Municipal clerks around the state are scheduled to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples next month. Those who prefer to have a religious rather than civil ceremony will find a welcome mat outside many, but not all, churches in Maine.
The referendum, which passed Nov. 6 with the support of 53 percent of Maine voters, exempts clergy from having to perform ceremonies if gay marriage is against their religious beliefs.
Ministers whose denominations allow gay marriage expect to be busy in 2013.
The Rev. Mark Doty, pastor of Hammond Street Congregational Church, United Church of Christ in Bangor, has three weddings on his schedule.
So far, just one couple has set a date, he said last week.
“Because I’m openly gay, I’ve looked forward to a time when people who are gay or lesbian could be married in our sanctuary,” Doty, who has been at the church since 2001, said last week. “I presume we will use the vows we would normally use and just change the pronouns.”
The minister said he expected to perform between eight and 10 weddings next year for same-sex couples.
“This congregation was very invested in the outcome of the election,” he said. “Lots of folks volunteered for the ‘Yes on One’ campaign so we are absolutely thrilled to be able to finally have weddings here.”
The Rev. Michael Gray, pastor of the Old Orchard Beach United Methodist Church, was one of the most visible Maine clergy members in support of the referendum.
Gray, 40, spoke at press conferences, rallies and religious services. He celebrated with more than 1,000 people, some of whom do not share his belief in God, at a Portland hotel on election night.
The part-time minister and full-time banker has been asked to marry a lesbian couple this summer who attend his church. Gray is not sure if his denomination, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman, will allow him to perform the ceremony in the church, even though his congregation joined a coalition supporting the referendum.
“I never once said — and I’m not now saying — that I’m going to marry same-sex couples in the church as a United Methodist pastor,” Gray said Saturday in a telephone interview. “What I said was that civil marriage should be legal in Maine for same-sex couples.”
The minister, as a notary public, a requirement for his banking job, is able to perform civil marriages but he would rather be able to provide a religious ceremony for couples who want one.
Gray and 200 other United Methodist ministers in New England are out of step with their denomination. They formed a chapter of the Methodist Federation for Social Action based in Washington, D.C., and signed a statement supporting gay marriage.
“We joyfully affirm that we will offer the grace of the church’s blessing to any prepared couple desiring Christian marriage,” the statement reads. “We are convinced by the witness of others and are compelled by spirit and conscience to act.”
Gray said New England and the Northwest are more progressive on the issue of same-sex marriage than are United Methodists in the rest of the country.
“Eventually that will change,” he said.
The minister said he did not expect the gay marriage issue to split his denomination as it appears to have the Anglican Communion, of which the Episcopal Church is a part. Earlier this month, the Diocese of South Carolina voted to leave the Episcopal Church after the larger body’s national convention approved vows for same-sex couples this summer.
Christian churches are not the only sects ready to marry same-sex couples.
“Inclusion and respect for homosexual rights is the most important civil rights issue of this generation,” Rabbi Justin Goldstein of Beth Israel synagogue in Bangor said recently. “The Torah instructs us to treat all human beings with dignity and respect. Freedom awarded to some must be awarded to all.”
Denominations that allow the blessing of same-sex unions include the Unitarian Universalist Association Congregations, the United Church of Christ and the Episcopal Church. The Reform and Conservative Jewish Movements also allow same-sex marriages to be conducted in their synagogues.
Other denominations, including the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, allow regional synods to make the decision. American Baptists, the Presbyterian USA Church and the United Methodist Church continue to wrestle with the issue. Each denomination has clergy and lay members working to change the definition of marriage from a man and a woman to two people.
The Roman Catholic Church, the South Baptist Convention along with Orthodox Jews, Pentecostal denominations and independent Evangelical churches oppose same-sex marriage.



Next up? As soon as some of these close-minded dumbafental outfits see that there’s money to be made, they’ll have a change of “heart.”
You took the words right out of my mouth!
I hope you know she meant those fundamentalists and their hypocrisy. That , in her view, they will change their tune about marrying gay couples if they can make a lot of money .
mainegal17 supports gay marriage and equality. I cannot tell from your comments what you are trying to say one way or the other.
Not very likely, for those like the UCC they know what the Word says. We all are judged on what we do, and that includes voting. One said it was a civil issue, but his or her vote is one of His leadingm. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing.
Nice to see some churches or at least their leaders finally stepping up to the plate and truly doing what a church should do, spread love, not hate.
yea, beware of false prophets. The Lord is the Judge.
Not everyone follows your religion. As an atheist I follow none.
Are you liberal, conservative, or born again atheist. [Grin] I have known all kinds. One of the silliest charges against atheists was that they worship themselves. I tried to explain that they have no need to worship anything.
Then why have you been so presumptious, to judge for Him?
I am aware of false prophets. Those who go after homosexuals yet marry divorced people. Those who beat their sons yet scream against abortion even in the case of rape. Jesus said any man who divoces his wife and marries another is an adulterer but the church will marry divorced people day after day. People scream about homosexuality because they need to feel holier than thou. You sir are a false prophet and I am very aware of you. God bless I prayed for you today.
Bruce, indeed and you are not the Lord.
Judge not…
Bible amnesia appears to be rampant…
Hurry, get married.
If they want another vote then make their sanctity of marriage stuff work for the equal rights side. They’ll have to say what to do about those already legally married in their petition.
: }
look up the laws, once it is voted in they won’t be able to bring it to popular vote again – no turning back now
I am so relieved and happy for my dear friends that they finally have the same rights to wed that I have. This is simply a civil rights issue, a human equality issue.
It gets tiresome say this is a civil issue, that was just and excuse to get it passed, same with the equality issue. What’s next multiple spouses.
Nope. Haven’t learned yet that the bigamy non-issue doesn’t cut it.
Well, I WAS hoping that this meant that soon I will be able to marry my female AND male cats….
ok, how how bout the issue of beasality
It gets tiresome that you cling to your rhetoric in a misguided attempt to keep Mainers from having equal civil rights.
not when it is the truth
Well, admitting you are against the civil rights of other Mainers is a start, at least.
Truthfully, your opposition is unamerican and unchristian… May you come to realize that one day, and open your heart to see we mean you no harm, we simply seek equal treatment by our government.
What an enlightened comment! /sarcasm
And you’re not even embarrassed about it, are you?
Dolls…..
The unending attempts to portray gay PEOPLE as somehow not human (comparing us to “dolls”, etc.) does NOT help your cause.
No you are just leading the creation of more unnecessary causes.
gay are people like anyone else,
Why NOT multiple spouses? Polygamy is the norm in the Bible.
;{O)
Multiple spouses have existed in this country for a very long time. I know of a number of people who have multiple spouses. It works for some, not for others.
Here or in Utah/Arizona?
are they all married legally.
Not at this time, but they live as married people and even raise families. Families have always come in many forms over history. None of the forms have worked for everyone.
Marriage licenses are a legal matter, not a religious matter. No matter what religion that you belong to, you are not married unless you have a marriage license and this has been true since Roman times in Christian countries.It was a matter of transferring property, the woman and her dowery. Only in very recent times has to women been able to own herself and have any say so in her children’s lives. In the 1800s a man could divorce the woman and keep the children and any property that the woman had brought into the marriage. They legally only belonged to the man. The woman had no legal rights whatsoever. That was one reasons for the women’s suffrage movement, fighting for equal rights.
you can not separate youre religious beliefs from your civil beliefs’s
Jesus warned us about people like these pretending to be His followers…..
Right ! Let’s make believe that we all came from the same tree,,,, a fruit tree !
Doesn’t matter — this is America. You don’t get to decide for others what their religion means. Go to one of those theocracies in the middle east if you want that sort of thing ;)
Edit: And he corrected it.
Yes, people like the phony Bob Carlson.
Do you have proof that like Carlson the religious leaders above never went to or completed seminary?
I’m sure they did went to seminary, graduated, and are ordained.
And he also warned us about Phariseeic Christians like you.
Yes, I remember Jesus commanding us to love one another and not judge. He is surely not blessing those who would stand against His chidren seeking to protect their blessings with civil marriage.
How do you know he wasnt talking about you? God bless I prayed for you.
:)
How do you think aids started ??
Among heterosexuals with a virus migrated from animals, correct?
How is that even relevant to the discussion of marriage?
By people eating monkey meat. Also remember worldwide the vast majority of AIDs sufferers are Heterosexual.
Sometime in the future we will all have the opportunity to explain to God how our “rights” overrule His will. As for me, I don’t believe He has changed His mind about anything.
Nah…
And which god would that be? There are thousands of these so called god’s.
Who’s word? Man’s ideas that have been translated over and over for 3000+ years? Or the word from the god that didn’t say a word about it but who’s temples supported themselves by having temple prostitutes of both sexes? Maybe it’s the pharaonic gods, or the christian popes and kings that encouraged inbreeding? Hey, they believed too…
I don’t think God has changed his mind either– He has condemned rape and victimization, not love.
One day you will have the opportunity to explain why you felt you should ignore the spirit of the Gospel, for you have decided to judge others despite Jesus’ advice not to.
You’d think, by definition, that God would already understand why the majority of people support this. Do you really believe in a God that needs us to explain things to Him/Her? I don’t see much use for a God like that – I’d prefer to be lorded over by someone more, errr, informed.
Well your God should have dug himself up a few more votes then huh?
Your god is not mine. Keep it to yourself.
What’s up with all the fear mongering?
Have you nothing to add to the discussion without fear?
I’m pretty sure the ‘explanation’ is that we did to others what we would have done unto ourselves. This is “the sum of the laws and the prophets”, after all, so it’s a very good explanation.
haha, God gives us free will then Slaughters everyone for not acting the way he wants.
YUK!!……………….
Please explain… if you don’t like it, why do you subject yourself to it?
That is the big question….you’re right. What is their continuing interest ! But when you read some of their ignorant , nasty comments….well, it tells you something about them, doesn’t it.
If any
one teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our
Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching which accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit, he knows nothing; he has a morbid
craving for controversy and for disputes about words, which produce
envy, dissension, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among men who are depraved in mind and bereft of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. – 1 Timothy 6:3-5
This sounds like it was written against all who would twist the spirit of the Gospel to support condemnation of homosexuality. Glad you are seeing that gay marriage is the right thing to offer here!
I think you figured me very wrongly on this one. I’d like to see how these men and women of the cloth are going to explain their defense of gay marriage to Jesus Christ when they meet him, right after they die.
Aren’t there teachings in the New Testament about those without sin casting the first stone and judgement being reserved for God?
So why are you casting stones and judging if you aren’t God?
They will surely stand with humility that they have upheld Jesus’ most important commandment, that we should love one another.
How will you justify your judgemental distain for God’s children?
Tell us, oh holy one, what you, yourself, will do when you meet Him and discover that He, Himself, is gay.
Actually, being God he is sexless/genderless.
I think they’ll say, “What I did to the least of these, I did to You. And, I stood up for them, and I treated them as I would want to be treated, just as You commanded.”
No purgatory? No limbo?
Can you please show exactly where in the Bible it takes that homosexuality is stated as a sin – I want to see the exact words! Jesus spoke of loving one another and treating others as equals. Jesus was just a man with an illusion or psychosis about a higher power telling us how we need to base our lives. Many since have tried to walk in the same shoes as Jesus and it didn’t turn out so well for them. Remember Jamestown?
I’ll ‘see’ your Timothy 6:3-5 and ‘raise’ you a Sally 19: 4-6, an Irving 7:11-12, AND a Tosh.0.
America is NOT a theocracy. (Thank Zeus.)
That was funny as all get out. Thank you.
Good one!! I’ll follow Tosh.0 scripture anyday, lol!
Homosexual acts are sin!
So why did your god create 1500 known species that partake in homosexual acts?
I think BP wants to be one of them but keeps denying himself. That’s why he’s so obnoxious.
No, there is nothing sinful about love and commitment. You are confused.
As usual, BP, you’re out of touch. I’m sure you meant to say, “Homosexual acts are in.”
Lions, tigers, and bears … oh my! a line from another famous fairy tale …
According to you and your mythology… big deal.
And yet some faiths disagree.
Isn’t freedom of religious belief – for ALL people – a WONDERFUL thing?
Isn’t this just wonderful: the heretics are coming out of the woodwork.
‘If God does not exist, everything is permitted!’
A Stern warning implied, Ivan Karamazov.
‘Who greets the Grand Inquisitor taunting…?’
You haven’t been in hiding, I would hardly call your heresay as having come out of the woodwork.
A state issuing a marriage license is not subject to religious law or doctrine,
Nor should it ever be.
Eager to defy their own religious teachings.
I agree. How does accepting gay marriage fit in with the teachings of the Church?
Love one another, help those less fortunate in society, and don’t judge…. gay marriage fits in there just fine.
WHICH Church?
MINE is fine with it.
Or don’t YOU believe in freedom of religion – for OTHER PEOPLE – either?
“The Church” is hardly of one accord on the matter.
Why would any gay person want to get a “christian” marriage anyway? They are full of hate and disdain toward gay people. Yes, some churches are more progressive but I lost my faith in people years ago and the church is made up of these people. I disavowed my Catholicism 3 years ago (in a letter to the Portland diocese) due to them being behind the referendum overturning what the Maine Legislature did. And do you think I ever got a response from them? HELL NO!
denounced would have been a better word then disavowed :)
I pray that you will one day see the true light of the teachings of the Catholic Church (left to us by Jesus and the apostles), and that you will repent of the serious choice which you have made. No man has the right to trump what God has commanded us to believe. For the Catholic Church not to fight against gay marriage would have been a grave, sinful dereliction of duty, and a total insult to the sufferings which Jesus Christ endured in order to redeem our souls from eternal condemnation and suffering. I’d highly recommend to you to learn the truth about the faith you have denounced. There are thousands of sources to choose from. http://www.catholic.com would be a good place to start.
*YAWN*
You should take your own advice, and open your heart to the spirit of the Gospel. Then perhaps you will see that opposing the equal treatment of others is what is immoral.
Gay marriage does not go against the teachings of Jesus. God blesses love, He does not condemn those who would commit toward one another in support and faith.
Oh, well. What’s a royal ball? After all, I suppose it would be frightfully dull, and-and-and boring, and-and completely… Completely wonderful. -Cinderella
now that’s the truth!
Honey, we ain’t all Catholics.
Or, don’t you actually believe in freedom of religion – for OTHER people?
I disagree with you on the marriage topic, but I also wrote a letter to the Catholic diocese about the demolition of our local Church.
I offered suggestions, and even $ if they did not tear it down. I got no response. They have lost me and my money years ago when this happened.
There are plenty of wonderful Christians out there. There is nothing anti-gay about the Christian faith.
Some people in power use their Christianity as an excuse to act immorally against other Americans, but that reflects poorly on their own character, not Christianity.
And that is exactly the reason why this hetero married woman and her husband left, Buddy. The Catholic church of my youth was all-loving and accepting. When I tried to go back, I found a snake pit of hatred toward homosexuals. I left and never looked back.
Luckily, my faith survived and I hope yours comes back.
Another homophobic race to the bottom. Who will arrive first, the self-righteous, or the stupid ?
What about yourself?????????????????????
It’ll be a tie, since they’re joined at the hip.
;{O)
God says different things to different people. This shows why we don’t want to give the Pope’s word the power of law . . .
and what God is telling them is always exactly what they want to happen.
I am sick and tired of the Media doing these daily news stories to try and brainwash people to think that this is normal.
I love all people, but marriage in a traditional Church is not going to happen.
If it does they will loose members.
All you Libs out there calm down, I am just stating my opinion.
If you’ll read this article, you’ll see that marriage in a traditional Church is indeed going to happen. Many churches in Maine have held same-sex marriage ceremonies for decades. Soon, those weddings will be reinforced with the very real civil marriage license that we have fought so hard to obtain.
And that is a good thing, both for religious freedom and for our Constitutional rights.
The Congregational Church is not traditional, the Methodist Church they talk about is banished from the National Church, Episcopal Church fell apart in the late 90’s because of Gay marriage, the Lutheran Church ALCA has lost many members to other branches of the Lutheran Church.
What you think are traditional Christian Churches are not. You have to know what you are talking about to make statements like that.
Ahh yes, the inevitable “this isn’t a real church if it doesn’t condemn the same people I condemn.” argument.
Religious freedom is present in our nation for this very reason— there will ALWAYS be points you disagree with in how another congregation worships God.
Oh, all this in-fighting and strife is so much fun!!!
The Quakers are not “traditional”??? Not “Christian”???
WHO KNEW?
The solution is simple.
Don’t read them… don’t comment on them.
Go away.
You’ll have no more problems.
Pure unadulterated common sense Tedlick. I guess that’s why people like plyydog (?) and Bill Peters just don’t get it.
Get used to the new (normal) in Maine.We were victims of our own small voting block in Maine.This made our great State an easy target for this attack on society.
It’s an attack on no one… you’re a tiny little man who suffers from paranoid delusions.
Treating ALL citizens equally before the law – as the Constitution promises – is hardly an “attack”. On anyone.
Then , stay away from those articles! Simple solution. And, if you have your right to marry, then that is all that matters, right? !!!
Being gay is perfectly normal – for gay people.
Your statement, “marriage in a traditional Church is not going to happen” is typed in the wrong tense. Many Christian churches have been performing same-gender marriages for over 8 years already. (Even the Quakers!) As have many Jewish synagogues/rabbies/congregations. DO catch up.
And, they haven’t “loose[d]” members. They’ve taken a stance for liberty and justice for ALL people – and that attracts members of good faith.
You’re entitled to your opinion. Just prepare not to be believed.
If you marry gay people in your Church, your Church is NOT Traditional.
In this case, who needs tradition when tradition has been proven wrong time after time.
According to you?
BWA HA HA HA HAAAAAA!
generally, married people aren’t “loose” –
good one.
Bravo: I was waiting to see how long it would take for one of you SMART LIBS. to point out the spelling error.
What would we do without all you smart people to tell us when we make a mistake!
glad I could help!
– signed
Smart Lib.
You do realize you can edit your post to correct spelling errors, don’t you?
Don we now our gay apparel,
Fa la la, la la la, la la la.
Only gays can tell that one.
Well now that the college students have forced Maine natives to accept this mess.The attack on churches begin.
You should actually read this article— these churches have long accepted gay and lesbian Christians, and have wanted to marry their congregation members for some time.
This is not an attack on churches, this is an affirmation that they have the freedom to marry!
And not just “gay and lesbian CHRISTIANS”, considering the story refers to “rabbis” too.
If that’s what makes you feel good and sleep better at night, blame it all on the college students.
With the sharp decline in Maine morality .Locking my doors helps me sleep at night.
Sounds like wishful thinking on your part.
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The last election shows what happens when Dems swapped meds for votes back in the 70’s
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no straws just facts.
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Actually it was George W Bush who was responsible for the Medicare Part D entitlement program which provided prescription medication coverage for Americans. Oddly enough, all these folks up in arms about deficits and taxes were silent over that expansion of Government spending…
R-i-i-i-g-h-t. (Not.)
So an election in 2012 “shows what happens” 42 years ago.
You are NOT believed.
This is the kind of cow manure their psycho pastors feed them, Phos. It’s the old “garbage in, garbage out.”
disinformation!
Are you really that thin-skinned!? No one is attacking churches. These people have risen above you and your prejudices and YOU attack THEM.
How so? Those “churches” that do not agree with “Liberty and justice for ALL” are STILL perfectly free not to marry ANY couple against its tenets.
Lyin’ fer Jayzus does NOT help your ’cause’.
Oh, so it’s the college students who are behind it all, eh? How about you give some serious thought to completing your own education and discovering the real world, instead of the ill-informed one your pastor has carved out for you?
I thought this issue was put to rest on election day. I thought wrong.
It was… now’s the time for celebration!
It was put to rest— soon these members of Christian and Jewish clergy will be able to marry members of their congregation, when previously civil marriage was denied them!
You thought correctly. It’s only anti-equality religionists that wish/seek to perpetuate the injustice.
Sure it is.
No we will not force churches to marry. Riiiiiiight. That did not take long
Please, point to anyone in this article whose church is being forced to do anything.
November 6, 2012: the date these lies stopped working.
You didn’t read it did you? So pathetic.
These churches chose to. Nobody made them you paranoid little man.
The pathetic part is the people that have been blindly led by their short hairs by the democratic party since the seventy’s.You know the ones who’s lives have been thrown away by enabling them to be a voting block instead of helping them to fit in society.Now we have this same party brainwashing our children into it is OK for them to want to (dismember) themselves instead of trying to get help.Pathetic is not realizing the true meaning behind this piece of propoganda.
The pathetic part is your idea that they need help at all. You not liking them doesn't mean they need any form of help. We are tax-paying, law-abiding citizens… No different than you. And we aren't going anywhere.
And, by the way, I don't vote democrat. Never have.
No one is being forced to do anything. You screech about immorality and then you run around here actively lying — you’re the immoral one.
And you wonder why you get labelled “Delusional”.
Re-read the article. It does not say what you said. Bearing false witness is a ‘seeyun’. Stop it.
I see some lavish weddings in the future. It will definitely make money for a lot of people, ministers, formal clothes suppliers, flower shops, decorators, limousine companies, hotels, photographers, and those that provide the food.
Reading all this religious blather makes me understand why I have none of it — breeding hatred, bigotry and idiocy all in the name of some “being” which simply does not exist. You have to be taught to hate — thankfully, some churches do not, many others do. Read all these comments and see where the hate is proven!
sounds like quite a bit of hatred on your own.
Yes, I agree. Why not focus on the many churches that don’t hate and that are accepting? Why put down ALL churches (which he does when he says God does not exist)?
“Gray and 200 other United Methodist ministers in New England are out of step with their denomination. They formed a chapter of the Methodist Federation for Social Action based in Washington, D.C., and signed a statement supporting gay marriage.”
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The BDN once again falls short of investigative substantiation. Only two ministers were mentioned. How many of these ministers are from Maine as a subset of the larger New England area, who are they and in which specific Methodist churches do they pastor?
If the theology which they are “out of step with” only recognizes one man / one woman marriages why do they presume to speak for the majority of ministers who hold to their denomination’s theology? Is the “Methodist” Federation for Social Action capable of enough tolerance to respect the theology it transparently is attempting to discredit?
The answer to this rhetorical question is evident as comments on this very thread are full of hatred.
It’s nice to see there are those who understand the Bible: as mentioned in “SAINT PAUL’S JOKE” (2012, Amazon) there is no prohibition against gay marriage in a book that existed at a time when even Caesar married a male. It is explicit in it’s prohibition against male (but not female) bi-sexuality. There are numerous places where the Abrahamic religion is specific in its prohibitions — most who are anti-gay marriage are participate, and promoted, those prohibited behaviors.
“SAINT PAUL’S JOKE” — they use the scriptures to justify what the scriptures prohibit. Three cheers for the Ministers and Rabbis who know how to read and understand…. those who display “Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding.”
SHAME ON YOU~BANGOR DAILY NEWS~MAKING GAY MARRYING~FRONT PAGE NEWS~~SHAME ON YOU!!
ROFLOL!!! Then why did you fall for it?
Sucker!!!
If you don’t like it… don’t come here.
See, there are plenty of us who are very excited about the whole thing… and hope the best for all gay couples!
Why are you reading this paper?
SHAME ON WHO?
She’s reading it ’cause her Enquirer isn’t available.
You sound upset, and I can’t see why. How does the happiness of two people who are getting married affect your life at all?
Oh tsk tsk. Should the BDN put the news in the comics section or just reserve that part for the likes of you?
Those religious and righteous folks have everything to say about same sex civil unions and nothing to say about the prostitution ring article? I see no scripture, no rant about it being a sin. Why only this topic do you make quotes? I have yet to see one of you comment on that subject. I would say it might be safe to state that you are in agreement for prostitution and against the love between two people that just happen to be of the same sex. If you are going to rant and rave and preach us all to death, at least do it on other “moral” issue articles as well.
jkeaton, no one of these “religious” folk commentating here will ever say anything about the prostitution ring because that story involves heteros and, as we all know, heteros can do no wrong. That’s why religious folk will not have anything to say about divorce either. It’s a sad commentary but, to me, it is very true.
You are so right.
has anyone checked these “ministers” credentials, given the history of this community, I would question their educational background.
Um… what “educational background” is necessary to be a “minister”?
Depends. From what I’ve seen anyone can become a self-proclaimed, self-appointed/annointed minister. Remember the ads in the back of old pulp mags where one could send away for a “degree?” Just add lies and there you have it…instant man of the cloth.
In order for a “minister” to get on the front page of the BDN, they apparently need to be a gay marriage supporter. Any real minister who follows the Christian Bible knows better than to support this, but you’ll never see them quoted on the BDN’s front page.
There is nothing “pure” about your logic.
If you base your definition of “pure” on 4,000 years of recorded history, my comment was absolutely correct, in spite of the current wave of lunacy spreading across our country.
Merry Christmas everyone!!
I am in full meltdown according to some posters.
And a Happy Holidays to you too! What is there to be upset about? Mainers did the right thing this month, and have afforded ALL Maine families the ability to protect the lives they build together with civil marriage! It’s a wonderful year to be a Mainer.
Have a nice holiday and you take care! These comment sections are rough.
Pravda was right!