HARPSWELL, Maine — A Harpswell woman who has been ordered to get rid of an exotic species of fish is about to receive a permit to keep them under certain restrictions, but she says she is taking the issue to the Maine Supreme Judicial Court in an effort to have the restrictions lifted.
Georgette Curran of Harpswell is no question an animal person. She breeds numerous varieties of freshwater fish, which she sells to animal retailers, and has dozens of other pets. But as far as the Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife is concerned, her stock of nishiki koi poses a danger to Maine’s waterways.
Koi, which is a subspecies of carp, is classified by the department as an invasive fish that if released into a pond, lake or river, has the potential to take over and eliminate native fish species, according to Andrea Erskine, deputy commissioner of the Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife. However, Erskine said this week she is reinstating a wildlife importation and possession technical committee to study whether koi and a number of other exotic species are safe in Maine.
“There’s just a lot of concern about the risk of the fish escaping, of someone picking some up from [Curran’s] pond,” said Erskine. “We don’t want them to spread.”
Curran, who has hundreds of fish of various varieties in an elaborate aquarium setup in her home, bought her first koi about six years ago. She doesn’t know exactly how many she has, but it is at least a couple dozen, she said. In the winter, the fish live in a 900-gallon tank in her basement, and in the summer, she moves them to a 5,000-gallon pond she built outside, which is lined with plastic, isolated from any waterways and has a filter system to keep the water clean.
“A koi is a domesticated version of the common carp,” said Curran. “These fish are mutts compared to the ones in Japan. They just wouldn’t survive in the wild. It would be like throwing a chihuahua into the woods and expecting it to live. Our waters are too cold for them.”
She said she thought they were goldfish when she bought them.
“I found out later they were koi,” she said. “They hooked me and I bought the rest on eBay.”
The dispute over koi in Maine isn’t a new issue. In 2006, state fisheries agents stepped in when they discovered koi being kept in a 150-gallon aquarium at the China Rose restaurant in Freeport. The state seized the fish, but returned them when the owner of the restaurant, who said koi are thought to bring good luck in Asian cultures, received a special permit allowing the fish under the same restrictions being imposed on Curran: that the fish are kept inside, are well documented with photographs and details about each fish, and the owner agrees to periodic state inspections.
And there have been examples of koi finding their way into natural waterways. In 2008, fish biologists said they discovered a koi in Pickerel Pond in Limerick and subsequently drained part of the pond in an effort to rid it of the rest. Erskine said there also have been reports of varieties of carp found in some coastal Maine rivers.
Though Curran said she understands the concern, she said Maine’s restrictions against carp are too broad and the law should be more specific about subspecies like hers. She said her koi have never reproduced and that she’s never sold one despite their value, which can run into the hundreds or thousands of dollars. She regards them and many of her other fish as pets.
In her downstairs aquarium, Curran has an easy chair where she said she spends hours each day enjoying her fish. The koi, which recognize her and are shy with strangers, flutter their fins around her when she comes near, nibbling at her fingers and letting her pet them. There is one that will swim into her hand over and over again so she can toss it into the water with a splash.
Curran, who has high blood pressure and has lost her mother and fiance in recent years, said the time she spends with her fish — many of which have names such as Phoenix, Lemon, Spotty and Tiger — is good for her health.
“My fish mean the world to me,” she said. “They are very therapeutic and calming. Losing them would end the way I look at life. I’d be devastated. They’re my Prozac.”
Though she takes good care of her fish, including feeding them specialized food she said is available at virtually any Walmart or pet store, Curran said they need to be in her outside pond during the summer. She built the pond just for the koi at a steep cost and installed wiring over the water to prevent owls and other birds from preying on them.
“It’s not good for them to keep them in this tank,” she said. “It’s too small.”
In June, a couple months after game wardens first visited her home after learning of her koi, Curran received a written order from the DIF&W that she must transport her koi out of state. Curran appealed the order, but has not yet received a decision, so she has decided to fight the battle in court. Meanwhile, Erskine said Thursday that she was working on granting Curran a permit to keep them, but with restrictions.
Curran, who plans to represent herself in the Maine supreme court case, which has not yet been scheduled, said her goal is to make koi legal to keep in Maine. She said koi are allowed in every other state in the country. Erskine said she couldn’t confirm whether that is true, nor whether other states place restrictions on koi. She said that is one of the first aspects of keeping koi in Maine that the technical committee will research when it convenes. The committee, which hasn’t yet been named but may begin meeting by the end of the summer, also will study numerous other exotic animals that Mainers wish to own, such as wallabies, primates and other species of fish.
Erskine said it’s important to protect Maine’s natural resources, and cited northern pike that were illegally put in Long Pond in Belgrade as an example of what can happen. The pike there have driven out virtually all of the native fish in the pond.
“There are people in the public who don’t feel this is appropriate,” said Erskine. “Some think, ‘Why would we regulate on keeping cute little animals?’ But there are a fair amount of people who have concerns about whether the animals should be here.”



If only some parents took as good care of their children as this lady does with her fish!!!!
Great, just what Maine needs in its waterways, carp. Check out the efforts going on in the Midwest trying to keep carp from entering the Great Lakes. The fear level of carp there is extremely high and Maine might be wise to consider this.
So how do they get from a backyard pond not connected to any waterway, to a pond or stream in Maine? Walk? Ride a bike? Hitchhike?
Tiny little scuba gear?
The same way the y got into the Midwest, someone puts them in.
Floods, tank being destroyed, wind animals, and do-gooders that watched Free Willie too many times.
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Floods and waterfowl.
Maine has carp in the Kennebec and Androscoggin Rivers.
very different species from the silvers and fatheads that are such a problem elsewhere.
They are already in the GL’s. An electric fence failed for over two hours on the Lake Michigan border. People are literally being hit by these things while boating. Asian Carp – no natural predators.
Dumbass…Koi are NOT Asian carp. Did you even read the article?
Be very careful. Your apology is accepted in advance. I was responding to “sick”, i.e. CARP. Not Koi, although they represent the same threat to species already in the water. See any state where accidents have happened or “dumbasses” have release their “pet” fish into neighboring lakes. Nobody thought these non-native species could survive – they did/do/flourish.
First off, Carp were introduced to Maine
in 1879, in a government supported stocking program. As it turns out, most carp
introductions in Maine were unsuccessful, so one could say they weren’t really aviable threat to take over the state waters. Our winters are too harsh.
So a rule to prevent the introduction of carp is a bit like closing the barn door
after the horse has escaped.
The dispute over koi in Maine isn’t a new issue. In 2006, state fisheries agents stepped in when they discovered koi being kept in a 150-gallon aquarium at the China Rose restaurant in Freeport. The state seized the fish, but returned them when the owner of the restaurant…received a special permit allowing the fish under the same restrictions being imposed on Curran: that the fish are kept inside, are well documented with photographs and details about each fish, and the owner agrees to periodic state inspections.
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Back in 2006, the state sent an armed SWAT team to seize the koi at the Freeport China Rose. The owner had the fish for over 15 years at the time they were seized, and was unaware that Maine had implemented a law banning the species.
The fish were sent to a pet store in NH for safekeeping, and the restaurant owner had to spend about $20K for legal costs and the permits, in order to get his fish back – which took over a year. I hope the state is more reasonable in this instance.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=61791
2006 Story on Freeport Koi Confiscation.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2007/02/28/ornamental_fish_back_on_display_at_restaurant_after_legal_fight/
Owner Chong Ly finally gets his fish back — one year and $20,000 later.
It seems to me that instead of banning the fish entirely, the state could implement a permitting process, like the ones employed in keeping wild animals in Maine. Have the prospective koi owners file an application with the state, to become licensed owners; and implement a set of rules that must be followed for keeping the fish.
And, if and when something happens to this woman, her not-so-well-informed relatives say, “Well what about all these fish? Let’s just dump them into ____ (pick the waterway)!” It’s an invasive species, pet or not.
It took me all of five minuted to draft a provision in my will that pertains to my parrot and turtle, both of who will likely still be going when I pass away. It wouldn’t be hard to do the same with these beautiful koi (of which i also have), so the family would know exactly where they are supposed to go, effectively eliminating the argument that people will without doubt be irresponsible. Most likely her family would do the responsible thing, and find home(s) for them, but still having it laid out thusly would prevent such things.
And wills are always followed to the letter?
I have seen carp of many colors that interbred with goldfish in the wild in Pennsylvania.
Pa waters are more conducive for any member of the carp family….. and yes they can interbreed as the Wolf and Dog can….. and the donkey, horse and zebra.
because of the way i was raised, I followed my predeceased wishes to the letter. I don’t know about other people, but I have faith that my will will be followed carefully. Because I have prepared for it in advance.
I have no relatives….but i have a very explicit will. My pets birds, dogs and fish are all taken care of and not to be ”dumped”…. any more than your pets would be….if you have any. Let’s be real.
What if, what if, what if…..what if a drunk driver kills someone? Let’s ban all booze…hell, let’s ban the car that the drunk driver uses to kill someone. You can what if yourself to death, but it still doesn’t make it right to ban an animal kept in someone’s private residence due to what ifs.
Thank you thank you thank you……this is what I have said all along. No one would get out of bed for ”what if” they twisted an ankle getting out of bed, got hit by a car crossing the street, or even hit by lightning, or a drive by shooter. lol…..”what if” more people had COMMON SENSE like Karen. What a wonderful thought.
Correct,
And some women in western maine has a “wolf sanctuary” with unlicensed wolves that no one cares about. Bring on the Koi!
You realize….Maine is the ONLY state of the 50 that does not allow [supposedly Koi]. The rest of the world sees them as Koi. All of North America including Canada …Koi are a welcomed pet…with absolutely NO restrictions. They are allowed in ”outdoor lined closed system ponds”.
Mr. Ly’s fish were sent to NH….while there….some were SOLD. He did not get ALL his fish back.
Koi are a multi-million dollar business. DO WE NEED JOBS IN MAINE? Garden centers, landscapers would hire people to construct, maintain, supplies, water plants, and yes fish.
Yeah seriously! Just tax the sale of koi, koi food, etc. and get the state out of debt.
They never reproduced but she doesn’t know how many she has? Can’t she count?
How quickly people are to judge whether or not she should keep the kois. So its ok for others to tell us how to live, where can smoke, or drink, tell us to pay up or ship out…for how much we pay to live in this freaking dumb state, city taxes and bills, they are gonna tell us what we can or cant keep on our own property, especially in our own house that we built, and pay for? So basically if they tell you to jump off a bridge, you gonna do that? Ridicoulous. OUR life should be OUR life, not what others say how you should live and what you can or cant keep. Lighten up people, and enjoy LIFE.
Water is common property in the State of Maine, meaning we all own the water that the fish would live in should they escape. If someone is potentially damaging something i own i have a right to act to protect my own interests.
There are two sides to your comment.. common property? Then I guess she has the same option as you do. I think that she should get rid or the carp and protect the other fish. How many invasive snakes are there in sough Florida!
Air is common property too, maybe we should all stop breathing?
The water in her fish tanks and her home made pond is not common property.
We have to protect our native small mouth bass population!!!….. Ooops, sorry, I didn’t know they aren’t native. OK, let’s protect the large mouth bass population!!!!…. Dang! You mean to tell me they aren’t native either? OK let’s keep them danged alewives out of our rivers and lakes. Invasive buggers!! Ooops, sorry, I didn’t realize they are native to our waters. Hmm.
So, I was going to rant how the risk of her pets escaping and terrorizing our lakes and streams was too great, but you win. That’s a top notch post, sir!
I will agree that if the specie is hardy enough for our brutal winters….i could imagine they could over take native waters. The common carp did not do that great a job at taking over our state in 125 years….so how in the world do you think the more fragile subspecie [koi] will do it with a few that ”might maybe on the chance of be released”? Let’s be real! All the other states have no problem with koi and their being kept in lined ponds……afterall…..they are a huge money making
animal and job maker. But of course….Maine does not need revenue or jobs.
Just shows ya that it doesn’t take much for an invasive species to take hold. I believe your comment proves my point.
Very good post. I would also point out that The IFW makes millions off those invasive species instead of enacting a eradication program. That’s the motto of the IFW ” if we make money off it then it is ok by us”..
Come to Northern Maine and see what the muskie population has done to the trout population.It’s going to ruin one of the last wild trout populations left in the east.There’s a reason that there is no limit and one is not allowed to release them.
Bass have been eating trout for years.I’ve seen alot of trout waters totaly ruined by bass.
No actually you can release as many muskie as you want.
Maine has no mandatory kill fishing regulations.
Exactly right.Salmon, they have to keep stocking.With bass once the state stocks them they don’t have to restock.Its all about money with the state of Maine and bass tournaments.
The ifw is ONLY about the money…
Alewives are a native species in Maine.
I know that. I think you misread my sarcastic post.
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Asian carp are not Koi.
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koi, the pitbull of fish!
CARP….Cyprinus carpio
KOI…..Cyprinus carpio haematopterusWOLF….Canis lupusDOG…..Canis lupus familiaris
YES….they are of the carp family….but a SUB SPECIE
THANK YOU someone who knows the difference!!!
Yet the state of Maine stocks small mouth and large mouth bass.
IF&W has not stocked largemouths for decades, in any manner. IF&W has moved smallmouth from overpopulated waters to underpopulated waters to keep guides in Washington Co. happy after some low water years in the early 90’s.
I disagree with here keeping them. Though the State of Maine and Feds with PRRT are going to breech around the Howland Dam and let Northern Pike and everything else up there.
Koi, the pitbull of fish!
Even the best intentioned people can have accidents. Who introduced the central mud minnow? UMO, who released the mud puppy? Colby college.
I agree about restrictions on animals Mainers can own, but banning koi seems excessive to me.
http://www.wildcatsanctuary.org/cant-own-3-dogs-but-you-can-own-a-tiger/
Also, feel free to check out the show “Fatal Attractions”, it might be an eye opener for people who want to own actual exotic pets. I don’t consider koi to be exotic pets and even considered keeping some myself, if it weren’t for the prohibitive cost. Koi are quite lovely to watch and feed. And watching any kind of aquarium has been proven to lower blood pressure, so too has the purr of a cat.
I hope she gets to keep her investment.
Let her have her kOI…..good grief….they are well taken care of and they are her pets…..
Yea tree huggers should be allowed to do as they want. She broke the law and should be arrested… whats wrong with you people. You think that the special people need not obey the laws.. yet you would yell for the arrest of a pot grower.. good grief . Get a life
Did I break the ”law”? Maine has noooo KOI laws. I am being refused a permit….using CARP laws. How would you like being refused a ”DOG LICENSE”….. because WOLVES cannot be licensed and must be microchipped, in totally secured fences, muzzled, etc.????
Please …..Educate yourself before you put ”your foot in your mouth”.
Very nicely said. Banning koi because they “might” get into the waterways is like banning having children because they “might” be abused.
They should be put down in incinerated.. It is dangerous to maine water.
You realize…. Common Carp were stocked in late 1800’s in 15 of the 16 counties in Maine. If they are such prolific spawners….. where are they? On the Maine DIF/W website…. history of how a pond and lake were ‘stocked’ with carp and they failed to thrive. This is the wild Common Carp. They are much hardier than their subspecie the Koi.
Carp were stocked from the east coast to the west coast in the late 1800’s…. from trains. AS the trains pasted over tressels….they would ”dump” carp in the waterways. We have a small population in the Kennebec river. Why? Our waters are way TOO COLD in the winters. They did populate in the warmer central states. Keep in mind…. CARP CARP…..not Koi.
CARP….Cyprinus carpio
KOI…..Cyprinus carpio haematopterus
WOLF….Canis lupus
DOG…..Canis lupus familiaris
Yes the Carp and the Koi can interbreed as can the Wolf and the Dog. They are in the same genus.
Oh I re read the headline. The courts inforce the laws, the courts cannot legalize anything.. they can find you guilty as charged.. If courts could legalize things you could buy a judge to make laws.
You have alot to say….. but not in this matter. I am going to go to Superior Court because I am being denied a Permit for my koi. [The rest of the world they are a non issue!] The state is quoting rules/regulations for COMMON CARP. I do not have COMMON CARP.
what a beautiful pond you have for them and such a shame you can not put them out there. You can get permits for wild animals like lion, tigers, etc if you secure them properly right? Can you not get a permit if the pond is inspected and has a net preventing birds from taking them? Is that not secure? By the way, they are just beautiful. Koi are in every state and have not taken over yet. If they have I am not aware of it. hmmmm
“Though Curran said she understands the concern, she said Maine’s
restrictions against carp are too broad and the law should be more
specific about subspecies like hers.”
Tell that to the fishermen at Moosehead lake where some locals decided they would like to fish for their favorite fish the white perch and introduced the species. Also the states stocking of brown trout is a big bust, yes fun to catch but taste like the bottom of a muddy river. If any stocking is done it should be native species like brookies.
Put this woman out of business. And do it NOW.
If she breeds other fish and sells them to pet shops,she has educated herself on fish. She didn’t know they were koi that’s crap even as babies they don’t look like goldfish. If she is able to keep them each fish should be implanted with a GPS tracking chip at her cost. If they walk,bike or call a taxi and escape in to our waterways at least they can be recovered, at her cost of course.
Your statement is very easy to answer. I had never owned a goldfish….ever….always tropicals and mainly livebearers. I went to a Petsmart in Mass. Saw these cute 3-4″ ‘goldfish’…..brought 4 home to put in my new little pond i had just put together from a kit I purchased on ebay. I already had a dozen ”feeder” goldfish in there. These little creatures became so tame….following me around the pond, rubbing up against my hands as I worked on water plants. And yes I was hooked [line and sinker].
GPS? That’s complete BS. If Maine really wanted to stop environmental disasters, they’d require GPS and mandatory kill on site orders for the common house cat. Owners should be required to keep all cats indoors at all times and any seen outside should be shot on sight. Cats ruin any environment by killing anything and everything and there are millions upon millions of cats and yet the F&W are spending money to harass this women over a few koi kept in her private residence. Complete BS.
I think they’ll regret this decision
Please arrest this selfish women today.
I’ve lived in several states that not only allow but encourage koi (Florida, New Jersey, New Hampshire) and have never seen one in the wild. They are not strong enough to survive against native fish and conditions and need a huge breeding population to continue after one generation. Anyone who has owned koi know that they need just the right conditions. I have a pond with filters, uv lights, plants, dechlorinators, etc. and I still lose fish.
In Florida and New Jersey, there are huge nurseries (Waterford Gardens, Dearborn Farms, etc.) that just cater to pond owners. It’s a massive market that brings millions to the states.
And how you call them ‘the pitbull of fish’ I don’t understand at all. If you put even a mildly aggressive fish in with them ALL of your koi will die! I have a friend who put little shiners in his pond and they picked at the kois tails until they couldn’t swim anymore.
This is a lot of controversy over nothing. The ornamental Koi she has cannot survive thru a winter. You could populate a pond with a thousand of them and the next spring they would all be dead. And that’s if there were any left in the fall after they all got picked off by every predator in the state. I know this because our pond used to have colorful carp in it. It was repeatedly stocked and restocked with them over several years and the conditions were perfect for their survival. They simply cannot survive the cold and are so colorful that birds, coons etc pick them off easy. The people up the street went thru the same thing we did with their pond.