LePage dramatically reduces payments needed for pension, at a cost

Mark Armstrong of Lisbon and and Arthur Langeley of Durham show their support in March for Gov. Paul LePage's proposals to reduce Maine's budget by changing how the pension is funded.
Robert F. Bukaty | AP File
Mark Armstrong of Lisbon and and Arthur Langeley of Durham show their support in March for Gov. Paul LePage's proposals to reduce Maine's budget by changing how the pension is funded.
Posted July 13, 2011, at 5:03 a.m.
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Editors note: This is part 6 of an occasional series on the effects of the state’s pension costs.

The year is 2020, just nine years from now, and the state is facing one of its worst budget crises in years.

A new governor and legislature are grappling with the inescapable fact that before they can spend a penny on schools, roads or welfare, they have to pay a $760 million bill — almost all of it debt from the past.

The bill has come from the Maine pension system. And if the state doesn’t pay every cent of it right on time, it will be in violation of the Maine constitution.

The problem: the bill eats up 20 percent of the state budget — 10 times more than the court system or more than all the state’s colleges put together or nearly as much as Medicaid.

Under this scenario, the state would either have to increase taxes or dramatically cut state programs.

Until just a few weeks ago, that scenario was on its way to being reality, according to state pension and budget data analyzed by the Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting.

But a new law — LD 1043, the biennial budget bill — has created a new picture, one that promises to be better for the state’s fiscal health, better for funding state services — but worse for the 75,000 teachers and state employees who depend on the state pension system as their primary source of income in their retirement.

Former Republican state Sen. Peter Mills, who made pension costs one of his priorities in his 16 years in the Legislature, said the pension change “helps every single state budget in perpetuity … it’s an extraordinary thing.”

That bill — passed by a two-thirds majority vote in the Legislature and signed by Gov. Paul LePage — reduces future benefits to retirees. The reduction means that instead of the state paying $9.63 billion in pension costs between now and 2028, the cost will be $6.19 billion — a 35.6 percent smaller bill.

Looking at 2020 again, instead of a pension bill of $760 million, the bill is projected to be $480 million. And instead of representing 20 percent of the state budget (based on an annual growth rate of 3 percent), the pension costs would be 14.4 percent of the budget.

State retirees paid price

The savings come almost entirely by cutting cost of living adjustments (COLA) for state retirees, according to the budget.

For retirees — those retired now and in the future — that means their pension checks will lose buying power.

Previously, retirees could get up to a 4 percent COLA each year on their entire pension benefit, depending on inflation. Now, they will not get a COLA at all for the next three years, unless there is a budget surplus. After that, they could get up to a 3 percent COLA, but only on the first $20,000 of annual retirement income, which is about the average.

For retirees at or below the average, there may not be a noticeable loss in buying power so long as inflation stays at 3 percent or less. But a retiree with an annual benefit of $40,000, for example, would not get a COLA at all on half of his income, meaning that if inflation averages more than 1.5 percent, the value of his check declines.

That would not happen to the state employees and teachers if they were part of the Social Security system, which has a COLA on the full amount of the benefit. The state pension system is considered a replacement for Social Security. State employees and teachers have the state pension system instead of Social Security.

State employees have called the changes a new “tax” on their members that was used to reduce the state budget and fund a statewide income tax decrease.

The governor, legislators from both parties and others see it as an adjustment to benefits that doesn’t reduce retirement checks or change the eligibility rules, but was essential to putting the state’s fiscal house in order.

In an interview with the Center, LePage said he kept his campaign promises about the pension.

“Our goal was not to lower the pension payments to the retirees,” he said. “I think we did that … by freezing the COLA. The pension going forward is devalued a bit over the next three years. We knew that.”

LePage has justified the decrease in the cost of living adjustments as a “sacrifice” from state employees that is balanced by the sacrifices taxpayers have to make to pay for the pension debt based on the “unkept promises and assumptions of the past.”

Chris Quint, the executive director of the Maine State Employees Association, also talks of promises not kept.

State employees and teachers, he said, were “promised something when they retired — and the state has reneged on that promise.”

Bottom line: LePage initiated the pension debt reductions; the Legislature’s appropriation committee — Republicans and Democrats — came up with the final plan that LePage signed. The state budget was not decimated in the process, but the price was paid by current and future retirees whose pension will not go up in the future as they had planned.

The governor said he has a plan for mitigating that loss: He said he will ask the Legislature to eliminate income taxes on all retirement income — including state retirees.

“By doing all that,” LePage said, “all the adjustments we made and even the devaluations we made … your cash flow is not going to be affected” because retirees will make up what they lost in COLA by lower taxes.

One nonpartisan voice in the debate has been the 2010 report on reinventing state government by Envision Maine, a think tank based in Freeport. The report called Maine’s pension debt “a mess” and made cleaning it up its No. 1 recommendation for enabling the state to invest for “a new prosperity.”

Co-author Alan Caron said while his report did not recommend “charging current retirees, which is effectively what they did,” he said the governor and the Legislature “overall did some good work … it’s a pretty good first step. They turned it in the right direction.”

Sen. Richard Woodbury, an independent from Yarmouth, is the author of a study of public pensions and taxes for the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.

He said there is “no question” that the reduction on the pension debt not only made possible the tax cut but also helped restore some funding to health care for the needy.

The reduction of the pension’s unfunded actuarial liability (UAL) from $4.1 billion to $2.4 billion “is a big positive,” he said, but, like Caron, he questioned how it was paid for. He voted against the budget bill that included the pension changes.

“The people taking the biggest hit,” he said, are retirees with high income, who he estimated will take “effectively an 8 percent shift downward for their entire time of their retirement” if there is significant inflation.

One of the most widely consulted national experts on state pensions is David Crane, a special economics adviser to former California Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Crane, a Democrat, has written extensively about what he calls “pernicious displacement” — the hidden costs of pension debt that forces out spending on state services.

He called Maine debt reduction “meaningful” because that crowding out has been reduced by about a third.

Mills, an unsuccessful candidate for the Republican gubernatorial nomination last year, later advised LePage on the topic. After the scandal in the Maine Turnpike Authority earlier this year, the turnpike board named Mills as the authority’s new chief executive.

Unless there is a system for new hires (one will be studied), Mills pointed out these changes affect everyone retired now, working now and planning to retire and those who will be hired in the future.

Still, he said that while the way the pension costs that were cut “were pretty rough on the retirees,” the reduction in debt is “a big story.”

A veteran Democratic member of the appropriations committee sees the pension changes differently.

Rep. Peggy Rotundo, D-Lewiston, said that while it was “critically important to be fiscally responsible” and reduce the pension debt, the scope of the problem was “not as grave” as the governor and state Treasurer Bruce Poliquin made it out to be.

Stock market gains this year, she said, “are making things much better than they were.”

The S&P Index was up 7.38 percent for the year at the time of the interview. The Maine pension system projections assumes an annual 7.25 percent return on its investments over the next 17 years.

Rotundo said LePage’s original proposal, including reducing the state’s contribution to the pension while increasing the employees’ contribution, was “too extreme,” a view shared by most of the appropriations committee, which unanimously rejected that aspect of the governor’s legislation.

Pensions affect bond rates

The pension indebtedness has two major effects on the state’s financial health health. The first is the impact on the biennial budget — eating up hundreds of millions of dollars to pay for debt incurred years ago rather than paying for services needed now.

The second is what it could do to the state bond rating — the price the state pays to borrow money for major state projects and land purchases. The worse the rating, the higher the interest rate.

A review of two noted bond rating agencies’ reports in May show a number of critical comments on Maine’s fiscal condition, although there were also positive comments.

Standard & Poor’s rates Maine “AA negative outlook.” AAA is the rightest rating.

“We could lower the rating,” the report states, “if there are further significant declines in the state’s financial or liquidity positions. However, Maine began to rebuild its stabilization fund in fiscal 2010, and officials project improved liquidity and financial results for fiscal 2011. In addition, the governor’s [LePage] current proposed budget includes elements that would significantly lower many of the unfunded liabilities, and improve the financial position, although these have not yet been enacted. The outlook could be revised back to stable if Maine’s financial, liquidity, and liability positions improve through continued budget management measures and outcomes.”

Moody’s rated Maine as “aa2 stable outlook.” “Aaa” and “aa1” are higher ratings, but the ratings go as low as C.

Although Moody’s rating means the state has a “very strong capacity” to meet its obligations, among the negatives it cites is the state’s unfunded pension debt.

“Failure to adopt proposed pension reforms would lead to increased annual costs for state and teacher retirement system,” the Moody’s rating cites as one of the “credit challenges to the state.”

Two state officials in charge of the budget and debt said recent meetings with the bond rating agencies were encouraging because some of the negatives on the state balance sheet have since improved, including the pension debt.

Sawin Millett, the state’s chief financial officer, said, “I think they generally were favorably impressed with the direction we’re going in. We had strategies — I’m optimistic that we’ve turned the corner … the savings we’re achieving on the pension side, all of the structural changes we’ve made in this biennial budget, I can see the 2014-15 budget starting out without a structural gap.”

Poliquin, an unsuccessful candidate for governor who was later named by the Republican-led Legislature to be the new state treasurer, has been speaking all over the state since January about the pension debt.

He called the pension changes “very, very exciting. Breathtaking in its scope. It’s huge.

“By avoiding a downgrade by a bond agency — and S&P has a downward outlook — downgrading would have cost more interest payments and a black eye. That did not happen,” said Poliquin, a former New York investment manager.

Poliquin gave as an example the recent $108 million bond for roads, public lands and other projects approved by voters in recent referenda.

If Maine was downgraded one notch, he said, the cost of the 10-year bond would have been an additional $780,000 over 10 years.

John Christie is publisher and senior reporter for the Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting. He was a Reynolds Fellow at the recent pension seminar sponsored by the Society of American Business Editors and Writers. Email: mainecenter@gmail.com. Web: pinetreewatchdog.org.

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  • Anonymous

    Two quotes stand out for me..”Rep. Peggy Rotundo, D-Lewiston, said that while it was “critically important to be fiscally responsible” and reduce the pension debt, the scope of the problem was “not as grave” as the governor and state Treasurer Bruce Poliquin made it out to be.”  
    This is the Democrat strategy writ large, ignore the problem on all levels and pass the buck to future generations at the federal, state and local level.And quote two; “Crane, a Democrat, has written extensively about what he calls “pernicious displacement” — the hidden costs of pension debt that forces out spending on state services.He called Maine debt reduction “meaningful” because that crowding out has been reduced by about a third.”
    This shows the hidden problem that the public employee unions won’t tell you. Their generous benefits rob from the poor and needy by crowding them out of the budget.

    Good for LePage and good for our future!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Chris Quint said, “State employees and teachers, he said, were “promised something when they retired — and the state has reneged on that promise.”

    That is an absolute lie.  State employees and teachers were promised a pension and they still get it and it is still far superior to what those of us in the private sector can hope for.  And not only do those of us in the private sector have no hope, we get to pay for the retired State workers and teachers that will all move to Florida after retirement and pay no State taxes at all.  Great system!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Chris Quint said, “State employees and teachers, he said, were “promised something when they retired — and the state has reneged on that promise.”

    That is an absolute lie.  State employees and teachers were promised a pension and they still get it and it is still far superior to what those of us in the private sector can hope for.  And not only do those of us in the private sector have no hope, we get to pay for the retired State workers and teachers that will all move to Florida after retirement and pay no State taxes at all.  Great system!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Chris Quint said, “State employees and teachers, he said, were “promised something when they retired — and the state has reneged on that promise.”

    That is an absolute lie.  State employees and teachers were promised a pension and they still get it and it is still far superior to what those of us in the private sector can hope for.  And not only do those of us in the private sector have no hope, we get to pay for the retired State workers and teachers that will all move to Florida after retirement and pay no State taxes at all.  Great system!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Chris Quint said, “State employees and teachers, he said, were “promised something when they retired — and the state has reneged on that promise.”

    That is an absolute lie.  State employees and teachers were promised a pension and they still get it and it is still far superior to what those of us in the private sector can hope for.  And not only do those of us in the private sector have no hope, we get to pay for the retired State workers and teachers that will all move to Florida after retirement and pay no State taxes at all.  Great system!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Chris Quint said, “State employees and teachers, he said, were “promised something when they retired — and the state has reneged on that promise.”

    That is an absolute lie.  State employees and teachers were promised a pension and they still get it and it is still far superior to what those of us in the private sector can hope for.  And not only do those of us in the private sector have no hope, we get to pay for the retired State workers and teachers that will all move to Florida after retirement and pay no State taxes at all.  Great system!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Chris Quint said, “State employees and teachers, he said, were “promised something when they retired — and the state has reneged on that promise.”

    That is an absolute lie.  State employees and teachers were promised a pension and they still get it and it is still far superior to what those of us in the private sector can hope for.  And not only do those of us in the private sector have no hope, we get to pay for the retired State workers and teachers that will all move to Florida after retirement and pay no State taxes at all.  Great system!!

  • Anonymous

    You know the people that make me laugh, the morons with the 61% bumper-stickers. Where were they when 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006?
    Liberals with selective memories=FAIL.

  • Anonymous

    Less money for the union hacks is more money for roads, schools and healthcare.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget the 53% that voted against Baldacci in 2002. That guy was never a majority governor but the lefties didn’t complain as long as he toed the party line.

  • Anonymous

    exactly, entitled!!  We’re lucky to get ‘anything’ for a raise and our cola has been cut for the past 5 years. also, the senior citizens have not had a cola of for the last year.  we in the private sector will be lucky if we see ‘any’ retirement at all.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you! and please continue the common sense changes in Augusta that are long over due and until 2010 could only have been dreamt  about, it’s been a long time getting to the point that we were  in 2010 but thankfully those in power now have chosen to reverse all of the damages that they can while in power. As time goes on those that have an once of common sense will learn to like this administration, they may not agree with them but they know these changes are needed and will learn to live with it. Now stop the legalized extortion by the public sector unions! it’s a joke that is no longer making most of us laugh anymore.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you! and please continue the common sense changes in Augusta that are long over due and until 2010 could only have been dreamt  about, it’s been a long time getting to the point that we were  in 2010 but thankfully those in power now have chosen to reverse all of the damages that they can while in power. As time goes on those that have an once of common sense will learn to like this administration, they may not agree with them but they know these changes are needed and will learn to live with it. Now stop the legalized extortion by the public sector unions! it’s a joke that is no longer making most of us laugh anymore.

  • Chris Beyer

    perhaps its time to get a state job….

  • Chris Beyer

    perhaps its time to get a state job….

  • Anonymous

    Be happy with what you get, for there are many who have little to nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Be happy with what you get, for there are many who have little to nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Be happy with what you get, for there are many who have little to nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Be happy with what you get, for there are many who have little to nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Be happy with what you get, for there are many who have little to nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t legislators get free health insurance for life after serving five years? Maybe some of the so called fiscal conservatives who want to trim state spending should show some character and and refuse it.

  • Anonymous

    Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t legislators get free health insurance for life after serving five years? Maybe some of the so called fiscal conservatives who want to trim state spending should show some character and and refuse it.

  • Anonymous

    Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t legislators get free health insurance for life after serving five years? Maybe some of the so called fiscal conservatives who want to trim state spending should show some character and and refuse it.

  • Anonymous

    Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t legislators get free health insurance for life after serving five years? Maybe some of the so called fiscal conservatives who want to trim state spending should show some character and and refuse it.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • StillRelaxin

    Lets hope that this increased taxation on this select segment of our population comes back to haunt all GOP/Tea Party politicians in our state in the way of providing “them” an early retirement in 2012 and 2014.

    I doubt any amount of restrictive voting rights or complicated voting procedures they may come up with will save these folks but it sure hasn’t/won’t stop them from trying to game the voting system as much as they can.

    It’s too bad though that we will likely loose thousands of good people from choosing educations and careers in public service. Would anyone think teaching or public service is a good career to go into now? Nope. Would any parent pay for college educations leading to such careers? Nope. Will this negatively effect generations of students and the services we all rely on? Yep.

    All actions have consequences and although Mayor LePage and crew would only like us to look at the positives, these consequences are simply too obvious and painful to ignore. Unless of course you don’t care about education of your young (And all the negative consequences that go along with ignorance), old folks, or keeping promises made to people who have worked for you for 30-40 years. If those things don’t worry you then you just may be a die hard conservative. If they do worry you a bit, well then welcome to the human race.

    2012 elections are coming right up.

  • http://twitter.com/rklindell R. Kenneth Lindell

    A solvent state pension system is better than an insolvent social security system - any way you slice it.

  • http://twitter.com/rklindell R. Kenneth Lindell

    A solvent state pension system is better than an insolvent social security system - any way you slice it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    and what does this have to do with the article?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    and what does this have to do with the article?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    and what does this have to do with the article?

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the pension proposal LePage originally proposed and tried to bully the legislature into passing was much harsher than plan that did pass.

    Let’s also not forget that Mainer’s earning over $117,000 are getting an oversize portion of the tax breaks and that those who will benefit from the increase in the estate tax exemption are getting even more.  Where, exactly, is their portion of the shared sacrifice?

    It remains to be seen if Maine can continue to attract the best young teachers.  Let’s hope so.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the pension proposal LePage originally proposed and tried to bully the legislature into passing was much harsher than plan that did pass.

    Let’s also not forget that Mainer’s earning over $117,000 are getting an oversize portion of the tax breaks and that those who will benefit from the increase in the estate tax exemption are getting even more.  Where, exactly, is their portion of the shared sacrifice?

    It remains to be seen if Maine can continue to attract the best young teachers.  Let’s hope so.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the pension proposal LePage originally proposed and tried to bully the legislature into passing was much harsher than plan that did pass.

    Let’s also not forget that Mainer’s earning over $117,000 are getting an oversize portion of the tax breaks and that those who will benefit from the increase in the estate tax exemption are getting even more.  Where, exactly, is their portion of the shared sacrifice?

    It remains to be seen if Maine can continue to attract the best young teachers.  Let’s hope so.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the pension proposal LePage originally proposed and tried to bully the legislature into passing was much harsher than plan that did pass.

    Let’s also not forget that Mainer’s earning over $117,000 are getting an oversize portion of the tax breaks and that those who will benefit from the increase in the estate tax exemption are getting even more.  Where, exactly, is their portion of the shared sacrifice?

    It remains to be seen if Maine can continue to attract the best young teachers.  Let’s hope so.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the pension proposal LePage originally proposed and tried to bully the legislature into passing was much harsher than plan that did pass.

    Let’s also not forget that Mainer’s earning over $117,000 are getting an oversize portion of the tax breaks and that those who will benefit from the increase in the estate tax exemption are getting even more.  Where, exactly, is their portion of the shared sacrifice?

    It remains to be seen if Maine can continue to attract the best young teachers.  Let’s hope so.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the pension proposal LePage originally proposed and tried to bully the legislature into passing was much harsher than plan that did pass.

    Let’s also not forget that Mainer’s earning over $117,000 are getting an oversize portion of the tax breaks and that those who will benefit from the increase in the estate tax exemption are getting even more.  Where, exactly, is their portion of the shared sacrifice?

    It remains to be seen if Maine can continue to attract the best young teachers.  Let’s hope so.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s not forget that the pension proposal LePage originally proposed and tried to bully the legislature into passing was much harsher than plan that did pass.

    Let’s also not forget that Mainer’s earning over $117,000 are getting an oversize portion of the tax breaks and that those who will benefit from the increase in the estate tax exemption are getting even more.  Where, exactly, is their portion of the shared sacrifice?

    It remains to be seen if Maine can continue to attract the best young teachers.  Let’s hope so.

  • ptkitty

    Take that 61% sticker and turn it upside-down.  19%…That’s the percentage of votes that Libby Mitchell got.  A lousy 19%.   

  • AionNV

    THAT’LL be the day.

  • AionNV

    They will “create jobs”, silly.  

  • Anonymous

    Very interesting fairy tale, and nothing more. Not sure why this dreamy little story merits space in the BDN.
    Figures lie and liars figure, just like LePage and his lies, the rot starts now at the top of the tree and works it’s way down. The GOP is owned lock stock and barrel by out of state concerns, and big business.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks god, NoBama in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks god, NoBama in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks god, NoBama in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks god, NoBama in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks god, NoBama in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks god, NoBama in 2012.

  • Anonymous

    perhaps it’s time to get rid of state jobs…

  • Anonymous

    perhaps it’s time to get rid of state jobs…

  • Anonymous

    Where, exactly, is the shared sacrifice of the recipient class who pays zero income tax annually but receives government assistance?  Shared sacrifice does not mean you dump all the responsibility on one sector of the population… you may need to look up the definition of the word “share”.   

  • Anonymous

    So says the guy who thinks the MEA and the MSEA are independently run in-state union organizations.

  • Anonymous

    The people taking the biggest hit,” he said, are retirees with high income.   I really like the comparision to retirees on social security to those recieving state pensions.  $40,000.00 vs. $17,000.00. We should hear more on this subject if they think the drop in COLA is such a big deal, lets compare apples to apples.

  • Anonymous

    The people taking the biggest hit,” he said, are retirees with high income.   I really like the comparision to retirees on social security to those recieving state pensions.  $40,000.00 vs. $17,000.00. We should hear more on this subject if they think the drop in COLA is such a big deal, lets compare apples to apples.

  • Anonymous

    The people taking the biggest hit,” he said, are retirees with high income.   I really like the comparision to retirees on social security to those recieving state pensions.  $40,000.00 vs. $17,000.00. We should hear more on this subject if they think the drop in COLA is such a big deal, lets compare apples to apples.

  • Anonymous

    The people taking the biggest hit,” he said, are retirees with high income.   I really like the comparision to retirees on social security to those recieving state pensions.  $40,000.00 vs. $17,000.00. We should hear more on this subject if they think the drop in COLA is such a big deal, lets compare apples to apples.

  • Anonymous

    That’s baloney “entitled.”  And that name seems to fit you well.  Check out your Social Security benefits . . .

  • Anonymous

    That also works the other way.   I moved to Maine from Florida.  I paid no tax to Maine until I moved here.  I am retired, I have no children in the schools, I get very little service from the government of Maine, yet I pay taxes on income not earned in Maine.  So before you start bashing, you need to look at the other side.  By the way, the pitiful retirement that Maine pays to its retirees is even more degrading because they aren’t entitled to Social Security.   That was done to avoid contributing the employers part of Social Security.  I am indeed very fortunate to have participated in social security.

  • Anonymous

    wow 700 million almost as much as obama has in his re election fund. if he was doing his job he wouldn’t need a billion to run ads. instead he could spread the wealth

  • Anonymous

    wow 700 million almost as much as obama has in his re election fund. if he was doing his job he wouldn’t need a billion to run ads. instead he could spread the wealth

  • Anonymous

    wow 700 million almost as much as obama has in his re election fund. if he was doing his job he wouldn’t need a billion to run ads. instead he could spread the wealth

  • Anonymous

    wow 700 million almost as much as obama has in his re election fund. if he was doing his job he wouldn’t need a billion to run ads. instead he could spread the wealth

  • Anonymous

    wow 700 million almost as much as obama has in his re election fund. if he was doing his job he wouldn’t need a billion to run ads. instead he could spread the wealth

  • Anonymous

    When you do get rid of the state jobs and can no longer  1) get to work because the roads aren’t plowed, have your children attend a local school, but travel 20 miles on a bus, call 911 and get an “all circuits busy” message, don’t blame anyone but yourself.

  • Anonymous

    When you do get rid of the state jobs and can no longer  1) get to work because the roads aren’t plowed, have your children attend a local school, but travel 20 miles on a bus, call 911 and get an “all circuits busy” message, don’t blame anyone but yourself.

  • Anonymous

    When you do get rid of the state jobs and can no longer  1) get to work because the roads aren’t plowed, have your children attend a local school, but travel 20 miles on a bus, call 911 and get an “all circuits busy” message, don’t blame anyone but yourself.

  • Anonymous

    When you do get rid of the state jobs and can no longer  1) get to work because the roads aren’t plowed, have your children attend a local school, but travel 20 miles on a bus, call 911 and get an “all circuits busy” message, don’t blame anyone but yourself.

  • Anonymous

    The problem has been that both of those kitties have been robbed of cash to cover government shortfalls in the past.  If all the money that had been collected for these funds was still in their accounts, this market meltdown would have been a minor glitch, nothing more.

  • gregoryhodge2001

    Let’s not forget the borrowing of funds in the past were by people in Augusta by the unions(Dem).

    Now we start working on performance standards for teachers.  Class ratio standards are in some places as low as 10 to 1, and yet 40% of our high school graduates need remedial work upon arriving at university.

  • gregoryhodge2001

    Let’s not forget the borrowing of funds in the past were by people in Augusta by the unions(Dem).

    Now we start working on performance standards for teachers.  Class ratio standards are in some places as low as 10 to 1, and yet 40% of our high school graduates need remedial work upon arriving at university.

  • gregoryhodge2001

    Let’s not forget the borrowing of funds in the past were by people in Augusta by the unions(Dem).

    Now we start working on performance standards for teachers.  Class ratio standards are in some places as low as 10 to 1, and yet 40% of our high school graduates need remedial work upon arriving at university.

  • gregoryhodge2001

    Let’s not forget the borrowing of funds in the past were by people in Augusta by the unions(Dem).

    Now we start working on performance standards for teachers.  Class ratio standards are in some places as low as 10 to 1, and yet 40% of our high school graduates need remedial work upon arriving at university.

  • gregoryhodge2001

    Let’s not forget the borrowing of funds in the past were by people in Augusta by the unions(Dem).

    Now we start working on performance standards for teachers.  Class ratio standards are in some places as low as 10 to 1, and yet 40% of our high school graduates need remedial work upon arriving at university.

  • gregoryhodge2001

    Let’s not forget the borrowing of funds in the past were by people in Augusta by the unions(Dem).

    Now we start working on performance standards for teachers.  Class ratio standards are in some places as low as 10 to 1, and yet 40% of our high school graduates need remedial work upon arriving at university.

  • Anonymous

    When people earn a living wage they pay taxes that fund local, state, and federal budgets. When people earn a living wage they buy houses, new cars, and take vacations. When they enacted “free” trade they shipped all of our jobs that payed a living wage over seas to benefit a handful of so called “Americans” and replaced them with low wage service sector jobs. People who work for minimum wage don’t buy houses, they don’t buy new cars, and they don’t take vacations. They also don’t pay squat in taxes. The really ironic thing is that there are still a huge number of politicians who are completely at a loss as to why our economy is in the toilet and we can’t fulfill our obligations to our public employees and their retirements. If we don’t start sending smarter people to Augusta and Washington, we might as well sign over the deed to the farm to the Chinese right now. They already own ten percent of our debt as it is. Short sighted and greedy policies have gotten us to this point in our economy and until we “smarten up” our politicians nothing is going to change.

  • Anonymous

    When people earn a living wage they pay taxes that fund local, state, and federal budgets. When people earn a living wage they buy houses, new cars, and take vacations. When they enacted “free” trade they shipped all of our jobs that payed a living wage over seas to benefit a handful of so called “Americans” and replaced them with low wage service sector jobs. People who work for minimum wage don’t buy houses, they don’t buy new cars, and they don’t take vacations. They also don’t pay squat in taxes. The really ironic thing is that there are still a huge number of politicians who are completely at a loss as to why our economy is in the toilet and we can’t fulfill our obligations to our public employees and their retirements. If we don’t start sending smarter people to Augusta and Washington, we might as well sign over the deed to the farm to the Chinese right now. They already own ten percent of our debt as it is. Short sighted and greedy policies have gotten us to this point in our economy and until we “smarten up” our politicians nothing is going to change.

  • gregoryhodge2001

    You forgot to mention the Kock brothers.  Be a good little kool-aid drinker and stay with the propaganda notes you’ve been spoon-fed.

  • Anonymous

    Creating jobs is such a standard answer for everything.  It remains to be seen whether any jobs will be created in Maine as a result of this.  Legislators are just fumbling in the dark to find the magic spark that will encourage job growth, but when will it happen?

  • Anonymous

    Creating jobs is such a standard answer for everything.  It remains to be seen whether any jobs will be created in Maine as a result of this.  Legislators are just fumbling in the dark to find the magic spark that will encourage job growth, but when will it happen?

  • Anonymous

    Creating jobs is such a standard answer for everything.  It remains to be seen whether any jobs will be created in Maine as a result of this.  Legislators are just fumbling in the dark to find the magic spark that will encourage job growth, but when will it happen?

  • Anonymous

    Creating jobs is such a standard answer for everything.  It remains to be seen whether any jobs will be created in Maine as a result of this.  Legislators are just fumbling in the dark to find the magic spark that will encourage job growth, but when will it happen?

  • Anonymous

    Creating jobs is such a standard answer for everything.  It remains to be seen whether any jobs will be created in Maine as a result of this.  Legislators are just fumbling in the dark to find the magic spark that will encourage job growth, but when will it happen?

  • Anonymous

    Creating jobs is such a standard answer for everything.  It remains to be seen whether any jobs will be created in Maine as a result of this.  Legislators are just fumbling in the dark to find the magic spark that will encourage job growth, but when will it happen?

  • Anonymous

    As a retired teacher, I would not tell any young person in their right mind to consider a job in the public sector.  These budget issues are only going to get worse.  I just read a report that says children make up only 25% of the American population.  In 1950 it was over 40%.  With fewer numbers of young people entering the work force and paying taxes, you can expect the public service sector,(funded with taxes) to bear the brunt of  upcoming budget woes.  We aren’t going to eliminate the budget deficit until all us baby boomers die off.   When that happens, the social network and public jobs will once again be a good chosen profession.  Expect that to happen in about 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    As a retired teacher, I would not tell any young person in their right mind to consider a job in the public sector.  These budget issues are only going to get worse.  I just read a report that says children make up only 25% of the American population.  In 1950 it was over 40%.  With fewer numbers of young people entering the work force and paying taxes, you can expect the public service sector,(funded with taxes) to bear the brunt of  upcoming budget woes.  We aren’t going to eliminate the budget deficit until all us baby boomers die off.   When that happens, the social network and public jobs will once again be a good chosen profession.  Expect that to happen in about 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    As a retired teacher, I would not tell any young person in their right mind to consider a job in the public sector.  These budget issues are only going to get worse.  I just read a report that says children make up only 25% of the American population.  In 1950 it was over 40%.  With fewer numbers of young people entering the work force and paying taxes, you can expect the public service sector,(funded with taxes) to bear the brunt of  upcoming budget woes.  We aren’t going to eliminate the budget deficit until all us baby boomers die off.   When that happens, the social network and public jobs will once again be a good chosen profession.  Expect that to happen in about 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    As a retired teacher, I would not tell any young person in their right mind to consider a job in the public sector.  These budget issues are only going to get worse.  I just read a report that says children make up only 25% of the American population.  In 1950 it was over 40%.  With fewer numbers of young people entering the work force and paying taxes, you can expect the public service sector,(funded with taxes) to bear the brunt of  upcoming budget woes.  We aren’t going to eliminate the budget deficit until all us baby boomers die off.   When that happens, the social network and public jobs will once again be a good chosen profession.  Expect that to happen in about 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    As a retired teacher, I would not tell any young person in their right mind to consider a job in the public sector.  These budget issues are only going to get worse.  I just read a report that says children make up only 25% of the American population.  In 1950 it was over 40%.  With fewer numbers of young people entering the work force and paying taxes, you can expect the public service sector,(funded with taxes) to bear the brunt of  upcoming budget woes.  We aren’t going to eliminate the budget deficit until all us baby boomers die off.   When that happens, the social network and public jobs will once again be a good chosen profession.  Expect that to happen in about 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    As a retired teacher, I would not tell any young person in their right mind to consider a job in the public sector.  These budget issues are only going to get worse.  I just read a report that says children make up only 25% of the American population.  In 1950 it was over 40%.  With fewer numbers of young people entering the work force and paying taxes, you can expect the public service sector,(funded with taxes) to bear the brunt of  upcoming budget woes.  We aren’t going to eliminate the budget deficit until all us baby boomers die off.   When that happens, the social network and public jobs will once again be a good chosen profession.  Expect that to happen in about 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    Yet another move by Penguin that comes straight from the National Tea Party agenda.  What a shocker.  Makes you wonder – is he doing what’s best for Mainer’s or what’s best for the National Party?

  • Anonymous

    Obama is essentially a Republican. What are you be griping about?

  • Anonymous

    Obama is essentially a Republican. What are you be griping about?

  • StillRelaxin

    Your playing with his words.  Using your logic, public sector employees would be “Getting their pensions” even if we offered them 1 cent a year.  Silly.  Some may dance and rejoice now about sticking it to these people but there will be consequences for such actions.  See my comment below for those details.

  • SwiftyMorgain

      It isn’t hard to see that deals made in the past for future benefits are being replaced with deals made to special interest groups.

      When you renige on the State Workers promise and also double the exemption amount for  Inheritance Tax , you are giving a Millionaires son the Pension!

    Crooked Ba$turds!

  • SwiftyMorgain

      It isn’t hard to see that deals made in the past for future benefits are being replaced with deals made to special interest groups.

      When you renige on the State Workers promise and also double the exemption amount for  Inheritance Tax , you are giving a Millionaires son the Pension!

    Crooked Ba$turds!

  • SwiftyMorgain

      It isn’t hard to see that deals made in the past for future benefits are being replaced with deals made to special interest groups.

      When you renige on the State Workers promise and also double the exemption amount for  Inheritance Tax , you are giving a Millionaires son the Pension!

    Crooked Ba$turds!

  • Anonymous

    No, you can’t mention the recipient class who pay zero taxes.  You have to keep hating the wealthy and scream how they are greedy, evil and want people to die of starvation regardless of how much money that person pays in taxes or how many people they or their company employs. 

  • Anonymous

    That’s ok, the general sentiment on the BDN comment section is teachers deserve to get screwed.  I remember over the past 20 years how if you told somebody you were in education, they would laugh because you were going to make so little money compared to the private sector.  Now, teachers are seen as the devil with those high paying jobs and “health care that the rest of us don’t have”………it is just interesting to see how the tone changes when the country is in a recession.  I work in education and never expected to become a millionaire, but also, with 2 graduate degrees, working with our state’s children, I never thought I would hear the animosity toward us who dared get an education and, God forbid, have healthcare.  Many on here would like me better if I was a high school drop out making $9/hour with no healthcare (then they could blame the teachers).

  • Anonymous

    That’s ok, the general sentiment on the BDN comment section is teachers deserve to get screwed.  I remember over the past 20 years how if you told somebody you were in education, they would laugh because you were going to make so little money compared to the private sector.  Now, teachers are seen as the devil with those high paying jobs and “health care that the rest of us don’t have”………it is just interesting to see how the tone changes when the country is in a recession.  I work in education and never expected to become a millionaire, but also, with 2 graduate degrees, working with our state’s children, I never thought I would hear the animosity toward us who dared get an education and, God forbid, have healthcare.  Many on here would like me better if I was a high school drop out making $9/hour with no healthcare (then they could blame the teachers).

  • Anonymous

    Wow…I can’t believe I’m reading this very fair, thoughtful, reasonable and well-written piece that honestly reports the attempts of honest men to address a tough problem.
     
    Pension reform was a necessary and inherently obvious measure that was required for the sake of fiscal solvency.
     
    I’m so glad I wasn’t subjected to little substance and paragraph after paragraph of useless, opinion and “feelings” quotes; i.e. “These Republicans are punishing the middle-class (because clearly the only people who matter in the middle-class are union or public employees),” or “This is an attack on working people (because only union or public employees work).”
     
    The entire educational system really needs a shake-up. The government trying to control and ensure a fair destiny for everyone ends up picking arbitrary winners and losers.

    I want to see some teachers who excel making great salaries working in dynamic schools where the best and brightest get rewarded and promoted based upon merit and skill in their profession-not seniority. The system we have now clearly isn’t working.

  • listenuppeople

    Why does the Government deserve any benifits from the inheritance tax??? I suspect the 75% inheritance tax John Baldacci put in place was OK with you… It chased the ultra rich right out of the State of Maine for Good… never to return… Imagine Stephen King making around 90 million a year when John did that, he paid 8% in Maine income tax= over 7 million dollars.. He moved within 24 hours of that law to tax free Florida…  a couple hundred ultra rich moving out cost you your cola’s  

  • Anonymous

    Because the 61% group is hardcore progressive Dems whose two leaders supported Mitchell. They’re even taking heat on their own facebook page for hyper-partisan rhetoric. Plus, Libby Mitchell is the only one of the candidates who would have agreed with Rotundo and said, “It isn’t as bad as everyone else says” while she was increasing spending or adding new programs elsewhere to bankrupt the state.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get one thing straight, the state did not borrow or rob the fund in the past. They chose not to fund it. That goes back to pre-McKernan days, and includes Curtis, McKernan, King & Baldacci. There were never existing funds taken out of the pension system, there were checks that our former illustrious Governor’s chose not to put in. King, when we had a great budget surplus at one point in his admin, should have used the surplus to catch up on this debt rather than grow govt. with a bunch of programs we didn’t want or need.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get one thing straight, the state did not borrow or rob the fund in the past. They chose not to fund it. That goes back to pre-McKernan days, and includes Curtis, McKernan, King & Baldacci. There were never existing funds taken out of the pension system, there were checks that our former illustrious Governor’s chose not to put in. King, when we had a great budget surplus at one point in his admin, should have used the surplus to catch up on this debt rather than grow govt. with a bunch of programs we didn’t want or need.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get one thing straight, the state did not borrow or rob the fund in the past. They chose not to fund it. That goes back to pre-McKernan days, and includes Curtis, McKernan, King & Baldacci. There were never existing funds taken out of the pension system, there were checks that our former illustrious Governor’s chose not to put in. King, when we had a great budget surplus at one point in his admin, should have used the surplus to catch up on this debt rather than grow govt. with a bunch of programs we didn’t want or need.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get one thing straight, the state did not borrow or rob the fund in the past. They chose not to fund it. That goes back to pre-McKernan days, and includes Curtis, McKernan, King & Baldacci. There were never existing funds taken out of the pension system, there were checks that our former illustrious Governor’s chose not to put in. King, when we had a great budget surplus at one point in his admin, should have used the surplus to catch up on this debt rather than grow govt. with a bunch of programs we didn’t want or need.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get one thing straight, the state did not borrow or rob the fund in the past. They chose not to fund it. That goes back to pre-McKernan days, and includes Curtis, McKernan, King & Baldacci. There were never existing funds taken out of the pension system, there were checks that our former illustrious Governor’s chose not to put in. King, when we had a great budget surplus at one point in his admin, should have used the surplus to catch up on this debt rather than grow govt. with a bunch of programs we didn’t want or need.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get one thing straight, the state did not borrow or rob the fund in the past. They chose not to fund it. That goes back to pre-McKernan days, and includes Curtis, McKernan, King & Baldacci. There were never existing funds taken out of the pension system, there were checks that our former illustrious Governor’s chose not to put in. King, when we had a great budget surplus at one point in his admin, should have used the surplus to catch up on this debt rather than grow govt. with a bunch of programs we didn’t want or need.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYD4MZNHJVHS6VN5XSM63QC3CM Bonny

    Maine is so fortunate to finally have a great leader that will actually confront and solve problems to benefit all Mainers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYD4MZNHJVHS6VN5XSM63QC3CM Bonny

    Maine is so fortunate to finally have a great leader that will actually confront and solve problems to benefit all Mainers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Over the last 20 years the average increase in the consumer price index has been about 2.5%.  I am a recent retiree and I just did a calculation of what Governor LePage’s change will mean for me in 10 years.  With the change in the retirement system my retirement will be about $3650 less in 10 years.  My wife who will also be retired from teaching will be in similar circumstances, so that means our combined retirement will be $7300 less in the year 2021 than it would have been under the former arrangement.  In 20 years, my retirement benefit will be $11,300 less and, of course, so will my wife’s.  So we will be receiving $22,600 less in 2031 than we would have received under the former plan.  That is the cost referred to in the headline.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Over the last 20 years the average increase in the consumer price index has been about 2.5%.  I am a recent retiree and I just did a calculation of what Governor LePage’s change will mean for me in 10 years.  With the change in the retirement system my retirement will be about $3650 less in 10 years.  My wife who will also be retired from teaching will be in similar circumstances, so that means our combined retirement will be $7300 less in the year 2021 than it would have been under the former arrangement.  In 20 years, my retirement benefit will be $11,300 less and, of course, so will my wife’s.  So we will be receiving $22,600 less in 2031 than we would have received under the former plan.  That is the cost referred to in the headline.

  • melibusa

    An excellent start would to require our politicians to live by the same rules they impose on the rest of us, with no special benefits for  these politicians.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    So would it be better not to try to “ensure a fair destiny”?  

  • Anonymous

    Political donations should be taxed.  

  • Anonymous

    The problem isn’t the employees, or the unions.  It was the state was making promises it will not keep.   If you are a social security recipient, you are receiving a payment a state employee is not eligible to receive.  That is the issue.  State employees do not get a pension and Social Security.  The pension is in lieu of SSI payments.  Federal employees hired prior to 1986 are in the same boat.   I will say this, whatever blueprint the Republican governors association is using to reconcile pension issues will be the basis for Social Security reform in the near future. No COLA’s, means testing, privatization. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Where did you get the 75% figure?  According to a chart from something referred to as “death tax” (that probably doesn’t put the best face on things), the top bracket is 12% for the amount of the estate over $8,000,000.  It was 8% from 2 to 5 million and 10% for 5 to 8 million.  That means a $10,000,000 estate would see an inheritance tax of $940,000.  That is 9.4%, hardly anything approaching 75%.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Where did you get the 75% figure?  According to a chart from something referred to as “death tax” (that probably doesn’t put the best face on things), the top bracket is 12% for the amount of the estate over $8,000,000.  It was 8% from 2 to 5 million and 10% for 5 to 8 million.  That means a $10,000,000 estate would see an inheritance tax of $940,000.  That is 9.4%, hardly anything approaching 75%.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Where did you get the 75% figure?  According to a chart from something referred to as “death tax” (that probably doesn’t put the best face on things), the top bracket is 12% for the amount of the estate over $8,000,000.  It was 8% from 2 to 5 million and 10% for 5 to 8 million.  That means a $10,000,000 estate would see an inheritance tax of $940,000.  That is 9.4%, hardly anything approaching 75%.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Correct that.  On a $10,000,000 estate the tax is $780,000, not $940,000.  So make that 7.8%, even lower than the 9.4%.  That’s with the $2,000,000 exemption.  With the previous $1,000,000 exemption, the tax would have been $860,000.  So the $10,000,000 estate saves $80,000 in taxes. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Correct that.  On a $10,000,000 estate the tax is $780,000, not $940,000.  So make that 7.8%, even lower than the 9.4%.  That’s with the $2,000,000 exemption.  With the previous $1,000,000 exemption, the tax would have been $860,000.  So the $10,000,000 estate saves $80,000 in taxes. 

  • Anonymous

    As a non-union worker you’ve seen your benefits reduced and wages remain stagnant over the last 15 years or so. But instead of taking out your frustration on those who have caused this to happen, big business, corporate America, Wall Street, you take it out on those who still have what you have lost.

    The GOP lead you to believe that a “trickle down” economy would make your life better, but the money never trickled down, did it? The wealthy got richer, the companies got bigger, and they sent the jobs we did out of America. Now they want to rob you of your Social Security and Medicare.

    Don’t blame the unions and the Democrats for what you have lost. They didn’t take anything away from you. It was your beloved party that crushed the working class and is still working hard to make your life more difficult. 

  • Anonymous

    As a non-union worker you’ve seen your benefits reduced and wages remain stagnant over the last 15 years or so. But instead of taking out your frustration on those who have caused this to happen, big business, corporate America, Wall Street, you take it out on those who still have what you have lost.

    The GOP lead you to believe that a “trickle down” economy would make your life better, but the money never trickled down, did it? The wealthy got richer, the companies got bigger, and they sent the jobs we did out of America. Now they want to rob you of your Social Security and Medicare.

    Don’t blame the unions and the Democrats for what you have lost. They didn’t take anything away from you. It was your beloved party that crushed the working class and is still working hard to make your life more difficult. 

  • Anonymous

    As a non-union worker you’ve seen your benefits reduced and wages remain stagnant over the last 15 years or so. But instead of taking out your frustration on those who have caused this to happen, big business, corporate America, Wall Street, you take it out on those who still have what you have lost.

    The GOP lead you to believe that a “trickle down” economy would make your life better, but the money never trickled down, did it? The wealthy got richer, the companies got bigger, and they sent the jobs we did out of America. Now they want to rob you of your Social Security and Medicare.

    Don’t blame the unions and the Democrats for what you have lost. They didn’t take anything away from you. It was your beloved party that crushed the working class and is still working hard to make your life more difficult. 

  • Anonymous

    As a non-union worker you’ve seen your benefits reduced and wages remain stagnant over the last 15 years or so. But instead of taking out your frustration on those who have caused this to happen, big business, corporate America, Wall Street, you take it out on those who still have what you have lost.

    The GOP lead you to believe that a “trickle down” economy would make your life better, but the money never trickled down, did it? The wealthy got richer, the companies got bigger, and they sent the jobs we did out of America. Now they want to rob you of your Social Security and Medicare.

    Don’t blame the unions and the Democrats for what you have lost. They didn’t take anything away from you. It was your beloved party that crushed the working class and is still working hard to make your life more difficult. 

  • Anonymous

    As a non-union worker you’ve seen your benefits reduced and wages remain stagnant over the last 15 years or so. But instead of taking out your frustration on those who have caused this to happen, big business, corporate America, Wall Street, you take it out on those who still have what you have lost.

    The GOP lead you to believe that a “trickle down” economy would make your life better, but the money never trickled down, did it? The wealthy got richer, the companies got bigger, and they sent the jobs we did out of America. Now they want to rob you of your Social Security and Medicare.

    Don’t blame the unions and the Democrats for what you have lost. They didn’t take anything away from you. It was your beloved party that crushed the working class and is still working hard to make your life more difficult. 

  • Anonymous

    As a non-union worker you’ve seen your benefits reduced and wages remain stagnant over the last 15 years or so. But instead of taking out your frustration on those who have caused this to happen, big business, corporate America, Wall Street, you take it out on those who still have what you have lost.

    The GOP lead you to believe that a “trickle down” economy would make your life better, but the money never trickled down, did it? The wealthy got richer, the companies got bigger, and they sent the jobs we did out of America. Now they want to rob you of your Social Security and Medicare.

    Don’t blame the unions and the Democrats for what you have lost. They didn’t take anything away from you. It was your beloved party that crushed the working class and is still working hard to make your life more difficult. 

  • Anonymous

    How are all the LePage haters doing here today?????

  • http://www.facebook.com/laplants Seth Laplant

    It seems like people on here don’t understand that state employees pay into their retirement.  Many state employees also pay into social security while working at other jobs that they will not receive.  This is just a way to pass the state taxes from corporations and others  to the state employees. So instead of raising taxes by $20 a year for all they decrease earned payments to a few by hundreds to thousands. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/laplants Seth Laplant

    It seems like people on here don’t understand that state employees pay into their retirement.  Many state employees also pay into social security while working at other jobs that they will not receive.  This is just a way to pass the state taxes from corporations and others  to the state employees. So instead of raising taxes by $20 a year for all they decrease earned payments to a few by hundreds to thousands. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/laplants Seth Laplant

    It seems like people on here don’t understand that state employees pay into their retirement.  Many state employees also pay into social security while working at other jobs that they will not receive.  This is just a way to pass the state taxes from corporations and others  to the state employees. So instead of raising taxes by $20 a year for all they decrease earned payments to a few by hundreds to thousands. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/laplants Seth Laplant

    It seems like people on here don’t understand that state employees pay into their retirement.  Many state employees also pay into social security while working at other jobs that they will not receive.  This is just a way to pass the state taxes from corporations and others  to the state employees. So instead of raising taxes by $20 a year for all they decrease earned payments to a few by hundreds to thousands. 

  • dadoje

    State employees also pay more for their pensions then private employees pay for social security. the state  pays less then they would if the state employees were on social security.

  • dadoje

    State employees also pay more for their pensions then private employees pay for social security. the state  pays less then they would if the state employees were on social security.

  • dadoje

    State employees also pay more for their pensions then private employees pay for social security. the state  pays less then they would if the state employees were on social security.

  • dadoje

    State employees also pay more for their pensions then private employees pay for social security. the state  pays less then they would if the state employees were on social security.

  • Anonymous

    What is good for the party is good for Maine….
     

  • Anonymous

    If you are still around in 2031 collecting my money then you should have been working longer…unbelievable

  • Anonymous

    If you are still around in 2031 collecting my money then you should have been working longer…unbelievable

  • Anonymous

    If you are still around in 2031 collecting my money then you should have been working longer…unbelievable

  • Anonymous

    State employees do pay into social security – it is just the teachers that don’t.

    The “pitiful” retirement for state employees is still more than most private sector workers will ever see (and frankly most are doing just fine)  – most private sector workers are not anticipating any retirement from their employers.  Private sector workers also don’t generally get COLA raises on their retirement payments and state workers shouldn’t either.

    You can always move back to Florida and stop complaining about Maine taxes.

  • Anonymous

    State employees do pay into social security – it is just the teachers that don’t.

    The “pitiful” retirement for state employees is still more than most private sector workers will ever see (and frankly most are doing just fine)  – most private sector workers are not anticipating any retirement from their employers.  Private sector workers also don’t generally get COLA raises on their retirement payments and state workers shouldn’t either.

    You can always move back to Florida and stop complaining about Maine taxes.

  • Anonymous

    State employees do pay into social security – it is just the teachers that don’t.

    The “pitiful” retirement for state employees is still more than most private sector workers will ever see (and frankly most are doing just fine)  – most private sector workers are not anticipating any retirement from their employers.  Private sector workers also don’t generally get COLA raises on their retirement payments and state workers shouldn’t either.

    You can always move back to Florida and stop complaining about Maine taxes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JTLUOVP3KOTAATCD6GC2A5U3TM Joseph

    More money for schools?  Do you think the walls and floors teach our kids?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JTLUOVP3KOTAATCD6GC2A5U3TM Joseph

    More money for schools?  Do you think the walls and floors teach our kids?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JTLUOVP3KOTAATCD6GC2A5U3TM Joseph

    More money for schools?  Do you think the walls and floors teach our kids?

  • Anonymous

    Wrong state employees Do Not pay into SS you are wrong!

  • Anonymous

     By “union hacks” I guess you mean the state employees who have been keeping the infrastructure of this State going on many fronts.  As for more money for schools, the teachers are being brutally cut out of pensions and they already are not allowed to get Social Security.  I guess treating teachers decently, under your strategy, isn’t part of creating better schools–which is ridiculous.

    We are fighting three idiotic wars while bleeding our education system dry.  It is a pathetic sight.  The people of America are attacking each others–Mainers against Mainers–instead of focusing on the real culprit, the Wall Street greed that destroyed the economy in 2008, plus all the other unethical shenanigans perpetrated by big corporations, like cutting as many jobs as possible and moving capital overseas. 

    Greed is the enemy, epitomized by 400 billionaires who own as much wealth as the bottom 50% of Americans.

    The happiest countries in the world, says Forbes Magazine, provide strong welfare benefits and redistribute wealth over the entire population. 

    In our country, wealth is hideously concentrated at the top, where the rich have been getting richer, and the rest of us seem to be sinking.

    Stop attacking education, and start getting wise.

  • Anonymous

     By “union hacks” I guess you mean the state employees who have been keeping the infrastructure of this State going on many fronts.  As for more money for schools, the teachers are being brutally cut out of pensions and they already are not allowed to get Social Security.  I guess treating teachers decently, under your strategy, isn’t part of creating better schools–which is ridiculous.

    We are fighting three idiotic wars while bleeding our education system dry.  It is a pathetic sight.  The people of America are attacking each others–Mainers against Mainers–instead of focusing on the real culprit, the Wall Street greed that destroyed the economy in 2008, plus all the other unethical shenanigans perpetrated by big corporations, like cutting as many jobs as possible and moving capital overseas. 

    Greed is the enemy, epitomized by 400 billionaires who own as much wealth as the bottom 50% of Americans.

    The happiest countries in the world, says Forbes Magazine, provide strong welfare benefits and redistribute wealth over the entire population. 

    In our country, wealth is hideously concentrated at the top, where the rich have been getting richer, and the rest of us seem to be sinking.

    Stop attacking education, and start getting wise.

  • Anonymous

     By “union hacks” I guess you mean the state employees who have been keeping the infrastructure of this State going on many fronts.  As for more money for schools, the teachers are being brutally cut out of pensions and they already are not allowed to get Social Security.  I guess treating teachers decently, under your strategy, isn’t part of creating better schools–which is ridiculous.

    We are fighting three idiotic wars while bleeding our education system dry.  It is a pathetic sight.  The people of America are attacking each others–Mainers against Mainers–instead of focusing on the real culprit, the Wall Street greed that destroyed the economy in 2008, plus all the other unethical shenanigans perpetrated by big corporations, like cutting as many jobs as possible and moving capital overseas. 

    Greed is the enemy, epitomized by 400 billionaires who own as much wealth as the bottom 50% of Americans.

    The happiest countries in the world, says Forbes Magazine, provide strong welfare benefits and redistribute wealth over the entire population. 

    In our country, wealth is hideously concentrated at the top, where the rich have been getting richer, and the rest of us seem to be sinking.

    Stop attacking education, and start getting wise.

  • Anonymous

     By “union hacks” I guess you mean the state employees who have been keeping the infrastructure of this State going on many fronts.  As for more money for schools, the teachers are being brutally cut out of pensions and they already are not allowed to get Social Security.  I guess treating teachers decently, under your strategy, isn’t part of creating better schools–which is ridiculous.

    We are fighting three idiotic wars while bleeding our education system dry.  It is a pathetic sight.  The people of America are attacking each others–Mainers against Mainers–instead of focusing on the real culprit, the Wall Street greed that destroyed the economy in 2008, plus all the other unethical shenanigans perpetrated by big corporations, like cutting as many jobs as possible and moving capital overseas. 

    Greed is the enemy, epitomized by 400 billionaires who own as much wealth as the bottom 50% of Americans.

    The happiest countries in the world, says Forbes Magazine, provide strong welfare benefits and redistribute wealth over the entire population. 

    In our country, wealth is hideously concentrated at the top, where the rich have been getting richer, and the rest of us seem to be sinking.

    Stop attacking education, and start getting wise.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    According to life expectancy tables for Americans, I will make it until 2032.  My career has consisted of educating your kids, your employees, the people you do business with, possibly seek medical attention from, and your customers.  (Come to think of it, do you want educated customers?)  And by the way, do you have a job for me?  I have a graduate degree.  I read and write quite well and I am very good with numbers.  I’m good at talking to people, and I bet I would be pretty good at “doing lunch” although teachers often “do lunch” with their students. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You chose to live here and Maine does not tax social security.  You get the same services that I get and I have paid Maine taxes all of my life.  How do you know that the retirement for State employees is pitiful?  What is pitiful to you?  And by the way, this is not about taking their retirement away, it is about facing up to reality.  MSRS is a giant ponzi scheme, just like social security.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You chose to live here and Maine does not tax social security.  You get the same services that I get and I have paid Maine taxes all of my life.  How do you know that the retirement for State employees is pitiful?  What is pitiful to you?  And by the way, this is not about taking their retirement away, it is about facing up to reality.  MSRS is a giant ponzi scheme, just like social security.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You chose to live here and Maine does not tax social security.  You get the same services that I get and I have paid Maine taxes all of my life.  How do you know that the retirement for State employees is pitiful?  What is pitiful to you?  And by the way, this is not about taking their retirement away, it is about facing up to reality.  MSRS is a giant ponzi scheme, just like social security.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You chose to live here and Maine does not tax social security.  You get the same services that I get and I have paid Maine taxes all of my life.  How do you know that the retirement for State employees is pitiful?  What is pitiful to you?  And by the way, this is not about taking their retirement away, it is about facing up to reality.  MSRS is a giant ponzi scheme, just like social security.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You chose to live here and Maine does not tax social security.  You get the same services that I get and I have paid Maine taxes all of my life.  How do you know that the retirement for State employees is pitiful?  What is pitiful to you?  And by the way, this is not about taking their retirement away, it is about facing up to reality.  MSRS is a giant ponzi scheme, just like social security.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    And while I am on the subject, I would rather work than play golf or hunt or fish or go snowmobiling.  I haven’t set foot in Hollywood Slots or Foxwoods and never intend to.   Do you do any of those things?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    And while I am on the subject, I would rather work than play golf or hunt or fish or go snowmobiling.  I haven’t set foot in Hollywood Slots or Foxwoods and never intend to.   Do you do any of those things?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You may see it as us blaming the teachers but that is nothing more than being defensive about getting less but I am certain that you feel it is okay that I live with less so that you don’t have to because if we leave things the way that they are, that is what will happen.  So my question to you is, are you more important than those of us employed in the private sector because you chose to be a teacher?, because that is the message you are sending.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You may see it as us blaming the teachers but that is nothing more than being defensive about getting less but I am certain that you feel it is okay that I live with less so that you don’t have to because if we leave things the way that they are, that is what will happen.  So my question to you is, are you more important than those of us employed in the private sector because you chose to be a teacher?, because that is the message you are sending.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You may see it as us blaming the teachers but that is nothing more than being defensive about getting less but I am certain that you feel it is okay that I live with less so that you don’t have to because if we leave things the way that they are, that is what will happen.  So my question to you is, are you more important than those of us employed in the private sector because you chose to be a teacher?, because that is the message you are sending.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You may see it as us blaming the teachers but that is nothing more than being defensive about getting less but I am certain that you feel it is okay that I live with less so that you don’t have to because if we leave things the way that they are, that is what will happen.  So my question to you is, are you more important than those of us employed in the private sector because you chose to be a teacher?, because that is the message you are sending.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    You may see it as us blaming the teachers but that is nothing more than being defensive about getting less but I am certain that you feel it is okay that I live with less so that you don’t have to because if we leave things the way that they are, that is what will happen.  So my question to you is, are you more important than those of us employed in the private sector because you chose to be a teacher?, because that is the message you are sending.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    As usual, you make no sense or should I say cents.

  • Anonymous

    The 20 years into the future was used because of the 20 year CPI index basis.  Mr. Riot also gave 10 year stops.  Your comment is certainly less than business savy.  Can you say statistical anaylsis?  Rant on!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    I do check them every year because I get a statement and my retirement age is 66, no early options like State workers and teachers and no chance to get a double retirement like State workers and teachers.  You can believe what you want and I am certain I would be in your court if I were a State worker or teacher but I’m not, I’m the one that is paying the price of unreasonable contracts that the Unions negotiated with their bought and paid for democrats for the past 40 years.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    I do check them every year because I get a statement and my retirement age is 66, no early options like State workers and teachers and no chance to get a double retirement like State workers and teachers.  You can believe what you want and I am certain I would be in your court if I were a State worker or teacher but I’m not, I’m the one that is paying the price of unreasonable contracts that the Unions negotiated with their bought and paid for democrats for the past 40 years.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Agreed but what is your point?

  • Anonymous

    This has nothing to do with Statistics which I minored in…This has to do with State and Government employees thinking the private sector owes them something….you make choices in life…if you wanted to be a teacher good for you but not at my expense…exactly why I send my children to private school…I prefer them not to learn how to live off the government teet…

  • Anonymous

    Some state agencies work on a 25 year retirement plan with no age restriction.  If an individual starts working for that agency at 22 years old out after graduating college it would be assumed they can retire from that position at 47 years old.  If that person lives to be mid 70′s then that is nearly 30 years to collect retirement benefits.  Your statement is what is unbelievable.  These people earn the benefits that we are taking from them.  I would much rather see the state make cuts in other areas than to rob these individuals of money they have planned to depend upon in their retired years. 
    Just for the record I have no personal stake in this as I am not a state employee.  I just think it is aweful to take from these people who worked for these benefits.  I would much rather see reductions in DHHS or Welfare services.  Make those who are able to work actually get out and do it…

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    OMG . . . talk about putting a spin on things . . .

  • Anonymous

    Iam a non union worker that will have to work probable till 67-70 for S.S what is the beef for not getting a couple percent on their retirement.Just because they work for the state does not mean they do not have to (eat their peas)like the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    Iam a non union worker that will have to work probable till 67-70 for S.S what is the beef for not getting a couple percent on their retirement.Just because they work for the state does not mean they do not have to (eat their peas)like the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    Iam a non union worker that will have to work probable till 67-70 for S.S what is the beef for not getting a couple percent on their retirement.Just because they work for the state does not mean they do not have to (eat their peas)like the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    Iam a non union worker that will have to work probable till 67-70 for S.S what is the beef for not getting a couple percent on their retirement.Just because they work for the state does not mean they do not have to (eat their peas)like the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    Iam a non union worker that will have to work probable till 67-70 for S.S what is the beef for not getting a couple percent on their retirement.Just because they work for the state does not mean they do not have to (eat their peas)like the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, people are waking up to the fact that our government is spending more money than it takes in and are more aware of wasted money.  This has made them look closer at public sector positions and we aren’t seeing sacrifices from those that are supported by those of us that still have jobs.  It is true that when the economy is doing well that most people don’t pay as much attention to waste and fraud as they should be.  Health care costs are increasing at a dramatic rate and people can’t afford it – it is only natural for them to expect public sector employees to pay their fair share for benefits that they receive.  Teachers are retiring at 60 with full retirements – you don’t see this very often in the private sector.   There are many people out there that “dared get an education” that don’t have health care where they work. (Why exactly is it a “dare” to get an education?)

    State retirees don’t deserve COLA raises on retirement – that doesn’t happen for private sector employees that are lucky to have retirement plans.

    It is not true that teachers are underpaid.  If you calculate the hourly rate for a beginning teacher at $30K they are making about $21 per hour – I think that is pretty good – there are lots of college grads that would be happy with that starting wage.  The average teacher works 182 days per year a year and if you calculate that at 8 hours a day (and with that I am being very generous) you get $21 per hour.  Where else can you work and get excellent healthcare, a retirement plan where you can retire at 60 (and is paid for by the taxpayer), have summers off, have at least 3 more weeks off during the year, get paid for snow days, etc?  The answer is nowhere.  A teacher that is making $40K is making $27.48 per hour, one that is making $50K is making $34.34 per hour, etc.

    Sorry, but you can’t compare a teacher to a doctor, engineer, etc.

    And why should teachers continue to get raises every year on the taxpayers dime when the economy is so bad?  Many in the private sector haven’t seen raises in years.  Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality).

    And don’t start in on all the extra hours that teachers put in getting ready for the next day, etc.  With specials and other breaks during the day teachers only spend about 1/2 of the day with the student.  They get that work done during the day.  The old days of the teacher working late days and taking work home are over – those few that you do see doing that are the teachers that excel in the classroom.

    Those of us in the private sector are lucky if we have a poor health care package, 2 weeks vacation a year, and a 401K that only we contribute to and worry about every time we see the news.  We also work hundreds more hours per year than you do.

    So, stop whining.  You have a very good gig and you know it.  You should be thanking taxpayers for your position and all its perks.  Hopefully you are a decent teacher and we are getting something for our money – I doubt that after seeing your poor grammar skills.

  • Anonymous

    YOUR money, huh buddy? 

  • Anonymous

    YOUR money, huh buddy? 

  • Anonymous

    Teachers made a trade-off between earnings and “touching the future”.   Readings many of these comments, filled with heinous negatives about unearned entitlements, undeserving public servants and similar rants, I get the impression that many are saying hooray to LePage because they are envious and what to characterize those who have worked to obtain a mere modicum of financial security as being, somehow, treacherous people bent on getting more than they gave.

    Read some history.  This ungodly alliance between the upper echelon and the underachievers is not boding well for our society.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers made a trade-off between earnings and “touching the future”.   Readings many of these comments, filled with heinous negatives about unearned entitlements, undeserving public servants and similar rants, I get the impression that many are saying hooray to LePage because they are envious and what to characterize those who have worked to obtain a mere modicum of financial security as being, somehow, treacherous people bent on getting more than they gave.

    Read some history.  This ungodly alliance between the upper echelon and the underachievers is not boding well for our society.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who still believes in the “trickle down” theory is hardly credible.

    It seems that instead of seeing that these public workers have sacrificed too, they only see what it is about for them….”Our COLA  has been cut” etc etc.     The, “us against them” mentality perpetuated instead of considering that public workers have worked hard too, and were promised something and that is now being broken (that trust, so to speak.) One can certainly understand the way some of these public workers (teachers,etc.) feel.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who still believes in the “trickle down” theory is hardly credible.

    It seems that instead of seeing that these public workers have sacrificed too, they only see what it is about for them….”Our COLA  has been cut” etc etc.     The, “us against them” mentality perpetuated instead of considering that public workers have worked hard too, and were promised something and that is now being broken (that trust, so to speak.) One can certainly understand the way some of these public workers (teachers,etc.) feel.

  • Anonymous

    I agree LePage should cut 75% of the ridiculous welfare programs that Maine has so that a bunch of oxycontin, bath salt lazy bums can sit around while I work for them to sit around…This country is in big trouble and federal, state, and local employees seem to want to just keep sucking the system dry…we are out of money folks we have been paying these over inflated benefits too long and it is time to wake up..retirement at 47 is nuts give me a break…

  • Anonymous

    I agree LePage should cut 75% of the ridiculous welfare programs that Maine has so that a bunch of oxycontin, bath salt lazy bums can sit around while I work for them to sit around…This country is in big trouble and federal, state, and local employees seem to want to just keep sucking the system dry…we are out of money folks we have been paying these over inflated benefits too long and it is time to wake up..retirement at 47 is nuts give me a break…

  • Anonymous

    And there it is . . . “I sent MY children to private school.”  Trust fund?!?!

  • Anonymous

    And there it is . . . “I sent MY children to private school.”  Trust fund?!?!

  • Anonymous

    And there it is . . . “I sent MY children to private school.”  Trust fund?!?!

  • Anonymous

    The animosity towards teachers these days is deplorable. You never heard it like that before.  People ought to wake up and realize the importance of teachers in educating our future citizens and workforce.  To minimize their contributions is not going to be beneficial in the long run.

  • Anonymous

    So, why should they get any of it?

  • Anonymous

    So, why should they get any of it?

  • Anonymous

    So, why should they get any of it?

  • Anonymous

    They don’t even have their facts straight.

  • Anonymous

    They don’t even have their facts straight.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah right!  Don’t hold your breath…

  • Anonymous

    Yeah right!  Don’t hold your breath…

  • Anonymous

    Yeah right!  Don’t hold your breath…

  • Anonymous

    Yeah right!  Don’t hold your breath…

  • Anonymous

    Yes we are Bonny.

  • Anonymous

    Yes we are Bonny.

  • Anonymous

    Yes we are Bonny.

  • Anonymous

    Yes we are Bonny.

  • Anonymous

    Yes we are Bonny.

  • Anonymous

    I wish I had a trust fund…no my dad worked his whole life up until 70 years old and while not poor certainly not rich….I earned my money the old fashioned way I worked for it…I work about 60 hours a week…am I successful absolutely…do I do well monetarily absolutely..am I counting on tax payers money to fund my retirement absolutely not…

  • Anonymous

    Sarcasm….it was sarcasm…..

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    The answer to the ailing economy is not class warfare. Blame the wealthy all you want to but this will not help get the economy back on track one iota. What is needed is to put in measures to stop and reverse the job drain. America has been relying on foreign imports far too long, and now we are beginning to pay the price in lost jobs and wealth.

    One good start would be to increase our oil production to relieve our foreign debt and downward pressure on the US dollar. Replacing the antiquated income tax for a tax based on consumption is  a good idea whose time has come. Spending our way out of recessions like what has been done in the past no longer works. A tax on consumption instead of income would discourage much needless and wasteful spending in a new era where there is increasing competition worldwide for raw materials used in manufacturing. It would also drastically cut income tax fraud (thus providing more revenue), eliminate much of IRS, tax agents, and needless book keeping besides making US products less costly here and abroad.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • Anonymous

    How it’s sliced is important.  You know there were other ways to solvency.  Please avoid the over-simplification as rationale.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Do you need a public sector?  Do you use roads?  Do you rely on a justice and legal system that the public accepts to resolve differences?  If you sell somebody something and they don’t pay, do you have to have someone hit on occasion to make sure your customers pay up?  How are your insurance rates?  What would they be if you didn’t have a fire department somewhere in the vicinity?  If you have money, do you worry about becoming the target of people in the ransom business? 

    So you send your children to a private school?  Did your employees go to a private school?  How about the dental assistant you may have seen recently or a nurse when you sought medical attention?  How about the people on the road crews who give you a reasonably good road to travel on and conduct business on?  How about the UPS deliveryman or woman and the people who made sure your important package go to you or your customer?  From now until the end of your work day, do this.  Everytime you meet someone who is significant to you in some way or you have to count on for something, ask yourself, “Did the public help make that person competent to do his or her job?”

    “Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society” – Oliver Wendell Holmes, Civil War Veteran and Supreme Court Justice (and a Republican).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Do you need a public sector?  Do you use roads?  Do you rely on a justice and legal system that the public accepts to resolve differences?  If you sell somebody something and they don’t pay, do you have to have someone hit on occasion to make sure your customers pay up?  How are your insurance rates?  What would they be if you didn’t have a fire department somewhere in the vicinity?  If you have money, do you worry about becoming the target of people in the ransom business? 

    So you send your children to a private school?  Did your employees go to a private school?  How about the dental assistant you may have seen recently or a nurse when you sought medical attention?  How about the people on the road crews who give you a reasonably good road to travel on and conduct business on?  How about the UPS deliveryman or woman and the people who made sure your important package go to you or your customer?  From now until the end of your work day, do this.  Everytime you meet someone who is significant to you in some way or you have to count on for something, ask yourself, “Did the public help make that person competent to do his or her job?”

    “Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society” – Oliver Wendell Holmes, Civil War Veteran and Supreme Court Justice (and a Republican).

  • Anonymous

    Government can’t play God and people shouldn’t expect it to. Or else your surname is the inevitable result.

  • Anonymous

    Government can’t play God and people shouldn’t expect it to. Or else your surname is the inevitable result.

  • Anonymous

    Government can’t play God and people shouldn’t expect it to. Or else your surname is the inevitable result.

  • Anonymous

    Government can’t play God and people shouldn’t expect it to. Or else your surname is the inevitable result.

  • Anonymous

    You should try reading the constitution…you have a lot of time living off my tax money…

  • Anonymous

    You should try reading the constitution…you have a lot of time living off my tax money…

  • Anonymous

    You should try reading the constitution…you have a lot of time living off my tax money…

  • Anonymous

    You should try reading the constitution…you have a lot of time living off my tax money…

  • Anonymous

    You should try reading the constitution…you have a lot of time living off my tax money…

  • Anonymous

    You should try reading the constitution…you have a lot of time living off my tax money…

  • Anonymous

    You should try reading the constitution…you have a lot of time living off my tax money…

  • Anonymous

    People tend to for get that when money is given to someone for work, it is no longer their money. I guess we should stop SSI right now for everyone, because I don’t want my money going for that..What makes any of you a harder or better worker. Some of you seem to forget that these thing were implemented, to free up jobs for the young!

  • Anonymous

    People tend to for get that when money is given to someone for work, it is no longer their money. I guess we should stop SSI right now for everyone, because I don’t want my money going for that..What makes any of you a harder or better worker. Some of you seem to forget that these thing were implemented, to free up jobs for the young!

  • Anonymous

    A wise and frugal
    government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of
    industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor
    the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government.

    Thomas Jefferson 

  • Anonymous

    A wise and frugal
    government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of
    industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor
    the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government.

    Thomas Jefferson 

  • Anonymous

    A wise and frugal
    government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of
    industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor
    the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government.

    Thomas Jefferson 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    There is a possibly apocryphal story about Lyndon Johnson.  In the early 50′s he was confronted by an aggrieved taxpayer, let’s call him Earl.  It was in Texas.  Earl was complaining about his “high” income taxes as a result of the New Deal and World War II.  Johnson said, “Why Earl, I don’t know why you’re complaining.  I remember you from 20 years ago.  You didn’t have any income to pay taxes on.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    There is a possibly apocryphal story about Lyndon Johnson.  In the early 50′s he was confronted by an aggrieved taxpayer, let’s call him Earl.  It was in Texas.  Earl was complaining about his “high” income taxes as a result of the New Deal and World War II.  Johnson said, “Why Earl, I don’t know why you’re complaining.  I remember you from 20 years ago.  You didn’t have any income to pay taxes on.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    There is a possibly apocryphal story about Lyndon Johnson.  In the early 50′s he was confronted by an aggrieved taxpayer, let’s call him Earl.  It was in Texas.  Earl was complaining about his “high” income taxes as a result of the New Deal and World War II.  Johnson said, “Why Earl, I don’t know why you’re complaining.  I remember you from 20 years ago.  You didn’t have any income to pay taxes on.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    There is a possibly apocryphal story about Lyndon Johnson.  In the early 50′s he was confronted by an aggrieved taxpayer, let’s call him Earl.  It was in Texas.  Earl was complaining about his “high” income taxes as a result of the New Deal and World War II.  Johnson said, “Why Earl, I don’t know why you’re complaining.  I remember you from 20 years ago.  You didn’t have any income to pay taxes on.”

  • StillRelaxin

    Nice post!  It is thus far the clearest and most correct thought posted by anyone on this discussion board.  Seems that one political party is more interested in creating more of the envious masses every day doesn’t it?  Turning the best teaching candidates away from careers in education should help that process right along.

  • StillRelaxin

    Nice post!  It is thus far the clearest and most correct thought posted by anyone on this discussion board.  Seems that one political party is more interested in creating more of the envious masses every day doesn’t it?  Turning the best teaching candidates away from careers in education should help that process right along.

  • StillRelaxin

    Nice post!  It is thus far the clearest and most correct thought posted by anyone on this discussion board.  Seems that one political party is more interested in creating more of the envious masses every day doesn’t it?  Turning the best teaching candidates away from careers in education should help that process right along.

  • StillRelaxin

    Nice post!  It is thus far the clearest and most correct thought posted by anyone on this discussion board.  Seems that one political party is more interested in creating more of the envious masses every day doesn’t it?  Turning the best teaching candidates away from careers in education should help that process right along.

  • StillRelaxin

    Nice post!  It is thus far the clearest and most correct thought posted by anyone on this discussion board.  Seems that one political party is more interested in creating more of the envious masses every day doesn’t it?  Turning the best teaching candidates away from careers in education should help that process right along.

  • Anonymous

    Then continue to use these other skills in a second profession or career. Working for 20-30 years doesn’t give you the right retire for another 20 and expect to be paid provided for.

    You are good with numbers. Then you will understand we have unreasonable expectations on a societal level. When Social Security and traditional pension plans were formulated most people never drew benefits. If they did, it was for a few years on average. We now want to retire at 55-65 and live until we are 80. Our medical costs sky-rocket as we keep people alive. Social Security and Medicare can’t be sustained.

    My Grandfather retired at 57 but worked many secondary jobs until his mid-70s. He is now in his mid 80s-approaching 30 years retirement. It is unsustainable.

    Please don’t indoctrinate our children with your self-sustaining, self-interested view points.

  • Anonymous

    Then continue to use these other skills in a second profession or career. Working for 20-30 years doesn’t give you the right retire for another 20 and expect to be paid provided for.

    You are good with numbers. Then you will understand we have unreasonable expectations on a societal level. When Social Security and traditional pension plans were formulated most people never drew benefits. If they did, it was for a few years on average. We now want to retire at 55-65 and live until we are 80. Our medical costs sky-rocket as we keep people alive. Social Security and Medicare can’t be sustained.

    My Grandfather retired at 57 but worked many secondary jobs until his mid-70s. He is now in his mid 80s-approaching 30 years retirement. It is unsustainable.

    Please don’t indoctrinate our children with your self-sustaining, self-interested view points.

  • Anonymous

    Then continue to use these other skills in a second profession or career. Working for 20-30 years doesn’t give you the right retire for another 20 and expect to be paid provided for.

    You are good with numbers. Then you will understand we have unreasonable expectations on a societal level. When Social Security and traditional pension plans were formulated most people never drew benefits. If they did, it was for a few years on average. We now want to retire at 55-65 and live until we are 80. Our medical costs sky-rocket as we keep people alive. Social Security and Medicare can’t be sustained.

    My Grandfather retired at 57 but worked many secondary jobs until his mid-70s. He is now in his mid 80s-approaching 30 years retirement. It is unsustainable.

    Please don’t indoctrinate our children with your self-sustaining, self-interested view points.

  • Anonymous

    Then continue to use these other skills in a second profession or career. Working for 20-30 years doesn’t give you the right retire for another 20 and expect to be paid provided for.

    You are good with numbers. Then you will understand we have unreasonable expectations on a societal level. When Social Security and traditional pension plans were formulated most people never drew benefits. If they did, it was for a few years on average. We now want to retire at 55-65 and live until we are 80. Our medical costs sky-rocket as we keep people alive. Social Security and Medicare can’t be sustained.

    My Grandfather retired at 57 but worked many secondary jobs until his mid-70s. He is now in his mid 80s-approaching 30 years retirement. It is unsustainable.

    Please don’t indoctrinate our children with your self-sustaining, self-interested view points.

  • Anonymous

    Then continue to use these other skills in a second profession or career. Working for 20-30 years doesn’t give you the right retire for another 20 and expect to be paid provided for.

    You are good with numbers. Then you will understand we have unreasonable expectations on a societal level. When Social Security and traditional pension plans were formulated most people never drew benefits. If they did, it was for a few years on average. We now want to retire at 55-65 and live until we are 80. Our medical costs sky-rocket as we keep people alive. Social Security and Medicare can’t be sustained.

    My Grandfather retired at 57 but worked many secondary jobs until his mid-70s. He is now in his mid 80s-approaching 30 years retirement. It is unsustainable.

    Please don’t indoctrinate our children with your self-sustaining, self-interested view points.

  • Anonymous

    Then continue to use these other skills in a second profession or career. Working for 20-30 years doesn’t give you the right retire for another 20 and expect to be paid provided for.

    You are good with numbers. Then you will understand we have unreasonable expectations on a societal level. When Social Security and traditional pension plans were formulated most people never drew benefits. If they did, it was for a few years on average. We now want to retire at 55-65 and live until we are 80. Our medical costs sky-rocket as we keep people alive. Social Security and Medicare can’t be sustained.

    My Grandfather retired at 57 but worked many secondary jobs until his mid-70s. He is now in his mid 80s-approaching 30 years retirement. It is unsustainable.

    Please don’t indoctrinate our children with your self-sustaining, self-interested view points.

  • Anonymous

    Then continue to use these other skills in a second profession or career. Working for 20-30 years doesn’t give you the right retire for another 20 and expect to be paid provided for.

    You are good with numbers. Then you will understand we have unreasonable expectations on a societal level. When Social Security and traditional pension plans were formulated most people never drew benefits. If they did, it was for a few years on average. We now want to retire at 55-65 and live until we are 80. Our medical costs sky-rocket as we keep people alive. Social Security and Medicare can’t be sustained.

    My Grandfather retired at 57 but worked many secondary jobs until his mid-70s. He is now in his mid 80s-approaching 30 years retirement. It is unsustainable.

    Please don’t indoctrinate our children with your self-sustaining, self-interested view points.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Your quote from Thomas Jefferson isn’t in the Constitution.  I’m willing to make that bet without looking it up.  But just to make sure (I make it a practice of making sure I can back up what I say), I’ll refer to my copy of  Constitutional Law by John Nowak and Ronald Rotunda and Constitutional Law by William Cohen and Jonathan Varat, both within 10 steps of this computer. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Your quote from Thomas Jefferson isn’t in the Constitution.  I’m willing to make that bet without looking it up.  But just to make sure (I make it a practice of making sure I can back up what I say), I’ll refer to my copy of  Constitutional Law by John Nowak and Ronald Rotunda and Constitutional Law by William Cohen and Jonathan Varat, both within 10 steps of this computer. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Your quote from Thomas Jefferson isn’t in the Constitution.  I’m willing to make that bet without looking it up.  But just to make sure (I make it a practice of making sure I can back up what I say), I’ll refer to my copy of  Constitutional Law by John Nowak and Ronald Rotunda and Constitutional Law by William Cohen and Jonathan Varat, both within 10 steps of this computer. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Your quote from Thomas Jefferson isn’t in the Constitution.  I’m willing to make that bet without looking it up.  But just to make sure (I make it a practice of making sure I can back up what I say), I’ll refer to my copy of  Constitutional Law by John Nowak and Ronald Rotunda and Constitutional Law by William Cohen and Jonathan Varat, both within 10 steps of this computer. 

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers vote too.  I guess LePage didn’t figure on that.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it’s time for teachers to participate in Social Security instead of this system which relies on the state to honor its contract with them. Once a contract is dishonored, it’s as good as null and void if both parties let things slide. Teachers can’t depend now that the state won’t go after their monthly checks as well as their COLA.

  • Anonymous

    Also, I would be surprised if you didn’t get a graduate degree paid for by the taxpayer while you were a teacher. Once you received that graduate degree you probably got a raise too didn’t you? Summers off, great healthcare, guaranteed benefits, exclusion from the consequences of the market (well, until now), free advanced education, tenure…

    Such a sad story. Appreciate what you have. If you want wealth. Go get it. Go make it. Otherwise you have a enjoyed a very comfortable American life working in a comfortable job.

    FYI…not all graduate degrees are equal. A graduate degree in Education isn’t useful anywhere except in the education fields. I know plenty of people with grad degrees, law degrees, etc. who are working in restaurants in the private sector. I know those with high school diplomas only who are rolling in the dough. Welcome to life…its a crazy Riot!

  • Anonymous

    Also, I would be surprised if you didn’t get a graduate degree paid for by the taxpayer while you were a teacher. Once you received that graduate degree you probably got a raise too didn’t you? Summers off, great healthcare, guaranteed benefits, exclusion from the consequences of the market (well, until now), free advanced education, tenure…

    Such a sad story. Appreciate what you have. If you want wealth. Go get it. Go make it. Otherwise you have a enjoyed a very comfortable American life working in a comfortable job.

    FYI…not all graduate degrees are equal. A graduate degree in Education isn’t useful anywhere except in the education fields. I know plenty of people with grad degrees, law degrees, etc. who are working in restaurants in the private sector. I know those with high school diplomas only who are rolling in the dough. Welcome to life…its a crazy Riot!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Good idea, why didn’t I think of that?  Actually I already have and will work at something.  Plans are in the works.  When I put out the figures regarding retirement, I just put out facts so that the readers of the article could put a dollar figure on the headline phrase “at a cost”.  There are a couple of concerns I have with regard to LePage’s changes.  Generally it is considered unacceptable to change the terms of an agreement retroactively.  That is often viewed as a breech of contract.  And this smacks of such a breech.  Looking at this from an economic point of view, will a reduction of benefits provided for teachers reduce the quality of the people entering and staying in the profession?  You get what you pay for is sometimes the guiding principle.

  • Anonymous

    Of course it is not in the constitution. Just seemed appropriate considering your complete lack of understanding of what our nation is built on….

  • Anonymous

    Of course it is not in the constitution. Just seemed appropriate considering your complete lack of understanding of what our nation is built on….

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Hehe, we told you one thing in order to get you to spend your years OFF social security…now we won’t pay you! haha

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Hehe, we told you one thing in order to get you to spend your years OFF social security…now we won’t pay you! haha

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Hehe, we told you one thing in order to get you to spend your years OFF social security…now we won’t pay you! haha

  • Anonymous

    Seems to me that if my wage is frozen, the pensions should be frozen as well.  4% COLA?  Gosh, that’s paying people who don’t work when people who do work get nothing.  How come?  Am I missing something here? 

  • Anonymous

    Seems to me that if my wage is frozen, the pensions should be frozen as well.  4% COLA?  Gosh, that’s paying people who don’t work when people who do work get nothing.  How come?  Am I missing something here? 

  • Anonymous

    Seems to me that if my wage is frozen, the pensions should be frozen as well.  4% COLA?  Gosh, that’s paying people who don’t work when people who do work get nothing.  How come?  Am I missing something here? 

  • Anonymous

    Seems to me that if my wage is frozen, the pensions should be frozen as well.  4% COLA?  Gosh, that’s paying people who don’t work when people who do work get nothing.  How come?  Am I missing something here? 

  • Anonymous

    Seems to me that if my wage is frozen, the pensions should be frozen as well.  4% COLA?  Gosh, that’s paying people who don’t work when people who do work get nothing.  How come?  Am I missing something here? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    My graduate degree was paid for by taxpayers.  I used the GI Bill.  Do you also have a DD 214?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    My graduate degree was paid for by taxpayers.  I used the GI Bill.  Do you also have a DD 214?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    My graduate degree was paid for by taxpayers.  I used the GI Bill.  Do you also have a DD 214?

  • Anonymous

    The explain why every state job advertised contains a phrase like “value of states contribution to employees retirement (with some figure between 15% and 20% of pay).  Social security is 6.2%

  • Anonymous

    When was the last time we really tried to spend our way out of a recession by creating jobs? 45% of the stimulus bill was tax cuts and most of the rest went to states to help them pay their bills and retain the workforce they already had. Hardly any of it went to infrastructure rebuilding because, as Obama found out, there are no “shovel-ready” jobs ready to go.

    Tax cuts are, in effect, spending as we need to borrow the money to make up for the loss in revenue. The tax cuts for the wealthy did not create jobs for the people that need them, it only concentrated more of the wealth at the top.

    I agree with the ideas you offer on oil production and tax overhaul but they are only part of the answer. The businesses need to bring production back to this country and increase our exports to the world instead of just moving the factories to the markets they seek. Then again, tax breaks alone will not make that happen. When the corporations were given a tax break holiday during the Bush years, they brought the money back, but they didn’t invest in production or create jobs.

    American business needs to play ball and invest in America. Put money back in the hands of American workers and create the demand they seek to be profitable. Only then will we stop the economic downhill slide we find ourselves in.

  • Anonymous

    And I have been teaching for almost 30 years . . . am I good at it?  You bet I am.  Do I earn my money the old fashioned way?  You bet I do.  During the school year – I work more than 60 hours per week.  In the summer – I have a summer job (pay into Social Security and will never see a cent of it).  I have NO choice but to pay into the Maine State Retirement system.  Yeah, that’s right . . . I PAY into the Retirement System . . . MY hard earned money – paid into the system.  So, I am NOT counting on tax payers money – well, yes I am actually – MY money – that’s what I will take out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    And I have been teaching for almost 30 years . . . am I good at it?  You bet I am.  Do I earn my money the old fashioned way?  You bet I do.  During the school year – I work more than 60 hours per week.  In the summer – I have a summer job (pay into Social Security and will never see a cent of it).  I have NO choice but to pay into the Maine State Retirement system.  Yeah, that’s right . . . I PAY into the Retirement System . . . MY hard earned money – paid into the system.  So, I am NOT counting on tax payers money – well, yes I am actually – MY money – that’s what I will take out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    And I have been teaching for almost 30 years . . . am I good at it?  You bet I am.  Do I earn my money the old fashioned way?  You bet I do.  During the school year – I work more than 60 hours per week.  In the summer – I have a summer job (pay into Social Security and will never see a cent of it).  I have NO choice but to pay into the Maine State Retirement system.  Yeah, that’s right . . . I PAY into the Retirement System . . . MY hard earned money – paid into the system.  So, I am NOT counting on tax payers money – well, yes I am actually – MY money – that’s what I will take out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    And I have been teaching for almost 30 years . . . am I good at it?  You bet I am.  Do I earn my money the old fashioned way?  You bet I do.  During the school year – I work more than 60 hours per week.  In the summer – I have a summer job (pay into Social Security and will never see a cent of it).  I have NO choice but to pay into the Maine State Retirement system.  Yeah, that’s right . . . I PAY into the Retirement System . . . MY hard earned money – paid into the system.  So, I am NOT counting on tax payers money – well, yes I am actually – MY money – that’s what I will take out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    And I have been teaching for almost 30 years . . . am I good at it?  You bet I am.  Do I earn my money the old fashioned way?  You bet I do.  During the school year – I work more than 60 hours per week.  In the summer – I have a summer job (pay into Social Security and will never see a cent of it).  I have NO choice but to pay into the Maine State Retirement system.  Yeah, that’s right . . . I PAY into the Retirement System . . . MY hard earned money – paid into the system.  So, I am NOT counting on tax payers money – well, yes I am actually – MY money – that’s what I will take out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    And I have been teaching for almost 30 years . . . am I good at it?  You bet I am.  Do I earn my money the old fashioned way?  You bet I do.  During the school year – I work more than 60 hours per week.  In the summer – I have a summer job (pay into Social Security and will never see a cent of it).  I have NO choice but to pay into the Maine State Retirement system.  Yeah, that’s right . . . I PAY into the Retirement System . . . MY hard earned money – paid into the system.  So, I am NOT counting on tax payers money – well, yes I am actually – MY money – that’s what I will take out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    And I have been teaching for almost 30 years . . . am I good at it?  You bet I am.  Do I earn my money the old fashioned way?  You bet I do.  During the school year – I work more than 60 hours per week.  In the summer – I have a summer job (pay into Social Security and will never see a cent of it).  I have NO choice but to pay into the Maine State Retirement system.  Yeah, that’s right . . . I PAY into the Retirement System . . . MY hard earned money – paid into the system.  So, I am NOT counting on tax payers money – well, yes I am actually – MY money – that’s what I will take out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head!  Both my husband and I (in our late 40′s) know that there will be no retirement for us.  We will need to work until we drop dead.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head!  Both my husband and I (in our late 40′s) know that there will be no retirement for us.  We will need to work until we drop dead.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head!  Both my husband and I (in our late 40′s) know that there will be no retirement for us.  We will need to work until we drop dead.

  • Anonymous

    You hit the nail on the head!  Both my husband and I (in our late 40′s) know that there will be no retirement for us.  We will need to work until we drop dead.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Let’s do a comparison, you and me, since this is becoming personal.  Right now I am reading Mutiny on the Armistad, A Random Walk Down Wall Street, John Adams by David McCullough, and a biography of Judah Benjamin, Confederate Secretary of War.  (The bookmarks are working their way along.)  I just finished Ordeal at Sea, a book about the sinking of the Indianapolis, and Twilight at Little Round Top.  I’m guessing that you know the significance of Little Round Top.   What are you doing to to broaden your understanding of our nation?

  • Anonymous

    Yes sir I do…and the GI Bill is not paid for the by the taxpayer. The GI Bill is actually a net benefit for the government as almost all service members pay in and very few utilize the benefits and far fewer utilize all of them until they obtain a degree. I plan to use mine for a graduate degree as well. I think military pensions, veterans disability and healthcare, as well as overall defense spending need to be part of the budget discussions on the federal level. There is plenty of waste there.

  • Anonymous

    Yes sir I do…and the GI Bill is not paid for the by the taxpayer. The GI Bill is actually a net benefit for the government as almost all service members pay in and very few utilize the benefits and far fewer utilize all of them until they obtain a degree. I plan to use mine for a graduate degree as well. I think military pensions, veterans disability and healthcare, as well as overall defense spending need to be part of the budget discussions on the federal level. There is plenty of waste there.

  • Anonymous

    Yes sir I do…and the GI Bill is not paid for the by the taxpayer. The GI Bill is actually a net benefit for the government as almost all service members pay in and very few utilize the benefits and far fewer utilize all of them until they obtain a degree. I plan to use mine for a graduate degree as well. I think military pensions, veterans disability and healthcare, as well as overall defense spending need to be part of the budget discussions on the federal level. There is plenty of waste there.

  • Anonymous

    I am not whining about my position.  I also went to school and worked very hard to get where I am.  My point is that many in the private sector (and I have worked in the private sector as well) ridicule teachers for getting raises each year (although it typically is not a huge amount), yet in the private sector, people can be in the position to get large raises or yearly bonuses, etc which people in the public sector do not have.  

    I agree 100% that the government is spending way too much money for what it takes in.  Of course I would much rather see our tax base increase and get some people to work (many who have zero interest in working) before squeezing gainfully employed people (public sector OR private sector).  You are one to talk about grammar skills.

    One final question, since education has traditionally been such a fantastic deal, why 20 years ago (and 10 years ago and 5 years ago) would teachers be laughed at with “oh, you teach….I could never teach…can’t make enough money”

    You are lying if you have not heard those comments countless times over the past 2 decades.  Well, which is is, do we not make enough money or are we all driving a Mercedes?  As I said, I worked in the private sector, was very underpaid for what I did.  I did luckily have pretty good healthcare with the company though.  I wasn’t happy with what I was doing so I went back to school, got another degree to get the position I wanted.  There are many people out there who instead of trying to improve their position just complain about what they perceive others as having.

    Right now, the private sector is down.  It will bounce back although it is taking much longer than normal.  When it does, the comments will start again about how “I couldn’t teach, don’t make enough money”

  • Anonymous

    I am not whining about my position.  I also went to school and worked very hard to get where I am.  My point is that many in the private sector (and I have worked in the private sector as well) ridicule teachers for getting raises each year (although it typically is not a huge amount), yet in the private sector, people can be in the position to get large raises or yearly bonuses, etc which people in the public sector do not have.  

    I agree 100% that the government is spending way too much money for what it takes in.  Of course I would much rather see our tax base increase and get some people to work (many who have zero interest in working) before squeezing gainfully employed people (public sector OR private sector).  You are one to talk about grammar skills.

    One final question, since education has traditionally been such a fantastic deal, why 20 years ago (and 10 years ago and 5 years ago) would teachers be laughed at with “oh, you teach….I could never teach…can’t make enough money”

    You are lying if you have not heard those comments countless times over the past 2 decades.  Well, which is is, do we not make enough money or are we all driving a Mercedes?  As I said, I worked in the private sector, was very underpaid for what I did.  I did luckily have pretty good healthcare with the company though.  I wasn’t happy with what I was doing so I went back to school, got another degree to get the position I wanted.  There are many people out there who instead of trying to improve their position just complain about what they perceive others as having.

    Right now, the private sector is down.  It will bounce back although it is taking much longer than normal.  When it does, the comments will start again about how “I couldn’t teach, don’t make enough money”

  • Anonymous

    I am not whining about my position.  I also went to school and worked very hard to get where I am.  My point is that many in the private sector (and I have worked in the private sector as well) ridicule teachers for getting raises each year (although it typically is not a huge amount), yet in the private sector, people can be in the position to get large raises or yearly bonuses, etc which people in the public sector do not have.  

    I agree 100% that the government is spending way too much money for what it takes in.  Of course I would much rather see our tax base increase and get some people to work (many who have zero interest in working) before squeezing gainfully employed people (public sector OR private sector).  You are one to talk about grammar skills.

    One final question, since education has traditionally been such a fantastic deal, why 20 years ago (and 10 years ago and 5 years ago) would teachers be laughed at with “oh, you teach….I could never teach…can’t make enough money”

    You are lying if you have not heard those comments countless times over the past 2 decades.  Well, which is is, do we not make enough money or are we all driving a Mercedes?  As I said, I worked in the private sector, was very underpaid for what I did.  I did luckily have pretty good healthcare with the company though.  I wasn’t happy with what I was doing so I went back to school, got another degree to get the position I wanted.  There are many people out there who instead of trying to improve their position just complain about what they perceive others as having.

    Right now, the private sector is down.  It will bounce back although it is taking much longer than normal.  When it does, the comments will start again about how “I couldn’t teach, don’t make enough money”

  • Anonymous

    I am not whining about my position.  I also went to school and worked very hard to get where I am.  My point is that many in the private sector (and I have worked in the private sector as well) ridicule teachers for getting raises each year (although it typically is not a huge amount), yet in the private sector, people can be in the position to get large raises or yearly bonuses, etc which people in the public sector do not have.  

    I agree 100% that the government is spending way too much money for what it takes in.  Of course I would much rather see our tax base increase and get some people to work (many who have zero interest in working) before squeezing gainfully employed people (public sector OR private sector).  You are one to talk about grammar skills.

    One final question, since education has traditionally been such a fantastic deal, why 20 years ago (and 10 years ago and 5 years ago) would teachers be laughed at with “oh, you teach….I could never teach…can’t make enough money”

    You are lying if you have not heard those comments countless times over the past 2 decades.  Well, which is is, do we not make enough money or are we all driving a Mercedes?  As I said, I worked in the private sector, was very underpaid for what I did.  I did luckily have pretty good healthcare with the company though.  I wasn’t happy with what I was doing so I went back to school, got another degree to get the position I wanted.  There are many people out there who instead of trying to improve their position just complain about what they perceive others as having.

    Right now, the private sector is down.  It will bounce back although it is taking much longer than normal.  When it does, the comments will start again about how “I couldn’t teach, don’t make enough money”

  • Anonymous

    I am not whining about my position.  I also went to school and worked very hard to get where I am.  My point is that many in the private sector (and I have worked in the private sector as well) ridicule teachers for getting raises each year (although it typically is not a huge amount), yet in the private sector, people can be in the position to get large raises or yearly bonuses, etc which people in the public sector do not have.  

    I agree 100% that the government is spending way too much money for what it takes in.  Of course I would much rather see our tax base increase and get some people to work (many who have zero interest in working) before squeezing gainfully employed people (public sector OR private sector).  You are one to talk about grammar skills.

    One final question, since education has traditionally been such a fantastic deal, why 20 years ago (and 10 years ago and 5 years ago) would teachers be laughed at with “oh, you teach….I could never teach…can’t make enough money”

    You are lying if you have not heard those comments countless times over the past 2 decades.  Well, which is is, do we not make enough money or are we all driving a Mercedes?  As I said, I worked in the private sector, was very underpaid for what I did.  I did luckily have pretty good healthcare with the company though.  I wasn’t happy with what I was doing so I went back to school, got another degree to get the position I wanted.  There are many people out there who instead of trying to improve their position just complain about what they perceive others as having.

    Right now, the private sector is down.  It will bounce back although it is taking much longer than normal.  When it does, the comments will start again about how “I couldn’t teach, don’t make enough money”

  • Anonymous

    I am not whining about my position.  I also went to school and worked very hard to get where I am.  My point is that many in the private sector (and I have worked in the private sector as well) ridicule teachers for getting raises each year (although it typically is not a huge amount), yet in the private sector, people can be in the position to get large raises or yearly bonuses, etc which people in the public sector do not have.  

    I agree 100% that the government is spending way too much money for what it takes in.  Of course I would much rather see our tax base increase and get some people to work (many who have zero interest in working) before squeezing gainfully employed people (public sector OR private sector).  You are one to talk about grammar skills.

    One final question, since education has traditionally been such a fantastic deal, why 20 years ago (and 10 years ago and 5 years ago) would teachers be laughed at with “oh, you teach….I could never teach…can’t make enough money”

    You are lying if you have not heard those comments countless times over the past 2 decades.  Well, which is is, do we not make enough money or are we all driving a Mercedes?  As I said, I worked in the private sector, was very underpaid for what I did.  I did luckily have pretty good healthcare with the company though.  I wasn’t happy with what I was doing so I went back to school, got another degree to get the position I wanted.  There are many people out there who instead of trying to improve their position just complain about what they perceive others as having.

    Right now, the private sector is down.  It will bounce back although it is taking much longer than normal.  When it does, the comments will start again about how “I couldn’t teach, don’t make enough money”

  • Anonymous

    I am not whining about my position.  I also went to school and worked very hard to get where I am.  My point is that many in the private sector (and I have worked in the private sector as well) ridicule teachers for getting raises each year (although it typically is not a huge amount), yet in the private sector, people can be in the position to get large raises or yearly bonuses, etc which people in the public sector do not have.  

    I agree 100% that the government is spending way too much money for what it takes in.  Of course I would much rather see our tax base increase and get some people to work (many who have zero interest in working) before squeezing gainfully employed people (public sector OR private sector).  You are one to talk about grammar skills.

    One final question, since education has traditionally been such a fantastic deal, why 20 years ago (and 10 years ago and 5 years ago) would teachers be laughed at with “oh, you teach….I could never teach…can’t make enough money”

    You are lying if you have not heard those comments countless times over the past 2 decades.  Well, which is is, do we not make enough money or are we all driving a Mercedes?  As I said, I worked in the private sector, was very underpaid for what I did.  I did luckily have pretty good healthcare with the company though.  I wasn’t happy with what I was doing so I went back to school, got another degree to get the position I wanted.  There are many people out there who instead of trying to improve their position just complain about what they perceive others as having.

    Right now, the private sector is down.  It will bounce back although it is taking much longer than normal.  When it does, the comments will start again about how “I couldn’t teach, don’t make enough money”

  • Anonymous

    What would be wrong with privatizing those “state” jobs?   I really don’t think that if we get rid of the DOT, DOE and DHHS that no one would pick up the reins and build businesses to cover what those governmental agencies do now and I’m sure they would be done with a lot less administrative costs, duplication costs and waste of resources.

  • Anonymous

    What would be wrong with privatizing those “state” jobs?   I really don’t think that if we get rid of the DOT, DOE and DHHS that no one would pick up the reins and build businesses to cover what those governmental agencies do now and I’m sure they would be done with a lot less administrative costs, duplication costs and waste of resources.

  • Anonymous

    What would be wrong with privatizing those “state” jobs?   I really don’t think that if we get rid of the DOT, DOE and DHHS that no one would pick up the reins and build businesses to cover what those governmental agencies do now and I’m sure they would be done with a lot less administrative costs, duplication costs and waste of resources.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Government is the referee.  Or else there will be riots.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Government is the referee.  Or else there will be riots.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Government is the referee.  Or else there will be riots.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Government is the referee.  Or else there will be riots.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Do you use roads?  Do you rely on a police force and a court system to help keep the peace?  Do you rely on reasonably well-educated people as you go about your business?  Do you like having an army and navy out there, somewhere?  Do you like living in a generally prosperous population who don’t see the necessity of stealing and kidnapping to make ends meet? 

  • dadoje

    The state only pays 5.5% toward state employees retirement it would be 6.2% for social security.. State employees pay 7.65% toward their retirement they would only be paying 4.2% toward social security dropped this year from 6.2%.
     Don’t what those figures are.

  • Anonymous

    It is not being defensive.  I just don’t agree with the hypocrisy of those who well frown upon working in education when the private sector is going well and then say how teachers have it so good when we are in a recession.  I don’t see myself as being more important than people in the private sector, that is crazy.  However, as I mentioned in a previous post, I think our tax base needs to increase, not simply raise taxes on those already paying taxes.  I see many parents of kids at my school who simply sit home all day and have been doing so a very long time.  There is zero reason why they could not be doing something.  They get MUCH more in government benefits than they pay in.  I certainly am not in that boat.  I have commented before that it is amazing that people would rather cut benefits/salaries/retirement/whatever of people who actually work for a living before cutting welfare/capping the number of years you can be on it, etc.

    I work in Education, and I am NOT a union member. 

  • Anonymous

    {The governor said he has a plan for mitigating that loss: He said he will ask the Legislature to eliminate income taxes on all retirement income — including state retirees.
    “By doing all that,” LePage said, “all the adjustments we made and even the devaluations we made … your cash flow is not going to be affected” because retirees will make up what they lost in COLA by lower taxes.}
     If Gov. LaPage is going to eliminate the income tax for all retirees in the state, what will happen when the state looses the revenue the present tax on retirement income?  Won’t the state then be at a loss?  Then the LaPage & those in power in Augusta will cry that the budget shortfall again.  We will then see them pit theose who have not retired against those who have, blaming the retirees for causing the problem with their not having to pay taxes on their income.  Their solution will certainly be to make retirees pay taxes, once again, on their retirement income, thus screwing those who have worked all their lives.
    This is what is happening in our country today from the federal level to the state level.  Those in power are trying to set up the seniors as the cause of all the financial woes facing the country.  Then when a financial crisis comes along, they blame the retirees instead of themselves for creating the problem.  The government plans are to cut benefits & raise taxes on Medicare & Medicaid.  The same thing is also being planned for Social Security.  Now nearly every state is discussing cutting retirement benefits to those employees who have worked hard to earn their retirement, often for lower wages & the promise of a good retirement.  The problem facing most states today is that those in power raided the retirement funds over the years or declined to pay money into them some years, promising to pay it back, but never doing so.  The federal government has also done the same with Social Security over the years.  If anyone should take the blame & have to give up raises, retirement, & perks, it should be those elected officials who created the problem in the first place & are now doing their usual telling of lies to cover the things they have done.

  • Anonymous

    {The governor said he has a plan for mitigating that loss: He said he will ask the Legislature to eliminate income taxes on all retirement income — including state retirees.
    “By doing all that,” LePage said, “all the adjustments we made and even the devaluations we made … your cash flow is not going to be affected” because retirees will make up what they lost in COLA by lower taxes.}
     If Gov. LaPage is going to eliminate the income tax for all retirees in the state, what will happen when the state looses the revenue the present tax on retirement income?  Won’t the state then be at a loss?  Then the LaPage & those in power in Augusta will cry that the budget shortfall again.  We will then see them pit theose who have not retired against those who have, blaming the retirees for causing the problem with their not having to pay taxes on their income.  Their solution will certainly be to make retirees pay taxes, once again, on their retirement income, thus screwing those who have worked all their lives.
    This is what is happening in our country today from the federal level to the state level.  Those in power are trying to set up the seniors as the cause of all the financial woes facing the country.  Then when a financial crisis comes along, they blame the retirees instead of themselves for creating the problem.  The government plans are to cut benefits & raise taxes on Medicare & Medicaid.  The same thing is also being planned for Social Security.  Now nearly every state is discussing cutting retirement benefits to those employees who have worked hard to earn their retirement, often for lower wages & the promise of a good retirement.  The problem facing most states today is that those in power raided the retirement funds over the years or declined to pay money into them some years, promising to pay it back, but never doing so.  The federal government has also done the same with Social Security over the years.  If anyone should take the blame & have to give up raises, retirement, & perks, it should be those elected officials who created the problem in the first place & are now doing their usual telling of lies to cover the things they have done.

  • dadoje

    Retirees do not get a COLA if there is no cost of living increase. The cap is only in place if the cost of living goes over 4% it is not automatic. My husband retired 4 years ago from the state with 40 years of service. He has received a cost of living increase the first year and none for the last 3 years because of the economy.

  • dadoje

    Retirees do not get a COLA if there is no cost of living increase. The cap is only in place if the cost of living goes over 4% it is not automatic. My husband retired 4 years ago from the state with 40 years of service. He has received a cost of living increase the first year and none for the last 3 years because of the economy.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers, unlike most others who have gotten a college degree, have to continually go to college for higher degrees.  This continuing education is not paid by the state or local government, but comes from their own salary., thus reducing the amount of money needed to maintain their household.  How many others must do this?

  • dadoje

    Law enforcement is one of the agencies that have 25 years to retire.
      In most instances if someone retires from the state at 47 years old they will not receive much for retirement. 6% would be deducted for each year ounder normal retirement age at 62. So that would be 15 years early  15 x 6%  = 90% so they would only receive 10% of what they would get if they stayed until 62.

  • Anonymous

    yes yes its all the evil greedy wall street bankers and the evil corporations.

  • Anonymous

    yes yes its all the evil greedy wall street bankers and the evil corporations.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, other states have tried to privatize portions of DOT and DHHS and it has been an abysmal failure.  Despite its inefficiencies, government is pretty good at providing an equal level of service to all. 

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, other states have tried to privatize portions of DOT and DHHS and it has been an abysmal failure.  Despite its inefficiencies, government is pretty good at providing an equal level of service to all. 

  • SwiftyMorgain

    I doubt it! More like give aways to the wealthy billionares with Tax breaks!

       Dont you feel stupid yet promoting for these people at the expense of your working class nieghbor?

  • Anonymous

    “Teachers are retiring at 60 with full retirements – you don’t see this very often in the private sector”

    Really, Maine teachers are retiring at 60 with full retirements? I have never known any, and from my understanding, you get 2% per year so if you have 30 years in at age 60, you can retire with 60%. Teachers can count years of military service as well, but I have been in education 10 years, and I have zero expectation of a full retirement at age 60. That is just not reality.

    Yes, there is a union mentality of many (I don’t share it), and school districts have taken a hit, and many teachers have lost their jobs due to budget cuts. I suppose that doesn’t count as “sacrifice?” Teachers left in those districts typically get larger class sizes, etc, so it stands to reason that they would be working harder. Our district’s teacher’s contracts were done. The most recent one showed zero raise for this past year except your step (level of experience), and honestly, educators are not getting much for raises. I suspect this fall when my new contract takes effect, I will probably take home another $40 every 2 weeks maybe.

  • Anonymous

    “Teachers are retiring at 60 with full retirements – you don’t see this very often in the private sector”

    Really, Maine teachers are retiring at 60 with full retirements? I have never known any, and from my understanding, you get 2% per year so if you have 30 years in at age 60, you can retire with 60%. Teachers can count years of military service as well, but I have been in education 10 years, and I have zero expectation of a full retirement at age 60. That is just not reality.

    Yes, there is a union mentality of many (I don’t share it), and school districts have taken a hit, and many teachers have lost their jobs due to budget cuts. I suppose that doesn’t count as “sacrifice?” Teachers left in those districts typically get larger class sizes, etc, so it stands to reason that they would be working harder. Our district’s teacher’s contracts were done. The most recent one showed zero raise for this past year except your step (level of experience), and honestly, educators are not getting much for raises. I suspect this fall when my new contract takes effect, I will probably take home another $40 every 2 weeks maybe.

  • Anonymous

    “Teachers are retiring at 60 with full retirements – you don’t see this very often in the private sector”

    Really, Maine teachers are retiring at 60 with full retirements? I have never known any, and from my understanding, you get 2% per year so if you have 30 years in at age 60, you can retire with 60%. Teachers can count years of military service as well, but I have been in education 10 years, and I have zero expectation of a full retirement at age 60. That is just not reality.

    Yes, there is a union mentality of many (I don’t share it), and school districts have taken a hit, and many teachers have lost their jobs due to budget cuts. I suppose that doesn’t count as “sacrifice?” Teachers left in those districts typically get larger class sizes, etc, so it stands to reason that they would be working harder. Our district’s teacher’s contracts were done. The most recent one showed zero raise for this past year except your step (level of experience), and honestly, educators are not getting much for raises. I suspect this fall when my new contract takes effect, I will probably take home another $40 every 2 weeks maybe.

  • SwiftyMorgain

      This is nothing more than reniging on negotated contract with workers for the Tax Benefit for others including the exemption of taxes on estates now up to the 2 Million mark.
    So State workers loose a pension and a Millionaires son gains one!

    This is phony baloney politics and Mass Media deception, brought to you by the Party of NO!

    Balanced Budgetry Theft by Deception!

    Vote these Foul Beasts out of office ASAP!

  • SwiftyMorgain

      This is nothing more than reniging on negotated contract with workers for the Tax Benefit for others including the exemption of taxes on estates now up to the 2 Million mark.
    So State workers loose a pension and a Millionaires son gains one!

    This is phony baloney politics and Mass Media deception, brought to you by the Party of NO!

    Balanced Budgetry Theft by Deception!

    Vote these Foul Beasts out of office ASAP!

  • SwiftyMorgain

      This is nothing more than reniging on negotated contract with workers for the Tax Benefit for others including the exemption of taxes on estates now up to the 2 Million mark.
    So State workers loose a pension and a Millionaires son gains one!

    This is phony baloney politics and Mass Media deception, brought to you by the Party of NO!

    Balanced Budgetry Theft by Deception!

    Vote these Foul Beasts out of office ASAP!

  • SwiftyMorgain

      This is nothing more than reniging on negotated contract with workers for the Tax Benefit for others including the exemption of taxes on estates now up to the 2 Million mark.
    So State workers loose a pension and a Millionaires son gains one!

    This is phony baloney politics and Mass Media deception, brought to you by the Party of NO!

    Balanced Budgetry Theft by Deception!

    Vote these Foul Beasts out of office ASAP!

  • Anonymous

    Many do not seem to realize that state workers have their pension plan in place of Social Security.  They paid into a system that matched their funds on a promise to pay.  Then, someone else comes in and says we don’t owe them what we promised, but something less than that.  It is institutional dishonesty.  I get it that some have no appreciation for teachers and, apparently, did not learn much while in school.  Most of us are thankful to those who taught us, who plow our roads and who respond when there is an emergency.  In the abstract, people can disassociate from the community they live in.  In reality we are all depending on one another.  Those promises should have been kept.  Those who seek to gain politically by demonizing those who serve us are against what our common bonds of decency are about.  This is a case of the monied interest controlling the minds of those who do not think critically or are swayed by their baser instincts.  It is one of the saddest developments in my lifetime. 

    Let me be at least one who says:  

    Thank you public servants.  I appreciate all you do for us everyday. 

  • Anonymous

    Many do not seem to realize that state workers have their pension plan in place of Social Security.  They paid into a system that matched their funds on a promise to pay.  Then, someone else comes in and says we don’t owe them what we promised, but something less than that.  It is institutional dishonesty.  I get it that some have no appreciation for teachers and, apparently, did not learn much while in school.  Most of us are thankful to those who taught us, who plow our roads and who respond when there is an emergency.  In the abstract, people can disassociate from the community they live in.  In reality we are all depending on one another.  Those promises should have been kept.  Those who seek to gain politically by demonizing those who serve us are against what our common bonds of decency are about.  This is a case of the monied interest controlling the minds of those who do not think critically or are swayed by their baser instincts.  It is one of the saddest developments in my lifetime. 

    Let me be at least one who says:  

    Thank you public servants.  I appreciate all you do for us everyday. 

  • SwiftyMorgain

    That is a Clear Concise Picture!
    Thanks!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    That is a Clear Concise Picture!
    Thanks!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    That is a Clear Concise Picture!
    Thanks!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    That is a Clear Concise Picture!
    Thanks!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    That is a Clear Concise Picture!
    Thanks!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    That is a Clear Concise Picture!
    Thanks!

  • yowsayowsa1

     In some cases, the walls and floors do a better job!

  • yowsayowsa1

     In some cases, the walls and floors do a better job!

  • yowsayowsa1

     In some cases, the walls and floors do a better job!

  • Anonymous

    We are in exactly the same situation. Moving from FL to ME, retired, and having to pay to live here with no Maine government services.
    That said, I am currently in a struggle with the Governor and Maine Revenue, to exempt retirees from the 8.5% state income tax.
    The battle continues.

  • Anonymous

    We are in exactly the same situation. Moving from FL to ME, retired, and having to pay to live here with no Maine government services.
    That said, I am currently in a struggle with the Governor and Maine Revenue, to exempt retirees from the 8.5% state income tax.
    The battle continues.

  • SwiftyMorgain

    The ONLY control that we the people have at this point is to buy American Products at every chance. Local Mom and pop stores instead of Big Box Stores!

     http://www.americanmadeproducts.com/Default.asp?Redirected=Y

    Spread as many resources as possible, Yesterday I bought a GE air conditioner at Broadway Appliance and paid a little more for a quality built product made in maryland, and the local owner could use the buisness more than Lowes and the chinese slave camp!

    Dollars spent locally come back around!

  • Anonymous

    Not personal at all. I am just getting very frustrated with the Socialist Liberals in this country creating an entitlement society….As for books you seem to have a lot of time on your hands oh that’s right you are retired for the next 50 years collecting tax money…as for books I am currently reading Trickle up Poverty by Mike Savage

  • Anonymous

    Millionaires get to keep their tax breaks. The budget is being balanced on the backs of working people–as usual.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers participating in Social Security wouldn’t help–Social Security will be the Republican leadership’s next victim. They aim to insert investment corporations into the retirement equation, leaving elderly people at the mercy of a very poorly regulated Wall Street, which will promptly melt down all over again.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers participating in Social Security wouldn’t help–Social Security will be the Republican leadership’s next victim. They aim to insert investment corporations into the retirement equation, leaving elderly people at the mercy of a very poorly regulated Wall Street, which will promptly melt down all over again.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers participating in Social Security wouldn’t help–Social Security will be the Republican leadership’s next victim. They aim to insert investment corporations into the retirement equation, leaving elderly people at the mercy of a very poorly regulated Wall Street, which will promptly melt down all over again.

  • Anonymous

    Teachers participating in Social Security wouldn’t help–Social Security will be the Republican leadership’s next victim. They aim to insert investment corporations into the retirement equation, leaving elderly people at the mercy of a very poorly regulated Wall Street, which will promptly melt down all over again.

  • Anonymous

    You seem to be advocating for a race to the bottom–you don’t have a good retirement plan and there’s no single-payer health insurance, so you want to make sure that anyone who currently has it better than you gets what they have stripped away. I’d rather work together so all Americans can have a decent retirement and health insurance.

  • Anonymous

    Tax breaks for millionaires are cutting into state and federal revenue. The rest of us have to make up for this by paying more than our fair share of taxes and/or having our Social Security and pensions shrink. When we mention this fact, we’re accused of class warfare (there is absolutely class warfare, but it’s from the millionaires against the rest of us–and they’re winning).

  • Anonymous

    Tax breaks for millionaires are cutting into state and federal revenue. The rest of us have to make up for this by paying more than our fair share of taxes and/or having our Social Security and pensions shrink. When we mention this fact, we’re accused of class warfare (there is absolutely class warfare, but it’s from the millionaires against the rest of us–and they’re winning).

  • Anonymous

    The Republican leadership excells at the divide-and-conquer technique. If they can keep people with tiny pensions (or no pension) hating people who have a pension that is slightly larger, they’re keeping the focus OFF their tax breaks for millionaires, lack of regulations for Wall Street, and so on.

  • Anonymous

    The Republican leadership excells at the divide-and-conquer technique. If they can keep people with tiny pensions (or no pension) hating people who have a pension that is slightly larger, they’re keeping the focus OFF their tax breaks for millionaires, lack of regulations for Wall Street, and so on.

  • Anonymous

    The Republican leadership excells at the divide-and-conquer technique. If they can keep people with tiny pensions (or no pension) hating people who have a pension that is slightly larger, they’re keeping the focus OFF their tax breaks for millionaires, lack of regulations for Wall Street, and so on.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    This is all money that has been taken away over many years and many administrations. The fund paid on time and not “borrowed” from, would have been overly wealthy.

  • Anonymous

    A huge proportion of the folks who pay zero in taxes = millionaires and billionaires. They get government assistance in terms of  tax breaks and fancy loopholes.

    There are also people who pay no taxes because their incomes are too tiny to tax.

    The millionaires hope we’ll imagine it’s only the non-tax paying desperately poor people we’ll focus on. We’re supposed to hate the poor and give the ultra-wealthy a free ride.

  • Anonymous

    A huge proportion of the folks who pay zero in taxes = millionaires and billionaires. They get government assistance in terms of  tax breaks and fancy loopholes.

    There are also people who pay no taxes because their incomes are too tiny to tax.

    The millionaires hope we’ll imagine it’s only the non-tax paying desperately poor people we’ll focus on. We’re supposed to hate the poor and give the ultra-wealthy a free ride.

  • Anonymous

    A huge proportion of the folks who pay zero in taxes = millionaires and billionaires. They get government assistance in terms of  tax breaks and fancy loopholes.

    There are also people who pay no taxes because their incomes are too tiny to tax.

    The millionaires hope we’ll imagine it’s only the non-tax paying desperately poor people we’ll focus on. We’re supposed to hate the poor and give the ultra-wealthy a free ride.

  • Anonymous

    You seem to be saying it’s OK to be treated poorly and/or unfairly, as long as there are people being treated even worse…

  • melibusa

    In many states, the contractor is not liable for mistakes, the state is.  This could be more expensive than having employees you can control.

  • melibusa

    In many states, the contractor is not liable for mistakes, the state is.  This could be more expensive than having employees you can control.

  • Anonymous

    Very well said.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how they are going to pay for all us retirees that will need medicaid and subsidized  housing in the future.  The State of Maine has the oldest residents in the United States.  How is it a good thing to have retirees unable to support themselves?  And, if LePage really believes he will succeed in discontinuing taxes on retirement income; I wonder how he is going to make up for the loss of revenue.

  • Anonymous

    People who are retired do not work–by definition. That’s the concept you’re missing. One day, God willing, you too will be old. Then you will be the focus of whatever slashing of retirement income you seem to be hoping will happen to elderly people.

  • Anonymous

    People who are retired do not work–by definition. That’s the concept you’re missing. One day, God willing, you too will be old. Then you will be the focus of whatever slashing of retirement income you seem to be hoping will happen to elderly people.

  • Anonymous

    People who are retired do not work–by definition. That’s the concept you’re missing. One day, God willing, you too will be old. Then you will be the focus of whatever slashing of retirement income you seem to be hoping will happen to elderly people.

  • Anonymous

    Those on Social Security have not had a COLA in several years, despite inflation.  So, while I wish there were two chickens in every pot, I can’t sympathize too much with those who won’t be getting a COLA increase in their retirement payments.

    Social Security is good and we have to fight to protect it, but without the COLA we, like the state retirees, lose buying power every year.  Thanks, Goldman-Sachs and the other controllers of the world economy.

    This is deliberate to drive down everyone’s wages permanently, and get rid of unions. 

    If you don’t like unions, then start working a 6-day, 70 hour week, get paid $5 a day, no health care at work whatsoever, and give up all the benefits won through struggle by working people that now accrue to most workers now.

    So we will make do and still be one of the (we’re not the top anymore) richest countries in the world.   

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Mike Savage, actually Michael Weiner.  He wrote his doctoral dissertation on Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    Mike Savage, actually Michael Weiner.  He wrote his doctoral dissertation on Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji.  

  • Anonymous

    Democrat problem? How about all the wild spending under g bush inc. ? Two illegal wars. He was left with a surplus and bankrupted the nation. Short term memory loss?

  • Anonymous

    Democrat problem? How about all the wild spending under g bush inc. ? Two illegal wars. He was left with a surplus and bankrupted the nation. Short term memory loss?

  • Anonymous

    All the people across America are screaming and yelling about anyone touching their social security.  I think all those who think what happened to the state retirees is a good thing should be standing up offering the same for the social security recipient.  It is no different.

  • Anonymous

    All the people across America are screaming and yelling about anyone touching their social security.  I think all those who think what happened to the state retirees is a good thing should be standing up offering the same for the social security recipient.  It is no different.

  • Anonymous

    Audit the Pentagon. Over 10 trillion spent since 1990 and they can’t pass an audit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Arthur.Langley Arthur Langley

    I dislike the state workers and the teachers feeling the opinions expressed and the changes happening and proposed are attacks on them and the jobs they do. It is Legislatures, the Governors, and the union leaders over the last 40 years who have allowed the pensions for these workers to be robbed and long left unfunded. A generation and half of DEMs in the State Senate and in the State House robbed the rank and file members of these unions that the DEMs always promised and still promise to aid and support. The state workers and State Police I have dealt with do an excellent job and make every effort possible to please and assist. As for teachers, I cannot speak from experience as I never was schooled nor had children in school in Maine. However, I do know that the U.S. is ranked first in spending per student and spends considerably more than the second ranked country amongst the 30 top ranked nations in the world. The return on this world class investment? The results of the education our children get in the U.S. have left them in the both third of the 30 top nations. In Maine we have spent per student in the top third of all U.S. states and our students’ results have left them in the bottom third of of our 50 states. We spend in Maine in the top third amongst the highest spenders per student in the world and our children’s education leaves them in the bottom third of the bottom third in the world. Would you pay top dollar per ticket to see a baseball team play that has been ranked in the bottom third of the bottom third of  baseball teams?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Arthur.Langley Arthur Langley

    I dislike the state workers and the teachers feeling the opinions expressed and the changes happening and proposed are attacks on them and the jobs they do. It is Legislatures, the Governors, and the union leaders over the last 40 years who have allowed the pensions for these workers to be robbed and long left unfunded. A generation and half of DEMs in the State Senate and in the State House robbed the rank and file members of these unions that the DEMs always promised and still promise to aid and support. The state workers and State Police I have dealt with do an excellent job and make every effort possible to please and assist. As for teachers, I cannot speak from experience as I never was schooled nor had children in school in Maine. However, I do know that the U.S. is ranked first in spending per student and spends considerably more than the second ranked country amongst the 30 top ranked nations in the world. The return on this world class investment? The results of the education our children get in the U.S. have left them in the both third of the 30 top nations. In Maine we have spent per student in the top third of all U.S. states and our students’ results have left them in the bottom third of of our 50 states. We spend in Maine in the top third amongst the highest spenders per student in the world and our children’s education leaves them in the bottom third of the bottom third in the world. Would you pay top dollar per ticket to see a baseball team play that has been ranked in the bottom third of the bottom third of  baseball teams?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Arthur.Langley Arthur Langley

    I dislike the state workers and the teachers feeling the opinions expressed and the changes happening and proposed are attacks on them and the jobs they do. It is Legislatures, the Governors, and the union leaders over the last 40 years who have allowed the pensions for these workers to be robbed and long left unfunded. A generation and half of DEMs in the State Senate and in the State House robbed the rank and file members of these unions that the DEMs always promised and still promise to aid and support. The state workers and State Police I have dealt with do an excellent job and make every effort possible to please and assist. As for teachers, I cannot speak from experience as I never was schooled nor had children in school in Maine. However, I do know that the U.S. is ranked first in spending per student and spends considerably more than the second ranked country amongst the 30 top ranked nations in the world. The return on this world class investment? The results of the education our children get in the U.S. have left them in the both third of the 30 top nations. In Maine we have spent per student in the top third of all U.S. states and our students’ results have left them in the bottom third of of our 50 states. We spend in Maine in the top third amongst the highest spenders per student in the world and our children’s education leaves them in the bottom third of the bottom third in the world. Would you pay top dollar per ticket to see a baseball team play that has been ranked in the bottom third of the bottom third of  baseball teams?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Arthur.Langley Arthur Langley

    I dislike the state workers and the teachers feeling the opinions expressed and the changes happening and proposed are attacks on them and the jobs they do. It is Legislatures, the Governors, and the union leaders over the last 40 years who have allowed the pensions for these workers to be robbed and long left unfunded. A generation and half of DEMs in the State Senate and in the State House robbed the rank and file members of these unions that the DEMs always promised and still promise to aid and support. The state workers and State Police I have dealt with do an excellent job and make every effort possible to please and assist. As for teachers, I cannot speak from experience as I never was schooled nor had children in school in Maine. However, I do know that the U.S. is ranked first in spending per student and spends considerably more than the second ranked country amongst the 30 top ranked nations in the world. The return on this world class investment? The results of the education our children get in the U.S. have left them in the both third of the 30 top nations. In Maine we have spent per student in the top third of all U.S. states and our students’ results have left them in the bottom third of of our 50 states. We spend in Maine in the top third amongst the highest spenders per student in the world and our children’s education leaves them in the bottom third of the bottom third in the world. Would you pay top dollar per ticket to see a baseball team play that has been ranked in the bottom third of the bottom third of  baseball teams?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it is a good thing that the republican party is attacking workers, unions and govt. employees. And that their candidates for president are people like sarah palin and michelle bachman. WE do not need the republican party, we need a progressive party to offset the corporate dems.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it is a good thing that the republican party is attacking workers, unions and govt. employees. And that their candidates for president are people like sarah palin and michelle bachman. WE do not need the republican party, we need a progressive party to offset the corporate dems.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it is a good thing that the republican party is attacking workers, unions and govt. employees. And that their candidates for president are people like sarah palin and michelle bachman. WE do not need the republican party, we need a progressive party to offset the corporate dems.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it is a good thing that the republican party is attacking workers, unions and govt. employees. And that their candidates for president are people like sarah palin and michelle bachman. WE do not need the republican party, we need a progressive party to offset the corporate dems.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it is a good thing that the republican party is attacking workers, unions and govt. employees. And that their candidates for president are people like sarah palin and michelle bachman. WE do not need the republican party, we need a progressive party to offset the corporate dems.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The government paid me for being a soldier with tax money.  I did pay income taxes as a soldier and I also paid for insurance, as I recall.  But that money came from my earnings which came from taxes.  Then I used a part of my GI Bill for my graduate degree.  I don’t recall paying into any fund for future use of the GI Bill but that was in the Army of nearly 40 years ago.   I still think the taxpayer paid for that part of my education.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The government paid me for being a soldier with tax money.  I did pay income taxes as a soldier and I also paid for insurance, as I recall.  But that money came from my earnings which came from taxes.  Then I used a part of my GI Bill for my graduate degree.  I don’t recall paying into any fund for future use of the GI Bill but that was in the Army of nearly 40 years ago.   I still think the taxpayer paid for that part of my education.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The government paid me for being a soldier with tax money.  I did pay income taxes as a soldier and I also paid for insurance, as I recall.  But that money came from my earnings which came from taxes.  Then I used a part of my GI Bill for my graduate degree.  I don’t recall paying into any fund for future use of the GI Bill but that was in the Army of nearly 40 years ago.   I still think the taxpayer paid for that part of my education.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The government paid me for being a soldier with tax money.  I did pay income taxes as a soldier and I also paid for insurance, as I recall.  But that money came from my earnings which came from taxes.  Then I used a part of my GI Bill for my graduate degree.  I don’t recall paying into any fund for future use of the GI Bill but that was in the Army of nearly 40 years ago.   I still think the taxpayer paid for that part of my education.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    The government paid me for being a soldier with tax money.  I did pay income taxes as a soldier and I also paid for insurance, as I recall.  But that money came from my earnings which came from taxes.  Then I used a part of my GI Bill for my graduate degree.  I don’t recall paying into any fund for future use of the GI Bill but that was in the Army of nearly 40 years ago.   I still think the taxpayer paid for that part of my education.  

  • Anonymous

    Goldman Sacks gets trillions in bail out funds from tax payers because they like to gamble.

    The Pentagon likes to wage wars of aggression and WE pay for it.

    Not much left for the American people who foot the bill. 

  • Anonymous

    Goldman Sacks gets trillions in bail out funds from tax payers because they like to gamble.

    The Pentagon likes to wage wars of aggression and WE pay for it.

    Not much left for the American people who foot the bill. 

  • Anonymous

    Goldman Sacks gets trillions in bail out funds from tax payers because they like to gamble.

    The Pentagon likes to wage wars of aggression and WE pay for it.

    Not much left for the American people who foot the bill. 

  • Anonymous

    ME is in the top ten best schools in the US. Did you have problems in school?

  • Anonymous

    ME is in the top ten best schools in the US. Did you have problems in school?

  • Anonymous

    The new political agenda, the govt. doesn’t have to honor contracts or pay it’s debts. Maybe it isn’t new though , come to think of it.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe those who are complaining should have stayed in school. …because they complain about schools , workers and govt. employees. 

  • Anonymous

    The comments took a definite turn to the nasty after lepage was elected. Ever heard of a paid troll? They make comments to disrupt and disgust. Then the gang controls the dialogue and the agenda.

  • Anonymous

    The comments took a definite turn to the nasty after lepage was elected. Ever heard of a paid troll? They make comments to disrupt and disgust. Then the gang controls the dialogue and the agenda.

  • Anonymous

    PEOPLE are told to prepare for their retirement. They have careers with a guaranteed pension plan. HOW were they to know be it NH – Maine or NJ etc, that the Governors/ legislators instead of contributing state’s part, didn’t bother. Spent it on taking care of their buddies etc. And now that its retirement time people are told, KISS that pension goodbye. GUESS whose pensions won’t suffer in this nation wide meltdown / Governors PENSIONS – the President/ Congress/Senate/ Defense.

    They have SS – and 2 other plans / YEARLY cost of living increases not only in THEIR pay but in their PENSIONS.  Life time health coverage ( no problem with pre-existing conditions, no waiting period, full dental, vision, medicine; and WE pay 72$ of THEIR premiums —NO WONDER THE LOT OF THEM COULD CARE LESS ( with a couple dozen plans to choose from).

    CHECK out GREECE and check out IMF Structural Agreement Program – this is what is HAPPENING/ this Debt ceiling / tax (R v D) is political theater, a LIE. This is the IMF austerity program – LINE FOR LINE of what is (not shown on media) happening in UK – Italy – Ireland – Greece/    Washington – the media / ALL LYING. They’re counting on citizens being STUPID.

  • Anonymous

    It is a small minority who say the same things over and over. I do it too , so I include myself. like…

    May, 1933, Hitler abolished all unions. Wonder how he got along with education?

    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts 

    Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

    From the 14 points of fascism.

  • Anonymous

    It is a small minority who say the same things over and over. I do it too , so I include myself. like…

    May, 1933, Hitler abolished all unions. Wonder how he got along with education?

    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts 

    Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

    From the 14 points of fascism.

  • Anonymous

    It is a small minority who say the same things over and over. I do it too , so I include myself. like…

    May, 1933, Hitler abolished all unions. Wonder how he got along with education?

    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts 

    Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

    From the 14 points of fascism.

  • Anonymous

    It is a small minority who say the same things over and over. I do it too , so I include myself. like…

    May, 1933, Hitler abolished all unions. Wonder how he got along with education?

    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts 

    Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

    From the 14 points of fascism.

  • Anonymous

    It is a small minority who say the same things over and over. I do it too , so I include myself. like…

    May, 1933, Hitler abolished all unions. Wonder how he got along with education?

    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts 

    Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

    From the 14 points of fascism.

  • Anonymous

    “It is only fair  to expect public sector employees to pay their fair share for benefits that they receive.”
    Or have Universal Healthcare like the rest of the civilized world. Then maybe we could get better health care. Now, hospitals are some of the most dangerous places to be in America.

  • Anonymous

    I applaud your statements. Only way to survive…and thrive.

  • listenuppeople

    When George W Bush took office he got rid of the estate tax on the federal level.  That is when Joh Baldacci inacted a 75% estate tax on anything above 3 million dollars.. He made a statement to the media that the people did not earn it why should they get it… Funny how money is stolen by people in power then given to their friends.

  • listenuppeople

    When George W Bush took office he got rid of the estate tax on the federal level.  That is when Joh Baldacci inacted a 75% estate tax on anything above 3 million dollars.. He made a statement to the media that the people did not earn it why should they get it… Funny how money is stolen by people in power then given to their friends.

  • listenuppeople

    When George W Bush took office he got rid of the estate tax on the federal level.  That is when Joh Baldacci inacted a 75% estate tax on anything above 3 million dollars.. He made a statement to the media that the people did not earn it why should they get it… Funny how money is stolen by people in power then given to their friends.

  • listenuppeople

    When George W Bush took office he got rid of the estate tax on the federal level.  That is when Joh Baldacci inacted a 75% estate tax on anything above 3 million dollars.. He made a statement to the media that the people did not earn it why should they get it… Funny how money is stolen by people in power then given to their friends.

  • listenuppeople

    When George W Bush took office he got rid of the estate tax on the federal level.  That is when Joh Baldacci inacted a 75% estate tax on anything above 3 million dollars.. He made a statement to the media that the people did not earn it why should they get it… Funny how money is stolen by people in power then given to their friends.

  • listenuppeople

    When George W Bush took office he got rid of the estate tax on the federal level.  That is when Joh Baldacci inacted a 75% estate tax on anything above 3 million dollars.. He made a statement to the media that the people did not earn it why should they get it… Funny how money is stolen by people in power then given to their friends.

  • Anonymous

    Great point, thanks for the info.

  • Anonymous

    What are you trying out for Are you smarter than a 5th grader… What the h_ll does this have to with anything…good luck in your entitlement laden world…I will continue to fight the good fight, volunteer for the Tea Party and try to get the word out and stop the madness…enjoy your paid for retirement…I will make sure I keep working to pay for it no worries…

  • Anonymous

    Every baby boomer and their parents have heard all the boomers life how much the government hates them, no surprise cancer is so high, can’t kill them fast enough, that is of course after they have robbed them of their taxes and S.S.I.. And more yet they made it clear back in the 40′s the government want lower population, kind of funny in a not ha-ha way when they rewarded people for having kids, instead of rewarding people for not having kids.
    There is and was no reason why this country is in debt  can’t make the promises to the tax payers they made other than all political parties have certainly done what they could to destroy this world.

  • Anonymous

    What meaningless verbiage!  Those purported union”hacks” are the people teaching out children — at salaries much less than most of the nation, by the way.   Your lack of respect for people working in the public sector smacks of jealousy.   In any event, I’m sure our “great” governor will not suffer in his retirement, public servant that he is.

  • Anonymous

    typo – “our” children.

  • Anonymous

    typo – “our” children.

  • Anonymous

    typo – “our” children.

  • Anonymous

    typo – “our” children.

  • Anonymous

    typo – “our” children.

  • Anonymous

    Do you agree that there has been no increase in your costs of living?  No inflation in food or energy?

  • Anonymous

    Do you agree that there has been no increase in your costs of living?  No inflation in food or energy?

  • Anonymous

    Do you agree that there has been no increase in your costs of living?  No inflation in food or energy?

  • Anonymous

    Do you agree that there has been no increase in your costs of living?  No inflation in food or energy?

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • Anonymous

    “AAA is the rightest rating”?My English teacher is rolling over in her grave-and she’s not dead yet!

  • 525_44

    I wonder how well some of those naysayers would do if they had to spend a month in a classroom doing a teacher’s job.
    I imagine many would not fare well at all. I am tired of the attack the teaching profession has come under.
    A person who decides to teach isn’t choosing the easiest job as some seem to think.

  • 525_44

    That is not the way it is. I think you need to do more homework and get it right.

  • 525_44

    That is not the way it is. I think you need to do more homework and get it right.

  • Anonymous

    Aha!  The truth be known.  Another tea party hater badmouthing and resenting others.  Private school, you say?  Who will be working to pay for your retirement?  Bad things do happen even to tea partiers.  You may not be so well off some day.  Don’t come asking for help here.

  • Anonymous

    Aha!  The truth be known.  Another tea party hater badmouthing and resenting others.  Private school, you say?  Who will be working to pay for your retirement?  Bad things do happen even to tea partiers.  You may not be so well off some day.  Don’t come asking for help here.

  • 525_44

    They need to do their homework.

  • 525_44

    They need to do their homework.

  • 525_44

    They need to do their homework.

  • 525_44

    They need to do their homework.

  • Anonymous

    In most other countries,teachers are highly valued in the community-and God help the kid who back talks one!Teachers here are supposed to be psychologists,nutritionists,look out for this or that problem,have to keep up with unending lawsuits and still keep up with the changes in their field(s) and education in general.And how many of them spend untold,unpaid extra hours.How many donate time to their communities,coach kids and pay for supplies out of their own pockets?Yet Paulie and Boehner’s millionaire and billionaire friends would take even a few extra pennies from them in their old age.For all who teach,thank you always.

  • Anonymous

    In most other countries,teachers are highly valued in the community-and God help the kid who back talks one!Teachers here are supposed to be psychologists,nutritionists,look out for this or that problem,have to keep up with unending lawsuits and still keep up with the changes in their field(s) and education in general.And how many of them spend untold,unpaid extra hours.How many donate time to their communities,coach kids and pay for supplies out of their own pockets?Yet Paulie and Boehner’s millionaire and billionaire friends would take even a few extra pennies from them in their old age.For all who teach,thank you always.

  • Anonymous

    In most other countries,teachers are highly valued in the community-and God help the kid who back talks one!Teachers here are supposed to be psychologists,nutritionists,look out for this or that problem,have to keep up with unending lawsuits and still keep up with the changes in their field(s) and education in general.And how many of them spend untold,unpaid extra hours.How many donate time to their communities,coach kids and pay for supplies out of their own pockets?Yet Paulie and Boehner’s millionaire and billionaire friends would take even a few extra pennies from them in their old age.For all who teach,thank you always.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • 525_44

    Absolutely, to do it’s job it needs to be spread around; kinda like manure it works better spread on the field than sitting in a pile.

  • Anonymous

    maine came in 50th in 2009 and 51st in 2010 in mean SAT scores……….. best schools maybe……. best education????????????????

  • Anonymous

    maine came in 50th in 2009 and 51st in 2010 in mean SAT scores……….. best schools maybe……. best education????????????????

  • Anonymous

    maine came in 50th in 2009 and 51st in 2010 in mean SAT scores……….. best schools maybe……. best education????????????????

  • Anonymous

    maine came in 50th in 2009 and 51st in 2010 in mean SAT scores……….. best schools maybe……. best education????????????????

  • Anonymous

    maine came in 50th in 2009 and 51st in 2010 in mean SAT scores……….. best schools maybe……. best education????????????????

  • Anonymous

    maine came in 50th in 2009 and 51st in 2010 in mean SAT scores……….. best schools maybe……. best education????????????????

  • Anonymous

    Your way of shopping is the only way to bring back jobs to the US.

  • Anonymous

    Your way of shopping is the only way to bring back jobs to the US.

  • Anonymous

    Your way of shopping is the only way to bring back jobs to the US.

  • Anonymous

    The private schools and prisons don’t have such a good track record either. Why do republicans hate govt.? Why are their leaders in govt.? Self hatred, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    The private schools and prisons don’t have such a good track record either. Why do republicans hate govt.? Why are their leaders in govt.? Self hatred, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    The private schools and prisons don’t have such a good track record either. Why do republicans hate govt.? Why are their leaders in govt.? Self hatred, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    Or nurses at Eastern Maine Medical. One nurse who was ready to retire in August had to drop out of the union so she wouldn’t be fired. Does not make for a happy competent work force. LePage needs to be recalled. 

  • Anonymous

    Or nurses at Eastern Maine Medical. One nurse who was ready to retire in August had to drop out of the union so she wouldn’t be fired. Does not make for a happy competent work force. LePage needs to be recalled. 

  • Anonymous

    Or nurses at Eastern Maine Medical. One nurse who was ready to retire in August had to drop out of the union so she wouldn’t be fired. Does not make for a happy competent work force. LePage needs to be recalled. 

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just going to hate no matter what is going on.

  • Anonymous

    Like Exxon , yet they get millions in subsidies. No wonder the corporate media has to keep US distracted. 

  • Anonymous

    Actually, President Obama is now attacking social security, not Republicans. Might want to make sure to get your villains straight.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the link.Another thing that can be done is look into what companies treat ALL of their workers well,which ones donate to the Tea Party(AT&T and Verizon both did for starters)and spend accordingly.I try as much as I can to buy from a socially responsible US company.It’s worth the extra few minutes.

  • Anonymous

    The 2008 crash also depleted pensions. Reckon that is why we are supposed to hate govt. workers now?

  • Anonymous

    Look up the Chicago privatization of parking meters for 75 years-done by a subsidiary of (surprise)Goldman.They got screwed and will be screwed until after 2080!

  • Anonymous

    Bernie Sanders stated from the Senate floor that the only time NAFTA was mentioned in the Senate was reelection time. The rest of the time, you never hear about it. Same goes for mainstream media.

  • Anonymous

    Lots of people made fun of Al Gore for saying he would put SS in a lock box.

  • Anonymous

    How do you get all from gov. lepage’s policies? His cronies do fine. The conservatives who voted for him in middle and upper state ME are going to be very surprised when their insurance premiums go sky high and they have to drive 6 miles to see the doctor.

  • Anonymous

    How do you get all from gov. lepage’s policies? His cronies do fine. The conservatives who voted for him in middle and upper state ME are going to be very surprised when their insurance premiums go sky high and they have to drive 6 miles to see the doctor.

  • Anonymous

    How do you get all from gov. lepage’s policies? His cronies do fine. The conservatives who voted for him in middle and upper state ME are going to be very surprised when their insurance premiums go sky high and they have to drive 6 miles to see the doctor.

  • Anonymous

    How do you get all from gov. lepage’s policies? His cronies do fine. The conservatives who voted for him in middle and upper state ME are going to be very surprised when their insurance premiums go sky high and they have to drive 6 miles to see the doctor.

  • Anonymous

    How do you get all from gov. lepage’s policies? His cronies do fine. The conservatives who voted for him in middle and upper state ME are going to be very surprised when their insurance premiums go sky high and they have to drive 6 miles to see the doctor.

  • 525_44

    After reading your posts and getting to this one about private school it explains most everything you are complaining about.
    Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that LePage also wanted to slash Medicaid to the bone and then some.Didn’t happen but I’m sure he’ll try again.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that LePage also wanted to slash Medicaid to the bone and then some.Didn’t happen but I’m sure he’ll try again.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that LePage also wanted to slash Medicaid to the bone and then some.Didn’t happen but I’m sure he’ll try again.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that LePage also wanted to slash Medicaid to the bone and then some.Didn’t happen but I’m sure he’ll try again.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that LePage also wanted to slash Medicaid to the bone and then some.Didn’t happen but I’m sure he’ll try again.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget that LePage also wanted to slash Medicaid to the bone and then some.Didn’t happen but I’m sure he’ll try again.

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be 20 years if Ryan gets his way.He’s already set for life so what does he care?

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be 20 years if Ryan gets his way.He’s already set for life so what does he care?

  • 525_44

    And teachers don’t earn their money? Is that what you are saying? Spend some time doing their job, they work long hours and they EARN the money they make.
    Such nonsense.

    They have earned their money and have a right to it…

  • 525_44

    And teachers don’t earn their money? Is that what you are saying? Spend some time doing their job, they work long hours and they EARN the money they make.
    Such nonsense.

    They have earned their money and have a right to it…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    This is what it has to do with it.  You have said that I do not understand what our nation is built on and that I should read the Constitution.  You apparently are reading for enlightenment, I presume, a book by a man whose scholarly interests were nutritional ethnomedicine in Fiji, not history, not economics, not political science, not philosophy, but nutritional ethnomedicine and in Fiji.  Don’t you think that is a little ironic?  (Of course if I could roll up a net worth of $18 million dollars by rabble-rousing, I might be tempted.)  And by the way, as I already stated, life expectancy tables give me about 21 more years, not 50.  Your quote from Thomas Jefferson came from his first inaugural address and it’s a doozy, all 2000 words.  He put in everything he could think of.  Right after the frugal government part is “which will restrain men from injuring one another.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    This is what it has to do with it.  You have said that I do not understand what our nation is built on and that I should read the Constitution.  You apparently are reading for enlightenment, I presume, a book by a man whose scholarly interests were nutritional ethnomedicine in Fiji, not history, not economics, not political science, not philosophy, but nutritional ethnomedicine and in Fiji.  Don’t you think that is a little ironic?  (Of course if I could roll up a net worth of $18 million dollars by rabble-rousing, I might be tempted.)  And by the way, as I already stated, life expectancy tables give me about 21 more years, not 50.  Your quote from Thomas Jefferson came from his first inaugural address and it’s a doozy, all 2000 words.  He put in everything he could think of.  Right after the frugal government part is “which will restrain men from injuring one another.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    This is what it has to do with it.  You have said that I do not understand what our nation is built on and that I should read the Constitution.  You apparently are reading for enlightenment, I presume, a book by a man whose scholarly interests were nutritional ethnomedicine in Fiji, not history, not economics, not political science, not philosophy, but nutritional ethnomedicine and in Fiji.  Don’t you think that is a little ironic?  (Of course if I could roll up a net worth of $18 million dollars by rabble-rousing, I might be tempted.)  And by the way, as I already stated, life expectancy tables give me about 21 more years, not 50.  Your quote from Thomas Jefferson came from his first inaugural address and it’s a doozy, all 2000 words.  He put in everything he could think of.  Right after the frugal government part is “which will restrain men from injuring one another.”

  • Anonymous

    Yes,Maine certainly is fortunate to have a great leader.That would be the President.I know you didn’t mean the governor.

  • Anonymous

    Yes,Maine certainly is fortunate to have a great leader.That would be the President.I know you didn’t mean the governor.

  • Anonymous

    Yes,Maine certainly is fortunate to have a great leader.That would be the President.I know you didn’t mean the governor.

  • Anonymous

    Yes,Maine certainly is fortunate to have a great leader.That would be the President.I know you didn’t mean the governor.

  • Anonymous

    Yes,Maine certainly is fortunate to have a great leader.That would be the President.I know you didn’t mean the governor.

  • Anonymous

    Yes,Maine certainly is fortunate to have a great leader.That would be the President.I know you didn’t mean the governor.

  • Anonymous

    Your last paragraph is perfect.Those with the money want an uneducated,unquestioning workforce.
    “What magazines or newspapers do you read?”
    “Oh,all of them,Katie,y’know,all of them.”

  • Anonymous

    I have come to the point that I have decided to use the tactics that the left employs in this sort of discussion;  I think all this “tax the rich” talk is simply the anti-white, anti-christian, anti-American racist beliefs of the leftists revealing itself. They are nothing but “haters” who despise anyone who still actually has a job and actually pays their taxes. These are the same people who also play the race card on a daily basis against any opponent, when in fact they are the racists. Now they have just changed to focusing on hating the rich. Thats what the left is all about. HATE. They were the party that supported slavery in the 1800′s, and they still do today. Now they just call it welfare.

  • dadoje

    There has been an increase in the cost of living but no cost of living increase in retirees or social security checks.

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t help noticing that unless he chose to spell his nickname that way,he can’t spell “savvy”

  • http://www.facebook.com/roger.merchant Roger Merchant

    I beg to differ with your reality. The money that I and my employers have contributed to SS over my past 50 years of work history is no ponzi scheme, and SS sure as heck is not some “entitlement program” as the spin meisters would like to have us believe… Those lifelong contributions  to SS will provide me in return a very modest, conservative taxable income which hopefully will keep me out of the poor house, or having to rely on my children, or God forbid you,  for financial support to the end of my life… Ponzi schemes and entitlement spin belong in Madoffville and Wall Street, which last I knew have not been held accountable for their contributing roles to the financial meltdown which has everyone including you, yammering on about who to blame next… Social Security is not a ponzi scheme, its an old age – retirement support program by mutual agreement. I and a lot of other people on this post have paid into SS working in Maine and elsewhere as a part of our retirement plans. My mother lived to 93 on $600 per month of SS… You got a problem with that? What is it? How much do you live on per month? You’d likely choose to deny her SS. Where would that leave her? The poor house!    

  • Anonymous

    My wife’s best friend is a public school teacher and she sends her children to private school…luckily her husband teaches at Private school and they can afford it…she tells me all the time it would be a cold day in H_ll before she sent her children to public school where the agenda is merely to teach the children the progressive movement and how we are somehow dependent upon government to take care of us….The DOE and teachers union are socialist bordering communist organizations plain and simple….teachers work hard that is almost comical…I would love to go home at 4 and have summers off..instead I get on a plane every week and spend 60 hours a week teaching companies how to be more efficient something I could teach the school districts around the country…oh wait they have no money because the teachers want ridiculous benefits…sorry my bad

  • Anonymous

    My wife’s best friend is a public school teacher and she sends her children to private school…luckily her husband teaches at Private school and they can afford it…she tells me all the time it would be a cold day in H_ll before she sent her children to public school where the agenda is merely to teach the children the progressive movement and how we are somehow dependent upon government to take care of us….The DOE and teachers union are socialist bordering communist organizations plain and simple….teachers work hard that is almost comical…I would love to go home at 4 and have summers off..instead I get on a plane every week and spend 60 hours a week teaching companies how to be more efficient something I could teach the school districts around the country…oh wait they have no money because the teachers want ridiculous benefits…sorry my bad

  • Anonymous

    My wife’s best friend is a public school teacher and she sends her children to private school…luckily her husband teaches at Private school and they can afford it…she tells me all the time it would be a cold day in H_ll before she sent her children to public school where the agenda is merely to teach the children the progressive movement and how we are somehow dependent upon government to take care of us….The DOE and teachers union are socialist bordering communist organizations plain and simple….teachers work hard that is almost comical…I would love to go home at 4 and have summers off..instead I get on a plane every week and spend 60 hours a week teaching companies how to be more efficient something I could teach the school districts around the country…oh wait they have no money because the teachers want ridiculous benefits…sorry my bad

  • Anonymous

    My wife’s best friend is a public school teacher and she sends her children to private school…luckily her husband teaches at Private school and they can afford it…she tells me all the time it would be a cold day in H_ll before she sent her children to public school where the agenda is merely to teach the children the progressive movement and how we are somehow dependent upon government to take care of us….The DOE and teachers union are socialist bordering communist organizations plain and simple….teachers work hard that is almost comical…I would love to go home at 4 and have summers off..instead I get on a plane every week and spend 60 hours a week teaching companies how to be more efficient something I could teach the school districts around the country…oh wait they have no money because the teachers want ridiculous benefits…sorry my bad

  • Anonymous

    Here’s an inflation calculator    http://www.shadowstats.com/inflation_calculator  using the Bureau of Labor Statistics data.   The $1 earned in 1991 would have to be $1.67 today to keep up with inflation.  Isn’t that a 67% reduction in the value of a dollar over 20 years?   Or in the value of your retirement without a Cost of Living Adjustment?  Of course, the government, over the years, has changed the way CPI is calculated precisely to  reduce COLAs for Social Security.  The federal government is considering changing it again, again, precisely, to reduce Social Security payouts.  You won’t be alone. 

  • Anonymous

    Here’s an inflation calculator    http://www.shadowstats.com/inflation_calculator  using the Bureau of Labor Statistics data.   The $1 earned in 1991 would have to be $1.67 today to keep up with inflation.  Isn’t that a 67% reduction in the value of a dollar over 20 years?   Or in the value of your retirement without a Cost of Living Adjustment?  Of course, the government, over the years, has changed the way CPI is calculated precisely to  reduce COLAs for Social Security.  The federal government is considering changing it again, again, precisely, to reduce Social Security payouts.  You won’t be alone. 

  • Anonymous

    You bring up an overlooked point about veteran’s disability and healthcare.TRICARE premiums haven’t changed since 1995.Anyone else out there still paying the same for insurance as they were 16 years ago?We can’t even begin to guess what the needs will be  of the  recent vets of the last ten years.
    Now I am all for giving vets who need help whatever they need.BUT let me share two examples.My uncle served 12 years,never in combat,then worked in defense in the private sector,then did private security.He gets FOUR checks(3 pensions and SS) and his wife gets two.No problems there.
    The other is a person who lives in my former hometown.He served in the early 70′s,then became a drug dealer and finally got caught.He is on disability even though there is nothing wrong with him.How do I know this?He told me and 5 other people one night when he was drunk.You think the VA did anything?Not a bit.And he’s got his hand out for EVERYTHING you can get.

  • Anonymous

    bite me

  • Anonymous

    I’m tired of your uninformed name-calling.  I’ll remember not to read your comments in the future.

  • Anonymous

    I’m tired of your uninformed name-calling.  I’ll remember not to read your comments in the future.

  • Anonymous

    I’m tired of your uninformed name-calling.  I’ll remember not to read your comments in the future.

  • Anonymous

    I’m tired of your uninformed name-calling.  I’ll remember not to read your comments in the future.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah those evil rich millionaires and billionaires that only make $250k a year but are still “millionaires” to a democrat. Nevermind the fact that 47% of the lower income bracket pay no taxes and the “rich” are footing the whole bill. Just continue with the class-warfare racism and talk about taxing the rich. In the meantime those same “rich” are moving to States without taxes and we are left with the layabouts remaining here in Maine. And the result of your class-warfare is what we have now in Maine. Congrats, you should be so proud. Maybe if we keep following the liberal model we can be as broke as California or New York. Maybe even as bad as Greece. I do find it funny how in the face of your irrational leftist beliefs every conserative-run State right now is in the black, and the liberal-run States are all BROKE. Think about that. Its not a coincidence. And I dont think any of your Nancy Pelosi talking-points are going to change any of that.

  • Anonymous

    Illegal wars? He got congress to approve both. That’s more than we can say about Obama and his war in Libya.

  • Anonymous

    Those 61% losers make me laugh. Maybe they should consider that 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006.

  • Anonymous

    Those 61% losers make me laugh. Maybe they should consider that 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006.

  • Anonymous

    Those 61% losers make me laugh. Maybe they should consider that 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006.

  • Anonymous

    Those 61% losers make me laugh. Maybe they should consider that 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006.

  • Anonymous

    Those 61% losers make me laugh. Maybe they should consider that 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006.

  • Anonymous

    Those 61% losers make me laugh. Maybe they should consider that 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006.

  • Anonymous

    Those 61% losers make me laugh. Maybe they should consider that 62% voted against Baldacci in 2006.

  • Anonymous

    I echo your sentiments. I got out last year and I can tell you that many “disabled” vets are robbing our system blind. I could have easily been one of them and it is tempting to claim something to get a check every month for the rest of your life.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not spin, it’s the truth. File a FOIA, ask for the documents showing money being taken out of the fund. They’re not there. It was not put in, true, but it was not “robbed.” And that falls on Democrat, Republicans and Independent Governors.

  • Anonymous

    We’re not supposed to hate public workers. We’re supposed to make sure their future pension costs don’t bankrupt the state, deny our children an education, let our roads turn to dirt or deny our most needy life saving services. Would you rather we wait until 2020 and have a fight when we truly have to choose one or the other, or make sure we can handle all our responsibilities when that time comes?

  • Anonymous

    We’re not supposed to hate public workers. We’re supposed to make sure their future pension costs don’t bankrupt the state, deny our children an education, let our roads turn to dirt or deny our most needy life saving services. Would you rather we wait until 2020 and have a fight when we truly have to choose one or the other, or make sure we can handle all our responsibilities when that time comes?

  • Anonymous

    We’re not supposed to hate public workers. We’re supposed to make sure their future pension costs don’t bankrupt the state, deny our children an education, let our roads turn to dirt or deny our most needy life saving services. Would you rather we wait until 2020 and have a fight when we truly have to choose one or the other, or make sure we can handle all our responsibilities when that time comes?

  • Anonymous

    He’s willing to make cuts to reach a compromise if that’s what it takes. Quite different than attacking it. Too bad the Republicans are taking such a “my-way-or-the-highway” approach to solving problems. That never seems to work in real life.

  • Anonymous

    He’s willing to make cuts to reach a compromise if that’s what it takes. Quite different than attacking it. Too bad the Republicans are taking such a “my-way-or-the-highway” approach to solving problems. That never seems to work in real life.

  • Anonymous

    He’s willing to make cuts to reach a compromise if that’s what it takes. Quite different than attacking it. Too bad the Republicans are taking such a “my-way-or-the-highway” approach to solving problems. That never seems to work in real life.

  • Anonymous

    He’s willing to make cuts to reach a compromise if that’s what it takes. Quite different than attacking it. Too bad the Republicans are taking such a “my-way-or-the-highway” approach to solving problems. That never seems to work in real life.

  • Anonymous

    He’s willing to make cuts to reach a compromise if that’s what it takes. Quite different than attacking it. Too bad the Republicans are taking such a “my-way-or-the-highway” approach to solving problems. That never seems to work in real life.

  • Anonymous

    He’s willing to make cuts to reach a compromise if that’s what it takes. Quite different than attacking it. Too bad the Republicans are taking such a “my-way-or-the-highway” approach to solving problems. That never seems to work in real life.

  • Anonymous

    Check out the rates of students taking the test.  We test all of our students not just college bound students so our test scores are going to be lower, however MaryBelle is refering to a metric measures all indicators of school performance (although I believe she is over stating we are certainly in the top twenty).

  • Anonymous

    Check out the rates of students taking the test.  We test all of our students not just college bound students so our test scores are going to be lower, however MaryBelle is refering to a metric measures all indicators of school performance (although I believe she is over stating we are certainly in the top twenty).

  • Anonymous

    1.  I don’t think he cares .  No teachers voted for him the first time anyway.

    2.  Even if he does care,  how great is it that we have a Governor that is taking the difficult, but necessary actions without an eye on the next election. 

    The last Governor tried to keep everyone happy and leave the bill for our children.

  • Anonymous

    1.  I don’t think he cares .  No teachers voted for him the first time anyway.

    2.  Even if he does care,  how great is it that we have a Governor that is taking the difficult, but necessary actions without an eye on the next election. 

    The last Governor tried to keep everyone happy and leave the bill for our children.

  • Anonymous

    1.  I don’t think he cares .  No teachers voted for him the first time anyway.

    2.  Even if he does care,  how great is it that we have a Governor that is taking the difficult, but necessary actions without an eye on the next election. 

    The last Governor tried to keep everyone happy and leave the bill for our children.

  • Anonymous

    1.  I don’t think he cares .  No teachers voted for him the first time anyway.

    2.  Even if he does care,  how great is it that we have a Governor that is taking the difficult, but necessary actions without an eye on the next election. 

    The last Governor tried to keep everyone happy and leave the bill for our children.

  • Anonymous

    1.  I don’t think he cares .  No teachers voted for him the first time anyway.

    2.  Even if he does care,  how great is it that we have a Governor that is taking the difficult, but necessary actions without an eye on the next election. 

    The last Governor tried to keep everyone happy and leave the bill for our children.

  • yowsayowsa1

     By whose standards?

  • Anonymous

    Good point FuhEvauuuhhh, O’Bama hasn’t spent his time in office making “legal” the torture of innocent suspects bought from lying accusers from their own countries or starting the war on Americans. Busch made sure it was all nice and legal. You So SMAAAAHHHT!

  • Anonymous

    Good point FuhEvauuuhhh, O’Bama hasn’t spent his time in office making “legal” the torture of innocent suspects bought from lying accusers from their own countries or starting the war on Americans. Busch made sure it was all nice and legal. You So SMAAAAHHHT!

  • Anonymous

    Good point FuhEvauuuhhh, O’Bama hasn’t spent his time in office making “legal” the torture of innocent suspects bought from lying accusers from their own countries or starting the war on Americans. Busch made sure it was all nice and legal. You So SMAAAAHHHT!

  • Anonymous

    The president ?  A great leader?    That’s laughable.  A leader doesn’t vote “present” as Obama did 129 times in the Senate.   Hillary Clinton pointed out it was on the tough issues that might polarize voters upon which BHO would not take a position.

    Obama plays a lot of golf,  but he’s lacking something needed for a game of golf.  He has clubs,  a cart,  funny pants,  tees, a caddy and a golfbag.  What’s missing?

    LePage doesn’t play golf.  He has the one item Obama is lacking,  but you don’t want to take club to the brass variety.

  • Anonymous

    The president ?  A great leader?    That’s laughable.  A leader doesn’t vote “present” as Obama did 129 times in the Senate.   Hillary Clinton pointed out it was on the tough issues that might polarize voters upon which BHO would not take a position.

    Obama plays a lot of golf,  but he’s lacking something needed for a game of golf.  He has clubs,  a cart,  funny pants,  tees, a caddy and a golfbag.  What’s missing?

    LePage doesn’t play golf.  He has the one item Obama is lacking,  but you don’t want to take club to the brass variety.

  • Anonymous

    The president ?  A great leader?    That’s laughable.  A leader doesn’t vote “present” as Obama did 129 times in the Senate.   Hillary Clinton pointed out it was on the tough issues that might polarize voters upon which BHO would not take a position.

    Obama plays a lot of golf,  but he’s lacking something needed for a game of golf.  He has clubs,  a cart,  funny pants,  tees, a caddy and a golfbag.  What’s missing?

    LePage doesn’t play golf.  He has the one item Obama is lacking,  but you don’t want to take club to the brass variety.

  • Anonymous

    The president ?  A great leader?    That’s laughable.  A leader doesn’t vote “present” as Obama did 129 times in the Senate.   Hillary Clinton pointed out it was on the tough issues that might polarize voters upon which BHO would not take a position.

    Obama plays a lot of golf,  but he’s lacking something needed for a game of golf.  He has clubs,  a cart,  funny pants,  tees, a caddy and a golfbag.  What’s missing?

    LePage doesn’t play golf.  He has the one item Obama is lacking,  but you don’t want to take club to the brass variety.

  • Anonymous

    The president ?  A great leader?    That’s laughable.  A leader doesn’t vote “present” as Obama did 129 times in the Senate.   Hillary Clinton pointed out it was on the tough issues that might polarize voters upon which BHO would not take a position.

    Obama plays a lot of golf,  but he’s lacking something needed for a game of golf.  He has clubs,  a cart,  funny pants,  tees, a caddy and a golfbag.  What’s missing?

    LePage doesn’t play golf.  He has the one item Obama is lacking,  but you don’t want to take club to the brass variety.

  • Anonymous

    6 miles ?  That will be convenient.

  • Anonymous

    6 miles ?  That will be convenient.

  • Anonymous

    6 miles ?  That will be convenient.

  • Anonymous

    You new to this gig Contwits or does the Koch front organization pay you by the word?

  • Anonymous

    You new to this gig Contwits or does the Koch front organization pay you by the word?

  • Anonymous

    You new to this gig Contwits or does the Koch front organization pay you by the word?

  • Anonymous

    Social security recipients should be so lucky as to get the deal the state emplyees get.  Retire at 60 with 2% of your average 3 highest years salary.  The Social Security retirement age has been increased and benefits decreased a number of times over the years.  The state employees have been shielded from reality and now that the trough is being moved a fraction of an inch from their collective snouts it’s a tagedy of biblical proportions. 

  • Anonymous

    Ain’t that the truth?Those who have caused the problem will not pay for it.And the stupid sheep up there will vote for him again.Cynthia Dill for Governor!

  • Anonymous

    Ain’t that the truth?Those who have caused the problem will not pay for it.And the stupid sheep up there will vote for him again.Cynthia Dill for Governor!

  • Anonymous

    Ain’t that the truth?Those who have caused the problem will not pay for it.And the stupid sheep up there will vote for him again.Cynthia Dill for Governor!

  • Anonymous

    The teachers voted FOR the crooks who caused this whole mess, the DEMS who were in power in Maine for the last 40 years.  LePage is trying to save your retirement so all the employees will get something. 

  • Anonymous

    The teachers voted FOR the crooks who caused this whole mess, the DEMS who were in power in Maine for the last 40 years.  LePage is trying to save your retirement so all the employees will get something. 

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love this LePage guy. You VaCa Landers are a lucky bunch to have him!

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love this LePage guy. You VaCa Landers are a lucky bunch to have him!

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love this LePage guy. You VaCa Landers are lucky to have him!

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love this LePage guy. You VaCa Landers are lucky to have him!

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love this LePage guy. You VaCa Landers are lucky to have him!

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love this LePage guy. You VaCa Landers are lucky to have him!

  • Anonymous

    A lot of these people would love to bring back the workhouse and the orphanage.They don’t want to go back to the 1930′s-they want to go back to the 1830′s!
    “Please sir,may I have another?”

  • Anonymous

    A lot of these people would love to bring back the workhouse and the orphanage.They don’t want to go back to the 1930′s-they want to go back to the 1830′s!
    “Please sir,may I have another?”

  • Anonymous

    A lot of these people would love to bring back the workhouse and the orphanage.They don’t want to go back to the 1930′s-they want to go back to the 1830′s!
    “Please sir,may I have another?”

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you shouldn’t have put all of theose Democrats like John Martin and his ilk in office.  They’re the one who failed to keep the state employee work force in line with revenues and made up the difference by not funding the retirement system.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you shouldn’t have put all of theose Democrats like John Martin and his ilk in office.  They’re the one who failed to keep the state employee work force in line with revenues and made up the difference by not funding the retirement system.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you shouldn’t have put all of theose Democrats like John Martin and his ilk in office.  They’re the one who failed to keep the state employee work force in line with revenues and made up the difference by not funding the retirement system.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your statement,  but I don’t think it was meant for me.  I am not a state employee.

    Years ago I figured the government would mess up Social Security so I planned and saved for retirement on my own.  I figure anything I get from them will be an unexpected  bonus.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your statement,  but I don’t think it was meant for me.  I am not a state employee.

    Years ago I figured the government would mess up Social Security so I planned and saved for retirement on my own.  I figure anything I get from them will be an unexpected  bonus.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your statement,  but I don’t think it was meant for me.  I am not a state employee.

    Years ago I figured the government would mess up Social Security so I planned and saved for retirement on my own.  I figure anything I get from them will be an unexpected  bonus.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your statement,  but I don’t think it was meant for me.  I am not a state employee.

    Years ago I figured the government would mess up Social Security so I planned and saved for retirement on my own.  I figure anything I get from them will be an unexpected  bonus.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your statement,  but I don’t think it was meant for me.  I am not a state employee.

    Years ago I figured the government would mess up Social Security so I planned and saved for retirement on my own.  I figure anything I get from them will be an unexpected  bonus.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your statement,  but I don’t think it was meant for me.  I am not a state employee.

    Years ago I figured the government would mess up Social Security so I planned and saved for retirement on my own.  I figure anything I get from them will be an unexpected  bonus.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your statement,  but I don’t think it was meant for me.  I am not a state employee.

    Years ago I figured the government would mess up Social Security so I planned and saved for retirement on my own.  I figure anything I get from them will be an unexpected  bonus.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already won in most countries around the world. They get confused when they come to the U.S. and discover they haven’t fully screwed us out of every possible scrap of dignity yet. I say deport the Billionaires unless they are really U.S. Citizens. They can visit, they just can’t own the Statue of Liberty, our businesses, our land, or purchase elections. Bermuda has done some excellent work on this front that’s worth reading up on.

  • Anonymous

    I think a lot of those who love to blame teachers were either too dumb or too lazy to do well in school.But they won’t look in the mirror and blame themselves.I love the statement on here”you can’t compare a teacher to an doctor,engineer,etc.”No engineer or other well paid professional got where they were without some great teachers and some hard work.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah .  Recall the guy that’s actually doing something to clean up the mess left by his predecessors.    Great idea.

    The only place to cut is where there is actually spending.  No one wants any cuts to programs which benefit them personally.  It’s not an easy fix.

  • Anonymous

    Those who pay zero income tax and receive government assistance are seeing a reduction in programs that benefit them.  That is their share of the sacrifice.  Teachers and state workers are seeing their pensions reduced.  That is their share of the sacrifice.  Ok, now it is your turn.  In what way are the wealthy sharing in this sacrifice?

    This is not about dissing the wealthy.  It is about asking them to step up to the plate.  Wealthy Americans have been a big part of what has made America great.  But now it seems they all want to live inside gated communities and keep all their money to themselves.  The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans are at or near a historic low in terms of tax rates; they are also at or near a historic high in terms of the percentage of the national economy they control.  Yet somehow, they need still lower tax rates and can’t afford to “create any jobs” until that happens.  I don’t buy it. 

  • Anonymous

    Same difference!  Same result.  By choosing not to fund it, they were borrowing.  Tell us something useful!

  • Anonymous

    Same difference!  Same result.  By choosing not to fund it, they were borrowing.  Tell us something useful!

  • Anonymous

    Same difference!  Same result.  By choosing not to fund it, they were borrowing.  Tell us something useful!

  • Anonymous

    The real reason for the US brokeness….war. Bush and Obama. Their wars on terror. Why are we fighting in Somalia, Libya , Iraq and Afghanistan when the country is in the tubes?

     one trillion is equal to 1000 billion. If you took all the state budget deficits and combined them, which are leading to cuts in vital social programs that will negatively impact the lives of millions of Americans, you would need a small fraction of one trillion, $140 billion (roughly equivalent to the annual military interest payment), to balance every state budget and avoid cuts to all programs.

    David Callahan, reporting for The Policy Shop, summed up the report’s cost estimates:

    “… the total direct and indirect costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan may exceed $6 trillion…. That figure comes from combining congressional appropriations for the wars over the past decade ($1.3 trillion), additional spending by the Pentagon related to the wars ($326 – $652 billion), interest so far on Pentagon war appropriations, all of which was borrowed ($185 billion), immediate medical costs for veterans ($32 billion), war related foreign aid ($74 billion), homeland security spending ($401 billion), projected medical costs for veterans through 2051 ($589 – $934 billion), social costs to military families ($295 – $400 billion), projected Pentagon war spending and foreign aid as troops wind down in the two war zones ($453 billion); and interest payments on all this spending through 2020 ($1 trillion).”

  • Anonymous

    The real reason for the US brokeness….war. Bush and Obama. Their wars on terror. Why are we fighting in Somalia, Libya , Iraq and Afghanistan when the country is in the tubes?

     one trillion is equal to 1000 billion. If you took all the state budget deficits and combined them, which are leading to cuts in vital social programs that will negatively impact the lives of millions of Americans, you would need a small fraction of one trillion, $140 billion (roughly equivalent to the annual military interest payment), to balance every state budget and avoid cuts to all programs.

    David Callahan, reporting for The Policy Shop, summed up the report’s cost estimates:

    “… the total direct and indirect costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan may exceed $6 trillion…. That figure comes from combining congressional appropriations for the wars over the past decade ($1.3 trillion), additional spending by the Pentagon related to the wars ($326 – $652 billion), interest so far on Pentagon war appropriations, all of which was borrowed ($185 billion), immediate medical costs for veterans ($32 billion), war related foreign aid ($74 billion), homeland security spending ($401 billion), projected medical costs for veterans through 2051 ($589 – $934 billion), social costs to military families ($295 – $400 billion), projected Pentagon war spending and foreign aid as troops wind down in the two war zones ($453 billion); and interest payments on all this spending through 2020 ($1 trillion).”

  • Anonymous

    The real reason for the US brokeness….war. Bush and Obama. Their wars on terror. Why are we fighting in Somalia, Libya , Iraq and Afghanistan when the country is in the tubes?

     one trillion is equal to 1000 billion. If you took all the state budget deficits and combined them, which are leading to cuts in vital social programs that will negatively impact the lives of millions of Americans, you would need a small fraction of one trillion, $140 billion (roughly equivalent to the annual military interest payment), to balance every state budget and avoid cuts to all programs.

    David Callahan, reporting for The Policy Shop, summed up the report’s cost estimates:

    “… the total direct and indirect costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan may exceed $6 trillion…. That figure comes from combining congressional appropriations for the wars over the past decade ($1.3 trillion), additional spending by the Pentagon related to the wars ($326 – $652 billion), interest so far on Pentagon war appropriations, all of which was borrowed ($185 billion), immediate medical costs for veterans ($32 billion), war related foreign aid ($74 billion), homeland security spending ($401 billion), projected medical costs for veterans through 2051 ($589 – $934 billion), social costs to military families ($295 – $400 billion), projected Pentagon war spending and foreign aid as troops wind down in the two war zones ($453 billion); and interest payments on all this spending through 2020 ($1 trillion).”

  • Anonymous

    The big problem started with McKernan. King and Baldacci made extra contributions to help solve the problem. Let’s not forget that the reason that we have a state retirement system instead of social security is that is cheaper for the state of Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Corporations and the wealthy have succeeded in getting states to pit themselves against each other in a race to the bottom.  In the end, all states lose — and even more of the money will move overseas to a yet cheaper place. 

    The globalization of the world economy is not something that should be blamed on the people of Maine.  And there has to be a better way of responding to it that trying to outcompete tiny island tax havens in the Caribbean.

    This is not about dissing the wealthy.  It is about asking them to step
    up to the plate.  Wealthy Americans have been a big part of what has
    made America great.  But now it seems they all want to live inside gated
    communities and keep all their money to themselves.  The wealthiest 10
    percent of Americans are at or near a historic low in terms of tax
    rates; they are also at or near a historic high in terms of the
    percentage of the national economy they control.  Yet somehow, they need
    still lower tax rates and can’t afford to “create any jobs” until that
    happens.  I don’t buy it.

  • Anonymous

    Corporations and the wealthy have succeeded in getting states to pit themselves against each other in a race to the bottom.  In the end, all states lose — and even more of the money will move overseas to a yet cheaper place. 

    The globalization of the world economy is not something that should be blamed on the people of Maine.  And there has to be a better way of responding to it that trying to outcompete tiny island tax havens in the Caribbean.

    This is not about dissing the wealthy.  It is about asking them to step
    up to the plate.  Wealthy Americans have been a big part of what has
    made America great.  But now it seems they all want to live inside gated
    communities and keep all their money to themselves.  The wealthiest 10
    percent of Americans are at or near a historic low in terms of tax
    rates; they are also at or near a historic high in terms of the
    percentage of the national economy they control.  Yet somehow, they need
    still lower tax rates and can’t afford to “create any jobs” until that
    happens.  I don’t buy it.

  • Anonymous

    Corporations and the wealthy have succeeded in getting states to pit themselves against each other in a race to the bottom.  In the end, all states lose — and even more of the money will move overseas to a yet cheaper place. 

    The globalization of the world economy is not something that should be blamed on the people of Maine.  And there has to be a better way of responding to it that trying to outcompete tiny island tax havens in the Caribbean.

    This is not about dissing the wealthy.  It is about asking them to step
    up to the plate.  Wealthy Americans have been a big part of what has
    made America great.  But now it seems they all want to live inside gated
    communities and keep all their money to themselves.  The wealthiest 10
    percent of Americans are at or near a historic low in terms of tax
    rates; they are also at or near a historic high in terms of the
    percentage of the national economy they control.  Yet somehow, they need
    still lower tax rates and can’t afford to “create any jobs” until that
    happens.  I don’t buy it.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Maine students ALL take the SAT, which obviously makes Maine test averages lower than other students in which only college bound students take the test. 

    One measure of educational quality is at http://www.alec.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Report_Card_on_American_Education 

    Maine is ranked 14th in the nation!  Could be better — but could be worse.  Be proud of Maine schools,  though.  We have a lot of good things happening!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Maine students ALL take the SAT, which obviously makes Maine test averages lower than other students in which only college bound students take the test. 

    One measure of educational quality is at http://www.alec.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Report_Card_on_American_Education 

    Maine is ranked 14th in the nation!  Could be better — but could be worse.  Be proud of Maine schools,  though.  We have a lot of good things happening!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Maine students ALL take the SAT, which obviously makes Maine test averages lower than other students in which only college bound students take the test. 

    One measure of educational quality is at http://www.alec.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Report_Card_on_American_Education 

    Maine is ranked 14th in the nation!  Could be better — but could be worse.  Be proud of Maine schools,  though.  We have a lot of good things happening!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Maine students ALL take the SAT, which obviously makes Maine test averages lower than other students in which only college bound students take the test. 

    One measure of educational quality is at http://www.alec.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Report_Card_on_American_Education 

    Maine is ranked 14th in the nation!  Could be better — but could be worse.  Be proud of Maine schools,  though.  We have a lot of good things happening!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Maine students ALL take the SAT, which obviously makes Maine test averages lower than other students in which only college bound students take the test. 

    One measure of educational quality is at http://www.alec.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Report_Card_on_American_Education 

    Maine is ranked 14th in the nation!  Could be better — but could be worse.  Be proud of Maine schools,  though.  We have a lot of good things happening!

  • Anonymous

    “This is the Democrat strategy writ large, ignore the problem on all levels and pass the buck to future generations at the federal, state and local level.”  reagean added 1.9 trillion to the federal debt…bush sr. 1.5 trillion…bush jr. 5.9 trillion….what’s the republican strategy again?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1261946888 Stephen Hellum

    liz go back to school and take an economic class. I am a mechanic as a real job, a farmer as a part time and a slum lord as a forced into job. my farm costs me about 3,000.00 more than I take in, my rent costs me about 2,000.00 more than I take in. they are both about a 500.00 tax break together. do the math. When the income lines cross in 8 or 9 years I hope I will have a very modest retirement. I will still have to till the fields and fix problems at the rentals.

  • Anonymous

    The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. Increasing taxes on corporations will only cause them to stay away or to leave the country entirely, not play ball as you would want them to do. Interestingly you didn’t mention excessive government spending as a cause of the recession. Regrettably, if the past is any indication, Washington will continue its addiction to spend and increase its size and influence, unless we the voters demand accountability and a lid on taxes. Washington can and will learn to live with less if enough pressure is brought to bear. At the same time Americans will have to learn to be less dependent on government entitlements as they did in prior times.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    Sir,
    You are obviously neither educated or follow any organized religion that believes in keeping your promises or helping your fellow man. Even so, I repeat for the ten thousandth time, State employees pay MORE for their retirement than social security, the State pays LESS for those pensions and State employees only get about the same amount in benefits. Now we will get far less with ongoing cuts and less ability to buy food and shelter every year.
    I guess “you have yours” and no one else matters.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    Sir,
    You are obviously neither educated or follow any organized religion that believes in keeping your promises or helping your fellow man. Even so, I repeat for the ten thousandth time, State employees pay MORE for their retirement than social security, the State pays LESS for those pensions and State employees only get about the same amount in benefits. Now we will get far less with ongoing cuts and less ability to buy food and shelter every year.
    I guess “you have yours” and no one else matters.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    You are right.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    You are right.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    You are right.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    You are right.

  • Anonymous

    Why should Americans have to spend more to buy US made products? It’s good to be patriotic but this type of good deed won’t cure our economy unless we demand free and FAIR trade from our trading partners like China.

  • Anonymous

    Why should Americans have to spend more to buy US made products? It’s good to be patriotic but this type of good deed won’t cure our economy unless we demand free and FAIR trade from our trading partners like China.

  • Anonymous

    Not True – Your nothing but a trouble maker.

  • Anonymous

    Not True – Your nothing but a trouble maker.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    You are speaking with no knowledge. Tell me how a pre-paid pension is taking money from tax payers now. The pension was paid for in advance, I paid, the State paid, and that won’t cost you a dime in the future.
    We, the employees, pay more in that those on Social Security, pay more and get about the same amount. Unless you have figures to prove your ignorant statements maybe you could talk to one of those teachers you hate and ask for remedial training in math and contract law.
    Move to Florida? If it was good enough for LePage to beat the Fl. taxpayers out of in state tuition and real estate taxes, it is good enough for me.

  • Anonymous

    Why do so many poor and middle class people vote republican? Their the ones getting their asssssses kicked.

  • Anonymous

    Why do so many poor and middle class people vote republican? Their the ones getting their asssssses kicked.

  • Anonymous

    Why do so many poor and middle class people vote republican? Their the ones getting their asssssses kicked.

  • Anonymous

    Lepage said he doesn’t know any rich people in Maine. So he must be right, he’s the gov.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    But………….you take the Union benefits, scream for Union representation if you ever need it, don’t refuse the health care, and I bet you won’t give away your retirement in protest.
    You can’t be a Republican, they claim to pay their way.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    But………….you take the Union benefits, scream for Union representation if you ever need it, don’t refuse the health care, and I bet you won’t give away your retirement in protest.
    You can’t be a Republican, they claim to pay their way.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    But………….you take the Union benefits, scream for Union representation if you ever need it, don’t refuse the health care, and I bet you won’t give away your retirement in protest.
    You can’t be a Republican, they claim to pay their way.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    Sorry, but stupid in a pretty vase is still stupid. State employees do not pay into S.S.
    Please offer to bet, I need to make the next payment on my tax write off in Florida.

    Private sector workers get COLAs on SS in years when there is inflation. Please post some more uninformed comments. It makes the difference between thinking and listening to Fox so much clearer.

  • Anonymous

    If you and yours are so great, where have you been for the past 40 years? Ever wonder why? Guess what, Your going to be gone for another long time after all the raping of the system your doing. Bye Bye.

  • Anonymous

    If you and yours are so great, where have you been for the past 40 years? Ever wonder why? Guess what, Your going to be gone for another long time after all the raping of the system your doing. Bye Bye.

  • Anonymous

    If you and yours are so great, where have you been for the past 40 years? Ever wonder why? Guess what, Your going to be gone for another long time after all the raping of the system your doing. Bye Bye.

  • Anonymous

    If you and yours are so great, where have you been for the past 40 years? Ever wonder why? Guess what, Your going to be gone for another long time after all the raping of the system your doing. Bye Bye.

  • Anonymous

    If you and yours are so great, where have you been for the past 40 years? Ever wonder why? Guess what, Your going to be gone for another long time after all the raping of the system your doing. Bye Bye.

  • http://profiles.google.com/narsbars Narsbars UnionMaine.Blogspot.C

    Sorry State Employees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you paid for your pension in advance, so the money wasn’t put in and spent.
    You have to realize that since you did put all that money aside it is your duty as good citizens to give it up for tax breaks.

    There is still billions in the pension fund. If you Union thugs would let your pensions be cut to no COLA, slash the payments by 50% or even more, the money would simply flood into 10 bedroom shore land cottages with big boats.
    Then the job creators might even hire you to chop a shrub instead of the Canadians we all know work far harder than Mainers.

    Look! Just give it up. Lots of people had their money stolen by Wall St. and now those people want to take yours……….see, trickle down does work. Now do your civic duty, give up your pensions, cancel your benefits, and check out the Chinese wage scale and get your Union bosses to demand pay cuts.
    You will do it if you are real Americans and truly love Maine.

  • SwiftyMorgain

       You cant demand anything from a Communist / Dictator regime when  you have no ability to verify accountability to the demand. Jesssz!!! we have a hard enough time with our own politicians!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

    http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/Dec_17_2008_06.php

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/01/nyregion/chinese-firm-pleads-guilty-in-labor-case.html?src=pm

    These countries have prison labor camps diguised as viable buisnesses!  

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/04/mexico.slave.labor/index.html
     We are only in for reduced standard of living when we compete with this. Ah! yes! (Compettition) one of the Republicans favorite words!

       Just think, there are forces that want to privatise prisons in America. 

    So I paid $20.00 more than I wanted but it was made in America I feel very good about it and the quality is great.

  • SwiftyMorgain

       You cant demand anything from a Communist / Dictator regime when  you have no ability to verify accountability to the demand. Jesssz!!! we have a hard enough time with our own politicians!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

    http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/Dec_17_2008_06.php

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/01/nyregion/chinese-firm-pleads-guilty-in-labor-case.html?src=pm

    These countries have prison labor camps diguised as viable buisnesses!  

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/04/mexico.slave.labor/index.html
     We are only in for reduced standard of living when we compete with this. Ah! yes! (Compettition) one of the Republicans favorite words!

       Just think, there are forces that want to privatise prisons in America. 

    So I paid $20.00 more than I wanted but it was made in America I feel very good about it and the quality is great.

  • SwiftyMorgain

       You cant demand anything from a Communist / Dictator regime when  you have no ability to verify accountability to the demand. Jesssz!!! we have a hard enough time with our own politicians!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

    http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/Dec_17_2008_06.php

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/01/nyregion/chinese-firm-pleads-guilty-in-labor-case.html?src=pm

    These countries have prison labor camps diguised as viable buisnesses!  

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/04/mexico.slave.labor/index.html
     We are only in for reduced standard of living when we compete with this. Ah! yes! (Compettition) one of the Republicans favorite words!

       Just think, there are forces that want to privatise prisons in America. 

    So I paid $20.00 more than I wanted but it was made in America I feel very good about it and the quality is great.

  • SwiftyMorgain

       You cant demand anything from a Communist / Dictator regime when  you have no ability to verify accountability to the demand. Jesssz!!! we have a hard enough time with our own politicians!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

    http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/Dec_17_2008_06.php

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/01/nyregion/chinese-firm-pleads-guilty-in-labor-case.html?src=pm

    These countries have prison labor camps diguised as viable buisnesses!  

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/04/mexico.slave.labor/index.html
     We are only in for reduced standard of living when we compete with this. Ah! yes! (Compettition) one of the Republicans favorite words!

       Just think, there are forces that want to privatise prisons in America. 

    So I paid $20.00 more than I wanted but it was made in America I feel very good about it and the quality is great.

  • SwiftyMorgain

       You cant demand anything from a Communist / Dictator regime when  you have no ability to verify accountability to the demand. Jesssz!!! we have a hard enough time with our own politicians!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

    http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/Dec_17_2008_06.php

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/01/nyregion/chinese-firm-pleads-guilty-in-labor-case.html?src=pm

    These countries have prison labor camps diguised as viable buisnesses!  

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/04/mexico.slave.labor/index.html
     We are only in for reduced standard of living when we compete with this. Ah! yes! (Compettition) one of the Republicans favorite words!

       Just think, there are forces that want to privatise prisons in America. 

    So I paid $20.00 more than I wanted but it was made in America I feel very good about it and the quality is great.

  • Anonymous

    Interestingly when you speak about greed you always seem to point to the “wealthy”. This vice is much, much more pervasive than that. The typical American is very wasteful. Just think for instance about all the junk Americans buy from China. Much of it ends up in no time on the garbage heap, in storage somewhere where it can’t be found, or on display in a garage sale with the original price tag still on it, while the rest of the world is getting by with a lot less by comparison. Also, please explain to me what is greedy about the typical billionaire who is less then one percent cash rich while the rest of his wealth is in capital used in the production of wealth and jobs for Americans. Attacking the wealthy might make you feel better but it won’t help re-start the economy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lori.strout Lori Strout

    Most people have no idea. Not only was our household budget for heating our house blown due to the combination of the new retirement payment, but how would you like to be someone who became a teacher later on in life, working in the private sector and paying into SS, then not being able to touch a single cent of it when you retire because you became a teacher in the State of Maine? 15+ years of SS contributions gone!

  • Anonymous

    The average retired teacher gets $20,000 a year.  Why do they get to live high on the hog of the taxpayers.
    Time for teachers to pay their fair share!

  • Anonymous

    The average retired teacher gets $20,000 a year.  Why do they get to live high on the hog of the taxpayers.
    Time for teachers to pay their fair share!

  • Anonymous

    You mean Goldman Sacks gets billions instead of trillions, don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    You mean Goldman Sacks gets billions instead of trillions, don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    You mean Goldman Sacks gets billions instead of trillions, don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for dishonest politicians being continually elected when they do not represent their constituents. This comment was copied due to Wisconsin not allowing exit polling. We are a third world country. Please note the last line in the quote.

    Republicans have conveniently been placed at the heads of election oversight departments throughout the country as well. The companies which make all the voting devices are Republican owned. This process has been going on for many many years. The EAC, the federal Commission consists of 4 presidential Appointees. Obama did not bother to appoint any. The BUSh appointees are still there in two seats. the other 2 seats have been sitting vacant…..This is the OCmmission in charge of determining which election systems can be used in this country. you might notice a certain push towards computers?

    Were that it were that simple. It is not just Republicans either. The other party has a stake in leaving things as they are apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, sorry.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, sorry.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, sorry.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, sorry.

  • Anonymous

    You seem to agree with me in that we are not competing with China’s slave market in the world market. Incidentally, me thinks “competition” is a nice word. It’s what made this country the giant economic engine it once was. I’m afraid however that that admired status won’t last very long as our people are becoming soft and narcissistic, if the latest sociological finding is a true indicator of the direction we are headed into.  

  • Anonymous

    You seem to agree with me in that we are not competing with China’s slave market in the world market. Incidentally, me thinks “competition” is a nice word. It’s what made this country the giant economic engine it once was. I’m afraid however that that admired status won’t last very long as our people are becoming soft and narcissistic, if the latest sociological finding is a true indicator of the direction we are headed into.  

  • Anonymous

    Are you arguing in favor of tax breaks for millionaires? In what way do their tax breaks help you?

  • Anonymous

    Are you arguing in favor of tax breaks for millionaires? In what way do their tax breaks help you?

  • Anonymous

    In addition, because of the tax cuts to those for whom a tax cut is not as critical as being forced to choose between buying food or medicine, the Legislature will need to cut an additional $400,000 in the next biennium. Somewhere in there was a fairer approach for all.

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • SwiftyMorgain

      The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world

    I had seen that statement before and in trying to come to a valid conclusion, so I went to many resources.
     It is mostly true as the statement refers to the (Tax Rate) in which the USA is argueably  second only to Japan.
       If you look at the effective rate it drops down about seven places because of loopholes and if you look at the total taxes that a corporation pays it is about 16 th even behind mexico.

    So although that statement is true it can be a misleading figuere!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/04/marco-rubio/sen-marco-rubio-says-united-states-will-soon-have-/

  • Anonymous

    The size of our government grew at an unprecedented rate during the Bush years. Look at the money we borrowed to wage the two wars, the Bush Tax cuts, No Child Left Behind, the Prescription Drug Bill, the Highway Transportation Bill of 2005, Homeland Security, and the battle against illegal immigration. All money borrowed on the taxpayer’s credit card.

    How can we even begin to bring the deficit under control when we pour so much money into defense? We didn’t spend this high a percentage of our GDP during the Cold War or Vietnam.

    Social Security would be solvent if we didn’t keep borrowing money from it to issue bonds and where did I suggest raising the corporate tax rate? Even lowering the rate will not bring them back to this country. Only reforming our trade agreements making them more equitable will have an impact.

    Corporations are sitting on more cash than they ever have waiting for demand to increase. Unfortunately, Americans don’t have as much money to spend which reduces demand. All the big tax cuts have done is shift more wealth to the top. They aren’t spending it! They haven’t created any jobs. It’s time for the wealthy to start repaying this country for the great wealth it has allowed them to amass.

  • Anonymous

    The size of our government grew at an unprecedented rate during the Bush years. Look at the money we borrowed to wage the two wars, the Bush Tax cuts, No Child Left Behind, the Prescription Drug Bill, the Highway Transportation Bill of 2005, Homeland Security, and the battle against illegal immigration. All money borrowed on the taxpayer’s credit card.

    How can we even begin to bring the deficit under control when we pour so much money into defense? We didn’t spend this high a percentage of our GDP during the Cold War or Vietnam.

    Social Security would be solvent if we didn’t keep borrowing money from it to issue bonds and where did I suggest raising the corporate tax rate? Even lowering the rate will not bring them back to this country. Only reforming our trade agreements making them more equitable will have an impact.

    Corporations are sitting on more cash than they ever have waiting for demand to increase. Unfortunately, Americans don’t have as much money to spend which reduces demand. All the big tax cuts have done is shift more wealth to the top. They aren’t spending it! They haven’t created any jobs. It’s time for the wealthy to start repaying this country for the great wealth it has allowed them to amass.

  • Anonymous

    Un hun, and what you dont realize is how many seniors these days “retire” and keep working. So your book definition doesnt really work. My uncle is 74. Retired military. Then retired from his civilian job. And he STILL is working. Part-time. There are millions like him. You’d be amazed at how many double-dip pensioners down in Mass are still working. So I have to ask. Where do you get your information? Its usually not right.

  • Anonymous

    Un hun, and what you dont realize is how many seniors these days “retire” and keep working. So your book definition doesnt really work. My uncle is 74. Retired military. Then retired from his civilian job. And he STILL is working. Part-time. There are millions like him. You’d be amazed at how many double-dip pensioners down in Mass are still working. So I have to ask. Where do you get your information? Its usually not right.

  • Anonymous

    Un hun, and what you dont realize is how many seniors these days “retire” and keep working. So your book definition doesnt really work. My uncle is 74. Retired military. Then retired from his civilian job. And he STILL is working. Part-time. There are millions like him. You’d be amazed at how many double-dip pensioners down in Mass are still working. So I have to ask. Where do you get your information? Its usually not right.

  • Anonymous

    Un hun, and what you dont realize is how many seniors these days “retire” and keep working. So your book definition doesnt really work. My uncle is 74. Retired military. Then retired from his civilian job. And he STILL is working. Part-time. There are millions like him. You’d be amazed at how many double-dip pensioners down in Mass are still working. So I have to ask. Where do you get your information? Its usually not right.

  • Anonymous

    Un hun, and what you dont realize is how many seniors these days “retire” and keep working. So your book definition doesnt really work. My uncle is 74. Retired military. Then retired from his civilian job. And he STILL is working. Part-time. There are millions like him. You’d be amazed at how many double-dip pensioners down in Mass are still working. So I have to ask. Where do you get your information? Its usually not right.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for doing the homework. However being 16th is apparently not good enough for corporations that continue the exodus to countries that tax little or none. I favor leaving the corporate tax rate as is or even bringing it down if necessary to preserve our plants and jobs. Better yet, I think we would be far better off with a system that taxes personal consumption instead of income, the latter of which discourages investment and hard work while the former encourages wiser spending habits.

  • Anonymous

    High on the hog?  14, 000 is poverty level.  $20,000 isn’t so much over that.

  • Anonymous

    Well, we aren’t  sure they are done, yet, really are we ?   ; )

  • http://www.facebook.com/roger.merchant Roger Merchant

    After re-scanning these posts I am left with an impression that regardless of anyone’s political leanings, persuasions and opinions what seems to be playing out here at a fairly high level is a  binge of dividedness and divisiveness. If all 261 of us were actually a community engaged in trying to figure out some things that would be of benefit to each of us and all of us in our retired roles, which will arrive sooner and later, well apparently that possibility has gotten lost in the fray… If any highly influential special interest group was looking to create dividedness within a community as a tactic and means to get their way, well folks that is exactly whats going on here, regardless of the issue. I find this fact deeply disturbing. A house divided is exactly that. So tell me where is the common ground among all these disparate views and opinions? Are we looking out for each other like a community can do? Or are we looking to simply further our own self interest, and the hell with anyone else? What kind of ethic and community is that?    

  • Anonymous

    Bush spent a lot and so has Obama (adding 3.7 trillion dollars to the national debt so far in his term as president). This out-of-control spending by either party has to stop one way or another if we want our country to prosper as it once did. Because of this our corporations are very reluctant to invest their cash, and some are leaving for greener pastures. The faster the politicians on Capital Hill react to this reality the sooner we will see corporations expand and help economic recovery. I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but I believe there is something very pernicious that is going on in this country that unless corrected will inevitably lead it into a downward spiral. If the latest sociological study is any worthwhile indication, Americans are becoming soft and more narcissistic.

  • Anonymous

    Bush spent a lot and so has Obama (adding 3.7 trillion dollars to the national debt so far in his term as president). This out-of-control spending by either party has to stop one way or another if we want our country to prosper as it once did. Because of this our corporations are very reluctant to invest their cash, and some are leaving for greener pastures. The faster the politicians on Capital Hill react to this reality the sooner we will see corporations expand and help economic recovery. I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but I believe there is something very pernicious that is going on in this country that unless corrected will inevitably lead it into a downward spiral. If the latest sociological study is any worthwhile indication, Americans are becoming soft and more narcissistic.

  • Anonymous

    Bush spent a lot and so has Obama (adding 3.7 trillion dollars to the national debt so far in his term as president). This out-of-control spending by either party has to stop one way or another if we want our country to prosper as it once did. Because of this our corporations are very reluctant to invest their cash, and some are leaving for greener pastures. The faster the politicians on Capital Hill react to this reality the sooner we will see corporations expand and help economic recovery. I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but I believe there is something very pernicious that is going on in this country that unless corrected will inevitably lead it into a downward spiral. If the latest sociological study is any worthwhile indication, Americans are becoming soft and more narcissistic.

  • Anonymous

    Bush spent a lot and so has Obama (adding 3.7 trillion dollars to the national debt so far in his term as president). This out-of-control spending by either party has to stop one way or another if we want our country to prosper as it once did. Because of this our corporations are very reluctant to invest their cash, and some are leaving for greener pastures. The faster the politicians on Capital Hill react to this reality the sooner we will see corporations expand and help economic recovery. I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but I believe there is something very pernicious that is going on in this country that unless corrected will inevitably lead it into a downward spiral. If the latest sociological study is any worthwhile indication, Americans are becoming soft and more narcissistic.

  • SwiftyMorgain

       The politifact website is a good source to verify facts. They can be easily distorted from what ever side. quite often there is (some ) truth to even the most outlandish claim.

     I totally disagree!  Consumption is the job creator! Not the guy who has amassed all the Money!

    When there is confidence that there is spending and economic activity, regardless if you have any money a bank will loan you the cash as long as you have a viable buisness plan!

    Thats where the Republicans have it all wrong.

    Without the wind your 2 million dollar sailboat is just a chunk of floating debris!

  • Anonymous

    Children reflect their parents’ attitudes.  People with such disrespect for educators pervert their children’s minds so that school becomes a joke and the teachers — saps.    I worked for many years in the private sector and chose to become a teacher because I loved my subject and wanted to see kids become enthusiastic about literacy.   The nastiness and bitterness in people who label themselves conservative is frankly appalling and frightening.   I am sorry for you.

  • Anonymous

    Children reflect their parents’ attitudes.  People with such disrespect for educators pervert their children’s minds so that school becomes a joke and the teachers — saps.    I worked for many years in the private sector and chose to become a teacher because I loved my subject and wanted to see kids become enthusiastic about literacy.   The nastiness and bitterness in people who label themselves conservative is frankly appalling and frightening.   I am sorry for you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Yes…or possibly remedial studies in summer school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Yes…or possibly remedial studies in summer school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Yes…or possibly remedial studies in summer school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Yes…or possibly remedial studies in summer school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Yes…or possibly remedial studies in summer school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Yes…or possibly remedial studies in summer school.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    You denigrate teachers and now we find out you are a consultant.  The Wizard of Oz was a consultant, too.  During my career I have seen quite a few “consultants”.  It was worth it for the donuts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    You denigrate teachers and now we find out you are a consultant.  The Wizard of Oz was a consultant, too.  During my career I have seen quite a few “consultants”.  It was worth it for the donuts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    You denigrate teachers and now we find out you are a consultant.  The Wizard of Oz was a consultant, too.  During my career I have seen quite a few “consultants”.  It was worth it for the donuts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    You denigrate teachers and now we find out you are a consultant.  The Wizard of Oz was a consultant, too.  During my career I have seen quite a few “consultants”.  It was worth it for the donuts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

    Yes.. or some summer school remedial work.

  • Tyke

     Maine requires 100% of students to take the SAT whereas in other states only college bound students take that test.

    Got any actually comparable methods to measure Maine vs other states or just that apples-oranges silliness.

  • Tyke

     … and Lepage was 100% vested after serving just 6 months in a full retirement that is more than teachers with 25 years in the system .

  • Tyke

     The rich in America have gotten rich largely because of the extensive infrastructure paid for by all tax payers (educated work force, transportation systems, research facilities, etc etc).

    It is amazing that anyone who is not themselves very rich has been fooled into screeching loudly and repetitively about it not being “fair” to require that they help to finance these systems at a fair and equitable rate in line with their disproportional benefit from them.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously you have completed an extensive garbage heap survey, or perhap a garage sale poll ?  Since your post is your opinion, mine is that the wasteful Chinese-made goods are found mostly at Mardens (after Walmart and Sam’s club).  And you want me to believe that a typical billionaire leaves his capital in the U.S. so that it can grow (and also produce jobs and wealth for Americans) ?   Haven’t you been following the on-going IRS amnesty program for wealthy individuals who stash their “capital” outside the country ?  The government is quietly recovering huge amounts of tax penalties from these billionaires whose money has been supporting wealth growth and jobs in places where there IS growth – and that’s not here.  Time to recover more of it by closing obvious tax loopholes, removing subsidies and sunsetting the temporary Bush income tax reductions, and return to Reagan-era reality.

  • Tyke

     Wow – Your entire set of “facts” is a made up muddle of untruths.

    I think you may have broken some kind of record.

    Baldacci never “inacted a 75%” tax on anything. Ever.

  • Tyke

     Thank you for your service. Both the run that earned you your GI benefits and your years educating our citizenry!

  • Anonymous

    Well, they can pick up a few part time jobs to help out.

  • Anonymous

    Pop Quiz: Was Governor John R. McKernan, Jr. a Democrat? Please reply to this post if you know the answer and have posted anything about Democrats running the state for the last 30 or 40 years. Also, be sure to list the years that John R. McKernan, Jr.  was in office.

  • Anonymous

    Pop Quiz: Was Maine Governor Angus King a Democrat or a Republican? We got him from Maine Public television. Answer me this one. Same rules as the last quiz. Just reply if you know the answer but post stupid things involving Democrats running things in Maine for the past 20, 30, or 40 years.

  • Anonymous

    No amount of consumption can and will ever create an ounce of wealth or jobs. To produce the latter it takes job and wealth creators who are motivated (in most cases) by profits. Of course if they don’t anticipate buyer consumption for their product, they will lessen or stop production. They will also lessen or stop production if they cannot produce competitively. With our dollar losing value on account of huge deficits at every level of government, foreign goods gain a competitive advantage, hence the urgent need to get the deficits under control if we want to keep our job and wealth producing capacity.

    Yes, there is indeed a relationship between consumption and the job creator.(I believe this is what you meant when you said “Consumption is the job creator.”). The real important distinction is not whether there will be any job and wealth creators if the ability to consume exists. Rather, it is where those jobs and wealth are being created that makes a difference to our economy. Jobs and wealth created outside our economy helps economies other than ours. That’s certainly not what we want nor desire for ourselves! If as you suggest we keep giving people purchasing power by giving them money through the US treasury, the treasury debt will keep piling and piling, thus further eroding the value of our money abroad and making our products less and less competitive at home and abroad until there is no more production and associated jobs. We are well on our way to that point where production and jobs disappear altogether. So, spreading the wealth is a dangerous path to follow right now.

  • Anonymous

    No, I don’t want you to believe “a typical billionaire leaves his capital in the U.S. so that is can grow” because a typical millionaire will usually invest his capital where he sees a profit potential and that is not always in the U.S. Also, I don’t deny the existence of tax fraud by wealthy individuals or corporations. I’m not that naive. But I also know that many other Americans in numbers far, far more numerous than wealthy individuals and corporations combined, commit fraud that far exceeds in aggregate value the fraud committed by the rich. What I am saying is that most Americans share blame for the dour state of the economy, not just the rich who are, incidentally not all crooks. If you would leave partisans politics aside for a while, I think you’d have a clearer view of what is causing our economy to fail.

    Finally I agree it’s time to close obvious tax loopholes that don’t benefit the economy. But do you realize that, if the temporary Bush income tax reductions are allowed to expire as was originally intended, most tax payers will be paying more taxes, and not just the wealthy? Reagan was for lower taxes for everyone, not just some.

  • SwiftyMorgain

    You might want to do a little reasearch on CIA Black Ops mind control done on congress to support the wars!!!

    Yes its true!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Whoooaa! Thats a good one!

    Offering some fine fat carving to appease the hatchet man is being a villian!

    But then,
    Actually he called thier bluff and offered to double the spending cuts that the hatchet men wanted  and they folded like a cheap tent!

    It proved that they are only out for political gain!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    They where promised a pension and it wasn’t funded! ===reneged!

    It was part of a negotiated package and withholding it is the same as withholding wages agreed upon!

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps you expect to work past standard retirement age. It’s true that many do. You might still be working at age 67. Some do retire from one job, then work at another… for a while. Perhaps you’ll work to age 77. Or 87? or 97? How many do that?

    I’m in my mid-60s and have an awful feeling I’ll have to work until I drop. That’s true of many. But, like many others, I am developing a health condition that makes me wonder how long I can sustain employment. I feel I’ll be VERY lucky if I can still do my job at 67, and I’m doubting I’ll be able to do it at 70. Hoping, but doubting.

    And I very fortunately have an indoor job that doesn’t require much physical stamina.

    The notion that it’s OK to slash retirement benefits always seems to depend on believing people can and will work until they actually die. But many people become too ill or frail to work at any job. Think of electrical linemen and laborers. The Republican model seems to picture cheerful 75-year-olds  atop phone poles in a sleet storm, and 80-year-olds whistling a carefree tune while climbing girders.

    Slicing people’s pensions to balance the budget (instead of cutting tax breaks for millionaires), and justifying this with the notion that “many” people work past retirement is what doesn’t make sense.

  • Anonymous

    Kind of late on this but isn’t this administration setting a precedent? A precedent of not honoring contracts that were negotiated in good faith? Won’t this open the door for other contracts to not be honored? How about if someone buys a house with one of those variable interest loans that are all the rage. They figure in the future that their property values will increase and they will still have a job. There company moves overseas and the market drops yet the intereset on their loan goes up. Will the home buyer be able to renegotiate or just ignore the contract they signed in good faith?

  • Anonymous

    If the former Governors had paid attention, we would not be in this mess. They knew there was a problem. Though LePage said ” cash flow would not be affected”; really? Let us see if the Legislature stops taxing retiree’s.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Your reply was heartfelt and that’s about it.  SS is a ponzi scheme.  The whole scheme was dreamed up from the idea that America’s population would always increase such that there would always be more workers in the work force to pay for those retiring.  It worked great for you 93 old mother who probably contributed very little to the plan but received $7,200 a year from age 65 to 93.  $201,600 in benefits for how much in contributions?  I know you think its okay, she was your mother.  I feel the same way about my mother but common sense tells me the program cannot be sustained.  I’m a realist, what are you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OZAIKPLLQM6W7GDAKRCVVCFD5I Kevin and Julie

    There is almost no Republican party in Connecticut and look what the Dems did to the state. Its out of control. Highest taxes than any state and in a big hole .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OZAIKPLLQM6W7GDAKRCVVCFD5I Kevin and Julie

    Poorly regulated Wall Street?  With a 9% average yearly rate of return. I would like to not have any Social Security and just put it in the S+P 500 index. You”ll do way better.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZVOZU6JNL5ZDZW3VNASGTCCTY Clyde Grant

    There is a season for everything.  All of us didn’t heed this philosophy.  When the economy was in good shape we didn’t take care of our infrastructure or pay our teachers well and so on.  What we did was fall into the conspicuos (sp) consumption trap and not face our responsibilties.
    It is so easy to blame the other guy.  The little guy blames wall street; wall street blames the little guy for being dumb; we all blame the politicians because they are all in bed with big business through the lobbiest(sp).  All of us are to blame.  In our own way we were all greedy. 
    Legislation is easy but making personal changes isn’t.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZVOZU6JNL5ZDZW3VNASGTCCTY Clyde Grant

    There is a season for everything.  All of us didn’t heed this philosophy.  When the economy was in good shape we didn’t take care of our infrastructure or pay our teachers well and so on.  What we did was fall into the conspicuos (sp) consumption trap and not face our responsibilties.
    It is so easy to blame the other guy.  The little guy blames wall street; wall street blames the little guy for being dumb; we all blame the politicians because they are all in bed with big business through the lobbiest(sp).  All of us are to blame.  In our own way we were all greedy. 
    Legislation is easy but making personal changes isn’t.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZVOZU6JNL5ZDZW3VNASGTCCTY Clyde Grant

    There is a season for everything.  All of us didn’t heed this philosophy.  When the economy was in good shape we didn’t take care of our infrastructure or pay our teachers well and so on.  What we did was fall into the conspicuos (sp) consumption trap and not face our responsibilties.
    It is so easy to blame the other guy.  The little guy blames wall street; wall street blames the little guy for being dumb; we all blame the politicians because they are all in bed with big business through the lobbiest(sp).  All of us are to blame.  In our own way we were all greedy. 
    Legislation is easy but making personal changes isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    the happiest countries in the world …. you quote.  we do that now.  the entitlement programs in this country and this state are outrageous.  those recipients aren’t happy; they continually whine for more benefits and think  ’those rich people should ‘pay us’ their hard earned money’ so I don’t have to work.  I’m not talking about not taking care of children and old folks, i’m talking about those MANY who feel entitled to everyone else’s assets.

    I’ve heard several losers receiving undeserved benefits refer to it as ‘their’ pay check.  paycheck!?!?

    your type makes me sick

  • Anonymous

    not so ‘swift’ are you?

  • Anonymous

    we shouldn’t have to fight to protect ss.

  • Anonymous

    what world do you live in mb? 

  • Anonymous

    yes, damn them all to hell!  has absolutely nothing to do with the sense of entitlement in this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tim-Pearson/1463386663 Tim Pearson

    Despite your entreaty to not “get started”, I must.   Walk a day or a few weeks in this teacher’s shoes and you will change your tune.   The teachers I work spend almost every minute with students and spend many hours outside the school day with students and on school related tasks.  We don’t do it for the money, we do it because we love kids and the rewards of seeing them succeed.   Come spend a week in our school.

  • Anonymous

    Oh   my……

  • Anonymous

    Oh   my……

  • Anonymous

    I think you have been paying to much attention to the nurses union propaganda.  On the other hand I hear that a disproportionate number of the patients are sick in hospitals than of the population at large at any given time.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have been paying to much attention to the nurses union propaganda.  On the other hand I hear that a disproportionate number of the patients are sick in hospitals than of the population at large at any given time.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have been paying to much attention to the nurses union propaganda.  On the other hand I hear that a disproportionate number of the patients are sick in hospitals than of the population at large at any given time.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have been paying to much attention to the nurses union propaganda.  On the other hand I hear that a disproportionate number of the patients are sick in hospitals than of the population at large at any given time.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have been paying to much attention to the nurses union propaganda.  On the other hand I hear that a disproportionate number of the patients are sick in hospitals than of the population at large at any given time.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have been paying to much attention to the nurses union propaganda.  On the other hand I hear that a disproportionate number of the patients are sick in hospitals than of the population at large at any given time.

  • Anonymous

    I think you have been paying to much attention to the nurses union propaganda.  On the other hand I hear that a disproportionate number of the patients are sick in hospitals than of the population at large at any given time.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you are partially right. I am a retired nurse. My information comes from past experience, reading extensively because this was my chosen field for life. And alternative health care. That is a biggy. Regular American Medical Association meme is everything is fine. When in actuality , US health care is very sick itself.

  • Anonymous

    Reducing our state’s revenues by giving tax breaks to the ultra-wealthy creates part of the shortfall. This has been done on purpose (both state and federal level) in order to justify cutting programs that help the poor, the elderly, and the disabled, and to fake some reasons for anti-union measures.

  • Anonymous

    Reducing our state’s revenues by giving tax breaks to the ultra-wealthy creates part of the shortfall. This has been done on purpose (both state and federal level) in order to justify cutting programs that help the poor, the elderly, and the disabled, and to fake some reasons for anti-union measures.

  • Anonymous

    You appear to have forgotten about the national economic meltdown just a few years back, in which our poorly-regulated Wall Street folks brought the US to the brink of Depression II, only to get bailed out at taxpayer expense.  If elderly people’s Social Security-type payments depend on the stock market, the next time it crashes they will have NOTHING to live on. If Republican leaders have their way, there won’t be any social safety net programs to help them (but multimillionaires will continue to get tax breaks at public expense).

  • Anonymous

    Well said… it always amazes me when I see ordinary people fight to assure their own demise.  There is no doubt that the greediest Americans are smiling and find this divided mentality to be a pleasantly unexpected response in their favor.  It’s an age-old, tried and true very simple formula that allows this problem to exist and thrive – incite fear, misinform, divide and conquer.  This is same process and mentality that brings people into cults and to follow what to many is obviously illogical and  unrealistic that clearly leads to their own demise and the financial gain of conmen… 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    This is how things look to me.  Under the LePage plan a teacher’s retirement benefit will be about $4500 less in the year 2020.  The teacher will receive about $25,000 less in benefits from now until the year 2020 as a total.  The teacher loses.

    Governor LePage also wants to reduce the top income tax bracket from 8.5% to 7.95%.  If your taxable income is $40,000 or less, filing jointly, there will be no change in your tax obligation.  If your taxable income is $100,000 you will save about $330.  If your taxable income is $250,000 you will save $1155.  Upper income earners gain.

    The estate tax is harder to figure.  The estate tax is a conundrum wrapped in a riddle surrounded by an enigma, but it looks something like this as far as I can tell.  Governor LePage wants the exemption increased from one million dollars to two million dollars.  If your estate is one million, you will see no change.  If your estate is two million, it looks like the estate tax would go from $40,000 to zero.  If your estate is $10,000,000, your estate tax would go from $930,000 to $790,000.  You save $140,000, a gain for the upper income bracket. 

    As Robin Williams said in Good Morning, Vietnam, “You be the judge.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    This is how things look to me.  Under the LePage plan a teacher’s retirement benefit will be about $4500 less in the year 2020.  The teacher will receive about $25,000 less in benefits from now until the year 2020 as a total.  The teacher loses.

    Governor LePage also wants to reduce the top income tax bracket from 8.5% to 7.95%.  If your taxable income is $40,000 or less, filing jointly, there will be no change in your tax obligation.  If your taxable income is $100,000 you will save about $330.  If your taxable income is $250,000 you will save $1155.  Upper income earners gain.

    The estate tax is harder to figure.  The estate tax is a conundrum wrapped in a riddle surrounded by an enigma, but it looks something like this as far as I can tell.  Governor LePage wants the exemption increased from one million dollars to two million dollars.  If your estate is one million, you will see no change.  If your estate is two million, it looks like the estate tax would go from $40,000 to zero.  If your estate is $10,000,000, your estate tax would go from $930,000 to $790,000.  You save $140,000, a gain for the upper income bracket. 

    As Robin Williams said in Good Morning, Vietnam, “You be the judge.”

  • SwiftyMorgain

    18 billion in aid to Irag, mysteriously dissapeared!

  • 525_44

    You sound like one of those folks who have absolutely no idea about the teaching profession!
    Sour grapes, you think they have it better than you so you are envious and angry.

  • 525_44

    Because most are misinformed or give into scare tactics.

  • 525_44

    Because most are misinformed or give into scare tactics.

  • 525_44

    Because most are misinformed or give into scare tactics.

  • 525_44

    Because most are misinformed or give into scare tactics.

  • 525_44

    Because most are misinformed or give into scare tactics.

  • 525_44

    Huh?

  • 525_44

    Huh?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    what’s the republican strategy again?

    Then blame the Democrats for spending to much!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    what’s the republican strategy again?

    Then blame the Democrats for spending to much!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    what’s the republican strategy again?

    Then blame the Democrats for spending to much!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    what’s the republican strategy again?

    Then blame the Democrats for spending to much!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    what’s the republican strategy again?

    Then blame the Democrats for spending to much!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    what’s the republican strategy again?

    Then blame the Democrats for spending to much!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Teachers don’t feel that they should have to sacrifice at all (the union mentality

    Any different from the Republican Stance on Tax Break Entitlements to the Rich?

  • 525_44

    Anyone making 250K a year can pony up and pay more if they stop living the high life [shared sacrifice] and whine all the time about how their moldy pile of money is a target of the govt.
    The rich are not footing the bill, the average working person is doing most of that, so what if they have to pay more, they have it.

    Spread it around and it works better for the economy than in a stinky rotting pile.

  • 525_44

    Anyone making 250K a year can pony up and pay more if they stop living the high life [shared sacrifice] and whine all the time about how their moldy pile of money is a target of the govt.
    The rich are not footing the bill, the average working person is doing most of that, so what if they have to pay more, they have it.

    Spread it around and it works better for the economy than in a stinky rotting pile.

  • 525_44

    Perfectly stated.

  • 525_44

    It’s their turn to pony up and share in the ‘sacrifice’.

  • 525_44

    It’s their turn to pony up and share in the ‘sacrifice’.

  • 525_44

    It’s their turn to pony up and share in the ‘sacrifice’.

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Man, you nail it on the head!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Man, you nail it on the head!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    No amount of consumption can and will ever create an ounce of wealth or jobs.

    Are you Insane!

    You can’t make a profit on what you dont sell!

    And you can’t sell to Poverty and the Homeless!

    Go sit in your Million Dollar Sailboat and keep waiting for the winds to magically appear!

  • SwiftyMorgain
  • SwiftyMorgain
  • SwiftyMorgain

    I have to drive 10 miles to make a beer run!

  • http://www.facebook.com/lukesinthehouse Luke Thomas

    The S&P Index was up 7.38 percent for the year at the time of the interview. The Maine pension system projections ASSUMES an annual 7.25 percent return on its investments over the next 17 years.
    What happens if the stock market tanks?

  • Anonymous

    I should have rested instead of writing on this blog. Been in the garden.

    Should have written that the people in mid and upper state ME will have to travel 6 hours.

  • Anonymous

    I should have rested instead of writing on this blog. Been in the garden.

    Should have written that the people in mid and upper state ME will have to travel 6 hours.

  • Anonymous

    I should have rested instead of writing on this blog. Been in the garden.

    Should have written that the people in mid and upper state ME will have to travel 6 hours.

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

    Opps! Replied to myself!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

  • SwiftyMorgain

    Thats Ok!

    We all make mistakes, gotcha meaning anyway!

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Then I must be insane since I’ve always believed only people create jobs and wealth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shake up your world by talking common sense.

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  • Anonymous

    The problem I have with the premise of your argument is that you have automatically assumed that the threat of Social Security checks not going out to be true. The simple fact is after August 2nd there will be enough money for ss, medicare, medicaid, military and veterans pay. Yet Barry goes and threatens Grandma’s check and automatically you assume that she wont get paid, and of course that its the Republicans fault. This is no different from the behavior the democrat exhibits anytime the budget gets cut on the local level. The dems then lay off cops and firefighters instead of the mid-level bureaucrats they should lay off and then claim that the budget cuts made the world less safe for “the children”. The bottom line is that the DNC and its ilk have no shame. In order to further their own political fortunes they have no problem scaring Seniors with the threat of taking away their benefits, but the dems never even consider cutting things like welfare because without the layabout vote they are doomed. These current Democrats are the most vile and disgusting maggots I have ever seen darken the door of our capital. I used to vote democrat, but now that the commies have co-opted their party I never will again.

  • Anonymous

    AUGUSTA, Maine — Revenues continued to come in better than expected in June and that has resulted in a revenue surplus of $49.2 million for the budget year that ended June 30. That will increase by another $3 million to $5 million when unspent appropriations are finally tallied next month, but the extra money is already obligated.“It seems the revenue forecasting committee was a little conservative,” Finance CommissionerSawin Millett said Wednesday. “To me, it is a very good turnaround in the last three months.”He said while it is good news, budget law already allocates the first $33.8 million, with $25 million of that going to the state budget reserve. The other monies were set aside in smaller contingency accounts.“This is certainly better than we had anticipated it would be three months ago,” Millett said in an interview. “It is good news and it hopefully is good news about the economy.”Sen. Richard Rosen, R-Bucksport, the co-chairman of the Appropriations Committee said while he had expected a surplus, he did not expect one in the $50 million range.“This revenue surplus is larger that what I expected, “he said. “I think it is encouraging news and that employment is solidifying.” Get it yet Fuhhevuhhh?

  • Anonymous

    AUGUSTA, Maine — Revenues continued to come in better than expected in June and that has resulted in a revenue surplus of $49.2 million for the budget year that ended June 30. That will increase by another $3 million to $5 million when unspent appropriations are finally tallied next month, but the extra money is already obligated.“It seems the revenue forecasting committee was a little conservative,” Finance CommissionerSawin Millett said Wednesday. “To me, it is a very good turnaround in the last three months.”He said while it is good news, budget law already allocates the first $33.8 million, with $25 million of that going to the state budget reserve. The other monies were set aside in smaller contingency accounts.“This is certainly better than we had anticipated it would be three months ago,” Millett said in an interview. “It is good news and it hopefully is good news about the economy.”Sen. Richard Rosen, R-Bucksport, the co-chairman of the Appropriations Committee said while he had expected a surplus, he did not expect one in the $50 million range.“This revenue surplus is larger that what I expected, “he said. “I think it is encouraging news and that employment is solidifying.” Get it yet Fuhhevuhhh?

  • Anonymous

    AUGUSTA, Maine — Revenues continued to come in better than expected in June and that has resulted in a revenue surplus of $49.2 million for the budget year that ended June 30. That will increase by another $3 million to $5 million when unspent appropriations are finally tallied next month, but the extra money is already obligated.“It seems the revenue forecasting committee was a little conservative,” Finance CommissionerSawin Millett said Wednesday. “To me, it is a very good turnaround in the last three months.”He said while it is good news, budget law already allocates the first $33.8 million, with $25 million of that going to the state budget reserve. The other monies were set aside in smaller contingency accounts.“This is certainly better than we had anticipated it would be three months ago,” Millett said in an interview. “It is good news and it hopefully is good news about the economy.”Sen. Richard Rosen, R-Bucksport, the co-chairman of the Appropriations Committee said while he had expected a surplus, he did not expect one in the $50 million range.“This revenue surplus is larger that what I expected, “he said. “I think it is encouraging news and that employment is solidifying.” Get it yet Fuhhevuhhh?

  • Anonymous

    AUGUSTA, Maine — Revenues continued to come in better than expected in June and that has resulted in a revenue surplus of $49.2 million for the budget year that ended June 30. That will increase by another $3 million to $5 million when unspent appropriations are finally tallied next month, but the extra money is already obligated.“It seems the revenue forecasting committee was a little conservative,” Finance CommissionerSawin Millett said Wednesday. “To me, it is a very good turnaround in the last three months.”He said while it is good news, budget law already allocates the first $33.8 million, with $25 million of that going to the state budget reserve. The other monies were set aside in smaller contingency accounts.“This is certainly better than we had anticipated it would be three months ago,” Millett said in an interview. “It is good news and it hopefully is good news about the economy.”Sen. Richard Rosen, R-Bucksport, the co-chairman of the Appropriations Committee said while he had expected a surplus, he did not expect one in the $50 million range.“This revenue surplus is larger that what I expected, “he said. “I think it is encouraging news and that employment is solidifying.” Get it yet Fuhhevuhhh?

  • Anonymous

    It’s the Republican leaders who are holding the rest of us hostage, so millionaires and billionaires can keep the tax breaks awarded them by GW Bush.

    Your notion of cutting welfare as a great idea depends on you being convinced that everyone who gets these benefits is what you call a “layabout.” The amount being paid to fakers is minuscule compared to the revenue reduction created by the tax breaks for billionaires, corporate welfare, and the cost of permanant wars.

    Slashing the social safety net (example: welfare type payments to disabled people) may seem like a good idea IF you can be sure that YOU will never become disabled, and none of your children or grandchildren will be born (or become) disabled, and that you will never lose your job, lose your home, or go into medical bankruptcy. If that happens (and I deeply hope it will not), you will need the social safety net that conservative politicians keep slamming. They are trying to persuade you to cut off your own nose to spite someone else’s face.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    There are MANY who are double dippers.  Retire collect pension and yet keep their jobs within the Maine State Retirement system.  So jobs aren’t being opened up as they should.

  • Anonymous

    You’re up to your eyeballs in trolls. I’m surprised they didn’t make some ignorant remark about this comment. Look up trolls in the Urban Dictionary online. Actually, here’s the link http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll I just searched for Urban Dictionary and the results aren’t that helpful.

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