LePage says towns with strict regulations should lose state revenue

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Gov. Paul LePage

BANGOR, Maine — Gov. Paul LePage said he plans to submit a number of bills in January to deal with issues he’s hearing about from employers around the state, including legislation aimed at unemployment insurance.

Speaking at his second of three jobs workshops, LePage on Wednesday said a number of businesses have told him their biggest competition for workers is the unemployment insurance program.

“We have got to convince those who can work that we need to get them back to work,” said LePage. “Quite frankly, I think that might be a sign that we’re paying them a bit too much when they’re at home not working.”

LePage said he would want to see if there are enough incentives to get people who have lost their jobs off unemployment and back to work as well as whether the funds paid to unemployed people should be reduced.

Another issue that came up at the Bangor session was frustration on the part of business owners regarding inconsistency in regulations among different communities.

“There is as much frustration with local government and the inconsistencies [from] city to city, town to town — maybe even more — as there is with state government,” said John Porter, president of the Bangor Region Chamber of Commerce.

Porter said the issue came up in one of the sessions with businesses the governor held Wednesday that was closed to the media.

“Given our culture of local control, I think that’s a huge challenge,” said Porter.

In an interview with the Bangor Daily News, LePage acknowledged it was a hot-button issue with businesses and said he was looking at a legislative solution there, too.

“I’m a big believer in trying to get the state regulations no stricter than federal, and we’re trying to encourage the local communities to work with us to make their rules no stricter [than either],” said LePage.

He said he planned to submit a bill that would allow the state to cut back on revenues to communities that don’t adjust their regulations to match the state’s.

“If you will not cooperate with the state, [if you are] stricter on regulations, then you lose revenue sharing,” said LePage. “Obviously, you don’t need the revenue.

“It’s important they all get on the same page.”

He noted that when he ran the Marden’s chain, he found some communities were harder to deal with.

“If I had to do it over, there’s a couple of towns I wouldn’t go back to,” he said.

Wednesday’s conference follows one held last week in South Portland. The final one is planned for Auburn in mid-November. At each conference, about 150 invited businesspeople meet with the governor in small groups to discuss problems they have with state government. Those meetings are closed to the media, according to a LePage spokesperson, because the governor wants the businesses to speak frankly. The workshops also feature high-ranking Cabinet members.

On Wednesday, Education Commissioner Stephen Bowen, Department of Economic and Community Development Commissioner George Gervais, Professional and Financial Regulation Commissioner Anne Head and other senior managers were on hand to chat with businesspeople.

Each department in state government now has a business liaison, someone whose job is to help businesses get answers they need from that department. The idea, said LePage’s senior economic adviser, John Butera, is to let the businesspeople focus on their companies, not on working through the state bureaucracy. Similarly, there are now “account executives” in the Department of Economic and Community Development whose job is to help businesses grow.

Beyond that, LePage said, those positions are in place so the state can react quickly if a business wants to start or relocate in Maine.

“It is critical that when somebody thinks of us, I want some action — we want to get at it and go,” said LePage.

But the state also has systemic problems that need to be solved. The top concerns remain energy costs (Maine’s are the lowest in New England, 12th highest in the nation), work force training and regulations, he said.

“It’s one thing to say you’re open for business, but until your energy costs come down, are you really open?” LePage said.

LePage, Butera and Kenneth Fletcher, head of the governor’s Office of Energy Independence, are heading to Quebec this week to meet with provincial and business leaders there. One big topic of conversation will be energy, said LePage. Another topic, he said, will be better road connections to and through Maine.

As in the last workshop, a prime issue for businesses attending on Wednesday was the need for a skilled work force.

Douglas Cyr, human resources director for Irving Woodlands in Fort Kent, said he’s having trouble getting contractors with the skills to use the high-tech timber harvesters and forwarders. One vocational high school in southern Aroostook County has a curriculum and the equipment needed but it only graduated a dozen students with the training last year. Next year, he said, the company will need from 16 to 18 workers with those skills.

Last year, the company ran a training course, teaching 14 new operators at a cost of about $400,000, he said, which included equipment rental and other costs.

Bridgett Ireland, director of human resources at the Charlotte White Center in Dover-Foxcroft, said a local high school vocational school has a medical tract, but doesn’t do any work with mental health training. That would help her nonprofit group, she said, which at 476 people is the second-largest employer headquartered in Piscataquis County. It also could help young people in the area with a career path, she said.

The center helps people with disabilities. To supplement its funding as resources have diminished, the center has started a number of enterprises including a weatherization and home energy auditing business, a Christmas tree farm and a greenhouse and garden.

Alan Smith, owner of Fastco Corp. in Lincoln, said he employs 75 people at his metal fabrication shop and construction business. He said he is seeing less-skilled students coming out of the community college system.

“They can write an essay on it, but they can’t weld,” he said.

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  • Anonymous

    So much for local control and doing away with big brother government.

  • Anonymous

    unemployment is not the problem.  

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    This is a classic example of reversed cause/effect perception.  If unemployment insurance is “competition” for jobs – and for the record, I’d want to see a lot more of the data before I even found myself willing to believe that, but for the sake of the discussion let’s assume it for the moment – that’s an indication that those employers aren’t offering to pay enough, not that unemployment insurance is somehow, hilariously, too generous.

  • Anonymous

    Once again, he says something that lacks critical thought, If he thinks people are payed to much for unemployent then create some jobs for them Paul. I am sure people just love to sit at home and collect unemployement. Will he ever understand what Maine people want and need, not what he percieves, because he does not think like most true Mainers !!

  • Anonymous

    Alan Smith, owner of Fastco Corp. in Lincoln, said he employs 75
    people at his metal fabrication shop and construction business. He said
    he is seeing less-skilled students coming out of the community college
    system.

    “They can write an essay on it, but they can’t weld,” he said.

    This is true. I interview tech school grads but they trained on obsolete equipment. Their skills weren’t there. What good is it for a kid to train on equipment 5 or 10 years out of date? We need to not only put more young people into the trades we also need to provide them with up to date skills. That means using up to date equipment in school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WKBQQOX73E4FANNQD22UKYZFQ4 bilbo52398

    You’ve got it, Ben! 

  • Anonymous

    Why is it the nanny states job to train your workers ? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DPWRIDD3KEHV3AQW4AQX36AGQQ William

    There are certainly some parasites in the system, but the overwhelming majority of potential workers simply can’t make enough at minimum wage to pay rent, food, heat, clothing, and medical bills.  Maine needs to raise the minimum wage for full-time workers, set another minimum wage for part-time workers that allows them to survive and take care of children or disabled older relatives, and set a separate minimum wage for school children on vacation that doesn’t interfere with their studies.  Otherwise, the ambitious younger generation will leave Maine, and only the indolent will remain to breed the next generation.  If farmers followed that model, it would eventually take two cows to lighten your morning coffee.  If foresters followed that model, it would eventually take an acre of trees to generate a cord of wood.  Our competition isn’t European and Asian varsity teams, folks, it’s their graduate students.  Your great grandchildren could be the migrant  field workers of Europe and Asia if we don’t make our working wages high enough to keep our most able workers in the Maine workforce.

  • Anonymous

    Business needs to do it’s job and train workers to fit the need if there are no qualified workers willing to work at the wages they are willing to offer.  It isn’t up to the state to bail you out because you can’t run a business.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. Doesn’t the Governor realize (or is he conveniently overlooking) the tie-in to how much someone gets on unemployment and how much their wages were at their job?

  • Anonymous

    I know what you mean.  Unemployment is a problem (all over the country) but you are responding to what the Governor is stating and how he is not really getting the whole picture.

  • Anonymous

    Boston Whaler had a plant in Edgewater Florida. They Threatened to move because they could not find the skilled workers needed to fabricate boats. Volusia County government got together with Daytona Beach Community College and they developed programs to meet the needs of Boston Whaler. Whaler stayed hired bunches of locals. More people making better wages increased revenues. Whaler pays property taxes as well all the other taxes. That is the kind of cooperating business and government need. No nanny state there just wise leadership.

  • Anonymous

    I think the only person who may not be thinking this through may be you Skeejun. Paul cannot create jobs unless he increases the size of government which sucks capital out of the private sector. What the governor is doing and what government can do is create an environment that encourages business to hire, invest and expand or just start new businesses. If, what we’ve been reading is true, that there are many good paying jobs but not enough skilled workers and if we have too many people collecting welfare the question is why aren’t many of these unemployed doing all they can to change their situation? 

  • Anonymous

    Will the revenue sharing also be cut for the towns that do not adopt regulations as strictly as the state? 

  • Anonymous

    Because I pay taxes and it is a waste of taxpayer money to train people for jobs that no longer exist.

    Also we do train people. They don’t in school.

  • Anonymous

    Do you own a business? Have you had to hire employees? Are you aware of the mountain of paperwork, bookkeeping, taxes and the myriad of insurances companies face. Have you had a business and had to meet payroll, lease payments, equipment purchases, energy costs, internet, communications, vehicle costs and on and on? What about marketing? Do all of that as well as nurture and navigate  a business through a major recession? 

  • Anonymous

    Sadly I know of a young man who flunked out of carpentry trade school because he failed English Composition.  Why wasn’t he learning to write a contract instead? 

  • Anonymous

    I would not be so quick to beat up the unemployed,but would definitely support teaching more of the trades in high school, College, apprenticeships etc.

  • Anonymous

    They don’t need to bail me out. I am doing just fine, but people come with the right skill set or we can’t use them. My most recent hire came from the mid-west having just moved to the area.

  • Anonymous

    That is sad.

  • Anonymous

    ” If what we’ve been reading is truein true ” There ya go, I do not expect the goveremnt to provide jobs for the unemployed, but the state could provide and enviroment that would invite bussiness to come to Maine.Since Paule beacame into the position of speaking for our state, unemployment has gone up and more bussiness have left the state because of his comments and his lack of skill to create an enviroment that makes bussinesses want to stay or come to Maine. The numbers do not lie.

  • Anonymous

    I’d be surprised if you told me that you were a business owner or had ever been a business owner. Your statement suggests otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    The unintended consequences of minimum wages is to kill jobs.  Market forces will always prevail.  It cannot be avoided.

  • Anonymous

    Numbers don’t lie. True. According to Maine.gov Center for Workforce Research, unemployment decreased from 7.6% September 2010 to 7.5 September 2011. I think you better take a long look though at the “hope and change” guy who has really frigged things up if you’re looking to blame anyone.

  • Anonymous

    Good balanced response….you seem to know and be saying that the onus should not be put on the unemployed (as the Governor seems to be doing), but also see the need for looking at other approaches , or let’s say, additional approaches in education to meet workplace needs,etc.
    I think you looked at more than just one part of it.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry sir, but if you think that those numbers are a true reflection of the labor market here in Maine that would be your mistake to make. I do not think that you will agree on my position regarding Paul, but wish you well in your support of him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    It’s amazing, it really is.   These company’s can blame the government for competeing against them; criticize the government for not helping them, and then ask the government to bail them out?…..It’s amazing.   Hopefully, LePage will be unemployed soon.   Make sure that you make your phone call Penguin.

  • Anonymous

    I moved here from Florida in 2001. I’d been away for 30 years. What I came back to was a depressed and oppressed state. These problems go a long way back. Long before  Lepage or even Baldacci and King although the latter two contributed to the depression in this state. Quimby is 1000% right when she says this is a welfare state. I am very sad because so many people have accepted things as they are. Many Mainers have surrendered, given up.

  • yowsayowsa1

    (HUH?)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    I’m so sick and tired of kissing business’s butt.    It’s there job to make sure they exist, it’s the government’s job to help them,   not nurse them. 

  • yowsayowsa1

    How can business do it without a training wage system in place?

  • Anonymous

    Perfect.

  • Anonymous

    There’s that brilliant mind at work again.  Leave it to Penguin to threaten towns with financial penalties when they disagree with his poor ideas of how things should work. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ANBQVHQUFHBA3QQWH63G62LPOA James B

    So my town has realized over the years that we can’t count on DEP or the legislature to properly monitor mining operations so we developed ordinances so that we can do the job the State has refused to do. For this the governor wants to penalize us? Unbelievable!

  • Anonymous

    Minimum wage is a training wage.  Any business worth anything gives employees raises as they become more proficient.  Often times that is why employees get 3-4 raises their first 12-15 months at a company.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    What a dunce.  If the state is going to cut back on funds to any communities then those communities should be able to cut back on the taxes they pay.  And regarding unemployment…pure stupidity on that one.  Maine is bleeding jobs left and right and people still have mortgages or rent to pay and need to survive.  This bonehead will be lucky to get more than one vote (his own) when he attempts (and fails) to be re-elected.

  • Anonymous

    I voted for him because I wanted MORE local control, not less. This is ludicrous!

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if Fisher Engineering with their 93% employee turn over rate is one of the companies who feel unemployment benefits are  to high? If you are a rotten place to work, do not pay competitive wages and offer some type of benefit program then you will have trouble getting good employees.  

  • Anonymous

    Well, it doesn’t work that way, the state regulations trump local ones if the local ones aren’t strong. So that wouldn’t be relevant. What I want to know is why he won’t let my city council decide what gets done in my city. Not that I’m well represented by that council, but this governor is not the mayor I voted for. I don’t know what his problem is.

  • Anonymous

    Do you mean Duh?

  • Anonymous

    We just recently hired a tech type of person to replace one who will be retiring in a little less then a year. While the people we were interviewing were not “tech school ” grads I found the quality of the applicants to be relatively high. I realize that it is different for every company . If the schools are using outdated equipment then that needs to be addressed. 

  • jbmaine

    Mr. Punishment speaks.

  • Kevin N. Saisi

    If local communities can’t have regulations any more strict than the state, why even have regulations on the local level?? Local regulations are for local control, and if local laws are more strict than our state and federal laws, it means that is how the local people want it. If you don’t like it, move to a community where such rules don’t exist, or work to change them. The state government has no business telling towns how to operate.

  • Anonymous

    Governments don’t create jobs but now the state has created “business liasons” so that businesses don’t have to spend their time and money getting through government regulations but can get it done on the taxpayer’s dime. If local governments don’t align their regulations with the state then the state will blackmail them into doing so. Why have local government at all then? To top it off let’s punish the unemployed by reducing the benefits and forcing them to take minimum wage jobs and make the businesses happy with more minimum wage and benefits (if any) workers.

  • Anonymous

    It sounds like you should go out of business. Sometimes the world sends us a message and we don’t want to hear it. But if you can’t go out of business when you should it leaves me wondering why you do not do that.

  • Anonymous

    You are partially right. It shouldn’t all be up to the State , but on the other hand schools should be teaching basics in the types of trades and disciplines that employers need. The example above is a good one. A win win for everyone involved. It does no good to teach how to make buggy whips when no one has a horse and carriage. 

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    I’ve worked in manufacturing in New Hampshire and they TRAIN people they hire to use their specific equipment.  That is what employers in Maine need to do as well because that is the ONLY way you get employees who have the specialized skill set that you require.  Employers have gotten SO LAZY in this respect.  They want to pay lower wages, less benefits, work people more hours and expect those employees to already know every aspect of their business.  That’s unrealistic.  There are plenty of hard working people willing to learn and work hard but the employer needs to get off their butts too.

  • Anonymous

    This is not true. There are many infrastructure projects that need to be addressed, whether routine maintenance, replacement, or new – most of those will be bid out to private contractors to do. The size of government is growing, yet necessary work is being done while putting people to work.

  • Anonymous

    The school these folks graduate from is located in Southern Maine. It is the only technical school in the state that has a program that would apply in our business. They have folks from our industry that advise the program. In chatting with them I am told they are slow to change the curriculum.
    Our business kind of changes on the fly so that may be the problem.

    Like you I have no problem finding people. I was speaking to the problem the person from Fastco was talking about.

    You hit upon the initial point I was alluding to. They need new equipment at the school, should be willing to take advice and maybe hire one or two new instructors.

  • Anonymous

    Not so. He’s sick as a brick. Maybe he hates us all and plans to sell us all out. That might sound crazy, but it really isn’t if you look at people like Benedict Arnold etc. Plus he’s an diot.

  • Anonymous

    Not too long ago, unions trained up and coming workers. Perhaps not as welders, but as electricians, tin knockers, plumbers, iron workers. That role was taken over in part by Vo-Tech schools.

    While some on the job training is required in almost every industry (I’m an architect and have had to train more than a couple of college grads), trade schools play an important role.

    My taxes go to pay for them too, and I support that. If you feel these kids are not receiving the training they need, then I ask that you get more involved than you already are.

  • Anonymous

    This mooreon isn’t anyone anybody with any brains at all would have voted for. He needs to go. In a real country someone would have already relieved him of his misery while he slept. We’re just all cowards.

  • Anonymous

    Or is it that the governor is saying: “If you want to be stricter and that causes a problems with people being employed, you pay for it. Don’t cry to the state to bail out your follies?” Sounds like a California scenario to me.

  • Anonymous

    Well, he may be required to read a specification manual as part of constructing a building. Writing an essay is one way to test literacy.

  • Anonymous

    Check out my response to 4mermainer below.

  • Anonymous

    Unions are too busy playing Democratic politics these days to train younger workers.

    Sorry I had to get my dig in. :-)

  • Anonymous

    Possibly even probably.

  • Anonymous

    Everclear.

  • Anonymous

    I guess he won’t be happy until he has everyone working for a “training wage”.

  • Anonymous

    What is not true? Didn’t say there shouldn’t be government or that government doesn’t have responsibilities. Didn’t say that at all. Too much government stifles growth, sucks dollars, depletes energy,  and strains resources. Liberals love big government I know. Sees it as the answer to all of man’s woes. You have your big government now. Big ol’ slobbering, lumbering behemoth crushing the little guy.  What do we have to show for it? Look around. Look at our great society under progressive leadership. It’s a bucket of swill.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps. Or maybe the man could read just fine. Maybe he could write a decent letter or proposal but maybe he just didn’t do well in english comp. Maybe he just got screwed by eggheads who think if you can’t pass english comp then you have no business being a carpenter.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G7TM2WWUSPPTO2SNDBEXTLHSRQ Confucius

    Still doesn’t mean you should collect unemployment instead of working for them.

  • Anonymous

    That’s one screwed up train of thought!

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!

  • Anonymous

    Do you know what a Polly Wog is when it grows up? A frog.

  • Anonymous

    Giving up local control to the state……brilliant, LePage!  That should sit real well with your Tea Party base.

  • Anonymous

    Just a point of information. I did not say or even imply that there were not as you say “plenty of hard working people willing to learn and work hard”.  I know there are.

  • Anonymous

    How come we’ve never been told about this??

  • Anonymous

    I’m an employer and I have also been an employee. I don’t think anyone should have to work at a place that has a 93% turn over rate. Any human resources professional would tell you that there is definitely something wrong when a company has that high a turn over. 

  • Anonymous

    I think ‘ol pollewogg may have been swimming in whiskey river.

  • Anonymous

    “Speaking at his second of three jobs workshops, LePage on Wednesday said a number of businesses have told him their biggest competition for workers is the unemployment insurance program.“We have got to convince those who can work that we need to get them back to work,” said LePage. “Quite frankly, I think that might be a sign that we’re paying them a bit too much when they’re at home not working.”
    This is the kind of stupidity we need to stamp out right now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    The Penguin is warming up.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Indeed.  How ’bout you?  Ever been offered a wage so pathetic you’d have been better off staying unemployed?  It really sends the wrong message, assuming the employer is in any way serious about “getting Maine back to work,” or whatever the canned slogan is this year.

  • Anonymous

    Literacy should not be undervalued either.   There are a lot of students needing to take remedial English , math, etc. after high school to meet college requirements.  That is not something to be proud of either.

  • Anonymous

    It’s too bad you had to come back to Maine after all those years and see what the Republicans and Corporations have done to us. I feel like a bald faced prostitute. I used to be able to go out and start a business making serious money legitimately and proudly creating jobs for people who made serious money and loved working for me. But a series of stupid people were put in charge of the state over 30  years. And NO I don’t mean Democrats. Just plain old stupid people were voted in by stupid voters and things went to hell as things will do. It’s a downward spiral we’ve been on. LePage is just Maine version of putting Sonny Bono or Arnold Schwarzenegger in charge. I’m sorry you came back. I’m also sorry Florida sucks now too.

  • Anonymous

    The kind of horrible discouraging stupidity continually demonstrated by the stupidest Governor Maine has ever had is so mind numbing it’s hard to know how to respond to it. I find that when I try to respond honestly to it, the horrible truth is so offensive that I get kicked off, and that’s with me being polite and professional. That is so discouraging in itself that I almost don’t want to do anything to improve the situation. His father’s only failure was being too selfish to exterminate this little shhit instead of letting him couch surf.

    I’m at the point where I need more of you to “man up”. 

    Has anyone reading this ever tried to live on unemployment while job hunting and caring for a family? If you have then Speak Up. This evil monster needs to crawl back into the storm sewers of Lewiston and wait for trick or treaters to come by.

  • Anonymous

    “Still doesn’t mean you should collect unemployment instead of working for them.”

    I know where you think you’re coming from with that , but actually in a pure capitalist, every man for himself, economic system, sure you should, if that is were the bucks are bigger.  
    It might hurt one’s pride, but bringing home the most bacon is what you own to your family, just as corporate CEO’s own only the biggest profits possible to their shareholders or society.
    Remember family values ?
    Get real about them in these hard times.

    So why would you hold regular working people, each family a small business operations, too, in point of fact, to a higher standard  than you do other businesses, corporations  and Wall St. ?

  • Anonymous

    Contractors that do not claim their earnings here in Maine still want to be paid 10 -25 dollars and hour! Then they get the extra’s because they do not have a job.

  • Anonymous

    Sure when that 12 week job ends they will not even get unemployment. They should be allowed to seek employment that is lasting and suitable.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, this one takes the cake! Communities that want to preserve what they have, and I don’t mean just environmental quality, by setting a higher standard than the federal or state government are somehow doing something wrong? Funds will be withheld because we do not agree with this administration’s lower standards? Think again. You want a municipal revolution? Let me call my Town Manager to get it started. One cannot get much more arrogant, can one? Oh, wait , you say, there is more to come? Let’s see. Shall we ask for a recall of the governor? It is embarassing to say I am from Maine these days. We are quickly becoming the laughing stock of the country. What is the opposite of Dirigo? The word for I Follow?

  • http://twitter.com/BeachPatriot Mike Coleman

    If you want state aid you play by the state’s rules. Local control means also being self-sufficient.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    actually in a pure capitalist, every man for himself, economic system, sure you should

    If you wanted to use the corporate types’ own usual protest against them, you might go so far as to say you have a fiduciary responsibility to do so.

  • Anonymous

    “That’s one screwed up train of thought!” 

    Well, sure it is, Jeff, but cut her some slack. 

    She is limited to dealing with LePages bold faced threats to cut revenue sharing 
    with any town leaders  that dare tell him what he told the POTUS . 

    : )

  • Anonymous

    So you can do a BAC on a blog over the Internet? There are a series of people who are telling me they have been censored by the BDN and they are all anti LePage. Last I knew public figures were fair game for free speech. They’re hunting for a lawyer to sue the Bangor Daily for serious punitive damages. I hope this little thing gets worked out. I’ve got a case against a National Bank for serious damages right now, but I’m considering doing the work as a public service.

  • Anonymous

    One has to ask using the example above why the woods program has so few graduates. Could it be that young people do not want to work for these companies? Why? Okay, fine, you have jobs. But no one wants your jobs. Sorry. What programs ARE students graduating from? Let’s make sure those jobs are available. I am all for taking care of our own and focusing on businesses that Mainers want to work for.

  • Anonymous

    BTW what is the legal limit for blogging on a rag.

  • Anonymous

    was he working stiff ? 

  • Anonymous

    Generalities don’t make the case. Okay, what is too much? What do you want government to stop doing? Eliminate what? We have the government we have because we in Maine asked our legislators to do this and that for us. And, our legislators in Washington enact laws they believe are in our best interest which we have to abide by until such time as they are changed. Government got big because we asked it to. Plain and simple. We did this to ourselves. So how about we place a three year moratorium on asking our government to do any more or less? We The People do not want any more, but we probably don’t want any less either. We will just live with what we have and make do. That will make it easy for our legislators as they will not have to introduce any bills, just work on a budget to take care of what we’ve got. Sure, that’ll work.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, yeah, this will get us some more complimentary national attention. Geez!

  • Anonymous

    Are you a little thin skinned? Have you read PolleWogg’s resume’. It was in a post this week. If there were a moderator that read samples of the work shared on this blog you would have been thrown under the bus immediately. PolleWogg will no doubt post elsewhere.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    NH manufacturing companies hire people with NO experience at all and train them, pay them very well, give them good benefits, profit sharing and end up with devoted employees who stay with the same employer from the time they are young adults until they retire most of the time.  You’re going to get back the equivalent of what you put in where employees are concerned.  People are sometimes given tests to make sure they have the aptitude for certain work…and this is how places like Timken Aerospace acquire CNC operators and set up people…and some of those people make well over $25 an hour with no trade school or college education.  The employer gets employees who are trained exactly as they want them to be, the employee learns skills and everyone wins.

  • Anonymous

    think about what must be true in order for lepage’s asinine assertion that unemployment insurance is competition to business for workers.  again, the man is blowing smoke up my a**.

  • Anonymous

    the moderater sucks

  • Anonymous

    ill never buy this paper agian

  • Anonymous

    maine sucks

  • Anonymous

    aroostook should be its own country

  • Anonymous

    stay home

  • Anonymous

    english go home

  • Anonymous

    So students were interested in learning that trade and it worked well for everyone. That is successful collaboration. But if students don’t really want to enter a trade offered by a community college even though there are jobs waiting for them you have the situation mentioned in the article. I took a group of seniors to one of our community colleges and was amazed that one program was so overenrolled there was a waiting list to get in. No sensible person wants to put the time and energy into learning and paying for something they do not want to do. They want to learn what excites them. And, if those jobs do not exist in Maine then they will head south.

  • Anonymous

    the border is wrong

  • Anonymous

    stay were you came from

  • Anonymous

    your fools

  • Anonymous

    we dont have codes here, now wheres our boatlanding

  • Anonymous

    I think LePage could talk to 50 business owners and if ten told him what he wanted to hear, he’d run to the press with their stories and ignore the suggestions of the rest. Lepage isn’t really on a fact-finding mission…he’s out there looking for support and affirmation of his own views.

  • Anonymous

    Ooh…I just threw up in my mouth a little…I had no idea you could support your family for weeks on end with unemployment insurance!!

  • Anonymous

    Oh he gets it, He’s just following big business politics…He’s just helping to pay back those high profile forces that helped get him elected.  There are many more Mainer’s that voted for him, that aren’t being represented by (some of) his proposals…to say nothing of the best interests of the State, as a whole. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/bigfatmooose Robert M. Hyer Jr

    What a joke, businesses claim that unemployment insurance is causing people to stay out of work. Companies are cherry picking potential employees. I have put my resume in to many companies and have had the experience and the competency for the position but I did not get the job. The governor is a joke. My best friend has been on unemployment for some time and she has put her resume in to many companies and has had interviews and records all the jobs she has applied for a job she has pages. Its not people wanting to stay on unemployment that is keeping them from work its MAINE’s businesses.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the Big Business and Big Government dance hour…they are a corrupt lot and have infected our State too…they are playing musical chairs with us, only there are no chairs,  the music is fast and twisted and the only two songs playing are fascism and socialism…and…yup, fascism is playing over the drowned voices of the people at a local government near you… 

  • Anonymous

    fiduciary responsibility = family values, now  ? 
    I love it.

  • AionNV

    Yes, you should, if they are so incompetently managed and exploitative, they should have to not just pay part of the unemployment, but all of it, instead of the public having to subsidize their incompetency.

  • AionNV

    Something probably at least borderline criminal.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

    go away nanny state government!

  • AionNV

    Then the state shouldn’t tax anyone in the localities it seeks to oppress.

  • AionNV

    He means eliminate anything he doesn’t like, and keep those special GOP entitlements that apply just to him.

  • AionNV

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

    Do you ?

  • AionNV

    You know, businesses have been working with local schools for what, a century now ?

    Come on, buy the school a welder.  Sit down and have a meeting with them.  Invite students over to work in a training program you’ve set up.

    Why is it OK for local businesses to demand the state do the job THEY need to do ?

  • AionNV

    Childish.

  • AionNV

    Because without decent composition skills you can hardly be expected to write a decent contract.

  • AionNV

    Lets have the names of those businesses.

    I’m sure THAT would be VERY clarifying.

  • Anonymous

    “I’m a big believer in trying to get the state regulations no stricter than federal, and we’re trying to encourage the local communities to work with us to make their rules no stricter [than either],” said LePage.Now what does this mean ? what secret business has an issue that could only come out in a secret meeting held by our secretive governor..we will never know..personally I think one of the governors spineless supporters has an axe to grind somewhere..but its a secret

  • Anonymous

    Ludicrous was voting for the “CEO” of Mardens for the Gov of Maine, granted, the choices were beyond  horrid…….

  • Anonymous

    These businessmen are to scared to talk in public..according to the governor..

  • Anonymous

    Is this the same Gov’ who wants to stop taxing the retirement benefits of fat cats who want to retire to Maine? Take a peek at the new retirement guidelines for state workers.  They will be shocked by some of the changes implemented by LePage.

  • Anonymous

    Mismanaged companies who treat employees badly are a dime a dozen.  My experience has been that managers and supervisors often get promoted because of  longevity and not because of their ability to manage people.  As far as HR is concerned, they are under the thumb of the CEO and does what he says or they will be on unemployment.

  • Greg Rossel

    So our governor feels the desires and corporations should trumps home rule. Citizens and tax payers should be subservient to the goals of greater profitability for favored business entities. Who knew?

  • Anonymous

    Schools are in the business of teaching people how to think and giving them the ability to be trainable.  It is not up to the schools to train people in every different potential career.  That would be an impossible task and require an insane amount of funding.  Could you imagine how many more teachers and instructors we would need then?  Do you want to see your property and state income taxes double and triple?

  • Anonymous

    from the tone of all these comments,socking it to business is still in style.when will folks ever learn.you got to feed the cow if you expect to get  some milk.

  • Anonymous

    Here is an example for you.
    A thriving company in Bangor with branches in Augusta and the Portland area recently fired a worker for stealing from the company. Caught red handed. Another worker got done on his own, because he claimed that his wife made enough money so that he no longer had to work.
    Both of these people attempted to collect unemployment. It was of course denied in both cases, but required a hearing, costing the state money. Why would anyone caught stealing think they deserved unemployment? Why would anyone who left for no good reason think that they should be able to turn around and collect? Is this how the “true Mainers” you speak about think?

  • Anonymous

    “If you will not cooperate with the state, [if you are] stricter on regulations, then you lose revenue sharing,” said LePage.
    His cure for unemployment is to destroy home rule? That should go over well.

  • Anonymous

    whatever happened to employers training their own people?  Why should the taxpayer pick up the tab to  train feller buncher operators for Irving.  They are a multi-billion dollar, privately owner, foreign company.  Give me a break.

  • Anonymous

    When there is no alternative you can swallow a lot of pride and keep working. When you can sit home and be as well off there is no incentive. Everybody wants their dream job first thing.I worked a lot of crappy stressful no benefit jobs on my way up the ladder. Now I have a great job and skills that are in high demand and have a lot of respect and thankfulness for it because I didnt start out there

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZVOZU6JNL5ZDZW3VNASGTCCTY Clyde Grant

    But when the cow is getting too fat and giving less milk; then you either starve or bite the teat.  We have to do something.
    People have to have a living wage and just a little more than unemployment insurance isn’t it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    So what you are saying is go ahead and stay home and do not work somewhere because they do not pay enough?  Can you explain that to us?  Because I cannot imagine ever thinking that I would stay on unemployment if there were a job available no matter what the rate of pay or benefits offered.  No one owes you anything and to think otherwise is a big part of the problem.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Is that true, 93% turnover and are you saying they offer no benefits?  Where did you find that fact?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Gov should really look at getting employers to pay a living wage to those who are hired and have been on unemployment. I just got a full time job, and I was making more on unemployment, but hated being on it so I took the job; now I am looking for a part time job to supplement my incomne so I can at least pay my rent. I like working but made more on uib than I am being employed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    It amazed me a few weeks back when the BDN printed two stories. One with the Governor saying that business couild not get qualified labor, and the other about Cianbro winning an a award for retaining aging workers. Turns out that they used their vets to run their welding training program, and have probably trained more welders in the state then any one school.
    If the Governor was ever laid off and had to live off unemployment, I am sure he would realize it already is not enough to live on. I agree that more needs to be done to get discouraged workers out looking more, but cutting the already very low benefit is not the way.
    It’s seems that all of the new jobs and businesses that the Governor wants to bring must need minimum wage workers, so lets make people desperate to attract them!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZVOZU6JNL5ZDZW3VNASGTCCTY Clyde Grant

    How about this. Make a law that sets a percentage of the distribution of profit, but does not limit the amount of profit. EX: Business owner gets 60% and 40% is distributed to employees based on experience and job importance.  Then all have an incentive to provide a better product and/or better service. No need to negotiate except to review end of year profits.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    Move

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    I knew Bangor was in trouble when they banned fireworks!

  • Anonymous

    We have got to convince those who can work that we need to get them back
    to work,” said LePage. “Quite frankly, I think that might be a sign
    that we’re paying them a bit too much when they’re at home not working.   I agree!  A lot of people just want everything handed to them. Hard work  or free from the  hard work of someone else.  To many people have become depended on someone else.

  • Anonymous

    Hear say should not guide legislative decisions.  Unless there is a study which shows that the biggest competition for employers is the potential worker’s unemployment insurance program.  We also do not know if the employers are paying a wage lower than the worker can get from unemployment insurance.  LePage needs to do his homework!

  • Anonymous

    Where is this 93% turnover rate data from?

  • Anonymous

    Well said !!

  • Anonymous

    No one is demanding anything. As to your other point local business does communicate with the local tech schools. Varney’s or Quirk, can’t recall which, periodically give a new vehicle to the local tech schools for there students to work on.
    I don’t need a welder or an auto mechanic.

  • Anonymous

    So train the workers …. Welding in not rocket science. businesses need to set up training programs like they did 100 years ago ….. DIY

  • Anonymous

    True though.

  • Anonymous

    And I say any governor that puts corporate profits ahead of the well being of the state’s citizens should lose his job.

  • Anonymous

    I am curious. What program?
    As for the excitement factor a lot of that comes from the education system itself. We are fortunate to have the Voc tech school in Bangor.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to see a single state legislator vote for this measure.  I think LePage is creating another war his own party.

    Do you think Kevin Raye is going to go back to Eastport and tell them that they have to do what LePage tells them to or else?  No one (reasonable)  is going to talk to their constituents like that.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly ! They pay their CEOs millions but won’t invest in themselves to train new workers. Tax them till they invest in upgrades rather playing the stock market with extra cash.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t think so.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about Fisher (though I believe it because they are always advertising for help) however when I interviewed at Lowes I specifically asked what the employee turnover rate was.  I was told that the turnover rate was in excess of a 90% annually.  I asked why and was told, “it’s retail!”

    Just last night on TV I saw yet another farmer complaining about not being able to find illegal immigrant labor to pick his apples. When asked if a good wage would bring in American workers he said “no”. He said he paid his illegal workers up to $150/day. Sounds good eh. But to earn that much they had to pick 8,000 lbs of apples, by hand, in 9 hours. No benefits, no living quarters, no nothing. Picking 4 tons of apples by hand in 9 hours is a lot of work. You and I would probably manage 2,000 lbs on a good day. So really his pay rate stinks! That is why he cannot get American workers. Saw almost the same exact story a couple of days ago about a farmer down south who grows sweet potatoes.

  • Anonymous

    Where is the employers responsibility to train new workers?   

  • Anonymous

    exactly right

  • Anonymous

    there is a training wage.  it’s called the MINIMUM wage.  when you develop the skills, you get a raise.

    The training wage.  Pah-leeeze.  This is an excuse to bypass the minimum wage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4L63GCXJWMMCZUDDAVEFLEQLRI matt

    Thought the state did that as you applied for unemployment. Then they adjust your check from unemployment. If you had a good job and lost it you will  make more then some one working the 11-7 shift at McDonalds.

  • Anonymous

    extactly right again.  two for two!!

  • Anonymous

    No one is saying they own them anything, its just in there best interest to collect a bigger pay  check for there families. Why would they willingly give up more money?

  • Anonymous

    i do believe community colleges and tech schools have a place in the world.  But you are so right.  Even the best and brightest come out of school with about 10% of the skills you need.  The rest is all on the job.

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    Previous story about the lack of trained employees in the state. Straight from Fisher’s mouth.

  • jerome ennis

    Le Page is right on.  In the USA today, we have too much government and the associated regulations and the costs of running these governments is destroying the USA.  It is time for Local Citizens to take their towns and communities back.  It is time for states to refuse to follow federal mandates and dictates that are destroying this nation.  It is time to elect folks to national office who will go to DC and begin De-Construction of the Federal Government and begin the immediate Abolishment of Most of the Federal Agencies, Bureaus, Commissions and Departments that are running worthless bureaucracies that are becoming more and more fascistic.

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    Previous story about the lack of trained employees in the state. And since they hire temporary workers through an agency, they don’t give benefits to them. It’s advertised on the jobs in maine site.

  • Anonymous

    if he can write a decent proposal then he wouldn’t have had trouble in English Comp.

    why are you blaming the teachers for this guy?  are you so sure that everyone is out to get the poor working stiff?  that’s just paranoid.

  • Anonymous

    2015

  • Anonymous

    exactly. as a matter of fact, in several companies I have worked in, we chose NOT to hire people who had specific industry training because (they were ruined, we thought).  We wanted to teach them our way of doing it.  

  • Anonymous

    when you hire people, you have a responsibility towards them.  if you were not ready for the other part of owning a business, well, then you’re just not ready.  

  • Anonymous

    call your state rep.  i can not imagine a single state legislator looking their constituents in the eyes, telling them:  augusta is your master.  mach schnell!  

  • Anonymous
  • http://michigal.net Sue

    Absolutely I have. And it’s not easy. It’s not easy making a living in this state to begin with, but halve your wages (with unemployment) and you’ll see how quickly you end up homeless and starving.

    And no, I did not get any food stamps, and no Maine Care.

    LePlague is a total  maroon when it comes to actually knowing what real people (not his few supporters) are like and want. There is no way people would rather stay on the low unemployment compensation than actually work. Weren’t these people working to begin with? You have to have worked to draw unemployment. It’s not handed out just because you ask for it. And it’s not forever.  His ignorance is astounding.

    By the way, did you hear the latest? He’s hired a felon convicted of election fraud to oversee ways to reduce election fraud. Is he serious, and why are we putting up with this???? I agree it’s time to man up (or woman up) and stop him now before we truly do end up with a nineteenth century redux.

    http://politicalpulse.sunjournal.com/

  • Anonymous

    “General Washington Sir!
    The men in the lower valley are a bit cold and hungry, and were wondering about unemployment insurance.”

  • Anonymous

    Agreed 100% on the citizens electing stupid people.  Anyone who tells you they are going to fix all the ills is a bald faced liar.  We are mired so deep in…well greed, that those who have clout, will hold on to it at any cost.  I opened a small business in Maine, and I simply cannot afford to pay what I call a decent wage.  The main reason:  peoples disposable income cannot afford what my rates would be in order to pay employees a good livable wage.

    It’s a circle.  I can’t pay a good wage, because people can’t afford my services.  So, I don’t, pay one, and I add more people who can’t afford me.  Sounds crazy, but the economy today is a self-defeating mechanism.  What I need is a kickstart, and I don’t mean a handout, but how about relaxing some of the hoops I have to jump through.  I probably could raise hourly wages by about $2 per hour if I could de-regulate the state.

    All the wealth is flowing upstairs, and none of it, even excess profits, are flowing back into the job market.

    It’s the dog chasing his own tail in Maine.   I am also a Florida transplant, but I had the good sense to get out before the place collapsed.  Maine and Florida have a lot in common.  For one, the southern part of the states control the place, they have all the money, and they are not going to give up the power that comes with it.  Florida’s economy is also basically a service and tourist economy.  Like Maine, they don’t make much of anything, and most of the jobs are at about $9 an hour, maybe a bit better in southern Florida.

    Florida and Maine also have another thing in common, they haven’t lived within their own means for years.  Governments have been spending more than they take in for decades now, and that is going to be a hard trend to buck. 

  • Anonymous

    Kowtow (to business interests)

  • Anonymous

    Once again Da Guv. is talking the talk with NO idea of how to walk the walk. I’m Still Waiting for action. It’s impossible to FORCE people back to work if there are no jobs.

  • Anonymous

    sounds like the system worked.

    we can’t fix stupid, but we can work around it, no?

  • Anonymous

    I understand that the state regulations trump local if the local are not at least up to state standard and I also believe the state enforces their regulations if a town isn’t at least as strict as the state.  I don’t understand why any town will bother to adopt regulations in the future.  If the powers at be want to take over local regulations then they should also take over enforcement. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Thats like blameing Slaves on the Plantation for sticking around because they wheren’t any fences!
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Are you saying that all of their workers are temporary?  And hiring through an agency is what many employers do that need seasonal help but cannot afford to hire them permanently.  So saying that the business has 93% turnover may be a stretch or may not be a fact at all.  4mermainer accused me of lying on these pages a couple of days ago and I was just wondering if he/she was posting a fact or not.

  • Anonymous

    tks

  • Anonymous

    lol.  you didn’t buy the paper this morning, you are online.  

    you took the time to become a registered user and then you generated page views, multiple pages views as a matter of fact.  So.  lol,  don’t buy the paper.  They will love you for it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Well said, I did the same thing and worked for whatever my employer paid me.  I knew that if I remained focused on my goals, that I could attain them and I did and I am forever thankful for the small business people that hired me and paid me, even the minimum wage jobs.

  • Anonymous

    Augusta Georgia.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Because it is your responsibility to earn your own keep, not take from society.  If you are able to work, then you should and if it takes two jobs to take care of your family, then get two jobs.  Never is unemployment acceptable to employment if the opportunity is there.

  • Anonymous

    The implication is that he’s going to try to reduce unemployment benefits, but I’m pretty sure he can’t mess with unemployment insurance because it is a Federal-State program regulated by the U.S. Department of Labor, not the state.

  • Anonymous

    why?  is someone there trying to tell my city council how to vote?  Eff this idea that the State can bully the towns.

    business owners need to wake up and smell the coca cola.  (i own my own small biz) and I can see right through these guys.  These business are ‘complaining’ rather than solving.  Can’t find trained workers???  TRAIN THEM YOUR BLOODY SELF.

    trying to skirt around the minimum wage with a training wage??  the minimum wage IS the training wage!

    My state legislator was sent to August to represent my local government.  NOT to sell us out to a handful of companies who lack the vision to solve their own problems.

    pffffft on this entire ridiculous way of thinking.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

       Republicans deregulation caused the “great recession” and thier answer is more deregulation and bail outs for banks / buisnesses and   even lower wages and benefits for workers with an attack on the entitlements as well.

    No Bail outs for the workers when they cant find work, it’s  just,

     ”get a job you lazy bum”!

    No Republicans  “2012″
    Lets run these foul evil beasts back to the depths of  Hates from which they came !

  • Anonymous

    He wants to create ‘incentives for people to get off unemployment and get back to work’.  Now that tea party is going after the unemployed – suggesting that they are freeloaders?  I bet Penguin didn’t say anything like that when he was in Millincoket this week – where half of the population just spent 8 months ‘freeloading’ (as he would call it).

  • Anonymous

    Get rid of draft dodger Gov. Leplague……………!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Wondering where the 23% are who identify themselves as liberals? Look no further than these boards.

  • Anonymous

         This really sounds like “bubble” government. They “invite” business owners who complain, then the gov’s people try to satisfy them by passing regulations that effect the citizens.
         Does anyone listen to the remainder of the population?
         The repubs are always talking about “class warfare”. They’re the one’s creating this by governing in this way!  

  • Anonymous

    That is not the subject of my initial post. But I’ll take that anyway.. My business is too small to afford the $400k that FASTCO did in training theirs. But thats what business does.
    I’ll give you an example. If your business operates in a Microsoft Office environment and you need a person tomorrow, it doesn’t make sense to hire someone who was trained in Word Perfect. Do you spend the down time training them or do you hire the person sitting in the hallway with the needed skills?
    That is the situation I was addressing. I receive a booklet of resumes from the tech school every year. Some of the skills they are teaching haven’t been used in my industry in a decade. (They are only a year or two behind in software, which we can make up for.)
    I’ll tell you what my responsibility is. It is to keep my business up and running with the best people I can find. If that means we train them we will and we do but my responsibility is to myself and to my employees.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Oppps!

    Call Mardens for the Return Policy!

  • Anonymous

    HI I think that the gouoner should do some think about the unemployment on medical.Your out on medical leave under doctor care cant work it says you cant draw unemployment. Your bose knows why your out but uneplyment says must be avalible for work full time or cant draw WHY? its not right

  • Anonymous

    I decided on a career path, paid my own tuition. Graduated, got a job. Later on, decided I was fried with what I had been doing, sought out the educational training I needed for a new path, paid my own way, sought out companies that needed a person with my qualifications and voila, new job. Many companies will pay for employees to continue with their education. Some won’t, but in America you can choose to move on and pursue what you want. It’s all up to the individual. Too many people looking for someone to hold their hand. No matter how much help they are given it will never be enough. They will never be satisfied because they did not do it on their own. They did not grow. They take everything for granted and believe they are entitled.

  • Anonymous

    I hear you loud and clear.  And you are right in many, many ways. 
    But I think that the problem with some of this discussion (not you, just in general) is that we tend to separate and blame.  Governments fault.  Teachers are lazy, etc, etc.

    But in the real world (and it sounds like you have your feet firmly planted in it) groups are more interdependent.  Business has a responsibility in this case.  And since a talented labor pool benefits them, I have to ask, what are they doing to make that happen?

    And can you imagine the outcry if you suggest we spend more on education (now, when deficit is king)??  It’s like we forgot what INVESTMENT looks like.  we just hear ‘taxes, debt’ and the country collectively gets a case of the hives.

  • Sidney Bob

    He states “I’m a big believer in trying to get the state regulations no stricter than federal, and we’re trying to encourage the local communities to work with us to make their rules no stricter [than either],” 
     
    In other words, the state and localities should have NO regulations -that way the state and community regulations match federal. Why even have state and local governments at this point? That’s EXACTLY what the corporations who own government want.

  • Anonymous

    The headline should read “LePage Blames Lack of Jobs on the Unemployed.”

  • Anonymous

    Considering the number of towns/cities that have banned fireworks, I guess the state is going to save a ton of money if this passes.

  • Anonymous

    Well lets see if this helps you out a little. If you do this, this, and this you will get paid $1; however, it you do this you get paid $2. Now to do this , this, and this instead of just this, well lets just say that would be dum now wouldn’t it.

  • Anonymous

    I am not sure why you lit into me on this. All I did was clarify that the “Occupy Augusta” link you posted was Augusta Georgia.

    As for trained workers. If you read my posts you will discover I am not having any problem finding them. My entire point was that the tech schools at least in my industry aren’t doing very well and need more support. Probably more financing and new equipment. Whats your problem with that?

  • Anonymous

    INCREDIBLE!!  Every time he opens his mouth he projectile vomits ignorance………….

  • Anonymous

    That makes me chuckle. Have I ever been offered a crappy wage? Have I ever worked for peanuts. Have I ever worked for a wage so low that I’d be better off staying unemployed? What a monumental bunch of poop. Are you kidding me? I do what I’ve always done. I’ve cleaned toilets and swept floors when I lost a good job. I worked several jobs to make ends meet. I retrained and sought a better education on my own. I did what men and women all over the country do. I did what I had to. Try it, you’ll like yourself a whole lot more. If there’s no work in your area, then you may have to move. Where there’s a will there’s a way. Time to stop being a victim.

  • Anonymous

    And what makes you think a lot of the unemployed people haven’t worked a lot of crappy jobs already and thought they paid their dues and all of a sudden lost their “dream job”? What would you do if you lost your job right now and could only get a part time job with no benefits? I suppose you’d take it and make less than unemployment to keep your “pride”  never mind your starving children freezing this winter.

  • Anonymous

    By the way, I’ve been self-employed and have had employees since 1995.

  • Anonymous

    Well, the idea is to attract new businesses and encourage investment and growth in the ones we still have. Then there will be more to choose from. A climate that encourages and attracts business is needed though. There has to be a partnership between business and communities. Businesses need to see they are welcomed and communities want them and are willing to give in order to get. Lagniappe, you got to give a little to get a little. Communities need the revenue generated from business through income taxes, property taxes, etc. We seem to be biting the hand that feeds us. We need business as much as business needs us.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    The problem is…that simply is NOT the way things work anymore.  I also remember when hard work and commitment was rewarded and you would be promoted and rewarded for being a good employee.  That’s not how it is now and that is part of why people are so angry.  Employers do NOT value good employees any longer.  Employers only care about making as much money as they can for themselves and their CEOs (which is usually themselves or family members.)

  • Anonymous

    I read this post after your other. I think the best place to put educational dollars these days is the tech schools. In my opinion there is a lot of waste in the University system. Too many campuses, Chancellors office University programs that might be appropriate at Harvard but at Maine?

  • Anonymous

    Headline should read “King Paul seeks absolute control over all of Maine.” 

    Is there anybody still on the fence on whether this man and his party are radicals?

  • Anonymous

    Since ’95.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    Cut their pay, take away their benefits and eliminate their retirement and then send them packing back to their respective states and let them experience what American citizens are experiencing.  Then they might understand why they are so inherently WRONG.

  • Anonymous

    “Quite frankly, I think that might be a sign that we’re paying them a bit too much when they’re at home not working.”
    Or could it be that minimum wage is too low for a person to pay for their gas to and from work and still have more than they can get from unemployment. Add to that the fact that if they have children they don’t have to pay for child care and can raise their own kids…Just a thought….

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand…. a lot of ppl work hard through the Spring, Summer and Fall doing  their part to appease the tourists and also to keep their homes and their families fed.  There are few jobs in Winter that will see you through until your job starts again. The unemployment that is taken from their paycheck sees them through and you want to take that from them? Let’s look at the real problem. Get rid of the “Harvester” machines, (that are rented for how much?) and hire more ppl to go into the woods and do it the old fashioned way. There are many alternatives to increase jobs and get our State balanced financially.  You can’t take away unemployment unless you can assure ppl that there is work for them to do.  The corporates have found every loophole to prevent paying out and stuffed it into their own bellies. It time for the lid to be lifted to view the real source of why this has become an issue.   Such an unfair game for good hard working Maine ppl! Let’s not forget too, that there are many “shifty” businesses who take money from hard working ppl unfairly.  There needs to be overseers and supervisors for accountability.  What worked before can work again!

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    I am also quite appalled and disgusted with the attitude that these companies think people should land in their laps with specialized training.  It’s ridiculous and reeks of a very disturbing sense of entitlement.  It’s like a bunch of spoiled little brats that think the world revolves around them.  They need to grow up and train their own workforce.  

  • Anonymous

    “Radicals”. You say that like it is a bad thing. March down to Wall Street if you want to see more radicals.

    As a business owner that employees hundreds of people, it is refreshing to have a governor trying to add more resources to our business instead of robbing us of it.

  • Anonymous

    Yet another stupid and mean-spirited idea from a man who knows very little else except how to promote the sale of smoke-damaged goods. We get what the winning bloc of ignorant voters asked for. 

    Perhaps someone might explain to our embarrassing excuse for a governor that unemployed workers are not just some more of his boogeyman deadbeat welfare recipients. They paid their fair share against the very real possibility Wall Street scoundrels and other agents of fate might eliminate their livelihoods. They’re not charity recipients. They’re ENTITLED to unemployment benefits.

    It’s significant that LePage doesn’t mention whether his cronies in the business world have been frustrated in offering FULLTIME work to these supposedly lazy deadbeats laying about the house without a regular fulltime job. Perhaps a 55-year-old unemployed papermaker who until the industry tanked took home nearly $50,000 a year is not inclined to jeopardize those meager jobless benefits in order to compete with teenagers for parttime $7.50 minimum wage jobs raking lawns, shoveling snow — or sweeping up crap from the floor in a Marden’s store. Perhaps that person is busy sending out resumes or trying to learn new “real job” skills.

  • Anonymous

    “If you will not cooperate with the state…then you lose revenue sharing. Obviously you don’t need the revenue.”  All stick and no carrot. The man’s bully genes keep taking over, don’t they?

  • Anonymous

    LePage isn’t as savvy as Obama, probably not even Baldacci, but his actions validate that he would like to save Maine from economic chaos. Those that feel we should grow government and implement more regulations into our great State really need a history lesson. you don’t have to go back that far either. Take a look at California.

  • Anonymous

    need we repeat this yet once again that millions of us americans got laid off through no fault of our own but rather from a combination of unfortunate circumstances – recession, bank and corporate greed re: mismanagement of the financial and mortgage markets, unfunded hugely costly wars by the Bush administration, unfunded hugely costly medicare drug program by the bush program, and continual low tax rates for the super rich.  and now we all search for jobs that are very hard to come by if found at all.  and our gov’nah is aiming to penalize those who are in most need of help during this economic downturn? pish. as for mr. porter of the bangor chamber of commerce, one cannot hold much faith in the local and national chambers as initiators of new jobs or an improvement in our situation. the chamber is an organization that partners with the villain banksters and wall street, that stomps on ANY effort to make a worker’s environment a bit better (think their recent past successful effort to stomp out 3 paid sick days for workers in Maine).  occupy wall street, occupy usa…WE THE PEOPLE (99%) did NOT create this problem, WE THE PEOPLE should NOT be be asked to fix it!

  • Anonymous

    If more of us would pitch in and help LaPage this state would turn around.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    I keep trying to point out that it’s all about supply and demand, but most ignore that.  If people can’t afford to buy your products or services your business isn’t going to thrive.  For small businesses this is especially hard because, as you pointed out, you don’t bring in enough money to be able to do the right thing by your employees.  When you hear people talking about corporate greed and hating on businesses…it is NOT those small businesses who WANT to do right by their employees but just can’t.  They are talking about huge corporations who CAN afford to do the right thing but choose not to while their CEO is raking in millions in annual salary while also getting millions more in bonuses.  Those companies could create jobs IF they wanted to…but they don’t NEED to because people don’t have the money to buy their goods and services….but if they would hire more people then demand WOULD increase.

    You do seem to “get it,” and I hope you try to not get offended by the anger towards big businesses.  You should be angry at them too.  If they hadn’t shipped off so many jobs offshore we’d ALL be a lot better off…including small businesses.  Good luck with your business.

  • Anonymous

    Why should the taxpayer pick up the tab? Surely you understand we live in a corporate welfare state where our governor is just another whiner on behalf of these deadbeats. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    By using federal regulations as the benchmark for regulations in Maine, we allow states like Mississippi,  Alabama, and Texas to have influence over Maine.   Arch-conservatives from those states water down federal regulations.  Do we really want Texas to determine what is right for Maine?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-Ruhlin/1588252249 Christopher Ruhlin

    LePage is winning over this diehard liberal….

    The nanny is slowly strangling the children.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    Anyone who goes into business without first having a clear business plan in place and getting all the details you mentioned sorted out ahead of time is a fool.  Just keeping it real…

  • Anonymous

    Where do you think the State gets it’s money?  Local control can also mean keeping local money kept in local coffers.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    He has run out of groups who didn’t vote for him to offend at this point…looks like it’s the Libertarians and Constitutional believers’ turn this time.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    The ONLY way to stop him is to vote straight Democrat for every state election until they have the majority in the legislature.  That will politically neuter this nightmare of a governor until we can vote his arse out of office and out of Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Tax-payers pay for a tech school. A tech school trains a welder. The welder takes an entry level job with a company that has a big contract. The company finishes the contract and lays off the welder.  6 months later, the company gets a new contract and needs an entry level welder. Their first welder is now in culinary school so the company complains to the Gov about not enough trained employees.
    A long time ago I worked for a company that started every one off at the same level, in the warehouse. Each employee learned the process from the ground up. Employees moved around until they found what they liked best. Each employee was responsible for the product they built. The company paid the highest wages in the industry, with great benefits, and also was one of the most profitable in the industry, growing from 100K sales to 70 million in 11 years.  A multinational corporation came in and bought it, brought in a ton of management experts, got rid of most of the employees, moved the manufacturing facilities and led the company into bankruptcy.
    Companies no longer invest in their employees, which is the most profitable investment they can make.

  • Anonymous

    On one hand the feds need to let the state and local government call the shots, on the other hand  maybe just the governor should tell the communities what is in their best interests.  If I don’t want a Mardens in my town, I don’t want the state telling me I need to have one.  PERIOD.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The maximum benefit available is $366/week plus $10 per dependent, but the benefit is based on the pay prior to becoming unemployed.  If someone had been making $12/hr. for a 40 hour-week for 13 weeks, their pay for the quarter would have been $6240.  The rule is then to divide by 22, and the weekly benefit would be about $280 a week plus an additional $10 for each dependent.  That is an annual income of about $15,000.  If the alternative is say a $9/hr job for 2000 hours, that comes out to be $18,000.  Figure in the additional costs of transportation, child-care, etc., and that $9/hr. job does not seem to be a gain, at least not immediately.  So maybe Governor LePage is right.  Unemployment benefits need to be reduced to make the $9/hr job more attractive.  Why do the name Bob Cratchit and the word gruel now come to mind?

  • ledabeth

    Wait a minute– he wants to take away local control?  I bet the Founding Fathers would like that one. I think he should be listening to small businesses– real ones. The ones that would like to hire and have some money to do so but are getting killed by  employer taxes.  They are the best chance we have for turning around unemployment.  Not Irving, which is a large Canadian company– with profits going back to Canada–who is looking for operators to run automated logging equipment (meaning less jobs).  They probably send their logs back to Canada for processing, too. 

  • Anonymous

    It used to be if you had any skills at all the jobs listing
    in the paper was a cornucopia of employment. Even if you had no skills you
    still could find employment providing you had motivation and ambition, circa mid
    60’s. Large companies didn’t have to worry about finding skilled labor because
    they developed their own skilled labor in-house. Most of these jobs where keepers,
    you could put down stakes and feel secure enough to start a family. There was a
    symbiotic relationship between employee and employer. You felt part of a larger
    family that made your life better because they provided things like profit-sharing
    and full benefits and expressed genuine concern for you and your family. That
    all changed in a heartbeat.

    As these companies grew something started to happen to the
    employees and the employers. Employees started to believe that simply by
    showing up for work that it would be enough to keep your employer in business. When
    payday came the employee got paid regardless of whether or not they made a nickel
    that week for their employer.

    After years of growth employers realized they could be more profitable
    started to pull in the reins, cut bennies, stopped in-house training
    and started weighing each employee’s contribution as an asset or liability,
    ending the years of symbiosis, ending the alliance between employee and employer,
    neither felt any reason to be committed to each other.

    Employers refocused resources on exorbitant CEO and
    administrative pay and outsourcing anything that could be, including the
    employees, driving a bigger wedge into the commitment between the two.  

    The fact of the matter is those who are successful starting
    their own business are so because they have the vision, the drive and the
    tenacity to make it so. Anyone who has ever started their own business knows how
    difficult it is to find people who share similar ambition. Coming to work isn’t
    enough anymore to make you a valuable employee, those days are long gone. Conversely
    most jobs being offered these days are of the type that actually requires little
    ambition, making them completely unattractive to anyone who requires a challenge.
    The one thing I’m sure of ….. regulations aren’t the problem.

  • Anonymous

    Three words:

    “Closed to the media”

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    Why can’t you teach people with the aptitude and capacity to learn those skills to do the job?  I’ve done a lot of different manufacturing work in the past and there was never any task that took me more than about 30 minutes to master well enough to be able to perform independently.  

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    All while getting massive tax breaks for supposedly investing in business development.  It’s a big joke.  Those breaks just line the pockets of their CEOs…they don’t develope jack squat.

  • Anonymous

    or perhaps the prospective employee can sit around and wait for a job to magically materialize while someone with the necessary skills was hired instead of them.

  • Anonymous

    Good points. Regulations are not the whole problem agreed. But it is an obstacle in many settings that needs to be examined and actions must be taken.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been paying taxes that contributes to unemployment insurance.  Can you explain to me why I would not be entitled to collect unemployment insurance if I lost my job?

  • Anonymous

    This makes perfect sense.  If your community wants to be more “giving” than the State, then pay for it .  Who said socialism works until you run out of everyone elses money?  Whoever ever said it was a great lady and leader. 

  • Anonymous

    I have said it before and I will say it again, “This governor and his cronies will not be happy until we are all working for minimum wage and no benefits”. 

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s funny in advocating to get rid of some state agencies, LePage stated that communities should be able to make their own decisions. Now he’s using money to influence the decisions of communities. Seems like he kind of just says whatever sounds good.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, My point about regs is, I’m don’t think
    anyone starts a “small business” thinking about regs. Secondly when
    business was booming in 60′s and 70′s regs. didn’t seem to be an issue then?
    Regs. didn’t become an issue till Reagan and Regan de-regulated things.

  • Anonymous

    BDN 10/5/2011………..“January 1, we hired 101 workers. 92 have been terminated, left on their own accord or found other jobs or found the work is not what they wanted,” said Jim Lattin, a controller at Fisher Engineering.

    Could you or would you stay in business very long with that type of turn over? I know I sure as heck couldn’t.

  • Anonymous

    I know personally of someone who works seasonnal jobs and during down times clears more per week on unemployment than the paid jobs.  That’s not a good reason to stick with fun, seasonal jobs vs getting a real job and paying your bills and pulling your weight when you are an able bodied person.

  • Anonymous

    Gov. Lepage, I support you onmost things but on this.  GET OUT OF MY BACK YARD…All politics is local and home rule authority means that each town and city gets to decide for themselves what best fits thier needs and desires.  If Lubec wants a casino than thats ok by me but do not tell me that my town is going to be penalized for not allowing development like that,  WE the citizens decide what is best for us, NOT YOU or anyone else in Disgusta!

  • Anonymous

    Destroying the US economy with rampant deregulation is radical. Rewriting election laws to limit access is radical. Going to war without a transparent purpose is radical. Responding to increasing inequality with regressive tax proposals is radical. Pushing for austerity during a weak economic cycle is radical. These responses have always been radical notions until the media ownership became concentrated, robbing the people of sensible dialog and instead using the media as a tool of misinformation and self-serving propaganda.

    What is not radical is what you are seeing on Wall Street and everywhere around the nation. Protests are a rational response to a government that is not responding to the people’s needs. Protests like the Occupy events are what our founders intended when they created our democracy. They knew that monied interests have historically corrupted government, even then. It was with this very set of circumstances in mind that the bill of rights was written. When the government is no longer reasonable and responsive, the people have a special set of rights they are FREE to exercise to redress their grievances.

    Your excitement about the short term gains these policies may enable for YOU come at the expense of many of the rest of us. Maine has had a very effective set of programs and tools in place to assist, encourage and enable small business creation and growth. Far richer a set of programs than most states enjoy. I would encourage you to utilize the resources at your disposal.

    I spent a good bit of my career involved in economic development work for small businesses here and in Texas. Maine offers so much more in the way of capital access and workforce development than most other states. I applaud the small business advocate in principle but see little else that will really make a difference for your business in the long term.

    Maine has a special set of economic and competitiveness issues. Most of that is geographical and will not be improved in any meaningful way through deregulation. The place that this administrations policies will actually hurt you are in the halt to bonding for non-profit agencies that help small business and in the removal of health care laws that have already resulted in substantial increases in premiums for many employers. On the balance, even in your situation, you will not be able to enjoy sustained benefit from these policies. They will prove short sighted and beneficial to only the biggest corporations and tax payers.

  • Anonymous

    Well, if you’ve got two kids and a morgage, and you make $7.25 minimum wage for 25 hours a week and $9.50 for 40 hours on unemployment–and you’ve already put 20 years of labor and taxes into the system–which would you choose? No brainer. Lots of people being fired from their jobs are in their 40s and 50s and its just not easy to start a new career or to work for Dunkin’ Donuts and stay on your feet, all day.
    Definitely something needs to be done about the amount of people that collect public benefits in Maine–not just unemployment but also welfare–but by limiting the number of years that a person can collect welfare benefits, the Gov. might be shooting himself in the foot in terms of economic development in central in northern Maine. Like it or not, a lot of businesses are reliant, in a sense, on those checks–people couldn’t buy much without them.

  • Anonymous

    I see that all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Aah, it’s starting to make sense to me now.  Businesses don’t want to have to pay to train employees because then that would mean financial consequences for firing or losing employees who are already trained in order to keep wages down.

  • Anonymous

    ???????

  • Anonymous

    “Probably more financing and new equipment”

    Let Irving or other companies pay for it and not the tax payer   :-/

  • Anonymous

    A little off track here but one comment I would make about the pickers of apples in Washington State, I am not opposed to trucking verifiable illegal immigrants from Mexico to pick the apples for whatever crop BUT after the picking is done they would be trucked back to their home country.  I know they need the money to feed their families and they work hard for the money.  They are doing jobs we as Americans choose for whatever reason not to do.  Another suggestion is the old chain gangs of prisoners from the prisons to pick the crops.
    The thing some of you are missing as to why one would stay on unemployment instead of taking a job that pays less without any benefits the answer for most of them is simple, they have families that depend on then.  Unemployment doesn’t pay that much as Lepage seems to think.  People are barely getting by and keeping a roof over the heads of their children and food on the table.  If he thinks it is so great maybe he should accept the amount the average receive on unemployment and give the rest of his salary to the State coffers to help out with the State budget.  His daughter could also do with a wage reduction and have to find lodging on her own instead of living with dear ole’ Dad for free and at our expense…..

  • Anonymous

    Of course it would make sense to you progressive types. Your goal is to keep ‘em fat, dumb and lazy down on the welfare plantation so you can keep your social service job providing employment for yourself.  Now who would want a self reliant educated person in the work force? You might get laid off if people can take care of themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Greed is a funny thing. It comes in many forms, shapes and manner. Greed is everywhere. Ever watched people kill each other during black Friday? Ever watch people shovel mounds of food down their gullets like sea gulls at a buffet? Long after they’re full? Ever hear about employees pilfering from their employer? What about being undercharged for a service or product and keeping quiet about it? How about seasonal workers that are content to sit on their butts through the winter collecting unemployment when they could be working? Think about it, greed is everywhere. Isn’t it greedy to want to take someone else’s success and take it for your own just because you feel you are entitled? Yep, there is definitely greed in corporations, Wall Street and even Main Street. We are all  guilty.

  • Anonymous

    You have really gone off the rails with that comment.  First of all, I don’t work in social services.  Second, what the heck has that got to do with businesses not wanting to have to pay to train employees?

  • Anonymous

    You have got to be kidding! Do you not understand that is how oppression works.

  • Anonymous

    LePage says, ” I think that might be a sign that we’re paying them too much when they’re home not working”.  Really???  Quite Frankly, I think this is wrong to make the unemployed suffer even more than they are!!!  So, for instance, Lowes employees should have to pay the price for a (chain) business going belly-up in many areas? And many others are closing in this state, as well. I live in Ellsworth and just recently Friendlys first, followed by Lowes , sends away many to become unemployed. Oh,and yes. These places won’t hire FULL TIME employees , except for management. Those with lower paying jobs, less hours and no benefits are the ones who pay the price. These are the same people who have worked their butts off, grateful to have a job and SHOWING UP to do their jobs. So LePage thinks the unemployed are being paid too much???
    REALLY!!!???? You’re NOT serious are you, LePage!! 
    End note: I have never received unemployment in my life and I am 55.   

  • Anonymous

    Was that when minimum wage actually could take care of a family? I think most of us have done exactly as you have done. And, not everyone can even get unemployment insurance. You have to ‘qualify’ for it by meeting certain conditions. As consumers we paid into the system. No business does not pass on those costs to the consumer. We pay for that fail safe, and it is not that ‘safe’ now.

  • Anonymous

    Boy, I sure hope part-timers know in the state of Maine they can collect unemployment if their hours are below a certain minimum. These laws are there for a reason. It is paid for by the American consumer of which group the unemployed are still a member. So their unemployment check is going right back into the hands of the businesses. Businesses benefit from those unemployment checks. Can’t imagine anyone is banking them.

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t possible to collect more in unemployment benefits than what your job income was, unless they referred back to a previous, higher paying job.  I believe unemployment payments are capped at $366 a week, and are subject to income tax.

  • Anonymous

    I have a friend who collects $258 a week in UE benefits, he was offered a job, 4 hours nightly, 5 days a week at $8 per hr. The job site is 20 miles from his home. He figured that by accepting the job his net pay would be $140, plus $40. for gas. He would still be eligible for partial UE, $258 -$160 gross pay, = $98 plus net pay $140 = $238 minus $40 for gas = $198 weekly to live on. where’s the incentive?

  • Anonymous

    Have you ever been fired from a job? No? Okay, then. You actually have no experience upon which to base your position. Yes? Would you have been able to collect and chose not to? You are right. It is a choice. To accept and be thankful for jobs that do not pay a living wage because your work/contribution is not worth it, or to protest and say all work should be dignified with a living wage (which does not provide disposable income). Does unemployment equal a living wage? That I do not know. In the Bangor area a living wage for a single person is $8something/hour, a family of 4 $17something/hour.

  • Anonymous

    You know, I was trying hard to remember that myself. It was a few years ago at Kennebec Valley Community College. If I can pull it out of this graying grey matter I will let you know.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the chuckle. That is perfect!

  • Anonymous

    Amen!

  • Anonymous

    Oh please. What seasonal jobs pay enough to have the unemployment check amount to anything? Give me some specifics, some data here and then your argument will have some weight.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, he is!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RJVHZNX3KLJMQK7QUDFDRHZ66A Miranda

    reducing unemployment benifits will only hurt the state. Maine has a lot of seasonal workers who need the  unemployment benifits to get threw the winter months . 90% of thease workers barly make ends meet when the unemployment is half ( if that) of what they where making during the season .If thease people loose what little they get who is going to take these jobs? A lot of people are going to stop working the seasonal jobs the little bit they get is the INCENTIVE TO STAY

  • Anonymous

    He is an autocrat (the Governor.)

  • Anonymous

    That is the way ALEC runs its gatherings. ALEC is here and in control. Join us on ALEC Watch in Maine, a Facebook page, to stay informed.

  • Anonymous

    Personally, don’t want to turn in that direction.

  • Anonymous

    He is a sad specimen of a governor.

  • Anonymous

    Just exactly like Obama!!

  • Anonymous

    You don’t get it, He/she is a right winger who always makes inane comments (to try and rile) to my liberal views.   He has had many deleted.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and “how would they know!!” They claim to know about others and yet post frequently themselves. They don’t know your circumstances, although they arrogantly claim to .

  • Anonymous

    Yes, paranoid (but you’ve read them before.)  And blaming teachers quite often also fits in with their “world view.”

  • Anonymous

    that’s what you purchase short and long term disability for………unemployment shouldn’t pay for medical leave……really???

  • Anonymous

    There is way too much of that…..way too much. Another one of the major problems. This has been going on for far too long.

  • Anonymous

    And he thinks they pay to much  to people on unemployment.

  • Anonymous

    Consider the source.

  • Anonymous

    Momma’s wrong again.

  • Anonymous

    BDN 10/5/2011………..“January 1, we hired 101 workers. 92 have been terminated, left on their own accord or found other jobs or found the work is not what they wanted,” said Jim Lattin, a controller at Fisher Engineering.

  • Anonymous

    Making a lot of assumptions about an online poster you have never met. If it makes you feel better, but you have no real basis for your assumptions.

  • Anonymous

    He thinks he is an autocrat.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Some questions worth asking:

    What businesses are attending these workshops? 
    What is the criteria for attending a workshop? 

    Are these businesses handpicked? 

    Is any small business able to attend?

    I find it hard to believe that a “number of businesses” would be able to say their competition is unemployment insurance. If they are paying their workers on par with UI, I don’t think I would want to work there either. Probably no benefits or security. I have been self-employed for years so I have never receive UI benefits, but it seem a pretty ridiculous claim to say those receiving the miserly amount offered like it, and choose it. 

    So, is this another one of the gov’nah’s “someone told me” moments?

    UPDATE: just noticed that the businesspeople were “invited.” The best way to get support for your agenda in soundbites and photo ops is to fill the audience with your supporters…

    On its face these fact finding missions are a FARCE, unless those organizing these things can prove otherwise.

    2nd UPDATE: there is an online registration form. Talked with someone in the Gov’s office. She didn’t know what if any criteria was used and forwarded me to Laura LePage, with whom I left a voice mail message asking what the criteria is. As a one person small business LLC, I filled out the form and hope to be one of the chosen. I’m expecting to hear back from Ms. LePage, hopefully with some answers as to what criteria is used.

    I’ll give the gov’nah the benefit of the doubt until I hear more as to whether or not this is hand picking the choir he listens to as they sing… He’ll certainly hear what he wants to hear thanks to that selective hearing phenomenon, but I hope the process at least attempts to be fair and inclusive. The GOP is not exactly known for that virtue.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    It seems all part and parcel of the nationwide GOP strategy to blame the victim in order to get their self-serving policies by. Those that gobble up that BS simply don’t have a clue.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Oh yeah, stiff? What do you do that you see this all the time?

  • Anonymous

    And do all the middle aged men in DC who hate abortions really care about people…OR do they want a large poor population to exploit? An important aspect of this particular US scenario is , do these middle aged white men who supposedly represent US really care about the people that they are elected to represent or corporations. Right now , they are figuring out how to cut medicare / medicaid and social security while keeping the military industrial complex going strong. Military bases all over the world and war starting on new fronts continuously. 

    Does our governor really care about Mainers or “business”/ corporations? Quite a few of US know the answer. 

  • Anonymous

    You said it all. A desperate work force is ideal for our vulture capitalists all across society. 

  • Anonymous

    “Another suggestion is the old chain gangs of prisoners from the prisons to pick the crops.”

    That is already going on, prison labor all over the US. WE have the largest prison population in the world. 

    From the 14 points of fascism.

    10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated 

    Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.

  • Anonymous

    The US socializes loss and capitalizes profits. WE are not a democracy. Read TART…Trillions in bank bail outs. No prosecution for criminal conduct of banks.

    Occupy Wall Street

  • Anonymous

    Family values has changed. Now you have to hate workers, people with retirement accounts and teachers to really be a family values participant. Gays, blacks and single moms are no longer on the hit list. From the 14 points of fascism

    3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause 

    The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

  • Anonymous

    Some people don’t want to know how oppression works. It is working for them to make an extra dollar.

  • Anonymous

    NAFTA…tax payer dollars to send good jobs overseas. What happens when your job is moved and you have no skills or got old? TARP bail out for banks while they were illegally foreclosing people’s houses. Fascism at work here in the US. If you want to know what is going on, read the Guardian out of Great Britain online. They are covering our revolution.

    From the 14 points of fascism6. A controlled mass media 

    Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.

  • Anonymous

    Everything goes up with inflation, except hourly wages to employees…businesses look for ways to make ends meet and employees take a brunt of that look…The Guvnah is supporting big business/GOP agenda with his unemployment insurance propsal…Junker207 has it about right saying that his cronies won’t be happy ’til we’re all making minimum wage with no benefits…maybe Paul Cratchit will find the Christmas Spirit and we’ll get a little spice in our gruel…

  • Anonymous

    It makes no sense to force people to accept wages that are even lower than the pittance they receive on unemployment. People can’t support themselves on a minimum wage part time job.

    I know several people who are working 2 and 3, comparatively, low paying part time jobs that pay no benefits just to try and keep up after losing their career jobs.

    Joker, LePage needs to look at the bigger picture and stop threatening the unemployed and the poor whose towns still comprise his constituency whether he likes it or not.

    Better yet, resign…

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Take you own advice. Think about it. You are trying to describe a class of people that you don’t even know exists. You don’t have any numbers about how many, if any, and you haven’t a clue whether they do this by choice, or whether they are tied down to a location by a sick mother or father, by children, by health concerns, by any number of perfectly legitimate situations that prevent them from moving to where a job is or finding another job…

    Try thinking…

  • Anonymous

    First of all business under the right circumstances has no problem training employees. Its done all the time. It would be nice if people took some initiative themselves. Obviously personal initiative is not high on your to do list, but it is a consideration when interviewing a prospective employee.

  • Anonymous

    Lol…I’m laughing with you…you would be amazed at some of the ideas that some of these small town fathers have about their small towns…like wanting to put a choke hold on businesses coming in and competing for labor with businesses that are already there…so it doesn’t surprise me that the State is having such a cow with local regulations…I’m not saying they are right or wrong, just that there’s a lot of who know’s what goin’ on behind closed doors and outside the media purview…

  • http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

    Energy: I read yesterday that Apple’s iCloud servers will be powered by a wind generation facility in South Carolina (or maybe North Carolina), wind power, anyway. In the western mountains and on the coast there is quite a bit of renewable energy to supplement a business’s energy needs. Backyard Beauties in Madison located their one million square foot greenhouse after winning favorable energy contracts from a local energy producer. They were adding a second greenhouse to handle other produce. The first is the largest building in Maine, and inside is very impressive with 12ft tomato vines almost from wall to wall. LePage’s visit to Quebec is likely to tapped into the HydroQuebec system, that energy project that disrupted thousands and thousands of acres of pristine forest and habitat along Hudson Bay. 

    HydroQuebec has been in service for quite some time. Seems energy availability might not be a big a problem as is being let on. Cost, maybe, but isn’t that driven by how markets operate, especially if supply isn’t as much an issue? 

  • Anonymous

    Ever seen this Mary Belle ? 

    Henry A. Wallace, The Danger of American Fascismnewdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htmFrom Henry A. Wallace, Democracy Reborn (New York, 1944), edited by Russell Lord… A fascist is one whose lust for money or power is combined with such an …

  • Anonymous

    Questioning my honesty once again I see. Apparently it never stops with you and those of your ilk. Why is that? Could it be that everything you post is a lie and you feel everyone does the same.?As I told you when I rightly accused you of lying, something you have never refuted I might add, I back what I say up with facts. I have provided the source elsewhere on this forum but just so you will not be able to falsely accuse me of lying once again I will provide it again. 

    BDN 10/5/2011………..“January 1, we hired 101 workers. 92 have been terminated, left on their own accord or found other jobs or found the work is not what they wanted,” said Jim Lattin, a controller at Fisher Engineering.

  • Anonymous

    “all the middle aged men in DC who hate abortions” just want a wedge issue to exploit . 

    Did they do anything about it when they controlled the WH and Congress ? 

  • Anonymous

    in all cases unemployment is about 65/75% of what the person of average/or less ability is worth in a full work week.unemployment is competition for these businesses…thats just disgusting.what about the people that bring home over 1000 a week? unemployment isnt 40% of their gross.when you cant pay the bills on unemployment why would anyone in their right mind consider going to work for less?

  • Anonymous

    Why not just pay the workers what they do to the agency ? 

  • Anonymous

    He thinks everyone except him and his daughter get paid too much. 

  • Anonymous

    We had the largest growth of the Federal Government since FDR when George W was President.  Where was the outrage then?

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t just that just  like what else is coming out of those meetings: 
    … the State need to train our workers for us and do it better
    ….  and lower our energy costs, !?! 

  • Anonymous

    Off topic and insulting as usual.  Pathetic twerp pretending to be a big man, cackling over his meager profits while his hapless employees bust as$ and he posts on the internet all day. Some work ethic you have.

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    I worked there. They hire as temps with a “maybe” to hire. It took them over 6 mos. to finally hire me as an employee, with my night supervisor begging them to do so. I was there until the end of Jan 2007 when they had massive terminations due to truck sales tanking. Those that were making higher pay got terminated, rather than just laid off. Funny thing is, their HR director thought my starting date was a year later, and thus I get a very small pension from them when I hit retirement age. By miniscule, I think it’s around $75.

    A lot of people would get tired of waiting to be hired, and would leave to look for better jobs. Or they’d be hired with a promise of permanent employment, and once early order work was done, just terminated. And then they’d whine about how they can’t find good help. Well, yeah, everyone in the state had been hired at one time and screwed over by them. When I was there, people were hired from Vermont, New York and other states for heaven’s sake, because their policies had left no one in this state that would ever go back.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSBAAXFEXTIBDSRA5X3FA6TSG4 jersey

    It is a cycle. They get unemployment, then food stamps, then Mainecare, then etc. Then they dont go back to work because they will lose everything. If we go back to people helping people instead of a faceless government giving handouts people would go to work. 

  • Anonymous

    Registering Republican, going to the caucus, and convention,  so making the tea party run as what they are, then voting anyway you want….   is an option. 
    ; ) 

  • ladybaroque

    Honestly, this is so b.s.  I have lost unemployment benefits and I was in an approved training program through the department of labor.  I have been looking for a job now for 2 solid months with no success.  I am have a bachelor’s degree and an ed tech certification.  There are just not enough jobs out there for the number of unemployed people in the state of Maine. 

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the info…your Highness
     

  • Anonymous

    I’m so excited to have this tyrannical lunatic in office…makes it feel just like my old home in Mother Russia.

  • Never Applicable

    Remember too the farmer has no business incentive to hire legally, because he would have to collect SS numbers, pay employment taxes, social security, medicare, withholding taxes, a lot more paperwork to employ legal workers involved.  It’s much cheaper in more ways that pay to not hire legal workers.  On the other hand, several southern states wanted this .. they voted these legislators into office ..  they need to deal with what they sowed in their own states and quit bellyaching. 

    And FWIW I checked the math on the guy getting $258 in unemployment benefits – $6.45 per hour for a 40 hour work week.  Really raking it in. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PV4CYCJTMR72D2GJP7KHVMCURU charles

    My 1st question to LePuke would have to be are they going to pay a living wage? I know from experince that they may want you to join the company but the wages will not cover food, shelter, and transportation. But I don’t believe that LePuke cares about the workers anyways just that bottom line and how much he can take home for himself like most of the CEO’s

  • Anonymous

    The governor’s thinking is interesting as usual.  Wasn’t it a few weeks ago he was claiming that business was saying that there were plenty of available jobs in Maine, however, they required skills that weren’t had by a lot of people in Maine.  Now the governor is saying that the unemployment benefits are too generous and that if they cut them down those who are on unemployment will have to go back to work.   Which is it?  Are the unemployed those masses of skilled workers refusing to return to work or are they the unskilled workers who can’t find a job in Maine? If you want skilled workers you are going to have to train them and you can’t depend on the school system to do it.  By the time the school system gets the programs up and running the skills they are going to teach will be obsolete.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PV4CYCJTMR72D2GJP7KHVMCURU charles

    When Lepuke was in Rockland one of the companies was Fisher Eng. and most people around here know how they are to work for either they or someone they know works or worked there had nothing really good to say about them.

  • newportres

    Communist Drivel!

  • Anonymous

    “If local communities can’t have regulations any more strict than the state, why even have regulations on the local level??” 

    Jawohl, you are beginning to see zee master plan.
    Less big government is just my big government and no others, God bless me and no one else.  
    So now you must zign zee the papers, and drink zee tea, get in line and march straight,  or you vill be reported as one of them, and a danger to zee tea party  

    What I really wanted to know is why local leaders can’t say to Gov. LePage him what he said to Pres. Obama ? 

    It is nothing but a pre-emptive threat against some local leaders,
     to named at a later date,  who dare to do what is right, instread of what they are told to do, …. like ban firework sales and use in Bangor.

  • Anonymous

    “These businessmen are to scared to talk in public.” 

    Just like the mobsters, we must assume,  
    that want a casino in Oxford, to launder money, again being only logical  to think, given their behavior ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PV4CYCJTMR72D2GJP7KHVMCURU charles

    We the people of Maine have to remember that first and formost LePage is a business man and talks out of his backside. He was only believed by 38% of the voters. He always forgets about what was said in his last speech. Now its U.I. that is causing the problem before it was lack of skilled workers. Next month it’ll be something different. The gov will load the place with baised people for that one too, this way we only hear oneside of the story. Needs to keep the 38% believing the lies.

  • Anonymous

    Just like how someone said that mural was too pro-labor and anti-business ? 

  • Never Applicable

    Great idea for the citizens and workers, but businesses don’t hire employees because the costs exceed what they would pay a staffing agency.   Used to be temporary employment companies provided mostly administrative workers to businesses that needed someone to fill in for a short term job or where there was a need to cover someone on vacation.  Now staffing agencies provide a lot more staffing, that used to be jobs that were for full time regular workers.  Its cheaper for many businesses to get their workers that way.  No real commitment to the workers. No longer the sacred contract of committment between employers and employees.
     

  • Never Applicable

    One as to question how cutting unemployment benefits creates jobs. 

  • Never Applicable

    It’s a misnomer to think you the employee pays into the unemployment fund.  Employers pay not employees.

  • Anonymous

    A substantial majority of voters voted for Obama, so not exactly.

  • Anonymous

    I just noticed something.  Check out the picture of the governor.  I think he is wearing shirts where  the collar and tie they are too tight.  This could cut of some of the blood flow to the brain.

  • Never Applicable

    There is no deduction from your paycheck to pay into unemployment.  Employers pay a percentage (albeit small) of their entire payroll into the fund.  Not employees.  Employers with a high turnover of employees who make and are qualified to receive benefits pay more than those who don’t.

  • Anonymous

    Sure, but that’s how it starts…You slowly give up your Liberty and Freedom in place of socialist or fascist policy and before you know it, you are China or…actually China is going through an identity crisis right now and doesn’t whether it is socialist or fascist, but either way…if local governments don’t have the right to enforce higher standards than State and Federal policy…then how are we ever going to lead by example…or have the freedom to prove that not everything that comes out of State and Federal Government is best for the people of some of our small communities…some business practices are best left to bigger communities…or really just not at all…

  • Anonymous

    what?

  • Anonymous

    What about my fools?

  • Anonymous

    huh?

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps then you have made it to a root issue and that is where the change needs to begin. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! :D

  • Anonymous

    You have to have and hold a job for a while to qualify for unemployment.  You also have to lose your job due to no fault of your own (i.e.: got laid off or let go due to lack of business, etc.).  Food stamps are essential if you are trying to live on the meager unemployment which is $366 per month and under $60 per additional dependent.  As for MaineCare, if you are a childless adult, you do not qualify, even if you are on unemployment.

    You should pick on someone who can and will defend themselves instead of the poor.  Let me guess, you think Ayn Rand would make a great governor, too. 

    Your posts personify the ugliest side of human nature.  Your ideology is cancerous to civilization and human progress.

  • Anonymous

    While I agree with you in principle, the rules of the game have changed.  For so many, gone are the days of making a livable wage through hard work.  Most of the jobs that paid a good wage are now overseas or outsourced to eliminate costs for the corp.  If the individual has a responsibility to not take from society, then shouldn’t corporations share in that responsibility as well?

  • Anonymous

    so what hes saying is he wants to make it easier for big business…and harder for the unemployed…WOW!  

  • Anonymous

    All you commies run for cover!

  • Anonymous

    don’t forget the one’s here are working cash jobs on the side…. tax free some making another 400 @ week in cash…end of year gets a  refund

  • Anonymous

    Sounds scary, he is sounding more like Adolph Hitler. 

  • Anonymous

    sound typical of what out there for work force… sound like fisher’s job are too much like work for most.. the long term people ther are true workers

  • Anonymous

    I started posting about ALEC influence in Maine before LD1 was inked.  This organization is a symptom of how the corporations have gamed the system, and taken America from us.  Democracy itself is jeopardized by dark organizations having so much control in the state legislatures.  ALEC is a creation of David and Charles Koch.  in our nations history, there has never been as obvious an attack on democracy as that being waged by these men who are not content with the $25 billion they have apiece.  They want to end public education, eliminate all environmental regulation and increase taxes on the poor.  They pay Virginia Thomas (Clarence’s wife) to influence the supreme court, they have launched Herman Cain as a presidential candidate, they also try to influence local and state elections everywhere.

    ALEC and its founders are waging war on America in profound ways we have never seen the likes of before. 

    And yes, ALEC penned much of the legislation for us here in Maine.  I guess they know what we need better than we do, since they are in Washington DC.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NQQ57LHQR4BYFHB3S6GP6JOE6U mainegurl

    getting  some jobs in maine is a start,i seen an add that some company wanted a DISHWASHING job filled but the person filling the job had to have 2 years of collage (i was like HUH??? come again) some of these jobs will not hire a person if they don’t dress right,do the interview quiz correct like when they ask u where do u see yourself in 5 years from now ect…. or a supervisor that works for rccc at the chinchette building (zach)that gets people fired cuz he does not like them i seen it happend to 4 people that worked there cuz he’s family of river city commercial cleaning and the supevisor for the cleaning crew at chinchette if he does not like you or can’t take advantage of your kindness he’ll have u fired. norm’s cleaning if u refuse to work in unsafe conditions ur done and labree’s bakery has roaches (good food to eat huh?)

  • Anonymous

    your all bull

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    There is no deduction from your paycheck to pay into unemployment.

    Horsehockey.  It may not be itemized, but it’s in there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Although this doesn’t have much to do with the gist of this story, the recent news story about the increase in “average real after-tax household income” over the last 28 years does give an idea of where we are headed.  According to the Congressional Budget Office, the top 1% gained 275% in household income during that period of time.  The next 19% gained 65%.  The middle 60% gained 40%, and the lowest 20% gained 18%.  And when President Obama calls for an increase in taxes for wealthier Americans, the cry goes up, “Class warfare!”  Class warfare exists alright, and it’s pretty clear who’s winning.

    There’s nothing surer – The rich get rich and the poor get laid off – In the meantime, in between time – Ain’t we got fun? – From the song Ain’t We Got Fun?

  • Anonymous

    Ok, how many employee hours do you pay annually, and what regulations cost $2/hour to follow?

  • Anonymous

    I believe that many of Fisher Engineering’s jobs are seasonal….are they not?

  • Anonymous

    there is no work ethic period….. as you said were the incentive. workers are mtivated by greed as som many here say it is businesses… but the worker wants a sham job that pays ridiculaous wages….  so jus tsuck off of the gov teet, obama will extend your benefits. i hope you all starve from laziness

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WRRG7DP6GIG7DXIMZQSF33PL7U Rebecca Hack

    Tougher well what about those who collect unemployment benefits and go to college full time. I didn’t get much I recieve 139.00 weekly that didnt even cover housing. I later took a surposed to be regular part time job turned out to be temp. lost my benefits for unemploment.For my time working there I did quit my job because it cost me 70 bucks a week to get to my job and then 35 for transporting my client around this was every week. A total of 105.oo dollars for gas per week and I made 180.oo dollars per week. So in reality I made 75.oo dollars per week to live on. This wasn’t right I can’t refuse work because I would lose my unemployment and I didn’t even have to find a job because I was a full time student but yet I am being turned down because I can’t continue to work someplace that costs more then I made. I was never reimburst for two weeks of milage either. So now instaed of finishing my education of which I have a 3.8 in and take care of somebody with a brain injury I have to work and for go all of it costing you in the long run more money because now I recieve food stamps and will be recieving care for my husband and I only work part time. So good luck with that. Again I didnt have to find a job but I did I could and should of lied to the unemployment office and said nop didn’t turn down a job. Do to your lies people will start to lie to servive. Guess what you the state will have to pay for somebody to come to my home and care for my husband while I work and go to college. You have screwed your self on this one I have a year left but then with all this help I will continue to go for neuroscience. Pryor to this I would have just recieved 139.00 dollars per week  and paid my bills now your looking at care of an adult and thats costly for you..

  • Anonymous

    the only people pissed at the article are those collecting ui

  • Anonymous

    it forces them to work … you know WORK ..something most avoid

  • Anonymous

    those jobs you mention…..it sounds like works, break a sweat, fell good at the end of the day work… naw thats not for ben

  • Anonymous

    you don not pay into ui…. another of the workers that think the employee pays everything..

  • Anonymous

    Marybelle…great letter

  • Anonymous

    as amtter of fat our rates went up last jan to poay in another 54 million to keep the beadbeats check afloat… in other words business are provide worker welfare… wonder why we slow dow hiring we are paying wages to unemployed people who don’t even work for us.

  • Anonymous

    there is no unemployment taken from your check….

  • Anonymous

      Wow..this story is ridiculous! We have people losing their jobs left and right and Lepage thinks that by reducing their unemployment benefits, they would be more likely to find a job?!? That is completely insane, and goes to show the simple fact that Lepage only has concern for big business(those probably stuffing wads of cash in his pocket), and no concern for the everyday working people of Maine.  Maine unemployment is one of the lowest in the country!  I guess he would rather have the unemployed living in homeless shelters and unable to pay for gas to go look for a job, than actually do something to help them.
      Quebec Power is also one of the most expensive electricity providers in Canada.  Half of my family live in Quebec and continuously complain about the extreme cost of their utilities through Quebec Power, so I don’t think they should be the ones we turn to for advise on energy in this state.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WRRG7DP6GIG7DXIMZQSF33PL7U Rebecca Hack

    The state of Maine also has I hiring freeze but yet they are hiring …. Waste of time.

  • Anonymous

    unemployement SHOULD be taken from the employee ..they are the one who use it 

  • Anonymous

    Facts ? 
    How unfair, Pat. 

    So if you were a CEO or  a Govenah, instead of JUST the head of  a family, 
    and did not  do what resulted in the best bottom line at the end of the year,
     it would be criminal, right ?  

    So… which is the wiser thing to do, finish yarding up the up the firewood before the snow flies , or start working at a big box until just after Xmas , but then having  to pay for heating oil and commuting  an hour each way to a  job that pays  WHAT ?  

    It comes down to who you own you loyalty to.
     WHO DO YOU REALLY WORK FOR,  your own family business, or the boss that laid  you off and/or THE STATE …. that is increasing your old boss’ new business partner ?   

    Besides making a mess of your political plans, what good are jobs that pay so little,
     that people are harming their family by taking them, Govenah ? 

  • Anonymous

    i’v never hired anyone in 65 yrs who knew everything about what we do or any other business friends of mine business . employees are a constant training  issue. the biggest over head and headach of any business…..employees do not understand this..

  • Anonymous

    Quite a liberal hornet’s nest we got going here. Yesiree, indeed.

  • Anonymous

    the employee should be paying  unemployement into his own fund.

  • http://twitter.com/careid69 Charles A. Reid

    Some great Leading Progressive said  “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” .  Money is made by the government to be used for the social good.  You give money to the poor and they buy the things made by business, Business buys thing and employs people and they get paid,  They give some to the government to pay for things and they buy things and … well you can see it’s a fricken circle.   But if 1 percent keeps it all well … Capitalism will collapse.   some great Sociologist figured that out 100 years ago , and you still haven’t heard the warning.

  • http://twitter.com/careid69 Charles A. Reid

    well you know… open and honest government,, that’s what the GOP runs on.

  • Anonymous

    you mean try and fix the ills from tha past bald face liar we had as agovernor

  • Anonymous

    Not all jobs suit modern Americans who want to work an easy 8hr day, at a desk, making at least $40k, with benefits etc. The nature of these jobs are that they are dirty, seasonal, low-skilled, and tough work. Small business owners like this also face myriad regulations, taxes, market forces, market manipulations and fluctuations, etc. Low profit margins and constant variations in expenses and and unpredictable sales make it impossible for industries like this to provide what you want. We can’t all work at white-collar cushy desk jobs.

  • Anonymous

    There policies are in response to labor regulations that discourage these companies from hiring full-time employees. It is easier and cheaper to operate this way…to the point it probably prevents them from going under. Thank big labor and liberal sensibilities for regulationing companies they don’t udnerstand to the dertriment of workers.

  • Anonymous

    when you grow up into a frog you’ll understand how business works till then keep living off your eggsac

  • Anonymous

    you sound like the taliban

  • Anonymous

    “ Its cheaper for many businesses to get their workers that way” 

    So not why use the power of the State to change that convoluted situation, like with  everything else you want to do make business more streamlined , Govenah ?

  • Anonymous

    No it forces them to find a job that doesn’t make them any money and to try and keep government benefits. 

  • Anonymous

    knowbody owes anyone anything ..you put in a days work you get a days pays…thats the problem  with all the…. you owe me this attitudes… put youself in the business hsoes and see if everyone pulls their share in the workplace. i should say people work 50 hours a week for 40 cause you owe me that. the employes should owe  the business for hiring many of the lazys

  • Anonymous

    let the employees pay their own unemployment insurance…..what a simple idea

  • Anonymous

    Because if they got laid off from a job at 30,000 a year, finding a minimum wage job isn’t going to even come close to covering there cost, even if they were living below there means. Its only good for society if these people find equal work for there cost, if they take a job that does not equal there cost they are just going to go under. Then society is going to have to foot the bill for that. 

  • Anonymous

    People are being victims, they are trying to make ends meet. Being on Unemployment doesn’t make them leeches, My father was on unemployment for 2 and half months before he found work in Connecticut. He travel up and down the state using unemployment to cover travel cost and room and board were he stayed. He would not have bee able to do that if he accepted a minimum wage job some where. 

  • Anonymous

    we hire experience before schooling or degrees

  • Anonymous

    your hatred toward the governor, a better person than you will get you nowhere

  • Anonymous

    aging workers….. they are the best with a work ethic get the job done. anything between 18 & 40 is pretty useless….lets hear the comments

  • Anonymous

    Here comes the commie, here comes the commie, here comes the commie. Keep it up LePage, you just continue to show who are your special interest groups. Its a good thing not all bussiness think the same as you. Your a loser.

  • Anonymous

    well said

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amanda-Reynolds-Gregg/5823530 Amanda Reynolds-Gregg

    I am so ashamed of our governor.  That is…all I really have to say after reading this. He obviously has no understanding of what the common Mainer is going through right now nor does he seem to understand that most people on unemployment are not doing so for the sake of not wanting to work.
    Also, great little snide comment on the end about people’s education. “They can write an essay on it, but they can’t weld.” Because, obviously, no one in Maine ever made money from writing *cough* Stephen King *cough*.

  • Anonymous

    And this is one of LePages friends, special interest, I wonder why?

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    It’s not the prospective employees who are crying to the government about not having skills for a specific job.  If people don’t have the skills a business wants then they need to man the heck up and just train them.  It’s not rocket science.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    Listen…jobs that provide excellent pay and benefits ALWAYS provide incentive for people to go out and invest in training and education for those fields.  If you are having such a difficult time finding someone who can do the job you are trying to fill that tells me that you don’t pay enough or offer enough benefits to make anyone WANT to work for you.  No one is going to go out and spend money for special training for low wages and no benefits.

  • Anonymous

    Have never met a person including myself who does not enjoy or would not take free money for liitle or no work…. lottery, publishers clearing house, wheel of fortune.. geico savings… you know……. unemployment benefits… welfare etc

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Lepage does it again. What a dope.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    False.

  • Anonymous

    Gov LePage is right on the matter of having Maine’s communities adhering to the same policies in the matter of unemployment benefits. But his statement that benefits should be cut (implying that it will force people to grovel for any job available) shows LePage is more concerned about the viability of businesses than the lives of working people. Maybe there are valid reasons why these potential employees aren’t snapping up the job openings.

  • Anonymous

    Bravo! Well said.

  • Anonymous

    Thats ok…people get laid off.. hope you get to work soon

  • Anonymous

    Yes, unemployment is “hilariously, too generous”. 80%  of regular pay is enough for anyone to not want to return to work, or, in some cases, as I’ve observed, not to want to report income from other sources or work. I know about one lady who reported rather belatedly an on-the-job accident 3 months after the alleged incident. When she made her compensation claim she decided to withdraw her application to retire. Fifteen years into retirement this lady is as capable as an ox while still collecting 80% of her last paycheck (adjusted for inflation) on workman’s comp. I know first hand at least two other people who undoubtedly are milking the system like she is, not to mention  others who are rumored doing so. I have no reason to doubt there are many more abusers out there doing the same.

  • Anonymous

    Thats ok… people get laid off… hope you get to work soon.!!!!! if your hard up you can cancel your internet if a choice has to be made between freezing or eating

  • Anonymous

    sorry.  i thought you were being a wise guy.

    my bad.

  • Anonymous

    I believe the governor’s assessment about unemployment insurance being too generous reflects reality. 80%  of
    regular pay is enough for anyone to not want to return to work, or, in
    some cases, as I’ve observed, not to want to report income from other
    sources or work. I know about one lady who reported rather belatedly an
    on-the-job accident 3 months after the alleged incident. When she made
    her compensation claim she decided to withdraw her application to
    retire. Fifteen years into retirement this lady is as capable as an ox
    while still collecting 80% of her last paycheck (adjusted for inflation)
    on workman’s comp. I know first hand at least two other people who
    undoubtedly are milking the system like she is, not to mention  others
    who are rumored doing so. I have no reason to doubt there are many more
    abusers out there doing the same.
    Yes,
    unemployment is “hilariously, too generous”. 80%  of regular pay is
    enough for anyone to not want to return to work, or, in some cases, as
    I’ve observed, not to want to report income from other sources or work. I
    know about one lady who reported rather belatedly an on-the-job
    accident 3 months after the alleged incident. When she made her
    compensation claim she decided to withdraw her application to retire.
    Fifteen years into retirement this lady is as capable as an ox while
    still collecting 80% of her last paycheck (adjusted for inflation) on
    workman’s comp. I know first hand at least two other people who
    undoubtedly are milking the system like she is, not to mention  others
    who are rumored doing so. I have no reason to doubt they’re are many
    more out there doing the same. Save edit

  • Anonymous

    The only thing that the Nazis hated more than Jews was Commies, you do realize, don’t you ? 

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you about tech schools.   

    But there is nothing wrong with humanities. They help us keep things in perspective.  Paraphrasing Steve Jobs, ‘When you combine tech skills with the arts you have the ability to change the world”

    to your last question, what is Maine not good enough? 

    please, please I hope you were not suggesting that.  Some of the most accomplished people I know are from Maine.  

  • Anonymous

    you start off saying no one owes anyone anything and then you go on to say that employees should give you 10 hrs extra a week for free cuz they owe you for hiring them.

    THIS IS WHY WE HAVE UNIONS.  BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

  • Anonymous

    the unemployment rate is based upon the employers record. that is so employers will have something to think about before firing someone because they don’t like they way his hair is parted.

  • Anonymous

    lmao.  people didn’t get banished from the comment section for their views, rather for the way in which they chose to express it. 

    secondly, there is no guarantee of free speech on a comment string.  if you, i or anyone else wants to speak freely, let us start our own comment section, on our own website.

    the BDN certainly has the right to censor it’s own website.

    Sounds like your friends need to read the constitution.  They might save themselves a few thousand dollars of litigation.

  • Anonymous

    there is no ‘legal’ limit.  Just whatever the owners of the website choose.  which, btw, is stated clearly int he TOS above.

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    You are absolutely incorrect. You never have overheard the “big boss” there talking about how the workers are not worth a damn and are easily replaceable. I have. Fisher is a joke in the area. When I was there we used to have a running joke about not bothering to learn the names of the new hires until they’d been there 6 months. With the turnover, it would clutter up our brains too much if we tried to remember them beforehand. :-)

    My termination was probably the best thing that happened to me. I ended up at a company that places a lot more value on their employees. I might get laid off, but it’s temporary, and we receive SUB to 32% of our pay. The company doesn’t want to lose the workers they’ve trained.

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    I think you’re confused. Unemployment compensation is NOT 80% of your pay. Workmen’s Compensation MAY be 80%, but the maximum benefit you can get in Maine is $366, if you’re earning top wages.

    From the Maine gov website:
    ( http://www.maine.gov/labor/unemployment/faqs.html )

    The dollar amount you are qualified to receive each week is called your weekly benefit amount. It is based on your earnings during a set period prior to losing your job. The figure is calculated by dividing the average of your wages in the 2 highest quarters of your base period by 22. The maximum weekly benefit you can receive is $366.00 (plus $10 per dependent per week up to one half the weekly benefit amount).

    Please don’t spout off without checking facts. Most people get far less than the maximum benefit. And don’t forget, thanks to Ronald Reagan, that money is taxed by the US govt. and the state. So the amount coming in is even less.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-White/1508030373 Christopher White

    You are presuming facts not in evidence and in doing so you malign the folks at the bottom of the heap. Why?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-White/1508030373 Christopher White

    As I understand the logic, regularly spouted by pundits from the right, if there is a regulation which causes added costs, or certain fees and taxes that must be paid, then those are folded into the price of the good or service being produced by the company and thus are paid by the customers and amount to a form of taxation. In the case of unemployment insurance, the company pays a fee based on their total payroll. Presumably, this is a cost ultimately borne by customers in the way of higher prices. Or it can be viewed as part of the total benefits package offered to employees, in which case it might be said to be a fee paid by the employees, even if it does not appear as an itemized deduction.

    None of which addresses the issue of whether employees fired or laid off by companies seeking to trim expenses are fully entitled to the unemployment benefits they were told, by their employer and the state, they would get if they were let go.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-White/1508030373 Christopher White

    Hope you pay someone at work to edit and proofread any documents you send out. It sounds like you think your employees owe you beyond that ‘day’s pay for a day’s work’ simply because you’ve hired them and the economy at large is in rough shape. Do you ask for those extra ten hours of work a week … without pay … that you seem to imply you’re “owed” by your workers?

  • Anonymous

    you are a very confused person. I doubt you could run any business with your concept that everything is passed onto the price to customers or taken from employees. 1. if all the cost of doing business were to be passed onto the customer. many businesses would be closed due to being to expensive. 2. to say it is part of a benefits pkg is insane. many of the cost are the direct reason wages are not as high as they would be. you can’t dish out more than you take in like the fed gov. Why do you think it is the employer that should pay for unemployemnt insurance when it should be the employee since they receive the compensation. UI is a unseen benefit! And  a big benefit only if they are laid off. Funny you want a 401k…employee has to pay in… So whats the dif…The burden is always thrown onto the business. Your elected officials think all the businesses somehow have these deep pockets because “they own a business”…. but work for 24/7,  Your a big person who likes to talk .Try owning or strating a business and run it from 8-5 m-f and leave everything at the business when you shut the lights friday eveneing.. you will fail in 1 week after opening.

  • Anonymous

    Its people like you that make me happy myself & others don’t have to work for ’esclauves’ like yourself . Some people lead some follow…..you best keep following

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-White/1508030373 Christopher White

    You really should take a look around the world to find those nations that have the smallest Federal governments, least regulations, lowest taxes, and all the rest of the Tea Party/Libertarian right ideals to see how it works out in practice as opposed to as a utopian fantasy. Somalia is a contender for being closest to what you’re asking for … and Afghanistan (at least before the arrival of US troops). Think about it.

  • Anonymous

    Please tell me we’re not going to go  and outfit all of our vocational schools with the lastest and greatest harvesting equipment so they can hire a few people. They came up 6 short? They paid $400,000 to train 14 people? What is wrong with this picture? They just want to dump their overhead right back on the state. Notice he used the word contractors not employees? What does that mean?

  • Anonymous

    i don’t wast tym…. if u cn’t rd & fgr it owt go bak 2 skool. U think the emplyr ows somthing more than the wrk the emplye has gvn. u sond jst lik a wlfr rcipnt. Do you paymorthanthe stickerpriceforanitembecausethestorethinksyouwoethemmorforbeingacustomer? Doyougivethetownorcitya$1000extrataxmoneybecauseyoufeelyouragoodcitizen

  • Anonymous

    astheysayabout peopl0withthoughtslikeyourself..theyliveamongstusandtheyvote.nolittlewonderthiscountryhasproblems.

  • Anonymous

    everyone here makes over 14 up to 33 per hr.  1 guys make more than me some yrs. allwork 5 days a week some 4 get paid for 5.. every holiday is off include bigblack day. christmas party/lobster/ summer bbq king crab bonuses .nobodey ever had to ask for a riase, automatic if we were profitable and some years still got raises when lost money. we are known as the place everyone wants to work for. And iamtheowner of a 65 yr old maine business.. we are unique.nevrtooktyp use spellcheckfor business not waste it on this site a little dislexic??I have seen them all…many of youjustby the way you talk…know everything done everything make it look like you’ve been working for 40 yrs and are only 21 yrs old…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-White/1508030373 Christopher White

    Gov. LePage has been making it increasingly clear that he stands, proud and strong, for the interests of transnational corporations over all others, especially average citizens and workers. When he says, “I’m a big believer in trying to get the state regulations no stricter than federal, and we’re trying to encourage the local communities to work with us to make their rules no stricter [than either],” then threatening state sanctions if they don’t … and given some of his past statements regarding the Federal Government and regulation in general … he’s pointing the direction he wants to see Maine, and the US, go. That direction, strangely enough, seems to be very Far East of here, namely China.

    Now THERE is a system to emulate! Exceedingly low regulation of businesses; no sissy (or “nanny”) stuff like unemployment compensation for workers who are laid off; if adding poisons to milk or lead to toys makes a bigger profit, well, let the buyer beware! That’s the sort of “capitalism” Gov. LePage is championing. Although it IS kind of odd that the new model for increasing global corporate profits should be the last big nation ostensibly still clinging to Communist rule. I guess, when you’re a CEO … or Governor … those labels don’t make much difference.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone with a proper upbringing was taught not to put all their eggs in one basket I have many trades and can adjust well to any situation. I have worked all shifts night and day and always did what my job required and tried to do it better than everybody else even if it was  a job I hated. Adapt and overcome works much better than whine and complain. As it is I work full tme 55 hrs a week and weekends for myself. Anyone can do it . Find a skill in high demand and learn the trade 

  • Anonymous

    I have been working full time since jr year in high school   raised a family saved money and never drawn unemployment.  adjust and overcome

  • Anonymous

    No homes are illegally foreclosed on . The Clinton era forced banks to give loans to people who could not prove themselves worthy of paying them back. When you take a loan you weigh things out and decide wether or not it is a wise decision. If things go south  yourself is the one to blame  live within your means

  • Anonymous

    I fire people because they were thick glasses and use screen names like onetrackmind

  • Anonymous

    People are lucky to find any jobs right now…..Where are they getting two? I work about a half hour away from where I live and our car broke down. I couldn’t work for two weeks. That whole time I applied all over town for jobs closer to home in case something happened to transportation again and I didn’t even get calls back! I have good references and a good work history to the point where I am probably over qualified….Just because you want to work doesn’t mean that work is out there waiting.

  • clamcove

    The guy makes sense.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe that’s where the system needs to change a little too then….I’d gladly pay part of my own unemployment insurance….Of course if I did I would expect that I would be able to be awarded unemployment if I find myself jobs less by no fault of my own.

  • Anonymous

    It should be shared by both employee and employer.

  • Anonymous

    You should watch the movie “A day without a Mexican.”

  • Anonymous

    Yep,
    Lemon Socialism.

  • Anonymous

    But I thought our governor was “People before Politics”? haha.
    More like Corporate Profit above all else…..the environment, workers rights, the disabled, education, social services, etc.

  • Anonymous

    lol 8)

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, no such thing as the robo-signing forclosures scandal,
    no such thing a preditory loans, chopped up risky mortgage derivatives sold as AAA,
    yeah,
    it’s all poor people’s fault.
    Nothing behind the curtain.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XW77PDL54NCHOC25QEKNFFYWPM Joe

    Open mouth, Paul, insert foot. We are all familiar with your routine.

    He can say what he wants while he can (he’ll only have one term), but the legislators in his own party don’t support him. They never did. Do you think they’re going to punish their own communities’ local governments and deny them the revenue we pay in taxes? They expect to get re-elected even if he won’t. 

  • Never Applicable

    Do you have a problem with your tax dollars going to ConAgra to not plant certain crops?  Corporations get a lot of entitlement money to NOT do things.  Why is it not wrong for corporations to get paid for doing nothing and yet post record profits? Exxon??

  • Never Applicable

    Really?  Where?   No actual evidence to support your argument, but you are convinced anyway. 

  • Anonymous

    fair enough…

  • Never Applicable

    Because some things are more efficient than every individual trying to learn themselves at home.  And if a state wants to attract business it has to provide a workforce attractive to the type of business the state wants to attract.  

  • Anonymous

    Yep,
    probably the only reason the unemployment rate went down is people dropping out of the labor force.

  • Never Applicable

    And you have every right to do that … but if you fire people for those reasons they are probably gonna get unemployment benefits…  if you don’t want to have your unemployment taxes increased then you need to follow the law and fire people for those reasons that fit within the law. 

    BTW – business owner and employer myself for over 20 years, I found that if I did not treat my employees like chattel, they gave me a good days work and were loyal and valuable to my business.  Just sayin’

  • Anonymous

    The only thing behind the curtain is the lack of common sense. If you choose to become a victim you will be one. Everyone is responsible for their own well being. Just because you get a handful of credit card opportunities in the mailbox doesnt mean you should go out and max them all out. If there is any doubt in your mind if you can pay a loan dont take it it is that simple. I am 45 yrs old and this year just purchased my first brand new truck, always drove used ones because I knew that was what I could afford. You can only be a victim of predatory loans if you decide to be one end of story!!

  • Never Applicable

    And large companies like Walmart and Mardens intentionally pay their workers low wages knowing that the worker will qualify for food stamps and MaineCare and then they don’t have to provide benefits and get cheap labor.  Large corporations have people who figure all this out and make a lot of business decisions based on these factors.  

  • Anonymous

    You employ “hundreds of people”? You really expect anyone to believe that?

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Anything that represents a cost to employ someone is  going to come out of that someone’s pay one way or another.  Employers will always adjust their pay scales according to the impact the cost of employing someone has on the company’s bottom line.  If you don’t think so, you’re exactly the sort of employee they like best.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Workman’s compensation unemployment insurance.

  • Anonymous

    You obviously don’t even own a business, let alone employ a single soul. Your rambling record of moronic boasting is catching up with you.

  • Never Applicable

    Can you specifically provide some examples of regulations that are obstacles?  I hear REgs, regs regs, but what regs are we talking about?  The regs that require a restaurant run a clean kitchen, the regs that say you can’t serve alcohol to anyone you like, meaning minors or obviously drunk people?  The regs that say you must pay for a business license?  

  • Never Applicable

    Well read and well informed.  Kudos.

  • Anonymous

    Your right, they know that the ball is in their court. My cousin worked part time for Walmart for 3 years and before he left his regular schedule was reduced to only  5 hours per week. Talk about a disapointing paycheck.

  • http://twitter.com/7Blake Rebecca Wentworth

    Lepage sounds like a patsy for big energy and poor product safety.  I like the idea of more money to vocational schools but can’t we get voc ed back in the classroom like home ec and shop skills taught right in elementary schools?

  • Never Applicable

     What you are now arguing is a different sort of presumption.  This is not evidence of the employee making a direct contribution to a fund for unemployment benefits as you originally asserted.  The argument you put forth could also be made for SS, FUTA, Federal and State payroll taxes, etc.    The unemployment taxes that the employer pays is quite small compared to say pretty much every other tax the employer has to cover, except, a big except, where that employer has a high employee turnover rate that negatively affects the employer’s rating.  A store like Marden’s though factors that into the cost of running the business and passes along those costs to the consumer.  A place like Joe’s Staffing Company, factors that cost into it’s cost of doing business and passes that cost along to its customers.  Are you suggesting that unemployment should be an entitlement benefit regardless of the reasons the person is unemployed.  I disagree, unemployment benefits, are meant to be remedial, to assist those who are without work for no fault of their own. 

    I see you could not actually have a reasoned argument without ending your assertion by taking a smart personal jab.  

    You sir wrongly assume I am as ignorant and ill informed and opinionated as you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXPTPFL746OV2VGR5WBOEUF6W4 Roger

     Then we have to close down every foods service place in Maine. Food service has the highest turn over there is. Retail is not far behind.

    No matter the simple rule is you want money you should WORK for it. You not entitled to anything you do not earn!!!

  • Anonymous

    I hope you will post to ALEC Watch in Maine and keep us updated on what you know and discover about this nefarious organization’s influence in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with everything you have said, but would like to quote you “Businesses need to see they are welcomed and communities want them and are willing to give in order to get.” as this I believe is the crux of the issue. Communities and workers get to choose the businesses they want to have as neighbors/employers. Belfast did not want Walmart even though Walmart spent a lot of money to persuade them. And, Walmart has ruined economies in the towns that have allowed them in. I think we need to be much more selective about who we invite into our state and who we support with our dollars. Communities will be willing to ‘give’ when they ‘get’ something they want.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I asserted no such thing.  I said, “It may not be itemized, but it’s in there.”  In much the same way that the cost of other people’s shoplifting isn’t itemized in the purchase price of retail goods, but it’s in there, too.

    Your last sentence is also inaccurate on two out of its three points.

  • Anonymous

    First of all, if the public were better informed, some of LePage’s ideas would be easier to stomach.  But keeping the press out doesn’t allow that to happen.  A little fact checking from the press and the public shouldn’t hurt the process any.  Second, why were nonprofits allowed in Bangor and not in Portland?  Just asking.  Finally, to “punish” communities that want to help Maine maintain their quality environmental standing is nonsense.  If they pay in, you LePage, should pay out.

  • Anonymous

    i don’t hire people that don’t know the difference between’where, were and wear’

    that’s elementary school english

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Last year, the company ran a training course, teaching 14 new operators at a cost of about $400,000, he said, which included equipment rental and other costs.

    So he wants State Tax Payers to Pay for his Training Cost and Lepage will oblige because after all he is for “Open For Buisness” !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Part time / NO Benefits / 13.00 pr hr for Skilled workers!

    http://www.jobsinme.com/seek/resultdetail.aspx?jobnum=611307

    Very efficient administration, they may even attach a broom to your behind so you can sweep the floor while you are traveling through and out the door because of the high turn over.

    http://www.jobsinme.com/seek/resultdetail.aspx?jobnum=611307

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    No matter the simple rule is you want money you should WORK for it. You not entitled to anything you do not earn!!!

    Tell that to some of these whealthy lay about buisness owners.

  • newportres

    You do realize they still had a lot in common don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    ban tmobile

    lol

  • Anonymous

    Obviously you areone of those people who think they know everything, and are wrong on everything. That is why you will never be sucessfull like me.

  • Anonymous

    the long term people are the true brain washed.

    they stay with the same company because they don’t see other choices.

  • Anonymous

    actually, those tend to be the same people who are the most oppressed.

    the Koch brothers can not believe their genius.

  • Anonymous

    COME ON!  What typical Limbaugh style crap!  You and bangornative are both saying that 90% of Americans just don’t want to work.  That we are lazy, unmotivated, ignorant, opportunists who all seek money for nothing.  That just isn’t right and you both know it.  If a company such as Lowes or Fisher, or RH Foster, or Mardens, or XYZ Corp have that kind of turnover rate there is a reason that has very little or nothing to do with the work.  It is because the corporation has figured out that it is cheaper to have a high turnover rate than it is to pay a living wage.  You just don’t get it!

  • Anonymous

    This is true.  Part time labor jobs are designed so that you do not meet the minimum requirements to collect unemployment.  Additionally, they are set up so that these companies can claim they offer benefits (Lowes, WalMart etc) but the vast majority of employee’s don’t qualify for these benefits and even if they did the wages they earn are not sufficient to pay for the benefits.

  • Anonymous

    why do you always attack the business? have you never seen a person that is not self motivated? a personwho on a daily basis having to repeat the same things over and over. aperson who every piece of machinery he use breaks down so he has to stop work.
    Why do yo think everyone is brainwashed, that’s ridiculous. Brainwashed into thinking this is there only job opportunity?.. if so they may need some help mentally.. There are many very very good workers very intelligent but do not want to run a busines they want to punch out at 5 and have a clear mind no responsibilites after that till next day at 8 am.   

  • Anonymous

    People on unemployment are not getting paid a “bit” too much. LePage is out of touch with reality. His daughter most definantly is being paid way too much. At least she can afford little things such as a car, gas, food, shelter. Not that she actually has those expensives.

    By what I read in the paper, and what comes out of his mouth, it seems that he forgot where he came from. Hard to believe that the homeless shelters have to reduce beds or they will lose any funding.

    With LePage in office it looks like the writing is on the wall and I don’t like what it says.

  • Anonymous

    let me explain it this way my best workers are btween 50 and 64… the younger generation not all but a vast majority are lazy. they want the op wages ove the owner and know nothing

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been told many times by outsiders and some of our employees wives even that we are the best employers in the area. Our accounting firm has told me some of our workers are overpaid. But that does not bother me. as i said i have one guy in sales that makes more than me.. 6 figures, i enjoy seeing people do wellmany of these poster get jealous of success Always gave more that we take. by the way i don’t fire people because of glasses or whatever.. we have no turnover here 2peopl in about the last 25 yrs is pretty good considering we employ 19. we have been in business since 1947

  • Anonymous

    Seems like LePage is working on “his numbers”.

  • Anonymous

    Then Maine needs to recall all their born and raised back to the state in order to collect their benefits right here. In addition to that we can’t have them taking jobs away from people who were born in those respective states.

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