Proposal would make governor’s ‘working papers’ off limits

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Gov. Paul LePage pauses as he answers questions at a news conference at the State House in Augusta on Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011.
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Gov. Paul LePage pauses as he answers questions at a news conference at the State House in Augusta on Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011.

AUGUSTA, Maine — Members of the state’s right-to-know advisory committee on Thursday approved a proposal from the governor’s office that would exempt all of his “working papers” from the Freedom of Access Act, perhaps until the end of each legislative session.

The right-to-know advisory committee is made up of media members, lawmakers and other state officials representing the areas of law enforcement, schools, courts, counties, municipalities and the public.

In a 10-5 vote, that committee recommended the Legislature’s Judiciary Committee — and ultimately the full Legislature — approve the governor’s exemption next session.

The Legislature long has enjoyed the same exemption for working papers, broadly defined as anything written down that could contribute to proposed legislation.

Michael Cianchette, deputy counsel for Gov. Paul LePage, said Friday his request simply allows the governor and his inner circle to have the same privilege as lawmakers.

Sen. David Hastings, R-Fryeburg, one of two legislators on the committee, said he supports an exemption both for lawmakers and the governor.

“I’ve never really given this a lot of thought, but no one has ever asked me for anything I would consider a working paper,” Hastings said. “The exemption has never been a problem that I know of … Everything will become public eventually.”

Other members of the committee disagreed.

“This runs completely contrary to what the governor has said about transparency,” said Judy Meyer, managing editor of the Lewiston Sun Journal and co-chairman of the right-to-know committee. “It’s hypocritical.”

Meyer said she and some other members of the committee support removing the Legislature’s exemption, too. Before the committee’s vote on the governor’s exemption, member Mal Leary made a motion on Thursday to remove the legislators’ exemptions from Maine’s FOAA.

That motion failed.

“They should not continue to exempt themselves,” said Leary, who runs Capitol News Service out of the State House. “We hear a lot of rhetoric on the floor of the House and Senate talking about open government, yet they’ve kept this little carved-out piece where they’re exempt from the law.”

Shenna Bellows, director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Maine and a right-to-know advisory committee member, also opposed any exemptions for the governor or lawmakers.

“I think as an organization that advocates for privacy I understand very deeply the desire for privacy even when you have nothing to hide,” Bellows said during Thursday’s meeting. “At the same time, I think our elected officials have a higher responsibility and I don’t think information is dangerous. I think information is healthy.”

The issue with the governor’s office dates back several months.

In a letter sent to members of the right-to-know advisory committee in July, Gov. LePage said he believes that “an open government is an honest government.” However, the governor also said he had concerns about what constitutes government business.

“We have received [FOAA] requests for all grocery receipts from the Blaine House,” he wrote. “The staff of the Blaine House conducts the shopping — it is not something I involve myself in. I understand that taxpayers have a legitimate right to know the amount of money being spent in their house, but the intimate details of our diet goes far beyond funds and into the private details of my family’s life.”

LePage also said he believes some people have been abusing Maine’s FOAA for political purposes and that concern is what prompted the recent request, according to Cianchette.

“My office has received a number of incredibly broad requests that have taken hours and hours of staff time,” LePage wrote in July. “While my team has diligently responded to these requests, none of the information has actually been made public by the requester. They were made simply to gum up the work of my office and prevent us from moving initiatives forward.”

Partisan records requests are not new, though. When Gov. John Baldacci was in office, Republicans and even some Democrats often used the FOAA law to get information, according to Leary.

Under Maine statute, official records of the Legislature itself are subject to the Freedom of Access Act. However, all legislative papers and reports, working papers, drafts, internal memoranda and similar works in progress are not public until signed and publicly distributed in accordance with rules of the Legislature.

By comparison, records of the executives, such as governor, mayor or commissioner of a department, are subject to the FOAA if the records have been received or prepared for use in connection with the transaction of public or government business, or if they contain information relating to the transaction of public or governmental business.

Cianchette said the governor’s exemption largely would mirror what is on the books for the Legislature.

“It doesn’t cut against transparency because as soon as a bill is presented, all documents become public,” he said. “This just protects the decision-making process.”

Hastings quipped on Thursday that lawmakers sometimes say some pretty dumb things during the process that the public doesn’t necessarily need to hear.

Neither portion of Maine’s FOAA related to the executive and legislative branch has been litigated, according to Portland-based attorney Sigmund Schutz, who specializes in media law.

Other states are split on this issue, but there are fewer states that exempt their governor’s offices from public records laws than states that have no exemptions, according to the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. However, in Massachusetts, which does not have an exemption for the executives, Gov. Deval Patrick has asserted successfully that he is exempt from the state’s public records law.

L. Sandy Maisel, professor of government at Colby College, said Friday he sides with the governor on this issue.

“I guess it depends on what working papers are, but if they are internal documents used to help him make a decision, it seems that they should be protected,” he said. “You don’t want a chief executive who is so isolated and whose aides are refrained from giving controversial advice.”

Maisel said he actually thinks an exemption for the executive branch makes more sense than one for the Legislature.

Lance Dutson, chief executive officer of the conservative Maine Heritage Policy Center, an organization that frequently lobbies for transparency and open government, initially said he supports an exemption for the governor, although he had not reviewed the proposal.

“Without it, the risk is that political parties will constantly [request records] of each other,” he said Friday.

On Saturday, Dutson indicated in an email that he does not support what was proposed by the governor’s office.

Meyer had a hard time accepting the governor’s motive. Initially, she said, he was concerned about turning over grocery receipts, but that quickly morphed into all business conducted by the governor’s office. Leary’s biggest concern was the lack of a definition for “working papers.”

The Legislature’s Judiciary Committee is expected to take up the matter in January..

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  • Tyke

    Lepage promised to have the most transparent administration in the history of the state.

    Another lie.

    And they are trying to pretend it does not impact transparency because we can see the papers after everything is over and done with and the laws is on the books.

    That can often be too late to do anything and is is a tightening of the rules and thus reduces transparency — you do not run “the most transparent administration in history” as Lepage promise by REDUCING transparency!

  • Anonymous

    Quoting Maisel as a source for commentary on government is like relying on the Maine Heritage Policy Center for statistics.   He supported the Bush/Cheney secrecy so its no surprise he would support the governor.  I always find its interesting how politicians (and government professors in this case) always want “transparency in government” unless its their policies and and agendas that are subject to scrutiny.

  • Anonymous

    Any diminution of transparency, in anything this guy touches,  is a matter of grave concern to me.  What might be reasonable  for others days had better be postponed till other days, when Maine has seen the last of Penguin.

  • StillRelaxin

    Cianchette said, “It doesn’t cut against transparency because as soon as a bill is passed, all documents become public,” he said. “This just protects the decision-making process.” Oh yes, like we don’t know already how Paul makes ALL his decisions (i.e. Koch Hotline and or “what’s best for me, me, me”). Mr. LePage will soon be known as the “Black Hole” of political transparency.

    Sen. David Hastings said, “Lawmakers sometimes say some pretty dumb things during the process that the public doesn’t necessarily need to hear.” Oh man, are you kidding me! If Mr. LePage is saying even dumber things behind closed doors than what he frequently actually puts out to the public, then you betcha we REALLY need to know. That’s the only way he’ll ever get the “help” that someone in his condition requires. I’m thinking more rest and relaxin may be required for his and our good health!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXPTPFL746OV2VGR5WBOEUF6W4 Roger

    Obama said the same thing. He has turned out to be one of the least transparent. The fact is that  most gov agency’s do not make documents available under freedom of information for at least a few years many times to extend past the persons term is up and many times to after there death or even years beyond. In short this is nothing new and is common practice depending on the material it is good for the official and the public.

  • Anonymous

    Another non news story made up by liberal media types just to take pot shots

  • Anonymous

    The chief executive is always held to a higher standard.   He cannot claim that he deserves the same right as “lawmakers” because there are two houses, totalling  186 members, who have to be elected every 2 years.  The Governor, on the other hand, is a single individual who can; propose, veto, delay, or enact legislation.   His, or her executive privilidge only goes so far.  Every two years a legislator’s opinions or proposals, their statements during session (in the form of “blankets”) is public. These can actually be monitored throughout a legislative session.

    There is absolutely no reason why, this governor deems it necessary to be treated “as a lawmaker”……he is NOT a lawmaker,  he is a law enactor,  a proposal initiator, and is the person who can veto.   His standard is much, much higher.   No other governor,  as I recall, has asked for this privacy privilidge.

    There are 3 branches of government in Maine, obviously.   The judicial branches papers are produced each event in which there is a decision made.   The Maine House and Senate member’s statements and resonsonings are public, as is their votes.

    The Governor is no different,   the others are held publicily accountable,   …   he should be as well. His “working papers” do not belong to him, they belong to us. We elected him to do a job, and like any other supervisor, we will need to check the details. What is the sense of “checking the decision making process”.. when a decision has been made? This guy …..is toast. It borders on embarassing.

  • Anonymous

    I can remember hearing on several occasions from our radical right tea party friends how they were not against gay rights but they were against “special rights”. Wouldn’t allowing Mr. LePage to keep his papers secret be giving him “special rights”? Mr. LePage and his papers should be treated the same as his predecessors. I seem to remember another republican politician who wanted to keep things secret. He had something to hide. I wonder if Mr. LePage does as well?

  • Anonymous

    “The most transparent administration in the history of Maine.”

  • Anonymous

    How is denying access to government papers not a news story?

  • Anonymous

    Ok……then name ONE governor   who refused to divulge information for the public’s consumption?

  • Anonymous

    Seems more like translucent administration.

  • Anonymous

    “It doesn’t cut against transparency because as soon as a bill is passed, all documents become public,” he said. “This just protects the decision-making process.”

    ::

    What happens the “working papers” regarding bills that die in committee, or are voted down in the Legislature?

  • Anonymous

    It’s been my experience that my FOAA requests are fulfilled within a week, sometimes that same day.

  • Anonymous

    It’s pretty much a non-issue since you can find all of his working papers at http://www.alec.com and the Maine Heritage Policy Center websites. Just search for “model legislation”.

  • Anonymous

    Speaking of lies, what about that hit and run on the question of the Christmas tree tax?  You never answered my response.  Should I take that to mean that you were too embarassed to admit that you weren’t providing accurate information?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if they made the Blaine House grocery bill public we might be able to make some cuts that will help close the budget gap.

  • Anonymous

    The right-to-know advisory committee is made up of media members, lawmakers and other state officials representing the areas of law enforcement, schools, courts, counties, municipalities and the public.   10 to 5 in favor…
    I guess if our stinking government can pass a two thousand some odd page so called Health Care bill saying, “We have to pass it before we can know whats in it “, ???  This pales in comparison.  We will eventually see the scribbling just as we see the lawmakers. Who cares if it is this month or sometime next stinking year.  Are misspelled words that important to you ???

  • Steve Anderson

    I agree. Even so-called liberal politicians are supporting greater government secrecy. Thank God we have the ACLU to take a stand for open government. Our elected officials seem to have forgotten that “1984″ was written as a warning, not an instruction manual. 

  • Tyke

    No idea what you are referring to.

    I have a very ill wife (she is in her mid seventies) and I sometimes spend a lot of time int he comment sections during times I need to kill time, then leave for days on end (sometimes more) when things come up that demand my time. I dd not see your questions.

    Not sure why you want to change the subject here so badly, don’t want folks to think about Lepage’s lies?

  • Tyke

    Very well said.

    Thank you

  • Anonymous

    I can answer that for you, if you would like.     It depends on where the bill originated from;  house, senate, or the executive.    Each House and Senate bills are first, and last heard from the chamber of the originator……if it’s a house member, it would be the house,….if a senator…..so on and so forth.

    If it’s an executive bill, then it’s usually presented  to the Pres. of the Senate or the Spkr. of the House.    And it’s usually contingent upon who the co-sponsors are,   irregardless,     the governor needs a co sponsor to introduce a bill in the Maine house or senate.    It’s rudimentary, but in the state’s constitution. 

    I am excluding that during a regular session, that each house must vote as to which committee it will be referred to, which is usually up to leadership. Each bill, “ought to Pass” or “Ought Not to Pass” or a divided report, is given 2 readings in each house.

    If a bill does not pass a committee’s scrutiny,   then it’s sent back to the house of origin.   With an “Ought Not To Pass” designation .  

    You have to remember that the governor only proposes legislation, he does not vote on it. He is quite capable of vetoing a bill, but not able to particpate in the process, other than committee hearings. Which involves leadershp of both houses………negotiations. Which should and ought to be public

    To answer your question, if the governor proposes legislation, he must do so in the form of a “bill”. Governor’s cannot submit bill, per se, by themselves because they will be responsible for enacting them or vetoing them; therefore they will need co-sponsors to formally introduce the legislation before which ever house it originates. He or she cannot enact or veto their own bill.

  • Anonymous

    this guy is not toast. he’s the best thing that’s happened to this state in a long time ! can you say common sense? he can talk the talk and walk the walk. proud to say i’m not dissapointed in my vote. you go paul

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Lance Dutson, chief executive officer of the conservative Maine Heritage Policy Center, which frequently lobbies for transparency and open government, said he supports an exemption for the governor.

    Thats says it all!

    They want everything other than “”"thier”"” agenda Transparent!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Some body politely ask this has been drip under pressure to just leave!

  • Tyke

    Are you aware that Lepage has grown government. His first budget was LARGER than Baldacci’s last one.

    Did you also know that he fully funded Dirigo Health (not one single well paid position was eliminated in his budget) and recently announced they will be getting an expanded role?

    You’ve been had.

  • Tyke

    Good info – but no mention of where the working papers end up.

    Are they archived? Could someone request then to read?

  • Anonymous

    Another example of transparency in government.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

    i skipped over this mis mash jumble grumble jumble political talk story——can someone tell me what this is all about…in plain english?

  • Anonymous

    Well it doesn’t matter if LePage want his “working papers” off limits anyways.  I mean how much working papers does this guy have anyways?  He uses his mouth more then his pen, so really we are all not missing much for as long as he keeps his mouth going, it is more entertaining in my opinion.  

  • Anonymous

    not aware of grown goverment, but acutely aware of making agencies in our goverment accountable. the best part is the polls don’t concern him. maine’s best interest is his main goal

  • Anonymous

    he’s going alright, in the right direction!

  • Anonymous

    Only trouble is, half the time he can’t say what he means (witness the recent conservation comment); the other half to the time he doesn’t mean what he says (example:  he lied when he said the new health insurance bill wouldn’t hurt the elderly).  Aside from that, he’s a pretty good governor.

  • Anonymous

    Is there “Something”  “WE” are wanting to hide?

  • Anonymous

    This guy is a thug….           if he does not get his own way, he will hit the towns that have to pay for educating their own kids to do so…..he has said so.       And that’s no way to govern.

  • Anonymous

    can tell by your name you’re open minded

  • Anonymous

    can’t undestand wut you’re point is. i’ve missed something. sorry

  • Anonymous

    What do we expect from a Florida Governor?  I can’t wait for winter and the Penguin goes South!

  • Anonymous

    He probably doesn’t want people to know he’s just doodling and saying naughty things about everyone else in the room!

  • Anonymous

    Hey BDN…what’s with the moderator and what’s with the censorship?  There was no name calling, vulgarity or curious language, no harassment nor joking about this tragedy.

    Are your working papers also exempt?

  • Tyke

    I was wrong.

    But I can learn.

    You’re just plain boring.

    Probably can’t cure that.

  • Anonymous

    Why would someone who seeks to do what is best for his/her constituency hide what they said?

  • Anonymous

    A closed government is a bad deal for all of us – Republican, Democrat, undeclared or criminally insane.  No good will come of this.

  • Anonymous

    hate to tell you, it was the tree growers looking for this for marketing. do a little searching, it wasnt an obam tax- it was requested by the tree growers association

  • Anonymous

    Open-mindedness is a virtue, but one is still allowed to form opinions, yes?

    Remaining silent while witnessing a bully in action is a vice.

  • Anonymous

    Why bring Obama into this? He is not our governor nor, did he have anything to do with this. 

  • Anonymous

    Most of the negative comments on this board against the governor reveals that people can’t read or see only what they want to see and ignore the rest. 

  • Anonymous

    It was a tax.  End of story.  Why don’t you do a little searching?

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure where the “working papers’ that is used by the executive’s exist.   Usually, it is found in their reasoning for proposing legislation and the many, many publicized interviews and addresses. Often, it can be found in a bill’s statement, right at the bottom of  the legislative document (LD) itsself.   Though there are no notations, one can easily search the source.

    I’ve actaually never heard of “working papers”…….I went through Brennan, McKernan, and somewhat King…..and I’ve never a mention of or of the phrase  of “working papers”.      Typicially these findings were introduced by the Dept. heads and the governor’s representatives,   most often, the governor him or her self.

    I guess it’s like super secret, and only eyes type of thing,  We should ask those that know……..let’s try Charlie Pray,   he would know the super secrets of many governor’s?

    I do know that, as president’s, a govenor’s papers are archived.     But that, I believe, is up to the individual governor as to where they are archived.   As far as bills signed, vetoed,….etc., thats at the Maine State Archives.

    And when I say a “governor’s paper’s” it means his or her diaries, itineries, speaking engagements, public announcements, campaign crap and supposed accomplishments.

  • Tyke

    Lepage wants to keep stuff secret until it is meaningless that every other governor throughout Maine’s history has let the public see in real time.

    Oh yeah, Lepage also had campaigned on a promise to have the most transparent administration in Maine history. He lied. But that’s not news because he lies so much so they didn’t bother to put that part in the news story.

  • Anonymous

    Since bufflehead has considered that state workers and employees are nothing more than public chattel    (and therefore subject to being obedient serfs) what is he?  He’s the state’s number one public servant.

    This is terribly reminiscent of Dick Cheney’s papers with the national energy commission’s policy board…and we all know how that turned out in the end. (How are those gas and heating oil prices working for us now?…not to mention energy company profits, tax breaks and subsidies).

    Can you say “Pauliburton?”

    May G*d help us–unless he/she is an (R)-Heaven

  • Anonymous

    what was that word that Ronald Reagam’s chief of Staff used?       ummm ah yes….”denialbility”…..interesting.      As if, come on.     Why would he be protecting something that is allready online?      duh.

  • Anonymous

    they wouldn’t.    and what’s more important, they would reveal HOW they came to their conclusion.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    As a consumer of live Christmas trees, i have no problem with fifteen cents per tree going to marketing of the product, especially if it reduces the number of fake Chinese trees that never compose. I consider this a surcharge requested by the growers, not a tax imposed by the government. By an artificial tree and stop complaining abut fifteen cents, but wait, in thirty years you will have dished out a whopping 4.50, no wonder you are so upset about it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    I am still in shock that the state pays for the Governor to eat. I hope the value of the meals is being added to his imcome per IRS Rules. Free meals are only allowable at the convinience of the employer, and not in the home you live in.

  • Anonymous

    One is the President of the United States.    The other is not.    One is protected, during a term of a presidency, the other is not.    The Governor is not protected by the FOIA,  nor is he a federal official or agency which that specific law encumbers.    It is new and is not common practice for a sitting governor to not reveal his or her line of thinking, and claim that he is the same as a “lawmaker”.     He is NOT a law maker,  he is a seperate branch of government, and is held to different standards.

  • Anonymous

    I actually cut my own trees so it isn’t an issue for me, but the point is that there are Christmas tree growers who do not want to pay that tax.  I imagine that you’d have a hard time convincing them that it’s not a tax.  If the proposal is as popular as people are suggesting, then the growers should be able to fund themselves through voluntary contributions.

  • Anonymous

    Your grammar is either correct or you meant the opposite of what you said.

  • Anonymous

    Please Don’t Feed the Penguin

  • Anonymous

    You cannot run a business as you would a town.   Why is it that you are proposing and indicating that we run government as a business?    They are completely different things.   How many people vote for the CEO of LL Bean?          zero.

  • Anonymous

    I suggest  that we change the word a bit…..instead of “working”   we substitute an “a” and an “l”   for the “o” and “r”.     

  • Anonymous

    A governor has responsibilities, and there should be a paper trail detailing his diligence. A big one is his work with the legislature to collaborate and cooperate to do the best things for the people of Maine. He doesn’t know how to do that and has never done it. That has created chaos and left the legislature to figure out how to get that work done. Once they do that work without his input or cooperation he throws monkey wrenches into everything he touches. If he would participate as he is supposed to they’d be on the same page before we all heard about it. He has a Republican Majority in the legislature for crying out loud. Remember the gang of 8 that posted an Op Ed about their expectations of him on the most basic human level? That shouldn’t have been necessary, and he still doesn’t get it. Governors’ papers have never been exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. The governor is seeking to make his papers secret. Probably somebody who could afford the work involved made a freedom of information request he does not understand or want to comply with. At this point the statute will not exist or be amended to reflect this change until the next legislative session. That means his papers up until the next legislative session is adjourned must be produced. He might produce his coloring book and day planner, but the doodles of the commissioners being beheaded will probably go the way of the Labor Mural, the Maine is Going Out of Business sign, and Maine’s chances of regaining statehood.

  • Anonymous

    read it again.      He doesn’t have any “working papers” that are his…..they are ours.     No other governor in memory has ever said or indicated such a thing.    He obviously does not want it to be divulged what he and his department heads are using for information, and how they came to their conclusions.   Both of which are public knowledge, just as they are with the other two branches of government.    

    To give you a point of reference;  people are questioning his numbers on DHHS,    he doesn’t want to divulge them, because he knows that they won’t wash.

  • Anonymous

    Secrecy is designed to hide corruption.

  • Anonymous

    So – - – what’s with all the Devil Dogs and whoopie pies on the shopping list ? 

  • Anonymous

    Of course you do know my tongue was partially in cheek, right? Plausible Deniability? This is worth your time. Go to http://www.alec.com and find the model legislation, the alarmist idiocy about state government budgets especially pensions and welfare and how to “fix” them is right there. All a screwball like LePage and a LePage minion have to do is copy, paste, and change the name of the state. LePage has just assumed his buddies who were pullout from under rocks and put in the Maine Legislature were going to take care of proposing that legislation that will cripple and destroy Maine. They belong to ALEC. He belongs to the Governor’s Association or something like that. They’re co-conspiring. It’s all under the guise of the “Tea Partiers”. 

  • Anonymous

    To the man’s credit he is learning  about politics. 

    Remember when the shopkeeper thought this was  good idea ; 

    LePage proposes ‘secret shoppers’ agency to measure performance

    http://bangordailynews.com/2011/09/04/politics/lepage-to-propose-state-agency-to-measure-policy-program-performance/?ref=relatedBox
    Those are  the good old days for Maine TEA drinkers

  • Anonymous

    Oh come on. Even Adolf Hitler published his book Mine Compf for all to read. He had no secrets. He was the wolf among the sheep. He didn’t need to hide his working papers. You can go into any library in the world and find at least one copy of Mine Compf.

  • Anonymous

    Classified, Top Secret, and NOFORN follow these rules for purposes of national security. The president and his administration are subject to the Freedom of Information Act. But that does not extend to areas of national security.

  • Anonymous

    You said it. The governor of the state of maine does not have the authority to make any laws whatsoever.

  • Anonymous

    Keep pressing those wild flowers, in the sand.

  • Anonymous

    Rotten Stump, you are on the wrong side of a very serious issue where a governor is trying to escape a responsibility that every other governor has to fulfill. Honestly, he’s been nothing but a huge money wasting problem since he was elected. He has wasted so much of so many people’s time, resources, etc no amount of time in Hell for him could ever be long enough.

  • Anonymous

    That was a good response. Old Logger, you need to know that Paul LePage is the worst governor this state has ever had, and he is working in concert with the worst governors of many other states. I don’t like politics, politicians bore me, and I hate arguing. But our current governor is a liar, a cheat, and a future prisoner once his campaign finance fraud is prosecuted. Save yourself.

  • Anonymous

    no he or she does not have the authority to pass  any laws.   They have the power to agree or disagree with a legislatively passed proposal  placed upon his or her desk for signing.  Providing if it’s “emergency” legislation or not will decide when it becomes a public law, only then does it become enacted.

    The governor does not have the authority to participate in the legislative process with the exception of proposing a budget, which still must be legislatively submitted.   He doesn’t have the authority to interpret laws, that’s the court’s job.  

  • Anonymous

    All true. Still, it is a primary job responsibility of the governor to work with the legislature to communicate both ways and avoid unnecessary conflict. The under the radar corrupt stuff that happens with the minions in the majority is not a formal expectation, but it’s what happens when people push that party line envelope. The executive seeks interpretation from his staff in the Attorney General’s Office. The AG’s office wins and loses in court. That’s a fact of life. The governor’s primary job is to be the executive. The executive is exactly what it sounds like. He’s in charge of making things happen using all resources available to him including the state employees.

  • Anonymous

    Hastings quipped on Thursday that lawmakers sometimes say some pretty
    dumb things during the process that the public doesn’t necessarily need
    to hear.

    Wouldnt want the public to know what kind of idiots their votes put in office?

  • Anonymous

    all these exemptions being hidden untill they become public knowledge after the bill has passed makes me wonder the next time i vote i will have to check and see if my northern district lawmakers were voting in favor of bills concerning me or they were saying something stupid about  the constituents that they did not want anyone to hear or see.It kinda looks like most all of our lawmakers seem to be slideing away from the wishes of the people and leaning more toward their own wishes. I do have to agree that i am surprised at the tax payers buying groceries for staff in these trying times of budget cuts to the needy people of the state. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    It is new and is not common practice for a sitting governor to not reveal his or her line of thinking,

    Lets face it!

    The Governor just doesn’t want the Public to get ahold of his coloring books!

  • Anonymous

    On a more humorus note i wouldnt want every body to know how many whoopie pies and devil dogs i was eating every week.but it would be an interesting figure to see on paper about how much is spent on snacks food and drinks for the entire staff and maybe even the lawmakers of the house and senate.Who is buying that coffee and donuts 

  • Anonymous

    For those that have never heard of the Right To Know Advisory Committee (1 MRSA §411):

    http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/1/title1sec411.html

  • Anonymous

    we could stream line the government a little more with all the hidden papers why would we need a right to know advisory committee every thing is published after the bill is passed or is it?

  • Anonymous

    Mein Kampf – it means “my struggle.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXPTPFL746OV2VGR5WBOEUF6W4 Roger

    As a former employee of the Navy having a maintenance contract with them for 8 years 2 four year contracts this is very common in both state and federal government. The FOI was used as most people do not understand how much information  is not shared right away. Information about people. Information about bids and contracts is ll kept under wraps for a time to avoid problems.

    Many things said and done by the governing bodies form local to federal are not available for the public to view. Some take time some are never released some only have parts of the information released.

    The comparison with Mr Obama was not about his office but his words. He stated many time very clearly he was going to make EVERYTHING he did open and completly transparent to the public. People say things while running for office that they do not learn till after elected they simply will not be able to do. Guess why? Cause there are things they do know know about due to privacy acts on information.

  • Anonymous

    Anybody who wants to do those jobs, governor, president, etc. couldn’t possibly know what they are really up against until they start to get settled into the job (two years). A candidate for president should still know they cannot share everything. It’s a chicken and egg thing.

  • Anonymous

    His grave, untreated health issues are no joke. I’m worried about him. If only there were a way for him to take a few years off to recuperate…I’m no doctor, but I strongly question his fitness for duty. You’d think his wife and daughter would be worried about him. At the very least his fitness for duty should be assessed by an experienced Psychiatrist in a safe environment where he can’t hear what everybody is saying about him. Smiling sympathetic faces, detoxification, and suitable medication for his impulsive agitated behavior are the beginning of the road to recovery for poor LePage Boy.

  • Anonymous

    This guy has so much to hide…….can’t believe that Mainers actually elected someone like this.  Is Maine the new Texas?

  • Anonymous

    Give the guy a break. It takes time to remove the ALEC, Koch Brothers, and Heritage Foundation letterheads from all his “working papers.”

  • Jazz11

    When will people realise we have elected a man who is crooked?

  • Anonymous

    The scary part is you are probably right!!

  • Anonymous

    Anything the likes of Shenna Bellows is against, has got to be good. When we see her name involved, support the opposite of what she wants.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y3AXQVNDVKK5OL7F2JGONIRWMI Mainer50

    Didn’t think that transparency only pertains to what?…..Democrats? Everyday people? Unions? and other entities but not politicians or ELECTED officials that WE elected?  Amazing how talk is cheap but when our RIGHTS get pushed, we get pushed out a window.  Looks like elected officials have more carte blanche now then ever before…..and WE let them have it…When is the hypocrasy end?  Do we have to get rid of every elected official and start over?

  • Anonymous

    C’mon.  You know that part happens at Preti Flaherty. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s probably better his working papers are off limits, though it will only forgo the fact that most of what the Republican Party is up to will be proven treasonous. With all that they’re doing with voter suppression and its unholy marriage to ALEC and corporate interests, it’s only a matter of time till their deal goes down.

    However his working papers may be only doodles and stick figures.

  • Anonymous

    ” intimate details of our diet goes far beyond funds and into the private details of my family’s life”…. 

    Absolutely, there are just some things people who have nothing better to do but try and disrupt or create chaos do not need to know… They truly need to GET A LIFE…

    What a thankless job Governor LePage has.  IMO he is doing a terrific job.  About time we get control of our State’s budget.

    AND my dealings with Judy Myer’s of the Lewiston Sun Journal will always remain  bitter.. That old b#W@* !!

  • Anonymous

    Well you know they are up to no good.
    By the way LePage your phony pathetic look in pictures, is not working, rather juvenile, immature and disrespectful to the tax payers.
    I think for Christmas we should hand him his pink slip.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not that personal, the simple fact is the Extreme wing has been caught with their pants down in many different situations. It’s payback time for a group that has systemically subverted the democratic process. People are sick of being manipulated and tired of them subverting our system, outright lying and the lack of interest in the People they are supposed be serving. Time’s up.

  • Anonymous

    like i said-do a little research and stop watching faux news==the tree growers asked for 15 cents a tree  “The Christmas tree farmers sought the levy. They have been hit by the increase in popularity of artificial and plastic trees over the past several decades, and they want to find a way to keep their businesses — mostly small family farms — going.
    Hottest holiday toys of 2011
    “I think with this program, it is going to be a positive and build up our business,” said Sherry Severt Taylor, the daughter of the owner of Severt Trees in Elk Creek, Va. Severt has tree farms in Virginia and North Carolina.
    “Individually, we can’t afford this exposure. But as a collective group, it’s going to help, and we need this help because of the artificial trees,” Taylor added.”

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Governor , for putting papers first.

  • midmainer

    And yet another campaign promise in the dust, his open door policy,,, and transparent administration. Heck the guy won’t even release a daily schedule of his whereabouts until after the day has passed and even then it’s never complete. This is the least transparent Governor in the history of the state.

  • Anonymous

    You are not the first to notice that something is just not right with Mr. LePage. I questioned his health based on comparing photos of him from a year ago and some recent ones. Other posters mentioned he was a heavy smoker and some questioned if he had a drinking problem. While I do not agree with most of the things LePage says and proposes I most certainly hope that he is in good health.

  • Anonymous

    Probably embarrassed by the fact that he can not spell.

  • Anonymous

    All of the other lawmaker’s work papers are private and the Governor’s should be also. You do want to be fair about this don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    Probably about as long as it took you to figure that out about Governor Baldacci and Governor MCKernan and Governor …….., etc.

  • Anonymous

    LePage MUST be unelected next term…

  • Anonymous

    good point !

  • Anonymous

    absolutely not, not this crowd, they’re not doing our bidding, hell they don‘t even work for us anymore.

  • Guest

    Yes, you have missed a lot, It’s OK just rest your head now.

  • Anonymous

    What a Hippocrate, Transparent my Butt.. What does he have to hide.. This man has lied so much i bet he is afraid to get caught up in his own lies.. This must be a diversion tactic to push something into law that he shouldn’t like dhhs cuts.. Something is up.. 

  • Anonymous

    Just another daily attack on our Governor.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely  with you 100% Gov Lepage is the real deal  and a tribute to the American ideal that anybody can rise up and secure their own destiny .

  • Anonymous

    “Oh, did I say transparent? Oops. I meant apparent, as in it’s becoming more and more apparent that I’m gonna do anything I damn well please!” – Gov. Kissmybutt

  • Anonymous

    “Oh, did I say transparent? Oops. I meant apparent, as in it’s becoming more and more apparent that I’m gonna do anything I damn well please!” – Gov. Kissmybutt

  • Anonymous

    What is the latest on Paul Violette?

  • Anonymous

    Well if the Grand Wizard of the Maine Heritage Policy Center has deemed is fitting and proper for his puppet to hide things from the Citizens of the State of Maine then it has to be bad for Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Is that the GOTea ARE NOT that much worse than those other good for nothings defense, again ?  

  • Anonymous

    I think the Gov’s own campaign site says it best…..

    “Every Maine citizen has a right to know what government is up to,”
    reads candidate Paul LePage’s campaign website. “He will fight for
    stronger laws to protect and expand Maine citizens’ right to access
    information from state and local government. When Paul is Governor, open
    government will be a reality, not a talking point.”

  • Anonymous

    Another attack on good sense, everyday, by the Governah. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y3AXQVNDVKK5OL7F2JGONIRWMI Mainer50

    When have they worked for the Maine people?  Only when people die or a major lawsuit happens do our elected politicians do something.  They can’t see anything unless its at the end of their noses or going into their pockets…one end or the other don’t seem to go any further to the top or the extreme end either.

  • Anonymous

    What was that babbling about. I simply made the statement that the other lawmaker’s work papers are private and the Governors should be also.

  • Anonymous

    I’m just pointing out that the Democrats only see perceived flaws in Republicans. Whether they are there or not.

  • Anonymous

    I doubt you could agree on anything our Governor does.

  • Anonymous

    You wouldn’t be a knee jerk reactionary, would you?

  • Anonymous

    Pure hypocrisy. 

  • Anonymous

    You don’t have a substantive response to the matter?

  • dadoje

    That way his spokeperson can remove any of his comments that she doesn’t think the public should see. His berating and name calling for example.

  • Anonymous

    While Republican do not ? 

  • Anonymous

    How about opaque?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UDMNUBBIDWJLPI32ZUQAP5QMWE Wayno

    I bet the 5 NAY votes were the members of the media that are on the committee.  Only the media would think they need to stick  their noses where they don’t belong.

  • Rachelle Fishwick

    NO exemptions for Governor or Legislature!!!

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if Lepage ever told the Marden family that “working papers” were “off limits”.

  • Anonymous

    since when was Jock McKernan a DEM?

  • Anonymous

    Not a surprise in the least.More R lies and obfuscation so he can screw Mainers even more.Thank God he will only have one term.

  • Anonymous

    Boy, I’ll tell you, today’s lingo sometimes really confuses me.  Ex., “As a consumer of live Christmas trees…” would have historically meant one actually ate and digested live trees.  Just gotta’ love the way our language changes.

  • Anonymous

    To hell with his “working papers.”  We need to give him his “walking papers.”

  • Anonymous

    I hope you are able to keep up with your wife’s care and it’s great you can still participate in the issues.I always look forward to your well written posts.God Bless and keep you and your family.

  • Anonymous

    Especially going after the people on the DEL program.The income limit on that now is around $16K or less-hardly a huge sum for the elderly who might spend $2-3K just for fuel alone.For anyone out there taking medication,ask your doctor what would happen if you were to stop.

  • Anonymous

    That reminds me of the old joke”Aside from that,Mrs. Lincoln,how did you like the play?”

  • Anonymous

    Not true,Bartneally.  I’ll bet disqusbites and the other 61%ers would stand behind the governor when he decides to do us all a favor and resign.
    l

  • Anonymous

    It was about not being fair, there’s no point to it. 

  • Anonymous

    I think you’ll find the Marden family was quite happy with most everything the Governor did while he worked for them. If you was as smart as the Marden family you would be too, but then…… 

  • Anonymous

    Are you drunk again BarstVanDeRechts? Did you read what you typed?

  • Anonymous

    What the h%&& was that rant about?

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say the Governors were Democrats searoses.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say that disqusbites. But the Democrats had been running things in Maine for decades and they really messed things up. We’re broke and the Governor is trying to fix it. The Democrats are like small children not wanting to take their medicine.

  • Anonymous

    So much for LIEpage’s supposed claim of transparency. Of course all his brain-dead goons will come up with fake excuses as to why this is necessary. The slimier the operation, the greater the “need” for secrecy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    Here’s the basic question — if it’s not okay for the Governor’s team to have their notepad scribblings and grocery lists exempted from public scrutiny, then why is it okay for the House and Senate?

    After all, if the public wants to see the executive team’s doodlings and notes in the margins, then why not those from the Legislature?

    Why should Senator Margaret Craven’s notepad (or Rep. Emily Cain’s) be exempt from public scrutiny, but not the Governor’s?

    Surely, the legislative notepads need public scrutiny, too!! Clearly, we need a Blue Ribbon Panel, a focus group, and a government grant!

    Just think of the Rorschach Analysis Opportunities, as we decipher the inky scribblings of our favorite legislators!!!

    http://doodle-tree.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/doodle-art-a.png

    Look! It’s the “State Secrets!”

  • Anonymous

    Threatening to cut education funds if he does not get his way with DHHS is not working with the legislature,  it’s threatening them.   No addressing legislative concerns regarding the DHHS’s budget numbers and ignoring their concerns is not working with them.   The AG is elected to office by the Legislature,  not the executive.   There has been many circumstances in the past where the Legislature is controlled by one party, and the executive controlled by another, the AG’s office would be filled with a representative of the majority party.    Hence, the AG doesn’t work for the governor, he actually serves at the Legislature’s pleasure.

    The executive makes proposals, the legislature legislates his and their proposals as well.   Both, the Legislature and the Executive are equally responsible for making things happen.  Nothing will happen to any proposal with out each other’s imput.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    The BDN article above notes that all the Blaine House grocery receipts have been requested via FOAA, as well as other mundane items that have taken many, many hours of staff time.

    The Blaine House staff and Governor claim that none of the information revealed has been published by the requesters, and the Governor’s staff believes many of the requests are being made for frivolous, partisan reasons.

    No matter one’s political affiliation, I think we could all agree — the Executive Branch has more important things to do than revealing exactly what brand of toast the Governor eats for breakfast.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y3AXQVNDVKK5OL7F2JGONIRWMI Mainer50

    I was referring to the fact that the politicians don’t think of anyone but themselves.  The only time that they act is when a major lawsuit is pending.  Like the AMHI consent decree. When that lawsuit was going, then people with mental illness was finally looked at and was able to get treated like people.  So, if that is what it takes to make politicians accountable, then maybe Maine people ought to band together and file major lawsuits against politicians that are in power in Augusta and make sure special interests are not lining the senators and representatives and other elected officials and then maybe there will be transparency and accountability in our elected officials actions.  I forget that not everyone is in tune with actions in the bureaucracy, my bad.  I get sick and tired of people pointing fingers are certain elected officials and not look at the whole history and picture.

  • Anonymous

    Get used to it.  This is modus operandi for our elected officials now days (actually, this has been going on for a long time).  Say whatever the masses want to hear to get elected, whether Republican or Democrat, then do what you want while in office regardless of the constituency. 

  • Anonymous

    What is the governor going to consider ‘working papers’.  He needs to define that before he is granted complete privacy in governing the state.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t know the difference between a fact and an opinion do you? You are entitled to any opinion you want, however you are not entitled to claim you opinions are fact.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Georga-Grivois/100000581693788 Georga Grivois

    We all know what a Hypocrite the Governor is..the question is..what are voters going to do about it? Can you say recall?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PV4CYCJTMR72D2GJP7KHVMCURU charles

    His papers do not involve National security so I see no reason for the proposal. But I guess when only 38% of the people trusted you, the need to keep things hidden is justified

  • Anonymous

    Mayhaps you guys missed this part:

    Read the first four paragraphs of the article.
    This was a “proposal” from the governor’s office.
    “The right to know advisory committee is made up of  MEDIA members, lawmakers and other state officials representing the areas of law enforcement, courts, schools, counties, municipalities and the public”.
    That committee approved this proposal….that COMMITTEE!, not the governor. 
    Get it, they approved it.
    So why, pray tell, are all the LePage haters and nay sayers blaming the Governor?
    Buncha whiners.

  • Anonymous

    And of course we don’t want the public to know what we are doing *before* we’ve done it . . .

    Dark for dark deeds.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    Transparency is nothing that the Tea Baggers care to offer.

  • Anonymous

    “10-5 vote”

  • Briney

    All of what you said, plus  ”Dictator.”

  • Anonymous

    Yes, “we have to pass the bill (Obamacare) before you can see what’s in it?”. – Nancy Pelosi 

  • Briney

    Something is amiss.   One doesn’t need a degree in psychiatry to evaluate this man’s strange reactions to people and the state.  It’s one of repugnance, coupled with compulsion to hide after making his weird declarations.  His interaction with just about everyone he’s met or spoken about is filled with an overwhelming distaste bordering on hate.

  • Anonymous

    it was not the Democrats that broken Maine, and it wasn’t the Republicans either. It is and was, the unwillingness of Mainers to move forward, put greed into the mix and you have a mess, we the people made this mess.

  • Briney

    He’s as scary as the teapublican candidates.

  • Briney

    The Lewiston Sun editor called it hypocritical.  Bulls Eye.

  • Briney

    Getting closer every day.  His next big push will be for  IDs for seniors and others who can’t afford them so they won’t be able to vote.

  • Briney

    Le Page and some of his cronies across the country are trying to muzzle the press and restrict some people from voting.

  • Briney

    Right now Baldacci and McKernan are looking pretty damned good compared to what people elected this time.

  • Briney

    Terrific!

  • Anonymous

     My contempt applies equally to both parties.

  • Briney

    Teapublican Le Page is in strict lockstep with other teapublican governors attempts to muzzle press and suppress voter’s rights.  
     But now we await the Le Page manifesto of a compulsory ID when voting.   In Wisconsin the governor and his brown shirts are hot on the ID issue.
    The On Line “Justice” states:
    “This year, Wisconsin joined other GOP-led states in passing a highly restrictive voter ID law — one that not only disenfranchises low-income, minority, and senior voters, but places a serious burden on students hoping to vote by restricting the types of acceptable student IDs. Few institutions currently have IDs that comply with the law and now have to print stickers with required information for the IDs so they can be used at the polls. Even with this updated IDs, students “still have to show proof they were currently enrolled at school” to vote.
    “But while some students must jump these hurdles, Wisconsin election officials determined that students at technical colleges don’t even get to try — IDs issued by technical colleges are not valid for voting under any circumstance.”
    Le Page recently attended a national governor’s conference and undoubtedly came back with a few pointers on how to institute the restrictive ID measure in Maine.  
    Amazing how many honestly believe that Le Page is good for the state especially for making us Democrats “pay” for the past 30 years.
    Many of us are quick to compare where the country is headed by linking it to Orwell’s futuristic “1984, ” which depicted total state and national control under a “Big Brother.” Total state control is being pushed in Wisconsin and Maine and other states. Our “Big Brother” is in Augusta – Paul Le Page.

    Scary stuff.

  • Dumbb All Over

    NOPE…You promised to be transparent and that’s what we will hold you to. You wanna be the people’s governor and that’s what you’ll be. Tough SH*T!!!

  • Dumbb All Over

    ACLU is all you got.  You’ll never believe it

  • Anonymous

    And I, can’t ever imagine the Republicans only seeing flaws in Democrats?.      That was the most ludacrist statement I’ve heard in a while.       sheeesh!

  • Anonymous

    Naran… .

    It is about integrity and meaning what you say, and saying what you mean….

    “Every Maine citizen has a right to know what government is up to,”
    reads candidate Paul LePage’s campaign website. “He will fight for
    stronger laws to protect and expand Maine citizens’ right to access
    information from state and local government. When Paul is Governor, open
    government will be a reality, not a talking point.”

    In this case we have two separate statements directly from Lepage that he is going directly against. He said he would fight for stronger laws to PROTECT and EXPAND my right to see what my government is doing. In this case he is doing exactly the opposite of what he said he would do… so in principle I am against what he is suggesting, and then on top of that,  I am holding him to account on what he said in his run up to election. He either believes in his principles…..  or were they just so much BS ( as he puts it) fed to the masses???

    The second statement, “open government will be a reality, not a talking point” just hammers home the point does it not? If he can;t be trusted to do this portion of what he said he would do if he was elected, what else is he doing or not doing that we can’t see or know about?… and now he wants to further hide what he is doing and how he is thinking. For myself, I need to know more about what is in his head, not less.

    I suppose you’ll say we are all blowing this out of proportion and making a big deal, like we did with that “other issue” ( not gunna say it) last spring. Yet it is critically important to me and apparently many other Mainers as evidenced by the uproar in the papers and forums. The Governor brought this on himself, just as he has every other “dust up” we have all been through. Given the sharp and constant criticism the governor has been faced with I can see why he wants to hide his working papers, but therein lies all the reason I need to not have them hidden.

    In my and many other Mainers minds we have a lot to be worried about. We do not Trust the Governor, and we feel this way precisely because of his actions, not ours, but his. No one created this situation but him, and his staff, and the way they have done the business of the State. This isn’t some wild comment from some extreme liberal, just the thoughts of someone that I think represent “the middle” and logical side of the coin.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t drink, and can’t read but love to snort industrial laundry detergent.  What’s your excuse?

  • Anonymous

    My guess is that Shenna Bellows of the Maine Civil Liberties Union also voted “no.”

  • Anonymous

    “My office has received a number of incredibly broad requests that have taken hours and hours of staff time,” LePage wrote in July. “While my team has diligently responded to these requests, none of the information has actually been made public by the requester. They were made simply to gum up the work of my office and prevent us from moving initiatives forward.”  Hey Governor this is called public business, not private corporate behind closed doors B.S. that you are used to. My grandma always said, “IF YOU CANT STAND THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!” This maybe some good advice for Big Pauley to follow.?

  • http://twitter.com/Skahlar Abel Mann

    I was not a fan of Baldacci or the good ol’ boys and grrrrlllls of the Democratic party but LePage has proven to be at least as unsuitable as a guardian of citizens’ interests and shepard of public resources. Mainers deserve better than what they’ve gotten from governors for the last 10 years.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, but if that were true!

  • Anonymous

    There you go Govna, hide the corruption. Such an idea. You just go from the worst to the pitiful.

  • Anonymous

    two words the goose-steppers need to learn, Ba – By

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y3AXQVNDVKK5OL7F2JGONIRWMI Mainer50

    Fact is 3 patients died at Augusta Mental Health Institute from dehydration.  Fact is AMHI is under State management.  Fact is NO one at State level was willing to investigate never mind do anything about it.  Fact is the families of those that died banded together and those who were at AMHI since 1989 is considered Class Action population.  Because of the Class Action lawsuit against the State, services and accountability for treatment of the people who are mentally ill was improved.  Now, that the court master has deemed that all AMHI Consent decree actions have been settled, the course of services are back as business as usual.  So, my friend, yes my opinions are mine but look at the AMHI consent class action lawsuit and see that there are facts backing my opinions.  As I have stated before, elected officials do act, they react when big pushes come to big shoves: NOT when it is the Right thing to do in respect to the peoples of this state!!!

  • Anonymous

    Please do not call me your friend. I would not like my friends to think I had lost my mind. Like I said before, you are entitled to your opinion. You are painting the politicians with a pretty broad brush.

  • Anonymous

    so we should give more of the money that those of us that earn to those of you that don’t work?

  • Anonymous

    embarassed for you! occupy wut?

  • Anonymous

    wut?

  • Goodland

    So I expect all the “right-to-know” liberal/socialist commentators here will be strongly objecting to Attorney General Eric Holder’s refusal to turn over his email records for the “Fast and Furious” investigation.

  • Anonymous

    Well said! I’ve watched and heard his contempt for legislators consistently since before he was elected. He keeps threatening his employees non-stop and has hired a union busting lawyer so he won’t have to deal with them. The ones he can fire he fires on the spot with no thought to who could take over their responsibilities. Threatening people does not constitute working with them. If he can’t put on his big boy pants and behave like a professional he should do the honorable thing and resign.

  • Anonymous

    exactly.

  • Anonymous

    I like his stance on legalizing fireworks, now if he only would go after the arcane inspection stickers on our vehicles.?

  • Anonymous

    With Americans occupying most of the rest of the countries in the world you’d think it would be OK to protest corruption that is hurting so many Americans so severely. You go ahead and occupy your old rotten stump. You must not be one of the 99% of Americans who own 2% of the wealth in this country. Say, could you float me a million or two? I want to set up a think tank independent of the Democrats, Republicans, TeaPartiers, and Krishna’s.

  • Anonymous

    Ha!  Love it!  I like Gov. Pepe LePew (the cartoon character…a skunk…sorta fits him very well I think ;-)

  • Anonymous

    You’re a lumberjack and you’re OK.

  • Anonymous

    OMG!  You’ve got to be kidding me.  You scare me with your comments.  He is a big fat bully, doesn’t give a sh** what the statistics /scientists /professionals/ popular theory say.  He’s just like cowboy Bush down there in Texas, ride out on the range doing your own thing, to he** with your advisors and the intellect and the people who actually study science, international law, military strategy, etc.  I wish he’d go take a ride out on the range and ‘have an accident’ to incapacitate himself.  Oh wait, he’s pretty much there…brain dead!

  • Anonymous

    You’re right again HPardner!  Great minds must think alike ! ;-)

  • Anonymous

    and don’t forget BULLY!

  • Anonymous

    Notice how no one is agreeing with you?  Your thinking is flawed, maybe Pepe LePew once gave you a job at Mar-deens, yes?

  • Anonymous

    oh yea, he’s a real tribute alright.  What he’s a tribute to is not the American dream and rising up to secure your own destiny, but more of a tribute to Joseph Stalin!

  • Anonymous

    And perhaps a vegetarian diet…I bet his arteries are growing smaller beefy-bite by beefy-bite.  I wish I could write like you…I enjoy reading your well written words.

  • Anonymous

    exactly how does the guv compare to stalin.

  • Anonymous

    Well said…something sure is amiss there.  How on earth this man ever got elected is still plaguing me!  Well, we know how…it’s just amazingly disappointing  that it happened.

  • Anonymous

    Yes!  Yes!

  • Anonymous

    A man owned a piece of land. He received it from his father upon his father’s passing. The man went to dig a well so he could build a house for himself. A couple of feet into the digging he hit something. Thinking it was a rock he dug around it until he could pry it out of the ground and out of his way. It was very heavy but he got it up and out OK. He noticed it was shiny and yellow. He went back to digging a the well. A friend stopped by to see how he was doing. The friend noticed the “rock” and asked about it. He asked if it was OK for him to take it and the man said to take it because it was just in his way. The friend took the “rock” to the gemologist in town who offered him $6M. He took the $6M, bought the man’s land for double it’s worth. And never had to work again, and neither did his children, grandchildren and a rotten stump. Should we give money to people who don’t work? You figure it out. 

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone find it suspect that his daughter is 23 years old, gets a salary from the state (41,000) plus benefits valued at (15,000) and gets a housing allowance.  The last I knew, she lived at the Blaine House, but for the sake of calculation, she gets the housing allowance of (10,000) per year.     She’s 23, and gets $66,000.00 per year from us!      Her father’s salary is set at $72,000.00. Not bad, for being 23.

    He also has a young man with him who is the son of his caddie in Jamaica …..I’m sure that he’s on the payroll somewhere.       

    Working papers my @@s!

  • Anonymous

    That’s what we like to call a left handed complement.

  • Anonymous

    i don’t smoke dope! sorry. cant follow the logic

  • Anonymous

    Some tree growers asked for a Christmas tree tax.  And that’s what it is:  a tax.  None of your “evidence” shows anything to the contrary.

  • Anonymous

    you are wrong. a town is a buisness!

  • Anonymous

    You are referring to the President of the United States,  in my opinion, you cannot and should not compare the Governor of the State of Maine’s responsibilities to those of the President’s…..they are immensely, and without any doubt, different.     Perspective is necessary I think,  Paul LePage did not kill Osama bin Laden,  President Obama made the critical call to green light the effort.     Big difference.

    My mom, before she died, said “don’t compare your self to other’s….because you may not like what you see”…….honest quote.

    Then again, my mom would listen to Johnny Cash, then The Beatles, maybe some of the Doors, then it would be Sonny James…….But it all made sense Her point was, as is mine……listen!

  • Anonymous

    What makes you think the people who plan to put an end to this LePage crap are democrats or republicans, or teapartiers for that matter? More than half the population of Maine don’t vote. But they aren’t stupid enough to let this crap with LePage continue. Most of us now “perceive” betrayal, brutality, disloyalty, irresponsibility, incompetence, rich entitlement, ignorance, etc. And they are becoming clearer that it’s because of LePage, The Maine Heritage Policy Center, Americans for Properity, Alec, the CATO Institute and a bunch of sheepish Republicans. It’s got to stop. You guys who love him should get him help and out of the public eye ASAP.

  • Anonymous

    You are entitled to your opinion HPardner. But who appointed you to speak for the rest of the  people of Maine? Governor LePage is your last hope. Either he gets us back on a solid financial footing or whoosh down the crapper we go. 

  • Anonymous

    You’re right. But it’s not just a few of his cronies acting together. It’s a Political Action Committee turned monster beyond the capacity of America to stop it taking down America. If we don’t stand up now, we might as well learn Chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Earth to searoses. It was the Democrats. That’s who had been in power in Maine for several decades. I remember when the Republicans were in power many many years ago. Maine was prosperous and vibrant. People had jobs and worked for a living. Now Maine is a welfare state. Wake up and hear the music. 

  • Anonymous

    that was a bit derogatory.     I’ll give you a hint;   the man stole his gold, and his land as well.   

    You don’t need to smoke dope to read that.        I understand it, and I’m sure other’s do.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly what I have been thinking!  Good one!!

  • Anonymous

    Jock was not a Democrat. The Unions in Maine advised their members to vote for him based on what he’d promised working families. Of course he was lying but he got elected. He raped this state and moved on to play footsie with “Charter Schools”. He’s married to one of the most powerful women in Maine, Olympia Snowe. She’s a great leader. Him? Not so much.

  • Anonymous

    Then we’re already as good as down the crapper, because this demagogue is going to be the ruin of us. Who engaged your services to question my right to free speech? Oh, are you one of those GOoPhballs that thinks I have to be appointed by a sh** for brains TeaPartier to deserve an audience. Crawl back under your rock and change your handle, cuz you are not Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Its called graft.

  • Anonymous

    Listen Stumpy. Should we outlaw usery and not pay rich people anything ever again because they don’t work? I’d go for that. And all dividends and interest that are collected would go into the general fund to make sure people don’t freeze to death, starve to death, go without medical care, or miss out on a good education.

    Most of the money in this country does not go to the hard working people and even less goes to the blind, aged, children, and disabled. It heaps up on top of the heaps of money the top 1% of Americans already have.

  • Anonymous

    So you think that if someone has a brain and uses it that someone else engaged my services, ignorant. Also your right to free speech is for you to speak for yourself, not the people of Maine. Never claimed to be Maine only of Maine with a brain and I use it.

  • Anonymous

    Thank  you, you’re an inspiration!  I can tell you exactly how he got elected. These nuts had been plaguing other states before they struck here. I didn’t know about that so I learned this January when the Penguin became governor. I did  some research into where his campaign finance money came from. This state isn’t ready for what I found out. He made deals with out of state companies to take over ALL Maine businesses and services provided by State of Maine employees. If we privatize our government, who will we be working for and who will make our laws and enforce them?

  • Anonymous

    “So you think that if someone has a brain and uses it that someone else engaged my services, ignorant. ”  What does that mean? ”
    “…your right to free speech is for you to speak for yourself, not the people of Maine.”  By your logic if I were black and spoke on behalf of the interests of blacks I’d be out of line. Is that what you’re saying? You want to limit my speech because I don’t have the right to speak when I say something you don’t agree with. You get to decide when I do and when I don’t have the right to free speech???  Pound sand.

  • Anonymous

    “Sunlight is the best disinfectant.”  -  Louis Brandeis, Justice of the Supreme Court

  • Anonymous

    sounds like you’re a dirty business hating liberal– the growers want this to help their business and asked for it them selves– why are you antibusiness ??

  • Anonymous

    The right-to-know advisory committee is made up of media members, lawmakers and other state officials representing the areas of law enforcement, schools, courts, counties, municipalities and the public.   10 to 5 in favor…
    I guess if our stinking government can pass a two thousand some odd page so called Health Care bill saying, “We have to pass it before we can know whats in it “, ???  This pales in comparison.  We will eventually see the scribbling just as we see the lawmakers. Who cares if it is this month or sometime next stinking year.  Are misspelled words and doodling that important to you ???

  • Anonymous

    Fascism. (and you thought Stalin was a Socialist) These guys always turn out to be fascists despite their initial promises.

  • Anonymous

    I thought I responded to this arrogant post of yours. You do not have the right to tell me when I do and when I don’t have the right to free speech.

  • Anonymous

    Also, the first sentence in your post is unintelligible, and makes no sense in the context of this thread.

  • Anonymous

    It sounds like you and Tyke are cut from the same cloth.  It doesn’t matter at all that some tree growers wanted the tax on Christmas trees.  There were others that didn’t.  Why don’t you go tell them that it isn’t a tax.  Then maybe you can organize a mechanism for the government to use to “help” artificial tree sales.

  • Anonymous

    ouch! touched a nerve?

  • Anonymous

    1st of all who is we 2nd what the heck are you talking about

  • Anonymous

    sounds like you are anti business,  the growers assn asked for this, the majority of them(dont you conservatives love both business and majority rules? oops i forgot, only if it goes your way.) and if obama had told them no, you would have been whining about how anti business he was.   ..realmainer? i bet

  • Anonymous

    Nope kinda like all the death flags that liberals had in there yards now that obama is pres they have all come down shows you its about there politics not the issues . It must be great to be a you liberal than you wouldn’t have to stand for anything just against those who have values of any sort.

  • Anonymous

    Talk about arrogant, The first amendment gives everyone the right to speak their mind. However it doesn’t give anyone (you) the right to dictate what the rest of the people think. That’s what you are trying to do. I may be a little arrogant, but this is not a sign of it.

  • Anonymous

    And your rants make perfect sense, right……

  • Anonymous

    Not usually, when I read them later I find errors and poor word choices. Once I pasted two things together by accident, posted it and didn’t notice until the next day. It looked bath-salts kooky. But I still have no idea what that first sentence was supposed to mean. I’m not saying that to be a smart alec.

  • Anonymous

    Have you ever watched the programs or read the books and magazines whose target audience is the very wealthy? They screech about how it is so important to keep wages as low as possible. These are the people taking your hard earned money old log. Not the elderly couple that recently froze to death in Brewer.

  • Anonymous

    We are the people who use the term “left-handed” figuratively. And I’m talking about your post, “Lepage is the real deal  and a tribute to the American ideal that anybody can rise up and secure their own destiny.” The term essentially means ingenuine”. Part of Speech:adjectiveDefinition:fake, simulatedSynonyms:Hollywood, affected, assumed, bent, bogus*,brummagem, copied, crock, deceptive, delusive,delusory, ersatz, faked, false, feigned, fictitious,fishy, forged, framed, fraudulent, imitation,misleading, mock, not genuine, not kosher,phony*, pirate, plant*, pretended, pretentious,pseudo, put-on, queer, sham, snide, soft shell,spurious, suppositious, two-faced, won’t fly,wrong Antonyms:genuine, real, true 
    Source: http://thesaurus.com

    Honestly, personally what I dislike about him is that I am an expert in macro economics and organizational communications. Watching an ignoramus like this further ruin our state exponentially when things are already so bleak infuriates me. And people who don’t know anything at all supporting him because they think he’s a responsible God sent Republican makes me think bad thoughts about him and them. Very bad thoughts. Was that clear enough rfr67?

  • Anonymous

    If LePage is proof that absolutely anybody can rise up and secure their own destiny, logically that means the most ill-suited mentally, physically, and morally deficient fiend, rocking back and forth in his own drool and feces could be the Governor or whatever else anyone might aspire to be. I wasn’t disagreeing with you. I was just pointing out that your complementary post isn’t much of a compliment. It’s more of an accurate observation.

  • Anonymous

    I’m apprehensive but OK, I’ll bite. If we assume that the premise that my saying something you don’t agree with constitutes dictating what everyone else thinks, you’re right. If you assume that I’m the only person that holds the opinion I expressed you’re wrong. Does that make sense?

  • Anonymous

    Lauren LePage no longer lives at the Blaine House.

  • Josh Margolis

    I Republican being hypocritical? Noooooo! That’s a shock. 

  • Anonymous

    was just being a wise guy. also have elderly parents that need help. will keepcomments to myself from now on.

  • Anonymous

    What is it about the gov that you dislike so?And I am not asking  what your people  dislike about him but what you as an individual dislike . Where as  I come from a similar back ground and was able to become successful in most of my endeavors I often wonder where all the animosity comes from.I am not attacking your opinion just honestly trying to see from your point of view.

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