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Bill would require paddlers to wear life jackets

The Rev. Bryan Breault, director of Pilgrim Lodge in West Gardiner, and camper Jamie Faunce of Gorham, paddle Pinkham Sound in August 2007. In the wake of multiple kayaker deaths this summer, State Rep. Richard Malaby of Hancock is proposing a new law that would require paddlers to wear life jackets while out on the water.
The Rev. Bryan Breault, director of Pilgrim Lodge in West Gardiner, and camper Jamie Faunce of Gorham, paddle Pinkham Sound in August 2007. In the wake of multiple kayaker deaths this summer, State Rep. Richard Malaby of Hancock is proposing a new law that would require paddlers to wear life jackets while out on the water.
Posted Sept. 14, 2011, at 4:35 p.m.
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ELLSWORTH, Maine — In the wake of multiple kayaker deaths this summer — three of them in Hancock County alone — a state lawmaker from that county is proposing a new law that would require paddlers to wear life jackets while out on the water.

Current state law, which applies to all boaters, requires that each vessel have enough personal floatation devices, or PFDs, on board for each person on that boat. However, state law does not require people on boats to be wearing PFDs unless they are 10 years old or younger. Federal law requires children 12 and under to wear PFDs when on a vessel in marine waters.

State Rep. Richard Malaby of the town of Hancock is submitting a bill that would require canoeists and kayakers of all ages, but not other boaters, to wear PFDs. People in rowboats, who typically are traveling short distances in harbors between shore and larger vessels, would be exempt.

Malaby said he submitted the bill last week as emergency legislation so that it could take effect by the time next summer’s tourism season starts. His goal, he said, is to help educate inexperienced boaters about the dangers of paddling out in Maine’s waters and the importance of wearing life jackets.

“[Some kayakers who have died] weren’t wearing them, but they didn’t understand the impact of hypothermia and 62-degree water,” Malaby said Monday. “It is the cold that gets them, I think.”

Malaby said life jackets won’t prevent hypothermia, but they can help keep people afloat after they become unconscious or their limbs go numb from fatigue and cold.

“They may not be conscious, but at least they might not drown,” he said.

Malaby acknowledged some people might argue that people should have a right to not wear PFDs if they don’t want to. But the bigger issue, Malaby said, is that many vacationers in Maine don’t know enough about the hazards of paddling to realize they should consider wearing life jackets.

“I do think there’s a need,” Malaby said. “I think it’s an educational issue.”

Wearing a life jacket is not a guarantee of survival if a canoe or kayak capsizes, but it can help mitigate the short-term effects of hypothermia or unrelated medical conditions that someone in the water might experience. Bodies of fresh water in Maine often remain relatively cold for months after ice melts at the end of winter, while ocean temperatures can remain below 60 degrees even in the middle of summer.

According to several scientific and water safety websites, people in water less than 60 degrees often become exhausted or unconscious from hypothermia after roughly an hour.

Lamoine resident Diane Sanderson is a constituent of Malaby’s who had a personal experience with a kayaker death earlier this summer. She was sailing with her family on Eastern Bay between Lamoine and Mount Desert Island on July 10 when Stratham, N.H., resident Steven Brooks died while kayaking nearby.

Sanderson, who encouraged Malaby to submit the bill, said a woman paddling with Brooks in another kayak screamed for help after Brooks capsized. She said she and her family sailed over to the couple to help, but that Brooks was unresponsive when they reached the kayakers and then pulled them into the sailboat.

Brooks was not wearing a PFD during the incident, but he may have suffered a medical condition that contributed to his kayak rolling over, officials said at the time.

Sanderson said Monday that, even if Brooks was having a medical condition, a life jacket may have helped. PFDs can help keep a person afloat after they start to suffer from hypothermia and lose their strength, she said.

“He was facedown in the water when we got there,” Sanderson said. “At least we might have gotten to him before he was mostly dead.”

The Lamoine woman said that if adopted, Malaby’s bill would help raise awareness among novice kayakers and canoeists about the dangers posed by going out on the water.

“We advertise on our license plates and everywhere that Maine is Vacationland,” Sanderson said. “I think there’s more education that needs to be done.”

In addition to Brooks’ death, Maine Marine Patrol has dealt with at least one other fatal kayaking accident this summer along Maine’s coast. In June, Eric Hogan of Webster, Mass., died during his honeymoon after he donned a PFD and shorts and then paddled out into windy conditions in Frenchman Bay.

Lt. Jonathan Cornish of Maine Marine Patrol said Wednesday afternoon that the state agency had been called to three fatal boating accidents in Maine in 2011. Besides the incidents involving Brooks and Hogan, there was one on southern Maine this spring, he said, but he did not have access on Wednesday to the details of the third accident.

Without commenting on Malaby’s proposal, Cornish said it is a good idea to wear a PFD while boating. He said Marine Patrol officers have to wear one at all times when they are on the water.

“It doesn’t matter how good a swimmer you are if you’re in cold water,” Cornish said. “It’s a real key to survival to have that on. We strongly encourage it.”

According to Lt. Nick Barrow of the U.S. Coast Guard, federal law requires that there be a PFD on board for each person that is on a boat. He said that children 12 years old or younger legally have to wear PFDs when they are on the water. In addition, if boaters are depending on PFDs that automatically inflate when they become submerged, boaters must be wearing those PFDs at all times when on a floating boat.

Barrow said that, aside from the issue of PFD usage, there is one thing that could make Coast Guard searches more effective. If kayakers marked their vessels with waterproof owner and contact information, the Coast Guard could determine more quickly whom it is they are looking for, he said.

“If we found [a marked kayak] adrift, we would have a lead to go on,” Barrow said.

Capt. Dan Scott of the Maine Warden Service said Tuesday that state wardens have dealt with five fatal boating accidents this summer that resulted in six deaths. Of those, three involved canoes or kayaks while the two others involved small boats, he said.

On June 3 a canoeist died while paddling on the Allagash River, according to Scott. The man who died was wearing a PFD when his canoe capsized near Churchill Lake in northern Piscataquis County. The man may have had a medical condition that contributed to his death before his adult son pulled him from the water, Scott said.

Later the same month, a man drowned while fishing from a canoe in York Pond in southern Maine. Scott said that man had a PFD with him at the time of the June 16 incident but was not wearing it.

On Aug. 9 on Beech Hill Pond in Hancock County, a tourist from Korea drowned after his kayak capsized approximately 300 feet from shore. He was not wearing a life jacket and tried to swim to shore before he disappeared under the water’s surface.

Two other fatal boating incidents this year that the Maine Warden Service dealt with this summer involved small boats other than canoes or kayaks.

A Linneus man drowned June 28 after the 12-foot, flat-bottomed aluminum boat he was operating sank in Deering Lake in the southern Aroostook County town of Weston. Nearly a month later, two men from Boston drowned in Lower Richardson Lake near the northern Oxford County town of Andover when they jumped into the water to swim off a 14-foot Lund fishing boat. In both these accidents, the drowning victims were not wearing PFDs and alcohol was considered a factor, according to wardens.

Scott said he has not seen the wording of Malaby’s bill and that it is too early in the process for the Maine Warden Service to comment on it. But he said, generally speaking, the warden service always encourages boaters to wear PFDs when they are out on the water.

Even for a person who considers himself or herself a good and healthy swimmer, he said, chilly temperatures and swift currents can prove deadly.

“We have unique water in Maine, because for much of the year it is very cold water,” Scott said.

Follow BDN Staff Reporter Bill Trotter on Twitter at billtrotter.

CORRECTION:

An earlier version of this story contained a typo in the photo caption. The Rev. Bryan Breault, is the director of Pilgrim Lodge which is in West Gardiner.

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  • Anonymous

    Common sense to wear one, but a law????????
    A life jacket doesn’t protect you against hypothermia..

  • Anonymous

    People in fresh/close water territories such as lakes should be exempt. This should only be directed towards those in ocean waters or tidal streams/rivers

  • Anonymous

    I wear a life jacket every time I get in a boat. But that is my personal decision. After my mother’s only brother drowned in a commercial fishing accident, when I was 14, the lesson was learned well, and that was 50 yrs ago.

    But how is our legislature going to legislate “common sense” into many of our visitors who do not know the hazards of the ocean, among other things.

    This past spring, a man took a sit-on kayak, suitable for a small lake on a hot summer day, and set out into Frenchman’s Bay with a 35 mph northwest wind going. Where was the common sense and how would the legislature impart such into people? Common sense seems to be the thing lacking.

    Last week a man went missing on Monhegan Island after exploring shore line caves, with several friends, while an absolutely vicious ocean swell was on due to an offshore storm. It is lucky that more of them were not lost. Again, common sense was the missing ingredient.

  • Anonymous

    This is sort of like the seat belt issue back in the sixties.  There were no laws requiring seat belts.  Some people voluntarily wore them and others felt it “too constraining”.  I always wear one and even wear an instantly inflatable PFD while fly fishing in rivers and streams where I an standing in a couple of feet of water.  I just took up kayaking and wouldn’t think of going out without wearing a PFD.  I would support this law.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1830222079 Brett Kirschbaum

    survival of the fittest if you are too stupid to know you should wear a live jacket when in a boat then if you die your own fault.   wish they would stop trying to tell us how to live, it is still a free country and i should be able to make some decisions.    

  • Cuddles O’donovan

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  • Anonymous

    So why isn’t this more nanny state, big government regulation, too,  Rep. Richard Malaby ?

    I not saying it might not be a good idea, but so might regulating the banksters, all the too big to fail corporate “people” and polluters too.

    So how do Republians pick and choose which are the politically correct big government regulations that they’ll sponser instead of letting the free market or individuals decide ?

  • Anonymous

    The difference here is that other drivers on the road can act in a negligent manner, thus compromising your safety against your will.  In a kayak, your safety is up to you.  I would not support this law, just as I wouldn’t support a mandatory bicycle helmet law.  Government is a poor arbiter in matters of an individual’s personal safety and acceptance of risk.

  • Anonymous

    true enough.  but it’s usually a government employee, (police, FF, coast guard) that spend hours looking for the body or wiping up the mess.  

  • Anonymous

    you are correct.  however it gives you a fighting change to survive (and be rescued) instead of struggling to keep your head above water and using up what energy you have left.  uscg stats say that over 70% of drowning fatalities occur within 6 feet of safety. 
    2010 uscg stats – of all the boating fatalities that were caused by drowning, 90 percent were not wearing life jackets.

  • clamcove

    Its folks  that are too stupid to wear them that cause all the endless hours of searching. We waste so much time on these kayakers, perhaps they ought to be outlawed. I’m tired of paying the bill.

  • clamcove

    Agreed, but why is it called common sense when its so rare?

  • Anonymous

    Sen Malaby should know that the GOP does not legislate “Nanny” laws. Leave that to the democrats.

  • Anonymous

    Education is the key.

    Paddlers should wear life jackets.

    I always wear one when paddling.

    But don’t make it a law.  How will it be enforced?  Shall we clog up the courts with cases involving violators?

    And where is the logic?  If Jay can row across the lake without a life jacket, and Jim   can swim across the lake without a life jacket, why should John be fined for kayaking across the same lake without a lifejacket?

  • Anonymous

    Interesting that many people on this thread don’t want the law to require they be worn.  I have a boat that’s about 8 feet wide and 17 feet long.  I have life jackets  on board as required by law and I don’t usually wear them unless the lake is rough, but I always keep it at my feet along with a throw-float cushion.  Canoes and Kayaks are very unstable compared to my boat.  It is indeed common sense to wear a life jacket…but unfortunately some people do not have much common sense and don’t wear them in personal water craft.  It is true that hypothermia is a problem, even with a life jacket, but if you are wearing one and end up in the water there is a better chance someone will come along to save you if you can’t swim to shore before hypothermia sets in.

  • Anonymous

    Need common sense, and maybe a heads up for innkeepers, but not a law.  This could be ridiculous for many lakes and streams.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, and if this nanny state law goes through it must require all of these “paddlers” to buy a $20.00 registration sticker for their vessels for “enforcement”.

  • Anonymous

    Every time I go boating, I wear my PFD (that’s the politically correct term for a life vest). Things can happen very fast, and when they do, it’s a bad time to be trying to locate and adorn the PDF. I once heard that they’ve never had to dig someone off the bottom of the river/lake who is wearing a life jacket.  But, I would never support a law to make an adult wear one. 

  • Anonymous

    One can drown just as quick in a lake. I’d still not support any law requiring something that  common sense should dictate. 

  • Anonymous

    you cannot legislate common sense.  however, many needless deaths could be prevented.  according to uscg statistic (2010) of all the boating fatalities in the US, 70% were from drowning.  Of those that drowned, 90% WERE NOT wearing life jackets. 

    life jackets do not protect you from hypothermia, however, they will keep your head above water and increase your chance of survival by not expending more energy. they will definitely increase your chances of being alive when rescued. statistics show (Canada Lifesaving Society) that on average drowning victims were only 6-12 feet away from safety

    “remember the: one – ten – one rule.when falling in the water unexpectedly
    you have one minute to get your breathing under control
    10 minutes for meaningful movement
    1 hour before the effects of hypothermia sets in. (this is for 50 degree water)”
       (Cold Water Boot Camp  Video – sponsored by the USCG)

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I am still angry over the seatbelt law. I like to do things simply because I want to, not because I am forced to. Common sense and stubborness often clash with deadly consequences.

  • Anonymous

    I agree not in lakes and warmer waters. the argument is that in the colder water you become hypothermic, and this is not the case in these waters, at least not most of the time. The argument is also that out of staters don’t understand the risks, so maybe the out of staters should be the ones that need to by law where them, where we don’t

  • Anonymous

    I dont wear one while fishing, but I have a kayak and I wear one..

  • http://www.facebook.com/Maine.Scallywag Kevin McGarry

    Oh excellent, more laws! Hell what will they regulate next? Give me a  break!

  • Anonymous

    The government should not be allowed to tell us what to do when it comes to ones own personal safety, ever. People must be held accountable to themselves.  Accidents happen so why not legislate a “no accident” law. That way accidents will never happen and no one will ever get hurt irregardless of the situation. Easily enforceable, no?  Neither is stupidity. As to the posts regarding the money to pay for search and rescues…consider it job (creation) security for people in that field for training in case someone deserving needs their help.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_57XSD7IQNMUH4AC24E7NDNCB3Q tony b

    common sense wether u can swim likea fish or not…wear a damn life preserver!! it saves lives!! i think this law is a great idea!

  • Anonymous

    people don’t realize that you can become hypothermic in even “Warm” waters.
    for example in 50 degree water it take about 1 hour.  68 to 72 degree waters it takes anywheres from 1.5 to 2 hours.  again taking this info from uscg statistics

  • me in me

    Another LAW to  protect us from ourselves. What the hell would we all do without laws telling us how to live our lives??  Why not  have a law for winter safety?  We must need a law for those stupid people that go out in freezing weather without hats or coats (talk about hypothermia!) Or if there is any chance of ice being underfoot,well there should be a law to require spiked footwear and helmets. Just think of the time you would save EMTs and ambulances . They wouldn’t have to deal with hurt backs or cracked skulls..  Where does it end??    
      I carry a lifevest when kayaking and depending on conditions and the body of water that  I am in, I may or may not wear it. If it becomes a law , I still will decide when to wear it.  How about the  state reps go to work on something important and let us live our lives without making all of the common sense laws.

  • Anonymous

    Good move. It will same some moron’s lfie and reduce the cost of rescur and recovery efforts.

  • Anonymous

    YOU are the type that needs to have law protect you after a less-than-intelligent statement like that.

  • Anonymous

    No Way,  We kayak and enjoy  not having to wear the protection even though we carry it… carry it should be the law, not wearing.  a

  • Anonymous

    It should not be a requirement to have to wear a life jacket while paddling.  Having it in the boat is enough.

  • Anonymous

    but if it takes that long, then you should have time to get your pfd that should have been inside your kayak, where as if it is quick, then you don’t have time. thats the difference. we don’t need more babysitting rules.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…and it’s still ok for people riding motorcycles to not wear helmets!?!

  • Anonymous

    I wear one.. Pay attention…. You dont need a law telling someone to wear one. Common sense.. And again, pay attention before you open your mouth, Copy…

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    i am against the whole nanny state thing but actually support this law. as my dad always asked me, “have you ever seen a body that has drowned? would you want to be the one to find it?”

  • MARINE73

    Here we go again, more government legislation to tell us what we should or shouldn’t do!  We don’t need a law to tell people to wear PFD’s!  Let people make their own decisions, Augusta!  This is ridiculous.  Why not go the distance and require anybody near a body of water, or thinking about going near a body of water, to be wearing a government-approved wet suit to ensure if they fall in, they will be able to survive the temperature of the water and not drown.  Better yet, why don’t you pass a law to make everyone live in a bubble?  That way we will never be injured by  what Augusta perceives as our inability to take care of ourselves.    Stop the spreading arm of government and stay out of my canoe!   

    Our elected officials in Augusta have too much time on their hands.  Let’s pass a law by citizen referendum to reduce the time when the legislature is in session to once a year for one month.  Any important business can be handled in a month.  We need to stop the spread of government control in our daily lives. 

  • Anonymous

    This requirement seems completely arbitrary to me, especially when I consider the number of half-wits riding around on motorcycles without helmets.

  • Anonymous

    More laws and regulations that are unneeded. If a person is stupid enough not to wear one in these cold waters that’s their choice to be stupid.

  • Anonymous

    Maine legislators.  Restricting Mainer’s rights in order to keep tourists alive since 1820.

  • Anonymous

    Some people need to be told what to do, cant live with out the government pampering them.

  • Anonymous

    Some people need to be told what to do, cant live with out the government pampering them.

  • Anonymous

    A PFD is not a life jacket. The difference is that a life jacket will keep you floating on your back, face up, if you are unconscious.  A life jacket has the big collar thingie on back, which becomes a pillow under your head if needed.

  • Anonymous

    A PFD is not a life jacket. The difference is that a life jacket will keep you floating on your back, face up, if you are unconscious.  A life jacket has the big collar thingie on back, which becomes a pillow under your head if needed.

  • Anonymous

    IMHO….  they state repeadly its the cold… well then require drysuit usage by all ocean going small craft. pfds do not save lives in cold water they prolong suffering.

  • Anonymous

    IMHO….  they state repeadly its the cold… well then require drysuit usage by all ocean going small craft. pfds do not save lives in cold water they prolong suffering.

  • Anonymous

    A PFD is not a life jacket. The difference is that a life jacket will keep you floating on your back, face up, if you are unconscious.
    This proposed law is well intentioned, but misguided. We always wear our PFD’s when

  • Anonymous

    A PFD is not a life jacket. The difference is that a life jacket will keep you floating on your back, face up, if you are unconscious.
    This proposed law is well intentioned, but misguided. We always wear our PFD’s when

  • Anonymous

    Too many rules anyhow. If I wanted everything to be illegal I’d move to Massachusetts or Connecticut! No life jackets thins out the population anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Too many rules anyhow. If I wanted everything to be illegal I’d move to Massachusetts or Connecticut! No life jackets thins out the population anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Couple of years back when I was kayaking the Assabet river in Concord Mass I took the Kayak thru
    the middle of a breached dam. It was March and snow was still on the ground. Well you know what happened. When I capsized and hit the water I attempted to pull a Peter Sellers in the movie BEING THERE  , you know the movie where Sellers walked on water. see
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMCeidJ8bg
    Bottom line is I could never get high enough out of the water to start walking on it.
    My life jacket came in handy as my body went into shock , very similar to the feelings I get from politicians.
    I support this legislation to require mandatory life vests for boaters in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Couple of years back when I was kayaking the Assabet river in Concord Mass I took the Kayak thru
    the middle of a breached dam. It was March and snow was still on the ground. Well you know what happened. When I capsized and hit the water I attempted to pull a Peter Sellers in the movie BEING THERE  , you know the movie where Sellers walked on water. see
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMCeidJ8bg
    Bottom line is I could never get high enough out of the water to start walking on it.
    My life jacket came in handy as my body went into shock , very similar to the feelings I get from politicians.
    I support this legislation to require mandatory life vests for boaters in Maine.

  • http://www.michigal.net Sue

    You are absolutely incorrect. A PFD (Personal Flotation Device) IS a life jacket. Now stop posting this nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    It’s all common sense. If you reread the article, it is mentioned in most situations that there were contributing factors…..one of the most important factor being stupidity in my book. I am an avid kayaker and kayak almost on a daily basis, and I, firsthand, check the weather, the conditions, the location, the temperature, the wind…..many of these things, seen in advance, will well warn those who are ready to embark on a trip to begin with. Wearing a life jacket is just common knowledge….especially if the conditions warrant any “out of the norm” circumstances. I always have a life jacket in open water, but in streams and small rivers, I have it within reach…..AND again, I check all factors before paddling……I don’t think it will pass as a law……….maybe if you are renting the kayak and it’s a liability thing…

  • Anonymous

    It’s all common sense. If you reread the article, it is mentioned in most situations that there were contributing factors…..one of the most important factor being stupidity in my book. I am an avid kayaker and kayak almost on a daily basis, and I, firsthand, check the weather, the conditions, the location, the temperature, the wind…..many of these things, seen in advance, will well warn those who are ready to embark on a trip to begin with. Wearing a life jacket is just common knowledge….especially if the conditions warrant any “out of the norm” circumstances. I always have a life jacket in open water, but in streams and small rivers, I have it within reach…..AND again, I check all factors before paddling……I don’t think it will pass as a law……….maybe if you are renting the kayak and it’s a liability thing…

  • Anonymous

    How about if you are drunk and stupid you have to wear a PFD. Oh if your drunk and stupid your not going to wear a PFD what ever the law. So let’s not burden the rest of us with this foolishness.

  • Anonymous

    How about if you are drunk and stupid you have to wear a PFD. Oh if your drunk and stupid your not going to wear a PFD what ever the law. So let’s not burden the rest of us with this foolishness.

  • Anonymous

    Who’s to say this isn’t hell, it may be better on the other side. leave me alone

  • Anonymous

    No need to be rude or insulting, by referring to my comment as nonsense, and giving orders. Perhaps this resource will help to clarify:
    http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=15198&tid=024

  • Anonymous

    No need to be rude or insulting, by referring to my comment as nonsense, and giving orders. Perhaps this resource will help to clarify:
    http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=15198&tid=024

  • Anonymous

    People die every year swimming in these same lakes and rivers, so we better make a law requiring them have life jackets too.  Can’t enforce this law without more tax money, so swimmers will need to be licensed every year to avoid a fine.

  • Anonymous

    People die every year swimming in these same lakes and rivers, so we better make a law requiring them have life jackets too.  Can’t enforce this law without more tax money, so swimmers will need to be licensed every year to avoid a fine.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    If he was proposing a law about kids wearing them, I would think about it. Grownups can decide for themselves. The drunk ones will kill themselves no matter what we tell them to do. I always liked to wear one because I’m not a good swimmer. I feel better about standing up or leaning over the side because I wear one.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    If he was proposing a law about kids wearing them, I would think about it. Grownups can decide for themselves. The drunk ones will kill themselves no matter what we tell them to do. I always liked to wear one because I’m not a good swimmer. I feel better about standing up or leaning over the side because I wear one.

  • PabMainer

    Well said and good link….thank you…..

  • PabMainer

    Well said and good link….thank you…..

  • Anonymous

    Let us decide!  I would never go on the ocean in a kayak without a life jacket, however when I’m paddling around the lake in 6 inches of water, I do not want a bulky, hot life jacket on.  Let us use our common sense.  Those who don’t pay.  Please, please don’t make another law to ‘keep us safe’.  We’re quickly becoming a police state. 

  • Anonymous

    Let us decide!  I would never go on the ocean in a kayak without a life jacket, however when I’m paddling around the lake in 6 inches of water, I do not want a bulky, hot life jacket on.  Let us use our common sense.  Those who don’t pay.  Please, please don’t make another law to ‘keep us safe’.  We’re quickly becoming a police state. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BE5K4BY6CK2TFMMTWIM5B22ZOE David

    As soon as motorcyclists have to wear helmets, I’ll be for this law. Until then, no.

    Same with seatbelts.

    What’s good for the goose yadayadayada

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BE5K4BY6CK2TFMMTWIM5B22ZOE David

    As soon as motorcyclists have to wear helmets, I’ll be for this law. Until then, no.

    Same with seatbelts.

    What’s good for the goose yadayadayada

  • http://mcgowan.asia James McGowan

    Can we get a Fishing exemption, for people actively moored or fishing, a PFD on the deck is understandable, but it is not comfortable or enjoyable to fish while wearing one.

  • http://mcgowan.asia James McGowan

    Can we get a Fishing exemption, for people actively moored or fishing, a PFD on the deck is understandable, but it is not comfortable or enjoyable to fish while wearing one.

  • Anonymous

    As long as we the tax payers are paying the bill, wear the damn things. You players all want the services but want it for nothing. You abuse common sense, you should pay.

  • Anonymous

    As long as we the tax payers are paying the bill, wear the damn things. You players all want the services but want it for nothing. You abuse common sense, you should pay.

  • Anonymous

    Even if you die from hypothermia, they will find your body a lot faster and cheaper.

  • Anonymous

    Even if you die from hypothermia, they will find your body a lot faster and cheaper.

  • Anonymous

    There absolutly should be a helmet law. Again, the tax payers end up paying the life-long nursing home and medical bills.  No, your insurance runs out in about three months of  a serious head injury. Check for yourself.

  • Anonymous

    There absolutly should be a helmet law. Again, the tax payers end up paying the life-long nursing home and medical bills.  No, your insurance runs out in about three months of  a serious head injury. Check for yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, that statement takes the cake. LOL

  • Anonymous

    Wow, that statement takes the cake. LOL

  • Anonymous

    Email the Senator your thoughts

    RepRichard.Malaby@legislature.maine.gov

  • Anonymous

    Email the Senator your thoughts

    RepRichard.Malaby@legislature.maine.gov

  • Anonymous

    While sitting out on a calm pond fly fishing all day I should not be required by law to wear a life jacket. This is the type of subject that the government needs to stay out of.  I know that I am an excellent swimmer and will not strike my head and become unconscious  while fishing. Bottom line here is that it should be based on education and awareness, not the government forcing me to wear one. 

  • Anonymous

    If people would just use there head and wear one they wouldn’t have to make it a law. But  the reality is there are people out there that think its cool to not wear seat belts and life jackets. There’s always that drunk person who thinks its cool to drive a boat or a snow mobile or a car. thats why they have to make these laws. I know, its awful that state makes laws to save  peoples lives. but i guess whether its a law or not we are always gonna have stupid people in the world who wont think before there actions.  hopefully the laws will put people in jail that do this so the smarter people don’t have to die in one of there accidents.

  • Anonymous

    If people would just use there head and wear one they wouldn’t have to make it a law. But  the reality is there are people out there that think its cool to not wear seat belts and life jackets. There’s always that drunk person who thinks its cool to drive a boat or a snow mobile or a car. thats why they have to make these laws. I know, its awful that state makes laws to save  peoples lives. but i guess whether its a law or not we are always gonna have stupid people in the world who wont think before there actions.  hopefully the laws will put people in jail that do this so the smarter people don’t have to die in one of there accidents.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1083833888 Peter Hilton

    A life jacket is no protection against hypothermia.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1083833888 Peter Hilton

    A life jacket is no protection against hypothermia.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1083833888 Peter Hilton

    A life jacket is no protection against hypothermia.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1083833888 Peter Hilton

    A life jacket is no protection against hypothermia.

  • Anonymous

    There are more deaths and injuries annually due to motorcycle accidents, yet we do not require the wearing of a helmet.  There are a few deaths of kayakers and suddenly they need a law!!  Stop trying to dictate how everyone lives.

  • Anonymous

    There are more deaths and injuries annually due to motorcycle accidents, yet we do not require the wearing of a helmet.  There are a few deaths of kayakers and suddenly they need a law!!  Stop trying to dictate how everyone lives.

  • Anonymous

    There are more deaths and injuries annually due to motorcycle accidents, yet we do not require the wearing of a helmet.  There are a few deaths of kayakers and suddenly they need a law!!  Stop trying to dictate how everyone lives.

  • Anonymous

    There are more deaths and injuries annually due to motorcycle accidents, yet we do not require the wearing of a helmet.  There are a few deaths of kayakers and suddenly they need a law!!  Stop trying to dictate how everyone lives.

  • Anonymous

    yeah i work on ships that run straight through major storms under Gov orders if i have to wear a (PFD) life jacket in a canoe on a pond less then 6 ft deep. Also what the limits on it the USCG makes us where these huge puffy things that make it hard to do any thing in. Next they’ll have emersion suits for swimming

  • Anonymous

    yeah i work on ships that run straight through major storms under Gov orders if i have to wear a (PFD) life jacket in a canoe on a pond less then 6 ft deep. Also what the limits on it the USCG makes us where these huge puffy things that make it hard to do any thing in. Next they’ll have emersion suits for swimming

  • Anonymous

    yeah i work on ships that run straight through major storms under Gov orders if i have to wear a (PFD) life jacket in a canoe on a pond less then 6 ft deep. Also what the limits on it the USCG makes us where these huge puffy things that make it hard to do any thing in. Next they’ll have emersion suits for swimming

  • Anonymous

    yeah i work on ships that run straight through major storms under Gov orders if i have to wear a (PFD) life jacket in a canoe on a pond less then 6 ft deep. Also what the limits on it the USCG makes us where these huge puffy things that make it hard to do any thing in. Next they’ll have emersion suits for swimming

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Shouldn’t we have to wear one whenever we are fishing from a dock or a bridge? What about hot tubs?

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Shouldn’t we have to wear one whenever we are fishing from a dock or a bridge? What about hot tubs?

  • Anonymous

    Amen! That is exactly what I was thinking as well. Who would go out on the ocean in a kayak without a life jacket on? NO common sense indeed. I never would. However, we spend a lot of time paddling around the shore by the camp on a pond as well. I do not wear a PFD then.  I have also taught my children as well, to stick to the shoreline, even though you are wearing a jacket. I don’t ever let them stray to far from shore unless we are out as a group. Even then we might not cross straight through the widest part of the pond. Also to be pointed out, not all approved PFD’s are the same. Many that are used by kayakers will do absolutely no good once you lose consciousness. Your face will roll over in the water and you’ll drown anyway. It can help you stay afloat longer when exhaustion sets in, but still we are not talking hours added to life, just hoping it would be long enough for someone to find you and haul you in. Also the point made about finding you dead or alive is an important one to me. 

  • Anonymous

    Amen! That is exactly what I was thinking as well. Who would go out on the ocean in a kayak without a life jacket on? NO common sense indeed. I never would. However, we spend a lot of time paddling around the shore by the camp on a pond as well. I do not wear a PFD then.  I have also taught my children as well, to stick to the shoreline, even though you are wearing a jacket. I don’t ever let them stray to far from shore unless we are out as a group. Even then we might not cross straight through the widest part of the pond. Also to be pointed out, not all approved PFD’s are the same. Many that are used by kayakers will do absolutely no good once you lose consciousness. Your face will roll over in the water and you’ll drown anyway. It can help you stay afloat longer when exhaustion sets in, but still we are not talking hours added to life, just hoping it would be long enough for someone to find you and haul you in. Also the point made about finding you dead or alive is an important one to me. 

  • Anonymous

    Amen! That is exactly what I was thinking as well. Who would go out on the ocean in a kayak without a life jacket on? NO common sense indeed. I never would. However, we spend a lot of time paddling around the shore by the camp on a pond as well. I do not wear a PFD then.  I have also taught my children as well, to stick to the shoreline, even though you are wearing a jacket. I don’t ever let them stray to far from shore unless we are out as a group. Even then we might not cross straight through the widest part of the pond. Also to be pointed out, not all approved PFD’s are the same. Many that are used by kayakers will do absolutely no good once you lose consciousness. Your face will roll over in the water and you’ll drown anyway. It can help you stay afloat longer when exhaustion sets in, but still we are not talking hours added to life, just hoping it would be long enough for someone to find you and haul you in. Also the point made about finding you dead or alive is an important one to me. 

  • Anonymous

    Amen! That is exactly what I was thinking as well. Who would go out on the ocean in a kayak without a life jacket on? NO common sense indeed. I never would. However, we spend a lot of time paddling around the shore by the camp on a pond as well. I do not wear a PFD then.  I have also taught my children as well, to stick to the shoreline, even though you are wearing a jacket. I don’t ever let them stray to far from shore unless we are out as a group. Even then we might not cross straight through the widest part of the pond. Also to be pointed out, not all approved PFD’s are the same. Many that are used by kayakers will do absolutely no good once you lose consciousness. Your face will roll over in the water and you’ll drown anyway. It can help you stay afloat longer when exhaustion sets in, but still we are not talking hours added to life, just hoping it would be long enough for someone to find you and haul you in. Also the point made about finding you dead or alive is an important one to me. 

  • Anonymous

    Prolongs suffering?  

    Then why not carry a waterproof pistol and take yourself out, to minimize the suffering????

    Sheesh.

    Seriously, the more time (1 minute, 10 minute, 1 hour–see above from ishcable, 5:51 PM) you have available to be saved the better your chances of survival.   I understand dying in cold (air/water) is a relatively painless death, you just drift off…

  • Anonymous

    And write YOUR OWN Rep and Senator and encourage them to sign on and support the strongest possible legislation!    

    http://legislature.maine.gov/house/townlist.htm

    I am all for legislation of this type, but I do think it is a mistake to exempt rowboats.  I am not sure if power boats will also be exempt, but these should be included in the legislation.

    Big swells, a sudden gust, a swinging boom on a sail boat, none discriminate, if you are capsized or hit in the head, a PDF “on board” does you no good.  It is much like having seat belts in a car and not wearing them–”I will put it on it case of an emergency…”  Too late!

    Try finding your PDF after capsizing, it may be under the boat.  Try getting into it in 60 degree water!Wear the damn things, stay alive.

  • Anonymous

    that has always been one of the biggest arguments about not wearing a life jacket.
    however, when one goes into the water unexpectedly they suffer what is called the “cold water shock response.”  this is an involuntary reaction where one opens their mouth. if you inhale one liter  of water or more into your lungs you are a goner.  furthermore, after the shock of falling into the water,  it is very hard if not near impossible trying to put a life jacket on while in the water.  hands and fingers stiffen up very rapidly. that large zipper looks so easy to operate it on land but try it in cold water.

    inflatable life jackets may be just the ticket for comfort and convenience.  it will inflate automatically as soon  as you hit the water.  this may be the best of both worlds.  sure they cost more but i have yet to hear from anyone whose life was saved complaining how expensive it was, they were  just glad they had it.

    finally, this one simple act will not only save your life but consider your loved ones. I have yet to talk to any drowning victims’ family bragging that their loved one was not wearing a life jacket at the time so they could be free and independent. 

            

  • Anonymous

    We have too damn many laws. Most of them don’t do anything to improve health, safety, or quality of life. If I need you sniffing my behind to see if I wear a life jacket I’ll let you know. Otherwise, scrrewoff.

  • Anonymous

    If I fall out of my Kayak and drown, leave me there and mind your own damn business. I don’t need Nanny MccFee sniffing my butt. There should be a law against people making so many frigging stupid laws that a man wants to move to a different country to be free. Yeah, I said it, and unfortunately I meant it. I’m not helping Maine with it’s job situation if this kind of Nanny State crap is going to continue. Go Home Nanny State losers.

  • Anonymous

    Malaby Nanny Pants Panty Waste boo diddly hoo. When you drown cause your poor little fanny falls off your canoe, let us know. If I fall out of my Kayak and drown, leave me there and mind your own damn business. I don’t need Nanny MccFee sniffing my butt. There should be a law against people making so many frigging stupid laws that a man wants to move to a different country to be free. Yeah, I said it, and unfortunately I meant it. I’m not helping Maine with it’s job situation if this kind of Nanny State crap is going to continue. Go Home Nanny State losers.

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    I agree only I may go a bit further, If your so stupid you don’t know when to put on a life jacket then stay on the shore and sun yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Good  Job!!   It is time the the people of this sissy State that do have some commonn sence  start talking. . This bill is the stupidist thing I have seen come out of Disgusta for a while. Leave Us Alone.  Just Leave Us Alone.

  • Anonymous

    Do you wear rubber training pants too?

  • Anonymous

    Thats what their paid for.

  • Anonymous

    Who is this Malaby clown anyway. Does it have any idea what it is talking about?  This the stupidist thing I have ever heard of. I spend 4 out of 5 days a week in a canoe. I have worn a life jacket before because I was scared too death. Thats called common sence. All I can say is go ahead. I for one will wear one when I feel I need too. I bet this Malaby joker  wears a Sponge Bob inner tube around its waste when at the beach. Why don’t the politicaians do something worth while instead of embarassing us.

  • Anonymous

    Once again, big brother is watching. It’s impossible to remove stupidity through legislation. Oh, but wait. We did get rid of our Helmet Law. More stupiidity.

  • Anonymous

    Once again, big brother is watching. It’s impossible to remove stupidity through legislation. Oh, but wait. We did get rid of our Helmet Law. More stupiidity.

  • Anonymous

    wear a life jacket what to hell.
    not reqired to wear a helmet on a motorcycle.
    Voteing no on the poll

  • Anonymous

    Keep on wasting time and money. How about a decent minimum wage for folks.

  • Anonymous

    exactly my point.

  • Anonymous

    this bill is a no brainer should of had it years ago

  • Anonymous

    “Its folks that are too stupid”

    Love it.  Go on.  Do. 

  • Anonymous

    Can I like that a few more times?

  • Anonymous

    Anyone kayaking in cold tidal waters should definitely be wearing a floatation device.  If anyone goes in the water, other than the cold water, there is too much against them, the currents, winds, waves, tides, etc.  Ponds, rivers, streams should be left alone and to the discretion and good sense of the
    paddler. 

  • Anonymous

    My teenage son says the same thing,

  • Anonymous

    i have always had an isssue with the pfd law or having to have a lifejacket in a boat but not having to wear it. i mean come on, that is like forcing someone to have seatbelts in a vehicle but not having to wear them, what good is that? when you are in a boat, it is not like you see the accident coming, next thing you know the boat has been swamped and you are panicking from the cold water and have lost sight of your life jacket, then what??? it is the stupidest law, if you are going to force the paddler to have them in the boat, force them to wear it. this way you do not waste the taxpayers money having to ply the lakes looking for a dead body that the could have lived. it really is a no brainer. i don’t like being told what to do with this stuff too but just like seatbelts you have to force them to wear it.

  • Anonymous

    I am in favor of this bill.  However, it is discriminatory.  This bill should include a mandate that occupants of canoes, kayaks, and other small craft (including Personal Watercraft, row boats and sailboats) less than 17′ in length be required to wear lifejackets.

    Gerald M. Dworkin, Consultant
    Aquatics Safety & Water Rescue
    LIFESAVING RESOURCES LLC
    http://www.lifesaving.com
    PO Box 3006
    Kennebunkport, ME 04046
    207/967-8614
    gerald@lifesaving.com

  • Anonymous

    I know about accidental drownings and such and how the body responds to cold water.  I am a lifeguard as well as having had multiple wilderness first responder and first aid courses through the years.  Wearing a life jacket is a personal responsibility that should not be mandated by others.  Anyone that paddles whether they are new or pros to the sport should know their limits, if you are going to do something high risk like white water wear the life jacket.  If I’m trolling from a canoe on glass, I’m not wearing it, I’ll carry it in the boat but I won’t wear it.  If I’m out on the water and the wind picks up and the waves start going, I’ll put it on.  It’s a common sense thing.  I think that a large part of the accidents that happen to anyone is that they aren’t educated about paddling sports enough.  Doesn’t help that sit on top kayaks are commonly rented out to people that will be on the ocean.  

  • Anonymous

    but it does keep your head above water, usually so last i knew you will live longer with you head above water than below unless you have an air tank on.

  • Anonymous

    bingo! you hit it on the head! (no pun intended) if we the people are going to have to pay for the people that have no common sense to wear helmets, seatbelts or pfd, then we will have to tell them what to do to keep them safe. sorry i don’t like new laws too but we have oui laws to tell the drunks how much them can drink so you know you can’t fix stupid.

  • Anonymous

    ok then require everyone to have a life insurance of let’s say 100,000 and if they fall in a lake without a pfd  the insurance would go to the state to pay to help find their bodies

  • Anonymous

    And what would that be?

  • Anonymous

    “We have too damn many laws. Most of them don’t do anything to improve health, safety, or quality of life.”

    Would you please explain how a law that requires you to wear a PFD does NOT improve your safety while paddling?

  • Anonymous

    I never realized you could only drown in salt water.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul would say,  ”Libertarians do NOT support more laws that infringe on people’s Constitutional rights.” MIchele Bachman would say, “Wearing life jackets causes mental retardation.” Rick Perry would say, “Let ‘em die!” Mr Cain would say, “What’s kayaking?” Nute the fluke would say, “They don’t make life jackets big enough to go around me.” Rick Santorum would say, “Let’s pray over it.” (while believing he could walk on water). Gov Romney would say, “Teach them to roll!”   There you have it!

  • Anonymous

    I completely agree about never being able to legislate common sense and as a taxpayer in Hancock County I strongly object to Rep. Malaby wasting my tax dollars on this foolishness.  Anyone who chooses to get into any type of watercraft without a lifejacket takes his/her life in thier own hands. 

  • Anonymous

    No more Government telling us what to do…

  • Anonymous

    No more Government telling us what to do…

  • Anonymous

    No more Government telling us what to do…

  • Anonymous

    No more Government telling us what to do…

  • Anonymous

    No more Government telling us what to do…

  • Anonymous

    No more Government telling us what to do…

  • Anonymous

    No more Government telling us what to do…

  • Anonymous

    The good Representative is great in the kitchen, proposing legislation to restrict individual freedoms in order to protect us from ourselves?…errr…no.

  • Anonymous

    The good Representative is great in the kitchen, proposing legislation to restrict individual freedoms in order to protect us from ourselves?…errr…no.

  • Anonymous

    The good Representative is great in the kitchen, proposing legislation to restrict individual freedoms in order to protect us from ourselves?…errr…no.

  • Anonymous

    The good Representative is great in the kitchen, proposing legislation to restrict individual freedoms in order to protect us from ourselves?…errr…no.

  • Anonymous

    The good Representative is great in the kitchen, proposing legislation to restrict individual freedoms in order to protect us from ourselves?…errr…no.

  • Anonymous

    Well put!

  • Anonymous

    Well put!

  • Anonymous

    Well put!

  • Anonymous

    Well put!

  • Anonymous

    Well put!

  • Anonymous

    Well put!

  • Anonymous

    You can’t legislate something like “common sense”, when it’s already been bred out of our species.

  • Anonymous

    Now, wait a minute.  I thought only D’s would propose nanny laws.  Isn’t Malaby an R?  Aren’t R’s suppose to be for smaller government?  What gives here?

  • Anonymous

    Once again government rares it ugly head and attempts to rule every aspect of daily life. At what point does this trype of thought cease?

  • Anonymous

    I have a question, if the state is going to require the wearing of PFD’s why are they not requiring the wearing of helmets for motorcycles, ATVs and snowmobiles? What is the difference?

  • Anonymous

    Dear government hacks,

     LEAVE US ALONE!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Whats next , make a law that I have to wear steel toe boots cutting fire wood in my back yard ?

  • Anonymous

    Next the nanny state madates – motorcycle helmets, helmets for all bikers, helmets for all hiking,  gloves and safety glasses for all work that could cause a cut or debris in eye, No canoing or kayaking without a guide, or a permit, or a training certificate, pFDS for all in any kind of boat. Lobsterman in row boats and while working after all if you are an employee in most workplaces you would be required to were a PFD on or even near the water, no four wheelers without seat belts and cabs.

    First like the seat belt law it will be secondary , then it will be primary, then when some talk of repeal the issue of revenue will come up and theories of the lives saved.

    Freedoms passing away one by one

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.leeman Brian Leeman

    Well done!!

  • Anonymous

    Then it should include anything that floats including innertubes and rubber duckies. Also the law should apply to home pools and wading tubs. Game wardens should be allowed to raid homes parties and give summons to any skinny dippers.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know why more people don’t realize that there are two legitimate sides to this argument. One side wants to save lives and money. The other side wants to preserve an individual’s freedom to make decisions regarding prudent safety practices. Seat belts, helmets and PDFs save lives, prevent the suffering of loved ones, and reduce rescue and emergency costs. Society as a whole has an interest in this. At the same time, people naturally resent being told what to do. But is your freedom really compromised by being required to wear a seatbelt in a car? A helmet on a motorcycle? A PDF in a kayak? How severely? There are many things you can’t do in this free society. I don’t have the freedom to smoke a doobie on my back porch, for example. Do I agree with that law? No. Does it constitute tyranny? Hardly.

  • Vannessa

    I believe that if motorcyclists are not required to wear a helmet, then drivers should not be required to wear a seat belt.

  • Anonymous

    If this goes into pass,  we can do away with all those positions.  These people only get paid when they are searching for a missing boater.

  • Anonymous

    I think you just “paddled” Sues behind!

  • Anonymous

    “why should John be fined for kayaking across the same lake without a lifejacket?”

    If some people are so politically opposed to even logical tax increases,
    even as they claim balancing the budget is the solution to all ills,  
    the need to raise government funds, in their brave new world,  
    must be done with fines and law enforsement,
    the only part of the government they would not cut to the bone, may-be ?

    Who said to connect the dots ?
    It is the only way to understand the details and the totality of  the conservative corporate sponsered agenda.

  • Anonymous

    VP Biden would say “George Washington’s troops wore life jackets while crossing the Delaware.” President Obama would say “Who’s George Washington?”

  • Anonymous

    It is interesting that the honorable gentleman from Hancock chooses to exempt those who row  loaded 6′ dinghies across very cold Gulf of Maine and Fundy Bay harbors full of power boat wakes. What, really, is the difference between a “short row” and a “short paddle”? In a harbor the size of Rockland’s for instance, the row between slip and big boat isn’t always as brief as he suggests, and the conditions aren’t always those of a mill pond, but we mustn’t anger the lobstermen or yachters, eh? Has he considered the increasingly popular rowing shells, in which case a pfd is a real hindrance to the task at hand? Also, popular definitions of canoe and kayak are pretty broad. Real kayaks are built for use with skirts and can be righted by a roll. The little plastic big cockpit platforms passing under the name are hardly that.Canoes exist in myriad forms: how do plank on frame or kevlar versions of Adirondack guide boats, or double-ended Rangeley guide boats or  Grand Laker canoes (which can be paddled) or Bangor Pool peapods and other  rowing canoes fit into this picture? Granted, inexperienced paddlers who pack it in are the ones we read about, but isn’t the principle the same? Thus, as a preventive measure shouldn’t the law be extended to all boaters? Every now and then a lobsterman or urchin harvester pitches over the rail for good.
    But no; instead we draw a line for the sake of accommodation. If we must, how does the line get drawn, and who should get to draw it? In the case of motorcyclists, who need special licenses indicating competency, after all (maybe that route might be used with paddle craft as well), the owners and operators get to draw the line. I think it shouldn’t be any different with small muscle powered watercraft, or perhaps any watercraft no matter what the purpose.

  • Anonymous

    Your link doesn’t tell the real story, only how the Canadian Red Cross defines those two terms, PFD and life jacket. 

    This link refers to how the US Coast Guard defines them.  All life jacket are PFD’s, but not all life jackets are Type I PFD’s that will turn an unconscious person face up in the water. So, your initial comment was incorrect, some life jackets will turn and keep you face up and some will not, depending on what Type they are. For example, a Type I PFD will keep you face up, but a Type III PFD or life jacket will not.  http://www.pfdma.org/choosing/types.aspx

  • Anonymous

    Actually, not.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FIDKFGFSAYHVYMF44LB2CAXR2Q Bob Walker

    Give me a break!!  They{big brother}just want all of us to fall into line and keep our mouths shut and continue to pay their salaries, oops I mean taxes because we the citizenry are to unintelligent to figure out when we should wear a life vest, and in their infinite wisdom that seems to only comes with a badge or political office, they will do the thinking for us. Mr. Malaby stick to what you know, like running an Inn? and in return I will try to think for myself.    

  • Anonymous

    This is just one more example of big government improperly passing laws for all the wrong reasons.  They say the laws purpose is to “educate” but educating isn’t what laws are supposed to be for. I agree that sea kayakers would be well served to wear a good life jacket if there is any chance they will stray very far from shore or if it’s not a calm day in the middle of August, but it’s absurd for the government to be even contemplating passing a LAW requiring all kayakers to wear one.  A better role for government is to find ways to better educate the public so more people realize the dangers and take proper precautions. Possibly a mandatory  boater safety course before anyone is allowed to operate any vessel in Maine.  Out of staters intending to visit Maine could take the course online if they wished. But attempting to legislate Darwinism out of any activity is a losing game. There will always be a few people who are determined to do stupid things that result in their own death, but the rest of us shouldn’t be punished or inconvenienced in a misguided attempt to prevent this behavior.  When I kayak, it’s almost always on a calm lake during midsummer, but when I sail my small sailboat with the boom at head level it’s almost always when the wind is howling and waves are large, and I frequently drive my motorboat at speeds that would be likely to throw me violently into the water if I accidentally hit a submerged object, and when I singlehanded my large sailboat far offshore, if I tripped on the deck and fell overboard, there would be no-one to rescue me before hypothermia set in. I DO wear a life jacket when it’s appropriate and don’t need the government telling me when/where. Of all the types of boating that I engage in, kayaking is the LEAST likely to result in my injury or death, and yet this is the type of boating that some of our legislators want to stick their noses into.  What will they think of next?

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree, people should wear one in a kayak….
    The hypothermia part was because there were some deaths earler in the year from hypothermia.. So what are they going to do, make it a law to wear a wetsuit too?????

  • Anonymous

    here is a video on u tube i referred to in my comments.  whether you are for or against the pfd law.   some interesting info on cold water immersion.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1xohI3B4Uc

  • Anonymous

    Nanny state.

    Everything is dangerous.  Life itself is dangerous — 100% fatality rate for humans.  I did a 15 mile bike ride this morning.  Given the way people drive their cars and trucks, I probably would have been a lot safer kayaking without a PFD and wet suit.

  • Anonymous

    Life jackets used in calm, inshore waters don’t flip you onto your back if you panic or become unconscious. Counting on a life jacket to keep you safe while paddling increases the risk of drowning by giving you a false sense of security. In Boy Scouts, when they taught us how to canoe, the first thing they did was have us paddle to the middle of a lake and capsize the canoe, with no life jacket, and swim the canoe back to shore swamped. Native Americans and peoples all around the planet have used some form of canoe or kayak for hundreds of thousands of years, and none of them used life jackets. It was not until passengers were taken out on boats that life jackets came into use. They are designed to keep people calm in the event they are all going to die because their ship is sinking, kinda like that flotation device under your seat that you’ll use someday when the commercial airliner you are flying in makes a “water landing”.

  • Anonymous

    Life jackets used in calm, inshore waters don’t flip you onto your back if you panic or become unconscious. Counting on a life jacket to keep you safe while paddling increases the risk of drowning by giving you a false sense of security. In Boy Scouts, when they taught us how to canoe, the first thing they did was have us paddle to the middle of a lake and capsize the canoe, with no life jacket, and swim the canoe back to shore swamped. Native Americans and peoples all around the planet have used some form of canoe or kayak for hundreds of thousands of years, and none of them used life jackets. It was not until passengers were taken out on boats that life jackets came into use. They are designed to keep people calm in the event they are all going to die because their ship is sinking, kinda like that flotation device under your seat that you’ll use someday when the commercial airliner you are flying in makes a “water landing”.

  • Anonymous

    Life jackets used in calm, inshore waters don’t flip you onto your back if you panic or become unconscious. Counting on a life jacket to keep you safe while paddling increases the risk of drowning by giving you a false sense of security. In Boy Scouts, when they taught us how to canoe, the first thing they did was have us paddle to the middle of a lake and capsize the canoe, with no life jacket, and swim the canoe back to shore swamped. Native Americans and peoples all around the planet have used some form of canoe or kayak for hundreds of thousands of years, and none of them used life jackets. It was not until passengers were taken out on boats that life jackets came into use. They are designed to keep people calm in the event they are all going to die because their ship is sinking, kinda like that flotation device under your seat that you’ll use someday when the commercial airliner you are flying in makes a “water landing”.

  • Anonymous

    Life jackets used in calm, inshore waters don’t flip you onto your back if you panic or become unconscious. Counting on a life jacket to keep you safe while paddling increases the risk of drowning by giving you a false sense of security. In Boy Scouts, when they taught us how to canoe, the first thing they did was have us paddle to the middle of a lake and capsize the canoe, with no life jacket, and swim the canoe back to shore swamped. Native Americans and peoples all around the planet have used some form of canoe or kayak for hundreds of thousands of years, and none of them used life jackets. It was not until passengers were taken out on boats that life jackets came into use. They are designed to keep people calm in the event they are all going to die because their ship is sinking, kinda like that flotation device under your seat that you’ll use someday when the commercial airliner you are flying in makes a “water landing”.

  • Anonymous

    Right, because when you fall in the water in April in Maine, it’s the hypothermia that immobilizes you meaning you can’t swim to safety if safety is too far away.

  • Anonymous

    Right, because when you fall in the water in April in Maine, it’s the hypothermia that immobilizes you meaning you can’t swim to safety if safety is too far away.

  • Anonymous

    Right, because when you fall in the water in April in Maine, it’s the hypothermia that immobilizes you meaning you can’t swim to safety if safety is too far away.

  • Anonymous

    Right, because when you fall in the water in April in Maine, it’s the hypothermia that immobilizes you meaning you can’t swim to safety if safety is too far away.

  • Anonymous

    Right, because when you fall in the water in April in Maine, it’s the hypothermia that immobilizes you meaning you can’t swim to safety if safety is too far away.

  • Anonymous

    Right, because when you fall in the water in April in Maine, it’s the hypothermia that immobilizes you meaning you can’t swim to safety if safety is too far away.

  • Anonymous

    Fresh water PDFs are useless anyway, so there’s no point in a law making them mandatory.

  • Anonymous

    Fresh water PDFs are useless anyway, so there’s no point in a law making them mandatory.

  • Anonymous

    Fresh water PDFs are useless anyway, so there’s no point in a law making them mandatory.

  • Anonymous

    The excitement is because a Korean boy died after capsizing in Beach Hill Pond. I swam in that pond for years, and I can tell you, if  you can’t swim across that puddle, you can’t swim. If you can’t swim, a fresh water PFD is not going to help you. I was always far more afraid some genius on a jet ski or speed boat was going to hit and maim or kill me so I swam parallel to the shore rather that acrooss the pond. A PFD would have prevented me from diving deeply as the water toy sped over my head and ensured disaster if I had swamped my kayak, sailboat, or canoe.

  • Anonymous

    “Run your Inn.” LOL  Next time you take a cruise, wear your life jacket the whole seven days and six nights. Maybe he can go post some more “no trespassing” signs on some more public land somewhere if he’s still too excited to sleep after running that inn.

  • Anonymous

    Stop, you’re giving them ideas! Next we’ll have to wear seat belts on our motorcycles.

  • Anonymous

    If it was a no brainah we’d already be doing it. No new laws without a thorough review of existing laws to see what we can do away with…like 90% of them.

  • Anonymous

    I love it! Now that’s an image I won’t get out of my head soon. And how appropriate! LOL

  • Anonymous

    You’re kidding about the standing up and leaning of the side, right? LOL. Don’t stand up or lean over the side inflatable duck around your waist or not!

  • Anonymous

    Not.  ”This link refers to how the US Coast Guard defines them.  All life jacket are PFD’s, but not all life jackets are Type I PFD’s that will turn an unconscious person face up in the water. So, your initial comment was incorrect, some life jackets will turn and keep you face up and some will not, depending on what Type they are. For example, a Type I PFD will keep you face up, but a Type III PFD or life jacket will not.  http://www.pfdma.org/choosing/…”  as jtsailjt posted.

  • Anonymous

    As long as everyone is willing to sign off on a law that prohibits lawsuits by the families of those who are too stupid to wear a pdf and wind up drowning, great, but we all know that will never happen. I agree that you can’t legislate common sense but the nonsense lawsuits really need to stop. Oh wait, the lawyers will never let that happen…….

  • Anonymous

    Ok no “other” boaters have to wear PFD’s and motorcyclists don’t have to wear friggin helmets….but because we had some nitwits from out of state who don’t have a clue on how to maneuver in the ocean (so they “drowned”) ….now all kayakers  have to wear a PFD…….BRILLIANT.

  • Anonymous

    Ok no “other” boaters have to wear PFD’s and motorcyclists don’t have to wear friggin helmets….but because we had some nitwits from out of state who don’t have a clue on how to maneuver in the ocean (so they “drowned”) ….now all kayakers  have to wear a PFD…….BRILLIANT.

  • Anonymous

    If you HAVE to wear a life jacket while in a boat…..which floats, wouldn’t it make more sense to make it a law that ALL swimmers wear one.?

    I mean they are actually IN the water and I do believe that there are many more drownings attributed to people swimming than boating.

    People shouldn’t be able to enter the water without a PFD. Lets really take a tough stance against drowning!!!

  • Anonymous

    If you HAVE to wear a life jacket while in a boat…..which floats, wouldn’t it make more sense to make it a law that ALL swimmers wear one.?

    I mean they are actually IN the water and I do believe that there are many more drownings attributed to people swimming than boating.

    People shouldn’t be able to enter the water without a PFD. Lets really take a tough stance against drowning!!!

  • PaulNotBunyan

    I guess you were thinking I might lean over the side while standing and do that in something like a canoe. Anyway, I don’t do both at the same time. I was referring to things like standing up to cast a fishing line from a stationary boat. I’m the careful type. Falling and hitting my head on a submerged rock is not the type of thing I seek.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    I guess you were thinking I might lean over the side while standing and do that in something like a canoe. Anyway, I don’t do both at the same time. I was referring to things like standing up to cast a fishing line from a stationary boat. I’m the careful type. Falling and hitting my head on a submerged rock is not the type of thing I seek.

  • Anonymous

    I am a Registered Master Maine Guide have guided Kayakers for over 13 years and I do make each
    member of my party where a properly fitted PFD, but I would not support making
    it a law. Imposing a law for common sense is a waste of time. Who will enforce
    it? IFW does not have the manpower. How could you fine someone? Even more important
    just wearing a PFD will not save your life. A properly fitted and sport matched
    PFD (for Kayaks type 3) is the only think that will help. Interesting note: If
    you hit your head flipping a kayak and knocked out only a type 1 one life
    jacket will keep your head out of the water. If you are wearing a type 1 you could
    not paddle a kayak or a canoe as they are way too restrictive.  Education is the only thing that can help
    reduce paddling accidents.  

       One more note for
    all those who need education if you are wearing a type 2 PFD in a kayak like in
    the picture and you flip the type 2 will be forced up causing it to push you
    head down in the water or against the boat and not allow you to make a proper wet exit from a
    kayak. Education, education for all those who paddle and all those that try to impose
    laws on those who do.

  • Anonymous

    I have guided Kayakers for over 13 years and I do make each
    member of my party where a properly fitted PFD, but I would not support making
    it a law. Imposing a law for common sense is a waste of time. Who will enforce
    it? IFW does not have the manpower. How could you fine someone? Even more important
    just wearing a PFD will not save your life. A properly fitted and sport matched
    PFD (for Kayaks type 3) is the only think that will help. Interesting note: If
    you hit your head flipping a kayak and knocked out only a type 1 one life
    jacket will keep your head out of the water. If you are wearing a type 1 you could
    not paddle a kayak or a canoe as they are way too restrictive.  Education is the only thing that can help
    reduce paddling accidents.  

       One more note for
    all those who need education if you are wearing a type 2 PFD in a kayak like in
    the picture and you flip the type 2 will be forced up causing it to push you
    head down in the water and not allow you to make a proper wet exit from a
    kayak. Education, education for all those who paddle and all those that try to impose
    laws on those who do.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah and the Delaware River is in one of the original 17 colonies.  

  • Anonymous

    The funny thing about life is:   No one survives it.

  • Anonymous

    Darwinism at its finest.   ;{)    

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been kayaking and canoeing for decades.    The conditions of the water are the factors that make me decide on whether I do or do not wear a PFD.   I don’t need  politicians who want to make legacies for themselves deciding on my fate or ultimate destiny.   If I drown because of my own stupidity, it was my destiny to drown..    Ultimately it was still my choice.

  • Anonymous

    Can you spell RINO?

  • Anonymous

    this is not the question, just because you should do something doesn’t mean it should be a law. (ie you should brush you teeth)

  • Anonymous

    Maybe making all Inn owners wear dry suits at all times, this problem will go away. I say let’s try it and see how it goes. 

  • Anonymous

    so your thinking all swimmers should also have this policy? that sounds like vacationland!

  • Anonymous

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think you should have to wear your seatbelt in your canoe. Your being a pansy doesn’t necessitate my wearing a life jacket.

  • Anonymous

    I just have one small suggestion. People with shhit for brains should not be allowed to make rules that affect anybody but themselves. 

  • http://twitter.com/NorthernRants Bill Buck

    Please stop legislating us.  More taxpayer money wasted on a bill that is common sense.  If you are stupid enough to paddle without a life jacket, then you deserve the same fate as the people who ride motorcycles without helmets.

    What is next?  Legislating that we eat our veggies?

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