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• Anonymous

  So what is wrong with elitists? 

  That is the dumbest thing anyone can say.  We have the best troops, right?  They are the elites.  We have the best workers, right?  They are the elites.  We have the best law enforcement, right?  They are the elites.  We have the best doctors, teachers, lawyers, factory workers, etc., etc. So, who are the elites we don’t like?

  Don’t we want to be the best in anything we do?  I think so. People who dump on elites are just bigots.  Let’s move past this terrible phrase and embrace the best among us, no matter what they do.

• Anonymous

  So what is wrong with elitists? 

  That is the dumbest thing anyone can say.  We have the best troops, right?  They are the elites.  We have the best workers, right?  They are the elites.  We have the best law enforcement, right?  They are the elites.  We have the best doctors, teachers, lawyers, factory workers, etc., etc. So, who are the elites we don’t like?

  Don’t we want to be the best in anything we do?  I think so. People who dump on elites are just bigots.  Let’s move past this terrible phrase and embrace the best among us, no matter what they do.

• Anonymous

  What tax base?  What mill jobs?  The only jobs at present are the the logging jobs.  The Millinocket area  mills are down flat.  Maybe Lincoln is doing OK but the same can’t be said about the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  What tax base?  What mill jobs?  The only jobs at present are the the logging jobs.  The Millinocket area  mills are down flat.  Maybe Lincoln is doing OK but the same can’t be said about the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let’s see: ‘wolf at the door’, ‘three hour show’, ‘federal zoning’,  and then a laudry list of things that the writer ‘suggests’ Ms. Quimby do with her money for the writer’s pet projects. Next comes the demonization of  ‘loss of freedom’ and ‘increased taxes’. Of course, we all know that the loss of tax revenue on this undeveloped land would be unnoticeable on property tax bills. And then let us bring the ‘standing army’ into play as a defense to this enemy; how subtle. I’m sure Ms. Russell will be donating her monies and fundraising  so that she may bring her suggestions on bettering the economy of northern Maine to fruition. You go girl.

• Anonymous

  What a great article that cuts to the truth. Speaking of wolves, do not forget that in National Parks they want to introduce the wolf. This from “National Park Conservation Association” How about ”

  Jim St.
  Pierre, said in the same article “MWNP (Maine Woods
  National Park” remains
  robust, in part, because Roxanne Quimby has made it tangible.” In 1994, RESTORE
  put forward the idea of creating a 3.2-million-acre park”

   

  What she is offering in this study is just
  the start to Restore’s vision of a 3.2 million acre National Park.Beware.Again, great article.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

  The writer wants Quimby to invest in development, four wheelers, snowmobiles, and timbering??? That’s part of the formula that has existed and failed already. Using the wolf as a metaphor is an indication of tired worn out rhetoric as well. Traditional use is only PRIVATE LANDOWNER PERMISSION. A park would not cure all of Millinocket’s woes but it would open up the invaluable resources we do have left for eco monies that are spent in billions around the country. This letter is nothing but cynical ramble that adheres to the stubborn lack of vision.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

  The writer wants Quimby to invest in development, four wheelers, snowmobiles, and timbering??? That’s part of the formula that has existed and failed already. Using the wolf as a metaphor is an indication of tired worn out rhetoric as well. Traditional use is only PRIVATE LANDOWNER PERMISSION. A park would not cure all of Millinocket’s woes but it would open up the invaluable resources we do have left for eco monies that are spent in billions around the country. This letter is nothing but cynical ramble that adheres to the stubborn lack of vision.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

  The writer wants Quimby to invest in development, four wheelers, snowmobiles, and timbering??? That’s part of the formula that has existed and failed already. Using the wolf as a metaphor is an indication of tired worn out rhetoric as well. Traditional use is only PRIVATE LANDOWNER PERMISSION. A park would not cure all of Millinocket’s woes but it would open up the invaluable resources we do have left for eco monies that are spent in billions around the country. This letter is nothing but cynical ramble that adheres to the stubborn lack of vision.

• Anonymous

  I see you are on your usual diatribe, the fact on wolves is they want them. That study was done in June of 2011, so it is not rhetoric. The metaphor that she uses you may think as too strong; sometimes it is necessary for those people fooled by a new false sincerity in my opinion. Maybe she was rhetorical in some of her suggestions.
  It is unfortunate that because of do not share her’s or your vision suggest I lack vision. It shows a lack of listening to others opinions that are contrary to your own. A park would also close those same resources. It certainly is your lack of vision that think this small part will not balloon into the 3.2 acres. That you may not be aware of land acquisitions that are working in the background as we speak. If you think people will come to the end of the road to spend thousands let a lone more, I believe unlikely.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• Anonymous

  Let see, the Katahdin region has absolutely no economic activity and people are without jobs. Logging is a very dangerous and difficult occupation. Very few people want to participate in this industry.  We are now a haven for people on welfare and collectiing off the state. I believe Cherly has too many creditials and very little passion for the people who actually live in the Katahdin area.

• PabMainer

  “The wolf is at the door”……”enlist in the battle and stand up to elitists who think they know best for the rest of us”…..and some people continue to wonder why business is desperate in our state….This lady (Ms. Quimby) is a land owner, obviously a wealthy land owner, and it sounds IMHO that the wolves are those who are standing in her way to do what she wants with her own land….it’s time to stop hoping that the mills in the area are going to make a dramatic comeback and revitalize the area, although IMHO, that would be fantastic, but appears mostly fantasy……how outrageous is it for the article’s author, or anyone else for that matter, to try to dictate how Ms. Quimby spend her money or respectfully use her lands?…..Crazy…..

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

  The fact is and always has been that the wolf coalition wishes for wolves to be left alone, not reintroduced. The wolf is a sad example of  social paranoia inflicted on youth in the Little Red Riding Hood mode. The real issue here is the mindset in Millinocket and Augusta that exemplifies that of people who once thought the Earth was flat. Land acquisitions may come the same way that Paper Company acquisitions came; by a free market. A Park would preserve the access that a PRIVATE landowner is donating and what economic lift came of it would be better than the one coming from stockholders who care nothing about Millinocket.

• Anonymous

  I will have to re-read their stands then, if they no long want to re-introduce wolves in Maine. A Federal Park would put a lot of new restrictions on those lands, regardless of who owns them now. It is unfortunate that we have a mind and can think for ourselves. If you call that a mind set so be it. Just because have have strong opinions in regards to a National Park in this area, they should not be dismiised as archaic. No more than your views should be dismissed, because I happen to disagree with them. She has changed her strategy from a bullying platform to a more cordial demeanor. That is a simple fact  you can read in her writings.

• Anonymous

  Hey, maybe your right Dictator Quimby. “resepectfully” is definately open to opinion.

• Anonymous

  Hey, maybe your right Dictator Quimby. “resepectfully” is definately open to opinion.

• Anonymous

  Hey, maybe your right Dictator Quimby. “resepectfully” is definately open to opinion.

• Anonymous

  Hey, maybe your right Dictator Quimby. “resepectfully” is definately open to opinion.

• Anonymous

  Hey, maybe your right Dictator Quimby. “resepectfully” is definately open to opinion.

• Anonymous

  Hey, maybe your right Dictator Quimby. “resepectfully” is definately open to opinion.

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  Roxanne’s land already has plenty of restrictions .  All 70,000 acres of it.  You can’t hunt on it.  You can’t use your ATV on it, no campfires. How many more restictiopns do you need.    She’s had some bridges torn out so you’ll need to wade a few brooks and streams to get to some places.  Do you realize that most of Maine’s western mountains are in a National Forest?. 

• Anonymous

  A National Park would even put more restrictions to her lands. I just posted a brief section of what she believes in. I am well aware what she has done (yes to her lands)Can you imagine those restrictions on a 3.2 million acre National Park?

• Anonymous

  I think she has a lot more passion for  people of the Katahdin Region than  you give her credit.

• Anonymous

  I think she has a lot more passion for  people of the Katahdin Region than  you give her credit.

• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Just because BDN isn’t covering mill progress, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

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• Anonymous

  Sure,,, economic development,,,, right.

  As far as wolfs, I really dont care, I have mine, and totally intend on keeping her…

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• Anonymous

  Once land becomes federal, it becomes our (taxpayers) business…

• Anonymous

  If Cheryl has little passion for the people of the Katahdin region then why do you suppose she attended the meeting? I can’t imagine there being any personal gain for her. You people cannot be that blind can you?  Go to Bar Harbor/Acadia National Park and order an ice cream. Listen closely as the “foreigner” cashier tries in his/her best english to repeat your order. Great paying  jobs right? Oh, and didn’t the Feds cut Acadias funding last year?   As for Logging being dangerous and difficult, when was the last time you visited a logging operation? Oh, and where do you suppose our pulp and paper products are going to come from: CHINA? Again, wake up people and do your homework!  We need Industry that pays wages and taxes. We need people coming to the region for a variety  of recreation not just to hike and paddle. We are rich with resources and the best way to draw people in is to  make fishing, hunting, R TVing, camping, etc available and at the same time manage our forest lands so they too continue to pay wages and taxes. We have benefited from logging, fishing, and farming for hundreds of years in Maine. There’s a reason why Plum Creek doesn’t contact the Federal Goverment to put their lands in a Park! Perhaps they know what is best for the ecomonics of their region. Call and try to get a campsite in Greenville, ME (good luck).  Personally, I don’t beleive that the Federal government nor Ms. Quimby  knows what’s best for our economy. Perhaps she should make an offer on the two Mills. Those jobs pay more than scooping ice cream. 

• Anonymous

  Cheryl hit it right on target- Quimby needs to win over area residents.

  Quimby “has” the right to do what ever she wants with her land, but the moment it becomes the property of “the people” then her fantasy becomes an issue…

  Quimby Land will not pass as is, and she has a very long way to go before any feasibility study can be considered..!

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• Tedlick Badkey

  Agreed.

  There is NO reason to waste the money that a national park would cost.

  If anything Roxanne, step aside and just let the NFS have it as national forest. Less restrictions, far less cost, and you get the protections for the land you want.

  The national park idea is an insult to every tax payer in Maine.

• Tedlick Badkey

  Agreed.

  There is NO reason to waste the money that a national park would cost.

  If anything Roxanne, step aside and just let the NFS have it as national forest. Less restrictions, far less cost, and you get the protections for the land you want.

  The national park idea is an insult to every tax payer in Maine.

• Anonymous

  Yeah, but the owner(s) of the ice cream shop are making out like bandits.  As far as the scoopers….boy, I don’t know.  My wages while working at the EastMill weren’t anything to brag about.  Have you seen the tip jars at the ice cream shop in Bah Hahbah? 

• Anonymous

  Yeah, but the owner(s) of the ice cream shop are making out like bandits.  As far as the scoopers….boy, I don’t know.  My wages while working at the EastMill weren’t anything to brag about.  Have you seen the tip jars at the ice cream shop in Bah Hahbah? 

• Anonymous

  Yeah, but the owner(s) of the ice cream shop are making out like bandits.  As far as the scoopers….boy, I don’t know.  My wages while working at the EastMill weren’t anything to brag about.  Have you seen the tip jars at the ice cream shop in Bah Hahbah? 

• Anonymous

  Yeah, but the owner(s) of the ice cream shop are making out like bandits.  As far as the scoopers….boy, I don’t know.  My wages while working at the EastMill weren’t anything to brag about.  Have you seen the tip jars at the ice cream shop in Bah Hahbah? 

• Anonymous

  Oh, I anticipate the opening of the mills with baited breath.  My heart is all aflutter  as to who or what is going to have truely serious intentions of running the Mill(s) the way they should be run.
   

• Anonymous

  Oh, I anticipate the opening of the mills with baited breath.  My heart is all aflutter  as to who or what is going to have truely serious intentions of running the Mill(s) the way they should be run.
   

• Anonymous

  Oh, I anticipate the opening of the mills with baited breath.  My heart is all aflutter  as to who or what is going to have truely serious intentions of running the Mill(s) the way they should be run.
   

• Anonymous

  Oh, I anticipate the opening of the mills with baited breath.  My heart is all aflutter  as to who or what is going to have truely serious intentions of running the Mill(s) the way they should be run.
   

• Anonymous

  Oh, I anticipate the opening of the mills with baited breath.  My heart is all aflutter  as to who or what is going to have truely serious intentions of running the Mill(s) the way they should be run.
   

• Anonymous

  Oh, I anticipate the opening of the mills with baited breath.  My heart is all aflutter  as to who or what is going to have truely serious intentions of running the Mill(s) the way they should be run.
   

• Anonymous

  “respectfully”?  “respectively”?      You say tomaiter, I say tomater.

• Anonymous

  “respectfully”?  “respectively”?      You say tomaiter, I say tomater.

• Anonymous

  “respectfully”?  “respectively”?      You say tomaiter, I say tomater.

• Anonymous

  “respectfully”?  “respectively”?      You say tomaiter, I say tomater.

• Anonymous

  “respectfully”?  “respectively”?      You say tomaiter, I say tomater.

• Anonymous

  I agree. A national forest is a great idea.  At least timber harvesting would be allowed while still preserving thenatural beauty of an area.  Also,most traditional forms of recreation would be allowed.  But, I’m afraid, it still wouldn’t change many minds or…. attitudes. 

• Anonymous

  I agree. A national forest is a great idea.  At least timber harvesting would be allowed while still preserving thenatural beauty of an area.  Also,most traditional forms of recreation would be allowed.  But, I’m afraid, it still wouldn’t change many minds or…. attitudes. 

• Anonymous

  I agree. A national forest is a great idea.  At least timber harvesting would be allowed while still preserving thenatural beauty of an area.  Also,most traditional forms of recreation would be allowed.  But, I’m afraid, it still wouldn’t change many minds or…. attitudes. 

• Anonymous

  Making out like bandits?  Who buys buys ice cream cones October through April in Bar Harbor?  Not much warmer in the Katahdin region during those months either.  Many Mom and Pop stores don’t have health insurance nor retirement plans however, they do pay payroll, property and income taxes.  Read the statistics, our State is not business friendly and until this changes business’ will not come here. Why can’t we have a vehicle manufacturing plant in Maine? Tennesse has one….oh, must be the high energy costs, property taxes, etc. My point is, we need more than ice cream and T-shirt shops.

• Anonymous

  Quimby has emphasized that the current 70,000 or so acres over which she wants to immediately abolish private property rights forever is only a “seed” for the full 3 million acre Federal takeover of other people’s private property.  She pushed for the full scope of millions of acres as a board member of Restore and still wants it.  The scopes of these planned takeover targets are inseparable, and once the Federal government becomes entrenched in an area they know how to expand the control.  They want tens of millions of acres, not 70,000 or 3.2 million.

  Quimby is opposed to private property rights on principle.  She told Yankee Magazine three years ago: “To me, ownership and private property were the beginning of the end in this country. Once the Europeans came in, drawing lines and dividing things up, things started getting exploited and overconsumed. But a park takes away the whole issue of ownership. It’s off the table; we all own it and we all share it. It’s so democratic.”

  But this scheme didn’t start with the organization Restore in the 1990s and was never, and is still not, “restricted” to a mere 3.2 million acres.  The National Park Service itself collaborated with the National Parks and Conservation Association (NPCA, the private lobby arm of the National Park Service) and several other big viro lobbyists and funders in the 1980s to plan for a massive expansion of Federal park takeovers of hundreds of millions of acres nationwide. 

  This is described in the multivolume “National Park System Plan” released to Congress and the viro pressure groups in the spring of 1988 by NPCA.  (It was soon “out of print” because too many people of the ‘wrong kind’ were seeing it.)  The intention was to, after the Reagan administration, pick up where they had left off with the massive 1970s expansion of Federal condemnation of private property for Federal parks.  (The carnage was curtailed, but not stopped, by limits on funding for acquisition, not because NPS and its lobby changed their minds.)

  The “NPCA” national plan includes taking over private property for five enormous new National Parks in Maine alone.  It specifically credits the national Wilderness Society lobby with the plan for the 3.2 million acre park in central and northern Maine.  The Natural Resources Council of Maine was the “local” front group for the media campaign for all the targets in Maine when they first began their national promotional campaign in 1988 (Jerry  Bley was the spokesman and press contact).

  When this ridiculous scheme went down in flames — along with the viros’ equally totalitarian Greenline scheme for land use prohibitions to be imposed on whatever private property was to be left in rural Maine and three other northern New England states covering 26 million acres — the New England director of the Wilderness Society, Michael Kellet, and his side kick Jym St. Pierre split off their then new radical Massachusetts group ‘Restore’ from the Wilderness Society in order to continue to proselytize for Federal takeovers.  Restore has been supported behind the scenes by the national viro lobbyists and its funders in order to keep their “vision” alive even though most of them knew it was impractical to pursuing politically at the time.

  Restore has emphasized the 3.2 million acre target in Maine but is on record as wanting most of the original 26 million acre target in northern New England to be taken over by Federal ownership (according to Kellet).  Restore board member Brock Evans, a former Audubon VP, further clarified the scope of the target in his infamous “take it all” speech at a meeting of viro leaders at Tufts University in Massachusetts in 1990.  

  But it doesn’t stop there. Restore’s stated goal has been Federal wilderness “ecosystem restoration” throughout a region they called the “north woods” encompassing the entire northeastern US and parts of Canada.  Forced “ecosytem restoration” on a massive scale is where the name “Restore” comes from.

  There are many good reasons why this failed scheme has gone nowhere in the last quarter century, but no one should should think their “vision” for “ecosystem restoration” has anything to do with helping “the economy” (currently promoted as a marketing ploy) and no one should believe that Quimby and Restore are only impractical “idealists”.  They are fanatics but they are well-funded and are thoroughly connected politically with the National Park Service lobby nationally.  (Quimby herself was appointed by Obama to the government-created National Parks Foundation).  They have the money to keep pushing with the frenzy of a pit bull-turned-stalker because they know they only have to win once.  Once in a moment of weakness an area goes under to Federal control there is no going back.  This is not a game and it is not innocent.

• Anonymous

  Quimby has emphasized that the current 70,000 or so acres over which she wants to immediately abolish private property rights forever is only a “seed” for the full 3 million acre Federal takeover of other people’s private property.  She pushed for the full scope of millions of acres as a board member of Restore and still wants it.  The scopes of these planned takeover targets are inseparable, and once the Federal government becomes entrenched in an area they know how to expand the control.  They want tens of millions of acres, not 70,000 or 3.2 million.

  Quimby is opposed to private property rights on principle.  She told Yankee Magazine three years ago: “To me, ownership and private property were the beginning of the end in this country. Once the Europeans came in, drawing lines and dividing things up, things started getting exploited and overconsumed. But a park takes away the whole issue of ownership. It’s off the table; we all own it and we all share it. It’s so democratic.”

  But this scheme didn’t start with the organization Restore in the 1990s and was never, and is still not, “restricted” to a mere 3.2 million acres.  The National Park Service itself collaborated with the National Parks and Conservation Association (NPCA, the private lobby arm of the National Park Service) and several other big viro lobbyists and funders in the 1980s to plan for a massive expansion of Federal park takeovers of hundreds of millions of acres nationwide. 

  This is described in the multivolume “National Park System Plan” released to Congress and the viro pressure groups in the spring of 1988 by NPCA.  (It was soon “out of print” because too many people of the ‘wrong kind’ were seeing it.)  The intention was to, after the Reagan administration, pick up where they had left off with the massive 1970s expansion of Federal condemnation of private property for Federal parks.  (The carnage was curtailed, but not stopped, by limits on funding for acquisition, not because NPS and its lobby changed their minds.)

  The “NPCA” national plan includes taking over private property for five enormous new National Parks in Maine alone.  It specifically credits the national Wilderness Society lobby with the plan for the 3.2 million acre park in central and northern Maine.  The Natural Resources Council of Maine was the “local” front group for the media campaign for all the targets in Maine when they first began their national promotional campaign in 1988 (Jerry  Bley was the spokesman and press contact).

  When this ridiculous scheme went down in flames — along with the viros’ equally totalitarian Greenline scheme for land use prohibitions to be imposed on whatever private property was to be left in rural Maine and three other northern New England states covering 26 million acres — the New England director of the Wilderness Society, Michael Kellet, and his side kick Jym St. Pierre split off their then new radical Massachusetts group ‘Restore’ from the Wilderness Society in order to continue to proselytize for Federal takeovers.  Restore has been supported behind the scenes by the national viro lobbyists and its funders in order to keep their “vision” alive even though most of them knew it was impractical to pursuing politically at the time.

  Restore has emphasized the 3.2 million acre target in Maine but is on record as wanting most of the original 26 million acre target in northern New England to be taken over by Federal ownership (according to Kellet).  Restore board member Brock Evans, a former Audubon VP, further clarified the scope of the target in his infamous “take it all” speech at a meeting of viro leaders at Tufts University in Massachusetts in 1990.  

  But it doesn’t stop there. Restore’s stated goal has been Federal wilderness “ecosystem restoration” throughout a region they called the “north woods” encompassing the entire northeastern US and parts of Canada.  Forced “ecosytem restoration” on a massive scale is where the name “Restore” comes from.

  There are many good reasons why this failed scheme has gone nowhere in the last quarter century, but no one should should think their “vision” for “ecosystem restoration” has anything to do with helping “the economy” (currently promoted as a marketing ploy) and no one should believe that Quimby and Restore are only impractical “idealists”.  They are fanatics but they are well-funded and are thoroughly connected politically with the National Park Service lobby nationally.  (Quimby herself was appointed by Obama to the government-created National Parks Foundation).  They have the money to keep pushing with the frenzy of a pit bull-turned-stalker because they know they only have to win once.  Once in a moment of weakness an area goes under to Federal control there is no going back.  This is not a game and it is not innocent.

• Anonymous

  Switching to the National Forest Service is a ploy for Federal control that has been used before when the National Park Service became too controversial.  All it does is change the color of the uniforms.  

  The viros have for decades been running a campaign to abolish logging, which is easier for them to get away with on Federal land of any kind.  They are constantly in the courts obstructing logging plans on public land.  

  They are also turning as much Federal land as they can get into Federal Wilderness where no roads or motorized vehicles are permitted by law.  This includes National Forests (and has already started along the Maine-NH border).  National Forests have also been subjected since the 1990s to de-facto Wilderness by the device of “roadless areas” imposed by the agency as an end run around the requirement for Congressional authorization of Federal Wilderness designations).  

  The National Forest Service drives out private inholders using every excuse that can concocted by activists within the agency.  Having to deal with the threat of Federal control is not something anyone needs, not matter what color uniforms they are wearing.  You never know what they are going to pull next and Washington agencies have no local accountability.

  All of these trends and problems are commonly known in the west where much more of the land is subject to Federal control. People in the east who are unfamiliar with all the problems caused by Federal land control in the west should be on guard not to fall for the “National Forest” ploy.  It is not a solution.

• Anonymous

  It’s closer than you think… ;-)

• listenuppeople

  When Rosanne left Maine she claimed she hated it in Maine and that she would never do business in Maine again… I wish she would keep her word!!!  Don’t trust her one bit, She thinks Mainers are stupid!!! and if it get approved then she will be right…

• listenuppeople

  When Rosanne left Maine she claimed she hated it in Maine and that she would never do business in Maine again… I wish she would keep her word!!!  Don’t trust her one bit, She thinks Mainers are stupid!!! and if it get approved then she will be right…

• Anonymous

  Quimby does not have a right to unilaterally make public policy permanently obliterating private property rights and replacing local representative government with rule by Federal bureaucracy. The notion that her “property rights” somehow are somehow supposed to allow that is a scam perpetrated by viro activists. They have no interest in property rights except to eliminate them. They are trying to befuddle and disarm those with a genuine interest in preserving property rights and con people into going along with their scheme based on a self-contradiction. They are attempting through statist sophistry to perpetrate and exploit a misrepresentation of property rights in order to eliminate them as a fundamental principle of American society.

  Again, Quimby is opposed to private property rights on principle.  She told Yankee Magazine three years ago: “To me, ownership and private property were the beginning of the end in this country. Once the Europeans came in, drawing lines and dividing things up, things started getting exploited and overconsumed. But a park takes away the whole issue of ownership. It’s off the table; we all own it and we all share it. It’s so democratic.“

• Anonymous

  Roxanne Quimby and the National Park Service are politically arrogant elitists who think they know better than the rest of us about how we should live our own lives.  They are trying to dictate to the rest of us that we must surrender our rights and freedoms so that we would be ruled by Federal bureaucracy.  The “dumbest thing you ever heard” is trying to equivocate between that and “the elite” as genuine accomplishment.  People who are truly the best at what they do using their own intelligence do not try to rule other people through force.  We are not “bigots” for rejecting power-seeking political elitists and
  their equivocating sophistry trying to con us into political submission
  to “elite” dictators. 

• Anonymous

   The writer is suggesting that if Quimby were sincere in her claims to care about “the economy” she would be investing her money into productive enterprise instead of a political campaign intended to obliterate its possibility.  The forced wildernes “ecosystem restoration” Quimby wants the Federal government to impose is the diametrical opposite of a civilized human economy.

  The “three hour show” was in fact a cynical, sophisticated marketing presentation on behalf of a Federal agency by long-time activists collaborating with the National Park Service.

  That the National Park Service pays essentially no property taxes on the land it takes over is the least of it.  The agency does in fact act like an occupying army suppressing freedom and the rights of individuals.  Taking over rural Maine as a Federal colony is what Quimby and Restore want.

• Anonymous

  Logging and the mills have been decimated economically thanks to the national viro lobby and its nation wide campaign for decades to stop logging.  They are doing everything they can to undermine and destabilize the economy in order to get the land.

  There is a long history of progressively accumulating regulatory intrusions in Maine that have obstructed production and cost the industry millions of dollars against the harassment. 

  The viros have an even easier time where the land is already controlled by the Federal government, as so much of it is in the west.  The mill towns that had depended on the National Forests in the Pacific Northwest are long gone thanks to the likes of the “spotted owl” Endangered Species controls and constant harassment in the courts routinely blocking logging plans.  Private property still makes it more difficult for the viro campaign, which is one reason why they want a Federal takeover of rural Maine. 

  They also want to ensure that no other private economy can survive and therefore need to destroy private property rights across the board.  Look at how the National Park Service and its viro pressure group harassed and threatened the Saddleback Ski Resort for twenty years near the Appalachian Trail in Maine.  Look at what they have been doing to property owners ensnared within the acquisition boundary of Acadia National Park.  Look at the viro campaign against local representative government in the UT, which they openly say they want kept in “darkness”.

  The disingenuous argument that the ‘mills are dying so let the Federal government take over’ is a dishonestly backwards, politically ‘self-fullfilling prophecy’.  The viros don’t want an economy; they want wilderness and “darkness” and will say anything to get it, including their entire dishonest marketing campaign claiming to be for “the economy”.