When you stand behind the polling curtain in November and mark who you want for president, you will likely make your decision based on a number of things: the candidate’s political party, stances on social issues, voting history, personality. But another matter may be on your mind, too: Whom do you trust?
That trust is a complicated emotion, based on your belief that the candidate you choose will not only do what he says but do the right thing. It’s based on your belief that the candidate you choose has the ability to handle the job and that he has values and character you respect.
Based on their poll numbers, both Republican candidate and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and Democratic candidate President Barack Obama have to build up America’s trust. To do this they have to be clear about their plans.
Like any good leader does, Romney has to explain the reasons for his previous decisions, in order to encourage more openness. Though he is accomplished and determined, he carries an image of a lack of conviction, largely because he has changed his position on many major issues, including abortion, “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, gun control, health care reform and climate change. If he has honestly changed his mind, he should explain how he arrived at his new, more conservative views.
Romney’s image of reliability has also suffered because of his vagueness on a variety of policy issues. He carries clout as a former CEO, but how, exactly, will he improve the economy more effectively than President Barack Obama? He says he wants to lower taxes and make up the cost by closing tax loopholes, but which loopholes? How does he plan to pay for increasing military spending? To earn trust, he needs to be clear about not just what he wants to do, but how he wants to do it.
Obama, as he showed in his speech at the Democratic National Convention, has to build trust by being honest about the last four years and laying out a clear path for how he will work with Congress. His re-election battle is a tough one after the nation’s extraordinary economic challenges, and it’s unrealistic to expect a recession to be fixed in a few years. But he cannot use the economy as an excuse. He must, just as Romney must, show voters specific ways the country will mend.
Drawing people back — getting them to trust him again — will involve Obama building a mutual sense of purpose. As he said in his speech on Thursday night, the election is not about him but you. He’s right. People need to feel like they’re fighting for something larger than themselves. That inspiration, though, must be rooted in the clarity of concrete goals.
Both Ann Romney, at the RNC, and first lady Michelle Obama, at the DNC, raised the issue of trust, each asking voters to trust their husbands. “You can trust Mitt. He loves America,” Ann Romney said. “I love that we can trust Barack to do what he says he’s going to do, even when it’s hard — especially when it’s hard,” said Michelle Obama.
Michelle Obama captured the definition of trust: It’s earned by making tough decisions that might not necessarily benefit your position of power, whether you’re a former CEO or president. Obama may have lost the shine and enthusiasm generated by his historic election in 2008. Romney may be struggling with his likeability factor. Both need to get specific to overcome their political shortcomings and earn voters’ trust.
I trust the President more than I trust Romney/Ryan (especially Ryan). No contest. The Ds get my vote.
You buy the mainstream media message? Why?
Per my other post, do you buy the Faux News propaganda?
You must enjoy being lied to? Obama has done almost nothing that he promised to do. What makes you think he’ll change THIS time?
The Romney campaign is so full of lies and they do not care when they get called on them.
Have you heard Ryan, his speech at the convention was full of lies. He even lied about his marathon time. Romney can’t hold to a position for more than 24 hours. If you are looking for liars then the Republicans are your guys.
He has also lied about the number of over 14,000 mountains in CO he has climbed. There is a climbing club called the Fourteener’s club in that he claims to have climbed 40 of the 55 peaks in Colorado over 14,000 feet.
If personal attacks mean anything, Obama should not be trusted. I think it says more about a persons character (and maturity) if you resort to personal attacks rather than discussing the merits of their deeds.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80810.html
If that’s what we base our decisions on, neither party has a viable candidate this cycle.
That is a good article. Thanks for the link. I read it. Did you? I say it’s about time the Democrats start fighting fire with fire. One can only be pushed so far.
Finally the Democrats have found their muscle.
How about the attack on President Obama by the Senate Minority Leader who made it his #1 priority to make President Obama a ‘one term President’.
The President took office with one of the worst, if not the worst, situation for this country since the Great Depression. On top of that he has been saddled with a do nothing Congress and a Senate that has obstructed any and everything this administration has tried to do. Is it any wonder that the Congress/Senate has the worst favorability rating in history?
I don’t trust any politician 100%. I have a distrust of most of what they say. I do have a fear for this country if we allow the current crop of Republican/Tea Party politicians takeing complete control.
The Dems had complete control of the government for his first two years. Weren’t you paying attention? Even the Dems in the legislature knew his policies were a disaster.
Republican Leader Mitch McConnell: “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny Obama a second term”
Why were jobs not the priority?
Why should America vote for a party that put themselves before the public?
If Republicans are willing to put their party before the well being of the public that elected them when not in power, why wouldn’t they do the same when in power?
Get real. Name the last democrat legislative leader that desired a republican president to be in office for two terms instead of just one.
That is not the point. The point is that they decided to obstruct the President and the Democrats completely on EVERY ISSUE AND PROPOSAL so that there would be no progress in the country. They wanted the country to be in worse shape so that they would be elected next election. That is unprecedented and not the same thing as wanting their guy to win the next election.
Since you know more than I do, please help me out?
A necessary political priority in order to hopefully save this country.
Read the new book by Woodward. Obama had no intention of working with the Republicans. Obama’s policies, goals, and budgets are so bad that many of his own democratic party will not vote with him.
So Mitt agrees the Bush tax cuts aren’t working?
Obama has tried to work with Republican’s but they keep moving away from him and claiming he won’t compromise.
I just bought the book, WHAT page is that on????
Actually, Reagan inherited a worse situation, and by this point in his presidency, the nation was well into recovery with 12 million + new jobs.
Just because Obama says it and the media repeats it does not make it so.
Yes, and Reagan raised taxes numerous times in order to do it. Do you see that happening with the current Congress?
Reagan certainly did NOT inherit a worse situation….. you do not know what you are talking about.
The economy was losing 750,000 jobs a month and we were engaged in two unfunded wars when Reagan took over?
When Reagan took office we weren’t on the brink of a Depression.
When Reagan took office he wasn’t faced with a Congress that made it their #1 priority to twart his every move. We still had peope in Congress and the Senate who could look at the big picture and work with people they disagreed with. That no longer seems to be the case.
And Reagan wasn’t a black man.
Mitt would back an Israeli strike on Iran
Mitt’s Iranian oil investments
Joe Strummer wept learning “Rock the Casbah” was written on a bomb dropped on Iraq during Desert Storm
Yet the One has done NOTHING that he promised with regards to national defense. The troops are still there. Why do you continue to believe him???
Drive safely.
Turn off the Voice of Maine! Or your hearing will be affected, and you will need cochlear implants, too.
Obama has been the target of personal attacks from the Right since before he took office.
Trust lyin Ryan and Willard? No way.
I trust what Pres. Obama said from the start…..that if he could not turn around the economy and provide the hope and change that his platform was based on that he should not get a second term….this President has been a disaster for America…..it truly is time for hope and change and my vote is for Mr. Romney……
I might agree with you, if I didn’t think Romney would be even worse.
Obama’s problem has been twofold, taking financial advice from the same sort of guys that caused the ’08 crash and mistaking conceeding to GOP ideas at the outset of negotiations as bipartisanship. The only thing worse would have been McCain or Romney.
“NUTS!!” ~~~~~~General Anthony McAuliffe
Absolutely correct!
What do you suppose the Republicans where doing all this time?
Singing Go BamaYYY Go?
Wake up!
The man was trying to succeed and the GOP was trying to Fail!
Obama had 2 years of a majority in the house and senate. Why didn’t he get his agenda completed then? Quit trying to blame the party that isn’t in control.
He never had a super majority in the Senate.
Again…when the two Independents caucus with you, you have a super majority.
You lie like your man running for President. he never had 60 Democrats in that two year period, 2 of the 60 were Independents. If you want to spin it that the Independents were really Democrats, which is what most of the Republicans would do, then he still did not have a filibuster proof for the 2 years only for about 5 1/2 months. The dates were 7/7/09 to 8/25/09 which is mostly so called vacation time for congress, and then from 9/25/09 to 2/4/10 and the xmas closing till mid Jan cuts much from that time. But in reality he never had a filibuster proof Congress with 60 Democrats and the R’s never were afraid to threaten or to use it.So stop lying and tell the truth for a change
The recent Republican legislators have made greater use of the filibuster and similar tools than any Congress in history with one purpose, to avoid compromising and working with their fellow Americans. Compromise is not a 4 letter word.
The Grand Old Prevaricator party has been corrupted by ill-educated tea partiers who think the way to win is to never compromise. Problem is, history has proven otherwise. If they are not stopped, they will destroy this country. Paul Lepage has already shown that on a state level.
There is a reason for lack of Republican compromise. When good compromises with evil, evil always wins.
Two years to fix the mess of 8 years of Republican leadership.
The Republicans have had 2 years in control of the House so they should lose their majority there with your logic.
heard of the filibuster …. the Republicans are ruining this country..
Control is divided between the 3 branches of government I was always told. The president really doesn’t have the power a lot of people insist he has. His power is really that of a cheerleader more than anything else. He can propose things, but Congress is in charge of making the sausage. And as anyone knows, the Senate has a little thing called a filibuster, and any single individual can put a complete stop to the whole process any time they want, without even identifying themselves publicly. So the idea that one party can control the whole shebang is patently false, unless you have a supermajority in the Senate.
He saved the country from a depression, from falling off the cliff.
I do not like this Romney Mitt,
I do not like his plans one bit!
I do not care that he is rich,
I do not like accounts BankSwiss.
I do not like his healthcare’s free,
I do not like “But just for ME!”
I do not like his Etch-A-Sketch,his flip flopping makes me retch.
I do not like “A Woman’s Place”,it’s back in 1950′ space.
I do not like his snobby air,
I do not like his “I don’t care”.
I do not like he’s anti-science,
I do not like EPA noncompliance.
I do not like his Wall Street friends,
I do not like their selfish trends.
I do not like the job creators,they want us all to be just waiters.
Now that copious speakers at both political convention forums have finished hyper-ventilating with wild claims of creating future prosperity .. Reality sets in with a dull haze. Does the phrase “Have reached the point of no return” connect? If Republicans accrue a success of enacting even partial elements of the Ryan plan.. the US economy collapse. If Democrats keep their intentions to spend unrestricted, increase taxes, or continue with unfettered borrowing … the economy disintegrates. Bernanke has led the Fed into a dark canyon with no way out .. a twist in either direction means instantaneous financial implosion. Citizen democracy has turned into a mob affair .. Gamers .vs. Exploiters of the collective system which we once fondly called America. Where can I get a degree to become a certified Warlord?
Now this is a post by someone who knows hyper-ventilating … up close and personal!
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Got any Maine Maritime conspiracy theories for us today CF?
I think the University of Mogadishu offers that degree online.
John McKernan is the head of for-profit college corporation that’s being investigated for fraud. You might start there.
http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2011/08/08/business/company-violated-federal-student-aid-rules-under-mckernan-u-s-says/
Now, now, MEProud, don’t confuse people with, of all things, facts. The Grand Old Prevaricators never allow facts to cloud their “informed” opinions.
There is no empirical evidence that raising taxes harms the economy, just the opposite actually. We know rich folks don’t like to pay their fair share of taxes, but they have been made to do so in the past, and it didn’t hurt them nearly as much as people today seem to believe it does. It’s like ripping off a band-aid, just do it and get it over with, and there will be fewer tears and gnashing of teeth.
Excellent verse and right on point, MEProudLIBERAL. Thank you.
Actually, a rather stupid post. Why do you people refuse to see the dangers that liberal policies have placed this country in? $16 trillion in debt and you want to double down on spending and taxing?
You just don’t get it.
“Oh Danny Boy, Faux News is calling …
Head meet sand.
Oh, and I dropped cable years ago. Too busy reading about, discussing, and working on issues to watch TV.
$16 trillion in debt and the Republicans want to reduce revenue and increase spending (defense) … you just don’t get it.
maybe neither side gets it? maybe its time for a new paradigm?
Mine isn’t so catchy, but here’s what I don’t like about either: I don’t like the wars, the “Patriot” Act, NDAA, the Federal Reserve, trillions of dollars in debt, the war on drugs, the welfare state, corporate bailouts, or generally imposing your will on other people. But I do like liberty. Gary Johnson 2012!
You made some excellent points! Thanks!
Liberty ends where the next mans begins!
An island onto itself is a desert!
I do not like the ones that lie
I do not like the ones who try
I’m sick and tired of the same refrain
Or how we all are on the government train
This land’s not built by top on down
To hear such words just make me frown
Those that work from light til dark
They are the ones who build the park,
The roads, the schools, the tall skyscrapers
But if you believe what’s in the papers
“You didn’t build that”, it gives me vapors
To hear from BHB that we’re all set
And then to look at the country’s debt
I fear for my children that they are the one’s
Who will be forced to slavery for the cause of this ones
Personal pride which precedes a fall
I pray the nation can survive at all
I cannot say I like this decision
But I’ve seen 2016 and it’s time for revision
Perfectly stated!
What’s BHB ? If that’s suppose to be the President’s initials Rebecca needs to go back to school and get her GED.
So BHB stands dor Barack Hussein Obama. As in Saddam Hussein, who is dead? As in Osama bin Ladien, who is also dead? You can no longer gain any mileage with this Hussein jab. The Obama is a secret Muslim thing is over. If you think it isn’t, then you better hope Medicaid still covers anti-psychotic drugs.
It is his middle name isn’t it? I must admit to being mystified by the ‘BHB”. Maybe a typo. BHO would be ok.
And his first name is Biblical. look it up. Namesake was a hero.
Lots of names are Biblical. Doesn’t mean diddlysquat.
And just because “sunshine” is part of your screen name does not mean you are enlightened.
that is for sure….
Not enlightened, but wise. :)
Just trying to remain PC by not bringing up the Irish as in O’Bama. Never heard anyone complain about the F in JFK however. Or D in FDR, H in HHH, E in JEC, B in LBJ, J in WJC. Have you? Don’t you think that is rather strange? I think some people are trying to make an issue when none exists.
Here’s the point, just so it clear. If you want to use the initials of Barack Hussein Obama why don’t you type BHO instead of BHB. We all know what his middle name is and you got that right.
Cleaver what’s “BHB”?????
I think it was meant to be Obama
Since conservatives hate Obama so much, you’d think that they could get his initials right.
It was supposed to be BHO. The conservatives point out that his middle name is Hussein in an effort to send a racist undertone to their large, non-thinking base.
I guess I missed something. Someones middle name is racist? I think you think too much.
SO it must have been a conservative that named him! Dirty scheming Conservatives! They must have planned this all along!
Talk about non-thinking! Sounds like you stopped to think – and forgot to start again!
Then you don’t like many Rs, TPers, Faux News, and those commentators?
Perfectly stated !!!
Love both Dr. Seuss-ian comments! Thanks for the Saturday morning humor!
After carefully reading your spot-on prose
It’s truly sad how little obama knows!
You would think by now he’d have grown a brain
if he really cared about his people’s pain!
So in November, I agree with you
We need to tell obama to just go scr#w!
Please read:Published on DickMorris.com on September 7, 2012
Dear Friend,
Click Here To Sign The Petition To Increase Military Voter Turnout!
Even as First Lady Michelle Obama
eloquently addresses the needs of military families, her husband’s
Defense Department is cutting back on programs mandated by Congress to
increase military voter turnout.
In 2009, Congress passed the Military and Overseas
Voter Empowerment Act (MOVE) to stimulate turnout among active duty
military, in part, by establishing Installation Voter Assistance Offices
(IVAO) on each base to help military personnel vote. But, in a report
just issued by the Pentagon’s Inspector General, only about half of the
installations have voter assistance offices even though the MOVE Act
required them all to have them.
Why is the Obama Pentagon dragging its feet in
catalyzing a turnout of military voters? It is probably because they
would overwhelmingly back Romney if they were able to vote.
Among military veterans, Romney leads Obama by
58-34. One would assume that active duty military have a similar
inclination. In the 2000 cliff-hanger Gore/Bush election, Democrats
moved to exclude military absentee ballots from the Florida vote tally
because they skewed so heavily against them.
How outrageous is it that the Pentagon is failing to
implement a bi-partisan act of Congress designed to help those who
defend our freedom participate in it by voting on Election Day?
This Pentagon report comes on the heels of lawsuits
filed by the Democratic Party in Ohio to cut back the number of days
during which military personnel can cast absentee ballots. The Ohio
legislature had extended the period until the day before Election Day.
But the Democratic lawsuit is trying to cut it back to four days before
Election Day. Their suit is based on their contention that treating
military absentee ballots differently from other kinds of absentee
voting is discriminatory. But how easy is it to vote when you are in
the wilds of Afghanistan, out on patrol during the day, constantly on
the alert for snipers? These are obstacles most absentee voters don’t
face and the military are entitled to special efforts to make their
voting easier.
Please sign this petition to Michelle Obama, her
husband, and the Pentagon to insist that the Defense Department move
immediately to implement fully the requirements of the MOVE Act and
establish voter assistance centers on all military bases and
installations.
We(Dems) complain that ID’s for voting is unfair,what about this.-It’s not the first time-research about the 10.000-16,000 military votes not allowed to be counted in Florida during the last 12 years of the presidential elections .
I trust Obama to raise taxes.
God, I hope so. The last thirty years have seen more tax cuts than we can afford, and we’re asking our great-great-grandchildren to pay off the debts for us.
I’d GLADLY be willing to pay more taxes, if everyone else would pay more, to get us back on a meaningful federal budget, and start getting rid of our debt.Guess that makes me a conservative. I know, crazy, huh, a liberal in favor of a balanced budget.
Of all the problems facing this country, too many rich people is not one of them.
If we enact Obama’s recommendations, the money earned from raising taxes on the rich will fund the federal government for … eleven minutes! That is how fast we burn $45 billion these days.
Heaven help this country if we repeat the mistake that is Barack Obama.
I agree, to many rich people is not one of them. To many greedy people is.
We should all be paying the same tax rate, every man and woman earning a paycheck should be paying the same percentage of taxes, whether they make $4,000/yr, or $4,000,000,000.
Obama does not agree with you.
Somehow, I doubt he knows exactly what I think. But if I had a chance to talk to him, I’d tell him what I thought. :-)
Obama does not think that everyone should pay the same tax rate. I agree with you, but Obama does not.
That’s okay with me. :-)
Your idea would only make it harder on the poor. If people are already living below the poverty level why would you want to take more from them? The problem with most flat tax ideas is they are set up to tax peoples paychecks and give rich people who make their money from stocks and bonds a huge tax break because they are not taxed at the same rate as regular wages. Your idea would definitely make the rich, richer and the poor, poorer.
Oh yeah? With some of the largest pay ratios of CEOs to peons ever? With ridiculous bonuses paid for failure?
“Greed is good.” – Mitt “Gordon Gekko” Romney
You must have fainting spells from all your Obama worries. If romney is your medicine, then get ready to pass out big time.
There was a CBS report that concluded that between $21 to $32 Trillion dollars have been removed from the US Economy and parked in offshore accounts. What either party could have done if not for the greed of a bunch of rich people.
How about lots of the Stimulus money being outsourced? Now let’s see. Whose watch did that occur under?
The original bill for the stimulus required that all the money be spent on goods made in America. The Republican’s said nope not gonna happen, you have to take out the Made in America language or we will filibuster the stimulus.
Why would they do that if they truly love America and want what is best for it?
Absolutely not true…. why else did Democrats want to give tax credits to GE for opening up production in Chin. Where do you get this stuff?
Besides there was little no support for the stimulus in any form from Republicans. Look at the Vote.
“The stimulus bill passed by the House last night contains a controversial
provision that would mostly bar foreign steel and iron from the infrastructure
projects laid out by the $819 billion economic package…..”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/28/AR2009012804002.html
If you read the article you will notice that there was “Buy American” language in the House version and originally the Senate version. It was taken out so that the Republican filibuster could be overridden and the two bills passed. The fact that not one Repuvlican voted for the final bill shows that the Republican’s did not nor do they want to do anyting to help the American People while Obama is in office.
Another article…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/business/21buy.html?pagewanted=all
In other words the fact that they did not vote for the bill is proof that they supported it. Twisted.
Your first article made no mention of a Republican filibuster. It fact it made no mention of Republicans at all. I am not sure what you think that is proof of but it does not support anything you said.
Your second article again makes no mention of a Republican filibuster at all.You just made up a bunch of stuff.
“…U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa, said he is prepared to filibuster the
proposed economic stimulus bill, but fears enough Republicans will side with
Senate Democrats to override any attempt to block the bill’s passage….”
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_02/016715.php
So What…? That is not proof that they threatened to filibuster over the Buy American provision. It doesn’t say why at all. Besides, when the Stimulus bill was signed by Obama on Feb 17th 2009 The Dems had a filibuster proof majority. It was all bluster which was all the Republicans could do…. No filibuster vote was ever taken. Give me the vote totals if i am incorrect.
In February 2009 the Democrats did not have a filibuster-proof majority. Al Franken was not allowed to take his Senate seat until June of 2009 leaving the Democrats with 59 seats not a filibuster proof 60 seats.
Plus Sen. Kennedy was not able to attend all of the Senate’s votes because of health issues.
As I said earlier the provision for Buy American was taken out prior to the vote to remove the Republican THREAT of a filibuster, which the Democrats did not have enought votes to over-ride.
Where do you get your stuff from?
Tax Credits for GE have been around since 2000 giveing them tax breaks. You cna’t blame that on Obama.
The green energy credits were part of the stimulus bill. They allowed GE tax credits for investment in Green tech. They used the money to open a plant in China. They paid no income tax last year in part because of those credits.
GE didn’t pay taxes since 2006 to 2011. I guess we should blame Obama for the years 2006 to 2009 as well?
“…From 2006 to 2011, GE’s net federal income taxes have been negative $2.7 billion, despite $39.2 billion in pretax U.S. profits over the six years….”
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/02/27/433250/general-electric-tax-rate-decade/
I see so what happened before allows Obama to extend tax credits to GE for jobs created In China…. have to love your logic.
Now there’s a load!
You did not read your own article. Start with the fact that $21 trillion did not come out of the US economy. It is in your article. You are misrepresenting what the article said.
Well I agree with your first sentence. Too many rich people are not the problem.
Perhaps you do not know that fewer and fewer people have more and more of the money in this country and that gap keeps growing. Unless you are one of the lucky few you are a fool to follow the Republican propaganda which is designed to keep the rich richer.
I just can’t wait to give the government more of my hard earned income. I suppose giving them 24k of it last year wasn’t enough.
That’s about what I gave them last year too.
And I guarantee I work hard too.
You should look into some of Mitt’s tax avoidance schemes… I guarantee you would save a great deal if you had his tax attorneys working for you.
They can’t be as good as Rochelle’s tax dodgers. When is the occupy North Haven rally?
Donald Sussman does the exact same thing. So does the Kennedy clan, George Mitchell, Bill Clinton and any rich person, democrat or republican. Obama had two chances to flush those tax cuts down the toilet and he couldn’t muster the courage to do so. That’s no leader, that’s a coward.
Obama had to work with the obstructionist do-nothing Republican Senators.
He compromised with Republicans, in order to keep unemployment benefits for the out of work he had to keep the tax cuts for the rich to appease the Republican’s.
Republican Senators thought it was more important that the richest people in the country did not get a small tax increase of 3% then out of work people keep their benefits a little longer so that they could find work.
No, he didn’t have the courage to fight the fight. He is no leader and needs to go.
keep trying…
Mitt sure is a fighter!
He went to Paris to fight for his religion, while the rest went to Vietnam!
He fought like heck to get out of the conflict!
“Donald Sussman does the exact same thing.” And you know that because you’ve seen Donald Sussman’s taxes. So than why can we see Mitt’s taxes? Does Mitt have something to hide?
I think that he did in fact release a tax return. I have not seen Donnie’s tax returns but he does the exact same thing and I know this because all rich people try to avoid paying as much tax as they legally can. And you can spin things however you wish to make it sound like you democrats pay more than you should for the good of the country but you don’t, and neither do republicans. To do so would be stupid.
Obama could have fixed this and he chose not to.
blah blah blah
So you admit that you have not seen Donald Sussman’s tax returns.
So how can you know what Donald Sussman does with his taxes if you’ve never seen them?
What other lies are you telling?
Well he is doing it now with incomes over $250 so what is your beef.
I did not know that Sussman was running for office.
You are sounding like a republican plant.
So your position is Romney should voluntarily pay more income tax than he is legally obligated to pay? And the Donald Sussman’s of the world should not because they are not running for office? How about Obama’s treasury chief, a tax cheat that settled his debt in order to become the boss of the tax system. A tax cheat in the top position. I suppose that is okay though.
again, you post nonsense
He tried with the Simpson-Bowles deal and the wonderful Ryan was the deciding vote to bury it and now he blames it on Obama. You Republicans amaze me with your lies.
Did you ever hear of a thing called VETO?
It is hard to veto something that does not pass both houses.
you really do not understand how congress works…. the veto has no place in this conversation
The whole thing is a Card Game, when you know the odds of your hand are poor you have to bluff or fold!
Don’t forget Tim Geithner, Obama’s tax-cheat-in-chief.
Depends. How honest were you? Can we trust you?
I have never cheated on my taxes, period. How about all the filthy rich Democrats? You seem to act as though they are honest about their taxes? This is a group of people that never get lumped into the conversation. For starters, Jeffery Immelt hasn’t paid taxes in a long time. Whats his excuse? I know, he’s an ardent supporter of Obama.
And the filthy rich Rs?
And speaking of taxes, when will we see Romney’s.
The I.R.S. has seen them. If they have any issues, they will surely be knocking on his door.
Well guess what, the IRS is not electing the next president.
My point is that he has probably paid whatever taxes were owed, otherwise the I.R.S. will deal with it. Like it or not, he is not required to release more than he has.
No he is not required to release more. He has released the minimum. His father George Romney released 12 years when he was running for president. He said then that to do less would not give the country a complete honest picture.
This is not about whether how he handled his money was illegal but whether it was ethical. In fact there are many questions about this, off shore accounts, an IRA with 100 million in it that was transferred to Ann just before he began his campaign.
He has not been transparent and as a presidential candidate he should be.
I am okay with what is legal and required. And you have every right to want to see what you think should be or is ethical, in your view. So, we differ.
Thank you. I appreciate your response and we can agree to disagree.
BTW my vote to return the President to office is not because I have not seen Mr. Romney’s returns.
I understand. I don’t have a problem with anyone supporting the President, even though I do not. Our elected officials are flawed – every one of them. Our nation is very divided and our political parties reflect that reality, as do the comments posted on this forum.
Again thanx, am wondering why you would vote for Romney.
I think Romney has much stronger leadership and persuasive skills than Obama has that are needed to overcome the partisanship and divisiveness in Washington. I have reservations about both of them. Our problems are immense and the prescribed solutions by the two parties are so opposite that it is hard to imagine the great gulf being bridged. I think we outgrew the two-party system long ago, but big money and corruption on both sides, still give us limited choices. That summarizes my view of current America. I still believe in our greatness and in our ability to overcome. But, I will still admit that it is hard to see such brighter days ahead through the fog of what we now see from Washington and the void of leadership in all directions.
Got it. We can agree on too much money in government on both sides. On who would be better to lead the country we will continue to disagree. I have seen Romney’s policies and really believe them to be harmful. We can disagree on that as well.
One reason America remains a great country. We each get to vote our individual conscience.
I asked in my post below because as you say, this country is so polarized and as a Democrat I have considered voting for Republicans but there is no way having followed Romney that I could vote for him. In the beginning of this campaign season I thought that it would not be so bad if Romney won but I sure do not feel that way now.
We will see Romney’s tax return when we see Obama’s collge admission forms. The thinking is that Obama lists himself as a foriegn exchange student.
very funny, grades and millions….. I do not believe the foreign exchange BS another attempt to characterize Obama as ‘the other’ or foreign, not like us, not a real american… the pathetic list goes on and on…
Since Republicans think that corporations are people, I’d rather see Exxon’s college admissions form!
If you make more than 250K per year, you can afford to pay what you paid under Reagan. I think all net income over 250K should be subject to 50% federal income tax, including capital gains. Anything over 1 million should be 75% tax, and over 2 million should be 90%. So there. And also, there should be no ceiling on Medicare taxes. All income should be subject to Medicare contribution. Period. Any argument against this makes you a greedy pig.
But it’s okay for the government to be a greedy pig and confiscate the vast majority of a person’s earnings on an increasing scale.
Even at the highest tax bracket, which really rich people DO NOT pay, the government does not take the “vast majority” of a person’s earnings. For the math impaired 35% is less than half.
My remark was in reply to chopchopchop’s proposed tax plan, not existing rates.
The tax rates in this country are at a 50 year low.
Sure it is. It’s OK! This country did well enough for the many decades when we had progressive taxation. It was only after the Reagan Revolution that the deficit began to skyrocket. Do you realize that all the money that comprises the current US national debt came from the tax cuts that were instituted since 1980? If greedy rich people had continued to pay a fair rate since that time, yes, 50, 60 or 70%, we would not have ANY national debt today. Now, they’re the ones who are squealing louder than anyone else about the terrible debt, and how our grandchildren are going to have to pay it back… more crocodile tears. They got theirs, and that’s all they really care about. They’re not going to be relying on the safety net, because they can pay cash for everything they need, don’t even require insurance, and certainly not social security.
That is another point, I forgot to make earlier, that the rich should not even be allowed to collect social security, even though they may have paid into it all their lives. They don’t need it.
I will pass on your vision of such a greedy government. Perhaps you can find some takers among progressives that post on this forum.
A government is reflective of it’s citizens. If the citizens are greedy, and run up huge credit card debt, then the government has to squeeze it back out of them, make them disgorge what they’ve taken. It only makes sense to go after that money where it is, in the hands of the 1% who took it. Believe me, if the government thought it could take it from poor people, it would. But they don’t own anything! You can’t get blood from a stone.
Now rich pols like Romney and Ryan think that they can squeeze it out of poor people some other way, by eliminating labor regulations, like minimum wage, or forcing poor people off Medicare, but the American people aren’t going to stand for that. We have worked too hard and too long to stand by while billionaires force us back onto the plantations while massa’s up on the porch sipping his mint julep. Pass that vision on to someone, too.
Like I said before, I will pass on your vision – meaning, no thanks – not meaning passing it on to anyone else. Sorry I wasn’t more clear. You and I see things very differently.
What the heck are you talking about? That sounds like a jealous rant to me. And I am not rich, so don’t even try to go there.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to be the one sitting on the porch holding the mint julep. I wouldn’t want to go through life watching my back, wondering when they are going to bring back the guillotine. By the way, I am not personally on food stamps either, I know that would be your next assumption.
People do on occasion speak out from something other than self-interest.
Just wondering…who do you consider rich? Just how much money does it take to be rich?
That depends on how deep of poverty everybody else is in. If I have ten times your money, but you still have a lot, more than enough to live on, then we’re both rich. But if I can’t afford to feed myself, and you have more food than you can eat, then you are rich, and common decency compels you to share. It’s all relative.
I think people should consider themselves “rich”, not by how much money they have or don’t have, but rather, by what they have that money can’t buy. For me, I love my family, friends, home, work, and many countless small blessings every day. If a person has more money than they need, I do believe it is honorable to share. But IT IS NOT THE LAW OF THE UNITED STATES! All of us pay taxes. And do not doubt for one moment that even one person wants to pay more than is required by law. That includes you, me, and every politician in this country. It includes members in the House, and in the Senate, and the President and Vice President of the United States. It also includes, the aspiring president and vice president. Now, I’m willing to bet that you would not call Obama or Biden greedy,”care less” people, would you? But they ARE rich, in monetary terms. In the eyes of many, they are “good” because they are Democrats. So, through your comments, you depict that rich Democrats are “good”, and rich Republicans are “bad”, no matter who they are, or how they make their money, or how they spend it, or how much they pay in taxes, or how much they give to others. In terms of sharing, I am sorry to tell you, that Romney wins, hands down, and that is in the percentage of what he has shared as compared to Obama. Obama wants everyone else to share more of what they have. Does that seem reasonable to you?
Isn’t how we spend our own money no one else’s business?
Romney gives to his church,how much I don’t know, but we do know that Obama gave away his million dollar Nobel Peace Prize winnings. Obama’s wealth is miniscule compared to Romney’s so ,all things considered , I would say Mr. Obama is a pretty generous guy.
He gave it away cause he didnt earn it. Look at what he made on his own and what he gave of HIS money No he isnt that generous and Crazy Joe is even worse. Liberals are good at spending OTHER peoples money
Obama gave his “much earned” Nobel Peace Prize money because historically, that is that the winners do!
As far as charitable giving, Romney has given 15% of his money consistently.
Obama, from 2000 to 2004 gave away less than 1.4 %. Not until he first entered politics, to run for the Senate did he begin his donations. (Guess it would look bad if he didn’t.) In 2004 he gave a nominal amounts to various churches but gave generous amounts to Jeremiah Wright in 2006-07. From 2000 – 2011, he gave a low of .4% to as much as 21.8% (includes his “peace” prize). His pre-politics years donations were less than 1%.
His average overall is 6.9 %, most SINCE becoming president. (Must be because people are “watching”…….)
Romney, based on the expectations of his religion gave his 10 %, but based on the generosity of his heart, gave another 5%.
What was it you said about Obama’s generosity, percent wise, compared to Romney?
It is very easy to say that the true measure of one’s wealth is how much love he has in his life, or good health, but when you and your children don’t have enough money to buy food from one week to the next, it is hard to focus on your other blessings. That is where society steps in, and says, “we don’t want to have people starving and freezing to death in their beds in the winter, it is a national security issue, or at least a national embarrassment. We are going to compel those who have more than they need to subsidize the others, even though they may not want to.”
What people give to outside of taxes is their business. It has nothing to do with taxes or what society decides democratically needs to be a priority. From what I understand, churches spend their tithes mostly on themselves, and increasing their membership.
Does the phrase “promote the general welfare” ring a bell?
Anyone who writes such vapid socialist rubbish should be hunted down and have their envious fundaments flogged in the public square.
Nice to see you express such all-american ideals!
Another vacuous comment that says absolutely nothing. Anyone with two functioning neurons could come up with a more clever retort.
I don’t have a clever retort. But it sure sounds as if you are a graduate of the Naran Row-Spalding school of superfluous English. I dropped out.
Vapid how ?
Thats just silly. Who wants to earn something through hardwork or thought and have it stolen from them at those rates? Those who have tha capability to earn in that capacity wouldn’t do it.
Sure they would. They’ve done so throughout the last 60 years or more, without any problem at all, until Reagan and his disciples began preaching a gospel of antigovernment. People work and create and succeed because they have a sense that they want to leave the country a better more secure place for future generations, not in order to aggrandize themselves with car elevators or dancing horses.
You are absolutely right… The income needed before income taxes are charged has been rising for decades. Many millions that would have been charged taxes in the past now escape them… to the tune of nearly 50% of the population. Everyone should contribute something to the federal discretionary revenue pool.
But those 50%, which is not accurate because it considers the tax rate in 2008-2009 when the country was losing jobs at a rate of 750,000 per month, pay an overall bigger percentage of their income to taxes than the Romney’s of the world.
Sales taxes, payroll taxes (7.65%, 15.4% if you consider the portion paid by the employer, of a person’s wages up to $104,000), excise taxes and myriad other fees and taxes take a much larger percentage out of the working poor’s and Middle Classes income then they do the rich.
Most who work contribute to the non-discretionary revenue pool with fica and medicare.. Outside of fuel taxes they contribute nothing to the federal discretionary revenue pool. Because of the tax holiday that is far less for the past two years. Sales taxes are state.
It makes no difference to the person struggling to make ends meet whether the tax is Federal or State. They still pay taxes.
The poster said…. “The last thirty years have seen more tax cuts than we can afford, and
we’re asking our great-great-grandchildren to pay off the debts for us.”
I was agreeing with that sentiment. Do you disagree?
I agree that we have seen more tax cuts then we can afford but I doubt we agree on who should have their taxes increased more.
In the past 30 years, the cost of living in this country have increased dramatically. The lower 50% cannot afford to get taxed more then theyare already and even hope to maintain thier current standard of living. The Rich, on the other hand, have seen their wealth double and in some cases triple or more in the same amount of time while their taxes have decreased from over 50% to, in some cases, less than 15%.
I read somewhere, I can’t remember exactly where, that the rich in this country ahve socked away over $30 to $50 Trillion in off shore accounts to avoid paying taxes on them, not just to the US Treasury but most other countries as well. This is the root cause of the economic problems of the World, not just the US. Money earned by the work of the many taken out of circulation by the few.
This is not where I read it but it is interesting.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500395_162-57477527/report-worlds-rich-hide-at-least-$21t-offshore/
Do a Google search for Off-shore accounts. If you love America I think it will sadden you.
Why do you suppose money when possible flows offshore? Why does it stay offshore…?
Because the owner of the money feels that they should not pay taxes on money earned,that somehow because they are rich they shouldn’t have to pay taxes on their income.
Why do you think money flows offshore and stays there? And why do you think it is not un-American to do so?
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Donald-Marron/2011/0728/Why-do-half-of-Americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax….. yup, because the large share of the 50% is POOR or on the edge of poor. This is a tired old argument the wealthy like to use. Working full-time at a salary of around $32,000 I pay taxes because I have paid off my house, my children are adults, no medical bills to speak of. So do not tell me low income folks don’t pay taxes. We do.
Of course. Over the last 35 years the threshold of when someone starts to pay taxes has risen. You cannot deny that. Its fact.
You cannot deny that over the past 35 years, the rich have seen their taxes drop by more than 50% and their wealth increase by over 300%. It’s a fact.
I have trouble talking with folks like you because you speak as if money & wealth and income are interchangeable terms. They are not. They all mean and imply something different. I also believe that you think that because someone was financially ok at one point and is no longer so that means some rich person took their money as if money is some static number and that dollar amount was moved to the rich guys account. Of course it wasn’t. Our basic understanding of our terms seems to be a barrier to our communication.
Start with your statement above. You use “wealth” as if you do not understand that the number represents many things. Much of which may not be taxable to begin with. Home, stock appreciation unrealized for instance.
You say taxes have dropped by more than 50% over the last 35 years. Yet tax revenue as a percentage of GDP has held fairly steady at an average of 18% over the last 35 years or so. (It is currently 14.5% because incomes are down) That means your statement is untrue otherwise that number would be closer to 9%.
Yes,I understand the difference between income and wealth. For example my income is greater than my wealth because I basically live from paycheck to paycheck (like the majority of Americans) and I am unable to take advantage of all the lovely money making and tax saving benefits that the rich have.
I should have said that the tax rate that the richest American’s pay has been cut in half but I think you knew what I meant.
By the way I am still waiting for the answer to my earlier question. Why do you think money flows offshore and stays there? And why do you think it is not un-American to do so?
I really doubt that your income is greater than your wealth. Look at the computer in front of you. Look at your possessions. Do a total. Compare.
I can’t answer your question because our experiences are too different and you already predetermined my answer for me.
Due to inflation? Or something else. Kind of like a cola operates?
No More like what Reagan did with putting in the EIC and Bush II did with changing the rate structure so the poor would not have to pay taxes.
The income and power gap keeps growing and still there are those who bemoan that the poor do not pay enough taxes.
Now there’s a bunch of BS.
Then what’s stopping you? Put YOUR money where your mouth is! Pay more! No one says you can’t! Prove your stupidity – send more than you owe!
Hypocrite!
I don’t. I voted for him the first time because he promised to let the Bush tax cuts expire and then lobbied to keep them, not once but twice. He also cut the social security tax rate helping to speed up the bankruptcy of that part of government. His first four years are a disaster and I would vote for Joe the Plumber before ever trusting him and voting for him again.
I would vote for Cynthia Dill before I would vote for BO…
Having read your posts I am skeptical that you did actually vote for the President. If you did then you should know that your points are not accurate and that if your concerns are what you say they are then you would be a fool to vote for any Republican.
One fact, he did not shorten the life of SS. Try changing the channel to anything but faux news which I fear is where you are getting your misinformation.
I do hope that you were joking about the plumber.
It is necessary to raise taxes/reduce tax cuts. Even Reaganomics allowed for tax increases.
Reagan was opposed to raising taxes but during his tenure he did raise taxes because it was necessary for the country to survive. He increased self-employment taxes and increased payroll taxes as a “reform”. He also closed some loopholes. None of these measures were marketed as tax increases but they increased taxes nonetheless.
Yes, but not on those with incomes under $250.00. Why is that wrong.
You trusting a democrat is like asking a fox if they like the taste of chicken. I’m sure there is not or never has been a Republican you do trust. So your poem as snappy it may seem, is quite predictable.
It is unfortunate that you can’t appreciate the achievements that Romney has earned during his business career. It is very sad to see how many people have turned their backs on the free enterprise system that fueled the level of prosperity that has made the United States a great nation. Hopefully people who hold views similar to yours will eventually realize that collectivist thinking is not going to sustain the United States economically, and will ultimately serve to weaken us as a country.
All you have to do is listen to Romney and eventually he will agree with both sides of an issue many times over. Very trustworthy fellow, that one.
He is a vulture capitalist and his work has been helpful to no one but to himself and his cronies and of course to the Mormon Church.
As a governor he did not leave Ma. in better shape, except for healthcare that he now disowns.
Religious bigotry and anti-capitalism in one package? It’s nice what some of you have become.
Not at all anti- religious or anti-capitalist. Just pointed out where his money went. It seems to me that there is a good deal that you do not know about this man . Perhaps you know all you need to and that your main vote this election will be against the President.
Am really wondering if you tag is a joke.
I’d be more that happy to read about Romney’s achievements, please list them for me. Could you also tell me how his Swiss and Cayman Island bank accounts and Bain Capital’s outsourcing of jobs are going to get this county back on track. Thanks in advance!
Let’s see, he turned around the Salt Lake Olympics. He built a very successful business in Bain Capital, which produced positive results for Staples, Sports Authority, and Steel Dynamics, just to name a few. That alone is far more than anything that Obama has ever done.
This is what I heard that Bain Capital did for the economy while making Myth Romney rich:
Job Eliminated by Bain Capital
1. American Pad & Paper (Ampad)- Jobs Lost: 1,500 in California, Dallas and Indiana
2. DADE Behring- Jobs Lost: at least 2,937 in Massachusetts and Florida
3. Stage Stores- Job lost: 15,700 in 331 stores closed
4. GST Steel (GS Technology in 1993)- Job Lost: 7505. DDI Corporation- 2,100 Jobs lost.
6. KB Toys – 15,000 workers lose their jobs in 365 stores closed
7. Alliance Entertainment – Jobs lost: 550 from distribution centers in California, Colorado, Texas and Miami.
8. AMF Bowling – Job Loss: 271 jobs from centers in California, Colorado, Texas, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin and Indiana.
9. Holson Burnes – in New Hampshire, Somerville, Massachusetts, laid off 294 workers.
10. FTD – Closed an office in Boston, Massachusetts and laid off workers. 205 jobs loss.
11. ADAP/Auto Palace: Eliminated 20 jobs
12. Closings Ltd.: Eliminated 30 jobs
13. EduServ Technologies: Eliminated 400 jobs
14. GT Bicycles: Eliminated 100 jobs loss
15. Handbag Holdings: Eliminated 206 jobs
16. The Learning Company: Eliminated 500 jobs
17. LIVE Entertainment: Eliminated 40 jobs
18. Midwest Of Cannon Falls: Eliminated 40 jobs
19. MotherCare Stores: Eliminated 100 jobs
20. Physio Control: Eliminated around 120 jobs
21. Transtar: Eliminated 1,000 jobs
22. Waters Lab Technologies: Eliminated 70 jobs
23. Wesley Jessen: Eliminated 600 jobs
24. SMTC Corp. – Cut jobs and moved production from Denver to Chihuahua, Mexico.
25. Mattress Discounters – Closed stores and distribution center around Denver.
26. Boulder-based NetLibrary – Cut jobs, before going bankrupt
27. Alliance Laundry Systems – Eliminated jobs in Wisconsin, Ohio
28. Cambridge Industries- Closed an Ionia plant and laid off workers in Michigan.
29. Florists’ Transworld Delivery – Shut down an office in Southfield, Michigan laying off workers.
30. Stream International- In Crawfordsville, Indiana laid off workers and shut down its distribution center.
31. Sealy —North America’s largest mattress manufacturer—moved its Cleveland headquarters out of state and laid off workers.
32. Gold Medal – Cut about 30% of its total workforce in Virginia.
33. Totes Inc.- Eliminated jobs at a plant in Blair, Virginia
34. Damon Corp- Cut jobs and shut down a plant in Needham Heights, Massachusetts
35. Corporate Software- Laid off ……workers and closed an office, California.
http://www.firedbybain.org/#!
Did the stockholders of those companies see positive results from these actions? The harsh reality of capitalism is that companies often need to adjust their employee levels. If they don’t, they will fail.
Did the employees see positive results from those closings?
Yes, they left a company that was run poorly to find work at a better place. 93% of those employees reported that they found better employment elsewhere after Bain cut them loose.
It is common knowledge that people who lose their jobs thru downsizing do not find better jobs.
“…U. S. Labor Department figures “show that now only about 35% of laid-off full-time workers end up in equally remunerative or better paid jobs”
http://www.mannmuseum.com/downsizing/
On Edit…
And that was in the 1990’s with a better economy
What is common knowledge?
If you read the rest of my post you would have been able to answer that yourself. Workers who lose their jobs as a result of massive layoffs do not find better jobs on average. Around 35% find jobs of equivilent pay or better, not 93% like you claimed.
“93% of those employees reported that they found better employment elsewhere after Bain cut them loose”
Is that a fact we can verify or did the voices in your head tell you that?
I’m sorry. I was wrong. It was actually 96%. This information was from a report that came directly from the U.S. Department of Labor. You can Google it.
You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on. – George W. Bush
Nice to see you keeping the spirit of ‘W’ alive! Thanks for the laugh!
Here you are quite simplistic with your ‘logic’. Bain et al made billions. It is true that companies go bust but Bain busted them by leveraging their debt and then letting them fail . A scam that the mob could learn from.
You might be interested to know that in each instance Bain did not honor the pensions etc. of any of the people who were fired. Bain made billions, do you not think that the honorable thing to do would have been to honor the pensions. It would have been but a pittance to Bain. That is why what they did is called vulture capitalism. Is that what you are endorsing.
Unfortunately for those employees, their companies did not manage their money very well, and some of the pension funds had to be used to fund other obligations. That is precisely why that type of pension is very rare today, since the employee does not control those funds. I endorse bringing efficiency back into the marketplace, even if there is pain involved along the way. Obama’s approach just alienates business, which is why the economy is still stagnant. You may not like that fact that some at the top make a ton of money in business, but at least they create employment for the working class, who Obama’s policies have hurt the most.
Yes, the funds went to the vultures. The vultures could have chosen to honor the obligations rather than to line their own pockets. They made billions. There was money to do the right thing. They chose to do the wrong thing. They raped the companies and screwed the workers. You can twist all you want but that is what they did.
What is your source for this information? MSNBC, DNC? Sounds like some major generalizations on your part?
here is but 1,
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829
He turned around the Olympics with Federal money, and his friends got rich off it.
He made money at Bain Capital that caused the loss of jobs at GS Industries, KBToys, Dade International, DDi Corporation and many more companies.
He made money from Stericycle, a company that made money disposignof aborted fetus’
Thanks, this is a new one on me! The Republican nominee for President of the United States invested in a company that disposes of aborted fetuses!
Isn’t abortion against the Republican platform? I guess as long as you can make money off of it who cares if it’s against your political or religious beliefs.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/romney-bain-abortion-stericycle-sec
Flake.
Good poetry. Maybe you should stick to that. At least Mitt Romney doesn’t surround himself with communists and socialists. Barack Obama has been influenced by these people since his childhood. He seeks them out. He is anti-American & we will all suffer for his viewpoints if he is re-elected.
Glad you liked the poetry, I think your conspiracy theory is a bunch of Republican talking points that have absolutely no basic in fact. If you had any proof you’d have provided a link to back up your statement.
You sure have a lot of time on your hands now that the welfare checks a flowing!
I trust Obama more to tell us the hard truths, not necessarily what we want to hear. I do not see him shifting his positions to fit what is popular as Mr. Romney has consistently done. I have seen how Romney campaigned and ran things in Massachusetts and he did not impress me then, and he does not impress me now. It does not help that Mr. Ryan is less than honest, though the VP candidate is a lesser consideration for me than who would I rather see as President.
Ryan can’t be trusted to tell the truth when it comes to his marathon time or the number of over 14,000 ft peaks he has climbed in Colorado.
What else is he continuing to lie about?
The American public is going to see just how bad a set of liars the Romney/Ryan ticket is. They have never run a national campaign and all of the stupid lies they have told will come back to haunt them.
Exactly.
TWO is the size of Paul Ryan’s Congressional record. In his 13 years in Congress, he got only two bills passed. One was to change the name of the post office in his home town and the other, was to modify the excise tax on arrows used in archery. Sounds like just what the economy doesn’t need.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ryan/passedbills.asp
But….but…. he’s the rising star of the Republican Party.
Who do I trust more? Romney…he isn’a a marxist.
I trust that Homer has no idea what the word Marxist means.
I sure do….O B A M A. And if you are one
enlighten me. It is okay to admit it, O B A M A
was mentored by a communist, even told you
he hung with marxists and radicals but NONE
of that ever influenced him….nawwwwww.
Thanks for confirming.
,
You do nopt have a clue. Not even .00000001% of a clue.
Hey…glad to help out one of the sheep to
come to grips that their community organizer
has snowed them. I see you did some homework
and showed the percent of ACTUAL jobs created
too. Good for you, I know it must be hard to have
to defend an incompetant person who makes you look dumb.
Harpo, or Groucho?
Hmmm…..are you referring to Obama
or yourself? Either or gets my vote for
Harpo and that is being kind.
That should go on a poster: “Romney’s Only Claim to Fame–Not a Marxist!”
Some endorsement. Oh, guess what. The President isn’t a Marxist either.
You are so right there Homer …. Trust that he’s closer to ….
Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini in his political leanings.
Obama is about as marxist as Reagan.
at least under marxist ideals we would all have a job. maybe we would be living 20 families to a house and be living off of bread and water but at least we’d all have jobs and be equally miserable lolz.
That’s the way we were under Reagan?
neither…
next article please.
I think Romney’s convoluted or veiled message is that if you vote for him you will get to keep all your money. Sounds great! Sign me up, right after I wire my grandson $5000 bail so he can get out of that Dominican jail.
Neither.
I trust Ozero about as far as I can spit!
Who?
If you have to ask, you wouldn’t understand.
Of Obama and Romney, whom do I trust? Nobody is perfect but I believe Romney is an honorable man who understands the meaning of ‘do unto others.’ He’s proven that to be the case. Obama can’t go to lunch at Kenny’s BBQ on Capitol Hill without skipping out on the bill.
http://now.msn.com/obama-skips-on-bill-after-meal-about-responsible-parenting
I trust Romney too ….. to support elements of nationalism, corporatism, national syndicalism, expansionism, in combination with censorship of subversives and state propaganda.
Well said and thank you for decency here. It is interesting to see the mindless who love Obama. It also shows a serious need for better education.
Given the candidates, trust may not be a very useful criterion. How about competence at governing, instead? Romney didn’t make too great a muddle in Massachusetts, certainly nothing like the mess Obama has allowed the Republicans in Congress to foist upon him.
(That’s if you buy the “evil obstructionist Republicans” line: otherwise the mess is of Obama’s own making. Weak and incompetent or strong and incompetent, take yer choice.)
I think Americans will pick Romney, not out of any great trust but because he’s not a failed president, yet.
Great. Who made the less “muddle”? Consider the scale of the US vs. Mass. Think of how much more of a muddle he’d make as President>
The answer is to vote in Democrats across the country. Oh, and I would suggest that you learn the policies of each candidate.
Agreed. The party’s recent history of transparency, honest deals openly arrived at and successful government management makes the Democrats the only possible choice.
Massachusetts was the first state to pass Obamacare while Romney was governor. I’m not sure why everybody calls it Obamacare when it was Mitt Romney who was the first to implement it.
This story defines the Obama administration as well as any and it happened today.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5f7_1347028833 At the University of Iowa, Obama’s advance team placed an enormous American flag on the ground – a violation of Section 8 of the American Flag Code. Another crystal clear example of this administration’s disregard for America. Remember when Michelle was caught on video mouthing the words, “All this for a damn flag?” during a 9/11 ceremony? That says it all, really.
Wrap yourself in a Flag while soldiers die fighting for Haliburtin!
Brilliant!
I thought the One was going to bring all the soldiers home. What happened?
He forgot, or he told a bunch of lies to get elected. take your pick.
They are home and coming home. The Iraq war is over and the Afghanistan war is ending responsibly.
I have a friend whose son was deployed there this week. See, you shouldn’t believe what Obama tells you.
I did not say that the war was over I said that it is ending and that service people are coming home. I hope that your friends son stays safe, but he is not a refute to what is happening.
If Romney wins he has promised to continue the war in Afghanistan. Maybe that is what you want.
do you know what you actually wrote/ do you have any proof of your statement?
Odd that we did not even hear that on MSNBC or CBS.
with all the nonsense from your confused head that you are espousing here I doubt that you hear anything..
Sir, unlike the wing nuts on the right those not affiliated with wing nut hubbubery are capable of independent thought, I’m sure that comes as a surprise to the “right and the witless”
When you are busy making beer in the basement you often lose track of the time.
How totally vulgar as today we in Maine bury a soldier . Time to grow up and see the truth about Barry. And Moochelle in her designer duds, has pure balls telling women that Thrift shops are a great place to shop. Real women already knew that. Real women and Real Men see through the manure in DC.
For the w♀men that may be thinking about voting Republican. For Todd Akin from Missouri:
You can get pregnant in a car.
You can get pregnant in a bar.
You can get pregnant on a hill.
You can get pregnant on the pill.
You can get pregnant near or far,
it doesn’t matter who you are.
You can get pregnant in a house.
You can get pregnant by a louse.
You can get pregnant here or there.
You can get pregnant anywhere.
In a plane or on a train,
in a box or with a fox.
Standing up or sitting down,
it matters not when sperm’s around.
You can get pregnant if you’re raped,
science truths you can’t escape.
I do not like the awful lies
that hurt the ones whom it implies
can control their conception
through “legitimate rape” sperm detection.
You should not lead our sacred land,
if anti-science is your plan.
I do not like what you are sayin’,
I do not like it, Mr Akin.
It was the Republicans to lose, dependending on how they projected their agenda, platform and candidate.
They blew it on all three fronts. Start with blatant racism, display no consistency between their candidates beliefs and get caught time after time in misinformation and outright lies. They’ve got no one to blame but themselves.
Do not forget their pathetic slate that lead to the Romney /Ryan ticket.
I dont really trust either of these men. They are politicians so in effect they both lie through their teeth, but i believe this country owes President Obama another four years. He did what Bush couldnt do in 8 years and got Bin Laden. He also took out some other huge name terrorists. He has had trouble with the debt but that belongs as much to Bush as it does to him. It takes time to right the ship and job numbers are up, spending is up, and the economy seems to be on the right foot so why allow Romney to get in there and put us in a huge recession that will only prosper his rich buddies on Wall Street. Romney wants this country to become a moral morman state where they tell ya what to do, when to do it, and how it should be done. I dont believe much in that type of government. I gotta give Barrack Four more to see if he can get the job done, then if he doesnt…Hopefully Hillary will come in to save us….Cause i dont see that the GOP has anything better to offer than Romney.
“Trust” MittTwit RobMe? That is a laugh and a half. He is the consumate FLIP FLOPPER. Choice Rights? FLIPFLOP. Gay rights? FLIPFLOP. Women’s rights? FLIPFLOP. Moderate in his politics? FLIPFLOP. Global Warming? FLIPFLOP. Healthcare reform? FLIPFLOP. American intervention which helped take out Kaddaffi in Libya? FLIPFLOP. And that fact that he LIES day and night, has NO plan for the economy except stealing from the poor and middle class and giving to the rich, that he hides his tax returns, that he shelters his money in the Caymans and Bermuda, that he is a corporate toadie job killer, that his VP pick does not know how to tell the truth…You can’t trust MittTwit as far as you can throw him.
©2012 DNC Lies Inc.
Esp since the president still has the same position on immigration, drilling, nuclear power, and SSM that he had when he came into office.
Yup. Barry has nothing new nor does he have any plan to get America back on track. If he remains in office the country is doomed. I fear we will have a total economic collapse if he stays in office.
Go ahead refute the lies with links please?
Where do you come up with this stuff? Obvious that you drink too much kool aid and ingest far too much pablum. A vote for Mitt is a vote to Save America.
Sir, Mitt’s never been for something he first didn’t oppose or vise versa. Dude if anyone has been feeding from the spigot of wingnut drivel it’s you ….. you’re the king of corndogs.
I too have a rhyme,
But it is very short,
Another term for Obama,
I will not support.
Barack Obama is an utter complete failure. His political philosophy is a complete utter failure. Vote for him, and you vote for the United States of America to become a complete utter failure.
Folks, it’s a waste of time dealing with Dannyboy7, he works for Hannity and Limbaugh!
AHA !
Hannity as a friend is a compliment. Limabaugh needs to retire. Dannyboy7 is right on. Romeny is our only hope to save America.
talk about trolls…
Tunnel vision is seen so often at BDN comment section. Tunnel vision promotes rude and unwanted trivial rant and accusations. Suggest you read a different news source and see beyond the tunnel.
Vote for him and watch our currency go into the septic. He has no economic clue as to how to lead and lead with competent people . If every person who plans to vote for Romney could get a Lib to see the truth, it would be a landslide. This country needs Mitt Romney…
Wht is it about$16 trillion that you libs fail to understand? How can you witness the turmoil in Europe, thanks to its doubling down on social policy spending, and even consider voting for Obama who sees Europe as a role model?
Get a clue. will you?
Who do you think it was that quadrupled the national debt in 8 years between 1981 and 1989? And then doubled it again between 2001 and 2009? And who was it who was the last president to have a budget surplus?
A clue? Guess that you don’t have a clue that 3/4 of the $16 trillion debt was run up by REPUBLICANS…Your hero Reagan & Bush 41, quadrupled the debt in their 12 year rein and then Bush 43 finished off the job. BUT you’re very quick to blame it all on OBAMA, which is far from the truth. You’re the one who needs to get a clue, Dannyboy7, not us…
This article isn’t even worth posting over and waisting valuable bandwidth. So far there is 52 posts mostly by committed liberals confirming that they trust the anointed one over an evil Republican and reassuring themselves on any chance they get that they have far more intelligence than any poster that remotely appears to be conservative by virtue of a few spelling errors, or someones perceived ignorance on any given subject matter. I know, If you don’t agree with the lemmings, you must be stupid. There is no doubt in my mind, I live in the most liberal state in the nation now. I can here every one of them patting themselves on the back for being there for all the downtrodden and speaking for the voiceless and assuring there will be 2 classes of people in Maine in the not too distant future. Retirees that have their fortunes, and everyone else that is dependent on the government.
The good news is you can instead of voting for the liberals vote for the chest thumping knuckle dragging socially deviant holier than thou morally superior slack jawed mouth breathing Neanderthal crew.
Gotcha! “Neanderthal,” in this context, is racist.
I meant no disrespect, please send my apologies to the Neanderthals.
I am sure that they would accept your apologies. It seems that they were a clan-centric hominid species that took care of their old, sick and wounded clan members and did not throw them under the bus like today’s Republicans.
I’m sure you’re correct about the Neanderthals acceptance, but I think in terms of “today’s Republicans” I can’t bring myself to even consider them as Republicans. The fact of the matter is if Reagan were alive today it would have been he instead of Charlie Crist speaking at the dems convention. An extremely righteous crowd that has gone totally off the rails while living in Crazyville.
Ignorant posts like yours give good swamp donkeys a bad name.
As if the BS and hurl you post has any redeeming qualities.
OK random, crazy internet troll. It might be time to have a talk with your doctor about adjusting your meds.
easy there goose stepper, we all know you’re the real American with the only point of view.
Certainly not the only point of view but I try to make my points without filtering them through such a myopic view of ‘the other side.’ You place all conservatives and/0r Republicans in the same tiny box and label it ‘chest thumping, knuckle-dragging….’ etc. No reasonable person can take you seriously when you do that. But if it makes you feel better then I guess it’s not a complete waste of time, is it? Have a lovely day, Swampy!
I certainly give little credence to anything you say and being that I was responding in-kind to the lemmings remark on the above post and make no reference to party, you took the bait, making you the random troll. Furthermore the current iteration of right wing political want-a-be bears no resemblance to Republican, therefore make that tin box a lead lined hermetically sealed container and dump it into the Marianas Trench where it will serve the world in a much better way. Bu-By.
Hope you are feeling better. That was quite a mouthful. Hope you did not choke. Song of a Troll is what you wrote.
wow Sir, you really got an oral thing going on today
It is the Republicans who have placed themselves in a box, the TEA box. There are no more reasonable Republicans willing to stand up to the tea party faction. That is the ugly fact.
So why did you post? Too much of a committed conservative yourself? Should you be committed?
Neither
I will be voting against the Kenyan.
I will be voting against the Mexican.
I didn’t think any Kenyan marathon runners were running (pun intended0 in our elections.
There isn’t a Kenyan running for President.
His wife thinks so,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3OMRqO7aY
I trust Romney will have the opposite position that he held previously and I trust he can’t be trusted because he opposed all that he stood for before he stood for it.
I stopped trusting politicians years ago.
Romney
I might trust Romney if he could get the corporations that he thinks are people to produce a valid birth certificate?
I guess because the picture accompanying this editorial is of Obama, we already know who the newspaper and its liberal staff will endorse. They will conveniently forget how the man has done nothing for his four years and this country is at best, where it was when he started and probably a lot worse because of the budget and tax cuts. But what the heck, lets give him another four and see what happens. Pass the champagne!
If I wanted the United States to become a country wherein everyone except the ruling political class was at a lower economic standard of living than we’ve previously experienced, regardless of effort put forth, I would vote for Obama. If I want the United States to remain a country which rewards those individuals who deserve to enjoy a higher standard of living based on their efforts and achievements, while providing a basic safety net for those who are in some way disadvantaged, I would vote for Romney.
pure lies….
And delusion.
What would Romney do to help anyone other than the rich to improve their lives?
If Romney wins, then businesses who are holding onto their capital for fear of Obama nationalizing it will start investing again. This will help everyone by stimulating new business activity. Don’t buy into the class warfare rhetoric that the Left has been spewing. They’re playing on the ignorant and uninformed who don’t understand basic economics, in order to try and maintain their hold on power. Businesses are not evil, for business is what creates opportunity for people willing to work. You need to change your mindset, as it is currently poisoned by the collectivists on the Left.
So businesses, run by rich people, are holding back capital but will let that capital work if another rich person gets to run the country is not class warfare?
I suppose you think class warfare is only when poor people stand up to rich people but not when rich people manipulate poor people?
And Obama has shown zip, zero, zilch intention to nationalize businesses. PERIOD.
Business is neither for good or evil. How the business is operated is either good or evil and the people running those businesses decide if they work towards good or for evil.
Who should make decisions about privately-owned capital? It sounds like you are not in favor of individuals being able to make decisions about how to spend or invest their own money? Other countries have tried that model, and it has always failed.
I guess Acts 4:32-35 only works for Socialist China’s Christians?
Not at all. Any Christians certainly can follow this example with the spiritual brothers and sisters that they may have, as we should do what we can to support those who are truly in need. But please take note, this was not done under compulsion, but these Christians each chose to pool their money together on their own. Taking this passage of Scripture and likening it to government taxation policy is a very dangerous interpretation. This is similar to the actions taken by Lenin and Stalin to bring about “communism” through force and compulsion, rather than to wait for it to develop through the economic stages that Marx believed were inevitable.
But the Bush tax credits that have been in effect for at least 10 years were suppose to encourage job creation via the famous Republican trickle down theory. How’s that working for ya?
Even the Bush tax credits couldn’t offset the economic damage caused by the forced mortgage lending requirements that killed the housing market and fueled the latest recession.
The housing crash was because of predatory lending by the banks and securities’ firms packaging worthless loans, passing these securities off as valuable i.e. cheating and wall street’s high stakes gambling with the peoples’ lifetime investments.
. . .including the bad mortgage loans that they were forced to make to people who couldn’t afford the houses they were in.
Yes, that is right… employees were forced to make those loans because that was another way for the banks to make another fortune in fees and as I said, these loans were packaged and sold as valuable…. then the banks made their money and held no responsibility.. heard of robo-signing..
Lesson learned. Never trust a Banker !!!! They take orders from the Feds. Rotten to the core.
you are so confused…. I give up…
Sounds to me more like the fat cats and the right have conspired in an effort to take down the president giving no thought or most likely not giving a damn what repercussions such actions would have on the country and it’s people, their only thought was in serving their extreme ideology. No one is saying business is evil, but there are a handful of Plutocrats who are the ones trying to buy this election and we all know their names , your class warfare diatribe is pure BS.
You’re the one using name-calling and stereotyping language to try and label those who have been “successful” in business. And they are not trying to “take down” a president. They are following the normal process that the United States has had for years–which is to try and win an election every 4 years. Historically speaking, any other president in the past 60 years who was at the helm during such poor national economic performance in this country has been defeated. Just because Obama may have touched your heart with his caring ways and smooth speaking abilities does not mean he should be automatically given a second term. He himself said that if his plans didn’t work, he’d only be a one-term president. Just remember, he is not an emperor and he is not a king. He is a servant of the people of the United States and he, by all recent standards, has failed in his responsibilities. We need real change!
Real change …. do tell, because we’ve seen the kind of change that was brought about by Bush and it looked like a run away train heading for a brick wall. We’ve seen how Wall Street behaves when left to self- regulate and how banks gobble each other up in a race to see who is the last one standing. We’ve seen our jobs go to other countries and in some cases slave labor replaced US workers. We’ve seen “successful” business that generations of hard working Americans built close their doors and disappear for increased profitability and we’ve seen those same companies pay CEO’s outrageous sums of money for pensions of those they rid their company of. The fact of the matter is Big Business runs our government not the other way around. Big Business is content as long as they have the ability to dictate legislation that benefits their bottom line and control politicians who act only as their water boys. You may call that success, many others call that corporatism.
Still blaming Bush. Totally late for the party with that old line. SOLYANDRA is a buster. Bush administration said No to them. But Barry was so bent on getting a name associated with Green that they got the royal treatment, with our money. Disgraceful.
Well Sir, only in Crazyville on the bus to hell are they not blaming Bush for his crimes he’s committed against our country. Past, present and future he’ll be remembered as the a..Clown who was responsible for creating the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression. So delude yourself all you like ….. it ain’t goin’ away.
PS
Hey Dude, thanks for stopping by.
A clown is hardly a polite or respectful description. So Maam, you have your economic facts wrong and should do some serious research. Former Pres. Bush committed NO CRIMES AGAINST our country and you only spout that nonsense as you have nothing factual to defend your accusation. You surely must be Deb W.Schultz’s best fan. She is a liar.
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Not true…. Bush did not say no to Solyndra…. you are spreading lies. Disgraceful.
You best do some research. You will find that the Bush administration said NO to Solyndra. Do some fact check before you call someone names. You sound like Nonsense.
More Republican lies. Am done.
BFD
So donkeye how is okay for the residents of the white house to serve bottles of wine at dinners with your tax money, that cost between 90 and 150 dollars each? That is hard to swallow. We need change in Nov. as the current administration has failed this country. This cannot be blamed on anyone but Obama.
Well Sir, compared to the Bush Imperium a buck fifty bottle of wine is trivial compared to buckets of road apples we were made to ingest for eight years. Romney has surrounded himself with the same clowns as that imbecile cowboy had around himself, how is it that you’ll be swallowing anything different than the same crap from the past?
Socialism may be your choice and that is what you get with Obama. At least Bush had the decency to attend church services and knows the difference between good and evil. As you refer to former Pres. Bush, as an “Imbecilie cowboy”, you expemplify your clear lack of social grace and intelligent ability to banter. Hard for you to see the truth. Sorry for you maam/
yawn
Libs are so bent on denouncing wealthy people they tend to forget there are just as many wealthy Libs. If Obama remains in office we are going to see the collapse of our currency.
Sir, the only thing that will be collapsing is you …. invertebrates of the right need to grow a spine and stop whining about things they don’t understand. Get up off all fours and learn to ambulate as humans do. Evolve
Maam you surely have this rude way of expressing your anger. The use of your petty name calling is a sure need to attend a psych session, based on anger management. It always happens when you try too hard to stand tall for Pres. Obama. Attending a religious service on Sunday may also help. Be well.
Anger Sir? LOL to me this is nothing more than playing words with friends, except its more fun. It’s like watching an old Foghorn leghorn cartoon, where I’m pitchen and there going over your head. You better not only straighten up, get thicker skin but start acting like you know something. You Sir, are the one that came lookin for trouble poken your busybody nose into my posts. Keep coming around, please … and I’ll keep telling you what I think of “your” psychotic screw ball thinking OK? So knock off the holier than thou nonsense and let you high and mighty feet touch ground every now and then. Peace out.
Too much NBC will give you reason to think in the manner you portray. Fox may help you to see the truth.
FAUX News – the network that hires Rmoney campaign staff to read news and commentary?
Ain’t no truth there.
Yessah
There is no truth in your statement. None. Just as there is no truth at your favorite news source.
Then list all the things that Romney has done to enrich the lives of the Middle Class and the poor. It will be a very short list, even if you can come up with one.
Too busy to write the list. Am not playing into stupid drama with you.
Nice try but you are not to busy to reply to my post in less than 5 minutes which tells me you cannot compile a list. Which I knew because you never back up anything you post with actual facts.
Are your finances better or worse since Obama became president/? You can ask that to everyone .
Most will answer that they are worse off financially or are not spending due to concern of the future.
Romney has a far better economics background than Obama. He can create an administration that could help get America productive again. During Obama’s presidency, we have not seen economic growth here but have seen foreclosures and thousands of new thrift shops and new homeless Americans.
Rather than place blame as we all have done, we need to learn to work together. As I DID research your request, the continued cry of hate of Romney, was evident in most all that I read. It is nauseating to say the least. So much hateful rant and nothing positive to create for a better America. I may be sarcastic and have an attitude but it is a natural defense against drama and BS and stupidity.
My finances are worse now than they were in 2008 but I can’t blame Obama. I was let go in 2010 from a very good paying job, not because of lack work but because I cost the company too much money. They replaced me with two people, one of whom I trained to take over my job so that I could move to other responsibilities, at a combined cost of less than I was making.
I think the 4.3 million people who have found jobs in the private sector since Obama stopped the hemorraging of jobs from the Bush Adminstration would say that they are better off then they would have been if a Republican had been in office.
The same goes for the future. How is a man who thought that letting the Auto Industry fold would have been good for America going to improve the lot of average Americnas?
The auto industries that were bailed out will never be able to repay their debt. Many of the people who have found jobs since Obama took office, have taken jobs that pay less than the unemployment they were getting. Yes at least they are working but their standard of living has decreased. Less vehicle travel and cheaper brands of food for them. At least Ford is holding itself to a higher playing field.
The same job replacement scenerio also happened to me many years ago. I learned the lesson then and have been self employed since.
I am not blaming Bush for job loss. I blame Obama. As I write we know people who struggle to keep their homes. They only buy necessities and no longer go to the movies or out to dinner as they once did.. Our America has and is changing and Obama promised Hope and Change. We got change and in the process got cheated. So next time you feel the need to Blame Bush, I suggest you think about Obama and his administration that have stirred the racial topic and continue to offer empty promises for a better America. Sorry, But I don’t buy that line.
“…I am not blaming Bush for job loss. I blame Obama…”
So you blame Obama for job losses that occured before he took office and immediately after he took office, before he could do anything about the state of the economy? And you give no credit to Obama for the 4.3 million jobs that have been created thanks in large part to his economic stimulus?
People started to lose their homes in 2006 and 2007 but that is Obama’s fault as well?
Obama has stirred the Racial topic, not the people claiming a “Kenyan” is in office, or the people saying “It’s the WHITEhouse” or many other examples of racial bias?
Obama will get my vote. Willard is the penultimate flim- flam/ flip-flopper and if ‘lyin Ryan were pinocchio his nose would be useful as the first down distance marker in football.
Yes, you guys in Maine should vote for Romney, you’re all so rich up there! People need to start voting their own economic interest!
So, where do you hail from?
I am just a poor Mainer retired in Florida trying to get by. It pains me to see so many un-informed people on here willing to give the country away to Romney. If you think it’s bad now, wait and see what happens if Romney/Ryan win. Their tax cuts for the rich will be like Bush on steroids and it will add 5 trillion to the debt. Remember Republicans are only interested in the deficit & debt, when they are OUT of office. When they are IN, you’ll never hear those two words, because they spend like drunken sailors. Ryan voted FOR all $ 5 trillion of Bush’s spending on the credit card. Check his record! As a person who was brought up in Maine to be honest, I can’t take Romney lying and then Fox News swearing to it! Fox is an entertainment channel, not a news channel.
from your lips to god’s ears !!!
You are trying to get by just as many other Americans are. We all feel that financial pain. It will get worse IF Obama is reelected and his record proves it. You still blame Bush and you easily forget that NAFTA is the major reason so many jobs are now overseas. Romney does NOT lie and Fox News is more honest than your NBC and CBS and MSNBC and Public Radio and TV.
Heard from a friend in Fl. that Beall’s and Winn Dixie are hiring as is Walmart and Perkins. Hope that helps.
That’s just my point hammockbear, YOU DON’T GET IT!
You maam are the one who does not get it. You describe the ‘drunken sailors” as spenders in the wrong Party, You described Pelosi, ObamaS, Reid, Jackson, ETC. all LIBS. Try wearing a hat to keep the sun off you.
I can’t fix STUPID….Keep watching Faux for your FACTS… PS..Swampdonkie is WAY out of your LEAGUE…You’ll never be able to keep up!
The only choose we have.is Mitt. With all the lies we have seen for four years……
Obama seems to be the epitome of the empty suit. He talks and talks with that fake folksy inflection in his voice…And what HAS he done in four years? I am definitely not better off now than I was when he was elected.
Boy, the comments here sure do lend credence to the comment made by one historian that this election is probably second only to the one preceding the civil war in its polarity. I think the majority of us have made up our minds. We will have to wait until November to see what majority takes the prize. I only hope for the sake of the country that it is not another popular/electoral split.
Why does Romney hate America? I mean he keeps his money in foreign banks, he owns a foreign flagged yacht. How un-American!
I can just imagine the outrage if Obama was rich enough to own a yacht and it was not registered in America. It would just be more evidence of his hatred for America, would it not?
You really are a Dilbert.
Macroeconomic Advisers on the American Jobs Act, proposed a year ago:We estimate that the American Jobs Act (AJA), if enacted, would give a significant boost to GDP and employment over the near-term.
-The various tax cuts aimed at raising workers’ after-tax income and encouraging hiring and investing, combined with the spending increases aimed at maintaining state & local employment and funding infrastructure modernization, would:-Boost the level of GDP by 1.3% by the end of 2012, and by 0.2% by the end of 2013.-Raise nonfarm establishment employment by 1.3 million by the end of 2012 and 0.8 million by the end of 2013, relative to the baselineOf course, it that had happened, Obama would be more or less a lock for reelection. Instead, having blocked the president’s economic plans, Republicans can point to weak job growth and claim that the president’s policies have failed..
Both are lying politicians. Nuff said.
Barrys auto bio is BS Why would I believe a word of anything he tries to sell me
Clinton was in favor of a balanced budget. Warren Buffett is in favor of raising taxes so that his secretary does NOT pay at a higher tax rate than he does.
I’ll vote for Obama any day and every day – I’m scared to death of Mitt the Twitt. He will definitely take us backwards – he’ll probably take us so far backwards as to try to take away the woman’s vote – we haven’t had it for a century yet!
Today I heard from a very, very conservative attorney that he will vote for Obama – as he believes Mitt just doesn’t understand how most of this country lives.
Obama was dealt one of the worst hands in history when he took office. We’re in 2 wars – and Mitt wants to start another with Russia and with Iran – and he insults our best friend? Come on – get real!
Why would anyone trust a politician?
Ross Perot!!!!
Really, until Romney actually says one thing that he stands for(that ain’t happenin”) I’m for Obama.
It is most obvious that Mitt Romney should be trusted over Barack Hussein Obama.
We have had too many years already of the Pearly White Lies from the latter. Does anyone not remember what was stated in the past and how it is contradicted now?
I would never trust someone who refuses to defend human life, from conception to natural death, with anything. If someone is immoral regarding a nature of that much seriousness, he is likely immoral in many aspects of his life.
Humans aren’t the only species on earth, we just act like it.
I trust both of them as long as their lips are not moving.
I trust Obama.
Rmoney is a lying sack that hides his money in Zurich.
Throw all the GOP bums out this November.
Yessah
I don’t know how anyone could trust a president that has thrown out the constitution and then bragged about it. I am referring to using drones in Yemen to kill american citizens. It is a clear violation of the constitution, that in his oath of office he swore to defend.
One can base their trust on a couple of things… blind faith, or evidence that one’s trust is not misplaced.
In the case of looking at the economy, one side DOES ask for blind faith. The gop ticket reveals what it says it will do, but presents NO evidence it is, one, achievable (closing tax loopholes to pay for STEEP cuts to revenue but not saying which ones (“just trust us”)), and two, what it says is even desirable given the analysis that shows the proposed cuts to revenues and spending will essentially put the brakes on the recovery and likely drive us back into recession. The promises being offered are offered purely on BLIND FAITH.
When Ryan submitted his budget to the CBO for analysis, the CBO came back and plainly said there was not enough detail to make a judgment as to the expected results… What did Ryan do? He touted his budget plan as being vetted by the CBO, when in fact it was not… Add this type of misinformation to BLIND FAITH and you get something more closely resembling a snake oil sales pitch than a cogent plan to take the economy forward.
What portions of the gop ticket’s plan CAN be analyzed with some certainty tells us MIDDLE CLASS families will likely pay up to $2000 more in taxes per year, while millionaire families will see a tax savings of $200,000 per year. To pay for all of that “welfare to the wealthy” SS and Medicare will have to be destroyed, aid to states will be cut leaving the states to deal with millions of low income people in need of assistance.
And what is the purpose of this “starve the beast” policy? An example can be drawn from Jefferson County, Alabama… to finance a much, much needed sewer project, the country entered into a derivatives deal with a TBTF bank, and ended up with NO sewer project and millions of dollars in debt to the bank when the derivatives went sour. The much touted privatization… the much touted “the market is the answer to all our woes…” meme is forced on the States to finance needed services. Who pays the price of this privatization… the taxpayer, not only with taxes but with less services, a breakdown of the social contract…
With social services, it is YOYO policy… you’re on your own… as in, “Sorry, Grandma, you’re on your own… here’s your voucher for Medicare… sorry it doesn’t cover the cost… maybe you can cut back on heat, or food…”
The track record of the other side shows that economic policies enacted when Obama became prez stopped a slide into depression that resembled in magnitude the Great Depression. With GDP falling at a rate of 9% in 2009, the legislation and actions taken stopped that descent, helped maintain the jobs of state workers… teachers, police, firefighters… mostly middle class people… Without the actions taken the slide in GDP would have likely continued and the conversation we are having now might be very different. NO ONE with credibility and understanding of the depth of the crisis we faced denies these facts… although there are those that try… The proven track record is the creation or saving of over 4 million jobs.
The ACA increases the pool of people able to get health insurance, something the insurance industry has been firmly behind because of all the NEW BUSINESS it promises them. It works to reduce the rise in Medicare costs over the next decade WITHOUT cutting benefits to seniors or the sick, unlike the gop plan that effectively dismantle Medicare and Medicaid causing current recipients to be in danger of less benefits, pushing out low income recipients, driving up costs for later retirees, by as much as $6000 per year. The ACA is not the most ideal reform for health care… the vast majority of Americans know a single payer system like every other civilized country provides its citizens would be vastly more efficient and compassionate… but that’s politics for you.
Financial reform legislation created a Consumer Financial Protection Agency meant to protect the little person, the MIDDLE CLASS, against the greed and unscrupulous dealings of credit card companies, banks, financial institutions. Financial reform, if rule making can not be totally dominated by the lobbyist of the big banks, could break up the TOO BIG TO FAIL banks that the gop ticket would like to give MORE power to, freeing them to continue with the greed, hubris, the faulty self-policing that we bailed out when their house of cards collapsed. THAT alone is a recipe for disaster.
This track record was accomplished with near total opposition from the gop, which all along has operated on the BLIND FAITH that what drove the country off the cliff this last time, letting business self police itself with less regulation, less oversight will work to “fix” the economy… The tax cuts (and wars) of the 2000’s has left the country with an enormous deficit and debt… And the same policies are being put forward as what will help the economy… I’ll go with the more proven track record.
You can go with your proven track record. I’ll go with this one:
The Obama/Biden ticket’s entire
campaign theme is based on the 8 years of Bush.
Maybe we should really look at the last two years, 2006-2008, or the time period when both the House and the Senate were
run by Democrats.
In December 2006, after six years
of Bush and the last month before the Democrats took over both houses of the
national legislature, a snapshot of our economy looked like this.
Unemployment stood at 4.4%.
Real GDP
growth over the previous four years (under a Republican President, House
and Senate) averaged 3% per year.
A gallon of regular gasoline cost $2.30.
The S&P 500 stock
index stood at 1418, or 84% above its post-911 low and more than 7% higher than
when Bush took office.
Every year of Bush’s Presidency, real
(inflation-adjusted) disposable income per person went up. By the end of
2006, the average person was making 9% more in real terms than before
Bush became President
Given that over 50% of the current debt and deficit is accounted for today by the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003, the unfunded wars, and the response to the financial crisis (a crisis warned about in 2006 – 2008 by folks as diverse as the FBI investigating the mortgage industry for fraudulent mortgages, or warnings about the unregulated mortgage derivatives market that was vacuuming up subprime mortgages as fast as they could be offered to unwitting people…) how exactly do you intend to pin the crisis on the Dems having control of Congress for the two years before the bubble building in 2006 – 2008 broke? Were there, in fact, actions Dems took that you think turned Bush’s wonderful economy into crisis, as you imply?
Oil prices are volatile for all sorts of reason, not the least of which being wars in oil producing regions. Dems in Congress, or repubs for that matter, had little control of those fluctuations. As was seen with Enron’s market manipulation, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that the market prices for domestic energy supplies has been rigged by those that took the lessons of Enron and apply them to their business models, but I’m only guessing at that.
I’d also like to see the citation for real disposable income increasing at the rates you claim under Bush policies. They may be in fact, but given the spending spree Bush was on, I wouldn’t doubt a moderately robust economy, which your figures, if accurate, suggest. In my business, commercial photography, 2008 was a pretty good year… until 2009…
Mr Romney is a bit different from his opponent, Barack Hussein Obama, AKA Barry Soetero. He is a natural-born American and hasn’t been paying millions of dollars to an army of lawyers to hide everything about his background. Mr Romney has never said “the Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound I have ever heard.” Mr Romney has never said that he will decrease the size and capabilities of our armed forces “to levels acceptable to peaceful Muslim countries.” Mr Romney has never had a ‘student loan for foreign students only.’ Mr Romney has friends he made in high school and college that can actually be located. Mr Romney doesn’t put his hands on his crotch when our National Anthem is played. Mr Romney has not made a world tour, insulting or ignoring our allies and apologizing to our enemies. Mr Romney has not called our soldiers unpatriotic because they didn’t buy separate, private health insurance to pay for their wounds while serving in our Armed Forces. Mr Romney doesn’t have a wife that says she is “ashamed to be an American.” And neither Mitt Romney nor Ann Romney have had to surrender law licenses because of fraud. I know who I believe is a good, patriotic American. I know who I believe knows how to be a chief executive. I know who I believe loves our country and cares about America and her people more than himself. I know who I believe is a more moral, God-fearing man that has ethics and lives by them. To me, that man is Mitt Romney and I hope he is our next President. I am voting for Mitt Romney.
LOL! – what a steaming heap!
Yessah