AUGUSTA, Maine — A federal system alerts Maine and other states to tens of thousands of instances of possible fraud and mistakes each quarter, but the state doesn’t have the staff or the money to investigate each case, according to officials. So Maine’s congressional delegation is supporting increased federal funding to help states take full advantage of the data.

“Fraud and abuse are the issues that have been confronting these programs over time, and we need to do all that we can to help the states use this system,” said Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine. She said there has been progress made in the use of the various federal databases to find mistakes and fraud in such huge programs as Medicare and Medicaid.

The Public Assistance Reporting Information System is a voluntary program that generates tens of thousands of instances of possible fraud and mistakes, but states don’t have the staff to sift through the data or determine the validity of the information, said Scott Fitts, Director of the Fraud, Investigation & Recovery Unit at the Maine Department of Health and Human Services.

He said there are several federal lists of individuals that may be receiving food stamps, Medicaid or other safety net programs in more than one state and a data entry mistake on middle initials would flag the file for possible review.

Fitts said the system works on the basis of social security numbers and other federal data submitted by all of the states to the federal government. It covers Medicaid, food stamps, welfare benefits, childcare benefits and workers compensation, and a state can access all of that information quarterly.

“If the states do not have the staff to handle all of this data they are receiving, as I understand is the case in Maine, we should help with staff,” Snowe said.

Fitts said his office cannot follow up all the leads that are received quarterly from the system. Currently nine investigators and they are responsible for all fraud investigations, not just reviewing the leads generated by PARIS, though the Legislature added eight investigators and two support staff positions that will start Jan. 1.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, is the ranking GOP member of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee. She said the Medicare program has about $60 billion a year in improper payments and the Medicaid program another $22 billion. That includes mistakes as well as fraud.

“I believe that the federal government would actually save money by investing in better data collection, ensuring the integrity of the data and assisting the states in using the data,” Collins said. She said while the major savings would be in Medicaid and Medicare programs, it would also yield savings in such programs as welfare payments and food stamps.

“There is also a great deal the federal government can do to improve the integrity of the data that would lessen the burden on the states,” Collins said. She said improved programs for the states to analyze the computer files sent by the federal government would also help.

U.S. Representative Mike Michaud, D-Maine, said as Congress struggles with budget cuts to decrease the federal deficit, reducing fraud and errors should be high on the list. He said it is clear modest investments by Congress could yield big savings.

“If we are going to implement programs to help the states look at fraud, waste and abuse, we also have to provide the resources to there so that states can implement the program,” he said. Michaud said the states should also provide some of the costs of the program because they benefit from any savings found in Medicaid.

U.S. Rep. Chellie Pingree, D-Maine, said a lot of the fraud is provider fraud and the database analysis has resulted in multi-state federal fraud cases. She said with Congress looking at cutting needed programs, errors and fraud should be reduced or eliminated first.

“Frankly, there is nothing more frustrating than being unable to uncover some of the fraud and abuse in the system because you can’t access the data, you can’t utilize the data,” she said.

Collins said her committee is considering legislation that would improve the quality of the data and provide some help to the states to make better use of the information.

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      1.  Oh yea, in your world everything began when LePage was elected!

        Nothing existed before that.

        1. … and in the republican world everything began when Obama was elected.

          Bush, Cheney and the Neocons never existed.

          1. Actually in Maine we can point back to 40 years of mismanagement on the part of Liberals.  Yes, Obama has done a lot to destroy this country in a much shorter period of time then you all took to destroy Maine but you shouldn’t let that destroy the pride in the destruction that your party has accomplished here in our little state.

          2.  OOPS you conveniently forget that 8 years of Mc Kertnan  He was an R by the way,  and it wasn’t 40years ago . KING was an I  and HE wasn’t 40 years ago, either. You all just make things up.

          3. Govornors do not set the budget nor do they write the laws.  As for political leanings of those Govornors you could call ver few of them Conservatives.  They only chose to run as such because the Liberals had already chosen their man.  Maine was run into the dirt long before Bush came along.

          4. And how did he cause the State to get so far off track?
            I mean considering the Democrats ran everything else.

          5. It would be so much easier if you could get your socialist president to kill the first amendment wouldn’t it?

          6. Not at all. I absolutely defend your right to say some of the stupidest things I’ve ever encountered. Why you bother to do so is your business.

  1. There isn’t enough money to investigate because the Democrats have been too busy giving all that assistance out to anyone requesting it! Maybe if they cut assistance to those not eligible, there would be more money for those that are!

    1. Well gee!  How do you suppose the Dems did that with the Repubs in charge of both branches and the Governor?

      1.  Bush got saddled with a Democrate controlled congress after his first 2 years. That is why we got stuck with the housing finical crisis, The Dem pushed to give out risky loans. The only thing Bush did wrong was to not stop it.

        1. Republicans controlled the House until 2006.  Last time I checked 2006 was 6 years after Bush took office.

        2. You are uninformed or a liar. Bush created the low income housing bubble. Democrats helped put it on paper. Both are guilty. Do your homework before you take a public test.

        3.  I think you have it wroing there bob…D’s  had a majority his LAST  2 years,  I believe

      2. “When a republican is president, everything is the republicans fault.  When a democrat is president, everything is the republicans fault.  When democrats rule for 40 years straight, everything is the fault of republicans.”

        That is the oath all democrats take before registering to be a democrat.

    2. That’s because there is no such thing as fraud and abuse. Just ask any Democrat. There is also no such think as voter fraud or illegal immigration.

      1.  well the investigation DID show there was NO voter fraud,  dufus  I  know  it’s an  inconvenient truth…. but true none the less 

    3. I think we should investigate the bejeebers out of alleged welfare fraud.  People who pretend to be needy in order to get money are the lowest of the low.  They take funds and services that are needed by others. And they give important programs a bad name when this is seen to be happening.  It gives the selfish and uncaring among us the excuse they are looking for to cut these necessary programs.
       
      Every lead, tip, statistic, report, suspicion of possible fraud should be followed up.  We should hire more investigators and give them the tools needed to ferret out these lowlifes.  And they should be prosecuted, jailed and, when they get out of jail, escorted to the Portsmouth Bridge.
       
      We should all be on the lookout for possible fraud.  The state has several fraud hotlines you can call and provide anonymous tips on suspected fraud.
       
      http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/how-do-i.shtml?id=79066
       
      Pardon me though if I don’t trust the political party who elected as Speaker of the House a person who has admitted taking millions of undeserved welfare money but who then used bankruptcy laws to avoid paying it back.  These Republicans don’t really seem to care about their needy neighbors.  It seems to be all about the money to them.

      1. I agree with everything you say. I will add that the greed is not just a republican problem. There are more than a fair share of democrats who also abuse the system to make money. 

        As for Nutter and his followers, they desperately need a good old fashioned smack upside the head with prison time for their fraud. Only problem is, the good ol’ boys stick together and cover for one another then laugh at us for being so PO’d that they got away with their crimes. Had that been you or I, we’d still be serving time. 

        1. Sooner or later though, we have to choose.  Obama or Romney; Dill, King or Summers; Michaud or Raye; Pingree or what’s his name…. 
           
          Democrats, in general, seem to care more than Republicans do.
           
          There are what? Eighty Republican representatives in the Maine House?  The best they could find of the eighty for top leader is one who just ripped the welfare system off for $1.2 million?  And then they join together and cut thousands of Mainers who need help from the welfare programs while voting for tax cuts?
           
          Shameful and appalling.
           
          I just sit here and shake my head in wonderment.

    4. There is a cost associated with enforcing any law or rule written to administer a social benefit program.  Unfortunately, government nearly always doesn’t consider these costs and budget for them before some start abusing social programs.  Perhaps it’s time to divert some of the dole money that funds these programs to fund enforcement rather than appropriate more to cover the costs of the programs plus enforcement.

  2. How much money did we waste investigating voter fraud, when the tea party was banging their drum about that issue?  Now we’re going to chase this boogeyman?

    1. You’re right again as usual. Why waste the time and money trying to chase a boogeyman at the tune of $84 billion a year.

      1. That number is made up by someone with an agenda.  No one really knows the actual value of fraud.  And keep in mind, that over the past two months, with both the Mainecare over-enrollment problem and the recent food stamp overpayment, it’s the State that’s actually committing most of the ‘fraud’.

        1. So, with you’re way of reasoning everyone that received overpayment that they were not entitled to are blameless. It was the States fault. That’s the same as finding a poor man’s wallet , take out the cash and throw it in the ditch. Ah, he should of taken better care of it.

          1.  Nope – I’m saying the system is imperfect and always will be.  We can spend all kinds of money chasing boogeymen, but I prefer to understand a problem and know how big it actually is, before I try to fix it.  Don’t you?

          2. I agree with you, that is why I feel it is a worthwile investment to “investigate” the fraud, then attempt to reduce it. However, our Gov’t (State & Fed’l) tends to waste money on everything they touch…

        2. You mean just like you have an agenda??
          (“My agenda is the truth, I tell you! The truth!”  LOL)

    2. There have been welfare fraud convictions. Most notably is the now famous ‘buy cases of bottled water, dump the water & cash-in the returnables to buy booze & cigarettes’ trick. Another good one is the trading of EBT cards on the black market to buy drugs. The list goes on & on, Fraud is rampant.

      1. The list goes on and on, please continue your list, it is pitiful so far.  You need to turn your family members in since they are doing this.

          1. No approval, just not upset over bottled water deposits.
            The people doing this may have been abortions if you had not saved them.

      2. The buy case of bottled water and cash in the returnables amounts to about $3.25 of fraud.  How many dollars an hour are you going to pay an investigator to hunt down the ‘criminal’ engaging in this fraud.  And how much money are you willing to pay the legal system to convict him/her?  This is basic math.

        1. The investment is well worth it in the long run, if the abuses are reduced…the Gov’t (Fed’l & State) wastes plenty of money on lesser things

      3. Because there’s no penalty for getting caught abusing a program(and the chances of being caught are slim to none if noone’s looking for fraud as in the past).

      1.  NONE I’m still waiting for   current Speaker of the Maine house Nutting to pay us back the $3 million+= he owes us.

          1. Yeah, not worth pursuing eh?

            You ignore Speakers $1,200,000 crime, theft against the taxpayers, and chase the poster’s error.

            Nice priorties you have there.

    3. You’ve spent next to nothing either investigating or preventing voter fraud over the last 40 years.  That’s how much you’ve spent.

      1. I do believe that Charlie Summers brought the full power of his office to the fore in the investigation of voter fraud last year. What were the results?

        1. I believe he did nothing of the sort.  Find the details of what he did and the results and you’ll see that.  You can not prove voter fraud if you only prove that no one has ever checked to make sure it was not happening.

          1. Well isn’t that what Charlie Webster did? He was the one that brought it to the states attention. He is the one who accused over 200 college students of voter fraud. He is the one who supposedly found all these fraudulent voters.

            Now either his accusations were totally bogus or Charlie Summers is the most inept secretary of state we have had in a while. Charlie Webster is proving to be one of the most comical party leaders this country has seen in quite a while.

          2. It doesn’t appear that you know any of the facts.  First:  Just because someone says something looks suspicious that doesn’t mean you can get enough evidence to prosecute.
            Webster said something didn’t look right and Summers investigated.
            Here is what he found.
            Summers looked at only 1% of Maine’s population and he found 6 non-US citizens registered to vote with 1 of them having actually voted.77 Students registered in multiple states and 5 of them voted in more than one state in the same year.100’s of clerical errors in only 2 years worth of records with most (79%) being made during elction day registrations.
            There has never been a Quality control audit of the system and we are running off of a system developed in 1860.Voter activity is impossible to verify due to the fact that clerks only keep records for 2 years.
            Still you feel we need ID to buy Cigs and Booze but not to vote.

          3. Did the 5 who voted in more than one state in the same year, vote in the same election? Isn’t it possible to vote in a spring election in one state and move to another in time to register and vote in a fall election? Did Charlie Summers prosecute or bring charges against these 5?

          4. Anything is possible Pa but you can not be a legal Resident everywhere and that is the point here.  Are these people legal residents here for voting purposes or at their homes wherever they may be.  Since there are no laws to retain records for more than 2 years you also can’t do much of an investigation.  Please also notice that he only checked a 1% sample of the voting population.  Not the whole state as some here will claim.
            We have a system that does nothing to protect the integrity of the vote.  Why should we take so much trouble to protect Cigs and Booze but not my vote?

          5. 1% sampling, thats over 10,000 possibles. Now which 1% did Summers investigate? Where they from solidly republican areas or were they all from democratic strong holds? If you were Summers where would you have started your quest?

            It seems that Maine isn’t the only state to raise the boogie man of voter fraud. I believe Pa. has and got new more restrictive voting laws passed. To my knowlege or at least what has been published so far, Pa. has yet to prove that there was evidence of vast or even semi-vast voter fraud in their state. I believe they haven’t been able to come up with anything but a handful of possibles.

            Now ALEC and HPC’s around the country are pushing these law changes. If they have proof of voter fraud, why aren’t they comming forward with the proof? They are beginning to sound more like religious zealots who used inuendo and bald-faced lies to whip up fervor for a witch hunt.

          6. They’ve never looked for fraud.  How in the world could they find it?  The rules are even written so that they won’t have any historical information to look at since they can only hold records for 2 years.  As for where he looked at it is all in his very long report which those of you on the left refuse to even look at.
            Why shouldn’t we show ID to prove who we are, when we have to do it almost everywhere else?

          7. The present system we have here in Maine works just fine for me. When I go to the polls to vote I tell them who I am and they check me off on the registered voters book. If I am already checked off then I can raise hell and say that someone has voted in my name. Or if I show up and my name has been deleted (like they have a habit of doing in Fl. and Ohio), I can register and vote right there.

        1. That isn’t what he found at all.  He found that records did not exist because y0ur party has spent the last 40 years turning a blind eye.  As long as you win you don’t care who votes.
          Feel free to quote his official report anytime.

          1. Who am I kidding.  Chances are your too lazy to do the research yourself which is why you simply stick to your official spin.
            Summers looked at only 1% of Maine’s population and he found
            6 non-US citizens registered to vote with 1 of them having actually voted.
            77 Students registered in multiple states and 5 of them voted in more than one state in the same year.
            100’s of clerical errors in only 2 years worth of records with most (79%) being made during elction day registrations.

            There has never been a Quality control audit of the system and we are running off of a system developed in 1860.
            Voter activity is impossible to verify due to the fact that clerks only keep records for 2 years.

            Still you feel we need ID to buy Cigs and Booze but not to vote.

          2. I didn’t call you lazy.  You showed that you were in your response.  Even in this one you can’t stick to the subject with any substance about the subject.  Neither the Tea Party nor corporations have anything to do with your refusal to protect my voting rights.  You’ll put protections in place to make sure the wrong people don’t buy certain items but not to make sure that the wrong people don’t use my vote.

          1. There doesn’t seem to be much point in my attempting a reasonble conversation with an unreasonable person then does there.

  3. If it was State instead of Federal funds, it would be cost effective to hire more investigators, but since it is Federal money,…..  :(

  4. My suggestion would be to start using some of the MANY state employees that literally have no set position or job function and get THEM to do something.  Maybe the Govnah’s daughter could actually earn her paycheck and get started on this?  It has been my experience that there are so many positions within government that spend all of their time literally checking on someone else, that nothing really seems to get done.  One look at Congress in both the state and federal governments will prove that to yas.

  5. Quote DIRECTLY please: ”
    A federal system alerts Maine *and other states* to tens of thousands of instances of possible fraud and mistakes each quarter”     

    Seriously.  Journalism 101.  Take it.  

    You’re skewing the facts when you paraphrase in journalism, especially incomplete titles like this one!  UGH!

    I can write way better than most of the people at BDN these days and I’m not even an English major!

    1. A lot of us could, maybe we should all form our own online newspaper, our slogan could be “We have editors!”

        1. Of course, so without making the slogna long and boring it should read “We have journalists that can write, we have editors, and we check for accurate information and provide up to date pictures” Maybe that should be in the “about us” section

  6. I was dumbfounded listening to a former legislator that the amount of fraud in our state was negligible. I stood there in disbelief thinking “You don’t get out much.” We’re just handing out excuses for people to never work again.  *DISCLAIMER* (for those honestly looking for work, this comment is not for you). These days the more kids you have, the more financially secure you are living off the state.

    1.  Let’s make it so no more additional money for babies born once the family is on tanf. New jersey did it so why can’t it work in ME?

      1. Yes, let’s be sure to crucify the innocent.  Sorry, Junior, your sperm donor and his mate are on TANF,and you brought this on yourself by choosing to be born into this family.  Just gotta’ love those Repugnantcans.`

        1. Hold on. If a family can not afford the first child, why would they even want to have another if they can’t afford to care for it? Why should we pay and pay for these babymakers and their ilk? 
          There is something to be said for personal responsibility. 

    2.  COULD it be what you think you “see ” as  fraud , isn’t ?  It’s just your judgement of others? Yup you can buy lobster and steak and soda  and even bottled water with  food stamps. ( no fraud) And YUP you can use your TANF  to buy beer and cigs. and taottos  to your little hearts desire.  ( no fraud)  Of course then you can’t pay your rent BUT…

  7. So, if  fraud can’t be rooted out, why don’t we just switch terms and use “honest graft?” It sounds nice enough doesn’t it?  It suggests an amount of good being done. It worked for Plunkett of Tammany Hall, back in the day when you handed sewer contracts to your cousin, appointed your brother Attorney-General, charged a little extra for services provided, perhaps hired your daughter to a well-paid post for which she has little talent. The public got some service and so did the family. We’d all feel much better, right? Speaker Nutting would agree to it, I’m sure. 

  8. If people didn’t make a lifetime career of ‘milking the system’ then maybe there would be less abuse of the system.  Put a limit on how long people can receive benifits, say like 3 years as an example, then cut them off…..  There are other federal programs that can take over if warranted…..  It is time for welfare reform along with a mind reform…. If you can’t find work after that, then move the hell out of Maine where there is work…  North Dakota is crying for help…  Oh, I forgot, the work is probably beneath you.

    1. Great idea, move to N. Dakota. Umm, have you checked it out? Winter get’s pretty cold there and there is not enough housing or places to park a travel trailer to house you.

      1. Well then move to Washington…..  Probably can find work in the WH….  mmm, second thought, might want to wait until after the election….

        1. Yep they are but if you have shelter here, would you sell out in this market to go somewhere that you may have to live in a tent?

    2. Corporate welfare is the real problem. Companies need to start paying a living wage, then these people will have an incentive to work.

    3.  there is now in ME a 5 yr time limit on TANF. clients can request a “hardship extension” but few have been approved.

    4.  There already IS a  lifetime  limit on how long people can be on Tanf… another  myth ( lie ) shattered.

  9. How about putting the monkey on the payee’s back instead of the payor’s. When a payee is flagged simply send them a notice that they have 90 days to validate their claim and if they fail to do so within the allotted time their benefits will be terminated. They’re the ones getting the benefits, make them work for it!

    1. I hate to tell you this Dan but that makes to much sense and it might just work. So that could never be implemented.

  10. I misplaced 84 billion last year, and I will be hog swallowed if I can find it. It must be fraud. Maybe I frauded myself. Can’t remember now. Oh yea, I am up for relection this fall, don’t forget to vote!

  11. Let’s hope one of the resources that will be added in this battle against fraud is increased manpower in the form more investigator jobs. 

  12. This is the perfect place for all the do nothing and get paid big bucks people that the gov. was talking about.Oh wait a minute maybe this is what all the friends and relatives and companies of the lawmakers are waiting for more white collar jobs.

  13. OK, so we don’t have the funds to investigate all welfare fraud.

    That being the case, why not do like trauma units and triage. Take the worst cases or those that goble up the most money and look them over with a microscope.

    To my knowledge the biggest outlays of welfare are those getting ‘Corporate Welfare’. Now I would think that if we start at the top and work our way down it would be more cost effective and with much more return for the tax payers.

        1. Let’s start with corn (ethanol & High-fructose corn syrup) subsidies then tax the soda at a higher rate like tobacco…

  14. Maybe…  Just Maybe… If police departments didn’t spend a quarter million dollars on a Chinese made Hum-V, the state would have money to investigate fraud.  However, fraud “IS” what’s spending the money needed to investigate internally. 

      1.  OOPS more “experience matters” . So Lepage is learning  the same thing  that others who have gone  before him have  learned ,  it costs MONEY to ferret out fraud. So you need to decide how to spend limited resources to get the most bang for the buck. The most bang for the buck is in service provider fraud (not recipient fraud) . Yup people are afraid to go after  the BIG players ” gaming the system”–health care professionals .

  15. Who runs this state??? I beganing to think the welfare does and its to point now where its overtaking  us taxpayers.  

    1. We the taxpayers (Income taxes) represent <50% of the population in Maine currently…soon we will be overtaken

  16. Oh really?  Maybe if you hired the competent people   that did  “Audits”   this never would of happened in the first place.  You have a lot of people up here looking for work. You need to eliminate most of the employees  that have no clue what they are doing. Hire those that are competent,   The way this department is being run it’s a waste of tax payers money.  The whole department is a joke. 

    1. No this is what you get when you the people of  Maine wants cuts   cut  cut  cut so you are now paying for all the cuts

  17. Why is it necessary to have cable TV to know that my opinions are worthless? 

    I suppose you have a theory about that as well?

    1. He obviously is another reading-challenged tea partier, Bangorian.  Think Faux news, Rush Limpbag, et al.  You just have to love the way they operate.   Open their sponge brains, let ALEC and MHPC pour in their rubbish, and when it’s fully absorbed, they’re “informed” for another day. 

    2. I probably could have chosen a better metaphor, but television news often does stories on this type of fraud.

      _____

  18. The state is  now trying to  get the fed computer system to save them a dollar. They can blame the fed system instead of taking any blame for something . Throw the ball into the other court.

    1. That is SOP for the GOP, is it not?  And Maine’s (mis)administration is a prime example.

  19. and this article would have been nowhere to be found 2-3 years ago.

    Maybe if it wasn’t so easy to get the assistance in the first place, there wouldn’t be as many cases of fraud that needed to be investigated.

    1. How many millions of  Dollars has been misused or lost by the DHS.  Bookkeeping mistakes, bad investments, careless oversights.   This Dept. needs to be cleared out, everyone fired, especially the top management, and start over  with very critical background checks into everyone that is hired, and random checking on all their books.  Everytime this happens, the powers that be stick their heads in the sand, and pass more cuts onto the people that need it most.  Get the ones off welfare that can work, and those that are collecting because of fraud in disability payments. These programs are over abused.  Maybe we need to go back to the old surplus food lines, and then let them work for themselves to put a roof over their heads by finding a job.  Only allow them to claim one child, instead of mass producing so they can collect more money.

    2.  I hate to tell you  but Baldacci “went after” fraud too ….Yup and it was in the paper  He caught Nutting ,among others .Nutting  wasn’t the ONLY  pharamcist ripping off the system. He was the only one who didn’t pay it back.

  20. We have the money to spend on “waste, fraud and abuse” but not to investigate those things?  To me, that’s twisted logic. Sen. Colins said…”the Medicare program has about $60 billion a year in improper payments and the Medicaid program another $22 billion.”  They must have some fairly specific evidence to come up with those figures, evidence which should be investigated. To tell “cheaters” that we don’t have the money to investigate only encourages them. If we investigated all possible fraud, it would soon start to dry up.

    Even our present Speaker of the Maine House of Representatives “over-billed” Medicare for about $1.6 million, which he says was a “mistake”.  Had we had a system to adequately audit Medicare claims, his “mistake” wouldn’t have grown so large before it was detected.

    1. With money like that the air force, army and navy could buy all kinds of things that they neither want nor need. But buy them they will and do.

      We pour thousands of times more dollars than that down the military industrial complex rat hole.

      Your outrage seems misplaced and could save us more money if you look down that rat hole.

      1. I agree; I was just addressing the “rathole” under discussion. Whatever “rathole” money is being poured down should be audited, investigated, or whatever. “Mistakes” should be corrected and those who commit intentional fraud should be prosecuted.  I’d gladly pay a little more in taxes to hire the necessary auditors and investigators to do the job. And the 80-some billion dollars in benefit fraud is hardly “chicken feed”.

  21. How many millions of  Dollars has been misused or lost by the DHS.  Bookkeeping mistakes, bad investments, careless oversights.   This Dept. needs to be cleared out, everyone fired, especially the top management, and start over  with very critical background checks into everyone that is hired, and random checking on all their books.  Everytime this happens, the powers that be stick their heads in the sand, and pass more cuts onto the people that need it most.  Get the ones off welfare that can work, and those that are collecting because of fraud in disability payments. These programs are over abused.  Maybe we need to go back to the old surplus food lines, and then let them work for themselves to put a roof over their heads by finding a job.  Only allow them to claim one child, instead of mass producing so they can collect more money.

  22. Never mind playing the name game, rep/dem,  let us play the fix it game, and that is by going back to the beginning, with surplus food,  and only the proven Disabled,  and the elderly get other benefits,  stop letting people come across our borders from Mass, and NH, and others, get welfare without establishing residency of at least a year, and do not hand out welfare, or other benefits to illegals.

  23. I recently had an employee just stop showing up for work one day. No notice, nothing. About a week later I got a form from DHHS that he had signed up for welfare, asking me about his earnings and the reason he is no longer employed here. I certainly hope he did not get approved for benefits, but with the state of the current program, who knows? Too much is falling between the cracks. I understand it takes money to “find” the fraud, but holy moly, this is WAY out of control!

  24. Prosecuting crime is not always “for profit”. Fine the ones caught, make them ineligible for benefits so it has a deterrent effect. EBT cards get sold for cents on the dollar, many different ways to convert them to cash or other items. I have seen the ebt card come out and pay for the food and then the half gallon of whiskey and carton of cigs goes next, EBT being used at the organic farmer’s market buying exorbitantly priced food, run on lobsters and seafood the day the cards get loaded, none of this is even illegal but it is not appropriate, so I am willing to spend some tax money to investigate and prosecute the abusers because it has gotten out of hand, well intentioned I am sure to start with but moral hazard has taken over

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