Twice as many Maine schools may fail to meet federal standards

Posted June 21, 2011, at 8:13 p.m.
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BANGOR, Maine — The number of Maine schools lagging behind federal school improvement requirements will increase drastically this year and might double in poorer areas, according to education officials who said they have never seen such an increase.

Though Maine is not alone in its struggle to keep up with the No Child Left Behind Act, diminishing funding to address the issue will only exacerbate the problem, according to the Maine Department of Education.

The jump in schools that aren’t keeping up with the act — which under the Obama administration is now called the Elementary Secondary Education Act — doesn’t mean that Maine schools are becoming worse, but rather that they aren’t improving as quickly as they need to, said Rachelle Tome, who directs the program in Maine.

“We actually lost half our federal money we had for school improvement,” said Tome. “It’s going to stretch the program very thin.”

Schools that fail to meet the federal requirements for two or more consecutive years fall into a status called Continuous Improvement Priority Schools, or CIPS. That means they are required to work with the Department of Education to improve the situation by redesigning curriculum and training staff.

Tome said the number of Title 1 schools — which receive federal funding because of their size or because more than 35 percent of students qualify for free or reduced lunches — in CIPS status could more than double this year. There are now 50 schools on that list in Maine, and though Tome said the data are “very preliminary” at this point, that number could go as high as 120 for the 2011-12 school year. Better data on non-Title 1 schools will be available later this summer.

“There was an incredible jump,” she said, referring to preliminary data she studied this spring. “The schools are not really getting a chance to catch their breath one year to the next.”

By 2014, the No Child Left Behind Act requires the nation’s schools  to bring all students to proficiency in reading and math, increase attendance in grades three through eight to 96 percent, and graduate 90 percent of high school students. As the years go by, the targets become more difficult to attain.

In the 2011-12 school year, 83 percent of students in grades three through eight and 86 percent of high school students must meet the federal requirements in reading. In math, the targets are 80 percent for grades three through eight and 77 percent in high school.

According to Tome, a majority of CIPS schools in Maine are having trouble meeting the math requirements, though attendance is becoming a factor for some.

“The lens is now getting focused on math,” she said. “The state has spent a lot of time across districts in raising literacy instruction and achievement. I can’t say the same level of attention was given to mathematics because the targets for math were much lower. That’s starting to catch up with us now.”

George Tucker is a member of the Department of Education’s Title 1 School Improvement Team, which is made up of a dozen education experts who help schools develop plans to remove themselves from CIPS status. He said Maine is not alone in its struggles to meet No Child Left Behind requirements, but that its rural nature makes the task more difficult.

“Small schools were able to make adequate yearly progress in the early years, but it’s getting more difficult,” he said. “We have quite a few small schools.”

Consultants hired by the state work with schools for as long as the schools are on the CIPS list. If the schools can’t catch up with the requirements, they face consequences, according to Tome. In the first year, they are required to dedicate 10 percent of their professional development budget to the CIPS plan. A school in the second year of CIPS status is required to tutor every student who lags behind and devote 20 percent of its professional development budget.

Tome said for many schools, those set-aside dollars come out of federal Title 1 money that otherwise probably would be used to hire staff.

“It can be a very cumbersome set-aside for most districts,” she said. “It means there’s less money to distribute to the schools.”

At the state level, Tome said some of the money that in the past would have been spent working with CIPS schools is now being spent on School Improvement Grants, a 2-year-old program in which the Maine Department of Education chooses 10 underperforming schools every year to receive a three-year stream of additional federal funding. Less funding means the CIPS consultants will deal with more schools, said Tome.

Despite the reasons for being on the CIPS list, Tome said most schools see the process in a positive light.

Michael Gallagher, who is the superintendent in SAD 53, which serves Pittsfield, Burnham and Detroit, agreed. Last year, Warsaw Middle School was a CIPS school in math and Vickery Elementary was on the list for both reading and math. Warsaw is off the list and Vickery has made “safe harbor” status in math, which means there was a 10 percent improvement in the number of students meeting No Child Left Behind requirements. In reading, Vickery will enter CIPS III status, though Gallagher said strides are being made.

“It’s nice to get schools off that status,” said Gallagher. “[The program] helped us improve our instruction and focus. It’s a good experience.”

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  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill your TV.

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    Parents: kill the federal department of education!

  • Anonymous

    What’s wrong with the TV?  Nowadays, you can simply hook it up to the computer, go on to YouTube and find programming that will provide your children with an education that puts our current boob-tube generation of teachers to shame.  Why not embrace technology instead of treating it like an obstacle?     

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001043479861 Amy Daley

    Please…the problems with Maine schools are the Unions and the Administrators getting rid of seasoned (veteran) teachers to hire green and unqualified teachers because they cost less.  Case in point is MSAD 37.  A few years ago they had two applicants for a Special Ed teacher position.  The SpEd director interviewed them both.  One a highly qualified educator with a Master’s Degree and the other, a preschool teacher who didn’t even hold an associates.   The reason?  They thought it would be a “better fit” (not to mention it would be $12,000.00 cheaper or it broke the NCLB laws).  Thank goodness the principal resigned the next year, but the school board and the Special Ed director are still there.  Now, this same school is holding back Title I students.  Forget about the fact that they haven’t done RTI or SpEd evals when the kids had difficulty throughout the year.  Districts drop the ball on a regular basis, and those who are in the know and speak up are not renewed.  This is what is the matter with our schools in Maine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001043479861 Amy Daley

    Please…the problems with Maine schools are the Unions and the Administrators getting rid of seasoned (veteran) teachers to hire green and unqualified teachers because they cost less.  Case in point is MSAD 37.  A few years ago they had two applicants for a Special Ed teacher position.  The SpEd director interviewed them both.  One a highly qualified educator with a Master’s Degree and the other, a preschool teacher who didn’t even hold an associates.   The reason?  They thought it would be a “better fit” (not to mention it would be $12,000.00 cheaper or it broke the NCLB laws).  Thank goodness the principal resigned the next year, but the school board and the Special Ed director are still there.  Now, this same school is holding back Title I students.  Forget about the fact that they haven’t done RTI or SpEd evals when the kids had difficulty throughout the year.  Districts drop the ball on a regular basis, and those who are in the know and speak up are not renewed.  This is what is the matter with our schools in Maine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001043479861 Amy Daley

    Please…the problems with Maine schools are the Unions and the Administrators getting rid of seasoned (veteran) teachers to hire green and unqualified teachers because they cost less.  Case in point is MSAD 37.  A few years ago they had two applicants for a Special Ed teacher position.  The SpEd director interviewed them both.  One a highly qualified educator with a Master’s Degree and the other, a preschool teacher who didn’t even hold an associates.   The reason?  They thought it would be a “better fit” (not to mention it would be $12,000.00 cheaper or it broke the NCLB laws).  Thank goodness the principal resigned the next year, but the school board and the Special Ed director are still there.  Now, this same school is holding back Title I students.  Forget about the fact that they haven’t done RTI or SpEd evals when the kids had difficulty throughout the year.  Districts drop the ball on a regular basis, and those who are in the know and speak up are not renewed.  This is what is the matter with our schools in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Amy, none of the things you mentioned is the fault of the Unions.  It is the fault of the superintendent, the school board, and the taxpayers who elect them.  If it were up to the Unions, the highly qualified teacher would have been the choice, but they look for quality and not the bottom line.

  • Anonymous

    you cant be serious .you must have voted for obama.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_II4BGRECXWKAFHRRND4RDCU7QQ Kirk

    get a rid of local assessments and state assessments 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_II4BGRECXWKAFHRRND4RDCU7QQ Kirk

    get a rid of local assessments and state assessments 

  • Anonymous

    Our Schools lacking is a big problem mostly in rural areas. Take SAD. 64.( Bradford, Corinth, Hudson) . These schools are so far behind that they really don’t have a Gym. They have a common room that is used or they have to go to a different school entirely. The children have to eat in there class room because there is no cafeteria. Morrison is over crowded. It caters to 200 students. Governor LePage has the power to change this but he refuses to release the money for the school system to comply. This will bring jobs to this area. Funny how he stated he will create jobs But he is refusing to release the money to do so. He is screwing things up for everyone mostly our  children.   

  • Anonymous

    Our Schools lacking is a big problem mostly in rural areas. Take SAD. 64.( Bradford, Corinth, Hudson) . These schools are so far behind that they really don’t have a Gym. They have a common room that is used or they have to go to a different school entirely. The children have to eat in there class room because there is no cafeteria. Morrison is over crowded. It caters to 200 students. Governor LePage has the power to change this but he refuses to release the money for the school system to comply. This will bring jobs to this area. Funny how he stated he will create jobs But he is refusing to release the money to do so. He is screwing things up for everyone mostly our  children.   

  • Anonymous

    !6 years of cuddling kids by liberals does this to kids.. The kids are not stupid they can only do what they are tought… Heck social issues are taught more in schools today then math/science/english….Let parents teach their kids social isuues and the teachers can teach what they were hired to  teach…   You See what happens when political correctness takes over.. Social garbage!!! Ignorance period!!! School is not about the how the Adults feel, Its all and only about educating Kids

  • Anonymous

    !6 years of cuddling kids by liberals does this to kids.. The kids are not stupid they can only do what they are tought… Heck social issues are taught more in schools today then math/science/english….Let parents teach their kids social isuues and the teachers can teach what they were hired to  teach…   You See what happens when political correctness takes over.. Social garbage!!! Ignorance period!!! School is not about the how the Adults feel, Its all and only about educating Kids

  • Anonymous

    OK…….this comment meant to go here:

    What’s wrong with the TV?  Nowadays, you can simply hook it up to the
    computer, go on to YouTube and find programming that will provide your
    children with an education that puts our current boob-tube generation of
    teachers to shame.  Why not embrace technology instead of treating it
    like an obstacle? 

  • StillRelaxin

    Sadly politicians and school administrators don’t keep their jobs by telling people the truth. To justify their positions they always have to provide “solutions” to our problems. The problem with their solutions is that they are usually very convoluted, expensive, and rarely successfully implemented or connected to anything close to a positive result.  Don’t be fooled by hucksters who don’t give a hoot about your kids. All they want to do is spread your money for themselves or among their friends/political supporters.

    There’s only one real solution to our educational woes, PARENTS who truly care about their children’s education. Get involved in your kids lives and school studies. Pride, hard work, self-worth, and aspirations all “begin” in the home not in schools, on the streets, or through osmotic proximity with a TV, computer, smart phone, or video game. Check their homework, talk to their teachers, and hold them accountable for learning. Otherwise any school they go to will be nothing more than a babysitting service where your kids go to socialize and we will continue to receive the same poor educational results.

  • Anonymous

    quite the contrary.  Obama hates ATM’s, ticket consoles at airports, and other technological advances because they eliminate jobs and breed independence amongst the people.  Now tell a person that they can educate their child on their own to a higher level than they could achieve when relying upon the federal government?  Well, that’s just treason according to Maobama!

  • Anonymous

    quite the contrary.  Obama hates ATM’s, ticket consoles at airports, and other technological advances because they eliminate jobs and breed independence amongst the people.  Now tell a person that they can educate their child on their own to a higher level than they could achieve when relying upon the federal government?  Well, that’s just treason according to Maobama!

  • Anonymous

    Ever watch the movie “Idiocracy”?

    ….Brondo has what plants crave…..Brondo has electrolytes!

  • Anonymous

    Ever watch the movie “Idiocracy”?

    ….Brondo has what plants crave…..Brondo has electrolytes!

  • Anonymous

    Ever watch the movie “Idiocracy”?

    ….Brondo has what plants crave…..Brondo has electrolytes!

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I wonder if they’ve rationalized the standards yet.  A few years ago, under the original formation of NCLB, it was inevitable for most Maine schools to fail because the way the standards were set up, passing required certain minimum test scores for various demographic groups – which were statistically impossible to meet in school districts that didn’t have any students belonging to those groups.  Whoever devised that metric didn’t reckon with the sheer… whiteness… of the great State of Maine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lpilot Lisa Pilot

    Sure.  Then we can rely on folks like those who submit comments here to set the standards for our kids.  NOT.  

  • Anonymous

    How about YOU decide on what the “standards” are for YOUR kids and stop “relying” on other people to do YOUR job mom?

  • Anonymous

    In order to do this, you have to get rid of the entire NCLB law or ESEA as it is now called.  It requires every district test every student.  Personally, I’m all for that.  Let the teachers teach.  

  • Anonymous

    In order to do this, you have to get rid of the entire NCLB law or ESEA as it is now called.  It requires every district test every student.  Personally, I’m all for that.  Let the teachers teach.  

  • Anonymous

    In order to do this, you have to get rid of the entire NCLB law or ESEA as it is now called.  It requires every district test every student.  Personally, I’m all for that.  Let the teachers teach.  

  • Anonymous

    In order to do this, you have to get rid of the entire NCLB law or ESEA as it is now called.  It requires every district test every student.  Personally, I’m all for that.  Let the teachers teach.  

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    The science channel is awesome but why would anyone want their children to learn something? Maybe if children did learn the truth and how things work they might become atheist. So yes, kill your TV because a child might learn the truth about how the universe works.

  • Anonymous

    Let Us try and set a good example for our youth.  Education is something this country has been lagging behind in for many years now.  You cannot have education mandates dictated from Washington DC and put financial burdens on school districts like there have been for decades now.  The best place for a WINDMILL farm, imho, is the beltway around  D.C.  Just think of all the hot air flowing up and down and across the Potomac River.

    Now for the real Problems with the American Education system, you don’t have to go much further then tenured teachers.  Specifically the ones who aren’t GOOD teachers.  BUT they still are allowed to keep their jobs because of tenure.   

    For more information try this:

    http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

    IF BDN won’t let it post then do a search for the words on google or your favorite  s. e.  for these words,  deliberate dumbing down     You just might be amazed with these facts presented by a person that Knows first hand.

    “ayuh,  ya can’t get there from here”

  • Anonymous

    Hang on a minute there… not every family can afford to home school their children. Are you suggesting that single mom’s should quit working and home school? If they did that they’d be you’d be highly critical of that too because they’d have to rely on the system for shelter and food.  Before you judge any mother so harshly for not “doing her job” maybe you should talk to Dad too… maybe he should be considered him at least equal to mom when it comes to the job of raising children.  You have no idea what that woman’s situation is and accusing her of “not doing her job” is totally wrong under the circumstances.  Maybe she would love nothing more than to home school her children but because dad left and doesn’t consider it his responsibility to contribute to the raising of his children, she may be forced to choose to between providing food, clothing, shelter or home schooling for her children.  That’s what wrong with our society today – people lash out in very harsh criticism without thinking… don’t do that just because she’s a mother.  She may be sole provider as well. 

  • Anonymous

    This is not a political issue except for the fact that our political leaders – in addition to many other well known people such as sports players, celebrities, etc.. engage in, demonstrate and through both their words and actions encourage bad behaviors… such as lying, stealing, cheating, bullying, feeling entitled, showing no respect for others, not taking responsibility for their actions,  etc… in full view of everyone, including our children.  This is not a political party problem – it’s a changing society problem whereby people keep lowering their standards to match and become more and more tolerant of disrespectful behaviors. Don’t for a minute think that this new attitude doesn’t influence our youth… Do as I say, not as I do NEVER works.  That’s exactly the approach of many popular and celebrated people.  They don’t even stop to consider how their behaviors affect or influence other people.   We’ve got people on this forum who constantly mimic and condone every distasteful, disrespectful act our dear Governor has engaged in… cussing, bloating, boasting, mocking, insulting, bullying, abusing the power of his position for his own personal wants, etc… You can bet their children mimic them… they learn more by watching their parents, watching our leaders than people give them credit for. Children are naturally sponges for knowledge and information – just look at what their heads are being filled with – the concept that bullying, lying, cheating, disrespecting, mocking, insulting is how our world works, is what it takes to be successful, maybe to become Governor one day…

  • Anonymous

    What ??    Hello, administrators of the school sysytem……I was educated in Hampden, Eddington, Bangor, Hermon schools systems……and, then, joined the military for a few years…..used the G.I Bill and attended 2 colleges in the south after the service…..After having received a Maine education, I am like a BRAIN SURGEON compared to these (rednecks) …..I do not ever feel short-changed in any way….Coming South for winters, I am just AMAZED at the lack of common sense and basic knowledge these folks have in other areas , and one of my pet peeves is the poor standard of customer service..frankly, I would rather shovel snow all winter and spring. than try to deal with these numb-skulls anymore…..Honestly, the entire area of  New England are has it going on with regard to what is flying out and onto the street after graduation…….and we should be passing out AWARDS…..this article is a (fantasy–illusion) to me…..perhaps, on “paper” we are looking poorly, but, in my eyes, this is not the case…..

  • Anonymous

    Hey, Kevin, I know PLENTY, and yet I am no atheist….

  • Anonymous

    This one was the BEST comment here…..and the truest one I read….

  • Anonymous

    The trouble is that the state spends money building world class schools with world class athletic fields and then they lay off teachers.  $200,000,000 for new schools in the Bangor region alone over the last few years.  Hampden at $60,000,000 is the single most expensive school in Maine history!  That money would have bought a lot of computers and paid a lot of teachers.  But hey, the football field is the best!

  • Anonymous

    TV is bad no matter what the content. It’s little more than flashing or flickering lights that stimulates the human flight or flight system over and over and sends cortisol thru the body. Kids who watch TV generally are hyperactive in the body but mentally asleep. They are often fat from inactivity on the couch and the cortisol. 

    Try standing outside your home at night and watch the room where the TV is on. What you see is flashing lights.  How can this be good for the bodies of yourg children?Most young children have no idea of what they’re watching …. studies show that when the sound track is altered to have no relationship to the visuals, kids rarely notice that the two don’t match. Studies also show that families that suffer from generational poverty have the TV on all the time and it’s always too loud. Kids can’t read or do math when watching TV. 

    TV produces dumb, fat and hyperative children which in turn makes for crappy schools. Parents: Try turning off the TV for a year and see the difference.

  • Anonymous

    You obviously took advantage of the education you were offered.
    Sounds like you may have majored in common sense.
    The smartest kid in the county might not stand a chance when confronting disfunction at home.

  • Anonymous

    Because human interaction helps create thought Stimulation rather than Mesmerisation 

  • Anonymous

    Very well stated.  I could not agree with you more.  And, for those parents who claim they don’t have the time or energy, I say that as a working single parent I found the time and energy to invest in my child when he was growing up.  I decided to have my son, and I owed it to him to invest quality time in his life.  It was all worth it. 

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    How about printing the names of all the ”sub-par” schools for everyone to see.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Ms. Daley is grinding an ax with false information … Nah, no one would EVER do that.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Ms. Daley is grinding an ax with false information … Nah, no one would EVER do that.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Ms. Daley is grinding an ax with false information … Nah, no one would EVER do that.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Ms. Daley is grinding an ax with false information … Nah, no one would EVER do that.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Ms. Daley is grinding an ax with false information … Nah, no one would EVER do that.

  • Mr_Spuddy

    Unfortunately, the outcomes expected by the No Child Left Behind Act are not only unrealistic–they are impossible to meet.

  • Mr_Spuddy

    Unfortunately, the outcomes expected by the No Child Left Behind Act are not only unrealistic–they are impossible to meet.

  • Mr_Spuddy

    Unfortunately, the outcomes expected by the No Child Left Behind Act are not only unrealistic–they are impossible to meet.

  • Mr_Spuddy

    Unfortunately, the outcomes expected by the No Child Left Behind Act are not only unrealistic–they are impossible to meet.

  • Mr_Spuddy

    Unfortunately, the outcomes expected by the No Child Left Behind Act are not only unrealistic–they are impossible to meet.

  • Mr_Spuddy

    Unfortunately, the outcomes expected by the No Child Left Behind Act are not only unrealistic–they are impossible to meet.

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “We actually lost half our federal money we had for school improvement,” said Tome. “It’s going to stretch the program very thin.”

    I laughed when I read this.
     
    Fifty years ago when the school consolidation con was first introduced, the folks who were going to make big money building the new buildings got the suckers in our town to vote for consolidation by telling them that “someone else would pay” and that it would be a cheap way to educate children.
     
    Anyone who had raised chickens could see the wisdom in putting all the students into one big centralized building — you’d only need one big grain bin and every chicken would come out exactly the same.
     
    Back then folks didn’t realize that consolidating the schools was even worse than giving away the family farm. Not only did they give away the farm— although they no longer had any say in the operation, they had to pay whatever they were billed.
     
    So you can lay off teachers and cut salaries all around. The only inviolate monies go to the contractors to build more buildings and the service providers who operate things like the food services.
     
    The only way a con game can be successful is if you can convince the suckers that they can get something for nothing.
     
    The education business no longer has anything to do with educating children but with how many things can be privatized or consolidated along the way so someone can make a buck.

    The humble Farmer

  • Anonymous

    I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with?  Kids who don’t come to school ready to learn won’t give you the test scores you need to meet the standard.   I have three kids of my own.  They are all very successful in school because my wife and I have given them  the foundation and support they need.  It’s not rocket science folks.   

    In addition, the best school cultures are created when the best and brightest are working together.  I have seen this first  hand.  In order to attract the best and brightest, ones needs to attract them with compensation.  We also need adequate resources…. you got it – Time and Money.

  • Anonymous

    I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with?  Kids who don’t come to school ready to learn won’t give you the test scores you need to meet the standard.   I have three kids of my own.  They are all very successful in school because my wife and I have given them  the foundation and support they need.  It’s not rocket science folks.   

    In addition, the best school cultures are created when the best and brightest are working together.  I have seen this first  hand.  In order to attract the best and brightest, ones needs to attract them with compensation.  We also need adequate resources…. you got it – Time and Money.

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “I have been an educator for 27 years. I have seen  lots of “educational reform” come and go.  It really all boils down to one thing.  What have  you got coming through the door to work with? ”

    Norman Chase in North Whitefield said it best: “You can’t beat manure and get whipped cream.”

    He used another word for manure.

    The humble Farmer

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • Anonymous

    throw more money at the problem.  That is alway the solution..

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    It is true that Florida is a Third World Country.   Although their Comcast upload speed is about three times faster than Time Warner.

    The humble Farmer

  • Anonymous

    Dear Lak, if you are implying that my home was NOT disfunctional, then, shame on you……I do not have the next 5 weeks to tell you the stories, and may have, indeed, a good case of PTSD  (childhood)……the main reason I have no fear NOW (adulthood) is basically because I have already BEEN there and DONE that…..and came out on the other side……I will simply leave it up to your imagination…….please, NEVER assume…..thanks for your reply….you are a good guy….******(joke)   I could have been a neurologist, if I had not suffered so many blows to the skull…….haha…..still have a black eye….LOL….

  • 525_44

    Unfortunately some kids know absolutely nothing when they enter school and the parent’s think it is the teachers ‘job’ to teach their children everything including how to wash their hands after using the bathroom.

    Education begins at home and providing a solid foundation  for a child’s education is the responsibility of the parent’s.

  • Anonymous

    Then which entity is responsible for the $12,000 annual disparity Amy quoted? In most jobs I know, other than an entry-level person new to the job, there’s not the huge spread between someone on the job of two years, and someone on the job for twenty-two years. However, in Education, the spread his huge.

    I nominate the MEA as behind the disparity with their concerted “merit”, “COLA” annual add-on’s in contract negotiations.

    I recall a beginning teacher in SAD 22 made around $20,000 and a long-term teacher made closer to $40,000. That’s a larger spread than most jobs, and the “unintended consequence” is that older, more-experienced teachers are most often passed over for cheaper, less-experienced applicants.

  • Anonymous

    stop the social indoctrination and go back to teaching the basics.

  • Anonymous

    They are often fat from inactivity on the couch and the cortisol. WOW ,we just found the cause that makes humans democrat.Now if we could just find a cure.

  • Anonymous

    They are often fat from inactivity on the couch and the cortisol. WOW ,we just found the cause that makes humans democrat.Now if we could just find a cure.

  • Anonymous

    They are often fat from inactivity on the couch and the cortisol. WOW ,we just found the cause that makes humans democrat.Now if we could just find a cure.

  • Anonymous

    They are often fat from inactivity on the couch and the cortisol. WOW ,we just found the cause that makes humans democrat.Now if we could just find a cure.

  • Anonymous

    They are often fat from inactivity on the couch and the cortisol. WOW ,we just found the cause that makes humans democrat.Now if we could just find a cure.

  • Anonymous

    They are often fat from inactivity on the couch and the cortisol. WOW ,we just found the cause that makes humans democrat.Now if we could just find a cure.

  • Anonymous

    Anytime someone says FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (says, or approves)  I run for cover…..Keep in mind that Obama had NO credentials to enter ANY of the colleges that he was accepted to….(lackluster record)…and, Sarah Palin attended 4 ( FOUR) colleges just in order to get an under-grad degree…( bachelors)…..4 schools in 4 years…..perhaps, if ( fill-in-the-blank)  cannot get by on his/her brains, then why not BAFFLE ‘em with bull___t……   Ya think ??   To sum it all up, the federal government can play tiddly-winks on my b__tt, if they like……I may move, entirely, just looking for someplace  with clean water to drink ..(no fluoride)…..YeeeHahhh…..Seriously….Looks like they are going crazy with the “free speech” once again…..we gotta use our “filters” , I guess……

  • Anonymous

    Anytime someone says FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (says, or approves)  I run for cover…..Keep in mind that Obama had NO credentials to enter ANY of the colleges that he was accepted to….(lackluster record)…and, Sarah Palin attended 4 ( FOUR) colleges just in order to get an under-grad degree…( bachelors)…..4 schools in 4 years…..perhaps, if ( fill-in-the-blank)  cannot get by on his/her brains, then why not BAFFLE ‘em with bull___t……   Ya think ??   To sum it all up, the federal government can play tiddly-winks on my b__tt, if they like……I may move, entirely, just looking for someplace  with clean water to drink ..(no fluoride)…..YeeeHahhh…..Seriously….Looks like they are going crazy with the “free speech” once again…..we gotta use our “filters” , I guess……

  • Anonymous

    Anytime someone says FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (says, or approves)  I run for cover…..Keep in mind that Obama had NO credentials to enter ANY of the colleges that he was accepted to….(lackluster record)…and, Sarah Palin attended 4 ( FOUR) colleges just in order to get an under-grad degree…( bachelors)…..4 schools in 4 years…..perhaps, if ( fill-in-the-blank)  cannot get by on his/her brains, then why not BAFFLE ‘em with bull___t……   Ya think ??   To sum it all up, the federal government can play tiddly-winks on my b__tt, if they like……I may move, entirely, just looking for someplace  with clean water to drink ..(no fluoride)…..YeeeHahhh…..Seriously….Looks like they are going crazy with the “free speech” once again…..we gotta use our “filters” , I guess……

  • Anonymous

    the unions job is to collect dues and protect bad teachers.

  • Anonymous

    the unions job is to collect dues and protect bad teachers.

  • Anonymous

    the unions job is to collect dues and protect bad teachers.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll take the Honest cussing, .. Over  deceiving panderers any day of the week!! Don’t blame this crap on someone who has been in office for less than 1/2 a school year…  

  • Anonymous

    Has SAD 22 ever hired an inexperienced teacher over an experienced one, simply for money purposes?  The word in Hampden, Winterport, and Newburgh is that the superintendent has always hired the most qualified applicant, regardless of the cost to the district.  If you know someone who had more experience and was passed over for a job, it’s likely the hiring principal deemed an applicant with less experience more qualified, or a better fit for the job and school.  So your example is moot, since there are no “unintended consequences” in SAD 22 to the income disparity.  I think many (not all) school districts in Maine also follow this philosophy.

    Now, all starting teachers in Maine are required by law to make at least $30,000, which is still too small to recruit good college graduates.  By the time these teachers retire, they will have netted their worth, but in the beginning, teachers are drastically underpaid.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if we keep pushing our children to disrespect educators (“greedy union thugs!”, “those who can’t do teach!”) things will get better.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if we keep pushing our children to disrespect educators (“greedy union thugs!”, “those who can’t do teach!”) things will get better.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if we keep pushing our children to disrespect educators (“greedy union thugs!”, “those who can’t do teach!”) things will get better.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if we keep pushing our children to disrespect educators (“greedy union thugs!”, “those who can’t do teach!”) things will get better.

  • Anonymous

    Honest? Not deceiving? Are you serious? This is a man who SNEAKS down a mural late at night that he’s never even seen and claims he did it under the directive of an anonymous fax sender… Really? You buy into this?  You really think this is “honest”?  What about when he boasted that he would tell Obama where to go… and then cowered and muttered that he liked him after he met him.  Honest cussing… what exactly is that?  Haaa… that’s just ridiculous – what’s “honest” about cussing?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    But, how would the Democrats and unions get their next generation of Party members?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    You should have just put a period after “Please…the problems with Maine schools are the Unions and the Administrators”

  • Anonymous

    Is there something wrong with democracies? Or wanting to let people decide for themselves how to live rather than a king or a dictator. Aren’t we a democracy?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    “Welcome to Costco, I love you. Welcome to Costco, I love you. Welcome to Costco, I love you. Welcome to Costco, I love you.”

  • Anonymous

    Every time you capitalize your words you appear to be yelling.  You must have HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE from all the STRESS!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Mmmmm, could some of these schools now be competing to become members of the 10 underperforming school gangs so that they can collect the millions of federal dollars available?   Sumner was one of the first and have enjoyed the additional money, now Ellsworth High is getting the money (in the same RSU).  A stipulation for the money is that they get rid of their principals – EHS just moved theirs to another position in the school. 

    Being on the list of 10 was not supposed to be a good thing, but schools seem to be lining up to be on it for the money.

  • Anonymous

    Mmmmm, could some of these schools now be competing to become members of the 10 underperforming school gangs so that they can collect the millions of federal dollars available?   Sumner was one of the first and have enjoyed the additional money, now Ellsworth High is getting the money (in the same RSU).  A stipulation for the money is that they get rid of their principals – EHS just moved theirs to another position in the school. 

    Being on the list of 10 was not supposed to be a good thing, but schools seem to be lining up to be on it for the money.

  • Anonymous

    These children need to learn to read.   That is the main cause of lack of success.   Focus on that and everything else will fall into place.   More money thrown at the schools is not the answer.   Find schools that use successful reading programs and copy them.

  • Anonymous

    These children need to learn to read.   That is the main cause of lack of success.   Focus on that and everything else will fall into place.   More money thrown at the schools is not the answer.   Find schools that use successful reading programs and copy them.

  • Anonymous

    These children need to learn to read.   That is the main cause of lack of success.   Focus on that and everything else will fall into place.   More money thrown at the schools is not the answer.   Find schools that use successful reading programs and copy them.

  • Anonymous

    These children need to learn to read.   That is the main cause of lack of success.   Focus on that and everything else will fall into place.   More money thrown at the schools is not the answer.   Find schools that use successful reading programs and copy them.

  • Anonymous

    These children need to learn to read.   That is the main cause of lack of success.   Focus on that and everything else will fall into place.   More money thrown at the schools is not the answer.   Find schools that use successful reading programs and copy them.

  • Anonymous

    These children need to learn to read.   That is the main cause of lack of success.   Focus on that and everything else will fall into place.   More money thrown at the schools is not the answer.   Find schools that use successful reading programs and copy them.

  • Bangorme

    The no child left behind program was the typical nanny-state (by the feds) program: good intent, insufficient funding, doesn’t address the issues that cause the problem.  I’d recommend the following: end of tenure, limit public employee bargaining to what the feds have (can’t bargain pay, benefits, assignment), incentives to teachers that teach the lowest performing students and obtain the best results, incentives to teachers that perform well.  The same for the administrators, except I would ban collective bargaining for all administrators.

    Until you do these things, you continue just feeding the unions and stifling performance.  Unions want all employees treated the same.  We need to start rewarding the good ones and getting rid of the bad ones.

  • Bangorme

    The no child left behind program was the typical nanny-state (by the feds) program: good intent, insufficient funding, doesn’t address the issues that cause the problem.  I’d recommend the following: end of tenure, limit public employee bargaining to what the feds have (can’t bargain pay, benefits, assignment), incentives to teachers that teach the lowest performing students and obtain the best results, incentives to teachers that perform well.  The same for the administrators, except I would ban collective bargaining for all administrators.

    Until you do these things, you continue just feeding the unions and stifling performance.  Unions want all employees treated the same.  We need to start rewarding the good ones and getting rid of the bad ones.

  • PabMainer

    It’s amazing how a toddler can be taught and daily learn new things, learn numbers, words, places on maps, colors, memorization etc…..then these same start going to public schools and no one can adequately “teach” these same kids…..and the problem is being blamed on the children by some?? Crazy….

  • PabMainer

    It’s amazing how a toddler can be taught and daily learn new things, learn numbers, words, places on maps, colors, memorization etc…..then these same start going to public schools and no one can adequately “teach” these same kids…..and the problem is being blamed on the children by some?? Crazy….

  • PabMainer

    It’s amazing how a toddler can be taught and daily learn new things, learn numbers, words, places on maps, colors, memorization etc…..then these same start going to public schools and no one can adequately “teach” these same kids…..and the problem is being blamed on the children by some?? Crazy….

  • PabMainer

    It’s amazing how a toddler can be taught and daily learn new things, learn numbers, words, places on maps, colors, memorization etc…..then these same start going to public schools and no one can adequately “teach” these same kids…..and the problem is being blamed on the children by some?? Crazy….

  • PabMainer

    It’s amazing how a toddler can be taught and daily learn new things, learn numbers, words, places on maps, colors, memorization etc…..then these same start going to public schools and no one can adequately “teach” these same kids…..and the problem is being blamed on the children by some?? Crazy….

  • Xerxies

    Release the money you say… Release it from where? Shall we reduce the public safety budget again, or some other mandatory public service? Or shall we dramatically increase property tax and state tax rates to make up the difference? You do realize that money is not just sitting around Augusta waiting to be directed to initiatives that “just come up” don’t you? The problem is, there is no money! We are in the midst of a recession/depression, unemployment rates are the highest we’ve seen in 30 years or better… Wake up will ya!

  • Anonymous

    Why do you blame him for children being uneducated?? They added more money towards education in the last budget… He has been in office what 7/8 months… he is not to blame for this issue… Have you ever looked at his shoes, or his weight??? He maybe wearing a mardens suit… Nice try on blaming our Governor Paul LePage !!! for a problem you probably helped create…

  • Anonymous

    Why do you blame him for children being uneducated?? They added more money towards education in the last budget… He has been in office what 7/8 months… he is not to blame for this issue… Have you ever looked at his shoes, or his weight??? He maybe wearing a mardens suit… Nice try on blaming our Governor Paul LePage !!! for a problem you probably helped create…

  • Anonymous

    Why do you blame him for children being uneducated?? They added more money towards education in the last budget… He has been in office what 7/8 months… he is not to blame for this issue… Have you ever looked at his shoes, or his weight??? He maybe wearing a mardens suit… Nice try on blaming our Governor Paul LePage !!! for a problem you probably helped create…

  • Anonymous

    Why do you blame him for children being uneducated?? They added more money towards education in the last budget… He has been in office what 7/8 months… he is not to blame for this issue… Have you ever looked at his shoes, or his weight??? He maybe wearing a mardens suit… Nice try on blaming our Governor Paul LePage !!! for a problem you probably helped create…

  • Anonymous

    Why do you blame him for children being uneducated?? They added more money towards education in the last budget… He has been in office what 7/8 months… he is not to blame for this issue… Have you ever looked at his shoes, or his weight??? He maybe wearing a mardens suit… Nice try on blaming our Governor Paul LePage !!! for a problem you probably helped create…

  • Anonymous

    School boards again.  The MEA is trying to get all teachers to reach the top of the salary scale in 8 years.  The school boards have been reluctant to do that because it would require paying all teachers what they are worth at 8 years as opposed to 25 or 30.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=611091543 Nicole Thomas

    Totally right on- too much emphasis on the wrong stuff. Sports are great but come on. How far will it get you when you can’t even read?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=611091543 Nicole Thomas

    It is up to the parents to teach their kids that they have value and deserve this education and to help them make the most of it. No amount of drilling all day will matter if their #1 influence at home doesn’t teach them to respect themselves, expect results, and strive for their goals. By example and encouragement, parents need to be doing a lot more to give their kids hope for their own futures, which is something money can’t buy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=611091543 Nicole Thomas

    It is up to the parents to teach their kids that they have value and deserve this education and to help them make the most of it. No amount of drilling all day will matter if their #1 influence at home doesn’t teach them to respect themselves, expect results, and strive for their goals. By example and encouragement, parents need to be doing a lot more to give their kids hope for their own futures, which is something money can’t buy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=611091543 Nicole Thomas

    It is up to the parents to teach their kids that they have value and deserve this education and to help them make the most of it. No amount of drilling all day will matter if their #1 influence at home doesn’t teach them to respect themselves, expect results, and strive for their goals. By example and encouragement, parents need to be doing a lot more to give their kids hope for their own futures, which is something money can’t buy.

  • Anonymous

    “Let parents teach their kids social issues ……………………”

    Who is going to teach the “PARENTS”????

  • Anonymous

    “Let parents teach their kids social issues ……………………”

    Who is going to teach the “PARENTS”????

  • Anonymous

    “Let parents teach their kids social issues ……………………”

    Who is going to teach the “PARENTS”????

  • Anonymous

    “Let parents teach their kids social issues ……………………”

    Who is going to teach the “PARENTS”????

  • Anonymous

    “Let parents teach their kids social issues ……………………”

    Who is going to teach the “PARENTS”????

  • Anonymous

    “Let parents teach their kids social issues ……………………”

    Who is going to teach the “PARENTS”????

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Do you even read what you respond to?  

  • Anonymous

    Oh…you know what grades the President got in high school?  Perhaps they were quite good….you probably don’t have foolproof knowledge otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    Oh…you know what grades the President got in high school?  Perhaps they were quite good….you probably don’t have foolproof knowledge otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    Oh…you know what grades the President got in high school?  Perhaps they were quite good….you probably don’t have foolproof knowledge otherwise.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    If the United States spent as much on education as it dose of foreign wars, and gifts to countries that view us as sucker-supreme, we would have the best educated population on the planet.   Currently we stand at number 34.  Not bad for an “average” Nation, but I like to think my Country can do far better.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    Massachusetts had a literacy rate of 98% before the implementation of mandatory public education.   after that, it never went over 90% again.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    Massachusetts had a literacy rate of 98% before the implementation of mandatory public education.   after that, it never went over 90% again.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    Massachusetts had a literacy rate of 98% before the implementation of mandatory public education.   after that, it never went over 90% again.

  • Anonymous

    Blame the parents for not valuing education or making those kids go to school.  Schools are on the receiving end from the homes.  When more parents actually parent, get engaged with their kids, ask them about their day, give them a quiet place to study and show their children that education is something very important and should be valued, THEN things in this country will start to improve.

    Sure there are bad teachers out there (and bad doctors and dentists and waiters and electricians, etc), but the primary issues surrounding the education of our country’s children are outside of school (you know, where kids are the other 18 hours a day, and during the summer).

    Too many parents want to be their child’s “friend,” as opposed to parenting.  I work in education and can’t tell you how many times, if a kid is struggling in a subject (for example, math), the parent comes in and will say (in front of the kid typically) “well, I was never any good at math either.”

    Well, why don’t we just excuse away your kid’s grades (which could be low for a variety of reasons but typically it boils down to ……kid won’t do the homework, won’t study for the tests and then when he/she doesn’t do well, it is OK because mom or dad just gave them the way out because “they weren’t any good at math either”

    The disintegration of the family structure in this country is MUCH more of an issue for kids’ learning than the public education system.

  • Anonymous

    and what was the percentage of 2 parent households back then?

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    “Our Schools lacking is a big problem mostly in rural areas. Take SAD. 64.( Bradford, Corinth, Hudson) . These schools are so far behind that they really don’t have a Gym. They have a common room that is used or they have to go to a different school entirely. The children have to eat in there class room because there is no cafeteria.”
     
    Here’s another example of someone who has been conditioned to believe that a new building is all that is needed to provide a good education.
     
    The school I attended had no running water. We went to a nearby well and lugged in water in a bucket. We ate the dinner we brought from home at our desks. There was a big wood stove in the middle of the room. There were two doors at the back of the room — one for girls, one for boys. At recess, we climbed the trees in the woods out back. In spite of all this the boy who sat behind me somehow managed to retire as president of the Pratt and Whitney plant.

    The humble Farmer

  • Anonymous

    Amen!  Yes, self esteem is SO much more important than actually learning something.  We desperately need to get back to basics in education, but No, we can’t do that.  Kids need to have all of these choices so they don’t “get bored,” because, after all, it is more important to entertain the students than actually ensure they know multiplication tables, parts of speech, etc.

    The liberals and so many parents want to ensure that self esteem is most important.  Yeah, tell that to the other countries whose kids are better prepared than ours coming out of school.

    Our schools are in a reactionary mode – reacting to parent demands.  Parents need to focus on valuing education, reading with their children at home, ensure that their kids value education.  You send kids like that to school (and make sure they actually go to school and don’t miss 40 days a year), then the rest of the equation, honestly, is very easy.

    For the most part, when you see high test scores (Cape Elizabeth, Falmouth, Hampden, etc), you think their teachers are somehow magically better than those in other areas (I would say they absolutely are not).  What communities like that have in common is a higher percentage of educated parents/2 parent households where education is more valued, and doing well is expected of their child.

  • Anonymous

    Go to a few school board meetings around budget time.  People in the audience get MUCH more animated if cutting sports is mentioned.  Yet, teaching positions can routinely be trimmed, and parents sit quiet.  Of course, way too many parents are reliving high school through their kids’ sports accomplishments. 

    This is a sad but very true reality for schools and communities these days.  Sports should complement sound education, not become the focus.

  • Anonymous

    Go to a few school board meetings around budget time.  People in the audience get MUCH more animated if cutting sports is mentioned.  Yet, teaching positions can routinely be trimmed, and parents sit quiet.  Of course, way too many parents are reliving high school through their kids’ sports accomplishments. 

    This is a sad but very true reality for schools and communities these days.  Sports should complement sound education, not become the focus.

  • Anonymous

    Parenting in poor districts is still way more important than rather a school “really don’t have a gym”

    Kids don’t need $60 mil schools, they need caring parents who value education and who set expectations for their child.  This is probably 75% of the equation for successful students.

  • Anonymous

    Parenting in poor districts is still way more important than rather a school “really don’t have a gym”

    Kids don’t need $60 mil schools, they need caring parents who value education and who set expectations for their child.  This is probably 75% of the equation for successful students.

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree…..I homeschooled one of my children. The results were awesome. A learning experience in itself for me. Your children are alot more capable then many teachers lead you to believe. The greatest lesson you can teach your children about their education….. and they had better get it by middle school….  is that their education is also their responsibility. They need to enjoy learning. They need to understand what they are learning. Children have different learning styles and you need to find out what that is and work with it but to incorporate other learning styles into their learning. Supplement your children’s school work. There is alot of educational material out there. Find out where your children’s weak points are by finding diagnostic testing on line or through homeschooling curriculums and give it to them and supplement to fill in the gaps. Many children, because of learning styles cannot move on without filling in the gaps. It just won’t connect for them. You’ll be amazed how a child will change when he realizes he or she can learn. You’ll have a much more confident child and less frustrated child. Please…take the education of your child seriously.

  • Anonymous

    These so-called “sub-par” schools are NOT sub-par in anything but the results of juniors taking the SATs.   A good number of these kids simply don’t care about taking this long and dreary test…they come in about 7:30 am and don’t get to leave till about 1:00 pm.   Basically it comes down to stamina and motivation.   I agree with all the postings that many parents don’t support their children’s education, either.   Kids will go the restroom called Mom or Dad to get picked up because they owe work, are sleepy, or simply want to hang with their other friends who didn’t even go to school….   Also, all of you writing negatively about MEA don’t know “jack!”   Maine’s unions are the most impotent unions I’ve ever seen.  And you can get rid off poor quality tenured teachers — basically they’re put on an improvement plan and monitored.  If necessary changes aren’t made, they are let go.     

  • Anonymous

    These so-called “sub-par” schools are NOT sub-par in anything but the results of juniors taking the SATs.   A good number of these kids simply don’t care about taking this long and dreary test…they come in about 7:30 am and don’t get to leave till about 1:00 pm.   Basically it comes down to stamina and motivation.   I agree with all the postings that many parents don’t support their children’s education, either.   Kids will go the restroom called Mom or Dad to get picked up because they owe work, are sleepy, or simply want to hang with their other friends who didn’t even go to school….   Also, all of you writing negatively about MEA don’t know “jack!”   Maine’s unions are the most impotent unions I’ve ever seen.  And you can get rid off poor quality tenured teachers — basically they’re put on an improvement plan and monitored.  If necessary changes aren’t made, they are let go.     

  • Anonymous

    These so-called “sub-par” schools are NOT sub-par in anything but the results of juniors taking the SATs.   A good number of these kids simply don’t care about taking this long and dreary test…they come in about 7:30 am and don’t get to leave till about 1:00 pm.   Basically it comes down to stamina and motivation.   I agree with all the postings that many parents don’t support their children’s education, either.   Kids will go the restroom called Mom or Dad to get picked up because they owe work, are sleepy, or simply want to hang with their other friends who didn’t even go to school….   Also, all of you writing negatively about MEA don’t know “jack!”   Maine’s unions are the most impotent unions I’ve ever seen.  And you can get rid off poor quality tenured teachers — basically they’re put on an improvement plan and monitored.  If necessary changes aren’t made, they are let go.     

  • Anonymous

    These so-called “sub-par” schools are NOT sub-par in anything but the results of juniors taking the SATs.   A good number of these kids simply don’t care about taking this long and dreary test…they come in about 7:30 am and don’t get to leave till about 1:00 pm.   Basically it comes down to stamina and motivation.   I agree with all the postings that many parents don’t support their children’s education, either.   Kids will go the restroom called Mom or Dad to get picked up because they owe work, are sleepy, or simply want to hang with their other friends who didn’t even go to school….   Also, all of you writing negatively about MEA don’t know “jack!”   Maine’s unions are the most impotent unions I’ve ever seen.  And you can get rid off poor quality tenured teachers — basically they’re put on an improvement plan and monitored.  If necessary changes aren’t made, they are let go.     

  • Anonymous

    SAD 22 has a lot of very good, long-term experienced teachers. They make a good chunk of change. They also have some very good younger teachers that are hired by the teachers, not just the school board. They start out making half as much. I had an English teacher who actually hired a teacher that I ended up having the next year. Both are still there and are some of the best teachers I’ve had. 

    SAD 22 also has some of the highest paid admins in the state. The superintendent is the 3rd highest paid in the state at $125K, the principal at HA is paid around $90-95K, the assistant principal is paid $85K, and the AD gets around $80K (though the position is being reconfigured into a asst. principal/AD).  

  • Anonymous

    loyalsoxfan, not everyone gets to go to schools where they have the funding like Bangor, Hampden, Hermon etc. When my dad retired and I went from a school in NC to ME it took until my Sophmore year for me to be challenged. The south has way better education compared to the majority of Maine and I am in the military as well and have plenty of people from different areas and unless that person is just dumb I can tell what kind of education they recieved. Hell my high school has gone down the drain along with the surronding areas so whats on “paper” is true.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    Let’s face facts.  schools were created so employers could get both parents to work without having to worry about their children…. glorified babysitting service.  We need to make school a option for those who want to be there.  It is so stupid to make children and parents, who do not support school, as a concept< fit into the education box.  Make them work a couple of years after grade 8 and see if maybe they would LIKE to return to school.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    ….and as long as “teachers” and school administrators see children as “sh*t” they will have a real problem teaching them.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, if every voter was educated and informed there would be no stopping the democrats.  It is better if we teach our kids at home that the earth is 10,000 years old, if we can keep them ignorant and stupid, we could elect more republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, if every voter was educated and informed there would be no stopping the democrats.  It is better if we teach our kids at home that the earth is 10,000 years old, if we can keep them ignorant and stupid, we could elect more republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, if every voter was educated and informed there would be no stopping the democrats.  It is better if we teach our kids at home that the earth is 10,000 years old, if we can keep them ignorant and stupid, we could elect more republicans.

  • Anonymous

    I spend at least 1/10 of my salary on items for my students.  Don’t call me a greedy union thug!
    “Those who can teach, those who can’t create education laws and policy.” People like you create more problems in education instead of working to improve the system.

  • Anonymous

    It was sarcasm, bonhomme. 

  • Anonymous

    I figured it was, but responded the way I did because there are lots of folk out there with that perception.  Educators are getting less and less support.  If a parent complains enough about a consequence or a standard their child is being held to, the admin. supports the parent thus, the educator loses the ability to uphold the standard everyone seems to want to achieve.

  • Anonymous

    I figured it was, but responded the way I did because there are lots of folk out there with that perception.  Educators are getting less and less support.  If a parent complains enough about a consequence or a standard their child is being held to, the admin. supports the parent thus, the educator loses the ability to uphold the standard everyone seems to want to achieve.

  • Anonymous

    I figured it was, but responded the way I did because there are lots of folk out there with that perception.  Educators are getting less and less support.  If a parent complains enough about a consequence or a standard their child is being held to, the admin. supports the parent thus, the educator loses the ability to uphold the standard everyone seems to want to achieve.

  • Anonymous

    I figured it was, but responded the way I did because there are lots of folk out there with that perception.  Educators are getting less and less support.  If a parent complains enough about a consequence or a standard their child is being held to, the admin. supports the parent thus, the educator loses the ability to uphold the standard everyone seems to want to achieve.

  • Anonymous

    I figured it was, but responded the way I did because there are lots of folk out there with that perception.  Educators are getting less and less support.  If a parent complains enough about a consequence or a standard their child is being held to, the admin. supports the parent thus, the educator loses the ability to uphold the standard everyone seems to want to achieve.

  • Anonymous

    My problem is that you consistently argue  in your many postings that the single solution  to all of our problems in education rests with parental involvement as if teachers are somehow only passive agents in the process.  Teachers have a central role to play in education and it should not be minimized.  You can fit teacher performance on a bell curve with extremely poor and outstanding teachers as outliers on the curve.  We should endeavor to shift the curve to the right – that is produce more effective teachers.  Parents are important -no doubt, but so are teachers.  The following link might interest you  “Teacher training bill would cause education revolution”  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57582.html

  • Anonymous

    My problem is that you consistently argue  in your many postings that the single solution  to all of our problems in education rests with parental involvement as if teachers are somehow only passive agents in the process.  Teachers have a central role to play in education and it should not be minimized.  You can fit teacher performance on a bell curve with extremely poor and outstanding teachers as outliers on the curve.  We should endeavor to shift the curve to the right – that is produce more effective teachers.  Parents are important -no doubt, but so are teachers.  The following link might interest you  “Teacher training bill would cause education revolution”  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57582.html

  • Anonymous

    It’s difficult to believe that universal literacy in Massachusetts was that high in 1852, so please cite your source.

  • Anonymous

    It’s difficult to believe that universal literacy in Massachusetts was that high in 1852, so please cite your source.

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