Maine’s law that obligates professionals who have regular contact with children to report suspected child abuse and neglect has no provision that requires those so-called mandated reporters to receive training about their responsibilities.
And that could be the state law’s greatest weakness and a critical factor in keeping an unknown number of suspected child abuse cases from being reported to authorities, according to a nationally recognized expert who trains investigators, prosecutors, doctors and others to recognize and address signs of child abuse.
“If we really want the reporting laws to be successful, we’re going to have to address training,” said Victor Vieth, executive director of the National Association to Prevent Sexual Abuse of Children in Winona, Minn. “Everything else is just a Band-Aid. [Training] is clearly the solution that the research makes clear will truly make a difference.”
A Maine State Police report released last week that suggests a number of people may have known the Rev. Bob Carlson sexually abused multiple children, but didn’t come forward to report it, has raised questions about the state’s mandated reporter law and whether it applies.
Maine’s mandatory reporting law requires that 32 types of professionals — from school employees to medical personnel to law enforcement — report child abuse or neglect to the Department of Health and Human Services or to their superiors if they have reason to suspect it has happened.
But the law makes no mention of training for those professionals so they can identify signs of abuse and neglect and so they can properly report them.
As a result, the training mandated reporters receive related to their responsibilities under the mandatory reporting law varies widely, said Therese Cahill-Low, director of the Office of Child and Family Services at the Maine Department of Health and Human Services.
“It’s not mandated by the state as to what curriculum is followed or that, even, a training happens,” she said. Still, “people are supposed to know that they’re mandated reporters.”
But the less they understand about their responsibility to report suspected abuse, the less likely mandated reporters are to report it, said Vieth.
“They oftentimes don’t comply with the law because they have virtually no meaningful training,” he said.
States began to adopt mandated reporter laws in the 1960s, following the 1962 publication of the medical paper “The Battered-Child Syndrome,” by five doctors who identified signs medical personnel could look for to determine whether a child had been abused. By 1967, Vieth said, all 50 states had adopted mandatory reporting laws. Maine’s mandatory reporting law first passed in 1965 as a measure to require doctors who see signs of abuse in young patients to make a report to what was then the state Department of Health and Welfare.
Most states expanded their mandatory reporting laws in the 1970s to address sexual abuse of children, Vieth said. The 1975 expansion of Maine’s law also added social workers, psychologists, child care employees, law enforcement, teachers, school officials and others to the mandated reporter list.
While states have become relatively consistent in terms of who is required to report suspected child abuse, state laws have largely failed to address training for mandated reporters, Vieth said. And the research shows the lack of training is what prevents many cases of suspected child abuse from being reported, he said.
“If a community properly trains the mandated reporters, the system works,” Vieth said. “And if the mandated reporters are not trained, the system doesn’t work.”
A semester-long course to familiarize mandated reporters with their responsibilities is ideal, Vieth said, and it’s also important that mandated reporters receive training regularly.
At the Bangor School Department, all employees receive training annually on their mandated reporter responsibilities as part of a comprehensive review of their various responsibilities under state laws and school district policies, said Superintendent Betsy Webb.
“By having it as a frequent part of the conversation, I think it sends the message that, number one, it’s the expectation and, number two, it is safe to do that,” Webb said. “We want to err on the side of being cautious.”
New employees receive a more in-depth training, Webb said.
At Eastern Maine Medical Center, all new employees receive mandated reporter training as part of their orientation, said Mark Moran, a licensed social worker and the organization’s family service and support team coordinator. Certain employees, including nurses and doctors, receive more in-depth mandated reporter training.
“We talk about different types of abuse, some of the common indicators of abuse, what to do when you suspect,” he said.
The Eastern Maine Medical Center training also emphasizes that anyone who reports suspected abuse is immune from civil and criminal liability and that a mandated reporter needs to report suspected abuse even if it took place years ago, Moran said.
Such training is less common at colleges, where fewer employees have regular contact with children. Spokespeople for Husson University in Bangor and the University of Maine in Orono said their employees don’t receive training to familiarize themselves with Maine’s mandatory reporting law.
Maine’s law is also ambiguous as to whether the definition of “school official” and “teacher” extends to university employees.
Cahill-Low, of the Department of Health and Human Services, said her office has a small corps of trainers who visit schools and other organizations that request training. Her office is also working with pediatricians, child abuse advocates and others to improve the department’s online mandated reporter training, so there’s easier access to high-quality training for anybody who wants it.
“I like to think that everybody’s a mandated reporter,” she said. “A child’s welfare is everybody’s business.”



what about PCHC he was employed there the day he jumped?
Yes
Not knowing the law is not an excuse for breaking the law. I have an Idea if Husson Univerisity is not a school then it is a for profir business. Make them pay taxes. Not a school no way Mr. Lepage or anyone else could have a degree from them. Ok state of Maine lets not recognize and schooling from a place that is not a school. See how long they stay in business.
What a bunch of doo doo. People know how to report and take action. Do you need training to know a creep is around your kids? Take off your blinders people.
Of course, it’s not always that simple. I was in the UMO Education program in my 30s, with kids fresh out of high school. I had to tell a wide-eyed, childless, wannabe Children’s Crusader that if she had my kid taken away because of bruises from a soccer game, when it was all over I’d be living in her house and driving her car.
It is a training issue for the reporters AND the government workers who make the decisions.
What worries me is what training will they get. Will they hear from people who have been falsely accused? Will they hear from kids that have been through fostering? Will they be studying the Bakersfield tragedy or will they get pretty much the training my mother gave me?
Her stance was “If you see a baby with a cast, the baby was abused because there is no way a baby can break a bone.” My mother with all sincerity and goodwill had never heard of brittle bone syndrome.
In fact there are a frighting amount of medical conditions that mimic child abuse symptoms. lots of bruising could actually be a blood disorder, a kid that runs away a lot could have autism. I absolutely agree there has to be education, there has to be a huge gathering of people from the medical community, parents, teachers, fosterers, social workers everyone affected to learn from each other.
It cannot be a half butted attempt at nothing. If they are training people its gotta be dead serious to make sure innocent familes are not ripped apart anymore, and actully abused children are rescued. Foster care system needs to be revamped too. They can’t keep moving them around. All kids need stability.
So, are you saying as a “mandated reporter” in education you would not report suspected abuse? You also have a moral obligation to report I believe. It is your duty to report and for determine if any action needs to be taken is up to the investigators. I feel strongly anyone who suspicions should report it no matter the outcome to protect children.
Take the monetary incentives out of the system and replace it with morality and family values to fix the broken very dangerous system. Add some accountability too. I watched a documentary film of Betty Marconi and her Girl Child Program in Zimbabwe that was an international film. The Girl Child Program was started because their is a growing myth raping a virgin will cure aids. In this documentary, it is stated that they cannot bring the girls to the American foster care system because there is a three times higher likelihood they will be sexually abused. SHAME ON US. We are worse than a third world country that believes rape cures aids.
Unreal. So sad. We have to be better at reporting any kind of abuse of children. We are so complacent as a society with many people just walking away with no follow through. It’s like as long as it is not my kid then not my problem. That is a little child and soul that could be damaged for life. How could somebody not step in to protect this innocent being?
One of the questions that needs to be answered is: how does one define reasonable suspicion? A kid with a bruise on a leg or arm doesn’t meet that criteria, or does it? I might not find it suspicious but the next person might.
I think we need to be really careful. What looks like abuse from a parent could actually be a soccer game, or bully attack. I think if we are going to be mandated reporters we need to be mandated investigators first. Kids don’t always answer the way we expect. A situation once happened where a grown up saw a band-aid on a kid and the grown up immediately wanted to know what caused the wound. The kid said “so and so did this,” meaning the band-aid. Someone put a band-aid on the cut. an investigation was launched on the person who supplied the band-aid. It seems no one bothered to ask the kid if the person gave them the wound or band-aid.
There are those of course who simply just make stuff up and call it. I think if we are going to get involved, we should be a community and talk to the family first.
I suspect that reports were made to DHHS but we will never know. DHHS may have dropped the ball on this. In the 1990s, an article in the BDN quoted state statistics that noted only one in four reports of child abuse were investigated by the state.
OK. The point is well taken. Everyone who comes into contact with children should know the signs. However, let’s not make a huge deal about training. If you are around children, know the law, read what is available, keep your eyes and ears open, use common sense, report what you SUSPECT, not to accuse, but to report what you suspect. Then the experts can and must look into it and take action. Take personal responsibility for the welfare of the child. Methinks I see a diversion coming down the pike, PUTTING THE BLAME ON LACK OF TRAINING. (Yes, I know I am shouting.)
I believe most of the professionals do already have training. As for me? I don’t. But if I see something suspicious, I will report it to someone who DOES have training. We don’t all need to know how to recognize…..just don’t turn your head and pretend you don’t see it.
Nope. out of staters dont laugh at mainers when they read stories like these
Most of the people involved already had more than enough training, police, sherrif, therapists, education officials, they had strong suspicions and did nothing because they did’nt want to rock the boat. This is not about the need for new laws it should be about finding out why these people did not act on their knowledge
to billieusa’s point. carlson was at PCHC for 20+ years in a leadership position. it is an institution filled with “experts”. it’s likely they give the kind of training mr. stone is talking about. lack of training is not excuse.
“Your conduct and repeated demonstrations of lack of judgment clearly shows that you are unable to conform to the standards of professionalism that is expected by a Law Enforcement officer or Public Servant of the State of Maine. Accordingly, your employment is hereby terminated.”
This will only work if the mandated reporters have integrity…..unfortunately from what I have experienced there are no mandated reporters who have this quality in Maine. What I have found is that there is a code of silence among those who are in public service whether it be medical, mental health, law enforcement and state and federal employees who oversee those entities….the code mandates that you not “rat” on each other…..no matter what the offense….
If it is a law that is not enforced why would people with no integrity care. You can not tell me in all Mr. Almy years as DA. no one who was mandated to report did not report . thier needs to be clear penalties and it needs to be enforced to the fullest extent of the law. I am not talking about the kid who does not brush his teeth as much as I am the sports coach or scout leader , religious leader, daycare worker or other that may be have access to many kids. We need to contact are state reps and make the law more clear.
Like I said before….they report on their CLIENTS not each other…..can you think of one incident in the last ten years where a professional reported on a professional? I don’t believe there was one….do you think that Bob Carlson was the only professional in Maine that has behaved improperly in the last ten years? I think not, as a matter of fact, I know it is not true from personal experience…. even that DHHS worker who killed that child by duct taping her to a chair and then smothering her by duct taping her mouth got off easy….the only reason she got caught was because the poor child died….otherwise the kid would have spent years being abused by that animal….laws are only enforced in Maine against the poor because they are thought of as less than everyone else therefor they are more deserving of punishment….like I also said before, had any of those mandated reporters heard such allegations about a person living in Capeheart they would have been on the phone in a minute calling whomever and they would have had the person’s name and face splashed all over the BDN whether it was true or not. They would have been hung out to dry in the court of public opinion unlike Carlson whom even after being investigated was helped by his buddy Ross. Mandated reporters are a joke in Maine when it comes to reporting on their colleagues….they are all to afraid of what might happen if they are wrong so it is just easier to let the abused founder……..
You likely have not met all of the mandated reporters in the state…there are many who would readily report and have great integrity. In my circle the discussion is clear, reporting is a no brainer, we get training, we know what to do and do it with great concern. Some, not all, are part of the ” code of silence”
Well having been a victim of the “code of silence” I beg to differ…..if you truly are willing to do your job more power to you but from my experience people like you are few and far between unless of course they are reporting on those they consider less than themselves and therefor somehow defective…..
Have reported a colleague, would do it again. No hesitation. Again it is unfortunate you have had such a bad experience. I know many mandated reports in all walks of life who dont consider their clients, patients, constituents, students etc as “less than” I am not negating your experience just trying to bring some perspective to the discussion. Not all mandated reports are lax or careless or uncaring.
My mandated reporter was my crazy downstairs ex neighbor that just wanted to get rid of my kid because she was an active toddler and the noise bothered her. Like we’d have let them have peace if they succeed after ripping apart our family. But crazy people never really look at the consequences of their actions or the bigger picture.
Those in power will continue to try to explain away why this man (and how many others) got away with these crimes while those of us from the other end of the spectrum already know…..he was from the elite and moved in their circles….they protected him least their sins be revealed too.
i believe that those in power intend to hunker down and ride out this storm until it goes away. they probably will succeed. the DA says he can’t prosecute due to an inefectual law. the police say carlson’s dead and they’re done. don’t expect individual therapists, social workers, teachers, law enforcement, and administrators of institutions like pchc and chcs to come forward at this late date and do the right thing. they believe that it will eventually pass.
If you complain about a teacher in Portland that teacher will retaliate by making a fraudulent and frivolous report to CPS.
And my step son was molested by a foster parent right here in Maine. DHHS did a great job of covering it up. Even warned us that if we spoke out we could be subject to 30 days in jail and a $500 dollar fine.
So sorry this happened to your stepson …..but I know you are telling the truth…..the code of silence will never be broken in this state…..to many close family ties in government…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVFxc3e0MHo
The Fight CPS In Maine Facebook Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/fightcpsinmaine/
I know of no law in the Maine Statutes which mandates that parents or step parents (or anyone else for that matter) be silent about child molestation.
Under the current law the Bangor Daily News COULD post the name of Carlson’s victims, it is only the newspaper’s policy that keeps them from doing this.
CPS has confidentiality laws which it hides behind. That’s how they cover their tracks and hide all the fraud. The kid was in foster care. Their stories are rarely told. Social Workers would have retaliated one way or another if we had spoken out back then. Judges will issue gag orders on parents in Maine who speak out. That’s how they operate. Nor is CPS known for following all the laws.
The case is now closed. Now I run a popular blog on the subject that I only began out of disgust with the care he had recieved. I choose not to give his name, because he is family and does not deserve to be further victimized through public exposure.
BTW, 6 years ago they contacted my wife and set up visits. She hadn’t seen him in 10 years at that point. We met him, he was living in a Spurwink run group home, was on 7 psychiatric drugs, and they told him he was doing great. He cost the state $280 a day to live there.
That’s how Maine protects the kids. Send them to the shrink to help with the depression and behaviors that are brought on by being ripped away from your family for frivolous reasons by drugging you up. Then they boot you out of care at age 18.
You are preaching to the Choir. I have NOTHING good to say about the care Maine gives its “State children” BUT nothing will change until people speak out and the supreme court has ruled that “Confidentiality laws” do not apply when reporting abuse or other crimes. In situations of jeapordy to life or health even a priest and physician can be compelled to testify today.
I’m not trying to preach to the choir. Things need to be said and the people of Maine need to wake up and become aware that all of this news coming out of DHHS’s public relations department is hardly realistic.
But you say the government violated your free speech rights, and you are content to do nothing about this?
If you won’t get out their at the head of the battle (for whatever reason) you have absolutely NO moral standing to tell others to go fight in your stead.
Mark
I speak out louder than anybody. Everyday. I never said I was content with it. I said I am not going to use a kid who is a victim of sexual abuse while in Maine’s foster care system as my poster child.
There is a difference.
Don’t see it.
Victor Vieth feels “training” is the answer, and, oh by-the-way, he’ll sell it to the State for a price. He is also a “National expert” according to this (puff piece) story, but in my 40 years working with abused and neglected children, I have never heard of him, or his agency.
Please be advised citizens and taxpayers, this is not about preventing child abuse (which we all wish to do) it is about making money off a terrible incident.
Remember this “training” will be for every school bus driver, teacher, camp counselor and other mandated reporter in the State. It will cost big bucks, AND it will do damn little to address the problem.
One must always remember that when reading the Bangor Daily News history is important. History says that the Bangor Daily never saw a tax increase it didn’t like and support.
there is no way the therapist involved did not understand reporting requirements. If Chris Almy doesn’t want to take action through his office, contact the therapist licensing board. they will mandate training along with other sanctions! How could a therapist not disclose a known perpetrator and justify keeping that quiet. inexcusable. I just finished school and this was repeated over and over in my classes!
You think failure to report coworkers only happens in Maine? Please list the States where you have profeccional child care experience.
anti tiptoe law; must read report.
http://www.kjonline.com/news/maine-needs-and-anti-tiptoe-law_2012-08-04.html
If Mathew Stone was a good reporter he would known to do his homework!
What are you going to do, teach them more psycho antilipsey techniques?
cps are the abusers, more children are abused in cps care than parent’s care.
ever notice a mandated reported will never report another mandated reporter?? they system is broke, and against staked against average parents.
cps is corrupt and maine reports show an F!
THEY TAKE CHILDREN FOR FEDERAL PROFIT KEEP THEM SICK AND ABUSED.
Herre Mathew Stone: You want to know the truth: Go go DHHS CPS Blog spot and review the Parent’s HandBook. Know your facts. Write an aricle about that!!
CPS’s target is single moms between the age of 20-30 years!
GO TO FACEBOOK: LEGALLY KIDNAPPED/KID JACKED/ PARENTS RIGHTS/FIGHT CPS
DHHS CPS BLOGSPOT PARENT’S HANDBOOK
THIS SITE IS STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT, BUT ENOUGH FOR NOW TO PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN.
ZERO TOLERANCE FOR CPS ABUSE/ CPS CORRUPTION/ NO EXCUSES ANYMORE.
CPS STOP THE PSYCHO ANTILIPSEY TECHNIQUES AND ABUSING CHILDREN.
THERE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF BABY KILLERS, PEDIPHIALS, AND CHILD TRAFFICERS.
Go to DHHS-CPS Blogspot Parent’s Handbook and you can see the truth of who are the abusers. Mathew should get both sides of the story.
CPS don’t need more training in Psycho Antilipsy Techniques.
You will never see a Mandated Reporter REPORT another Mandated Reporter. Ever notice that!! You will never see a Politician reported!! How about making a report on a JUDGE! So every judge in American and there isn’t one of them an abuser?? NO WAY!!
GO TO Legally Kidnapped/kid jacked/ parents rights/ fight cps on Facebook..
Protect yourselves from this monsterous system stacked up against parents.
I think the awareness of the system’s flaws is becoming public knowledge like it is the most dangerous place for any child and it is a child trafficking industry costing us 7 trillion dollars a year that ignores the abused child to make money. When the deaths hits the news, they cry more money when it is there own neglect and failures. They choose to profit on adopting good healthy unneglected children away from their families instead of helping the children that need them. Fix the system and protect the children instead of crying for more money, more victims. International Protest FOR THE LOVE OF CHILDREN September 28th 2012 to keep our children safe from this family destroying child killing system. WE WANT REFORM AND ACCOUNTABILITY
No taxpayer money for bogus government ideology. State mandated reporters do way more harm than good. More children die, are raped, neglected, physically and mentally abused in foster state care the world over. Teach that to the imbecile state mandated reporter before they ever get near your kids.
Children are raped, neglected, physically and mentally abused by their parents, grandparents, and other family members all over the world. I’m a mandated reporter and if you are abusing or neglecting your kids, I will report you. That abuse and neglect includes being too impaired by drugs or alcohol to care for your kids, or allowing your partner to act violently in the home. Your kids deserve better and you obviously can’t provide it if you are abusing or neglecting your kids. And mandated reporters don’t take kids away. They make a report to the state which will launch(supposedly) an investigation.
Honey777 is exactly the type of person we are talking about. If you really cared about all the foster children that are raped, murdered, missing, beaten, starving, poor, drop-outs, have no relatives or siblings, sold into prostitution, thrown into jail, forced into psych wards and are otherwise permanently destroyed then report on that and don’t threaten a person you don’t even know.
Foster homes are no more likely than any other home to have abuse going on.
And you were not being “threatened.” Anyone who abuses or neglects their kids should be reported, and I will be the first one to step forward to do it if I know it is happening. And AGAIN, mandated reporters only make a report to the state. Mandated reporters have no authority to take children out of the home.
Mandated reporters will report a scrape on the knee from a kid falling off a bike, just to cover their butts.
That is completely untrue. If that were true, teachers would be spending a chunk of every day contacting DHHS and that just doesn’t happen.
I actually don’t agree with the state on several situations I know of where it removed children from the home based on poor training by state workers and even poorer supervision. And don’t get me started on guardian ad litems. But the fact is, if a child tells me they are or were being abused by someone, I need to report that. I do not report a bruise or a scrape without a lot more evidence that something is going on.
I hear in one case co-workers conspire to report there boss because one of them wants the boss’s job. And CPS was coaching them. Really nasty stuff!! Not because the child was being abused!! Lies to screw up the boss’s life, and get there job!!
Why wasn’t Carlson training law enforcement on sexual abuse? Then he could have gotten the “child porn for his research” as he stated. He was so ballsy about everything else I’m surprised he didn’t.
I HAVE ALSO SEEN MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS LIE TO CPSS, EXAGGERATE, AND USE CPS TO RETALITE AGAINST PARENTS OUT OF SPIT. MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THROWING SANCTAMONIOUS JUDGEMENTS ON PARENTS AND WRONGFULLY PROFILING THEM BEFORE KNOWING THE FACTS.
YOU CAN GO TO THAT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS REVIEW SITE AND LET THE PUBLIC KNOW. KEEP IT SIMPLE, YOU DON’T HAVE TO PUT ANY OF YOUR PERSONAL INFO, BUT ALSO KEEP IT TRUTHFUL. THERE IS VERY LITTLE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR FALSE REPORTING TO CPS.
IT WASTES TAX PAYERS MONEY TO INVESTIGATE THESE FALSE REPORTS. PUTS CHILDREN AT RISK OF BEING TAKING BY CPS INTO ABUSIVE SITUATIONS FROM NON OFFENDING LOVING HOMES.
CPS ALSO FALSE ADVERTISE. THEY SAY THEY KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER, THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT, INFACT THEY WILL LIE ALSO TO GET YOUR CHILD. THEY SAY THEY PROVIDE SERVICES, ONLY ONES THAT DRUG YOUR CHILD!!
CPS IS OUT OF CONTROL!
ALSO OF NOTE; YOU WILL NEVER SEE A REPORT MADE AGAINST ANY SO CALLED EXPERT! PLUS THEY ARE JUST OUT TO MAKE MORE REASONS TO GET MORE KIDS TO MAKE MORE MONEY!!
My first question is: “Who is going to pay for this training?”
When a person receives state sanctioned training, it is for the purposes of executing a specific task and generating a document of said event on a state authorized form. In a court of law, the training can always be brought into question regarding the validity of the execution of the task and the generation of said report.
In child welfare, the mandated reporter is protected by statutory anonymity where there is never the opportunity to raise qualifications of immunity.
I agree the 1960s concept of the duties of the mandated reporter are out of date but so is the guaranteed anonymity of the mandated reporter. If mandatory training for mandatory reporters is to be the goal of Maine, then so too should be the removal of anonymity. An individual has the right to face their accuser, except in child welfare.
I would gladly give up my anonymity as a mandated reporter if that would make you happy and save a child or two from evil people like Carlson. I can defend my self….the child cannot.
This has nothing to do with my happiness. This is about the Confrontation Clause of the U.S. Constitution 6th Amendment and 14th Amendment of Due Process.
This is not 16th century Salem where we can justifiably burn a witch because someone made the accusation.Please, stand up and state your name or refrain from the discussion.
Actually Ms. Tran I have given my name in the past when I made three phone calls to DHHS for suspected child abuse and elder abuse. I am a mandated reporter in Maine and I will make that phone call anytime I suspect a child or an elderly person has or is the subject of abuse or neglect.
I will provide DHHS with any requested information about me, my agency, my position, etc…I am not concerned about my safety in the least.
And as far as the 6th and 14th Amendment is concerned, there is no violation. DHHS and the police will conduct the investigation based on the information provided and develop the case independently. If the SCOTUS felt there was any violation the Bangor PD could not use the anonymous tip line that they have or the MSP could not use confidential informants to develop cases.
Ms. Tran I am going to try and ask this question as respectfully as I can. I see you are a candidate for State Representative in the 4th District in Michigan which raises the following question, why are you concerned about the laws in Maine if you are running for elected office in Michigan?
I personally consult the Minority Chairman of the U.S, House Judiciary Committee. The election is over and this is a public issue of civil rights.
SCOTUS could only “feel” if a public issue has been raised. Please cite the case and published opinion.Again, why is an individual denied the right to face their accuser?
And what about the civil rights of a child to be free from emotional, physical and sexual abuse?
And what about about the civil rights of the elderly to be free from emotional, physical and sexual abuse?
What makes you think that those protected children aren’t physically or sexually abused in Maine’s foster care system?
http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/boys-fathercharged_2012-05-09.html
So your answer to Child abuse is to do what?
Nothing?
Leave them in the hands of the abuser?
What do YOU suggest we do to protect children?
That’s a rather broad question considering that every case is different.
What is often referred to as abuse comes in many different forms and severity levels. Not every case of abuse is sexual in nature, and not every “abused child” is going to die. Circumstances are different in every case. In some cases, you remove the child and put them with a family member such as a grandparent. In other cases you can provide services to the parents such as drug treatment or counseling or even parenting education because a little support can go a long way without ripping a family apart. Also, you have to stop assuming that the words “child abuse” or “neglect” have a one size fits all meaning or that there is only one answer to protecting them. There are many ways that things can be done. Maine would also do well to open up the courts and the agency. Make things a little more transparent. All of this secrecy is not protecting the kids. Only the guilty.
And why the interest in Maine law? Doesnt’t the state of Michigan have problems of there own to focus on?
Parents of Maine Beware!
Big brother is watching you through the eyes of Mandated Reporters. No abuse or neglect necessary. Just a phone call.
So you are OK with the mandated reporters outlined in the MSP that did nothing as required by law and allowed the abuse to continue and possibly expand?
Not really, but I’m also not OK with these major failures being used as a springboard for major policy change, such as new, tougher mandated reporter laws with little or no understanding or discussion on the harm that such laws could bring about for innocent families who are then forced into intrusive and invasive investigations by DHHS.
http://wnep.com/2012/08/07/protecting-children-or-tool-of-revenge/
I cannot speak to what happens in Pennsylvania but I can speak to what happens here in Maine as I am one of those covered by the Mandated Reporting law.
I have been in public safety for 25+ years and have made that phone call three time (twice for suspected child abuse/neglect and once for suspected elder abuse/neglect). As I recall I had to tell DHHS who I was, the agency I worked for, my position, what I saw, etc…
While I understand your position and can agree with it, I keep going back to that person (identified by job title only) that told the MSP they knew of a “half dozen” victims. If they knew why didn’t they report what they knew???!!!
By the way, I think the law we have is fine with one possible change and that change is this. There has to be some sort of penalty when a person knows, not suspects, not thinks but KNOWS that a person is abusing a child and does not report that knowledge. As far as I am concerned that therapist is as guilty of sexual abuse of children as Carlson was for not reporting it and stopping the abuse.
And that is why I believe a penalty needs to be added to the existing law.
It’s the same everywhere. Maine, Pennsylvania, wherever you go. I use that as an example only to show the problems caused by overzealous mandated reporting laws which can even criminalize good people who are just to dumb to pick up on the signs.
Also, I have no problem with the concept of protecting kids from pedophiles. Obviously, that’s not what happened in this case. Nor is that what they’re doing in Maine on a regular basis. If it was, I wouldn’t have much to say about it.
First of all, Maine has one of the most secretive child welfare systems in the country, so it’s rather difficult to pull out non-existent news reports to use as examples, unless of course you look at that kid in Arundel who threw the baby into the chair. I believe a few of the news reports that came out briefly mentioned that that particular former foster child was taking meds for PTSD because he was “molested by various foster parents. ” Which suggests that although most foster parents in Maine are good people, there are those pesky pedophiles who haven’t been caught yet who manage to pass all the background checks and molest the kids who are placed in their homes by Child Protective Services, which of course usually starts with that phone call to the child abuse hotline.
“The affidavit also noted that Collins-Faunce has been taking medication for post-traumatic stress disorder as he was physically and sexually abused as a boy by various foster parents.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2145923/Why-didnt-help-week-old-baby-beaten-death-father-hospitalized-broken-arm-month.html#ixzz230AmQeCA
http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/boys-fathercharged_2012-05-09.html
Here is the handbook that every parent should have.. Parents need training on how to stop CPS abuse.
http://simplebooklet.com/publish.php#wpKey=pHlbUUEaAKtsJwgmqMksv3#page=0
There is room for improvement on both sides of the fence, but I see far fewer problems on the reporter side than on the investigative side. What assurances exist that abuse reported will be properly investigated. Far too often a school will report abuse by a non-custodial parent during weekend visitation and the custodial parent and household is the target of the investigation; often resulting in the child being placed in full custody of the alleged abuser. This has happened often enough that many mandated reporters have been spooked away from filing a report. Mandated reporting is supposed to reduce risk; not increase it. In many states the investigative laws are too open ended to insure that the report is handled in a proper manner.
This is not about training, do you think police, sheriffs, deputies, and therapists did not have adequate training? This is about failure to act, in their lack of action they condoned it hoping when the music stopped, if it ever did, they would still have a chair. There is a lot of focus on Beardsly, he is not even in law enforcement! The deputies did not want to say anything because Ross would probably jump on them, you don’t think a patrol ever noticed carlson’s car in the dark part of the parking lot and thought to check it out ( this is setting aside the detective who was already informed of it and ignored it). This is not about hindsight 20/20 it is about glaringly obvious issues ignored. Why? These folks all new he was a perv, did the kids have injuries, I doubt it, what would they have reported? They all had tools at their disposal to look a little closer, but none of them did. What were they afraid of?
The problem is that the there are many situations in which mandated reporters must make a choice to report or not to report. Most of the time the report only needs to report to a supervisor who makes the call. There are too few investigators and often times not enough witnesses to come forward to substantiate a report. You see a worker slap a kid but the person is well liked in a work clique and has people that will say it didn’t happen. I have seen this many times in my fields and careers. Retaliation is real and convincing reason not to report in this economy. You take the time to report and do the right thing, the case ends up not being substantiated and you end up getting harassed or written up afterwards for an offense that was not directly related to the report. In some cases fired usually within 6 months of the report. Hopefully DHHS does follows up on the worse cases and nails the perpetrators.
No amount of training will change the system but at least it educates people as to what they are suppose to do.