Maine Senate enacts sweeping partisan health insurance reform

Posted May 16, 2011, at 12:16 p.m.
Last modified May 16, 2011, at 10:48 p.m.
Print this   E-mail this    Facebook this   Tweet this     
Senate President Kevin Raye, R-Perry, confers with leaders of the Senate after a bill to overhaul Maine's health insurance laws was passed in the Senate, at the State House, in Augusta on Monday, May 16, 2011.
Pat Wellenbach | AP
Senate President Kevin Raye, R-Perry, confers with leaders of the Senate after a bill to overhaul Maine's health insurance laws was passed in the Senate, at the State House, in Augusta on Monday, May 16, 2011.

AUGUSTA, Maine — The state Senate gave final approval Monday to a health care reform bill that aims to spark more competition in Maine’s insurance market but that critics contend could drive up costs, particularly in rural areas of the state.

With a 24-10 vote, the Senate ended weeks of debate on what has emerged as the most partisan issue, to date, of the 2011 legislative session. Gov. Paul LePage, a Republican, is expected to sign the legislation into law Tuesday.

“The good intentions of the past have led us to some of the highest health insurances rates in the country,” Senate Majority Leader Sen. Jonathan Courtney, R-Springvale, told his colleagues during floor debate. “Today it is time we go down a slightly different path.”

The Senate action came three days after Republican leaders pushed to complete work on the bill, LD 1333. The bill’s fast track infuriated Democrats and threatened to cast a partisan cloud over efforts to craft a new, $6.1 billion budget. Ultimately, Republican leaders postponed a final vote until Monday but it was obvious that tensions were still higher than usual, despite the cooling-down period.

“I believe from start to finish this has been a bad process,” said Sen. Joseph Brannigan, D-Portland, a member of the Insurance and Financial Services Committee where the partisan fighting began.

The bill has numerous provisions aimed at opening up Maine’s insurance market.

Beginning in 2014, Mainers who are purchasing individual insurance rather than through an employer could shop around for policies in the other New England states with the exception of Vermont. The bill also would allow smaller businesses to pool together when purchasing insurance in order to get lower rates.

The bill would not allow insurance companies to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions. But the measure seeks to insulate insurance companies by creating a “high-risk pool” to cover Mainers who use more health services.

That reinsurance program would be paid for with a $4-per-month fee added to almost every policyholder in the state — everyone except state employees and legislators, a point made repeatedly by Democrats during Monday’s debate. Republican leaders said they plan to close that exemption.

“The current system is not working. We do need to make some changes,” said Sen. Bill Diamond, D-Windham, one of the three Democrats who supported the bill.

But critics have said the measure could dramatically drive up insurance costs for older Mainers and those living in more rural areas by giving insurance companies more discretion to base premiums on a person’s age, occupation and place of residence.

Sen. Phil Bartlett, D-Gorham, accused the GOP leadership of rushing the bill without adequate time to examine the potential impacts, particularly on residents in rural areas.

Echoing comments made throughout the debate over LD 1333, Bartlett suggested that the legislation was largely written by or for the insurance industry.

“Do you think they are doing it because they feel they are making too much money? No, this will allow them to make more money,” Bartlett said. “But what is it going to do to your constituents and mine? We don’t know because we haven’t had an opportunity to explore it.”

Republicans picked up three Democrats in the Senate after amending the bill to address lawmakers’ concerns about rising rates in rural areas and insurance companies forcing policyholders to travel long distances for care.

Sen. Nancy Sullivan, D-Biddeford, said her decision to sign onto the bill made her feel a bit like “a skunk at the family picnic.” But Sullivan said that state must do something to address sky-high insurance rates that are too costly for many Mainers to afford.

Likewise, Sen. Elizabeth Schneider, D-Old Town, acknowledged that she was taking a risk by supporting the bill, aspects of which still cause her “grave concern.” Schneider said, however, she chose to work to make the bill better.

“I am also hopeful that if we do not achieve our goal and lower the costs for all of the people of Maine that we will be back to fix it,” Schneider said.

But Bartlett said that despite supporters’ talk of the need to help the 130,000-plus uninsured people in Maine today, there is nothing in the bill that would guarantee coverage for anyone. And if you are over age 45, Bartlett said, your rates may increase because of the bill.

“This is the problem with doing this on the fly,” he said. “We are rushing this through here so fast that we don’t have the time to check our numbers and check the implications.”

Democrats have been accusing GOP leaders of attempting to ramrod the bill through the Legislature ever since the bill was passed out of committee on a partisan vote after minimal debate. Opponents also have accused Republicans of refusing to give the Maine Bureau of Insurance time to perform actuarial studies on the measure.

On Monday, just as Senate debate began, it was announced that bureau director Mila Kofman will step down as of June 1.

The fracas over health care also threatened to trickle down into lawmakers’ attempts to build bipartisan consensus on the $6.1 billion budget.

Last week, Rep. Patrick Flood, R-Winthrop, the House chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee, handed in his resignation amid the partisan sniping over the health insurance bill. On Monday, however, he announced he would stay at the post.

Addressing the bill’s relatively quick trip through Legislature, GOP leaders said that many of the bill’s proposals have been used elsewhere with success. They said there was no reason to wait, especially with the Legislature facing a wave of other issues — including the budget — that must be dealt with during the next month.

“Employers and families with coverage are at the breaking point. Failure to act would have been irresponsible,” House Speaker Robert Nutting, R-Oakland, said in a statement. “This plan is based on proven systems in dozens of other states where rates are lower – sometimes dramatically lower. To get our economy growing again and create jobs, we need an insurance system that Mainers can afford.”

Similar articles:

Marketplace News

Marketplace

Guidelines for posting on bangordailynews.com

The Bangor Daily News encourages comments about stories, but you must follow our terms of service.

In brief:

  1. Keep it civil and stay on topic
  2. No vulgarity, racial slurs, name-calling or personal attacks.
  3. People who harass others or joke about tragedies will be blocked.

The primary rule here is pretty simple: Treat others with the same respect you'd want for yourself. Here are some guidelines (see more):

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.

  • Anonymous

     If you’re over 40 and live anywhere outside of a 30 mile radius of Portland, Bangor, Lewiston, or Augusta, get ready to dig deep into your pockets, cause this bill written by the insurance industry is going to create a river of money straight into their pockets.  Anyone notice that as soon as the publicity around this bill came to light, Anthem’s recent protestations about their proposed rate increases stopped?? They are right now drinking champs and toasting LePage for delivering all he promised.

  • Anonymous

    The four other states we’ll be allowed to shop around in are, along with Maine, the most expensive in the country. This is a deal worked out with local insurance lobbyists. It has nothing to do with free market shopping. These guys don’t believe in the free market. Only in lobbyists. Otherwise we would have been granted the freedom to shop anywhere in the U.S. 

  • Anonymous

    The Bangor Daily recently showcased a picture of a tree getting hit by lightning.   The passage of this law is the political equivalent.  The speed, the ambiguity of the content, the lack of manners, the apparent gains for insurance companies to the detriment of rural and older Mainers–all speak to an underhanded and low-minded mentality of putting big business before the people. 

    It is a slap in the face of our noble heritable:  representation by the people, for the people. This is, instead, representation of Money, for Money.

    Shame on the GOP for bootlicking corporations and taking the dignity of our State down another peg or two.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3X7SFRHODRS2WLWYPQD5G5DEAY bmy

    This is another knife in the back delivered by the republicans – and shame on Bill Diamond and the two other Democrats who supported it. We’ll remember this come election time! Never, EVER trust a republican (or an insurance company) to do anything that benefits the common man.

  • Anonymous

    Its a good Bill for all Mainers!!!!  My guess would that the insurance compaines funding Democrats campaigns  didn’t pay off this time…. Can we all Say Competition?? Which drives prices down…. 5 Stars to the House, Senate and lets not forget Governor Paul LePage!!!!  Thank you very much!!!!  Imagine if Democrats looked out for the working people, this would have got done years ago….. Dirigo was written for the insurance compaines to get people who couldn’t afford insurance and to be paid for by tax payers… corporate welfare,  the prices will be cheaper now,  then Dirigo could offer people before,  without taxpayer funding!!!!

    Thank you God for the changes Maine is about to receive, Amen!!!

  • Anonymous

    YES!!! Thank You!
    And those of you that are whining, let me quote your current hero… “elections have consequences”…  

  • Anonymous

    Interesting!! 4 Democrats voted for passage. Not quite so partisan after all!!!

  • Anonymous

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Captain Lepage has asked us to inform you too,

      Please buckle your seatbelts as we are entering an air pocket of deregulated turbulence, the ride is going to get a little bumpy here on out. There will be No smoking, alchohol, fast foods or other riskey health choices while in flight, air fare will increase due to the Turbulence for the long flights with discounts for those who ride in the baggage compartment. We now give the choice of  lay over or;

    – In Flight Departure.

    However the choice will be made for you.

      For those that can’t afford  the increase fare the Exists are located Fore and Aft, and the stewardess will be more then glad to assist you in locating them while in flight. Parachutes will be allotted based on age and location of departure.

    Thank You for flying —-The Republican Plan!

  • yowsayowsa1

     The only whiners we will hear from about it on this forum will be the ones with insurance paid for by other people. 

  • Anonymous

     Wrong!! If Mainers are allowed to shop for insurance in NH and Ct. They can get the same plan for 40-50% less.

  • Anonymous

     Now Now Now. Don’t be bitter.

  • yowsayowsa1

     Now you feel the pain from the slap in the face that your messiah  gave hard working Americans with his ACA.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not!

    I getting First Class!

    The FDR Plan,

     Window Seat, Champagne and Strawberries! 

  • Anonymous

    Wrong – you do not get the same plan, because the other states do not have the same requirements Maine does, which is why they are cheaper.  And unregulatable by Maine, btw.  It’s a bad deal for anyone who ever gets sick or just plain ages.  OH, that’s all of us. 

  • Anonymous

     Not true. Same plan. The diff is in the community ratings. This means I can get the same plan without the community ratings by going to NH.

  • Anonymous

    Except for the Majorty of Mainers who are Older and get to pay 3 to 5 Times More!

    I quess you “Read the Plan” Didn’t Ya! 

  • Anonymous

    So you know that this is a bad deal for Mainer’s, but this is about revenge for you?
    bumb a$$! 

  • Anonymous

    If I’m wrong, I’m more than happy to apologize, but the figures I’m looking at don’t show that. I hope I’m wrong. Nothing would make me happier.
     

  • Anonymous

    insurance companies  1      Maine people first  0 

  • Anonymous

    2014? WTF!

  • Anonymous

    First of all, you’re admitting that the Republicans are acting as disgustingly as someone who is apparently your worst enemy.  What does that say about Republicans?

    Second, you seem to be subscribing to the philosophy, “An eye for an eye.”  However, Jesus said that the Hammurabic code is a bad way to act–so again, you’re putting Republicans down.

    Third, Obama helped pass a law that will give all our children affordable access to a doctor.  We are the only country that denies our children access to a doctor.  This is noble .  Jesus said, “Suffer the little children to come unto me.”

    Fourth, Obama’s plan is very similar to Mitt Romney’s (Rep) plan in Massachusetts.  I hear the people of Massachusetts are relieved that they no longer have to worry about losing their house to pay for a medical emergency.

    Fifth, insurance companies are cruel and greed–denying people insurance based on the fact they have acne, or have been beaten by their spouse.  Obama’s plan forces greedy companies not to reject based on pre-existing conditions.

    Sixth, all other industrialized countries have national health care.  We are the only backward billionaire-ruled country that doesn’t. 

    Seventh, The US government is already paying the majority of medical costs in this country.  We are already a semi-socialist system.

    And so on. 

    Got anything intelligent to say?

  • Anonymous

    $1000.00 Pm  x.50 =$500.00 Pm x 3 = $1500 PM

    Or x 5 = $2500.00 PM

    Absolutely BRILLIANT!

  • Anonymous

    $1000.00 Pm  x.50 =$500.00

     Pm x 3 = $1500 PM
     
    Or x 5 = $2500.00 PM
     
    Brilliant!

    Absolutely BRILLIANT!
     

  • Anonymous

    We all can afford health insurance now! Thanks for explanation ICIHEARIKNOW, now maybe the liberals can understand this bill is good for all even welfare takers!!!

  • Anonymous

     Have a call in to my agent who was involved in Augusta.

  • Anonymous

     Probably to come into compliance with the ACA, which is due then.

  • Anonymous

    Cheesecake1955 you blew Rparpa out of the water!!!  

  • Anonymous

    Hang On! They have some more pegs!

    These Tea Parties want to bring you back to the Basic  Constitution!

    What do expect from the Wal-mart ROLLBACK generation?

    Anything more then 1 page of content is two difficult for them to comprehend!!

  • Anonymous

    Thanks. I wonder  ifyour agent would know why they restricted coverage to only four states. I can’t get anyone with any idea.  I really don’t get it. 

  • Anonymous

    Gee, when Republicans vote with Majority Democrats like Olympia and Susan have, they’re called “moderates” and other nicy, nicy things.

    When three Democrats cross over to vote with Majority Democrats, they’re demonized.

    I don’t know who the other two were, but I’ve found Bill Diamond to be most moderate, similar to Dan Gwadosky (sp) and Matt Dunlap over the years.

    Just ’cause you don’t agree with him, why be so critical.

    Gosh, that’s a Wonderful Black & White World you live in. 

  • Anonymous

    The insurance companies will give us the same plan as New Hampshire, even though they can now jack up prices based on location and age?

    If it is the ‘sample plan’, it won’t be for long.  They’ll simply change it to reflect the difference between NH and Maine based on actuarial data–maximize profit, right?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree with you, but you’re metaphor is EXCELLENT!

    One typo however, but many of us are with you there. 

  • Anonymous

    Right on yowsayowsa1! Take that old folks and the so called disabled. This bill is the answer too bad we couldn’t get one like this from the feds. Whiners better start reaching for those bootstraps. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    you all know what’s going to happen when the Dems gain control again in 2012….

  • Anonymous

    Not a chance of that! I can’t decide who is more appalingly ignorant – yowsa or conservorobot…i mean, conservomatic
     

  • Anonymous

    I don’t expect a call back until tomorrow. He’s out of town.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, I hope Cheesecake is right. 40-50% off having to pay 20K+ would be great! However, those aren’t the figures I’ve found. Again, I’d be happy to be blown out of the water.

  • Anonymous

     Anyone seen the latest from the University of Alberta in Edmonton Canada? Why aren’t we seeing something of this here? I know it’s a bit off the mark. http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/HOME/INDEX.cfm

  • Anonymous

    You’re probably right. This nightmare ACA is a mill stone around our necks. This jerk Obama has caused so much grief for this country. It will take decades to recover, if we ever do.

  • Anonymous

     Lets make a deal between the Maine GOP and the citizens of Maine.  If all the folks in Maine pay less for health insurance that is equal to or better than what they have today and no one loses coverage, Republicans get to keep their jobs.  If premiums go up, or coverage goes down, the Republicans all submit their resignations.  Good deal for them, good deal for Maine.

  • Anonymous

     Yup…just keep making the changes the insurance industry wants…they want what’s good for Mainers right? HAHAHA

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    Have you ever seen an insurance company submit to the legislature a bill that would benefit you? — Give you a lower rate? — Or a better chance to collect for damage when water leaked into your house?   That contained fewer lines of fine, fine print?

    If you believe that insurance companies were created to help people, you probably also thanked a higher power when you heard this bill was going to pass.

    The humble Farmer
      

  • Anonymous

    I would just like to say that I am impressed with my Insurance Agent who emailed me to support this bill.   I just hope it turns out as positive as we all would like it to.  I lived in CT for a brief time and was amazed that I had no medical debt.  As soon as I returned to Maine (have a full time job with “great” insurance benefits) a lot of that debt returned.  If it wasn’t for medical debt I wouldn’t have any at all!  Funny huh?

  • Anonymous

    One of the posters here today has said that elections have consequences. He is right. The only people we have to blame for what has happened and will happen in Augusta over the past few weeks and in the future are ourselves. We can come to this and similar poster boards and moan and groan and yes, whine about what the largely tea party elected republican controlled legislature is doing but guess what. Like the tea party or detest the tea party you have to give credit where credit is due. They worked their collective butts off to get people elected that mirrored their feelings about what they felt government should be about. Ask yourselves did any of us stand in front of the Federal Building in Bangor in the cold and snow last year in April holding signs of protest about what was going on in our government? Did any of us stage a rally in our various cities or towns to protest our government or to advocate for our political point of view? Did any of us attend meeting after meeting with people who shared our political viewpoint? Did any of us spend last summer going to distant towns and not only rallying support for our political position but recruiting others to do the same? Did we attend the state convention of the party of our choice and when we saw the platform that the entrenched members of that party proposed did we work to defeat it and put one more to our liking in place? Did we spend night after night making phone calls in support of our candidates? Did we give up our weekends to hand out leaflets and fliers in support of our candidates? Did we contribute to our candidate with not only money, but with time, effort and energy? Did we help get out the vote on election day? My guess would be in the most cases the answers to most of these questions is a big fat NO. The tea party did all of what I outlined above. They selected candidates favorable to their ideology and worked their asses off to get them elected. While we were home nice and comfortable on a miserable April day they were out working in favor of their beliefs. While we enjoyed our summer weekends at the beach, with cookouts or family gatherings they were tirelessly building a network of like minded people. Last fall while we were watching TV they were dedicated to doing the things that had to be done to get their candidates elected. They were successful. They won fair and square at the only place that really matters when it comes to politics. The ballot box. Expect to see more and more bills that we find repulsive pass in the next few weeks. But remember to the victor go the spoils. I have said on numerous occasions that the tea party is very good at pointing fingers. Maybe it’s time for us to start pointing our own fingers. At ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry, we’re going to be working on the “welfare takers” next.

  • Anonymous

    You talk too much and repeat yourself over and over.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe there should be a third entry in that competition!

    Do I get to submit a nomination?

  • Anonymous

    This is a strange post in which you start by suggesting that insurance companies have been paying Democrats bribe money.  Do you have any evidence for this shocking claim? 

    You then claim that competition will lower prices, even though research has shown that rural Mainers and older Mainers will end up paying more.  So you’re saying that competition will hurt some Mainers so others can benefit–which, I think, is a sad situation that shouldn’t be celebrated.

    The Wall Street Journal called the health care system a “dysfunctional market” where competition actually drives up prices.

    Finally, the comments others have left on your post  seem to suggest welfare recipients are bad people, cheating the system.  This is cruel and just plain wrong.  It also violates basic moral codes of compassion and kindness, such as those that Jesus preached–

    Which makes it particularly perverse that you yell “Amen!!!” at the end of your comment.

  • Anonymous

    The Demokrauts hate to see people having a choice… They want so bad to be needed that they create bureaucratic red tape to prevent people from doing  things for themselves. 

  • Anonymous

    Pardon me for expressing an opinion. Even when conservatives are praised they find something to complain about. Guess there is no pleasing you is there.

  • Anonymous

    Spruce,

    You can’t berate someone for a “serious accusation…in violation of civil law” and then, hilariously, spout the same accusation in the next post.

    What he said:
    “My guess would that the insurance compaines funding Democrats campaigns  didn’t pay off this time…. ”

    Your reaction:
    “This is a strange post in which you start by suggesting that insurance companies have been paying Democrats bribe money.  Do you have any evidence for this shocking claim?  This is a serious accusation, and it might be in violation of civil law.”

    What you wrote on the other post:
    “This is, instead, representation of Money, for Money.Shame on the GOP for bootlicking corporations and taking the dignity of our State down another peg or two. ”

    If you want to live by a moral code of compassion and kindnesss go help others and get off the message board on BDN! Why aren’t you living what you preach at the soup kitchen?

  • Anonymous

    Did you really think anything would?  I gave up on that when birthers still complained about President Obama’s birth certificate, even after the Supreme Court said it was valid.  That was good enough for them in 2000, wasn’t it?  Huh. 

  • Anonymous

    One question: Why not Vermont? I mean honestly why? I know the silly reasons, but I want to know how excluding Vermont benefits anyone. I thank you in advance for your honest replies.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a difference between saying someone did something wrong ethically and, on the other hand, saying they broke the law.   This phrase might suggest bribery:

    “My guess would that the insurance compaines funding Democrats campaigns  didn’t pay off this time.”

    Nowhere do I suggest bribery or accuse anyone of a specific behavior that is illegal.

    So, your analogy between what I say and what is said above fails.

    Also, your suggestion that people who post on this board can’t be compassionate is ludicrous.  Obviously, I could post on this board (which I consider an important public debate forum) and do other work as well.

    So, your second argument crumbles.

  • Anonymous

    Yea-ah!!  

    The KKK worked thier butt of too!
         They got up in the middle of the night wearing nothing more than thier bedsheets on dark cold nights warmed by nothing more than burning crosses and corpses!

    It is amazing how Ignorance, Hate and Bigotry,  fuels adrenaline!

  • Anonymous

    I heard that Identical twins share the same brain cell!

    Is there any truth to that rumour?  

  • Anonymous

    Sounds to me like what the poster said was true. Do you have something against the truth? 

  • Anonymous

    Now you have a choice of Expensive Plans That Don’t Cover Anything!
     

  • Anonymous

    Huh?  Yes and no.
    I don’t see it like you do. I don’t know about you, but I volunteered , a lot, during the last Presidential election, and also during this last one (calling,etc.)  So, no, I do not relate to what you say.  I know many here in the Bangor area who are very active in politics/city gvt, etc.  (and none are tea party people.) 

  • Anonymous

    You got it.  If it bothers someone to read someone else’s “long” post, then don’t read it.  And if  one is  sure of their own beliefs, it should not bother anyone anyway! 

  • Anonymous

       Newt Gringrich made the comment the other day that we should mandate a literacy test for voters!

    Even Main Stream Republicans want to get rid of these ill informed ! 

  • Anonymous

    So, in addition to higher insurance rates (I live in eastern Maine), the republicans just increased taxes for my wife and I by $96 a year. I wonder if LePage will go along with this tax increase.

  • Anonymous

    Why not a regional co-op with other New England states instead of each state  re-inventing the wheel? Most health care policy think tanks / consortiums are already functioning and sharing ideas / best practices, rates of infections/ and New England has some of the most well respected in the nation.FYO  check out the Boston Globe’s series on SSI, the other welfare- for some interesting ( if not particularly relevant info to this thread)

  • Anonymous

    You both effectively did the same thing. Both statements assumed sweeping and inaccurate assumptions about the entire representation from another party. His accusation was was ludicrous because campaign financing laws in Maine has resulted almost all legislators from both parties receiving “Clean” Elections money. Your statement is ludicrous as there is no similar connection between “money” and the GOP. Most state legislators in the GOP are not wealthy, connected, or in anyway able to be labeled as somehow tied in with “big business.”

    I suggest you preach less, post less, and be the good person you chide others for, in your opinion, not being.

  • Anonymous

    Did you read the bill? Or are you playing follow the leader?  

  • Anonymous

    I think there is a technicality though, it is a “fee” and not a “tax” now all of us smart people know it is pretty much the same thing, it was just a matter of changing one word.  So LePage not paying attention to the minions making laws will support it because it was worded as a “fee” not a “tax” but you, me and about few thousand other people, know the difference 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, but he probably sees it differently than you do. 

  • Anonymous

    You keep ignoring the fact that ICIHEARIKNOW accused the Democrats of a serious legal crime–a felony. And I do not accuse the Reps of any such thing. Stop ignoring this.

    I’m glad you agree with my me that ICIHEARIKNOW’s claim is ludicrous.  However, when you try to say my claim is “similar,” you again slip in a false analogy.  Tricky of you — but you’re putting words in my mouth that I didn’t say.

    Republican policy is to cut taxes for the rich, right?  Republican policy is to make it easier for insurance companies to charge higher premiums for rural and older Mainers, right?

    Did you know that the Republicans insisted on extended the Bush Tax cuts while at the same time saying we needed to decrease the deficit?  Did you know that extending those tax cuts will increase the deficit by a trillion dollars over the next ten years?

    Did you know that Republicans are fighting to keep giving oil companies billions of dollars in subsidies, even though the oil companies are charging us $4 at the pump and are currently experiencing record profits?

    Etc. — so don’t tell me the GOP doesn’t favor Money.  Didn’t LePage and Rep Congress want to give rich people in the State of Maine more breaks recently?  That money does not trickle down. The Reps love to favor Big Money. It is the backbone of their entire philosophy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DK2NSO2GYJSIRQOPYAXLKVEIA4 James

     I hope my insurance rates go way down but I have been around long enouh to hold my praise for the motor job until I have a thousand miles on it.

  • Anonymous

    You have an odd why at hearing what I said,,, I never said bride, donating money to a politican when running for office is  a bribe or is it?????  I never ever said people on Dirigo were on welfare you said it…  I said when the price for insuranse goes down there will be no need to subsidize the cost through Dirigo… Competition always drives down prices in a free market.  If that were not true you would still be paying 10 grand for a flat screen tv…

  • Anonymous

    Here’s what you say:  “My guess would that the insurance compaines funding Democrats campaigns  didn’t pay off this time.”

    A “pay off” is a bribe.  And bribers say things like, “I better pay off so-and-so.” 

    If you’re not accusing Democrats of a bribe you should be more clear–because you are seemingly suggesting it.

    I think you owe Democrats and insurance companies both an apology.

  • Anonymous

    What, exactly is “rich”, Spruce?  Folks throw that term around a lot in this forum but nobody ever defines it.  If Republican policy is to cut taxes for the rich, it stands to reason that we should know when we’ve crossed the line. 

  • Anonymous

    If I know Cheesecake like I think I know Cheesecake, Raparpa, you can rest assured, Cheesecake has done her homework. This piece of legislation should be the solution to all our health care woes, well at least most of them. From what the article said the elderly might be up the creek, but that isn’t coming from Cheesecake though. 

  • Anonymous

     Cutoff is $200,000 per joint filing, my tax savings at $70,000 are about $84.00 a year, those over the threshold will save around $2,500 a year. It should be the reverse, and if the Republicans were for “the working man” as they are so wont to say, this is the way it would be, not as it is. If your name indicates where you live, I will dare to say there are a lot more people getting the lower amount.

  • Anonymous

    Our Founding Fathers didn’t have health care and they did alright! 

  • Anonymous

     Yeah, thanks, I appreciate the $96.00 a year tax increase, makes my day.

  • Anonymous

     Scuse me, not whining, honest.  I pay around $10,000 a year for two people, not including $2,500 deductible each, and about $150 a month for a few prescriptions. So if I did want to whine about another $96.00 a month tacked on to this, I think I have every right to do so, don’t you Yowzer?

  • Anonymous

    Milo is God’s country and the hub of the universe. So any family making over $200k/year is ”rich” and should be taxed more?  Is that the general consensus among the social justice folks?

  • Anonymous

    You couldn’t be more mistaken.  Check back in a year and let us know how much your premiums when down.  We got snookered, badly.

  • Anonymous

    Listen to God’s gift to Hampden justify her need to be exempt from the Republicans new health care tax.   http://www.maine.gov/legis/senate/audio/AudioFrame.htm

  • Anonymous

     The Bangor Daily recently showcased a picture of a mooching bear in Baring… 

  • Anonymous

     Well, Duh, yes… What a maroon. You think this is okay? You think that the guy saving $2,500 is going to create a job for you with it, or buy a bigger boat? Hmmm, what would I do?? Can’t believe you asked that stupid of  a question. Definitely from Milo.

  • Anonymous

    How much more should a family making $200k be taxed?  Should they pay 50%?  And you can get stuffed for insulting my beloved Milo. 

  • Anonymous

    DARN… Rates will DOUBLE and coverage will be denied… GOP: You are killing us…

  • Anonymous

    Life treats you pretty good when you have slaves to do your hard physical labor! 

  • Anonymous

    House Speaker Bob Nutting,
    R-Oakland, said in a statement. “This plan is based on proven systems
    in dozens of other states where rates are lower – sometimes dramatically
    lower. To get our economy growing again and create jobs, we need an
    insurance system that Mainers can afford.”  Sounds as if they did their homework.   Something has to give.

    Similar articles:
     

  • Anonymous

     Don’t like paying $10,000.00? get ready to shop!  that what this bill is all about,when you can choose between 20 different companies instead of two, guess what, they start trying to appeal to you instead of the other way around the way it works now.

  • Anonymous

     Just so that you know, James Madison the Author of the Constitution Struggled with the health care  issue as he did not believe that the people should be denied dr’s care due to economic’s.

        He also struggled with the Slavery issue as Did Thomas Jefferson but could not come to grasp the impact that freeing the slaves on thier plantations would have.

  • Anonymous

    Yup! Thats a Big Ten Four! 

  • Anonymous

     I bet you really care what Jesus preached?  You use religion when it’s convenient.  I wonder if you really  care about the poor, you want to use them not help them.

  • Anonymous

    Now the Dems are mad because state employees aren’t required to pay the $4, weren’t the Dems mad a few weeks ago when the state employees were asked to contribute 2% more to their retirement? 

  • Anonymous

    Okay, Mr. Raye. Duly noted.

    Thanks for the shafting. Guess your ambition to be governor has outweighted your decency, common sense, or memory of the people who elected you.

     

  • Anonymous

    I’m self-employed, and this stinks. I’m guessing you all live in the southern part of the state. 

  • Anonymous

    Sure. As long as you’re under 35 and have no health problems you can probably have your pick of companies. Of course, your parents had better not be ill or you’ll end up having to help them pay their premiums… 

  • Anonymous

    Yep. They died in their 40s. 

  • Anonymous

    We need to get over eight years of Reagan and eight years of Bush The Younger first… 

  • Anonymous

    Seems like a step in the right direction. 

  • Anonymous

     Well, let’s see, I’m 55, have had one heart attack, thrombosis in both legs, and I’m about 40lbs overweight, yeah, shopping should be a breeze! LOL, Are you serious, really? I can’t even get AFLAC to consider me, lolololol.  Please don’t bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me cause I’m gonna need it with so many low cost choices coming my way, might as well celebrate. Woot! Woot!

  • Anonymous

    Wow kids, we can get exactly the same plan we have now for a fraction of the cost, and all because of honest competition and the invisible hand! It’s just too good to be true, isn’t it? Wait -what’s that creeping up my backside? Yes – it’s true – it is invisible!

  • yowsayowsa1

     I’m a “bumb a$$.

     It’s my job. 

  • yowsayowsa1

     Cher1? 

  • yowsayowsa1

     Maybe you can get her a third job. 

  • Anonymous

    There are clear economies of scale in health insurance.  Costs will either increase or (more likely) quality will decrease as a result of increased competition.  We have to remember that competitive markets do fail to produce optimal results in some instances, and this is very likely on of those instances.

  • Anonymous

    That’s good the welfare issue is being sorted out. I was just happy about Maine’s  health care getting fixed by ThePage! Now I can understand why he vacationed after only a few months on the job! Have you ever considered running for office Conservativewins?  

  • yowsayowsa1

     Now we know that you can count. 
     
     At least to seven.

  • yowsayowsa1

     Keep guessing. 

  • Anonymous

    Another thing that tells me that this is probably not a good piece of legislation, is the fact that the Chamber and no one else came out in favor of it.  They kept their opinions to themselves.  This is, in my opinion, because the LePage administration is treating them very well in other areas, they agreed to keep their mouths shut. 

  • Anonymous

     Mine will rise by at least $4 a month as soon as this law takes effect, along with most everyone else thanks to the new  “Fee” (aka TAX!).

  • Anonymous

    then stay with what you got >>>> you don have to shop for a better rate if you think you got the best now 

  • Anonymous

    Comments may shock you because you do not live in reality…you know you show you ignorance everytime you comment. You have no idea what being able to shop different companies for insurance can do to lower your rate. Why don’t you move to some communist country where you could fit right in and have no choice 

  • Anonymous

    anything is better thand the rates we pay now .

  • Anonymous

     Everyone except state employees and legislators have to pay the four dollars.  Isn’t it wonderful how they protect themselves.veryone except state employees and legislators have to pay the four dollars.  Isn’t it wonderful how they protect themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone except state employees and legislators. Don’t you just love it.

  • Anonymous

    Ugh please….Plowman….. 

  • Anonymous

    Everyone except state employees and legislators to pay a foutr dollar fee. Don’t you just love it. This is in very bad taste. using their power to exempt themselves. Shame Paul Shame.

  • Anonymous

    Lol. 

  • Anonymous

    Oh my. 

  • Anonymous

    You just don’t get it pal, I am the demographic in rural Maine. In fact, I’m one of the healthy ones for crying out loud. The average age in Mlkt is 47yrs old. That’s the average age if you didn’t get it the first time. What’s the average age in your little corner of the world? 42?, or are the kids graduating high school vowing to stay put because now they can buy health insurance?? I never met anyone under 35 worried about their health insurance if they were single adults, bet you can’t name one either.

  • Anonymous

    I offer t0 all of us with mailboxes, The New National Healthcare Reform Booklet, a citizen companion:

    Our county’s colors of red, white and blue will surround a booklet title  which will be sensitive to people’s feelings.  The opening page next will have a dedication to members of our Financial Committee bill in making self-directed supports and services.  The other half of this page will acknowledge individuals and lists of departments that sponsored the healthcare program.

    The President will have the next page starting with Dear Consumers and ending in words like, “I am very excited to give all of you more choices about how you can arrange services and supports for self-determination”.

    The table of content may list 10 or more sections that will inform you about your new waivers and vendors agencies called, Agency with Choice with Table 1 to show the difference between the role of a healthcare manager (your boss), a support broker, (insurance agent), and independent broker, (you).  You will be directed to use a ton of acronyms with initials like: ISA – individual support agreements.

    The last page a tear off sheet, the most valued page, the frequency asked question with only one question illustrated on the left side of the envelope, “Can I change my mind about this national healthcare  program?”!

  • Anonymous

    sorry cheesecake, my healthcare booklet comment was meant to go to DVDLBT..

  • Anonymous

    Hypocritical, wouldn’t you say??? 

  • Anonymous

     The solution would be get rid of all insurance.  There have been many times in my life I went without insurance and I paid as I went along (even during a pregnancy).  The more insurance that has been offered  to me over the years the more expensive healthcare got.  All most of us need is a high deductible plan.  And people you don’t need to be going to the doctor for every little ache and pain.

  • Anonymous

     If you like the plan you have now hang on to it, unlike Obamacare this bill doesn’t mandate you do anything if you don’t feel the need, I’m 55, self employed and net less than half of the $70,000 income  you state that you make and can’t begin to afford health insurance at the present rates offered by the two companies that up till now offered coverage in Maine. This bill allows people like me to look beyond those two companies and, frankly, if its no cheaper beyond state lines I am in the same position I am now and have lost nothing. Now tell me, where does this bill hurt me?   

  • Anonymous

    Name the states….cricket , cricket

  • Anonymous

    I guess these must be younger people saying these mean things, and I guess they don’t plan on growing up and getting old. I guess they don’t see the whole picture and live in the moment and cannot fathom that older people paid into insurances for 40-50 years and may have rarely used it. I guess they don’t realize these older people, had to pay for the money their parents got as a tax deduction for them or the welfare that they recieved that kept them alive to become mean.
     I wonder how they would feel if their parents and older people started charging them for information, say for how to fix their car, should they see a doctor, how to sew on a button, directions to the mall, what time it is. Yes older people hold the power, next time the younger  ask what date it is they could easily hear “That”ll cost you $20.00″.

     

  • Anonymous

    HERE THIS BANGOR LARGEST INSURANCE COMPANY!!  I AM EXPECTING A LETTER SOON FROM YOU REDUCING AT LEAST 15% COSTS  ON ALL OF MY POLICIES, WITH ALL OF MY EXISTING COVERAGE.  THE OUT OF STATE INS. COMPANIES WILL GET A PHONE CALL SOON FROM ME.  INSURANCE AGENTS AND EMPLOYEES GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER…YOUR PINK SLIPS WILL BE COMING THANKS TO THE REPUBLICANS AND THE PENGUIN.

  • poormaniac

    Am I correct ? You pay about $200. a week for insurance ? That’s 1/3 of the average yearly pay of most Mainers , a little competition and the freedom to shop around may actually help them. I’m glad you put this info out there , I think we should praise our House and Senate for doing something for the people of Maine. Tahnks for your post.

  • Anonymous

    LaPlague and his corrupt repulsive rethugs do the bidding of the corporate power. People be dammed. Government for the corporations, not the people. 

  • Anonymous

    Wasn’t he somehow involved in the overbilling of medicare to the tune of 1.2 million dollars thru his pharmacy? Does that qualify him as an expert on healthcare costs? 

  • poormaniac

    I’m willing to think Anthem has dropped it’s quest for a rate increase and is looking at ways to become more competetive ! 

  • Anonymous

    About time!  Competition will drive the rates down. Harvey, you obviously didn’t take Economics 101!

  • Anonymous

    Can you be specific?  What competitive markets produce inferior goods or services? And “this is very likely one of those instances.”  On What are you basing that statement?

  • Anonymous

    Put your thinking cap on for a minute and stop listening to rhetoric from the bias right. 

    Think for yourself. 

    Competition requires a sufficiant number of people to sway the prices.

    Maines population of 1.3 Million is not about to change the prices set for the 300 million Americans!

    Competition is an empty promise.You have been sold a fairy tale. 

  • Anonymous

     NP I get mistaken for DVDLBT all the time. ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Rparpa.  You nailed it!  This bill will cost Mainers more. 

    Not only is Maine amoung the states with the oldest population: so is New England as a region.  The insurance companies understand the math and demographics very well.   What a stupid mistake Maine has made with this bill.  Rates will go up for almost everyone, especially Mainers over 50 and anyone who lives in a rural area. 

    Anyone who believes rates will actually go down is fooling themselves.  LePage has put another nail in Maine’s coffin.  

  • yowsayowsa1

    Cher1? 

  • yowsayowsa1

     We now know that you can count.

     At least to seven. 

  • Anonymous

    An important point is missed. 

    If we can get access to these plans, then the community ratings will change.  The insurance companies will factor in the costs and risks associated with Maine and viola the ratings go up!  Also, given the size of the groups, most Mainers will be moved to the highest rating group and viola! – the rates go up.

    Insurance companies are not fools.  They know how to price everyone for the highest possible rates and they will keep doing it.

  • yowsayowsa1

     I’m a bumb a$$.
     
     It’s my job. 

  • Anonymous

    Ne_Voter,
    Thanks for helping me understand this better. 

  • Anonymous

     Maine Senate enacts sweeping partisan health insurance reform

    Why is it whenever the Dems were in charge and some scoundrel like Peter Mills crossed over and sided with them, the legislation was hailed as Bi-partisan, but when three Dems side with the Republicnas the headline calls it partisan legislation? 

    Hey BDN your bias is showing again, or should I say your bias is still showing.  No wonder your circulation is plummeting.

  • Anonymous

    I’m in the same boat as you are. However, I’ve looked beyond state lines, the four we will be allowed to look beyond. Sorry. This bill isn’t going to help you. Just the insurance companies. Which is the aim of the bill. If they wanted to help you, they would have allowed you to look in all states. But they don’t. 

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t I hear on the TV news that NONE of the legislators/politicians are paying any insurance coverage????

  • http://www.MaineTaxpayers.com BetterPath

    The passage of L.D. 1333 is a great example of real bipartisanship efforts taking place with our
    Maine legislators, and I sincerely hope we see more cooperative work like this. “Bipartisanship
    is a political situation, usually in the context of a two-party system such as the United States, in which opposing political parties find common ground through compromise.”  (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisanship)

  • Anonymous

    The pain, poverty and suffering coming to Maine will be awful.  Hope the heartless republicans will be proud of themselves.  Nothing they are doing will help Maine in the short run or the long run.

    Wait about two years.  People will suffer and that suffering will spread throughout the entire economy.  The right may hope that poor people move away to remove the problem.  But they won’t move.  This is home. 

    So, what will the right do when people are ill and cannot afford care; when elderly people cannot afford care, or their homes?; when the jobs do not appear?; when cities and towns layoff needed public servants?  They have no answers beyond “cut taxes for the rich”.  That will fix nothing. 

    The republicans are trying a bridge back to the 19th century.  A time when a few people did well, but most were poor.  That is where we are going.

  • Anonymous

     Woohoo!! Congrats and thank you Governor LePage!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe make some lifestyle changes instead of whining about paying for the risks you are currently living with. 

  • Anonymous

    Four is better than none. 

  • Anonymous

    Vermont is just as old and even more rural then Maine.  It probably would not help. 

  • Anonymous

    No, your perception of what he said is incorrect. He corrected you. Accept it. 

  • Anonymous

    Right. The status quo is the only way to go!

    Sheesh. 

  • Anonymous

    Newt Gingrich is out for Newt Gingrich. He’ll never be the GOP nominee.  

  • Anonymous

    You keep mentioning Romney care as the blueprint for Obamacare. Yet no one has explained why, if Romneycare was so great, why didn’t Obama even bother to consult with Romney to find out what works or doesn’t work with the plan? Truth is, this is just another smokescreen tossed up by liberals to deflect blame on the disgustingly bad Obamacare plan.  bad Obamacare plan. 

  • Anonymous

    The most recent data I could find (and I’m in no way suggesting this is accurate or definitive) insurance premiums for a family in MA, RI, CONN and NH are more costly than ME. All are nearly or are the most costly in the country. Also, “four is better than” in any case is not free market, which this bunch claims to be all about.

  • Anonymous

    Thomas Jefferson was 83.
    George Washington was 67.
    Benjamin Franklin was 84.
    John Adams was 91.

  • Anonymous

    Ooh, a conspiracy! 

  • Anonymous

    Massive voter fraud? 

  • Anonymous

    Sheesh, such dramatics.

    Maybe you all could apply for Obamacare waivers like the rest of Obama’s crony friends are getting. 

  • Anonymous

    CAPS button stuck? 

  • Anonymous

    There is nothing dramatic about this.  It is the GOP strategy to keep cutting taxes until we have to undo the New Deal to allow the rich to go back to the time when they little or no taxes and government provided very few services. 

    The problem is it won’t work.  We are not in the 19th century anymore and the mill and factory jobs are gone. The idea that the free market will fill in where government was is nonsense.  It never worked and never will.  The panic of 1893 was similar to the Great Depression and the financial crisis of 2008.  Business not only needs to be controlled, it benefits from regulation.  It really does.  The 19th century was not the halcyon days the right tries to make us believe it was.

    Trying to return to the past will not work and it will only cause pain and suffering that most people cannot imagine.  When it happens the right will call for more tax and spending cuts and that will make the problem worse. 

    We need to be building the middle class, not helping the rich who often invest in overseas growth markets.  Perhaps someone on the right can explain how investing in Asia benefits Maine other than the stockbroker and the people who work as greeters in big box stores.  Just rebuilding the infrastructure in this country alone would create millions of jobs.  Millions.   But, that requires rasising taxes and the right would rather inflict pain on the weak, poor and old.  How proud they must be.

  • Anonymous

    Its not always that the goods and services produced are inferior, they could simply be more expensive.  The traditional example of economies of scale is in electricity supply.  For obvious reasons, it would be more expensive (and confusign) to have several competing firms delivering electricity along their own infrastructure than to have a single firm perform the task, thus a natural monopoly is formed.  Landline telephone service is the same way, relying on expansive infrastructure.  Cellular phone service, on the other hand, does not have this characteristic, and thus is far more competitive. 

    Health insurance lacks the physical economies of scale comparable to utility services, but there are several key factors that make competition inferior.  First, risk is unevenly spread out in a competitive health insurance industry.  Medicare is so expensive because it covers only the group with the highest risk.  States which force insurance companies to cover everyone have less competitive insurance industries because they fail to effectively limit price, resulting in a situation in which the lowest risk groups are cut out and only higher risk cohorts remain.  States which allow insurers to cherry-pick, however, have more competition and lower prices because they can cut out higher risk groups.  Its important to remember, however, that just because the insurance companies can avoid the cost of insuring higher-risk populations, that doesn’t mean that society doesn’t have to bear the cost in some manner.  In many cases, these folks must use the emergency room for access to primary care.  This is by far the most expensive way of providing this care, and when these bills are inevitably written off by the hospital as bad debt, the bad debt expense is rolled back into the cost of services to everyone else because it is part of the overall cost structure of the firm.  This effectively amounts to a public subsidy to the profits of health insurers, even though the government isn’t involved at all.

    Another way that competition can be increased is overall deregulation, slackening the rules to which insurers must conform.  This, too, is a poor answer to the problem because insurance companies are universally corporate.  This means that they have a legal obligation to hold bottom-line profits above all other interests.  Insurance companies, then, cannot be expected to produce a socially optimal result in the absence of regulation.  Although competition may increase, it will never increase to a level that makes consumer choice a factor in profit motivation (pure competition), instead the firms would likely operate as an oligopoly.  To be fair, lots of industries operate in this way, but few of them have the social impact of the health insurance industry and don’t necessarily warrant interventionism.

    The answer, then, in my opinion is to eliminate competition in the health insurance industry and regulate the resulting monopoly, but it has to be done at the national level.  State governments can affect no positive change of any kind on this front. This is in contrast to the publicly-run single payer schemes instituted in other countries, because I fear it risks turning health insurance into a political football, and there are inherent risks to doing so in America that don’t exist as much in other places.  This would lower both direct costs, and indirect costs like provider overhead related to multiple payers.

  • Anonymous

    One Republican vote on a Dem bill would have been declared bipartisan by the BDN 

  • Anonymous

    Read this and then tell me how Economics 101 applies to Monopolies!

    http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/compstudy_52006.pdf

    The trend in health care insurance is for consolidations and accqusitions.

       In the end there will be just a small handfull of Insurers that will be allowed to set the rates as they see fit and little oversight for the consumer.

    Same as Oil Companies!

    I am sure competition is NOT in thier game plan.

  • Anonymous

    Gringrich, Trump, Huckabee, Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, They are all cut from the same Cloth. 

    Fly Paper.

    they keep up the Lies!

    and they are dropping like Flies!

  • Anonymous

    Read This!

     http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/compstudy_52006.pdf

    Now tell me about (competition) as Insurance Companies are being goobled up by acqusitions and mergers.

        I couldn’t help but laugh in amazment last night on the channel 5 news when Republicans claimed that this will help the insurance companies prepare for the Federal  Health Care Reform. ( Indead It Will!)

       When they consolidate all these Insurance companies down to just a few they will have full reigns to charge what they see fit with the Tiered Premium Rate Law in Maine.

    As for Competition! Thats just a Sales word to get it passed!

  • Anonymous

    Read This!  http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/p…Now tell me about (competition) as Insurance Companies are being goobled up by acqusitions and mergers.    I couldn’t help but laugh in amazment last night on the channel 5 news when Republicans claimed that this will help the insurance companies prepare for the Federal  Health Care Reform. ( Indead It Will!)   When they consolidate all these Insurance companies down to just a few they will have full reigns to charge what they see fit with the Tiered Premium Rate Law in Maine.As for Competition! Thats just a Sales word to get it passed!
     

  • Anonymous

     Read This!  http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/p…    It appears to me that they have a valid concern that Insurance Companies are being goobled up by Mergers and Acquizitions. The end result would be Monopolies that have control of pricing eliminating free markets for medical services!

    The same will hold true for Premiums as monopolies will have control of them as well.

  • Anonymous

    Are you talking about Obama Care??? Did you vote for him???? Then blame him!!!! Not new Maine Law…. The Federal Government needs to stay out of States business… I’m sure you love Obama care and will vote for him again, yet your complaining about his policies…Hahaha!!!  Which side you on?? Cheaper healthcare or Obama care???  I know it’s confusing… loyalities compromise the conscience!!! 

  • Anonymous

      You didn’t read it. So I give up, you are a lost cause to me, I was hoping that I could help you see the light.

    Tune in to Rush, he will give you the light through reflective prisms!

  • newportres

     ”Republicans picked up three Democrats in the Senate after amending the bill to address lawmakers’ concerns about rising rates in rural areas and insurance companies forcing policyholders to travel long distances for care.”

    Funny but when Dems were in charge BDN would have considered this a “bi-partisan” vote.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t listen to Rush, I am uninrolled, when there is a chance that something is being passed to actually help the people I get excited… Both sides are full of corporate whores, working to take more and more from the people weather it be freedoms or money.. This is much better than doing nothing and can be tweeked in the future… I hope it will benifit the people… We will never live in “Eden”  nor do I ever want to live in a utopia where everyone wears sandles and walks around like zombies… We cannot take away peoples freedoms of choice to protect a few… This country and this State are in a mess and anything that gives people some of their rights of choice back I’m for…   

  • Anonymous

       If you stop shooting from the hip and read the American Medical Associations report, (who by the way, Represent Doctors.) you can see that they have (Valid Concerns) that Health Insurance Industry  giants are buying up the smaller companies through mergers and acquisitions. This eliminates competition, and CHOICES that you say that you are FOR.
       While they are grabbing up these smaller companies at Alarming Rates, they are pushing for laws in States like Maine to allow for tiered Premium rates that discriminate against older people because that is who Considerably More Benefits are paid to.

        So when this is all said and done, the Choices that you are in agreement with, WON”T BE THERE! Because the Companies that will have been gobbled up by the giants WONT BE THERE!

    The end result is a Monopoly With the ability to raise premiums as they see fit!

    The Choices that they are selling this on, may be Gone with the Mergers!

    So much for FREE Markets!

      

  • Anonymous

     Then you sir, sadly, are delusional. Insurance companies have one paradigm, and that is profit.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a fee not a tax.  If you don’t like it that’s fine but you’ll be able to save on cigerettes at least $96.00 since those won’t have any tax increases. 

  • Anonymous

    That is very unfair to poke fun at conservativewin and I. We were just sharing our thoughts and hopes for this new health bill.  It’s not funny lynne14 so stop with your Lols.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! Thanks, you just answered the question! 

  • Anonymous

    Looks, like they DO share brain cells! 

    Scroll Back!

ADVERTISEMENT | Grow your business

Marketplace Coupons

ADVERTISEMENT | Grow your business