WASHINGTON — The culture wars in this country have grown so acute that we can’t even agree to support a patriotic, faith-affirming, achievement-oriented group like the Girl Scouts.
I smile when girls from the local troop stand nervously on my doorstep and ask me to buy Thin Mints and Trefoils. I see the next generation of a treasured institution about to celebrate 100 years of giving girls a chance to hike and camp, learn skills such as gardening and first aid, and build character and leadership.
But some religious conservatives see something very different: representatives of a dangerous, secular organization that aggressively promotes abortion and quietly encourages paganism, homosexuality and other alleged social ailments.
It’s ill-informed nonsense. Nonetheless, it’s spawned a smear campaign against the Girl Scouts that’s starting to have an impact.
Conservative activists have used social media to encourage parents to boycott cookie sales, pull their daughters out of scouts and push churches not to provide meeting spaces for troops.
This month, for the first time in our area, a church bowed to the pressure. St. Timothy Roman Catholic parish in Chantilly in Fairfax County, Va., ousted 12 troops with 115 girls. In Alexandria, Va., St. Rita Catholic Church is reportedly considering doing the same.
At St. Timothy, Rev. Gerald Weymes told Scout leaders that they could no longer use church or parochial school facilities after the current school year. He didn’t offer a public explanation and wasn’t giving interviews.
But the diocese didn’t deny reports that St. Timothy was unhappy with the U.S. Girl Scout organization’s membership in the international girl scouting association, called the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts.
The World Association, which has members in 145 countries, supports access to contraception and is also often accused of backing abortion and being affiliated with Planned Parenthood.
To appreciate the extremity of the church’s action, consider the following: America’s Girl Scouts say explicitly, repeatedly, at the neighborhood, regional and national levels, that they have no stance on birth control or abortion.
No Girl Scout dues or proceeds from cookie sales go to the international group. Rebecca Munro, a spokeswoman for the international association in London, said it has no position on abortion and no relationship with Planned Parenthood.
“Misinformation is passing as fact,” Diane Tipton, president of the Girl Scout Council of the Nation’s Capital, said in a recent statement responding to St. Timothy’s move. “The Girl Scout organization does not take a position on abortion or birth control, and these topics are not part of the Girl Scout program or our materials. We believe these matters are best discussed by girls with their families.”
Such avowals haven’t dissuaded the critics. They are convinced the Girl Scouts are secretly promoting abortion under guise of teaching knots and scrapbooking.
That didn’t square with the experience of local Girl Scout adult leaders whom I interviewed.
“I have never come across anything that’s pro-life or pro-choice in any of our council literature or any of our national literature,” said Kathy Sears, a troop adviser and adult trainer who lives in Calvert County, Md.
Another defender of the scouts is the National Federation for Catholic Youth Ministry, a group that ought to have some credibility with Catholics. It’s an official church organization and has been actively investigating — and mostly refuting — the accusations for several years.
The federation’s Web site devotes a page to knocking down rumors. Girl Scouts support Planned Parenthood? “Not true,” the federation says. Girl Scout law does not refer to God anymore? “Not true.”
The federation has some concerns about the international association but thinks that doesn’t justify rejecting American Girl Scouts altogether.
“It’s the whole thing of guilt by association. Does one policy with which you can’t agree prevent you from being involved in broader coalitions? My position is that the only way you can advocate for the church’s position is to be engaged in the dialogue,” said Robert McCarty, the federation’s executive director.
Some Girl Scout leaders in the area wish St. Timothy had adopted a similar, broad-minded attitude.
“I’m not sure that [Rev. Weymes] has made his decision based on any real fact,” said one adult leader from Chantilly, who spoke on condition of anonymity because she feared alienating the church. “I think it’s unfortunate that somebody makes a decision, and other people assume it’s right and act accordingly, and it kind of snowballs.”
Happily, the controversy doesn’t seem to be hurting this year’s cookie sales. Lidia Soto-Harmon, chief executive of the Washington area council, said initial orders were up more than 6 percent.
I say, let’s all cast a vote for girls with backpacks and against disinformation. When the neighborhood girls ring your doorbell, order an extra couple of boxes.



people get crazier and crazier every year. My cookie order this year came to 92$ and I
m proud on it. I was a girl scout till I was 18, then a leader and assistant leader. And the second my girl turns five I will be a daisy troop leader. It brings fantastic oppertunites, oppertunities that I wouldn’t have had a s a kid if it wasnt for the girl scouts.
Weird. If I were to say I have any concerns with my daughter being in Girl Scouts, it would be because they were pushing too much religion. Well–I am going to buy a TON of cookies this year!
I wish people would buy more. My daughter is far from reaching the mark she set for herself.
I bought my share..and will probably buy more when they sell in front of the stores
Scouting seems to be on it’s way out, which is too bad because I loved it as a kid. The Mormon’s have basically hijacked the Boy Scouts. It’s become more militant than it used to be and far too homophobic and conservative for me to expose my kids to. It’s unfortunate that Scouting can’t just be about camping, earning merit badges and having fun.
Yeah, we see all those militant Mormons at our scout meetings chanting about the wonders of Joseph Smith.
What planet are you on other than planet hate?
I assume that you are joking, but on the off-chance that you are not, here’s a legitimate, cited reference – – – – – >
Role of Scouting in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Recognized as a part of the Boy Scouts of America in 1913,
Scouting in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints works to provide leisure-time activities, particularly along spiritual and cultural lines, for the young men of the Church. The Scouting unit within the Church is an extension of the home and Church and functions as an integral part of the Church’s activity program. A Cub Scout pack, Boy Scout troop, and Varsity team should be chartered by every ward and branch that has two or more boys of the particular age served by the program.
Venturing is optional, but recommended, as the activity of the priests’ quorum.
The Church uses age instead of school grade to determine membership in Scouting programs. Separate age-group units are encouraged to maintain quorum integrity, identity, and lines of authority.
http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSheets/operating_orgs/Latter-day_Saints.aspx
sounds like his planet at least teaches its people to do some research.
what do they do on your planet?
don’t the mormons believe we all get our own planet and become like gods?
Well I kind of agree with the strong tie to religion. Carlson did not help . Homophobic well I would like positive role models. I feel gays Would be watched more closely so would be less likely to abuse kids (less operatunity ) Te ones they least suspect are more likely to get away with it.
David – I think you are pretty out to lunch. If you believe that there’s some kind of link between homosexuality and pedophilia, then I don’t have any time for you.
The role model that I hope my kids discover is one that is smart, educated, open-minded and more than a few levels above what you just posted.
I do not have a problem with Gays in boyscouts, scouts do. My saying that they would be watched more closely meaning they would be much less likely to abuse than a married man or church leader. Do I want one that has pieced ears and puts on make up No . No issue with an openly gay scout leader here. Guess you took it the wrong way because I did not explain myself.
Homosexual can be pedophiles look look at Carlson oh wait he was married. I do not know if they would be more or less likely to abuse a boy anyone could. My saying is the bias society has against them would give one less chance . I have no issue with gay people as a whole.
A child is 11 times more likely to be a victim of abuse at the hands of a heterosexual than a homosexual.
Not all Boy Scout units are chartered directly by churches. I’m sure you can find a unit for your kids that is acceptable for you.
MOST are not…they meet in schools quite often
Oh good Lord! Next the smear group will be saying because it is a girls only camp they are going to, the must be learning to be lesbians. Sheesh people! Stop this nonsense!!!!
You must have missed this one and I’m in support of this child joining.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/girl-scouts-reverse-stance-and-accept-little-boy-who-wants-to-join/
The Girl Scouts of Colorado has flip-flopped on a decision not to let a 7-year-old boy join their organization, now saying he is welcome even though he’s not a girl.Bobby Montoya plays with Barbie dolls and My Little Ponies. He’s a boy, but dresses and identifies as a girl. And just like his older sister, he decided he wanted to join the Girl Scouts.
Those darn “Conservative Activists” have a real knack of making everying in America feel dirty don’t they? Now they want to harass the girl scouts with insane claims that they are “Representatives of a dangerous, secular organization that aggressively promotes abortion and quietly encourages paganism, homosexuality and other alleged social ailments.” Hmm…does anyone else think that perhaps it’s not little girls that are the problem here? In the meantime I’m still waiting on my cookie orders to come in.
As often as I disagree with you, I agree with you 100% on this one.
You know of course that these “Conservative Activists” also frequently use the exact same phrases and strategies to smear and discredit any individual or group that isn’t 100% sucked into their conservative ideology? Obviously you side with the Girl Scouts here because you know them first hand and aren’t willing to blindly accept dishonorable/insane attacks upon them. Perhaps if you knew more liberals and more about liberal thinking you would not so often come to the defense of people who use smears and lies to discredit ANYONE or ANY group of their choosing? I hope this little story helps you to open your mind and think more critically of those who use such techniques. After all, if you often lay with Jackals you of course run the risk of eventually being mistaken as one.
Now don’t go trying to smear me there “StillRelaxin.” “Perhaps if you knew more liberals and more about liberal thinking you would not so often come to the defense of people who use smears and lies to discredit ANYONE or ANY group of their choosing?” How about the fact that I’m engaged to marry one in October? I consider myself Independent and maybe even more Libertarian as I can agree with both sides of the aisle. I don’t much care for the radicals on either side and wish we would ALL stop smearing the other side and playing the blame game. We need to work together to bring this great country back to the way it was.
” You know of course that these “Conservative Activists” also frequently use the exact same phrases and strategies to smear and discredit any individual or group that isn’t 100% sucked into their conservative ideology?”
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Are you saying it’s a conservative cookie-cutter reaction?
:)
I had assumed that Girl Scouts mirrored Boy Scouts’ backwards and discriminatory practices. I’m happy to learn that I was wrong. Go Girl Scouts!
Washington Post defending its fellow leftists. Figures.
It’s not smears. Just go to any of the several websites set up by brave Girl Scouts themselves, in an effort to try to reclaim that great organization from the left and its political agenda. You’ll see it all in gory detail for yourself. Or as the old saying goes, “who ya gonna believe: me or your lying eyes??…”
You mean reclaim it from those trying to defend freedom and our glorious constitution, right?
I have no idea what you just wrote. How about posting a link so we can see what you are referring to. I have to see it to believe it and, so far, I haven’t seen anything leftist about our local Girl Scouts. They are non-political as far as I can see.
BDN doesn’t usually allow links, but try this: http://www.honestgirlscouts.com/
Or just google honest girl scouts.
Beware if you have a daughter.
Ha ha. looks like a sight created by the same people who are spreading the dirt. You know anyone can create a website, and seeing it is a .com and not a .org, it seems to be into making a profit, or not wanting to report who is funding it. This proves nothing.
I went to the website. All I saw was a lot of hate and the spreading of fear. It looks like the Tea Party has infiltrated the GSA!
Of COURSE that’s all you saw.
That website is in no way a girl scout weebsite but a far right slander site trying to hide it’s true intentions
“There’s no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.
The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario.—(this is the pertinent part) Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.”
are you a poster child ?
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act” (Orwell).
most of the deceit is coming from the right wing
Truth? Where?
That may explain the reactionaries who post here.
Yes, I think it does :)
No surprise … Sounds like “generational poverty’ off shoot …. Stupid people raising stupid kids ….
“brave Girl Scouts”
How about conservative fools set up by lies.I feel bad for those girls you speak of who can’t think for themselves.I know of one in my town.I am going to give the GS $$ today to help them out.I’d never believe anything you posted.
Believe you? Why?
My biggest complaint about the Girl Scouts is that the cookies aren’t as good as they used to be. It turns out that not all of the cookies are made by the original company. Only certain Troops get the real thing, the other Troops get knock-offs from other companies. As far as Leftist influences go, the Troop I buy from get the knock-offs, but my friend from Conservative West Virginia gets to buy the real thing. Seems to me the Right Wingers win on the cookies! :)
I think you will find there are two companies that switch back and forth, and have for many years now.
Are either the original company? I still buy the cookies to support the cause, but they really do not taste like the same cookies I bought 20 years ago.
This may be the source of conservative/reactionaries desire to smear the Girl Scouts.
Girl Scout Program
The Architecture of Inclusion
Diversity has been a core value of Girl Scouts since its founding in 1912. ……….The foundation of diversity that Juliette Gordon Low established runs throughout Girl Scouting to this day. Our mission to build “girls of courage, confidence, and character, who make the world a better place” extends to all girls of this nation. ………
……….As we face a complex and rapidly changing 21st century, our nation needs all girls to reach their full potential. Over the course of their lives, the lessons learned in Girl Scouting will help girls contribute more to their families and communities as well as the nation’s workforce and leadership.
Absolutely nothing worse than letting those “diverse” women learn how to stand up, demand respect and act like leaders.
True, religious conservatives hate strong women and are deathly afraid of them.
I was a Brownie Scout and graduated into a Girl Scout and later became a leader. Well, I can tell you that this organization is one of the best in the country. I am a registered Republican who will soon be changing parties, because the push behind this drive to decimate Scouts is driven by the men of the Republican sect who want women home, barefoot and pregnant.
This is typical conservative republican crap, lying, distorting. I am just amazed because I assume that the Girl Scouts push God and religion the same as the boy scouts. What losers, they are shooting themselves in the foot. If I was a scout booted from a church and accused of things not true, i would neever step foot in that church again. Get back at them, boycott the ones that bow to pressure and perpetuate the lies. How can you claim to be religious, when you spread rumors and lies.
If you do not want your daughter to join the girl scouts because you think they are pro choice and are evil to god, or whatever… Start up a branch of Explorer Girls. They’re an extremely christian version of the girl scouts. They do all the things girl scouts do, but put a religious message to it. Easy solution.
no it’s not an easy solution because these people are allowed to influence people with their smear tactics and fear mongering. The Girl Scouts aren’t the problem it’s the people that are allowed to continue this in the name of religion….makes me glad I’m an Aetheist because if there was a god why would he let this kind of stuff go on….
Great point.Look up Jessica Ahlquist of RI.She is a truly brave girl who is working with the FFRF.See what was done to her including death threats.
Let’s suppose that the Girl Scouts have connections with Planned Parenthood. So what?
How is this something so bad the Girl Scouts have to be smeared and lied about.
Birth control is legal, sex education is legal, abortion is legal, Planned Parenthood is legal, it serves many needs of women.
Girls will become women. They need to know about the services that will be available to them as women or to others that they may need to advise. Planned Parenthood would be one of those services, along with family counseling services, financial services, educational services, health services, catering services, baby sitting services, legal services
You have to understand that the Catholic Church and the Evangelicals out there don’t want women to be able to think on their own and use the brain that god gave them. To the Catholic Church women are there to serve the men, bear their children until they can no longer conceive. Much like the Muslims and many other far eastern religions.
Brilliantly said.The CC has hurt women and children for centuries.
I think you failed to include those devil Mormons in your rant…
And the Mormans. There! Fixed;)
That’s exactly why these old white men are so terrified.You hit the nail on the head.Imagine if most of the countries of the world were run by women.We’d be a lot better off.Christian conservatives are dying off,thankfully.We need to have a party when the last one goes.
Religion the root of all evil.
“But some religious conservatives see something very different:
representatives of a dangerous, secular organization that aggressively
promotes abortion and quietly encourages paganism, homosexuality and
other alleged social ailments.
It’s ill-informed nonsense. Nonetheless, it’s spawned a smear
campaign against the Girl Scouts that’s starting to have an impact.”
If your going to shout it down as ill-informed nonsense, at least have the decency to provide evidence. Otherwise, all the reader has is your opinion. You can make room for facts in an opinion piece. They tend to strengthen your argument.
As it is, all I have to refute the claims is your word. And well, you are a writer/journalist. Your about as trustworthy as a politician. And that might be a disservice to the politician.
It is obvious you are on the “other” side of this culture war. Provide facts to support your case instead of leading us to another organization stating “not true.” Not true how? Prove to us it is not true.
About as much facts and valid opservations as the smear side, probably even more.
That friggin’ internet thing makes whitewashing so much harder these days, doesn’t it BDN.
I feel for ya….
I’ve often thought the Girl and Boy Scouts should be required to either change their organizations’ names or get out there and engage in some actual scouting. Until they can come back to headquarters and report on the location, deployment, movements, and probable strength of an enemy force, they’re not scouting, they’re just bloody camping. :)
The Church says Girl Scouts are bad, other than when the office in Brewer discriminated against one of their own, it’s a good club for kids to join.
Lets look at the Church. In recent years it’s been exposed as child molesting in apparent large numbers.
Some faith’s believe you can go to church once a week, confess you swore, drank, fornicated, stole, lied but a few sayings and your all good to go. Another faith believes, talking in tongues and physcial horizontal positions are holy. Yet another faith feels only a small amount will go to heaven and serve the Lord. Some faiths believe you can’t do anything right cause everything is wrong.
My Mama always says “Clean up your own back yard before you complain about your neighbors.”
Scintillate: Good rundown on the sins and pecularities of the churches. One glaring error. You forgot the sect that believes in magic underwear.
I did, thanks :))
It’s another tentacle of the conservative divide and conquer strategy. If ordinary folks don’t learn as children how to work within groups or civil institutions, they’ll never do things later in life like join unions, civic associations, participate with others in political parties, or god forbid join together with others to protest or to change things.
There’s always got to be some boogeyman for these people. And they’ve got a bunch of pre packaged rhetorical responses when challenged. They’re usually along the lines of “You’re blind to reality”, or “The elites think you’re stupid and are leading you down the primrose path”.
From Jim Crow to Right to Work laws right on down the line to means testing for social security, the birthed
The birther movement, demonizing nurses, cops, firefighters and welfare recipients, Glenn Beck’s attempt recently to steer people out of churches that preach social justice to this latest flap over the girl scouts, it’s pretty clear that the movement here is to break us into tiny pieces. To what end, I don’t know.
Probably a simple attempt to counter-act the Occupy movement along with the teaching of Saul Alinsky.
WTSawyer: The funny thing about Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals is that it’s the play book for the conservative movement.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/cw/post.php?id=621
Here is why many Catholics do not support the Girl Scouts.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/cw/post.php?id=621
I was wondering when the media was going to pick up this story.No surprise conservatives will damage anything or anyone they can.Shame on them for using children as pawns.Oops I forgot the Children’s Crusade ten centuries ago.Looks like this has been in their playbook a long time. SHAME!
Religious conservatives are getting crazier and crazier by the day.
It is plain that one of their ultimate goals is to turn the clock back on female rights… to make sure they have no rights over their body… to keep them ‘barefoot and pregnant’ and without power.
I find myself trying to figure out just who the bad guys and good guys are in these conversations. Political correctness has hijacked common sense. I am a died in the wool conservative, as anyone who enters this forum knows but I am offended at the thought that some would now attempt to make the Girl Scouts of America a target for something this stupid. Whatever happened to live and let live??????????? How about morals and common decency??????? I don’t agree with libs on much but on this one I say pass the cookies!
Thanks for a voice of reason. I’m hoping there is a box of GirlScout cookies just for you.
OK, That does it. I’m sending a check to the Girl Scouts right now. Any organization that the American Society for the Severely Emotionally Stupid is against, I’m for.
te misinformation is comingfrom teh gilr scouts themselves. they have a heirarchy taking in big salaries, expensive trips, and doing less and less for teh actual scouting part of teh operation. Before people wiated anxiously for teh girl scout cookies to go on sale..they were good, plentiful tassty adn went into the coffers of teh scouting organisation. now the boxes are big, few cookies, less tasty adn a whole lot more money than what they will ever be worth.