Asian companies want Maine to lower energy costs, LePage says

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Gov. Paul LePage
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Gov. Paul LePage

PORTLAND, Maine — Gov. Paul LePage said Thursday that while Maine has been eyed by Asian companies as a potential factory site, the state’s high energy costs have proven a deterrent.

Particularly after the tsunami that hit Japan earlier this year, Japanese and South Korean automakers have been looking for other locations for plants to geographically diversify their holdings, LePage said to about 500 people gathered at the Portland Regional Chamber’s Eggs and Issues event.

“The consul general looked at me and said ‘We’d love to come to Maine; it’s a beautiful climate, it’s a beautiful state, but we can’t afford your energy,’” LePage said. “‘But when you drop your energy we’ll put plants here.’”

LePage used the Portland event to talk about some of the initiatives his administration worked on in the last year and to look forward to future goals — including lowering Maine’s energy costs. LePage said the state’s energy rates are 42 percent higher than the national average, the 12th highest in the nation, though lowest in New England.

“My administration cares about one thing — to find the most efficient and affordable energy for the people of the state of Maine so that we can heat our homes [and] provide energy needed in business places,” said LePage.

He talked about his plan to expand natural gas in Maine as a heating source. He noted that the Woodland pulp mill in Down East Maine is converting to natural gas and expects to drop energy costs by $10 million.

His administration is working with natural gas companies to see if they will expand pipelines in Maine. State government needs to find incentives to have people connect up to those pipelines, he said.

Natural gas is distributed both to companies and individual homeowners in some parts of the state. Unitel serves the Portland area, Lewiston and Auburn and Kittery. Bangor Gas serves parts of Bangor, Brewer, Orono, Old Town and Veazie. Maine Natural Gas serves parts of Windham, Gorham, Bowdoin, Topsham and Brunswick.

He said he plans in January to introduce a “very controversial” bill to eliminate income taxes on retirees’ pensions. Maine Revenue Services estimates that the move would cost $93 million and reduce taxes for 75,000 people.

He said a streamlining tax force and the use of zero-based budgeting should be able to find about $100 million in state government cuts.

“I do not believe that we have the right as a government to take all of your money — we have the legal authority to take enough money to run government efficiently,” said LePage.

Those cuts, he said, would follow the $400 million in tax reduction from a package passed in the last session, he said.

“I took $400 million and put it in the hands of the people that can do best with it,” LePage said, “the private sector.”

He said the economy was stalled because of national and global problems. Fixing things at the local level entails cutting government spending and reducing taxes on business, he said.

“What we need to do is lower spending of the public sector and try to move as many resources to the private sector so the private sector can be profitable and prosperous,” said LePage.

He also talked about the need to improve the educational system in Maine, in particular, to provide educated workers with the skills companies need. One of the problems, he said, is that too many students are aimed at college, when some should instead be pointed toward vocational studies.

“We’ve narrowed the curriculum, thinking every child could go to college,” he said. “We need to put back vocational and technical education for our kids.”

Asked by an audience member how the education system in Maine could be improved while state revenues are reduced, he said, “It’s all about efficiency, finding out what works and getting rid of what doesn’t work.”

LePage pointed to a briefing he just received on $7 million in federal money given to the state to grow jobs through work force skills development. Less than $1 million went to actual training, he said, with the rest going to salaries and overhead for administration of the grant.

“That is almost criminal,” he said.

LePage Press Secretary Adrienne Bennett said later in the day that the governor was referring to federal money sent to the state’s four Local Workforce Investment Boards through the U.S. Workforce Investment Act.

In 2010, she said, $5.6 million went to support staffing, overhead and administration at the four boards, while $840,000 went to training. In 2009, she said, $5.3 million was spent on overhead, staffing and administration, and $1.2 million was spent on training.

“[LePage] was given these statistics, they raised a red flag,” Bennett said. “To the governor that’s not acceptable.”

Bennett said her boss met with Workforce Investment Board members Thursday to learn more.

“He’s discovered things can be improved,” said Bennett. “Next session we’re looking to make the process much more efficient and really put that money where it’s needed the most.”

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    We dont need to sell Maine out to the Asian Countries!

    We don’t need them in America, we are a Sovereign Nation!

    This Global Corporate Control of Politicians and Country has got to Stop!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    Auto factories in Maine?

    What a joke…they’d be boarded up after 10 years due to the UAW, worker’s comp claims, and employee drug abuse.

  • Anonymous

    Japan and South Korea are ouronly real  allies from Aisa. They don’t have land or space to build factories. Why not here? The majority of the workers would be americans and even if their management came from there they would have to spend their money living here. I would accept a country like S. Korea or Japan building a factory here anyday over China or North Korea. All of our cheap labor jobs are in China! Just look at where most of the coffee cups and knick knacks are made.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, Asian auto plants are not unionized.

  • Anonymous

    The way this story is written makes it sound like Asian auto manufacturers were considering building factories in the US. I know the article says they didn’t locate in Maine because of high energy cost. Where did they locate? I haven’t read about any Asian auto manufacturer announcing a move to the US since the  tsunami?  I wonder where they ended up going? Or I wonder if this might be another……………….no it couldn’t ……….could it? 

  • Anonymous

    if you hadn’t noticed we send most of our money there, this would bring some back.

  • PabMainer

    I also would love to have lower energy costs…..

  • Anonymous

    WHO DOES NOT WISH FOR LOWER ENERGY COSTS ? 

  • hasacluemaine

    Lowerting energy costs as an incentive to bring business to Maine is critical. This will not be done through tax and rate payer subsidies of wind energy. The Governor is on the right track with natural gas. We can grow the tax base if we pay attention to our number one economic engine, tourism. We need to spend far more money on marketing whose reach extends beyond the Northeast. It is ludicrous to watch the Weather Channel and see commercials touting a visit to South Dakota, but never Maine. It takes money to make money and grow the saels tax pie. Basic business 101.

  • Anonymous

    Honda and Toyota plants in the U.S are not UAW, and workers there make about $35 an hour with benefits. I’d love to see some of these jobs here in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s protect those jobs that don’t exist.

  • Anonymous

    We used to have a number of hydro plants that the upper mucky mucks wanted to get rid of.  Wonder now if they wonder if that was a mistake?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you’re on to something.

  • Anonymous

    If you want to lower electric costs, get rid of wind turbine blowtoys!

  • Anonymous

    Occupy the Blaine house and the Capitol building! 

  • Anonymous

    Wait a minute.  Last week LePage tells us we don’t have enough skilled workers in Maine to even fill present vacancies.  And now he wants us to believe that Asian auto companies will be pounding on our door to open plants here and employ Mainers if we just lower our energy costs?

    My guess is the “consul general” was slinging bull.  You would think that LePage would be a little more adept at detecting it.

  • Anonymous

    ????

  • Anonymous

    Current wind generators in Maine produce electricity at 17% to 22%  operation efficiency. (FERC data) 
    It’s simple enough already, wind is expensive to produce, will significantly increase the cost of electricity, increasing the costs of producing goods and services everyone uses.

  • Anonymous

    you no good cost high! no burn oil long time good!

  • Anonymous

    what a joke, indeed.  you want to trace the roots of detroit’s decline?  management.  or lack thereof.

  • 525_44

    As long as it means a lower power bill for everyone.

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice to have a US auto manufacturer located in Maine, but because of a do-nothing federal delegation, over regulated state and high energy costs it’s just not going to happen.

    While I applauded our governor for his efforts to get the mills back and running in the Katahdin region, the typical hurtles, plus the greenies would kill any new form of manufacturing. If Governor LePage is successful in bringing new manufacturing to Maine, then he will have done something that the liberals have tried to keep out of Maine for decades.

    .

  • Anonymous

    expensive because the fuel source is… expensive??  China is converting to wind faster than any other nation.  Hmmmmm…. interesting.

    The efficiency is capacity factor.  Hard to measure efficiency with wind.  That would mean that you have to measure the output compared to the fuel source.  Without BTU’s as a baseline, it is near impossible to measure the efficiency of kinetic energy.  

  • Anonymous

    There will never by any auto factories in Maine. Maine is at the end of the interstate and is too far away from part suppliers that rely on rail and Highways to move their products.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=5823658 Jared Sawyer

    or build more =p

  • Anonymous

    I actually saw a really great piece about a town in Georgia that had basically turned into a ghosttown because of a closed mill.  The State of Georgia courted an Asian car company (Hyundai, maybe?) to open a plant there.  In exchange, the State opened a training center on-site to train the people that got hired.  It was kind of a win-win situation with people getting work, the company saving on training costs and the town is booming again.  (This wasn’t since the tsunami but I’m making the point that Asian companies do what to manufacture in the States)

  • http://twitter.com/bdnbiz Matt Wickenheiser

    The way the governor framed it, this is a relatively recent occurrence; the tsunami only happened earlier this year, it’s doubtful any Asian companies did more than initial surveys, let alone making an announcement.

  • Anonymous

    If they build it, it will come. That’s how things end up developing, when the money dictates it.

  • Anonymous

    The electrical companies do not want lowers costs for customers. They want lower cost for the juice… Buy low sell high… We are a small state as consumers yets have as much infrastructure of poer line to take care of….  any business wants to grow sales & profits, Any business wants to make the same profits and higher than last year. thats the motivation factor. SO now we have companies turning to alternate power like natural gas.. Who do you think, is rates will rise to compensate for the millions woodland will not be paying out…… AxB=C

  • Anonymous

    Of course foreign auto manufacturers have opened plants here in the US. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    You dont get it!

    We send the money and they use it to  buy up our politicians and the country .

  • Anonymous

    Wasn’t it Lemforder (sp?) in Brewer that made car parts?

  • Anonymous

    That”s not true, they build them here for the good politics.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    LePage didn’t give more details on exactly what program he was talking about, or when the money came to Maine. His press secretary did not return a call for further information before press time.

    Or I wonder if this might be another……………….no it couldn’t ……….could it?

    Yup! It Most Certainly Could!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PV4CYCJTMR72D2GJP7KHVMCURU charles

    His story will change to fit the people he is presenting the idea too. Yes fisher engineering has problems with empolyees but then any company in a small community would after so many have worked there and put the company down as lousy to work at.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Win Win!

    Is that where the Company wins Twice?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Japan says our energy costs are to high.

    I say Japans Radioactivity is to high.

  • Anonymous

    I want energy costs to drop as well…but I bet they won’t for the average slob…Never have. Never will.

  • Anonymous

    Mainers want energy cost to go down more than asian

  • Anonymous

    Drill! Drill! Drill! Natural gas! Natural gas!
    Gov, they will hate you…you want to build
    the private sector. Darn it, if that happens then
    what excuse will there be for staying on welfare?

  • Anonymous

    Let’s rebuild Maine Yankee, The infrastructure is already here.  Nukes are the way for cheap power.  Look at France, almost all their power is generated by nuclear. 
    It would create many good paying jobs to build again.

  • Anonymous

    You will not get an auto maker in Maine. The logistics do not work. They use a tchnique where all the raw materials and sub assemblies are delivered as needed for auto assembly, the old term was called JIT. But any Kaizen guy worth his value stream map will tell you that there is a lot of muda by building a factory in Maine and then having to wait for deliveries from Ohio, Kentucky and Michigan.   

  • Anonymous

    Several Foriegn Auto Manufacturing Companies have plants in the U.S.  Kia, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, BMW  to name a few.  The fact that LePage is trying to bring major manufacturing companies to Maine is a huge change compared to what we have seen from Governors such as Brennan, King, Baldacci , Curtis.   All of which wanted to raise taxes, increase the welfare rolls and brought in an anti-business attitude that has put Maine where it is today in economic standing in this country.

  • Anonymous

    You should know us average slobs ain’t no millionaires; that means we won’t get a special rate. You are spot on.

  • http://twitter.com/bdnbiz Matt Wickenheiser

    Yup – and there’s still a manufacturer in Brewer making auto parts; good buddy of mine works there still – I *think* it’s the japanese partner that was there ….

  • Anonymous

    Why would it be the unnamed “ consul general” who was slinging the bull. LePage has been known to , how should I put this……………………? To spin a yarn from time to time. Yes that’s it he spins yarns.

  • Anonymous

    It’s terrible with a BTU baseline. 

    As for capacity factor, there is also capacity factor at peak:

    Electricity resource planners credit only a fraction of potential wind capacity

    http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=1370

  • Anonymous

    France’s use of nuclear energy is nothing to be duplicated. Is nuclear power good, yes, but “not” like France.

  • Anonymous

    Seems like Portland area could be a great  location with direct access to rail and shipping + natural gas available.

  • Anonymous

    So you must see that the Wall St. protesters are right about corporate greed being at the heart of the economic problems. 

    Read your own words again, and deny you have things in common with them, please. 

  • Anonymous

    Most liberals applaud the high energy cost.It keeps their Green hoax going and keeps jobs from coming to Maine.Those nasty old factory’s ruin the liberal entitlement way of life.

  • Anonymous

    Profit is corporate greed? paychecks grow on trees also

  • Anonymous

    they did for thirty years we finally got them out.

  • Anonymous

    Yes lets all rush to get the only job left inMaine yogi the park bear .

  • Anonymous

    open a factory in Maine and employ people

  • Anonymous

    He’s trying, but people like you would rather be negative on comment boards than contact their Senator or Rep and tell them to support his efforts.

  • Anonymous

    No, just bonuses  are there for the picking.  . 

  • Anonymous

    Does the Governor need Asian companies to tell him about our high energy costs.   He might want to check with Maine consumers who have experienced high energy costs for more than a decade.

  • Anonymous

    They caved to the UAW to often.

  • Anonymous

    turn out the lights…. No Way. If you want change, you got to be positive. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    Detroit’s decline, both the city and its auto manufacturing industry, can be blamed on Democrat mayors, the UAW, and government regulations.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like the Governor needs Asian companies to tell him about high energy costs.  Maine residents have known that for decades long before the push for green energy.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Maybe they want to make high tech components like floor mats here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1071238036 Aaron Dotter

    Nuclear power is subsidized as much or more than wind power and other renewable sources.  It’s not “cheap power” if you take that out of it.

  • Anonymous

    I thought that, too. Gov. LePage  does not have the bandwidth to know when an Oriental diplomat was blowing  smoke up his arrogant  …   

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t Toyota have a plant in one of our southern states?

  • Anonymous

    That’s a good thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/samaqan Mikoo Mendoza

    Having Asian companies come to Maine is a good thing for jobs. Giving money to the private sector is a waste; people get greedy with influx of dollars they are not so willing to share.  6 mill to a administer training programs IS criminal! No wonder Maine is hurting: lack of oversight. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes and it has been there for years.

  • Anonymous

    Want to lower energy costs and expand natural gas usage.  Start talking Turkey with the Natural Gas Generator owners in Veazie.  Currently they only run one generator and let the second generator sit idle. Why?  If you flood the market with electricity the rates will come down.  Companies learn how to play the Cash game as soon as they set up.  First up….Set up the Mirrors and Smoke screens before you have a PUC meeting.  Butter up the Players and set up a long term Milking program for the consumers!

  • Anonymous

    Then support domestic oil and natural gas…

  • Anonymous

    LOL….you are apparently not very familiar with how the projects are financed

  • Anonymous

    The “average slob” will make well over 2 million by the time they retire, especially when you figure in our current rate of inflation.  Just what is a ‘millionaire” and please explain how they somehow get a “special rate” on electricity.  You seriously think that a power company says, “well, we see you have lots of money, therefore, we are going to charge you less”….ROTFLMAO…you are most certainly not a business minded person!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, like MORE smelly neo-hippies in Augusta will fix the problem!

  • Anonymous

    A protectionist, anti-free trade approach is NOT the answer.  And as far as our sovereignty is concerned, begin with actual respect of private property rights within our court system.  Unless you fix that long-broken fiasco, you have no hope of protecting American Sovereignty. 

  • Anonymous

    Asia companies want Maine over 49 other states, partly because of the climate. Not credible. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Efforts?

      First he obliges and panders to out of State Interests and the Insurance Industry like a paid off puppet and now he wants  to oblige the Chinese.

    This guy needs to go away!

    Way Away!

  • Anonymous

    The Governor and Natural gas…some things naturally go together!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    They dont exist because there was No protection!

    If protectionism doesn’t work,

     Why are we protecting foriegn commerce and Global Corporations with our 700 + bases in foriegn countries, and erroneous wars?

  • Anonymous

    *IF* we’re talking about automobile manufacturing or assembly plants, then we’re going to have to upgrade our railroads too.  Auto plants are large things and they simply don’t get supplied by tractor trailers adequately as far as I’ve seen.

  • Anonymous

    Our utitlities are know owned by forighn interests so tell them to lower the rates. We have no control of it.

  • Anonymous

    “Most liberals applaud the high energy cost.”  can you please provide the evidence to support your asinine assertion?  thank you.

  • Anonymous

    Your right a french company had enough money to buy CMP.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Why?

     I allready  made my fortune, and a fortune has been made off from me.

    Its time to throttle back and coast! 

  • Anonymous

    yeah, democrat mayors, the uaw, and government regulations are responsible for the countless ugly designs, heavy emphasis on gas guzzling suvs in favor of fuel efficient cars, much worse than average reliability,  and cheap interior materials common among gm vehicles spanning the 1970′s to today.  you’re fooling yourself.  

  • Anonymous

    republicans hate unions.  unions cut into corporate profits.  i understand that fact of life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJQKFIBPEJ4G3YJTMPPQC25MFI David

    “He said he plans in January to introduce a “very controversial” bill to eliminate income taxes on retirees’ pensions. Maine Revenue Services estimates that the move would cost $93 million and reduce taxes for 75,000 people.”What in the world does cutting taxes on retirees have to do with the cost of energy??

  • Anonymous

    I’m growing rather sick of having this guy lie to us in order to move an RNC agenda forward.  I’d like to see him act in the best interest of Mainer’s and stop spending so much time and political capital pleasing his bosses.

  • Anonymous

    Very nicely put!  “Yarns”!  I like that one, and quite apt.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CL7IBDRT3K73W6YUTS54SWEA4A David

    I thought I had seen it all with Mr LePage and now this.  We lost out on an automobile manufacturing facility because of (finger pointing) somebody’s fault.  Yes, but, wait a minute people.  Really?  C’mon, let’s think about this.  Our CLIMATE in the Northeastern part of the US is NOT CONDUCIVE to the AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY!!  Please, let’s put the hysterics aside for just a second and think about that.  It would be similar to saying Florida should have an alpine ski training facility.  Sure, it COULD be done but is it feasible given the climate? NO!

  • Anonymous

    “he plans in January to introduce a “very controversial bill to eliminate income taxes on retirees’ pensions.” Like his own pension when he is finished being governor……

  • Anonymous

    Nissan too I think….in Georgia?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, it saves them costs on shipping cars for us to buy! People with jobs can afford to buy cars…another win win

  • Anonymous

    Most liberals support solar and wind energy.  With a capacity factor in the sub 40s range on both technologies, how can you sit here with a straight face and claim you are NOT applauding high energy costs?  If you don’t even understand the basics of what you are talking about then don’t sit here and demand evidence from others.  Derive your own evidence and your own sources man, this is the age of information and technology, get over self and get educated! 

  • Anonymous

    Basically, that article is stating that it is less windy from 7am to 11pm, Monday thru Friday.  The North East is a nocturnal wind region per the studies I have seen.  Use wind to offset more expensive fuel in the off-peak.  The price of electricity hinges on the price of the fuel used to make it.  Wind is free fuel.  While it is harder to plan around, the “free” part of the equation is always good.  It may take a little more work to get to where we need, but making electrons out of thin air really doesn’t seem like a bad idea to me.  Ask the Chinese who are HUGE adopters of wind energy right now.  They even have started manufacturing their own turbines.

  • Anonymous

    Asian companies decided to make US companies their
    bitches long ago.

  • Anonymous

    RIGHT!  What automaker would put an automobile manufacturing facility in a northern state where it’s cold and it snows?  Oh, the Big Three are located in Detroit, MI?  I didn’t realize that!  And Detroit gets cold and has almost 4 feet of snow per year…

    And Honda has two plants in Alliston, Ontario, which gets more annual snowfall than Portland.  Huh!  I guess it is conducive to the auto industry after all. 

    Maybe the one who should do some thinking about this is you.  Just a suggestion.

    And since Algore said “the planet has a fever,” we might just get warm enough to be a conducive climate for auto manufacturing – according to you!!!  Another benefit of AGW!!!

  • Anonymous

    Umm, Governor LePage? Maine residents would like to see lower energy costs too. Just thought I’d share that.

  • Anonymous

    Fukushima, anyone? Chernobyl? Hello?

  • http://www.stcroixvideoproductions.com stcroixvid

    Yes, try a big Hyundai plant in Montgomery Alabama.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAJZRSHZOYGTLTZOUREIQ7PRFY Mmmm

    When did he meet with any Japanese officials?  ”Beautiful Climate”?

    Is this another “secret admirer” moment?

  • Anonymous

    Yep and sometimes like with the UAW the unions grow so big and powerful that they make the business untenable and they have to file for bankruptcy and government bailouts.

  • Anonymous

    Look the UAW resisted design changes that would have made the company more productive and prevented the Asian car markers from getting a foothold in the US market.
    The changes would have meant fewer jobs and cheaply made automobiles. The union forced that in the autoworkers strikes of the 60′s and subsequent negotiations.  It is easy to blame someone else for something without acknowledging your own role. The unions are good at that. Teachers unions do that all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Yes.

     He is threatening the Maine way of life. You know, the one where nearly half the population is on some sort of assistance.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t he find some American corporate butt to kiss?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Wal-mart and Mardens relies on those on assistance, First so that they can pay a substandard wage and second so that they sell substandard products made in a Foriegn country with substandard labor and enviromental laws! 

  • Anonymous

    The people who wanted the dams taken out still want them gone. They don’t want industry here. They want to make the state of Maine a national park. The hippies are winning the war.

  • Anonymous

    Who cares about the Asian automakers?  I want my energy costs to go down.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    “My administration cares about one thing

    We Know!

    Buisness Profit’s!

    We read your sign on Rte.95!

  • Anonymous

    There is no need to criticize the Governor.  He knows a lot more about these matters compared to the liberal haters on here.  He has brought the Waterville Miracle to Maine and the dems. can’t take it.

  • Anonymous

    I lived down in Alabama during the time they were building the Hyundai and Mercedes plants there….one of the reasons most (all?) of the foreign car plants are set up in the South is due to the fact that they are anti-union down there. I know a couple of the workers and they make more like $14 per hour plus benefits (a little less than $20 per hour total)…still to folks from Alabama a great wage….I don’t know how that kind of salary would be viewed up here. The employees down there basically watch the robots build the cars so there isn’t a lot of manual labor involved.

    It also cost the State hundreds of millions of dollars to get the plants there since there is a lot of competition between the States to attract these plants.

    The Mercedes plant builds the M class SUVs, the Hyundai plant started out with building the Sonata, then added the Santa Fe and lately started building the Elantra. The Hyundai plant started with around 1000 workers and now I believe are up to 2500 or more. There were also various component companies that set up shop in AL/GA/MS to supply some of the components that are needed…

  • Anonymous

    The UAW was on the design teams? Wow that’s a stretch. The problem with GM, Ford, Chrysler is that they couldn’t see the trees for the forest. They insisted in building Edsels when the market just wasn’t there.
    Honda snapped up an idea that was rejected by GM, therefore they now have the cleanest burning engines in the world. A American designed a cylinder head that consisted of a pre-combustion system that burned a lot more  of the raw fuel mixture. It worked and Honda had the brains in management that could see it.
    You can’t blame all the woes of US auto industry on the unions. It takes two to tango.

    If you want to read an interesting book try ‘On a clear day you can see General Motors’.

  • Anonymous

    Japan and Korea are quite used to this kind of climate.

  • Anonymous

    I think I lean toward the liberal spectrum on most things. I am for alternative energy because I realize that there is a finite amount of fosil fuel on this planet. I would if I could put a wind generator on my property. I would love to have enough money to put in thermal energy, etc.
    I believe that the majority of those who come out of the woodwork to fight anything in Washington County Maine are those who have made theirs and don’t want anything to come here to disturb their pristine view. They came all unglued at the thought of LNG plants on Passamaquoddy Bay. They did the same when a refinery was proposed back in the 70′s. They turned a blind eye when the RR to Eastport was shut down then torn up. They are the NIMBY’s.

  • Anonymous

    While I rarely agree with our governor, he is on to something here.  The reason Asian companies locate is threefold.   1) low energy costs – most of the plants have been in the area served by the Tennessee Valley Authority, where most of the electricity is hydroelectrically generated;  2) relatively low taxation on businesses –  that speaks for itself  and  3) right to work states where unions power is somewhat curtailed.  GM, Toyota, Nissan and Mazda all have plants in these areas.

    Plus, I am an educator, and in today’s world and economic situation, employers need workers with a specific skill.  Many 4 year degrees, while great, provide no specific skill, they are generalist degrees.  Technical certificated programs, and two year apprentice programs are the future of education in America.  There are many trades that cannot be outsourced, and we need to have workers ready when this economic bust ends.  Some trades always in demand are   1) electricians, 2) plumbers  3) HVAC technicians  4) medical fields  5) mechanics;  – and the list goes on and on.

    We don’t need every citizen in the US to have a 4 year college degree, in fact in this recession, these people have suffered most because the good paying jobs disappeared.  They never had a job that entailed manual labor, and today, many of the jobs we have are manual labor, and service industry jobs.  The market can only absorb so many of these degreed people. Many times they interview for a job and are told they are over qualified, and when the economy gets better they will leave a low paying job. The companies don’t want to invest limited resources on an employee who will leave when better jobs are offered.

    So, though rarely, even I have to agree with our governor.  We need cheap power, lower corporate taxes, and training incentives to get Maine more industry.  Plus we need to expand our vocational and technical programs state wide.  Some programs, even in this weak economy, have waiting lists.

  • Anonymous

    What is the start up time for a Nuclear Generating Plant? From conception, permiting, engeneering, passing all the hoops and rings, construction, more testing, before one goes on line?
    15,20, 25 years? Chances are I will be long dead before any of them years.
    You anti wind people want a coal plant built here? I’m sure that the smoke billowing out of them smoke stacks would be just beautiful at sunup or sunset. Of course we could build them in Lubec and have the smoke blow toward the east.
    How about hydro? Canada is willing and ready to deliver lots of that. We are too busy eliminating our hydro dams. I guess it’s cheaper than building fish ladders.
    Solar would be cheap, but there was a cloud in the sky the other day. Let’s kill that idea because it doesn’t cover all our needs.
    Let’s wait for China to develop an alternative energy source. Let’s crush any idea that America might come up with. Research is totally foolish. You know all you need to know about energy. Anything that needs to be discovered has already been discovered.

    Vote NO on any change to the status quo. Close your eyes to anything new.

  • Anonymous

    Keep them in Asia!! Our government gives all these foriegn people MONEY to start up their business in this country. NO THANKS. They are considered minorities so they get lots of money. If you don’t believe this check out why all the Pakistan people own all the gas stations and stores around. They were given MONEY to buy these conpanies out. DUMB ANERICA for doing that!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Reduce energy costs? Never will happen in Maine.  LePage better tell the Asians that Canadian companies now own and run Maine’s energy dependence. LePage owes his draft dodging sanctuary, Canada, money for his former hideout from the war.

  • Anonymous

    Simple.  They charge industry the lower rate while nailing us with the higher rate.  CMP already has tiers on thier rates, now that we have the Smart Meters, the possibilities are endless.

  • Anonymous

    Amen!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Well I have to give him credit!

    He said that he was for Transparency!

    His lies are “VERY” Transparent!

  • Anonymous

    No. Pay attention. What they did was protect the jobs on the existing line. Smaller more fuel efficient cars would have cost union jobs. I am not saying that management made all the right moves. I am saying the companies options were limited by UAW requirements.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder what you would be saying if a liberal governor was in power. Some people just can’t help themselves from reacting impulsively, can they? It’s not the idea or the action that counts…it’s always the person it seems with some people. Personally I don’t care so much about him or what he looks like (Penquin = Franco American). To me it’s what he does. If he’s successful in the end, it doesn’t matter what party he belongs to, what his heritage is, or what he looks like. Give him a break, or is that too much to ask for?

  • Anonymous

    I think you are seeing with the wrong eyeglasses on and hearing with the wrong hearing aids on. Is your glass half empty too?

  • Anonymous

    yeah, i like the one about beautiful climate.  absolutely beautiful climate in maine in the winter. 

  • Anonymous

    I’ve got a great idea. Let’s charge seperately for power generation and delivery ( power lines , etc. ) This will reduce the rates. That way the power generators can buy power on the grid and sell it cheaper to the public…. Oh wait. We already tried this. Power rates still went up and so did corporate profits. Angus’ King’s legacy   Deregulation

  • Anonymous

    Honda, Nissan and Toyota all have assembly plants in the U.S. I know Honda has several plants in Ohio, and I think Toyota’s plants are concentrated in the southeast.

  • Anonymous

    asian carmakers got a foothold in the us market due to the fact that they made fuel efficient cars with far better styling that were more reliable.  gm’s response was the chevy vega.  you’re going to blame the uaw for the vega?  

  • Anonymous

    You really don’t know how unions work. So best of luck.

  • Anonymous

    all of the former governors you list wanted to raise taxes, increase the welfare rolls, and were anti-business?  earth to pitbull32.  come in, pitbull32.

  • Anonymous

    You are on the right track Governor. Lower our energy costs, along with the lower taxes and we will get good paying jobs here in Maine. Maine people will benefit two fold, lower energy rates/taxes at home and a good job you can support a family on. It is refreshing to see this Gov. looking out for Maine people in a substantial way and talking with companies that can bring good jobs here instead of pursuing Cuba to buy lobster and blueberries.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_25LJ6KETIP5DVBAPMUYRGCCDTU Brandon D

    It is refreshing to see ideas like these put on the table to help attract jobs.  I won’t hold my breath though; being LePage he’ll probably find some controversial, “My way or the highway” method to kill support and validity to the idea.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    My Comments are based on what he says and does!

    Liberal or Conservative it doesn’t matter.

    For instance The previous Governor took GP s liabilitiy  land fill off from their books and put it on the tax payers. It was wrong when He did it and it is wrong when Lepage did it!

    Conservative principals of Individual responsibilities should extend to corporations as well as Individuals.

    Liberal principals that hold the government as the regulatory agency to oversee enviromental laws should do just that and hold the Corporation responsible for thier waste!

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you that management made decisions that led to the lousy
    product rolling off the assembly lines of Detroit. However, the
    decisions that were made were based on the reality that they faced; the
    companies needed to be competitive against the better quality imported
    cars based on price, meet increasing government regulations for safety
    and emissions and they still had to turn a profit for the
    shareholders.   and they also had to make good on over the top union
    pensions benefits and pay scale.  When faced with the realities laid out
    here, management had no choice but to cut costs somewhere in order to
    compete. As a result, quality suffered as well as design and research.
    Not defending the UAW or the big 3 here as I believe both have some
    responsibility in the collapse of the domestic auto industry.

    The market demanded suv’s and light trucks. The management of the big 3
    did not force them down the throats of American consumers.

    BTW I have driven foreign made vehicles exclusively since 1995 with the exception of 2004 when I purchased a new Ford Explorer, (pos) and I am a union represented employee.

  • Anonymous

    i agree that both should share responsibility.  detroit also knew that market demand for suvs and light trucks is highly influenced by fuel costs.  

  • Anonymous

    On this I think you are off base. I will admit that unions shot themselves in the foot, but the companies did as bad or worse. I would like to see proof that the unions were consulted on engeneering and designs. The unions aren’t connected to marketing or sales. The problems of our auto industry lay in their failure to produce what the market wanted.

  • http://profiles.google.com/acetojj Jason Aceto

    “What we need to do is lower spending of the public sector and try to
    move as many resources to the private sector so the private sector can
    be profitable and prosperous,” said LePage.

    Class warfare.  Tighten your belt if you’re a worker, but loosen it up if you produce capital.  Have we forgotten that wealth rarely, “trickles down”?  This is the spoils system all over again.  The man is an enemy of the people.  If Lepage is so worried about overhead costs, maybe we should take his head, then we wouldn’t have to pay out of our taxes to feed his fat face.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure of he specifics in the GP case or the other (involving the Millinocket paper mill, I presume). All I know is that both individuals and corporations do not pick up after themselves during and after bankruptcy because they simply can’t afford to. I’ve seen abandoned polluted gas stations cleaned up with federal grants locally simply because the former owners could not afford to pick up the tab or had gone bankrupt. I recognize the problem in that it should not be the government’s responsibility. But who will clean up if not the government? Regrettably toxic waste sites have been allowed to occur in the past that should never have been allowed to occur.

    In the case of the paper mill, the Canadian firm that was operating it was doing so at a loss. Requiring this company to clean up the toxins (caused by previous owners besides themselves) would certainly have cause it to abandon the mill entirely and refuse to cooperate with efforts to sell the mill to a willing buyer and operator.

  • Anonymous

    It was my understanding that the tsunami was responsible for the unavailability of parts due to parts plant closures and shipping issues and I didn’t read that the Japanese said they were interested in building full scale assembly plants.  We have manufactured parts for a German automaker (Lemfoerder’s in Brewer), so it stands to reason we could do the same for the Japanese.  It takes a lot of parts factories to build a car and investigating ways to make Maine more palatable to parts manufacturers is a good start.     

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