LePage unveils strategy to rebuild Maine deer herd

Declining winter deer habitat is a major concern throughout northern Maine, including the Moosehead Lake area where this deer was photographed last winter.
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Declining winter deer habitat is a major concern throughout northern Maine, including the Moosehead Lake area where this deer was photographed last winter.
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AUGUSTA, Maine — Citing the importance of a healthy deer herd to Maine’s economy and heritage, Gov. Paul LePage and the state’s top game official on Thursday unveiled a multipoint strategy to replenish the white tail numbers in hardest-hit areas.

LePage said a string of severe winters, habitat loss, attacks by coyotes and human causes including poaching and highway collisions are at the heart of a loss of deer that’s especially serious in northern, eastern and western Maine. Deer are abundant in the southern and central parts of the state.

Deer hunting and viewing represent at least $200 million a year in Maine’s economy, drawing money to motels, sporting camps, restaurants, guide services and other businesses, LePage said. Maine registers roughly 146,000 resident hunters and nearly 30,000 nonresident hunters.

But fall deer harvests have dropped in recent years to some of the lowest levels recorded in the state, said Senate President Kevin Raye. That leaves Maine, long known for its big bucks, in the position of becoming less desirable to hunters.

“The value of our whitetail population cannot be overstated,” said Raye, a Republican whose Washington County district is one of those hit by low deer numbers.

DIF&W Commissioner Chandler Woodcock said there is no single cause for the decline, which has led to deer density numbers as low as 1.5 to two deer per square mile in some areas, versus a goal of 7 to 10 deer per square mile. But Woodcock said it’s time for action.

“This effort is going to take some time,” said Woodcock. “It won’t happen overnight.”

During a State House press conference on Thursday, Woodcock and LePage outlined a plan that represents several years of discussions between DIF&W officials, sportsmen, lawmakers and wildlife conservation groups.

The plan stresses the importance of recognizing and protecting deer yards, which are areas where deer seek shelter from the snow and weather during winter.

Such deer wintering areas — which typically feature enclosed canopies of fir trees — are critical to the survival of whitetailed deer in Maine, which due to the heavy snow and severe winters represents the northern edge of the species’ range.

The deer restoration plan also includes more coyote control in targeted areas, additional deer-crossing warnings along highways where a lot of collisions occur and higher fines for poaching in hard-hit areas.

One method mentioned Thursday — and endorsed by both LePage and several conservation groups — is to use more funding from the Land for Maine’s Future program to encourage landowners to protect deer yards, which are locations where deer seek shelter during winter.

But LePage’s support for using LMF funds to protect deer yards could come into conflict with his clear opposition to new bonding measures.

In November, voters approved $6.5 million in bonds for LMF programs that target forests and wildlife habitat. Traditionally, competition for LMF funding is intense, with the program’s board receiving far more requests than can be accommodated.

Sen. David Trahan, a Waldoboro Republican who has been helping lead the effort to rebuild Maine’s deer herd, has proposed a $36 million bond measure to replenish LMF accounts. When asked whether he was prepared to say how he felt about Trahan’s LMF bond package, LePage replied with a simple “no.”

Trahan said language he has proposed would give more weight to LMF proposals that seek to protect deer yards. Those changes are a critical part of any effort moving forward and a significant policy change that he hopes the Legislature will endorse, Trahan said.

As for the debate over bonding, Trahan indicated he believes it would be premature to discuss the issue since lawmakers have yet to decide whether to approve a bond package.

“That is a policy decision that is now in the Legislature’s jurisdiction,” Trahan said.

Predators — coyotes in particular — are often mentioned as a major cause of the low deer numbers in many parts of Maine. But Woodcock said coyotes and bears are not solely to blame for the struggles of deer in Maine. And as the intense debates over coyote snaring and hunting bear over bait illustrated, significantly expanding hunting of either of those two predators would likely encounter substantial political kickback.

Speaking after the media event, Trahan said he believes the coyote snaring issue is off the table. He also acknowledged that restoring the deer herd in some areas may take as long as 15 or 20 years, but the key is protecting both deer habitat and deer in that habitat.

“Until we have habitat, we are not going to get there,” Trahan said.

The plan has support from an array of sporting and conservation organizations, whose members crowded a State House news conference.

Among them was John Chapman of Athens, whose 250 acres includes a deer yard he manages. Chapman describes a typical deer yard as a cedar or fir stand that provides a covering from deep snow, nourishment from trees and protection from sharp winter winds. He said a deer without a yard “is like a cow without a barn.”

Aside from advising other landowners how to maintain those yards, Chapman provides feed to help deer get through the winter, a practice generally frowned upon by state biologists. But a bill seen as one of the multiple strategies to rebuild the deer herd seeks to establish standards to feed deer.

“You just want to get them through to the next spring,” said Chapman. “And if you get them through the spring, what you’ve got is a good rack there.”

LePage said he has also sent a letter to federal wildlife officials asking for a decision on Maine’s applications for a so-called “incidental take permit” to absolve the state — or trappers — from liability if they accidentally kill a Canada lynx through otherwise legal trapping practices.

Maine DIF&W has been the target of several lawsuits contending that the state’s trapping regulations were causing harm to populations of the federally protected wildcats because lynx occasionally end up in traps.

In response to court orders, the state added additional restrictions on trappers in hopes of avoiding additional incidents involving lynx. But despite several revisions to its application, Maine has yet to receive an incidental take permit from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

LePage said, however, that he was “very encouraged” that the federal government will give the state an answer.

“The whole issue is around the Canadian lynx and I keep telling them that, remember, it is Canadian lynx and we live in Maine,” LePage said with a smile.

BDN reporter Kevin Miller contributed to this report.

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  • Anonymous

    There’s a typo in the caption. “Decling”

  • Anonymous

    There’s a typo in the caption.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry for the double post.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYD4MZNHJVHS6VN5XSM63QC3CM Bonny

    Governor LePage is such an inspirational leader. He has the foresight to see a declining deer population as a sign of a declining Maine. The state is so lucky that they finally have some one to pull them out of the welfare state of the past.

  • Anonymous

    There seem to be lots of deer in Washington County, people keep hitting them on Rte 9, they are hard on the gardens in the summer, they knock down fences and let the horses out. I saw 6 or 7 in the blueberry fields on 191 near Machias last week, and we usually have a small herd in my neighborhood right on Rte 1. Maybe the “take” is down because fewer folks can afford to hunt…

  • Anonymous

    Hey Penguin – how about we shoot less of them for a season or two and give them a chance to recover?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1718528703 Josh Mobber

    Relocate the deer off of MDI island, we have thousands for ya! :) not a week goes by that someone doesn’t hit one, and I had many run out in front of me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DK2NSO2GYJSIRQOPYAXLKVEIA4 James

    Move over Johnny Wiesmuller, here comes Gov. LePage. In the short span of three months, he has tamed the teachers union, wrestled the budget deficit in submission, and stimulated the ovaries of whitetail deer all over the State of Maine. This guy is dynamite! What’s next?Maybe he will neuter all the democrats in a single swipe and replace the missing parts with two golden tea bags.

  • Anonymous

    No tpo…they meant to say ‘dingaling’.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe we need more homeland security money to keep the Lynx from crossing the border and having anchor cubs that get in the way of killing coyotes for just doing what they do.

  • Anonymous

    The deer are just moving to southern Maine like everyone else.

  • Mungo Munro

    Governor Bizarro said we should allow more incidental trapping of Canadian lynx because we live in Maine and Lynx have the word Canadian in their name.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t have a clue, and prove it here most every day.

  • Anonymous

    Killing bucks doesn’t hurt the population as much as you think. Bucks will impregnate multiple does. I will concede that we should stop issuing antlerless deer permits.

  • Anonymous

    Its not rocket science. Really.

  • Anonymous

    Junk dealer now omnipotent authority of all things and a multi-point strategy to boot, ya think it was a PowerPoint presentation? gdamaha.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYD4MZNHJVHS6VN5XSM63QC3CM Bonny

    Hate filled name calling is not a liberal trait, or is it?

  • Anonymous

    Paul I bet likes his venison …. pan size.

  • Anonymous

    I’m more worried about the Woodcock. Chandler looks like he maybe constipated?

  • Anonymous

    he’s going to make it a law that deer are not allowed on the road……..

  • Anonymous

    More government intrusion……..let nature take its course!

  • Anonymous

    we like guns too, a lot. So couple that with hate filled name calling you’ll find wingnuts and liberals have at least two things in common. Right?

  • Anonymous

    “The whole issue is around the Canadian lynx and I keep telling them that, remember, it is Canadian lynx and we live in Maine,” LePage said with a smile.

    More Lepage Logic!

  • Anonymous

    If I hit my head with a ball peen hammer from now until 2050 I could not make myself dumber than Paul LePage. Canada lynx prey almost exclusively on snowshoe hare. Sen. Dave Trahan said it correctly: “Until we have habitat (for deer), we are not going to get there.” He meant winter habitat, which means large uncut mature stands of black spruce and cedar and fir which keeps the snow depths down and winter browse readily available. These things (called ‘deer yards’) were all clearcut in the 1980s which is why the whitetail population has plummeted in the northern half of Maine. They won’t come back until it comes back.

  • Anonymous

    Change the Any deer lottery and put in a lottery where the only people in the drawing are those who have dispatched a coyote!
    Anyone who dispatches 5 or more Coyotes gets an anydeer permit!

  • Anonymous

    They are democrats, they are already neutered….

  • Anonymous

    Um, did you even read the article beofre you made that comment? The issue with canada lynx is the fact that trapping regulations have to be ammended to reduce incidentaly trapping of them… Not because they are killing deer. Where the heck did you get your information???
    Sounds like the Gov is much smarter than you (mainly because he can read) and you need to start working with that hammer.

  • Anonymous

    It was a joke, and since it made a liberal angry, we all get to laugh a bit more…

    Thank you Gov!!!

  • Anonymous

    You really should think before you hit the post button…I have seen game camera footage of Bobcats and Lynx taking down deer..If they lived mostly on rabbits there wouldn’t be any cats around…A 50 pound Bobcat was trapped just up the road from my house..It was in the paper…Deer yards are only PART of the problem…Deer need fields and choppings to get grass and other feed as well…Most of the areas I used to hunt are all grown up so thick you can’t get thru it…We have lost thousands of acres of farm land , fields and choppings to forest…Not only do deer need them but rabbits , partridge and other game need them too…It wouldn’t hurt to thin out the damn Turkeys either..The nasty things are everywhere eating food that deer and other game need as well……

  • Anonymous

    There should be a no closed shoot on sight season on coyotes..Maybe a bounty even…

  • Mungo Munro

    People know it was a joke. Everything Lepage is a sad twisted joke from this snide socio-path,

  • Anonymous

    Hunting has no impact on the deer herd.

  • Anonymous

    Finally, a governor who understands predation impacts on a vulnerable animal. Lots and lots of dead deer have been discovered by woodcutters this winter in the region I live in. All coyote kills. Sometimes 6-8 all together in one bunch. All run down and killed. No they were not sick, weak, or injured deer. They were perfectly healthy animals harrassed and chased to the max until their bodies finally gave out to constant pressure in a cold hard environment.

  • Anonymous

    How about protecting the winter yards?They won’t recover even without hunting if you don’t protect their habitat.Your idea is totally absurd,let more deer starve to death with no food and no shelter real good!!

  • Anonymous

    There already is no closed season on coyote.

  • Anonymous

    its the Canada Lynx, not canadian lynx…and by the way..there are lots of lynx in maine and plenty in canada..its just some econuts got worked up because they never saw one from their suburban armchair and got it listed.

  • http://twitter.com/rklindell R. Kenneth Lindell

    I read a lot of blather, bot no actual action being taken. How about killing some coyotes?

  • Mungo Munro

    I was paraphrasing your Goveonor Lepage’s dumb joke. “I keep telling them that remember, it’s Canadian lynx and we live in Maine.”…………………. I’m glad to know that you have personally counted all the Lynx in both Canada and Maine and have assured us there are plenty to go around.

  • Anonymous

    Huh..I never knew Maine was, “long known for its big bucks”
    I know the Bushes live here in the summer along with Matha Stewart
    but hey I guess thats all good news.

  • Anonymous

    I think he could have been saying that if the Canada lynx stay in Canada he wouldn’t be getting caught in Maine trappers traps, but I know you are not to be reasoned with when it comes to our Governor so don’t bother reply, my post was just for the readers that may have missed that point.

  • Anonymous

    see tracks fairly often, know foresters with photos of multiple ones and see them all the time up north. Ask a Maine wildlife biologist. The canada lynx population and habitat situation in Maine is a non-issue. It’s just that there is federal mandate hanging over us.

  • Anonymous

    The coyote is such a shy animal when it comes to humans that if they rely on people controlling them with firearms they will never shrink their numbers. The area where I live has many,many coyote’s but you only see one on a rare occasion. The coyote is a real threat to deer and the problem will have to be addressed if the deer are to make a comeback. jmho

  • Anonymous

    Never has a state been able to change coyote numbers by upping the kill, it shows a lack of understanding of the biology of the animals, their breeding being controlled by available territory, but WTH, it’ll be a fun hunt. The State shouldn’t waste money on a bounty though. That’s incredibly stupid.

  • Anonymous

    One thing you can count on, there ain’t nothing natural about nature anymore.

  • Anonymous

    “Hate filled name calling” is a human trait. It is used by the young and immature to attempt to assert dominance in social relationships. Some grow older but never mature.

  • Anonymous

    Coyotes respond to increased hunting pressure by having more pups per litter.

  • Anonymous

    Jeez, James, you sound bittah!

  • Diogenes

    I agree with LePage that Trahan’s proposal to borrow $36 million in our name thru bonds is the wrong way to pay for deer yard improvement. Obviously the fair way is for the money to come from those who directly benefit from the increased deer population, and the increased hunting it will provide.

    Simply add a Deer Yard Conservation Surcharge to the cost of hunting licenses, guide fees, sporting camp fees, etc. Pay to play is the American way.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a hunter, but how ’bout not shooting the deer for a couple years?
    I’d guess that the 18,000 healthy deer we kill every year have as big an effect the population as the ones the coyotes kill.

  • Diogenes

    “Lots and lots of dead deer have been discovered by woodcutters this winter in the region I live in. All coyote kills.”

    If I were a poaching woodcutter, I too would blame it on coyotes.

  • Anonymous

    The woodcutters I mentioned do not even hunt, let alone poach. If that’s what they said, then there isn’t anything else to say about it. These are rural and urban areas. Try being hired to cut wood in these places and shoot weapons off unnoticed.

  • Anonymous

    Chris1943, the area on Route 9 you are talking about is a deer wintering area and Washington County Conservation Association has been trying to get D.O.T. to put up flashing signs in the winter to help avoid deer vehicle collisions. As the snow leaves, you will see less and less of them as many of them will follow their migratory routes back to where they live during the other three seasons.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t read this as “buying and protecting deer yards”. I read this comment to mean “he will use federal money to bribe landowners into doing what he wants”. I’d bet a buck that most of those landowners would also be benefitting from his proposed tax cuts.
    Lepage needs to step it up a bit…I’ve stopped being surprised every other morning when I read the latest Augusta blunder.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, this liberal knows more about game management and the 2nd Amendment than any of you left or right whacks. And I think the right has the “hate” thing covered pretty well. At least the left understands reality. And my management plan is to take a few a year off the back 40 and put ‘em in the freezer to offset the taxes LePage wants me to pay while he cuts the rich folk’s burden.

  • Anonymous

    LePage is all talk and his only action is to FUND his BIG contributors…

  • Anonymous

    At least they’re not dickless.

  • Anonymous

    Back in the 70′s when they brought the coyote into the state it was a great thing, thats what they said anyway. We need a $50 bounty on coyote until they are all gone…

  • Anonymous

    Following Mr. Woodcock’s & Mr. LePage’s plan, in four years we should have this problem licked.

    Here are the earth shattering, deer multiplying solutions they’ve come up with:

    Continue three things that are already being done.

    Also,

    Convene a working group!

    and,

    Conduct more research!

    as well as,

    Identify problems!

    and last but not least,

    Ask for more tax money!

    Oil up the old musket. Plenty of venison on the way with these geniuses in charge.

  • Anonymous

    You really need to change your username, because you are totally the opposite of it.

  • Anonymous

    Just small

  • Anonymous

    You need to learn to read before you put your foot in your mouth.

  • Anonymous

    Please explain to the rest of us what Baldy did to protect the deer?? I have a feeling Lepage is going to do more, want to put some money on it?

  • Anonymous

    You are wrong. When snaring was allowed, there were less yutes around.

  • Anonymous

    Then you do not know Maine. Look it up. Over 300 pounders are shot almost every year. Over 200 shot all the time. Try to shoot a deer that size in the Southern states.

  • Anonymous

    Many in Maine like the breath of fresh air. We also love it when you Libs get your panties in a bind, that’s the real joke.

  • Anonymous

    We obviously have a different perspective on things. I don’t personally think there is enough data suggesting that this is a real issue. I also don’t believe that deer hunting alone brings in $200M+ dollars annually….I’d love to see where that data is coming from. I’d rather Lepage reconsider his stance on education in this state instead of worrying about sport game. He is backwards to my personal views in just about every way…obviously I didn’t vote for him nor know anybody who did.

  • Anonymous

    You are so far out in left field… You have definitely lost touch with reality.

  • Anonymous

    Does a human being actually review the comments here?

    Yesterday in another story about the latest mischief our governor is up to (declining to include himself in the pension sacrifice he asks of union state workers), Brian Harnish made a comment that was subsequently removed. His comment was replaced with these words: “This comment is awaiting approval.” I’m not aware any comment so censored ever sees the light of day again, certainly not in time to be any longer relevant or, for that matter, seen again by mortal eyes.

    But because I happened to like what he said and punched the “like” button I have a record of it in the Disqus “dashboard” section. I bring this up because I myself have had comments removed for no discernible reason. I’m aware this is also the experience of others. Here is what Mr. Harnish wrote:

    “Yet another example of LePage’s idiocy (like we needed it). he should be contributing MORE than is required by others…as he’s paid directly by the people he’s serving. Oh wait, I forgot..he’s a Republican. :/”

    Why was this censored? Does the editor in charge of the BDN online service disapprove of referring to the “idiocy” of our governor, even if it’s patently obvious to the whole wide world? Or is there a dumb computer program somewhere that kills a comment the moment the word “idiocy” appears, much as it would if a conventional four-letter Anglo-Saxon vulgarity were employed?

    Mr. Editor, inquiring minds want to know. Now that this wonderful medium for democratic public expression has emerged, please don’t restrict it for capricious and irrational reasons.

  • Anonymous

    What a shame. Another liberal gets wrapped around an axle because they lost. Get over it…

  • Anonymous

    Thousands of from away deer hunters up this way every year. I think those numbers came from the Baldacci administration. I think that to keep revenue flowing into the state is important to funding all aspects of our government… including education.

    It is obvious that people with views similar to yours have been running the state for years.. Look where that has gotten us.

  • Anonymous

    A suggestion come to MDI and take what we have which is way too many and transport them to Northern Maine…A win win for both places

  • Anonymous

    Maybe we could have an artificial insemination program for the deer, like we do for cattle and horses. !!!!!

  • Mungo Munro

    Maine lost when Lepage was elected.

  • Anonymous

    SGinNE I don’t need data to know the deer herd is in a very sad state. Because of where I spend my time and where I live …I know they aren’t where they used to be…at least not in the numbers they used be there in. For all the above reasons deer yards, sickness, starvation you name it Maine is not going to be where the hunters want to spend their money if something isn’t done. Soon. As far as 200 mil? I have reservations that the deer hunt brings that much money in by itself anymore. But Deer, Moose, Bear ,etc. Yes it brings in a chunk of change that Maine doesn’t want to or cannot afford to lose. While I understand that not everyone hunts or even approves of hunting I would think that everyone should be able to agree that maintaining Maine’s wildlife in a healthy state is wise. It is one of the things that people come here too enjoy. However they enjoy it. As to where the data comes from…One item would be the hunter/tourist driven surveys the state has had in place for two or three seasons now. I have filled out a few of those myself and I can tell you I am not driving around for hours and writing down “I saw 30 deer”. Maybe 1 or 2. There are more deer in Southern Maine than there are in the upper part of the state. Imho.
    I too wish LePage would reconsider his stance on Education and I didn’t vote for him either.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t be the Cougars getting them because the “powers that be” claim there are not any in Maine. What a foolish thought!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I like how the Republicans are reducing spending and debt.Not!

  • Mungo Munro

    You love it when men wears panties????

  • Mungo Munro

    Unless you are a professional tracker it is very easy to confuse Lynx tracks with Bob cat and even k-9 tracks. …I think the DIFW estimate of 1000 Lynx in Maine is high considering they didn’t think there were any breeding females in Maine just 10 years ago.

  • Anonymous

    “They” brought the coyote into the state? Which “they” is that ? Had the wolves not been exterminated by losses of habitat, moose and caribou (which were also exterminated), coyotes wouldn’t have migrated in to fill the void. No one – no one – has eliminated coyotes by bounty hunting, poison or any other method. They are a successful, adaptive, omnivore species – perhaps more so then we are. Who knows, considering the rate we’re going in our own habitat protection?
    We can control our own predatory role much better than we can control another’s, so we’d better get cracking! Since the white tail deer (Odocoileus virginianus) probably wouldn’t be here at all if white farmers and logger hadn’t moved in and created habitat for them, maybe we ought to concentrate solely on habitat improvement if we want them around for recreational killing. The coyotes won’t kill them off – we’re the only predator with the proven ability to exterminate its food sources, and we solved that problem by domesticating many of them. In their own way, that’s what the private commercial hunting parks are doing, after all. Maybe it’s not such a bad idea for all deer hunting. We raise and stock fish successfully for no other reason than to catch them, and since the economic importance of virginia deer seems to be the overriding concern in this issue, let the market forces go to work. Hunters from home and away, trophy and meat hunters alike, can put their cash to good work by hunting in commercial deer parks where selective breeding and protection from other predators can assure success. Free enterprise at its best, right?
    “But, you might say (as I do), but what about the old days at the deer camp, the smell of coffee on a frosty morning, the trudge to the spring for water, the stew, bourbon and cribbage by the wood stove after a day’s sloggin’ around in wet November snow? What about fathers and sons and gramp’s old thirty-thirty, the one he used to shoot that buck in 1935, the one whose head hangs on the wall?” Great memories and once valuable personal rituals for us all, rituals from another time and another mind-set, I think. Maine was a far more open place then, a place now shrinking under new types of land ownership and changing interests. I wonder whether the idea of what deer hunting entails might have to change too.

  • Anonymous

    “They” brought the coyote into the state? Which “they” is that ? Had the wolves not been exterminated by losses of habitat, moose and caribou (which were also exterminated), coyotes wouldn’t have migrated in to fill the void. No one – no one – has eliminated coyotes by bounty hunting, poison or any other method. They are a successful, adaptive, omnivore species – perhaps more so then we are. Who knows, considering the rate we’re going in our own habitat protection?
    We can control our own predatory role much better than we can control another’s, so we’d better get cracking! Since the white tail deer (Odocoileus virginianus) probably wouldn’t be here at all if white farmers and logger hadn’t moved in and created habitat for them, maybe we ought to concentrate solely on habitat improvement if we want them around for recreational killing. The coyotes won’t kill them off – we’re the only predator with the proven ability to exterminate its food sources, and we solved that problem by domesticating many of them. In their own way, that’s what the private commercial hunting parks are doing, after all. Maybe it’s not such a bad idea for all deer hunting. We raise and stock fish successfully for no other reason than to catch them, and since the economic importance of virginia deer seems to be the overriding concern in this issue, let the market forces go to work. Hunters from home and away, trophy and meat hunters alike, can put their cash to good work by hunting in commercial deer parks where selective breeding and protection from other predators can assure success. Free enterprise at its best, right?
    “But, you might say (as I do), but what about the old days at the deer camp, the smell of coffee on a frosty morning, the trudge to the spring for water, the stew, bourbon and cribbage by the wood stove after a day’s sloggin’ around in wet November snow? What about fathers and sons and gramp’s old thirty-thirty, the one he used to shoot that buck in 1935, the one whose head hangs on the wall?” Great memories and once valuable personal rituals for us all, rituals from another time and another mind-set, I think. Maine was a far more open place then, a place now shrinking under new types of land ownership and changing interests. I wonder whether the idea of what deer hunting entails might have to change too.

  • Anonymous

    While Lepages plan may not be great, lets consider Baldaccis plan.
    1. Wait until we have the worst winter in years in total snowfall
    2. Wait until late march or early april when the deer herd is at its weakest
    3. Start cutting trees along I 95 from Houlton to Howland
    Hundreds upon hundreds of deer were killed during this time period but they made it sound as though it wasnt a big deal and once again got sweeped under the rug.

  • Anonymous

    “Maybe he will neuter all the democrats in a single swipe and replace the missing parts with two golden tea bags.”

    YES!!!! its about time.

  • Anonymous

    Relocating costs to much

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for commenting on our state.

    How are things in New Mexico, Bonny?

    Is your governor as nutty as ours?

  • Anonymous

    I spend alot of time out in the woods, and in the past ten years I’ve had a marked increase in coyote sightings in some areas. I’ve seen them under trees in fields int eh middle of the day, something that I do consider odd for a coyote in the middle of the day. May be shy but as their numbers increase, you’ll see more if you look.

  • Anonymous

    So, let me get this straight….you want to rebuild the deer popultation so that there are more deer available to kill???? Hunters often cite the fact that they are “helping control overpopultion.” I guess this isn’t a credible justification anymore is it?

  • Anonymous

    Pay no attention to Bonny. (S)he lives in New Mexico and has no idea what’s going on here in Maine.

    I suspect (s)he’s one of those who is paid to post here.

  • Anonymous

    One sure way to help inrease the deer population in the specified zones is to place a moratorium on all deer hunting for a couple of years. Or, if that not consistent with keeping out of state hunters in Maine, have a lottery as they do for Moose and limit the number of deer to be hunted in the zones that have a low deer population. More needs to be done that what is being proposed by the Governer and his fish and wildlife commissioner.

  • Anonymous

    I am not trying to be funny or obnoxious or pretending to be uninformed, but I don’t understand what the problem is with the deer population. I live downeast and there are plenty of deer here! Deer/car accidents are a daily occurence. I meet at least three or four deer on my daily 10-mile one way commute to work. Can someone tell me why we would want to stimulate the growth of the deer population when around these parts, I am guessing they are starving to death due to the numbers.

    And please keep the rude comments to a minimum. I really am confused. Please educate, don’t annihilate me!

  • Anonymous

    Glenn Manuel back in 1973 discovered the first coyote at Spencer Bay in Maine, he was so very proud that his project of introducing coyote to Maine was taking hold.. as to the history of hunting with Dad and family It was a 32 cal rifle. It was great times.. My brother use to Guide Glenn Manuel back in the day when he was writing.

  • Anonymous

    Saving deer by destroying and polluting their environment?

    That’s a new approach

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. We need to waive deer hunting up here for a couple of years. This winter, in the county, should have been a fairly easy winter for them. However, they need alot more time to recoup.

  • Anonymous

    So let me get this straight…they want to increase the deer population so there are more of them to kill? Quite a society we live in….the very famous Gandi said it best…”you can judge a society best by the way they treat their animals.” They are living, breathing, feeling, emotional beings. I am a scientist and a psychologist so this is not just a fluffy statement, but based on valid and reliable research. Inflicting pain and death just for the sport of it is sickening and says a lot about the person engaged in or justifying such behavior.

  • Anonymous

    Me too! I’ve seen more coyotes in the past year than I’ve seen in my entire life of living here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWMNF7GR3WST4PKULJEHIC5MKA R

    you said it all with downeast, in north maine the deer herd has drop consideradly in the last couple of years. ( I know many will disagree I have seen it.) Not say its caused but it semed to start when they cut the sides of the highway a lot of them got killed off that way , ( car accidents)plus the hard winter we had that year I believe that was the start cause it semes that they have dwelled off starting with that.I’m no expert but if I can tell that something is happening I would beleive their is. Their is no one thing that is ultimatly responsible their is a lot of facts involved.

  • Anonymous

    My research of this post proves that a scientist/psychologist can be…totally ignorant.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWMNF7GR3WST4PKULJEHIC5MKA R

    I agree …. You want to know what else would help lets say $ million dollar fine when that logging company gos after that stand of tree it was told not to cut but dose because the money they stand to make is greater then the fine they will pay…

  • Anonymous

    doesn’t cutting back around the highways cause fewer crashes? I’d think you’d be less likely to hit them if you can see them coming. I’m probably missing something.

  • Anonymous

    Which part don’t you agree with? That animals breath, feel pain, and experience emotions such as fear? Or that killing for fun isn’t sickening? When you have a 15 year college education based in science and can bring valid “research” stating otherwise, please let me know. Again, I defer to my closing comment. Idid not personally attack anyone….and like everyone else have a right to my opinion. It says a lot about your personality that you feel the need to take it there. Please don’t think that I’m going to engage in a back and forth with you. I will not be reading the posts any futher. I said what I wanted to and will leave it at that. I refuse to join you at your level. Have a most pleasant day.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWMNF7GR3WST4PKULJEHIC5MKA R

    I respected everyone’s comment because they have the right to but did you read the story………
    about the 11th paragraph down

    In November, voters approved $6.5 million in bonds for LMF programs that target forests and wildlife habitat.

    so if you are going to call the idiocy of our governor then you should call all the people of Maine how voted for the same ….. just saying…..

  • Anonymous

    Personally I eat them. Has nothing to do with sport. Venison is very lean. It makes a great stew and I also make mincemeat for pie.

  • Anonymous

    “Deer hunting and viewing represent at least $200 million a year in Maine’s economy”. sounds more like folks hanging onto federal and state funds to protect their jobs. washington and aroostook counties were reported to have been the hardest hit inthe last couple of years, yet 100,000 was approved for counting deer from a helicopter in central maine. scuse me? maybe live trap deer in problem areas and relocate them. Hundred grand might be petter put to use that way. Anything but counting in an obviously populated area.

  • Anonymous

    K-9′s don’t have retractable claws and their front to pad impressions are generally aligned. Your right about bobcat tracks being easily confused, however size is a fairly good indicator. I am not a “professional” tracker but know what I see, I spend plenty of time out there bub and see all kinds of tracks.

    when you here from the biologists they are relatively unconcerned about the lynx situation, other than the fact that their protection inhibits snaring control of the coyote. According to a recent speeker i heard the lynx population has never been huge here and has remained relatively stable throughout the land management changes in maine. So why are we so concerned. The deer and coyote populations are the ones seeing a huge swing, so why don’t we deal with them?

  • Anonymous

    I had the same thought, but only in conjunction with protecting their habitat like LePage is proposing.

  • Anonymous

    ???

  • Anonymous

    for sure. He has a good idea there, but it seems like limiting hunting for a few years in the low districts would help correct the problem faster.

  • Anonymous

    Mainers!!! You really need to get LePage out of Office ASAP!!

  • Anonymous

    “Disqus” writes:

  • Mungo Munro

    The first thing you do when dealing with a complicated problem is ignore anything that BS artist Lepage says.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    After 50 years of shooting, mismanaging, selling all animal flesh for a quick buck the geniuses of “The Maine Woods” figure out that there is a serious wildlife management crisis! Talk about “Slow on the Uptake”, this one should rate a mega”DDDUUUUUHHHHHH!!!”

  • Anonymous

    Amy, sorry you’re offended….although you have offended millions who understand how wildlife management works. It’s in the field of wildlife management that you are….totally ignorant. I should have been more clear.

  • Anonymous

    I realize that revenue is vital to the state’s economy as well, but if we are having these population problems, maybe out-of-state hunters shouldn’t be allowed either.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWMNF7GR3WST4PKULJEHIC5MKA R

    yes now that it has been done but they did it in winter and the deer that winter near the highway that year which are hundreds of them got sloted because of the car deer accident because thier was a lot of feed near the highway

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWMNF7GR3WST4PKULJEHIC5MKA R

    its also better then that drug up beef we by now….. you are right…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWMNF7GR3WST4PKULJEHIC5MKA R

    still don’t get.

  • Anonymous

    ‘ “The whole issue is around the Canadian lynx and I keep telling them that, remember, it is Canadian lynx and we live in Maine,” LePage said with a smile. ‘

    Another vintage LePage quote in the lexicon of many such bon mots. Yeah, I know said humorously (we can only hope), but still typical. Maybe he has a future in another occupation.

  • Anonymous

    Hares are not rabbits.

  • Anonymous

    Trolling out of state papers is not a conservative trait is it? Or is it?

  • Anonymous

    Years ago, growing up as a kid there was a bounty on coyotes.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s ridiculous that my comment was removed because it was critical of hunting practices. I haven’t seen the BDN behave this poorly since the election. Very disappointing.

  • http://twitter.com/mstevens79 Michael

    “15 year college education”? ouch. I will try very hard to not make any jokes.

  • Anonymous

    haha I hardly doubt they are starving. I’d like to know what section of downeast you live because in my area of downeast they are pretty darned few and far between.

  • Anonymous

    This article isn’t about anti-hunting, why would you care to post to begin with. That’s why it was removed. Not disappointing at all, I hope they continue to remove comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the issue.

  • Anonymous

    Hunting is a sport that many of us enjoy.

  • Anonymous

    I hear the darned things every night howling. They get closer and closer with time too. Something has to be done about them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TI5UWLUIOYIE7SRNXNB34EMA5M Troy

    if the state were to give out any deer permits to thoes who have shot five or more coyotes they would have to give out more then they have in the lottery if you listen to anyone in northern penobscot and aroostook county

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TI5UWLUIOYIE7SRNXNB34EMA5M Troy

    Do coyotes read the news and decide to have more pups? Are they psychic? How do they “know” to have more pups per litter if the hunting is increased? How do you know this for a fact, northernson??

  • Anonymous

    You are wrong. It was removed because a couple of NRA hot-heads clicked flag because they didn’t like what they were reading. There was nothing inappropriate about the content of my post and I’d be interested to hear the moderator explain why its gone.

  • Anonymous

    “Isn’t LePage a French Canadian?,” I say with a smile.

  • Anonymous

    From Topsfield to Machias along Route 1, Rte 191 from Calais to Machias, or out onto Route 9 toward Wesley. If you travel any of those Routes you are more likely to see a small herd (rarely just one this time of year) than not. Rte 190 into Eastport – they are everywhere!

  • Anonymous

    when the deer have guns, we will approach “sport”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1473642850 Andrew Perkins

    Le’Page knows as much about managing a deer herd as I do about managing a mardens, which is a big fat “0″.

  • Anonymous

    You are delusional. His only plan is to eat every deer he can. And the use of “inspirational” in the same post with his name is gounds for flogging.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QT7MDJD2WH27HODCAKFQNDVQBM Ryan Soucie

    Hey now, how do you know Bonny was paid to post here by a republican anything? Chances are that being from that close to OLD Mexico that Bonny is just sending her money home to her familia. We all know that no republican would ever support that or welfare. Unless it was for the rich.

  • Anonymous

    So much mis-information has been distibuted by animal rights extremists that the general public now considers them facts. Many recent studies have shown the additive losses involving predators concerning deer herd growth. Ever hear of google? You just have to wade through the flooding by the anti- groups to find the real studies.
    Maines IF&W seems intent on managing our wildlife through their perceived “social acceptence” I do not know how they have reached the social acceptence level, I translate this as fear of lawsuits from a very organized and vocal minority. Perhaps a survey of the 15% of maines population that buys hunting permits is in order. perhaps our larger news sources such as BDN should publish photos of deer being eaten alive by coyotes along with those of accidently trapped Lynx. I’d be happy to supply a few deer photos.. perhaps the State should encourage the growth of a $ 200 million industry that is located in some of the most economicaly challenged areas of our state. A “green” one at that. But wait, maybe turning every press release into a democrat/republican fued will accomlish economic recovery in Maine

  • Anonymous

    Hunting, as I said, IS a sport. And it’s not likely to disappear, as hard as you anti hunters would like to see it . You need to go watch some more Bambi, I’ll furnish the tissues.

  • Anonymous

    I’m wondering if its not because of calling the Gov, Penguin, I saw another removed for calling him Bizzarro. I thought both where actuate. It’s ashame we can’t accompany posts with music, Dueling Banjos would be a good choice in this case.

  • Anonymous

    Puhlease! Eight deer stood together and got mauled by coyotes? Or did they drag the carcasses back together. Did these same woodcutters tell you about the little green men who are abducting our deer too? Do you believe everything they tell you?

  • Anonymous

    Actually there have been studies that prove this. If you spent more time reading instead of wondering if coyotes can read, you could have learned this instead of posting a snarky answer that shows you don’t read much more than a coyote.
    I’ll help you. Google ‘increase coyote litter size’ , then choose the davidson u site.

    LePage says the state is open for business. The business of the deer country is cutting wood. Anybody else see a contradiction there? He will make it easier to cut the forest, and still make it easier for the deer to make it through the winter?

  • Anonymous

    I’m convinced. He has shown me the light. Where can I get my head replaced with a bobble head that will nod when the wind from LePage activates it?

  • Anonymous

    That’s so right. Killing deer does not stop them from reproducing.

  • Anonymous

    Personally, I saw the decline of deer in Aroostook when “they” (Irving et al) started “managing” the forest. This meant spraying the regenerating woods with an herbicide (I remember the smell of 2,4 D when I went fishing) to kill the broadleaf trees. This leaves the spruce and fir, but prevents the maple and beech from growing. Deer feed on the maple buds in the winter. No buds, fewer deer. But, the stands of fir and spruce are more. Of course, this also means that when the sprucebud worms show up, they’ll have a bigger banquet to feed on.

  • Diogenes

    Saw it happen frequently. Only difference is that they don’t hang the deer outside when it’s out of season. Go look in the garage.

  • Anonymous

    one can hunt coyote 12 months of the year in maine. I do like the bounty idea. I would love to see sunday hunting if only for coyote and small game. Possibly more hunters would get in on the coyote hunt.

  • Anonymous

    coyote litters are determined by the amount of available feed and the number of coyotes in the feeding area. A real problem with wiping out the coyote. If there are 7 coyote in a pack and you successfully hunt 3 of them, then the feed increases and the remaining 4 have a healthier life. Healthier females bear more young.

  • Anonymous

    Yes I do believe them. They are family.

  • Anonymous

    Coyotes kill way more deer than hunters. So many more that the deer harvested by hunters is hardly in the equation. And bear, and bobcat, and…….

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