LePage holds emergency meeting on $71 million DHHS shortfall

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Mary Mayhew, Commissioner of Health and Human Services, outlines further tax cuts as she updates lawmakers on state revenues in advance of a report on progress finding $25 million in budget cuts to balance the state budget at a hearing in Augusta on Monday, Oct. 24, 2011.
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Mary Mayhew, Commissioner of Health and Human Services, outlines further tax cuts as she updates lawmakers on state revenues in advance of a report on progress finding $25 million in budget cuts to balance the state budget at a hearing in Augusta on Monday, Oct. 24, 2011.

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AUGUSTA, Maine — Gov. Paul LePage called legislative leaders and key lawmakers to a meeting on short notice Monday to inform them the Department of Health and Human Services budget has a $70.9 million budget hole this year. Some of the red ink is likely to continue in the second year of the budget.

“Some of our concerns that we frankly had when we were dealing with the biennial budget last spring are now coming home to roost,” said DHHS Commissioner Mary Mayhew after the closed meeting. “Some are baseline assumptions that did not hold up.”

Most of the cost overruns are in the MaineCare program, the state’s name for Medicaid. Doctors’ claims are above budget for this year by an expected $10.3 million. Another $9.9 million in hospital claims is projected to be over budget because of discrepancies in Medicare and MaineCare.

“Some of these costs will continue in the next year of the budget, but not all,” Mayhew said. “We are still analyzing which are one-time costs this year and which ones will continue on.”

Mayhew said savings initiatives are expected to be short by $4.1 million and some items that should have been budgeted for, such as the increase in Medicare Part B premiums, were not. That is a projected $5 million problem.

She said there is a fundamental flaw in the way the state has been budgeting under MaineCare, lumping all of the programs under one big account instead of projecting costs program by program.

Mayhew said the general assistance program, which reimburses some costs to cities and towns, is also over budget, as it has been historically. She pegged that need at $3.7 million for this budget year.

“We are looking administratively to see what we can do to limit our expenditures,” she said. But she acknowledged most of the solutions will require legislative action and she is not ready to make those proposals as the analysis of the underbudgeted items continues.

The meeting was called on such short notice that several lawmakers participated by phone. Others were in the cabinet room for the news.

“We are bleeding about $6 to $7 million a month and we are going to have to address this as soon as we can,” Rep. Patrick Flood, R-Winthrop, House co-chairman of the Appropriations Committee, said. He expects the committee will start to meet on the problem in December, depending on when it gets an emergency budget proposal to address the problem.

“There are a lot of variables we know are coming but we don’t know when we will know what they cost,” he said.

Mayhew agreed. She said Congress is considering deficit reduction proposals that certainly will have some impact on the DHHS budget. In addition, there are several federal audits of Medicaid-funded programs under way that could cause both immediate and long-term budget problems.

“There are still a lot of unknowns but I think we will start getting some answers right after Thanksgiving that we can work with,” Flood said.

Sen. Dawn Hill, D-York, the Democratic senator on the budget committee, also attended the meeting. She said the news is troubling but she wants far more detail on actual spending.

“Is this a spike or is this truly a trend?” she said. “We really don’t have a predictive model set up because we don’t have enough information yet.”

Hill said the figures given to lawmakers are estimates based on the first three months of the budget year. She needs to be convinced that those projections will hold up.

“I don’t want all of us to panic and get all upset and start down the road with a supplemental budget that we don’t have firm figures about,” she said.

Hill acknowledged the budget shortfall presented by LePage and his administration is not all of the likely budget problems the state will face. She said with likely federal spending cuts and looming federal audits, it is even more important to make sure projections are as accurate as they can be.

Flood confirmed that the $70.9 million number is subject to revision. He said during discussions it was clear the private nonmedical institutions number is an estimate and could be several million dollars less than projected.

He said when the Appropriation Committee meets in two weeks there will be a lot of questions for Mayhew and her staff.

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  • Anonymous

    “Mayhew says a $66 million Medicaid overpayment to Maine hospitals resulted from changes in the state’s claims processing system. The overpayments from MaineCare, the state’s Medicaid program, started in September. The state is on pace to overpay the hospitals by $119 million by June 30″

  • Anonymous

    Hey Gov’nah .. you got $9,000,000 on the table for the taking with no downside. Just cut the subsidy to the Maine Maritime Academy to what other Maine students get in the UMS and Community system. Why give  $10,000 yearly to 450 (1/2 of the student body) out-of-state students that graduate and never look back. You can’t afford the Maine Maritime academy anymore.. It’s time to privatize this sports and spa playground.

  • Anonymous

    This problem is actually far more severe than what they are telling us here.  There are currently about 4000 poor Mainer’s living in state funding nursing homes and Maine found out last month that they no longer have access to the funding mechanism that they used to pay for their care.  Some of those folks may qualify for funding through another route, but about 2000 of them will not.  That means that the State is going to have about 2000 homeless nursing home patients and all of unemployed caregivers that will come from those closed facilities.  Wait until we see the headline about that. The $70 M is a drop in the bucket.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, who’s on first?

  • Anonymous

    You must have failed out of MMA with your continual rants against it. MMA grads pay a higher percentage of state tax per graduate than any other school in the state because we all get good paying jobs upon graduation. The state can’t afford Not to have MMA. Remember your UMaine engineers have to leave the state to find work. MMA grads ship out on vessels & rigs, we can afford to live in Maine because we don’t have to work there.
    What subsidy are you talking about, I started as an out of state student in 91, and when I gained residency in 92 the tuition went down accordingly

  • Anonymous

    But we did just what the radical right tea party told us we needed to do. We cut taxes by $100 million and everyone knows that cutting taxes fixes everything. Then they told us the State needs to be run like a business so we hired (elected) a supposed business man. And apparently he is running the State just like it was a surplus and salvage store. And now Ms Mayhew has dazzled us with bureaucratic speak which I guess probably is kind of like being in Marden’s and hearing “Clean up in aisle 4″ coming over the paging system. Oh well I am sure that the tea party and  their buddy the Grand Wizard at the Maine Heritage Policy Center can come up with a study or something to fix everything. But rest assured, if they can’t they always will have that tried and true method that the tea party has been using. Blame it on previous administrations and Obama.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    my word here is KRAP

  • Anonymous

    MMA, I believe, still requires it’s graduates to commit to at least Naval Reserve requirements.  Which would indicate to me that MMA is somewhat funded by the Defense Department in some shape or form.    I’m not disagreeing with you, it’s just that people need to know that almost all of these kids have committments beyond their graduation. Obviously, LePage didn’t go to MMA.

  • Anonymous

    How about hiring some people to investigate and prosecute all the fraud that is going on.  You would save millions.

  • Anonymous

    We need to do with the current revenue forecasters what we finally did with the useless tools that did the budget forecasts during the McKernan administration. Fire them. The methods they use don’t work. Worse, they actually cause revenue to drop because they are overly pessimistic and cause job losses and damage consumer confidence. Next month they’ll tell us we have a projected surplus because Santa Claus is coming to town.

    That’s not our whole problem. The unfathomable idiocy of the Tea Party and their complete lack of understanding of economics is crippling us because they have put our state and federal governments under siege using their 3rd grader intellect. It’s partly all of our faults, going around saying things like saving money. You can’t save money. Money isn’t a living thing. An individual can save money, but the world needs the money to flow in healthy ways as quickly as it can. The economic problems we haver right now are the exclusive fault of people not knowing this and acting on it as if we all deserved to live and work in a free and prosperous world.

  • Anonymous

    Thats….the first time I’ve heard a person say  “blame it on the previous administration (which was 2 wars and 8 years old) and the current administration which is 3 years (and climbing out of these wars) old.   The Tea Party, is nothing but an offshoot of conservatism.   Oh, by the way, how’s that Cain candidate doing?…..Tea Party…….pfffft.

  • Anonymous

    But Seriously, you can’t save money. No the fraud’s not OK, but it doesn’t actually hurt the economy. What hurts the economy is the slowdown of the flow of money and the resulting reduction in utilization of goods and services. That causes job loss and a whole host of issues not the least of which is government revenue, …well, everyone’s revenue, but inclusive of government revenue. If we weren’t doing lap dances for Neanderthals who want to shrink government enough that you could “drown it in the bathtub,” none of this would be happening anywhere in the world right now.

  • Anonymous

    1. If you get good paying jobs, it’s not in Maine as you stated .. or even in the US in some cases. Taxes get applied by the state where the work is performed.. and it’s not in Maine unless you know of a rig in the gulf of Maine.
    2. If your wages are so super great.. then you don’t need an outlandish subsidy.. you should take a student loan .. an investment in your future.. like most student manage to do .. and not make the Maine subsistence level taxpayers in remote areas and on the southside of Bangor pay your way with a $10,000 free gift each year.  
    3. Nice move… using the temporary residency scam .. less cost for you and more for the taxpayers.
    4. Back to wages again.. if your out-of-state wages are so high.. why are you not giving back to the MMA endowment fund.. the MMA has the lowest rating of post-graduate contributions of any Maine college .. then again.. why bother if Sen. Rosen will pick up your room for you.

  • Goodland

    SEVENTY MILLION DOLLARS??!!

    Government is like a baby — an alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.

    –Ronald Reagan

  • Anonymous

    I think the Maine Maritime Academie is still a good idea for the United States. I don’t know anything about how it and it’s students are funded. But I’m pretty sure Senator Rosen of Bucksport is not picking up the cost of anyone’s room. I do believe wealthy countries would be wise to pay for post secondary education including  maritime education. Altering the structure of the MMA funding is serious business.

  • Anonymous

    Better to check your facts before commenting. The defense department lost interest shortly after world war II when the demand for liberty ship officers was no longer needed.  The Naval Academy supplies all the talent needed for a 375 ship Navy. The MMA out ran their original charter decades ago .. it’s now just a self-serving conduit to filter tax money to insiders existing in the Education/Industry complex.

  • Anonymous

    As Majority Leader Tip O’neill once stated: “All politics is local”.. and Rosen knows the score and his source of votes. This is why the MMA is not in the UMS nor the Maine Community College system ,, it’s budget lives untouchable in the shadows of no mans land firmly protected by the Warrens .. the owners of this newspaper and on the board of trustees of the MMA. 

  • Anonymous

    And Ronald Reagan was a Liberal!

  • Anonymous

    “some of our concerns  that we frankly that we had when we were dealing with the biennual budge last spring are now coming home to roost”        Please, someone, anyone and I’ve read the article several times……what? is? she? talking about?…..     As far as I can gather, she’s saying that there are more people that need assistance that they planned for.  Or, she is blaming the last administration.   Go ahead, fire some more of your 30 plus year managers, go with your greenhorns!   BTW, make sure that you scold those towns that give out too much money for heat!! I’m wondering?……she’s talking about roosting?……who laid the egg to allow for a roost?

    I can see next year’s budget. … 30 percent towards testing those welfare infidels who refuse to get a job, even though there are none, and make sure that their teenage kids are working….cuz it’s good for them. My……Word!

  • Anonymous

    which is, indirectly as it may seem, but it’s true…..funded by……..wait for it….the defense department.   Specifically, two allocations; one from the Coast Guard and one from the Naval Academy.  Because believe it or not, there are kids who leave this school and go on to the Naval Academy.    Don’t ask me how I know this……it may lead you to believe that I have a kid there. Really?…Industry? doesn’t have anything at all to do with defense. Hang on….I’ll call my kid. …..Did you notice that you said “filter tax money?” My son is proud to be at MMA, and he is proud of his obligation, and I’m proud of him.

    Bet he’s gonna say that it’s more computer’s and industry….? Of course he’s mandated, by the Coast Guard to go out to sea on every tour. Coast Guard, mandatory, sea time, hmmmm sounds like federal to me. I’ll ask again to make sure…..hang on. He said “dad…give it up, it doesn’t matter”. So therefore………I’m done

  • Goodland

    Reagan fought and won the longest and costliest war in American history . . . the Cold War.  Remember?

  • Anonymous

    The Cold War ??? are you serious.  The Cold War started directly after WWII.  Remember, the Berlin Wall…..friggin Korean War….Cuban Missle Crisis?..   Vietnam? John K ennedy went to the Berlin Wall, and stated in german, “I am a Berliner”  (Eich bien en berliner.)      The Cold War was not a war …fought by us or them, it was a war of MMD, (mutual mass destruction) .  Ronald Reagan simply went to the wall, the same wall as JFK did, but 20 plus years later, when Gorbechev was deciiding whether or not he was going to allow freedom.    Ronald Reagan hated the Russians, but they were beat, hell when Nixon was President, they knew they were done for. Ronald Reagam was the president when it happened……he as with the other presidents involved, from Truman to Reagan had to deal with it. Comparatively, Reagan’s imput was nothing. General Eisenhower, the former president, would be very upset that you would think that Ronald Reagan “won the longest and costliest war in American history”. Nest to the Civil War, the General had allready won that one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    No coolfusion is a plant from out of state in Castine.  MMA was there before coolfusion, so you are out of luck coolfusion, you will never win this losing batte!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    MMA was there before you planted your out of state but in Castine, you lose!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Not true, I work all over the States and world, I pay MAINE taxes, nothing to the states I work in, get your facts straight!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Where do you get your information from?  You juggle all this together in your brain, then rattle out you factless opinions in type?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    By the way, most MMA grads are Republicans, you know why?   We pay enough taxes already from our salary.  Your son will pay more in taxes then you ever did.  Time for the rest of the 47% to start contributing!

  • Anonymous

    Am I wrong?…….ask anyone.
    I studied political science and history……and you? My information is from books, lots of them along with lots of opinions and lots author’s opinons. But I feel, after reading all of these friggin books, I’m allowed, (not entitled) to my opinion. History is an avenue that one can use, anticpation of what’s expected is not.

    If you desire, look up the facts. You can find them in your local library.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Actually, not true.  The only ones that have to serve anything are the ones in ROTC.  The rest could work at McDonald’s if they so choose, with no obligation to anything.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Of course you can have your opinion.  I read playboy, want to hear my opinions :)

  • Anonymous

    Ahh.   no     You don’t seem to be the type of person that I would want to hear from.  Though…..I will say…..John Lennon’s last major interview was from Playboy……..got that one?

    I’m 48 years old, and was born during the cold war.  I may know a tiny little bit about it.  :)
    And of course I want to hear your opinions. This is where you get to say them….I just don’t get upset. I urge cooperation and knowing where you want to be. But I never compromise my principles, as taught to me by my family

  • Anonymous

    He can’t really read…. I’m sure he likes the pictures and remember don’t feed the trolls!!  ;)

  • Anonymous

    That was very nice of you…..thank you very much.    

  • Anonymous

    “Some are baseline assumptions that did not hold up.”  and WHAT does assuming do…..makes an azz out of u and me….apparently DHHS’s budget is as difficult to figure out as nuclear physics….are we hiring any physicists to do DHHS’s budget?? Or how about someone who can just count??

  • Anonymous

    We’re hiring complete morons to predict the state revenue. We did it during the McKernan administration and I thought we’d learned our lesson, but apparently not. So we need to literally fire these Boobs and change the revenue forecasting back to the system we used after we fired those fools. 

    It would be easier for all of us if we diapered the governor and put him in a nice dark, safe, cozy room where he can crawl around in his own dirt.

  • Anonymous

    Too bad DIRIGO is dirigone, I guess.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    As it should be!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Would you two get a room already!

  • Anonymous

    Once again the expertise of your sarcasm just astounds all that read these posts.  You have become so proficient that people really do think that you are stupid……

  • Anonymous

    tell that to my youngest son…….and I’m quite sure that he will tell you to …enroll.     and maybe go to …….

  • Anonymous

    Soooo, I’m guessing, probably incorrectly that you are former military.   If that is the case, why are you not supporting our young people at MMA rather then placing blame on…..whowver?….I forget, you blame so many people other than ….you! And, for the point, you also pay federal taxes, as well as contribute to social security, and probably your 401K, and health insurance, those things that alot of people don’t have any more. So, go ahead and scoop up a whole bunch of yourself and just ….swallow. Cuz we aren’t gonna swallow nothing you have to say. Make sure that you take every penny when you pass, and your wallet is fat, You do know that someone is gonna get your little fat wallet, and the penny as well, probably a member of your own family. And I find it interestting that you say “MMa was there before you planted our out of state butt in Castine” that coming from a world travler such as yourself ….tsk tsk tsk……you, are becoming obsesive and annoying, and aren’t really making a hell of a lot of sense. You gotta give to get….but it starts with you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.harvell Tom Harvell

    By todays standards he sure was!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Dude, I know what I am talking about, trust me.  You do NOT have any obligations after that school unless you were ROTC.  That’s the truth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Dude, are you on something?  I am all for MMA.  You obviously do not know the history with coolfusion.  Coolfusion wants MMA to go bye bye.  What is your deal.  You are rambling on about nothing.  I never said anything about you planting your butt in Castine, I was replying to coolfusion.  You need to take a breath and re-read everything.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    You have some issues, please get them taken care of for your son’s sake.

  • Anonymous

    My eldest son died in 2004 in a car accident,  my youngest son is at MMA.  Any more smartass remarks?

  • Anonymous

    you…..aren’t even worth reading….  let alone listening to you post to either upset people or be some sort of an aggrivating chamelion…nonetheless. your have sophisticated sacarsam……wink wink.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    You were the one talking about your son at MMA, that is whom I was speaking of.
    You lack reading skills, you have no clue as to how to follow these posts.  You also do not have your facts in order.  Do more research.

  • Anonymous

    and many graduates of MMA, like those of other colleges, can’t find jobs–the maritime industry in the United States is moribund and attending a school to become a merchant marine officer doesn’t make a lot of sense.  Neither does the state funding a school to train merchant marine officers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Ummm, you are not correct here.  The school still has the highest placement of any college or university in the State.  There are oil company’s hiring for many oil rigs new and old.  There are still power plants hiring these grads, there are still OEM’s hiring these grads.  If you graduate from MMA and cannot find a job, you are not looking hard enough.

  • Anonymous

    Just as soon as they make enough to contribute, they should. People that live below the poverty line do not pay any taxes. Or do you think that a single mother working part time at WalMart or McDonald’s should be carrying our national debt while their employer hoards billions?

  • Anonymous

    You are right Confucius. They should start paying their fair share. If they have a couple of bucks left from their low wage, part time jobs, they should apply it to our national debt. These people are living high off of the hog on $7.50 an hour and it is time that they quit buying Mercedes and yachts and started giving until it hurts! lol. Do you think before you type? lol.

  • Goodland

    If you’re an example of a history major, we’re all in trouble.

    First, George H. W. Bush was President when the Berlin Wall fell.

    Second, Reagan’s Cold War initiatives moved beyond détente and containment through a massive defense build-up, increasing American defense spending to 7 percent of GDP. In response, the Soviet Union raised its defense spending from 22 percent to 27 percent of GDP, effectively bankrupting the country.

    Well done, indeed to President Reagan — and time for you to study up a bit on American history.

  • Anonymous

    No sir, that is incorrect. If a student CHOOSES to become a Naval Reserve Officer, then you get additional money every year from the DOD (I received $1,200 per year in the early 90′s). With that money comes the committment to Reserve service. Only about 15 students in my graduating class (95) choose to take a reserve commission. The DOD money goes directly to the studednt not the institution. MARAD does pay for the upkeep, fuel etc of the training vessel “State of Maine” just like all the other maritime academies. But that means the school needs to keep the vessel in good repair and available for callout (which happened during hurricane Katrina).

  • Anonymous

    So now you try to make a joke out of rusjan’s comment.  A comment which is much more accurate than the statement claiming that Reagan “won” the cold war.  Good grief

  • Anonymous

    Does that number include the 1.2 million that rebublican golden boy Nutting defrauded Madicare/ Medicaid while running his pharmacy in Oakland? Just wondering.

  • Anonymous

    This is a case of the chickens coming home to roost, or, the consequences of an administration of  ideologues in clown suits.  But its no joke.  Loopy and his crew didn’t invent this crisis, they just exacerbate it with tragic consequences for real people every chance they get through voodoo economics and an ostrich like attitude to their consequences.    I do not have any ready answers, but I do know if we are to deal with our problems in a responsible and humane way it will take a united effort of all the people.  I am certain it will generate plenty of  shared pain, that is inescapable, but it won’t be the pain inflicted by the faith based economic and social policy of a lunatic fringe on those least able to cope with it.

  • Anonymous

    And what else would one expect doctors and healtcare providers to do, other than to dramatically raise prices,  when there is this huge pile of money sitting there “guaranteeing payment?”

    This is certain proof of what always happens when government runs anything, they much it up, always.

    Just wait until the marvelous “Obamacare” really gets going and see how big a deficit can really be!

    And just so you know, while I may be conservative, I was, and am, a harsh critic of what Nutting did. He should not be in his position of power, just my two cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    You do realize all your anger towards the wealthy is misplaced, don’t you?  This is the biggest liberal farce, ever.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Who’s horse you on?  The guy rambles on and says nothing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Our government is at fault as is many of the corporations.  It starts with our government.  Also, to make the middle class pay anymore is absurd.  As a country we need to quit spending the money the way we do, and yes, some of it is CUTBACKS.  I pay enough in taxes, so quit attacking the people you “think” are wealthy, who are you to judge how much someone else should pay?

  • Anonymous

    And I know of at least one who worked as a deck hand on a local ferryboat—not the kind of job he spent 4 years learning how to do.  The fact remains that there are MMA grads out there who can’t buy a job—not a lot of offshore drilling going on these days, at least in US waters and I don’t know of any new nuclear power plants being built.

  • Anonymous

    Ok so the people that need help the most are being held at GUN POINT not by the State but by GREEDY HOSPITALS and Doctors I do believe they could work for less in fact lets not forget the insurance companies in this mess as well ,COsts are up because of the legal steeling that is going on ! I know it sounds like socialism but what is welfare ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    AND under Regan Taxes increased 11%
    AND under Bush 1 we had the savings and loan collapse

    you seem to have omiited those from your response.

  • Anonymous

    MMA is not primarily a military academy. Its graduates primarily supply the private sector marine transportation industry such as the Merchant Marine.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Many offshore jobs on rigs.  After the gulf disaster, it is now required to have a coast gaurd licensed engineer on the rig.  People are getting hired left and right, Brazil is booming, new ones being built right now with MMA cadets on them, looking for more help.  Power plants are always hiring.  Between GE, Westinghouse and other large OEM’s, they are hiring everyday.
    Now, if you went to school to be a decky, you may be out of luck, not sure since I don’t deal with that field.

  • Anonymous

    This is not true. When I went to MMA in the merchant marine program everyone had to apply for a commission in the Navy Reserve. We all got MARAD subsidies, albiet not that much. I spent 12 years in the Navy reserve and I wasn’t ROTC-that is a full active program. Now it appears you have to apply to the MARAD (Maritime Adminstration-not Navy)
     funded program to get the subsidy and maintain obligations after graduation. They include-two weeks active duty for 6 years, sail or work in related industry and remain in the inactive reserves for an additional two years.  Any questions? http://www.mainemaritime.edu/careers/112-merchant-marine-reserve-mmr

  • Anonymous

    thus  all the more reason for zeor based budgeting.  how much, why and do we need this.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve worked 30 years after graduating from MMA in engineering and have only been unemployed for two weeks once back in 1980. I pay a staggering amount of taxes to the state and don’t earn one penny here-all of it derived from the merchant marine. If Maine can get money like that it sounds like a good deal for it. We also have a shortage of people to take some jobs. Trust me, an MMA engineering student should never be out of work . A deck major would have more problems but there are niche jobs out there. 

  • Anonymous

    Hey LePage what do you expect. People go on Welfare and Medicare because there are NO JOBS.  Maine also has an old population that has to be taken care of. Maybe you should drug test everyone to get them off the rolls and balance your budget.

  • Anonymous

    We do have a smaller Navy but that’s because it relies on the merchant marine to do more which is civilian mariners. You ever heard of Military Sealift Command? They along with the civilian ships support troops all over. It cost much less money to do it that way. I know so many MMA grads on those ships I can’t count them all. I did 12 years in the Naval reserves. The best bang for the buck (for the student and the state) is MMA.

  • Anonymous

    Actually that is not true. ROTC is different than the Merchant Marine Program-and yes that does require industry related work time for payback. It even means active duty two weeks a year and being in the Navy reserves for 8 years.

  • MaineExile

    Ahh good ol DHHS… Duhhhhhh were is the money? DuHHHHH wich way did it go? Duhhhhhh !  This is one state system that needs a total overhaul. Fire the crusty old top people . Drug test all the walfare people. Kick off the offenders as soon as they test positive… Do something.. And i totally agree , we have no Fn jobs here..

  • Anonymous

    This DHHS should be pared down, the bigger they got, the more abusive they were.

  • Anonymous

    For those who would like to see Coolfusion in action….here is an actual video of him freaking out at MMA    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qV2UgXKpy0&feature=youtu.be

  • Anonymous

    Coolfusion’s facts and figures have been discredited many times up here, but I guess he thinks if he keeps saying it….

  • Anonymous

    Coolfusion’s facts and figures have been discredited many times up here, but I guess he thinks if he keeps saying it….

  • Anonymous

    Coolfusion fib #1 –  450 (1/2 of the student body) are out-of-state students 
    Coolfusion fib #2 – The said students get $10,000 in tuition subsidy.  They pay thousands more than in-state students.
    Coolfusion is a resident of Castine

  • Anonymous

    Speaking of fact checking….

    Coolfusion fib #1 –  450 (1/2 of the student body) are out-of-state students Coolfusion fib #2 – The said students get $10,000 in tuition subsidy.  They pay thousands more than in-state students.

  • Anonymous

    Goods come from China manufacturers, service jobs are located in India, the cronic unemployed come from America. Thanks to greedy politicians who have been bought by big business and are heavely invested in Wall Street. Thus leaving America with no tax base to pay the bills. Yet amazingly these overpaid politicians rufuse to acknowledge the true problem. Free trade got US here,  tariffs and fair trade is the only way to stop Americas inevitable economic collapse. Buy American made products or face a Chinese take over, all were doing now is building a communist military super power who will take over America and what freedom that still exist in this country.

  • Anonymous

    Actually – I don’t think that he got accepted in the first place. 

  • Anonymous

    And if you are equating the fall of the Berlin Wall as the end of the cold war, then you need your head examined.  The Berlin Wall’s falling signified the reunification of Germany.  By the time the wall came down, the Soviet Union had pretty much imploded and had allready began to initiate capitalism.    And of of course the defense spending went up when Reagan was President, his dementia caused him to think that there were commies all around him.  But if you wish to think that Reagan bankrupted the Soviets go right ahead.  That proves my point, that the falling of the wall does not signify the end of the cold war.

    I hear that Walmart is having a sale on personalities,  you should go snag one.

  • Anonymous

    1. If it’s not 450 .. it’s very, very close to 450
    2. Every MMA student gets $10K in subsidy – $9M/900+ students
    3. No, that youtube video is not me .. nice try, but a miss by a mile
    4. No, I never applied to MMA .. never, ever.. nor did I want to

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CL7IBDRT3K73W6YUTS54SWEA4A David

    Commissioner Mayhew, there is a wonderful saying that very often applies to situations and does to this one too.  “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”.  Rather than a knee jerk, finger pointing reaction how about rolling up your sleeves and doing what you were paid to do.  If you choose to eliminate all of the top staff in your organization, then the responsibility falls squarely on your shoulders.  You don’t get it both ways.

  • Anonymous

    DHHS has consistently been in the red. They can not add or subtract.The whole organisation needs to be disbanded and start over again.

  • Anonymous

    Coolfusion only wants to privatize the MMA .. and remove the shrieking sucking sound of the money pipeline from Augusta to the self-serving insiders that are gaming the system to enrich themselves at poor taxpayers expense. Taxpayers will dole out $100 million dollars to the MMA over the next decade .. and what will they get for it? 

  • Anonymous

    ther are no jobs because of the decades of decadence before le page got into office.

  • Anonymous

    1.  Nope it’s not!  Why don’t you reveal where you get your figures from?
    2.  Again where do you conjure up your figures?  Financial Aid is not a subsidy btw.
    3.   Really B.P.  ?  
    4.  Right you went out of state for college…did you get a subsidy and turn your back on that state?   Doing the very things you are accusing MMA Students of doing?

    Just silly 

  • Anonymous

    You are very mistaken,
    1. Maine state taxes are paid by every mariner residing in the state. My company is based out of WA, but my payroll dept pays tax to the State of Maine. If you don’t the state requires that you pay quartely estimated tax, if you don’t pay that the state hits you with a penalty at the end of the year. I don’t know where you got the tax info, but it is patently false. The guys that try to get “overseas” residency for working on vessels outCONUS have a very difficult time making that case unless they are truly residing overseas. Remember the state knows we are cash cows, and every MMA grad has a red flag by their name at the statee tax dept.
    2. I have no idea what outlandish subsidy you are talking about?? Both myself and the 2 other MMA grads on my ship took out loans of around 20k for 3 years at MMA. The only “free money” I received was the $1,200/year from the DOD for being a reserve officer, my GI Bill, and monthly drill pay. None of these was really free money, all required a commitment of time & blood.
    3. A change in residency is not a scam, after mustering out of the USN my wife and I moved to Maine so I could attend MMA. She worked at St. Joseph’s Hospital while I was in school. Since graduation we have continued to reside in Maine, and have built 2 houses during that period. The State of Maine has definately collected it’s fair share of taxes from me.
    4. Contributions to your Alma Mater are a personal matter, and I don’t see the relevence here.

  • Anonymous

    “She needs to be convinced that those projections will hold up.” – Sen. Dawn Hill

    Who elected this idiot? Hey Dawn, it is a projection, not an actual number. I can guarantee it the actual will not be the same as the “projection”. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure what your beef is with MMA, and I don’t really care, but if you’re going to attack them on the issue of public funding, then you need to be as equally hard on University of Maine System.  I wouldn’t consider MMA a, “sports and spa playground”, by any means, but I’ll agree with you that maybe it should be privatized.  They provide a great education in some very well paying professions, with high placement rates.  If MMA’s grads are so highly prized, which they seem to be, maybe some of the companies that are benefiting and profiting from these grads could help subsidize the school.  Maybe offer more co-op opportunities.  By the same token, the University of Maine System needs to be trimmed up hard.  Athletic programs that are not self supporting should be cut.  Majors, and minors, that provide only fresh air degrees that have poor placement records should be axed, and the list of cuts can go way beyond what I’ve selectively mentioned.

  • Anonymous

    Think there’s a little fraud going on with many DHHS recipients much?  – Maybe just a little….  Half of the people on DHHS either have partial cash jobs, work via bartering for services, or otherwise conceal their income so as to remain eligible.  This, simultaneously keeps many people out of the full-blown workforce (since they don’t want to legitimately earn more on paper) and hinders income tax collection, causing shortfalls in government programs, like,… oh, I don’t know… DHHS funding!   Bums! (half of them anyway)

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be more than happy to ramble on somemore as well,  I find it fun zinging you to the point you get so frustrated that you have to attempt to personally attack someone you don’t even know!   Did I say something then?   or was that just a bunch of ramble nothingness?

  • Goodland

    Your comments continue to subtract from the sum of human knowledge. Yeah, right, you’re a history major.

  • Goodland

    You omitted from your lame response that the Government portion of GDP was ~15 percent under Bush 1 and Reagan.  Today, it’s ~25 percent.  So you’re an economic imbecile — a gold star of ignorance is placed on your comment. Hopefully your classmates and instructors know your identity. God help us.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if you are old enough to remember that Texan, Ross Perot who debated with Al Gore and ultimately withdrew from the race for the presidency saying GOP had threatened his daughter’s life. Ross Perot was against NAFTA and explained why elegantly during the debate. On that issue alone, I cast my vote for Perot, even knowing he’d be something of a Beverly Hillbilly in the White House. I think I wrote him in…or was he on the ballot? Anyway, he was the only one running that had his horns screwed on straight. The GOP cast him as crazy for saying they threatened his daughter’s life (which of course they did). And he went quietly back to his life.

  • Anonymous

    ok, let’s go ahead and tax the traders on Wall St as they shift billions daily.   That’ll get more LIHEAP money.    We did bail em out…..they can help out as well.   Or am I rambling and saying nothing?

  • Anonymous

    That’s a fairy tale made up to blame poor people for being poor.

    Years ago I actually held a job investigating open TANF cases (AFDC at the time). I never encountered what you describe here. I went into their homes and toured their apartments, houses and land. I counted vehicles and demanded to know who everybody present was by way of birth certificates and photo IDs. I looked for signs of others living there but not reported. I demanded proof of income and expenses, questioned anything that looked like it might be income producing, again always demanding hard evidence. I interviewed them, their neighbors, their town office clerks, the postal workers, and anyone else I could find. I treated all cases like this, face to face, on their property. Again, I never found what you are talking about here.  The state keeps records of it’s Quality Assurance reporting and I believe the numbers in aggregate are public information.

  • Anonymous

    The sum of human knowledge.    Interesting.       If you are going to measure social and political structures based on the “sum of human knowledge”, then you probably would have agreed with Hitler at one point in time of your life.    I graduated, with a poli-sci/history degree.     

    History is like anything else, especially you, it’s interpretative and subjective.   I won’t suggest what books, classes, or web sites to visit, because your “sum of human knowledge” is based upon one calculation      my opinion + my opinion = I’m right!.      

    Without looking it up…..what’s the legislatvie body in Japan?
    What is the document that the framer’s of the US constitution tries to emulate?
    What year did the French revolution start? and how many constitutions have they had since? What type of government do they have.
    What is meant by the term functionalism as a means for peace?
    Who was the Maine Senate President in 1980?
    I’ll give you a half hour to look them up.

  • Anonymous

    Is this just an attempt to blame the needy again and remove even more assistance?  ”Projected hole” is less than Big Paulie’s tax break.  Gotta wonder.

  • Anonymous

    Japan’s legislative body is the Imperial (National) Diet.
    Most think that the framer’s were trying to copy the Articles of Confederation.  But that document is based upon the Magna Carta, which essentially gave all of the governing powers to a legislative body.  It’s where the term “republic” is defined .  Meaning for this sake, no monarch.
    France’s revolution began in 1789, at my own last count, they have had over 20 constitutions.  Their form of government has not really changed since the first constitution.  It’s a Unitary form of government.  You can look that up.
    Joe Sewall from Old Town was the Senate President in 1980.   A republican, and very nice man.  I met him in his office, which was once the governor’s office, which now located on which floor of the state house?

    And I’ll let you gnaw on functionalism as a means for peace……. but I’ll give you a clue…..”change”

    The Governor’s office is located on the 2nd floor of the State House. You will find some marble stairss heading up towards the north wing of the rotunda. The Governor’s office is located near the rear, adjacent to these stairs on the left. There’s a bronze statue of Percival Baxter nearby. Get it?….Baxter State Park?…..hmm seems Roxanne hasn’t been the only large land owner in these parts….What’s on the 1st floor of the State House?

    Functionalism, as it regards political structures, (there are many disciplines that use this term) and for the puposes of this converstion, which is limited, means that as a country adopts a form of government how it changes directly impacts on it’s ability to maintain it’s principles. and avoid violent change. Lenin and the Boleshviks clearly demonstrate what happens when you violently change forms of government. Less than a 100 years later, communism is gone in Russia. Countries such as Britain, show the opposite. Though it was a monarchy for thousands of years, it changed gradually, and slowly. Thus the Magna Carta, which the King signed giving authority to Parliment. The United States’s government is based on this principle of slow change. Which is why we have made it so hard to change our constitution, which in 235 years. Not bad, but there are 2 seperate but distinct issues which required 5 amendments to our constitution……guess?

    The original Maine State Museum is located on the first floor of the State House. Probably not very impressive now, but still cool. The first floor also accesses the tunnel going under the road to the State Office Building. There’s a vender at the entrrance of the tunnel, she’s blind and uses the money to help people with the same affliction. The food is awesome.

    The 13th 145h and 15th amendments to our constitution incorporated the Bill of Rights to all citizens, specifically african americans. These are the civil war amendments.
    The other issue I mentioned was prohibition, it took two amendments to our constitution to resolve the issue; one to enact prohibition and one to end it. In my opinion, that’s the only “hiccup” our country has had as it regards changing our constitution. I do question how the civil war amendments did not include women…..but that’s another amendment, and issue that I did not mention.

    Want to talk about Maine in the 18th century read a book from Ken Roberts. I know my history and I know the political process.

    What does “Dirigo” mean?
    I lead
    What’s the formal name of the animal on the state’s flag?

    It’s referred as a “moosedeer”. In the day, there was no difference. The flag also depicts a sailor and a farmer, which is appropriate…., both apply today.

  • Anonymous

    No Apathy for Austerity!

    Resist Lepage Shock Therapy!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Cliffordmc, there is ROTC at MMA, that does require a payback period.
    You just pointed out what I was saying.  I do understand all about the merchant marine program, trust me.  rusjan was trying to say there is a payback just for going through the school, which is false.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Dude, this is NOT true now.  You have not gone through that school for ages.
    Any questions??
    Your link is a voluntary obligation if you accept money. Most going through the school now do NOT do this.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    More than that in taxes

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Any company involved in the bailout DOES owe something back to the taxpayers, I have always agree with that.  The problem is, many on here lump in people making 250k with those “Rich” corporations.  This is absurd and wrong.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    rambling

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    I liked the guy, but to say his horns were screwed on straight is quite a stretch

  • Anonymous

    I want something good for Christmas Santa.

  • Anonymous

    You gotta feed Rudolph first…………and don’t shoot him (he has the red nose!)

  • Anonymous

    predictability is the essence of vunerability…….and you are definately predictable!

  • Anonymous

    Hey Cool……sorry that I said the negativity thingy.  I got u confused with someone else.  And, though I don’t like blame because it’s usually the cause of a problem and not the solution, ……I can’t find my friggin glasses!  So I guess I didn’t read entirely what you wrote.   I do apologize.

  • Anonymous

    Hey DUDE, everything I wrote was correct. You have to apply to the MMR program to get the subsidy and you have obligations after you graduate if you enroll. There are two programs and the link gives the correct info. How many or voluntary was not the point. Also, MMA is more diversified now as it has additional major programs which are not merchant marine related to which the MMR/ROTC is not relevant to.

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