One complaint filed with state on transfer of landfill to complete mill sale

The East Millinocket mill.
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The East Millinocket mill.
Posted Sept. 27, 2011, at 12:15 p.m.
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EAST MILLINOCKET, Maine — Cate Street Capital appeared well on its way over the last hurdle late Tuesday to assuming full ownership of the two Katahdin region paper mills, with state environmental officials saying they saw no significant problems with the transfer of the Dolby landfill to the state.

As of 4:30 p.m., state officials had received only one comment from the public regarding the transfer of environmental permits from mills owner Brookfield Asset Management to the State Planning Office — a good sign for Cate Street, said Samantha Depoy-Warren, spokeswoman for the Maine Department of Environmental Protection.

“I can’t say this with certainty, but the last time I checked, there were no significant impediments” to the Cate Street sale, Depoy-Warren said Tuesday. “That’s also a good sign for the Katahdin region.”

State leaders announced on Sept. 16 that Cate Street had bought the East Millinocket and Millinocket mills in escrow for an undisclosed price from Brookfield Asset Management. A final sale of the mills is expected by Friday. Last week Cate Street hiring 215 workers to fill its first order for newsprint.

The state’s assumption of ownership of the Dolby landfill is crucial to the sale of the mills. Cate Street is buying the mills in escrow to allow the lapsing of a 20-day public comment period required by law for the the state to assume ownership.

The one comment came from the Conservation Law Foundation of Portland. It alleges that the state’s plan to assume ownership of the landfill violates the Maine Constitution because it saddles the state with millions of dollars in future operations and closure costs.

State and Cate Street officials have declined to comment on the foundation’s contentions.

Maine Department of Environmental Protection Commissioner Patricia W. Aho and her staff will review the permit transfer and could decide to accept it as early as Wednesday morning, Depoy-Warren said.

“The commissioner is fully aware of the time factor involved in this,” Depoy-Warren said, saying that the review would be done shortly. “They know how important this is to the region.”

Besides the hiring of 215 workers — good news in in the Katahdin region, which has had a 21 percent unemployment rate since the East Millinocket mill closed in April, idling 415 workers — the new Great Northern Paper Co. LLC must begin working as soon as possible to fill the Oct. 30 order, company officials have said.

Cate Street spokesman Scott Tranchemontagne declined to comment Tuesday on how soon Cate Street will complete its purchase of the mills.

The Legislature voted in April to approve the state’s ownership of the landfill but many legislators weren’t happy about it. They supported restarting the mills, but some decried what they called “corporate blackmail” on the part of Brookfield for essentially forcing the state to do the cleanup.

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  • Anonymous

    Thought the last hurdle might be getting rid of Quimby lol Go G.N.P.

  • Anonymous

    Bruce you need better sources … who do you think is paying the Conservation Lawyer?

  • Anonymous

    Great Northwoods Park!

  • Anonymous

    Great Northwoods Park!

  • Anonymous

    Great Northwoods Park!

  • Anonymous

    Shut up, and go back to work. 

  • Anonymous

    Shut up, and go back to work. 

  • Anonymous

    Shut up, and go back to work. 

  • Anonymous

    Best of luck to the new GNP.  all of its employees and all of the area businesses that will benefit from the sale.

    Now to Quimby, you’ve shown your true colors with your most recent bribe to the snowmobile association.  Leave us alone, the majority don’t want anything to with you or your land.  You may leave now.

  • Anonymous

    Best of luck to the new GNP.  all of its employees and all of the area businesses that will benefit from the sale.

    Now to Quimby, you’ve shown your true colors with your most recent bribe to the snowmobile association.  Leave us alone, the majority don’t want anything to with you or your land.  You may leave now.

  • Anonymous

    Best of luck to the new GNP.  all of its employees and all of the area businesses that will benefit from the sale.

    Now to Quimby, you’ve shown your true colors with your most recent bribe to the snowmobile association.  Leave us alone, the majority don’t want anything to with you or your land.  You may leave now.

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne-
    The mills are going to restart-
    Mill workers are going to go back to work-
    We will hunt, fish and sled on Great Northern property-
    And I doubt you will get the enough support from Maine’s Delegation to get your park off the ground….

    So don’t go away mad, just go away….!

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne-
    The mills are going to restart-
    Mill workers are going to go back to work-
    We will hunt, fish and sled on Great Northern property-
    And I doubt you will get the enough support from Maine’s Delegation to get your park off the ground….

    So don’t go away mad, just go away….!

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne-
    The mills are going to restart-
    Mill workers are going to go back to work-
    We will hunt, fish and sled on Great Northern property-
    And I doubt you will get the enough support from Maine’s Delegation to get your park off the ground….

    So don’t go away mad, just go away….!

    .

  • Anonymous

    boy you liberals are awfully touchy

  • Anonymous

    This is good news for the Katahdin region having a working forest and not a locked up federal park that benefits only tree huggers !!

  • Anonymous

    This is good news for the Katahdin region having a working forest and not a locked up federal park that benefits only tree huggers !!

  • Anonymous

    This is good news for the Katahdin region having a working forest and not a locked up federal park that benefits only tree huggers !!

  • Anonymous

    This is good news for the Katahdin region having a working forest and not a locked up federal park that benefits only tree huggers !!

  • Anonymous

    This is good news for the Katahdin region having a working forest and not a locked up federal park that benefits only tree huggers !!

  • Anonymous

    Wow  10 mins of 5 and still no word… I wonder why? Ok actually I don’t wonder why but I’m betting a whole lot of you are!!!

  • Anonymous

    Wow  10 mins of 5 and still no word… I wonder why? Ok actually I don’t wonder why but I’m betting a whole lot of you are!!!

  • Anonymous

    Wow  10 mins of 5 and still no word… I wonder why? Ok actually I don’t wonder why but I’m betting a whole lot of you are!!!

  • Anonymous

    Wow  10 mins of 5 and still no word… I wonder why? Ok actually I don’t wonder why but I’m betting a whole lot of you are!!!

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    Without fanfare, without speeches, no grumbling, not hate-mail or promises of coming back-

    Just go away…..

    .

  • Anonymous

    Without fanfare, without speeches, no grumbling, not hate-mail or promises of coming back-

    Just go away…..

    .

  • Anonymous

    And putting people back to work…!

  • Anonymous

    And putting people back to work…!

  • Anonymous

    They just get that way when it doesn’t go their way

  • Anonymous

    They just get that way when it doesn’t go their way

  • Anonymous

    I guess it’s politically incorrect for us liberals to tell others what do, like you do to Ms. Quimby. 

    Odd how you all don’t like others being just like you are. 

    LOL  

  • Anonymous

    I guess it’s politically incorrect for us liberals to tell others what do, like you do to Ms. Quimby. 

    Odd how you all don’t like others being just like you are. 

    LOL  

  • Anonymous

    Great Northern owns no property other then mills.They even  got rid of the land fill and the cleanup problem. This deal will not solve your free land use desires.

  • Anonymous

    Great Northern owns no property other then mills.They even  got rid of the land fill and the cleanup problem. This deal will not solve your free land use desires.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t be counting my chickens just yet, things they are a changing and changing fast. It won’t be long and there will be studies underway to get the correct info to the public.
     

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t be counting my chickens just yet, things they are a changing and changing fast. It won’t be long and there will be studies underway to get the correct info to the public.
     

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t be counting my chickens just yet, things they are a changing and changing fast. It won’t be long and there will be studies underway to get the correct info to the public.
     

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care what Quimby does with her land, but when it becomes an issue of the taxpayers— then yes, I have every right….!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care what Quimby does with her land, but when it becomes an issue of the taxpayers— then yes, I have every right….!

  • Anonymous

    Your right, I should have said Katahdin Timberlands, and this deal does help, and it also serves to help keep Quimby out….!

  • Anonymous

    Your right, I should have said Katahdin Timberlands, and this deal does help, and it also serves to help keep Quimby out….!

  • Anonymous

    Your right, I should have said Katahdin Timberlands, and this deal does help, and it also serves to help keep Quimby out….!

  • Anonymous

    Could you please share your concerns with us on this issue of taxes in more detail?

  • Anonymous

    Could you please share your concerns with us on this issue of taxes in more detail?

  • Anonymous

    Could you please share your concerns with us on this issue of taxes in more detail?

  • Anonymous

    Could you please share your concerns with us on this issue of taxes in more detail?

  • Anonymous

    Oh, 
    So, please explain what tax payer issues is,  and how it has anything to do this article ? 

  • Anonymous

    I welcome it; but if it says you can’t have both a park and a mill,, guess which one will get the axe

  • Anonymous

    6 o’clock news and still no news?  Gee you’re all awful quiet now. What’s the matter ? Can’t bring yourself to say ” wow maybe she is right ” ? 

  • Anonymous

    6 o’clock news and still no news?  Gee you’re all awful quiet now. What’s the matter ? Can’t bring yourself to say ” wow maybe she is right ” ? 

  • Anonymous

    6 o’clock news and still no news?  Gee you’re all awful quiet now. What’s the matter ? Can’t bring yourself to say ” wow maybe she is right ” ? 

  • Anonymous

    6 o’clock news and still no news?  Gee you’re all awful quiet now. What’s the matter ? Can’t bring yourself to say ” wow maybe she is right ” ? 

  • Anonymous

    6 o’clock news and still no news?  Gee you’re all awful quiet now. What’s the matter ? Can’t bring yourself to say ” wow maybe she is right ” ? 

  • Anonymous

    And Quimby don’t let the door hit ya on the way out. 

  • Anonymous

    Have you taken 4 minutes to go to ask.com and type in federal regulations on paper mills IN National Parks? I didn’t think so. Because not only are they allowed within 100 miles of a National Park there is a whole map showing ALL THE MILLS INSIDE OF NATIONAL PARKS AND FORESTS.  You’re lack of research  makes the rest of the  anti-Parkers look as uninformed as you. And many of us are sick of being clumped in that  bunch with you.

  • Anonymous

    What deal? The lack of announcement is a sure sign that the Conservation Lawyer got his way.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed, so let’s work to get these studies done and get the info out to the people, maybe we can have both and maybe we can’t.  We won’t know until we get the info.

  • Anonymous

    Lollipop, Lollipop. Is it time for some pie and a Pepsi???????????

  • Anonymous

    Then you are against that Maine bought the Dolby landfills?  Also I am sure you don’t want to see the state put any money into the natural gas pipeline for the mills. Taxpayer burdens.  If you’re not living or working in Millinocket, these things are a big waste of taxpayer cash. If  Maine is not  paying for welfare it is paying  in corporate welfare for Millinocket. I believe Maine still will be paying for both though. In a big way Millinocket has become a taxpayer issue for Maine despite its past contributions. Should it be sent down the river like the old mills’ effluent?
    I almost forgot about the ATV trails.  Are you upset that Millinocket(and in a way the states’) taxpayer cash went and is going into the Millinocket ATV trail? Tourism is of no value to the economy aside from selling the odd trinket and hamburger, that was your position if I recall correctly. So by that logic lots of cash went down the drain for nothing?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see how this changes the 70k acres in question, as it is not a working forest now and wouldn’t be if it was a park.

  • Anonymous

    Medway and Quimby they deserve each other

  • Anonymous

    Wake up Medway its not about 61,000 acres its about the bigger park your lying already by claiming its 70,000 acres. 

  • Anonymous

    Your never right !

  • Anonymous

    I checked she hasn’t made banana split bar yet.  But, what’s the matter Medwayone you sound a little upset that wwwdotcom called another one correctly???

  • Anonymous

    If I knew You were having a Park Meetin’ tonight I’d just love to show up with a big ol’ grin on my face for someone that told me I was wrong last Friday night!!!

  • Anonymous

    And having Maine assume millions of dollars in cleanup costs for the dumps!!! Are a few hundred jobs worth it? Not to mention the 8,000 hours the workers will need to complete before qualifying for benefits and pay higher than $11.00 an hour. Don’t worry, MaineCare, HEAP and foodstamps will pick up those too, just put it all on the state’s tab.

  • Anonymous

    really most of it comes from conservationist or the National Park Service. Not to mention some from Quimby’s own comments

  • Anonymous

    You mean as uninformed as those who believe Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Please don’t forget the biggest waste of tax payer dollars besides the atv path to no where.  Of course I mean the walking path that is 80% under water 80% of the year!

  • Anonymous

    how much more information do you need. Kind of like that hush, hush meeting a few weeks ago. Now we find out she is extorting the Snowmobile clubs, though I am sure Wiley will go for it hook, line and sinker. Like Medway did.

  • Anonymous

    Oh yes indeed I was 100% correct.

  • Anonymous

    No get it righ Bruce they can’t help it… they drank the kool aid!

  • Anonymous

    and Millinocket does not deserve him

  • Anonymous

    After the avg wage worker in that mill for 30+ yrs gets done paying 177 a week  for insurance  and before taxes there is only 12 cents difference between 11 bux an hour x 36 hours and 15.92 x 36 hours minus 177. So… if you’re going to get out the violin make it for the man with 30+ yrs not the no experience newbie!

  • Anonymous

    bravo!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    The state’s assumption of ownership of the Dolby landfill is crucial to the sale of the mills. Cate Street is buying the mills in escrow to allow the lapsing of a 20-day public comment period required by law for the the state to assume ownership.

    What do you think the dog and pony show was for the last six months!

    The State was Taken Hostage by a solvent corporation bent on Maximising Profits and minimumising liabilities by threatening to scrap the mill if they didn’t take the Landfill.

       Our great Republican Tea Party Govenor sure saw to it that we didn’t spend any unnessesary money on DHS while increasing our Tax Burden for the benefit of a Totally Solvent company with available funds to clean up their liabilities themslves. Bullies allways threaten the weak and run from the strong

        This is a sad day when the Govenor elected by the people on the platform of lowering Taxes does the opposite and takes on an unnessesary spending liability that belonged to a private enterprise fully capable of absorbing it itself!

    Shame on the Governor of Maine and its legislators!

    You have NO integrity !

  • Anonymous

    how many millions of dollars is the dolby landfill going to cost the state taxpayers? Welfare is welfare, taxpayer money is taxpayer money…..funny how it’s ok to spend millions when it benefits a few hundred millworkers but not if it benefits a few hundred workers making a few dollars less an hour?

  • Anonymous

    please don’t tell me you are listening to a selectman’s wife in East Millinocket….claims you can’t have a paper mill near a national park? NOT TRUE….this company should be happy to be held to a higher standard for emissions….they are a ‘green’ company.

     They just make up crap to use as scare tactics! Just like I’m under investigation for the last comment I made similar to this one??? hahahaha lies always catch up to people….can’t wait till the next election!

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure CantAfford2Retire with his  inflatable raft uses the Mike Michaud Trail daily so obviously that wasn’t a waste. His enjoyment along with honoring Rep. Michaud  is worth any price to the taxpayers! Plus, what’s a measly $600,000 anyways to a prosperous metropolis like Millinocket? Peanuts really.

  • Anonymous

    $177 applies to workers with families.  Couples and singles pay less.

  • Anonymous

    I think if you look at the maps of land on the west side of the river, when the last white spot is purchased it will be about 70k acres, the proposed park.

  • Anonymous

    You will find that your observations are more the norm for the Katahdin region than not.   This includes the people that rely on dontfenceMEin.com for all of their information and propaganda.  

  • Anonymous

    Your diatribe makes absolutely no sense.  This was not done for the owners of the landfill, it was done for prospective buyers of the milsl in order to make the purchase of the mills look economically viable and to put hundreds of Mainers back to work.  Yes, Cate Street probably has the money to cover these costs but if it makes the investment unprofitable what would make them want to do it.  They would keep their money to invest elsewhere and the mills would now be being disassembled for scrap iron.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a raw deal for the experienced hand. $11.00 for starter pay in my mind isn’t that bad really, but the probationary period is rather long. To me it doesn’t make sense that hard working people get paid so little that the government has to assist them in general living costs like heating, food and medical. I suppose it is common practice today that employers pay less than a living wage so the feds and the state have to keep the worker’s head above water. The experienced worker that earns more(even if it sadly just a few more dollars) just doesn’t qualify for the government programs. In the end I guess it negates their extra income or worse.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    she’s not leaving…

  • Anonymous

    No experience newbie? My current job is to travel around new england and fix mills and power plant and we have done maint support in many of them. i have many different trade where the guy with 30+ years only has the one, who would hire? So the fact that they are gonna pay some people $11 an hour they will figure out you get what you pay for and in a few years we will be right where we are now shut down.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    Just because the mill in Millinocket may reopen and few yocal locals don’t want the National Park doesn’t mean it won’t happen.  They seem to forget that the park land is in the State of Maine and the State of Maine will have a say what happens with the National Park, not the minority few in Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    I’d be interested to know how much Roxanne Quimby donated to the Conservation Law Foundation.  According to thier website, their donations are “secret”.

  • Anonymous

    Q flavored kool aid patient.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly and at Lincoln Pulp and Paper that same family pays 127 every 2 weeks for the same insurance plan!!! And LP&P gives them 2000 towards their copays!!!! And that was the best deal the union could come up with for these guys???   Your point is what ? This insurance is 7 bux cheaper than the current thieves insurance when they slammed the door shut. BUT it did away with dental , 50 copay on ER, and meds have tripled in cost for 1/3 as many days worth.  Would you care to explain again your point ?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if they can con the Cates St guys to start up Millinocket next month before it gets toooooooooo cold the school board can buy some pipe and pipe the steam from the mill over to heat the school that won’t have it’s boiler completed till MARCH!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ERCB2T6N3QKPQKAVCROWEH5V7E Lin

    a dog park is that really needed ??

  • Anonymous

    I see Dead Moose.

  • Anonymous

    How does it feel knowing no one likes you either in Millinocket or East?

  • Anonymous

    Oh come now don’t tell me you buy into the Mrs selectman’s ‘facts’ that are anything but?

  • Anonymous

    is that really the best you can do?

  • Anonymous

    is that really the best you can do?

  • Anonymous

    Northernpride,Dont compare the whole town of Medway as Quimby lovers ! 40 plus people voted at the meeting thats not many compared to the 1500 that live here !! Just because a few people from town sucked into her lies dosen’t mean we all have !!

  • Anonymous

    Northernpride,Dont compare the whole town of Medway as Quimby lovers ! 40 plus people voted at the meeting thats not many compared to the 1500 that live here !! Just because a few people from town sucked into her lies dosen’t mean we all have !!

  • Anonymous

    Get out of Bed Lollipopaddict and check the news… no problems seen and maybe all approved by Wed morning… And you need to get out more in the community and express your opinions and put your ideas to work. You obviously have alot more information than anyone I know.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JFBKOI7EXRX7MUJFO4JAI3LTQ4 James

    The landfill is going to be transferred to the State Planning Office-but isn’t LePage dismantling that agency?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JFBKOI7EXRX7MUJFO4JAI3LTQ4 James

    The landfill is going to be transferred to the State Planning Office-but isn’t LePage dismantling that agency?

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully the BDN will follow the story about this dump, since it is where much of the hidden cost for these mill jobs lies.  Penguin spent a lot of our money convincing people that  this unwanted, unprofitable factory re-open.  At some point soon, it would be nice to know what it really cost the rest of us.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1452684179 Jason Simonds

    We have a problem in this country, that presents a challenge to the people at large.

    To often large corporations profit from natural resource or a location. In the process they profit from their activity and make lots of product and money. Money for the owners and some money for the workers. But then, the gravy train runs out, as it always does and then “the people” get left with the mess. Wiscasset has a pile of Nuclear waste, Millinocket has a dump with… with who know what?.. the result of decades of dumping what evr they could stuff in there…

    While I appreciate that jobs are important, is it worth poisoning your grandchildren? Is the almighty need to profit, and profit more than one needs, so great that we must continue to ignore the true and full cost of some industrial processes?

    I can easily forsee the EPA coming in and finding nasty stuff in the dump, that as owners, the State will have to clean up, potentially negating any financial gain from reopening the plants.

    It is a tough rock and hard place situation. The people who need the jobs are just pawns in the mix, nothing more than grease use to smooth the way for corporate profits. The people get half decent wages, and in return inherit a useless industrial plant with no value and a dump filled with who knows what?

    And where will we be in 10 years? Staring down the same set of issues. Face it, the “Mills of Maine” have been swirling the bowl for decades and while it is sad to see our heritage get sucked down the drain, keeping it alive with extraneous measures just prolongs the end result of a painful and messy death.

    What the State has done or not done has had little to no effect n th4e demise of Maine’s industrial base and every thing to do with cheap labor and little to no environmental issues offered by other countries. They left for money. They left for greed. They do not and did not care about the people of Maine.

    I would be all for the State taking over the dump, but only after it is been thoroughly tested for the potential to be a toxic clean up site that costs the State hundreds of millions to clean up.

    Move forward.

  • Anonymous

    The state was responsible for oversight of the landfill since it’s inception. Therefore the state is complicit in letting the dump get to where it is.

    I have no qualms with letting the state do it’s job. They should have maintained the integrity of the landfill all along, but for some reason let it go.

  • Anonymous

    The state was responsible for oversight of the dump for all these years. If they let it get this bad, why shouldn’t they help in the clean up?

    Pretty simple if you ask me!!

  • Anonymous

    As a taxpayer I do have a say about a “ferderal” park….

  • Anonymous

    As a taxpayer I do have a say about a “ferderal” park….

  • Anonymous

    So you represent Quimby and or the feds, and you can assure that this can not happen…?

  • Anonymous

    Right, and I suppose that Salazar and his NP buddies will conduct the study,,,, why not just let Quimby do the study…. 

  • Anonymous

    So then whats the problem

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is far from a study stage

  • Anonymous

    I dont know any of the wife’s of the selectmen

  • Anonymous

    Unlike the past admin Mr lepage would rather put people to work.Not pay to keep them on the couch.

  • Anonymous

    Sure wish the true cost of old town would come out.

  • Anonymous

    Sell the landfill to casella .make a profit for the town.

  • Anonymous

    We all do.

  • Anonymous

    First of all the dump is in East Millinocket not Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    The mills may be unwanted by you (who will not work there), but they are critically important to us in the Millinocket area that want the 500 jobs that will be re-created.  Your on-going resentment and disdain of this area is simply unbelievable to me.  

  • Anonymous

    Hey Ziggy I guess you slept thru the part that said one complaint filed.  That one complaint points to Maine law which would require 2/3 of the jokers in Augusta and 2/3 of the people of Maine to approve the State taking over the landfill. And guess who filed it? The Conservation Lawyer.. who’s paycheck is coated in Bee’s Wax!!! It’s Weds morning where’s the permits?

  • Anonymous

    Wive’s

  • Anonymous

    Yes Sassy it’s the best they can do. They’ve been drinking Millinocket Kool Aid too long!

  • Anonymous

    Ah, yes………the Conservation Law Foundation of Portland. That well-known anti-Maine working people, anti-social justice, anti-common sense gang.
    Silly CLF.

  • Anonymous

    Dog park? OMG did Gene find more ” grant/tax payers’ ” money to now make a dog park?? I noticed KAT hasn’t been televising the town and school board meetings. I guess Charlie’s too busy campaigning. Guess I will have to round up a few friends and go sit and watch the comedy relief live at Town Hall and the High School. Definetly cheaper than the comic tickets in Bangor. 

  • Anonymous

    The walking path is NOT underwater at all.  Is it too much to ask that you get your facts straight – for once?

  • Anonymous

    Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    I WASN’T trying to make a point.   I was trying to make a clarification to lepageman.   I know all about the crappy insurance.  I was on it for 8 years.   I know the new (union sanctioned and sponsored) plan is no better than what we had before.  So, what’s your point in asking what my point was?   Do you like to argue for argument’s sake.   Maybe you just like to expound on your superior intellect by trying to make other people feel inferior.

  • Anonymous

    Good paying jobs like this pay taxes to support people on welfare programs,Methadone programs.

  • Anonymous

    wives

  • Anonymous

    why didn’t the previous owner clean it up if it is contaminated?  Better yet why don’t those that are concerned call the Federal EPA and have them intervene then we will all know.  Good luck

  • Anonymous

    thankyou

  • Anonymous

    But some here think we don’t

  • Anonymous

    500 jobs …. it’s noon where’s your permits? Secondly, why hasn’t Gov. LePage admitted that his plan now is to dump the dump on the Town of East Millinocket who has neither the resources, trained personel, or Money to operate it? But, no permits, no new owners, back to Brimfield to clean up their own mess!!!

  • Anonymous

    500 jobs …. it’s noon where’s your permits? Secondly, why hasn’t Gov. LePage admitted that his plan now is to dump the dump on the Town of East Millinocket who has neither the resources, trained personel, or Money to operate it? But, no permits, no new owners, back to Brimfield to clean up their own mess!!!

  • Anonymous

    500 jobs …. it’s noon where’s your permits? Secondly, why hasn’t Gov. LePage admitted that his plan now is to dump the dump on the Town of East Millinocket who has neither the resources, trained personel, or Money to operate it? But, no permits, no new owners, back to Brimfield to clean up their own mess!!!

  • Anonymous

    That’s why his secret plan is to now dump it on the town of East Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    That’s why his secret plan is to now dump it on the town of East Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    That’s why his secret plan is to now dump it on the town of East Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    HEY ZIGGY it’s noon!! That’s beyond Weds. morning in case you can’t figure that out.

  • Anonymous

    HEY ZIGGY it’s noon!! That’s beyond Weds. morning in case you can’t figure that out.

  • Anonymous

    HEY ZIGGY it’s noon!! That’s beyond Weds. morning in case you can’t figure that out.

  • Anonymous

    Facts are facts the international used scare tactics and lies to pass the contract. And he blatently lied that the insurance package was great compared to the current owner’s plan.  Or ya’ll wouldn’t still be checking the BDN every 5 mins. to see if they got the permits.  It’s not hard to make some people look foolish when they allow themselves to be quoted in the news media bs’ing the men and women that pay their salaries. 

  • Anonymous

    …she may not be leaving, but with the mills back in operation, she would be smart not to show her less than charming face. If there is one thing we all want to protect, its our way of life.. Our way of life isn’t 400,000 flatlanders parading all over our towns, treating the “locals” walking down the street like a freakin tour guide… Our way of life doesn’t include Massholes buying our homes for their camps because the land is cheap, then telling us how to run our local government… If quimby really wanted to help the local economy, she would SELL Great Northern Paper the lumber on her land… But we all know she wouldnt do that, because shes not about jobs, or the people.. Good luck GNP – and thank you for sending Roxanne back into hiding!!!

  • Anonymous

    Come back here in the spring and tell me how much of it is underwater? Come back after it rains every day in June, July, August and tell me how much is underwater? And then again in the fall before the ground freezes.  By the way when are you going to pay an officer to sit on Ash St. and stop all the motorized vehicles on the path? I’m on that road at least once a week. And every time never fails dirt bikes etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

    Just don’t bother cleaning up the landfill. The financial burden will fall to China when the sale of The United States is complete.

  • Anonymous

    By the way Gene you get that Tractor Supply to show up yet?

  • me in me

    Neither are my hemmorhoids, but I can still hope!!

  • Anonymous

    Exactly right ILLEGALSOUT, another Portland group telling everyone “the way life should be”.  Like it or not, the state will be the new owner of the Dolby land fill.  Imagine, the state  becoming responsible for a problem, by failing to enforce environmental laws, they created.  Pay your taxes Lolli, the reality of the situation is we just got ourselves a sludge dump. 

  • Anonymous

    A third party, sound o.k.?

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t Baldacci BUY the landfill in Old Town. Isn’t he Democrat?

  • poormaniac

    What about the millions of dollars that the mill folks have already ( years past ) paid into the state. You tax spenders didn’t have a problem with that !

  • me in me

    Dolby landfill is in East Millinocket? I thought it was in Dolby!

  • poormaniac

    Wait until Charlie runs for Millinocket council ! You ain’t seen nothing yet. Came from Boston , thinks he’s a native !

  • Anonymous

    Lollipop is right. East Millinocket is a dump.

  • me in me

    I’m really surprised at the amount of comments that put down the mill, the people of this area, and the efforts to satrt up the mill and create JOBS!!!!! If it was your town and economy your comments would probably be different. Maybe the workers are sick of  “state aid” and want to go back to work ( I know that can be hard  for some of you to understand). Give the mills and the workers a chance to be wage earners and tax payers -yes ,tax payers- (good news for the professional welfarers)

  • Anonymous

    I guess the Guvnah hasn’t been to Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t the rest of the town show up for the vote? I am no fan of this park idea, but you shouldn’t be complaining about a vote unless you participated.

  • Anonymous

    I still don’t see what point you are trying to make.    I am not disagreeing that the insurance package is total crap.  I listened to Lugden tell me (right to my face) that Meriturns insurance package was total crap.   It was $63.00 per week for better coverage.  It also included dental and eyeglasses.   His main argument against Meriturn was against the $2.00 per hour pay cut.  Do the math.   A $2.00 an hour  pay cut with no reduction of vacations , holidays and a better less expensive insurance plan for no reduction in pay, crappy insurance (no dental or eyeglasses), loss of vacation time, time and 1/2 only after 40 hours,  and reduction in holiday pay.   Just like every other union “schill” I’ve ever listened to,”Mr.” Lugden apparently thinks the entire union membership he represents has zero intelligence. 

      Lugden tells his membership that Cate Street’s insurance plan is better because it is union sponsored and sanctified.   $2.00 an hour….let’s see….that’s $72.00 on a short week and $104.00 on a big week.   $352.00 per 4 week cycle.  Katahdin Paper’s insurance for a family was$183.00 per week for $732.00 per cycle.   Meriturns insurance (Aetna) $63.00 per wk or $252 per cycle.  $352.00 minus $252.00….oh look, I have an extra $100.00.   I just have to give up $2.00 per hour to save $100.00 per month.   $732.00 minus $352.00 …..I have $380.00 less per month to spend.   If we go to the new plan: $177.00 per week or $708.00 per 4 week cycle.  $708.00 minus $352.00….a little better I’m only $356.00 in the hole.   Yeah, the $2.00 was worth it.  

    One more addendum to your comment:  I all don’t check the BDN every 5 minutes.   I reply to the notices I get from DISQUS whenever I open my E-mail.   As far as the mills are concerned: my chances of being rehired are probably slim to none.   I’ve stepped on too many toes and bent to many noses.   I have no chips in the game. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    “Conservation Law Foundation of Portland”.  Anti business at its best.

  • Anonymous

    It might have to do with the all great PR work here in the comments we have reading from around there for months. 

    Connect the dots. 

  • Anonymous

    We like our Sassy down here

  • Anonymous

    I agree you do have a say, but you still haven’t gone into detail about your problems with the tax issue. Is it because you don’t want to or because you don’t understand the tax issue?  Just asking, you put it out there…

  • Anonymous

    Not really.

  • Anonymous

    I have repeated this over and over— her park is not guaranteed it won’t become a tax burden, and all
    indicators point to its need to be funded on an annual basis.

    I don’t trust Quimby, and she has demonstrated enough reasons why-

    I don’t trust the feds, and they have a serious history of corruption, and reasons not to trust them-

    This park idea needs the majority of the local community trust and support— it doesn’t, because both the feds and Quimby cannot be trusted.

    Bottom line, she approached this with a liberal war plan, thereby guaranteeing opposition by onservatives, and if that wasn’t bad enough, her local followers kicked the animosity up a notch, thus guaranteeing future opposition.

  • Anonymous

    Well then, I guess we will see…

  • Anonymous

    The Mainers of Portland  pay taxes that will be used as part of this corporate Welfare Deal don’t like it any more than the rest of us whose taxes keep going into this region everytime these Mills are bought and shutdown.

  • Anonymous

    Why would he want to come to this God Forsaken Hole?

  • Anonymous

    YOU are the State. I hope the increase in your State taxes for this mess that you blame the State for puts serious limitations on your ability to eat and stay warm.

  • Anonymous

    At what cost to the rest of us that pay taxes to keep this White Elephant alive? Job retraining over and over again with little return on the taxpayer dollar, especially when the “Trainee” goes right back to the mills, Corporate welfare, I.E. Tax breaks, a landfill laid on the backs of the rest of us. It goes on and on. No one resents the area or the people, but it’s time to wake up and get in step with reality. 

  • Anonymous

    Being a Mainer of Portland, i’d sooner send my tax dollars to that region then pay for all the bummers, drovers and drakes standing around the Portland soup kitchens waiting for their next handout.  You like Lolli will just continue to be bitter when the deal is finalized.  DOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!  There you go Trout, just announced deal done.

  • Anonymous

    DONE DEAL Lollipopaddict!!!

    How would you like your crow?

  • Anonymous

    DONE DEAL Lollipopaddict!!!

    How would you like your crow?

  • Anonymous

    Done deal Lolli. What will you complain about now?

  • Anonymous

    Done deal Lolli. What will you complain about now?

  • Anonymous

    So you don’t know anything about the tax issue. Thanks for answering my question.

  • Anonymous

    So you don’t know anything about the tax issue. Thanks for answering my question.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you and everyone else has the right to your opinion and a vote (if we get that privledge), however, the slander on here takes it to a new level.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you and everyone else has the right to your opinion and a vote (if we get that privledge), however, the slander on here takes it to a new level.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you and everyone else has the right to your opinion and a vote (if we get that privledge), however, the slander on here takes it to a new level.

  • Anonymous

    Where are they?

    Someone needs to get some cooperation from the owners of that shopping center. The parking lot and building are in disrepair

    I am pretty sure that the walking path was paid for by a Federal Grant.  We, in Millinocket, can apply and receive grant money just like anyone else.

  • Anonymous

    Where are they?

    Someone needs to get some cooperation from the owners of that shopping center. The parking lot and building are in disrepair

    I am pretty sure that the walking path was paid for by a Federal Grant.  We, in Millinocket, can apply and receive grant money just like anyone else.

  • Anonymous

    Where are they?

    Someone needs to get some cooperation from the owners of that shopping center. The parking lot and building are in disrepair

    I am pretty sure that the walking path was paid for by a Federal Grant.  We, in Millinocket, can apply and receive grant money just like anyone else.

  • Anonymous

    I think the path is a nice idea and you have to put it into context because there are bigger fish to fry than to worry about the path.

    I would like to see more advertising and promotion of the area. I wonder if we could get a grant to hire someone to promote and bring dollars to the area?

    Why isn’t this an Urban Enterprize Zone or other type of (I dare say) Government programs to help with job creation and lower sales tax?

    What do we qualifiy for? Do we have someone that writes and applies for Grants?

  • Anonymous

    I think the path is a nice idea and you have to put it into context because there are bigger fish to fry than to worry about the path.

    I would like to see more advertising and promotion of the area. I wonder if we could get a grant to hire someone to promote and bring dollars to the area?

    Why isn’t this an Urban Enterprize Zone or other type of (I dare say) Government programs to help with job creation and lower sales tax?

    What do we qualifiy for? Do we have someone that writes and applies for Grants?

  • Anonymous

    I think the path is a nice idea and you have to put it into context because there are bigger fish to fry than to worry about the path.

    I would like to see more advertising and promotion of the area. I wonder if we could get a grant to hire someone to promote and bring dollars to the area?

    Why isn’t this an Urban Enterprize Zone or other type of (I dare say) Government programs to help with job creation and lower sales tax?

    What do we qualifiy for? Do we have someone that writes and applies for Grants?

  • Anonymous

    The new grass looks nice.

  • Anonymous

    The new grass looks nice.

  • Anonymous

    The new grass looks nice.

  • Anonymous

    No hate?

  • Anonymous

    Massholes?, you need to be FLAGGED.

    I imagine there are plenty of people from Mass that are better people than you.

  • Anonymous

    Massholes?, you need to be FLAGGED.

    I imagine there are plenty of people from Mass that are better people than you.

  • Anonymous

    Massholes?, you need to be FLAGGED.

    I imagine there are plenty of people from Mass that are better people than you.

  • Anonymous

    Massholes?, you need to be FLAGGED.

    I imagine there are plenty of people from Mass that are better people than you.

  • Anonymous

    ARE YOU A MAINEHOLE

    FLAG PAYCHECK2PAYCHECK BDN

  • Anonymous

    ARE YOU A MAINEHOLE

    FLAG PAYCHECK2PAYCHECK BDN

  • Anonymous

    ARE YOU A MAINEHOLE

    FLAG PAYCHECK2PAYCHECK BDN

  • Anonymous

    ARE YOU A MAINEHOLE

    FLAG PAYCHECK2PAYCHECK BDN

  • Anonymous

    I understand what you are saying. But this whole topic of the trail began by CantAfford2Retire raising the issue about the costs to the taxpayer for the proposed national park. That seemed pretty ridiculous to me considering all the money which goes into the Millinocket area at the cost of federal and state taxpayers. The trail is a cost to the taxpayer no different than a national park. Grant money, $500,000 or so, was  provided by the federal government . The town leadership speaks out against federal spending for a national park yet they can blow a half million of its money on a trail. That was my point. To be frank, I see a national park drawing people into the Katahdin region. A multi-use trail might be a nice idea for the community but it won’t be attracting many visitors, at least I don’t think it will. Should that kind of money be used for a trail when there are many more pressing matters at hand?
     
    Your last two questions are good but I am sorry to say I have no answers. This article’s message board is about dead but I am sure some other poster could answer them. Will have to wait  for the next article on this subject, or at a least fairly similiar one. Take care.

  • Anonymous

    I understand what you are saying. But this whole topic of the trail began by CantAfford2Retire raising the issue about the costs to the taxpayer for the proposed national park. That seemed pretty ridiculous to me considering all the money which goes into the Millinocket area at the cost of federal and state taxpayers. The trail is a cost to the taxpayer no different than a national park. Grant money, $500,000 or so, was  provided by the federal government . The town leadership speaks out against federal spending for a national park yet they can blow a half million of its money on a trail. That was my point. To be frank, I see a national park drawing people into the Katahdin region. A multi-use trail might be a nice idea for the community but it won’t be attracting many visitors, at least I don’t think it will. Should that kind of money be used for a trail when there are many more pressing matters at hand?
     
    Your last two questions are good but I am sorry to say I have no answers. This article’s message board is about dead but I am sure some other poster could answer them. Will have to wait  for the next article on this subject, or at a least fairly similiar one. Take care.

  • Anonymous

    I understand what you are saying. But this whole topic of the trail began by CantAfford2Retire raising the issue about the costs to the taxpayer for the proposed national park. That seemed pretty ridiculous to me considering all the money which goes into the Millinocket area at the cost of federal and state taxpayers. The trail is a cost to the taxpayer no different than a national park. Grant money, $500,000 or so, was  provided by the federal government . The town leadership speaks out against federal spending for a national park yet they can blow a half million of its money on a trail. That was my point. To be frank, I see a national park drawing people into the Katahdin region. A multi-use trail might be a nice idea for the community but it won’t be attracting many visitors, at least I don’t think it will. Should that kind of money be used for a trail when there are many more pressing matters at hand?
     
    Your last two questions are good but I am sorry to say I have no answers. This article’s message board is about dead but I am sure some other poster could answer them. Will have to wait  for the next article on this subject, or at a least fairly similiar one. Take care.

  • Anonymous

    I understand what you are saying. But this whole topic of the trail began by CantAfford2Retire raising the issue about the costs to the taxpayer for the proposed national park. That seemed pretty ridiculous to me considering all the money which goes into the Millinocket area at the cost of federal and state taxpayers. The trail is a cost to the taxpayer no different than a national park. Grant money, $500,000 or so, was  provided by the federal government . The town leadership speaks out against federal spending for a national park yet they can blow a half million of its money on a trail. That was my point. To be frank, I see a national park drawing people into the Katahdin region. A multi-use trail might be a nice idea for the community but it won’t be attracting many visitors, at least I don’t think it will. Should that kind of money be used for a trail when there are many more pressing matters at hand?
     
    Your last two questions are good but I am sorry to say I have no answers. This article’s message board is about dead but I am sure some other poster could answer them. Will have to wait  for the next article on this subject, or at a least fairly similiar one. Take care.

  • Anonymous

    Calling this writers boss in the morning. Very selective of what is flagged. Some can be abused and some not.

    p.s. I am not from Mass., however, your attitude is disgusting. It ranks right up there with your low IQ and EQ.

  • Anonymous

    Calling this writers boss in the morning. Very selective of what is flagged. Some can be abused and some not.

    p.s. I am not from Mass., however, your attitude is disgusting. It ranks right up there with your low IQ and EQ.

  • Anonymous

    Calling this writers boss in the morning. Very selective of what is flagged. Some can be abused and some not.

    p.s. I am not from Mass., however, your attitude is disgusting. It ranks right up there with your low IQ and EQ.

  • Anonymous

    Calling this writers boss in the morning. Very selective of what is flagged. Some can be abused and some not.

    p.s. I am not from Mass., however, your attitude is disgusting. It ranks right up there with your low IQ and EQ.

  • Anonymous

    You can barely write a sentence and you are going to judge others. Go play with your snowmobile.

  • Anonymous

    You can barely write a sentence and you are going to judge others. Go play with your snowmobile.

  • Anonymous

    You can barely write a sentence and you are going to judge others. Go play with your snowmobile.

  • Anonymous

    You can barely write a sentence and you are going to judge others. Go play with your snowmobile.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to hear that Hassenpheffer. It will be their loss if they don’t hire an intelligent individual like yourself. Best of luck though, sometimes the good guys do win. 

  • Anonymous

    Learn to spell just a little.

    Maybe you are just not capable of any complex thinking.

  • Anonymous

    Make sure you and your minions get the terminoligy correct.

  • Anonymous

    another Minion

  • Anonymous

    Yocal locals, around here they call each other “DINKS”.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, thank you for your  reply. 

    Of course the area needs jobs, tax dollars, and new ideas. Some people are stuck.

  • Anonymous

    Your welcome. Plus, there are two new articles, one on the mill and the other on Quimby buying more property. You might find the answers to your questions there… but it looks like there is a lot of bickering. Business as usual. Enter the fray at your own risk!

  • Anonymous

    I will bet it gets ugly.

  • yowsayowsa1

     Quimby doesn’t have to do the study.

     She’s paying the turnips in Medway to do it for her.

     I’m pretty sure that will be a document to read cover to cover. (If she lets them put it in writing).

  • yowsayowsa1

     For now, turnip.

  • yowsayowsa1

     Bangorian is another of the liberals sent here from so. New England to save us from ourselves.

     He is just one more in the long list that includes R. Quimby(Mass), Emily Cain(New Jersey), Cynthia Dill(Rhode Island) Bob Goldman, the yahoo that the Medway board of selectmen listened so raptly to(Mass), Charles Cirame (Mass).

  • yowsayowsa1

    Many, many dead moose,

    OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    that works both ways….!

  • Anonymous

    I was there !

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