Potential buyer of Katahdin mills interested in energy projects

The Millinocket paper mill sits idle in March. Maine Gov. Paul LePage announced Tuesday that a buyer had come forward for the two Katahdin mills.
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The Millinocket paper mill sits idle in March. Maine Gov. Paul LePage announced Tuesday that a buyer had come forward for the two Katahdin mills.
Posted Aug. 30, 2011, at 11:42 a.m.
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AUGUSTA, Maine — The installation of natural gas lines and “a separate renewable fuel project” involving wood are part of a New Hampshire-based investor’s plans to buy and run the two Katahdin region paper mills, Gov. Paul LePage’s office said Tuesday.

Cate Street Capital of Portsmouth, N.H., which describes itself as a national leader in developing green energy companies, signed an asset purchase agreement on Tuesday for the Millinocket and East Millinocket mills for an undisclosed price. The closure of the deal could come as early as mid-September, state officials said.

“This is a significant milestone in our efforts to not only restore papermaking in the Katahdin region, but to create job opportunities for Mainers,” LePage said in a statement. “I want to commend the hard work and commitment of Brookfield [Asset Management, the mills’ owner] and Cate Street. We look forward to continuing to work toward a closing.”

If all goes well, as many as 500 workers could be employed in East Millinocket and Millinocket in several months, said George Gervais, commissioner of the Maine Department of Economic and Community Development.

As many as 200 East Millinocket papermakers could return to work to fill already-placed orders for virgin newsprint, one of the plant’s specialties, by early October, with the plant’s recycled newsprint operations resuming as orders arrive, said Rosaire Pelletier, the governor’s adviser on forest product industries.

“They want to start No. 6 [East Millinocket’s papermaking machine] as soon as possible,” Pelletier said.

The Millinocket mill’s production of magazine-style catalog and newspaper inserts is not expected for several months. It again depends on whether orders are placed, Pelletier said.

“The full intent of Cate Street is to restart No. 11 [Millinocket’s sole papermaking machine] and it would be driven by the market,” Pelletier said.

All terms of the agreement were not immediately available, but Cate Street said in a statement that it has been “studying the mills’ feasibility for months” and has about 30 days to meet several conditions for the deal to proceed.

“Signing this agreement is a great first step, but there remain significant hurdles to overcome in a relatively short period of time,” Cate Street Capital Senior Vice President Richard Cyr said Tuesday in a statement. “We will work diligently to resolve all outstanding issues over the next few weeks so this project may proceed.”

“It will take great effort and compromise from all parties,” Cyr added.

LePage’s press secretary, Adrienne Bennett, characterized the potential mill restart as one of the most significant economic achievements of the LePage administration but agreed that much work needed to be done before the Katahdin region could return to papermaking. The region’s last paper mill, East Millinocket’s plant, closed on April 1, idling about 450 workers.

“This is a significant step in the right direction. … We don’t want to say this is a done deal yet,” Bennett said Tuesday. “Clearly Cate Street has shown a commitment to these mills. We are very excited about moving forward.”

Gervais said he believed that the signing of the intent-to-purchase agreement was the largest hurdle all sides would have to overcome.

Katahdin region leaders greeted the news with great satisfaction. Millinocket Town Manager Eugene Conlogue expressed hope that the reopened mills would relieve the Katahdin region of its brutal unemployment rate — 21.1 percent in July, down from 21.8 percent in June.

“This is obviously very exciting news that brings new hope to the Katahdin region,” Conlogue said Tuesday.

“If I could turn a cartwheel, I would,” East Millinocket Administrative Assistant Shirley Tapley said.

“If I had a tail I would be wagging it,” Millinocket Town Council Chairman John Davis said. “I am feeling pretty good about this.”

“I am really delighted because everybody has been hanging on edges and nails for so long,” said state Rep. Herbert Clark, D-Millinocket. “This is some good news going in the right direction.”

Based in Portsmouth, N.H., Cate Street Capital is a private equity firm that has raised more than $6 billion to finance more than 40 projects in the last 15 years. The firm specializes in renewable energy and green technology projects.

The company most recently made the news when it opened the new 100-acre Red Desert Water Reclamation center in Wyoming on Aug. 24. The facility recycles water from the drilling of oil and natural gas wells in the Greater Green River, Hanna, Laramie and Wind River basins. Red Desert Water Reclamation will have capacity to treat approximately 20,000 barrels of “produced” water from Wyoming oil and gas drilling daily, according to the company’s website, reddesertwater.com.

Cate Street Capital was among investors looking earlier this year to buy the Gorham Paper LLC mill in Gorham, N.H., but that deal fell through before Patriarch Partners bought the mill in May. The company also has proposed a biomass plant in Berlin, N.H., according to media reports.

Through its Katahdin Paper Co. subsidiary, Brookfield Asset Management of Toronto owns the two Katahdin region mills and the company that operated the East Millinocket mill, Twin Rivers Paper Co. It also owns Brookfield Renewable Power, which owns 186 megawatts of electricity-producing dams on the Penobscot River and other bodies of water in Maine, according to Brookfield’s website.

East Millinocket’s mill was an integrated pulp and paper facility and a leading North American supplier with the capability to offer products with high recycled fiber content. It operated two paper machines that can produce 250,000 tons a year of uncoated groundwood papers for directory, catalog, book, insert and newsprint applications.

The Millinocket mill has a 180,000-ton-per-year supercalendered paper machine capable of producing paper for catalogs, magazines and retail industry fliers. It closed in September 2008, eliminating about 200 jobs.

In recent months, senior staff from the governor’s office and the commissioner of the Maine Department of Economic and Community Development met with several potential buyers before completing the signed purchase agreement on Tuesday.

Among the conditions is a tax deal with the mills’ host towns. Those details have yet to be decided, but Conlogue said he expected that Cate Street and Millinocket residents would live comfortably with the tax deal. No cuts to town services deeper than those in the town’s 2011-12 fiscal year budget are likely to occur, he said.

Mark Scally, chairman of East Millinocket’s Board of Selectmen, said he was unsure how any looming tax deal would affect his town. The town’s attorneys have met with Cate Street’s attorneys to discuss taxes, but Scally said he has no details from those discussions.

Another condition: the installation of natural gas lines to heat the water needed in the Millinocket mill’s papermaking. The mill’s oil needs were blamed for its closure in September 2008.

The state is fully committed to helping Cate Street install the lines within two years, Gervais said. The Millinocket mill will operate without gas, possibly on oil, until then, he said.

The installation of natural gas lines will greatly broaden the region’s industrial potential, Gervais said, and possibly lead to the commercial manufacture of “an alternative energy product,” occurring at the Millinocket site.

The Millinocket plant is located at one end of the Golden Road, one of the state’s primary industrial conduits into the North Woods, and near the Penobscot River and its hydropower dams. The mill site also has industrial electricity and a rail spur for freight hauling, making it one of the Katahdin region’s prime industrial sites, officials have said.

The East Millinocket mill has a pipeline that connects its pulp-making facilities to the Millinocket plant, one of several factors that make them a tandem operation.

“This company wants to grow the assets of Millinocket and East Millinocket into clean energy because that is their core product,” Pelletier said.

He and Gervais declined further comment. Cate Street officials did not return telephone messages seeking comment.

Scally complimented Brookfield for twice extending the mills’ decommissioning dates to help state officials in their search for a mills buyer and state Rep. Clark for helping engineer the state Legislature’s vote to clean up an old landfill used by the paper mills in East Millinocket, the contamination of which was seen as a major roadblock in any mills deal.

“It is not the end of the race but it is at least a good start,” Scally said, advising residents to “keep your fingers crossed.”

U.S. Sens Susan Collins and Olympia J. Snowe, R-Maine, commended the LePage administration for its work to this point.

“Averting the loss of this critical component of Maine’s paper industry is of paramount importance, and I will continue fighting at the federal level to improve the economic climate for these key economic engines in the Katahdin region,” Snowe said in a statement Tuesday. “Going forward, I am committed to help the new buyer invest in these mills to bring innovative and diverse energy sources to the region.”

“These facilities are critical to the economy of our state, especially the Katahdin region,” Collins said, pledging to “do all I can to assist, at the federal level, to help get these mills up and running, and allow people to go back to work, as soon as possible.”

A home to papermaking for more than 100 years, the Katahdin region has endured years of speculation about a potential investor in the Millinocket mill, and weeks of negotiations with another would-be buyer, Meriturn Partners, before Meriturn pulled out of the possible deal in late April.

Meriturn had signed a letter of intent Feb. 11 to purchase the two mills from Brookfield for $1 by April 29 if several conditions were met. Meriturn sought a $48 million tax break over 10 years from East Millinocket and Millinocket, which the towns never accepted.

The towns were in negotiations with Meriturn and the paper mills’ unions had agreed to a tentative deal that would have made them the state’s lowest-paid papermakers when the company opted to pull out.

Town leaders are hopeful that things will go better with Cate Street. Conlogue, Scally and Gervais praised LePage and Pelletier for their success at getting Cate Street to sign a purchase agreement — an arduous task, Gervais said, given the many moving parts to a mills deal.

“If either of them [LePage and Pelletier] had not been on board through this critical time we would not be talking about the sale of the mills. We would be talking about a salvage operation,” Conlogue said. “The governor and Mr. Pelletier have given this area new hope for a prosperous future.”

“He has been there as the voice of expertise from the state’s perspective in dealing with these mills. He understands what it takes to get a deal like this done,” Gervais said of Pelletier. “He speaks the language of the mill operators, the potential investors and politics.”

Originally employed under the Baldacci administration, Pelletier was retained by LePage for his familiarity with the mills deal.

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  • Anonymous

    Great news!!! Hooray for the region and all of Maine…

  • Anonymous

    Hopeful that the sale will go through, it is great news.

  • Anonymous

    Hip Hip Horay Maybe I can go back to work instead of school!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    We shall see.  Not holding my breath….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    We shall see.  Not holding my breath….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    We shall see.  Not holding my breath….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    We shall see.  Not holding my breath….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    We shall see.  Not holding my breath….

  • Anonymous

    Yeah every time we hear news of these mills being bought it’s followed by a report a few weeks later it’s fallen through.  or something comes up with EPA or something.

    i hope this really does happen though

  • Anonymous

    Yeah every time we hear news of these mills being bought it’s followed by a report a few weeks later it’s fallen through.  or something comes up with EPA or something.

    i hope this really does happen though

  • Anonymous

    Yeah every time we hear news of these mills being bought it’s followed by a report a few weeks later it’s fallen through.  or something comes up with EPA or something.

    i hope this really does happen though

  • Anonymous

    Yeah every time we hear news of these mills being bought it’s followed by a report a few weeks later it’s fallen through.  or something comes up with EPA or something.

    i hope this really does happen though

  • Anonymous

    We wish you would

  • Anonymous

    We wish you would

  • Anonymous

    We wish you would

  • valgal10

    Fabulous news for the Katahdin area..hip hip hurray….let the good time roll again…we hope

  • yowsayowsa1

     Or McD’s, serving the blackfly worshiping tourists that want a new park.

  • yowsayowsa1

     Or McD’s, serving the blackfly worshiping tourists that want a new park.

  • Anonymous

    Where are the folks who have been proclaiming for months that all hope was lost? That Gov. LePage wasn’t even trying? Where are you? Care to admit now that this is good for the Katahdin region? Also, it looks as if the company is environmentally and socially conscientious, so it seems you can’t even claim this is a sell-out to big corporate polluters.

    Come on folks, chime in and offer your thoughts now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1187863003 Robin Earley Lyford

    Praise the Lord! Now hopefully we can get these hardworking folks back to work. Thank you Governor LaPage  You are a man of your word. I’ll gladly vote for you again!

  • Anonymous

    This doesn’t mean that they are anywhere near close to putting anyone back to work.

  • valgal10

    closer than hey were yesterday…

  • Anonymous

    Yep, and may it please be in (M)assachusetts- including the fence

  • Anonymous

    The left leaning posters on these pages have for the most part only offered the virtirol that served no purpose other than to slander LePage.  They will be no where to be found.  LePage’s success is their worst nightmare.  Heaven forbid the state moves forward.

  • Anonymous

    The left leaning posters on these pages have for the most part only offered the virtirol that served no purpose other than to slander LePage.  They will be no where to be found.  LePage’s success is their worst nightmare.  Heaven forbid the state moves forward.

  • Anonymous

    We wonder if the State is party to the Brookfield-Cate Street agreement i.e. is the State still agreeing to take over management and ownership of the Dolby landfill?  The article does not say, hopefully more details will be forthcoming.

  • valgal10

    closer than they were yesterday is what I wanted to type…

  • Anonymous

    No business deal is done until the final closing papers get signed, but the Governer and his administration deserve a lot of credit for nursing this project along and finding a buyer.  No question that the usual suspects will find reasons to take shots at the Governor and this deal, but it’s hard to question the reality that it’s good news for the region and has the potential to return lots of people to work.

  • Anonymous

    Never count your chickens before they hatch.

  • Anonymous

    Well we’ll see, sure not holding my breath.

  • Anonymous

    This is great news for my hometown and area.  It is also great news for the State of Maine. 

  • Anonymous

    There’s virtually no real information about the future of the mills in this story. This is great news if they’re going to reopen and be viable, profitable paper mills, but it might be best to temper our enthusiasm for this announcement for now.

  • Anonymous

    There’s virtually no real information about the future of the mills in this story. This is great news if they’re going to reopen and be viable, profitable paper mills, but it might be best to temper our enthusiasm for this announcement for now.

  • Anonymous

    They look like a lean mean Green machine in thier portfolio.

  • Anonymous

    Point of fact–it wasn’t the EPA that caused the deal to go south last spring—the buyer was trying to get tax concessions from the local towns—-apparently didn’t get enough and pulled out but it really didn’t appear the buyer was serious to begin with–but just testing the waters so to speak.

  • Benevolent Despot

    I hope this is the start of something good for the area; time will tell if this company is serious about the success of the mills.

  • Anonymous

    Green Machine??? You mean like the Schenck  Wolverines??

    GO GREEEN!!!

  • Anonymous

    Green Machine??? You mean like the Schenck  Wolverines??

    GO GREEEN!!!

  • Anonymous

    That is exactly what the story says.

  • Anonymous

    The mills “are” coming back, and Governor LePage has been instrumental in its progress. This progress was not something Baldacci or Michaud could be bothered with. The “fact” is that Governor LePage did a lot of work to help this project along, but still there are those that actually don’t want the mills to recover, and would rather see the entire northern half of Maine turn into some massive Quimby Land.

    Manufacturing has a strange way of rebirth, and will employ more, pay more and do more for the area than Quimby’s dream of self-immortalization.
     

    .

  • Anonymous

    I believe Meriturn was what is considered a “Stalking Horse”. Shaking the tree to see what falls out, so to speak.

  • Anonymous

    Wonderful news for not only the Katahdin Area but the State as well. A tip of the hat to the LePage Administration for a job well done. I also see that Senator Snowe issued her usual phony statement ““Averting the loss of this critical component of Maine’s paper industry is of paramount importance, and I will continue fighting at the federal level to improve the economic climate for these key economic engines in the Katahdin region,” Snowe said in a statement Tuesday. “Going forward, I am committed to help the new buyer invest in these mills to bring innovative and diverse energy sources to the region.” What exactly kind of fighting have you been doing Senator? How are you going to help the new buyer invest in these mills? Going to dip into your personal fortune and pony up a few bucks are you? Perhaps you might enlighten us Senator with what these diverse and innovative energy sources are? How are you going to bring anything to the area? Just more of a career politician trying to make it sound like she actually had something to do with helping out the area. Speaking of career politicians where has Congressman Michaud been during the attempt to get the mills back open and the people back to work? Perhaps tomorrow morning when flags are raised for the day in the Kathadin area a MIA flag should be raised for Mike, he sure has been missing in action. Good job Governor LePage and crew keep up the good work.

  • Anonymous

    The only fence needed is between your butt and your brain….Much leakage going both ways…

  • Anonymous

    I am surprised that everyone is so excited about these ‘greenies’ coming in to buy the mills.

    I hope everything goes well for them and the mills reopen….without too much blackmail oops I mean concessions on the part of the towns and the unions/workers.

  • Anonymous

    Now tell Quimby, “National Park? We Don’t need your stinkin’ National Park”

  • Anonymous

    Now here’s to hoping the town leaders don’t go messing it up!

    I’ll dance when the ink is dry on a contract….we’ve heard many times how this company or that company is interested…..let’s all say a prayer this time it sticks.

    I noticed a few of their projects haven’t worked out for them over the last couple of years…they pull out in the end….hope that doesn’t happen here. I don’t know how many more times our town’s hope can be crushed!

    Good Luck!!! I’m rooting for them!!

  • Anonymous

    you have the name right !!!  ( MAASSHOLE) Please stay in Mass.

  • Anonymous

    As an independent, I really am proud we have a non PC, experienced real person non politician as Gov instead of some the hacks of the past…yeh he sometimes says stupid stuff but he will be judged on results like we are in the real world…. and already, he has cleaned house of some hacks and more to come, got us back to reality, and is moving forward no matter how the print media including this one tries to trash  him..

  • Anonymous

    Glad to see progress being made. Lets hope it makes it all the way and people can get back to work.  That area up there has been like a bouncing ball, up, down, up, down.

  • Anonymous

    I voted for Gov.LePage for this reason. To help the state attract good paying jobs. I didn’t want him to be a silver tongued devil. I want a man of action and I will vote for him again.

  • Anonymous

    I voted for Gov.LePage for this reason. To help the state attract good paying jobs. I didn’t want him to be a silver tongued devil. I want a man of action and I will vote for him again.

  • Anonymous

    The governor’s office’s is central to handling the issue of the mills. It would have been irresponsible of either Snowe or Michaud to do anything but speak with one voice through the governor’s office on such an important issue. Sometimes things have to be done quietly in order to make progress. How do you know they weren’t “kept in the loop” during these sensitive negotiations?

  • Rgiff

    Ref my comments in the past articles, I said Oldtown made it happen and I said keep the faith and it would happen up here. Good Luck Paper workers

  • Rgiff

    Ref my comments in the past articles, I said Oldtown made it happen and I said keep the faith and it would happen up here. Good Luck Paper workers

  • Rgiff

    Ref my comments in the past articles, I said Oldtown made it happen and I said keep the faith and it would happen up here. Good Luck Paper workers

  • Rgiff

    Ref my comments in the past articles, I said Oldtown made it happen and I said keep the faith and it would happen up here. Good Luck Paper workers

  • Anonymous

    I think people who are conservative in their politics are fine with “greenies” as long as they are growing their industry and companies without doing it on the backs of taxpayers. Nobody dislikes green industry, they dislike having to finance them with tax dollars. If they’re green, and can make a profit and put people to work without sucking up tax dollars to do it, more power to them!

  • Anonymous

    I think people who are conservative in their politics are fine with “greenies” as long as they are growing their industry and companies without doing it on the backs of taxpayers. Nobody dislikes green industry, they dislike having to finance them with tax dollars. If they’re green, and can make a profit and put people to work without sucking up tax dollars to do it, more power to them!

  • Anonymous

    I think people who are conservative in their politics are fine with “greenies” as long as they are growing their industry and companies without doing it on the backs of taxpayers. Nobody dislikes green industry, they dislike having to finance them with tax dollars. If they’re green, and can make a profit and put people to work without sucking up tax dollars to do it, more power to them!

  • Anonymous

    I think people who are conservative in their politics are fine with “greenies” as long as they are growing their industry and companies without doing it on the backs of taxpayers. Nobody dislikes green industry, they dislike having to finance them with tax dollars. If they’re green, and can make a profit and put people to work without sucking up tax dollars to do it, more power to them!

  • Anonymous

    I think people who are conservative in their politics are fine with “greenies” as long as they are growing their industry and companies without doing it on the backs of taxpayers. Nobody dislikes green industry, they dislike having to finance them with tax dollars. If they’re green, and can make a profit and put people to work without sucking up tax dollars to do it, more power to them!

  • Anonymous

    dont get your hopes up Millinocket and East Millinocket, how many times have you seen this fall through.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    I hope this buyer is optimistic and aggressive. By that I mean I hope it means a lot more than 500 jobs coming back to the area.

  • Anonymous

    It would be great if they not only had a goal to put the mill workers back to work but to set a growth target as well, wouldn’t it? One step at a time, but we can hope!

  • Anonymous

    It would be great if they not only had a goal to put the mill workers back to work but to set a growth target as well, wouldn’t it? One step at a time, but we can hope!

  • Anonymous

    It would be great if they not only had a goal to put the mill workers back to work but to set a growth target as well, wouldn’t it? One step at a time, but we can hope!

  • Anonymous

    If you think Snowe and Michaud are helping out the State you have every right to your opinion. 

  • Anonymous

    If you think Snowe and Michaud are helping out the State you have every right to your opinion. 

  • Anonymous

    If you think Snowe and Michaud are helping out the State you have every right to your opinion. 

  • Anonymous

    If you think Snowe and Michaud are helping out the State you have every right to your opinion. 

  • Anonymous

    The deeper you dig the smellier it gets. 

  • Anonymous

    The deeper you dig the smellier it gets. 

  • Anonymous

    Gorham, Mass mill last hope for a bankrupt closed mill. Google it… it’s um yea what’s the politicall correct word… INTERESTING ??

  • Anonymous

    Gorham, Mass mill last hope for a bankrupt closed mill. Google it… it’s um yea what’s the politicall correct word… INTERESTING ??

  • Anonymous

    Gorham, Mass mill last hope for a bankrupt closed mill. Google it… it’s um yea what’s the politicall correct word… INTERESTING ??

  • Anonymous

    Why not take back the hydropower dams to do what they were built for, running the mills? This would alleviate the need to burn other, polluting fuels. Since it seems the dams were all they wanted and to heck with the people,  integrating the dams into the equation would be the right thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    Why not take back the hydropower dams to do what they were built for, running the mills? This would alleviate the need to burn other, polluting fuels. Since it seems the dams were all they wanted and to heck with the people,  integrating the dams into the equation would be the right thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    Why not take back the hydropower dams to do what they were built for, running the mills? This would alleviate the need to burn other, polluting fuels. Since it seems the dams were all they wanted and to heck with the people,  integrating the dams into the equation would be the right thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    i’m not a lepage fan, but i will give him credit for making the effort to broker a deal….although in the end, it’s the bottom line of the financial ledger that brings any prospective buyer to the table….

  • Anonymous

    i’m not a lepage fan, but i will give him credit for making the effort to broker a deal….although in the end, it’s the bottom line of the financial ledger that brings any prospective buyer to the table….

  • Anonymous

    No he means only interested in bio mass boilers, power and hmmmmmmm why does that sound soooooooooooo very familiar?

  • Anonymous

    No he means only interested in bio mass boilers, power and hmmmmmmm why does that sound soooooooooooo very familiar?

  • Anonymous

    Or if Brookfield has finally paid off all their outstanding liens to allow a sale in the first place ?

  • Anonymous

    AMEN

  • Anonymous

    AMEN

  • Anonymous

    AMEN

  • Anonymous

    AMEN

  • Anonymous

    AMEN

  • Anonymous

    That was an option that almost happened

  • Anonymous

    That was an option that almost happened

  • Anonymous

    That was an option that almost happened

  • Anonymous

    That was an option that almost happened

  • Benevolent Despot

    I have always been in favor of the mills starting up. I hope this time it’s for real and I am not in favor of a park.
    I am liberally independent…

  • Benevolent Despot

    I have always been in favor of the mills starting up. I hope this time it’s for real and I am not in favor of a park.
    I am liberally independent…

  • Benevolent Despot

    I have always been in favor of the mills starting up. I hope this time it’s for real and I am not in favor of a park.
    I am liberally independent…

  • Benevolent Despot

    I have always been in favor of the mills starting up. I hope this time it’s for real and I am not in favor of a park.
    I am liberally independent…

  • Benevolent Despot

    I have always been in favor of the mills starting up. I hope this time it’s for real and I am not in favor of a park.
    I am liberally independent…

  • Anonymous

    thank you….

  • Anonymous

    thank you….

  • Anonymous

    thank you….

  • Anonymous

    Agreed…how much is scrap metal going for now a days?

  • Anonymous

    Agreed…how much is scrap metal going for now a days?

  • Anonymous

    But, with the paper making business going obsolete, what are they planning to do with those mills?

  • Anonymous

    Why does it have to be about right and left all the time? I voted for LePage and I have also been extremely critical of him for some of the things he has said and done. In this case he deserves praise for getting the process to this point. I hope for the good of the region and the state that the deal does close and that people can go back to work. We as Americans have a duty to question our politicians no matter what side of the political spectrum they come from. To blindly follow any elected official because of party affiliation or ideology is , in my opinion, not a very smart thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    What happened?

  • Anonymous

    I can appreciate that you are liberally independent. I think we all need to communicate and work together, so I thank you for offering your thoughts and say happily that it’s nice we can mostly all be happy about something for once rather than arguing. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    I can appreciate that you are liberally independent. I think we all need to communicate and work together, so I thank you for offering your thoughts and say happily that it’s nice we can mostly all be happy about something for once rather than arguing. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    I can appreciate that you are liberally independent. I think we all need to communicate and work together, so I thank you for offering your thoughts and say happily that it’s nice we can mostly all be happy about something for once rather than arguing. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    I can appreciate that you are liberally independent. I think we all need to communicate and work together, so I thank you for offering your thoughts and say happily that it’s nice we can mostly all be happy about something for once rather than arguing. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a little early to celebrate…Cate Street has walked from deals at the last minute before, and there’s still a lot to nail down on this one.  I give it a 50-50 chance.   

  • Anonymous

    It’s a little early to celebrate…Cate Street has walked from deals at the last minute before, and there’s still a lot to nail down on this one.  I give it a 50-50 chance.   

  • Anonymous

    It’s a little early to celebrate…Cate Street has walked from deals at the last minute before, and there’s still a lot to nail down on this one.  I give it a 50-50 chance.   

  • Anonymous

    I can appreciate that you are liberally independent. I think we all need to communicate and work together, so I thank you for offering your thoughts and say happily that it’s nice we can mostly all be happy about something for once rather than arguing. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    I can appreciate that you are liberally independent. I think we all need to communicate and work together, so I thank you for offering your thoughts and say happily that it’s nice we can mostly all be happy about something for once rather than arguing. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    I can appreciate that you are liberally independent. I think we all need to communicate and work together, so I thank you for offering your thoughts and say happily that it’s nice we can mostly all be happy about something for once rather than arguing. Good stuff.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a little early to celebrate…Cate Street has walked from deals at the last minute before, and there’s still a lot to nail down on this one.  I give it a 50-50 chance.   

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    please hold your breath  please..   The great Governor has done it again just as he said he would..Now all you liberals can eat your peas as a not so great man said

  • Anonymous

    paper is not obsolete young grasshopper. In fact more paper is used now than ever, but the price was undercut by foreign papermakers. You are thinking newsprint, but there are many other types, especially coated/specialty papers that are quite viable.

  • Anonymous

    paper is not obsolete young grasshopper. In fact more paper is used now than ever, but the price was undercut by foreign papermakers. You are thinking newsprint, but there are many other types, especially coated/specialty papers that are quite viable.

  • Anonymous

    I hold no position on national parks, nor paper mills.

    But an apparent paper mill supporter referring to a national park as “stinkin’” may give one pause.

  • Anonymous

    I hold no position on national parks, nor paper mills.

    But an apparent paper mill supporter referring to a national park as “stinkin’” may give one pause.

  • Anonymous

    What about all those who worked in them Mills who weren’t mill employee’s. I hope they get some work as well.Not to mention the age of the mills work force is around the mid to late 50′s I hope they’ll bring in some fresh blood soon to learn these trades from these men be4 their gone.I heard a large ammount of these guys went to Sappi and the lincoln mill as they were hiring. I can’t wait to hear more very sick of sitting on the couch.Personally I don’t care what government official made this happen pretty much gave up on politician’s. I’m just glad some of them might be  doing something for this area, we’ve been needing growth here for awhile.300 people fighting over a few minumum wage jobs is getting old.I hope their reading this BTW. if LaPage deserves the credit so be it give it to him, and  I hope he keeps going  and sets an example for the rest especially in DC!! they need an example to go by CLEARLY

  • Anonymous

    Michaud is walking around and around his namesake “River Walk”. Since he is used to going in circles and accomplishing nothing, he is quite happy. He finally got something named after him besides a forklift, so he keeps plodding on wearing a name tag and an American flag lapel pin in case no one recognizes him.
     If they had a “least helpful” tag on Senators and Congressmen/women to their respective regions, Snowe and Michaud would top the list. At least Collins does strongly advocate for BIW and gets results.
    I’m sure though that his office will issue a statement attesting to his deep involvement in this whole process, LOL

  • Anonymous

    Michaud is walking around and around his namesake “River Walk”. Since he is used to going in circles and accomplishing nothing, he is quite happy. He finally got something named after him besides a forklift, so he keeps plodding on wearing a name tag and an American flag lapel pin in case no one recognizes him.
     If they had a “least helpful” tag on Senators and Congressmen/women to their respective regions, Snowe and Michaud would top the list. At least Collins does strongly advocate for BIW and gets results.
    I’m sure though that his office will issue a statement attesting to his deep involvement in this whole process, LOL

  • Anonymous

    Michaud is walking around and around his namesake “River Walk”. Since he is used to going in circles and accomplishing nothing, he is quite happy. He finally got something named after him besides a forklift, so he keeps plodding on wearing a name tag and an American flag lapel pin in case no one recognizes him.
     If they had a “least helpful” tag on Senators and Congressmen/women to their respective regions, Snowe and Michaud would top the list. At least Collins does strongly advocate for BIW and gets results.
    I’m sure though that his office will issue a statement attesting to his deep involvement in this whole process, LOL

  • Anonymous

    Michaud is walking around and around his namesake “River Walk”. Since he is used to going in circles and accomplishing nothing, he is quite happy. He finally got something named after him besides a forklift, so he keeps plodding on wearing a name tag and an American flag lapel pin in case no one recognizes him.
     If they had a “least helpful” tag on Senators and Congressmen/women to their respective regions, Snowe and Michaud would top the list. At least Collins does strongly advocate for BIW and gets results.
    I’m sure though that his office will issue a statement attesting to his deep involvement in this whole process, LOL

  • Anonymous

    I like were i live take your park and shove it up your maashole

  • Anonymous

    I like were i live take your park and shove it up your maashole

  • Anonymous

    I like were i live take your park and shove it up your maashole

  • Anonymous

    I like were i live take your park and shove it up your maashole

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OPAW6MFKY2SIYUQYNRYFVIR3V4 Retiree

    The best part they can pay taxes. WOW!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OPAW6MFKY2SIYUQYNRYFVIR3V4 Retiree

    The best part they can pay taxes. WOW!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OPAW6MFKY2SIYUQYNRYFVIR3V4 Retiree

    The best part they can pay taxes. WOW!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OPAW6MFKY2SIYUQYNRYFVIR3V4 Retiree

    The best part they can pay taxes. WOW!

  • Anonymous

    She is probably a silent  partner or board member.

  • Anonymous

    She is probably a silent  partner or board member.

  • Anonymous

    She is probably a silent  partner or board member.

  • Anonymous

    All this means is they found an interested buyer.  No deal has been reached.  This may be good news, but let’s wait until the ink is dry on a real. 

    Hate to be sounding like a skeptic, but something does not add up.  What does this firm know about running paper mills?  Their web site is not up, but does say that they finance projects and statements about green energy. 

    It sounds like hype.  Let’s wait and see and hope for the best.

  • Anonymous

    Because the Canadian scumbag who owned those mills/dams sold the dams to a relative who owns a Canadian power company basicly their goal was to destroy their competition. Hard to keep the doors open when the mills you bought got run into the ground for years and then your getting extorted on the light bill right after you start them up.(at least this is what some relatives in millinocket told me)  but hey thank god for free trade act right.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you to all that made this news possible, I hope this means the mills will be making paper again soon. If this is the case it will bode very well for our Governor and his team in Augusta, I truly believe this announcement wouldn’t have been made if it was still up in the air as to rather or not they( Cate Street) would follow thru with the deal. It is good news for our area. 

  • Anonymous

    Lets all thank the city council of Millinockett for their support through all this.

  • Anonymous

    I agree the competition in that industry is getting tougher and tougher.  As more and more people use the internet to pay their bills, communcate with friends, read newspapers, etc., the postal service is in for hard times, and so are the paper mills.  The Twin Rivers mill in Madawaska recently announced it is going more and more into specialty paper to stay alive…for how long is anyone’s guess.  I was talking with an ex-Frasier senior executive a couple of years ago…he did not think the future of the paper making industry in the USA and Canada was too bright.

  • Anonymous

    Now the dopers won’t have to rob Rite Aid anymore.

  • Anonymous

    Naa I call it the Mike Michaud Pork Barrel Congress trail.

  • Anonymous

    Naa I call it the Mike Michaud Pork Barrel Congress trail.

  • Anonymous

    Naa I call it the Mike Michaud Pork Barrel Congress trail.

  • Anonymous

    Naa I call it the Mike Michaud Pork Barrel Congress trail.

  • Anonymous

    Naa I call it the Mike Michaud Pork Barrel Congress trail.

  • Anonymous

    Naa I call it the Mike Michaud Pork Barrel Congress trail.

  • Anonymous

    Green and Millinocket could be salt in a wound. I will have to play some Dylan and contemplate.

    Come mothers and fathersThroughout the land
    And don’t criticizeWhat you can’t understand
    Your sons and your daughtersAre beyond your command
    Your old road is Rapidly agin’.
    Please get out of the new one
    If you can’t lend your hand
    For the times they are a-changin’.

  • Anonymous

    How many years do you give this company before they take what they can and close up shop?

    Yup some will be happy to go back to the status quo……a one pump town. Others actually want a future beyond the mills.

  • Anonymous

    You put the best man in the state on the task and look what happens.  The dems. killed the paper industry and now our beloved Governor has created another Waterville Miracle.  Can you say 4 more years!  Thank you Governor LePage!

  • Anonymous

    that’s why millinockets mill hasn’t run in how long? They used to make coated paper…..

  • Anonymous

    “to bring innovative and diverse energy sources to the region.”

    Doesn’t sound like they’ll be making paper other than greenbacks from producing power!!

  • Anonymous

    “Manufacturing has a strange way of rebirth, and will employ more, pay more and do more for the area than Quimby’s dream of self-immortalization.”

    I think that it’s a tad bit too early to tell…

  • Anonymous

    “Manufacturing has a strange way of rebirth, and will employ more, pay more and do more for the area than Quimby’s dream of self-immortalization.”

    I think that it’s a tad bit too early to tell…

  • Anonymous

    “Manufacturing has a strange way of rebirth, and will employ more, pay more and do more for the area than Quimby’s dream of self-immortalization.”

    I think that it’s a tad bit too early to tell…

  • Anonymous

    I view this as I do any other capital investment firm….buy low …sell high…there is no long term here

  • Anonymous

    I view this as I do any other capital investment firm….buy low …sell high…there is no long term here

  • Anonymous

    I view this as I do any other capital investment firm….buy low …sell high…there is no long term here

  • Anonymous

    I blame Bush.

  • Anonymous

    I blame Bush.

  • Anonymous

    Answer to your question: because the left has made EVERYTHING all about Bush and LePage: the weather, the mills, the fact that my lawn needs mowing………everything.
    That is why.

  • Anonymous

    Answer to your question: because the left has made EVERYTHING all about Bush and LePage: the weather, the mills, the fact that my lawn needs mowing………everything.
    That is why.

  • Anonymous

    Answer to your question: because the left has made EVERYTHING all about Bush and LePage: the weather, the mills, the fact that my lawn needs mowing………everything.
    That is why.

  • Anonymous

    Answer to your question: because the left has made EVERYTHING all about Bush and LePage: the weather, the mills, the fact that my lawn needs mowing………everything.
    That is why.

  • Anonymous

    Does that mean you are a liberal?
    Just asking.

  • Anonymous

    Does that mean you are a liberal?
    Just asking.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah!
    (subtext: “hope it doesn’t happen, so that LePage can’t take credit”).

  • Anonymous

    Yeah!
    (subtext: “hope it doesn’t happen, so that LePage can’t take credit”).

  • Anonymous

    Yeah!
    (subtext: “hope it doesn’t happen, so that LePage can’t take credit”).

  • Anonymous

    Yeah!
    (subtext: “hope it doesn’t happen, so that LePage can’t take credit”).

  • poormaniac

    Isin’t it odd that the company ( Brookfield ) that owns the dams cited the high price of fuel as the reason for closure.  I’d guess that BDN again failed to report the whole story or the people of the area were duped.  I hope and pray this deal goes through and this company gets to use the hydro that was created by the people of this area to benefit this area.

  • poormaniac

    Isin’t it odd that the company ( Brookfield ) that owns the dams cited the high price of fuel as the reason for closure.  I’d guess that BDN again failed to report the whole story or the people of the area were duped.  I hope and pray this deal goes through and this company gets to use the hydro that was created by the people of this area to benefit this area.

  • poormaniac

    Isin’t it odd that the company ( Brookfield ) that owns the dams cited the high price of fuel as the reason for closure.  I’d guess that BDN again failed to report the whole story or the people of the area were duped.  I hope and pray this deal goes through and this company gets to use the hydro that was created by the people of this area to benefit this area.

  • Anonymous

    I’d call it something else, but it would get censored…

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t the only game in town…..

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t the only game in town…..

  • poormaniac

    Read my comment to conservative reason above.

  • poormaniac

    Read my comment to conservative reason above.

  • Anonymous

    Actions do speak louder than words and the Governor and his administration accomplished the impossible!

  • Anonymous

    I am right here.  Nothing has happened yet, and even if the deal goes through, who’s to say in 2 or 3 years the cycle isn’t repeated.  People have been buying these mills for years and going under a short time later.  Kudos to Lepage and others for getting the ball rolling, I do hope this is different then the past and this becomes something long term.  Bottom line, maybe this buys Millinocket more time to try to diversify it’s economy so if the mills shut down again there is something to fall back on.

  • Anonymous

    I’m looking forward to hearing what kind of government handout Penguin, the anti-government handout Tea Party member, is handing out.  Those of you that think all is saved in Millinocket are now falling for the same false hope you had the last 3 times that place changed hands.

  • Anonymous

    I lived in Lincoln for about 4 years and wondered why, when we went back to school shopping at Zayre’s in Bangor, people would move away from us as we moved from one area to another. I am sure the residents of Millinocket and East Millinocket would welcome some of that paper mill ‘stink’ in the not so distant future.  I never did smell the mills from Baxter park. 

  • Anonymous

    wrong answer…

  • Anonymous

    wrong answer…

  • Anonymous

    You know very well why Sassy, Brookfield’s only interest was electricity, not papermaking. Don’t be obtuse.

  • Anonymous

    Please don’t make this political. It can’t be left or right. I am sure if a Democrat was in office the mills would have stood the same chance of starting. The area needs good news not posturing and blowing someones horn giving credit for the sale. If it wasn’t for past owners greed and mismanagement these hard workers would not have faced the past 10  years of turmoil. Great work by all-hopefully it comes true.

  • Anonymous

    if helping to find a buyer for the paper mills bestows the status of greatness upon governor, then add angus king and baldacci to the mix as well…

  • Anonymous

    if helping to find a buyer for the paper mills bestows the status of greatness upon governor, then add angus king and baldacci to the mix as well…

  • Anonymous

    It is the details that matter.  LePage’s spokesperson basically said the same.  I hope this happens, but we shall see.

  • Anonymous

    Read some lefty blogs. You will see mostly criticism for Obama and his entire administration. 

    Pays to look at both sides of issues. We need two parties in this country, and even more. Not one corporate party.

  • Anonymous

    Read some lefty blogs. You will see mostly criticism for Obama and his entire administration. 

    Pays to look at both sides of issues. We need two parties in this country, and even more. Not one corporate party.

  • Anonymous

    Read some lefty blogs. You will see mostly criticism for Obama and his entire administration. 

    Pays to look at both sides of issues. We need two parties in this country, and even more. Not one corporate party.

  • Anonymous

    Silly. If it isn’t a done deal, we can’t celebrate yet. It will be great if lepage or anybody else can get the mills running.

  • Anonymous

    Silly. If it isn’t a done deal, we can’t celebrate yet. It will be great if lepage or anybody else can get the mills running.

  • Anonymous

    Silly. If it isn’t a done deal, we can’t celebrate yet. It will be great if lepage or anybody else can get the mills running.

  • Anonymous

    How can you say that if it hasn’t gone through. 

  • Anonymous

    How can you say that if it hasn’t gone through. 

  • Anonymous

    How can you say that if it hasn’t gone through. 

  • Anonymous

    How can you say that if it hasn’t gone through. 

  • Anonymous

    I certainly always hoped that something positive would come from the mills, but exactly what are you all fired about? The deal isn’t even inked, there is no indication that anybody will be hired, and they don’t even say for what purpose the properties were bought. So if you are already tooting a kazoo and throwing confetti, you might be celebrating for naught. What if they sell the equipment for scrap and keep the dams and the real estate and hire 50 people? Are you willing to come back on here and say you were a bit premature with your hero worship? Doubt it. Crow is not something eaten in public.

  • Anonymous

    I certainly always hoped that something positive would come from the mills, but exactly what are you all fired about? The deal isn’t even inked, there is no indication that anybody will be hired, and they don’t even say for what purpose the properties were bought. So if you are already tooting a kazoo and throwing confetti, you might be celebrating for naught. What if they sell the equipment for scrap and keep the dams and the real estate and hire 50 people? Are you willing to come back on here and say you were a bit premature with your hero worship? Doubt it. Crow is not something eaten in public.

  • Anonymous

    I certainly always hoped that something positive would come from the mills, but exactly what are you all fired about? The deal isn’t even inked, there is no indication that anybody will be hired, and they don’t even say for what purpose the properties were bought. So if you are already tooting a kazoo and throwing confetti, you might be celebrating for naught. What if they sell the equipment for scrap and keep the dams and the real estate and hire 50 people? Are you willing to come back on here and say you were a bit premature with your hero worship? Doubt it. Crow is not something eaten in public.

  • Anonymous

    I certainly always hoped that something positive would come from the mills, but exactly what are you all fired about? The deal isn’t even inked, there is no indication that anybody will be hired, and they don’t even say for what purpose the properties were bought. So if you are already tooting a kazoo and throwing confetti, you might be celebrating for naught. What if they sell the equipment for scrap and keep the dams and the real estate and hire 50 people? Are you willing to come back on here and say you were a bit premature with your hero worship? Doubt it. Crow is not something eaten in public.

  • Anonymous

    this is great news but it isn’t political, it is real life. I would hope those that try to make it left or right put it in true perspective. One thing is for sure. The area needs good news after decades of mismanagement, corporate greed and lies from owners that crippled what once was one of the premier paper companies in the world. Let’s hope this next one is in it for the right reasons.

  • Anonymous

    this is great news but it isn’t political, it is real life. I would hope those that try to make it left or right put it in true perspective. One thing is for sure. The area needs good news after decades of mismanagement, corporate greed and lies from owners that crippled what once was one of the premier paper companies in the world. Let’s hope this next one is in it for the right reasons.

  • Anonymous

    this is great news but it isn’t political, it is real life. I would hope those that try to make it left or right put it in true perspective. One thing is for sure. The area needs good news after decades of mismanagement, corporate greed and lies from owners that crippled what once was one of the premier paper companies in the world. Let’s hope this next one is in it for the right reasons.

  • Anonymous

    this is great news but it isn’t political, it is real life. I would hope those that try to make it left or right put it in true perspective. One thing is for sure. The area needs good news after decades of mismanagement, corporate greed and lies from owners that crippled what once was one of the premier paper companies in the world. Let’s hope this next one is in it for the right reasons.

  • Anonymous

    Michaud is a conservative democrat. Call ‘em blue dogs. Why does everything have to be about right and left. Especially when it looks like we might really have something to celebrate.

  • Anonymous

    Gorham, NH, actually.

  • Anonymous

    At least the scrap metal guy didn’t get the mill for a dollar.

  • Anonymous

    The Katahdin mills never had a ‘stink’. The newsprint and coated papers they made did not use the same chemicals that the Lincoln mill did, and still does.

  • Anonymous

    I am sure that is the way you see it and that is your right. I am sure there are plenty of opened minded individuals who would not share your opinion.

  • Anonymous

    Nice try Bangorian, just can’t stand it can you?

  • Anonymous

    Bangorian, sometimes I feel a little bit angry with you, but more often than that, I feel embarassed watching you say some of the things you say, and I generally just feel sad for you when I read your posts.

    I hope someday, something happens to help you feel better about life and about yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Bangorian, sometimes I feel a little bit angry with you, but more often than that, I feel embarassed watching you say some of the things you say, and I generally just feel sad for you when I read your posts.

    I hope someday, something happens to help you feel better about life and about yourself.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! So true. That was the most transparent attempt at scoring an easy buck I have ever seen.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! So true. That was the most transparent attempt at scoring an easy buck I have ever seen.

  • Anonymous

    I actually feel more sorry for the people of Millinocket.  I hope that this latest opening represents a path out for those who choose to take it, and I hope it buys a little time for the people raising families there. 

  • Anonymous

    I actually feel more sorry for the people of Millinocket.  I hope that this latest opening represents a path out for those who choose to take it, and I hope it buys a little time for the people raising families there. 

  • Anonymous

    I actually feel more sorry for the people of Millinocket.  I hope that this latest opening represents a path out for those who choose to take it, and I hope it buys a little time for the people raising families there. 

  • Anonymous

    I actually feel more sorry for the people of Millinocket.  I hope that this latest opening represents a path out for those who choose to take it, and I hope it buys a little time for the people raising families there. 

  • Anonymous

    Jay C, this must be devastating news for you? I hope you are not to disappointed. Well if it does happen you can hope it will not last long so you can go back to dumping on everybody and everything in the Millinocket area. We love you and best of luck!!!!!!!

  • yowsayowsa1

     Some what like the blackmail that RQ tried to get away with when she put pressure on the ss clubs to support her park plan?

  • yowsayowsa1

     Some what like the blackmail that RQ tried to get away with when she put pressure on the ss clubs to support her park plan?

  • Anonymous

    I hear they’re gonna make bath salts.

  • Anonymous

    I hear they’re gonna make bath salts.

  • Anonymous

    The company I work has been owned more than one investment/holding company and most knew nothing about the core product/service. They hire management people with the experience in their respective fields to do it for them. Obviously the investor feels there is enough of a market to make it work.

  • Anonymous

    The company I work has been owned more than one investment/holding company and most knew nothing about the core product/service. They hire management people with the experience in their respective fields to do it for them. Obviously the investor feels there is enough of a market to make it work.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry such bad news for you SassyJenn, YEP such bad news..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry such bad news for you SassyJenn, YEP such bad news..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry such bad news for you SassyJenn, YEP such bad news..

  • yowsayowsa1

     I suspect that what you are REALLY hoping is that ALL the people in the Katahdin region move away so that you can move some more of your welfare consuming friends up from Massahampshire and Conn.

  • yowsayowsa1

     I suspect that what you are REALLY hoping is that ALL the people in the Katahdin region move away so that you can move some more of your welfare consuming friends up from Massahampshire and Conn.

  • yowsayowsa1

     I suspect that what you are REALLY hoping is that ALL the people in the Katahdin region move away so that you can move some more of your welfare consuming friends up from Massahampshire and Conn.

  • yowsayowsa1

     I suspect that what you are REALLY hoping is that ALL the people in the Katahdin region move away so that you can move some more of your welfare consuming friends up from Massahampshire and Conn.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Sure hope he doesn”t screw up the deal again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Sure hope he doesn”t screw up the deal again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Sure hope he doesn”t screw up the deal again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Sure hope he doesn”t screw up the deal again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Sure hope he doesn”t screw up the deal again.

  • Anonymous

    The dams can’t provide all the power these mills need. Steam generation is going to be needed regardless. I am not sure how anyone thinks they can just “take back the dams” from one private entity and give it to another but there is the process of relicensing them (in about 2018 I believe) that will be interesting.

  • Anonymous

    The dams can’t provide all the power these mills need. Steam generation is going to be needed regardless. I am not sure how anyone thinks they can just “take back the dams” from one private entity and give it to another but there is the process of relicensing them (in about 2018 I believe) that will be interesting.

  • Anonymous

    The dams can’t provide all the power these mills need. Steam generation is going to be needed regardless. I am not sure how anyone thinks they can just “take back the dams” from one private entity and give it to another but there is the process of relicensing them (in about 2018 I believe) that will be interesting.

  • Anonymous

    The dams can’t provide all the power these mills need. Steam generation is going to be needed regardless. I am not sure how anyone thinks they can just “take back the dams” from one private entity and give it to another but there is the process of relicensing them (in about 2018 I believe) that will be interesting.

  • Anonymous

    The dams can’t provide all the power these mills need. Steam generation is going to be needed regardless. I am not sure how anyone thinks they can just “take back the dams” from one private entity and give it to another but there is the process of relicensing them (in about 2018 I believe) that will be interesting.

  • yowsayowsa1

     DUH!

  • yowsayowsa1

     DUH!

  • yowsayowsa1

     DUH!

  • yowsayowsa1

     DUH!

  • yowsayowsa1

     DUH!

  • yowsayowsa1

     DUH!

  • Anonymous

    Why so upset about this news???

  • Anonymous

    Why so upset about this news???

  • Anonymous

    Why so upset about this news???

  • Anonymous

    Why so upset about this news???

  • Anonymous

    Why so upset about this news???

  • Anonymous

    The same ones who are criticizing liberals for not being enthusiastic about LePage, are the very same ones who are always negative of the Democratic leaders.  What hypocrisy to say otherwise.  The proof is there.
    If this action saves these paper mills and brings/keeps more jobs to that region, then that is a very good thing.

  • Anonymous

    Time will tell.

  • Anonymous

    Good post.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, but when they got buyers for the mills, you would not hear “kudos” from some .  Interesting , isn’t it…
    Hopefully this will be a long term solution, and not another temporary fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, but when they got buyers for the mills, you would not hear “kudos” from some .  Interesting , isn’t it…
    Hopefully this will be a long term solution, and not another temporary fix.

  • Anonymous

    Google them and then click the links on the Gorham mill. Then come back and tell me you still feel the same way.

  • Anonymous

    Google them and then click the links on the Gorham mill. Then come back and tell me you still feel the same way.

  • Anonymous

    jj have you googled them yet? ENERGY IS ALL THEY ARE INTERESTED IN! Sound familiar?

  • Anonymous

    jj have you googled them yet? ENERGY IS ALL THEY ARE INTERESTED IN! Sound familiar?

  • Anonymous

    jj have you googled them yet? ENERGY IS ALL THEY ARE INTERESTED IN! Sound familiar?

  • Anonymous

    jj have you googled them yet? ENERGY IS ALL THEY ARE INTERESTED IN! Sound familiar?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure Ms. Quimby’s national park won’t have any issues with the air quality near these plants, right?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OA4CY7VEIB2S453LCNHIVU5DMQ Joe Johnson

    I wonder if the people who are saying thank god we have lepage said thank god we have baldacci when domtar reopened. I know im glad we have lepage if hes going to make “cuts till it hurts”. Im guessing the poor are going to get those cuts since the rich got there estate tax cuts.

  • Anonymous

    Very naive.

  • Anonymous

    So you are going to act just like the left?

  • Anonymous

    So you are going to act just like the left?

  • Anonymous

    This sort of activity has been done — and completed — by other administrations. Kudos to LePage (should it prove successful) and to those other governors as well.

  • Anonymous

    This sort of activity has been done — and completed — by other administrations. Kudos to LePage (should it prove successful) and to those other governors as well.

  • Anonymous

    The Millinocket Mill did not make coated Paper when it closed it made high quality SCA grade.

  • Anonymous

    Michaud is far from the most liberal of the left, and from what I can tell, generally a nice guy. I’m not a fan of his, but I’m not going to burn him effigy either. I would like to see him be a little more proactive in supporting rural Maine, but I guess I don’t know what he sees his role as a Rep. of his district as.

  • Anonymous

    That’s true..there’s Pelletiers and Scootic, ahhh, Ferlands, and….ahhh…..the …..and. ahhhh..

  • Anonymous

    You’re kidding right?…

  • Penny Gray

    Fingers crossed, Millinocket.  Everyone’s rooting for you, regardless of all the bickering.

  • Anonymous

    So isn’t this new outfit.

    “Snowe said in a statement Tuesday. “Going forward, I am committed to help the new buyer invest in these mills to bring innovative and diverse energy sources to the region.””

  • Anonymous

    I guess it depends on where you were standing. The smell (stink was Arthur’s word) was and is that of prosperity whether a kraft or a sulfur process.  When the wind came up the river from East Millinocket those of us who lived on Aroostook Ave knew the mill was there… We could hear the mill whistle better then too.  

  • Anonymous

    Exactly Bart…What Happened…..nothing ’cause they can’t take back the damns.  Dreamers and schemers is all they are…let’s go down to the fin and feathah club and dream up some new ideas.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly Bart…What Happened…..nothing ’cause they can’t take back the damns.  Dreamers and schemers is all they are…let’s go down to the fin and feathah club and dream up some new ideas.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly Bart…What Happened…..nothing ’cause they can’t take back the damns.  Dreamers and schemers is all they are…let’s go down to the fin and feathah club and dream up some new ideas.

  • Anonymous

    at one time, the 2 mills ran 16 paper machines around the clock….it’s not beyond logical comprehension to think it possible to successfully run 2 or 3 machines….there is still a market for paper in this country….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    it hasn’t sold yet.  They only announced this today because the dismantling was to start tomorrow…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    it hasn’t sold yet.  They only announced this today because the dismantling was to start tomorrow…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    I grew up in Millinocket and the mills did stink.  And just before it would rain the air was so heavy you could taste the sulfur in the air….

  • Anonymous

    sounds like youre talking about exon

  • Anonymous

    sounds like youre talking about exon

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    there is no sale yet, not until the signature is on the dotted line….so go ahead and keep collecting your food stamps and unemployement.  Don’t give it up just yet…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    there is no sale yet, not until the signature is on the dotted line….so go ahead and keep collecting your food stamps and unemployement.  Don’t give it up just yet…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    we’re talking about Millinocket here.  I know the guys on the town council  They could screw up a wet dream….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    we’re talking about Millinocket here.  I know the guys on the town council  They could screw up a wet dream….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    we’re talking about Millinocket here.  I know the guys on the town council  They could screw up a wet dream….

  • Anonymous

    Conservative? You must be kidding! I did not think you could use Democrat and Conservative in the same sentence. You are right about something to celebrate about the mills. But do not confuse him with being a conservative.

  • Anonymous

    Conservative? You must be kidding! I did not think you could use Democrat and Conservative in the same sentence. You are right about something to celebrate about the mills. But do not confuse him with being a conservative.

  • Anonymous

    Conservative? You must be kidding! I did not think you could use Democrat and Conservative in the same sentence. You are right about something to celebrate about the mills. But do not confuse him with being a conservative.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    McDonald’s and hannaford

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    McDonald’s and hannaford

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    McDonald’s and hannaford

  • Anonymous

    What will you do now!

  • Anonymous

    Upset with the good news today?

  • Anonymous

    Upset with the good news today?

  • Anonymous

    sure it was

  • Anonymous

    sure it was

  • Anonymous

    sure it was

  • Anonymous

    You want to know why people are negative about Democrats because Democrats always want to raise taxes, create more Failing Welfare Programs, borrow hundreds of millions every year, they claim they are good at Education but Maine ranks in the lower half in Education.  They only thing they care about is driving businesses, jobs and people away.  They care about appeasing their voting block which is Welfare Bums, Special Interest Groups, Environmentalists like Roxanne Quimby to keep them in power.  They also are also good at picking our while filling theirs they are nothing but thieves, bandits who run away like spineless gutless cowards.

  • Anonymous

    Not true

  • Anonymous

    I have more faith in him than I would Baldacci.  All Baldacci would do is come in after the damage is done and give his bleeding heart warm fuzzy speech to make it look like he is doing something.  The times Baldacci tried to do something each time it has failed Old Town Mill, The Sardine Plant in Downeast Maine that is now a Lobster Plant,  Baileyville Mill,  The Tribes  Pharmacy Plant (PIN RX) he took advantage of the Indian Tribes.   The only thing Baldacci is good at is Expanding Welfare, The Hot Air, Lies and Corrupt ideas the he thinks of , and him falling and breaking his ribs and hurting his ankle numerous times.   I am glad Baldacci and Dems are out of power they did nothing for average working Mainers and all they did  was keep on wasting taxpayers money.

  • Anonymous

    He and the rest of the Liberals on here want us to support their stupid Park of Roxanne Quimby’s.  That park would only create a few useless low wage Government Jobs.  It would have us shackled to the Obama Administration and the Emperor Obama impose his radical views on us.  If these parks are such a great Idea why isn’t every state rushing to create one?.   The only plan coming from Liberals to get the economy going is Obamacare, Another Failed Stimulus/Jobs Plan,  Quimby’s Park,  More Taxes,  More Welfare Programs, Borrowing more money,  Gay Marriage.   The fact is the Democrats have no Plan to create jobs only a plan to drive us into the poor house more.

  • Anonymous

    Oh quit crying, this is good news for the people of the Katahdin area. you act the way you do because you are thinking this may hurt your efforts for the NP. Unbelievable.

  • Anonymous

    It seems clear that the one valuable asset that was part of the Millinocket bundle is the hydro-generation dams, the one big bad liability was the filled-up landfill full of toxic waste. So now the last owners stripped off the valuable part, and the state got suckered into taking on the liability. What’s next? Who knows? 
    But the sad reality is that the world is full of vulture capitalists, and they know a bird’s nest on the ground when they see one. Almost all the factions of the Maine political menagerie unite in rooting for the mills to get up and running, and if takes a few millions of taxpayer’s money, well, isn’t that what taxpayers are for? And same thing with tax abatements, and looking the other way on discharges, and finally, standing there looking kinda surprised when the new saviour pulls out of town, laughing all the way to the bank, and all we’ve got to show for it is a “Kick Me” sign stuck on the seat of our pants.
    Ain’t capitalism grand?

  • Anonymous

    I do not think this is going to hurt the efforts to do a feasibility study for the park. I actually think it might help. Green companies/green energy……it’s a good thing! Means they won’t mind being held to a higher standard of air emissions!

  • Anonymous

    Now just what did LePage do? It would be very interesting to know his direct input. This could very well be just another steal the thunder to make him look good. He is a jerk, always has been a jerk and will always be a jerk. Come-on give the details of his direct input.
    This may be a great thing and I pray it goes through for the potential employees who need this. I doubt however, that LePage has ANY input as stated. Just where did he get his knowledge about this type of business to add any positive input? I am sure many others including Pelletier had a lot of input and thank god for that. It just irks me to try and make people think LePage had any positive input into this. What a joke.
    I know all you republicans need some positive news, now go out and earn it.

  • Anonymous

    Now just what did LePage do? It would be very interesting to know his direct input. This could very well be just another steal the thunder to make him look good. He is a jerk, always has been a jerk and will always be a jerk. Come-on give the details of his direct input.
    This may be a great thing and I pray it goes through for the potential employees who need this. I doubt however, that LePage has ANY input as stated. Just where did he get his knowledge about this type of business to add any positive input? I am sure many others including Pelletier had a lot of input and thank god for that. It just irks me to try and make people think LePage had any positive input into this. What a joke.
    I know all you republicans need some positive news, now go out and earn it.

  • madhattah

    I have no problem admitting that I am disappointed in this Governor. But I also have no problem admitting that if he pulls this off that he has done something good for this area. It isn’t a done deal yet as anyone can sign a purchase and sales agreement and then for whatever reason walk away. Either side. I hope this happens, the deal that is, and I am more than a little pleased (and relieved) that it isn’t a mini-Monsanto. No matter how I feel about LePage I can still give credit when and where it’s due and will…

    So there is my chime fwiw.

  • Anonymous

    They are too busy affixing their silly stickers on their cars and hanging out on the Maine Peoples Alliance Facebook page to bother responding.

  • Anonymous

    They are too busy affixing their silly stickers on their cars and hanging out on the Maine Peoples Alliance Facebook page to bother responding.

  • Anonymous

    Ok then please stop crying about the good news.

  • Anonymous

    Ok then please stop crying about the good news.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinging all this about LePage. Now again, just what did HE do?

  • Anonymous

    4 more days would be better!

  • Anonymous

    4 more days would be better!

  • Anonymous

    I won’t always be negative of Democratic leaders – when they do something good, I say so.

    A lot of them voted for the pension reform package that the governor is getting his brains beat out for by the unions. I commend the Democrats for having the guts to help get that mess fixed.

    Some of them voted for the health insurance reform bill, they did well on that too, and some of them voted for welfare reform too.

    See! Credit where it is due.

  • Anonymous

    I won’t always be negative of Democratic leaders – when they do something good, I say so.

    A lot of them voted for the pension reform package that the governor is getting his brains beat out for by the unions. I commend the Democrats for having the guts to help get that mess fixed.

    Some of them voted for the health insurance reform bill, they did well on that too, and some of them voted for welfare reform too.

    See! Credit where it is due.

  • Anonymous

    I won’t always be negative of Democratic leaders – when they do something good, I say so.

    A lot of them voted for the pension reform package that the governor is getting his brains beat out for by the unions. I commend the Democrats for having the guts to help get that mess fixed.

    Some of them voted for the health insurance reform bill, they did well on that too, and some of them voted for welfare reform too.

    See! Credit where it is due.

  • Anonymous

    I won’t always be negative of Democratic leaders – when they do something good, I say so.

    A lot of them voted for the pension reform package that the governor is getting his brains beat out for by the unions. I commend the Democrats for having the guts to help get that mess fixed.

    Some of them voted for the health insurance reform bill, they did well on that too, and some of them voted for welfare reform too.

    See! Credit where it is due.

  • Anonymous

    Wait until we see how much the landfill (dump), cost to operate. No way should the tax payers have to fund a mess like this. How much research has been done to research what the life term is for the landfill. Will a new one need to be build, who pays for closing any or all of it etc.? There is a lot of detail to operating a paper mill landfill. This could be a drastic mistake if the state takes the responsibilty for this.

  • Anonymous

    The Old Town mill is up and running just fine thanks to Mr. Baldacci . As someone who worked there for 37 years I thank Mr. Baldacci and Jack Cashman for their efforts. Get your facts straight.

  • Anonymous

    i thought that you were sorry for the people of millinocket…..now you actually worry….

  • Anonymous

    i thought that you were sorry for the people of millinocket…..now you actually worry….

  • Anonymous

    Sulfur dioxide. Actually more harmful than the stink from Lincoln.

  • Anonymous

    Third time’s a charm.  Another thing I agree with you on.

  • Anonymous

    Very lean. 

  • Anonymous

    Very lean. 

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    OK, here’s a thought: History strongly suggests that this isn’t going to work, and in the long run we in the Katahdin region will find that we’d have been better off if it hadn’t been done.

  • Anonymous

    Google: Brookfield Asset Management.     I’m sure you will find it interesting.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    How is going back to a dry well for a third helping of mud “moving forward”?  That’s like saying GM would be making progress if it brought back the 1978 Buick Century.

  • Anonymous

    Do you think this outfit is going to be any different?   Do you think the management running the mills is going to be any different?   

  • Anonymous

    Do you think this outfit is going to be any different?   Do you think the management running the mills is going to be any different?   

  • Anonymous

    Pretty skimpy website.   Wasn’t it?   A whole lotta nothin’.

  • Anonymous

    But the Republicans HATE labor unions!!!    So you can’t win!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Not with only three machines still on the premises.   500 employees is a stretch.  Unless they are going to be like the last owner with a 4 to 1 worker/management ratio.

  • Anonymous

    Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.

  • Anonymous

    It won’t make any difference.  The dopers won’t work at the mill anyway.  Emphasis on ‘won’t work’.

  • Anonymous

    They said that thet are going to start on virgin (meaning non-recycled wood pulp) newsprint.  Which tells me they are going to sell to the Asian market.

  • Anonymous

    My buddy works in the Lincoln mill. Things were great when it reopened, the management and union were working together for a common cause, to see if the new owners could make it work. Slowly, things changed. Now, management are back being jerks disrespecting the union and acting like they started thing up all by themselves. The pink slips are flying for petty reasons, and the new work rules are changed at the company’s whim, always in their favor. This could be a time for transformation for the Mil. and E mil. region. Be careful what you ask for with the mills restarting, you might get it.

  • Anonymous

    Those coated machines are now holes in the floor.

  • Anonymous

    Are we going to have to start calling her “Live Shot lll”?

  • Anonymous

    Yo-yo.

  • Anonymous

    No, some republicans just want the labor unions to represent labor, not be funnels for money to go back to democrat campaigns. Unions spending the dues of their members on politics while knowing not all members agree with the politics is just plain wrong. So is the idea that Democrats are the best representatives of labor. Tell me, with unemployment high and the middle class taking a beating under Obama and Democrat majorities, how good a job have they really done for “labor” in this country?

    I would think working people would be happy to have jobs instead of having a noisy union urging them to picket the very people trying to kick-start the economy.

  • Anonymous

    They still need fuel to fire the boilers to make steam to dry the paper.  The dams were for generating electricity

  • Anonymous

    As I stated to Bartneally.  The dams were for generating electricity.  The fuel is used to make steam for paper drying and to a lesser extent heating the buildings.

  • Anonymous

    You may get your wish.  One of the obstacles that are being alluded to is the unions.   I think one will find that seniority and recall rights might not be honored.   People are going to have to apply for their jobs.  So, if you want a job at one of these mills, you may be in luck. 

  • Anonymous

    “there are many other types, especially coated/specialty papers that are quite viable. “  Ya, NewPage lost $132 million last year selling coated publication papers.  But the specialty paper market is better this year than last.

  • Anonymous

    You and I are both reading this on a computer screen.  There’s two newspapers that aren’t going to get purchased.  In fact, I haven’t purchased a newspaper in 3-4 years.  That leaves books, which are going to the Kindle; printed Ad’s which are obsolete and tissue paper, which can be made cheaply and imported from dozens of other places, where workers with no education don’t demand salaries of $50K+.

  • Anonymous

    If your buddy is so upset why does he not leave and find another job?

  • Anonymous

    LOL – you do realize that Penguin created a “stimulus/jobs plan” in order to get someone to purchase this mill, right?  You are talking out of both sides of your mouth and you don’t even know it.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking about the same thing. It sure doesn’t look like something you would expect from a company that can raise $6 Billion does it.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking about the same thing. It sure doesn’t look like something you would expect from a company that can raise $6 Billion does it.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, don’t believe in hate.
    Just answered the question, Buddy…..just answered the question.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, true…………the left criticizes the few non-socialist Dems who won’t jump on the hatred pig pile.  But criticism isn’t mindless antipathy and hate.
    Hatred of………..oh forget it.

  • Anonymous

    Subtext: “God I hope it doesn’t good through, even though it would be a good thing. Can’t have LePage looking good….”

  • Anonymous

    Bangorian had a bad day………….LePage helped the mill deal move forward.
    Cheer up.

  • Anonymous

    But you hope even more that he does screw it up.Would make him look bad, after all.
    Just sayin’….

  • Anonymous

    But you hope even more that he does screw it up.Would make him look bad, after all.
    Just sayin’….

  • Anonymous

    But you hope even more that he does screw it up.Would make him look bad, after all.
    Just sayin’….

  • Anonymous

    Hate much? It’s warping your brain.

  • Anonymous

    Never ever forget who the union steward was 12 years ago who decided to “play hardball” with Great Northern……….and who contributed more than any other person to the mills getting shut down.
    His name was Mike Michaud.
    But then, he went off and got a diffeent job, so who cares?

  • Anonymous

    Quit yer bi………

  • Anonymous

    And my income property.
    I’m surprised: holding one’s breath is a common activity by young children and the left…..but I repeat myself.

  • Anonymous

    you don’t read between the lines very well…

  • Anonymous

    you don’t read between the lines very well…

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget Mike Michaud’s role when he worked there.

  • Anonymous

    I think I personally push enough paper over the transom at work in one week to keep those mills operating for a month…….
    Just saying!

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, and there is NO WAY that company would have considered coming to Maine without the new pro-business environment that is slowly being instituted. Those companies pay attention and they know that the state is changing and becoming more business friendly. That’s what they needed to see. They do not make decisions without considering which direction things are heading……

  • Anonymous

    from another article at mainebiz dot com “Cate Street Capital Senior Vice President Richard Cyr said the company
    still must “resolve all outstanding issues over the next few weeks,” and
    that “numerous conditions…must be met before the deal can be closed.”"

    That was the same sort of statement that Meriturn made and things fell apart in a big way after that. It’s far from done at this point. I can’t wait to see what conditions they want. The state already has taken the liability of the sludge dump on. I’m sure they are going to be looking for a TIF or some other tax break like they did with one project…..they got a 20+ year abatement on their taxes to reopen….and hopefully they hire back close to the number of workers that they had previously at the mill and not 70 (of 550) like they did the last mill they purchased….5 months after the purchase at that.

    Do a little research and check the company out. I really hope it goes through but won’t be surprised if it doesn’t. Our community does need this! I just hope the bottom line cost isn’t too much for these small towns. So call me negative, tell me to quit bi…. but look it up yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I read that. I was hoping that Snowe was just ignorant of the fact that these were paper mills shut down since she couldn’t find Millinocket with a Master Maine Guide, Google Map, or GPS. But, being an eternal optimist despite repeated reasons for not being one, I trudge on until that nimrod from Medway starts up his torch and begins taking pieces of the mill to Merrill’s dock in Portland for shipment to China.

  • Anonymous

    lol I do have to appologize though to some, I actually do know some conservative Democrats. I could of gone a step further and said both our 2 Representatives and Senators are not Conservative.

  • Anonymous

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    One thing about the lefties that you could never understand. They think. Do not walk in lock step with their leader. It has been said…like dealing with a herd of cats. Want good for the country and not just the rich, white etc.

  • Anonymous

    I almost thought they had learned to stay quit until a definative deal was struck

  • Anonymous

    I almost thought they had learned to stay quit until a definative deal was struck

  • Anonymous

    If you really want to see these mills restart, put down your laptop and go buy a newspaper.

  • Anonymous

    To all the LIEpage kool-aid swillers who are signaling this as some sort of keystone achievement for the LIEpage administration…Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it…and I’ll keep watching. So far the details are sketchy and nothing of substance has happened.

    So tell me…if this turns out to be a TOTAL BUST like the LAST TIME, who will you blame this time???

  • Anonymous

    Cumberland Island National Seashore, at Cumberland Island, Georgia, is within a few miles of a big paper mill at St. Mary’s, Georgia. Doesn’t seem to be a problem. 

  • Anonymous

    Well said.

  • Anonymous

    “Liberals”, of course……..

  • Anonymous

    Though my newspaper buying days are way off their peak (though I still buy them) I use more paper now than ever. Anyone with a printer knows what a print button is. And my use of paper has gone up dramatically both at home and at work. The way we use paper is what’s changed. And BTW-I just spent a fortune on books for my kids at college. There’s always going to be a market for different types of paper. It just depends on how many mills compete to make the same product. Those who do it efficiently and at the lowest cost will survive. My experience in shipping tells me that with the high cost of shipping goods the high price of oil may level the salary factor somewhat.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…….seriously?

    What exactly is the “Waterville Miracle”?…….. That there are more young women wheeling baby strollers around downtown with a cigarette in one hand and a DD Coolata in the other? That many young men are sitting on steps around the city all day smoking, talking on their social services issued cell phones and staring at traffic? That all the former mills are dormant and filled with Mardens merchandise? Ahh, yes……….tell me just what LePage’s miracle is……….

  • Anonymous

    What deal have they walked away from?

  • Anonymous

    Unions are responsible for most of the industrial decline in this country. “Disrespecting the union” always prompts a gag reaction.

  • Anonymous

    Oh yeah?  Then how do you explain the dramatic drop in paper demand that has occurred over the past decade?  You may have ramped up your use, but nobody else has.  You sound like an encyclopedia salesman from the 1950′s who could imagine a day when his produce would be worthless.

  • Anonymous

    An excellent precedent.  Good to know the mills have nothing to fear from a park.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see you moving to Cuba anytime soon. Why is that?

  • Anonymous

    Very well said it so nice to here someone comments that has a positive attitude instead of a negative one all the time. I did not vote for Lepage but i do thing is trying to get this state back in the black and bring business to this state and jobs and there is nothing wrong with that. And yes it should not have anything to do with right or left as long as the job gets done.

  • Noah

    Good news.  The only positive news since this administration took office.

  • Noah

    Good news.  The only positive news since this administration took office.

  • Noah

    Good news.  The only positive news since this administration took office.

  • Noah

    Good news.  The only positive news since this administration took office.

  • Noah

    Good news.  The only positive news since this administration took office.

  • Noah

    Good news.  The only positive news since this administration took office.

  • Noah

    Who slanders who?

  • Noah

    Ever hear about oil companies and the $10 million salaries their exec’s draw?  Ever hear about tax-free multi million dollar corporations who pay no taxes?  Ever hear about off shore corporations who declare their HQ in the Cayman Isles to escape paying any taxes.

    The biggies have taken your jobs to China, Thailand, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Germany, Mexico.  That’s why jobs are scarce.   Automation also kills numerous jobs.

    But I bet you heard about welfare people buying bottled water and emptying it and collecting on the empties, just to buy something they need.

  • Noah

    Ever hear about oil companies and the $10 million salaries their exec’s draw?  Ever hear about tax-free multi million dollar corporations who pay no taxes?  Ever hear about off shore corporations who declare their HQ in the Cayman Isles to escape paying any taxes.

    The biggies have taken your jobs to China, Thailand, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Germany, Mexico.  That’s why jobs are scarce.   Automation also kills numerous jobs.

    But I bet you heard about welfare people buying bottled water and emptying it and collecting on the empties, just to buy something they need.

  • Noah

    Ever hear about oil companies and the $10 million salaries their exec’s draw?  Ever hear about tax-free multi million dollar corporations who pay no taxes?  Ever hear about off shore corporations who declare their HQ in the Cayman Isles to escape paying any taxes.

    The biggies have taken your jobs to China, Thailand, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Germany, Mexico.  That’s why jobs are scarce.   Automation also kills numerous jobs.

    But I bet you heard about welfare people buying bottled water and emptying it and collecting on the empties, just to buy something they need.

  • Anonymous

    great news–hope it happens and we can put to rest these comments on this subject , which always turns into political warfare. Good luck Millinocket…

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Is that 3 machines total for both mills? What’s the most they ever had?

  • Anonymous

    Yes let’s celebrate. With their combined intellect, tact, grace and foresight, they have once again distinguished themselves as a viable force to reckon with when it comes to solving the economic problems of the area.

  • Anonymous

    Nobody else has?  Surely your kidding. BTW-I only stated that the most efficient paper mills will survive and provide paper to a different kind of market.

    We worry about you……..

  • Anonymous

    What a stupid remark!  Let it go.  If this goes through, it’s a good thing.  Period.  

  • Anonymous

    Yep. peeled the paint off houses and on a few occasions cars. Good ole Millinocket. You could take a nice aviation fuel shower if you were one of the lucky ones that lived out by the airport and had a well tooooo. Biplanes spraying kids playing.
    Those were the days my friendWe thought they’d never endWe’d sing and dance forever and a dayWe’d live the life we chooseWe’d fight and never loseFor we were young and sure to have our way.La la la la…Those were the days, oh yes those were the days

  • Anonymous

    The local scrap dealer had a better plan than this! We will all be laughing when the company from away optimizes all of the power plants to sell more power, then scraps everything else.  

  • Anonymous

    Ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    This is an asset purchase not a company purchase. There is a major difference.

  • Anonymous

    This is an asset purchase not a company purchase. There is a major difference.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not really necessary to move to Cuba in order to enjoy the benefits of communist party control. By the middle of the next decade my guess is that the U.S.  economy will be under the effective control of the Chinese Communist party. A sort of leveraged buy-out as we seek to get out from under our bond obligations to the CCP.
    In the meantime, as our Free Enterprise system shuts down operations like the Millinocket mills, the government tries to keep it going, pouring money and energy into luring a private investor to come in. They come, they pick off the valuable bits, they dump the remains back onto the state. The slickest of these operations was the stripping-off of the hydro generation into Brookfield Management, which is headquartered in Toronto, located in the People’s Republic of Canada. 
    What will Cate Street do? Dunno. But since they’re in the “Green Energy” business, a good guess might be that they’ll operate the mills’ steam plants as biomass electrical generators. I won’t be surprised to see some pulping going on, with the pulp shipped to Korea or China, where they have invested in nice new paper machines, built by those fiendish communists at ASEA Sweden. If I were a betting person, I’d put up odds that none of the paper machines in Millinocket start up.

  • Anonymous

    KUDOS LePage!  …crickets from the 19% today on this massive victory for LePage.

  • Anonymous

    Why shouldn’t they, given the fact that labor unions mount the most despicable, character assassinations imaginable.  Love your enemy only goes so far; when they target your entire family like they did with Palin.

  • Anonymous

    as a former ‘leftie’ I now realize how we were manipulated by the intellectual  elite to do their dirty work. We showed up for every protest like zombies; and created a media presence on command. When we questioned the actions with facts, we were called dupes of the establishment and worse; and given some tract to read by Bill Ayers and his ilk.
    ….just keep drinking your KOOL AID and listening to ‘preacher’ Obama on how to ‘weather’ Hurricane IRENE…I love his sermons, they give me pleasure. 

  • Anonymous

    More likely a business executive who can talk the language of business; instead of some Liberal politico dragging around union organizers waving draft contracts. Electing LePage is beginning to pay off; time to forget what a shill John Richardson was for the unions.

  • Anonymous

    More likely a business executive who can talk the language of business; instead of some Liberal politico dragging around union organizers waving draft contracts. Electing LePage is beginning to pay off; time to forget what a shill John Richardson was for the unions.

  • Anonymous

    newsprint demand is down, but demand still exists….as well as demand for magazines, catalogs, books and advertising inserts……and other niche paper markets….i don’t see the current obsolescence that you do…

  • Anonymous

    newsprint demand is down, but demand still exists….as well as demand for magazines, catalogs, books and advertising inserts……and other niche paper markets….i don’t see the current obsolescence that you do…

  • Anonymous

    The NEA spent $300,000,000 on political campaigns.  How much went to Republican coffers?

  • Anonymous

    You’ve got me. Post a link, I’d be interested to know.

  • Anonymous

    All heavy fuels used in boilers have sulfur in them. Maybe as high as 4% or so. The result is Sulfur Dioxide in the emissions, i.e. “acid rain”. This is not specific to papermaking. I have lived here all my life and rarely smelled the sulfur, and I work with these fuels all the time (though not here). The amount of sulfur in fuel can only be removed in the refining process and severe limitations are now placed on the amount that can be in the fuel. Look at how low sulfur diesel has become the norm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    Spineless gutless cowards? Must be talking about bear baiters and Town Council members who cannot even provide a study for information about a Park impact.

  • Anonymous

    And you’re only talking about the businesses owned by natives…according to one of our ‘steamed councilors, our downtown and chamber is “infiltrated” with people from away.  They are, shoulder to shoulder with the ones you mention, trying to help the downtown survive.  They are the orphaned business district who all pay taxes and are not even considered part of the game, I guess.  The lack of support and recognition for our business district is sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    Nothing against the mills and jobs but Millinocket needs another feather.

  • Anonymous

    Did you read my post?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    George Bush was Liberal. Liberal with money he gave to the rich via tax cuts, liberal with military industrial complex contracts, liberal with the implementation of right wing judges after illegally firing Federal ones, liberal with stumbling over his own tongue, liberal with allowing oil companies drilling permits to drill in places they were not prepared to do, etc.

  • Anonymous

    They slander them

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMOQ5PNHSH4KE4VBJRAF2DAOTQ Grizz

    Well this deal hasn’t gone through yet. Look at Meriturn who signed an agreement in February 2011, only to break away from it in the following 30 days. Remember, Millinocket board of selectman were the ones to kill that….what’s to say they won’t do it again….Like Mark Scally chairman of East Millinocket’s Board of Selectmen said, he was unsure how any looming tax deal would affect his town. Town attorneys and the new buyer’s attorneys are working on it….I commend Gov. LePage’s and Pelletier for their success at getting Cate Street to sign a purchase agreement. Now it’s up to the town of Millinocket again to step up and work for a solution to get these paper mills up and running…You can’t have it all your way or the highway, because if this deal fall through, than the decommissioning by Brookfield will take place. Than the rest will be history….

  • Anonymous

    If you think so….

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure the people of Millinocket are comforted knowing that you worry for them.  BTW is your worry going to turn into any sort of action or will you simply pontificate from your arm chair?

  • Anonymous

    The only jerk here is you,,,, and yes, our Governor has been working with potential buyers, a function not seen in people like Michaud or Baldacci…! As far as specifics, your free to call the Governor…..

    .

  • Anonymous

    A group of Chamber representatives were the reason the 10k got cut, but what I am speaking of are a number of businesses that are looking at the Katahdin region for other than paper manufacturing…

    .

  • Anonymous

    Ronald Reagan, one of our countries greatest Republican Presidents was a life time union member

  • Anonymous

    I hope it will come true and not to throw cold water on the deal but, this statement is of concern …………. “It will take great effort and compromise from all parties,” Cyr added ……………… Maybe this time around things will work better.

    Of course, regardless Mainers are stuck with a toxic dump and Brookfield has the dams, worked out pretty well ……………………………………………  for Brookfield that is.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it will come true and not to throw cold water on the deal but, this statement is of concern …………. “It will take great effort and compromise from all parties,” Cyr added ……………… Maybe this time around things will work better.

    Of course, regardless Mainers are stuck with a toxic dump and Brookfield has the dams, worked out pretty well ……………………………………………  for Brookfield that is.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it will come true and not to throw cold water on the deal but, this statement is of concern …………. “It will take great effort and compromise from all parties,” Cyr added ……………… Maybe this time around things will work better.

    Of course, regardless Mainers are stuck with a toxic dump and Brookfield has the dams, worked out pretty well ……………………………………………  for Brookfield that is.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it will come true and not to throw cold water on the deal but, this statement is of concern …………. “It will take great effort and compromise from all parties,” Cyr added ……………… Maybe this time around things will work better.

    Of course, regardless Mainers are stuck with a toxic dump and Brookfield has the dams, worked out pretty well ……………………………………………  for Brookfield that is.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it will come true and not to throw cold water on the deal but, this statement is of concern …………. “It will take great effort and compromise from all parties,” Cyr added ……………… Maybe this time around things will work better.

    Of course, regardless Mainers are stuck with a toxic dump and Brookfield has the dams, worked out pretty well ……………………………………………  for Brookfield that is.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it will come true and not to throw cold water on the deal but, this statement is of concern …………. “It will take great effort and compromise from all parties,” Cyr added ……………… Maybe this time around things will work better.

    Of course, regardless Mainers are stuck with a toxic dump and Brookfield has the dams, worked out pretty well ……………………………………………  for Brookfield that is.

  • Anonymous

    Like BrimNess?

  • Anonymous

    Which administration? Obama’s? There are 400+ jobs going it the Leiston-Auburn area, announced a few months ago by Carbonite. And just today another 200 more jobs for that area. So I guess you must be talking about the Obama administration, the one that just shot down the AT&T-T-Mobile deal that would have brought 5000 jobs to the US.

  • Anonymous

    First of all drinky, it is LePage. Your childish name change lends no credibility to the rest of your post.

    LePage’s administration was directly involved in this deal, so some credit needs to go to him and his administration. I’m certain that if someone announces layoffs you will be the first lefty to jump up and blame him. Now I am not happy that the state let Brookfield off the hook with the dump. They should go back an attach all the previous owners to the bill for cleanup.

    And as for “the last time”, I assume you are talking about Meriturn. I suggest you look up the term “Stalking Horse”. That will explain that deal and what Meriturn was up to.

  • Anonymous

    Cry’s a real team player.  The only team I’d want him on the other one.

  • Anonymous

    No, nothing to do with Magic…. thank god

  • Anonymous

    The two Katahdin area mills don’t, nor can they, make printer (fine) paper.   They can’t make tissue in their present configuration.   The paper they do make has relativly limited applications.  i.e. newsprint, catalog and directory.   The SCA and SCB grades they used to make in Millinocket are also a specialty type paper with niche applications. 

  • Anonymous

    You make assumptions based on …?

  • Anonymous

    I remember back in the 80′s the Millinocket Mill had a car shower in the parking lot so people could wash the acid droplets off their vehicles.   I also recall that it cost the company scads of money to pay for the damaged paint jobs.   The damned stuff caused severe spotting on auto paint jobs.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that most of ‘em are covered in tattoos.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that most of ‘em are covered in tattoos.

  • Anonymous

    There will be kudos when it actually transpires.   There will be more kudos when they hire everyone back to work.    A lot of people are ‘gun shy’.   They’ve been stung too many times.  It’s way to early to be dancing in the streets.    Most of us are too old to be going through this again in the next 2 to 5 years.   I’m going on with my life.   Come what may.

  • Anonymous

    I’d probably continue with the schooling if I were you.  

  • Anonymous

    I’d probably continue with the schooling if I were you.  

  • Anonymous

    The State taking over control of the landfills will be a taxpayer burden.    Possibly State and federal. 

  • Anonymous

    If they rehire the same management that they had before nothing will change.      

  • Anonymous

    If they rehire the same management that they had before nothing will change.      

  • Anonymous

    If they rehire the same management that they had before nothing will change.      

  • Anonymous

    Probably because it’s the only game in town.

  • Anonymous

    Seventeen, not counting the wrap machine. With 4400 employees.

  • Benevolent Despot

    Thanks. I read your posts and agree with a lot of them.

  • Benevolent Despot

     It means what it says.

  • Benevolent Despot

     It means what it says.

  • Benevolent Despot

     It means what it says.

  • Anonymous

    I do both.

  • Anonymous

    I do both.

  • Anonymous

    I do both.

  • Anonymous

    I do both.

  • Anonymous

    No idea why you have such a large ego

  • Anonymous

    Why would you laugh?

  • Anonymous

    Why would you laugh?

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, that means a lot. I do the same.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, that means a lot. I do the same.

  • Anonymous

    So what you’re actually doing with this post is giving the Governor credit for it. I’m not sure you meant to do that.

  • Anonymous

    So what you’re actually doing with this post is giving the Governor credit for it. I’m not sure you meant to do that.

  • Anonymous

    So what you’re actually doing with this post is giving the Governor credit for it. I’m not sure you meant to do that.

  • Anonymous

    Is it because the council made threats of cutting the chambers money if the chamber didn’tvote for your resolve for a feasibility study?

  • Anonymous

    yup! it must be  hard for them to be green. lol

  • Anonymous

    I’m pointing out the you and your tea-drinking friends are hypocrites, who usually don’t understand the issues enough to justify the strong positions you take on them.

  • Anonymous

    I was reading in Today’s St.  John Valley Times where the mill in Madawaska is asking the town to reduce it’s taxes by another 1.7 million.  The reason given is that they are again experiencing difficult financial circumstances and want to avoid another bankruptcy.  The town needs the money so it will be interesting to see what happens here.

  • Benevolent Despot

    An asset purchase is just an agreement between two companies.
    I believe they define the assets and liabilities to be sold and the rights to conduct business.

    What assets and liabilities can be included or excluded from this sale?
    Assets can be anything from office supplies, real estate and machinery…

    It sounds like they don’t want to disclose any information publicly yet.
    I hope this works out for the area residents and it’s not another one of those deals that are dropped or only last for a while after dismantling the place and selling off the machinery.

  • madhattah

    The Blue Ox, Daigles Ice Cream wagon, and the man that used to be up on the hill Pine Tree Treasures or something…B. Shorey and some other man in Ferland’s block who is a furniture maker. Northern Lights  Art Gallery, a seamstress on the corner Beth’s Embroidery ( or something like that)  Steel Magnolias. And a couple others. Not what it was but not quite dead as yet. Still a far cry from the 70s.

  • madhattah

    The Blue Ox, Daigles Ice Cream wagon, and the man that used to be up on the hill Pine Tree Treasures or something…B. Shorey and some other man in Ferland’s block who is a furniture maker. Northern Lights  Art Gallery, a seamstress on the corner Beth’s Embroidery ( or something like that)  Steel Magnolias. And a couple others. Not what it was but not quite dead as yet. Still a far cry from the 70s.

  • Anonymous

    What’s to chime in on?     Another carrot?   There’s very little info about this company’s track record.   Environmentally and socially concientious?   Based on what?   From the information I have gleaned, they’re taking advantage of a desperate people in a poor economy.    The people in the Katahdin region have fallen for the savior on a white horse before and what has it gotten them?

  • Anonymous

    I voted for LePage.  I don’t particularly like him but he was a better choice than the jellyfish that was running against him.

  • Anonymous

    Zip, zilch, nada, zero.

  • Anonymous

    He didn’t have any choice.  To be an actor you have to be a member of SAG.  He was also SAG’s president.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    There was no company to purchase in a liquidation and most paper mill acquisitions are asset purchases.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    There was no company to purchase in a liquidation and most paper mill acquisitions are asset purchases.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    There was no company to purchase in a liquidation and most paper mill acquisitions are asset purchases.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    There was no company to purchase in a liquidation and most paper mill acquisitions are asset purchases.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Not to mention the stellar job Obama is doing with the NLRB in trying to kill a $1B Boeing plant in Charleston, SC that has already added 1,000 jobs with several thousand more to impact the area over the next few years.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Not to mention the stellar job Obama is doing with the NLRB in trying to kill a $1B Boeing plant in Charleston, SC that has already added 1,000 jobs with several thousand more to impact the area over the next few years.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    There was not much wrong with the previous management.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    There was not much wrong with the previous management.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I thought the Liberal Nation approved of tats and a myriad of body piercings.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    ExxonMobil is the largest green investment company in the world.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure you’ll find not a few people who would strongly disagree with you.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Of course, they will be known as the “have nots”.

  • Anonymous

    I never expected any less.   Considering seniority won’t be a factor in rehiring.  I’m sure vengeance will run deep.

  • Anonymous

    Within three years this company will get what they wanted and the mills will be scrapped.

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