Mural’s planned removal heats up labor dispute

Posted March 23, 2011, at 8:34 p.m.
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AUGUSTA, Maine — Gov. Paul LePage’s plan to remove a mural depicting the history of the state’s labor movement is adding fuel to the fire of the already contentious debate between the Republican administration and labor forces over pension benefits and union membership.

The $60,000 artwork, purchased with federal funds, was installed in the lobby of the Maine Department of Labor offices in 2008, shortly after its move into the leased office complex on Commerce Drive in Augusta. But after what administration officials characterized as a handful of recent complaints about the perceived message behind the mural, the governor ordered its removal.

“When you walk into that lobby, there’s a clear message that comes across,” said the governor’s press secretary, Adrienne Bennett, citing complaints about the pro-union themes in the artwork.  “There’s a new message in Augusta, and that’s that the governor works for the people, all the people, not just a single group.”

The move comes within days of union rallies at the State House and LePage’s ceremonial raising of an “Open for Business,” sign under the “Welcome to Maine” sign on Interstate 95 in Kittery. The governor has made clear his support for “right to work” laws, which would allow workers in union shops to forgo paying dues if they choose not to join the union. Unions oppose such laws because they say they are required to represent all workers in a union shop regardless of whether they are members, and it’s already illegal to force workers to become union members.

LePage also has called for unionized state workers to contribute more of their paychecks to the state’s pension system. He also has proposed caps on cost-of-living adjustments for state retirees and supports an increase in the minimum retirement age for new hires and anyone with less than five years of service.

Bennett said Wednesday the decision to remove the mural is not meant to antagonize union forces.

But Sen. Troy Jackson, an Allagash Democrat and logger heavily involved in labor issues, said the mural’s planned removal is just one more hostile act by an anti-union governor. Jackson said he never viewed the mural as overly pro-labor, and he wonders why anyone would be offended by the depictions of the history of the state’s own labor movement. The decision to remove the mural, Jackson said, is a petty move that is emblematic of the governor’s approach to labor issues, he said.

“It just goes to show their attitude toward organized labor,” Jackson said. “We should be working to make businesses more attracted to Maine and should raise up workers’ wages and health benefits, not tear them down like we are tearing down a mural on the wall. I just think it is very petty.”

Administration officials provided one written complaint about the mural, but said more informal complaints were raised with the governor’s office.

“In studying the mural I also observed that this mural is nothing but propaganda to further the agenda of the union movement,”  reads the written complaint, dated Feb. 24, and penned to LePage by a “secret admirer.” “I felt for a moment that I was in communist North Korea where they use these murals to brainwash the masses.”

But the mural artist, Judy Taylor of Tremont, said Wednesday that the painting is not about politics. The artwork, which was installed in the lobby in August 2008, is about the history of Maine and should be treated as such, she said.

“It’s not a political statement,” Taylor said, while on a break between teaching art classes at All Saints Catholic School in Bangor. “I’ve never heard a complaint about the mural. Most people take it as a learning experience.”

Marcia Diamond, principal of All Saints Catholic School, said Wednesday that is how the school approached it. Faculty and pupils were aware of Taylor’s involvement in the mural’s commission and talked about the mural and Maine’s labor history as part of the school’s regular history curriculum, Diamond said. When the mural officially was unveiled, several members of the school’s staff attended the event, she said.

“We’re very proud of the work she does,” Diamond says. “She’s an excellent art teacher.”

Taylor said she spent a year working on the project, which consists of 11 panels, each nearly 8 feet high, that stretch for 36 feet along the lobby wall. She said she worked closely with Charles Scontras, a labor historian and former University of Maine professor, in choosing the scenes to be depicted in the mural.

“It’s enough to make you weep,” Scontras, whose likeness is depicted as a cobbler in the mural’s first panel, said Wednesday. “I think this will produce quite a bit more reaction than [LePage] imagines.”

Scontras said that Maine’s Franco-American community, which include LePage’s ancestors, benefited greatly from the state’s labor movement in the early 20th century. The mural’s removal, he said, is more about partisan politics than it is about helping people.

“I just don’t see getting rid of the panels as doing anything for his budget problem,” Scontras said. “You just don’t erase a historical and cultural legacy.”

According to Taylor’s website, some of the mural panels depict women shipbuilders during World War II, the 1986 International Paper strike in Jay, and former federal Secretary of Labor Frances Perkins, whose family homestead in Newcastle is now the Frances Perkins Center. The 11th panel depicts a worker from the past offering a hammer to modern-day workers “who are unsure of its value in a changing world,” the website says.

Beyond the mural’s removal, LePage also has called for the renaming of several of the labor department’s conference rooms, one of which is named after Perkins, another for Scontras, and yet another for Cesar Chavez,  an iconic labor leader and civil rights activist.

Laura Fortman, the labor commissioner under Democratic Gov. John Baldacci, on  Wednesday criticized what she called LePage’s “sweeping action.” She said it was especially troubling because it comes so close to the 100th anniversary of a tragic fire at the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory that claimed the lives of 146 garment workers in New York City and inspired Perkins in her efforts to strengthen workers’ rights.

“It just seems like when you have tens of thousands of Mainers looking for work, to focus on changing the names of rooms and and taking down murals is … interesting,” said Fortman, who described the mural as a meaningful and accurate depiction of the history of Maine’s labor movement.

“It is a powerful work of art, and I think the governor’s action is a testament to its power,” said Fortman, adding that news of its imminent removal was “hard to hear.”

David Clough of the Maine Federation for Independent Business said he saw the reasoning behind LePage’s requests regarding the mural’s removal and the renaming of the conference rooms.

“I know conference rooms A and B aren’t the most remarkable, but they are probably the least offensive,”  said Clough, whose organization represents small-business interests.

While changing the name of a conference room is relatively simple in a logistical sense, moving a massive mural isn’t.

Taylor said the mural can be removed without being damaged. But her first choice is to have it remain in the MDOL lobby, she added.

The mural could be closer to a new home, however.

While Bennett said Wednesday that efforts to place the work in the Maine State Museum were not fruitful because the museum does not display modern works, another undisclosed museum has offered to put the mural on display.

Administration officials are working with the Maine Arts Commission to find a home for the mural, but there is no timeline for its removal and relocation, she said.

Taylor said that when the mural was erected, she never imagined that anyone would order its removal two and a half years later.

“I would say this is a very short lifespan,” Taylor said. “I feel like it should definitely stay.”

BDN writer Kevin Miller contributed to this report.

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  • kcjonez

    Paul Le Page–News flash!
    Ms. Taylors mural represents the PEOPLE of the state of Maine.
    Your “order” to remove it represents the aggressive and vindictive action of the oppressor.

    If you want to create jobs, hire someone to paint you a mural–don’t destroy our art and history to further your own shortsighted moralistic agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chuckrates Chuck McKay

    LePage will get what’s coming to him – http://wp.me/p1iOXb-a2

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3X7SFRHODRS2WLWYPQD5G5DEAY bmy

    “There’s a new message in Augusta, and that’s that the governor works for the people, all the people, not just a single group.”

    That’s right, let’s not forget the gub’nuh’s efforts on behalf of the BPA lobby.

  • Anonymous

    First the Whoopie Pie, then the Blueberry Pie, now a Mural, geez someday job creation will get talked about.

  • Anonymous

    You can read Acting Commissioner Boyett’s email to the staff at MDOL here:

    http://bit.ly/ftO9Yb

    From it:

    “We have received feedback that the administration building is not perceived as equally receptive to both businesses and workers – primarily because of the nature of the mural in the lobby and the names of our conference rooms. Whether or not the perception is valid is not really at issue and therefore, not open to debate. If either of our two constituencies perceives that they are not welcome in our administration building and this translates to a belief that their needs will not be heard or met by this department, then it presents a barrier to achieving our mission.”

    The complete list of room names at Dept. of Labor that LePage has ordered changed is here:

    http://bit.ly/dLJWIQ

  • Anonymous

    And how much of the taxpayers’ money will be spent removing this? And since when does a handful of complaints be the final decision for the rest of us?

  • Anonymous

    This is a disgusting and irrational action by LePage. The Maine Department of Labor was established to protect the Maine workers’ rights. The mural is very appropriate. And, I don’t for a second believe that more than one anonymous person mentioned the mural. It is very clear that LePage does not care one little bit about the people of Maine, unless you are one of the few wealthier people.

  • Anonymous

    Does LePage do anything else all day besides thinking up new ways to look like an ignoramus?

  • Anonymous

    the mural represents only one population of maine people… blue collar workers. And while this is a very important aspect of maine’s business, and the state couldnt survive without this working class, it fails to represent the large percentage of people who do not contribute as tax payers, and also fails to represent small business owners, and those who participate in non-labor positions. If we want to represent maine people, we need to represent ALL mainers. having that mural up is influential as it evokes a specific mindset about what maine people “are”…inaccurately.

  • Anonymous

    the mural represents only one population of maine people… blue collar workers. And while this is a very important aspect of maine’s business, and the state couldnt survive without this working class, it fails to represent the large percentage of people who do not contribute as tax payers, and also fails to represent small business owners, and those who participate in non-labor positions. If we want to represent maine people, we need to represent ALL mainers. having that mural up is influential as it evokes a specific mindset about what maine people “are”…inaccurately.

  • Anonymous

    the mural represents only one population of maine people… blue collar workers. And while this is a very important aspect of maine’s business, and the state couldnt survive without this working class, it fails to represent the large percentage of people who do not contribute as tax payers, and also fails to represent small business owners, and those who participate in non-labor positions. If we want to represent maine people, we need to represent ALL mainers. having that mural up is influential as it evokes a specific mindset about what maine people “are”…inaccurately.

  • Anonymous

    Why are you all so anti-business? Don’t you all realize that the only way we can pull this state out of the horrible financial pit it is in is by being friendly to business? We ranked last in the country last year for business friendly environment. The state cannot support its ever-growing welfare dependent population without attracting businesses to the area to provide more jobs and financial growth. The state will self-implode as it continues to drive tax-payers and businesses out of the state.

  • Anonymous

    I had assumed that these murals were commissioned under the Maine Art’s Commission’s Percent for Art Project, but when I went to the Commission’s Percent for Art Project Directory, which purports to have completed projects back to 1979, I couldn’t find the murals.

    Does any reader know the program under which the Commission contracted with the artist for these murals?

  • Anonymous

    The Governor, still has not grasped his own rhetoric, once elected he is governor of all the people not just business interests. What he appears to mean when he speaks of “all the people” is that the interests of Mainers is identical to the interest of business. The two have much in common, but not everything, one important way they differ is in their understanding of the value of unions.
    Clearly in this arena, the governor, is a partisan, and not a Governor.

  • Tea42

    Without the working men and women – where is your business?

  • Tea42

    He is a Plutocrat.

    A rich man carving an even bigger niche for the rich.

    Workers – in his view – are to be used by the rich. That’s all.

  • Tea42

    Each day is a challenge to find something to stick up, tear down, or, degrade.

  • Tea42

    It depicts labor.

  • Anonymous

    Majority of teachers are women.
    The artist who painted the mural, female.
    Take away Planed Parent Hood again for women.
    How many women has he selected for his cabinet?
    It is obvious this male chauvinist Lepig hates the women of Maine.

  • kcjonez

    You should read the full report by the US Chamber of Commerce on why Maine is supposedly so bad for business and who our bad company states are. Very enlightening. And stupid wrong. I’ll take Maine over Mississippi any day thank you.

    http://www.uschamber.com/reports/impact-state-employment-policies-job-growth-50-state-review

  • Anonymous

    No, not anti-business…..pro workers. They should not be mutually exclusive.

  • Anonymous

    He does a real good job of that. (wonder how much effort it takes, or does it just come naturally…)

  • kcjonez

    FYI–I am a small business owner with no ties to any unions. Judy Taylor’s mural represents me very well thank you. Governor Paul LePage represents out of state special interests. His order to remove this mural is an attack on unions, workers, artists, women, teachers, historians and pretty much everyone with a conscience.

  • Anonymous

    He is a divisive figure….and he gets a big laugh out of it too.

  • Anonymous

    What a small minded person he is.

  • Anonymous

    This is at best a petty and passive aggressive act worthy of a middle-school kid. Unions brought us the 40 hour work week, an end to child labor, and many other hard-won benefits. Was it wrong to do that and wrong for us to honor their achievement?

    The mural is in the Labor dept, for pete’s sake. LePage has acted with an utter lack of diplomacy in a way that shows gross ignorance of history and serious incompetence as a bridge-builder.

    I can’t think of a more immature way to peeve and polarize the people of Maine.

    All of a sudden, a tyrant comes to town.

  • Anonymous

    What is up with LePage? Burger Meister Meister Burger syndrome???……….

  • Anonymous

    It’s a surprise to me that we’re paying Mr. LePage for doing interior decorating work.

  • Anonymous

    hey lepage….it’s the department of labor, not the department of corporations….where do you think a mural depicting labor should be displayed? if this is government for the people, by the people….did you take the time to find out how the people of the state feel about this?

  • Anonymous

    And removing this mural will cause how many new businesses to move to Maine?

  • Anonymous

    Now, that is a funny comment! Definitely!

  • Anonymous

    This story has already gone national. Just imagine what it is going to do for our number 1 industry this summer. Tax revenues generated by tourism is most likely going to be down.

  • Anonymous

    Governor “Bluster” Lepage is dead wrong on this issue – - he is an ignorant man and if such a thing is possible he should be recalled or forced to resign. In the future we should change the election process in Maine so that a man with only 38% of the vote is NOT elected. This man does NOT represent the voters of the State of Maine.

  • Anonymous

    It is the department of Labor not the department of business.

    Our new governor strikes again. Imagine the unfair bias exhibited by the Maine Department Labor having artwork depicting the struggles of labor on its walls. That would be unfair to the poor oppressed businesses I suppose. We know how abusive those laborers are of business rights. So why not give space for the history of labors oppression and exploitation of the corporation. No our governor hoof in mouth seeks to censor historic labor art now.

    We have a plague sweeping our nation and its roots are in corporate sponsorship of political candidates. This is the result of the people sleeping through the election process and buying whatever their corporations are marketing. Business does not create jobs. opportunity creates jobs and businesses exploit labor for profit. But when we allow business to elect our representatives this is what we get. The Mural at the Maine Department of Labor doesn’t hurt business, it simply depicts the struggle of labor throughout history. Anyone with an ounce of understanding of the labor abuses of the past can appreciate this. Our Governor apparently can’t

    The mural is appropriate art in historical context in an appropriate venue so if its fairness that you seek governor, why not dedicate an equal area to the struggles of business against labor?

  • Anonymous

    It is the Department of Labor not the Department of Business

    Our new governor strikes again. Imagine the unfair bias exhibited by the Maine Department Labor having artwork depicting the struggles of labor on its walls. That would be unfair to the poor oppressed businesses I suppose. We know how abusive those laborers are of business rights. So why not give space for the history of labors oppression and exploitation of the corporation. No our governor hoof in mouth seeks to censor historic labor art now.

    We have a plague sweeping our nation and its roots are in corporate sponsorship of political candidates. This is the result of the people sleeping through the election process and buying whatever their corporations are marketing. Business does not create jobs. opportunity creates jobs and businesses exploit labor for profit. But when we allow business to elect our representatives this is what we get. The Mural at the Maine Department of Labor doesn’t hurt business, it simply depicts the struggle of labor throughout history. Anyone with an ounce of understanding of the labor abuses of the past can appreciate this. Our Governor apparently can’t

    The mural is appropriate art in historical context in an appropriate venue so if its fairness that you seek governor, why not dedicate an equal area to the struggles of business against labor?

  • Anonymous

    So dedicate an equal area to the historic abuses that labor has committed against business. You don’t censor labor art in the department of labor. If you want to be fair to business, give them the same amount of space for their historic struggle its as simple as that.

  • Anonymous

    Revising history, now that’s scary.

  • Anonymous

    I truly believe Paul LePage is mentally unstable. And did I read correctly that the complaint was penned by a “secret admirer?” Are third-graders running the show now? God help us. The next four years are going to be a wild ride.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B6MYUMB47NHIYQD62Q3CTIA7YA Diane Beal

    “Re-home” the mural at the Kittery rest area!

    The poor Moonbats are coming UNHINGED. The crazy talk gets funnier and funnier every single day!
    LOL, LOL!!!!

  • Anonymous

    if it’s a sole proprietorship, you’re doing just fine….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    First of all, I love the mural. It is well done and powerful.

    It is done in a style, though, that is reminiscent of the kinds of posters from the early days of Communism in the Soviet Union and those of the counter-culture, new-left movement of the 60′s and 70′s. This is the reason the Left is so upset about the removal and the reason the right finds them offensive.

    LePage was elected, first and foremost, to counter 30+ years of far left control over Maine’s Democratic Party and government. Removing these panels is a good first step in shocking the socialist culture that is deeply rooted in the Department of Labor.

    I am sure that all the truly outraged employees there will tender their resignations immediately.

  • Anonymous

    yes, Michelle Obama is all about it….

  • Anonymous

    If it’s got the slime throwers on here upset it must be a good thing…LOL…Governor LePage was on Howie Carr today talking about it…The audio is at HowieCarr.com. He was GREAT…Go LePage GO!!!!

  • Anonymous

    This is no bridge-builder and he never had any intentions of being one.
    Yes, “immature” is another good adjective to describe him.

  • Anonymous

    I think you are right.

  • Anonymous

    Gov. LePage is not an ignorant man. He is an educated man who thrives on ignorance. The symbolism is a hair above burning a flag. The people he intends to shock will rise up and show him he should have bought it when he saw it.

  • Jazz11

    SHAME!

  • Anonymous

    Sadly the number 1 industry will be us: The object of jokes on late night TV. The actions of LePage so far has resulted in making Maine a laughing stock.

  • Anonymous

    Sad, but true.

  • Anonymous

    Well he does do a very good job of thinking up new ways to torque the ass of the liberals.
    Well worth the few minutes a day it takes.

  • Anonymous

    Artist? Really?
    Looks like it’s out of the pages of a 6 year old’s coloring book anyway.
    Good riddance.

  • Anonymous

    In 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft spent $8,000 on curtains to cover an art work in Washington, D.C.. He was offended because the statue “The Spirit of Justice” had one breast exposed. So much for art deco!

    Perhaps, LePage and the clowns who are advising him on this latest symbolic attack should use the same approach? Go down to one of our fine fabric stores in Maine, pick up a few dozen yards of dark cloth and some of that nice wide silver tape we are well known for. Cover the faces of all the working people in the mural, so that viewers cannot tell the difference between a child laborer and Rosie the Riveter.

    Better yet, just skip the fabric and buy a bigger roll of tape. That’s even a better stunt to get coverage by the conservative punditry. A bigger roll—isn’t that what Maine politics LePage style has all come down to 2011?

  • http://twitter.com/gregdavid Gregory Kibitz

    The Meek Shall Inherit, but surely not under LePage!

    The Right already has the Lion’s Share, but now they want the Lamb’s Share as well!

    The “taxpayers” have been paying less and less taxes year after year for 50 years now, and reaping more and more of the benefits of Labor’s efforts for over 30 years now with the average middle class laborer, government worker or service sector employee barely able to even call themselves middle class anymore. Yet until they are all in poverty and can be controlled, exploited and enslaved, the “taxpayers” will not stop.

    Taxcuts have never created ANY JOBS and squeezing the working class just further erodes the consumer spending class and thus just destorys the already failing economy. And erasing the real historical gains of the labor movement, will only better ensure that history will be repeated. So keep chipping away becuase soon enough we will be coming back tenfold and you ‘taxpayers” will some day be our slaves or at least imprisioned criminals of which most of you should be!

    FUN FUN FUN!

  • Anonymous

    Thoses of you who say he hates women in these posts don’t understand.
    He is replacing all the murals in Augusta with life size portraits of Lauren LePage,his daughter.

    No see,don’t you feel better already!!!!

  • Anonymous

    There aren’t big enough walls to put that buffalo up.
    Will she be doing her nails and working on her Facebook?
    His new show can be called Jake and the Fatman.

  • Anonymous

    OK, we are outraged. How do we stop this? We need to be heard, and we need Gov. LaPage to understand –that he is not doing the job we want him to do. We need to have our voices heard. HOW will we accomplish this before he does anything even more outrageous ?

  • Anonymous

    and when they are gone, this state will have a hard time replacing them with competent people.

  • Anonymous

    LePage has NO right to have this panel removed… There is NO right to have RICH GOP business men on a panel…!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Who sends faxes these days? And don’t these usually come with the phone number printed on top, so it wouldn’t really be anonymous.

  • Anonymous

    Mississippi is at the very bottom in the nation in so many things — terrible education, health care, living conditions.

  • Anonymous

    Dirigo Blue, a Maine blog, should get a medal from some press organization. They broke this story with the letter from the Labor Department bureaucrat and they are getting all sort of inside information. Why aren’t the big newspapers doing as well?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YE3XFN7AV6MWMPAVMVPYVSEQEY sweetie

    This comment is about as bright as a burnt out light bulb in a coal mine.

  • Anonymous

    This mural is huge and overpowers the room which it is in and also it is not a very good representation of working people in Maine. It is not being destroyed but rather most likely being sent over to the museum.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719791897 Chris Grindle

    Looks like class warfare to me…started by the ditto heads and the teabaggers. There is more of us than there is of you,and in the end we will win. Lepage can thank Libby Mitchell that he won the election,he wont be so lucky next round. I really cant understand why Lepage and his minions are so afraid of workers unionizing. Maine is already a “right to work state”,with only %12 of our labor force belonging to a union.

  • Anonymous

    Thats very hurtful:)
    Nails and Facebook thingy I know nothing about,do you?

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps the people who are offended by the mural won’t mind putting their kids to work for fifty cents a day rather than use them as a tax deduction?

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for showing for showing the murals

  • Anonymous

    This administration has no ideas and can only focus on small, petty issues. There is only one word that comes to mind: RECALL!

    If this is where we are after 3 months or so, imagine how bad the next 3 and 1/2 years will be.

    RECALL!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JFBKOI7EXRX7MUJFO4JAI3LTQ4 James

    An old saying comes to mind: those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. This is jsut small minded and vindictive.

  • StillRelaxin

    Just the latest stone headed move like many that came before (No time to list em all now, like “small beards” from too much BPA) and many more that will be coming to us in the near future. Do you think it could have something to do with the fact that none of the healthy working people shown in the murel look anything like him? Perhaps he’s simply feeling left out?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JFBKOI7EXRX7MUJFO4JAI3LTQ4 James

    When it comes from a handful of LeRage’s corporate string pullers.

  • yowsayowsa1

    WOW!
    I guess I didn’t realize how pervasive and deep seated this anti-business mindset has become entrenched in Augusta over the last 30 years.
    Any business that inquired about available labor for a new startup would surely turn tail and run after seeing this communist propaganda.

    Go Paul Lepage.

    You’re going to need all the help you can get to repair thirt years of this bu11$h1t.

  • Anonymous

    FYourI–I am a small business owner with no ties to unions. Sixty thousand tax dollars for any artwork in any government building is unnecessary given our state’s finances. Who lacks a conscience? Sixty thousand dollars to expand my office would mean more patients treated, more income, and more dollars donated “locally”, and a cheerful giver. I guess someone not agreeing with you can have a conscience too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1669213035 Joey Sargent

    I think Governor LePage has a staff meeting every morning at 6 AM sharp on any day that he isn’t on the front page. His opening comments are, “I’m not on the front page today! What are you going to do about it?” And that sets the day’s agenda. Look for a change of name soon as Governor LePage officially becomes Governor FrontPage.

  • Anonymous

    60,000 for this piece of junk art. Chavez room? what did this guy ever do in maine? This type of stuff needs to end

  • http://www.MaineRTW.com BetterPath

    Great decision by Governor LePage, but this is only the tip of an iceberg related to the pro-socialism push by the big labor union bosses. For example, just look at how Harlan Baker is using his state email address (paid for with our tax dollars) to show his support for the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) – “the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International.” Need proof? Just visit their pro-socialism website at http://www.dsausa.org/about/localinfo/locals.html and http://www.dsausa.org. It’s time for Maine taxpayers to take action against the greedy labor union bosses and their anti-American actions. Where do you sit on this major issue… Are you one of the good people pulling-the-wagon or are you part of the crowd looking for a free ride at the expense of others?

  • Anonymous

    This is over the top disgusting. How is removing the mural at the taxpayers’ expense in response to a “handful of complaints” not pandering to special interests? Ms. Bennett is quoted as saying, “There’s a new message in Augusta, and that’s that the governor works for the people, all the people, not just a single group.”

    Are you effing kidding me?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O2XIKWAXX4X2RCMN32TY7NVPC4 John

    yes, which books would you like to start burning first? Mao’s little red book, the Manifesto, Catcher in the Rye?

  • Anonymous

    Why not? I bet it won’t cost the taxpayers of America nearly as much to get it removed as it did to get it installed, and a mural supporting union takeovers of our businesses is a bit one-sided to say the least, contrary to the ‘progressive movement’ of this countries pro union crowd there are just as many against the unions of today, this is a total different atmosphere in business than of the era of the big unions and the laws that are in place to protect ALL workers in our state do what the unions claim they are doing WITHOUT costing the workers a dime from their wages.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-A-Woodbury/100001486780100 David A. Woodbury

    If JasonWeb is surprised we’re paying LePage to decorate, did he express equal surprise to learn that we paid Baldacci to decorate when it was put up? You know what it looks like to me? The statues and posters and billboards I saw in Russia: Workers of the world, unite! The “labor movement” in this country is no longer about labor, it’s about control. Just as they don’t want management in charge of workers, unions don’t want individual workers in charge of themselves either.

  • cfd130

    $60,000 art work purchased with TAXPAYER dollars-and politicians cant figure out why we are getting mad

  • Anonymous

    How so?

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Maine, the way Fascism should be.

  • Anonymous

    “I’m a divider, not a uniter!” –Paul LePage

  • Anonymous

    What was Italy’s economic growth under Mussolini?

  • Anonymous

    The pot calling the kettle black.

  • kcjonez

    My apology if I have offended your conscience. Your cheerful local donations are most welcome in our current business climate. But, to follow your objection of public art to it’s logical conclusion, we should remove all our war memorials, public parks, public museums, historic areas etc. I would prefer to increase these types of public projects that reinforce our knowledge of history and appreciation of beauty, not remove them.

  • Anonymous

    Maine, more than most states was built by the efforts of workers. The mill and factory owners came to Maine looking for cheap natural resources and cheap labor. The existence of the mills and factories (wood products, fish canneries, textiles and food products) allowed the middle class that provided other goods and services to develop.

    Without labor Maine would not exist. Attacking working people is cowardly and shows ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    The unions have been severely compromised by extremely radical people. The Union leaders need to be questioned as to their real goals. They have become as dangerous as the Mafia. Take down the mural.

  • Anonymous

    Aren’t there more important things for LePage to worry about than removing this mural? While he attacks the labor movement and the working people of Maine, our infrastructure is deteriorating, the job outlook is bleak, and andworking people are fighting for survival! LePage should stop picking fights just to get attention. It’s like we’re dealing with an ornery 2 year old for goodness sake!

  • Anonymous

    Like it or not, unions are a part of our labor history and did have their place at one point in time. I don’t support unions because I feel they have outlasted their usefulness, but that doesn’t erase the fact that they did have a place in our labor history. What other areas of history does the governor propose we ignore just because people don’t like it?

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” ~ George Santayana

  • Anonymous

    And what are those abuses, specifically? Honestly, I’d like to know what you are referring to.

  • Anonymous

    Did you know that the 1st Lady get more death threats, than the President? I think this is a very sad day. some of us care more about destroying, the American Dream.. then living it…Yup I think we should just let the corporations, have our kids when they turn 5, teach them to work12 hour days…of course they be dead by the time they’re 15 or 16…but who really cares…think of all the money they corps. will have to dangle in front of us!!!

  • Anonymous

    Maine AFL-CIO President Don Berry issued a statement condemning the announcement, saying, “No matter what you name a room, no matter how many pictures you take down, the truth is that this state was built by and for working people and this move dishonors the generations of hard-working Mainers who came before us. Paul LePage cannot erase our history, and he will not silence the voice of the working class in Maine.”

  • Tyke

    Lepage, ONCE AGAIN, did something so disrespectful and incredibly stupid he is getting international press coverage that ONCE AGAIN is making Maine look like a backward state full of uniformed willfully ignorant fools.

    “Our” governor has clearly decided he does not wish to represent that vast majority of hard working Maine citizens who are proud of the sacrifices made by our predecessors to improve our lives.

    Well the majority of us, who did not vote for a total buffoon as governor, agree and are doing what we can to limit the harm he does to our state.

    For those wishing to join this majority, here are the links (one Facebook, one to the regular internet page):

    http://www.facebook.com/61percent?sk=wall
    http://www.mainesmajority.org/

  • Anonymous

    This “new” national Republican junta seems awfully anti-American, to this observer. So many freedoms/rights that our ancestors fought and died for, and I’m not referring to wars, are being eradicated with a stroke of a pen. I thought jobs were Priority One for these folks. At least that’s what they indicated prior to the last election. Oops, fooled again.

  • Tyke

    You didn’t bother to learn how this was paid for, huh?

    … and do you REALLY think this very clear message to working Mainers that we can “kiss his butt” will save taxpayers money?

    No – Lepage has added costs by doing this, and now WE have to pay for his ignorance (again).

    btw: Were you aware that Lepage’s proposed budget is 8% HIGHER than Baldacci’s last one? The fool is growing government and his apologists are too blind too see it!

  • Anonymous

    The won’t be re-hiring competent people because in a meritocracy the smartest person is at the top, right?

  • Tyke

    Maine laborers have “abused” Maine businesses???

    I have to assume this post is a parody. There is no other explanation that even begins to make sense.

  • Anonymous

    The BDN in recent years has been very good at re-writing history in everything from The Cold War in numerous editorials to repeatedly calling people racists where it didn’t happen. The progressives at the BDN should look to their own “Ministry of Truth”. The marriage of Big Labor, Democrats and powerful bureaucrats and the progressive media (including the BDN) have all contributed to an anti-business environment that is nationally recognized among the worst.
    If this is simply “history on mural”. Lets take a more accurate history. How about a mural of shut factories and mills and labors (unions) place in that history.
    The fact that LePage is taking a more balanced approach to attracting jobs is a good thing and for all you whiners, in the words of President Obama “Elections have consequences.”
    Get over it.

  • Anonymous

    If one written complaint is all it takes to get LePage to do something, I’m taking my shot now.

    Dear Gov. LePage, I’m writing this to inform you of an urgent matter. Acting as dictator does not serve ALL the people of Maine, therefore I’m asking you to resign immediately, clean out desk of any personal belongings and vacate the premises by 4:00 pm today.

  • Tyke

    You are comparing very tasteful and accurate images portraying good hard working Maine citizens to communists?

    Your display of disrespect is disgusting.

  • Anonymous

    That is what I was thinking! Irregardless of the subject, we paid $60,000 for this amateurish piece of junk!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Just how long do you think it will take LePage to get those laws repealed if the unions are busted. The Union movement is all that keeps big business in check. LePage already stated that he wanted to “Rethink” minimum wage.
    Would LePage feel better about this mural if there were one more panel depicting corporate leaders’ greed? Or maybe, a picture of the owners welcoming 10 and 12 year old children to work every day? Maybe, we could throw in a picture of where the corporate owners live and where the workers live. Let’s compare. I believe that the artist was being kind when this history was painted. One does not build monuments to the people who enslave you.

  • Anonymous

    Did you think it was named after Hugo Chavez?

  • Anonymous

    Irregardless of the subject, we paid $60,000 for this amateurish piece of junk!!!!

  • Anonymous

    troy jackson is the one that is out of touch with reality. it is funny that he could not get a job as a logger because of his work ethics and decided to run as a republican and when he saw that he could not get in as a gop, only then did he realize after john martin talked to him and gave him a lesson on politics, did he suddenly switch party and run as a democrat. what a farce he is.
    the previous administration should be ashamed to have spent 60,000 dollars on that mural. i am sure it is nice, for 60k it should be. and you may say well it was not maine taxpayers money, the heck it was not, it was your federal tax money. unbelievable how these people are unconnected to common sense.
    sure we should jack up everyone’s wages so that more businesses should go out of business, of course that is how we attract more businesses to the state of maine . DAH

  • Anonymous

    Hey guys, don’t quit your day jobs to become art critics.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe the Governor is asking anyone to ignore anything, he is just showing fairness to ALL Maine people and not just all union supporting Maine people. If it wasn’t for the fact that it would cost, assuming the artist of this mural didn’t over charge the taxpayers, another two years pay for the average Maine citizen to have a mural depicting those of us that got where we are without union intervention he may consider going that route, but since he is in Augusta to shrink our debt and not inflate it I think he is certainly looking in the right direction.

  • Anonymous

    “How about a mural of shut factories and mills and labors (unions) place in that history.”

    Great idea, it could be entitled “Capitalism Assaulted by Unions – A History of How An Economy is Destroyed.”

  • Anonymous

    Yup they gussied up corporatism and put it in a Trojan horse painted to look like democracy, capitalism.

  • Anonymous

    This is what 38% of us wanted…. someone to take on the big issues plaguing Maine’s economy and do something! Yeah Paul! Feed the talk show hosts!

  • Anonymous

    Keep ‘em coming, Guv. It’s been a long winter. We need the laughs.

  • Anonymous

    The Governor’s action has nothing to do with “being fair.” The Governor’s action has everything to do with mental illness. What a pathetic character our Governor is. Labor in Maine built Maine be it organized or not. How weak the argument is that a mural in the Department of Labor depicting labor should be removed in the name of “fairness.”

  • Anonymous

    And soon you won’t learn about the labor movement in history class. What else can we wash away from history?

  • Anonymous

    It is not just the unions who are upset about this move on the part of LePage. There are many of us citizens who find this action disgusting. Not only is it unneccessary but it again shows the ignorance of this administration. Their lack of knowledge is embarrassing. Why they would think that the Department of Labor represents business is beyond me. The Department of Labor exists today because of the horrible past and present treatment of the Maine workers. It appears that LePage wants to erase our history. I just feel that LePage is so filled with hate and disgust for his past that he is blinded by it. It is sad, however, worse it is dangerous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=565982401 Rocky Marshall

    Has anyone else Heard that this was talked about before Lepage took Office and that the Mural was scheduled to be removed months ago???

  • Anonymous

    A Trojan Horse has been wheeled into our midst, it’s innards full of corporatist views. Now we are beginning to see what crawls from its belly.

  • Anonymous

    When artwork is removed on the basis of ideology we are reallly in trouble. I am sure Paul would want the music of Woodie Guthrie banned as well. Fortunately, I am confident he would have no clue as to the identity of the most influential folk artist of the first of half of the 20th century. I am waiting for the replacement art. My guess is dogs playing poker on velvet.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your quote …. Although I feel some of the mural may not be appropriate for its’ location, we need to remember and be reminded of where we have climbed from to avoid going back.

    Break the unions (those that are left), reduce the economy to minimum wage status, create a society of “haves & have nots” & we won’t need a mural to depict or remind !!

  • Anonymous

    Nice imagery. See you in poetry class.

  • Anonymous

    Heeey, hooo…..the mural has got to go

  • Anonymous

    Heeey, hooo…..the mural has got to go

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely correct.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GTKGMUHLI6XEPPSCZHIQ7HODWE Duckman

    The cobbler in panel 1 of slide 2 sort of looks like the president.

  • Anonymous

    Well said Thistle and its a shock long past due.

  • Anonymous

    I am not especially pro labor but I am pro art and pro history? What’s next removing any mention of labor unions from the history books?

  • Anonymous

    Not at all.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure what your quote intended to imply, but it is completely opposite of your remarks. By taking from the working class, union or not, is exactly what the proposal is doing. Now I am in support of some sort of changes in what I consider outrageous retirement benefits compared to the “average” worker. However, there was a day when the economy was robust, with many a union worker through the manufacturing sector, that these retirement benefits were the norm. You gave your life to the job and the reward was to enjoy your last years. Pretty simple and productive before corporate greed came alive.

    My thought would be that all would share in what we created. Which means that the top echelon of the tax bracket to step up and either re invest in what is / was or share in taking care of the cost.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks I just made it up .. but delighted you don’t disagree with the thought.

  • Anonymous

    Small minded – YES — I wouldn’t be surprised that is Michaelangelo’s (sp?) David came to State House on tour that Gov Baffoon would probably throw a (non-union made North Carolina towel!) towel on David. This goober HAS to go!!!

  • Anonymous

    Governor LePage is not intended to be the chief job-creator. He is the first executive of the State. When any new business manager is seated, they typically look around and make minor adjustments in the decor to fit their own tastes. I see this in a similar light, though obviously not quite the same.

    The Governor’s role is to lead in the creation of an environment where existing business can prosper and where new businesses will want to locate. He is not directly responsible for recruiting. It never works, as every Governor in every state will tell you. Tax incentives and a reasonable business climate are the important factors these days. Local business development professionals are best suited to attract new business. Our inherent resources and location are critical factors as well. Vision is the jobn of the Governor – implementation is for you and I.

    The Department of Labor is a government agency – it should not be a museum for labor history, nor should it be representative solely of workers’ rights. It should be focused on the health and safety of workers, helping workers preparing for and finding jobs, acting as a resource when jobs are lost, and providing employment data to assist in long-range planning. It should be there to assist businesses and employees – it should not resemble a union hall.

  • Anonymous

    Governor LePage is not intended to be the chief job-creator. He is the first executive of the State. When any new business manager is seated, they typically look around and make minor adjustments in the decor to fit their own tastes. I see this in a similar light, though obviously not quite the same.

    The Governor’s role is to lead in the creation of an environment where existing business can prosper and where new businesses will want to locate. He is not directly responsible for recruiting. It never works, as every Governor in every state will tell you. Tax incentives and a reasonable business climate are the important factors these days. Local business development professionals are best suited to attract new business. Our inherent resources and location are critical factors as well. Vision is the jobn of the Governor – implementation is for you and I.

    The Department of Labor is a government agency – it should not be a museum for labor history, nor should it be representative solely of workers’ rights. It should be focused on the health and safety of workers, helping workers preparing for and finding jobs, acting as a resource when jobs are lost, and providing employment data to assist in long-range planning. It should be there to assist businesses and employees – it should not resemble a union hall.

  • Anonymous

    Quite right. A point which our beloved governor proves each day. Without doubt the cream rises to the top. But turds also float.

  • Anonymous

    I, for one, appreciate the art and insight of your post. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    I, for one, appreciate the art and insight of your post. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Bubba would have had a baby added to the painting with it’s head covering the breast… now who could object to that?

  • Anonymous

    Please Stop Obama’s endless wars!!!!

  • Anonymous

    LePage makes me feel like I’m in North Korea-can we take him down too?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are, and far too many of our fellow Mainers from the governor on down wear their ignorance with pride, not something an employer needing educated critical thinkers looks for.

  • Anonymous

    1. Is this Government property?
    2. Was it paid for by the taxper?
    3. Where is it going to be placed when removed?
    4. What are the names for the new conference rooms going to be ?
    5. What else can be renamed in this state (roads, bridges, salvage stores)?
    6. How soon will the new mural be completed (rumored to have a sickle, hammer, and a lady wearing a little beard)?

  • Anonymous

    Here are some “pro-business” names for Gov. OutRage to consider for the conference rooms (look them up for the significance):

    George Pullman
    Baldwin-Felts
    Issac Harris
    Max Blanck
    DeCoster

    I’m sure others can come up with more.

  • Anonymous

    I guess by this logic, when we complain about an unfair bias as a corporate tool in the Blaine House, LePage will have to order himself removed! Office of the Governor Fax: 207-287-1034

  • Anonymous

    Very good!

  • Anonymous

    This is just socialist imagery previously used in the former Soviet Union .

  • Anonymous

    Sorry dude. Wrong again.

  • Anonymous

    Well put–and I’d also be happy if LePage decided not to use taxpayer money to get his portrait painted and hung in the Capital.

  • Anonymous

    Is that a threat you union hack spammer?

  • Anonymous

    Irregardless is not a word… brought to you by the grammar police.

  • Anonymous

    Moving a mural from the Department of Labor to a more appropriate location is not the same as burning books. However watching you and these socialist progressives go off the deep end is hilarious. Thank you governor.

  • Anonymous

    How short-lived our memories are. Many of those decrying the influence of unions today forget what their forebears went through to be treated as human beings. The history of American Labor is replete with examples of conditions to which we have all said: “Never again!” Our Governor is white-washing our own history of Dickensian employment practices rather than acknowledging the workers who fought against them. How un-American.

  • Anonymous

    Great idea, it could be entitled “Capitalism Assaulted by Corporations” – A History of How An Economy is Destroyed.”

  • Anonymous

    How many crimes committed to get there?

  • Anonymous

    Hey- turn about if fair play. Chairman Mao as the leader of the chinese ordered the removal of art that did not depict the struggle of the working class. It is only fair that Mr. Lepage be able to do the same thing for business. How did that eventually work out for Mao?

  • Anonymous

    LePage is just barely getting started and he is ALREADY looking like a one-term governor.

  • Anonymous

    What’s next? Putting up business billboards on the interstate as so many states do? Ugly! But our governor would probably like that kind of ‘art’. There are so many things to worry about, why is he doing this? What is the point? One anonymous person complains in writing and he ‘hears’ about a small group who doesn’t like it so it’s coming down? This man is a piece of art himself. Very, very bad art and I’d like to see him taken down, recalled, and keep the mural up.

  • Anonymous

    Personally it has a lot of entertainment value for me watching all you loons go ballistic. Gotta love it.

  • Anonymous

    I was just going to comment in that manner too, but you beat me to it! Diane seems to be an extremist…=S

  • Anonymous

    Enter the Name That Room at Dept. of Labor Contest:

    http://bit.ly/ga0whM

  • Anonymous

    Just how has the unionized 13% or so of the labor force “taken over” business? As for the laws protecting workers rights and workers well-being, I can’t think of any that were passed into law as a result of employer initiative, can you? It was either the presence or the possibility of a presence of organized workers that pushed the legislature or congress to do the right thing. Unorganized people get little done to advance their cause, no matter what or when it may be. What are the chances, that if organized labor disappeared so too would the Chamber of Commerce or any of the various professional and trade councils whose representatives stalk the halls of the legislature seeking support for legislation that boosts the fortunes of their members? When they pressure the government it is good businessmen doing their rightful duty; when organized workers do the same, it is “thugs” and “union bosses,” “socialists and foreign elements” interfering with the business of honest, decent “real” Mainers, and the rest of the same old malarky. No matter how it’s dressed up, when it comes to the rights of workers to organize to protect and improve their situations when need be, it’s the same old double standard, the one that’s been around for nearly as long as Maine has been a state.

  • Anonymous

    Grammar policeman needs to go back to school.

    Merriam-Webster

    “Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.”

  • Anonymous

    That may be your opinion…but it sure does hit home!! It could not be more true if it was posted at the state line on a billboard.

  • Anonymous

    You didn’t capitalize “brought”. First word in a sentence.

  • Anonymous

    Governor LePage seems bound to broadcast his antipathy toward laborers and support of business above the laboring class – cure the debt by stripping laborers of benefits, support tax breaks for business and heavier burdens to the working class, and now even removing a mural that salutes those who built the businesses of Maine. All these things, in addition to a SECRET advisory economic committee, point in one direction only. Someone should remind the governor of the low percentage of voters who put him in office…

  • Anonymous

    A short history of labor unions would be this.
    A good group with a noble cause that righted many wrongs that over time calcified became more about pocketing money and power than righting wrongs and eventually came to eating their young in an effort to maintain that power. That is why Unions are less than 6% of the private workforce.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to get personal on here, but you certainly have ample time available to comment all over the BDN. Don’t you work or have something more productive to do with your time than vilify people who legitimately want to fight for the masses, not LePages little group of prissy, selfish, self-absorbed capitalist junkie businessmen? These comments have turned into a ridiculous schoolyard fight. Some of these people you dismiss as communists etc, are your neighbors, friends, colleagues, mail carriers, policemen, doctors, etc etc etc. Would you dare say the things you say on here to their faces? I think not. If you say you would, then you are not a real Mainer.

  • Anonymous

    They shouldn’t be but they are mutually exclusive. We have had 40 years of Democrats and Democrat-lites and unions running Maine for 40 years. Maine has one of the worst reputations for business in the country. Why is it so hard to connect the dots?

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if LePage will also start having American Flag burning ceremonies?

  • Anonymous

    The “Birdie Googins” conference room

  • Anonymous

    The “Bert and I” conference room

  • Anonymous

    I am glad someone called MaineMaple out on the carpet. I am a stay-at-home mom, and operate a home-based business while my husband works outside of the home. I would be condemned, and have been, by MaineMaple for being “lazy” and “a leftist”…Thank you for your comment.

  • Anonymous

    He would just tell all of us to “Kiss his a$$.” That’s just how he rolls…

  • Anonymous

    And last but not least, from the new and improved Lepage I-95 Turnpike sign, the “Open for Business” conference room

  • Anonymous

    Yes I hear businesses find an infuriated labor pool to be very attractive.

  • Anonymous

    Personally, I think the mural is plain ugly, no matter what it depicts. If it is meant to be used as a historical record of the labor movement, then put it in a museum where people who are interested in the labor movement can come learn about it.
    If Baldacci had the right to commission the mural through the use of our federal tax dollars, then LePage has just as much right to take it down. There is nothing sacred about this mural. I am surprised there was no outcry at the advisability of putting this mural up.
    People who find something vindictive or spiteful in Lepage’s actions are simply judging him according to their own small minds. Maybe you base your decisions on anger and spite, but did it ever occur to you that someone might just believe the mural is not in the right place?

  • Anonymous

    http://www.judytaylorstudio.com/mural1.html

    Go here if you want to find out the “history” behind the mural images and the creating artist.

  • Anonymous

    it is insulting that you would compare this 3 year old mural to our country’s flag.

  • Anonymous

    A good example of a lack of reading comprehension.

  • Anonymous

    The current administration has been all about contempt for the working poor and middle classes from day one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IJTMJXVK74Z2VJ47L6TBL74RVU Brett

    It is insulting that Mainer’s consider LePage a governor

  • Anonymous

    Please refer to panel 11 “The Future of Labor in Maine” “A figure from the past offers a hammer to workers of the present who are unsure of it’s value in a changing world.” It is unfortunate that we can not see what is in the left hand of the figure from the past. My guess is that it is a sickle.

  • Anonymous

    LePage tries to discredit the local press. He hides and censors historic images that run counter to his ideals. And yet, Obama is the oppressive communist?

  • Anonymous

    I think they should put the paintings on sticks (Like Picket signs) outside in downtown Hallowell by the river. Great Art should be displayed where people can see it. The elements will only give it character.. Great Petina is cherished by many.. Who was the artist who got 60K to paint pictures of a cult anyway?

  • Anonymous

    I think they should put the paintings on sticks (Like Picket signs) outside in downtown Hallowell by the river. Great Art should be displayed where people can see it. The elements will only give it character.. Great Petina is cherished by many.. Who was the artist who got 60K to paint pictures of a cult anyway?

  • Anonymous

    A minor misconfusion or a tune in A minor.

  • Anonymous

    The USSR’s propagandist art was Communist. Are you for real?

  • Anonymous

    Message from “a secret admirer”. Fruther “transparency” at work.
    Bad move. What’s next, a proposal to take down the workers statue in the small park by Bangor Public Library? Revise the history books, a la Texas?

  • Anonymous

    Message from “a secret admirer”. Fruther “transparency” at work.
    Bad move. What’s next, a proposal to take down the workers statue in the small park by Bangor Public Library? Revise the history books, a la Texas?

  • Anonymous

    That wouldn’t be good for business.

  • Anonymous

    You’re talking about your own comment, right?

  • Anonymous

    “crazy talk” = what you just posted. Perhaps they could add one panel to the mural depicting the “suits” of the Maine Heritage Policy Center so that LePage’s ONE special interest group doesn’t feel left out …

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t hard to understand the real reason that Leplage wants the mural taken down. The depiction of the struggle/ turmoil that went on at International Paper in 1986 is about to be repeated, as the result of Lepages policies. The first thing to do before taking freedom is to remove any reminder of the freedom such as Murals!

    As I recall after the Strike the courts ordered International Paper to rehire the replaced workers. The company rehired as attrition occurred, interjecting Union workers back into the workforce with the nonunion replacements from Southern Right to work states.
    I had the opportunity to speak with some of these people that went back to the mill. There seemed to be the common theme that the quality of life at Jay Maine had Greatly Detteriated. Neighbor had been pitted against neighbor, worker against worker, and the wages and working conditions detteriated. Both productivity and quality of product suffered. I recall stories of violence that occurred from the bitterness of BOTH sides.
    This right to work law is destined to have the same effect on the quality of life in Maine, I doubt that some of the Representatives have knowledge of this dark time in Maines Labor history and I hope that they do a little research into this History before they vote. The negative impact of the hiring of replacements workers had such an effect on the paper Industry that No other Union/ Company came to any such significant Impasse in the next 20 years. Union Management committees became the norm to help settle differences.
    Allowing individuals to opt out of Collective Bargaining representation and still receiving the benefits at no cost is the same as interjecting non union members into the Union work force that the majority had voted for. It will drive a wedge between the members creating conflict and turmoil. This right to work agenda is designed to destroy the rights to Collective Bargaining, a right that is as eliminatory as the rights that Corporations have to organize Capital. With out the Balance Maine peoples Freedom is at Stake.

  • Anonymous

    Gov’s phone number 207 287 3531

  • Anonymous

    Have we forgotten? Forbes magazine rated Maine dead last in “The Best States For Business And Careers”. Maine has earned a reputation anti-business throughout the country. If we are to bring businesses to Maine and start providing better paying jobs then we have to change the perception companies have of us outside the state.

    If Maine’s goal is change our ways, if we are working to become business friendly, then common sense would be making the best impressions on visiting Company and corporate officials. If the first impressions they see is a labor department with a mural depicting union strikes (albeit historical) then those first impressions may be negative.

    It’s all about selling the state. We need jobs, we need better income and opportunities. I’m afraid unions cannot provide us with work and new opportunities we need for ourselves and our children. Unions do not generate income, in fact unions survive by extracting income.

    It’s not about unions, it’s about presenting a friendly business climate.

  • Anonymous

    Check it out–it’s already paid for. Taking it down and moving it would provide an additional cost.

  • Anonymous

    You make an excellent point. The only reason the Department of Labor exists is to enforce the laws brought about by labor’s struggle and the unions. The mural is more than appropriate for that location. The only time “businessmen” ever enter the building is to answer complaints about labor law violations anyway.

  • Anonymous

    It is insulting that Mainers see removing a mural from a room as such a travesty but are perfectly OK with the 8 years of horrendous, willy-nilly spending and abuse of the system that has been allowed to happen.

  • Anonymous

    Google some of the soviet era art from the 30′s or maybe of Communist china under Mao. The style is similar. I am a stamp collector and have a large collection of pre-WW2 soviet era stamps. The imagery is the same.

  • Anonymous

    I took a look at that Forbes ranking here:

    http://www.dirigoblue.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2048

  • Anonymous

    Google some of the soviet era art from the 30′s or maybe of Communist china under Mao. The style is similar. I am a stamp collector and have a large collection of pre-WW2 soviet era stamps. The imagery is the same.

  • Anonymous

    The left hand may also just be holding a nail.

  • Anonymous

    Is this the new whoopie pie issue? Is this going to distract us for a couple more months?

  • Anonymous

    The comparison was of the symbolism of each, not the symbols themselves. A subtle distinction, I’ll admit, but a valid argument.

  • Anonymous

    Same to you, “sweetie”.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a mural depicting the history of LABOR, not the history of UNIONS. It’s in the lobby of the Department of LABOR, not the Department of UNIONS. It’s a mural that I, as a full-time, employed, non-union worker in the State of Maine am proud of.

    What does he want to do, replace it with murals of ringing cash registers, and wheelbarrows full of cash by men with monocles?

  • Anonymous

    ;)

  • Anonymous

    If the different media hadn’t put it on their front pages few would have even known about it. I don’t remember any news reports of it being put up. There should not be any complaints about it being moved to the museum and the move doesn’t even deserve to be in the paper.

  • Anonymous

    $60,000 for kid art….Thats the “Joke” Who was the nut that authorized this one??? The same loser that put $100,000 of dog photos in an outhouse on the Turnpike!! Pay back for something???????

  • Anonymous

    Well said

  • Anonymous

    Ballistic? You specialize in hyprebole.

  • Anonymous

    If NOTHING else, conservative tea-party members should be angry that taxpayer money is being spent taking down something and moving it, when it’s already in place, instead of working on real fiscal issues.

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone noticed that the mural is not very good? And that it was funded by a $60,000 public grant? Any creative work that is funded by a public grant is by definition superfluous.

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone noticed that the mural is not very good? And that it was funded by a $60,000 public grant? Any creative work that is funded by a public grant is by definition superfluous.

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone noticed that the mural is not very good? And that it was funded by a $60,000 public grant? Any creative work that is funded by a public grant is by definition superfluous.

  • Anonymous

    David is correct. I did not see that art the last time I was in Russia like David did. But it is all over soviet propaganda of the pre-WW2 era. Just google it. The imagery is the same.

  • Anonymous

    David is correct. I did not see that art the last time I was in Russia like David did. But it is all over soviet propaganda of the pre-WW2 era. Just google it. The imagery is the same.

  • Anonymous

    It’s also done in a style reminiscent of the great art deco paintings in Rockefeller Center in New York, hardly Communist or counter culture.
    This removal smacks of art critiques from mid 20th century European dictators.

  • Anonymous

    This is un-American!

    Censorship of art for political purposes is not what I was expecting at home when I put on a uniform to serve my country.

    This is unacceptable.

    Mr. LePage leave our mural on the wall. And please, stop reacting to notes that aren’t even signed! If you are not ashamed of your opinion, you sign your name to it. Should the people of Maine lose their art and heritage because of one anonymous note?

    For government to rewrite history, remove names from conference rooms because of what they symbolize, to remove art from the public…these are totalitarian acts.

    Leave the mural where it stands. Recognize that you were elected with only a fraction of the vote, but that it is your responsibility to represent us all…not just business special interest groups.

    Stephanie Itchkawich

  • Anonymous

    He has as much right to move it as Baldacci had to put it there.

  • Anonymous

    Socialism? Shock? More hyperbole from both of you.

  • Anonymous

    TO:governor’s press secretary, Adrienne Bennett “There’s a new message in Augusta, and that’s that the governor works for the people, all the people, not just a single group.”
    A single anonomous letter to the governor and we should remove murals. I vote the murals stay. I represent the the laid off, non-union, at-will employee.

  • Anonymous

    Just like Texas (and certain posters on the forums).

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1338735872 Peter Imber

    If you don’t know him by now, you will soon enough. Maine’s governor, Paul LePage, loves to tweak those he doesn’t like. His list of objectionable statements and acts is amazing for someone in office for such a short time.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone’s a critic. Some are even comptent. Some are, …

  • Anonymous

    Everyone’s a critic. Some are even comptent. Some are, …

  • Anonymous

    What!? Union people don’t Work for a Living!

  • Anonymous

    We all should reread the original fable. The lion’s share is all, everything.

  • Anonymous

    The Maine workforce has been fairly heavily influenced in recent years by the union “attitude” and that was maybe tolerable during the good years, but times are different now. Unions have their place in very large organizations such as General Motors, but they are a sign of poor management in small operations.

  • Anonymous

    I do work in fact. In between posts since I arrived at work this morning at 7AM. I have personally brought in a little over $3k of work for my business. Placed an order with a vendor from Portland, presented two quotes worth another $3 and taken a few customer phone calls. Answered employee concerns in the break room over coffee and I even had time to tell a cold call stock broker to take a hike. (nicely of course).

    The “fight for the masses” comment you made tells me I am not wrong in my previous post.

  • Anonymous

    That Plaque has a name in Maine Its called——-Leplaque

  • Anonymous

    Speaking of rewriting history. Sure, mills and factories are important, but who works in them. I understand one of the panels shows a Rosie the Riveter in a shipyard.
    Speaking of whiners, what kind of cheese do you want with your w(h)ine?

  • Anonymous

    Actually it only represents a few of the people here in Maine. Where is the harm in moving it to the museum where it will be seen by more people?

  • http://profiles.google.com/wkumiega36 Walter Kumiega

    No one who works for a living got where they are without unions.

  • Anonymous

    I never called anyone “lazy”. Not my style. Could you copy and post it here for me along with its location on the website or are you lying about that.

  • Anonymous

    Speaking of … (your hypebolic comments)

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t hard to understand the real reason that Leplage wants the mural taken down. The depiction of the struggle/ turmoil that went on at International Paper in 1986 is about to be repeated, as the result of Lepages policies. The first thing to do before taking freedom is to remove any reminder of the freedom such as Murals!

    As I recall after the Strike the courts ordered International Paper to rehire the replaced workers. The company rehired as attrition occurred, interjecting Union workers back into the workforce with the nonunion replacements from Southern Right to work states.

    I had the opportunity to speak with some of these people that went back to the mill. There seemed to be the common theme that the quality of life at Jay Maine had Greatly Detteriated. Neighbor had been pitted against neighbor, worker against worker, and the wages and working conditions detteriated. Both productivity and quality of product suffered. I recall stories of violence that occurred from the bitterness of BOTH sides.
    This right to work law is destined to have the same effect on the quality of life in Maine, I doubt that some of the Representatives have knowledge of this dark time in Maines Labor history and I hope that they do a little research into this History before they vote. The negative impact of the hiring of replacements workers had such an effect on the paper Industry that No other Union/ Company came to any such significant Impasse in the next 20 years. Union Management committees became the norm to help settle differences.

    Allowing individuals to opt out of Collective Bargaining representation and still receiving the benefits at no cost is the same as interjecting non union members into the Union work force that the majority had voted for. It will drive a wedge between the members creating conflict and turmoil. This right to work agenda is designed to destroy the rights to Collective Bargaining, a right that is as eliminatory as the rights that Corporations have to organize Capital. With out the Balance Maine peoples Freedom is at Stake.

  • Anonymous

    Federal Laws exist to prevent Child Labor and Minimum Wage abuses. There is no way that they can be usurped by the Governor. To say otherwise is a scare tatic.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R4DQ3KY7EQ7WRYTIVFDHO4PQDE Anonymous

    lepagefiles.blogspot.com

    Paul LePage is LYING about this mural. Please follow the link above. This blockhead needs to go.

  • Anonymous

    Finally….a Republican on the defensive.

  • Anonymous

    This mural is paid for by Federal tax dollars. You want taxpayers to pay to expand your office? You and I and the people of Maine will now be paying for LePage’s interior decorating.

  • Anonymous

    LooLoo2 you don’t have a clue do you.

  • Anonymous

    And PS, thanks for your comment, MaineJosephMcCarthyMaple!

  • Anonymous

    “Sure, mills and factories are important, but who works in them” ~~~Gopher40

    Not as many as there used to be. What is labor’s role in that?

  • Anonymous

    ??

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I disagree with the thought but was so taken by the construction of what you wrote I decided to not spoil the moment.

  • Anonymous

    That may well be what we need. Someone who is not afraid to do their level best to move Maine forward and not cave in to special interests like labor and other leftist interests.

  • Anonymous

    A bill has already been introduced in Washington to abolish current Child Labor laws, repealing the age limitations for hours worked during the week while school is in session. The wheels are already in motion Sal, won’t be long now.

  • Anonymous

    Have you considered resigning?

  • Anonymous

    This man embarrasses me.

  • Anonymous

    No it isn’t, the Soviet artwork is much more emotional and is obviously propaganda. This art depicts history, using expert advice and old photographs for reference. Is it the style you are looking at, the way it is painted? It is simple, with flat expanses of paint, and outlines, for good reasons. Easier and quicker to paint. If you’d wanted a Sistine Chapel-style mural, you’d need to add a few zeros to the artist’s fee.

  • Anonymous

    No it isn’t, the Soviet artwork is much more emotional and is obviously propaganda. This art depicts history, using expert advice and old photographs for reference. Is it the style you are looking at, the way it is painted? It is simple, with flat expanses of paint, and outlines, for good reasons. Easier and quicker to paint. If you’d wanted a Sistine Chapel-style mural, you’d need to add a few zeros to the artist’s fee.

  • Anonymous

    Why wait, until Maine looks as bad as Wisconsin does…let’s start the effort…Recall LePage.

  • Anonymous

    Have you?

  • Anonymous

    He embarrasses our state, that is for sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    lepage is setting himself up as target to some people

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    i think lepage is a union buster

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    Did you see the news yesterday about Detroit losing 25% of its population over the last decade? That’s right…..25%.

    If you want to study “A History of How An Economy is Destroyed.”, as you put it, check out what the unions did for this once proud city.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    Did you see the news yesterday about Detroit losing 25% of its population over the last decade? That’s right…..25%.

    If you want to study “A History of How An Economy is Destroyed.”, as you put it, check out what the unions did for this once proud city.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    Did you see the news yesterday about Detroit losing 25% of its population over the last decade? That’s right…..25%.

    If you want to study “A History of How An Economy is Destroyed.”, as you put it, check out what the unions did for this once proud city.

  • Anonymous

    Mmmmmm…*nods*…

  • Anonymous

    Please Look at the stamps from the pre-ww2 era and make a comparison. Late 20′s early 30′s. Same same.I do see your point and the flat expanses of paint and outlines is what brought my attention to it .

  • Anonymous

    answered in another post.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Gerald. I read your article. I see also Forbes relied heavily on Moody’s for their data.

    Nonetheless, Maine ranks poorly in other studies.

    Here’s another: http://www.sbecouncil.org/uploads/SBSIIndexFinal.pdf

  • Anonymous

    Without organized labor there would be very few small businesses because there would be no money for anything but food and fuel. Small businesses would die on the vine without a living wage. A living wage and disposable income are absolutely necessary to support small business. If you own a small business LooLoo, don’t bite the hand that feeds you by discounting (no pun intended) the importance that organized labor has played in your success.

  • Anonymous

    Bottom line. The US would have never needed labor unions in the first place if it weren’t for people like Paul LePage.

  • Anonymous

    So are you going out “with the masses” after work tonight? Isn’t it your turn to buy the first round.

  • Anonymous

    There is no censorship Stephanie. It will find a new home.

  • Anonymous

    This $60,000 works out to about $23.00 per person in Maine. Hardly enough for a gallon of paint for your office, let alone expansion. Let’s keep things in perspective Doc, without organized labor there would be no health insurance and you would be taking chickens and piglets in exchange for medical treatment.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CE3BA4IPU4C2VY4EWDQ3663FIU Diane

    Dear Mr. Lepage if you are threatened by an artist’s depiction of a concept you are, indeed, a sad man. Please, do a Maine a favor and step down.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CE3BA4IPU4C2VY4EWDQ3663FIU Diane

    Yes, we need to go back to children working in mills-that is old fashioned values for sure.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t work for the state. My taxes contribute to your salary and as a taxpayer I really don’t want unhappy anti-business employees in state government. If you are unhappy, Please leave.

  • Anonymous

    I’d be curious to hear “who was complaining” about it……oh wait, that would be a secret Jabba the Nut couldn’t tell.

    Unfair to whom?

    Revisionist history–
    Clandestine meetings–
    Extra security outside the palace door–

    Is this person sane?
    Fit to govern?

  • Anonymous

    I’d be curious to hear “who was complaining” about it……oh wait, that would be a secret Jabba the Nut couldn’t tell.

    Unfair to whom?

    Revisionist history–
    Clandestine meetings–
    Extra security outside the palace door–

    Is this person sane?
    Fit to govern?

  • Anonymous

    Burnt doughnut.

  • Anonymous

    All Things Being Equal-
    Either take them all down, or put up an equal amount of murals depicting the decades of sleazy union bosses that are “still” buying politicians, sucking-up dues and not doing jack to protect the workers…

  • Anonymous

    “When you walk into that lobby, there’s a clear message that comes across,” said the governor’s press secretary, Adrienne Bennett, citing complaints about the pro-union themes in the artwork.

    Why take down an art work rather than put up another art work? If the mural “tells one side”, then commission another one to “tell the other side”. Then the DOL building would be richer for the art and the fairness would evident.

    I would be curious to see just how an artist would “represent” management.

  • Anonymous

    Yes I see your point too, was trying to discern content from style.

    Also, I didn’t mean to say the mural was simple or easy to do. It looks like it took a lot of work, and looks great.

  • Anonymous

    People from all over Maine, especially school aged children visit the capital every day. Tourists visit museums. This mural is not for tourists, it is for the people of Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Why exactly would a visiting company or corporate official be in the offices of the MDOL?

  • Anonymous

    Unions have not been their own best friend, but when big business is allowed to stop manufacturing here and go to a third world country paying 19th century wages,then bring back those products, it’s pretty darn hard to compete with that.

    When Reagan disbanded the air-traffic contollers, that was when big business knew it could do as it pleased in terms of wages and the leaders of the unions tucked their tails (although they did keep their own piece of the pie). And that is just about the same time the money gap between the wealthy and the middle class started to widen.

  • Anonymous

    and the Maine Heritage Policy Center is NOT a special interest group? Welcome to Fantasy Land, MaineMaple!

  • Anonymous

    Then what you are saying is we should just paint over it, to save money?

    Great Idea! Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Come on now!! Show us all where I called you lazy. You said it, prove it!!

  • Anonymous

    He acts like the traditional fifth grade bully and thinks he is clever in the process. NOT!

  • Anonymous

    Agree completely. They shouldn’t have spent taxpayer money to remove it. A gallon of Benjamin Moore flat white paint and a long-handled roller would have been a more reasonable solution.

  • Anonymous

    I hope LePage is a union buster.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3DGFUPKIDRU2T23SQRC2ZUUSYI LisaK

    There are children going to school hungry because one or both parents can not find a job and the state spends $60,000 of federal money on a mural? Seriously, where are our priorities?

  • Anonymous

    Because good journalism is rare these days.

  • Anonymous

    Guess what, MaineMaple? I don’t get one d@mn3d penny from your taxes, because I don’t work for the state either. -I- work for a private sector employer, just like, I believe, you do. So keep your arrogant “I work in the private sector” attitude for yourself. You don’t represent everyone who works in the private sector.

    And if you don’t like that, YOU leave.

  • Anonymous

    well said Wandini–personally I thinks its a waste of time to even mention this in the media in the 1st place–much less getting worked up over it–you hit the nail on the head on the “small minds” point.

  • Anonymous

    No, I’m saying it should stay where it is. After all, that’s the cheapest solution, isn’t it? Ain’t that the conservative way?

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumbleFarmer Robert Karl Skoglund

    You might have heard that our governor is taking down a mural showing working people going on strike for better wages.

    I have no problem with this as he is the governor we all elected and governors can pretty well do what they want to do.

    That’s the good thing about being governor — or having money enough to buy a governor.

    The humble Farmer

  • Anonymous

    LePage is a problem that will not go away. He is arrogant, dismissive of subordinates who are not in agreement with him, disrespectful of the working class, blustering, short tempered, disposed to nepotism, ignorant of history and overly proud. As in the baseball metaphor, he is standing on third base purely by chance but he thinks he just hit a triple.

    We need to request our legislators to impeach him. It can be done. His buffonery must be stopped before he completes the hidden agenda of his Maine Heritage advisers.

    If you go to the following state maintained website, put in your address, you get the email address of your elected Maine representative. The legislature can and should impeach him.

    http://www.maine.gov/portal/government/edemocracy/lookup_voter_info.php

  • Anonymous

    $60,000 for 11 panels, about $5454.55 per panel of taxpayers money and yes I know that it was a Federal Grant, for those that would point this out, where do you suppose the money came from ………….. the “TAXPAYERS”.

    Instead of removing the mural, maybe we should raise enough money to add one or two more panels showing manufacturing jobs going overseas ……………………….

  • Anonymous

    I’m offended by the Lincoln Memorial on the mall in Washington. After all, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, ended slavery, and his side won the civil war. I’m waiting for the “south to rise again,” and fly the Confederate flag on my lawn.
    When I get elected and go to Washington, I order the offensive Lincoln Memorial removed and replace it with a stature of Robert E. Lee carrying the Confederate flag. Now my cohorts and like-minded thinkers will feel more comfortable coming to Washington .
    Ludicrous? Outrageous? One would think so, but isn’t this just what LePage is doing with the mural and name changing in Augusta? He wants to change history, suppress the truth of Maine workers, and denigrate the courageous pioneers of worker’s rights. These are actions of a petty demagogue not a leader representing all Maine people.

  • Anonymous

    Ellipses do not constitute the end of a sentence…but rather a pause (as in thought) for the writer.

    Brought to you by the punctuation police.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YE3XFN7AV6MWMPAVMVPYVSEQEY sweetie

    Mills? What mills?

  • Anonymous

    Wait a few more months, with LePage in office, you might get your wish, right here in Maine…

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Mr. Lepage! This so called artwork of three years old belongs in a union hall and paid for by the union membership, not the taxpayer. Unions will soon be remembered only in history books as corrupt, greedy mobs who collectively bargained them selfs into extinction.

  • Anonymous

    Actually the income gap started earlier in the mid sixties and has more to do with energy costs than anti-union activity. I have always harbored a suspicion since the gap started in the sixties that Johnson’s Great Society Programs have something to do with it. IDK of course.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Income_Distribution_1967-2003.svg

    The air traffic controllers violated the law and the oath they took NOT to strike they signed when they got their jobs . This was another example of the unions eating their young when it was about power not about money.

    I don’t know what you do about the inequities of cheap labor vs high cost labor. There is a lot involved in that. Trade agreements, the rights of others to work. I suspect the answer lies in an educated workforce that is willing to jump to the next level of competition. Many people go through life figuring everything is just waiting for them at some assembly line job. That life has gone to China.

  • Anonymous

    We can only hope the same fate of extinction awaits our current State of Maine political leadership…if you want to call them that. I’ll call it media bullying.

  • Anonymous

    Go Governor LePage. After that pansy Baldacci, we now have a governor brave enough and tough enough to take on the status quo.

    Judging by these posts, most folks here do not understand marketing. First impressions are everything. If you’re trying to court new enterprise the last thing to do is convey a message that The labor department is all about unions. This only enforces Maine’s image as business hostile.

    It’s about selling Maine. If it helps potential investors feel more comfortable and helps promote our image as becoming business friendly then we all win.

    Maine has grown stagnant. Much has to do with an overbearing, over regulating government over several decades. It’s time to sweep out the old and present the new.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Paul, please…go…somewhere…else…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1452684179 Jason Simonds

    ….. a cult?

  • Anonymous

    Taking the murals down is reminiscent of dictatorial leaders around the world re-writing history to remove former leaders from history books. The labor movement happened, and taking away a mural won’t change that.

    Quite frankly, it’s surprising to hear that something like this is a priority for *any* state office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1452684179 Jason Simonds

    No… apparently no on else has heard this.. .so it must not be true…. and if it were, it would be all to easy to deflect all this criticism by blaming on the previous administration, which hasn’t happened… so… yeah, no.

  • Anonymous

    It’s too bad to throw away the art, the ideal, and the effort to make this historical record. Could it perhaps be moved to a location that does not offend the Governor’s agenda and in that way be preserved for the future? Please Governor, it would be a waste of money already spent to destroy this work as well as a waste of the cost to remove it. Can the removal cost please be expended as a preservation cost to move the wall elsewhere?

  • Anonymous

    Take a blowtorch to it!

  • Anonymous

    How about instead of ripping it down we recomishion the artist to do a sixth panel where Lepage craps all over the workers of Maine. I believe this would make it more historically accurate.

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    It should go without saying that nothing the governor will do in the next four years will result in any “likes” in this little chat room. I call it that because the activity posted here cannot in any way pass for political discussion. Paul LePage is a republican. Unions do not like republicans. They always back the democratic. Clintons portrait hung in union halls long after he had pardoned all the criminals that contributed to his library. I highly imagine that Baldacci’s portrait is still hanging next to President Obama’s. Its their hall. They can hang whatever they want. For the next four years, the Blaine house is the domain of the Lepage and the people of Maine. I am one of the people of Maine. I think it should go. It is not being destroyed. It is being moved. And though it does depict the history of our state, so did Squaw Mountain. We changed that. So those who claim that we not rewrite history are wrong. we constantly rewrite it to fit the current outrage. What I will remember about this issue is that in 1970 a 17 year old CETA hung from staging to paint the mural at the Penobscot County courthouse. A decade later we took money from a federal grant and hired a Seal Harbor artist to paint the on in Augusta. We’ve come a long way.

  • Anonymous

    I see I misread your post. It appeared at first read you were claiming to be employed by the state. As a private citizen i don’t really care what you have to say. Your opinion is your own and that’s ok. But if that attitude were from a state employee I would encourage that person to leave that job. They would not have the best interest of the State at heart.

  • Anonymous

    Anti-business because folks think removing a mural is ridiculous? Perhaps if removing the mural could be linked to creating jobs/promoting new business growth then your accusation would hold water. However, I suspect you’d be very hard-pressed to name even one business that based it’s expansion decisions on a painting…..

  • Anonymous

    Also the Maine Department of Labor is for workers AND employers.

  • Anonymous

    You may want to look to see what portrait is hanging in the US Department of Labor Building. I don’t believe for one second that a true business leader would feel offended or discriminated against in that building and I believe even less that anyone actually complained. Businesses don’t even end up in that building unless there has already been ample evidence of wrongdoing.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, I was just thinking how the right wing posters on here only seem to offer insults and don’t really have much in the way of facts or even good ideas or good points of veiw.

    your insults kind of s-ck as well so I guess all you really have is NOTHING!

  • Anonymous

    So the new Governor is redecorating so what!!!

  • Anonymous

    They have an unnamed museum interested in displaying the art. No one is going to destroy the art. All these new art lovers will be able to view it at their leisure.

    In fact, that should be great comfort to everyone here who express such passion over this piece. Most, who have probably never seen, heard or thought of this incredibly important piece of art until now. Who could have cared less this piece of art, until LePage Derangement Syndrome spread like the plague.

  • Anonymous

    Did you remember that the mural in question was commissioned, painted, and paid for during the last governor’s tenure?

  • Anonymous

    LePage’s Office: People Complained Labor Mural Resembled “North Korea”

    from: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/lepages-office-people-complained-labor-mural-resembled-north-korea.php#

    “In this mural I observed a figure which closely resembles the former commissioner of labor,” an anonymous fax given to the Portland Press Herald reads. “In studying the mural I also observed that this mural is nothing but propaganda to further the agenda of the Union movement. I felt for a moment that I was in communist North Korea where they use these murals to brainwash the masses.”

    I’m been in North Korea (Jan 1987). This mural is nothing like what they’ve got there. Has the “anon faxer” ever been to a communist, dictator state?……we’ll never know because they are hiding behind a fax……..if there even is one.

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    Fortunately, what you believe or disbelieve does not guide the hand of the state.

  • Anonymous

    A near textbook example of “Wag the Dog”. The governor can’t live up to his promises about rebuilding the economy or creating jobs so this is to be expected.

  • http://travelah.blogspot.com/ Conservative Monstrosity

    Too bad for the liberals … If you get another one of your ilk back in office, you can paint as many propaganda murals as you wish.

    Here is one for the mindless liberals ..
    http://www.sino.uni-heidelberg.de/conf/propaganda/images/_C14059PictPowChenYanning59.jpg

  • Anonymous

    Not at all true. Its one of the stops prospective employers make when they visit the state considering setting up their business. It is a source for data on the skill level of possible employees pay scales training programs that sort of thing. It is also a source for employers to find employees.

  • Anonymous

    Deflecting again are we. Your so good at that, if Beck were here he would give you a cookie : )

  • Anonymous

    what!!! Obama’s endless wars?????

  • Anonymous

    I saw that. Unions.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I think that the Chamber of Commerce had a place at one point in time, too. But I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to disappear. What a stupid comment

  • Anonymous

    I sincerely hope that it never gets out of committee. Child Labor laws that are in place are one of the things that I believe the Government has gotten right for the most part.

    When I was 15 I could not work after 9pm at the restaurant I was employed in. This applied even though I was working there only during summer vacation and did not have school the next day. I would favor making a change to laws or policies in regards to a rule such as that.

  • Anonymous

    So what you are saying is (for marketing sake), when a potential new businessperson enters the DOL building , without the mural staring at them, Maine will be open for business because the available “laborpool” workforce is under control and ready to “work for food”?

  • Anonymous

    Your “order” to remove it represents the aggressive and vindictive action of the oppressor. -kcjonez

    What a small minded person he is. -lynne14

    Does LePage do anything else all day besides thinking up new ways to look like an ignoramus? -douglasswatts

    This is at best a petty and passive aggressive act worthy of a middle-school kid. -Spruce Dweller

    Well the majority of us, who did not vote for a total buffoon as governor, agree and are doing what we can to limit the harm he does to our state. -Tyke
    LePage makes me feel like I’m in North Korea-can we take him down too? -smrtypants

    Just a sampling of the high-minded comments being made about the highest elected official in the state of Maine. Hmm…name calling, derogatory comments, vitriol…and perhaps a threat of violence? Liberals are so concerned about LePage’s tone…perhaps they need to examine their own tone.

  • Anonymous

    yeah cult?????? are you out of your mind? or did you go to the Beck school for misinformation and propaganda?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKMNWZZXCEJ77DCVKG7BEELBKY Katzmatta

    LePage is a thoughtless brute; the more stupid things he does the easier it will be to return him to Marden’s with the other Odd Lots.

  • Anonymous

    I guess you both need to go back to school. The 3 dot ellipsis with no spaces and not separated from the last word would be correct if you are writing in Polish. Since there are no Polish words in the sentence I have to guess that you are simply another sloppy user of punctuation.

    Ellipses used with no space between them and the preceding word indicate the end of a sentence. Although this is a sloppy and informal usage. The correct English form would be 4 dots, actually a period and an ellipsis. The correct form of the ellipsis is 3 dots with a space between each dot and a space before and after the 3 dots. The spaces between are often left out these days but such usage is sloppy and informal. However, in English the space before and after is always to be used.

    Since both formal and informal usage of the ellipsis was not correct it is impossible to determine precisely what was intended.

    Since any fool with a brain can figure out what meaning was intended this entire discussion is as ridiculous as it sounds. But it does lead me to believe that both of you are nitpicking, condescending elitists.

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    That “mural” looks stupid anyway. Take it down and put up some photos of Mainer’s working in a mill/forest/fishing.

  • Anonymous

    Good question!!

  • Anonymous

    Why is it a surprise? We had to pay for the mural, too.

  • Anonymous

    I guess you believe federal tax dollars grow on trees.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Apology accepted. You make valid points worthy of debate. I was taken back that you felt if one disagreed with what Judy Taylor’s mural represented to you, they didn’t have a conscience. I disagreed with Obama sending the Churchill bust back to Great Britain, but I wouldn’t say folks that agreed with him lacked a conscience.

  • Anonymous

    I did some more reading after I posted that comment last night. The murals were commissioned under the Percent for Art Program at a cost of $60,000, installed and opened for public viewing in August 2008. I went back to the Commission’s website and looked again at the Percent for Art Program’s project archives. They’re in chronological order and I still couldn’t find Judy Taylor’s murals. I find it hard to believe that the murals weren’t archived for internet viewing at the Commission’s website. It’s possible I missed them, but I don’t think so. I think it’s more likely they were purged.

  • Anonymous

    It ought to be made into billboards, and placed behind “open for business” sign on the highway.

    If the Govenah wants to play with symbolism over substance…

    where are the jobs, anyway ?

    … we should embrace this and make this the symbol of the 75% of Maine voters that never voted for him.

    Who knows Ms. Talyor well enough to ask her premission to to reproduce the heck out of her artwork ?
    Why not make it famous ?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve done similar, except for my response to those boiler room cold call salesmen. I’m not polite, simply say goodbye and hang up on them. Usually can still hear them continuing their spiel as the phone clicks off.

  • Anonymous

    Re-read my post… You said that, I didn’t. What you are saying is based in feelings, not logic.

  • Anonymous

    thats a feature you can turn on and off at will.

  • Anonymous

    Yep. Can you name one he doesn’t own now……?

  • Anonymous

    So you are admitting that Gov. LePage’s action is just playing propaganda games ?

    Where are the jobs ?

  • Anonymous

    The difference being that gov. is held to the standards fitting, as you say, a highly elected official.
    Which he clearly cannot do. If you hold the office of gov. in such high esteem than you have to hold the gov. accountable for his behavior don’t you?
    It’s silly to compare the words of essentially anonymous bloggers to those of the gov..

    Bottom line–our gov. behaves more like a used care salesman than an elected official of the highest order.

  • Anonymous

    That’s ok. Get more back with the deduction. Keep thinking though and pass on your ideas.

  • Anonymous

    Good question, where are the jobs? Obama is a failure. That’s where the jobs are.

  • Anonymous

    You’re hilarious!

  • Anonymous

    Read the article.
    It was out of State money coming into Maine, just like tourism.

    Where were you with your complaints about that ?

  • Anonymous

    How many jobs has he created ?

  • Anonymous

    Right. So how many representatives of prospective Maine businesses do you think have stopped by in recent years? I stand by my earlier statement.

  • Anonymous

    Why not a line outside Marden’s of Maine people needing to buy secornd rate surplus goods ?

  • Anonymous

    Work for damaged cans …. from Marden’s ?

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    You don’t see a problem with holding our elected officials to a high standard than you expect from the citizens of the state. There not gods; their people. And you should not expect any less from you neighbor, or yourself, that you would an elected official.

  • Anonymous

    What makes you think they are all liberals? You know them personally? Get off your high horse…republicans and tea partiers are just as guilty for spreading those types of comments. Simple fact is if an elected official pisses someone off, they have every right to air their disgust any safe way they choose, liberal or not.

  • Anonymous

    Bend over labor, you’re about the get the biggest A-F’ing of your life from this administration! “Working for the people of Maine”…yeah right! :o

  • Anonymous

    I wonder what it would take to impeach LePage?!? He certainly doesn’t have a chance at hell at reelection, he has stuck that fat foot in his mouth one too many times. I have never been so disgusted and embarrassed to be from this state. I never cared for LePage and did not vote for him, but I have to say he is looking more and more like a total complete Tyrant. People in Maine have seen more than their share of oppression, and that deserves to be seen and portrayed through any means possible. The story isn’t about the sacrifices that businesses have had to make, because the simple fact is that businesses would not make them if they are not forced to do so. The real working citizens of Maine are the ones who have had to struggle and fight for rights….so they are the ones that deserve the mural depicting our fight in history….NOT BIG BUSINESSES! This man, in my opinion, is quite possibly the worst, most destructive governor this state has had. He makes state teachers shoulder a 200mil tax cut for 425 of the states richest families, tells human rights groups to essentially F-off, dismisses legitimate fears of mothers across the state, and now he is acting like a petty little child, tearing down artwork that represents the struggle of Maine workers. On a side note, I am so sick of listening to his polarizing/just plain irritating representative Adrianne Bennet in the news, while he goes off to do radio shows that don’t even broadcast in this state. Lepage is a sad, pathetic excuse for a human being, and I believe Maine citizens need to stand up and prevent MINI BUSH from flushing anymore of our rights down the drain.

  • Anonymous

    The USS Maine Memorial in Bangor, represents a lie.
    The explosion was from inside the ship.
    It needs to go, too, Govenah.

  • Anonymous

    Actually Timmy, That’s your take on the governor, not many of us out here. many of us respect his vision for a new business climate and appreciate the fact he’s got big gonads and not afraid to stand up to the status quo.

    We’re also willing to give him a chance before passing judgment. If he fails, then he will be voted out, but 3 months is too soon to know how this will all play out.

  • Anonymous

    Go LePage!!!!!!!! Lets put something positive on the walls in the DOL offices in Augusta. Lets inspire people with hope and positive thoughts about what can happen here in Maine. Lets look at pictures (and I mean photographs) of sucessful businesses and business men and women, young and old. I would love to see Hancock County’s most sucessful employer the Jackson Laboratory on the wall there. It would be a really nice showcase for large and small business alike.

  • Anonymous

    Because without that 12% setting wage standards for similar work in the private sector, the private sector can then lower wages and have a new and improved wage scale that allows more profit for the owners of the business. Eliminating labor agreements means opening the door to everyone who is an hourly employee making minimum wage.

  • Anonymous

    I love this post. Missed it before. let me finish it for him….

    “Paul LePage cannot erase our history, and he will not silence the voice of the working class in Maine.” ….. We will do that ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    And I apologize for over-reacting. Normally, I’m fairly level headed. Normally. But not always. :-)

  • Anonymous

    Did you know that your heroes Maple, Limbaugh, Beck, O’Reilly, Carr, are all Union members? Hmmm, politics makes strange bedfellows, huh?

  • Anonymous

    You are seriously delusional, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks to LePage, the battle cry will not longer be “Remember The Maine!!!”, but instead, “Remember Maine??? Anyone? Anyone??”

  • Anonymous

    Time for a recall law here in Maine !! The Governor days in Wis. are numbered too recall is on the way

  • Anonymous

    Have you ever been to that building? Have you ever had to sit in line to see a representative there? I have several times and the business owners that enter that building are far and few between. Most everyone sitting in the waiting rooms there are struggling Maine citizens, so YOUR post is not based in logic buddy! The mural depicts the struggle of the very people that look at it everyday! And for the few business owners that do enter, they should be able to see how hard Maine citizens are willing to work from that mural, but I guess a bare eggshell wall is supposed to be a better example of “marketing our state”?

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    I believe the article was about removing the mural from the building housing the Labor Department. But since you asked, it took Cianbro and the Democratic state senators they had in their pocket two decades to bust the unions in Maine and drive all the jobs out of the state. They’re not coming back overnight.

  • Anonymous

    Why has he violated any laws???

    Look into the Buffonery John Baldacci had going on for 8 years.If you look you probably would find tons of criminal activity that happend there.

    I don’t belong to any union and I work. Would you concider me a part of the working class?? Or does that title belong to only those who belong to a union.

  • Anonymous

    First it was the nurses…then the state workers…then the teachers…then the mill workers…now it is ART DEPICTING WORKERS…

    Wake up you blind sheep to the psychotic fascists behind the goon that 36% of registered voters chose. You’re next.

    Last I knew…Maine WORKERS purchased goods in MAINE…putting (supposedly) other people to WORK…and now Mr. “Open for Business” LIEpage and his Heritage Policy Center Gestapo are looking to crush those workers UNION OR OTHERWISE. What side of history will you be left standing on you Fascist Goons?

  • Anonymous

    I see the comments section is littered with the weak and deluded lemmings that LePage loves so much because they add their uninformed chorus to his dwindling supporters. Socialism and Unionism are diametrically opposed. If unions were socialist they would be orgasmic over receiving minimum wage for skilled positions in industry, not fighting for workers like you (I assume you work and make a set wage) to earn enough to make a better life for your family. Without unions and the increased standard of living they introduced, no hourly worker would make enough buy anything but food and basic shelter. I beg you to read your history and stop listening to rhetoric wafting through the airwaves created by those who would love to have you making $2.00 an hour with no health insurance, no vacation, and no overtime. Socialism does not relate in any way to a Union.

  • Anonymous

    Laugh it up, Fascist Goon…They’ll come for you next…

  • Anonymous

    So the unions have exclusive rights to being called the working class??? So 90% of the people working in Maine don’t belong to or are not concidered working class… because we don’t belong to a cult… Oh!! I mean union. Sorry I mixed them up because they both follow a leader. What ever happened to Janet Reno?

  • Anonymous

    Here, here, sf98. Maple receives some validation for his uninformed rants from like-minded, similarly ostracized and angry people who also have never had anyone listen to anything they say. They think they have finally found a place in society whereas before commenting in the BDN they felt as insignificant as a tick on an elephant. What they don’t know is that they are still that insignificant. Better to ignore maple and those like him rather than reinforce the behavior by commenting on his comments.

  • Anonymous

    There will be no new jobs in this country. The corporations have decided to move offshore. That’s where the job growth is. Job growth in this country will be decided by our willingness to work for third world wages. All LaPlague and his backers want is to insure that it happens. A race to the bottom for workers.

  • Anonymous

    It is not the governors job to worry about freaking murals in the department of labor building. Period.

    Maybe LePage should focus on figuring out how to glue his mouth shut and focus on real issues, not art work which represents a part of the people of this state’s history and the history of this country.

    This is why LePage is a complete joke. He behaves like a half-wit and makes the rest of the state look half-witted. If he really wants to help bring jobs into Maine he would understand that no business will come to this state if they think we are all as moronic as he acts at times. I don’t hear many CEO’s saying publicly that women may grow mustaches from BPA and it doesn’t matter, or that the NAACP can kiss their butt, and I don’t hear them telling Obama to go to hell. Why? It is not good for their brand and their business.

    Whether you are a democrat or a republican or preferably a moderate, if you have any intelligence then you must realize that this type of behavior only hurts the state.

  • Anonymous

    I am willing to bet a lot more than you think. But even if there were not very many it may be because the anti-business pro-tax reputation Maine has sent them elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    This is silly propaganda type talk. Without a mill owner with capital to invest in a mill the mill would never open to employ the workers who keep the mill running so that the mill owner can make more money and open another mill and the cycle keeps going. There is no need to overly exalt one class of people over another. Both workers and employers are essential and without both of them, Maine would still exist…it would just be de-populated by people. And the moose would reign supreme.
    Working people, of which I am one, need to stop being overly sensitive. Nobody is “out to get” you. It’s a mural–one that most of you probably never even knew existed until now and one that has done nothing to improve or diminish your existence in any concrete way. You want to dislike LePage, you disagree with his policies, fine. But he is not the satan you make him out to be.

  • Anonymous

    They may visit the capital but I doubt a lot of them visit the Department of Labor. And Maine people visit museums just as much as tourists. The museums are for the people of Maine. If this mural was really for the people, they would put it somewhere people want to go. Who visits the Department of Labor for fun?

  • Anonymous

    oh yes…take down anything positive representing maine workers…and plaster the walls with pictures of people LePage really supports…businesses…yes, that is more positive..LMAO…yes, you are definitely a Mini Bush supporter

  • Anonymous

    What are you talking about? The Mural was paid for by a federal grant!

  • Anonymous

    …because it’s a waste of money to bother with a mural that isn’t hurting anyone being where it is?

  • Anonymous

    but why cost the taxpayers of Maine anything? Why not leave this mural in place, it’s only been up for a couple of years. Seems shortsighted wasting of taxpayer dollars to make a fuss of it now.

  • Anonymous

    How about leave it alone and save the state some money?

  • Tedlick Badkey

    ROFLOL… I guess real workers are just a myth to you?

    Wow… if this man blew donkeys, something tells me you’d be found installing a new electric fence.

  • Anonymous

    I usually tip the phone from my ear. Wait for a pause. Say thank you, no matter where they are in the spiel. Then hang up. Will try your method next time.

  • Anonymous

    What’s next, Narthwoods,…next is selling the space previously occupied by the mural to a sponsor.

    “this space is brought to you by_____”

  • Anonymous

    Nice ok with me. Except I bet I control more of my environment than you do of yours.

  • Anonymous

    whatever happened to LePage being focused on job creation and saving the state money?

    Renaming conference rooms is fine and good, but removing a huge mural from a public place seems like costly, partisan nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    very well said

  • Anonymous

    Umm…your reading comprehension must be in need of fine tuning. Union movements were the backbone of Socialism. The people in the USSR formed Soviets—unions of proletariat workers. They killed the small landowners and the company owners and the aristocracy. Union movements throughout the world arose out of the socialist dogma, which included promoting the rights of workers up to more radical ideas such as destroying corporate ownership through killing the owner class and taking ownership of the means of production by the workers.

  • Anonymous

    “Let’s waste taxpayer money on OUR partisan artwork, now that we are in charge!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Brinkley/1615902287 Tony Brinkley

    Was it federal dollars or private donations that paid for the painting? That might matter?

  • Anonymous

    If you can’t find a job, Innovate. Create your own. Its really not all that hard. You just have to work a bit longer than 40 hours a week. Don’t rely on some employer if you don’t want to. Set your own agenda.

  • Anonymous

    Recall (REMOVE FROM OFFICE) LePage………..!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Interesting. If you know anyone there a quick email might settle it. These things sometimes come with limitations. Maybe there were reproduction rights or something. I’ll come back to see what you found out if you plan on pursuing it.

  • Anonymous

    Well, if the visits have been few and far between, I’d say it is definitely time for change. What you are saying only reinforces the realty that the state of Maine has not been working hard enough to attract businesses. It just verifies that Mainers are desperate for new business to give them jobs.

    In fact based on many studies Maine ranks in the lower percentile for business and career friendliness.

    I want Mainers to succeed. I want to attract new business, new corporations. The people of Maine are screaming for new opportunity.

    The mural itself, while historical, is no longer appropriate. It doesn’t convey the right message. It is part of the past. It belongs in a museum. We need change, now.

  • Anonymous

    Ahem, this isn’t Russia in the twenties after Stalin bastardized the concept of Socialism which was in fact Totalitarianism. That Aristocracy was and is as corrupt as our new Aristocracy, the Fortune 500. Slavery is slavery, no matter the century. If you wish to be enslaved, have at it. If you want a place where there is no government oversight, no taxes, and very low wages, take your laptop and move to Somalia where you will find all of these things and more. Those that don’t have to play by the rules, make the rules. Just like Stalin.

  • Anonymous

    What the heckers does that mean? You can adjust the thermostat? I can’t, it’s run by computer, so I guess you’re right.

  • Anonymous

    What a closed-minded statement.

  • http://travelah.blogspot.com/ Conservative Monstrosity

    real workers and government union workers? nah

  • http://travelah.blogspot.com/ Conservative Monstrosity

    It is putting a stop to propaganda games. The jobs are in the private sector and I think it is only fair to give him a bit more than 2 or 3 months to have some effective impact. Ask your question a couple years from now.

  • http://travelah.blogspot.com/ Conservative Monstrosity

    I have two positions to fill right now. You would not be qualified for either one of them.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Your use of copy/paste is to be commended. However, to maintain
    credibility, sources must be cited with credit given to the creator of the
    works. Lacking this, your practice constitutes plagiarism and simply can’t
    be considered your work.

    And since one laughs with their mouth/face, I’m assuming that from your
    closing, the places with which you are laughing happen to be the same place.

    Good day

  • Anonymous

    Really? I’ve seen better graffiti on a passing train car.
    Not that I’m a huge art fan. I do have two Tom Hennessey originals that actually appear to be painted by a talented person.

  • Anonymous

    Stupid move just to satisfy the incessant whining of some ‘tard who doesn’t even have the courage to sign his own name to the letter…..

    One thing though—$60,000. for the mural????? I must be in the wrong business! It’s almost as ridiculous as when the Frankfort School board paid $7500. for an “artist” to “arrange” a half dozen pieces of raw granite on the front lawn of the school! It’s covered with snow half the year, and you can’t even see it the rest of the year because it’s out by the road and surrounded by brush!

  • Anonymous

    Abso-friggin’-lutely!!! It’s the risk-takers that create jobs. God Bless us all!!!!

  • Anonymous

    While I enjoyed your rant, I don’t see what it had to do with my post,

    “The Union movement is all that keeps big business in check.”
    While that may be true in corporations I don’t believe unions belong in the public sector jobs that are funded by the taxpayers.

    “LePage already stated that he wanted to “Rethink” minimum wage.”
    I see nothing wrong with this, has he said what he thinks of it now?

    “I believe that the artist was being kind when this history was painted.”

    I believe the artist was showing her union colors and rubbing the taxpayers noses in it when she managed to get this mural into this Government building.

  • Anonymous

    This mural belongs in a union hall not in a government building.

  • Anonymous

    The short answer to your rant is you are pro-union and I am not.

  • Anonymous

    Maine laborers have “abused” Maine businesses???
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    Many employees steal from their employers, many file fraudulent worker’s comp claims and win awards even though they are not injured… I would tend to call that abuse.

  • Anonymous

    Because it’s in the wrong place, it doesn’t belong in a government building and shouldn’t have been allow their in the first place. Just because it’s there now doesn’t change the fact that it is offensive to some Maine people to have it there. Actually a union hall would be a more appropriate place for it.

  • Anonymous

    I dont think he will stop here next it will be the state flag. He will replace the Fisherman and the farmer with a Business logo. because after maine is no longer aloud to have labor workers unless the work at mardins.

  • Anonymous

    I doubt if this mural goes the mills will be hiring children anytime soon, but being a little more realistic and allowing people younger than 16 y.o. to work at some jobs in their spare time wouldn’t do any harm and would help instill at least a little work ethic in them.
    Young people to day don’t know how to work when they become of age because they have never been allowed to.

  • Anonymous

    What is up with LePage? Burger Meister Meister Burger syndrome???……….
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    Did someone say BURGERS??? yummmmmmmmmmm!

  • Anonymous

    Lets see, we’ve had Lepage telling people to kiss his butt….our politicians in Augusta debating on whether whoopie pies or blue berry pies should be the state dessert ( in a time when a lot of us couldn’t afford either) now GOVERNOR LePage wants to tear down a mural because it offends some “secret admirer”….is the Paul Bunyun Statue soon to be replaced with a statue of LePage. the host of the newest reality show? People, is it any wonder the french have a reputation for stupidity! Don’t say I am a racist or bigot..I am french, but thank GOD not as ignorant as our governor!

  • Anonymous

    Of course! Why didn’t I think of that? It makes so much sense. Wonder who
    the high bidder might be? Maybe the Maine Heritage folks will have an idea.

  • Anonymous

    Our politicians have so little to do that they debate on whoopie pies and blueberry pies as our state dessert…in a time when so many cannot afford either. Our governor LePage…he tells people to “kiss his butt”, wants to destroy a mural because a “secret admirer ” is offended. Is the next item of business going to involve tearing down the Paul Bunyun Statue and replacing it with Maines newest reality star? Is it any wonder we french have had so many jokes and stories told about us being stupid? Look what we voted into office!

  • Anonymous

    A secret admirer!!! This is pathetic, just pathetic. This needs to stop. RECALL.

  • Anonymous

    You’re too late to debate $$ spent years ago on the mural. That’s water over the dam.

    The current question is whether we leave it where it is at no cost, or spend additional money to move it in what’s basically a symbolic gesture (a jab at unions).

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I was being facetious. How dumb can LaPage be to consider the mural one sided. What other side is there? Obviously labor has not abused business.

    It’s all in how you at look things.

    Nathan Nicholls
    483 Bremen rd
    Waldoboro, Maine 04572
    recyclesculptor@yahoo.com
    Myspace.com/recyleart
    Tel# 207-8324938

  • Anonymous

    New businesses don’t care about a mural in the Department of Labor. Or a sign on the interstate in Kittery. Or whether the Whoopie Pie or the Blueberry Pie wins.

    New businesses decide where to locate based on things like tax breaks / incentives, about tax rates, regulations, energy costs, quality of life, the pool of qualified workers, the local wage.

    When is the new GOP governor and his GOP majority going to address an issue that might actually create new jobs? Huh?

  • http://profiles.google.com/reginaldconwayiii Reginald Conway

    Oh great! Just what Maine needs! An interior decorator in chief! Hey LaPage, here’s a hint: GET TO WORK.

  • MARINE73

    This ridiculous $60,000 cartoon is a depiction of pro-unionism, not the labor history of Maine, who are you trying to fool? There’s a reason why no one is smiling, they are all downtrodden by “The Man.” The real question is who authorized the purchase of it in the first place? Thank you, thank you, thank you for removing it from a public building. Employers have it hard enough, are we to alienate them in our Labor Department on top of everything else we do to discourage them from coming to Maine?

  • Anonymous

    I feel like I am now living in a communist state! Mr. Lepage is suppose to be solving job problems not remodeling the buildings. I don’t agree with all of the “Union” stuff…but what he is doing is taking away a part of Maine’s history. And renaming those rooms, give me a break! How radical is that?
    You know with all of the mean spirited stuff that this man is doing, I hope there is one thing to be learned here. When an important election like this comes up again, Democrats, Independents PLEASE…use some common sense voting. For you folks that loved Libby Mitchell, Shawn Moody and Kevin Scott and voted for them..knowing that they were behind in the race shouldn’t be on here complaining! If you had voted for Elliot Cutler, he may not have been the “love” of your life, however, I can tell you he most likely wouldn’t have been as radical as this guy that barely won over him! Gov. Lepage doesn’t care about anyone but his friends and followers. He doesn’t realize that they are not the only ones living here in Maine and we too pay taxes and we too should have some say about stuff.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, I think this man is predjudice.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. For those who don’t like it, just don’t look at it.

  • Anonymous

    Generous retirement benefits?

    The average state retiree – which includes our local teachers – is $18,500. And most cannot draw any Social Security, no matter haw many qualifying quarters they’ve worked.

  • Anonymous

    2+2=5

    War=Peace

  • Anonymous

    Have you actually been there to be offended, or are you offended by proxy?

  • Anonymous

    I saw on The Daily Show’s Facebook page they’ve posted a question about whacky conservative Governor’s. Here’s your chance, Mainer’s! Speak up to the national pseudo-media, and let them know how insane this bozo is…

    http://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/posts/10150175054731800

  • Anonymous

    Chairman Mao as the leader of the chinese ordered the removal of art that did not depict the struggle of the working class. It is only fair that Mr. Lepage be able to do the same thing for business. How did that eventually work out for Mao?
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    I think you are mistaken on Mao Tse Tung removing artwork—but, nonetheless, if he actually did, it didn’t hurt him a bit. China still considers him a national hero—so I guess it worked out pretty well for him.

  • Anonymous

    The “Birdie Googins” conference room (she’s the beautiful lady in the Marden’s commercials)
    ***************************
    Best idea ever! She’s a native Mainah AND a union member to boot! (SAG)

  • Anonymous

    He hides and censors historic images that run counter to his ideals.
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    The mural isn’t an historic image—it is an artist’s rendering of specific incidents and a copy of a previous artist’s rendering of a single iconic figure (Rosie the Riveter) meant to represent numerous women who replaced men in skilled labor jobs after they went overseas during WW2. My mom was a “Rosie”.

  • Anonymous

    You say it’s not a historic image and then go on to describe it as an image from history.

  • Anonymous

    You say it’s not a historic image and then go on to describe it as an image from history
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    Correct—because an historic image is not the same thing as an artist’s rendering of a past event. An historic image is a piece of artwork that is….historic. A Rembrandt is an example of an historic image…a Degas…a Dali…a Picasso….a Grandma Moses…capice? Maybe, a couple hundred years from now, this mural may become an historic image.

  • Anonymous

    Every single one you listed was an artist.

  • Anonymous

    our gov. behaves more like a used care salesman than an elected official of the highest order.
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    what do you have against used car salesmen? They work hard, they EARN their pay, they don’t sit around collecting welfare or unemployment or expect their mommies to support them.

  • Anonymous

    Every single one you listed was an artist.
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    Yes, they were—you’re picking this up quickly ;-) and their paintings are historic images.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, one critical comment and he wants to take it down? Ridiculous. Now we have to worry about the tyranny of the minority. Keep the mural up. It is a testament to Maine’s history. Frances Perkins was a major figure behind the New Deal. I guess the governor thinks elderly people should be improverished living in poor houses again.

  • Anonymous

    0 x 0 = 00

  • Anonymous

    The mural represents labor specifically because it’s in the department of labor.

  • Anonymous

    LePage truly listens to the people he agrees with.

  • Anonymous

    I find the mural offensive. It is a one sided story. When you deal with the Department of Labor when you are unemployed, do you use their resources to find a job? Where do those jobs come from? Employers! The Department of Labor should reflect the good of both employees and employers. Not all employees are union employees. In fact only about 13% are union. And
    of those 13% most are Democrats. Now Democrats and unions have their undies in a bunch. They don’t represent the other 87% of the workforce, yet they are the big story, every time a Republican does something they don’t like, all do is whine. Maybe it is time to get over it and start worrying about jobs and the economy. No employers…no jobs, and then you too will be a part of that mural, in the chow line, living in a cardboard box and holding a little sign that says…need work.

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