HOULTON, Maine — Jurors in the trial of the man convicted in the gruesome slayings of two men a nd a 10-year-old boy nearly two years ago in Amity will be back Tuesday in Aroostook County Superior Court to determine whether Thayne Ormsby was insane when he wielded the knife that killed the victims.
A jury of seven men and five women found him guilty on all counts Friday afternoon.
Jurors were not informed of the second phase of the trial until after they had rendered their verdict.
Ormsby, 21, was convicted of three counts of murder and one count of arson in the stabbing deaths of Jeffrey Ryan, 55, Ryan’s son Jesse, 10, and Ryan family friend Jason Dehahn, 30, all of Amity, on June 22, 2010. They were found dead about 27 hours after the killings at the Ryans’ home on U.S. Route 1, according to police.
The defendant did not react when the verdict was read but did ask corrections officers to remove him from the courtroom just seconds after the jury had left the courtroom.
Relatives of the victims said they were not surprised by the verdict.
“I expected this,” said Melanie Dutra, one of Jeffrey Ryan’s daughters and Jesse Ryan’s sister. “There was no doubt that he did it. He confessed. Plus, the police and the deputy attorney general did a wonderful job.”
Dutra attended the trial with her sister Ashley Ryan and brother Shannon Ryan.
Ashley Ryan said she was a bit worried when the jury came back into the courtroom before reaching a verdict and asked the judge for clarification on certain issues, but she also felt that Ormsby would be found guilty.
The family had listened in court as Ormsby, in a videotape of his confession, said he stabbed Jeffrey Ryan “multiple times” in the back when the man turned away from him to show Ormsby some nails in a woodshed behind the trailer.
Neither woman was surprised that one of Jeffrey Ryan’s last acts was to offer to help Ormsby.
“That was who he was,” said Dutra.
“He was always helping people,” said Ashley Ryan. “He wouldn’t turn away anyone.”
Deputy Attorney General William Stokes declined Friday to discuss the sentence he might recommend in Ormsby’s case.
“The trial’s not over yet,” he said, referring to next week’s proceedings, which are scheduled to take up to two days.
Stokes praised the work of investigators and employees at the Maine State Police Crime Lab. DNA from a beer bottle and cigarette left at the scene was matched to Ormsby’s DNA.
“The police work in this case was outstanding and the forensic work done at the crime lab was really impressive,” he said at an impromptu press conference on the courthouse steps after the jury had left.
Stokes also lauded the work done by Maine State Police Detectives Dale Keegan and Adam Stoutamyer. They obtained a detailed confession from Ormsby on July 2, 2010, the day he was arrested, at the police station in Dover, N.H.
The prosecutor said the confession appeared to have been “very important to the jury.”
Defense attorneys James M. Dunleavy and Sarah LeClaire of Presque Isle declined to comment on the case until next week when the second phase of the trial has been completed.
Members of Ormsby’s family attended the trial Friday but did not react when the verdict was announced. The defendant’s mother, Maria Ormsby, and his uncle Steven Ormsby, both of Ellsworth, sat behind him for much of the day.
They were unable to attend previously because they were listed as possible witnesses.
An elderly woman identified by Dunleavy as Ormsby’s maternal aunt was in court every day with her husband. Dunleavy declined to identify the couple.
Ormsby’s mother sat outside the courtroom as the verdict was announced.
Ormsby lived with his uncle from the time he was 12 until he was 17, according to testimony. He was removed from his mother’s home by the Department of Health and Human Services because of physical abuse.
Jurors asked for a read-back of the medical examiner’s testimony after they had deliberated for nearly two hours on Friday. The read-back, which took about 1½ hours, concluded about 2:55 p.m. The verdict was announced about 3:15 p.m.
Dr. Marguerite DeWitt testified on Monday, the first day of Ormsby’s trial. She no longer works for the state. DeWitt now teaches criminal justice at the University of Texas in Huntsville.
All three victims died of multiple stab wounds and — from the positions their bodies were found in — each did what little he could to protect himself or escape his attacker, she said.
When shown a knife Monday that prosecutors had said is the murder weapon, DeWitt said its size and shape were consistent with the wounds inflicted on the victims.
Defense attorney Dunleavy admitted into evidence a second large knife found by police in the search of a tan Lincoln automobile owned by Robert Strout. Maine State Police Detective Micah Perkins testified Tuesday that he found the “survival-type knife” under the front passenger seat. Under questioning by Dunleavy, the detective said there were red-brown stains on the knife.
Perkins testified that the knife — which, unlike the alleged murder weapon, had a serrated edge — was sent to the Maine State Crime Lab for testing, but he did not know the results of those tests.
The defendant grew up in Ellsworth and went to Ellsworth High School until he dropped out his senior year. At the time of the killings, he was living with Strout, 65, and his wife, Joy Strout, 63, in Orient.
The fifth day of Ormsby’s trial began Friday with the defense resting its case without calling any witnesses. The state rested its case Thursday afternoon after playing Ormsby’s videotaped confession for the jury.
Superior Court Justice E. Allen Hunter spent about 25 minutes Friday morning giving instructions to the jury. Lawyers then made their closing arguments.
Stokes told jurors that the evidence matched Ormsby’s confession.
“What he told the detectives and what you heard him say is totally consistent with the evidence,” Stokes said. “The defendant thought he had silenced all the victims. But now, almost two years later, the evidence speaks for Jeffrey Ryan, Jesse Ryan and Jason Dehahn.”
The prosecutor described the crime as “so shocking in its violence and brutality that it almost takes your breath away.”
Stokes urged the jury to find Ormsby guilty on all four charges.
Defense attorney LeClaire suggested that Robert Strout, who was expected to testify against Ormsby but did not, might have been responsible for the crime.
“You may have cause to question Mr. Robert Strout’s role in this case,” she said.
She reminded the jury that two knives had been admitted into evidence and that one of them was found in Strout’s car.
LeClaire asked jurors to take “into account what influences and pressure may have been brought to bear on Mr. Ormsby.”
During his final statement to the jury, Stokes held up the second knife.
“They want you to believe this is the knife,” he said. “Don’t you think if Dr. DeWitt had seen something that was a telltale sign of this serrated edge, she would have mentioned it? It’s all a distraction.”
The trial, which had been scheduled to conclude on April 20, most likely was shortened by a couple of days when the prosecution decided not to call Robert Strout as a witness. His testimony was expected to take up to two days.
Stokes declined to comment Thursday on why he did not call Strout as a witness. Strout arrived at the Aroostook County Courthouse in Houlton about 12:30 p.m. Thursday and told a court officer that he was at the courthouse for the trial.
Strout pleaded guilty in October to hindering apprehension and arson in connection with Ormsby’s case. The older man admitted helping Ormsby set fire to Jeffrey Ryan’s pickup truck the day after the slayings to cover up evidence and taking Ormsby to New Hampshire to stay with Strout’s son, Robert Strout II. He is expected to be sentenced after Ormsby’s trial concludes.
Next week, the jury will hear evidence as to Ormsby’s state of mind at the time of the crime. Jurors then will be asked to determine whether Ormsby was criminally responsible for his actions.
If the jury finds he was insane when the crimes were committed, Ormsby would not be sent to prison but to the Riverview Psychiatric Center in Augusta for an undetermined amount of time. If jurors find him guilty and sane, Ormsby would face a sentence of between 25 years and life in prison on each of the murder charges. He would face up to 30 years in prison if convicted of arson.
Judges are allowed to impose life sentences in Maine under specific circumstances. One of them is being convicted of multiple murders.



Amazing.Ive never seen anything like this..
He seems a little full of himself at the end. Like any good could come from this. There aren’t many silver linings to a triple homicide.
hopefully
This man is cold. And very far from insane.
In my opinion, no SANE person could kill in cold blood with no remorse.
Insanity isn’t a prerequisite for evil.
I believe that some people are born without a conscience, but does that mean they are insane? The prisons are full of murderers. Are they all insane?
In my opinion, on some level they have to be. There has to be something very amiss in someone’s brain to do something like this. This doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t pay for their crime, or have a lighter sentence. To me, someone who is truly evil can’t be in their right mind, to plan and carry out such brutal acts without remorse, to me points to an unstable mind.
I don’t like to make excuses for behavior. Watching that video…he went from crying to laughing…..not crazy, just nervous. Glad this thing is coming to an end for all who have suffered at the hands of a brutal killer.
If this was about drug dealings, why wasn’t Robert Strout on Thayme Ormsby’s list? He was living with Strout at the time of these three murders. Strout got busted for dealing prescription drugs! I’m hoping the reasoning behind Stokes not using Strout as a witness is due to net letting Strout off easier by him turning states evidence. I think the state resting was a great idea on Stokes behalf before any more of the jurors were ousted! We certainly didn’t need a reason to have this all thrown out due to a technical problem. Great job by Stokes, the investigators and all who were involved. I’m hoping to see a guilty verdict on all three counts and a sentencing of the 105 years Ormsby has coming for this brutal killing(s). Haven’t heard what Srout is facing but, I hope he’s not far behind Ormsby!
Maine has NATURAL life sentences…thats where you NEVER got out. 3 of those is fitting.
Could also be considered a NATURAL DEATH sentence.
What ever happened to public execution and stoning? ha ha
Strout already made a deal and he gets that because he showed up at court. The defense switching to an insanity plea essentially concedes that Ormsby killed these three people. That eliminates the need for Strout and maybe a few other witnesses for this phase of the trial. It’s possible that Strout will be called to testify for the insanity phase. He was the first person Ormsby talked to after the murders.
Please understand whay I am saying. Mr. Ryan grew up in my home town and while I dont know much about him I do know that his brother and his sister were very heavily involved in drugs at one time. Mr. Strouts own grandson was arrested in this area for drug dealing. Then we have Ormsby who grew up in the area too. We have Strout who helps cover up the murder of his ex son in law. What this case was all about and why two men and an young boy had to die is still a mystery to me. I believe Ormsby deserves his punishment but I also think others shared a significant role in this crime and that they should be punished too.
Ormsby grew up in Ellsworth, not Orient or Amity.
And Jeff Ryan’s siblings were into trouble so he was a trouble maker, too?
You are too judgmental.
No, Im not saying that Jeff was a trouble maker. Im saying that Ormsby, who grew up in Ellsworth, has some sort of strange connection to Strout, whose grandson has been dealing drugs in Ellsworth. Ormsby ends up living with Strout up north. Ormbsy makes comments about the little boy being destined to go to Thomaston and be in prison. That makes me think that he knew of the trouble that Jeff Ryans sister and brother had been in with drug dealing. The connections between these people is all very strange and leads one to believe that there is a lot to this tragic story no one will ever know.
I think that the comment you make is honest. Many of us did things in our younger years that we would not do now. Some people change their ways,; some don’t….. The Strouts also lived in the Ellsworth area for years. All involved knew each other. When the day comes that Strout is exposed for involvement he had, in all of this, is the day that the three victims can rest in peace. There are so many more victims of this crime that suffer great loss. I hope they too will be able to find some peace.
Thank you to some great prosecutors, law enforcement and the jury. Well done.
I think that Robert Strout is into this up to his eyeballs and is getting off extremely easy.
After watching this video, my first thought was for the survivors, and what they must be going through as this cold blooded killer admits to his crimes, and shows no remorse–even for taking the life of an innocent child. My condolences and prayers go out to all of you.
My second thought was for the detectives who interviewed the suspect. It took extreme professionalism and control to listen to Ormsby’s confession as he rationalized killing a child by stating that little Jessie was on track for Thomaston! Goose bumps rose on my skin listening to Ormsby. I can only imagine the toll it takes on you.
To the law enforcement and others working on this case, thank you for your service. Your hard work and sacrifices may bring justice for the slaughter of three human beings who did not deserve to die.
Ormsby making that type of comment would suggest to me that he knew Ryan, his family members and his family history very, very well. Statements like that from Ormsby make me wonder if he was aggressively urged to committ this crime or if in fact he has some sort of mental issue that makes him believe he is giving justice to those who deserve it and is some sort of avenger for society. There are too many unexplained curiousities in this case that have not been answered.
That being said, Im glad that Ormsby is going to be going away. Whatever his motives for killing those three people, it was horrible, evil and wrong.
Let’s put him in a cage and forget about him now.
We should do like in France in the olden days. Make a public execution of him by way of Guillotine along with his entire crazy family.
Great idea Execute the whole family… Are you Chinese?
Is it illegal to set up a guillotine to fall but stop just as it hits the hair on the back of his neck. That would be fun to watch and he can hope it does not fail or that Alan Silsby cuts the rope….Whoops. Oh well we can dream anyway :)
Isn’t that Elvin Silsby? Who’s Alan? I believe that the name was spelled incorrectly in the BDN .
The video seems to get hung up at the 8:47 mark although it is supposed to be over 12 minutes long. I tried Firefox and IE browsers on 2 different computers.
I am having the same problem. I tried in Chrome and Firefox to no avail. I think the problems on BDN’s side.
Same thing here…I googled and viewed in entirety from a website…blip I think.
Thanks. I found that. Here’s the link in case anyone else needs it:
http://blip.tv/bangor-daily-news/thayne-ormsby-s-video-recorded-confession-to-maine-state-police-6084357
Well, I said yesterday I wasn’t going to bet good money on Ormsby getting off on an insanity defense. The jury did its job. May the 3 victims rest in peace now that justice has been done.
You are aware that the trial isn’t over yet, right ?
The phase determining insanity hasn’t even begun.
Get back to school and learn to read.
Phase 2 is gonna be pretty much based on the evidence that was admitted in the 1st part. Did he know what he was doing was wrong ? Did he have the mental competency to form the intent ? Did he appreciate the consequences of his action’s ? The videotape is gonna show all of this. And the ‘hit list’ he made, and was admitted as evidence, shows that he had the mental competence to form the intent which requires him to focus on what he was planning on, and to followthru by committing the act. That alone shows the he’s no where near being mentally incompetent. This just shows he’s one short step from going off on anyone that he thinks has ‘wronged’ him. Is a short fuse a qualifying factor for being called insane ? If so, well, then we had all better start lining up for our daily shot of Librium or Thorazine.
Maine got it right! I drive thru Amity every summer when I return for a visit. I find it had to believe that someone so young could kill 3 people in Amity. Very sad for all involved. I hope the families find peace.
I would like to see more clear motives emerge. All we have is some vague notion that he killed them because he thought they were drug dealers with some connection to his past. To me there just doesn’t seem to be any concise reason for it, and yet it’s clearly more than a random act of violence. It seems like more people were involved than just thayne and the people he killed.
I would say “thrill kill” played the largest role in this. He said he envisioned himself as an assassin. That was how he got his kicks – chasing his prey, catching his prey and finishing his prey. Fully calculated. He needed no other motive.
i agree with you- this was an act of power for him
I also agree with you.–Some people are natural born killers, and have no feelings what so ever!–It takes planning, and then the right time to see if you can pull it off!–It’s the hunt and the kill.–This man is far from insane!—He knew exactly what he was doing, and had the weapon with him to do so!—It just makes you sick to think of the terror these men and a young boy were feeling that day!–I hope to God he never sees the light of day again for this horrible thing he has done!
wasn’t his motive that his youth was messed up by a mother that did drugs and possibly got her drugs from the victim? That’s what I’ve gotten from reading all this. He blamed this guy for providing drugs to his mother. anyone else get this?
I think Ormsby got the guilty verdict he deserved, but I also think Strout was much more involved than anyone is saying. It’s a horrendous crime that Strout was not arrested for accessory to murder. I’m hoping that since the Prosecution didn’t call him to testify, any plea deal he got will be null and void, releasing the Prosecution to bring stronger charges against him. I can only pray this is the case.
To paraphrase Julius Ceasar, ‘Vedi, Vendi, Ventorchey’. ‘I came, I saw I burned his butt to the ground’. Stokes and the MSP folk’s did an outstanding job in the investigation and prosecution of Ormsby. Maine is very fortunate to have these folk’s up here protecting us. Their focus, their objectivity under extremely difficult condition’s, MSP’s use of the NH video recording of Ormsby’s confession while he was being read his Miranda Right’s all showed a huge amount of initiative and professional commitment to the profession that was so clearly demonstrated in it’s effectiveness says a great deal about the public safety folk’s here in Maine. And that Judge Hunter didn’t let this case get away from him after the ‘juror tampering’ incident shows that he knew exactly what he was doing and why. That Ormsby’s lawyer’s didn’t have a leg to stand on also showed that when properly done, a criminal case is pretty much a done deal. Congrat’s to all. I just hope Stokes’ next case, Ayla Reynolds, goes as smoothly as this one did.
Thank you justice system, thank you God.
To the family of the victims, there are no words to express how sorry I am for all that you have had to endure. My heart, thoughts and prayers are with you all, I know that is very little comfort but I do pray and hope that you all get some sense of peace and closure.
But but but…. didn’t “God” give us Ormsby? Maybe you should be cursing “God” for not issuing a recall on one of his defective devices.
I told you guys this yesterday he would be convicted, good deal….Too bad he couldnt be put to sleep and get rid of this sick man…
“An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind” Gandhi. While I agree Mr. Ormsby should and will be punished for his crimes, his death would suit no purpose. It won’t bring anybody back and it won’t change the past.
But perhaps it would help the family just a little bit.
The purpose it would serve is not making the taxpayers support him for the rest of his natural life. It serves no purpose to keep him alive. It cannot change the past, but it could change the future.
If there ever was a reason to reinstate the death penalty to the State of Maine, this would be it. God’s word is that an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is a suitable punishment. I guess that I wouldn’t want to be the one to argue against that.
“God’s words” also condone slavery, multiple wives and human sacrifice.
So what is your point, do you agree or disagree with my comment? You have left me guessing.
Of course I disagree… with slavery polygamy, human sacrifice, and the death penalty.
I will agree that the death penalty is appropriate when it is cheap, painless, and we can bring the person back to life if we find we made a mistake….
I couldn’t tell from your original reply, I thought you were maybe implying that the things you mentioned were appealing. Then again I should have known better. So let me see if I understand you correctly, you do not think that this cold and callous killer deserves the death penalty? Do you think the death of these three innocent people were painless? Guess what, they will not be brought back to life and Ormsby was the only one who made a mistake here.
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If the death penalty is there and someone breaks the law that carries it as a punishment than that is a consequence that the person was willing to accept for their actions.
The human capacity to make mistakes is cavernous. If you have the death penalty for one, then it is there for all. Cases which might not be so black and white will be tried, and sooner or later someone, probably some poor minority, will be executed in error.
There are the other factors such as it costs twice as much to “ecxecute” as it does to keep a subject in prison for life. States WITHOUT a death penalty have lower crime rates, and sinking to the level of a killer is not something I wish to do as a citizen.
Glad he was convicted. watching the video listening to his reasons, I hope he never walks a free man.
Wow, this video is quite disturbing to me. I can’t believe he would justify killing a child because as he “understood,” that kid was going to be a druggie too. Really?? Jeez. I truly hope he is put away for life.
We need to coddle and nurture him, Maybe Super Petey can save him????
Once the boys in the Supermax find out he killed a 10 year old, life will not be good for Mr. Ormsby.
This is wonderful news & kudos to all involved in prosecuting this case- kudos to the jurors too, & I am hoping they will find that it is evil, NOT insanity, that made him do this horrible thing. The video showed alot of arrogance & coldness & NO remorse. It also showed that he knew exactly what he was doing, therefore NOT insane. just on a power trip,,sickening- I am surprised the police did not throw up at what he was saying.
There were no defense witnesses? How is it that they expect to find a not guilty verdict as they ask in they closing? Perhaps they should present some witness testimony to support the questioning of the confession tape. The confession tape was powerful testimony that I guess could not be refuted. Very sad case. Our prayers continue.
There were no witnesses because they know they could not find a not guilty to the crime here. The experts will be next week when they try to influence the jury he is criminally insane at least when committing these horrific crimes. Mr. Ornsby admitted his guilt within five minutes in the interrogation room in NH. Det. Dale Keegan read him his rights then asked him what happened. Thayne they says May as well I am guilty so I may az well tell you what you want to know. He then stoically told his chronology of events the night of June 22, 2010. He killed Jeff at the shed, stabbed Jason in the LR, chased and stab 10 year Jesse in his BR and then found Jason outside and brutally murdered him. As far as insanity goes I believe it is most likely this will not fly because of his own sane actions since so I believe he was entirely right on the mark in July of 2010 when during this same interview he said he would most likely die in prison or worst get the death sentence. Well since Maine has no death penalty I believe he will get life because of the brutality and multiple murders. But I also think he probably thinks and it too may be true that some inmate at the state prison just might decide he deserves death and with nothing to lose you finish the story….. Thayne Ornsby I do not believe you are insane I believe you are a coward and that your intelligence has been wasted through your own actions. Your statement of hoping that good will come from where evil was destroyed should be your own epiphany because evil does not destroy evil it just causes more evil from the next guy that decides your life is worth nothing as you decided three lives were worth nothing. You caused your destiny and now you will live your destiny and no one feels sorry for you and I only hope your 15 minutes are over and your own nightmare begins and occurs nightly. Do you see yourself as that scared little boy cowering on the floor because if you do shame on you for not understanding his plkeas and showing compassion that you say you had received in your lifetime. That makes you a coward and a taker with no heart so no one will ever show you compassion again as you don’t deserve one more minute of our thought process.
Do people actually “buy photo”. Kinda sick.
Gee, that didn’t take long. Thanks Judge Hunter for keeping the trial moving despite the two juror incidents. I hope people have learned neither to go making statements to/as jurors in the middle of a trial, nor to express their opinions about the counsel. Next time, could everybody up here please just keep their pie-holes shut and let the justice system work like it is supposed to? Phase Two is going to require more time with complicated issues about a complicated convicted murderer. I pray that the jury will thoughtfully and patiently consider what they learn, reaching a just decision. That is all we as outsiders can ask.
This is a good case to bring back the chair.