective the day after the investigation started and have been waiting for the results.

Another sister said Wednesday that she is relieved that the truth is out. When Carlson first died and she read it in the paper, she said she wanted to scribble “pedophile” all over the news article.

Her brother, who was severely distraught after Carlson committed suicide, is now in a better frame of mind, she said.

“He’s working on himself and he’s doing good,” she said. “There is no backwards now. Carlson can’t come back now and destroy him.”

In the hours before Carlson took his own life, he met up with the Bangor man who was the focal point of the child sex abuse investigation, according to the Waldo County Sheriff’s Office report into Carlson’s suicide.

The man was an 11-year-old boy when Carlson entered his life and began sexually abusing him, family members said. The Bangor Daily News is not identifying the man because he is a victim.

The last call made on Carlson’s cellphone was to the man, who told police they met for about 30 minutes at his Bangor residence around 12:30 a.m. Nov. 13.

“We believe he was the last one to see him” alive, Waldo County Chief Deputy Jeff Trafton said in January shortly after his department’s report into Carlson’s suicide was completed.

Carlson’s company car was found — running and with the radio on — in the middle of the Penobscot Narrows Bridge by a Bucksport couple around 3:55 a.m., the Waldo County report states.

“Amazing Grace” was playing on the radio and a neatly folded clerical robe was found in the back seat, the report says.

Waldo County sheriff’s detectives met with the Bangor man on Dec. 1. He prefaced the interview by saying he was under the influence of the synthetic drug bath salts when he met with Carlson on Nov. 13, Trafton said.

The Waldo County Sheriff’s Department looked into the circumstances of Carlson’s death and Maine State Police investigated the sex abuse allegations.

The state police investigation is now closed, Coleman said.

“At this point it’s closed, but if we had a victim who came forward and wanted their story documented, [it could be reopened],” he said. “We’re available to listen.”

The Bangor victim’s family said that over the years Carlson provided housing, transportation and money to their loved one.

“He groomed him and never let him go — all in the name of God,” one sister said.

“There never was a time, once Carlson was in his life, that he let him go,” she added. “Births, deaths, reunions, birthday parties, Christmas, funerals, hospital visits — he would show up, if not with my brother, within 15 minutes” of his arrival.

When Carlson first befriended the family and began abusing her brother, there was no discussion about calling police, she said.

“We were poor and it was scary,” she said. “I remember thinking we had to be good or the state would break us up. Plus, like anyone would have listened. People have seen things and thought it was wrong and they had positions of power and they didn’t do anything.”

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    1. Neither can I.  It is absolutely sick.  I would expect that Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, John Baldacci and Joe Baldacci along with Shawn Yardley and Sister Norberta all apologize to the public for stating what a great man he was and boasting about how long they had known him.  Many people had no clue what this man was.  Perhaps if people were more familiar with the Bible, this wolf in sheep’s clothing could have been called out years ago.  He was a manipulator and chose his victims carefully.  He would try to discredit anyone who spoke out against him.  

      1. I knew he was a fraud.

        Any clergyman who supports abortion and gay rights speaks with the voice of the Devil.

          1. I knew Carlson was evil, just as any clergyman who supports abortion and the Satanic ritual known as “gay marriage” is spreading evil — in the sense that the dictionary definition of the word “evil” is “tending to spread harm.”

          2. That sure is a wacky Christianity…and Christ never said a word about those things…It’s just the Church trying to retain its power over people….As for the Old Testament that is for Jewish folks…..The New Testament is for Christians….Just ask Lewis Black….LOL

          3. You speak falsely, not knowing the Bible.

            Jesus said; “Whoever causes one of these little ones to sin, it would be better that a millstone was hung around his neck and be cast into the heart of the sea.” 

            Now, did Jesus speak truly in the case of Bob Carlson?

          4. How about Romans 1:24-32?  Are you truly a Rev?  I guess you see no wrong in the evils that Carlson did?  If you heard him speak, you should have known he was not qualified to have the title of Rev.  Where is the religious community here?  They also have an obligation to identify a fraud.  There should be an apology from the people at WVOM for having Bob on the “God squad.”

          5. There should also be an apology by the LISTENERS of WVOM (and many, many, others, myself included), for blindly listening to this man, like the pathetic little sheep we were.

            I know I’m sorry.  I should have known better.

          6. Yeah, so, I’m pretty sure most people would agree that gay marriage and pedophilia are on completely different plains.  Sounds to me like you’re a wack job :)

  1. cp444 – You need to read a little history, child sexual abuse has be an issue not only in this country “recently” but the entire world for decades and decades led by the Catholic Church. Do a little reading and find out why Cardinal Law is in Rome now (as an appointment of Pope John Paul II)  now instead of being in a US prison…

      1. No, but he sure wanted people to think he was,  he wore a catholic collar and was happy to intentionally mislead people into thinking he was a catholic priest.

    1. Your absoulutely right. The Catholic Church wants to keep us focused on birth control and abortion while they sexually abuse our children. What a sham.

  2. Another Jerry Sandusky. How can these men live with themselves? Of course Carlson couldn’t, so he ended his life.

    1. Only because he knew he was done…..he’d still be walking and purping if the letter was never written.  Thank God the letter WAS written, and that God he did himself in, saved us a lot of tax ayers money….I would say RIP perv, but it wouldn’t be sincere, so ROT IN HELL PERVE !!!!!

  3. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.                                     – -Edmund Burke

  4. Please, can we all just put this behind us now?  It’s time to move forward now.

     We’ve all, myself included, had ample time and opportunity to drag Rev. Bob’s name and legacy through the mud. 

     There were more victims here than the sexually abused. Let it go and allow the victims to heal.

    1. “drag Rev. Bob’s name and legacy through the mud”?  
      His legacy is now known to be worth less than mud, and anybody that still thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

    2. Yea,
      I’ll hold up the rug while you sweep all the unpleasantness under it.
      This needs to be revisited so that it won’t happen again!

      1.  My concern is for the victims not his ruined legacy or reputation.

         It is all too easy to rant and rave over what could have or should have been done by someone last year, 5 years ago, maybe 10 years ago, but that can not be altered now.

         We have a great number of worthy individuals from his former congregation, the law enforcement community as well as many volunteer fire and rescue departments that he served as Chaplin that are also victims to a lesser degree in this nightmare. I fail to see how placing further humiliation and hurt on these people will serve the cause of justice.

         I know, because I’m one of them.

        1. No one is placing hurt and humiliation onto the primary and secondary victims like yourself.  One cannot be hurt by the truth.  ‘ye shall know the truth and it shall set you free”.  It may hurt a bit, but it will eventually help bring consciousness/awareness, which in turn can help prevent this from happening again in another, perhaps similar, setting.  Yes, it’s uncomfortable when we realize we’ve been duped, even painful to know we were manipulated and exploited, but like an ugly festering wound, it must heal from the inside out.   Over time, you will see this to be true.

          1.  The truth never set anyone free. It is only doubt which brings upon mental emancipation. Answers are dead ends. They are useless. Only questions have value.

        2. How many people close to him suspected his base criminal acts and did nothing?  Perhaps by holding this out to the light of day some people who have witnessed or suspected that another “trusted” person is this brand of sleaze will find the courage to come forward — before there are a half of dozen victims.

          1. It does make you wonder if anyone over at Penobscot Community Heath Center, knew about his behavior.  They did have a lot of coverups going on. 

          1.  I never remained silent.
             I voiced my concerns and uneasiness about this man repeatedly over the course of my employment, only to be ridiculed, harassed and ultimately forced from my job and my home town for speaking out! I was singled out and accused of all manner of untrue things that came close to destroying my personal life and my family. I was told repeatedly to let it go, many times on this very web site.
             Others may not have wanted to hear what I thought at the time and that is not my concern. I was right and they were wrong to blindly follow.
             You have no idea what you’re talking about.
             Had you bothered to read any of my previous posts on this subject, you would not make such a stupid comment.

          2. Dont you know that following blindly is what people do? The people here. The people who treated you unfairly. The world is filled with and run by blind people. Be thankful you have eyes, even though you might not like what you see, you will see, none the less. Peace and love.

          3. There should be more people like yo uin this world firecap66! You must have gone through so much. Good for you to take that stand and speak out.

          4.  Good for you for speaking up. You now been vindicated for speaking up about Bob Carlson. And yes, we pay a social price for speaking up, but at least we can sleep at night.

          5. Did I accuse you of remaining silent, no. Did you report it to the police, if you did and it was ignored who ignored it, did you go to the media? There is still time for you to let everybody know what you knew, go and talk to the State Police right now. It might be healthy. The primary victims are the ones Carlson molested, the only right thing to do is to ensure that this does not happen again, and it will happen againe if we just move on!. I’ll refrain from calling your comment stupid.

          6. Yes, I remember your comments.  Thank you for standing up to the creep!  I went through a similar situation and it cost me.  Shouldn’t be this way, but sadly is what often happens because those in power do not want the publicity.  They would rather put children in harms way and look away.  How do these people sleep at night?

        3. I am so sorry! My uncle was part of the sex abuse cases in the Boston area with the priests. This abuse and rape happened to him in the 60’s into the early to mid 70’s and he still has a very difficult time seeing and hearing it come up in the news occassionally.
          I think that reporting on “people” like Carlson will help the public keep an eye out on who their children are around – I guess what I am saying is making people aware and teach them that it really is ok to stand up and fight for these victims and TELL TELL TELL. Again, I am so sorry that you have to go through this; my thoughts are with you.

    3.  Your response is part of the problem. If we don’t bring these matters fully to light and hold those who knew and did nothing accountable, pedophiles prosper, just as Bob Carlson prospered. WAKE UP!

    4.  “Rev. Bob”……is he still good ol’ Rev. Bob to you after all this??? You do realize he falsified his credentials and was not a reverend at all, right?? And keep in mind that the word “reverend” derives from the word “revere,” which means to hold in high esteem….do you still do that with him? How about we call him “Bob the Slob” instead or “Bob the Nut Job”???

      1. He was a dishwasher.  I am not even sure he was qualified for that position.  Does anyone in Bangor check references?

    5. We need to keep this in the light so we, as a community, can prevent such a thing from occurring again.  We all need to examine how this happened, and it will be a painful process, but a necessary one.  I empathize with everyone’s pain and turmoil, but for the sake of our children, we need to make sure that the community better responds next time, and sooner!

    6. I disagree, “putting it behind” us, sorry for the pun, is allowing
      the behavior to continue by those still assaulting, attempting to
      assault, stalking teens around malls and other areas.
      Some time ago I knew a child molester had moved to
      got a job at a bottle redemption center. I called the owner he
      laughed in my ears and just blew me off. Short time later, this pervert
      a couple of friends were caught with underaged girls. This same
      person was working as a crossing guard on Essex St in Bangor
      at the Mary snow School. I called there. He was living next to a day care
      He didn’t care if it was boys or girls. He had been a ward of the state
      in foster care and the state didn’t want to do anything.
      The state wouldn’t help the kids with counciling but the mother saw
      him and beat the crap out of him and the state arrested her.
      So the problem is people won’t help victims, they just enable
      bad people to keep doing bad

    7.  I’m not even going to comment on this new article. My feelings of pain go out to the Carlson family, especially wife. We don’t know if she knew or not that doesn’t matter. What matters is this is a woman that who hopefully is trying to move on. If we could all put this ugliness to the side for a moment, and put yourself in her shoes. Imagine, IF YOU DID NOT KNOW what was going on with your husband, the man you have been living with for so many years, come to find out the life that you have been living is a lie, teared apart, only to be play out in the media. I do not even know the Mrs. Carlson, I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting her, but my thoughts and prayers are with her, especially when this is once again in the media.

      1. Perhaps you could put Mrs. carlson’s feelings aside and give some thought and prayer to the victims of her husbands abuse!  People have fnally had to admit this man was a monster but now we are supposed to worry about how his family feels, he should have done that! And it would matter if she knew or not, but I will be polite and not go down that road

      2. I find it almost impossible to believe that she didn’t have some idea. My thoughts are with the victim. Carlson shouldn’t have been such a coward and left his wife to pick up the pieces of his chaos. That’s on him

      3. Ernieboy, boy oh boy, she does not have to read the article or comments.  That is her choice.

    1. Agreed.  He was self proclaimed in a lot of things that he wasn’t. I’m quite certain he was never a cop, he was a jail administrator who liked to try to stretch his roll with law enforcement.  I asked the Bangor guys about him one time and they very clearly stated they wanted nothing to do with him.  One detective spoke of wanting to be the one who finally had enough evidence to lock lock Carlson up because he was a “pervert.”  

      The paper has done some decent follow up on his education or lack there of.  Those were clearly the tip of the iceberg

    2. Whether he was given this title of authority or gave it to himself, it is EXTREMELY relevant to the story. Proof that even those we hold in the highest esteem should be looked at closely if things don’t seem right. 

  5. If they knew and didn’t come forward, they should be charged with crimes as well. The “therapist” has a duty to warn under the federal regulations, and has no choice in the matter, it is the law. Peoplelike Carlson are why I never darken the doorway of organized religon. 

  6. “The former president of Husson University, a Penobscot County sheriff’s deputy, a Bangor Police officer and a therapist who treated some of Carlson’s victims also were interviewed. They said they had either received information about or witnessed Carlson engage in criminal or sexual behavior over the last four decades.”So all of these esteemed members of our community either had received information that Carlson was committing crimes or engaging in sexual behavior with children and they did nothing about it? Really? The longer this goes on the more it is starting to sound like Penn State. If as this article implies there were people who knew what Carlson was doing and did not step forward and notify the appropriate authorities then they should be charged. They should also be named. If the Sheriff of Penobscot County knew about Carlson and did nothing then he should be stripped of his office and arrested. We all complained about the good old boy network at Penn State that allowed Sandusky to abuse little children. Did we have the same thing happening here in Penobscot County Maine? Come on Bangor Daily News if ever there was a story that needed looking into by journalist it is this one. You have a duty to your readership, sponsors and community to get to the bottom of this horrible matter.

    1. Yes, continued investigative reporting is needed.  We deserve the truth to prevent other perverts from preying on our children.

        1. Bravo to adult victims who have the courage to come forward indeed! There should be a Bangor Daily News and TV station news report on those Pastors too. Whether it be clergy sexual abuse of children or adults it is abuse of power and must be brought out into the light of day. In 21 states it is illegal for pastors to sexually abuse adults, it should be in Maine and every other state as well. Check out http://www.thehopeofsurvivors.org regarding clergy sexual abuse of adults.

      1.  Perverts have been preying on children for years!! A good part of the numbers come from religious parties, as we are all aware of—This one is no longer here, and proved his guilt by taking himself out of the picture.—The people that know of this happening to children, and say nothing, are every bit as guilty as the pervert committing the crime!

      2. Investigative reporting is a thing of the past.  The people doing the reporting are all glitz and are reporting what some one has told them to.  Where I live in Maine is one scandal after another and nothing ever comes of it, just ask Ayla Reynolds mother.

      3. exactly.  I believe more people are involved in this whole sick mess and many are “influencial” people.  They are being protected and this needs to stop.

          1. Well, I have always found Ross a somewhat  flagrant with possible homosexual characteristics.  Just saying.

    2.  Isn’t a therapist/counselor/social worker, etc. BOUND BY LAW to report sexual abuse to authorities????

      1. Yes they are. So aren’t police officers and educators and social workers as well as medical professionals.

        1. Absolutely…Yes, indeed…That law has been around for many years….The problem as always is that folks are so afraid to get involved…Why?

        2.  and it is a “no fault” law so that anyone that reports and the suspicion turns out to be unwarranted, the accused cannot sue anyone that reported.  There should be no fear.

          1. I will tell you one reason why.  When working for a living and your job is in jeopardy because carlson has friends in high places, you turn and run the other way.  Is that a right thing to do?  No, its not, but some of you may want to bring the bacon to your family or starve and be ridiculed by those in high places and never get work ever again.  It is a possibility that there are those out there in high places that were there then and still loom large in the Bangor surrounding areas, living large and laughing at us who are on the bottom of the food chain.

      2.  Yes, I was both a teacher and a clinical counselor. In both of those positions, in Maine, I was MANDATED to report reasonable suspicion of child abuse. Yet, this therapist claims to have treated several of Carlson’s victims, and did not report to DHHS and/or police? Grounds for legal action and action by professional board as well.

        1. If you see a psychotherapist when you are an adult, and disclose that you were abused while a minor, your therapist will very llkely discuss with you the possibility of reporting the abuse to DHHS. He or she would help you decide how and when to do this, and see you through the process as one aspect of your healing. YOU choose whether or not to do this.

          The therapist will not report your experience to DHHS on his/her own, without your permission. That is NOT required by law, as it would violate your confidentiality. Mandated reporting applies only to abuse that is happening to minors, disabled adults, and the elderly.

          Many people who were abused continue to fear the abuser, even decades later. What adult would seek counseling if their most private information would automatically be turned over to the state?

          The purpose of your psychotherapy is to help you heal. It is not to ensure public safety.

      3. They’re mandated reporters of abuse that is currently happening to children, disabled adults, and the elderly.

        If you, as an adult, share with a therapist (etc) that you were abused during childhood, they will encourage you to report the abuse, but they certainly will not force you to report it, and they will not report it against your wishes (which would violate your confidentiality).

        1. This is all true, but if the therapist knew that the perpetrator continues to have easy access to children, there are still reports that could be made in an effort to protect future victims.  It would not have to identify the client.  Maybe this happened and it didn’t result in any action, who knows.

      4.  That was my first thought.  Coming from a social work background, I know that if someone disclosed something and I even had a SUSPICION of abuse, I was required to report this.  The therapist should no longer have a license to practice.  Unless she can document that she did make reports to DHHS, but they were not investigated. 

      5. If the client is still underage, yes.  But if you come to a therapist either 1) as an adult who was abused by Carlson when a child or 2) as an adult who was abused by ‘pastor’ Carlson as an adult (it is NEVER consensual when a person is in position of power), they are not required to report the perpetrator. In the case of scenario #2, it is not a crime in the state of Maine when clergy abuse adults, although it is for misconducting therapists and other professional helpers. Clergy are not included in that statute.   It makes me wonder if his victims were adults….

        1. “it is not a crime in the state of Maine when clergy abuse adults,
          although it is for misconducting therapists and other professional
          helpers. Clergy are not included in that statute.”  How ironic….and they are among the most prevalent of perpetrators. One more thing that religion gets away with….They are exempt from so many things the rest of us answer to and they abuse it at every turn.

      6. A couple of things need to happen right away:

        1.  The paper needs to immediately stop referring to this guy as Rev. Carlson.  He was a fraud and making that reference is disrespectful to people who actually went through the bother of real education. And, as long as it continues, it suggests to me that the owners or operators or publishers of the BDN are not objective. The guy lied about his credentials so let’s stop using them.

        2.  Sheriff Ross needs to step down.  He abused his authority when he tipped off his friend. His most recent explanation of his behavior, which is different from the last explanation, is not good enough. Having just read the full report, I also believe that Beardsley needs to be investigated.

        3.  The BDN needs to do some deep reporting and find out why mandated reporters didn’t turn this guy in.  Without accountability, Bangor’s failure to protect it’s kids from this guy is as bad as Penn States.

        1.  Sheriff does not need to step down. He should be arrested for “Hindering a government investigation”. If you or I meddled in an investigation of any type we would be arrested.

          1. I completely agree.  If He was involved in this, what other things was he involved covering up.  It’s time that Maine made an example of this situation and prove to the rest of the nation that we are not about to stand for it.

          2. I just read the whole report. The Sheriff’s behavior with regard to this incident was, in my opinion, totally inappropriate. It’s not possible for the Sheriff to be as naiive as he would have us believe.

        2. Dunno about #2.  Sheriff Ross may have saved us all some money.  He told Carlson about the investigation and then Carlson killed himself.  Seems like society came out ahead on that one.  

          Just bummed to see tax dollars being wasted on the follow up investigation.   The guy is a dead kiddie toucher.  Good riddance.  Leave it at that.  

          1. Carlson took MANY with him already.  How many people put their faith in him as a minister, opened up to him as a member of clergy about their innermost feelings and problems.  How many children has this man ruined?  I had my own run in with him after my brother’s death in 1987 and honestly, this explains a lot to me, not only about him, but also about some of the youth he was protecting from prosecution.

          2.  I have a good friend who was counseled by Carlson after her husband’s death. she said he was such a help to her. This doesn’t excuse his behavior.  It is a shame that he did such horrific things as he destroyed lives. I just wished he hadn’t abused children as he did do some great things but understandably they will be overshadowed by the horrific things he did.

          3. No! The link to the full report won’t open for me but I’ll be surprised if other people didn’t know about this and kept quiet.  We have to stop this.  We have to make it NOT OK to look the other way.

          4. Another one that wears  sheeps clothing. Preys one the innocent. Then takes the easy way out.

          5. And they should all be fired ! They looked the other way and that folks just makes me sick.

        3. Mandated reporters don’t report on each other in this state…. they only report on their CLIENTS….as a victim of psychiatric abuse perpetrated in the Bangor area and reported to many mandated reporters, take it from me…..they cover up for each other…. even report to each other what you are complaining about….so medical files can be fixed and falsified to cover it better….they even have cronies in state offices to help them…..it is a totally corrupt system and it will never change….makes you sick because there are no civil rights in Maine for anyone at a disadvantage…..Mandated reporters….what a joke.

          1. Actually you are wrong.  Any licensed professional in Maine must adhere to a code of ethics that requires them to report concerns about colleagues.  If they fail to do that, then their licensing board has the authority to investigate, and if warranted, remove their license.

          2.  Well that may be the law but if you have people you know in state positions…..or people you are married to  who once held a position in a state agency that should have investigated, then you are in the clear….in my case the doctor who perpetrated the abuse was married to one such person….my records were falsified and he pulled lots of strings for his wife….meanwhile my whole life fell apart….doesn’t hurt either when other agencies are involved as the catalyst that started the whole episode….no one wants to be in the paper….no one wants civil rights violations on their records…no one wants to lose their chance to become a level one hospital of Homeland Security…..think of all the money they would lose….not to mention Medicare and Medicaid funds….it was just easier to let them do what they did and leave me to founder….after all I am just a poor, mentally ill (major depressive disorder and PTSD) woman with no rights whatsoever…… no use to society so no value…..  thing was that before the episodes (note the plural) I was a college student with a 3.58 gpa….but it is a long story with too many twists and turns to recount here….besides that the PTSD from it causes me to recount it in a disjointed way….let it suffice that I still suffer to this day and it has been ten and eight years respectively….my only solace is that karma gets everyone….and you shouldn’t be so naive to believe that our government works the way it is set up to….it is all an illusion and those in power are the only ones it works for…..

          3.  Nope….brings me to tears to think of all those  I contacted in an effort to get justice….it is still all so fresh in my soul….don’t think I will ever be able to put it behind me…..so many worked together to keep it quiet….so much betrayal I will never feel safe in this world again…..

        4. I agree, especially with regard to Ross. I don’t think his story initially was that he was “trying to limit access” to the jail. He was tipping off his friend of many years. Maybe he really thought the allegations were false or maybe birds of a feather flock together. Regardless he abused his position by warning off Carlson. Not to mention Carlson taking the coward’s way out. Too bad his victims won’t get the chance to confront him. And he probably screwed them up so bad they’re afraid to even die thinking they will see the sicko again! When will people start to believe the victims?!

          1. Either way it doesn’t matter – a person’s motivation to commit a misdeed (crime?), doesn’t make the misdeed OK.  It was totally inappropriate for him to share privileged information with his friend.

        5. What about Beardsley and the counselors at Husson?  They knew a lot and Beardsley intentionally kept it from the press.  Blatantly hiding Carlson’s actions.  Now he is a Commissioner!  He needs to step down as well.  Blood on his hands letting the abuser continue his vile acts.

      7. They are required to report to authorities if the victim is under 18 or if the person named as the abuser has access to other young people who they could be abusing. Technically, if the victims were over 18, the professionals weren’t bound by mandating reporting laws (although clearly Carlson was still hanging out with young people soo… maybe they should have)

      8. I guess its according to who or what your name is to be bound by law?? I grew up in Orrington and Carlson fooled everybody. Everybody looked up to him as Rev. Carlson in the greater Bangor area. We all thought of him as the model of faith. But no one knew the other side of  him. He was a sick, perverted and skinner whatever you want to call him. He did my dad’s funeral and if we ever had a clue what the real Bob was all about it never would have happened. Bangor Daily News he is dead and its time this dies and let the healing begin. I am really upset to think this sick man did my dad funeral. I hope he burns with devil for what he has put this area throw.

        1. He did my brother’s as well and allowed the two people that could have saved my brother’s life to come in and say good-bye which we strictly ordered him NOT to…I too, hope he burns in hell for eternity.

        2. Letting it die with him is not the answer. We need to learn, as a community, from what he did. He fooled too many people to let it die.

          1. I would think he is in hell. So its not a easy ride for him. Its just disturbing when you see his face in the paper. I hear you when you said letting this is not the answer.

        3. How could you not been concerned with the “happy slap game” and that he only gave attention boys and not girls?  People trust your gut feelings and look deeper into those concerns.

        4. He didn’t fool everyone in Orrington. I always thought he was up to no good. Just didn’t know how bad he really was. He did my Dad’s funeral, too. I get ill just thinking of it. My Dad is probably spinning in his grave. He didn’t like people that abused kids in any way, shape or form. He would have kicked Carlson’s arse from Hell and back for doing these dispicable things.

      9. But the flipside is no therapist can reveal any information about their client due to the confidentiality of their relationship.  I think in so many cases that’s crap and that more people are harmed by the clause than helped.  The others are MANDATED reporters.

    3. Indeed.  There is an opportunity to seek justice – and hopefully some healing – by learning from the Penn State case, in short order.  Glenn Ross is comparable to Joe Paterno, if not worse – in that he knew about the abuse – and probably other allegations – but didn’t take it any further. Worse, he is an elected official – unlike Paterno – and has a moral, ethical and legal responsibility to the public to protect the innocent from harm.  
      It is time someone in authority ask for his resignation. However, it may be too late to prevent lawsuits that no doubt will surface from this no-surprise-update on a very tragic case.   I agree with 4mermainer that the BDN has a duty to not only do some proficient and fair reporting on this case, they must have the courage to draw upon the experts in the field of clergy misconduct/ abuse of power with both adults and children and figure out how to educate the public that this remains a very serious issue for many denominations and communities. And because clergy tend to extend their lives into the civic sector of our communities, their misconduct can sometimes also, creating a web so tight their victims – both direct and indirect (parishioners, etc) dare not come forward because of the risk of intense shame and guilt that the perp would impose on them.

      1.  That’s when it’s too bad the BDN doesn’t have any competition in this part of the state. If they did, they would have no option but to further investigate!!!

      2. Since the report doesn’t identify the Penobscot County Deputy Sheriff we don’t know if it was Glen Ross.

        Have you forgotten the former Sheriff that was all over the media saying “I saw…I knew” but only reported it to the then Sheriff and DA both of whom are now deceased. Could it be “young” Penobscot County Deputy Sheriff Tim Richardson that the report is referring to?

        1. how about you just focus on the current sheriff who tipped him off and gave him the opportunity to  run, or in this case jump.  Have you forgotten how even you were fooled and defended him against my comments?

          1. How about you let me focus on what I want to focus on?

            Have you read the redacted MSP report yet? I have and I think you would find it very interesting.

            See there is more than enough blame to go around. The report mentions several current and former Bangor Officers and Penobscot County Deputies and Sheriffs.

            See if you want to blame a person for allowing the abuse to continue we should blame ALL those that suspected but did nothing for any number of reason. i.e. The parking lot was to “dark” for surveillance cameras. Don’t you think that is a bit odd?

            So if I wish to mention former Sheriff Tim Richardson I will mention former Sheriff Richardson every day of the week and twice on Sunday if I so desire.

            Now, I have admitted I was fooled by Bob Carlson more than once. You seemed to have been fooled too.

          2. I was never fooled by Carlson.

            Any clergyman who advocates homosexual marriage and abortion is a fraud. 

          3. OK so you weren’t “fooled” by Carlson. Good for you SonofBangor.

            If you weren’t “fooled”, what did you do to stop him?

          4. Unlike Bangor’s liberal establishment, I had no knowledge of his activities.

            Unlike you personally, I knew him to be a religious fraud, and I would never have allowed him to darken my door.

            Of course, you too, had no knowledge of his activities.

          5. But liberals want to be lied to, and they want to believe the lies.

            That is the whole point. 

            Until your heart is regenerated by Christ, this remains a mystery.

          6. You see, Reverend Bob Carlson never was a Christian. 

            It is unlikely he even believed in God.

            But he had the power of Satan to deceive the masses. 

          7. Bob Carlson was an evil, wicked man. 

            “I have seen the wicked man in positions of great power, and he flourished as a green bay tree. But he passed away, and yea, though I have sought him, he is nowhere to be found.” (Psalm 37)

            God sent Bob Carlson to his doom, because he was representing the Bible as endorsing abortion and homosexuality.

            Unless Reverend Carlson  repented in those final seconds before he hit the water, his soul is in Hell suffering the torments of the damned.

            You all believed Bob Carlson’s lies, but you won’t believe one line of God’s word, the Bible.

          8. No.  People who sexually abuse love the game.  They thrive on it.  His life got miserable for one day when he knew he was going down….and that he did on bath salts the report says.

          9. So do you feel anything for his victims Son….anything? Or are you so absorbed in using this horrific crime that you have lost sight of the victims?

          10. I believe the guilty party here was Bob Carlson, and those who covered up his crimes.

            If our leaders had listened to and obeyed God’s word as revealed in the Bible, there would have been no victims. 

            No clergyman who advocates abortion or homosexual marriage can be trusted. 

            And since I have not spoken to you disparagingly or impolitely, please do me the courtesy of not referring to me as son. 

          11. Let me address you last sentence first Son….you choose your monicker. If I were going to be disrespectful I would use the small case “s” and not the upper case “S”.

            Still not one word for the victims…continue to beat the drum for political advantage and ignore the victims. And then to top if all off you try to make yourself the victim. Can you sink any lower Son?

          12. It goes without saying that everyone is sorry for the victims.

            That is why so many fight the homosexual rights movement. 

            Since that is understood, perhaps we can return to the central question.

            Why could society be deceived by a man like Carlson? 

          13. Wow finally you say something about the victims. How long did that take?

            “Why could society be deceived by a man like Carlson? ”

            Why can any conman deceive society? They come in and say the right thing. Do the right things. And before you know it they have gained the trust of one or two people and then three or four and it grows from there.

          14. Jesus said, “You err, not knowing the scriptures.”

            Again, any “reverend” who support abortions, the murder of the unborn, homosexual marriage (a Satanic ritual) or women in clergy (paganism) would never be allowed to darken my door.

            It is you who were blind to the evil represented by Bob Carlson, because you have hardened your heart to God’s word.

            I will pray for you. 

          15.  Dear Son-you are too much. You are against women in clergy which you say is paganism. Where would many churches be today without women in the clergy? Did you know Paganism is a religion, one of their tenants is respect  for all nature. Nature- something God created. You probably think  being respectful of nature is a bad also.

          16.  For one thing he did a lot of good things, his ministry helped people. I attended a couple of funerals he did and he was a great speaker & didn’t use notes . He helped many poor people get medical care. he worked hard and helped others but sadly had a side that ruined lives.

          17. There seems to be many clergy that are against abortion and homosexuallity that can also NOT be trusted.

          18.  The Bible has many contradictions and  different books in the Bible were written by different people. In the beginning scribes made copies by hand of the Bible. Then the Bible was translated into different languages. when the scribes made copies if they omitted an upside down V over a letter, the entire meaning was changed. When doing translations the original meaning certainly got changed also. Not saying any of this was done intentionally, it is what it is. The Bible is a history book with a thread of psychic phenomena running through it but is not the definite & absolute word of God.

          19. I do not hold a position of authority and power.  

            Isn’t that a question you should be asking of the police, and the other members of the liberal establishment?

            Could it be they were afraid of publicly criticizing a homosexual? 

          20. “I do not hold a position of authority and power.”And that has what to do with the discussion?~~~~~”Isn’t that a question you should be asking of the police, and the other members of the liberal establishment?”When has Commissioner Beardsley been a member of the “liberal establishment”? Seems to me that political affiliation has nothing to do with this.~~~~~”Could it be they were afraid of publicly criticizing a homosexual? “Don’t know. But I do know this, if you want to use labels you should use the right ones. Carlson was a pedophile and that is not in dispute. He was a married (40+ years) so the only label that might apply would be bi-sexual.

          21. How preposterous!

            Carlson was not a homosexual?

            He is precisely the type of homosexual we have been warning you about.

            Molesting boys has been part of homosexuality from the time of Socrates to the time of NAMBLA.

            The depths of deception liberals will resort to to defend homosexuals is almost amusing. 

          22. Comments such as “Bob Carlson was not a homosexual” should be taken as object proof that liberals have lost their mind on the issue of homosexuality.

            Carlson  followed the typical pattern of homosexuals, including his marriage.

            If he wasn’t a homosexual, who was he, Clark Gable? 

          23. Heterosexuals have been engaging in sexual abuse with children since the dawn of time. That’s why it called pedophilia, because it is adults having sex with children.

            As an adult when you engage in a sexual relationship with a consenting adult of the opposite sex it is considered a heterosexual relationship.

            As an adult when you engage in a sexual relationship with a consenting
            adult of the same sex it is considered a homosexual relationship.

            As an adult when you engage in a sexual relationship with a consenting
            adult of either sex it is considered a bi-sexual relationship.

            See the difference.

          24. Sure…ha,ha…

            Bob Carlson wasn’t a homosexual because “only pedophiles molest boys, and not homosexuals.”

            He actually was John Wayne. 

          25. It is not an established, organized movement among heterosexuals.

            It is an established, organized part of the homosexual subculture, NAMBLA, for example, the age of Socrates for another.  

            And since you continue to refer to me in a disparaging fashion, I regret that I must end this discussion.

            It is perhaps pointless to debate someone who refuses even to acknowledge that Carlson was a homosexual. 

            It is this precisely this sort of willful ignorance which enabled a man like Carlson to deceive the public. 

          26. “It is not an established, organized movement among heterosexuals.

            It is an established, organized part of the homosexual subculture, NAMBLA, for example, the age of Socrates for another.”

            There is not one group of professionals, i.e. the APA, etc…that agrees with you Son(ofBangor). Not one that doesn’t have a preconceived agenda or stated position.

            Homosexuals are no more likely to engage in pedophile than a heterosexual. But then again, you believe everything sexual is a choice. Except being heterosexual…that’s never a choice is it Son(ofBangor)?
            ~~~~~
            “And since you continue to refer to me in a disparaging fashion, I regret that I must end this discussion.”

            Now I explained this to you last night and I will again. You selected your screen-name, SonofBangor. If I wanted to insult you I would type Son this way “son” but I don’t do I Son. I shortened SonofBangor down to Son. Live with it.
            ~~~~~
            “It is perhaps pointless to debate someone who refuses even to acknowledge that Carlson was a homosexual.

            It is perhaps pointless to debate someone who refuses even to acknowledge that Carlson was first and foremost a pedophile. What his “sexuality” was is pretty pointless when you realize he was a predator of children. His VICTIMS were children. I really do not care what his underlying sexuality was when he sexually abused children. IMHO he tore up his “human card” when he started abusing children.
            ~~~~~
            “It is this precisely this sort of willful ignorance which enabled a man like Carlson to deceive the public.”

            Yeah OK Son. He fooled everyone except you. You knew everything about Carlson. Face it Son…he fooled you to because you did NOTHING to stop him. You said in another post that you didn’t have the power or position to do something about it. Do you understand that if you did know something, you had the power to do something. YOU HAD THE POWER SON TO END CARLSON’S PEDOPHILIA…That is if you really weren’t fooled like everyone else.

          27. I knew Carlson was evil because of his endorsement of murder and homosexuality.

            You did not. 

            The responsibility lies with the liberal establishment in Bangor. 

          28. And what did you do with that “knowledge” Son?

            Nothing. Not one thing. If you know someone is “evil” you have a responsibility to stop that evil by any legal means possible. You choose not to do that. Why? Why did you allow the “evil” you say you knew to continue?

          29. Well you force me to say it.

            I read Jude 1:7 to him aloud on Friday.

            On Sunday, he jumped off the bridge.

            What did you do to stop him?

          30. I suspect that Carlson’s decision to take the big plunge had more to do with the fact that his world was about to come crashing down around him then you reading a single verse from the Bible to him.

            Are we to assume that you spoke with the MSP about your conversation with Carlson? I ask because standard investigation in cases like this are to recreate the previous 2-3 days of movement and contacts.

            What did I do? Simple one word answer. Nothing. I had no suspicion and witnessed no questionable actions do what was I going to report?

          31. Ok, ok…Bob Carlson wasn’t a homosexual hanging around parking lots at night  and other places where homosexuals congregate  in Bangor.

            He was a lady’s man like Tom Cruz or a maybe a tough guy like Jimmy Cagney or John Wayne. 

          32. According to the MSP report I read he was seen by Bangor PD in the company of boys in dark parking lots.

            According to the MSP report he was seen at least once in an are of Bangor frequented by homosexuals but no mention was made (that I recall) that he was with anyone.

            According to the MSP report he arrived in the Steam Plant parking lot at the request of an adult male that was having some “difficulty” with UMaine PD.

            Did you read anywhere in the report where it said he was seen with an adult male in a dark parking lot? No, he was seen with young “boys” but never a male. Now if the Bangor PD decided to investigate why he was in a dark parking lot with young “boys” we actually may have stopped his pedophile behavior.

            Did you read anywhere in the report where it said he was seen on Valley Avenue (the area “frequented” by homosexual males) in the company of an adult male? No, I don’t think it stated that we was seen with anyone on Valley Avenue.

            And I think we can both agree that arriving in the Steam Plant parking lot to assist a “friend” in the presence of UMaine PD officers does not give rise to any suspicion of illegal or criminal behavior.

            So, was Carlson a homosexual male, a heterosexual male or a bi-sexual male? It doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things because being a homosexual, heterosexual or bi-sexual is not illegal.

            But being a PEDOPHILE is illegal.

          33. You, who knew Bob Carlson personally, did nothing,  and you ask me,  a member of the general public who never once met Bob Carlson, if I did anything to stop him?

            Neither of us had any knowledge of his activities.

            Then why sir, are you trying to shift responsibility onto me, a member of the general public who never once met Bob Carlson? 

          34. “You, who knew Bob Carlson personally, did nothing,  and you ask me,  a member of the general public who never once met Bob Carlson, if I did anything to stop him?”

            No Son I said I knew him professionally that is a distinction worth noting. You can work with someone side by side for years (which I did not do) and not “know” the person. In fact one of the PC Deputy Sheriffs stated to the MSP that Carlson didn’t talk about his background and he thought that was odd.

            You on the other hand have made assertions that you knew he was “evil” which lead to the questions I have asked of you. If you knew he was “evil” why didn’t you do something to stop him. That is a very legitimate question to ask.
            ~~~~~
            “Neither of us had any knowledge of his activities.”

            That is not what you said in other post. Some examples

            “It is you who were blind to the evil represented by Bob Carlson…”

            “I knew Carlson was evil….”
            ~~~~~
            “Then why sir, are you trying to shift responsibility onto me, a member of the general public who never once met Bob Carlson? ”

            So now you claim that you never “once met Bob Carlson”. Well if that is the case could you please explain the following post made by you:

            “Well you force me to say it.

            I read Jude 1:7 to him aloud on Friday.

            On Sunday, he jumped off the bridge.

            What did you do to stop him?”

          35. I have never met Bob Carlson.

            You have met Bob Carlson,  and you knew him professionally, but not personally as you say.

            You seemed to have missed the point that I knew him to be evil because he was a clergyman advocating abortion and homosexuality.  Did you not admit here that you were fooled by Bob Carlson? I was not. It’s a subtle distinction, so let me help you by clarifying it.You knew Carlson professionally, and thought he was a fine fellow. I never met Carlson, but knew he was evil.Therefore (try to stay with me) you were deceived as to his character, I was not. 

          36. If you “never met Bob Carlson” as you now claim, how did you “read Jude 1:7 to him aloud on Friday” before he took the final plunge?

          37. I knew Carlson was evil in the sense that any clergyman who advocates abortion or homosexuality is evil.

            What can I do except read them Jude 1:7?

          38. If you “never met Bob Carlson” as you now claim, how did you “read Jude
            1:7 to him aloud on Friday” before he took the final plunge?

          39. What does homosexual marriage or abortion have to do with being a pedophile? Pedophilia is a crime but my knowledge is neither homosexuality or abortion are a crime in the State of Maine. However, he was another clergyman hiding behind his religion to cover his perverted crimes.

          40.  I don’t understand why you say Any clergyman who advocates homosexual marriage  is a fraud. There are people who are homosexual because God made them that way just as he made me heterosexual. The homosexuals want the same things we all do. They want to be able to be open about the person they love and not be ashamed of it or fear being discriminated  against because they are gay.

          41. Abortion, which is murder, violates God’s law: “Thou shalt not kill.”

            How can a man be a man of God if he teaches people to violate this commandment? 

          42. You are the very reason most people do not go to church anymore.  Your biased and hatred rant gives people reason to sleep in Sunday rather than go to church.  You are not helping people to support your religious order.  What denomination are you from?

          43. Curious, given that most of the religious people who have been caught abusing children are Catholics, who oppose both homosexual marriage *and* abortion!

          1. I realize Sheriff Ross was identified in the report.

            The statement was based on this quote from the BDN article, “Also interviewed were the former president of Husson University, a Penobscot County sheriff’s DEPUTY (emphasis added) and detective, a Bangor police officer and a therapist who treated some of Carlson’s victims. They said they had either received information about or witnessed Carlson engage in
            criminal or inappropriate sexual behavior over the last four decades.”

            If you read the report you will discover that at least one Sheriff’s Deputy had questions and it wasn’t Ross or Richardson.

      3. With so many keeping Carlson’s perverted secrets hidden, We should wonder what perverted secrets they have been hiding.

      4.  I think Glenn was probably blinded by the love he had for his friend. It’s not right but an understandably & human  emotion. He has to live with the fact that Carlson may have  killed himself because of what Glenn told him.

      1. Ultimately it is up to Rick Warren the Publisher of the Bangor Daily News to decide how much effort the NEWS will put into investigating this matter. In my opinion anything less then a full fledged effort on the part of the NEWS will give credibility to those who claim it is nothing more then “a liberal rag”. I hope that is not the case, but time will tell.

        1. Well, if BDN did do further investigative reporting on this case, their ratings would go up and they would probably win a journalist award.  Who doesn’t want to protect children?

      2. HA which is why he was on the front page of the paper almost every day for weeks, maybe months after details started to emerge. Do you ever read this paper?

        1. Every single day. Not much in-depth in regards to the “Good Reverend”, he got a pass. Too many connections in high places. If this thing jumps off as it should, the Penn State debacle will pale in comparison. I would hope the BDN rises to the occasion. 

    4. “Come on Bangor Daily News if ever there was a story that needed looking into by journalist it is this one.” Perhaps I’m missing something, but doesn’t this story DO that?

      1.  No, this story did not look into anything.  It is just reporting what came out of the investigations 100 page report.  Some of the info in that report could be further investigated.

      2.  they don’t have any journalists at BDN…..just little robots who report what the they are told to…..

          1. how would you like me to prove it….show you my falsified medical records that paint me as a drug addict….thing is there were none of the drugs that they gave me in my system before I was admitted yet i was put on large doses of xanax, klonipin, haldol and METHADONE while I was in there….trust me when I tell you that I hardly remember the two weeks I was in that hellhole….I do remember the withdrawal I experienced once they let me go however….I thank God that I didn’t know what I was experiencing was withdrawal…it was awful but I chocked it up to menopause and lived with the horrible feelings and physical symptoms I had….I ended up in the hospital two more times that year…..they destroyed my life….by the way the Doctor’s husband works at PCHC……he is a psychiatrist too……

      3. This story brings up more questions than it answers, so…I’m gonna have to go ahead and say that they definitely should be looking in to it further.

        1. That’s good. But these comments indicated this story was not a story. They intimated this story did nothing and would have been better off printing nothing at all. I don’t agree with those comments. I believe the BDN did a great service to the community by printing this story. These other people do nothing but rag on the paper and do nothing constructive about the situation. Except, of course, tell us what a bad paper the BDN is, knowing full well the paper will never reply to these silly allegations.

    5.  glenn ross will do anything to save his job i had a relationship with him when he was a deputy and when thing come ahead and name him it was all push under the rug.so he will get away with this two..i was an inmate at the time . i was told that his wife works at city hall . and i wasnt the only one..they will always  stick together..cause they r always right…i even gave them a time about when it happened nothing was done……

      1.  You mean you had a romantic relationship with him while you were an inmate ? I’m not quite sure I understand your post.

      2. Cindy, could you please clarify?  Are you stating that, then Deputy Ross, sexually assaulted you?  If that is the case, then by all means.. please follow up, but if that is not what you meant, it would be very unfair to cast such suspicion.  I will be honest… I have known both him and his wife since I was a child and have never heard anything even close to this.  I do find it very difficult to believe, but that is irrelevant.
        If something did happen to you, you deserve to be heard and not ridiculed or questioned, but if that is not the case… your statement could be very misleading and unfairly hurtful.

    6.  I suggest that this report is given to a CBS, NBC, or ABC for investigative reporting.  They love these types of stories for their news magazine shows.  They will ask the tough questions.

      1. Bill O’Reily is a fearless protector of children.  HE would do an excellent job reporting on this story and he would be relentless!

        1. Problem is that O”Reilly has no credibility….Did you know that FOX news is banned in Canada? In Canada it is against the law to broadcast “lies and misleading news reports.”

          1. In 2003, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) rejected a Canadian Cable Telecommunications Association (CCTA) application to bring Fox News to Canada because Fox News U.S. and Global Television were planning to create Fox News Canada, a combination of U.S. and Canadian news. However in 2004, after a Fox U.S. executive said there were no plans to create the combined channel, the CRTC approved an application to bring Fox News to Canada.[80]
            Fox News Channel is currently offered by Access Communications, Bell TV, Cogeco, Eastlink, Manitoba Telecom Services, Rogers, SaskTel, Shaw Cable, Shaw Direct and Telus TV. A notable exception is Vidéotron, Canada’s third largest cable company, which has not added Fox News Channel to its lineup.

          2. Do you realize O’Reilly has the most watched cable news program on American television?  We live in America.  Canada does all kinds of things we don’t.  Just live there and try to get medical care.  You will need to come to EMMC to have radiation treatments, you will die waiting in Canada.  

          3.  My dad died in Bangor waiting for medical treatment for cancer in 1989 so don’t blame the Canadian Health Care system. We need more doctors and doctors who have a heart.

    7. What’s sick is that police now say it is a “closed case.” It was never opened or something would have been done. This report is just that — a follow-up report to a public suicide.

    8. “We were poor and it was scary,” she said. “I remember thinking we had to be good or the state would break us up. Plus, like anyone would have listened. People have seen things and thought it was wrong and they had positions of power and they didn’t do anything.” –it really sickens me that she was actually right as she and her brother lived this hell. Just as the point is made here, all these people with suspicians and concerns knew and not too unlike Penn State, did nothing.  A life has been ruined by the manipulation of this predator.  Can’t help but wonder what a could have been different for this victim and others if someone with authority that had suspicians had pursued this.  I hope for some healing to these victims and their families.

  7. These people who knew but did nothing should all be prosecuted and that includes Ross. I cannot believe the good ole boy crap that goes on. Makes you wonder what else they are hiding doesn’t it???

  8. I am not at all surprised that he had more victims, BUT a Police Officer and Deputy knew of this and did nothing?  They need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, they are suppose to protect us, not allow monsters to do these things and turn the other way… Absolutely disgusting.  I ask any of the witnesses who knew of this and did nothing, please follow in Carlsons foot steps and jump off a bridge

    1. I wonder why we are given Bill Beardsley’s name from Husson, but not the Bangor police officer’s name, deputy’s name or anyone elses who knew.

  9. Even though there is patient/therapist confidentiality, isn’t there some sort of clause that would allow the therapist to inform the authorities when at least “half a dozen” clients were all being treated due to abuse by the same perp??

    1. There is no confidentiality when it comes to abuse/neglect or homicidal or suicidal threats- therapists are mandated reporters- the therapist had an ethical/legal obligation to report the abuse to the appropriate people.  You can loose you license if you do not report abuse/neglect etc.  If this therapist knew about the abuse and did nothing then not only have they failed as a therapist they have failed to follow their ethical and legal obligations to protect their client from the likes of Carlson.

    2. Most therapists are mandated reporters. However, if the victim was victimized as an adult, they are not mandated to report because, while it’s a crime in 7 other states when clergy abuse adults, it is not a crime in Maine…yet. 

  10. ‘The therapist, who is not identified, said “that there were at least half a dozen victims,” the state police investigation states.’    Ummmmm therapists are MANDATED reporters- if this ‘therapist’ knew about children being abused and did not report the abuse they can and SHOULD loose their licence to practice.  Confidentiality goes out the window when someone reports abuse or is in imminent danger of harming themselves and/or others period.

        1. Pretty sure I know who it is.  I believe Bob was footing the bill, oh yeah, Bob, was the big advocate for free health care.  I am sure he handled the paperwork and the taxpayer footed the bill.  Remember Bob was running the largest free health care facility in the state.  I remember him promoting that as if it were something to be proud of.  

          1. Actually PCHC does a great deal of good not. You may not think it does but they provide a service that no one else wants to provide…health care to the uninsured and under insured.

          2. Bob Carlson did absolutely no good.  There should be a full investigation into PCHC and what Bob did there as well.  He profited from taking advantage of the downtrodden, he used them and took advantage of them.  How many more are there like him in Bangor?

    1. If it was an adult reporting childhood abuse, mandated reporting was not required. The therapist would encourage the victim to report the abuse, but would not violate his or her confidentiality by reporting it against the adult’s wishes.

      1. As a therapist I would be reporting any adult abuse to the DA’s office for them to investigate especially if I had any inkling that the abuser was still having contact with underage children.  I most certainly would leave my client’s name out of the report but I most assuredly would pass along the information to the DA.

        1.  Then you would be an untrustworthy therapist with no clients. If I came to talk with someone about my past and they went and betrayed me I would never go back. What do you think a DA can do with a report that has no reporter ? You can’t have a crime without an accuser. No one said this therapist didn’t drop an anonymous dime on Carson, just says the he personally had treated adults that stated Carlson victimized them.

          1. You clearly have no understanding how mandated reporting works.  I HAVE to give MY name not the clients name therefore I am the reporter and I can give the DA the person’s name  who may be of concern as an abuser.  Mandated reporting mandates that the reporter give their name other wise it would be called ‘if you feel like it reporting’ not the same thing . The authorities decide to investigate that person or not.  The client is completely out of it and is NOT required to do anything or speak with any authorities because the authorities have no idea who or if there even is an actual client.  I am in no way going to enable a possible pedophile to continue doing what it is they always do by not reporting them….if anyone out there actually thought there was only 1 victim try again…..it just doesn’t happen that way- there’s always more than 1 victim.  You say ‘you can’t have a crime without an accuser’ mandated reporting isn’t about defining whether a crime has taken place or not you are simply reporting information so that the appropriate authorities have the information to act upon.  If I did not report this I would be no different than all the other people who knew about this and did nothing which enabled more children to become victims…..

          2. I absolutely do know how it works…you are wrong. Besides that, reporting is one thing, getting the victim to make a formal statement is another. You do not have any way to move forward if you report what an ADULT victim of childhood abuse has said if they will not make a statement. You are a betrayer of trust and should ID yourself so people know never to come to you. I would sue you into oblivion if I came to you as an adult and you went around telling my business. People don’t wait years to talk about abuse just to have someone make it about what they should and shouldn’t do. You are wrong here. If you are referring to just this specific case you may have somewhat of a valid point, if many people came in as ADULTS and said he abused them as CHILDREN absolutely you can call and state that fact. In order for it to go any further, if and when it is investigated, the police will have to ask who the victims are eventually. The only thing you could do is try and talk your client into talking with the police or else there is nothing to investigate. At that point you will either be able to get them to do it or they will tell you thanks but no thanks. Then if you are lucky you can continue to help them.

            Added Edit : I also want to state unless we are talking about this case specifically this whole conversation is apples and oranges, Mandating reporting is necessary. When a person tells you that not only were they abused but they and you were sure that it is still happening to another child or they are in immediate danger. Then you absolutely will need to report it, that you are correct, in the end there still is no further investigation if no one will confirm accusations when asked. If that was so then anyone could accuse anyone , have them arrested for something you think they did or will do. Would Bob have done it again ? Yes. Does this article state the therapist did not report what he was told ?

  11. Why does BDN continue putting this perverted pedophile’s picture in the paper, we know what the creep looks like.  Just like Sendusky, his creepy face was everywhere.  BTW–when this creep met his maker  I wonder if he was forgiven, is there forgiveness for pedophiles, just wondering????  

  12. While many are clamoring “let this all be put behind us for the sake of the victims”,  I hold up an alternate viewpoint:  we owe it to the victims to fully understand how a man (albeit a “larger-than-life” personality by many descriptions) could rise to the level of power and influence to be trusted as blindly as he was trusted by people in power.   Why?   So we can LEARN from it put filters/processes/reminders in place so that it doesn’t happen again.  

    Bob provoked powerful feelings of trust and loyalty in many and, quite the opposite in others who felt something didn’t feel right.    Beyond his oversized ego and “look at me” qualities, were behaviors/qualities that made you go “hmmmm…”?     

    I agree with many of the commenters that this feels a little to closely aligned with the PENN State scandal for comfort.   Did people in authority (Husson President,  Sheriff deputy, police office, therapist) act in a manner appropriate to the situation?   How did this man, who appears to have falsified many of this experiences and qualifications, hold so many different influential and powerful posts?  

    Wouldn’t the victims want us to keep the focus on how this happened and what can we learn from this horrible abuse of power and privilege so that their pain wasn’t for naught?   I can only imagine how scared and angry they have been for years with what Bob was getting away with….

    Please BDN,  dig deep and use this as an opportunity for community to learn.  Focus good journalistic reporting not on the victims but on what happened to enable Carlson to do what he did for so long.

  13.  “The former president of Husson University, a Penobscot County sheriff’s deputy, a Bangor police officer and a therapist who treated some of Carlson’s victims also were interviewed. They said they had either received information about or witnessed Carlson engage in criminal or sexual behavior over the last four decades. ”  These  aforementioned individuals are MANDATED REPORTERS under law…to not report the allegations against Carlson to the proper authorities is an abrogation of their professional responsibilities. So very sad for all involved….

  14. Please stop showing his picture  the guy was nothing more than a fraud and a coward.   A lot of people knew about this and did nothing. 

  15. I think it is clear alot of people knew what he was and did not do anything thing about it…Unlike the Sandusky/ Paterno case there is probably alot less concrete evidence of a cover up and people protecting this guy…knowing the media in Maine they will not do anything more on this just as they did when they stopped covering a state senator owing money to Irving who was working on a mining permit for them and the list goes on…

  16. How could people with this authority witness  this and not say anything??????  Wow makes you really wonder about them – were they part of it?

  17. I hope the Bangor Daily is following up with the former president of Husson, B.P.D., and P.C.S.D. and ask them what they did know and what actions they did/didnot take.  This report only generated more questions then answer about bob carlson.  It made me sick to my stomach that someone I thought I knew could do what he did and now the sick feeling is back when I see that a lot of people knew and possibly did nothing or very little to stop him.  Did carlson really retire from Husson or was he just asked to leave so Husson could wash their hands of him.  The same can be asked about the police departments. 

  18. This man proved to be anything but Reverent!   Why is he still referred as so??And if it’s true that these so-called officers of the law knew what was going on, was was in it for them not to say anything?  And then good friend Ross informed him of what was going down, and all of this is OK??–What is so special with some of these people that this is all right??–What if it had been a child of theirs?—-There’s a lot wrong here!

  19. So sad.  It makes me wonder if those that knew anything and when they knew it didn’t report it because they were afraid to ruin Rev. Carlson’s reputation?  It also leads me to question if people in high places are being covered up in the redacted portion of that report. 

  20. these allegations would’ve probably only netted him 2-3 years in the clink knowing the State of Maine penalty for sexual abuse. maybe he was doing something ‘even more sinister’ if he jumped. like selling maryjane.

  21. How in the HELL can someone in authority or a parent have such information & not see that it gets to law enforcement?  A sin & a crime. 

  22. It’s tragic that fear stops so many from doing the right thing.  Unfortunately this is the norm and will probably never change.  Corruption is so firmly entrenched in every day life now and a good reason is most won’t speak up and  many that do are often treated as though they commit-ed the the crime rather than they reported it.  Cover ups are more common than justice.

  23. I reported this story to CNN, Fox News, ABC & NBC.  Hopefully National News will pick this up.  Charges need to be brought against those who knew and failed to protect us.

      1. Those who enabled him, and allowed it to continue for so long are still alive, and should pay for not reporting it.

        1. They should. But is parading this story on national news going to accomplish that? Is that any good for the victims of this man? Do we not know some of the key players already? Half the reason sexual abuse is so damaging is because of the hysteria. The physical and mental damage to the individual from the abuser isnt enough, so we blow it into this huge thing and talk about it constantly and make it into something it doesnt have to be… Yeah, it is a problem. People should be punished. I just dont know that getting into a frenzy about it is going to accomplish that.

          1. Airing this story on national news could force someone to charge those who knew instead of covering it up.  Sweeping things under the rug and covering them up is a lot easier when its just in the local paper.  Air it on National TV and I bet we get answers and things get handled.

          2. It could be useful, sure, but it could also be very damaging to the people abused by him. Is it worth potentially putting these people through more pain? I think the beginning to the trail of cover-ups is already exposed. It should be followed, not turned into a highway.

          3. They would not expose those abused without their consent.  Also, it could be very healing for the victims to stand up for the children and how sexual abusers operate.

      2. That’s right don’t involve yourself in things that don’t affect you right?  After all it didn’t happen to you so why should you care??  ‘ The abuse has ended’ clearly NOT for the people he abused who will continue to live with what Carlson did to them for the rest of their lives….And how do we get past all the pedophiles??  Let me guess what your solution is….just stop talking about it.  Pathetic AND ridiculous.  

        1. Yeah, that is right. I dont care. I dont know the people he harmed and I dont know him. It dosnt effect me directly. I have no heart, say what you like, it gives me the ability to think rationally. Emotion is useless…. You are a piece of work, you know that, right? You dont get past pedophiles. You dont deal with them. You dispose of them and wait for the next one. Rinse, wash, repeat. Half the reason people suffer is because they are not allowed to forget. Things need to be talked about, but not in the way which people do. Talk to those around you. Gather support from those who can effect you positively and those who contribute to your happiness. Dont stand atop a mountain and yell it for the world to hear….. More insults. You are awfully quick to denounce those you cant understand.

          1. You’re right I don’t understand you,  nor do I need to nor am I required to.  You have clearly no idea what you are talking about – are you a therapist?  Do you have training in abuse issues?   News Flash people who are abused NEVER forget….they have to work at healing everyday…… speaking of people you can’t understand.  Try talking about something you have some knowledge about.

          2. Spare me your sermons. Are YOU an therapist? Are YOU trained in dealing with abuse issues? NEWS FLASH: I was severely abused and neglected by my father through-out my child-hood and teenage years. He beat me severely and abused me emotionally very frequently. I have been to therapists through-out my life. I am not some kid who speaks without knowledge. I have suffered at the hands of those who should have protected me. I dont need a lesson. But nor am I going to seek compassion. He was a poor excuse for a father and thats it. I dont dwell on it. Has my being been effected by his lack of compassion? Sure it has. What person wouldnt suffer lasting effects? But I dont dwell on it. Its over. Im am older, I dont speak with him. I dont worry about yesterday. You can talk all you like. I dont presume to know your life’s events or how you have arrived at your conclusions. For you to assume that you know anything about me is the height of ignorance. Would I be expressing my opinions about abuse if I knew nothing of it? Is that what normal people do? Am I questioning your knowledge? No. I am simply disagreeing with some of your opinions. Please, save your hatred for those who cause other people harm. I might have no heart, but Im not trying to take other peoples from them. You need to stop being so combative. Remove your emotion from the issue and THINK. Negative emotion serves us no purpose, what we need is rational thinking.

          3. Why strangely enough Yes I am a therapist and yes I have a great deal of training regarding abuse and neglect issues…. my point is simply this – what may have worked for you to get through your ordeal does NOT work for everyone else YOU may want to forget what happened to you and if that works for you great.  That does not work for the majority of people who have been abused.  Unfortunately being abused does not qualify you as being an expert regarding the therapeutic process in dealing with victims of abuse and neglect – that’s like saying someone who has had cancer in now competent to be an oncologist…..not quite.  People need to do whatever they need to do to heal- everyone is different  and if yelling from a mountain top helps them feel better and enables them move beyond their pain and helps them heal…yell away.  Do whatever you need to do to heal and who am I or who is anyone else to tell them any different??  I’m sure you are NOT damaged goods I’m equally sure you have much to offer.  I just happen to know that you cannot use a cookie cutter to treat people because everyone is different and everyone has different needs. 

          4.  You are a therapist ?  Speaking of cookie cutter, that is exactly what you are doing. Look back at some of your comments, does your therapy go with you giving opinion and hardly listening. You could be making much more educated , compassionate, and helpful statements here if you are in fact worth your salt as a therapist. This is a teaching moment , use it, don’t waste it.

          5. Probably the first comment I can partially agree with. I never claimed to be an expert simply because I am a victim. I just merely said I have insight into what I am talking about. A lot of people THINK they know what they are talking about. A lot of people who have suffered think they know. Its a sad truth that most often they probably don’t have a good grasp because of their proximity and part in the situation itself. People typically are rather clueless. However, that being said, I am also not convinced that because someone has a piece of paper makes them more knowledgeable then I. The education system in this country really means nothing. I am not insulting you, here, at all. I just feel like the individual should know themselves and that any intelligent person should reasonably be able to take care of themselves and sort out their own problems. Its a lack of self-reliance that plagues our country today. I cant handle all my own business, at some point I will need help with something, sometime, but I think all too often people seek to let others give them the answers.  I assure you, my words are not empty. I have found my answers of my own accord. I dont assume my way will work an I do understand that some people need to talk an if yelling atop a mountain makes you feel better than I agree, it should be done an I, nor you nor God is able to say it is wrong. I never said that. I think a person should really consider the repercussions before they do so. You need to think about who is listening before you start to yell. The world isnt a soft place, as a therapist I am sure you see this in your day to day life. In fact, due to the nature of your occupation, I assume you’d have to understand the evils of the world in order to help people deal with them. People are different. People do have different needs. I have never once disagreed with that. My point all along has been that oft times people do things they shouldnt because they lack insight. Most people are in no place to assist as most people know little of suffering. Real pain is what ignorance cannot feel. Surely an educated person such as yourself must realize that the vast majority of people are completely out of touch with themselves. People are confused animals by nature. They shouldnt attempt to act when they cannot do so rationally. Abuse needs to be talked about in general. It needs to be recognized and people should do whatever they can to prevent it, if its their business to do so. Those who commit abuse, especially against children deserve to be treated harshly. The wounding of a child is the worse act a human could perform. However, its a slippery slope all around. Abuse and dealing with it is as complex a situation as the people involved. I just dont think that making a huge deal out of abuse on an individual basis of any kind is the answer. Abuse is a big deal, but not the abuse I suffered nor the abuse any single person has suffered. To ourselves and those around us, it might be a big deal. But in the over-all picture, we become a statistic. A number on a page. Does that make us important? I do not think so. Its make the greater picture important. Our importance is slight and our story small, we but contribute. I just really feel like because abuse is such an intense personal issue, trying to deal with it in a public way is just not the answer, most often. But then again, I have always favored the quiet and isolation. Anyway, I do believe this has gone on long enough. Im not sure if we are on the same page here, Doc, but, I wish you well no less, as clearly, you have the kind of heart and mind which this world so desperately needs, regardless if I think you use them incorrectly. Good day.

      3. If it could only be that simple DevilDude. The victims are still very much alive and still have to deal with this. Those that knew what was going on should be brought to justice just like in the Sandusky case – police officers included.

        1. I agree completely. They need be held responsible. But airing this story on national news is not going to help the victims. They have suffered enough. Publishing this same story over and over helps no-one.

          1. That is not true.  What about those who have been sexually abused by a family member or close family friend or neighbor?  It is healing to see this pedophile and whatever else he was got caught and was exposed dead or alive.

          2. Who are trying to protect?  As an abused person it makes me wonder why you wouldn’t want the whole truth out.  You make no sense.  Who’s your father, Ross, Beardsley?  

      4. A bunch of people still need to account for their failures to take action, some it appears may be law enforcement “professionals” who should lose their jobs and face charges for the shameful way it appears they looked the other way.

        1. Indeed. But it doesnt mean we need to continue to parade the story through the news. The victims deserve more justice then this, a constant reminder. Find those responsible, punish them, then tell us about it.

      5. His victims are alive.  They’ll suffer forever, thanks to him.  Can’t let this die…as Burke said, “Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.”

      6.  The abuser may be dead but the victims have been through hell and our community allowed this man to have access and power that he shouldn’t have.   We owe it to the victims to understand how this came to be (no background checks,  people in authority turning a blind eye, etc.) so it doesn’t happen again.  

        1. It will happen again. You cant predict or prevent such things from happening. No amount of prevention will stop it from happening. You people fail to realize that acts such as this have always been happening, since the dawn of human existence. To think its a new problem and that its solvable is silly. It simply isnt. All we can do is figure out the best means of helping people cope with the damage.

          1. DevilDude,
            I agree with much of what your write. While, sadly, we are never likely to eradicate abuse to children, I do believe we can learn and improve from evaluating our mistakes. In this case, I am particularly interested in the people in authority who didn’t take action. The therapist whose office was treating multiple victims? Really? No accountability there? How about the Beardsley and the fact he had his attorney brother call and express concern about the public relations concerns? Oh, and how about his car being parked multiple nights a week in a dark, secluded area of the parking lot and on at least one occasion it looked like a young person was in the vehicle with him? Shouldn’t any one of these caused some official alarms or investigations to occur?
            Make examples out of the people that should have done something that didn’t.

          2.  I think a lot of what this guy did should have caused a lot of alarms to go off. Unfortunately, people in places of power have the means to cover-up their horrific crimes. Such is the nature of the world we live in, sadly. I agree with your post. There are some things that can be done, perhaps, to stop the abuse before it happens, but its hard to prepare for an earth-quake you dont know thats coming. Damage control should be the priority. We need better things in place to deal with abused children and better means of catching those who abuse. All too often that blind eye is turned, especially when the accused is in a position similar to that which Carlson was.

        1. Because that punishes him? How does suing his estate equal justice for the victims? LOL @ believing that suing a dead guy solves anything.

          1.  Yeah I am. You caught me…. Where you do people come from? I am simply suggesting that the man who caused the damage is dead. I just dont see how suing his estate accomplishes anything. His “estate” didnt hurt anyone. His wife (while I assume she isnt innocent) may have done nothing wrong. Therefore, suing his estate is going to make people suffer who might not have done nothing or knew nothing. Simply because I say its frivolous to sue a dead person hardly means I am his son, chief. Chill out a bit. I am in defense of logic and reason, not pedophiles. I really, really, really wish I could give you the proper verbal lashing, here. But I am unsure whether to pity you or scorn you so instead Ill do nothing.

      7. So you believe the it’s alright for the poor children to be sexually abused by the elite ruling class

  24. This is despicable. Bangor is the sex offender capital of Maine, having more sex offenders than even Portland, which has double the population of Bangor. Other cities and even other states send their sex offenders to Bangor because they can get free food and housing here. There are even rooming houses in Bangor that cater to sex offenders, located right in the middle of neighborhoods with children. And, convicted child rapists can live anywhere in Bangor, including near parks and schools.

      1. Everything I wrote is 100% true. Just ask Bangor’s city council members. They know all about it.

      1. I already did the math. There are more in Bangor than there are in Portland but Portland has more than double the population of Bangor. You need to search by zip code to get an accurate number. There’s more than one zip code in both cities.

        1. So tell us, why is it they come to Bangor?  I believe you know and have posted this before.  I think it has something to do with a homeless shelter that accepts them and also the free rent check.  I wish the BDN would expose what Bangor is doing.  The public deserves to know.  

  25. Sounds like shadiness all around. Would be nice if since it has not been proven that BDN once and for all stop calling him Rev. And please no more pictures.
    Why doesn’t BDN post a copy of the report?

  26. I am absolutely disgusted at the people that knew what was going on – and did nothing – and those that continue to cover for them by not revealing their names and allowing them to continue in their professions, professions that allowed him to continue with his abuse for years and years instead of being used to STOP HIM.

    Whomever you are – Shame on you. 

  27. this report tells nothing we didnt already know i wanna know who knew what and when ,heads need to roll,the cover up continues in the sex offender capitol of maine

    1. Actually it does. Here are some of the previously unknown revelations:

      One of the interviews makes mention that “Bob” wanted to purchase Bath Salts.

      That he was observed by a Bangor Police officer leaving the “darkest area” of a parking lot. He talked with another officer about setting up surveillance cameras but decided the area Bob was parking in was “to dark”.

      Another interview reveals Richardson was not the only person to observe young children in the jail.

      There is even a copy of a Masters Degree from a New York Theology school.

      And another interview with a former Bangor officer that now works for UMaine PD and what occurred in the Steam Plant parking lot.

      I would suggest reading the redacted report if you are interested.

        1. Interesting. Shouldn’t be to hard for the BDN to confirm if Carlson was ever incarcerated in Sing Sing. If he was that opens another whole door for investigation and how it wasn’t uncovered during his career in law enforcement, etc…

          Thanks for posting that link.

  28. I really would like to hear what strange psychology Ross and others used to maintain their silence, if that is what it was, which allowed such abuse to continue.  Pedophilia as a condition probably cannot be stopped, but inaction when confronted with it is what needs to  go away.  Why was the abuse allowed to go on if it was known or even suspected?  I agree with many other posters here that this question needs to be answered.

    1. I believe because the victims were from poor families. It seems to be excepted that the elite class are allowed to abuse the poor in Maine.
      When so many people have so much dirt on each other these thing are allowed. I’m sure Carlson had dirt on the sheriff so that wasn’t going anywhere.

    2. Early here, Cindy said he was a skin dog while she was an inmate.  That situation should be looked at and any other activities he may have been engaged.

  29. Looking back at the other BDN stories, he never received a degree from any of the schools he claimed to have a degree from, and there was only record of him taking a couple classes.
    A total fraud!  

  30. Did I accuse you of remaining silent, no. Did you report it to the police, if you did and it was ignored who ignored it, did you go to the media? There is still time for you to let everybody know what you knew, go and talk to the State Police right now. It might be healthy. The primary victims are the ones Carlson molested, the only right thing to do is to ensure that this does not happen again, and it will happen againe if we just move on!. I’ll refrain from calling your comment stupid.

  31. The rot goes deep in America.

    These clergymen and clergywomen are not advocating abortion and homosexual marriage out of the goodness of their hearts.

    The moral corruption runs deep in America. 

    1.  Abortion and “homosexual marriage” have nothing to do with pedophilia. Please educate yourself.

      1. They are all forms of evil.

        “Reverend” Bob Carlson was an advocate of all three.

        The advocacy by the clergy of homosexual marriage helped create the climate which produced a Bob Carlson. 

        I mean, are you surprised that the good reverend was an advocate of gay marriage?

        Or was it Fred Phelps who jumped off a bridge? 

        The rot goes deep in this society. 

    2. And your hatred is stirring the pot.  Your clergymen tell you one thing then do another.  You are an incredible bigot who fosters evil thoughts.  Go away.

  32. This case should not be closed until all those who knew of the sexual abuse of innocent children are held accountable. We owe it to all the children who he has damaged for life. We need to end the silence so many  take and end up protecting the perpetrator instead of the children. This is so WRONG.

    1. They are not high end kids, he preyed on the poor knowing full well the police don’t care about what happened, as long as it didn’t happen to to one of the special peoples kids.

  33. They say the case is closed?  How about arresting and charging the professionals who knew and did nothing to protect the young from this shameful man?

    1. Agree…but the tv coverage of it just suggested maybe we will see some charges yet-against those who were mandated to report it and failed to.

    1. Few details from the report include, carlson providing money for the purchase of bath salts, asking to be able to view child pornography tapes a detective had as evidence, witnessed by a police officer parking in a dimly lit part of a parking lot at times with a young male in the vehicle, employee of an agency viewing carlson “going at it” in his car in a parking lot, someone seeing carlson drive out from behind a school with a young boy in his vehicle’…

  34. WTH Glenn Ross ? Really? Tipped off your friend they were on to him.. You need to resign , you are a disgrace to that badge.  Really ? You were manipulated into a “friendship” with a child molester that did these thing right under your nose and you claim to have no inclination then you Sir are either a liar or the worst judge of character in the history of law enforcement. Oh wait then you tip off your friend that they are on to him.  I am shocked you are still wearing a badge. Take that badge off today and show some respect to all  GOOD law enforcement officers.

  35. Keep in mind that newspapers, television, radio are governed by laws of libel. They can’t just print what they “know.” They have to be able to document it. Otherwise, the subject hauls the media entity into court where a jury of his peers happily socks the newspaper or station with a judgment of say, a half-million dollars or so. People have to do more than tell their story, they have to be willing to go on the record. It doesn’t help, either, when a local mental health agency hires a defrocked clergy member without asking for any references, as happened some years ago in Bangor. Where’s the glitch? It’s not the media. In so many situations, there is a high-priced lawyer protecting the denomination, and believe me, they’re not all Catholic.

  36. Why is the case closed, when obviously there are many reports of abuse from way back?  Too many upper crusts involved?
    The dead can not be prosecuted, but others involved in keeping this secret for such a long time could be giving a sense of peace to the living victims. Also, the public has a right to know about this public figure.
    Story about a dead priest from ME had more info.

    1. It’s not closed to civil suits towards his estate. There they would have the right to see the whole report

  37. I think we all would feel different if the child was your own or grandchild . Shame on the people that our taxes dollars pay.They will live with this injustice.Maybe instead of tipping his friend off he could have saved his life would be my ?????????

  38. Hope this opens the eyes of those who say he was homosexual.  He was a PEDOPHILE. Huge difference-but you can’t educate those who want to remain stupid.

      1. No…a pedophile for sure and if you insist of using labels the appropriate one would be bi-sexual. He was married for 40+ years “not”.

        1. “not”, you have not proof that he was anything but a homosexual pedophile.  He hung out at the homosexual hang out.  Read the report, jd.  Please try to stay informed.  

          1. You want proof “not”? He was married for over 40+ years. He was leading a heterosexual lifestyle for those looking. Again, if you want to hang a label on Carlson he was a pedophile because he engaged in sexual relations with children.

            I go to a bar, does that make me a drunk?

            And “not” I read the redacted report 4 hours ago. Please do try to keep up.

          2. You have no proof of a heterosexual relationship.  Therefore you cannot state that. You are married does that make you a heterosexual?  You obviously were not reading the entire report.

          3. And you have no proof that he wasn’t. What we do have is proof that he was a pedophile and that in one case the pedophilia continued into adulthood. I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist (and I don’t believe you are either) but I do know the power and control that the predictor has over the victim doesn’t evaporate once the victim turns 18. And I doubt that someone that was abused as a young child can give informed consent as an adult to a continued sexual relationship when the sexual relationship was built on power and control to begin with.

            Oh, I read the WHOLE report. Every pay record. Every request for time off. Every redacted interview.

          4. You obviously did not know him.  So please stop assuming he was heterosexual. You seem to question anyone who knows anything about Carlson.  People like you are exactly why someone like him can get away with these lies.  You are still defending him.  You would have never believed anything about this man, pedophile, homosexual or otherwise.  Do you also still assume he was a “religious leader” or even a reverend?  

          5. LOL I “didn’t know him. OK “not” whatever you say.

            I am not defending him “not” I am explaining to those with open minds (which you don’t have) that a person who preys on children is a pedophile. That is what he was. A pedophile. Are you going to deny that Carlson was a pedophile?

            Carlson was a fake. You can keep on attacking me by it will change nothing. Carlson was a fake, a conman that fooled many many more people way smarter then me.

            Here is a fact for you to chew on. If one person, just one person mandated reporter had called DHHS Child Protective Services and reported their suspicion we might have saved the trauma some of his victims suffered.

            So rather than attacking me, maybe you should direct some of that hatred and anger at the former President of Husson that had to have his brother the attorney present prior to being interviewed by the MSP.

            Or maybe the former PC Deputy Sheriffs that suspected and did nothing.

            Or maybe the current and former Bangor officers that saw him in questionable areas to the point of considering setting up surveillance cameras but didn’t because it was to dark.

            Or how about that “therapist” that reported multiple victims but didn’t tell anyone until their interview with the MSP.

            Or how about the person that barred Carlson from the victims group because they questioned why he was there.

            How much pain and suffering could have been prevented? We will never know because they did NOTHING.

            So maybe you anger is better directed at them “not”. It was they that had information and did nothing with it. Yes I “knew” Carlson but I didn’t know him.

      2. Wrong….. pedophilia is not about being gay……….if you had a clue you would know that.

  39. Sad part of this is  he’s dead  , he couldn’t  take responsibility for his actions easy way out ” suicide “.  And his family is hearing more about this side of this man i’m sure they didn’t know..  His family is paying for his actions along with the victims. This man should of had a private funeral.  All those people that showed up , why?  He didn’t do any good.  He used people for his own advantage. 

  40. Lest anyone think this is the end of sexual abuse by a person of the cloth, let me tell you, it may only be the beginning.  There is more than one “reverend”  “pastor” in the cult-like churches in the area who should be shaking in his boots right about now.

    1. Their Steeples are rip off’s of the Egyptian obelisk, which was built to symbolize the god of the earth’s phallus…. And yet, they preach abstinence in its shadow. How amusing… Is it any wonder they are nutty? The church is the largest cult that ever existed.

  41. Pedophiles are all around us… that is a fact.  They work or frequent churches, boy scout camps, schools, baseball fields, playgrounds and can be priests, teachers, coaches, trusted adults and they are where ever kids are.  They are often among those considered to be the most unlikely people.  They don’ t announce themselves or their intentions so it’s up to the people who become aware or even suspect pedophilia or sexual abuse to do something about it.  People need to step up to the plate and protect the children… it’s that simple.  That’s the only way pedophiles can be removed from society.

  42. jd2008jd:

    “non sequitor” in this case is not a noun.

    It is a phrase used in logic which means “it does n0t follow.”

    1. Ah but it does Son….it does follow. You have done nothing but use this as a political tool to advance your agenda. Not once have you expressed even the smallest amount a sympathy for the victims of Carlson horrific crime.

  43. Cowards everywhere!!!  Sadly, there isn’t anybody involved in this horrible situation that has the guts to admit their wrongdoing.  Everybody is covering everyone else’s back while the victims are left to pick up the pieces.  The level of disgusting this has reached is beyond acceptable in any society.  The individuals who had information, a lot or a little, had a MORAL obligation to say something.  How does everybody sleep at night.  How do we keep calling this man “Reverend”?  I prefer scumbag pig myself.  These individuals used their “perceived” positions of power to manipulate and victimize innocent people.  Yes, you who turned a blind eye, you are as guilty as the pig coward who jumped off the bridge to avoid his consequences.  Bangor ME is the new Penn State.  This is nothing to be proud of and every inch of the truth should be exposed and those responsible held to task!!!  The victims had ZERO choice in this.  Why should those who are responsible get to live their lives in peace? 

    1. On the PDF report that was listed on the Bangor Daily there was a woman who mentioned in the report on November 16, 2011 that she thought there was a local “sex cult” or organized local pedophile network, which may have included people who could have been in a position to cover for him.

      1. BINGO!!!!!  There’s the answer to everyone’s question as to WHY HIS COMPUTER WAS NOT INVESTIGATED! Thank you Arcturus!!

      2. Law enforcement certainly should have checked his computer.  He asked asked Bangor PD for access to child porn for his research.  I f that wasn’t a red flag I do not know what else could have been.  Sometimes their is a cult activity.  I would look at Ross for that connection.

  44.   While
    many are clamoring “let this all be put behind us for the sake of the
    victims”,  I hold up an alternate viewpoint:  we owe it to the victims
    to fully understand how a man (albeit a “larger-than-life” personality
    by many descriptions) could rise to the level of power and influence to
    be trusted as blindly as he was trusted by people in power.   Why?   So
    we can LEARN from it put filters/processes/reminders in place so that it
    doesn’t happen again.  

    Bob provoked powerful feelings of trust and loyalty in many and,
    quite the opposite in others who felt something didn’t feel right.   
    Beyond his oversized ego and “look at me” qualities, were
    behaviors/qualities that made you go “hmmmm…”?      What can be learned from this?

    I agree with many of the commenters that this feels a little to
    closely aligned with the PENN State scandal for comfort.    Bob used money and his influence/power/connections as a form of power over his victims?  He was given almost unfettered access to young children.   He was revered and adored without any real question.  Did people in
    authority (particularly the Husson President, Sheriff, office who saw repeated mysterious trips to a very dark parking lot and therapist)
    act in a manner appropriate to the situation?   How did this man, who
    appears to have falsified many of his credentials and qualifications,
    hold so many different influential and powerful posts?  

    Isn’t it important to keep the focus on how this happened
    and what can we learn from this horrible abuse of power and privilege so
    that the victim’s pain wasn’t for naught?   I can only imagine how scared, ashamed and
    angry they have been for years with what Bob was getting away with….

    Please BDN,  dig deep and use this as an opportunity for community to
    learn.   Continue respecting the privacy and concerns of the victims but place the emphasis on the people that could and SHOULD have prevented this from going on for over 30 years.

    1. This is magnificently said.   I have been encouraging Judy Harrison for years to address this, as there were several Bangor pastors in recent years who were defrocked for their sexual misconduct with adults. Many think these things are consensual in nature; they NEVER an affair, as there is power involved, in the exact ways you described. 
      What many have to ‘get past’ is their shame that they trusted this guy. Shame is such a powerful thing, and prevents us from healing. What everyone who knew and trusted him needs to know is that you do not need to feel shame. This is exactly how the web works;  perpetrators create an environment where shame can grow and it keeps the secret hidden and the blind trust happening. 
      Transforming shame into anger is the first step. Not anger that will harm, but anger that creates an environment where change can happen, where those processes/filters/consciousness raising that you mentioned can begin to happen. 
      I hope the BDN will make this next, courageous step.

  45. Interesting, from an interview in the police report: Bob hung out at Valley Ave, a known hang out for the gay community.  Bangor Police have had problems there in the past.  This is something the BDN would normally never report.  Finally some journalism exists.  Bangor really needs to protect the children.  Why is the pedophile population in Bangor so large?  Let’s really do some investigative journalism.  When there is just one victim, that in turn affects so many people.

  46. This is the rule rather than the exception. We tend to view these incidents as “lone” abusers. The truth is that most public safety and educational abusers band together into well organized, well financed (often with our tax dollars) organizations that help groom prey, intimidate witnesses, and protect each other. A victim or witness who speaks out does so at the risk of their safety or careers. The rest of us just sit around in denial and wonder why those nice teachers move the students with the big bellies into their homes and take care of them.

    It is easy to say “speak up” but it is a lot harder to do once you know the cost of doing so! 

    1. Right.  Like the superintendent in Hermon whose husband sexually assaulted a teenage boy when he worked for Conifer.  He lost his job.  Then a few years ago he hired a sex registry young man at his convenience store.  When this was noted to another administrator, the young man was suddenly gone.  People like this think people in town don’t know.  We are not as stupid as you think.  Yet, the superintendent still stays with this vile man and will get rid of anyone who knows the truth.  Hide in your silent hell.

  47. I knew Bob Carlson for over 25 years, and I never saw this coming.  As an atheist, I generally hold people of strong religious persuasion in rather low regard.  But Bob, I always thought highly of him.  I asked him to officiate my father’s funeral, which he did.  

    I never had any idea.
    I’m saddened to find all this out.

    He was the one man of the cloth I really felt I could look up to.

      1. It sure seems like it.  

        Tell you what, it’s no like I needed even more reason to distrust the overly religious…but I sure have it now.

        Thanks, Bob, for demonstrating more evidence that Christopher Hitchings was right.  All along, you were a fraud.  Head to toe.  You proved even YOU didn’t believe the filth you spewed.  If you did, if you truly believed, you never, ever, could have done the things you did.
        Bob, as it turns out, was just a dirty-minded man with little boys on his mind.

        For shame, all of us, for ever thinking there was anything good in that man that didn’t come with a price to be paid, in this case, by someone’s children…

    1. “Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.”

      Those who believed in the Bible were not deceived by Bob Carlson. 

      1. Please.  Don’t insult me.  I personally know dozens of people who believe in the Bible (not me, I’m atheist), and they were all deceived by Bob Carlson.  So was I.

        There’s a list of people and organizations who were deceived by him so long that it would require chapters just to get started.

        1. There is a difference between believing the Bible, and obeying God.

          If they truly obeyed God, which they do not, with Rock and Roll in the churches and women clergy, they would instantly have known Carlson was a fraud.

          1. Shows what this atheist knows about the Bible and believing in God, doesn’t it?

            I would have thought that anyone who believed in Him, worshipped him regularly, cared for the poor and lived a holy life would have been real faith.Turns out, it’s more about the kind of music they like and whether or not they oppress women.Huh.  Who knew?

            You wanna know the truth?  I don’t even BELIEVE in God, SonofBangor…and I’m a more holy man than you’ll ever be.

            Who’d have thought -I- stood a better chance at getting in to heaven than you?

        2. Then perhaps it is time for you to quietly reflect on why I and many others were not deceived.

          1. Perhaps you might want to reflect quietly on why I, an atheist, who doesn’t believe in God, doesn’t claim to, and was still willing to give him a chance to be an good man, when you clearly weren’t?

          2. I am not an atheist.  I find your comments very condescending.  You were not deceived because it was not your child.  He was an evil, evil man who hurt many children.  Your support of him promotes evilness as you must be.  

      2. Give it a break….he was the devil.  How can you revel him.  Nothing but a snake in the grass.  Please know you were deceived as all were.  

  48. nasty, that dude tried to do a slappy little hand game thing with my child… i got as far away as possible from him. too bad it took so long for the sad truth to come out, makes you wonder how corrupt the whole system really is. i can’t believe nobody questioned him when he was bringing young people into the jail during late night hours. unbelievable.

  49. if there are more victims out there… why are they closing the case? that’s pretty ignorant.

  50. What kills me is that the story states that a therapist, a sheriff, the president of Husson College, and a Bangor police officer who had heard of or witnessed Carlson’s abuse over FOUR DECADES  were interviewed…..didn’t they have a responsibility to report what they witnessed/or heard? Whether it was true or not he should have been reported.  No…..because he was a “pillar of the community”……would have been a lot different if it was some poor person from Capehart…they would have been all over him in a minute whether it was true or not…..name splashed all over the paper with pictures and headlines for as long as it sold papers…..just goes to show what really happens in Bangor….it’s who you know and what you have…..being from the elite affords you the ability to be as vile as you want cause your money and stature in the community provides you with a blanket of immunity……

    1. How you become one in the ruling class is to have dirt on each other, nobody can say anything about the other Because they all have dirt on each other. That is the way the ruling class works.
      As for the abuse cases lets call it what it is. sexually abuse  and most likely the reason they didn’t say anything is because the children come from poor families..

  51. Just a thought, I wonder if any health care professionals at Penobscot Community Health Center knew what was going on and afraid to tell,  in fear of losing there job. 

  52. 1. I don’t believe sheriff Glenn Ross.
    2. Those cops couldn’t just sneak up on the vehicle and catch him in the act and make the arrest? Something is fishy about their excuse as well.

    Did you know that 9 British police officers were arrested in a kiddy porn round up?

    1. They were scarety cats who didn’t want to stand up to the power.  Somebody with a camera with the flash on could have hid and caught him in the act in that dark corner of the parking lot or at the gay known area.  Nobody did anything, but talk about it.

  53. Changing the headline doesn’t do it. STOP calling him Rev. BDN!!!! He wasn’t a reverend or a saint or anything but a con man. Sorry you were duped. Not all of us were, but criticizing this man was like criticizing God him or herself when he was living. No one should be idolized to the point of blindness to their faults. That only hurts everyone.

  54. The wvon morning showwith  Ric and George must have seen him bring in kids before. I think Carlson introduced kids on the God Squad before.. You won’t hear WVOM talking bad about their friends of a of the show . Sad bunch, they  approved the God squad show  with their best buddy  Carlson.. Actually Ric Tyler is an aclaimed Christian and most like indorsed it himself.. Ric, George did he bring kids into the studio with him?

    Did the police question Ric and George? Did thay have dirt on each other and is that the reason the morning talk show with Ric and George don’t talk about the Carlson incident. What are they hiding through omission

  55. You know it’s kinda funny reading some of these comments here. I remember when this happened there was so SO many people saying he couldnt of done this he was a nice man blah blah blah and those commenters would get irate if you tried to get it through their head that he jumped for a reason and that reason was he was guilty. What do they all (at least some) say now?? I didnt even know this guy and I knew he did it! Just that motherly gut feeling I guess but I am glad that this man cannot do this to anyone ever again! I dont think that the best thing was for him to kill himself but at least he cant do this to someone ever again. Its just sick!

  56. So sad that so many in a position to help stop this seemingly lacked class and courage.  I hope they feel shame for the things that have or haven’t done that have led to the harm of these victims. 

  57. Robert Carlson=  WAS A MONSTER… A MASS SERIAL RAPIST   that wore sheep clothing

    the devil is sticking a pitchfork in his eyes this moment

  58. Most people who reach a level of superiority and are put on a pedestal are tempted by the power that others give them.  There is no way to prevent this except by not giving this power.  We are all equal in all things.  In everyday life there is no need for a hierarchy.

  59. carlson was president and co-founder of penobscot community health services as well as founding hope house (a potential source of victims). over many years, no one in pchc’s administration had even a suspicion of carlson’s activities?

    1. Exactly my point.  They have  Penobscot Peds .  and a mental health clinic.  Someone had to know something..  If they did  is in the report?  

    2. And that is the problem. I knew Carlson for a period of time on a professional level. I never socialized with him but I saw him once or twice a month for approximately 10 years. I never saw him engage in any questionable behavior or in any act that would have raised red flags.

      That’s what a conman does. They con people into believe they are who they say they are. By the time he reached PCHC he was well entrenched in the Bangor community and I doubt they would have questioned his background in any manner. After all, he was “Rev Bob”.

      Please don’t think I am defending Carlson because I am not. I am sure if the MSPs investigation had lead them to the doors of PCHC they would have investigated them. They did after all interview a sitting Commissioner (and one I might add was less than forthcoming in the interview).

      1. More persons like you need to write the way you wrote:  Explaining ‘how this happens’.   We must encourage everyone to move past any level of shame they are holding – and most don’t even know they feel shame – for having known this guy and realize that these guys are pros at the grooming process. Highly educated individuals have been groomed and drawn into the web you described, and don’t even know it.  To speak up and out is to 1) be courageous, but 2) also tacitly feel shame for having been ‘duped’, esp. by clergy, the worst case scenario there is.  Murder in the guise of caring, and even if he didn’t directly sexually abuse you, the crime is in the grooming, folks.
         

      2. You know guys like Carlson are not that bright, low average to average IQ at best.  What they use is charm.  They manipulate people with charm and favors.  

        1. Again, I saw Carlson in a professional manner and while I agree with your assessment that he used charm and likely favors he was far from having a low IQ.

          1. Okay I’ll put it this way. he was not gifted and talented.  If he was, he would have chosen a more honorable way.

    1. I think that maybe they should not so much dig him up again but start procecuting the others who knew and didn’t report the crimes.

  60. If the Maine State police has all these documents   are they going to indict or just sit back and do nothing?  I hope they make the correct choice  and let everyone in Maine know  and the rest if the world ,    We have 0 tollerace to sexually  abuse a child..
    My feeling if they don’t indict  you have more sexual offenders  targeting kids  thinking it’s ok.. 

  61. I never knew that he was a pehophile, but there was always something strange about this guy.  Another opinion is that his repeated “hanging-out”  with Ross surely raises my suspicions that Ross knew it all.

    1. Is there an age difference between him and Ross?  I’m thinking more along the lines that Ross may be a victum of his, if not sexually then politically.  Ross was quick to go along with the rumors and state that he wouldn’t be attending the funeral. 

  62. Bravo to the police for doing their part in keeping the victim’s privacy in their release of the report.  And while I know releasing the police report will help the victims move on and the community learn from past mistakes, I’m disappointed that it was done so publicly. Carlson is dead. I hate to be blunt, but it’s true. We knew months ago when he did it that this was being investigated and was likely true. The only ones being hurt now are his family. He can’t go to jail, he can’t pay for his crimes. But his family likely isn’t over his death, and will now have to face intrigue and talk about this wherever they go. 
    I sincerely hope this is the last we ever hear about this investigation. Not that other victims shouldn’t come forward, of course they should, but if his family could take much more of this they’re true saints. I know I certainly couldn’t. 

    1. Danielle,  the people in positions of authority and leadership that ignored red flags need to be held accountable.  It sends a message to all of us that we have a responsibility to be leaders when we see children falling victim to predators.    While some are advocates of brushing this nasty ugliness under the carpet,  we need to understand it.   I do agree with you that I am pleased with the press and authorities respecting the privacy of the victims.

  63. The State of Maine is the biggest joke when it comes to child molesters. I have talked to our representatives and our police force. Until laws are changed it will continue to be a big sad joke. Here is an example..A convicted sex offender of young boys lives in Newport. He was supposed to get 85 years for RAPING young boys. He plea-bargained on one count and received about 10. He now has started to “collect” young boys again  and it is perfectly legal because as long as the parent of the child knows he is a sex offender and gives permission for that child to spend time with him, it is perfectly legal. This has been verified through the police dept. and our Representatives. He knows all of his rights. It is time to start holding parents accountable also. Go ahead and let him keep spending time with your 9 year old.. and keep telling yourself that he wont touch your kid…and keep being a useless “piece of trash”  parent.  This boy raper was als a counselor for a boys camp and a mentor for at risk boys. What a joke.  He thinks he is getting away with this because he is!

  64. Anyone who stood around and watched this man do questionable things to children are no different than he is.  When you allow someone to abuse children you are as evil as the person who is doing the abusing.  Whether a person is mandated by law to report is irrelevent….it’s CHILDREN we are talking about.  More people should care about what is happening and care less about how it might affect them…..how would you feel if you were one of these children being abused and they saw adults that turned away and did nothing. 

  65. as i stated yesterday,if it was our own child or grandchild we would thnk different .Shame on the coverups our taxes dollars paid for !I figure tipping off a criminal is tampering with case.Those involved will live withit. If he wasnt tipped off he might be still alive owning up to this injustice.

  66. When one is a victim of abuse, you can “smell” it when you are amongst it.  Every time I was in his presence, I could sense there was something about this man I couldn’t trust.  Many people need to  be held accountable here.  They put Carlson beyond reproach while he  was causing injury to young people.  This is detestable on so many levels, it makes me sick.  

  67. Why did they not take his computer? Wouldn’t they want to check it for evidence? It sounds like a lot of people did and are still covering up what they knew. Ross was wrong in telling Carlson. There could have been many ways to keep Carlson out of the jail until the investigation was completed. Hopefully all the people who stood up for Carlson and saying the accusations were not true even after he jumped like a coward will re think their actions. No matter what good he did it was all a smoke screen to cover up what was really going on. I hope the victims (including Carlson’s family) can move on and start the healing process. And BDN please stop posting his picture and calling him Rev. he was far from a holy man as we now know.

    1. I find it interesting that Waldo County Sheriff had Ross come identify the body.  Serves Ross right.  Then he cried like a baby from his own guilt.

  68. The fact that this information was out there, swirling around so many people, for so many years,  is simply stunning.  The fact that not one of the people cited in the investigation took action upon being told there was possible abuse is inexcusable.  I always thought that therapists were mandated reporters.  I don’t think I could live with myself if I had this information and didn’t act, especially given how Carlson was held in such high regard in the community.  Glenn Ross should be held accountable for his actions (or inaction), as well.  Shame on everyone who did nothing,  thus prolonging the hell for the Bangor man and others who spent years being psychologically manipulated as the victims of this monster.

  69. “Because Carlson is dead and there is no one to charge in this case, his home computer was not taken as evidence, Coleman said.”
     

    I would think the home computer(s) could have been examined to determine if child pornography was on the hard drive and if so, perhaps some of those victims could have been identified, as well as leads to other active sexual predators! There are Carlson’s direct victims, and there could be indirect victims–after all every child who is forced to participate in unlawful sex is a victim. Carlson expressed interest and desire to view child pornography to Law Enforcement. This should be probable cause to examine the computer(s). There is no telling what might have been found that could be useful in the bigger picture of child pornography networks.

    Additionally, a sample of Mr. Carlson’s DNA should have been added to the U.S. Criminal  DNA database. Who knows what unsolved crimes might have been resolved with a possible match to his DNA. It seems unlikely that Carlson limited his predation to the greater Bangor, Maine, area. Whether or not he can be charged with any crimes is immaterial–closure for any other victims and family should be reason enough!

    Embarrassing as it must be for Law Enforcement to have been associated with this monster for so long, that should be all the more reason to aggressively continue to dig through Carlson’s history. Yes, he cannot be charged….but the information could have value in other ways.

    Victims, you have shown courage in the face of tremendous adversity and untold harm. With your perp’s self-inflicted punishment, with the public acknowledgment of Carlson’s heinous acts,  may the journey of healing begin, and…may peace be with you.

    Those Law Enforcement who didn’t connect the dots at the time due to society’s ingrained naivety regarding  “clergy”, but who, in looking back, saw more clearly what actually may have been going on, thank you for your honesty and willingness to come clean.

    To those in leadership positions (counselors, health care, presidents of universities, other clergy, etc.) who KNEW about Carlson’s victims and did NOTHING–some who have been named and others who will be able to remain anonymous–you will have to look in the mirror every day from here forward and acknowledge your cowardice and dishonesty to the one who matters the most. It is ALWAYS the right thing to speak out against those who prey on the defenseless., no matter what the possible consequence.

    1. The computer should have been looked at, to see if there were links to other pedophiles etc. The  computer may have been looked at but they may have chose to not include that in the report. If  his wife did not know you can bet the second they started talking about him being a pedophile she took a look at his computer!

  70. “After the Vermont call, Beardsley said “he was left with the impression that Bob Carlson may have homosexual tendencies.””
    AGAIN. Homosexuals are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM CHILD MOLESTERS. Why do people continue to be so ridiculously uneducated? Gay men and women don’t molest little boys or girls. PERVERTS do.

    1. Interestingly, Bearsdley never mentioned the on the news tonight.  He denied knowing anything.  Ya, right!?

  71. This guy was obviously an active pervert for decades and got away with it.  Now, it is true that allegations are just that until there is solid proof, but it seems clear that a number of people saw the red flags and had at least bits and pieces of information but didn’t pursue it properly because they were too worried about “rocking the boat with someone who is so esteemed as Rev. Carlson.”  Carlson was a cold, calculating perpetrator.  He “groomed” his victims and even their families with “help” and “services” not so much because he truly cared about people, but because he wanted to perpetrate his sick crimes.  He then lived a double life as a minister, service agency administrator, and a person connected to the criminal justice system to paint on a facade of an upstanding and proper citizen who “could never do such things”.  But no one can do this for decades and not have red flags go up, and a number obviously did and they were not properly follow up on.  That has to be the next step in this.  People need to be held to the fire and made to answer for why there was not more follow up, and if consequences need to be administered and policies reformed, so be it.  This needs to be a true learning experience, and one from which some good should come in the form of now holding those accountable who didn’t properly follow up on the red flags and should have.  I will say that it may well be quite unfair to lambaste Sheriff Ross.  From all indications he has been a dedicated public servant for decades, is a real pro, and has a spotless professional record.  He had a duty to keep Carlson from access to the jail, and as part of this was in a position to give Carlson the general reason for this.  I don’t think he was trying to “alert his friend” to the fact that he was being investigated so Carlson could prepare to better fight the case.  Knowing he was under investigation would not have allowed him to do much about it, and, in fact, if anything, Ross would have incurred greater risk in providing information that would have prompted Carlson to commit suicide as he did.  Certainly Ross wasn’t intending to do that either.  Hopefully Ross informed the investigators that he was going to speak to Carlson either before or shortly after he did so and for the reason he states.

    1.  Carlson also groomed the adults in  his life – as pedophiles often do – they “gaslight” them into thinking they don’t see that which is in front of their face.  He had them all fooled into thinking they saw nothing.

    2. What a crock.  Ross could have told Carlson he was not allowed at the jail.  He did not have to tell him why.  He warned his sick friend after he told the state police he would not.  How can he be trusted now.

  72. How victims could have been prevented if one person had said something?

    Shameful that people were afraid to come forward because of who he claimed to be.

    Always question those in power.

  73. What kills me is the patients at Penobscot Community Health Center received poor care so more money could go into this beast pocket.  Oh let’s not forget he also had a car. 

  74. The Catholic Church, Penn State, Husson and the Sheriff’s Dept.   Why are institutions so willing to overlook or actively cover up this type of behavior?   Answer:  because  the victims were boys.  There would have been immediate outrage by all if he was caught in similiar circumstances with a young girl and he would have been investigated and prosecuted decades ago.

    Yet another example of the sexism inherent in our criminal justice and social systems.

  75. I’ll never understand how people willingly go into these professions that they do, and then find out their patients is being sexually abused, and yet do nothing. Can you imagine that if someone would have said something, a lot of these victims may not have ended up victims? It’s really sad. Carlson had a lot of people fooled but I think the sickest part is there were people out there who have known, or at least had concerns, since almost the beginning. Awful.

    1. Therapists and counselors are nothing but frauds who take your money.  In the end, you have figure out your problem.  They ask questions and never give guidance.  Save your money folks and talk to a good friend instead.  They are a farce.

  76. It seems many sexual perverts use Religion as their cover to commit sexual crimes. If you read Southern Newspapers, it is the Baptist Ministers that are committing the sexual crimes in the so called Bible Belt. Most churches in the South are Baptist. Makes one really wonder about Religion and what it is really used for, besides making money and profit.

    1. Not just religious.  There are sexual predators in EVERY profession and corner of this world.  Education, Politicians, Public Servants, Entertainment industry…. it unfortunately is everywhere.  Sometimes I think there needs to be a form of justice that scares the crap out of these predators, puts them on the wrong side so they know how it feels.

      1. Most women in power work their way up that ladder in funny ways. I guess you could say they earned it.

  77. Bob Welch and the other officers of Bangor knew for “8 or 9 months” that Carlson was in the darkest part of a parking lot in the middle of the night in his car with a young child??  Did they think that they were PRAYING together???  Shame on Bangor PD…you knew better.

  78. what stood out, among everything else in the State Police report, was Sheriff Glenn Ross’s last conversation with him.  Carlson himself said to Ross, “because of Sandusky, people would have to take the matter seriously” .    There you go, he himself linked it to the Penn State mess!

    1. What jumped put at me was having to chase Beardsley for an interview and having his brother the attorney “advising” him. IMHO he was more concerned about himself and Husson then being forthcoming with the MSP and helping the investigation.

        1. In a secular country such as ours. Well the highest court in the land would be the SCOTUS. As for as law enforcement is concerned, in Maine that would be the State Police. Nationally, we have no one “supreme” law enforcement agency.

          Now if we were talking about a country like Iran say then in would be the ruling clerics that have the final say.

          If you are a religious person then you believe that you will be judged in the afterlife.

          If you do not believe in a Supreme Being then the final arbiter are what people say about you once you are gone.

          Does that answer your question “not”?

          1. We are still a Christian nation.  Our founders had Christian values.  The highest level of law enforcement is the County Sheriff.  You should know this.  Bob did.  This has nothing to do with Iran, not sure what that has to do with anything.  Since you are always promoting homosexuality, what do the Muslims believe about homosexuality?  

          2. We were NEVER a “Christian” nation.

            And I have never met ANYONE who “promoted” homosexuality.

            They have only asked for the same rights us heterosexual married couples have.

          3. RECRUITED?!?!  Yes the MARRIED man (just like Jerry Sandusky) recruited children to be victims and after every victim Carlson got a free gift certificate to the Olive Garden…..what a brilliantly inane statement for you to make.

          4. Maybe you should review the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution before you make statements about being a “Christian” nation. The Founding Fathers went to great lengths to insure one religion was no more or less important then another. If they wanted a “Christian” nation they had the chance and didn’t do it.

            I don’t consider an elected political position to be the “highest level of law enforcement”.

            I support SSM. That is a far cry from “promoting” homosexuality. Why would I promote a lifestyle that attracts bigots, hatred and murderers just because of who they decide to share a life and bed with? But I will not stand in their way either. If they wish to share their life together who are you and I to deny them that right?

          5. You obviously have no concept of government if you do not know that the highest level of law enforcement is the county sheriff.  You say you had a ‘professional” relationship with Bob.  I consider nothing about the man “professional.”  Clearly the “relationship” had nothing to do with religion.

          6. “You obviously have no concept of government if you do not know that the highest level of law enforcement is the county sheriff.”

            I have a very good concept of government and how it works. If you want to call the County Sheriff the “highest level of law enforcement” fine. It really has nothing to do with the discussion so you win.
            ~~~~~
            “You say you had a ‘professional” relationship with Bob.”

            Well at least I know you read the whole.
            ~~~~~
            “I consider nothing about the man “professional.””

            And in retrospect neither do I.
            ~~~~~
            “Clearly the “relationship” had nothing to do with
            religion.”

            Correct again.

          7. If you know anything about US Government, then surely you know that the job of the executive branch is to enforce the laws.  The executive branch would include the President.  Gee, is the president an elected political position? 

          8. And your point would be what?

            The law of the land in 1947 was a segregated military. President Truman signed an executive order that desegregated the U.S. Military. Sometimes you take a stand because because you believe an injustice is occurring and other times you do it for political gain.

            I agree with the decision that President Truman made to desegregate the military in 1947. I agree with President Obama’s decision to tell the Justice Department not to defend the DOMA in the federal court system. One was made to make a point, one was made for political gain. Both ended an injustice to our fellow citizens…maybe even a neighbor of yours.

  79. Bangor has the only homeless shelter in the state that accepts sex offenders. Maine gives instant free aid to people entering the state, even convicted child rapists. There are 4 (at last count) rooming houses in Bangor that cater to sex offenders. One is located right near the youth homeless shelter. One ex shelter employee said they would literally chase the sex offenders off the property. Someone associated with the homeless shelter told us we had no idea how bad the problem is. Sex offenders are being sent to Bangor by other states. The numbers keep growing and the city is doing NOTHING to stop it. You see, there’s big money in housing/feeding/treating sex offenders. The feds and the state pay the providers hefty sums. The more they treat, the bigger their paychecks. The city council knows this.

    1. Thank you for the information and informing the public.  Too bad the news does not report this.  Maybe now they will try to protect the children.  However, it is doubtful that they will, this is how Carlson got away with his behavior for so long.  If anyone is running for City Council, this should be their platform, instead of constantly focusing on entertainment, we should focus on protecting the children.  Carlson was a big advocate for the arena, he was always at the tournament directly under the basketball hoop so that we could all see him it is just so sick.  Clean this city up and protect our children. 

    2. carlson was a member of the board of most of these places that accept sex offenders, wonder how much influence he had in them adopting that policy these place should rethink there position on this. there was another place that had sex offenders working at it and we in the neighborhood never knew it, were’nt told, when it finally came to light the director of the place changed his policy to not allow sex offenders anymore. This facility had allowed sex offenders to work there during the day, and was adjacent to a pickup point for school buses for kids of all ages nobody was notified.

  80. If  Welch and Reid knew about this in 2004 why are they just talking to BDN about it know???  Did they do a report on this was the state police called. Why was Carlson still there chaplin for yours department.

    1. They did’nt decide to talk until the crap hit the fan, it was’nt because they had any concern for any of the victims thats for sure

        1. I did not know him personally, I just cannot imagine somebody seeing a pattern that is obviously suspicious and not following up, especially if you were a cop. The too dark for a camera line is lame, no one is being questioned by the press or anybody except Beardsly, his behavior was not the most egregious in my opinion. I think all these depts are just lying low until this all blows over.

    2. Ya, Welch and Reid did nothing.  Talk about sitting on your laurels.  They could have done more.  Instead Welch watched from his house while boys were abused for 8 or 9  months.

  81. This sounds like the mess that city hall cover up around May of 2007 with a employee at city hall.

  82. i cannot belive that PENOBSCOT COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES has COMPLETELY avoided scrutiny by this newspaper and local tv stations. not a word. at least ask them how well they vetted carlson.

  83. Beardsley said on the news tonight that no student came to him regarding Carlson yet other Husson personnel stated otherwise.  Why did he confront Carlson and Carlson resigned?  Beardsley. we now know better.  You go ahead and be a LaPuke ditto.  I do not believe you.  You have lost your credibility just like others.

  84. “Because Carlson is dead and there is no one to charge in this case, his home computer was not taken as evidence, Coleman said.” – not to second guess experienced investigators but…why wouldn’t they want to look at his computer?  Isn’t that one of the methods used in tracking child abuse/pornography rings?  His computer might provide evidence of others engaging in criminal activity involving children.  I would think they’d at least want to take a look

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