KENNEBUNK, Maine — The Kennebunk Police Department on Monday released a partial list of men summoned on charges of soliciting a woman accused of running a prostitution operation out of a Kennebunk Zumba studio, but the Bangor Daily News has decided not to publish the names because of the lack of identifying information.
The list includes just the first and last names of 21 men accused of paying 29-year-old fitness instructor Alexis Wright for sex.
A Cumberland County Superior Court justice on Monday rejected a request for a temporary restraining order sought by the attorney for two men referred to in court documents by the pseudonyms John Doe No. 1 and John Doe No. 2 to prevent the release of the names of clients issued summons by the Kennebunk Police Department.
Justice Thomas Warren ruled that the addresses of the men should be withheld, but did not specify that other identifying details such as dates of birth or middle names also should be withheld.
Nevertheless, when asked to provide more detailed information about the 21 alleged johns, Kennebunk police Lt. Anthony Burpee stated in an email that the department would not provide ages or states of residency for those charged with engaging in prostitution because “so doing would contribute to ‘identifying’ those who may be alleged victims of invasion of privacy.”
While some of the names appear to be unique, the BDN has chosen not to immediately publish them because the identities of many of the men on the list are unclear. Some of the names match multiple men in the state of Maine. For example, at least 11 men in Maine share the same first and last names of one person on the list.
Warren’s ruling Monday came amid additional legal maneuvering, much of it outside of public view.
Justice Warren made his ruling after a brief telephone conference with the John Does’ attorney, Stephen Schwartz of Portland, and an attorney for the Kennebunk Police Department.
The Kennebunk Police Department had announced it would begin releasing on Oct. 12 the names of people issued summonses for engaging a prostitute. Schwartz first filed an appeal in Biddeford District Court on Friday and was rejected in an effort to block the release of names. An appeal then was filed to the Maine Supreme Judicial Court on Monday. Schwartz filed a motion to withdraw that appeal because of a motion filed in Cumberland County Superior Court.
The Superior Court motion filed by Schwartz also sought to permanently prevent the district attorney’s office from prosecuting clients of Wright. He argued that the amount of harm inflicted on the people would outweigh the necessity to prosecute such a low-level offense.
“The state’s interest in prosecuting the low-level offense of engaging a prostitute is not outweighed by the invasion of privacy that will inure to plaintiffs if the prosecution proceeds,” the motion states.
The lawyer claims his clients have a constitutional right against the invasion of privacy by the publication of names.
“By gratuitously publishing a list of those charged with the minor offense of engaging a prostitute, subjecting them and their families to ridicule and public spectacle throughout the country, defendants are actually facilitating the more serious crime of invasion of privacy that the Legislature meant to proscribe and for which defendants have obtained an indictment against Ms. Wright and Mr. Strong,” the motion stated.
Affidavits filed by the John Does provide a little more information on the two alleged clients. John Doe No. 1 states that he is a disabled person who is a productive member of society with children.
“The nature of the charges against me is so notorious that any indication of involvement with such activities will cause severe and irreparable harm to my reputation as a private citizen, my familial relationships, and my professional reputation and relationships,” stated John Doe No. 1 in his affidavit filed in Cumberland County.
John Doe No. 2 states he has a family including a child and owns a business. He repeated the claim from John Doe No. 1 that the release of his name would cause irreparable harm.
A Superior Court ruling can be appealed to the Maine Supreme Judicial Court.
Charged thus far have been Mark W. Strong Sr., 57, of Thomaston, who has been indicted on 59 counts that include promotion of prostitution, invasion of privacy, and conspiracy; and Alexis Wright, 29, of Wells, who also was indicted earlier this month on 106 counts, including charges of engaging in prostitution, violation of privacy and failure to pay taxes.
Strong’s attorney Daniel Lilley said Monday that the names should be released.
“Let the chips fall where they may,” Lilley said.
“They’ve crucified Mark Strong. They’ve tried him in the media. We should have a fair playing field,” Lilley said.
Lilley said if Strong’s case goes to trial, he certainly will call the alleged clients of Alexis Wright to testify.
Wright ran a Zumba dance studio in Kennebunk where police and prosecutors say she operated a prostitution business and videotaped clients having sex with her without their knowledge.
A quick search on the internet will reveal the names, took all of five minutes.
So sad, query “Maine Zumba List”.
And not a single name rings a bell with me.
Yes!
If a person is charged with ANY CRIME there name is released to the public – no matter if they are guilty or not. There shouldn’t be a double standard for the men who are linked to this case. The Kennebunk Police Department listed the following on their website:
Between October 5, 2012, and October 12, 2012, the Kennebunk Police Department charged the following people with Engaging in Prostitution based on an ongoing investigation. All individuals charged are due to appear in Biddeford District Court on December 5, 2012, at 1pm: Gary Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks, Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore, Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker, Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White, and Peter Wormell.
The nonsense about “invasion of privacy” is a joke. If you want to make that claim, anyone who’s ever gotten charged with a crime could make the same claim. Hopefully the BDN doesn’t remove this list because it would be a violation of my 1st Amendment right.
Why isn’t the Bangor Daily News offering this list???
Pretty simple, the list includes only first and last names, but there are lots of people who share a first and last name with others. Without towns or middle initials, could lead to a lawsuit.
That’s baloney. Most of the names are unique to a single person in Maine (google quickly helps to determine that). There are a couple who have more than one hit, but they are not the majority.
Senator, I served with bologna. I knew bologna. Bologna was a friend of mine. Senator, that is no bologna. (In the spirit of tonight’s debate).
Because of the Maine “invasion of privacy” statute. Where all of the defendants are named as victims of privacy invasion. Anybody, in publishing the identity of those whose privacy has become jeopardized as declared by the court order, becomes party to the privacy issues, and may well be brought about as liable in a civil lawsuit(s) e.g. class action.
Because the BDN has often been known for taking a side to a story and sticking with it rather than reporting unbiasedly. Unfortunately it is the downfall of them.
Downfall? They seem to be doing better than a lot of papers in the state.
DOWNFALL ? HAHAHA GET A CLUE !
You’re absolutely correct. You would never see anything like that on Fox News or MSNBC.
because they only list johns that pertain to eastern maine like in the past. hipocrites big time
No, it’s because the “johns” may be determined to be victims of a crime, namely the surreptitious videotaping that the hot little zumba girl did.
Because the “johns” might also be victims of a crime, further details identifying them (such as age, residence) can not be released at this time.
I hope the BDN does not remove what you have posted but the BDN does remove whatever that they don’t like.
There is a good chance they will remove his post but they can, this is a private web site.
Edit: That didn’t take long and I’m sure other post will get removed as well.
Other papers all over have released the list. just Google it. Maybe someone at the BDN is on the list. :)
Oooooo, wonder if other papers will get sued?? :)
i was just thinking the same thing,well BDN what is it? come clean and you would feel alot better about yourself………NOT…….. ha-ha-ha.
http://kennebunkpolice.org/showStory.php?storyID=20121015
It’s ridiculous that in this information age the BDN would try to engage in censorship, rather than reporting the news.
attorneys, restaurant owners, vice presidents …a 30 second google search is interesting.
From the article: Some of the names match multiple men in the state of Maine. For example, a few of the names on the list could refer to either a father or a son.
Just because you search the name doesn’t mean you are coming up with the correct person.
That’s just an argument for releasing ages – so that father’s or son’s aren’t mistaken for one another. What’s the line – don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time?
In order to satisfy Kevin, I would also add that Google makes it very easy to research names and whittle the list down.
Edit: You just changed your entire post. How nice.
How would I know if I have the right person? I don’t know any of the names on the list, so yes, it would be very confusing for me and that is the reason I have not done a search on any of the names listed so far. I have no clue, at all if I am finding the right person but since you know everyone you know each person you have found on the list is the one that has been charged with a crime.
Good for you. I’m not going to assume as you are.
Why are you so defensive about this list, anyway?
Why did you change your entire comment?
As for your question why should I GIS a name and then just assume I have found the proper person when I have no clue if I have. Before you did edit your post you stated it was very easy to figure out who they are but then you thought twice and changed your post.
Police won’t release ages, towns or even middle initials so how is the BDN supposed to know if it’s that John Doe of Old Town who’s 38 or John Doe of Biddeford who’s 65?
give all info,this will help keep familys together. to much confusion.
I’m pretty sure the families will know when the police come and serve them with their notice to appear or arrest them.
My previous comment was removed inappropriately by the BDN, as it violated none of their requirements for posting, so I’m putting it back up.
What I said is that it is ridiculous, in this information age, for the BDN to try to censor the information that they are including in this article. The list of names is easily accessible:
http://kennebunkpolice.org/showStory.php?storyID=20121015
Exactly! I’m sure the guy living down the street named John Holmes isn’t ACTUALLY John Holmes.
actually, he is John Holmes. However he is not the infamous, well endowed, deceased, porn actor John Holmes.
Damn….
Isn’t it nice when some innocent people can be dragged through the mud if they happen to have the same name of the guilty? Why protect the guilty at the expense of the innocent? I thought our society was above all that, but apparently the scales of Lady Justice tips on such occasions.
Not at all, Name — it’s the scales of Prurient Interest, nothing more or less. I feel sorry for people who have the same name as some of those on the list and are finding themselves pilloried!
“Judge Warren’s decision to release names without address information such as hometown creates confusion and can damage the reputations of innocent individuals with similar names who had nothing to do with the crime,” he said. “We will publish the names only when their identities are clearly revealed and verified.”
Press Herald ^ made the same call, I personally think it’s the right one.
In which they are perfectly within their rights, as it happens, on account of they are not the government and this is not public property. The First Amendment doesn’t spread nearly as thin as people seem to think it does when they complain about Censorship On The Internet.
No, it would not be a violation of your 1st Amendment rights. The 1st Amendment doesn’t apply to the comment section.
The BDN is doing the right thing, relative to preventing domestic violence, by not publishing that list.
How many John Smiths are on the list ?
Seriously, the police are being irresponsible.
They certainly should understand the ramifications of mistaken identity.
They don’t care. The masses want names, so they give them names.
Blame societies ever increasing nosiness.
Police release 21 names in Maine Zumba sex caseSeattle Post Intelligencer – 40 minutes ago
KENNEBUNK, Maine (AP) — Police on Monday released the first round of names of people they say paid for sex with a Zumba fitness instructor… clients of Zumba instructor Alexis Wright, and the delay in releasing their names … the list could include lawyers,
AND law enforcement officers ….
That explains their approach, doesn’t it .
The masses also want gladiators in the ring chopping heads off.
WWIII coming soon…sit tight!
With all the people involved you’d think the police would have figured out what was going on early on. (Stupid) people talk. BDN doesn’t have to list suspects – it’s easy enough to find elsewhere. I respect the decision not to release addresses – blame the ‘Johns’ but I’m sure most families are still in shock. How do you explain this to your kids?
how about the same way you would explain getting busted for being in possession of a useable amount of marijuana?
http://kennebunkpolice.org/showStory.php?storyID=20121015
Does anyone realize that there is an upcoming election where the fate of the nation hangs in the balance. Why on earth is everyone so blood thirsty to see “the list” to humiliate the Johns publicly and perhaps ruin their family lives. The Netherlands, and Nevada seem satisfied by taxing acts between consenting adults.
It is only legal in parts of Nevada, not the entire state. As for ruining a family’s life. Why didn’t the male thing about that part before he sought sex from a prostitute?
I understand the Nevada. The male did put a considerable amount of thought into it before he sought sex with a pro. Scheduling his time, what ATM branch was along the way, etc,etc.
so your saying only the ones promoting prostitution should be humiliated and have their lives ruined? The “johns” committed a crime also and shouldnt be treated any differently than anyone else who does something illegal. Prostitution is illegal in this state and they all knew it. They all knew their as a risk. As far as everyone being bloodthirsty, well people love a scandal. The upcoming election is important but people do need a break from listening to the politcians lie their way to being elected. just my opinion
Why is prostitution illegal?
The only “legitimate” reason prostitution is illegal is because it supposedly promotes trafficking of of underaged girls into countries for prostitution. There is very little proof that making prostitution illegal actually helps to decrease the amount of trafficking happening, but hey, whatever makes people feel like they’re having an effect.
In reality, you can’t stop prostitution. It’s stupid to make it illegal. Having sex with strangers isn’t illegal, paying strangers for a service isn’t illegal, but if you put the two together, all of a sudden you’re in court. In some cases, making prostitution illegal supports trafficking underage girls because they can’t approach law enforcement for help without being booked with a crime themselves. Even if people said they wouldn’t arrest someone for approaching them looking for help, after you’ve been kidnapped and sold for sex, who are you going to trust?
There are many European models of prostitution legalization that have proven effective. Some areas make everything legal. One city gave prostitutes a section of town to work in (much like a parking garage) to work in to keep them off the streets. Some areas make prostituting legal, but purchasing sex illegal. Almost all people arrested for prostitution are the prostitutes, when the johns are just as criminal as them. They miss out on arresting the creeps because they’re busy booking the entrepreneur.
(Fun fact: prostitutes account for 1/3 as many STD transmissions of teenagers, so the health argument doesn’t work either.)
The illegality (and therefore lack of regulation) leads to MORE trafficking.
Personally I think it’s pathetic to have to pay for sex.
It’s beyond pathetic…..if there is such a thing…..
Still trying to figure out what the election has to do with it? Please explain.
maybe he or she believes we we can only focus on one thing at a time?
The election seems to hold more weighty issues than a few “johns”.
The problem isn’t prostitution. The problem is the people who came there being secretly taped. We can’t have our public officials or prominent citizens under threat of extortion or blackmail. Do you get that? It affects the whole area when that happens. In the case of public officials or judges, it affects all of the state. So it is important to get to the bottom of this as soon as possible. I really don’t care what these people do for entertainment.
And what if the girls were consenting minors?( this is more likely the case than not)
How do you feel about our leaders or potential leaders being a” john”?
Why is it okay to pick and choose who we humiliate?
The opperative word in your comment is..”if”, if there were minors involved then show no mercy. Otherwise i fail to see how this is making national news.
BDN did the right thing based upon lack of identification clarity and the Kenebunk PD did the wrong thing. Publishing a list of charged individuals without identification clarity (no age, address) is pointless. In fact, it is the same as publishing either a random list of names not connected to the case or a list of aliases. It does not serve the public interest due solely to lack of clear identification.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/10/15/list-of-maine-zumba-instructors-alleged-prostitution-clients-still-under-wraps/
Here is where to go.
That was a good tip. The article in the BDN should have printed those names that appeared in the Boston news. As the saying goes, You Play You Pay. Those men could easily have brought their wives some nasty diseases. Hope that did not happen.
The ‘Johns’ have humiliated themselves by their illegal choices regarding extra curricular activities- so welcome to personal responsibility in America. Don’t want to ruin your family life? It’s really simple…. follow your marriage vows or the promises you have made to another person-problem solved. Until prostitution becomes legal in this state (which will never happen in this lifetime) it’s just like any other illegal activity that people participate in. If one does not want to be humiliated don’t be stupid and participate in an illegal activity and certainly when you get caught (and odds are you will) don’t p*ss, whine and moan about getting caught.
Again welcome to personal responsibility.
Once the names are released and they are identified their lives are likely ruined. For Tax Payers Sake slap them w/a fine and move on. I take no pleasure in finding out who these people are. It is just a very interesting case that has drawn national attention and may set legal precedents. The families should not have to deal with this crap!
You’re right the families should not have to deal with this crap…but do keep in mind that this ‘crap’ began when these fine fellows paid for sex….which is illegal and then got caught…they brought this ‘crap’ on themselves and their unfortunate families.
So to summarize- if you want to be a selfish cad and have no regard for your family or loved ones- by all means hire a prostitute, but then do not whine, p*ss, moan and groan when you and your family and loved ones are hurt and humiliated when you get caught all due to your own original selfish actions. Personal responsibility and natural consequences always come knocking. Don’t want to be humiliated or ‘ruined’ ? Then don’t pay to play.
Very well said. I couldn’t care less about the men who paid to have sex with this prostitute. I feel sorry for their wives and children (for those who have them). Many families will be destroyed due to the selfish actions of those pigs.
Heeere’s Johnny?
I don’t agree w/the release of the names. It is what it is now & in the long run it may be doing these guys a favor for several reasons. Alexis S. Wright kept
“meticulous records” according to the info available. Much of the personal info rumored to have been dug up by Mark Strong when certain of the guys tried to… ahem, ” interact” anonymously. For what purpose was the detailed info & secret video recording? Not for income tax purposes for sure. They could be paying in cash later or w/a check to the different attorneys & whatever fines to the state now. Always a bright side! Stay Positive Dudes…
I agree. I think that a blackmail scheme was being set up, but they were caught before it could be implemented.
The names should not be released because of the devastation that will be done to the families and friends, what do you think it is going to be like for little Johnny and Susie go to school and all the kids start making fun of them, I say let those men live with there quilt and everyone else start trying to play GOD, GOD will take care of these men in his owe way
Who says all of them are married and have kids in school and how is anyone trying to play your god?
It was suppose to be stop trying to play GOD,
It will be like the Oklahoma Bombing Timothy McVeigh got off easy by being put to sleep, but the good thing is now GOD has him, he will punish them accordingly
Hope there are no skeletons in your family closet … MSW, hmmmmm
Well I do live in southern Maine and my initials are MSW and my wife’s initials are TLM but I can assured you I am not on the list. Why go out to eat hamburger when you have steak at home?
If the Police’s, Court’s and the dominant society’s mythical Jesus were Judge, he’d acquit all of ’em.
Apparently, the so-called christians on the force don’t or won’t see it that way….
And, who voted for this stupid law, anyway? The christians who paid for the sex?
Did you know the scholars are saying “Mary” was only 12 years old when she “immaculantly” conceived and, remember, she didn’t have the opportunity to consent? It was “pre-ordained” by some, mythical, billion year old deity (sp). And this story is “worshipped” as good law! …as “the Word”…
I’ll bet big that most of the “Johns” weren’t married nor did they have children. I’ll bet the men or ladies taking money or “favors” in exchange for “dance lessons” weren’t or don’t either. I’ll bet they were all of “so-called” legal age and consented to whatever sex occurred, if any.
Sex is sex. We’re human. So what.
Vote to change the law, now, get real and get a life.
I think the attorney agree’s with you. Isn’t she giving the camera sort of an inverted flake off with the middle finger?
They ruined their lives the minute they engaged in that behavior………they should be ashamed of themselves and the families they already ruined when they chose to drop their pants!
They have not ruined their lives, they made a mistake but they have not ruined their lives. You are assuming every single male was a family man with children at home and I’m willing to bet, that is not the case.
A lot of married men and women cheat on their spouses, the only difference here is men paid women for sex which has been going on for a very long time.
Will this cause some families pain? Yes, it will but it is not going to ruin a lot of lives.
made a mistake…OMG they made a choice!!!!!!!!! and a risky one at best!!!!
You might be splitting hairs on this one, but I tend to agree with you in this instance. When I think about the word “mistake,” I can easily think of “Oops, I didn’t mean to do that.” Obviously, that word does not apply to this case.
Men slip and fall into lady parts all the time by mistake, didn’t you know that?
Mistake??? How about conscious decision? Don’t make some excuse for them like they were tricked or didn’t have a choice. A public figure should be called out for DUI or extortion, right? The point is, they broke the law, so why should this case be treated any differently?
By definition the word mistake is properly used.
an error in action, calculation, opinion, or judgment caused by poor reasoning, carelessness, insufficient knowledge, etc.
So I’m not making an excuse for them.
Exactly so—although embarassing, I seriously doubt that anybody’s life will be ruined–even though it is a class E crime which normally carries a jail sentance of up to 6 months, the criminal code makes an exception for the offense of engaging a prostitute—fine only, maximum of 1000 dollars and usually its a lot less for the first offense-and that’s assuming those on the “list” will be charged at all–the only way they could get convicted is if Ms. Wright testified that she was paid to have sex with these guys–and so far that ain’t happening–after a few mea culpas and maybe a month sleeping on the couch, life will return to normal for most, if not all, of them. That’s for the married men–the single ones won’t miss a beat.
They used to say that about slavery too…it’s been going on for such a long time…but that’s not an excuse. It’s wrong, so stop trying to justify it.
I’m not.
The two that brought the case to not have their names revealed both had wives and child(ren).
I have seen guys get brought down like this and it actually had the persons life not ruined, but improve much for the rest of their lives. It happens more often then one might think.
You mean like this guy? http://www.newweststrategiesllc.com/principals.html
This is his post-Senate “consulting” firm. He of the wide stance. Some are untouchable, apparently.
Well Maybe (W) love the name BTW..
No I just mean that often times these type of girls have used extortion to blow the whistle before. Many have come down with disease and got out in just the nick of time. Many times these rings are fueled by Cocaine and a dark world of drugs. Getting out of such a dark world would only improve things.
Hmmmm – perhaps we’re kindred spirits? (going by our “stage” names).
I realize it was hard to ascertain my intent, given the wise-guy nature of the subject matter in my post, but I was actually agreeing with your observations.
Thanks for responding.
Get a grip mom…
I don’t take pleasure in knowing their names either but they did commit a crime and hence their names should be released and they should not be slapped with just a fine and be allowed to move on and their families will have to deal with it, if they have one.
Unless, of course, the families want to know whether they should be tested for STDs.
well next time they should keep it in their pants,while the wives are home cleaning,cooking and caring for the children, while mr.big thinks he is getting away with it. you all got caught, now how do you feel? like a #2
Would your reaction be the same if the “clients” had been women, and the prostitutes men?
It would never happen that way. Women would rather spend money on something useful.
LOVE IT!!! hahahaha
the police log publishes the names of anyone else who gets arrested. What makes these johns special?
They didn’t get arrested. Their names appeared on a list in a computer owned by a woman who was arrested for prostitution. That’s not enough to sustain a conviction—the only way they could do that is if Ms. Wright agreed to testify against them
Or they could just look at the video tapes…
lol–that would be a lot more interesting but unless the videos show the “clients” handing over money to her, either just before or just after the really juicy parts, they wouldn’t prove prostitution–only sex on a video tape—if that were illegal both Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian would be locked up. Maybe they could examine her credit card records and put them togather with the dates on the video—assuming some of those pillars of the community were dumb enough to pay by a credit card.
Yes it is time for families to deal with this. Wives have the right to protect themselves from deadly diseases.
I have always kind of laughed that womens names, pics and town were put in papers and on tv and not the Johns, I always looked at that as free advertising for the prostitutes, which the intention was to publically humiliate. Time to share the 15 minutes of fame.
Exactly. It’s also an attempt, in my opinion, of men protecting men from an activity that has been excused/encouraged for so many years. If i’ts illegal, names of both parties involved should be disclosed.
You need a reality check. Men pay for sex all the time. Just indirectly. Period.
That’s a blatantly sexist comment, you do realize that right?
Maybe that’s the only way HE can get a woman. lol.
28 years married to a wonderful woman-and will never divorce me.
Are you telling me that the name “Gold Digger” has never been used in the English language? Directly or indirectly, that’s the way the game of life is played.
I hate that phrase, too.
It’s usually the women that support a lazy bum, thus she’s paying for sex.
Then why is it when a woman supports a man (which society still frowns on) he is called a lazy bum? When a woman stays at home, she is a housewife/homemaker. I can guarantee you that most women that may be supporting a husband are probaly not happy about it.
Usually the lazy bum doesn’t watch the kids or do housework. Hence “lazy bum”. I’m not saying all guys are that way, just the ones I’ve come across in my experiences. If this offends you, I am sorry.
Do you mean marriage? Because it seems to me men set down the rules of marriage.
If you wouldn’t mind please be more specific about these rules because I have never seen any rule book.
When I was a kid there were a lot of mothers in my neighborhood who didn’t know how to drive because their husbands wouldn’t let them as an example
So I was asking you if thats was what you meant, the man goes to work and has to support the woman and by that he’s “paying for you-know-what”
Shame on them for allowing themselves to be controlled, and shame on the men for being so insecure they feel the need to control. Yuck, I wouldn’t give ‘you-know-what’ to any man no matter what opportunity I had if he’s an as*.
Wow. What a wonderful, healthy relationship you must have. Not.
Did I not mention 28 years married? Please read my above comment on this.
The street goes both ways. I know plenty of women who choose to put up with BS from men. Most of those who ‘pay’ have ample opportuntity to get out.
….and to think all these ” groups” think it’s just them that discriminated against. Not a lot has changed for women since the beginning of time. I see my sisters fighting back with a vengence these days, something grandmothers started in the early 1900s. It’s distressing that my brothers think when women want fair treatment they think it means woman want to be treated like men, when it really means women don’t want to be treated badly and theres no reason to treat them badly.
Good ole”boys club
I don’t care who these people are, either. But the prostititutes and the johns both broke the law. And I’m sorry, it’s descrimination that her name and picture is all over the news but the men’s names are being withheld in some lame attempt to protect them from humiliation. Pah-leeze!
That will give her something to write a book about and make millions. Like Monica Lewinskey.
“I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN”
100% agree if shes held accountable they need to be held accountable
yeah but something tells me that the johns aren’t as good looking as Ms. Wright so who wants to see their pictures anyway.
The problem is why withhold names for this crime because it could ruin someone when names are released for all other crimes. OUI, driving crimes, theft, and on and on and on.
Either the law says this is public information all the time or none of the time. I am sure that people have had their lives ruined when crimes such as OUI, domestic violence, theft have been released. You can’t have it both ways.
If they have been charged/summoned to court then there is probable cause to believe the crime took place. Seems from what I have read there is video evidence, gonna be had to defend against that.
Interesting that the majority of the charges listed here relate to tax evasion etc. Is this Al Capone all over again?
Their lives were ruined the moment they went in the door and pulled down their pants.
Lets legalize it, require health checks and tax it. Then the “john” won’t be any more guilty than if he bought new golf clubs and hid them from his spouse.
That’s dumb. How about any man who hides anything from his spouse is chicken sh*t? I hate that. What kind of a normal relationship involves lying about stupid crap? Don’t tell my wife I spent $10 on lunch. Don’t tell my husband I bought a new pair of shoes. Speakes volumes for the kind of relationships people have with each other.
Here are the names:Gary Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks, Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore, Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker, Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White and Peter Wormell Sr. Seventeen on the list were heard to claim, “I did not have sex with that woman!”.
This whole question is about the “public’s right to know”. If police can withold this information…..what is next. That is why we have a “right to know” law.
Maine’s Freedom Of Access Laws: What is a Public Record?
……..”The Freedom of Access Act defines “public record” as “any written, printed or graphic matter or any mechanical or electronic data compilation from which information can be obtained, directly or after translation into a form susceptible of visual or aural comprehension, that is in the possession or custody of an agency or public official of this State or any of its political subdivisions, or is in the possession or custody of an association, the membership of which is composed exclusively of one or more of any of these entities, and has been received or prepared for use in connection with the transaction of public or governmental business or contains information relating to the transaction of public or governmental business”. A number of exceptions are specified. (See the discussion of exemptions below) 1 M.R.S.A. § 402 (3).
Question: Do you need to make a “FOAA” request to access “public records?”
……..”No. The Freedom of Access Act provides that “every person” has the right to inspect and copy public records. 1 M.R.S.A. § 408 (1)”……….
If we care about freedom we cannot allow the police to withold that which should be public information. This “right to know issue” is much bigger than any alleged prostitution crimes.
yeah!…….right. they will do it again,again and again until they get caught, or give a loved one a bad case of diseases.
She doesn’t look guilty to me.
Here are the names:
Gary Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks, Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore, Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker, Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White and Peter Wormell Sr.
I googled and on some of these guys its going to hit them in the wallet if they are married. Presidents of companies, vice presidents, mayor, business owners and the Bergen is a lawyer.
I’d imagine they would have to be successful or at least somewhat. A Woman that good looking wouldn’t just knock boots with Joe Schmo.
here is the new list with middle initials: The following have been charged: Gary D. Bahlkow, Jens W. Bergen, Norman P.
Crepeau Jr., Joseph P. Cuetara, Kenneth A. Fairbanks, Donald F. Hill, Monie B.
Hobbs Jr., David Kline, Robert R. Labonte, Dale P. Madore, Paul A. Main, Harry
J. McMann, Kevin L. Pagliccia, Claude S. Palmer Jr., Philip K. Parker, Colin P.
Powers, Clinton J. Ray, James A. Soule, John D. Verreault, James P. White, and
Peter M. Wormell, Sr.
Between October 5, 2012, and October 12, 2012, the Kennebunk Police
Department charged the following people with Engaging in Prostitution
based on an ongoing investigation. All individuals charged are due to
appear in Biddeford District Court on December 5, 2012, at 1pm: Gary
Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks,
Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore,
Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker,
Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White, and
Peter Wormell, Sr.I think I might know 2 of these guys.
Well get in contact with them and ask for the videos!
Think she made them a copy. Doubt it. Probably just kept them around for extortion.
Everyone keeps saying extortion, but how about just another opportunity to make money with some production of a little amature porn? I understand it’s illegal to videotape anyone without their consent, but hey, illegal activity already took place so I don’ t see much here in the line of abiding the law.
How about releasing the names of the Brewer prostitution ring a few years back…? Cinnamon treats/sweets? where is that list?
Yep, I bet we all know some of those names.
Excellent question and that was my entire point. Either something is illegal or it isn’t. And if it is illegal and one get’s caught one needs to be treated equally under the law. If the prostitutes names are released WHY wouldn’t their customer names be released as cooperative partners in the alleged crime? It does take 2 to engage in prostitution. Simply because society says well ‘boys will be boys’ but the women the ‘boys’ are being ‘boys’ with are somehow the criminal harlots. It’s nothing more than a sexist double standard and it needs to change gentlemen.
I wonder what kind of “sex” they were having? Does a simple hand-job, from a fairly attractive woman, qualify to ruin a life and marriage. I think not.
It’s not “cheating” per-se – it’s more like male human nature and a meaningless masturbation. The married men don’t get divorced – they go home to their loving wives with a smile. We can debate if that’s ethical – or not. I think it lies someplace in-between.
A true “cheater” is living a lie. A “Zumba Girl” is a meaningless impulse (so to speak).
In the end, men are men. Hard-wired and genetically predisposed to be attracted to young women. Can’t change that.
No clearly you can’t change stupid.
Sometimes all you need is a good ole’ fashioned!
I have a real hard time with argueing the logistics of sex. If it had been my husband I would consider just a “Simple (act)” as you put it cheating. In my opinion that is an intamate act. Once you cross that line and participate in intimate acts with someone who is not your spouse (assumeing you are committed to your spouse) then it is a violation of trust, thus the term “cheating”.
I agree. Which is why, IMO, even emotional affairs are cheating. Any act with another person that you don’t let your significant other know about is dishonest.
I’m sorry to hear the male gender is so weak that it can’t control basic impulses. Actually, it makes me think women have a lot more power than men give them credit for since it doesn’t appear to take much for your primal instincts to ‘make’ you to cast aside any respect for a significant other in the name of a casual sex act. That must be kind of scary to know you could lose control at any given moment.
I am not so sure it is about seeing the list at all for the majority. It was when the “powers that be” were going to release only a partial list less the Who’s Who portion. So it got down to if Joe or Jane’s name were released, costing them all the way around, then why not
the whole lot, equal and fair under the law. Between consenting adults it is what it is, and not prostitution. The divorce courts then should find in favor of those spouses’s injured who were unknowing, and not engaged in acts of infidelity. However, engage or entice a child and/or involve drugs in the mix and then the law and some real sentencing should kick in.
http://kennebunkpolice.org/ read the list on the Kennebunk site apperantly BDN is afraid
Is this the new protocol for releasing names of accused in all crimes going forward, first & last names only with no age, town, etc?
No, it is not but this is why the BDN has not published the names.
Agreed. The list with only names is all over the web now though & will only cause fingers to be pointed at a lot of people with the same or similar names who have not been accused.
…….removed! on consensus of other posters
The Press Herald is reporting the “former candidate for sheriff” shares the same name as a man on the list but did NOT go for Zumba lessons. Releasing just a name without further identifying information will probably lead to a lot of these embarrassing identity mistakes.
I hope your right in your allegations because relying on just names with ages or towns is really dangerous in cases like this.
Foolish men
Why is it that I keep seeing people diminish the crime of soliciting a prostitute as a “minor” crime and think that these johns should get privacy. While I might agree that such lists should be withheld until after a conviction, it should eventually be for sure. As you give each their summons let them know they have the time to own up to it themselves and tell whoever they feel they should before they read it in the paper. I see it as perhaps one of the most effective ways to try to prevent this from happening because what is the one thing they all want, well besides no strings attached sex…SECRECY. Make the risks of being found out more likely and you will help curb the crime. While this may be a fairly “minor” crime by statute and people like to argue that it is a victimless crime, it IS a major crime of moral and ethics and if you the spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend etc of someone engaged in such activity would you want to continue to live a lie with someone who has done such a thing, whether you stay with them or not, you need to know to not live a lie. As for people with common names I say at least an age should be included as well, no address or phone or info like that. Should you find yourself in a situation where you need to prove to your significant other that its not you, that should be easy to do. Yes this list is going to cause a lot of problems, domestics, divorces, kids lives ruined etc. but it is the fault of the johns and they need to stand up and be accountable for their actions not cry about privacy. Its all fun and games until you get caught, put more effort into fixing the problem instead of trying to get out of it, maybe instead of spending all your money on lawyers, own up to it, and spend that money on counseling or therapy for yourself and the loved ones whose lives you have destroyed.
Pass all the laws you want. You can’t legislate morality.
mises.org/books/defending.pdf
get yaself educated
Ms. Wright has’t been convicted yet. So it’s ok for her name to be published?
This ought to keep the diner coffee break crews busy for days – ah the juicy stuff at last!
Not to mention divorce court, family matters……. Wives seeking alimony…..
Here are the names.. http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20121015-NEWS-121019832
LRT US SEE THE NAMES NOW
“Invasion of privacy” is a laughable excuse for hiring a lawyer and trying to hide behind your crimes. The wives and girlfriends of the johns deserve to know that they may have been exposed to diseases.
as the public service ad goes: “80% of all domestic abusers in Maine are male
wait til these husbands go home to their angry wives, this should even up the percentages some.
Domestic violence is wrong no matter which sex the abuser is.
“80% of the women who commit domestic violence get away with it, because the system favors women in domestic matters.”
Fixed that for you.
yet another reason why this paper will die soon
actually, they probably got another 21 new subscribers today
ya, from Kennebunk, lol.
I get a kick out of John Doe 1 and 2. They say they have families and that this would ruin their lives beyond repair. One is disabled, which must have been a blast for the young lady, and the other is a family man and business owner…Well cry me a river. You two should have thought about that when you were digging the money out of your wallet to PAY FOR IT.
And on top of all that shame, she may have taped them in the act! Bwa ha ha! Few people look as good as they make it look in the movies in that situation. Now the real embarrassment begins!
Grandad said ” you always pay for it son”.
Another sexist comment.
Let me just say that I’m not sure what was “sexist
about my comment.
Elaborate if you care to, please.
Reducing a woman’s attributes to only those that are sexual, perhaps?
Maybe Grandad was talking about witty conversation and not sex, who knows…..but women have more to offer the world and those that they are in relationships with than what’s between their legs.
That’s absolutely true. I enjoy a good dinner and a clean kitchen.
And trust me when I say……Grandma was underpaid..
LOL!……Good one!
the name s were release on the weather channel email me if you want them
Darn, I wish we had the same type of betting system like they do in Vegas, then we can bet on who of the 3o+ listed will show up in the paper under divorces
Why could it take possible “months” to get the rest of the “list”????? COME ON! You get OUI, theft, drug use… even an unregistered vehicle..
your name is plastered in the news the next day……
Why all the sympathy for the johns? They are as guilty as the prostitutes.
Yeah, Eddie, there’s a whole lot of going on about that point. LOL
Legalize it! Tax it! Be done with it!
Did you actually read the list of charges against the girl? That’s some serious S#$%.
Names are on MA-NE.net.
For those who want sex so bad that they have to pay for it, next time try Last Call!
BDN has a point. i checked on one name–there are over 50 people in maine with the same name. That means over 49 people may be innocently hassled.
Are you saying people in Maine can’t tell that some names are very common?
Simple fix, run with photo beside their name or since Ms.Wright taped many of her escapades & kept such good records, she can help make a positive identification…(just kidding folks !) Their names will come out, one way or the other. Kind of feel bad for all parties involved. Sex has been around for awhile now…paid or otherwise.
What is this “invasion of privacy” stuff? Since when are police and prosecutors in the business of shielding criminal defendants from the embarrassment of being charged? This is unprecedented in Maine. This is very suspicious indeed.
Wright and Strong are charged with, among other things, the crime of Violation of Privacy (Title 17-A Maine Revised Statutes, section 511), for videorecording several of the clients without their consent during their sessions. That makes those clients both criminal defendants and victim/complainants at the same time.
That’s exactly what I said. Unless these men are going with the Howie Carr Philosophy (which goes for me too!); “If I am ever accused of a crime in this country, all I want is to be treated like an illegal alien.” I’m sorry gentlemen, but releasing your names as part of a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION is not an invasion of privacy. It amazes me that people who wield absolute power and authority and will think nothing of destroying the lives of others sure don’t like it when the roles are reversed…
And that is why they run these operations, to make sure it never happens. It’s really not about the prostitution at all.
Names listed on the Kennebunk Police Website.
They have been released. go to NECN.com because the PPH & BDN blocked my post and probably will this time as well
Over/under on the number of UMO alums on the list is set at 7.5
There’s already at least 1
Couple lawyers and two company VP’s as well.
What do you expect from lawyers?
If I could find an honest lawyer, I’d sue my bank.
Your paper sucks. Afraid to publish the Johns??? Guess your not a real paper.
Don’t recall hearing bout you being dragged here by force, Snowflake. Feel free to hit the gate, mate. Hit the ramp, tramp. Burn rubber. Make like a tree and leave. LOL
Then don’t read it. Go ahead and start a “real” paper of your own that will last 115 years.
At least BDN is allowing comments on this matter, both the Portland Press Herald and Kennebec Journal are not allowing them.
Speaking of Johns, you all are reminding me of a story:
Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. (John 8)
I’m not especially religious, but even I can remember what Jesus said.
Sorry if I wrecked the party.
I believe the last time I heard that story it was told by Bob Carlson.
Despite the messenger, the message is nonetheless valid.
True enough, I was simply reminiscing.
sorry, but what does this story have to do with anything? The zumba madam did not commit adultery, the men did, hurting whole familes. The zumba mistress defrauded the irs, the government, so on and so on. I’m sure if she claimed all of her income and paid taxes like us poor people, this probably wouldn’t be an issue. The men, thinking only of themselves, deserve to have stones thrown at them by their wives, children and communities they lied to. Jesus’ story was about adultery, not lying; not deceiving; not hurting loved ones.
Split hairs much? LOL
“Hate your next door neighbor, but don’t forget to say Grace…” (Phil Ochs, 1967)
It is truly disgusting that this judge implicates numerous people in Maine with the same name as the accused by not identifying home towns and ages. This is worse than not identifying at all. Identification of persons issued a summons for engaging in an illegal act which is consistent with custom and law. Who is paying people off? This is crazy.
No doubt you could find something ‘”disgusting” about most situations of which you don’t approve, partner. Gotta be the most worn-out, over played word connected to this entire drama. Got nothing new or intelligent to add, just be disgusted, or find it disgusting, or maybe even be over-whelmed with disgust. LOL Now that there is purty disgusting.
Shoulda kept your fly shut and your wallet in your pants
I did it. I’m on the list. I confess I loved every minute of it. It was great!
Much ado…
My name is John Doe! My reputation will be irreparably tarnished!
WHY DOES THE BDN HAVE TO LIE? THIS MUST’VE HIT HOME!
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well they ain”t in moi black book!! lol
This is an absolute crock. I knew when it started that the names wouldn’t be released. All the legal wrangling has done is pad a few lawyers pockets.
Unfortunately spouses cheat all the time. These men paid some money. SO WHAT? Did any of you think of the children of these men? I think you’re all pathetic wanting to know who the men are.
This is hillarious…..People commenting here still squirming to find out the names….ROTFLMAO..
Some people are very obsessed with lists…..
Some cities routinely publish the names (some even publish photos) of accused johns weekly. What’s the big deal with publishing this list, BDN? If you look hard enough, you can find more than one person with just about any name, no matter how unusual.
The same sort of thing happens, where names are routinely released and published, with little or no clarification or WHICH John Johnson was accused of stealing the car or getting into a barroom fight or robbing the store or dealing the drugs, so why all the sudden concern about releasing these names?
I’m sorry, I culd care less for the names. But it is interesting how much time others are spending on this. The names are published, move on, GET A LIFE!!!
So true, 100% right… I’ve been poking fun at these busy bodies for the last 2 weeks.
You seem to be an agreeable guy….keep up the good work….
Thank you, fair and balanced too…
Are you effing kidding me? Release of your names will cause irreperable damage and embarrassment? Maybe if you have a wife and kids or business you should have thought about that before you sought out a stranger for sex instead of trying to fix what’s wrong in your own relationship. Or here’s a thought-get divorced if you don’t believe in fidelity. Or is prostitution different? Not really cheating because you pay for it? Also just because someone is named John Smith doesn’t mean every John Smith is going to be harrassed or have his home TPed. Who are people trying to hide or kid?
I would have my name released to the papers if I chose to do something I knew was a crime. I don’t feel one bit bad for these PIGS, should have thought of how this would ruin their lives and families…but I do know if my partner was doing this I would want the whole community to know..They could have been transmitting who knows what to their families…The deserve everything that happens to them.
John Doe’s 1 and 2 are pathetic to think they have more rights than any other citizen in the community Their mothers should be proud.
As far as the list being printed by the Bangor Daily it’s just like the small papers of small communities they won’t print anything you write in the letters to the editor that is not politically correct in fear of upsetting someone (example of how much the super gets paid for the school district in SAD1!) No wonder the community has no money………but yet can help pay for the 100 birthday celebration of the local hospital……..one wrong thing right after another in the country
Men should not be running anything in the country cause they can’t keep their minds on track, it’s always in the gutter
There’s a consequence for every action.
Who paid off BDN for not publishing the names?
People should know, there is the great potential of these men bringing home a disease or infecting someone that they had an additional relationship with. It’s not a casual wham bam encounter anymore, these days it can bring a death sentence and all involved and all sexual partners need to be examined for their own safety as well as others.
Men paid money to have sex?! What monsters! *Sarcasm*
There are actually issues to deal with in this world. Unless the girls where forced into prostitution why would anyone care about this?
21 dummies who used their real name…
Actually, they may not have used their real names. Mark Strong, who was also a private detective, looked them up via their license plates. He got names and addresses that way, and passed the information to her. Or so the story goes.
Is that even legal?
http://static.djlmgdigital.com/scn/seacoastonline/graphics/spclReports/linked/affidavit-07-12-2012.pdf
“…lack of identifying information…” Doesn’t a person’s name qualify as “identifying information?”
Some of these are common names and they need to properly identify them before they release that information. If you had a common name and didn’t participate in this, would you want your name splattered all over the internet and potentially destroy a marriage or relationship of any kind because of having a common name? I think that is what they meant by this.
I’m sure the videos could give all sorts of clues towards the men’s identity!
If the Bangor Daily News wont publish the names of anyone accused of this ordeal than if i ever do anything wrong i dont ever want to see my name published they are no different than me !!
we never saw the names of the Brewer prostitution ring, cinnamon sweets/treats…..why?
John Doe 1 and John Doe 2:
Both of you–as well as the other Johns (and who knows, perhaps some Janes as well?!)–knew that prostitution is illegal in Maine. You should have considered the ramifications of your alleged behavior before engaging the services of a prostitute. To now argue that releasing your identity could cause irreparable harm to your reputations, your families, your spouses…is a little too late. You were willing to take the risk when you could fly under the flag of anonymity..but now that exposure is imminent you want to “protect your privacy”?! Well, like any other crime, once charged, that becomes public information, and in the case of prostitution–a crime that by its very definition can irreparably damage family life–there are two old sayings that fit perfectly: “Is the f—— you got worth the f—— you’re taking?”, and “If you play, you pay”. In the case of matrimonial damage, the payment could be far more than the fine for engaging in prostitution!
Alexis is a fine looking women! Yea, I would pay her for some kinky sex, oh hell yea!! Shes better looking then 90% of women in Washington County. At least I can say I did a hot looking women. Better then growing old and only having fat out of shape Aunt Bees!! lol
Would she even give you the time of day if she wasn’t a madam? I feel for those 90% of woman you referred to. Sounds pretty shallow to me…
why is this making national headlines?
yes what they did was wrong, but honestly, who cares?
It is no longer about the sex, It has become an issue about how law inforcement and the DA’s office treat criminals due to their economic status.
Another form of government control. You can pay to get your eyes waxed, get your car waxed, get your pipes cleaned, even have someone serenade you with a flute. But if you pay to get a tune on your skin flute…..You’re now a criminal???
Hey Now!
Notice that when it’s a bunch of men involved, it’s always a “minor offense.”
I was reading CNN’s news article regarding this story and found it quite amusing that the Attorney for the “Johns” made an argument for the names to not be released because in doing so, this would cause damage to the lives of several good men and their families. Well, if these were such good men then why would they pay for sex and risk someone finding out. If the things you do are things that you would not want anyone knowing then obviously the thing being done is wrong. Did John Doe # 1-29 ever tell their family or co-workers…”I’m taking a long lunch because I am going to go pay for sex and get m y groove on”. I seriously doubt that they didn’t know this was a big risk they were taking and in doing so, could cause damage to ther family and jobs if the word ever got out. I say publish the list, screw their dignity, maybe by doing this, it will send a clear message to others doing this that you play with fire, you will get burned.
Release the Videos!!
Sex takes 2 people (or more). Just because the same woman is involved with multiple clients, doesn’t mean the men jumped at the chance to get some should be let off the hook. I am sure she didn’t put a gun to their head and scream, “loosen the belt loser”. These were willing particpants who know prostitution is illegal. Release the names.
I had a few minutes to do a internet search on a few of the “Johns” on the list before heading off to work. I chose the most uncommon names to limit the chance of multiple listings and was quite surprised by my findings. I did a search on seven of the twenty-one, and if it’s any indication of the backgrounds of those remaining names, I can better understand the “stone walling” involved in making the names public.
All seven were easily found, and while all were not “movers and shakers” as they say, all were either professions in their fields, or small business owners. Not what one would commonly refer to as a every day “working stiff” by any means.
I know this is only a random sampling, but the magnitude of this case is more than I ever imagined. If this first offering is any indication of the remaining members backgrounds and status, this case is going to send shock waves through local communities far exceeding the limits of the Richter scale!
working stiffs…hehe love it!
Where did you find the actual list of names, I have tried looking also and have come up with zilch
Didn’t we have our own prostitution ring here in brewer, where are those names?
Ah, the age old dilemma. How do you release the names of the least connected politically without exposing those who are the most connected politically? Tough job for someone.
I like the fact that they combined Zumba dancing with prostitution. It shows panache. But, does this now mean that Zumba dancing is considered fore play? lol.
This whole episode reminds me of a town lynching–mostly all the people following this and commenting their opinions will not be affected in any way regardless as to whether any names are listed or not—let the hangings begin,the more the better ! And after the show all will be forgotten forever—–except by the affected families.
trash, right now everyone in that area is looked at suspiciously. What about this cleaning up of the town don’t you get? Kennebunk has a right to have their image restored as well.
so, according to the first paragraph, The Bangor Daily News says that it is filtering news rather than reporting the news. Doesn’t that go against the premise of a ‘news’ agency?
It is funny. People in Maine don’t want gay marriage because they think it is immoral yet, it is ok to break marriage vows and commit adultery and not have your name released? In reality, what these men did was more against the teachings of Christ than gay marriage.
The Bible says that in the end of times there will be false teachers. Yes, if one or any of these men are in power and are manipulating others to follow, I want to know. Just like Ted Haggard and the leaders of Exodus so we could all see that those who protest the most usually have something to hide.
It is time for names to be released or there is no case.
Those names were: Gary Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks, Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore, Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker, Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White, and Peter Wormell.
Yeh, it is all pretty sensational. Yet I know in my heart there is a considerable number of church-going married people who cheat on each other on a regular basis and don’t get caught. They are of course exempt, because there is no law against it because no money changes hands. The worst part of what was done at the Zumba Studio was the secret video aspect. But, that’s part of the risk isn’t it?
Those names were: Gary Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks, Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore, Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker, Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White, and Peter Wormell.
A simple google search
Isn’t it nice when some innocent people can be dragged through the mud if they happen to have the same name of the guilty? Why protect the guilty at the expense of the innocent? I thought our society was above all that, but apparently the scales of Lady Justice tips on such occasions. All it takes is money and/or power.
Easy fix to make sure the right people are identified–post a picture of the person along with the name……wow… I cant believe I thought of this.
They made their beds and laid in them, literally. Prominent or not, there are consequences to everyone’s actions. Why should the johns assume they are any better than anyone else, and try to keep their names secret?
The only thing worse than reading this trash is writing about it….oops!
Will there be any Johns local to the Bangor area in the 150+ men ? My guess is yes! Any opinions?
John #1 is disabled so I guess he is using his disability check to pay for her services. Which leads me to believe if he is able to get out and pay someone for sex he is definitely able to work. So your name should be plastered all over every paper in the country along with all the others. It’s funny that the men have no problem with having their “lady of the evenings” name posted and pictures of her all over everything so WHY if they are part of the crime do they think they are exempt from theirs being shown. These men talking about this would ruin their marriage – I hate to tell you but if you are engaging sexually with someone other than your wife, your marriage has been over for a long time. MEN you need to grow up!!!
rumor on the street george hale on the list
false rumor
Why is it ok to destroy her life for the choices she has made but its ok to give the dirtbags a pass on the choices they made.
She is very pretty, must have a very strong stomach or a good imagination. But fair is fair if her picture and name is plastered everyplace because she allegedly broke the law then everyone else that allegedly broke the law should be revealed too.
If I had one of the names released I would be talking to a lawyer right now. A release of a small part of the list raises the question of who made the decision to release only part of the names. Is it the police department, or perhaps the district attorney’s office. Is this an attempt to put out a piece at a time so no one will notice if they omit a few names. Or is it a deliberate attempt to keep this story in the news for as long as possible? There are supposedly all these “detailed records” so why aren’t they just releasing the full list and getting this embarrassing fiasco out in the open and putting it behind us?
The key point here is that these people haven’t been convicted. Even if they are on tape unless the alleged prostitute sings or they chirp, this is over for at least some of these cases. simply being on tape having sex isn’t beyond a reasonable doubt.
She hasn’t been convicted yet, either. Think about that.
like the stranger in the bar they might hook up with is guaranteed to be a bastion of health right?
The Forum Comment Section on Portland Press Herald’s Site got too heated on this story. They bailed: “Comments on this story have been disabled due to repeated violations of our policies requiring civil discourse.”
can’t help but wonder if James Soule is the same guy as The former Mayor of South Portland. BOOM!
Anyone here that had to explain to their wives or girlfriends it wasn’t me, this morning? or I’m sorry honey you will be getting that new car and vacation home this week? I would like to hear from the other side. A good way to release the anger or regret by posting a comment..
What a circus this is becoming.
Anybody else think this whole fiasco would make a good movie?
you know, with the huge increase in pharmacy robberies, drug related crimes, and a poor economy doesn’t anyone have anything better to do then mess around with a woman who sold herself WILLINGLY!! (not forced like those brought to the USA as slaves or the homelss drug addicted woman feeding her habit). Fine her, file the chrages to the customers, save tax payers a few dollars by freeing the DA and move on to something more important!
A fresh, juicy burger is much tastier then a tough ‘ol steak?
I wouldn’t say this juicy burger is any place I want to go if it had been nibbled away by MANY before it came my way!
The replies do not seem to be going where they are intended.
edit; this one seemed to…..
Oh, so you didn’t intend to have the burger comment on this forum? LMAO!!
The lynch mob philosophy is to stone all for violation of marriage vows, not even knowing whether all are so legally bound. Few men, single or otherwise, can deny ever obtaining the services of prostitutes.
The BDN made a wise decision not to print customer’s names. And then, what possible good could it do, other than satiate the medieval cravings of a few, anxious to have people publicly embarrassed. The marrieds will have enough to do explaining to their wives how the bowling game wasn’t.
Prostitutes and customers are subject to six months jail time, and up to $1,000 in fines. A brothel owner could face up to a year in jail and a $2,000 fine.
All states with the exception of one, have made prostitution illegal. The exception is Nevada, where legalized prostitution is a tax – paying business for the state.
For King Solomon, he was not hindered, or, did he even feel bound to obey the Book. Besides a consort, he is reputed to have had 700 wives and 300 concubines. The point being, little has changed for centuries, or, for that matter will ever change, when the eye of one makes contact with another.
Briney, I agree about not printing the clients’ names but I don’t believe that most men have obtained the services of prostitutes.
I agree with the BDN not publishing the names of the 21 men identified in the sex for hire activity in Southern Maine. The problem is that if you punch any of those names in a White Pages.com search, you will get multiple listings. One such name is so common, that a dozen names are listed. In several cases, their wives and family members are listed. So, suspicion is cast on eleven other individuals and their families that have nothing to do with it. How right is that?! I hope Joe Bornstein has a field day with that one. A number of innocent individuals and families may be potentially traumatized just because they have the same name due to lack of specific accurate information. You don’t believe me? Go to White Pages.com and punch in James White. He is on the list.
You are so right on this one! This could destroy many happy relationships unnecessarily! I don’t think that they should be publishing those names for the same reason – too many common names and mis-identification. Also, society is so wrapped up in drama and controversy that they NEED to have this information for their little social “hen” sessions. It’s not like the families are not going to find out that their loved ones went there – they are being charged so, why is it any of our business about this list. People are nosey is why!
I hope the Johns are charged at least a Maine Sales Tax for the Service Rendered. Especially when the woman is being charged for back taxes.
Happens all the time, look at the Police Beat. Freedom of the press must survive, true it would assist all if the Mug shots were publicized also. The poor spouses and girlfriends need to know so they can be tested as it could be a death sentence for the innocent ones. At least they get to know and what they do with it, is their business. Something like this, I do believe the mug shots should appear so there is no confusion.
Ms Wright will probably end up with her own reality show after this all “blow’s” over.
I just love it when the Government wants you to pay taxes on profit from Prostitution. Maybe they should start taxing all the Drug Lords and their Street Pushers too. At least the Trillions of Dollars of National Debt, would disappear in just a few minutes. No worry about any tax increase from Romney and Lyin Ryan for the Rich.
when obama allows the Bush tax cut to go away the middle class will be hit with an additional 2300 per year tax.
So where is the list that has been released????
If I was in control of the list and could hide some names I would have a new Truck, Car and a larger swiss bank account. Just saying I might blackmail those who really wanted to stay off the list. If possible get some state and federal grants to start a new LLC.. maybe change some zoning laws.. the possibilities of extortion are endless.
I hope they used their credit cards for these purchases…………..I mean think of all those points………….
http://www.mshof.com/Inductee-21
necn.com has the first 21 names on their web site and here they are:
Gary Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks, Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore, Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker, Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White, and Peter Wormell.
B.D.N. is censoring this “scoop” … again … and, it is doing so on their own volition.
This is the reason it is important to have alternate media sources, such as Youtube, Wikileaks, the internet blogs, in general, … to get around the politics of waiting for a benevolent B.D.N. , et.al. to share information about state actions, investigations and processes so that the public, and not the newspaper, can examine, for themselves, these actions. This is why we have a free press in the first place. Newspapers are not suppose to “hold back” anything. Quite the opposite, right or wrong, poorly or badly, they are required to “blab” on everything and everyone, subject to reporting the truth and not lies. This is the only way people can have equal protection from the state, the police and their biased, media lackeys on the Editorial Boards of our, so-called, free press, by having news reporters who fearlessly report the news. The obedient news reporters at B.D.N. seem to have forgotten this ethic. Poo Poo on you. Gutless.
And the first duplicates have started to scream already. Predictable.
Hmmmmmm…….has The State Public Heath office become involved?
I don’t care if they claim to have practiced safe sex, that’s a lot of DNA and body fluids and a long list of names.
I’ve seen very few comments on concerns of Sexually Transmitted Diseases or a stated concern for an innocent spouse/girlfriend becoming an STD victim.
Grandpa is named John we got him hidden in the attic why are the police arresting ebberyone named John? They alreddy got 21
Reposting someone else’s brave post:
Between October 5, 2012, and October 12, 2012, the Kennebunk Police
Department charged the following people with Engaging in Prostitution
based on an ongoing investigation. All individuals charged are due to
appear in Biddeford District Court on December 5, 2012, at 1pm: Gary
Bahlkow, Jens Bergen, Norman Crepeau, Joseph Cuetara, Kenneth Fairbanks,
Donald Hill, Monie Hobbs, David Kline, Robert Labonte, Dale Madore,
Paul Main, Harry McMann, Kevin Pagliccia, Claude Palmer, Philip Parker,
Colin Powers, Clinton Ray, James Soule, John Verreault, James White, and
Peter Wormell, Sr.I think I might know 2 of these guys.
Just a note to the judgmental: I am married to a wonderful woman who happens to have a progressive neuromuscular disease which will someday result in her premature death. I work full time (and then some) and spend much of the rest of my time caring for her. Sex with my wife is out of the question. Needless to say, I don’t have a lot of opportunities for dating. Once every couple of months I go to a hooker. I could have been a name on that list. If that happened, my wife would divorce me and I would probably lose my job (along with our health care benefits). Would this make you happy?
That is quite an ethical dilemma and probably will cause a few people to pause and reflect.
Personally, I’m tired of the special treatment people get. Some loser on bath salts jumps in the Penobscot River…his name and face are all over the place. Someone robs the Rite Aid…his name and face are all over the place (if/when they’re caught). Slap your wife/girlfriend…your name and face is broadcast as well.
On the other hand, kill someone out front of Carolina’s Sports Bar… its an act of congress to get the accused names released. Take part in a huge prostitution ring…BDN decides not to publish the names. Reporting should be fair and consistent regardless of its a Superintendent’s son, Popular Business Men, or anyone that could fall into the category of “pillar of the community”
I was talking to 2 police officers from separate towns that are friends of mine. They both said how they felt so bad for the Bangor Officer that had his face smeared all over the BDN for his OUI. They went on to say that they were happy to see that his actual BAC wasn’t made public! Now, I don’t know if BDN published his BAC or not or if even Bangor PD made it availablebut if not…I have an issue with that
It was published. 0.13 I believe.
Why don’t the poor people who have been charged with OUI have this opportunity to save face. The old saying here is true “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”
The American Legal system should not allow a double standard to exist in it’s public information policies.
new names with middle initials: The following have been charged: Gary D. Bahlkow, Jens W. Bergen, Norman P.
Crepeau Jr., Joseph P. Cuetara, Kenneth A. Fairbanks, Donald F. Hill, Monie B.
Hobbs Jr., David Kline, Robert R. Labonte, Dale P. Madore, Paul A. Main, Harry
J. McMann, Kevin L. Pagliccia, Claude S. Palmer Jr., Philip K. Parker, Colin P.
Powers, Clinton J. Ray, James A. Soule, John D. Verreault, James P. White, and
Peter M. Wormell, Sr.
Hole Lee Full Monty. I just did an internet search for Alexis Wright. Who knew she was a budding Netrepreneur as well…
i dont understand how it is that they wont release the names of the “johns” , when if anyone one of us on here commenting breaks the law they usally print in the paper when it first goes down then again if your convicted so these guys have money and are supposed up standing citizens well if they are married they definetly got explaining to do but can anyone tell me why this is happening is it money or what cause i know i felt really embarresed when i got caught night hunting but it makes me not want to be that guy we all talk about at the water cooler at work
She don’t look that good to me pimple face
This girl is smokin hottt! Noone should be ashamed of having sex with her!!! Prostitution is such a victim less crime–reeeediculous!!!!!!
I personally do not see how exposing the johns of a prostitution ring will make any difference on the trade itself other than the persons identified will likely not be on your next list and will not curb the the industry as a whole where high profits in the trade in human flesh out way the reality of not finding gainful employment that one can actually live on and support a family with out energy assistance and food stamps here in Maine and other states,
Repost of names with middle initials .
“here is the new list with middle initials: The following have been charged: Gary D. Bahlkow, Jens W. Bergen, Norman P.
Crepeau Jr., Joseph P. Cuetara, Kenneth A. Fairbanks, Donald F. Hill, Monie B.
Hobbs Jr., David Kline, Robert R. Labonte, Dale P. Madore, Paul A. Main, Harry
J. McMann, Kevin L. Pagliccia, Claude S. Palmer Jr., Philip K. Parker, Colin P.
Powers, Clinton J. Ray, James A. Soule, John D. Verreault, James P. White, and
Peter M. Wormell, Sr.”
So what…
Hmm, John Doe #1 is disabled with children. Why is this relevant? You obviously are not too disabled to have sex! Why must they whine when they get caught? All of their names should be printed, just like any crime committed. Yes, many are going to be hurt and divorce rates will probably skyrocket. Pillars of the community will fall too, so be it.
Invasion of Privacy? We don’t want to see the videos we just want to see the names!
WHERE ARE THE NAMES WE WANT TO SEE THEM NOW