NEW ALBANY, Ind. — Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday when a woman is impregnated during a rape, “it’s something God intended.”
Mourdock was asked during the final minutes of a debate whether abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest.
He replied: “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that’s something God intended to happen.”
Mourdock and Democratic challenger Joe Donnelly have been in a tight race since Mourdock unseated veteran U.S. Sen. Richard Lugar in May’s Republican primary. Mourdock’s comments come two months after embattled GOP Missouri Senate candidate Rep. Todd Akin said during a television interview that women’s bodies have ways of preventing pregnancy in cases of what he called “legitimate rape.”
In response to Mourdock’s comment, Donnelly said after the debate that he doesn’t believe “my God, or any God, would intend that to happen.”
Mourdock explained after the debate he did not believe God intended the rape, but that God is the only one who can create life.
“Are you trying to suggest somehow that God preordained rape, no I don’t think that,” Mourdock said. “Anyone who would suggest that is just sick and twisted. No, that’s not even close to what I said.”
It was not clear what effect, if any, the comment might have on Mourdock’s campaign in the final two weeks before the Nov. 6 election. Akin has repeatedly apologized but has refused to leave his state’s U.S. Senate race despite calls to do so by leaders of his own party, from GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney on down.
Lord help us all if this wingnut is elected.
Sadly, nearly his entire party is saying the same kinds of things. They’re all nuts who are bringing nothing but shame to America. This new American Taliban must be stopped. Vote a straight Democratic ticket on November 6th!
Paul Ryan has consistently supported laws that would force women to carry and give birth to the offspring of their rapists.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-22/ryan-opposition-to-abortion-consistent-with-akin-s-no-exceptions.html
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The Romney team has made Ryan tone this down lately, because they realize now how much opposition there is to this extremist view, but he is on the record on this one.
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Mitt Romney’s most important decision as a candidate was to pick the person whom be believes is the most qualified person in the entire nation to be one heartbeat away from becoming president.
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Romney’s 1st choice is someone who would have the government force a 12 year old girl violently raped by her father to give birth t her own sibling.
Wow, I didn’t know that about Ryan; that’s terrible. I don’t much care for either candidate for president, but this really nails down my choice.
Mike Michaud has always been PRO-LIFE.
Lots of people are pro-life but realize that the woman’s life is at least equal to the fetus’ life. The decision to impregnate should not be made by a violent attacker. The decision to maintain a pregnancy created unwillingly and violently should not be made by anyone other than the pregnant woman with the advice, counsel, knowledge and understanding (not superstition) of people she trusts.
Letting the woman decide, within reasonable limits (ie no abortion if the fetus can survive outside of the woman’s womb), does not mean she is anti-life.
Bet he doesn’t think GOD has a role in a rape.
Yes, and despite being a lifelong capital-D Democrat I have never once cast a vote for Mike Michaud, and I never will, for exactly that reason. But Michaud would never say anything as nutso as “legitimately raped women don’t get pregnant” or that babies conceived in rape are “something God intended.” He’s pro-life, but he’s not a monster about it like Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock are.
… and, Paul Ryan lest we forget!
I contacted Michaud about a women’s rights issue and I got back some prefab campaign blather about how “he returns to Maine almost every weekend.”No answer to my question.
There is zero chance that a Romney administration will introduce legislation to outlaw abortion. Nor will the Supreme Court overturn Roe v. Wade, no matter who gets added to the court. So while the morality of abortion is a meaningful topic for discussion among thinking Americans, it is not very meaningful as a political issue. The Democrats need it though because it’s all they got.
the right-wing faction of the republican party has introduced over 100 pieces of legislation in regards to women’s health and our heath choices. Don’t try to sweep it under the rug.
and yet Bowdoin, Romney has publicly, and with out hesitation, said on numerous equation he wants to eliminate Roe V Wade. YUP he has said it out right . Have you read the Republican platform on this issue? You should It out laws abortion in ALL circumstances EVEN in the case of rape incest and the life of the mother.HMM why do you suppose they put that in their party platform ? Were they just kidding around”?OR do they actually believe all abortions should be banned? BOY that is turning the clock back 40 years , on women
SO I’d say you are wrong … and the right has been trying to do exactly that thru out the US, state by state since 2010. The court, fortunately, just found AGAINST their law to defund Planned parenthood .They have also found against their voter ID laws and a lot more. This is a lawless crew that was put in in 2010, who are totally disconnected from the people , the constitution, and reality
.And if you believe they have no intention of banning abortiiin or ROE vs wade you haven’t been paying attention or you hope others aren’t.
Also note that in the case of political views, those of the “right” does not necessarily denote correct. In fact, it’s more likely the opposite.
Keep in mind that Romney changes his story daily to cater to whoever he is kissing up to at the time. The man has no honor or convictions.
I’ve been told that before, Romney only saying that to get votes. As I see it Romney’s a pathological liar.
I agree. During the first six years of the Bush administration with total control of Congress, an aggressive attorney general and a friendly Supreme Court, Republicans did nothing.
Why would they end the dispute over Roe v Wade when it guarantees them millions of consistent single-issue pro-life votes in every election from dog catcher to president?
That fact that Roe v Wade wasn’t directly addressed between the years 2001-2009 doesn’t mean that any future Republican administration will do the same. And we all see the trend in the Republican party-going to religious extremes these past few years.
While most politicians are just that – willing to say what is needed to win election, some of these dudes are drop dead serious. If Americans give them enough power, they will take it and run.
Democrats are NOT the ones pushing this issue! Just in the past few years Republicans at all levels of government have crafted HUNDREDS of pieces of legislation attempting to limit or ban abortion – and in some cases, even contraception (see: “Personhood Amendments”).
Yet, as others on this thread and elsewhere have noted, Republicans, when they get the chance (i.e, favorable Congress, White House, Supreme Court, etc.), never really seem to pull the trigger in ending the legality of abortion in America. Ever ask yourself why? It’s because THEY are the ones who need to keep this issue alive; it’s the red meat they serve up to their base to keep them coming to the polls. Abortion legislation on the ballot is a sure-fire way to get Republicans to the voting booth, and the GOP knows it. But if Roe v Wade were ever overturned, they would have “won” the battle and subsequently lost one of the most successful tools they have for motivating their members.
So, say and think what you want, but you can’t lay this one on Democrats. All evidence points to the GOP as the party that will not let the abortion issue go.
You know that’s not true.Zero chance?Are you privy to the SCOTUS internal debates?
Bowdoin is privy to only one thing: the privy. And from his posts, I’d say he spends far too much time in there.
That’s exactly why I used that word.Thanks for noticing.Unfortunately we’re now stuck with NRS -another R lackey who wouldn’t give a D credit for saving someone from a fire nor would blame the R’s for starting it.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……………………………..
Unlike Dickens’ character, your expectations cannot be counted as “great”.
I’d give R&R’s actions as 95+% likely.
There is a very good chance that whoever is our next President will appoint 2 Justices to the Supreme Court. In the case of the Repubs, this would give them control to change the ruling on abortion.
WRONG!
Then prove it for us, really.
Ryan acknowledged to reporters that he had phoned Akin this week to encourage him to drop his bid. He said he had “no plans” to talk to Akin again. “He’s going to run his campaign, we’re going to run ours.
There is plenty of dark money being dumped into Akin’s race-just weeks after R’s all said what a terrible guy he was.
Even the far left Huffy Post today reports that Romney/Ryan DO NOT support the Mourdock
foolishness. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/mitt-romney-richard-mourdock_n_2007559.html
Try and keep up will ya. ;+)
So do you deny Ryan’s plan and what it says about rape etc?
I see your reply be;low to sally. So Ryan talks out of both sides of his mouth like Romney. Neither can be believed. Do try and keep up!
He’s a polititian isn’t he. There are plenty of lies for everybody. I see Barry Soetoro’s
lies on Benghazi are coming back to bite him today. The Lybian “cover-up” ought
to just about ruin his chances of getting re-elected.
A little cranky today are we? ;+))
No, not cranky. Being a “politician” is a lame excuse. That is why we are in the shape we are in. I don’t care what side of the aisle a person sits on making these kind of comments. (Ryan and) Romney will say ANYTHING to get elected.
So back on topic about Mourdock………….. when are the Republicans as a party going to denounce this kind of ieadlogy that is ruining their party?
So crank on and defend the lunatic fringe of your party…..!
It is not MY job to defend this whack job. I think he is nuts. But you act like EVERYBODY
that is a republican supports this guy. Not so. The “party” does not and can not control
how that PAC money is distributed. Romney and Ryan have both denounced this guy and moved on. You want to hear about it every day. There are other things way more important than
a couple of whackos in Missouri or Illinois.
There are plenty of liars to go around on both sides and check right in our neighborhood
for plenty of nut jobs…………….on either side.
Agree with everything you just said. but the party platform and agenda says differently. As human beings both parties need to stand up and separate themselves from the franatic fringes.
Read. Indiana.
Considering how close the Senate is a couple of whackos could make all the difference.Americans HAVE to stand up and put these dbags back under their rocks.
BTW……..all religion is based on fear, ignorance, & ego. Praying is like a rocking chair.
Gives you something to do but really doesn’t get you anywhere. NOW, you know where I stand
Ryan is a Catholic. His beliefs are based on that. That is his choice. It was fine for John Kennedy
and we all have the same freedom. That will not sway my vote one way or the other.
For a lot of people it will sway their vote. Sad. Guess we are not any smarter in this country than people who live in a government ruled by their religion.
We’re just barely hanging on against the slime like Richard Land,Tony Perkins and the $Millions they have and the sheep that do anything they say.
We’re still waiting…
UPDATE: 1:00 p.m. — Ryan said Wednesday that he is “comfortable” with Romney’s exception to abortions in the case of rape or incest, according to the Washington Post.
“Mitt Romney’s going to be the president. The president sets the policy,” Ryan told reporters aboard his campaign plane en route to Raleigh, N.C. “His policy is exceptions for rape, incest and the life of the mother. I’m comfortable with it because it’s a good step in the right direction. I’ll leave it at that.”
If so, he can flip-flop just as well as Romney. He’ll probably be excommunicated.
” A good step in the right direction” is for every sane person to make sure those guys never get near the WH.Vote D and save the country from the Akins and Mourdocks!
Just another example of a Republican party gone off the rails.
It is hard to see how any rational person, regardless of previous party affiliation and regardless of what church you attend, can vote for a candidate like this.
Voting straight Democratic in this election might be the best thing you can do for the Republicans as well — as it might restore them to their senses.
Just another BDN anti-republican hit piece. Scary .. ..
Well they have this garbage flowing out of their mouths.
If the Republicans don’t want to have the stupidity of their candidates published in the press they need to find candidates who aren’t as far out in right-wing lala land. Taking a swipe at the BDN over this article means you understand how ridiculous the Republican position on abortion is but don’t have the gumption to admit it.
Mourdock and Akin too ought to be put in the big house and share a cell with Bubba for a few days. Then let us see what they have to say about God and rape.
Really, the BDN went out to Indiana and made this guy say that on live TV? Wow! I did not realize how powerful the BDN is!
Yep, you nailed it…just another case of the left-wing media trashing the right. Like these wacky socialists…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/23/god-at-work-when-rape-leads-to-pregnancy-indiana-republican-senate-candidate/?test=latestnews
Thanks for the link. Republicans are “split” on Mourdock’s association of god with rape.
That says it all.
The story was reported through the Associated Press. How is it a “hit piece” to accurately report something a candidate for national office said during a public electoral debate?!?
It’s telling that your beef is with the paper for reporting this and not with the actual comment about such pregnancies being “God’s work.”
Note well it’s from AP. Check out the video on their news site.
Sure, Frankie. ’cause everyone knows how upstanding, honest, and admirable repugnantcans are these days.
If this is a “hit piece” on a poor widdle wepublican, you need to insist that nothing ever be reported about them, because everything they do and say is totally ignorant and embarrassing, so reporting on any of it could be perceived as a “hit piece.” I guess you prefer not knowing anything, really, about what your “representatives” are thinking and doing.
Did any of the reporters get arrested for holding a gun on this nut to get him to say what he did? The answer is no he just repeated what the majority of the Republican party feels and will outlaw abortion as soon as they gain access to the white house.
Where are they getting all these dim-witted dinosaurs? The teapuplican gene pool couldn’t produce an intelligent candidate if it tried.
Reclaim Maine Vote Democrat 2012 + Save the USA Vote Democrat 2012
that”s what I thought too but this guy is young!!! Can’t blame it on being feeble minded or “old school” .
And, let’s not forget, mainegal17, Charlie Summer is a teapolitician, too … don’t let him have a sniff at the Senate!
Can you provide us with the link that you used to find where almost all republicans are saying the same thing as this man? I’m pretty sure he is in the minority with this opinion. Or can I say almost all democrats are saying and doing the same thing as Mark Clayton?
http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2012/10/23/politics/the-nations-worst-candidate-democrat-from-tennessee-might-have-title/
Here’s a couple of real winners who have said stupid things about abortion: Todd Akin R-MO, Joe Walsh R-IL,
Use your search engine try: ” 2012 republican platform ” or “anti- abortion bills ” There is none so blind as those who will not see.
Thank you. The blanket claims of “R’s bad, D’s good” get really old.
As do enumerable R claims on these and other matters. Their blankets are full of holes.
What about Scott Desjarlais?Another R “do as I say,not as I do”.His story was ignored by the media.
I believe that it was about 20 years ago when I watched a political talk show where an evangelical layed out their plans to gain power in the US. This guy said that they plan to begin at the grass roots of elected positions, everything from dog catcher, school board, town council, etc. They seem to have succeded in taking over the Republican Party. Murdock and Akin are not the only ones.
You are absolutely right.Even things like charter schools have been twisted by these clowns.How awful is it to be a woman in any southern state right now?BEWARE!
If you haven’t read the book of the same name,I highly recommend it!
Not his entire party…but enough of the Party’s leadership to make some people think so.
When will political candidates learn that they can’t win if they proclaim the existence of God and believe that life comes from God. Anyone with those beliefs must be a wingnut as kcjonez so eloquently stated. It’s a wonder that such Democratic party giants as Hubert Humphrey and Ed Muskie rose to the stature that they did despite their pro-life beliefs. Wingnuts!
you just contradicted your prioir post claiming “of course the Right doesn’t plan to ban abortion.” who are you trying to fool?
My goodness, prettyfoolish, you have no sense of irony, do you?
I do think there is zero chance of banning abortion, no matter who wins elections.
The American people do think there is a huge privacy issue involved.
However, the Democrat party has traveled very far from the day when it revered politicians like Humphrey and Muskie, both of whom abhored abortion, for religious reasons.
Now a politician can’t even proclaim a belief that all life comes from God without being called a wingnut.
I think it’s the “rape is part of god’s plan” part that gets people upset. Do you think that rape is part of god’s plan, and if so, why are you such a big fan of him/her/it?
Actually it really IS the possibility of turning the clock on women’s rights that has people upset. This guy was just stupid enough to put it in it’s crassest form. I also liked the old geezer running for office who said : ” the best way to prevent pregnancy was putting the birth control pull between their knees” ( chuckle chuckle) crack.
seriously—- THIS is the NEW R party ?? Anyone with an R beside their name should be embarrassed to death. Heck everyone else is!
No, they’re not. You’re just making stuff up, as per usual.
Saying there is no chance of it passing and the R party isn’t promoting it is 2 different things. It”s in the R platform for goodness sakes . Did they just put it in there for effect and votes ?? YES you and every republican should be embarrasssed it is in there, in 2012!!!
PS it HAS passed in numerous states since 2010…so much for “fat chance of it passing ” Ryan proposed the same thing on the HOUSE floor. IT passed!!
There IS, tough, 100% chance in many parts of this country of making abortions harder to almost impossible to obtain. Whether it’s a mandatory waiting period (because the poor little lady needs to think long and hard about what she’s done) to an invasive ultrasound (let’s stick something else up there to humiliate her even more), these policies are 100% designed to do the next best thing to a complete ban on abortion.
You are correct that we won’t stop abortion in this or other countries. Of course the abortions will be conducted much like they were in the days before Roe v Wade. The poor or those without good connections will have abortions. Those with money and connections will have ‘Female Problems’ that will be taken care of in a nice sterile hospital setting with a D&C procedure.
Perhaps the “wingnut” comment was due to the Mourdock’s comment? I mean, really, if a woman is raped and the becomes pregnant that is God’s work? Is Mourdock saying, then, that that rape was God’s will?
Then again, if it were a legitimate rape, then the woman wouldn’t become pregnant, so I guess it’s a moot point. ~eye roll~
It’s easy to see that he meant a life thus begun is a creation of God, which it would have to be if one believes that all life comes from God.
But it’s more fun to say he meant rape comes from God.
Look, the guy was unbelievably foolish to say what he said.
But the spin that he thinks rape comes from God is equally foolish.
As long as politicians are drawn from the ranks of human beings, each will say something foolish over the course of a career. That includes Ds and Rs and Is.
But the Rs are naive enough to think they can get away with it.
Plenty of Christians from all parties have run before. But only a few as baseless zealots like Akin and Mourdoch.
I do believe the Liberal view would be, she must have deserved it, instead of it was part of Gods plan.
That makes absolutley no sense at all!
You apparently don’t talk to many liberals.
And you do?
My handle should make it pretty clear that yes, I do. Quite often.
Yes, that doesn’t make sense. Can you elaborate?
Another one bites the dust. With this kind of NUT job running around there is bound to be more people allergic to nuts. Bye Bye Repubs. Whether you believe in the LORD or not i don’t think even he can save us from them. Only the sacred voter can do this.
God allows evil to happen, because he allows humans to act with free will. He will judge all acts of evil with his justice. God does not intend evil, however. If he did, that would mean that God can be the cause of sin. But since God is perfect, and he detests sin, his being a cause of sin would not be possible.
Who informed you that God was perfect?
His dog.
Hey! Leave the poor dogs out of it, Tyke. They may be the only hope we have left.
Lassie for president!!
I see no reason for you to insult dogs.
Really ?
God allows humans to act with free will. So a 10 year old child who is raped has to suffer the consequences of god permitting evil to happen? What kind of perverse god is this that would permit such a thing to happen. Or perhaps the rape of a baby less than a year old is just more of god permitting evil to happen? He detests sin but permits children to be victims. How sad. Oh by they way, since he allows freedom to happn he is responsible for that sin. That would be no different to me permitting my 3 year old grandchild to play with guns and then not being responsible when she shoots someone.
This freewill and redemption crap is just a way to try to justify bad behavior.
HOW many “fallen” religious leader have then cried at the pulpit ” I am imperfect, God forgive me ” And then exploited their bad behavior all over the airways , as if to exult it ( and approve it and condone it ) Really quite disgusting and pathetic. Criminals in jail do the same thing when they say they have “found GOD”.
And still they fall for it, over and over again, prettyfoolish. It takes a real stone brain to not catch on after the 5th or 6th time. No wonder PT Barnum was such as success…a sucker born every minute. These phony preachers and pastors sure know how to dish out the right words and have whole flocks sucking it up and waiting to be fleeced. It’s hard to have any respect for dumb flockers.
Exhibit A of many-Charles Colson.A slimeball from beginning to end.And those shakedown artists usually get MORE money from the dupes while they’re crying all the way to the bank!
And I’m sure you believe God talks to you and tells you all these things. That’s the same delusion that leads this Mourdock fellow to say things like that. That’s the same delusion that leads a Taliban male to shoot a young girl in the head because she wants an education.
One more Rightwing Nut showing his true colors and intelligence.
http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2012/10/23/politics/the-nations-worst-candidate-democrat-from-tennessee-might-have-title/
There’s an exception to every rule, but the GOP seem to have more then their share of wackcos.
And ones with no mouth-filter. They say exactly what’s on their minds, they hear everybody groan or shout them down, and they ask, “Huh? What did I say? Don’t YOU all believe this, too?” No, genius, we don’t…but thank you for telling me *you* do before I pull the lever.
Ha! Thanks for sharing that! I agree with searoses-this guy seems like one of the few exceptions. We can list many Republicans who are like Mourdock and I am sure it’d be much longer than the list of Democrats like Mark Clayton.
I’m sure you do “think” that, since you seem fond of convenient assumptions.
Thanks, Naran, for making this personal! You’re a dear!
It has followed us to BDN!
Blech. ‘Nuff said.
More like yuck.
Kindergarten. Yeah.
Speaking of “convenient” assumptions …
Is this a statement against Christianity or the GOP?
I would say it applies to both. These people are on a dangerous path.
I think this guy is a statement against both.
Holy moly, another goof! Where do these guys come from?
twist a sound bite enough and you will get it to sound like what you want it to mean. read the last part of the article and the headline gets negated,but don’t let that stop the criticism from the nut gallery,er,peanut gallery.
Whatever. It’s some ignorant guy trying to say something extreme, but then also be able to have an excuse to not be accountable for that extreme thing. God is at work, but he’s not at work? Whatever.
any attempt to justify what this man said is disgusting.
The last part of the article is an after the fact attempt to spin the words that were already spoken and recorded.
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What was originally said did not contain any of that spin and was not influenced by professional candidate groomers telling this man what to say. Like Romney’s 47% nastiness, the part that was spoken from the heart without the extra couching tells us exactly where the man’s true beliefs lie.
Here is the EXACT quote:
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Life is that gift from God, and even when life begins
in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God
intended to happen.”
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Regardless of how much he tries to change the clear meaning of what he said, he cannot un-ring that bell.
to explain what you meant after a statement is made is pretty common today.i hear it almost daily from the White house. I would go so far as to say the story we got didn’t give us the whole context.Yes it sounds pretty ignorant to say god has any thing to do with rape, but many years ago,when my young daughter died in a tragic accident,the only comfort we eventually found was when we put our sorrow in the hands of god and realized that there are things that happen that we do not understand and have no control over.The other option was to go through life angry and bitter over our loss until it destroyed us.Yes god does have a hand in all things,whether by design or by allowing things to happen. i happen to think abortion is a decision made between a woman and her doctor, but to think this guy is an evil troll for a sound bite like this is just jumping on someone who has different political views in general.
Different political views? Really? Whether you believe in god or not rape is a crime and to compare the pregnancy as a gift from god as a result from rape is asinine. Calling on god in any political comment is willing to say that god is on my side so I must be right. NOT.
I am truly sorry for your loss of your young daughter. It is good to hear that in God you found a tool you could use to let go of your anger and pain. I don’t think Mourdock meant God approved of the rape, but I do think he believes his religious beliefs trump another person’s right to decide what to do with their own body. That is the part that scares me.
Exactly.
good to see you Tyke!
He is a whack job and you will find most republicans will distance themselves from ANY
of that foolishness. Glad to see you made it here. Looks like PPH “comments” is almost
non-existant. Since I have been in Skowhegan for the last several years it the BDN should
be my choice anyway. Have a nice day.
The his fellow republicans need to speak out but they won’t because of power and control in Congress.
And by the way the PPH is going to suffer big time with their new format.
This “fellow Republican” thinks he’s offensive, and he should withdraw from the race. So do many other Republicans.
What now? Sorry to bust your bubble.
You’re right about both.I’ve already canceled my PPH subscription.
It’s called doing damage control yank –R’s do it all the time: “Oops I didn’t mean THAT to slip out. I usually say it in code like ” I embrace family values” I shouldn’t have been so honest and direct about my stand on abortion. “I meant it I just didn’t mean to say it out loud.”
good to see you too pf!
Or saying it in private at a $50K a plate dinner.The person who recorded that is a true American hero!Instead he’ll probably end up in a ditch like Karen Silkwood.
Well folks, there’s today’s TeaPublicans for you. Wild eyed. Ultra radical. Ultra extreme. Just plain off the beam. And it is not just this guy. It is their party base and base leadership. Their standard bearers are the likes of Rush Limpmind, Twister Sister Coulter, BatJob Bachman, Failin’ Palin, and the rest of the clown parade. The rational GOP of Lincoln, TR, Ike, Rockefeller, and Cohen is dead and buried. Say you are moderate now, and the GOP base brands you a RINO (Republican In Name Only) and swears alligiance to defeat you. This is the party of the Koch Brothers and ALEC with one mission in life: to do whatever is good for the mansion owners at the total expense of the middle class. And here at home we have Paul LeBUFFOON carrying the TeaRadical banner. Folks, we need to restore reason to society and government at every level and wherever needed. That means VOTE DEMOCRATIC and send these TeaRadicals packing. PS: The Indiana GOP TeaRadical base turned out Dick Lugar for this rabid radical. SAD.
Yea, and when Weiner sends photos of his junk to some girl, Clinton has sex with an aid in the oval office should the party on the right say as you do ” Well folks, there’s today’s [Democrat] for you.”? Your comment displays your intelligence.
If the Democratic Party has introduced dozens of bills in the U.S house related to taking a picture of your junk, then this would be a good comparison. However, in the real world, its not….at all.
All people do stupid things, the problem with this stupid thing is, that he wants to stop abortion in cases of rape, that hurts others. What Clinton, Weiner, and many on the GOP side have done, did nothing but hurt themselves and their families. Shame on you for comparing the two!
Kudos, Searoses!!
I hate to point out those were personal decision ( stupid ones , but personal ones)that had NOTHING to do with a policy against women’s rights.
Clinton sex with an aid or Bush taking us to two wars… gee tough choice
Clinton sex instead of keeping us out of two wars. Even easier choice.
Are you advocating FOR the wars?
Hardly
Phew! Many times on here the right have used Bill’s indiscretions and his fibbing about them (man if I was married to Hillary I would tell God himself that “I didn’t have sex with that woman”!) in direct comparisson the “W”s rush to war as to who was the worse president. Bill never (nor did his “humidor”) ever send young men and women to die in a war for oil and corporate greed (remember the “W” cabinent was full of “oil men” and Cheney’s company made BILLION$!).
To the right adultery is tantamount to killing thousands of Americans and the deaths or over an estimated 100,ooo innocent Iraq civilians….
I’m really sick of the “Your guy did something bad so it’s okay if my guy does something bad” excuse.
You Tea Partiers use it all the time – just like you’re using it now to defend this jerk’s disgusting comments.
Your Tea party candidate’s statement was repulsive and decent people should condemn it.
Instead you justify this kind of poison with the “everybody does it” nonsense.
Shame on you.
Sure those were bad things to do, but at most they involved a handful of people. There is a difference between that and passing laws that will affect thousands or perhaps millions of people.
Exactly. I’m beginning to think the Dems hand out double-vision goggles with the party membership cards.
Better than the blindfolds handed out with the R cards (not even Rose colored, except for their Party hogwash).
Naran one had nothing to do with the other, I can’t believe you are defending this man. You give women a bad name.
Great point.If anything R women are worse than R men.They are selling out their gender and everything else.
I love how one guy spouts off his personal views and he gets pounded from the left how “all Republicans” do this and “all Republicans” do that. Most dems, not all, are really good at dishing it out but not very good at taking it. Most of them just make me want to vomit to be perfectly honest. Most.
As the Rs hand out blinders, Naran?
Speaking of …
The Democratic party drove Weiner to resign in the wake of his scandal.
The Republican party, by contrast, supported David Vitter when he chose not to resign after it was revealed that he hired prostitutes (one of whom claimed the Senator from Louisiana likes to wear diapers for sexual thrills.)
I would not say that God is at work when a women is raped. More likely the other guy…
Good one, so, if you believe in God and you believe in Satan, do you believe Satan has the power to create life? So if Satan caused the rape, did Satan create the life? Or was that God?
These questions are too hard.
Better to declare that the product of a rape is not a life.
Unless the woman decides to keep the pregnancy.
Then it’s a life.
Because she wants it to be.
That’s a lot of power for a human being to have.
All that said, I do not want to see abortion banned because I think the privacy issues are paramount. The spectacle of the state investigating women and doctors for suspected abortions, like the DEA investigates drug activity, is something we don’t need in a free country.
Is this guy from Kookoomo, IN?
Has to be.
I swear, every time I think the Democratic Party is filled with some crazies, the Republican Party outdoes them.
D’s never say crazy stuff like this.If they thought that way,they’d be R’s.
LOL – You just ignore our Vice President Biden ?
you’re comparing what Biden says to these wing nuts….keep drinking the kool-aid…
If men could get pregnant, these issues would be off limits. It’s still brought up ad nauseum because women are still seen as less than men. Abortion “allowed”? It is the woman’s body, not the government’s. Butt out, and stay out.
Repeat after me: “there is no war on women.”
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I know this because I read it in these comments often. The usual suspects come along and do their darnedest to absolve the Republican leadership from the repression of women contaned in the anti women policies they have proposed.
if men could get pregnant, abortion clinics would be like Dunkin’ Donuts – one on every corner – and birth control would be covered under all health insurance plans.
No, they would just take the morning after pill with their morning coffee and no pregnancies would occur.
ha! lol – too true!
wtf is wrong with these people?
Just disgusting and vile.
“Are you trying to suggest somehow that God preordained rape, no I don’t
think that,” Mourdock said. “Anyone who would suggest that is just sick
and twisted. No, that’s not even close to what I said.”
Mourdock wasn’t talking about the rape, he was talking about the resulting LIFE. Children are a blessing- and they can come from wonderful and terrible scenarios.
Mourdock was entirely ignoring the package that “life” resides in for 9 months. That package of flesh, blood, and bone is called a girl or woman.
If an egg fertilized by rape is promptly removed from the barely-pubescent child or woman’s body, she can start to heal from the rape.
If she is forced to incubate it to satisfy someone else’s religious views, she is being put through an experience that can devastate her and her family. Not every collection of a few thousand cells is a “blessing.”
Sometimes I think men like Mourdock get rush out of forcing a female they don’t even know to bear a child against her will–sort of like having a shot at raping her himself.
That’s the best analysis yet on this creep.I was saddened when Lugar(who was one of the smartest R’s out there on foreign policy)was defeated by this clown.Hopefully everyone will donate to his opponent and America will recover.We need to wipe him,Akin,DeMint and everyone like them off the ballot once and for all.
Bull. If one believes that God intended for a woman to become pregnant from rape then it follows that the rape was also intended because the rape has to occur for that pregnancy to happen to begin with.
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You can to to spin that vile thought any way you wish, but you cannot escape the simple fact that this man does not see pregnant women as anything more than baby incubators with no personal rights regardless of how or by whom that zygote became fertilized.
His exact words:
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“Life is that gift from God, and even when life begins
in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God
intended to happen.”
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The meaning is clear and obvious and he did not try to change that meaning until someone pointed out how vile his words were and he realized he had shown his true beliefs when he should have hidden them if he really wants to be elected.
Children can be a blessing when you want them. Do you really think a 12 year old girl being forced to give birth to the child of her rapist is a blessing? When are people like you going to understand that the actual born human being is as wonderful and deserving as an zygot or embyro? Why would you even consider putting a child or any person though such an horrendous ordeal. It’s simply beyond my understanding.
UH mourdock that is exactly what you said UNTIL your handlers gasped And yeah you are sick and twisted. AND dishonest to boot.
Golly – how nice you are, to make such personal attacks on someone just expressing their own opinion. Nice job.
You know you are not the moderator here.
What if you are a person that was conceived as a result of a rape? Should my mother aborted me? Is my life worthless? Should I hide in closet and feel shame?
Thank you to my brave mother who allowed me to be born. After reading all these cruel comments I now know why my mother did not tell anyone (other than her immediate family) how I came to be./
,,, and CHOICE means she had the right to do that if she chose to.
These comments are not cruel.Cruelty is this clown deciding he’s God and that he knows more than the rest of us.
“What if you are a person that was conceived as a result of a rape?” “This is one of the absurd statements we hear now and then. “What if you were the one who was aborted, how would you feel?” Frankly I wouldn’t feel anything because I would never have been born. Your mother made a choice, a choice that these right-wing extremists want to take away. A choice only she had a right to make, not me, not her doctor, not some asinine politician.
Your mom had the choice to decide unless it was before 1970 then she didn’t have a legal choice. Point being noone is being cruel they are stating a woman should have the right to choose. Now let’s say your wife gets raped and is pregnant from that rape. How do you think the relationship will survive having the baby? Most husbands would stand by their wife however there will always be that gene inside that kid that most men will detest. I am not ashamed to admit I would want my wife to abort it because frankly I wouldn’t want any part of that kid.
I would support my wife’s choice – one way or the other- because it is her choice. Not mine or anyone else’s choice.
That was your mother’s choice. And THAT is the point.
It’s interesting – you make a strong argument for CHOICE without even realizing it!
If I were a GOP strategist, I’d order all candidates to either stay away from the media or tape their mouths shut until November 6. Just when you thought the GOP couldn’t get any nuttier…
Speaking of which – have you noticed how uncharacteristically quiet and invisible LePage has been lately?
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I think there was an intervention at the Blaine House by Raye, Summers and Courtney :)
We were enjoying the peace and quiet.I wonder if the intervention didn’t come from the national GOP now that they won’t have our $60K/year from Paulie boy.A little whisper about being hung out to dry financially in 2014 does wonders.
Most Republican candidates have distanced themselves from him because an endorsement from Lepage is the kiss of death. They forget, however, that Mainers have great memories and will be demonstrating that on Nov. 6.
Reclaim Maine Vote Democrat 2012
The State of Maine has had a Democrat problem for numerous years, so I will be voting Republican for any State positions.
As for our country, we have had a Republican problem for numerous years, so I will be voting either Democrat or Independent for any national positions. This nutjob who said babies conceived from rape has only helped make me more determined to vote against his party. We need our country and all of it’s former glory to return and I don’t see that happening with Republicans in charge of major decisions.
Summers couldn’t intervene a fart. He is losing by 30 points to an Independent. Lepage would toss him out of his office.
King has the Senate seat easily.
Another wolf in sheep’s clothing? God is watching us. Lord have mercy on us all.
Men, all men, need to shut up about this issue. It’s none of their business what a woman does after a rape. No man is going to feel what she felt so shut up about it. Shut up about rape and shut up about abortion when it’s a result of rape. Shut up about abortion when a mothers life is at risk. How dare any man tell a woman she should choose to die before harming a fetus That is the most bizarre, insane thing I have ever heard. If a woman is sexually abused by her father, brother from six to twelve and then she gets pregnant, it is not her fault and that twelv e year old girl should NOT become a mother. You senators and politicians as a whole need shut up and stay out of OUR business! Why aren’t we up in arms over these asses talking about this??
Don’t forget there are plenty of evolved men out there who appreciate and respect women and help on the side of choice.The problem is these R clowns are extremely well funded.As soon as we shut off the $$,things will get better.Bring back the RICO statutes against these guys.
Are you trying to suggest that Akin and Mourdock represent ALL Republicans?
Not unless you’re willing to admit that Charlie Rangel, the looting and dishonored guy, is the absolute representative of ALL Democrats. How about Blagojevich?
Show me where I used the word “all” -even once.As usual you distort everything.And if they don’t represent your party,show me what you’re doing to get rid of them.
Akin and Mourdock’s ideaology is well accepted in the republican party platform. When will that change?
Of course they don’t. But I don’t see our leadership telling them to shut up because they are wrong…they are told to shut up because they shouldn’t say it out loud.
I do love how Charlie Rangel is given a total pass by the Left.
“No man is going to feel what she felt so shut up about it” Really? No man has ever been raped? No male child has every been abused by his father, brother, uncle, priest from age 6 to 12? The only difference is the male cannot get pregnant but don’t you dare say no man can feel what a woman can about rape. And no, men do not need to shut up about this issue. It’s called free speech and I won’t have you or anyone telling me I have no right to free speech. Now before you call me a troglodyte, I happen to be pro-choice but anti-abortion. Pro-choice because it is NOT my decision to make it is the pregnant woman’s under all circumstances.
I will dare to say that no man can feel what THAT woman feels about what happens to her because each and every situation is different. And I stand by my statements on abortion after a rape. Men cannot get pregnant. They do not know what that is all about. I have a daughter and that decision is hers and hers ALONE. If she wants to get an abortion after this crime then I will be there to support her through that no matter what. And if I had a daughter who was getting abused and got pregnant then you better believe I would help her make the right choice for her.That would be a private family matter and not for an creepy misogynistic politician to get involved in. I am not talking about men being raped. I am talking about women.
“I am not talking about men being raped. I am talking about women.” Obviously. Lots of people feel as you do, ie, male rape doesn’t count.
Men can be raped. Even by women. And when they do, nobody tends to believe them. “Men can’t get raped!” Bullshit.
Yes I agree that a man can be raped, but by a woman, I don’t know about that. I think the jury is still out on that issue. It all comes down to biology. And there sure is a lot of biology going from male to male and male to female. But the issue in this story is that women being raped by a man is gods will or what ever is going on in the mind of this wanna be senator, is absolutely ludacris. Even the staunchly religious will find this story a little off kilter.
Rape is less a sexual act as much it is an act asserting control and power and putting the other person in fear.
This is true. But a man being raped by a woman is a little far fetched. I don’t care how powerful a woman is its not going to be a rape if the man is available to a woman. I’m not thinking this is possible.
How dare they do this, 51 % of the electorate is WOMEN, and they control the vote on keeping these idiots in a controlling position. You want this to change, exercise your right to vote. Cut them off at their pole.
The Rape-publican Party strikes again!
This guy is another reminder that you can’t spell ‘Republican’ without an R, an A, a P and an E.
Remember, women, if you get raped, it’s your duty to God to keep the baby in accordance with His will. But if you need public assistance to feed yourself and the baby, you’re just a freeloading Socialist member of the grasping, greedy 47% who are too poor to pay federal income tax.
You need not say more, you’ve covered the whole plan.
Are there any sane people running for office these days?
Yes, they are called Democrats.
I think Angus King is sane. But I could be wrong.
Yes – you are wrong. Angus King is a crony carpetbagger, in cahoots with Bloomberg and the Wall St. billionaires spending $1.75M in Maine on attack ads targeting Charlie Summers.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/19/Maine-Race-Leahy
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/17/Three-Wall-Street-Billionaires-Fund-Uncoordinated-Super-PAC-That-Spends-Exclusively-on-Angus-King
Eliot Cutler, King’s campaign manager, is still a board member of “Americans Elect” the super PAC spending money on the ads, which is illegal. AE also hasn’t registered with the Feds as a PAC, which is another violation of Federal election laws.
King is a phony, who will do anything to get his hands on the alternative energy money in DC. He will never get my vote.
Breitbart. Got a reliable source?
Breitbart originated the story, but the Washington Post and other sources have the same intel.
http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2012/10/05/politics/elections/outside-group-buys-500000-in-ads-supporting-king/
The GOP has filed complaints with the Federal Elections commission, because “Americans Elect” has failed to register as a super PAC, in accordance with the law.
R’s don’t get to cast assumptions on superPACs until they declare who’s on their own.If we had a real governor,Rove would slink around elsewhere.And for you to cite news from a corpse-too funny! Clean your own house first.That should keep you busy till about 2040.
LOL – and you’re the same folks who think that saying “faux news” is clever and accurate instead of responding with meaningful and accurate posts. I don’t watch Fox but the few times I saw the news reports (before 8PM) , they weren’t any more biased than the constant bias on PBS, CBS, NBC I that do see and hear on MPBN.
This Neanderthal is polling just 0.3% ahead in his senate race.
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He has just thrown this race into a possible Democratic pick up.
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He is running ads statewide showing Romney endorsing him too. Obama only lost Indiana by about 1% in 2008.
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I actually LOVE it when candidates like him step up to the mic. Every time they open their mouths, it’s like hearing Obama’s Reelection Committee in action.
Try reasoning this one to the innocent 13 yr old standing in the shower with blood dripping down her legs after she was just violently raped and sodomized. Betcha she’ll vote for you. Oh… that’s right… she’s not old enough yet to vote. Just old enough to be at the mercy of the animals that tell her that this is God’s work? Lord… please… have mercy on us.
These two politicians, Murdoch and Akin, are an embarassment to their party. That the Republicans actually hold this point of view is an embarassment to the entire country.
Vote for Rmoney and the GOP and this is what you will get.
Yessah
BS Deluxe, with a dollop of Nonsense on top.
Romney has supported each of these issues? And that’s the real nonsense of it…
So the logical assumption is that if a pregnancy doesn’t occur its the work of the devil. If a pregnancy does occur the rapist is only” doing God’s work” why put the rapist in prison?
The mentality of men just amazes me. It just goes to show you that with that kind of stone age mentality we will never see the true potential of this country. Like I said a dozen times….that’s what we get for letting men be in charge. The church, abuse, the boy scouts, abuse, the governement, just plain idiots.
At times, I’m inclined to agree, moonpie. In fact, I’ve said that if a woman were in charge in every country in the world, we’d see a permanent end to war because women communicate better, have an inborn need to protect, and don’t need to resort to cave man, survivalist thinking.
But let me also say that I cherish men and wouldn’t ever want to live without them.
It’s important to note that this poor excuse of a human has been endorsed by Romney, who said he didn’t the very next day.
It is people like him that has made me decide that I can no longer support or be part of the Republican party. What a fool!!!!!
And you know, notso, even this Democrat finds that sad because I remember a time when both parties had much to offer and were worth considering. It’s what made this country great…before the tea party came along with their efforts to destroy it.
Unfortunately, it’s not just the tea party republicans that are destroying our country, it’s the entire Republican Party (with some help from the Democrats).
I would love to see our country restored to it’s former glory where everybody prospered, not just the rich.
Nether party is looking out for the american people they are only looking out for them selfes only a few people are looking for the people . An how rich they can make them self will in office an get all the benefits for life
So you must be voting for Romney.. The only candidate who is wealthy enough, smart enough, experienced enough not to be controlled by the party machine – either REp or DEm .
Romney is just like Bush, he will do whatever the Cheney’s and Rove’s of the party tell him to do…
They want another puppet president, a weak man that’s easily controlled.
Kind of like what the Dems have now, with Obama?
Kind of like what we have in Augusta,in case you haven’t noticed.
Do you think so? I’d be happier if the Machine ran LePage, actually. I think he listens to no one but the voices in his head.
President Obama is the President that Bush wished he could have been, and the President, Mittens dreams about being. None of them can hold a candle to our President Obama, no way no how. Sorry.
I hope you’re being sarcastic.
So in other words, a vote for Rmoney would be a vote for someone who is uncontrolled. Just what we need-a loose cannon at the helm.
I feel the same way about the Democratic Party. I was a member for a long time, until the progressive, spend-thrift radicals took over the party and destroyed any semblance of common sense. I unenrolled from the Dems, and I haven’t looked back, since.
Are you expecting your “lost” common sense to return anytime soon? Or else you just haven’t been paying attention to “your” party lately…. they’re extremists. Oh wait… you wouldn’t notice that anyway. Never mind.
George W. Bush was who helped me decide that I could no longer support this party and it’s nuts like the ones in the current GOP that keep me from rejoining. I’m no fan of Democrats but these loons are reinforcing my decision to further distance myself from their party.
Maybe someone should rape his wife and get her pregnant then we will see his true colors.
Hey BDN… This has just what relevance to Maine voters other than to continue the drum beat of Neanderthal Republicans?
@maineiac123:disqus
Sure glad the Dems are all perfect and Progressives really don’t want to make America into a Nanny State.
It’s an important election year with the election weeks away. YUP voters have a right to know just how neanderthal these TEAS are.
Once is an aberration, twice is starting to look like a trend .IF the R’s wanted to keep their NEANDERTHAL agenda under wraps maybe they shouldn’t have been pushing it in state house after state house and onto their party platform. Fool me once shame on you ; fool me twice shame on me.
It is directly about the R agenda for women.
BS. As a Republican woman, I say you’re full of old flannel.
The sad part is that this was during a debate.It would be no less creepy if he said to a bunch of sheeple,but even he should’ve known it was going to be asked.And the crap about how he “thought about it for a long time”Mmhmm sure.
The relevance is clear ALL issues in the Party you support are NATIONAL!
Exactly. Bloomberg is the prime example. If you live in NYC, you WILL do, or not do, what he wants, and you WILL make appropriate tribute to his city’s coffers, too.
Bloomberg ran as a Republican when he was first elected mayor of NYC and he is now an Independent.
No, he’s not. Check out his campaign donations and political record. He’s a Progressive Democrat.
The World seems to get crazier every day. What is this man thinking? How would he feel if it was his wife or daughter? How this would make people smart enought not to VOTE for him.
clearly he said exactly what he was thinking …scary thought huh?? These 2010 teas are a bunch of whackos..
Yeah – kind of like good old Charlie Rangel, and Blagojevich.
Wow. I’m a Christian, and I don’t believe my God would intend something like this as part of some divine plan.
were do these people come from ? I would like to know what church told this to him ?
That’s just the thing this has nothing to do with any church it has to do with party politics that are so twisted that they will stop at nothing in order to over turn roe v wade. The guy Mitt picked for his Veep is one of the clowns who is carrying the flag for this tripe.
“Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday when a woman is impregnated during a rape, ‘it’s something God intended.'”
I must admit that I would have said the exact same thing from any platform I could find if I wanted to get elected to any office in Maine.
The humble Farmer
I trust you are not running for office. Please keep your concept of god to yourself and out of my life and the lives of the women I love.
Your mis-reading of the general character of Maine people demonstrates why your own act is so stale and trite. Speaking as a liberal who once paid money to see you perform, you put on one heck of a dull show. Your jokes seem to come straight out of Reader’s Digest circa 1974. You need to work on your “Maine accent” too. You do a rather poor, condescending impression of one.
oh GOD another nut case on the rigbt and to think the nut case is winning –just barely — another neadanderthal man . KEEP these nut cases , with a distorted view of GOD and women OUT of office . YES this is a war on women and their CIVIL rights
Prettyfoolish — More BS from the Left. You need another cup of chamomile tea.
I see “BS” has become your favorite saying, little miss ” I never insult people or their freedom to express themselves” as you so “spewed” on PPH
This is Rmoney’s GOP/Tea Party talking – don’t believe for one second Rmoney would NOT sign a Personhood Amendment that would force a woman to carry the child of her rapist.
And don’t believe for a second that Charlie Summers would NOT vote it.
Yessah.
BS Deluxe, pal.
It’s your party trying to ban giant sodas, trans-fats, and forcibly extract more money from the taxpayers. Just ask NYC Mayor Bloomberg.
I think that forcing a raped child to bear the baby of her rapist is different than a ban on large soda pops. Forcibly extracting more money from the taxpayers is something both parties do, too.
You mean the former Republican, now Independent Mayor Bloomberg?
Bloomberg, like Angus King, only pretends to be an Independent. They’re both Democrats, as their best pals in Maine will cheerfully tell you. Go review Angus King’s political donations, if you need confirmation.
Meanwhile, Bloomberg is helping to fund “Americans Elect,” an illegal super PAC buying attack ads in Maine. Why is the Mayor of NYC trying to steal Maine elections?
Bloomberg ran as a Republican when he was first elected mayor of NYC. He later toyed with the idea of running for president with Arnold Schwarzennegger on an Independent ticket. The billionaire businessman Bloomberg is most certainly NOT a Democrat!
When it spends like a Democrat, enacts legislation like a Democrat, and supports/funds campaigns for Democrats, then it’s a Democrat.
If Bloomberg were a Democrat he would fund Cynthia Dill’s campaign rather than Angus King’s. Bloomberg is an Independent who, when it comes to US foreign policy, just happens to agree with everything the Neo-cons stand for. They return the favor. Arch Neo-con David Frum is on the record supporting Bloomberg’s ban on big sodas.
But you’re totally fine with Rove’s PAC being here trying to “steal Maine elections”.. Naran, Dude, your political bigotry shines ever so brightly!!! Just as it should for a neocon style wannabe lobbyist. :-)
Your Holy GOP election platform calls for a complete ban of abortion even when the mother’s life is in danger and makes no provision for rape or incest.
Your Bishop Rmoney has stated repeatedly that he will overturn Roe v. Wade.
Your Bishop Rmoney wants to end funding for Planned Parenthood.
Your holy Paul Ryan cosponsored Personhood legislation.
Your holy Paul Ryan wants to make sure that employers can deny birth control coverage for their female employees.
Your holy Paul Ryan supported legislation denying pregnant women emergency medical care if it harmed the fetus.
Your holy Virginia governor – another member of the Party of Small Government – wants the state to insert transvaginal ultrasound devices into women against their will.
Your holy GOP tried to force personhood laws on the women of Mississippi.
Your holy GOP wants to redefine rape.
Your holy GOP has binder full of misogyny.
Please try to keep up.
Yessah
Oh dear lord, that mans filter wasn’t working.
How can any woman or man vote for these people? Disgusting.
You mean the same way many people think when they hear the self-serving plip from Pingree? The lies about “despising fat-cats,” while she’s riding on the Sussman jets?
It’s just silly to try and paint either party with generalizations. There are both good and offensive people on both sides.
You really need to get over your obsessive attraction to Pingree ans Sussman. People are beginning to wonder about you.
Lots of us have known for a long time what was up.Others need to be educated.
What is the matter with these men?! Next thing they’ll be saying the victim of rape should be brought out to the town green and stoned to death after the baby conceived in sin has been safely delivered–because of course it was HER fault she was raped to begin with. This growing movement of Christian Extremism echoes some of the ideologies of the Middle East and elsewhere that have come under fire, literally, for similar treatment of women. That these men are a part of the GOP and gaining momentum here in AMERICA is astounding!
The truly amazing thing is that these cronies are seeking positions of leadership in OUR country, and they are unable intellectually, to separate church and state in their own minds and actions!! These views, revealed in various slips of the tongue harken back to the days before long fought and hard won battles for equal rights in America. They will provide a framework for decision-making that we should refuse to accept in the 21st Century. Think long and hard about how you vote in November!!
again –it is called damage control .. his handlers gasped when he said it to the crowd, rushed up to him after and said “this is what you need to say to the press NOW to UNDO the damage”
This is typical Religion here… Its only God’s plan when its something good happenining, when its bad, there is no way that God could have anything to do with it.. Sorry folks its all or nothing, its either God’s plan or it isn’t.
Hmmm, that is a pretty extreme take on rape. I believe in God’s plan good or bad also. I believe I’ve lost close friends and relatives due to God’s plan. I believe good and bad happens and it is God’s plan but to say that I have to give birth to a child implanted in me by a rapist cannot possibly be God’s plan. Tell me something, if you were being held hostage and were sure the person holding you was going to kill you would you just assume it was God’s plan and let it happen? I doubt it. You would fight for your life believing that God gave you the strength and the wherewithall to fight off your attacker. Well, maybe God gave us the wherewithall to deal with impregnation by a rapist?
These are the types of people that want to run our country? God help us women! Before we know it we will have gone back 150 years.
This is ONE person, Annie. One. He’s unreasonable, and offensive. That doesn’t mean all Republicans think, and act the same way.
Please.
Please. We all know that there’s more than one who thinks this way.
Just as there’s more than one Dem politician who thinks the public pocketbook is his own piggy bank, and that his interns are fair game.
Will you stay on topic today? Or is your defense always to ignore the actions of your side and point out the problems with the other side?
Please.
When you stop, maybe others will, as well.
I’ll bet there are millions of tax payer dollars propping up Dick Cheney’s stock portfolio via no-bid contracts to wage wars of his own choosing.
Actually, I specifically didn’t label him. It just seems that those running for government (not specific to any political party) are so extreme. To me it feels like desperation on trying to save a sinking ship. As you know me from the PPH I do not adhere to any one political party and there are unreasonable and offensive candidates in other parties also.
Thank you. I believe the “R’s bad, D’s good” stuff is unhealthy, and unproductive.
See, we can agree. I too believe that the labeling of our politics is becoming very unhealthy. The parties are closing ranks and becoming unproductive because they are so busy defending each other. How about doing what is right and good and moral instead of worrying about who isn’t going to like you.
That would be a welcome change, and far more productive for everyone.
ONE person who is endorsed by Romney AND Ryan as the sort of person we need in the Senate.
One person who WAS endorsed by the R leadership. That will change.
Then it will be yet another flip-flop from the King of Flip-Floppers: Mitt “I’ll say ANYTHING to get elected!” Romney.
Contact everyone you know and make sure they are registered and will do anything they can to crush the R’s.If possible,donations of time/money will help.If not,do what you can.
why does a god have to work through a rapist to violate and impregnate a woman? this man is insane.
Do you HONESTLY believe only one party has folks this aberant?
It’s painfully clear that BOTH parties have their fools!
What’s so troubling to so many of us is that rags, like the BDN, appear only interested in telling us about Republican idiots.
You can rant all you want about the Tea Party, the Koch brothers, and ALEC… and I can match that with Progressive/Marxists, George Soros, etc, etc.
ANYTIME the “media” begins to provide less than ALL the news… we take one more step closer to the very totalitarianism we (presumably) both wish to avoid.
Do you HONESTLY believe only one party has folks this aberant?
It’s painfully clear that BOTH parties have their fools!
What’s so troubling to so many of us is that rags, like the BDN, appear only interested in telling us about Republican idiots.
You can rant all you want about the Tea Party, the Koch brothers, and ALEC… and I can match that with Progressive/Marxists, George Soros, etc, etc.
ANYTIME the “media” begins to provide less than ALL the news… we take one more step closer to the very totalitarianism we (presumably) both wish to avoid.
You are so right. I wish I could find the quote but I believe it was either Thomas Jefferson or Thomas Paine that said something about when the Government starts ruling the people rather then the people ruling the Government it is time to wipe the slate clean and start over. Anyone know the quote I’m talking about? I can’t seem to find it.
When the VP candidate is a cosponsor of a bill that supports this thinking it certainly gives one pause when evaluating the general direction of a party more concerned with social issues then issues of state.
Thank you.
Keep pushing for this country to be run on Christianity and this is where we are going. It is a slippery slope into a theocracy. The Bible has been re interpreted so many times no one really knows what it says and different denominations have different books of the BIble. So they can make all the rules they want according to their Bible. Separation of church and state is imperative. Other wise we will be Iraq or Saudi Arabia. Countries who do not wage war against those they find ‘immorla’ based on the bible live in peace and prosperity. We should base our lives on compassion and an understanding that we are all responsible for ourselves.
this is what ive been saying all along but people say noKeep pushing for this country to be run on Christianity and this is where we are going. It is a slippery slope into a theocracy. The Bible has been re interpreted so many times no one really knows what it says and different denominations have different books of the BIble. So they can make all the rules they want according to their Bible
I believe it’s that this country was founded, grew and prospered on Judeo/ Christian VALUES and PRINCIPLES. Not on a specific religion. That is what you fail to grasp. And as with anything in life there is a curve (like the stock market) with its ups and downs.
There might be others, but I understand Islam to be a theocracy about which is what you should be concerned.
Islam will not be our downfall. It is but a distraction for the masses to cloak the real issues. If we fall, it will be of our doing, not some Muslim boogeymen.
That depends upon who we elect to positions of power in America. Those folks have a deadly agenda, and if the US isn’t careful, all American women will be wearing burqas at Hannaford in a few years, and the schools will only be admitting males.
Now that is WAY over the top. Americans will never let that happen.
You sound like Ann Coulter, fear-mongering by spewing nonsense that no sensible person including yourself could possibly believe. There is no danger of that scenario coming to pass and you know it.
Not only is there no support for this within our representatives (some might be a bit too apologetic for the Palestinians, but that’s as close as it gets), there is no popular support for it whatsoever in this country.
We’re a liberal country thankfully and believe in women’s rights. Those that aim to make it less so should be your enemy, regardless of party or religious affiliation. It’s time to come back over from the dark side darth. ;D
The Muslims of which I speak do not care about women’s rights, nor any other, save those of men faithful to their religion and their Prophet.
If you think a forced takeover of this nation isn’t on their minds, you’re deluding yourself.
Oh no doubt. There are knuckledraggers such as that around the world and certainly some within our borders, though they are completely powerless to make such changes come to pass.
The far right zealots, such as our rape friends, not only have shown that they have power (they are in congress, have party support despite all the finger waving and “bad boy” scolding, and let’s not forget how many states “birth control is evil” Santorum won in the primary.)
You are looking at ultra-conservatism and male dominant politics right here. These are the people you should be worried about. Not the non-existent caliphate that is about to envelop the US. ;D
Which values and principals are those? In all reality Christians have killed more people than Muslims. You are talking about the principles of basic humanity. Really our forefathers had just as many faults as anyone else. They fathered children out of wedlock, they committed crimes. All people are fallable.
Zeus is the only real God.
Like it or not what this clown is spouting is one of the extreme planks in the Republican platform, one which Paul Ryan cosponsored. Think real hard about not voting Republican this go around because this crazy crap could become a reality.
Romney endorsed this jerk a couple of days ago.
Mourdock, like Akin, is an extreme fringe member of the GOP. The Dems have their own share. You know, like the folks who burn down resort homes on mountain tops, or spike old-growth trees so the loggers can’t do their jobs, or blockade banks and mortgage companies.
Trying to paint all R’s with the Mourdock/Akin brush just won’t fly.
Reasonable people, like most R’s, do not espouse or support the comments made by Mourdock. I certainly do not.
I would love to see centrists Republicans again. The problem is the party has allowed people like this to tap dance all over those who are sane. The guy Romney picked for his Veep is one of nuts, he cosponsored a bill stating this same nonsense. It’s not just a few it’s through and through so I’m not sure I buy the fringe argument. It’s never to late to regain your balance but honestly you’ve waited till the last minute to object to this far right contingent that quite frankly has been shouting the loudest.
Just like in the third debate all of a sudden Mitt’s moderate, who do you believe, moderate Mitt or NeoCon Mitt? The party of Lincoln has been more focused more on social issues and the moderates have been driven out, we need a strong two party system instead of this ultra religious, ultra extreme crowd that has held our country hostage. Take your party back …. please!
Romney and Ryan both support Mourdock.
Correction — DID support Mourdock. Look for the news releases, stating their opposition to what he said during the debate.
SO true ….. Mitt never is for something before he’s against it or vise-versa.
The Romney campaign released a statement this afternoon reiterating their support for this jerk. This says a lot about Romney’s integrity. .
Another one of your half truths. They objected to his comment but still support his candidacy. Hypocrites all.
snake handling popular in Indiana?? white hoods are
couldn’t stand the withdrawal symptoms. POOR PPH is dead as a doornail And to think, I thought I might do something useful with all my free time instead
I do miss the commentors we were used to going back and forth with on the PPH, for the most part. I hope you know who is lonely, all by herself!
You’re so sweet, dearie. Thanks for caring.
I am sweet and dear and caring. Most of the time.
If you mean Narrow-Mind Spaulding, beware: she posts here too!
Oh I know…….. but at this time I will not elaborate!
Welcome! I too left the PPH. I am hoping the BDN posters are welcoming. Do you think the PPH even noticed or even cares we all left?
Hi Annie, it is a different paper (BDN). I lived up north for a llooonnnggg time. I would once in a while post here. I am surprised that the ultracons are not here backing this guy. I looked at PPH late yesterday. Hardly anyone there at all. It stinks they did it before the election.
It’s truly sad. I sent them an e-mail stating the reason for my leaving the PPH but I guess they just don’t care how many people they have just turned away. Pretty much I wanted to know why their moderator couldn’t continue to ummm, “moderate” the comments. I already know the answer but I’d like to hear them admit it. Anyway, I will not give up my security and business for their usage.
I hear ya!
Same here and same result.Yet they won’t publish NOM’s list but were all hyped about the list from Kennebunk.Double standard at its finest.I do not trust FB in any way.Every major holder of personal info has been hacked or is fighting off attacks on a daily basis.They said they were still moderating.
Go ahead. we will wait . There is NO way you can find any example that will match this .
What was he thinking?
Why do we keep doing this to ourselves? First Tod Akin and now this
guy… We are killing our chances of getting the senate majority. Can’t
people understand that every time someone says something like this that the Democrats use it as ammunition in their supposed ‘war on women.’ They’ll use it as a distraction from Obama’s horrible failed economic policies. All Republican candidates need to remain focused on the economy and not fall for the democrats ploy. Abortion is wrong but bringing it up now can only do more harm than good.
By “we” do you mean the Republican party? The party that sold out common sense, moderation and decency for temporary short term political gains? The chickens are simply coming home to roost and Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. Laying down with dogs results in fleas, imagine that.
If the GOP is to restore itself, it needs to purge such people as above from within – not rely on the voters to do it. That RNC and state committees continue to back such candidates is telling.
You know, I used to be a Dem, long ago. Then, along came the spendthrift Progressives, who have destroyed the party by ignoring moderation in public policy and spending, and ignored all decency in pushing our country into social policies and resulting debts that our great-great-grandchildren will still be paying off when they die.
The Dems have spawned an entire generation of politicians like Blagojevich, who believe that their own best-interests are paramount over their constituents. Charlie Rangel is another example, along with the Dem rep who kept his ill-gotten gains in his home freezer. The Dem party has become a sump of self-serving politicians like Pingree, who condemn “fat cats” while lounging on the leather jet cushions.
I left the Dem party years ago, and haven’t looked back.
Really? A Dem at one time? And you are just now letting that little tidbit out of the bag. Hmmmm…..
Maybe you’re laboring under the illusion that I owe anybody any details about my life.
Believe me it is not worth listening to or reading about. Just think how it is kind of strange that all of a sudden you say somehting like that. but then again…………….. so long!
That deserves 1 million likes!
The D’s are better off now.Let the R’s suffer with her for a while.
Both parties are fiscally irresponsible in their own way. Neither have the right formula for balance. Almost all politicians are self serving egoists. That’s been true since BC. Surely that’s not a revelation.
Trade in your rusty D’s and R’s for a nice shiny I. Being free of the allegiances (and shackles) of corrupt organizations feels great and allows for far more objectivity.
The down side is that the disenfranchised don’t have much of a voice. They could, but first they must throw off their servility to their party masters. Something people on both sides are reluctant to do. Though little risked, little gained, right?
Guess I get another chicken after all eh Mambo? ;)
Another perfectly qualified right-wing-nut. Put him on the US Senate Science and Technology Committee. All together now, “Backward ho!”
Given the wide usage of “progressives” in US political speech, I am honestly amazed that “regressives” hasn’t caught on in our national dialogue , given it’s appropriateness in describing such people and their contrast to those who look ahead. Perhaps it’s only a matter of time before it’s mainstream? Regressive…come on people, use it with me. :D
How “Christian” of Mourdock . A woman gets raped, a rather traumatic event. Then, if a pregnancy is the result, is required to carry the “fruit” of that rape through gestation. Well, that’s a nice little souvenir. And then the child gets to grow up with the stigma of being the product of rape? Such a sensitive, loving man.
Ah, but then, as Akin said, if it’s a “legitimate rape”, I’m sure her body would shut down the reproductive process.
*sigh*
This BS is a testament to a party that has gone completely off the rails and continues to push an extreme agenda in an attempt to see how far right is right enough for the rightly righteous few.
And here we go! The republicans not speaking out against him and Akin. All for power and control in Congress. They do not give a rats behind about anyone but themselves and their own power.
You’re wrong, Roxie. This Republican spoke out against Todd Akin’s comments, and I will speak out against Mourdock. His viewpoint is 100% wrong, and his comments were ludicrous and offensive. He should abandon his campaign, and stay home. It’s clear he doesn’t have the measured common sense required for public office.
Your whole party should be standing up and condemning his and Akin’s remarks. “This” repbulican?
Lonely aren’t you :)
Not at all. Glad to see you’re still so determined to make everything personal.
As for my party, what they do is their own decision, not mine. R’s don’t move in lockstep, contrary to popular mythology.
It is about your party Naran. Stop being narcissistic and think everything is just about you. Stop spinning stuff to fit your own needs.
R’s dont’ move in lock step? None of them? Now that’s a laugh!
Yes, you are a laugh. Unfortunately, not a pleasant one.
TTFN.
You may now leave kindergarten. My god.
*….hands Roxie a nice, shiny mirror…..*
You need it more than me so thanks any way honey.
No. NO. Don’t force her out into the big real world, Roxie. It’s scary out there with all those grown ups.
Yeah she’d probably get nastier.
That’s impossible to imagine.The fewer conservatives we have in Maine,the better the state gets.
Are you as glad when you make everything personal?
I’m glad to see you saying so.
Thanks. I have never supported such offensive, and sexist garbage in my life, and I won’t start now.
It’s not only offensive in general, but it’s offensive to your party. I think we all want strong and intelligent leaders and this guy obviously isn’t the best mind that conservatives have to offer.
On that, we can both agree.
Romney himself appears in an TV ad endorsing Mourdock. Ryan endorses Mourdock too.
Romney and Ryan are both on the record saying that Mourdock is just the kind of person we need in the Senate! What does that say about THEIR judgment?
That was prior to the statements he just made about rape.
It was the same day. Mourdock is the ONLY Senate candidate to get a TV ad in which Romney personally endorses him. It debuted hours before Mourdock made this particular comment but he has been spewing similar Tea Party craziness all along.
Naran do you get paid by post, or do you get a flat rate.
What next? The pres candidate wears magic underwear…You can see them on the net…and believes he’ll get his own planet when he dies…..???
or 21 virgins, they are the American Taliban after all.
::facepalm::
If God is willing to prevent evil, but not able, then He is not omnipotent.
If God is able but not willing, then He is malevolent.
If God is both able and willing, then whence cometh evil?
If He is neither able nor willing, then why call Him God?
~epicurus
What a buffoon…..
This guy needs a quart of the best “KoolAid”…
Another way to look at it……If this politician is someday arrested for taking bribes or something else and he ends up in jail,gets gangraped by a bunch of inmates, it’s God’s work
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Blagojevich
You’re right. Just ask Blagojevich
And here I thought Akin was expressing the Republican view of abortion – that the body had it’s own way to assure a woman that she would not become pregnant because of a legitimate rape – whatever that is. Now it seems that they have a new spokesman telling us that the rapist is God’s messenger bringing a new life into the world. These side show freaks may not look like the side show freaks of a carny attraction, but they are just as, if not more, hideous than those who have physical abnormalities. Their belief system is warped. It’s ok for them to send our young men and women to war to get them killed, but it’s not ok to terminate a nebulous something in a woman’s body that they claim is a living being. The Republicans reject science for determining truth and champion folklore for the truth. If these two freaks and R&R are elected, this country will have begun its decline into the history books like Rome did with Nero as its leader.
These two “freaks” do not represent the entire Republican party, any more than Blagojevich represents the entire Democratic Party.
Except Blagojevich is in prison and these two freaks just might be elected to the US Congress.
Where was Blago, prior to his present incarceration? Let’s review, shall we?
Blago is yesterday’s news. Let’s review Nixon and Watergate if you want to discuss political crimes in US history.
Convenient, but still faulty. DEFLECTION FAIL ALERT.
Yes but it took many years to produce these freaks which sprang from a Republican petri dish filled with the agar of desperation. All too eager to embrace extreme religion and ideas so far right they have produced Frankenstein like thinking all in an effort to overturn roe v wade. Maybe we should be calling Dr. Polidori to see if he can control this freak before we hear a voice say the words ……. Polly-Dolly?
You are frigging nuts, sir! And a Republican to boot! I can’t believe how the Republican party–men in particular–believe they are God. Like I have said before, Republican men want women barefoot, uneducated, pregnant and in the home cooking their meals. I am from a long-line of Republicans but I can only hang my head now and head the other way.
Malice in Blunderland. That’s very much what he said, he can’t deny it. Even more of a flip-flop than Romney.
Leave it to the BDN to run with this story while continuing to avoid one of the biggest stories of the last 50 years: The Obama administration’s continuing lies and cover-up of what really happened in Benghazi. It’s a story so full of corruption from the top down, it makes Watergate look like nutty college hijinks. The truth is available but you won’t read it here.
Why don’t you enlighten us?
Don’t encourage them.They can’t even choose good booze.And Benghazi has been reported to death.R’s couldn’t be happier that it happened.
While the Obama spin has been ridiculous and embarrassing, to put it on par with one of the “biggest stories” in the last 50 years is absurd. All but the most die hard of partisans know the “elusive” truth already.
Coverups and lies of this magnitude went on just about every month between 2002-2006, including some of the biggest whoppers of the 21st century – the lies and schemes that gave birth to the Iraq war, one of the biggest flubs not only in the past 50 years, but in American history.
The disdain our elected leaders hold for us is quite obvious. Why? They’re not held accountable, except by those of the opposite party. Our last president lied us into a war that burn(s) through trillions and tens and thousands of lives and is rewarded with re-election. Will our current president be rewarded for his deception?
As soon as old the old white conservatives die off.Can’t happen soon enough.
Racist, much?
Not at all.Herman Cain,Bobby Jindal, and Marco Rubio can join the parade of losers.
Or at the polls.
For the first time I agree with you.
One of my good friends is a dyed in the wool R and has been politically active for 40 years.For the first time,she will not vote this year(which her adult children have taken her to task for)She is just the kind of intelligent thoughtful person who has been silenced.
“God at work when rape leads to pregnancy, says Indiana GOP Senate candidate Richard Mourdock” – biased reporters.
“Are you trying to suggest somehow that God preordained rape, no I don’t think that,” Mourdock said. “Anyone who would suggest that is just sick and twisted. No, that’s not even close to what I said.” – the person they’re trying to villify.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20121024-NEWS-121029860
Ayotte cancels campaign trip after Mourdock’s rape comment
October 24, 2012 12:39 PM
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — New Hampshire Republican
Sen. Kelly Ayotte has cancelled her plan to campaign with Indiana Senate
candidate Richard Mourdock…
Ayotte’s
spokesman, Jeff Grappone, said Wednesday that the senator disagrees
with Mourdock’s comments, which do not represent her views. Ayotte was
scheduled to campaign with Mourdock on Wednesday, but canceled her trip
and is in New Hampshire instead.
She’s a SMART WOMAN. Too bad she is a republican.
That’s one step in the correct direction, hopefully she’ll take another reasonable step and endorse Obama like Colin Powell has.
So, in his skull, fertilized eggs are ALL his imaginary friend’s will, yet in ONE instance, he is ok with THWARTING said will if he can look more moderate and gain a few more votes. THAT is ok? What about the women who are talking about suicide? What about the women who know that their child wont live? Why is making abortion relatively obsolete with education, healthcare and contraception such an evil thing too? Will the conservative base simply meander away without the inspiration of the abortion debate? Is the loss of the lobby money really that scary? I find it completely horrifying that men can even speak this moronic trash at all, let alone be a politician who has say in the direction our country is going in. Seriously, I really hope these people get educated or stop getting elected to offices of power. These people and their constituents scare me.
“You know, this is that issue that every candidate for federal or even state office faces. And I have to certainly stand for life. I know that there are some who disagree, and I respect their point of view. But I believe that life begins at conception. The only exception I have to have on abortion is in that case — of the life of the mother. I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize life is that gift from God. And I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.” ~Richard Mourdock
They should scare everyone …. though there are those on here that support the Right and disagree with this clown if they vote Republican it means they still support this thinking indirectly because if Romney is elected he will make sure he replaces a Supreme or two who will over turn roe v wade, which is their actual goal, and checkmate on this issue.
Unbelieveable…and for this beauty we lose Richard Lugar?
I am surprised he doesn’t call for the demolition of the Hoover Dam, seeing as how it thwarts God’s plan for the Colorado River.