AUGUSTA, Maine — Maine appears to be the only state in the country this year to eliminate Medicaid coverage for prescription drugs that help smokers quit, a budget-balancing move critics say will ultimately cost more and leave many Mainers hooked on nicotine.
The Maine Department of Health and Human Services plans to cut about $430,000 for anti-smoking medications under Medicaid, known in the state as MaineCare. The cut also will spell the loss of $750,000 in federal matching funds, amounting to a $1.2 million cut over the 2012 and 2013 fiscal years.
Pregnant women covered by MaineCare will not be affected by the cuts.
The reduction takes effect Sept. 1, according to Stefanie Nadeau, director of MaineCare Services at DHHS. Smokers trying to quit still can get help through the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention, another office within DHHS, she said.
“There is still over $2 million in CDC funding for the quit help line, for tobacco-cessation products and nicotine-replacement therapy,” she said. “We really felt this was one [savings opportunity] we could propose to the Legislature as there are still funds available when individuals are ready to access the help to quit.”
The toll-free Maine Tobacco Helpline has about $600,000 to help callers pay for over-the-counter therapies such as nicotine gum and the patch. Some individuals, including the uninsured and underinsured, can apply for a voucher to purchase a supply of the products at their local pharmacy.
The state CDC money does not, however, cover anti-smoking prescription drugs, such as Chantix.
While Georgia and Alabama already don’t pay for the medications through their Medicaid programs, Maine appears to be the sole state this year backsliding on its coverage, according to the American Lung Association.
The state CDC’s programs are no substitute because the tobacco help line can’t absorb the extra demand from smokers who will need help quitting, said Ed Miller, vice president of health promotion and public policy for the American Lung Association in Maine.
“There’s no question that the absence of the medications is going to reduce the number of people who make attempts to quit, and it’s going to reduce the number of people who are successful in quitting,” he said.
The smoking rate among people covered by Medicaid is much higher than the general population. While smoking among adults in Maine plateaued at about 18 percent in 2010, the rate among adults covered by MaineCare was more than twice that, at 40 percent.
A recent report in Massachusetts dispelled the myth that poor people, which Medicaid covers, don’t want to quit smoking, Miller said. After the Massachusetts Medicaid program beefed up coverage for smoking cessation in 2006, the smoking rate among recipients fell from 38 percent to 28 percent in 2½ years, according to a January study by George Washington University.
Researchers also found that Massachusetts saved $3.12 for every $1 invested in the anti-smoking program by preventing hospitalizations for heart problems related to tobacco use. On average, the savings were recouped within just over a year after the recipients used the benefits.
“We have taken one of the most cost-effective services that Medicaid offers and have eliminated it from the program,” Miller said. “That’s the wrong direction to be going in, particularly in tough economic and budget times.”
In 2010, 15,000 MaineCare recipients, or about 4 percent, took advantage of tobacco-cessation products and medications.
The cut could be fairly short-lived, depending on the fate of President Barack Obama’s health reform law. That law, which was recently largely upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, requires all states to cover anti-smoking prescription drugs by 2014.
DHHS has applied to the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services to cut the funding for anti-smoking drugs, but the state budget’s language allows the department to implement the reduction now as it waits for approval, Nadeau said.
“Downstream we will need federal approval, and we have submitted and asked for that, but we don’t have to wait for the approval to take action,” she said.
The cut, made through an amendment to Maine’s Medicaid state plan, is separate from another amendment to the plan that DHHS is seeking to tighten eligibility requirements for MaineCare, Nadeau said. DHHS hopes to get word on that change, which ignited a standoff between the LePage administration and the federal government, by Sept. 1.



This strikes me as a particularly bad decision. Given that studies show that when addicts are able to quit nicotine at the same time as their other drugs of choice, they have a better chance of staying clean and sober, this is a really counter-productive. Given that tobacco addiction leads to serious medical conditions and affects the health of non-smokers who are around the smoker, this will lead to more medical problems, not less. The one time savings are an illusion, created by smoke and mirrors. And given that every alcoholic and drug addict I have ever known on a personal or professional basis has told me that nicotine was the very first drug they used and became addicted to, nicotine is the true gateway drug. This is a very short-sighted decision and I hope someone stops it from taking effect.
As I have said before, deliberately indifferent to the poor. Save now and pay many years later. Look at the research. Look at the Mass research. Again, personal attack on the poor. Lepage is just a people pleaser.
This may be crass and unprofessional, I have said worse in my lifetime. This may get flagged. Oh well.
BRAINFART IDEA
Sorry, but if LePage is a people pleaser, it escapes me. ;D Cutting this from Medicaid does not cut the opportunity for people to obtain assistance in stopping. (Again, Maine Tobacco Helpline) What it does is stops tax payers from having to support the addiction in any way, shape, or form. If one is poor enough to have to rely on EBT for food and can still afford cigarettes, one is playing the system. I’m guessing that the cost of a pack of cigarettes is appx the cost of 2 gallons of milk. I’d rather see tax monies pay for the milk.
Your stereotyping……..Everyone on foodstamps or assistance is abusing the system.You are out of touch with your community… and just where do you think the funds are coming from for Maine tobacco hotline. Show me some stats to support your arguement.
The fact is, the very large majority of people who use these drugs to attempt to quit smoking are only looking for something that they think will make it easy. When they find out that it’s too hard, they continue to smoke. If they really are serious about quitting, they have to find the willpower and just do it. Offering the drugs is generally a waste of our money.
You may have a point, because some people quit smoking on their own. I did over 20 years ago, but I had not been smoking since age 10. The drugs help some people, not all, but the ones it does help cost the system considerably less then the full blown nicotine addiction that causes multiple, chronic and deadly medical conditions. The government has been subsidizing the tobacco industry for years. The tobacco companies knew since at least the 60’s, if not earlier, how addictive their product is. If our tax dollars can subsidize corporations that really do not need corporate welfare, I have a hard time understanding how they can’t subsidize medications that aid some smokers in quitting.
But it works for the methadone clinics….NOT!
I agree. From my own experience, quitting did not happen until I convinced myself I was going to quit. It was not easy, but I did it without drugs once I convinced myself to stop smoking. Its been 29 years 23 days since quitting. Never regretted that decision.
I am envious! I’d remember the exact date too. A major accomplishment for sure. Didn’t start until I was 25 and I completely regret it. I have nobody to blame but myself. I can well afford to pay for patches, drugs, electronic cigarettes but I have to muster the will power to shake it. I want to go cold turkey – one day wake up and say that’s it. I know several people who have done this. So envious.
I wish you well in quitting. I did it after many failures. I finally developed a plan to only smoke at the ‘critical’ times, after breakfast, lunch, morning and afternoon breaks, dinner , before bed, etc. I got down to about 9 per day, did that for awhile, then eliminated some more. Got used to that and woke up one morning and decided, “today is the day”. This is how I accomplished the task.
I hope you find your way out also, good luck.
I also quit cold turkey. A new policy at work making smokers smoke in a certain area, [ a garage, near the trash dumpsters] did it for me. Best decision I ever made.
To the greater extent, I must agree with MMA80. There is no truly easy way to stop dependence on any addiction. I took a lesson from AA meetings when I attended with my partner….I’ll never say I’ve quit, but I’ve not had a cigarette since 1981. It appears that the first 2-3 mins of that urge to light up are the most difficult. I found that admitting to myself that I wanted a cigarette, and actually turning that phrase into a mantra, assisted me through that first terrible urge until it calmed down so that I was controlling it rather than it controlling me. Just as with any addiction, I had to admit to myself that it was controlling me. I still, after all these years, get the urge to light up at times; it lasts for a few seconds and is gone.
No its coffee.
Not everything can be free – but the government tries its best. I do not want to pay for your habit or healthcare. Try relying upon yourself. Adios. No fumar.
This is ridiculous, since we have a direct financial stake in helping Mainecare recipients stop smoking. Say what you will about Mainecare recipients, but the reality is that they are not going away and we need to stop pretending that political grandstanding and angry ranting will make them. We need smart, fiscally sound public policy. Not hysterics.
You know it’s time to help yourself once and awhile instead of expecting the government to do it for you. I just would like to believe that the government officials are getting a grip on what the real issues are and not because we support medications for smoking…..I want the local, state and federal government to stop funding all this outragious stuff we have funded for decades. Stop giving our money away and start feeding the eldery and children of this country and give the kids in thsi country a fighting chance at a good education not just a herding passing grade. We as Americans should be ashamed of the people who are running this country. They get insurance for the rest of their lives along with their families and get to use the insider trading to make millions and then get to take vacations and invite children, boyfriends, and who ever else they want, when it is for an exploration of some issue like turtles. Tell me what a congressman or women know about turtles. Bills being passed with all kinds if earmarks added, when the bill should deal directly with what the issue of the bill is……..must I go on and on. We need to start somewhere and this and a lot of other spending should be cut out……….I know I pay for some of these people to live and eat and I am sorry for feeling the way I do but I figure if you have money for cigarettes you can quit to pay for the medication you need.
If only the world were as simple as you believe it to be.
Your tax money went toward Lepage’s daughters bloated “paycheck” – there wasn’t anything left to pay for the poor – so get over yourself.
likewise, you need to get over yourself.
I know I need to get over myself for pointing out that Lepage and his family are giggling all the way to the bank on your tax dime.
I have mixed emotions about this and can see your point, however, I used to work in healthcare and do per diem from time to time and I note that almost 100% of those on Mainecare smoke; they have this available to them, but choose not to use it. Their smokes are being paid for, so……..
Considering that most of the people on Mainecare are children…….
not to mention that at least 90% of elderly Nursing Home residents are also on MaineCare (aka) Medicaid. Approximately 0% of them smoke.
I would surely like to see where you get your numbers from. Nearly 100%, really? Do you know how many kids under 10 are on Mainecare?
Antecdotal information is not fact.
But more to the point, what is with throwing out the baby with the bathwater?
And that is exactly what we are getting,
smart, fiscally sound public policy.
I really hope you tea trolls realize that the ones laughing at you the most is your own tea troll leaders.
They don’t care about you peons, they wouldn’t give you the time of day when they passed you by on the way to the bank.
They could care less about the world and it’s long term survival, because let’s face it “eagles don’t pay taxes”.
Your nothing but easily led pawns placed for the sole purpose of keeping the people divided and distracted while they clean out the coffers.
I suspect that my own insurance premiums are paying for whatever lousy health habits you and your family might have. Yet I don’t demand that you stop drinking soda, or drinking alcohol, or smoking, or eating red meat, or vegetables sprayed with pesticide, etc. etc., or whatever other unknown-to-me poor habits you might have.
but you are paying for my healthcare if you do not pay for me to quit
Right. You have thought of everything and came up with that moronic conclusion. No fumar is not the subject matter here, it is you paying for treatment of the disease AFTER there is no assistance in trying to combat the habit. Hello, are you still awake?
The article states that there is funding out there, just from different sources. Whatever happened to the huge amount of money the States got from the tobacco companies a few years ago? I suspect it went the way of the of the Mass. 25 cent tax per pack enacted years ago for anti-smoking campaigns: It went to the State’s general fund. It is certainly a worthwhile cause, but the gubmint needs to allocate the funds appropriately. I have found that the cost of a month’s worth of the patch is 2/3 the cost of 1 carton of butts so it’s not unobtainable for a dedicated quitter (unless an EBT is used to buy ’em). :)
Excellent point. Just where did all that tobacco money go? Maybe the BDN can do an investigative article?
I hope you’re prepared to wait! :)
Money for the tobacco companies went to Maine Tobacco Helpline. This organization will furnish nicotine patches and support to anybody who wishes to stop this nasty habit. All it takes is a little will power and the choice to be responsible for oneself. The last I knew this service was free. Go for it, kids!
not to mention the 5 bux a pack in tax the state collects.
You mean like the gas tax that only goes to road building/repair? Another contributor to the general fund.
It’s called the Fund for a Healthy Maine, which Paul just cut this year in the budget
Is DHHS going to stop paying for lung cancer treatment too?
This and many other programs were supposed to be funded by the Tabacco Settlement. In the long run these funds if used properly were supposed to reduce long term medical costs caused by tobacco usage. In essence these programs were supposed to be paid for by funds derived from the deaths and dibilitation of those before the settlement, blood money paid to the government. The misuse of these funds well that’s another matter. For each dollar spent preventing or detering poor health practices society saves many dollars at each and every level.
There are people paying for your healthcare……
But one way or the other, you will.
If it is not for the anti-smoking drugs, it will be for the health care costs that come with being a smoker.
So, if you pay for medical insurance and pay taxes, you are in what one might call a “catch-22”.
I guess you’d then want to know which is cheaper, eh?
I would agree with you except that you will pay for their much more expensive healthcare when they develop lung cancer, heart disease, OCPD etc. They show up at hospital emergency rooms and can’t be turned away. The costs get rolled up into hospital rates we all later pay for via health insurance premiums, Medicare, Medicaid etc. This action may feel good but it will come back to haunt us all.
Since 1997, Maine gets $50,000,000 per year for 25 years from the tobacco settlement, and yes, that is 50 million $/year. This money will continue to flow in for 15 more years. It was ALL supposed to be utilized for smoking issues. You are right about the future costs – but, gee-wiz… Has anyone ever accounted for any of this money, and why can’t it be used for the purposes you just mentioned?
Yes, please cut the medicaid payments for anti-smoking medications. After all, people smoking is what keeps the cigarette factories humming along and the tobacco farmers earning a living. It doesn’t matter that their products my be supplemented with additional nicotine and produce all manner of cancer causing or other toxic byproduct just so long as the likes of Phillip Morris and R. J. Reynolds get their profits. Maybe they could supplement their incomes by buying some medical facitilities that treat patients for lung and esophageal cancers-they could make more money by selling the products that create the illnesses and then charge to medically treat those who do get sick. Yeah, I’m being sarcastic!
Penny wise, pound foolish.
Take it from an ex smoker (40+ years) those medications don’t work and are a waste of money.
Cold turkey — 4-7% success rate
Nicotine replacement — 19-27%
Various drugs — 7-33%
I think the wolf found the deer in your research, where are those facts from the town of Clayton Lake?
I smoked for many years and tried to quit many times without success. I finally stopped with the help of Chantix. It’s so hard to quit. I was glad to have it.
wrong. they worked for me! 30 year smoker. patches. I would recommend them to anyone.
me too. 8 1/2 years ago!!
Chantix works great – and it is very expensive.
Chantix has some very harsh side-effects–Some are lucky, and have no allergic reactions!–Not so with some of us.–I was a total nicotine addict for many years, which I am ashamed of, but when I decided to quit before they killed me, I put them up and never touched another one–Of course I didn’t know where I was or who I was for about a month, but it will be 5 years in February and I thank God every day that I managed to do it!
Chantix has some very harsh side-effects, some are lucky, like me and have no reactions. I was a total nicotine addict for many years WHICH I AM NOT, NOT, ASHAMED OF!! What are you gonna come up with, being ashamed that your are 5’7″, and apologize?
That’s rather rude of you.
Sorry to hear it didn’t work for you. I was lucky that it worked well for me with no side effects. Nicotine is such a difficult drug to kick. Worse than heroin I’ve been told. I think it is very short-sighted of the state to not cover what can help a person quit. Not cost-effective at all when you just want to look at dollars and cents of smoking cessation aid now or cancer later.
I’m sure you had and have many very positive attributes. No need to call yourself an addict, nor to feel shame. There are far, far worse behaviors than smoking. It’s great that you are doing well.
Please don’t thank God, thank yourself. You did the work, you suffered the withdrawal, etc. If you want to thank someone other than yourself, thank your friends and family for standing by you, cause I imagine there were some times when you weren’t too pleasant to be around. Keep up the good work, and congrats on your success.
Again . . . Maine Tobacco Helpline.
for you
Well they don’t help in getting one of cats.
None of the success stories I’ve seen involved drug replacements. Except for those released in the body from good old fashion exercise.
So intelligent, where are your success stories from and how many did you research.
They do work, I am an example of them working. Your immediate response without doing any research has come up empty because if you had done the research you would have found how wrong you are. Take it from an ex smoker whose medications do work and are not a waste of money.
I quit 8 1/2 years ago with the nicotine patch and I would recommend it to others. but the bottom line is you have to WANT to quit, the medications just guide you and take the edge off.
exactly
Then you never really wanted to quit. Blaming the medications is easier for you I guess…
They work if you want them to.
Absolutely nothing will work unless you are 100% ready to quit.
Well look at it this way…either
Medicaid coverage helps people quit smoking now OR they just pay out when the people get cancer, COPD and heart disease. Seems like helping people quit is a better deal to me.
Don’t cover people who smoke that’s even better.
Imagine how cheap it would be if we didn’t cover sick people at all!
No coverage for anyone who hasn’t worked and paid taxes for 40 years
Turn them down at the ER too?
I was being scarastic, sad thing is, it’s not just smoking that cause health issues, it’s drinking, chenicals people wear and use, standing next to a fire, riding in a car, lets not forget the DDT the government sprayed everywhere that still sits 4 inches under the ground surface, it’s fast food, frozen food, hand lotion, body soap, floor wax, glass cleaner, tooth paste, growth hormones in animals, it’s chemical fertilizers, it’s artifical scented stuff, it’s chem trails from planes. Smoking is way down the list. So peoples health issues have little to do with what they do, htey have no choice on most things.
The fix, lower medical cost by 70% and it won’t hurt anyone.
I’m wondering, seriously, if there will still be coverage for Viagra.
MaineCare does not cover Viagra
No wonder welfare is about 50%
I should have stated that the only reason I mention this is due to the ongoing controversy about contraceptive coverage for women, vs insurance coverage for medication like Viagra. Apologies for the non sequitur.
Get your mind out of your back pocket! Everyone in this country is entitled to the same rights. If that doesn’t work for you, move to China. They like to discriminate against kids who were born without State permission.
You must be a child because NO one is entitled to anything in this country or any other. You earn and pay for your entitlements.It is no one’s right to take money out of “my back pocket” so they can live my life style and make me go without. Meaning I’m rather broke at this time but I’m not expecting nor asking for handouts, why? Because I’m entitled to work 2 or 3 jobs to support MY family I don’t have the money or the time to worry about China, I have my own kids to keep alive and clearly not from help from people like you
What sort of lame thing is that telling me to go to China? That makes no sense. I didn’t mass fornicate with them and over populate their country. Even my parents didn’t lay that stupid line on me when I was a kid.
Whats wrong with you people who think your are ENTITLED to anything? GEEZ!
My guess is I’ve been around a Helluva lot longer than you. Unless the Tea Potty crept in there a changed things when we weren’t looking, EVERYONE is entitled! to equal rights under the law. Just because someone hasn’t been able to work and pay taxes doesn’t mean they arn’t given the same rights as you. There are a lot of Viet Nam vets that haven’t worked since the 60s. There are children born every day that won’t have the capacity, mental or physical, to work. All of them are entitled to the same rights as you. I raised my family just as you. Sometimes I had to go without and sometimes worked 2 jobs and overtime. That what is expected.
Really? What about the disabled who weren’t able to work that long before becoming disabled?
Why is it people bring up things that are not mentioned? Left out of a post?
Things that are not brought up because it’s not included on the list?
Why don’t you ask me if that includes Santa Claus? Or the Easter Bunny, I
didn’t mention them either.
“No coverage for anyone who hasn’t worked and paid taxes for 40 years”
Excuse me but that would include disabled, would it not?
You didn’t ask about Santa, the bunny or elderly, you didn’t ask about
people foreign who refuse to become citizens who get welfare, disability
, SSI who never worked here either. I’m not going to answer you until you do
Which Santa would you like me to ask about, the myth or the many that dress that part each year during the holiday?? The elderly I will assume most have worked and paid taxes those 40 years. The people who refuse to become citizens should not be granted any special benefits at all. Satisfied yet oh snarky one?
If you had read all my post you would not ask me about what I didn’t say.
I didn’t say handi capped or elderly because that’s a different category.
You’ve been posting here long enough that you should know by now, I’m
a big supporter of helping both the handi-capped and elderly. I’m against career welfare
types.
As for the Santas , Derp, both, the myth because he was such fun for kids
and the “elves” because they are working and paying taxes
That’s a brilliant idea. Let’s add 60 million new people to the uninsured so we can all pay for their medical care. Brilliant!
They shouldn’t be smoking in the first place. They also shouldn’t be doing it while getting Taxpayer Funded Medicaid either. If they smoke they should lose coverage. Maine citizens should not be paying for people who smoke who claim to be disabled and getting this “help”.
It’s ok for these folks collecting welfare buying junk food , booze, cigarettes but claim they are poor and disabled. It’s time they put a stop to this.
so smoking and drinking and junk food are still legal as far as I know. we give welfare to those doing illegal drugs and ‘cant’ work because of their affliction and pay for the tattoos etc. . so you want to stop help to quit smoking, so you can pay for my lung cancer later on. rite?
People should not drink alcohol, soda or sugary drinks; eat meat, dairy or fatty foods; they should exercise more.
Should we take everyone off of Medicaid that you do not agree with their lifestyle choices, even legal ones?
The big difference is smoking will eventually kill you. It is one of the only legal things that will kill the user. Sure they might die of other cause first, or live to be 100, but eventually smoking will kill. Those other things, if done in moderation won’t affect you all that much. Smoking however even in moderation will still eventually kill.
Life ends in death most the time.
If what you say was always the case, which it isn’t, would it matter anyway. I’ll wager that the stress created by fear and loathing campaigns, malicious coworkers, “pure” human ideologies, rampant depersonalization, lack of humanity, widespread anomie, and the lack of quality care, etc. cause far more illness.
What? Of course what I say is always the case. Smoking will eventually kill you. That is a fact. The only reason some smokers do not die from smoking is because they die of another cause.
That is not factual. I do have the research materials. But not to get caught up in an inane argument: of course smoking is not good for humans and has been considered poison since the very earliest writings. But criminalizing the people who do smoke with magnitudinous faults is unjust, and making smoking the cause celebre, and a very powerful political smokescreen, for far less than altruistic reasons, which certainly has occurred, is wrong.
The research say smoking kills, Fact. When done correct, it will still kill, fact. When done in moderation will kill, Fact.
Obesity will eventually kill you, drinking too much will eventually kill you. What is your point?
Drinking too much isn’t doing it correctly now is it? Obesity of cause by other factors and is not something that you do. So not even in the same ball park. Drinking will not cause death if done in moderation. Smoking will.
Drinking can and does cause death if done in moderation. One drink will cause the body to react differently to stimuli (for example to die from exposure easier) and more slowly to threats than when sober and can and does cause accidents at low/legal intoxication levels.
Obesity is caused by two factors, taking in too many calories and not exercising enough, which means that 2/3rds of American’s are overweight/obese and it is only getting worse.
According to your philosopphy, why should my tax dollars pay to treat either the drinker or the overeater since I do neither?
Nope, the drinking problem is the exception not the rule. As for the obesity, they are eating too much, not in moderation. Unlike smoking done correct and in moderation will still kill you.
I am a proponent of the nicotene replacement for mainecare, as above. I do agree that the entitlements should be revamped. If they are going to spend foolishly than perhaps they need a payee.Aynone with a substance use issue should have a payee. Some perhaps guardians. Perhaps weekly allotments for entitlements… than monthly. I too pay hefty taxes. Revamp the foodstamp system to include healthy choices. Stopping mainecare for smoking will not happen. Then private insurance companies will follow suit. In reality, if the person loses their mainecare coverage……then ER visits will increase with a snowball effect to follow.
wow, you really are an angry taxpayer – not so sure about the patriot part, though.
They have paid more into the system then you will ever think of.
I find it interesting the Liberals complain about people being hurt. Though its folks like these who are the ones who are causing the abuse of these programs. Want to smoke and buy junk food no welfare for these folks.
So we should stop paying for the Lepage’s health care correct?
Cause I am thinking his PCP has suggested to him more then once to do some push away’s from the food trough.
That is exactly the point I was trying to make.
they won’t help overweight folks lose weight??? My thoughts, pay for quiting smoking, losing weight, in the end… it will financially help all of us.
I found the secret to losing weight…. stop eating so much. I don’t charge for my advice.
yeah, if it were that easy. our tax dollars pay for those who smoke , overeat, drink, ect, it is a medical condition… pay now or later.. your choice.
Exactly my point.. our tax dollars pay for these things that are a personal responsibility! Take some pride in yourself and get it under control. These are not medical conditions. They are personal choices.
I understand you, however, as a medical professional, they ARE medical conditions, unless you can change the CDR or DSM, they will remain that way…. so we must provide education on diversion. What if it was your child who was an addict? And your insurance would not help you? Do you have 100k to help your child? It is an illness…. Get real people!
Education is fine. I think it is money well spent. However, spending money to “cure” the addiction is apparently a waste of money in most cases. I think we can all admit that there are people who have recovered because of the help the state provides but, let’s be real. The very large majority do not recover and we are spending money with no benefit. We can’t continue to spend this kind of money on a tiny success rate. Let’s put our money in parenting classes and education .
later means paying for oxygen, scooters, hospice way too early leading to SSI benefits to young kids. Prevention is the best way.
Find one person under the age of 18 out there right now in the vast state of Maine who doesn’t know that smoking is bad for you. I dare you. We already have an effective prevention program called EDUCATION. Even kindergarteners know smoking is bad. So we DON’T need to spend taxpayer money on education or prevention.
What we CAN’T do is institute the NANNY STATE where we then take care of all these people, who admitted knew smoking was BAD for them but they went and did it anyway. That’s called a LOUSY LIFE CHOICE but in America, you’ve got the right to make lousy choices. But the TAXPAYER doesn’t have to pay for it.
cuz it is so easy for you, and everyone should be like you
Put on the big girl panties, honey. It’s called being an ADULT.
If less people stop smoking then we can get more in taxes.
See how Republican’s will increase revenue.
Smokers have money for smokes, but no money for medication. Who can tell me what’s wrong with this picture?
What a poor decision! The tax payers are going to be footing the bill for COPD and cancer treatment instead of smoking cessation? A patch or script for Wellbutin is considerably less expensive. It is the same case with preventative medicine. If you take your BP medication you won’t end up in rehab due to stoke/heart attack. If you take your diabetes medications you won’t end up on dialysis. Prevention is the way to go! I smoke and need to stop. I hope to go cold turkey in a few months but I might need something to get me over the hump.
Just so you know… Johnson and Johnson has to change the recipe of ALL their products because the chemicals they use for scenting cause cancer, for about 10 years give or take they had to change it before they could sell outside the U.S. but they kept selling it to us.
All your scented soaps, cleaners, detergents, perfumes, lotions, that are NOT scented from plant extract causes things like bronctitis and other COPD’s and cancer.
Ever get a piece of meat with an ugly spot, sort of looks like fat, sort of a canker? Thats where they injected artificial growth hormone in the animal, don’t eat it.
Yikes. I don’t think I’m ever going to look at a piece of meat fat the same way! I understand your point but when I smoke I’m making the conscious decision to take the risk. When I buy meat, soap or deodorant I’m assuming it is safe and is not going to poison me. Can’t trust the FDA!
Back to my original point….. spend more $ on prevention and save in the long run. Even if the smoking cessation program helps only a few people a year, think about the overall savings.
Yikes is right.
Your probably right, it’s likely to be cheaper to help people quit then for them to get extra vouchers for heat and food because they spent the money on cigs.
Why don’t you use the money you spend on smokes to buy your own medication? How important is stopping to you?
Are you talking to me? Nobody pays for my smokes, medications or anything. I suspect I am taxed more than most in this State. I was only emphasizing the importance of education and prevention whle sharing some of my own personal struggles. Nitwit.
For heaven’s sakes, Stop tossing money to smokers. They CAN quit . Many hospitals offer a great class, Smoking Cessation, and is affordable and it WORKS. It is 2012 and we see more young people smoking and there is no reason for this when facts are so bad about what smoking does to your health.
Time for the smokers to put the big boy and big girl panties on and just QUIT. Thousands of people have quit without all the drug crutches.
“smokers can quit” “smoking cessation is affordable” boy are you out of touch. You have never been addicted to Anything. not a video game, smokes, alcohol, meat, pasta, bread? an addict is an addict no matter what the substance is. and once you are taken in, it takes an outside force to get you out.
I am not out of touch and I used to smoke. I was able to finally quit the habit when I took the Smoking Cessation class at the local hosp. It was FREE for anyone who could not pay,even thou people could still pay for the smokes. The main theme is the person HAS to want to quit the habit. I do not like my tax dollars paying for lung cancer patients that smoked.
The only thing I’m addicted to is air.
mainecare is also cutting outpatient surgery that is also in the letter
Also cutting off the help to diabetics too, kill off the poor so the rich can have it all, stash there millions in offshore accounts so they don’t have to pay taxes, then run for president telling everyone that they understand the poor and middle class. doesn’t matter if you worked hard your whole life, paid your taxes, not going to get any help if your sick or old.
One problem with this plan. If you kill off all the poor, there will be no one for the rich to hire/own to be their maid/butler/lawn boy.
Robots. Invest in robots.
Sure there will be, just the lowest people on the rich totem pole.
I’ve been saying it for some time, after the middle class is gone, the moderately wealthy are next.
you are ok if you get supplies at a pharmacy
No it’s Liberals in Maine destroying the economy here and creating a haven to put everyone on the dole. That is why Maine is in the mess its in. The Democrats went nuts trying to create every welfare program they could think of and try to put everyone on it. Well look at what has happened it is a colossal failure. It has created a massive economic situation that our budget is always out of wack and the state is suffering from it. With no jobs, no population to pay for the level of spending and welfare programs the Democrats want.
So how many jobs are going to come into the state if the population is not healthy?
I don’t beleive theres ever going to be jobs here, saw mills gone,shoe factories gone, textile mills gone, sardine canneries gone, the logging industrie on its way out with destroyed forests, didn’t bother to replant and plan for the future, then paper companys sold off there land to rich investors from MASS that are stripping whats left of it. I feel bad for the next generation of children growing up here, not going to be any jobs for them. im not sure who’s to blame, sure theres people abuseing the system, some are poor and some are rich, its a colossal failure, I just can’t imagine takeing healthcare away from the real sick and elderly that really need it ,like you and I alot of them paid there dues, some didn’t. theres so many poor people in this state I can’t imagine what the futures going to bring, everyones mad at obama because he didn’t fix the mess were in, now we have Romney, multi millionare with millions stashed away in bank accounts in other countries so he doesan’t have to pay taxes on it, don’t understand how he can ever realize what its like to be poor or middle class, he created a forced healthcare system in MASS but now wants to eliminate obamas healthcare? I grew up poor my father and I worked 6 sometimes 7 days a week, we didn’t have healthcare, every day we left the woods we were both grateful to make it out alive, occasional cuts or broken bones, paid the doctors on a payment plan, paid our taxes, one day he was killed in a logging accident, widowmaker killed him instantly. then it was just me working alone, destroyed whats left of my body over the next 30 years, could fill a whole page with all my medical problems. some people really need help with health care.
darkcat33
The President you are describing within the “Black Cloud Perception” of any sound Liberal must be your current President “Barry Obama.” Is it not? President “Barry Obama” moved 710 billion dollars from medicaid into the “Obama Care” program which covers less individuals. So, you are correct about not having the government “Take Care” of you, “if you are sick or old.” What if you are both? Sick and Old. What do “off-shore” accounts have to do with a State of Maine DHHS budget-cut?
The Liberal “Boo-Hoo” attitude would be appropriate if the story had a substantial heading like, “DHHS will crack down” on E.B.T. abuse and prevent the purchase of lobster and beer.” So, “northnomad” and other Liberal’s begin removing yourself from government reliance and stop your Socialist agenda that your “Barry” Obama is attempting to initiate on the home of the free: “Feel free to smoke. Feel free to pay for the cosequences. On your own.”
I’m not a liberal, I don’t smoke , never have, spent to much time working to make a liveing and pay my taxes, no regrets. and yes I did kind of get off topic, it just sickens me that a man that would hide millions of dollars in some other countrie so he wouldn’t have to pay taxes on it would try to be the president of this country, and who the Hell is “BARRY OBAMA”?
It is actually 716B, and the money is going to come from cuts in waste and provider side abuse, amongst other things.
This money, btw, is also removed in the Ryan budget. But his plan is to cut from the patient side of the ledger. Which is why they can only afford to offer up a $6k voucher for a years worth of medical insurance.
Yep no more colonoscopies which means later on down the road the state will have to pay for their cancer treatment, brilliant!
“Penny wise, pound foolish.” Smoking cranks up medical costs for everyone.
exactly why we should try to help people stop. the deseases cost more than the cure
There are several taxes added to tobacco one of which specifically was mandated to fund advertising to Prevent sales to minors and to also fund quit smoking programs… WTH??? So the state is scamming all smokers for these taxes and spending them how?? Come on Augusta lets see some of that transparency you been promising voters…
They are spending it on health conditions and medical cost coming from smokers.
Can you prove that?
Simple solution ……………………… Band all tobacco products in the State of Maine …………………. there, problem solved, no tobacco products so ether you quit or move to a State that allows tobacco products.
more government control, ya, that is the answer. what if we outlaw your favorite things?
Then folks would have to go to the man that sells all the other banded drugs….
Prohibition does not work.
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong (I am sure someone will) but wasn’t that one of the supposed uses of the cigarette tax money? Must be that was just until it was passed.
Yes it is. And up until LePage’s first budget Maine was one of only a handful of States that actually used the money for what it was intended for.
I am all for the government cuts but not this one. Its really hard to quit. Kudos to anyone who has or is trying. Give them all the help they can have.
What government cuts are you for? If you are “PRO” well-fare or economic hardship individuals declaring they are “poor” and need State Health Care, but can afford to smoke and “need money” for “stop smoking products.” Really? Please, let’s give “Kudos” to anyone who has never “started smoking.”
I believe the funds from the tobacco class action settlement went into a fund for just this purpose….whatever happened to that money? Also, theadone for drug addicts ( who were/are addicted to illegal drugs) yet, we cannot help people hooked on nicotine ( a legal drug) give up the addiction. Also, the state charges huge amounts of tax money for each pack of cigarettes sold…perhaps they don’t want people to kick the habit…..loss of revenue for the state possibly?
Methadone and other opiate substitutes are also being cut down in Mainecare, they are still allowable for Mainecare clients, but the amount of time has been capped.
What happened to the funds that the state was awarded in the tobacco settlement? I thought that money was to help people quit smoking and for antismoking programs? Why is it that DHHS can pay for methadone treatment for people that have become addicted to illegal drugs, yet can not do the same to help people give up nicotine? It has nothing to do with the concern the state may have over losing all that tax money they make on every pack of cigarettes if people give up smoking …..no, our government would never do a thing like that.
Just to clarify —–its not just illegal opiates. Prescribed opiates as well. From a acute pain issues(car accident, back issue or chronic pain.) and you know mainecare is cutting it to a 24 month cap in a life time period with a prior authorization to continue treatment.
Second misconception…..methadone clients are self pay and private insurance pay too.
Third ..If you find your self needing a knee replacement , MVA, severe osteoarthritis, or of the like
you may find your self in the same position.
I know most of the forums find humor in this. I dont think you realize the effects from these changes. You may have a change of heart. Then lets see who is laughing.
I wrote “illegal drugs”…I did not say everyone was addicted was because of illegal drugs! Still stand by what I wrote though….dhhs pays for methadone treatment for everyone that needs it….so what if it’s limited for 24 months….I don’t believe the cigarettes smokers are going to be on nicotine patches for 2 years….
and your point is?
Let me get this straight, they pay for gastric bypasses for people and many of them gain the weight right back? They pay parents that lose custody of their kids during the reunification process, they pay for drug addicts to get their methadone but they won’t pay for someone that needs help to quit smoking? When smoking leads to so many diseases why on earth would they stop if there is something that works. I have never smoked but have many friends that do and they have quit cold turkey and the other one used some kind of medication and his insurance paid. This is stupid!!
I quit cold turkey after smoking from the time I was 13. It’s been 5 yrs now. I want to know, if they are low income enough for Maine Care, how are they affording the cigarretts in the first place? They should be using that money to use to buy the quit smoking patches/gum/ect. instead of the cigs. My husband has smoked for over 30 years. At the cost of cigs now, a box of patches is actually cheaper than the cigs themselves depending on how much one smokes, over a few days to a week. If they are only smoking a few cigs a day then they are not that addicted to need anything to help quit. A pack now runs between 6.00 and 8.00 a pack. If you smoke 1 pack a day of the cheap 6.oo ones, that 42.00 a week. A box of patches, up here anyhow is 50.00. Do the math folks. Oh and on a side note, both hubby and myself, who at the time was a 1/2 pack a day smoker,both tried welbutrin and it never worked for either of us.
I am so happy for you that you quit cold turkey, not sarcazim. but from someone who has smoked for 35 yrd and tried the gum, and cold turkey. it is not as easy as you let on. If a program can help people quit and avoid desease, why would you vote for the latter?
Don’t states still get money from that tobacco settlement? Shouldn’t we promote cease smoking programs especially in people who are most likely to have their medical care paid for with state dollars? This program is penny wise and pound foolish.
Wasnt the Tobacc0 suits from the ninety’s supposed to cover these costs?
Here’s an idea. Want to quit? Use the money you were spending on smokes to buy the medication yourself. Leeches!
sucks to be perfect like you, huh? so much stress
No. Actually it’s pretty great. If things were going any better I’d have to be twins to enjoy it.
And yet, you spend your time here, on the internet. That IS the good life.
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Additional help to quit smoking can be found through
http://www.tobaccofreemaine.org/quit_tobacco/Maine_Tobacco_HelpLine.php
*edit: While it doesn’t appear to cover Chantix, those who qualify for mainecare coverage likely qualify for assistance in purchasing nicotine replacement products (like the gum/patches) and additional quit-smoking support from this program.
It’s hard to quit, and may take several attempts, but it is worth doing. Good luck folks!*
Another brilliant move. Do not stop them from smoking, let them get cancer and cost us millions in chemotherapy, surgery, hospitalizations and then they die.
Funny pregnant women will not ne affected by the cuts. Chantix shhould not be taken by pegnant women.
Good idea most smokers die about thee time they are eligible to collect social security. This should help with the shortage due to government raiding it for themselves.
I have to ask, although I am sure getting a response is almost nil. Who in the world would cut out anti-smoking coverage and then put out the money used to assist in those who are treated for the disease. There have been some strange events in my 67 years of life on this earth, but this is probably the strangest thing I have ever heard and read. Someone must find the (having problems coming up with the proper noun for person) thing and get them some psychological assistance.
“this is probably the strangest thing I have ever heard and read.”
You have obviously not seen the Republican platform for 2012.
The humble Farmer
I smoked for 20 years since I was 14 . The doctor told me if I did not stop I was waste of his time. So with his help I stopped .
won’t help you to quit smoking but will pay for cancer,copd, ect?
They are also changing the rules for any opiate that is given for cronic pain. Only 15 days worth then you have to have a face to face with the Dr. This will mean paying for more Dr visits.
How exactly is this suppose to save any money? Looks like its a pay me now or pay me later, with the pay later option being much more expensive
When will this war against the poor end??
“When will this war against the poor end??”
It won’t. It is a battle that has been fought in every land since history has been recorded. Only the places and dates change.
The humble Farmer
No, this is not a battle against the poor, this is a war against those who foster an environment that encourages people to avoid accepting personal responsibility for the choices THEY MAKE. I suggest:
1. No federal subsidies for tobacco.
2. The government does NOT pay people to stop smoking. (Is there ANYBODY in Maine,REALLY, anybody at all, that isn’t aware that smoking is harmful??)
3. We proceed to a health insurance program, which just like driver’s insurance, takes into account the VOLUNTARY CHOICES an insured makes, such as
a) riding a motorcycle
b)without a helmet
c) SMOKING
d) drinking more than 3 drinks/wk
e) obesity
In other words, TAKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES.If you want to smoke, have at it. But when you decide to quit, DON’T expect me, the taxpayer, to pay for it. And if you have health issues because of voluntary bad choices (ie, acceptance of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY) , YOU pay the premium on your health insurance, not the taxpayer.
It is a war against the poor…. in case you haven’t noticed…..
The smoking cessation programs work when a person wants to quit.
We all pay for your insurance as well…….. anyone who has insurance pays for each others, don’t forget that little bit of truth!
How is refusing to believe that the GOVERNMENT should pay for programs to have people stop smoking, something they voluntarily decided to do in the first place, a war against the POOR?
Raise the taxes another $2 a pack….If you are too poor to quit we can make you too poor to smoke. We might need that extra money to take care of them when they are 60 and have a heart attack. Smoking is the nastiest habit there is.
Apparently researching an East West highway is more important. What a numb bunch the governor and his cronies are, eh?
Wasn’t there a settlement from tobacco companies, and millions of dollars came to the state, what has the LePage admin done with all that money, earmarked it to pay for ALEC conventions? Perhaps to hire more relatives? Pay for buffalo counts?
And to those of you complaining that using public money to pay for cessation programs violates your Ayn Rand view of the world, read the article, effective cessation programs save more tax dollars in the long run than they spend. Unless you’d like to continue to pay tax dollars to hospitals to fund big time treatment and surgery for lung cancer, emphysema, etc.
OH AND YOU TWO ARE THE ONES WHO’S OPINIONS SHOULD MATTER AND NO ONE ELSES SHOULD……………I RECENTLY WATCHED A NEWS STORY ON HOW THEY WERE GOING TO STOP LETTING PEOPLE IN LOW INCOME HOUSING SMOKE IN THESE RENTAL UNITS…….ONE THEY INTERVIEWED SAID SHE PAID HER RENT AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SMOKE WHERE SHE WANTS…………UM YOU LIVE IN LOW INCOME……………..THE GOVERNMENT PAYS THE RENT AND IF MY GRANDMOTHER NEEDED A PLACE TO LIVE AND SOMEONE HAD BEEN SMOKING IN THE UNIT SHE HAD TO MOVE INTO, I WOULD NOT BE IMPRESSED………. IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO SMOKE IN TODAY’S WORLD YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY TO QUIT
Stop, you’ll hurt your throat.
But it is okay for taxpayers to pay the rent for your grandma?
Why didn’t your grandma set up a retirement fund that would pay for her upkeep?
Why are taxpayers required to pay for your grandmas lack of planning?
Why are you not paying for housing for grandma?
Shouldn’t you pay for your family upkeep if they can not?
Your a little late, this notice was posted over a month ago.
I’m with you, however, shouting at them accomplishes nothing. It’s usually a tactic the left resorts to (along w/the name calling). They will never, ever ‘get’ it. I’m on your side and we are the silent majority; we are still here. Remember in November.
Yes please do remember in nov how much Lepage has spent of “your tax money” on lining his friends and families wallets.
If this is available ‘free’ to them, how come so many of those on public assistance still smoke. I’d love to see the stats on the number of people on assistance who smoke vs we who work for a living.
Your wall of rant speaks for itself.
Research shows that it takes more than one or two ( 3, 4, 5) attempts to quit smoking and that the vast majority of people (not just mainecare people) need to use some type of support like medication or nicotine replacement to quit. Mainecare does not focus on preventive care in any area, not just smoking cessation. The state would rather pay for lung cancer treatment which is much more expensive than nicotine gum. mainecare requires an endoscope procedure so a member can get prevacid for reflux for longer than a few weeks. Maine is a thousand years behind the curve on prevention. As a taxpayer I would rather pay for preventive care and education that is shown to be effective than pay for major surgery that was preventible. Education is the key for the consumers of mainecare and the state.
No, here’s what we do:
1. No federal subsidies for tobacco.
2. The government does NOT pay people to stop smoking. Is there ANYBODY in Maine, anybody at all, that isn’t aware that smoking is harmful??
3. We proceed to a health insurance program, which just like driver’s insurance, takes into account the VOLUNTARY CHOICES an insured makes, such as
a) riding a motorcycle
b)without a helmet
c) smoking
d) drinking more than 3 drinks/wk
e) obesity
In other words, TAKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES.
If you want to smoke, have at it. But when you decide to quit, DON’T expect me, the taxpayer, to pay for it. And if you have health issues, YOU pay the premium on your health insurance, not the taxpayer.
Not an unrealistic example of fiscal responsibility. It’s well known that cessation products like the patch, gum or inhalers only see an average of 7% success. This would mean that 93% of the time, or approximately 1.1 million dollars of funds are being thrown away that can be put towards other programs such as education or infrastructure improvement. Would YOU continue to fund a program for your family when only 7 cents on the dollar resulted in a returned benefit?
People need help to quit smoking.
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No it is self righteous people like you who think because you pay a couple bucks in taxes you have the the right to treat others with disrespect.
You think that you somehow have a right to spew hate filled comments at the grocery store to the family on food stamps.
You people think that because you pay taxes that is all you have to do for the right to make judgment on someone else whom you do not know.
As far as me being a “taker” because I disagree with your narrow minded hate filled point of view.
You don’t know me and for that I am glad for I have very little tolerance for idiots, but I will guarantee that I paid more in taxes and have done more for my community last year alone then you will ever do in a lifetime.
The costs from smoking related diseases will climb if people don’t try to quit smoking. [One question though, how can medicaid recipients afford to buy cigarettes when they cost so much?] If funding is cut off for ‘ the patch’, and other smoking cessation products, people will keep smoking, and that in itself will result in more medical bills.
You really should spend less time on the internet judging others. Stop ascribing beliefs to others and get out and work for the change that you see fit. If you are so passionate about this stuff, channel that passion instead of just being a sore thumb all day long.
You’ve got to LOVE the new mentality of a nicer, more liberal America. Start smoking, DESPITE all the information that tells you that smoking kills, and then expect a government program to pay for you to quit. No wonder this country is in the dumpster.
Glad you can pat yourself on the back for all you have done for your community…………..what little you know about who I am and what I do……………. I am a 4-H leader, a Wellness coordinator for the company I work for and help Habitat for Humanity building houses, went to New York for the 911clean up and a dozen other things you have no understanding of. So don’t pretend you are some over the top community volunteer who does more than anyone else. And as far as a hate filled rant and paying a few bucks in taxes….I too have a right to say how this money is being spent and for the food stamp family in line at the grocery store……..everyone needs help once in a while….according to you we should keep handing out to every one when ever they ask for it and that is something I don’t agree with you and you are the one claiming I have a narrow mind, while you have blinders on to what should and needs to be done to get a grip on reality. It is time we put our foot down and stop giving and giving. All I want is for morals and decency to be what one stands for and not the world owes me something. . you’re the one who said we need sound fiscal policy………what a joke. That sound policy has been talked about forever and we have gotten no where. I TOO am very thankful not to know you.
I have no tolorance for people who can’t see the obvious and then when you point it out to them they get mad……….Sounds a lot like you. I assume you support things like earmarks and trips for government officials and the money for war but not to feed those families who’s father’s and mother’s are fighting the war……Some of those are losing their houses and what is being done about that………nothing, but blackwater can make millions………Your kind of world is more than just a screwed up mess. Just because I don’t agree with your sense of entitlement for some I am narrow minded………I call it reality and real life
See once again wrong.
I think every last political entitlement program needs to be shut down immediately.No more free lunches for all government officials so to speak.The government itself is the biggest waste of taxpayer monies.To bad you all are to worried about what the person in line at the grocery store is buying and not what the government is spending on daily entitlements.Yes that means ALL government – Tea trolls, republicans and democrats alike.
Why don’t you stop thinking you know what I believe in just because I don’t frisk people at the check out stand for a EBT card so I can treat them with disrespect just so I can feel better about myself.
Oh and no one with your anger issues should be anyplace near children.
“Glad you can pat yourself on the back for all you have done for your community.”
You aren’t so bad at the self congratulatory comments either. Now, go have that shoulder iced down.
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No, these programs CREATE a mindset in the people who use them that makes them weak and incapable of seeing themselves as anything other than victims or poor people who will be forever dependent on handouts and welfare programs. The TRUE war on poverty begins with a war against these ridiculous programs that tell people they can’t achieve anything on their OWN.
I think the point that so many of you are missing is the one I tried to point out to you when the cigarette taxes when up again. The state says, “we will tax cigarettes as an incentive to make people quit smoking.” Yet, from the other side of their metaphorical mouth they write the budget based on those yet to be collected sin taxes. So do they want you to quit, or do they want the continued revenue stream? Which is it? Like the worship of Ayn Rand and Jesus, you can’t have both.
But here, now, they have shown their hand. It is the revenue stream they care about; always did. But so many of you just wouldn’t see it. Better in their minds to have the money now than to worry about paying for the lung cancer later. It has always been thus.
Ayn Rand and Jesus walk into a bar…
Gee, that was productive, thanks.
There are more than enough problems to go around for everyone to share in. If your side hadn’t stalled nearly every bill in Congress, perhaps we would be in a better place.
It is ok, though, feel free to think it is everyone else’s fault; that is surely the way to fix things.
just cut another thing that helps people that should be maine’s motto. cause it sure isn’t the way life should be. i still like my idea of turning this state into a big national park for the country to come see. its a beautiful state .
Everyone seems to agree that the state spends too much money, and will complain about it. When it comes time to make cuts, no one wants to be the one to give anything up.
Come on folks, you can’t have it both ways.
Maine__Girl35, it is, however, an illness created by choice. I created my own addiction to cigarettes; it was not something I picked up from an airborn virus , nor a contact bacteria. The choice was mine. It was my responsibility to choose to stop allowing that addiction to control my life; it was not your responsibility or the responsibility of my neighbor.
krazykatlady, it’s not easy…..many things in life are not easy; however, things that add quality to life are always worthwhile. It isn’t my responsibility to pay for your addictions any more than it is yours to pay for mine.
Smokers: in the time that it took to post a complaint in this forum, you could have googled “help me stop smoking maine” and found a free solution. Just a thought. ;D
I see some can’t take the truth and don’t want my post to be read for fear that I might have more to say than what some can handle. badcopnodoughnut thought his opinion was more important than those of others and now he won’t let others have their say…………….but boy oh boy he sure can. your mother should be proud
and you know what my side is?????????????????????????? by what means