Negotiations continue on two fronts to save Katahdin mills

By Kevin Miller and Nick Sambides Jr., BDN staff

Posted June 14, 2011, at 9:05 p.m.

AUGUSTA, Maine — Investors who recently bought a Baileyville mill were

negotiating Tuesday to purchase two Katahdin region paper mills even as lawmakers and LePage administration officials scrambled to win support for a bill deemed critical to the potential sale.

Dan Whyte, vice president of Brookfield Asset Management, the current owner of the two Katahdin Paper mills, told the Bangor Daily News that talks “are in progress” to sell the facilities to International Grand Investors Corp. of Delaware for $1.

Part of a Hong Kong-based holding company, IGIC is a company registered for business in Delaware that represents international investors in pulp trade and imports.

If the sale goes through — and parties stressed Tuesday that nothing was final — it would be IGIC’s second major mill acquisition in Maine since September, when the firm purchased the former Domtar pulp mill in Baileyville for $64 million.

Adrienne Bennett, spokeswoman for Gov. Paul LePage, declined to comment on possible ongoing negotiations but said the administration is optimistic about finding a new buyer for the mills.

Rep. Herbert Clark, D-Millinocket, said that he had heard that IGIC was among the

investors interested in possibly buying the mills and that its representatives

visited the mills Tuesday.

Meanwhile, Clark was part of a feverish lobbying effort in the State House on Tuesday aiming to build support for a landfill sale that the proponents insist is crucial to a potential mill deal and, therefore, the fate of up to 600 jobs.

“There will be no deal with a potential buyer without the landfill bill,” Millinocket Town Manger Eugene Conlogue said Tuesday while waiting for lawmakers to take up the measure. “This is a very important bill if the Katahdin region is going to remain economically viable.”

Located in East Millinocket, the Dolby landfill is a sticking point in negotiations over the two mills for prospective buyers that do not want to be saddled with the financial and environmental liability of operating, maintaining and eventually closing the landfill.

Gov. Paul LePage proposed a bill, LD 1567, that would allow the state to purchase and continue operating the nearly fully Dolby landfill, removing a potential obstacle to saving mills that have been the region’s economic backbone for generations.

The Senate gave the bill initial approval on Monday. But questions remain about whether supporters can garner the two-thirds majority needed in both chambers to send the measure to LePage’s desk.

Democrats and some Republicans have raised serious concerns about the state assuming the environmental liability of an aging landfill. They also point out that the current bill contains no guarantees that a new buyer will preserve or create jobs at the mill.

On Tuesday, bill sponsor Sen. Thomas Saviello, R-Wilton, was busily working with Senate Democrats on an amendment to address those concerns. That amendment would cap the state’s liability at $17 million and hand ownership of the landfill back to Brookfield if the sale ultimately falters.

But time is running out for the bill as lawmakers aim to wrap up the 2011 legislative session this week.

Underscoring the sensitivity and uncertainty surrounding the bill, Conlogue and about a half-dozen representatives from the Katahdin region scrapped their other plans on Tuesday after getting a call from the governor’s office. Instead, the group traveled to Augusta to talk with legislators.

Meanwhile, mill workers and families back in Millinocket are closely watching developments in Augusta.

“I hope the legislature does the right thing,” said Duane Lugdon, a United Steelworkers Union representative. “It’s important to put these people in that region back to work.”

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Anonymous

….what a beautiful tale of a failed centralized form of government and dependence. Be sure to thin of this, along with Jefferson, Washington, Madison, et. al., on your upcoming independence day celebration folks.

oh, and BTW, good luck with the mills, your jobs, and your prostrate position before your state overlords, as you are begging for an existence.
Anonymous

Let us Pray, Dear Lord please help with the purchase of the mills and may the new company invest in the mills and the community, the people has suffered greatly in these towns and need your blessings, Thank you Father, Amen…
Anonymous

signed, the Humble Farmer……(and Lynn14)
Anonymous

Where is the outrage from the Tea-Drinkers about tax money being used to bail out a private business?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

Awesome news! The holding company is based in Hong Kong, China, and already owns the Domtar mill. Our failed economy and out-of-control national debt continues to allow foreign and hostile countries increasing ownership of real estate in the United States.

Do the people of the Millinocket area really want to be employees of the Chinese Government?

Obama must be smiling tonight. The Cloward–Piven strategy is moving forward toward global redistribution of wealth; our wealth.

If anyone is interested in understanding why this is happening, here’s the link. In the mean time, I am suggesting to my kids that they start taking classes in Chinese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

Awesome news! The holding company is based in Hong Kong, China, and already owns the Domtar mill. Our failed economy and out-of-control national debt continues to allow foreign and hostile countries increasing ownership of real estate in the United States.

Do the people of the Millinocket area really want to be employees of the Chinese Government?

Obama must be smiling tonight. The Cloward–Piven strategy is moving forward toward global redistribution of wealth; our wealth.

If anyone is interested in understanding why this is happening, here’s the link. In the mean time, I am suggesting to my kids that they start taking classes in Chinese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

Awesome news! The holding company is based in Hong Kong, China, and already owns the Domtar mill. Our failed economy and out-of-control national debt continues to allow foreign and hostile countries increasing ownership of real estate in the United States.

Do the people of the Millinocket area really want to be employees of the Chinese Government?

Obama must be smiling tonight. The Cloward–Piven strategy is moving forward toward global redistribution of wealth; our wealth.

If anyone is interested in understanding why this is happening, here’s the link. In the mean time, I am suggesting to my kids that they start taking classes in Chinese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
Anonymous

Well perhaps if we had Cutler in there for the Governor we’d be all set, he’s got those Chinese connections ya know!
Anonymous

LMAO….what a d-bag comment. So please enlighten us on how well the auto company bailouts are working? How’s that home mortgage loan bailout plan workin’ for yah?

Why get outraged? The weight of the failed policies of central economic planning will crush your feeble attempt to steer human innovation and creativity at every bend in the road. We see the collapse coming. We are prepared. The question is, are you?
Anonymous

if given the choice of sending trillions of tax dollars to iraq and afghanistan on a misguided pipe dream or spending a few million in an attempt to keep a few jobs for these towns, i would choose the latter….i read a recent article in which something like 7 billion in iraq is unaccounted for….so imho, the money to help these mills is chump change….
Anonymous

One $******dollar of theirs and $17 million of ours in limited liabilities. Right out of the Wharton School and another China grab of our ass***s! Whoopee.
Anonymous

Sure, I agree we should have never sent troops or money toward Iraq or Afghanistan. At the same time, I also feel we should not spend one penny of taxpayer dollars on what is supposed to be a private enterprise, such as a paper mill. It wasn’t my choice in either way. Unfortunately, you have put your faith in a strong centralized government in both instances and have come out a loser. No surprise to me.
Anonymous

keep begging the government for your jobs back folks……just guess what the result will be in the end?
Anonymous

LMAO….the BDN editors couldn’t handle someone who writes a bit better than they do and challenges their intellectual capacity so they simply chose to delete my comment to which Mr. West replied. If the editors, or perhaps the “monitors” feel they actually have a mind and are not simply drones to a political ideology (i.e. mind slaves), perhaps they could offer their own pound of sand to the discussion?

Yeah, I thought not…..
Anonymous

the mortgage meldown of 2008 is still haunting the entire us economy……left alone, private enterprise isn’t always the answer…..
Anonymous

the mortgage meldown of 2008 is still haunting the entire us economy……left alone, private enterprise isn’t always the answer…..
Anonymous

the mortgage meldown of 2008 is still haunting the entire us economy……left alone, private enterprise isn’t always the answer…..
Anonymous

the mortgage meldown of 2008 is still haunting the entire us economy……left alone, private enterprise isn’t always the answer…..
Anonymous

the mortgage meldown of 2008 is still haunting the entire us economy……left alone, private enterprise isn’t always the answer…..
Anonymous

the mortgage meldown of 2008 is still haunting the entire us economy……left alone, private enterprise isn’t always the answer…..
http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

… Yeah. I’m not even touchin’ this one.
Anonymous

As concerned Mainers, we have to say NO to buying a landfill in any economic conditions. Especially now. We are going to get screwed while the Chinese government wins. NO WAY MAINERS…. Think about it.
Anonymous

I notice you dont leave the house much? Embarassment I presume.
Anonymous

As concerned Mainers we need to say YES. This companys allready employees hundreds in the state who pay taxes. Who in return pays for your welfare check. Get a life and a job and get off here and stop your whining. The only CONCERN you have is where your next handout will come from.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OPAW6MFKY2SIYUQYNRYFVIR3V4 Retiree

Just what I want my taxes to pay for is a Landfil created by someone else. How about we stop paying taxes? What would be the vote on that? I would hope it would be the same for the landfil ( NO ) ( NO )
Anonymous

The landfill belongs to Brookfield, they bought it when they bought the Dams, if the state of Maine needs to buy it to keep people working in the area for a bit longer the Dams need to be part of that purchase or Brookfield needs to maintain responsibility for the landfill……..it’s the only way Maine should enter into any agreement involving the landfill..period.
Anonymous

I do hope that if the mill re opens the unions go bye bye…If you look back at the last 30 or so years, the Union leadership at the mills asked for a lot to the point where they were some of the highest paid employees in Maine and in the end their children got nothing.
Anonymous

I can’t see going along with this with no conditions involved. This company may only be interested in making pulp to ship to China. That is what they are doing in Baileyville. They can make paper over there cheaper where there are no polution laws, employee insurance, workman’s comp or taxes. I hope this turns out for the best up there for these folks but lets hope this does not turn out like Old Town with less than 1/3 of the people back to work and the state stuck with another land fill.
Anonymous

If there are 600 jobs involved up there, instead of the state spending 46 million to take care of that land fill we could give those 600 people almost $80,ooo each for the same money and let Brookfield pay for the land fill. Everybody up there could pay off the mortgage, all the bills and Brookfield gets some much earned payback.
Anonymous

If there are 600 jobs involved up there, instead of the state spending 46 million to take care of that land fill we could give those 600 people almost $80,ooo each for the same money and let Brookfield pay for the land fill. Everybody up there could pay off the mortgage, all the bills and Brookfield gets some much earned payback.
Anonymous

If there are 600 jobs involved up there, instead of the state spending 46 million to take care of that land fill we could give those 600 people almost $80,ooo each for the same money and let Brookfield pay for the land fill. Everybody up there could pay off the mortgage, all the bills and Brookfield gets some much earned payback.
Anonymous

I hope the people of Millinocket appreciate this bailout by the taxpayers of the State of Maine, including those in the area they call “Northern Massatchusetts” (whom pay the majority of taxes in the state).
Anonymous

I hope the people of Millinocket appreciate this bailout by the taxpayers of the State of Maine, including those in the area they call “Northern Massatchusetts” (whom pay the majority of taxes in the state).
Anonymous

I hope the people of Millinocket appreciate this bailout by the taxpayers of the State of Maine, including those in the area they call “Northern Massatchusetts” (whom pay the majority of taxes in the state).
Anonymous

I hope the people of Millinocket appreciate this bailout by the taxpayers of the State of Maine, including those in the area they call “Northern Massatchusetts” (whom pay the majority of taxes in the state).
Anonymous

I hope the people of Millinocket appreciate this bailout by the taxpayers of the State of Maine, including those in the area they call “Northern Massatchusetts” (whom pay the majority of taxes in the state).
Anonymous

the auto companies are repaying their bailout money. This money will never get repaid.
Anonymous

the auto companies are repaying their bailout money. This money will never get repaid.
Anonymous

the auto companies are repaying their bailout money. This money will never get repaid.
Anonymous

the auto companies are repaying their bailout money. This money will never get repaid.
Anonymous

the auto companies are repaying their bailout money. This money will never get repaid.
Anonymous

that probably would be a better use of money in the long run. “downsize” Millinocket to a small tourist stop on the way to Baxter and buy up homes and relocate people somewhere with a more diverse economy.
Anonymous

)ne concern I have with this landfill “deal” is I haven’t heard anything about the State keeping it open for “X” number of years to accept waste from the nearby running paper mills. I hope it’s not because State leaders realize that no landfill is needed because there will be no nearby running paper mill that needs it? What are these new owners going to do with their waste? They absolutely need a nearby place to dispose of it cheaply. Also no talk about the State actually expanding the landfill to accept waste from the hopefully stable long running paper mill. There are alot of things that don’t “add up” with this landfill deal. Accepting further waste is one of them.
Anonymous

Another observation – nothing has been mentioned in the article about the draconian tax breaks sought from the towns. This new outfit doesn’t want the tax breaks? Perhaps this new outfit doesn’t need the tax breaks, as the mill in its current taxable state isn’t going to be around long? My concern with this chinese outfit is their focus is pulp. Why would you want to make paper with the unfavorable cost structure that these mills have? It doesn’t make sense, unless these chinese intend for these paper machines to take a nice long trip on a big boat. Not insisting on the tax breaks strongly suggests that they are not important, as the new outfit knows the taxable value of those mills are going to plummet when those paper machines say “Bon Voyage”. I hate to sound so negative, but these mills absolutely need to be sold to someone who will run them, not someone who will scrap them. Keep the scrap thieves out!
Anonymous

Another observation – nothing has been mentioned in the article about the draconian tax breaks sought from the towns. This new outfit doesn’t want the tax breaks? Perhaps this new outfit doesn’t need the tax breaks, as the mill in its current taxable state isn’t going to be around long? My concern with this chinese outfit is their focus is pulp. Why would you want to make paper with the unfavorable cost structure that these mills have? It doesn’t make sense, unless these chinese intend for these paper machines to take a nice long trip on a big boat. Not insisting on the tax breaks strongly suggests that they are not important, as the new outfit knows the taxable value of those mills are going to plummet when those paper machines say “Bon Voyage”. I hate to sound so negative, but these mills absolutely need to be sold to someone who will run them, not someone who will scrap them. Keep the scrap thieves out!
Anonymous

It would be great to get these good people back to work however, we should obtain an agreement from the potential buyers that they will put X amount of people from that area back to work. Otherwise, the purchaser may do othert things with the plant and equipment and jobs are not in the cards.
Anonymous

It would be a terrible thing for the State of Maine to take on this liability. Brookfield Asset Management, who is responsible for the waste in the landfill, should be responsible for the cost of properly closing the landfill. Even if the Legislature amends this bill, it is the wrong thing to do. They want to limit our liability to $17M when we have just cut so many services and benefits to us Mainers. Is this how we are going to keep/bring businesses to Maine — on the backs of us Maine taxpayers? This would be a bad example of bad governing. I have sympathy for the peope of Millinocket, however, this is the wrong road to go down.
Anonymous

This is a bad deal and it will fall apart. It may be OK for the state to buy the landfill, but it must come with iron clad commitments to create jobs, a substantial investment in the mills and a real penalty if either fails to happen. Those conditions will sink the deal. Without some real commitment it likely the result will be some short term jobs, the state assuming ownership of a landfill and the mills will close again. We’ll be back in this position before you know it.

If anyone is willing to sell the mills for a $1 you know something is not right. It is not clear from the article that the mills will produce paper or just pulp and we need more information. Another poster may had have it right where the intention is too produce pulp to send to modern plants in Asia. If that is what’s going to happen then we really need to identify what types of jobs are we talking about.

Allowing the environment to be destroyed for low wage jobs that sends raw materials to Asia would be a high price to pay. The area needs to diversify with industry and jobs that benefits the local economy and not be a pawn in the global economy.
Anonymous

John Baldacci bought the West old Town dump in order to keep the Old Town Mill running… Then John leased it to Cassela for 30 years… When the lease runs out and the Dump is filled to the clouds, Maine get’s it Back, hahaha You can’t make this stuff up…
Anonymous

so you don’t think that the state will end up with the landfill anyway?? if this company is willing to sell these mills for a dollar what is stopping them to file bankruptsy and or let the towns or the state end up with this buildings that will end up in the scrapyard and the state will end up cleaning up the landfill anyway. you bet that this company has incorporated itself and insulated itself with the chance that this might happen.

so the state might as well take it now and put people back to work and get some taxes out of it and the people. who cares if the chinese get these mills, it is our chance to get some money back from them for all the money we send to china.
Anonymous

there is no outrage because they are smart enough to understand business
Anonymous

there is no outrage because they are smart enough to understand business
Anonymous

there is no outrage because they are smart enough to understand business
Anonymous

there is no outrage because they are smart enough to understand business
Anonymous

half of something is better than half of nothing. let us face it. it will never be what it once was but let us try and make something out of it. there is a ripple effect on the whole area even if they are still just making pulp, from the truckers to the gas stations, stores, restaurants, landlords etc etc.
Anonymous

half of something is better than half of nothing. let us face it. it will never be what it once was but let us try and make something out of it. there is a ripple effect on the whole area even if they are still just making pulp, from the truckers to the gas stations, stores, restaurants, landlords etc etc.
Anonymous

half of something is better than half of nothing. let us face it. it will never be what it once was but let us try and make something out of it. there is a ripple effect on the whole area even if they are still just making pulp, from the truckers to the gas stations, stores, restaurants, landlords etc etc.
Anonymous

half of something is better than half of nothing. let us face it. it will never be what it once was but let us try and make something out of it. there is a ripple effect on the whole area even if they are still just making pulp, from the truckers to the gas stations, stores, restaurants, landlords etc etc.
Anonymous

Asians taking over the schools…..Asians taking over the mills…..Asians. Asians.Asians……This is America people. Lets find our own backbone and take control. America has had tough times before, and did not run to Asia to solve them….This is not the answer. Unemployed or not, we (Americans) must take control of our destiny…..It was corporate sellouts who got you into this mess. have you not learned anything up there?? Please find a better solution!!!We are great people…….
Anonymous

Check your facts these mills are the lowest pain in the US. Just in Maine other mills are paying 4-5 dollars more per hour and they have a pension we did not they also are not paying 170 per week for there health insurance.
Anonymous

We need all new leaders in this state !!!Look were this state has gone with the one’s we’ve had for years ?There all sell outs!
Anonymous

DO NOT SELL THE MILL TO CHINA, We would be better off scrapping the mill.
China is not our friend and will do anything to do us harm.
Anonymous

DO NOT SELL THE MILL TO CHINA, We would be better off scrapping the mill.
China is not our friend and will do anything to do us harm.
Anonymous

DO NOT SELL THE MILL TO CHINA, We would be better off scrapping the mill.
China is not our friend and will do anything to do us harm.
Anonymous

DO NOT SELL THE MILL TO CHINA, We would be better off scrapping the mill.
China is not our friend and will do anything to do us harm.
Anonymous

Based on the way that Baileyville is being run now(as a pulp producer) your vision looks more accurate than the vision that Milli and East Milli would be operated as a paper producer. Pulping is [environmentally] by far the dirtiest part of the papermaking process. Reconstituting pulp to stock to run on a paper machine is relatively clean, environmentally speaking. I expect that any papermaking equipment would be moved offshore, retaining the environmental permits and pulping capacity in Milli considering the ready availability of raw materials. As a result, I don’t believe we’re looking at 600 jobs retained, likely more in the area of 200-250.
Anonymous

When the mill finally does restart, it will because of the people like Conlogue, Clark & LePage.

Considering the “close ties” that Michaud has with area residents, his “years of economic development” and “good will” he has exhibited to those that have suffered by an economy that was clearly not “Obamas fault” he should not worry that his approval numbers are tanking….
Anonymous

This is an international holding company…. Quite a few of these holding companies were founded by american entities and this one is registered to do business in Delaware (no surprise). This is good news for the region and can be equated to ‘bringing back home the bacon’….

Businesses such as rail and the new ports deals will benefit as will others (construction trades etc. to rehabilitate and upgrade the mills)… Folks, this is all about jobs and the economy. I know someone who works here (US) for a China based logistics company and the benefits and pay are very good. Do not let old perceptions (and that is just what they are) kill this deal as it is the best deal by far for Maine and it’s economy.

If you remember, Sappi is South African and Great Northern Nekoosa was (I believe) Japanese. Due to the banking crisis and other economic factors capital (credit) is difficult or impossible to obtain for such acquisitions so this is a huge plus…. Do not let anyone tell you otherwise. Go Maine!
Anonymous

An interesting article.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20110614/wl_time/08599207769300
Anonymous

Make sure the city council of Millinockett is involved. That will guarentee the deal as a slam dunk.
Anonymous

any comments on China are now irrelevant. That gravy train is history. The new locations are Malaysia, Vietnam(What?), Costa Rico and a few other forsaken places. Prices of “stuff” coming out of China are set to rise at 15% year over year so bye bye that deal.
Anonymous

any comments on China are now irrelevant. That gravy train is history. The new locations are Malaysia, Vietnam(What?), Costa Rico and a few other forsaken places. Prices of “stuff” coming out of China are set to rise at 15% year over year so bye bye that deal.
Anonymous

any comments on China are now irrelevant. That gravy train is history. The new locations are Malaysia, Vietnam(What?), Costa Rico and a few other forsaken places. Prices of “stuff” coming out of China are set to rise at 15% year over year so bye bye that deal.
Anonymous

“Do the people of the Millinocket area really want to be employees of the Chinese Government?”
As opposed to being employees of nobody?

Does it matter which slimy greedy corporation (American, Chinese, or Nigerian for that matter) runs the show? They will all equally screw workers…

And as far as ‘our wealth’…American workers haven’t had any wealth…especially since the end of the 19th Century…So China isn’t taking what we never had to begin with.
Anonymous

Now that’s a “Northern Massachusetts” comment if I’ve ever heard one. Surprised you actually commented on this site and read a Maine paper. Thought you’d be more apt to comment on the Boston Globe or Wall Street Journal. Thank you for working so hard and making more money than the rest of us and paying higher taxes on your property so that we can all survive up here in the remote north country. I’m sure there are many of your neighbors that make as much if not more and pay as much if not more taxes that care about the welfare of all Maine citizens and remain as what we call true Mainers.

Your mentality is why you get the “Northern Massachusetts” comment. Apparently you’ve heard it more than once if you feel the need to complain!
me in me

Who is we? Do you depend on the mill for your financial security? Probably not .Easy to say scrap it if you do not need a job.Is it better for people to collect unemployment ? I wonder how that is funded? Oh yeah–TAXES. And since I work and pay taxes ,I would rather people work than having me support them.
Anonymous

17 million??? Really? Come on state, if you are going to spend that much, reinvest it into the communities and stop trying to revive a dead industry. Find an industry that is more up to date and will allow the area to move on with their lives instead of feeding on the same old habits.

The song “I owe my soul to the Company Store” was about Coal miners and they fact they only worked to pay off debt. The people in the Millinocket Area only know how to owe their soul to the Mills.

If you are willing to spend a no return investment of 17 million, at least try encouraging a larger business to move into the area with that money instead of feeding what amounts to a welfare turntable and make Brookfield responsible for the crap that put into that landfill, not the people of Maine.
Anonymous

actually, I have never lived in “Northern Massachusetts”. I think the
comments are rediculous though. People living in Southern Maine are just as
much Mainers as you and I. I was born in rural Maine and live in the Bangor
area, although I probably make more money and pay more taxes than most
people around here.
http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

That’s not qot quite the case. The landfill went with the mills as part of the bankruptcy selloff (and very nearly queered the deal at the 11th hour – that was a long day in bankruptcy court). It had nothing to do with the dams, which had been sold off (to a different division of what would eventually be Katahdin Paper’s parent company) long before Inexcon finally got around to going bankrupt.
http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

think12, is that you? You need a new hobby, chief.
Anonymous

How about a clause that says the landfill reverts to the mill purchasers if they fail to properly open and run the mills?
Anonymous

How about a clause that says the landfill reverts to the mill purchasers if they fail to properly open and run the mills?
Anonymous

How about a clause that says the landfill reverts to the mill purchasers if they fail to properly open and run the mills?
Anonymous

How about a clause that says the landfill reverts to the mill purchasers if they fail to properly open and run the mills?
Anonymous

How about a clause that says the landfill reverts to the mill purchasers if they fail to properly open and run the mills?
Anonymous

How about a clause that says the landfill reverts to the mill purchasers if they fail to properly open and run the mills?
Anonymous

Both GM and Chrysler have paid back their loans with interest, despite Union labor, imagine that??
Anonymous

You kidding? I love those rice noodles up to Hang Wong, absolutely the best wings too. I’m thinking I’ll be eating Chinese food every day and I’ll have no complaint.
Anonymous

You kidding? I love those rice noodles up to Hang Wong, absolutely the best wings too. I’m thinking I’ll be eating Chinese food every day and I’ll have no complaint.
Anonymous

You sir, are a racist.
Anonymous

Michaud is the one thing I’ve found we agree on CA2R. It really doesn’t matter what his numbers are if they can’t spell his opponent’s name correctly on the ballot. He’s like gum stuck on the bottom of your shoe.
Anonymous

You are wrong. It is not your money supporting anyone on unemployment in the Katahdin region, it is their money they’ve paid in for probably the last 35 years. You pay for you, they’ve already paid for them. Leave it be, as you may need it someday, unless of course you already collect a government check and are just blowing smoke?
Anonymous

I hope the people of the state of Maine appreciate the hundreds of millions of dollars paid in to Augusta over the last 110 years in taxes, and billions of dollars spent on goods and services adding in the sales tax over that same period. Obviously it is easy to kick someone when they are in need, right? Always makes one feel better to belittle and shame someone who is temporarily without resources, right jd?? Hope you feel better now. Keep kicking all you want, we’ll keep getting back up.
Anonymous

yeah, the people of the millinocket area would rather panhandle than become employees of a chinese corporate subsidiary….
Anonymous

the future is bleak for Millinocket, even if these mills somehow are saved
we will be revisiting this situation a few years down the road from now.
How long will taxpayers be able to prop up a town that has outlived its
original purpose?
Anonymous

the future is bleak for Millinocket, even if these mills somehow are saved
we will be revisiting this situation a few years down the road from now.
How long will taxpayers be able to prop up a town that has outlived its
original purpose?
Anonymous

Its just amazing how others wish harm on others and the distruction of towns this is great news for the Katahdin region getting good people back to work with real jobs in manufacturing.New owners will be investing for the long haul in paper making creating over 600 jobs with an impact of over 2000 jobs good news for the forest industry and all of Northern Maine.
Anonymous

The Mill in woodland is owned by Domtar and those are great paying jobs and there are a lot of people trying to get in there to work. I have several family members who work there and have no complaints at all. What the Hell are you talking about?

P.S. did you just post Wikipedia as a source of information? Hose beast your credibility is circling the toilet.
Anonymous

The Mill in woodland is owned by Domtar and those are great paying jobs and there are a lot of people trying to get in there to work. I have several family members who work there and have no complaints at all. What the Hell are you talking about?

P.S. did you just post Wikipedia as a source of information? Hose beast your credibility is circling the toilet.
Anonymous

The Mill in woodland is owned by Domtar and those are great paying jobs and there are a lot of people trying to get in there to work. I have several family members who work there and have no complaints at all. What the Hell are you talking about?

P.S. did you just post Wikipedia as a source of information? Hose beast your credibility is circling the toilet.
Anonymous

The Mill in woodland is owned by Domtar and those are great paying jobs and there are a lot of people trying to get in there to work. I have several family members who work there and have no complaints at all. What the Hell are you talking about?

P.S. did you just post Wikipedia as a source of information? Hose beast your credibility is circling the toilet.
Anonymous

The Mill in woodland is owned by Domtar and those are great paying jobs and there are a lot of people trying to get in there to work. I have several family members who work there and have no complaints at all. What the Hell are you talking about?

P.S. did you just post Wikipedia as a source of information? Hose beast your credibility is circling the toilet.
Anonymous

The Mill in woodland is owned by Domtar and those are great paying jobs and there are a lot of people trying to get in there to work. I have several family members who work there and have no complaints at all. What the Hell are you talking about?

P.S. did you just post Wikipedia as a source of information? Hose beast your credibility is circling the toilet.
Anonymous

The Mill in woodland is owned by Domtar and those are great paying jobs and there are a lot of people trying to get in there to work. I have several family members who work there and have no complaints at all. What the Hell are you talking about?

P.S. did you just post Wikipedia as a source of information? Hose beast your credibility is circling the toilet.
Anonymous

Come on, be respectful… How come if anyone disagrees with your viewpoint, they’re automatically on Welfare? And, while we’re at it, why is it automatically assumed that everyone on welfare is a deadbeat? I agree with your sentiment, but no way I’m going to back an argument like that. Rude.
Anonymous

Obama was involved in this? Wow, I didn’t read that anywhere in the article!
Anonymous

Ask IGIC to pay $17 mil plus $1 and leave the dump in the hands of Brookfield. Don’t let those crooks off that easy.
Anonymous

Ask IGIC to pay $17 mil plus $1 and leave the dump in the hands of Brookfield. Don’t let those crooks off that easy.
Anonymous

Ask IGIC to pay $17 mil plus $1 and leave the dump in the hands of Brookfield. Don’t let those crooks off that easy.
Anonymous

You see a bleak future because that is your nature. No matter what happens the community will survive in one form or another. I hold no hope out for someone to get these mills running again, but denigrating the entire community, who by the way, have been surviving just fine in the three years since the mill closed, is not helpful, nor is it solicited.
Anonymous

What scares me is that he “still” has a large enough of base that is totally clueless to his economic complacency and paid loyalties…
Anonymous

surviving just fine? Look at the dwindling school enrollments, declining
property values, and the prospects of massive cuts in town services and
local property tax increases. And one mill has been closed for three years,
but still paying property taxes (and the other mill had still been employing
600 or so people). Wait until unemployment runs out for those 600 people.
The future will be very bleak if the mills are abandoned — the owner will
have no reason to keep paying property taxes. If they don’t find a buyer
they will reorganize so these mills are “owned” by a subsidiary corporation
that they let go bankrupt.

People are going to have to sell homes for pennies to move to where there
are jobs, or commute for hours (with every increasing fuel costs) because
they owe more on their home than it will ever be worth in their lifetime.
Anonymous

Yeah, so, what’s your point? We know these things, yet we persevere. And FYI I’ve been commuting 460 miles round trip for 8 years now on a weekly basis. It’s worth the cost to me. I know that because you live in the illustrious mega-city of Bangor that you must of course be smahtah than us hill folk. Mainly because you keep telling us you are. My home is worth less and less but it’s still my home. We are not naive at all but feel a sense of obligation to the community and to each other. You obviously are of the “I got mine so F-you” contingent. You do have the option of never mentioning, visiting, or reading anything about Millinocket and that may help quell your predilection for handing out judgments you are no way qualified to make.
For instance, start commenting on how much your taxes will go up (if you actually pay any) when your boy LePage follows through and cuts the General Assistance budget for Bangor. That ought to keep you occupied for a long time considering how many of your neighbors receive assistance, but meanwhile stay out of our business if our business disturbs you.
Anonymous

Yeah, so, what’s your point? We know these things, yet we persevere. And FYI I’ve been commuting 460 miles round trip for 8 years now on a weekly basis. It’s worth the cost to me. I know that because you live in the illustrious mega-city of Bangor that you must of course be smahtah than us hill folk. Mainly because you keep telling us you are. My home is worth less and less but it’s still my home. We are not naive at all but feel a sense of obligation to the community and to each other. You obviously are of the “I got mine so F-you” contingent. You do have the option of never mentioning, visiting, or reading anything about Millinocket and that may help quell your predilection for handing out judgments you are no way qualified to make.
For instance, start commenting on how much your taxes will go up (if you actually pay any) when your boy LePage follows through and cuts the General Assistance budget for Bangor. That ought to keep you occupied for a long time considering how many of your neighbors receive assistance, but meanwhile stay out of our business if our business disturbs you.
Anonymous

shut-er down boys…. let our dep run the landfill.. who better than the regulators themselves having to keep up with the regulations they made up. the state has plenty of money …pass a few more bonds
Anonymous

I actually live in Brewer and pay them over $3000 in property taxes each
year, and I pay property taxes in another town where I own some property.
Maybe my taxes will go up when LePage (who is not my boy, since I can’t
stand him and would never vote for him) cuts General Assistance — I would
not be surprised. I am _not_ of the “I got mine so F-you” contingent,
however I don’t see the status quo in Millinocket as being sustainable and
trying to prop up a dieing mill is probably not the best use of tax payer
money. We have limited money and need to spend them in the way that
maximizes benefit. In the long run it may be best to help relocate workers
somewhere else — if you spread your economic development funds too thin
then you don’t end up doing ANYTHING significant. The modern economy favors
more urban areas (which Maine is lacking). Millinocket will survive, but
not as a mill town, and it will be able to support a much smaller
population.
Anonymous

It has already decreased in population by around 35% in the last ten years. We are now just the right size. People don’t need “relocation”. I really can’t believe you actually said that. Maybe it’s time for you to give up on Brewer which is like Lewiston is to Auburn and relocate to Florida where there is no property tax? I’m sure your home has not depreciated the 30% everyone else’s home has everywhere in the US over the past 3 years. I’m sure your home has increased in value, right? Had an appraisal lately? I just took a $60,000 hit on a lakefront property we sold a couple of months ago, and not because it was overpriced. If I hadn’t bought it dirt cheap and put sweat equity into it, I would have made nothing. Sign of the times jd.
Anonymous

It has already decreased in population by around 35% in the last ten years. We are now just the right size. People don’t need “relocation”. I really can’t believe you actually said that. Maybe it’s time for you to give up on Brewer which is like Lewiston is to Auburn and relocate to Florida where there is no property tax? I’m sure your home has not depreciated the 30% everyone else’s home has everywhere in the US over the past 3 years. I’m sure your home has increased in value, right? Had an appraisal lately? I just took a $60,000 hit on a lakefront property we sold a couple of months ago, and not because it was overpriced. If I hadn’t bought it dirt cheap and put sweat equity into it, I would have made nothing. Sign of the times jd.
Anonymous

It has already decreased in population by around 35% in the last ten years. We are now just the right size. People don’t need “relocation”. I really can’t believe you actually said that. Maybe it’s time for you to give up on Brewer which is like Lewiston is to Auburn and relocate to Florida where there is no property tax? I’m sure your home has not depreciated the 30% everyone else’s home has everywhere in the US over the past 3 years. I’m sure your home has increased in value, right? Had an appraisal lately? I just took a $60,000 hit on a lakefront property we sold a couple of months ago, and not because it was overpriced. If I hadn’t bought it dirt cheap and put sweat equity into it, I would have made nothing. Sign of the times jd.
Anonymous

It has already decreased in population by around 35% in the last ten years. We are now just the right size. People don’t need “relocation”. I really can’t believe you actually said that. Maybe it’s time for you to give up on Brewer which is like Lewiston is to Auburn and relocate to Florida where there is no property tax? I’m sure your home has not depreciated the 30% everyone else’s home has everywhere in the US over the past 3 years. I’m sure your home has increased in value, right? Had an appraisal lately? I just took a $60,000 hit on a lakefront property we sold a couple of months ago, and not because it was overpriced. If I hadn’t bought it dirt cheap and put sweat equity into it, I would have made nothing. Sign of the times jd.
Anonymous

The unions could get together and buy the landfills. Do all the taxpayers have to foot the bill? Even if the liability is supposedly capped at $17M, who assumes excess cost liability? The state would get stuck with it. If it wasnt such an issue, someone else would’ve bought the mills already (for $1 – that tells you something right there).
Anonymous

The unions could get together and buy the landfills. Do all the taxpayers have to foot the bill? Even if the liability is supposedly capped at $17M, who assumes excess cost liability? The state would get stuck with it. If it wasnt such an issue, someone else would’ve bought the mills already (for $1 – that tells you something right there).
Anonymous

It is not the right size considering it just lost 600 jobs, and those jobs
help create service industry jobs in the area. If the mill closes for good
what else is going to come along in the next year to replace those 600 jobs
and the jobs that will be lost when those 600 people stop spending money
locally?

I had my home appraised in November. It appraised for what I paid for it
5-6 years ago, even though I put $30K in cash plus a ton of sweat equity
into it. It sucks, but it is what it is. If you had asked me 5 years ago I
would have expected my home to be worth $40-50K more than it is now,
considering the improvements I was making. I am planning on moving in the
next year or two onto some land I got at a reasonable price (went on the
market a couple years ago for almost $90K, I paid about $30K). Why would I
locate to Florida to escape property tax? I have no complaints about having
to pay property tax, or the amount I pay.

Millinocket is remote and that puts it at a severe disadvantage. It is also
in the middle of a very beautiful area, which is an asset. It could be an
eco-tourist destination, but those jobs won’t replace money that had
historically been pumped into the local economy from the mill jobs.
Anonymous

Michaud will poke is nose into this “after” others have done the work, and then try and take credit,,,, just in time for his reelection. what a scab…..

With as much as I didn’t like Baldacci, I’d rather have him as Congressman of the 2nd district, at least when he was a Congressman he cared.
Anonymous

BAM and the multinationals have us proud, independent maine-ahs by the proverbial balls, as usual. No way will they agree to any deal that requires them to assume liability for a toxic landfill. No way. Never.

The state will assume full responsibility for the dump, and then hand over management to Casella Waste, which will expand the footprint of said toxic sludge heap and continue to accept toxic waste and debris from outside the state.

Like they did at West Old Town. Like they did at Hampden.

Get it, people?
me in me

No I don’t know how to screw the system like so many of my fellow Mainers. I work for my money and pay taxes.
Anonymous

If i had a choice between maasshole and an asian ill take the asian !
Anonymous

No JJ, just an American who puts America and Americans ahead of anyone else when it comes to our jobs , our way of life, and our local economy. We have been, and hopefully will continue to be the best workers, best thinkers, best neighbors, best humanitarians the world has ever known. Not racist sir, but proud…….
Anonymous

Not true this time there will be major investment made for the long term.
Anonymous

And that is why you are unemployed…..Seems uneducated, negative, oh and yes full of “pride” works for you….but probably does not work for your neighbors….Hows the view from under the pile of logs??
Anonymous

And that is why you are unemployed…..Seems uneducated, negative, oh and yes full of “pride” works for you….but probably does not work for your neighbors….Hows the view from under the pile of logs??
Anonymous

The median age is 47, five years more than the rest of Maine. At 55 I am often the youngest person in Hannaford on any given day. It’s not so much the work needed for the majority of folks who subsist on their investments or SSI. In fact, for an affordable place to live, it is very in tune with fixed incomes. I’ve met several people of age who have moved here because of the prices, but also because of the age appropriate population and the sense of community. One door closes, another one opens.
Next year will call for a revaluation of property as this year we still have tax income from mill. We’ll see what happens. I’m sure there will be some municipal layoffs, and maybe some teachers if this Chinese gig doesn’t work out, but I don’t expect my taxes to increase due to the diminished value of my house. So it’s a tradeoff. Prices are low so people can afford the homes, the more homes sold the better the return to town coffers from taxes including excise tax. There have been towns in similar situations, some of who prepared better for it like Westbrook, and some who adjusted accordingly like Corinna and Westport after Maine Yankee closed.
Anonymous

The median age is 47, five years more than the rest of Maine. At 55 I am often the youngest person in Hannaford on any given day. It’s not so much the work needed for the majority of folks who subsist on their investments or SSI. In fact, for an affordable place to live, it is very in tune with fixed incomes. I’ve met several people of age who have moved here because of the prices, but also because of the age appropriate population and the sense of community. One door closes, another one opens.
Next year will call for a revaluation of property as this year we still have tax income from mill. We’ll see what happens. I’m sure there will be some municipal layoffs, and maybe some teachers if this Chinese gig doesn’t work out, but I don’t expect my taxes to increase due to the diminished value of my house. So it’s a tradeoff. Prices are low so people can afford the homes, the more homes sold the better the return to town coffers from taxes including excise tax. There have been towns in similar situations, some of who prepared better for it like Westbrook, and some who adjusted accordingly like Corinna and Westport after Maine Yankee closed.
Anonymous

No, Keenov, you’re wrong. Domtar moved out some time ago and went back to Canada. The Chinese – a Hong Kong company, and Hong Kong is part of China – now own the Baileyville mill.

They’re not making paper at all anymore. All they do is truck in trees from surrounding Washington County and nearby New Brunswick, Canada – - smash them up, bleach the pulp with chlorine-based chemicals which end up in the St. Croix River and our fish and lobsters – - and then they ship the pulp out of Eastport to China and other parts of Asia.

We’re being strip-mined until the trees are gone, just like they would do to Millinocket.

They don’t want to make paper, just pulp to be shipped out to China for their use – - to make stuff to sell back to us.
Anonymous

Okay, Industry Troll, “doggonit,” - Does any0ne remember what Georgia-Pacific did to Maine? G-P used to own the paper and pulp mill in Baileyville. They milked the town for all the tax breaks they could get, then left and went to Old Town.

In Old Town, G-P they said they’d leave if the State wouldn’t buy their filthy sludge dump. So, Baldacci caved and spent %25 million of our money to buy their dump, because G-P said that was the only way the jobs would be saved.

After we, the people, bought their dump, G-P immediately began laying off workers.

Then they left the State of Maine entirely. Gone with the wind.

Then Baldacci gave the running of it, and all profits, to his friend, Casella, a dump dealer from out-of-state. Many millions to be made from taking industrial and people’s waste, including toxic filth.

Casella has continued to bring in millions of tons of out-of-state garbage and who-knows-what kind of hazardous waste and dump it there.

There’s a trick pony, too. Casella and other contractors bring in out-of-state garbage, get it burned in one of Maine’s garbage incinerators (owned by Casella), and then the Maine DEP says that garbage is from Maine and can be dumped in that dump that YOU AND I OWN.

Why would this Chinese company do anything different? They’re simply following Georgia-Pacific’s playbook.

We don’t want to keep being the repository for everyone’s garbage – it’s awful enough as it is now.

Don’t let them buy this dump so they can fill it with the East Coast’s garbage, and toxic waste! What are we, Idiots, that we would keep letting them do this to us?
Anonymous

When the nearby trees are gone, any company buying those mills would be gone, too.

At a certain point, people had to stop making wagon wheels because there was no longer a market for them. So, too, for excess paper production in the world.

My suggestion to those who have been out of work for a while and cannot find other jobs is to look into the old profession of farming.

Maine needs thousands more small farmers just to feed ourselves. The demand for locally-grown food is growing by leaps and bounds – food from away is going up in price every week these days.

You can start small right in your own backyard. Growing some of your own food will save you money, and teach your family something about self-sufficiency.

Plenty of time to start a garden…….easiest way is to build a bottomless wooden box (no treated lumber – poisons plants), set it on the ground, fill it with decent soil from your yard.

Don’t buy any “soil” product that says it contains “bio-solids” – that’s sewer sludge. Maine’s monopoly garbageman Casella sells sewer sludge from the cities as “compost.” Disgusting. Always ask what’s in “soil” before you buy it and use it in producing food for your family.

So, this is an alternative to simply waiting and hoping “someone” will rescue you. Any rescue will be short-lived, as we’ve learned.

The Chinese have no interest in Maine’s people, except for pulping our forests to ship to China.

Look elsewhere for your livelihood. Farming is the best livelihood you can create, and you can start small, then increase every year, even with a little bit of land.

We need to be more independent and self-sufficient in order to survive the falling economy, which, according to Wall Street experts, isn’t going to get better anytime soon, if ever. Really.
Anonymous

i doubt it!
Anonymous

yeah, you’re right…georgia pacific, bowater, inexcon, and brascan were all great friends of the 2 mill towns and did no harm to them…..of course it would be better to scrap the mill than to have roughly 600 earn a decent living as well as the businesses that would support the operation…not to mention the tax dollars realized….
Anonymous

“take control of our destiny….” ”Our” destiny? Yours, mine and the Koch brothers? There’s only one destiny we all share alike, we Americans north and south, we Asians, we Africans we Europeans and the rest, and it’s shared by all mortals. In the meantime, we should be good to our fellow creatures of all kinds, do good in your community, be imaginative and creative, laugh at the absurdity of the powerful, and, above all, don’t let them get you to do things you know you shouldn’t do.
Anonymous

You are dead on!

Every non-municipal landfill was supposed to have set aside a “closure & post-closure” fund, or other suitable financial instrument, to protect Maine taxpayers from problems once they no longer enjoyed income to pay for any environmental obligations from their activities.

GP was rumored to have set aside between $25 and $75 million to “protect” Mainer’s after the Old Town landfill was filled. As you point out, Baldacci cut a deal with GP to “save jobs” and allowed GP to walk away from Old Town … taking their multi-million Fund with them!

Now, LePage is smelling the “joy” of placing Maine taxpayers on the hook in order to “save” jobs that’re promised by some multi-national holding company… Can you say Derivitives and Walstreet Scams?

As a member of the Blue Ribbon Commission on Solid Waste in 2003, I can assure you there’s zero need for Maine taxpayers to pick up the environmental tab on this, OR “own” the Dolby landfill.

If there’s any claim that Juniper Ridge is “filling up” and needs to be replaced… that’ll be Casella (another multi-state conglomberate with no serious Maine ties) telling everyone that they’ve filled Juniper Ridge with Boston crap and need yet another gullible governor to enable their bad, and in my opinion, illegal behavior!

Too bad we’re suffering the lack of a competent and knowledgable DEP Commissioner, as we have for the past 8 1/2 years.

Shame!
Anonymous

I fear you’re closer to the ultimate truth than anyone in Augusta these days!
Anonymous

I am outraged. This is a sham on tax payers if I ever saw one.
Anonymous

They shoot horses don’t they?
Anonymous

Nancy….. Unfortunately for you, I am not an “Industry Troll”…
Anonymous

Nancy….. Unfortunately for you, I am not an “Industry Troll”…
Anonymous

Nancy….. Unfortunately for you, I am not an “Industry Troll”…
Anonymous

Ben, I just got home from work, looks like more than just me are on to you. Perfect example of your tremendous EGO. Its was not me…CHIEF.
Anonymous

Ben, I just got home from work, looks like more than just me are on to you. Perfect example of your tremendous EGO. Its was not me…CHIEF.
Anonymous

Ben, I just got home from work, looks like more than just me are on to you. Perfect example of your tremendous EGO. Its was not me…CHIEF.
Anonymous

Ben, I just got home from work, looks like more than just me are on to you. Perfect example of your tremendous EGO. Its was not me…CHIEF.
Anonymous

Better be careful, Ben is going to throw the dictionary at you…
Anonymous

Better be careful, Ben is going to throw the dictionary at you…
Anonymous

Better be careful, Ben is going to throw the dictionary at you…
Anonymous

Better be careful, Ben is going to throw the dictionary at you…
Anonymous

Better be careful, Ben is going to throw the dictionary at you…
Anonymous

Hi Tom – YIKES! We’re agreeing on something to do with garbage!!!

I’m…….almost….speechless.

Love your look when you play the bagpipes or Drum Major – you guys have way too much fun!

I’ll call out to you again if you play in Jonesport or Eastport this fourth of July.
Anonymous

Just don’t tell anyone wha’t under the kilt…
Anonymous

Oh, Great – - thanks for putting that image in my head………..{~;>
Anonymous

Oh, Great – - thanks for putting that image in my head………..{~;>
Anonymous

Can’t stop can you. Just throw it out there hoping to start a fire. I do feel you need some help!!
Anonymous

Can’t stop can you. Just throw it out there hoping to start a fire. I do feel you need some help!!
Anonymous

Nice try….
Anonymous

Nice try….
Anonymous

Well you Maasshole fill us in…
Anonymous

They slithered behind the walls at night and released foul-smelling musk into the drinking water. And they were so numerous that Ben Sessions once killed 42 in a single day. Woops wrong story.
Anonymous

Seems Maashole might be tipping a few back today. Surprised he’s still not fighting the Japanese.
Anonymous

Seems Maashole might be tipping a few back today. Surprised he’s still not fighting the Japanese.
Anonymous

Seems Maashole might be tipping a few back today. Surprised he’s still not fighting the Japanese.
Anonymous

Bangor ah, well we are impressed big spender!!
Anonymous

Bangor ah, well we are impressed big spender!!
Anonymous

Bangor ah, well we are impressed big spender!!
Anonymous

Bangor ah, well we are impressed big spender!!
Anonymous

Bangor ah, well we are impressed big spender!!
Anonymous

You have no idea you fool. This company is currently dumping millions in the old Domtar mill as we listen to your insults. Upgrades, Nat gas and studying the possibility of adding more then one tissue machines in Baileyville. the possibilities in Millinocket and East Mill “could” be tremendous!! So please stop making a fool of yourself.
Anonymous

bangor is a hick town too, at least I admit it. I prefer to be an hour an a half from family vs 6 hours flying, and I enjoy being close to hiking, rock climbing, canoeing, the camp. 1 million dollar ranch houses and endless sprawl in silicon valley do not impress me that much, but it is fun to visit the bay area once in a while.
Anonymous

They paid $64 million for Baleyville, but they are only willing to pay $1 for Millinocket and E. Millinocket IF AND ONLY IF the State buys the landfill and is on the hook for $17 million in cleanup liability. What does that tell you? HUGE RISK!!

These mills make phonebook paper and newsprint, and all their customers have moved on.

Stop making a fool of yourself. This is still a long shot and a huge risk for the buyer (otherwise the seller would be getting more than $1 out of the deal).
Anonymous

They paid $64 million for Baleyville, but they are only willing to pay $1 for Millinocket and E. Millinocket IF AND ONLY IF the State buys the landfill and is on the hook for $17 million in cleanup liability. What does that tell you? HUGE RISK!!

These mills make phonebook paper and newsprint, and all their customers have moved on.

Stop making a fool of yourself. This is still a long shot and a huge risk for the buyer (otherwise the seller would be getting more than $1 out of the deal).
Anonymous

They paid $64 million for Baleyville, but they are only willing to pay $1 for Millinocket and E. Millinocket IF AND ONLY IF the State buys the landfill and is on the hook for $17 million in cleanup liability. What does that tell you? HUGE RISK!!

These mills make phonebook paper and newsprint, and all their customers have moved on.

Stop making a fool of yourself. This is still a long shot and a huge risk for the buyer (otherwise the seller would be getting more than $1 out of the deal).
Anonymous

They paid $64 million for Baleyville, but they are only willing to pay $1 for Millinocket and E. Millinocket IF AND ONLY IF the State buys the landfill and is on the hook for $17 million in cleanup liability. What does that tell you? HUGE RISK!!

These mills make phonebook paper and newsprint, and all their customers have moved on.

Stop making a fool of yourself. This is still a long shot and a huge risk for the buyer (otherwise the seller would be getting more than $1 out of the deal).
Anonymous

I did not say this will happen I said it could. If this deal happens do you really think they will plan on running newsprint and phonebook paper for ever? look at Lincoln, Twin Rivers, Old Town Fuel & Fiber and others, they all have been down before and now look at them, same mills doing things different and making different products. This company is very serious about their investments and have deep pockets. why did you not comment on that? its because you also have an EGO and act a fool!! Do your homework on the Mills in this part of Maine and how the are making money.
Anonymous

I did not say this will happen I said it could. If this deal happens do you really think they will plan on running newsprint and phonebook paper for ever? look at Lincoln, Twin Rivers, Old Town Fuel & Fiber and others, they all have been down before and now look at them, same mills doing things different and making different products. This company is very serious about their investments and have deep pockets. why did you not comment on that? its because you also have an EGO and act a fool!! Do your homework on the Mills in this part of Maine and how the are making money.
Anonymous

wellllll ok then,, I guess.
Anonymous

wellllll ok then,, I guess.
http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

Hmm. “Sockpuppet Troll Choir” would be a good name for an Allman Brothers cover band.
Anonymous

Hobby Ben?

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