LEWISTON, Maine — Disagreement about what a recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling, which upheld key provisions of the federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, means for Maine could end up in federal court.

Ana Hicks, a senior policy adviser with the advocacy group Maine Equal Justice Partners, said Wednesday her organization could be among those that sue the state government if it proceeds with reductions in Medicaid programs. The cuts are part of a budget-balancing bill passed by lawmakers earlier this year.

Hicks’ organization, which has sued the state in the past when it believed Maine was not meeting requirements of federal law, is waiting to see whether Gov. Paul LePage’s administration proceeds with Medicaid cuts, which Equal Justice Partners says are illegal.

Hicks said she was waiting for direction from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on what states should do. She hopes Maine will wait for that guidance before implementing reductions.

In question is whether the state needs to apply for a federal waiver to make the changes, or whether the state can simply make amendments to its existing Medicaid plan and move forward with the reductions.

At stake are state programs, including MaineCare, the state’s Medicaid program, which covers about 24,000 income-eligible 19- and 20-year-olds. Dropping that coverage would save the state about $4 million.

Other changes in the budget would cut eligibility for the state’s Medicare Savings Plan and Drugs for the Elderly and Disabled Program. About 1,825 people would lose the Medicare benefits; 260 would lose the drug program benefits. The state would save about $3 million a year with these changes.

“We would hope they would not move forward,” Hicks said. “But if they do, we would then look at what our options would be to protect those people.”

Hicks said additional “guidance” to states from the federal government on implementing the law is expected soon.

Republican lawmakers who crafted the changes and passed them into law, largely without Democratic votes, have said state DHHS spending on health insurance programs for the poor is unsustainable and Maine can no longer afford such generous offerings.

Maine is one of 14 states in the nation to offer Medicaid coverage to 19- and 20-year-olds, and that inclusion has left others, including some with disabilities, on a waiting list for health care, Republicans argued.

LePage’s stance has been that the state must conserve and protect those services for the “most vulnerable” populations.

The governor and Maine Attorney General William Schneider have said the recent Supreme Court ruling allows the state to make the cuts and that Maine’s DHHS can simply amend its MaineCare plan to reflect the changes.

Their interpretation of the Supreme Court ruling is in direct conflict with that of Democratic lawmakers, Hicks and others who say the ruling affirms that states can’t be forced to expand Medicaid programs, but they cannot cut existing Medicaid programs, as lawmakers did this year.

As of Wednesday, the governor was sticking to his position.

“Maine believes the Supreme Court decision confirms that states have the flexibility to manage their Medicaid program without risking the loss of federal funds,” LePage spokeswoman Adrienne Bennett wrote in an email message.

“Instead of seeking a waiver, which is a complex process, we have begun to draft a State Plan Amendment in order to implement what was approved by the Legislature,” Bennett wrote. “A State Plan Amendment is required for any change in Medicaid services and is within the normal course of doing business within the Medicaid program.”

If the governor is wrong, the Legislature will face another $12 million DHHS budget shortfall, according to Democratic lawmakers from Lewiston.

Sen. Margaret Craven and Rep. Peggy Rotundo, Lewiston Democrats, said that party warned that the cuts, without a waiver permitting them from the federal government, would be in violation of new federal health care law.

“[These cuts] are illegal,” Craven said. “If the governor takes the savings that they booked without the waiver, the punishment for the state of Maine would be to lose all federal Medicaid funding. It would be my guess he is not going to go there and we will actually have the $12 million shortfall to make up. They shouldn’t have booked those things to begin with and we kept saying it’s a make-believe budget they were passing.”

Prior communications between state officials and U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius indicate the state, were it to apply for a waiver to enact the cuts, would not be approved, Craven said.

“We are not going to be allowed to do this, and in which case, there will be a hole in the budget that we are going to have to come back to and deal with in January,” Rotundo said.

Hicks said most of the people being cut from the state’s MaineCare program were protected under the federal law, and the recent state budget cuts are in direct conflict with that.

The federal law prohibits states from reducing Medicaid eligibility for strictly budgetary purposes, Hicks said.

She said no other state had been granted a waiver from the federal government to reduce the number of people getting state- and federal-funded health care coverage.

Hicks pointed out that some provisions of the law do allow states to reduce services for those exceeding certain federal income eligibility guidelines, and that a portion of those losing coverage under the recently passed budget would not be protected under the federal law.

The Supreme Court ruling did not address the “maintenance of effort” provisions in the new federal law, Hicks said. That provision was a requirement that states keep intact their existing Medicaid programs or face losses in federal Medicaid revenue.

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    1. First of all – it’s ‘our’ money, since we’re all in this together. With respect to your actual comment…… Yawn. Enough of the feigned hysteria. It’s unbecoming.

      1. Since when did the money Derek and I earn become “our money.”  Ah, I understand. Just since Aboma (that abomination called Obama) became the worst president in my 78 year lifetime and the entitlement mentality finally took over!

        “We are all in this together;”  No way!  You lay claim to our earnings to do your bidding whether it is justified or not simply because of your “you-owe-me” mentality!  Saddle and ride your own horse or start walking! 

        1. That’s the me, me, me, entitlement mentality of the tea party.
          Got news for you we are all in this together no matter how hard to try to separate yourself from the rest of the crowd. Everything affects all of us. It’s not just you you you.

        2. Once taxes are paid, it is “our” money.  If you don’t like taxes than vote in politicians who can somehow keep the government runnign without taxes.

  1. I wonder how many of those “advocates” are having their paychecks sliced by those cuts. Always be suspicious of “advocates” and “non-profits.” Non-profit doesn’t mean they don’t make any money. They just can’t show a profit at the end of the year. They do this by paying their “profits” to their executives before their fiscal year end.

    1. You are right on your comment.  As a family who has a special needs child, the child is continuing to get the services they need.  However there is a war going on between the different agencies that were rewarded contracts.  By the way I personally have found the “advocates” useless and a complete waste of money; .  I am my child’s advocate and have found we are getting better service under Gov LaPage.

  2. I think by his comments and his actions Mr. LePage has made it pretty clear where he stands on the subject of providing assistance of almost any kind to anyone in need. Unless your name is LePage, or you’ve got something he can use (Generally money, power, Halloween candy or your sweat) he couldn’t care less about you. He will not back down from this battle which he will ultimately lose. In the end all his heel dragging and obstruction may very well cost Maine in more ways than financial support for those in need. This one’s gonna cost lives.  VOTE his power (Slim Senate and House majorities) out in November.

    1. I can’t help but wonder how some of the people who helped out Mr. LePage when he was in need feel about how his actions are now affecting others in need. He likes to talk about having it rough when he was growing up but he must know that he certainly wasn’t one of a kind and other people in similar circumstances wouldn’t sacrifice the poor to give to the rich.

      1. Tell me why 19 and 20 year olds in this state have to get health care for free.  Sanity would prevail in helping people with dis abilities First in terms of health care.

        1. First of all his policies don’t just effect 19 and 20 year olds and secondly your assuming that all 19 and 20 year olds are able to take care of themselves. Misfortune doesn’t discriminate by age and it comes in all forms of illnesses. I am no more in favor of able bodied people sitting on their backside than you are but I don’t paint everyone with the same brush.

          1. Please re read the article.  The article clearly stated that Maine is one of 14 states that offers Medicaid to 19 and 20 year olds.  If people in Maine of Any age have a major illness, they should be helped, anything less is in human.  The article was not written in good description about this and you will see that if you go back and read it again.  I do NOT paint everyone with the same brush either.

      2. Everyone can look back and be thankful that someone helped them along the way.  That does not mean that everyone now should expect the taxpaying public to support them without equivocation for an indefite length of time.  When I was in high sch0ol and a troubled student a WWII veteran and former prisoner of war who was the Principal of my high school was a mentor and helper.  However,  I assure you he would have been one of the first to abhor the current you-owe-me entitlement mentality that currently persists in the state of Maine.  He expected me to get my backside in gear and overcome my problems – which thankfully I did!

    2. I totally disagree with your comment.  In the End, it will be the Democrats who have and are embarrassing themselves and their party in the continuous bashing of the Gov.  As usual, they can dish it but cannot take the heat.

      1. A lot of us critics of the Governor (note, not all critics are “bashers”) are not Democrats.

    3. Good point Still, no matter what it costs, even if it costs everything that we all have, we need to spend every last dollar helping people in need.   LePage has just shut the door on every single person in need and refuses to help anyone and has cut the DHHS budget to zero.  No one in Maine will be helped and if you are sick without insurance, according to Stillrelaxin, you will die.  Great post Still, keep up the stupid rhetoric so that we don’t debate what this is all about – Maine’s inability to keep spending more and more when less and less revenue comes through the door.

    4. All interactions between two or more people should be both consensual and voluntary. In order for the government to provide goods or services to one person, they must take from somebody else, as the government has no resources or wealth of its own. I understand your compassion for those in need, but just because you believe that certain people should be entitled to certain services, such as healthcare, does not give you, or anyone else, the right or authority to take from someone else to provide to those you deem “in need.”

      Now, don’t get me wrong, as I believe no one should go hungry or without shelter, or without appropriate access to health care. However, I do not insist that others pay for what I believe others should have, instead I do my best to voluntarily assist those in need.

      This is the way it was in this country for a long time. Communities would watch out for their own, they would provide food, and shelter for those in need. They didn’t demand that  others take care of their own friends and family in need while they instead turned their backs.

      1. Well, they did join together to have poor houses. And I think communities may have provided free burials to those who starved to death or died for lack of ability to afford medical care. Ah, the good old days.

        1. Please read all, I repeat all, the posts on this thread.  But first put your brain in gear and try to put your bias aside while you read.  You may arrive at a new perspective – or NOT!  If not, you have my sympathy!

      2. Your post is very thoughtful and well presented.  However, I suspect it is much too intelligent and rational for this thread!

      3. Back in the day communities did take care of the unfortunate,…
         
        unless the unfortunate were Black (Darkies as my fifth grade teacher in rural Maine called them) , or Irish immigrants, or Italian immigrants, or Mexican immigrants, or Canadian immigrants, or Native American, or didn’t belong to the same church, or behaved in ways the community didn’t like, or were mentally ill, or ….
         
        And rich communities took better care than poor communities.  It was your tough luck if you were needy in a poor community.
         
        The world would be a lovelier place if it were as you wish to believe it once was.  But the fact is it never was that way.  It’s a myth, a story to be told to children at bedtime, but was never real.

        We need to deal with reality, not myths

        1. Yeah, and that Canadian immigrant thing came back to bite us. Maybe my parents were right…. I was so sure they were just biased.

        2. There is a big difference now. Roughly half of us Mainers are caring, hugging, bleeding heart Liberals!

          “If the governor is wrong, the Legislature will face another $12 million DHHS
          budget shortfall, according to Democratic lawmakers from Lewiston.”

          Just think of all the hugs they could share if the 550,000  of them were to caringly and compassionately each send $25.00 to the Maine DHHS… Mythologically speaking, they could wipeout the reality of this shortfall!

          1. Please make an offering to your church just as so many of us do! It will judge righteously and take care of the needy. 

            Unto the Legislature, the Legislature’s and unto God, God’s. 

  3.  I’m glad that people are standing up to the irresponsible, short-sighted cuts proposed by this lousy governor. 

    1. The Gov. is not at all “Short-Sighted”.  In fact he is looking ahead and too many people are so busy criticizing his every statement that they cannot see his goals.  He is also Not “Irresponsible”  and quite frankly, it appears that every Nay Sayer is a liberal with an agenda .  The best solution would be to create ways for everyone to benefit.  

        1. Blame Blame Blame.   It gets Nothing accomplished.  You are correct.  The Gov. Does have an agenda.  He is trying to get a Budget to work and it means cutting back in many areas.  This is something the Democrats do not know how to do.  As I said before,  if the bashing would turn to ideas of solutions to our financial woes, perhaps, more positive outcomes would come forth.  And the Gov. has better insight than you give him credit.  Blame gets Zich accomplished.  Give him workable ideas.

          1. baloney.  this is serious and you do not see it for the truth that is really is.  He Has no choice But to make cuts.  Every part of the USA is making cuts too.  I suggest you read other news sources to try to see other perspectives.  Make Believe it what got us into this financial mess.  I refer to the previous governor.  enough said.

          2. You are totally incorrect in how I think.  I would cut govt. Handouts to the ones who are stealing from the system. I refer to Welfare abuse.  You know, the drug dealers who collect welfare, they can afford to pay for $150.00 pair of sneakers and smoke cigarettes,  get pregnant and expect the People to pay the bill.  That is happening everywhere.  It needs to have a serious tune-up.

          3. Oh yes,wbt30, “try reading other sources.”  Try Faux News and listen to Rush Limpbag et al.  Now that’s where you’ll get the real scope. 

          4. Republican’s believe we can cut from the social safety net but we must increase our defense spending to be safe from the “terrorists”.

            How can we fix our financial house by cutting social spending, approximately 5% of the discretionary budget, but we can’t touch Defense Spending, which is currently over 60% of our discretionary spending?

          5. See how easy they are, wbt30?  Open hammock’s head, pour in  misinformation, wait for the sponge to absorb it and … just like magic, another Teapublican is born. 

          6. In a previous article, it was stated that the Democrats had presented a budget that balanced without cutting the medicare etc. as they thought at the time that these cuts would not fly with the federal government.  Guess the Dems. can cut, sorry to burst your bubble.

          7.  If our great Governor is so great at cutting back on things, then why don’t he do some cutting back in the Government. Like their pay, make the people who work in the Government pay for their own insurance, Put insurance on their automobiles. That would save the State of Maine a lot of money and take that money to help the people who are in need, the once who really need help and not the once who are to lazy to go to work.

        2. The bridge gets more expensive!  Wow! At this rate I will be able to really retire even with the expected Obama tax increases!

          1. Yep, that $98 or so penalty for scofflaws is sure going to wreck your budget. Some folks are indeed planning on getting the benefits of health insurance once they get sick or have a serious accident, depending on the rest of us to contribute toward their coverage until illness strikes. I think the “tax” is an excellent idea for folks like you who are hoping for a free ride.

        3. Actually he does see what is going on.  There are people in Maine who have gotten rich off  the truly needy.  

      1. LePage has the vision of a lemming.  His chums at ALEC say “cut,” and so LePage says, “Cut.”  LePage is totally out of touch with the needs of the low and middle income people of this state.

    2. Lousy Governor/   just because your democrat Lost, should not make you so sour.  how about creating some good suggestions to Help the Gov..  after all, you most likely are a Maine tax payer.  Give solutions NOT Gripes.

    3. No Bangorian there are plenty more of us who support what the governor is doing.  We see through you and your ilk and all your hyperbole.  My loved ones who receive much needed services through Mainecare have not been abandoned.   Matter of fact they are getting better service through this governor.  As for the self serving “advocates”  just ignore them.  Family members need to avoid them at all cost and become your loved one’s advocate.  One of the best things our family ever did was to become our own advocate.   As for the poor souls who don’t have family to help you you’re screwed because no self serving “advocate” is going to help you.  They will only use you but never get you the help you need.  Hopefully you’ll get tied in with an agency that will take care of  your needs.  Maine is blessed with many good workers who truly care, but avoid “advocates”.

    1. Starting to notice a pattern with your comments… well.. at least you’re dependable!

  4. I’ve been thinking that LePage’s actions (or inaction) are illegal and it looks like a lawsuit is warranted.  How much useless money will that cost us?

    1. Are you a lawyer/  How do you know if this is illegal or not?  Why does there Always have to be a lawsuit/  The Gov. is doing his job and many here cannot stand the fact that he is NOT overspending.

      1. I guess it was okay for the Gov to pursue a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act. The President was just doing his job and as you know the Gov wasted our tax dollars.

        1. No, I do not agree with you .  The Gov. did NOT waste our tax dollars.  Gov. Le Page did the correct thing in his challenge.  It seems pointless to try to explain anything to a liberal. You see ONLY what you want to see.  That is very sad.

        2. The president just doing his job?  How?  by attacking the foundations of our republic and attempting to move the nation toward a socialist state?  Take off your left-wing liberal/progressive/socialist rose-colored glasses and look at the real world and the administration headed by the worst president in my 78 year lifetime!

          1. A “socialist state”? That’s what right-wing media want you to think. Try visiting Canada…  Here’s what happened when one Republican moved there:

            “When I moved to Canada in 2008, I was a die-hard conservative Republican. So when I found out that we were going to be covered by Canada’s Universal Health Care, I was somewhat disgusted…

            Then she needed–and received–medical care: “I started to feel differently about Universal government mandated and regulated Health care. I realized how many times my family [back in the US] had avoided hospital care because of our lack of coverage. When I mentioned to Canadians that I had been in a car accident as a teen and hadn’t gone into the hospital, they were shocked! …And the back issue I had since the accident would have been helped by prescribed chiropractic care which would have been at no cost to me…

            “When I asked for prayers for my little brother who had been burned in a camping accident, they were all puzzled why the story did not include immediately rushing him to the hospital. When they asked me to clarify and I explained that many people in the States are not insured and they try to put off medical care unless absolutely needed, they literally could not comprehend such a thing…

            “I started to wonder why I had been so opposed to government mandated Universal Health care. Here in Canada, everyone was covered. If they worked full-time, if they worked part-time, or if they were homeless and lived on the street, they were all entitled to the same level of care if they had a medical need. People actually went in for routine check-ups and caught many of their illnesses early, before they were too advanced to treat…

            “And lest you think that the Canada system is draining the government resources, their budget is  very close to balanced every year. They’ve had these programs for decades. Last year Canada’s national debt was 586 billion dollars, the USA has 15.5 trillion dollars in national debt. Canada has about one 10th the population of the US, so even accounting for size, the USA is almost 3 times more indebted. And lest you think that taxes are astronomical, our median income taxes each year were only slightly higher than they had been in the States, and we still got a large chunk of it back each year at tax time…

            “In the end, I don’t see Universal health care as an evil thing anymore. Comparing the two systems, which one better values the life of each person? Which system is truly more family friendly?”

            [http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/07/12/how-i-lost-my-fear-universal-health-care]

          2. Despite what you were taught by the propaganda pushed during the Cold War,  socialism is not communism….they are separate entities……many European nations have socialized medicine and are not living under Red Rule….England is one that comes to mind, another is Belgium….both have royals as well as democratic like government structures.   I believe most of the Nordic nations  have socialized medicine also…Canada too….Socialized medicine will not negate our capitalist rule in any way other than to give the working man(who the capitalist needs)  less to worry about….might put a few insurance companies in a snit but they have too much power anyway…..please note that I didn’t use the term “democratic” rule to describe our political structure….that is because it no longer exists….we are a capitalist nation….ruled by the rich……

          3. I definitely know the difference between “socialism” and “communism.”  And yes, there are many countries in europe that have moved toward socialism.  You fail to mention Greece, Spain, Italy and (coming) France.  How is socialism working for them?  In Greece and Spain it is producing something I would call anarchy.  Is that what we want in this country?  I think NOT!

          4. We were never a “democratic” nation (at least since our constitution was ratified.)  The United states was and (thankfully) still is a republic.  And the incompetents that are attempting to push us to the socialist brink and possible anarchy (as in Greece) can be voted out in November!

      2. No, I’m not a lawyer and I doubt that you are either.  There seems to be a fairamount of opinion by those who should know that it would be illegal, enough that IMO attempted defense of unsound policy would be a huge waste of money for all of us, and profiable only for the lawyers (cue your favorite lawyer joke).

        1. Nor am I a lawyer.  I do not agree with you or Rep. Craven. Opinions often snowball and this appears to have created a huge ball.  wait to see how it plays out.

    2. If thats the case, only 14 states are complying with the law. Did I read anything wrongly?

  5. Do you personally know this about non-profits?   If so, name them.   I can tell you there is NO one including any Executves geting rich at non-profits.   Instead, I think you will find most give money out of their pockets to help meet unmet needs.

    1.  I can give you two CEO’s at non-profits that are getting rich right off the bat. From the BDN Feb 14, 2010:

      http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2010/02/14/news/hospital-ceos-in-maine-paid-above-average/

      In 2007-08, Maine Medical Center in Portland paid its CEO $3 million,
      including a bonus when he left.

      MaineHealth, the parent of Maine
      Medical, paid its CEO $1.2 million.

      In 2005-06, Peter Chalke was CEO of both Central Maine Medical Center
      and Central Maine Healthcare. He earned just under $790,000: nearly
      $466,000 in salary and nearly $324,000 in benefits and deferred
      compensation, including retirement. A year later, his compensation more
      than doubled to about $2 million, including salary, benefits and
      deferred compensation.

      And that was a while ago… the BDN listed the compensation of all hospital CEO’s just a little while ago but can’t find it right now…

      Any more questions?

      1.  Not to mention those  5 legislators who took how many millions with them for their private businesses when they left office through a “loophole” in the law…..wonder who created the loophole?  You people can’t see the forest for the trees…welfare, social security, supplemental security are all just drops in the bucket….the real thieves are the politicians and they keep you all busy fighting amongst yourselves with their rhetoric while they are leaving through the back door with the goods….

  6. The trouble with Democrats is; “sooner or later they run out of other people’s money!”

    1. If you take your blinders off you might see that history actually shows that the Republicans are much bigger spenders of other peoples money than the Democrats. Just think back a few years. Two wars unpaid for-Tax breaks for the top 1% unpaid for-A massive prescription drug program unpaid for. These things are responsible for why our economy is where it is today because you couldn’t possibly pay off all that debt in a few years.

      1. If you believe this, I have an unused steel bridge across the Penobscot river at Bucksport that I will gladly sell you!

        1. I know people like you don’t have much use for facts but they are what they are and you can deny them but you can’t change them. Was you sleeping during the 8 years of the Bush Administration or are you just not intelligent enough to know what was going on then?

        2. Have you already forgotten that GW Bush got us into two wars (one on false pretenses) while slashing revenue by giving tax breaks to his millionaire cronies?

      2. I recall some large sums of Grant money in the last gov. administration that went to solar and it not work but the installers were paid.  that grant money was a waste of taxpayers hard earned money.

  7. Yes, don’t cut money from anywhere.  We have no money to pay, but hey, you can’t cut it here, or there or anywhere else without just being seen as evil.  Yep, I guess we just keep going back to printing more money and tax the wealthy to death so everybody else gets theirs.

    1. So Pondlady,did it ever occur to you that he is doing all he can to get the state Out of debt? Since liberals love to spend, and the past gov. did indeed, Spend,  this Gov. inherited a huge pile of unpaid bills.  When there is no money in the reserve, where do you find money to pay the bills.  He is not an evil man,  the only evil is when people Only see what they want.  In this case, the liberals are just plain PO that they are Not getting Their way to SPEND.  

      1. “So Pondlady,did it ever occur to you that he is doing all he can to get the state Out of debt?” 

        WOW! You didn’t notice the first thing that he did! Tax Breaks!

        Thats like trying to save a Drowning Man by tying a bag of Bricks to his feet!

        LOL

        1. actually dilbert, none of this is topic is at all funny.  everyone has their own opinion.  we live in a country of people believing in Entitlements.  and it Has to end.  too many milk the system.  so tell me How the Gov. can do the job at hand?

    2. Have you never heard of the tax breaks being given to millionaires, both at the state and federal levels? They are hardly “taxed to death.” Their taxes are at an extraordinarily low rate, compared to years past. Yet they have enlisted a chorus of working people (entirely Republican, I suspect) to moan and groan and whine for them.

  8.  I can give you two CEO’s at non-profits that are getting rich right off the bat. From the BDN Feb 14, 2010:

    http://bangor-launch.newspackstaging.com/2010/02/14/news/hospital-ceos-in-maine-paid-above-average/

    In 2007-08, Maine Medical Center in Portland paid its CEO $3 million,
    including a bonus when he left.

    MaineHealth, the parent of Maine
    Medical, paid its CEO $1.2 million.

    In 2005-06, Peter Chalke was CEO of both Central Maine Medical Center
    and Central Maine Healthcare. He earned just under $790,000: nearly
    $466,000 in salary and nearly $324,000 in benefits and deferred
    compensation, including retirement. A year later, his compensation more
    than doubled to about $2 million, including salary, benefits and
    deferred compensation.

    And that was a while ago… the BDN listed the compensation of all hospital CEO’s just a little while ago but can’t find it right now…

    Any more questions?

  9. Hopefully we will elect the right people come November and they will get rid of ” The Affordable Healthcare Act “. There is nothing affordable about it. We need sensible healthcare reform.

    1. And what would “the right people” put in it’s place to fix the healthcare issue in this country?

       Or would they just go back to the way it was because it was working so well?

    2. Oh we will, maineboy, we will.  The teapublicans will be left up the creek without a paddle, while the rest of us try to get the ship upright again.

      1. so girl, who is going to pay for your ride if the Othas are up the creek with no paddle.  ?

      1. the money saved from stopping Pelosi and her booze flights should be pay for it in full.

  10. A “prudent” Governor would not cut taxes when the state is “broke” and can’t pay it’s bills. He is an embarrassment to the office.

      1. Not just me,but a lot of us think he’s an embarrassment.  Not too much light coming out of Augusta lately, especially from the Prince of Darkness.

        1. Perhaps Gopher, you have been in hibernation.  I see him as a Gov. who is doing his job.

          1. If you see him as a “Gov. who is doing his job” perhaps you’ve been hanging around the outhouse too long.

          2. He IS a Gov. who IS doing his job.  If there were not so many anti Mainers here spewing rant against him, then maybe yall could suggest better areas to create cuts in funds, and create employment opportunities.  

          3. Ok, I get it now, hammockbear.  The “yall” was the clue.  You are not a native Mainer.  You moved up here from somewhere down south and think we need you to straighten us all out.
            Trust me, we got along just fine before you and LePew came along and we’ll do just fine afterwards.  Mainers are very bright people, if you hadn’t noticed and we will find our own solutions, ALEC and the Heritage group notwithstanding.
            And now you have been added to my list of “Commenters who aren’t worth my time,” so this will be my final reply to you.

  11. I hope all republican lead states follow the same path Lepage is forging ahead on. The Unaffordable Healthcare Fiasco is nothing but a slow motion train wreck that will be stuck in litigation for years to come. Passing a bill of this magnitude written in about 15 minutes and using Chicago style politics benefits who again? Those that cannot afford healthcare? They now will have to claim it on the tax return. Still no insurance. The Flexible Spending Account that allowed $5000 of pre tax dollars to pay for out of pocket, now is down to $2500. Who benefits with that cut again? Hey la soof open your eyes, this is not the Canadian system. This is the USA.

      1. Wow-your old pastor’s sure got you filled to the rim.  Ever try doing some independent reading and learning some facts?

  12. Good Lord you are deluded. Be careful who you want shipped out. Next bus ride could be yours.

  13. the only assistance these people need is from GOD. get up off their couch and kneel down to jesus!

  14. You just keep on Relaxin and maybe some brillaince will be bestowed upon you to make you realize that state assistance is NOT a life long career.  Short term only!!!

  15. Charity starts at home, lets see Lepage and the legislature give up their health benefits as well.

    1. The only problem is, he doesn’t have a home in Maine.  Getting him out of the expensive pad called the Blaine House would sure be a start back toward  a sane Maine.

  16. Lepage promised bus rides for those people day one.  Another broken promise by the draft dodger and chief.  

  17. The article above is about people who can’t afford health insurance. You equate them with panhandlers. You are what’s wrong with this country.

  18. It sucks our state has a ‘crisis’ in regard to a few measly million dollars towards healthcare in a country where billions are spent on war. I guess it’s all a part of being free.

  19. We have become an unsustainable welfare state in which there are more government beneficiaries than their are benefactors. We have created an entire generation of people who have had nearly all incentives removed for improving their own lives. It is not too late to turn back, but it is clear that is not going to happen. And unfortunately, like all great empires, our endless wars and welfare status will be our demise.

    1. True!
      We have become an unsustainable welfare for the Rich State in which there are more corporate  beneficiaries  than their are benefactors. We have created an entire generation of people who have had nearly all incentives removed for improving their fellow mans  lives. It is not too late to turn back, but it is clear that is not going to happen. And unfortunately, like all great empires, our endless wars and prasies to the rich and powerful will be our demise.

  20. Medical insurance is so grossly overpriced it’s out of reach for most honest, able bodied and hard working people out there… The reasons are extremely simple.

    #1: Medical Doctors, practitioners or executives are grossly overpaid.

    #2: The price of Malpractice insurance is hugely expensive and to a degree drives medical treatment costs.

    #3: Medical Insurance companies are generally owned, operated and supervised by investors, who feel it’s their god given right to make as much money off their victims, i.e. clients/customers, as is absolutely possible.

    Tort reform is the answer.

    Create a criminal element to some of the issues currently litigated in civil court and increase the criminal financial penalties against Doctors who, after all should be criminally liable for their actions many times. These fines can be diverted to a victims fund.

    We’ve also got to eliminate the GROSSLY excessive awards given out to purported victims of medical malpractice, most times through an underhanded, shady settlement process. Medical malpractice suits, if they must be addressed through civil litigation should be forced in front of a jury. Settlements out of court should be deemed illegal, and the maximum awards that can be issued should be severely limited to make the victim, plaintiff whole, NOTHING more!

    Our medical system is broken, too the point that it will soon implode if nothing is done. Obamacare is not the answer! Supreme court judges legislating from the bench is 100% unconstitutional and should NEVER have been allowed. Telling people, who wonder sometimes where their next meal is going to come from, that they have shell out yet more money as a penalty/tax is asinine.

    I think in additions to the Tort reforms I suggested above; I think time limited price control measures should be instituted, long enough to get a handle on the mess. We don’t need Obamacare, we need commons sense legislation, but, as it is, the practitioners of the medical sciences represent a large cross sections of the wealthy 1% in America. In addition to holding a majority of America’s wealth, they also command a great deal of power through the legislative process, frankly because they, unlike those of us who work hard just to eat and keep a roof over our heads, they have the time and finances to impose their will into said process.

    I’ve seen many people in this forum refer to uninsured people as freeloaders… I’ll let you in on a little secret, for many years I did not have medical insurance, but you know what, America’s taxpayers didn’t pay a dime of my medical bills, I paid them all, I’m still paying some… This is how it works for the majority of people without insurance. Sure, the freeloaders exist, but I think paining the picture with such a wide brush is idiotically offensive, and intended to be such. 

    People like me built America, this is my country! I fought and I bled for it, and I stand ready to take it back, through whatever means within my power or may become necessary.

  21. Right on!  Thanks for refering to the “Democrat party” not the “Democratic party” since no such entity exists!

    1. I think if you check at the Secretary of State’s office in Augusta where political parties register their names, you’ll find there is a Maine Democratic Party registered but no Democrat Party.

      1. Ah yes! But do you feel that you have a real voice in the party or is it dominated by unions, government employees, NAACP, AARP etc, etc?

        1. Oddly enough, and something you seem to neglect, union members, government employees, NAACP members, AARP members, farmers, small business owners (like me), stockholders, mothers, students and others who are Democrats are people. 

          You assume we don’t think for ourselves.  But we do.

          We just disagree with you, that’s all.

          1. Stockholders are people, and in the purest sense stockholders are the corporation. So, I don’t have a problem with corporations (or unions) making political donations. I think the stockholders (and union members) should vote on who to donate to and how much though. It shouldn’t be left to executives of corporations or of unions.

            Another problem with corporations and unions though is, are they American people? Can a corporation half owned by a foreign dictator (in a country that receives billions in American aid, for instance) secretly donate millions to a campaign? Right now, I guess they can.

          2. As another small business owner I accept your couteous post and your opinion as one who thinks for themselves!  My previous post was directed to those (many who have posted on this thread) who toe a party line without justification or true convictions.

            You have my best regards!

          3. But you see, Jason, therein lies the problem.  We think for ourselves.  When you add to that the fact that we have the brains to do so, it really compounds the problems in their eyes.  If only we would be sponge-brained and soak up every thing our leaders tell us, the world would be perfect. Ha!

  22. Too bad you don’t believe in the Constitution, DC.   It wasn’t written with just you in mind.  By the way, did you know that health insurance is manditory for State University students?  maybe your narrow mind didn’t consider that.  Imagine trying to be a ful time student , supporting yourself, and paying over $1000 a month for insurance.  You see, not everyone in need is a lazy bum.  You need to get out more!

  23.  ‘…..is waiting to see whether Gov. Paul LePage’s administration proceeds with Medicaid cuts, which Equal Justice Partners says are illegal.’   Illegal smegal…..as if LeNitwit cares about legality or people who need healthcare……’get off the couch and get a job’  too bad none of these people are related to LeNitwit perhaps he could hire them like he has with the rest of his inane family…… Nepotism ‘Open for business’ ….pathetic.

  24. Okay, correct me if I am wrong but how can you sue for something that you don’t pay for?  It’s a handed out group of benefits. If I pay for certain aspects of coverage then taking it away could be considered unlawful.  But if you don’t contribute in any way, shape or form then you should not have the right to sue or have someone sue on your behalf for benefit reduction.  It’s gotten to be a CAREER choice for some third, fourth or more generation Welfare recipients.  I pay taxes so people can get those benefits, maybe it’s time the tax PAYERS had a say in what they feel is fair for the Tax RECIEVERS???  It’s not ENTITLEMENT it’s an assistance.  And I know for a fact that those people go to the ER for a spinter.  Cripes, there has even been incidents where people have brought their DOGS and CATS to the ER for care and asked that they stitch them up and put it through like it was their own injury?   Can you say FRAUD and STUPIDITY???

  25. These are the third, fourth, and more generation CAREER people.  Imagine the Depression?  These people would perish in that, because instead fo FOOD and SHELTER their bigger concerns are MEGApriced cell phones and $400 sneakers

  26. I have observed — with very few exceptions–  that an overwhelming number of welfare recipients (especially in large cities that cater to affirmative action programs and state-sponsored social enfeeblement) are grossly overweight and spend most of their time watching television while complaining that they are being discriminated against. In a simplistic paraphrase referencing 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Lenin offered these words of wisdom to 20th century Russians who were on a new course of enlightment: He who doesn’t work doesn’t eat. It’s likely that Lenin had an altogether different take on the Apostle Paul’s epistle. Notwithstanding, I am of the opinion that many of these professional welfare recipients would do well to heed the advise of that inimitable Roman philosopher,  Difficile Pulsat, who offered word of wisdom to the wise: Fames artium magistra (hunger is the teacher of skills).

    1. Matthew 25:34-40
      “Then the King will say to those on his
      right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance,
      the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was
      hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me
      something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed
      clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in
      prison and you came to visit me.’ “Then the righteous will answer him,
      ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you
      something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or
      needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison
      and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth,
      whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did
      for me.’

      Matthew and Paul must have gotten into a fist fight over this one.

      1. thank you for posting this….this is how we are supposed to be….but alas we are not….still it is a passage that gives me hope…..

          1. I suggest you speak with your rabbi, minister, priest, preacher or whatever to find out how your church or temple does before you ask anyone else that question. I’m sure he or she would love to talk with you in real time on the subject. 

          2. Maybe he doesn’t NEED to, anewvoice.  Maybe Gopher understands the simple concept of the Golden Rule and like me and many, many non-churchgoers, putting that into practice on a daily basis is the secret.

    2. Oh here we go again.  Somebody please,please explain something to me:
      How is it that people can quote the bible, chapter and verse, bend it to suit their personal views, and then watch another human suffer and/or die?
      Am I missing something or is this what today’s “being christian” is all about?  ‘Cause if it is, I’m here to tell every single one of you:  you flunked His test.

  27. Lepage has made cuts…..letters went out last week to many that they will lose Mainecare as of August first…a friend of mine received his notice last week…he is disabled receiving 1025 dollars a month from Social Security….not eligible for Medicare until 2013 and with a monthly medication bill of over 1400 dollars a month….he is contemplating suicide…..well guess that is what they want…..one less person on the dole……even though he worked his entire life and became disabled through no fault of his own….he is not on ssi,  an entitlement program  similar to welfare which is what drug addicts get cause they haven’t worked….he is on ssdi which is an INSURANCE program that he paid into all his life while paying his social security taxes….his country has abandoned him because a bunch of republicans want to blame the deficit on the poor…few remember that President Regan took a perfectly solvent Social Security and wrecked it in the eighties by taking the funds hard working Americans paid into it and paying off the national debt.  That’s right folks….money paid by you, me, our parents and friends into a Federal INSURANCE program was used to pay off the debt our politicians created.  That is on top of all the taxes we paid…..while they pay no taxes cause they have set up loop holes in the laws to avoid them.  What do they care….they don’t want for anything….they won’t need Social Security…..they don’t need Mainecare either…..the poor are expendable….shoot, with the Armed Forces now attached to our hospitals through Homeland Security they can just start exterminating us little by little…we sheep will never notice until it is too late…..

    1. Actually it was the Johnson administration that moved the Social Security “trust fund” to the general fund to cover the deficit caused by his “war on poverty!”  Unfortunately, all administrations since then have not had the courage to return the “trust fund” (which now does not exist) to solvency!  Why?  Because it is being used to cover the increasing deficits caused by such actions as the $787 Billion “stimulis” that was given to state and local government workers who support the current Obama administration.

      Your post is correct in only one way; It is true that the money everyone paid into social security was misused, but it was President Johnson who did it, not President Reagan!

  28. Our state constitution requires (meaning it is not optional) a balanced budget. When it comes to cuts, no one wants to pony up. We are one of 14 states (ie a minority of states) that offer coverage to those so young. Those students whose parents have health insurance can stay on their parent’s insurance until they are out of college (pre obama care) and to age 26 now. This state’s taxes are already high on a relatively small population and tax increases are really not an option. Cuts in spending are an immediate fix to the overspending that has occured. Anyone affected by those cuts is likely to be displeased or worse however, continuously expecting taxpayers to pony up the funds is unrealistic.

    1. You are going to pony up one way or the other. Health care is provided to anyone who is sick or injured. The critical point is how is it paid for. We can insure people or we can let them be treated in the most expensive and inefficient way, at the emergency room of a hospital.

      To say that we cant afford this is ridiculous. LePage  just engineered a big tax cut to the highest earners in Maine. More for the rich at the expense of the poor.

      1. We can stop spending what we don’t have and balance the budget. They can only raise taxes so much before they put too high a burden on those paying them.  It isn’t heartless to look at facts and yes, we can’t afford this unless taxes are raised. UNLESS they do the incredible and cut spending. NO ONE  who benefits from government spending is going to applaud that but it is the most fiscally responsible thing to do.

  29. I guess this one will have to be played out in court.  Governor LePage has his point of view, and he is unlikely to be persuaded differently.  We have an election in three and a half months with potentially new officeholders a couple of months after that.  If the people of Maine keep the Republicans in power, many Mainers will only have the court system as a last resort.  Let the judges decide.

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