BANGOR, Maine — Declaring the “freedom movement alive and well,” Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul kicked off a two-day statewide tour in Bangor on Friday with the hope of convincing enough delegates to support him at Maine’s caucuses, which begin next weekend.
Paul, the 76-year-old congressman from Texas, is the only current GOP candidate who has yet to win a state’s primary or caucus, but he plans to rack up delegates in many states including Maine.
“We came where the action is, in Maine,” he said to raucous applause from about 300 people packed inside the Union Street Brick Church in downtown Bangor. “We came to get delegates and that’s the name of the game. That’s how you win elections.
“We deal in ideas and very important ideas, but I’ve also discovered that the best way to promote ideas is to win elections, too.”
During a 30-minute speech, Paul touched on a number of his campaign themes including personal freedoms, limited government and ending U.S. involvement in foreign wars.
Paul talked about his intention to cut $1 trillion in federal spending his first year in office.
“Nobody is talking about real cuts. People have to decide what we’re going to put up with in Washington. I don’t want to be the policemen of the world,” he said.
He reiterated his plan to eliminate the U.S. Department of Education.
“There is no explicit authority for the federal government to be running public education, therefore we shouldn’t even have a department of education,” he said.
He stressed his preference to repeal the Patriot Act and his opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act.
“The Internet is the weapon of liberty as far as I’m concerned,” he said.
He also said he thinks airport security scanners are a government overreach in the wake of Sept. 11.
“These are illegal, unconstitutional searches of our bodies where it doesn’t make us any safer whatsoever,” he said. “That we need to change.”
After his remarks, Paul posed for pictures with a number of supporters but did not field questions.
Paul is the only candidate to visit Maine so far in 2012. The main GOP candidates — Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum — are focused on Florida, which holds its primary Tuesday.
Maine has 24 statewide delegates compared to Florida’s 50. But Florida’s primary is winner-take-all whereas Maine’s caucuses can allow for delegates to be split. That’s where Paul sees an edge.
Paul Madore, the Maine campaign director for Paul, said there is a lot of energy for his candidate in Maine and he thinks the congressman can win here.
Paul didn’t mention any of his GOP opponents and only briefly mentioned President Barack Obama but he said he is in the race for the long haul even if the media isn’t giving him much credit.
“They want us to go away but they don’t want to offend us, now how are they going to manage that?” he said. “Let’s say we’ll hang around for a while longer.”
In 2008, Paul and Romney were both on Maine’s caucus ballot along with John McCain, the eventual nominee. Romney took 51 percent of a straw poll vote, followed by McCain at 21 percent and Paul with 18 percent.
Like most states, Paul seems to have dedicated and fervent support in Maine but no natural constituency. Those who attended the Bangor event were a mix of young and old.
Kevin Kneeland, 54, of Charleston, said Paul is the only GOP candidate with any real ideas for change.
“He doesn’t represent the status quo,” Kneeland said. “He believes in personal freedoms. Freedom of choice. Freedom to live.”
Alba Briggs, 21, of Lubec, said Paul’s commitment to bringing down the national debt resonates with him and a lot of others in his age group.
“That debt is mine and I’m going to be the one paying higher taxes to address it,” he said.
Paul was scheduled to appear at Colby College in Waterville and at a hotel in Lewiston later Friday. The congressman also has three events planned for Saturday, at University of Southern Maine in Gorham, Linda Bean’s Maine Kitchen and Topside Tavern in Freeport and at the town hall in Alfred.
Paul’s anti-semetic newsletters of the 1980’s and 1990’s ought to disqualify him from any serious consideration by thinking people.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ron-paul-signed-off-on-racist-newsletters-sources-say/2012/01/20/gIQAvblFVQ_print.html
When a current supporter and former secretary for Ron Paul says he read and signed off on each and every racist newsletter it becomes hard to ignore it.
Those newsletters were a long time ago, but his lies about them are here and now.
Tyke, Paul’s policies would improve the lives of racial minorities to a greater extent than the failed policies of the democrats ever will. Why don’t you justcome clean and admit that you fear racial minorities, and therefore do not want someone like Paul to come into power because he would actually put minorities on level playing field with narrow-minded, fearful folks such as yourself?
You are a funny person.
Attack the messenger but do NOT discuss the issue of Ron Paul lying.
Got it.
Thanks for playing.
The secretary is getting paid for her interview. If she said RP didn’t proof the newsletters she wouldn’t get a dime. I think I’ll believe Ron Paul!
Busted.
His interview, the secretary is a man – and the secretary was not paid. You made that up.
Awww, little tyke gets upset when people call him out for the washed-up, old racist yankee he truly is!
lol. Gotta love it when the only response to pointing out a dumb “attack the messenger” type diversion is, you guessed it, DOUBLE DOWN AND attack the messenger some more!
Got NOTHING?
It shows.
Good gravy! You’re whining about newsletters, written by someone else, under his name while we’ve got Newt, Mitt, Ricky, and Obama as role models? Couldn’t you drum up something a little more juicy to compare?
I haven’t “compared” anyone and you have no idea who I support or why. In fact since Huntsman dropped out I am undecided. I am not certain if I will attend our Republican caucus or not now. I seriously dislike ALL of the choices.
So either tell me why I should not have a problem with Ron Paul lying to us or don’t but don’t start making sh*t up and trying to change the subject.
Watch your mouth.
Ron Paul has given 100’s of speeches, and 100’s of interviews, and written several books. You will not find one racists comment in any of them. Minorities are campaigning for this man, so give it a break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4VguUYkRCE&feature=colike
Before jumping to conclusions or letting the MSM shape your opinion, please do some critical thinking. Ron Paul had 4 newsletters that were published at the time and was heavily involved with only one of them, Ron Pauls Economic report. This is probably the newsletter that he signed off on daily as knew the most about it (just a little trivia for you, all the other candidates have economic advisors telling them what to say, Paul does not. And has been freakishly accurate on all his past economic predictions) Just like the MSM took comments he made about the economic newsletter out of context to say he supported the others, this is probably more of the same. I know this are assumptions, and one could say that they may be wrong. i admit that. In light of that fact, i would have to defer to his policies and positions over the last 30 years to say that he is not racist nor anti-semetic, and that would/should be the deciding factor in shaping opinions of him.
I love the Ron Paul apologists. Ignore the fact that when this subject came up in 1990’s he acknowledged he knew about them.. now he’s forgotten them? Must be old age.
Whether he wrote them or not is immaterial. They were published under his name. He owns them. He should own up to it now.
Were it any other candidate you would be vilifying them, too.
He has owned up to it! he acknowledged that he should have been more involved and not let them go out. What more do you want!
I like some of Ron Paul’s ideas, but I have a very hard time getting past the newsletters issue.
Assuming he didn’t know what was being printed under his own name, by his own business, leaves me thinking ‘how the heck is this man capable of running our country if he can’t even run a few newsletters’?
Of course that all hinges on me believing he had no idea of what was being printed, and I find that hard to believe.
Either way his goose is cooked. No way he will be elected to office in light of this news letter.
If a fake, trumed up story about Paul being a ractist is all you’ve got on him, then he’s the cleanest, most trustworthy politician out there relative to all the rest. If Paul was able to implement the policies he’d prefer, the quality of life for racial minorities would whitness the most dramatic improvement they have ever known in this country…perhaps that’s the REAL reason folks like yourself have a problem with Paul?
OK…I’ll bite.
I’m kinda’ interested how you came to the conclusion that I “have a problem” Ron Paul because I’m somehow against minorities.
are you white? just curious because it just the white people having problems with this i know plenty different ethnic Americans voting for Ron Paul 2012. because they know how to do there own research instead of listening to fox new, cnn etc.
Are you from the Ron Paul camp? Why are you even reading the BDN, if you are in Auburn, Washington?
And most of all, what in the heck does the color of my skin have to do with this????
You say that you have a hard time getting past a Newletter that he did not even write, and he has since disavowed. Now, to be fair, look at the political track records of the other three candidates. They have blatantly lied, stolen, cheated,…..and MANY times over. Compare THAT against a newlettter that Paul did not even author? That’s like comparing one person who once made one mistake, against other who have committed multiple felonies. Do the math1
“You say that you have a hard time getting past a Newletter that he did not even write, and he has since disavowed.”
He did not write it, that I believe, but by allowing his name to be used he is endorsing it. Had it been an issue or two that got by him I could understand, but the way I understand it is many, many issues were published.
Why would any sane person allow such filth to be published under their name if they do not share those beliefs?
I can only surmise that he is either not capable of running even a few newsletters, or he sold his beliefs to profit.
gotclog…. I totally understand your point of observation regarding the newsletters. So yes, the newletters WERE published, Ron Paul acknowledges that, AND he disavows the “filth” that was printed in those news letters. But keep in mind, Ron did NOT write that literature. That happened MANY years ago. He currently supports and defends the rights of Black people today…..and Black people are currently supporting and defending Ron Paul. Just Google-search “Black people defend Rob Paul” and see for yourself.
Now, if you look at the BIG picture of Ron Paul’s overall Track record, and then you llok at the overl track records of the OTHER Republican Presidential candidates, who has the best record? More-importantly, who has the best PLAN for our country? Do you want to vote for Romney, Santorum, or Gingrish at the risk of them sinking this country….and you lose your Freedoms and Liberties while they get rish from taxing you to death??? There is but ONE candidate who wants to protect your personal Freedoms, your personal Liberties, and retore our US Constutution. I would encrouge you to seriously look at the backgrounds of the other candidates and the many ways they hurt people, stole from people, and LIED to people. Compare those horrendous acts against a new letter that was not even written by Paul…..and even the Black people come to Ron’s defense. Listen, I have seen and read the news letters that you speak of. I am not one to easily dismiss facts. But there is NO other candidate who has a plan to retore our Country for We The People, as the plan that Ron Paul has.
If you want those old and disavowed news letters to affect your vote, you have that right. But seriously, look at the big picture. Make a wise decision. To my knowledge, that “disvowed newsletter” did not cost anyone their job, their home, their future, or their life. The other candidates pulled sh*t that literally cost people their home, their future, their everything, as the candidate pocketed the money without a moment of remorse.
Robby, first time I have ever seen you on this board so I would assume you are from Ron’s camp.
I am NOT against Ron Paul, but I feel in light of these news letters he is unelectable. The media will rip him apart. The Dems already use race to further their agenda and this will only ad fuel to their fire.
Do you remember everything you ever did, right or wrong. Have you, over time, learned more, matured at all? Why are you beating a dead horse when the issues at hand are so much more pressing. The opponents have so many more deceitful and illegal dealings than that of Ron Paul. What is wrong with your head son? Why? You know and see he is not racist, his actions are what speaks. He is looking out for your good and you want to bite the hand that is trying to protect your rights. I am sorry you are so deceived. You need to do more homework son.
It seams like when a person takes a stand against obama they are branded as a racist. What do you think the main stream media is going to do with these news letters should Paul get the nomination?
By the way, I know I’m not your son because my pops died and my mom is a brainwashed hardcore DEM. If you happen to own a 57 Chevy I’d be more then happy to play the part of your son, as long as you promise to write me into the will….LOL! Deal??
Because he wasn’t running the newsletters, a friend of him did. Your association is an incorrect one. Take how he has upheld his oath of office and respect for the constitution as signals as how he would run the country.
Well, Obama had very close ties with a racist priest, and now he is president, so there,
Kind of like obama sitting in a racist church for 20+ years and not hearing anything, huh?
Good point Joe!
How about obama starting his campaign in the living room of a known terrorist?
Maybe Paul’s goose is not cooked after all…oh…wait….Thats right it is cooked because he will be held to a different set of standards because he is a republican.
Jenny, why do you have to spew your racist virtriol about in such a manner?
OK, say it: Ron Paul is a racist. You can’t, because you know in your heart the man is civility personified.
He acknowledged writing business investment newsletters, not racial comments. Not the brightest bulb, are ya?
Actually Jenny,if you bothered your good self to take a wee bit of time and investigate,you will see he did indeed take responsibility for his lack of oversight in the matter.
Now what the heck to you want?..His pound of flesh…The other “GOP” people are like a candle to the Sun…..enough said!!!
You might posses an open mind, but I doubt it. You know that FOX News hates Dr. Paul. Here is a clip of Ben Swann of Fox new you might like to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGH77lZsglU
He owned up to being the Publisher. Does every publisher have to agree with every opinion that they publish? During the period of these newsletters, he was running his obstetrics practice. That is usually an 80 hour week. It is amazing that he was able to even get his economic news columns out while he running his medical practice.
Here is a more detailed analysis of the newsletter situation:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVZgGoHr8wU
Ron Paul the man didn’t write a single word of the newsletters in question, and that has been proven to a similar degree as evolution, though many people perfer not to hear the facts and instead wish to promote fallacy.
Newsletters written by another individual twenty or more years ago aren’t a disqualifying factor, but dismantling the constitution, the legislation of morality, failure to truly comprehend economics and a warmongering foreign policy absolutely are: For Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Barack Obama.
Washington Post, would they write about people who work in Washington by any chance.
These have already been debunked. The author was James Kerchick. Where have you been? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THkz9btU0zY
Publishers do not take responsibility for the views, opinions, etc.
expressed by writers or columnists. There is not a racist bone in Dr.
Paul’s body. Self-effacing people like Dr. Paul think too highly of
their fellow men/women to harbor any malice or ill-will. Ron Paul is all
about peace and goodwill to ALL men and women. Nobody has taught me
more about respect and tolerance towards all peoples and faiths than Ron
Paul.
Something somebody else wrote 20 years ago is the best the media can do to smear the good doctor – pretty sick, but predictable.
There is no audio or video over the man’s entire life in the public eye of him ever saying or doing anything remotely racist. That’s at least 30 years! But yea, let’s go with a few lines written by a ghost writer 20 years ago over actual real life behavior!!! That silly NAACP president even defended him – got him fooled too! You’re pretty sharp there to figure this out.
Four years ago, candidate Barack Obama came to Bangor before the Maine caucuses. The crowd that came to see him could not fit inside the Bangor auditorium. Ron Paul’s crowd was easily accommodated by a church maybe 1/50th the size. Tells you something.
Yes it does!!! It Tells me that the BDN is now covering the post game show, yet never covered the pregame show.. simpler terms, The Media didn’t tell people Ron Paul was coming.. Also if you still stand by you’re man Obama, and believe what he said the other night as meaningful, I want you on my team… Heck I thought only fish swallowed hook, line, and sinker…..
I just found out now that he was coming. Very sad! However, I wouldn’t have risked my life today to have seen anyone. Well maybe the savior himself, but that wouldn’t be a politician. I would have loved to seen Ron Paul, he is radical, but has some great ideas. Maine does tend to vote for the outsiders in past years remember Ross, we don’t usually go with the flo.
You think he is radical because that’s what you hear. If you listen to what he says, and not what others repeat, I believe you’d see that he is more reasonable than radical. Read these comments and see how many times you count someone saying he’s radical. He is not radical, he is practical!
yes I do think he’s radical because of what I hear! Coming directly out of Ron’s mouth.
P.S. he writes some pretty radical things as well.
Oh yeah, you mean those radical New York Times bestsellers like “Revolution”, “End the Fed”, and “Liberty Defined”. Yeah, those New York Times bestsellers are sooooooo radical and out of the mainstream…give me a break.
No, I don’t think I mentioned any New York Times Bestsellers??????
I know you didn’t, you should try reading them, then you might just have a clue about what your talking about.
Folks, please visit and pass along: kookyronpaul d o t c o m. This not-for-profit, Pro-Paul website with a twist has great videos, articles, and info beneficial to everyone, regardless of political affiliation. Peace, and Ron Paul in 2012!
Radical as the Constitution.
Folks, please visit and pass along: kookyronpaul d o t c o m. This not-for-profit, Pro-Paul website with a twist has great videos, articles, and info beneficial to everyone, regardless of political affiliation. Peace, and Ron Paul in 2012!
Strange that I found out that Paul was coming… through the media! Through the Bangor Daily News, in fact. Paul is the Republicans’ Dennis Kucinich: interesting but unelectable.
Hmmm been elected 12 times already. They said that about Ronald Reagan too.
There was a day when I had compassion for people of your ilk. However, now I can only feel sorry for you – for it must be extremely difficult (to be so perfect). Here is wishing you happiness in your delusional aspirations of aggrandizement.
It was crappy weather.
Yes, it tells me far more people enjoy being hoodwinked by a smooth talker than hearing the truth, no matter how hard it is to swallow.
Some of us know what’s going on. Some of us were at the Bangor auditorium. Some of us were duped by someone who we knew nothing about. We are wiser now.
That people like you are afraid of supporting the truth, afraid to stand up for yourselves and your own freedom. Do you sleep under a rug? Do you walk around all day with blinders on? What will you do when you don’t receive any SS and you have to stand in line for medical services and the public school system as we know it has gone bankrupt. Will this change the way you enjoy living your life? How ar you liking that hopey changey thing these days.
Tells us something’s really, really, wrong with America…, and Maine perhaps. I hope not. Maine, this Country needs your help. The previous three States have all voted for WAR with Iran.
Folks, please visit and pass along: kookyronpaul d o t c o m. This not-for-profit, Pro-Paul website with a twist has great videos, articles, and info beneficial to everyone, regardless of political affiliation. Peace, and Ron Paul in 2012!
Ron Paul is the only candidate that has a plan to reduce spending and balance the budget in 3 years. The other candidate offer more of the same and will mortgage the future of the next generation.
your right we need Ron to run as an independent : )
Ron Paul=the kooky uncle in your family no one wants to sit next to at Christmas dinner.
If you’re going to make a claim like that would you care to inform us why? I’m just curious as to your reasoning.
I see you speak as one who knows.
Yeah man! You should go to: kookyronpaul d o t c o m to see where the old dude got all his “kooky” ideas from. Send everyone you know!
that guy is completely wrong with the whole uncle thing. It’s something that’s been repeated again and again in the media and he’s just parroting what he’s heard. Now go away with the Web site thing. If someone hasn’t gone to it by now after your first post they won’t anyway. quit clogging up this board. Oh, and RP 2012
Wish I could’ve made it over there. He is absolutely radical. Got to love him. He has a plan, lol!
I hope he gets a show on MSNBC or FOX when he’s had enough of all of this. He’s great!
You’re right. He’s the only one with a very specific plan to get this country running again. To see his plan, visit: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/
The Media does not cover or promote all politicans the same, When Obama came to Maine to eat Lobster they had front page coverage for a full week in advance and full front page coverage a week after the visit… With Ron Paul they are now covering the aftermath only.. The Media is more Dangerous than the Politicans themselves…
Has always been that way. Pravda on the Penobscot loves our socialist leader
Your absolutely right, the media tries very hard to talk about everyone other then Ron Paul ……… makes you wonder what their afraid of.
Maybe it is because if he were elected and were able to implement his ideas, shrink government, cut $1 trillion the first year, etc. the AMERICAN Public would realize how wasteful and self-serving OUR Government has been.
Limbaugh and Beck aren’t afrais to mention his name. They’ve been doing everything to discredit him especially in the past week! Limbaugh has been calling him a terrorist and Beck said he’s pro abortion and will “give” Iran a nuke. I h0pe people wake up and see these two slimeballs for the neo-con warmongers they are!
Beck and Limbaugh need to put into straight jackets in a padded room. They both suffer from mental illness.
Frankforter…. Limbaugh and Beck, along with the traitor Hannity, get paid very big bucks to spew what their Producers tell them to spew. It’s kinda like OhBugger reading off the tele-prompter. These folks know VERY well that everything Ron Paul is saying is the truth, but if they cross their bosses and admit that on the air….bye-bye big bucks, you’re fired.
The Corporate Establishment owns the Media so they can tell you what to think, what to beleive, what to buy, and who to vote for. If an idiot like Hannity get’s told to bash Ron Paul on his show, what do you think he’s going to do?
Has there been any debate that he has been placed center stage? Everyone I have watched so far he was farthest to the left or right with the camera seldom going to him.
That’s because the establishment is terrified of Ron Paul!
To my fellow dedicated Americans concerned about the direction of this nation. I am confident that when you vote in this upcoming primary election you will vote to support the constitution that so many generations before us have given their lives to defend. I know you understand the problems before us which must be solved, and the painful truths in those solutions. Like those many patriots of our past, I am sure we will rise to this occasion and show the world that we; the American people, have not lost control of our government, that we do not blindly follow media direction, and that our military strength will no longer be used to invade other nations sovereign in their right to defense . We will demonstrate to the world by our actions that we are a peaceful people, and when the chips are down, Americans pull together not as Democrats or Republicans, but as American citizens defending the aspirations of our forefather’s, taking to task what those generations to come later will call, “Our greatest moment”.
I am positive that one day we will look back at these most troubling times that have befallen our nation and proudly know that we had the courage to support Ron Paul, the man who inspired all Americans to defend their constitution, and reminded us all of our God given greatness.
Personal liberty, sound monetary policy, limited government, responsible foreign policy. These are ideas every American Citizens should understand and espouse. These are the principles of the foundation of this country, and to disregard them is patently un-American. Whether you support the man himself is irrelevant; this is not about one man.
This is about returning to the principles of the constitution and electing a man who is not corrupt, takes $0 in special interest money and sends lobbyists packing. One who vows to change his Presidential salary from $400,000 to $39336, has denied his congressional retirement salary and has given it back to the people. One who wants to abide by the presidential oath to adhere to the principles of the constitution and protect American Citizens, most importantly from the government itself. One who does not want the Office to legislate his own specific morality over others or to continue building the American Empire by invading sovereign nations needlessly. One who prefers free trade and diplomacy to drone attacks. One who has maintained his stance on freedom, economics, corruption and overreaching federal government for more than four decades.
The fact that these qualities are to be found in one man is nothing short of amazing given the face of politics in this nation today.
Claiming some newsletters, which weren’t even written by Ron Paul, are a reason to ignore all the good he represents, all the manners in which he challenges the establishment is not only disingenuous but foolhardy.
I’ll see your ‘Ron Paul’ newsletters and raise you:
1) A Rick Santorum, the racial profiling, warmongering legislator of morality who promises ‘mountains of aid’ to Cuba while threatening to bomb an Iran which is thoroughly incapable of attacking our nation or even making sufficient gasoline for itself.
2) A Newt Gingrich who as Speaker of the House was disciplined in 1997 for ethics violations and as President would mandate our nation’s poor children to work in schools as janitors and such for a fraction of the pay actual janitors make. Who, as President would completely ignore Supreme Court ruling with which he disagrees, and one large step further, would completely remove entire state judical districts which have a record of ruling against the principles he espouses.
3) A Mitt Romney, the quintessential flip-flopper, who waits to guage public reaction before choosing which side of the issues he supports and has changed his stance on every major issue being discussed in American politics. I wouldn’t be surprised if his middle name was ‘Disingenuous’.
4) A Barack Obama, who has systematically dismantled the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, continues previous needless wars of greed while starting new ones, and apparently feels he requires the power to assassinate and detain indefinitely American Citizens without the need for criminal charges or even documentation, completely foregoing our rule of law. For those being detained by Federal agents there are no such things as ‘Miranda Rights’ thanks to Barack Obama signing the so-called ‘National Defense Authorization Act’. No lawyer, no phone call, no justice. Do i even need to mention the fact that he was this nation’s loudest proponent for bailing out failing corporations, Wall St. and the richest bankers in the world? Where did all that money come from? The pockets of taxpaying citizens.
You fools crying about ‘newsletters’ haven’t got a leg to stand on.
Publishers do not take responsibility for the views, opinions, etc. expressed by writers or columnists. There is not a racist bone in Dr. Paul’s body. Self-effacing people like Dr. Paul think too highly of their fellow men/women to harbor any malice or ill-will. Ron Paul is all about peace and goodwill to ALL men and women. Nobody has taught me more about respect and tolerance towards all peoples and faiths than Ron Paul.
He wasn’t just a publisher – his name *was* the masthead.
He traded on the basest of views held by Republicans in selling his newsletter.
StateMachine, your name is certainly an appropriate one.
Alternatively, you could tell us what definition of “state machine” you’re using in making the comparison.
The other candidates aren’t complaining about the news letter garbage now…do you know why? It’s because they would only embarrass themselves in exposing some of the unknown. Nuf said.
Ron Paul doesn’t PAY people to vote for him like Mittens does. Video on dailypaul.com
Feisty
I just returned from the Brick Church, Ron Paul is very impressive. He is a young body with a young mind especially for someone born in 1936 during the Great Depression. I shook his hand and had a photo with him, he has a good strong handshake and a good strength in his ideals of freedom and liberty. This man is honest in his belief that America has been sold out to the bankers and has become a country of welfare and warfare destroying our liberty and freedom… ‘if you give up freedom for security you will have neither’. The bankers do not own this man. A vote for any other candidate is a vote for the bankers, are bankers your friend? or your enslaver? How can people vote in favor of slavery? I don’t understand this mentality.
I discovered Ron Paul this year. Having done so, my eyes have been opened. I will not tout the party line. I will vote only for Ron Paul. If he loses the general election, I will write his name in. Enough of the same old, same old. I am convinced that a vote for Gingrich/Romney/Santorum is a vote for Obama – more of the same.
Saddlemomma… I too have found the truth of Ron Paul. Four years ago I wanted the U.S. to kill every Muslim on the planet, largely out of ignorance, watching reruns of 9/11, and listening to the hypnotic Talking Heads on TV. Since then, my eyes too, have been “opened.”
You know how you came to be converted to a “Paulite.” I know how I came to be converted to a “Paulite,” as well. It’s all about doing the research. I’ve taken my research and combined it all in one convenient place where folks can go to learn the truths of Ron Paul. Since all the Paul-haters like to call him a “kook,” I thought I’d give the site a name with a “twist” to entice the anti-Pauls into taking a peek.
Folks, please visit and pass along: kookyronpaul d o t c o m. This not-for-profit, Pro-Paul website with a twist has great videos, articles, and info beneficial to everyone, regardless of political affiliation. Peace, and Ron Paul in 2012!
Actually, Kevin, there is ‘zero chance’ of either Gingrich or Santorum being elected. They’re not even on the ballot in states giving nearly 500 delegates. Ron Paul is the only candidate who can actually beat Obama in the general election, as he has support from far more diverse demographic than any other candidate besides Barack Obama, and that is only because many lack the wit to see through Obama’s smooth-talking mannerism of undelivered yet extremely vague promises.
Ron Paul will drop out of the race very soon, just give it time.
Edit: If he was smart he would drop out.
Ron Paul is in the Race until the bitter end. Deal with it.
And by doing so he is only helping Obama. Even if he ran as an independent he would still not win the election. I’m not a huge fan of Obama but given the current group I will have to vote for him.
What’s wrong with helping Obama?
The Governor of Iowa told the media if Ron Paul wins Iowa, we’ll just ignore him. We’ll talk about number two and three. The GOP party head honcho in Iowa told C-Span if Ron Paul wins the nomination we won’t vote for him. The GOP Politburo’s lackeys at Fox denigrate and malign Ron Paul all day long. I can go on citing examples. It’s Ron Paul or Obama.
We, Ron Paul supporters, now hold the balance of power. Some people are already saying, “we better keep the Paul supporters on our side.” Gingrich tried hard last night to flatter Ron Paul. Forget Pillsbury Dough Boy, we can’t be swayed. We have found the truth and the truth has set us free. Fake conservatives or RINOs no longer have our loyalty. We’ve seen the light.
Right on Albert…Kevin is the type of person who just won’t understand the situation until Paul shows up to the convention with a 1,000 delgates in his pocket…that’s when the fun begins!
Support Ron Paul all you desire but he is not going to become the next president. It is just not going to happen. I’ll remind you of that come election time.
Well, I foresee you crying at the brokered convention where we all vote for Ron Paul and take the nomination.
They say everyone has to have a dream, good luck with yours.
Watch and learn. It’s either Ron Paul or OhBugger Part II. Your choice.
Going back to the same old, same old is like trying to put the toothpaste back it the tube. After you have seen the real deal, it just doesn’t work.
Spot on Albert. The Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum camps must be pulling their hair out trying to figure out how they can get Ron Paul supporters. The answer…, They can’t. Once a Ron Paul supporter ALWAYS a Ron Paul supporter and NO GOP Candidate other than Ron Paul can win without Ron Paul supporters. I predicted sometime back that the other GOP candidates would “float” the idea of RAND Paul as VP and sure enough…, that is being passed around. Fortunately, RAND Paul wouldn’t work for the likes of Romney, Gingrich, or Sanitarium, and IF Rand Paul wanted to be POTUS, why would he accept a VP slot in 2012 and have to wait 8 years to run for Prez, when he could run in four years after OhBugger finishes destroying the Country?
I wish the other candidates, would take up on Ron Paul’s challenge to a bike race, to bad it wouldn’t be a way of settling the Rep. race Because Newt wouldn’t make it around the block .Another thing we have candidates talking on stage, at these debates about military and wars with Iran .Has anybody noticed that the others dodged the Draft , the only one who served was Ron Paul During a very dangerous time, threat of nuclear war . and the Vietnam war. like what he said to newt i was married with two kids , but i went . newt kept saying i wasn’t eligible .. tells me who the real Patriot is .
Man you are so backwards. Helping Obama? Obama is the same pro-bank, pro-inflation, pro-job losses, pro-secret prisons and pro war candidate as Romney and Gingrich. Zero chance? Second place and 3rd place are not ‘zero chance’ totals. Were’ never going to go away so just get used to it. Ron Paul didn’t drop out last time so when he’s 4 times stronger, why would he drop out this time? Enjoy your illegal wars and trampled rights. Obama has brought us back into the year 1200 with his NDAA hog wash.
Really? The year 1200, you say?
Thanks for the laugh.
Kevin do some research on the NDAA and see how your freedoms have been erroded………you really look terribly ill informed here now!
You truly are clueless. A proud member of the sheeple….
Kevin, I was a big Obama supporter in 2004. I have never voted Republican in a presidential election. If Ron Paul would happen to pull off the nomination this year, he has my vote. If not him, then I will vote again for Obama as I could not tolerate Newt, Mitt or Rick
If Ron Paul pulls off the nomination this year I will go to church for a month.
Why don’t you start now Kevin………I think it may help you …….a lot! lol
I’m a born again atheist but thanks for the concern.
See you there.
We get to pick the church. The Unitarian church doesnt count.
Okie dokie.
It’ll be the Church of Paul!
And you wonder why I would never vote for him.
No fear there Kevin…
I would rather throw away my vote, than throw away my principles. Have you researched Ron Paul Kevin? Check him out and help us restore this country while we still can. Ron Paul 2012!!!
I know plenty about Ron Paul and go away and throw your vote away. The Obama supporters will love you for it.
If Paul is not the GOP candidate, a lot of Ron Paul voters will vote for OhBugger in protest. If you’re condemned to death, by what method of execution would you prefer to die: Firing squad, or being stabbed to death with a needle? If the country is to be destroyed from within, let OhBugger do it quickly, instead of a slow march to the abyss with a Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum. That way, after the Dollar and the Economy is destroyed, we can get on with the anarchy, Civil War, and the rebuilding that much sooner.
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace. – Thomas Payne
Wow. You want more of Barry? Illegal wars? Lying and hypocrisy? Running guns and drugs in Mexico? Just another corporate shill like bush. So if you want more mega bankster corporate control vote for Obama! or Romney or newt. Alll the same.
Ron Paul is the only candidate that can affect real change!
Kev, face it, you’ll die for Obama to the bitter end!
I think the comentary a couple of weeks ago is correct. He doesn’t really want to win the nomination. He just wants to accumulate enough delegates to control the Party platform and be the puppet master, the power behind the throne (the latter if, big if, another Republican wins the election).
In your dreams… he did not drop out in 2008 and today he is five times the force… all the way to November 2012 with or without the (R) label.
So he stays in, takes away votes and Obama gets re-elected. Awesome plan.
And what’s your plan, vote for Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum and get another round of Obama policies from a big-government, big spending “moderate” RINO deceptacon? Yeah, that’s an awesome plan chief.
Sorry, but if you want change, vote for Paul…otherwise, it’s on folks like YOU that will deliver another round of big government, big spending Obama policies.
I will sadly have to vote for Obama because there is no way I’m voting for Ron Paul, Romeny or Gingrich and Santorum is just plain nuts.
“I will sadly have to vote for Obama”
Yeah, I bet you will, and I bet you’ll be real “sad” about it…give me a break
Sorry, I don’t have a kit-kat bar handy.
You actually think there would be a difference between Obama and NewtMittSanty? Oh yea they would have an “R” after their name. LOL Policies would be basically the same. Not with Ron Paul.
So he stays in, takes away votes and Obama gets re-elected. Awesome plan.
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YOU are voting for Obama anyway—no matter WHO runs against him—so I don’t think your opinion is worth much nor will it sway anyone who believes in and strives for true liberty.
I would rather not vote for Obama but given the current line up I don’t have much of a choice, other than to not vote at all.
I would rather not vote for Obama but given the current line up I don’t have much of a choice, other than to not vote at all.
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It all depends on WHY you are voting, WHAT you hope to accomplish with your vote and what you want a candidate and eventual president to DO. Would you care to answer the above?
Not sure what you are asking in why am I voting? Everyone that has the right to vote should do so.
I don’t want to keep Obama in office but when it comes to someone such as me that is involved in the secular community he is the best choice. At
least Obama does pay the secular community lip service and sadly I cannot say that about the GOP or Ron Paul.
As for the type of President I would desire it will not happen in my life time as poll after poll has shown that the majority would never vote for an atheist that was running for president.
kookyronpaul d o t c o m. At least vote….informed….
Not sure what you are asking in why am I voting? Everyone that has the right to vote should do so.
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Yes, I am asking you WHY you vote. Just because any resident age 18 and over who is not confined to a prison has the right to vote does not mean they SHOULD vote. Can you imagine if alot of people just went into the voting booth and put an “X” next to a name they can’t even read? So, WHY do you vote—because you have the RIGHT to do so? Are you voting for the person who promises the most handouts? Are you voting for the cutest boy in the 7th grade to be class president? Why are you voting?
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I don’t want to keep Obama in office but when it comes to someone such as me that is involved in the secular community he is the best choice. Atleast Obama does pay the secular community lip service and sadly I cannot say that about the GOP or Ron Paul.
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I’m sorry, I don’t think I understand what you are saying…it seems like you want a president to “kiss your a$s” just because you are an atheist. I don’t care a freakin’ whit what your spiritual belief system is, and neither does Ron Paul. Do you want him to publicly acknowledge your existence? Are you confusing him with Santorum, perhaps? Sorry—your comment about Obama is strange, and I’m still trying to figure out how you are tuning it around as some kind of attack on Representative Paul. please explain.
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As for the type of President I would desire it will not happen in my life time as poll after poll has shown that the majority would never vote for an atheist that was running for president.
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For the record, I’d vote for a candidate if he or she was an atheist, as long as he/she will do whatever he/she can to return the United States to a Constitutional Republic. However, I didn’t ask you what TYPE of president you want, I asked what you want a president to DO. please respond.
Ever hear of separation of church and state? That’s in the constitution. Oh, I forgot, you like Obama so you have no idea about that little document we call the constitution.
Ya may wanna read it sometime before your boy Barry destroys the whole darn thing!
I’m well aware of separation of church and state as most atheist are and I never said I liked Obama. I said he is the lesser of the two evils.
Kevin there’s a little doc. that states separation of church and state . there’s extremes at both ends . i want to be sure that this country doesn’t have someone who is insane , with his finger on the button . some religious people out there would like nothing better than to drop a few because of there beliefs . so don’t use that excuse .
You just lost your credibility. You were complaining that Paul would help Obama if he stayed in, then you said you’re voting for Obama. You’re helping Obama too.
And he will help Obama and I see Obama as the lesser of the two evils.
Obama is an evil scumbag. None worse.
Spoken like the true brainwashed sheep you are.
Back to that corporate tee vee—- let me guess, American Idol fan?
I bet you call yourself a Christian, don’t ya?
Hahaha!!! Good one!!
Couldn’t be further from the truth.
So you are an atheist then?
eff the plan. Ron Paul voters vote on principle and Romney, Gingrich, or SanITARIUM, are NO different than OhBugger.
It’s Ron Paul or Obama. Make your mind up. Nobody else stands a chance against Obama.
I don’t know Kevin, There are an awful lot of Obama Independents like me who are now firmly in Ron Pauls camp. I will write in Ron Paul on the ballot if he is not there come election time. At some point we have to demand something better than the drivel that comes out of Washington from both parties.
Kevin just needs a history lesson, look into the Nixon Kennedy election, one of the closet in our history . Kennedy won by popular vote very close at that. another lesson. There was a candidate one time who printed in the papers that he had won the Presidency, big head lines . Do you know who that was, and who really became President .We still have popular vote in this country , which i think should be the only way we elect get rid of the electoral vote , plus all paper ballots without any cheating or ballot box stuffing so Kevin can you answer who that was .
And everything you just typed still has nothing to do with the fact that Ron Paul will not become the next POTUS.
You must be an Obama fan, both of you should move to Iran
I’m not a fan of Obama and didn’t vote for him in the last election but this year I will vote for him and I don’t think Iran would take me, they don’t care for atheist.
A heckler just stirring the pot.
If stating the truth is stirring the pot then I’m going to stir away.
That’s a pipe dream of yours. Actually, that would be a “crack” pipe dream of yours. Ron Paul has stated that he will stay in the race until it is mathematically impossible to get the GOP Nom. Then…, guess what the good doctor is going to do? Yep. 3rd Party Baby! But if not, doesn’t matter. Ron Paul supporters will write in Dr. Paul on their ballots and GOP loses in 2012. Believe it.
And when you folks write in his name and he does not win you basicly have given your vote to Obama but for some reason you don’t understand that.
For some reason, you don’t seem to understand, Ron Paul supporters don’t settle for the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil. Ron Paul or Nobody.
WTF you talking about ,Ron Paul is spreading a message, that for some reason your to stupid to understand . Read the Patriot act fool maybe your the one who will drop out of whatever cloud your on . And jump on Ron Pauls bandwagon .
How does a comment stating he will never win get flagged for review?
WOW!!! Seems those that don’t like the truth just love that flag option.
Help save your Dollars and your Country. Visit kookyronpaul d o t c o m and at least vote…informed.
Keep thinking I am not informed. I’m well informed of what is going on and that is why Obama is going to get my vote.
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If we the people are letting the media control our reactions, we become likened to cattle getting herded in to get whacked. Its time for us to reason, and unite as citizens to demand from our elected officials that changes need to be made. If anyone out there, managed your finances the way our govt manages , everyone would be non-creditworthy. So,what does that say-our elected officials are not worthy of accountability, they all lie and say just what we want to hear until they get in office. then WHACK, tag we are done for. Our Gov-Le Page said “People before Politics”, we wanted to hear that, now what does he practice??I do not see the great state of Maine people being first. I do see “Politics before-versus- Everyday folks, Politics win. they justify what they do, Our system is broken, Ron Paul could be the guy to start fixing it,it will take a lot of people to support the idea of liberty and freedoms. It will take people to quit letting the media control them.
Obama/Paul 2012
LOL…more like Obama/Romney 2012, or Obama/Gingrich 2012, or Obama/Santorum 2012. Either of those makes more sense than the pairing you chose!
Jesus was tempted in the wilderness but did not submit to the devil
Ron Paul is Running for Peace.
Ron Paul’s approach is the ONLY way to achieve peace!
I attended! It was great! :)
We were here too. Got a picture with him, shook his hand and even chatted for a few seconds.
What you can’t see is the look on my face and it’s a face that’s very very jealous. :(
Ron Paul 2012
You say that you have a hard time getting past a Newletter that he did not even write, and he has since disavowed. Now, to be fair, look at the political track records of the other three candidates. They have blatantly lied, stolen, cheated,…..and MANY times over. Compare THAT against a newlettter that Paul did not even author? That’s like comparing one person who once made one mistake, against other who have committed multiple felonies. Do the math!
Voters who want wars, torture, assassinations, “humanitarian” bombings in oil rich countries, indefinite detentions, drone attacks that kill the innocent, erosion of civil liberties, domestic war on the people (drug war), out-of-control debt and spending, graft and greed, crony capitalism, pandering to special interests, bailouts, more of the same, must NOT vote for Ron Paul.
Voters who want peace, a humane foreign policy, restoration of civil liberties, an end to the war on drugs, sound money, balanced budgets, honesty, integrity and transparency in government, and a President wholly committed to Constitutional government can vote for Ron Paul.
Ain’t that difficult a choice.
Now that Paul is almost out from under the controlled early states…WE ARE GOING TO ROCK!!!
That’s what they said about Reagan.
So when Ron Paul does not win what will your responce be?
Point the finger at you and say what’s YOUR problem with voting for a true conservative?
It’s fake RINO deceptacons like yourself that are going to hand this election over to the dems or another big spending, “moderate” republican who won’t change a damn thing.
I’m an independent but thanks for assuming.
Freedom is not something that will die with Ron Paul. It is a movement to take our country, and our lives back……….Join us Kevin ……..Elections are not only about “winning!~”
Thanks, but I’ll pass and stick to my own views.
The response is that the liberty movement is growing and will continue – Ron Paul is just the representative of the movement now. It does not go away without him!
So when Ron Paul wins what will your responSe be?
But I’m telling you right now that he will not win. It is not going to happen.
So what do you believe in Kevin? Socialism, the slippery slope to tyranny? You are really a Ron Paul supporter aren’t you, afraid to vote for what you really believe. You can’t give up on everything in life that presents itself as a challenge. Show your true colors and support what is right, popular or not. Kevin do the right thing.
The whole socialism argument makes me laugh, it really does. Telling me I really am a Ron Paul supporter is the same as a Christian telling me I’m mad at a god that I don’t believe in.
Thats not what he asked you kevin ..
I hear Ecuador is a nice low-cost retirement choice for a lot of ex-patriot Americans. I reach retirement eligibility on Election Day 2012. If Ron Paul is not the next POTUS, Ecuador here I come. You can stay here and spend your money into a ruined economy, propping up a Gov’t who insists upon waging immoral and illegal, undeclared wars and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people who’ve harmed no one; all to keep the Banking- Corporate-Military Industrial-Complex-BigGov’t “Public Debt and War for Profit” Cartel in business.
I’m thinking Costa Rica but unfortunately I have a few more years to go.
Everyone, the newsletter is a distraction. The fact of the matter is anyone who thinks that going back on the gold standard is a good idea has never studied economic history. The vast amount of deflation that it would cause overnight would make the value of every debt you or the country own double overnight. It would be remarkably damaging. The Great Depression happened while we were on the gold standard.
Everything that has happened to our economy since 1971 (when we went off the gold standard) happened while we were off the gold standard. I have studied the issue of going back to a commodity backed currency and find this idea quite sound. Google “Good as gold” and do some research. When we un-tethered the dollar from gold in 1971 (Nixon) the price of gold has sky rocketed up while the dollar has devalued in almost direct correlation.
We are facing a dollar collapse as we continue to flood the market with over-printed currency. Proper preparations would have to be made to re-establish our currency to a tangible commodity such as gold, and Dr Paul understands that process quite well. He is not making a cavalier suggestion without investigation and concise understanding.
So yes, we were on the gold standard during the great depression but we also enjoyed world financial domination under the standard up until Nixon took us off of it. You should research what caused the Great Depression to realize that it was not the gold standard. It was over selling paper (stocks, bonds etc). The same thing we are doing with the US dollar right now.
The only thing that keeps any value in our dollar right now, is the fact that it’s the world trade currency. If we don’t stabilize it and find our way to sound money, and keep printing currency as if it will have no negative effect, we will see the world move to a currency of stronger value (possibly the Chinese yaun).
Also, look around at the huge increase of brokers selling gold and precious metals. That’s people switching their cash to gold right now. Smart money knows gold will hold value if/when the dollar crashes. Even Newt is hinting of a gold standard now (as all of them start parroting Paul’s ideas). We allow The Fed to manipulate our currency and interest rates at our own peril (in secrecy, with no transparency).
As a caveat, I have seen 2 precious metal commercials as I type this, on TV.
Being on the gold standard was a huge part of the Great Depression. While the overselling of paper was the reason behind the ’29 crash, the fact that Hoover did not take us off gold locked up the credit markets and denied the economy the liquidity needed to unlock them. This caused the huge run of bank failures in ’31. Then France started hoarding gold, lessening our ability to control our own system. When you tie your currency to gold without controlling the entire worlds gold reserves, you are putting your fate in the hands of other countries, like France. I thought you guys did not like world government…..And the strongest economic expantion in human history took place with the Fed in control of our money supply. I dont want to go back to the 19th century, if that’s ok.
In 1913 a 20 dollar gold piece or a 20 dollar note purchased a nice suit, 2 pairs of pants, socks, and shoes. Today, a 20 dollar gold piece still does, how about that $20 note. Fiat currency always returns to its intrinsic value – ZERO. You are talking about a financial bubble, when it bursts, you get a prolonged depression like we have now. The gold standard had NOTHING to do with the depression, quite the opposite actually.
Actually bradygirl, there was a popular investment practice of buying stocks on margin. That’s like buying with a down payment and expecting the profits to cover the rest. When the market started falling (many banks invested on margins) margins were called in and banks fell. people holding stocks with only 10% or so, in on a margin, lost everything when the margins were called in. They had no ability to make up the difference and lost everything. Stockbrokers invested their profits and commissions into the same products, on margin, and they too lost everything.
Think of this margin stock purchase practice as holding paper on a promise, very much like “fiat money”. Also very much like how are own currency now is viewed.
Mikein,, Actually, a 20 dollar gold piece appeared in the 1800’s as an oz worth 20 dollars. Those gold pieces never lost value as the stock market crashed and put so many investors and banks into ruin. The recovery was based on changes in how stocks were marketed, and stop gaps put into place to prevent runs. We left that era with gold still as our standard, and enjoyed prosperous times that carried on through WW2 (a tough financial time for citizens, lucrative for war profiteers) on up until 1971.
In 1971 an ounce of gold was worth 30-35 dollars, not that far off from the 20 dollars it was worth in the 1800’s. However, now gold is up to appx 1800 dollars an oz. That’s the inflation (devaluation of USD) we have suffered since that happened.
Anyone who is a fan of fiat money will change their mind if/when the currency bubble collapses. They will be using a tote sack of currency to buy a loaf of bread. Much like the “Continentals” of post revolutionary war, or Confederate bank notes, post civil war. Both of those currencies were prime examples of fiat money (based on a promise,,, as non-collaterized currency). If we are to continue on as the world’s trade currency, we need to secure it with collateral or commodity.
Precious metals have been historically proven to be a near perfect standard for over 2000 years. Oil is a very poor commodity (think petro-dollars) as it’s a consumable commodity meaning it can disappear through usage. Gold and silver can be shaped, reshaped, diluted, purified, but can always be brought back pure. We still are able to look at gold from ancient Egypt.
Not considering the collector value of a gold doubloon (a little over 6 grams) it will still fetch market price. Around 4 1/2 of them is an oz and worth 1800 dollars at current market. If you have Continentals, not counting collector value, they are worth nothing.
John Stossel is an economist on Fox business, who strongly supports Ron Paul’s fiscal stance, along with most of the economy analysts on Fox news, as well as Judge Andrew Napolitano. Ron Paul has served on the Joint Economic Committee, and the Committee on Financial Services, as well as being a Ranking Member of While we’re at it Ron Paul has served on the Domestic and International Monetary Policy, Trade, and Technology Subcommittee. He is the only true supporter of Capitalism on that stage of Candidates. While the others practice their speeches, he reads economics textbooks. He was recently endorsed by 5, count them, 5 top fiscal conservative senators from South Carolina. He is endorsed by people like Dr. Iris Mack a Harvard graduate, and economic analyst. While we’re name dropping, David Walker, the former Comptroller General (USA’s accountant) endorses Ron Paul’s economic policies, Even Sarah Palin has agreed with Ron Paul’s economic policies. There are countless more that I am forgetting, and frankly don’t have the time to list, I will mention that Newt Gingrich has even conceited that there is something to Ron Paul’s policies. I have heard one too many economy student try to make this argument, and am tired of it. If you want to listen to you liberal professor, and continue to quadruple the national debt, then fine, but don’t pollute the minds of the innocent with your amateur observations. The fact is, that almost no one is arguing Ron Paul’s economic policies, mainly just his foreign policies. If you want to get into that, we can do that too. I’ll end with this though. Even Alan Greenspan, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, said that Austrian economics has had a profound effect on how economists view our economic policies in this country. For anyone who is not aware. Ron Paul subscribes to the Austrian School of Economics. Cheers
France did it in the 1950’s by creating a “New” Franc to replace the “Old” Francs. Ron Paul wants to do away with Legal Tender laws that protect the FED and permit competing currencys by de-taxing gold and silver. The FED’s funny money would continue to inflate while gold and silver would increase in value against it. Which do you think people will want?
We were not on a gold standard in 1929. Domestically, the gold standard ended when the Federal Reserve opened in 1914. Gold coins continued to be used as currency until FDR illegally outlawed the private ownership of gold in 1933. Nixon ended the last ties to a gold standard when he ended the Bretton Woods agreement in 1971, which was when the dollar was no longer redeemable in gold in international trade. Gold is honest money that the politicians, and bankers cannot manipulate, and inflate like paper money. That is why they hate gold. Inflation of the currency is theft of the people. By printing excess money to pay for their profligate spending on welfare, and warfare, the dollar loses value, and prices rise as the newly printed money circulates through out the economy. Deflation would be a bad thing only for the politicians and central bankers of the Fed. On the other hand deflation would be good for the people, because their money would gain value over time instead of losing it. Inflation is going to wipe us out someday, perhaps soon, if it is not stopped with sound money in the form of gold coins.
Kudos to Rep. Dr. Ron Paul for his sticktoitiveness. His quick-witted answers to some questions last night were refreshing–“there is a law against age discrimination” and ” I would ask Raoul Castro why he called.” I do not believe that he will bow out of the race. I do wonder why the gathering was at the Union Street Brick church–did not seem fitting for a presidential candidate.
Ron Paul cant win. That’s a common misconception. Gingrich, Romney and Obama are all working for the same people. They all have the same game plan, with the same ending. They will all steer this country toward the New World Order agenda, and they’ll do it as fast as they can! The Republican vs. Democrat thing is just a smoke screen. The real issue is Liberty-loving Americans vs. Mega-wealthy, evil “leaders” who want to rule the world and destroy the Constitution in the process!
It appears that Dr. Paul, even here in Maine, is being treated like a 2nd class citizen and candidate. And by that I am referring to this article, written by Eric Russell. When he writes: “Paul is the only candidate to visit Maine so far in 2012. The main GOP candidates — Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum — are focused…” It really is pathetic when the most decent and honorable man running isn’t given an equal opportunity by the members of the press.
And why exactly is that? Is it because the talking heads of the GOP like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and the rest of Faux News says so. I tend to think that it is up to the voters of this country! As far as I am concerned, Ron Paul is the only candidate that is any different than all those other cookie-cutter politicians. Choosing between President Obama and any of the others, (Mitt, Newt, Santorum) is no more relevant than choosing different sides of the same coin. And I really think that most conscientious know that to be true. Voting for any of those other characters is a vote for the status quo. Nothing at all will change. We will continue going in the same direction that we have been heading for the last two or more decades. They all claim to be different, but it is all a big lie and most voters know that. We can continue on the current path which is the fall and collapse of the american empire or we can return to being a Constitutional Republic with a sound monetary policy and real true freedom for all. It is up to us! Just after this country was formed, someone asked Benjamin Franklin what they (the Founders) had created and his reply was “A Republic, if you can keep it.” We can turn this ship around, but we need a sharp change of course to do so.
Anybody But Obama 2012
I bet every one of those victims, and their family’s were relieved to know that the mastermind of 9/11 was fed to the fish, and done so with regard to his religion, so as not to cause an islamic outrage and not to cause an international event.
Apparently, he gets along well with the military, especially Seal Team 6! He’s made some very difficult decisions. I’m voting for the President.
Yeah, they are focused alright. Focused on squandering their supporters money in a state that carries only 50 delegates, to only one of the candidate. They can focus on that all they want. Ron Paul won’t blow his war chest on one state. He will be there in the shadows all the way to the Florida convention, and I can only hope to be there as a delegate to support him, with all of the other delegates there for Ron Paul.
This is the first time in my life (I’m well over 50) that a completely virtuous man has gotten any where near this far in a presidential race. It is astonishing, overwheliming and exciting. Please do not vote for any of those horrible liars and backroom-dealers. This country is in far more danger than most people know.
Love the name Patricia. Was my mom’s name and all of her friends called her “Patsy.” You are entirely correct; this country is in grave danger and desperately needs Ron Paul to be her next President.
Folks, please visit and pass along: kookyronpaul d o t c o m. This not-for-profit, Pro-Paul website with a twist has great videos, articles, and info beneficial to everyone, regardless of political affiliation. Peace, and Ron Paul in 2012!
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn’t throw stones through your window. Grab a chair, come on in, the Doctor will free you now.
It is time for Dr Paul to check himself into the “HOME”
Do you have father or mom Kitterykid? I am 74 and I do not appreciate your comment It reflect on you.
Sooner or later the kid will need an enema. It will be a good day indeed. He just might have a Ron Paul supporter giving him a triple H. Oh Karma… :)
Ron Paul gets his donations in small denominations from hard-working Americans all across the
country, actually offers a solid plan to reduce spending and says what he plans
to cut. Ron Paul is serious about cutting the tax burden placed on us, wants
sound money, etc. If Americans don’t rally behind him we are doomed.
Barbara, I made a reply earlier, concerning Dr Paul’s unprecedented understanding of world finance and economics. His foreign policy is non-interventionist, the same as 98% of the rest of the world’s nations (so not unorthodox).
Your observation of how he gets his funding enticed me to post again. I think it’s of paramount importance to the voting public. While Mitt gets his funding from almost precisely the same sources as Obama, Newt gets his from a fabulously wealthy billionaire who desires to “own” a president,
Paul calls his funding up from us, We The People, small business and military. This should serve as strong evidence of “who would serve whom” as a president. Whenever Paul needs more funds, he simply asks the public, and they comply. Wow…
IF we can ignore the media slant, IF we can get him elected, he would not be obligated to anyone but the American People.
The ramifications of that is almost beyond comprehension.
People do seem to confuse non-intervention with isolationism. Big difference. People really need to do more research before voting. Voting is a right but it’s a hard won privilege as well and is not to be taken lightly. Keep up the good work.
Ron Paul 2012
Ron Paul has my support and vote. I question whether Americans even understand what our country should stand for anymore. We were created to provide the maximum amount of liberty for individuals as possible. Now we create nothing but debt, servitude to government, and loss of liberty. Romney and Obama are almost exactly the same. A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. I will only support freedom, peace, and the Constitution in this election. Ron Paul is the only candidate who offers real hope and real change in Washington.
Hard to keep track of or understand the issues when there are awards shows and American Idol episodes to watch.
Non intervention, end the fed,sound money…the youth of the nation are passionate because they understand the issues and don’t want to be the next ones indebted further by the neocons endless wars that only profit the military complex and big banks. Do your kids a favor and pay attention to what they are telling you.
The older and elderly Americans need to stand up for their kids and grand kids. Maine needs to be a first #1 win for Ron by reasonable folks that want a future for the next generation.
This will probably be the first and last true patriot I’ll see in my lifetime … I’m 63 and raised 3 of my own. Just know the issues and you’ll be passionate also…it’s a great feeling!
Rons in this until the end. i will write his name into the presidential ballet if i have too. but he has a greater chance then santorum and gingrich. Romney is not talking about real cuts so i have a feeling the people are going to begin to swing Ron’s way once they see that we are just going to have more of the same with anyone but ron paul.
He’s got my vote! Romney & Newt are un-electable. True teapartiers who said they would never again vote against their principles simply won’t support those big-government, progressive, establishment politicians.
Dr. Paul is the only candidate who proposes a plan that is different than what we’ve had every election. If the GOP doesn’t nominate him, Obama wins… simple as that.
I hope each of them win a primary or a caucus sporadically. Obama at least buried the Iraq war and the where is Osama thing. Iraq is up to them, (it should have been all along), and Osama is shark $#it!
Please do your homework. Actually, the reason the troops left Iraq was due to the expiration of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) which gave them immunity against Iraqi judicial action. Without SOFA the troops and other ‘defense contractors’ would have been subject to Iraqi laws and judicial system each time they misbehaved. Obama tried to negotiate with the Iraqi government into extending the SOFA beyond 2011 so that the US troops could stay in Iraq and remain immune. However, the Iraqi people and the majority of Americans protested and Obama didn’t want a scandal before re-election. All of this information is available online…if your only source of news is MSM then your confusion is understandable.
Obama did not bring the troops home by choice. Actually, many of those troops are not in the US now; they are still in the middle east waiting for a possible Syrian or Iranian intervention.
Operative word there, is the SOFA agreement. It includes, as you have said the troops and other “defense contractors”. Now, I for one would find that interesting, combining in the same sentence troops and defense contractors…?. Ok onto the next.
Obama, without any doubt maintained his campaign promise, the US will be out of this awful war, a war that did not need to happen because there was no weapons of mass destruction.
There isn’t such a thing as US troops staying in Iraq and remaining immune……….they don’t want us there, they don’t need us there, they will go through a civil war and it’s probably due to us (which isn’t a bad thing).
The fact of the matter, and all that we created in Iraq is we had thousands of kids killed, searching for something that never was; in the wake of 9/11 and it took us ten years to do it.
It took President Obama less then 2 years to get the killer. And a little more than that to get us out of there. Now, since Iraq is so weak, we need to worry about Iran, who would you want to run that little gamut? Ron Paul?…..ah..no.
If you remember correctly, when Saddam was in charge Iraq kicked the crap out of Iran, don’t you think that there are those that don’t remember. Is Ron Paul gonna let Iran nuke Iraq?……….and let our submarines protect us?
The only reason why we are over there, is because of friggin oil. If we can figure out how to put a man on the moon, then we can figure out how to power our nation’s infrastructure without fossil fuels. If we do that, ……let them kill themselves in the name of allah, jihad, or oil…..whatever.
They have been fighting each other for thousands of years.
So should I have been more specific and stated mercenaries—Blackwater and the plethora of other companies— instead of ‘defense contractors’? I’m not sure what your argument is here, but bottom line is that Obama had nothing to do with the troops leaving, he tried to extend the SOFA status. Also, there are still around 8,000 troops and a ton of equipment in the semi-autonomous Northern Iraq better known as ‘Iraqi Kurdistan’. Interestingly enough, where did the Iraqi VP run to when he was accused of commissioning acts of terror against the Iraqi people for the purpose of increasing sectarian violence? That’s right Northern Iraq.
Having been a soldier in Iraq, I can assure you that whatever sectarian violence that is occurring there now is a direct result of US/allies instigation. And yes we had thousands of US soldiers killed and that’s a terrible waste as a result of warmongering political leaders and the mainstream media feeding the citizens propaganda. As a result, we’ve also completely destroyed a country, Iraq—schools, hospitals, the economy, basically the entire infrastructure, and let’s not forget the hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Imagine our troops suffering from PTSD after one or two tours in Iraq due to the violence of war and then imagine how the majority of Iraqi’s have been living with war in their streets for almost a decade. This was all due to propaganda; Iraq was not a threat to the US or anyone else. As a soldier, I volunteered to defend the country, not fight, kill or possibly die in order for a select few to make money. Why would any rational person, soldier or civilian, want to rush headlong into another war based off propaganda?
Do you actually know anything about the Middle-East, Iran in particular? Iran does not have a nuclear weapon. Iran does not have the military might to attack the US and it has not shown any aggression to US or NATO troops right in it’s back yard. In fact, Iran has not shown aggression to any country in over a hundred years! Do some research and see how many acts of war or ‘regime changes’ the US has instigated in the past 60 yrs. This is ridiculous. One has to think rationally about who would benefit—whether monetarily or geopolitically—from a war with Iran? It certainly isn’t going to be you, me, or the average American citizen, but a whole lot of people will suffer/die from it.
BTW, Osama was never in Iraq, had nothing to do with Iraq, so I’m not
sure why you are bringing that up. However, you might want to do some
research on Osama Bin Laden around mid Dec 2001 timeline—don’t check
CNN, or the other disinformation channels though.
If you support Obama, that’s obviously your choice; I voted for him in 2008, he talks a good game. Just make sure that you’re informed of the actual facts and not just buying into the media and political propaganda about something as serious as potential war. We have vast knowledge at our fingertips now with the Internet, there is no excuse for not being informed. I support Ron Paul because he understands the dire state of our economy, that our Constitution is being eroded by legislature such as the Patriot Act and NDAA, that no soldier should have to die or be wounded needlessly. What does Obama stand for?
I appreciate your service and I will be the first to say that I’m proud of you. I’m am not saying this from the normal means, I have a big brother, and my son that is and will be involved in all of this crap! My big brother has been involved with it since 1978, and he knows .
I will be honest, I did not read the entire message. (that’s honest) But I will say this: President Obama was able to “make the call”, and he was able to do the same again this very week when the same seal team got some hostages out.
Obama isn’t a great President, he’s not a Lincoln, he’s not a Roosevelt, but he knows what needs to be be done. He got Bin Laden, and he got those pirates, with the same Seal team, they understand him, and they know, that he will make the hard calls.
Obama didn’t agree with the war in Iraq, and if you think about it why would you. We had a tragic thing happen on 9/11/01…..and Bush attacked ….Iraq? A place where the guy had never been before, and unfoturantely, you were part of that.
Again I appreciate your service, I had two grampies that died in the wars, that’s number 1 and number 2. They aren’t buried in Arlington.
and if you need to know: One was a merchant seaman on the Atlantic and the other was in the Bulge……whatever, our costs are not worth money.
You do know that Iran has now become our biggest threat, if that is what you call it? Iran has in fact mined the straight of Hormuz, and that Iran knows that Iraq is politically venerable. Do you understand that Iraq and Iran have been at war with each other since…….the Benzyntine Empire.
I’m certain that you know about how the government works in Iran. The more tribal votes you have, you win the Presidency. That does not mean that all of the tribes advocate your presidency.
I know a bit about Iran and Iraq, they are twin states that have always hated each other and and have only combined forces when there was an imminent invasion…..such as WW2. The same thing happened in China when Mao combined with Chen Kai Chek to fight the Japanese, they both were opportunist.
There is a reason why the Roman Empire kept them separate. The Ottoman’s did the same. And they knew nothing at all about oil, we should do the same.
I’m very familiar with what is happening with Iran and the US/Allies; it’s my job. Also, my son is now a soldier and has served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, I don’t want him deployed to yet another war that is not needed.
Of course, Iran has defenses ready in/along the Strait of Hormuz; it is their territorial waters. We have defenses along our territorial waters; most sovereign nations do. The recent (Dec/Jan) fast boat activity that CNN was parading as evidence of Iran’s aggression towards our naval vessels is actually a known daily occurrence and is perfectly normal activity. The US naval forces knew there was no threat, but yet someone within the Pentagon or White House wanted to escalate the fear level for us, the terror deluded public. The rhetoric was becoming to0 heated and now even Panetta (last week or so) and some other top brass, as well as some Israeli leaders, are stating that Iran does not have nuclear weapons and that a war with Iran would be catastrophic. This is something already well known. The US has war-gamed against Iran before and in just about every scenario the US losses would be too severe—not to mention the implication for Israel—it’s why we didn’t go forward with an attack back in 2006. Let’s not forget that Israel has many nuclear weapons, as does the US, Iran does not want to fight. It has also repeatedly invited and allowed IAEA inspectors into the country. Iran is not the instigator in this issue, but if we continue to economically strangle them, openly call for assassinations of their scientist or other ‘covert ops’ there may be severe consequences.
The bigger issue here is that Iran, India, Russia, China, Japan and some other nations are starting to use their own currencies (and even gold) for trade amongst themselves, therefore, bypassing the USD. That is the major issue here. The US has had control through the petrodollar and USD as the world reserve, but that is starting to slip. Saddam was starting to trade in Euros prior to our invasion, Gaddafi wanted to trade in gold dinars and was attempting to persuade the entire African Union to do so. Don’t you find it curious that we demonize and attempt to militarily attack every country that chooses to use their natural resources in the best interest of their own country vs letting the West steal them for a penance?
BTW, are you comparing the US to the Roman Empire or the Ottoman Empire…? And suggesting that we as the US Empire should take up the peace keeping of the Shia and Sunni Muslim populace? There is a reason the Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire failed—we should heed their mistakes.
Oh no, no,….I used those, the Roman and the Ottoman empires as a metaphor as to can what can occur to a state that thinks it is superior over the world. Combined, I may be embellishing it, but they lasted almost 2400 years. We are but 23 6!
The Shiite and Sunni Musslim populace is as predictable as Norhern Ireland getting along with others. When it’s beneficial, which is not very rare, they will.
Christianity felled both the Roman and Ottoman Empires, they are the same thing in different regions of Europe. Christianity weakened both to a degree that they were vunerable to outside invaders, which exactly why the the United States is strong in it’s convictions…….we don’t pick and choose, we aren’t allowed to by the constitution.
I would never compare the United States to any empire, our Manifest Destiny is done and over with. We know our bounds, at the chagrin of the american indians and perhaps Mexico. Sea to Shining Sea and all of that.
Over in the Middle East, it’s not about boundaries. It’s about who’s right about a god. Jesus, Allah, Mohammed….. The funny thing that I find is, that the Christ that is prevalent in our country was a jewish carpenter from the same region.
I also find it interesting that we call the person that fly’s in the sky, who burned and bombed millions of people in wars in the air, or flew in space, or on the moon…..and claimed victory…a pilot. What is the name of the person that crucified Jesus.
Thank you for the nice words. Seriously. I’m not attempting to persuade you to vote a particular way–if you like the way the country is going, vote for the same type of politicians–otherwise, vote for Ron Paul 2012. :-)
There has to be a reason so many military and Internet savvy people are drawn to his message. With Obama it was his youth, movie star good looks and message of change—and there has been change, but not particularly positive. For example, with NDAA, troops, like my son, may be ordered to arrest and indefinitely detain US citizens without probable cause, without being able to seek counsel, based off of secret information. There is legislation that basically states that people expressing dissent by protesting the government could be considered ‘low level’ terrorist. ‘We the people’ are under threat of siege by our government.
Reference your last two paragraphs…Iraq attacked Iran in the 80’s at the encouragement and support of the US. Iran was taken off guard and suffered a lot of death at first–especially due to chemicals that US helped supply Iraq. Iran knows and remembers the history very well, it also remembers the US involvement in the 1953 forced regime change of Iran’s democratically elected leader.
Everyone knows this is all about natural resources and geopolitical advantages against both Russia and China. Syria is the gateway to Iran. Iran is the soft under belly to Russia and it is also one of the major energy supplies to China. In order to get the full picture of what is happening in the region a knowledge of the area since the early 1900’s is useful.
I’m an American and I love my country, but the foreign policy is wrong. The US, as great as it is and as much hope/potential that it has, has been undeniably aggressive for decades. I understand the need to maintain economic and military dominance, but what we as a country have been doing is crazy. Statistically, an average of 40 innocent civilians die per 1 intended ‘terrorist target’ when drones are used. Internationally, everyday there are reports of drones killing people (Yeman, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia..now Turkey has purchased US drones and are killing innocent Kurds). Internationally, these drones are called “terror attacks” and NATO is called the “North Atlantic Terrorist Organization”. This is not a video game; these are real people dying by the hundreds per week.
Also, you have to remember that the Middle East/North Africa is basically the cradle of civilization. Their culture and history goes back thousands of years and, yes, there have been wars, but look at the US. How many wars have we been involved in since our Revolution for Independence. Who are we to judge an entire region of the world for their religious or political battles, when we–a young nation–have been constantly at war?
We are but 236 years old, we are absolutely still in the crib as compared to the history of these nations. They fight for several things: religion (obviously) politics (which involves your religious beliefs) and money and lastly, religion.
My point is this: America isn’t gonna fix their religious thing, not gonna happen. America is what it is….a nation of mutts. But we are a very powerful nation of mutts.
The areas that we are fighting in and taking for granted for are those same areas where our Christian saint Jesus was crucified. Christ was a Jewish carpenter who converted or formulated another religion. I’ve read the bible, it’s a great book.
But this is America. We acknowledge all religion’s, it says in the constitution that you can believe what you wish. My point is this: America, this is where we can be us, need not interfere on ancient old tribal disputes any longer. We have invented that changed the world, oil included. Light bulbs, atomic bombs, TV’s and radio. I can go on and on, but what we did is sell them. I’m not an isolationist, but I do think that any American company that produces outside of our country, and sells it’s product to us, should pay a tariff, that is not to be be recovered by the consumer. If you wanna play, you are gonna pay, not us.
However, we need to be aware of what is going on around us. It happened when on Dec. 7th 1941, and it happened on Nov. 11, 2001,
Let’s just be leaders of technology and science, of inventions and innovation instead of war and compliance and ridicule and hate. We will go on, just as those in the sand have.
When you aren’t full of BS yet? ,,,, I’ll tell you all about it. I have a son that was on the ground and a brother that is a boomer in the air, BOTH have said it’s done. My son is in England and my brother is in Bangor.
So, I do know a little about this, my son wants to go to Afghanistan. I told him that that’s a done deal. You worry about you.
He’s 19
The elections are rigged. I love Ron Paul but he won’t get elected. Even if he gets a majority of the votes, as he did in Iowa, he won’t get elected. You don’t seriously think that the owners of the USSA would allow a rogue candidate now do you?
Amazing deduction sir/maam
Awful lot of “new faces” on the BDN board this evening. I wonder how many will still be around when we have a heated debate over who makes a bettah been suppah, Mavis or Walter? Or better yet “the OTHER Maine” South of Portland or South of Augusta.
Go on home folks, tourist season is over.
Point well taken. Just wait until the robo-calls start. hahaha..
Actually, as big a nuisance as the election process is for the early primaries, you have much to do with the future of our nation. Please be tolerant of the hassles, the vetting process is so important.
(And by all means, please look closely at Dr Paul, don’t let the media control things) ;)
This coming from a man who voluntarily says that he “wouldn’t have taken a shot a Bin Laden”, and that he would have worked with Pakastani’s to “arrest him”. You know, those guys that knew he was there.
He’s an isolationist, a tea party isolationist who thinks that US doesn’t really need the world market. And that a number of submarines can protect us from harm! Anyone who attacks us will pay within hours! he purports. How long was it before we got Bin Laden??
Grab a handful of reality Congressman, the good ole days are gone. And the Pakistani’s never would have give up Bin Laden. In the age of satellites, nuclear weapons, the internet and terrorism, we have to protect ourselves with other means than isolationism and “a number of submarines”
Just what we need….another Texan…….
Sounds like your a hopeless cause so I won’t waste my time. That’s Pakistan by the way.
Sounds like he’s the one is the lost cause.
He’s a freak, he’s not in touch with reality, his own former staff member’s have said that his foreign policy isn’t even fathomable. Lastly, he has the former director of the Me. Christian Civic League, Mike Heath, on his campaign staff. That’s gonna be the quickest way to lose an election in this state.
Take your losing cause and run with it, you will hit a wall and bump your head. We don’t need Texas politics running our country, all three Texan’s we have had ran the country to war, wanna play that game again? Not me.
He also has former chief Michael Scheuer (of the CIA bin Laden unit) supporting his foreign non-intervention policy, and agrees completely with Dr Paul’s assessment of the entire history of how it was botched, and how blowback is created.
OK…..so that means what? He worked for the Bush Administration….remember, the one that couldn’t find him?
Along with the Obama Administration as well, yes.
The CIA, and later the Seals, followed orders. It took forever for that to come to pass because a lack of initiative on intelligence seeking. No one is saying that Dr Paul is another Bush. Much to the contrary. Don’t forget, Ron Paul was in Congress through all that time of both Presidents as well. They all see, even Congress.It’s been Big Government on both sides, for so very long, it’s hard for anyone to imagine different. Except now a lot of people are thinking, and asking questions, and getting some answers. So for those who reject this political phenomena, or haven’t delved into the details, just understand why so many ask the questions. It’s not crazy… It’s crazy not to.
May I remind you that Obama is the one that got him! That Obama decided that oil isn’t more important than American lives? And can I ask you: why the hell did Bush attack Iraq when he knew that Bin Laden was in Pakistan or Afghanistan? How many kids were killed, because of what?…. sounds like another President from Texas. Pick one, LBJ or George Sr, either one.
We ask questions in search of answers, you don’t look for questions in search of answers.
Thank you for your service, I know it doesn’t matter what your duty was or is, but thanks, I owe you a beer!! and that is not rhetorical or subversive, I do owe him, at least at beer!
Actually, if you delve into the circumstances surrounding the decision to nail Bin Laden, Obama had to be persuaded to do it. The persuasion became quite forceful to get a decision out of him. Look it up. It was not a priority at the time for him and there was trepidation that if it failed it would “make him look bad”.
The real credit goes to the CIA for their intelligence (however, it sort of fell in their laps) but most importantly the SEALS. But as Paul says, we could have taken him alive and tried him in court (certainly the same outcome, but constitutionally legal). We missed an opportunity to interrogate him. He was far more valuable alive than summarily killed.
We also had missed numerous opportunities in the past to get him.
Absolutely true that we should have never been in Iraq the second time. Nor should we be in Afghanistan. Nor should we be in Libya, Syria or attacking Pakistan. Blowback is certain ( a term coined by the CIA, not Ron Paul). Dr Paul simply refers to the CIA concept of blowback to support his policy.
I make no excuses for Bush. Sr or Jr, not LBJ. I respect people for their character and desire to serve their oath, not political rhetoric and war mongering. I’m an Independent who has signed up as Republican simply to support Ron Paul. I would have signed up to be a Democrat (or Libertarian) if that was his party.
I vote the man, not the party.
A Paul presidency would have captured Bin Laden very quickly. Please look up the Air Piracy Reprisal and Capture Act of 2001 introduced by Ron Paul. We failed to get him for so long because we got distracted by oil and nation building rather than justice.
No one is a bigger proponent of free trade than Ron Paul, who is decidedly not an isolationist. One easy example is Cuba, where he supports opening the trade lines to Cuba while the others support an isolationist policy.
I honestly think you have fundamental misunderstandings regarding his views. I would suggest reading his book Liberty Defined. If you still disagree with him, so be it.
Now, please tell me how he would have captured him “very quickly”? Negotiating with the Pakinstani governenment?, the military? Which one of the two was harboring him?
No, this is not a free trade environment, this is a preservation of american values. Everyone in the world knows that Americans are leaders, what american leaders don’t understand is that we are not the world’s market.
If we want to be a leader in the world, then we cannot allow our technology and industry to go overseas due to cheaper labor. It’s time to bring american ideas back to america. If Ron Paul thinks that his isolationism strategy will work where is american products going to sell their product?
His plan doesn’t work, this isn’t 1935. There is no more isolating America.
The Candidtate himself has said that he would have “bargained with the Pakistani government” in order to bring him “to justice”.
Sorry, this President did the right thing and made a very ballsy call….. And it’s funny …..how he had a bar be que with Seal team 6, never asked them their names or who did what…..but yet, the same Seal Team does it again for him…….They have confidence in him!
Ron Paul has great ideas. His rival even agree, except for his international views
Ron Paul Supports the Military and the Military Supports Ron Paul. Dr Paul receives more contributions from active duty military personnel than all the other candidates including Obama combined. Bring our troops home NOW.
Look Admiral Mullen of the joint chiefs in a hearing in front of congress was asked what is the number one national security threat.His answer was the national debt. Dr.Paul is the only one with a plan. Also The former head of the CIA unit in charge of Bin Liden has endorsed Dr. Paul Michael Scheuer. Google it. You tube ” Ron Paul Predictions” and “Why does Ron Paul inspire people”
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Looking at this poll it looks like the dems really want Ron Paul as the republican nominee. He’s probably the only one Obama can beat. Ron Paul is a certified nut.
Actually, maineboy, both Paul and Romney poll very well vs. Obama. Gingrich and Santorum consistently lag far behind in general election match-ups.
And why is he a certified nut and who certified him?
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C’mon maineboy, you opened your mouth, now put your money where your mouth is. That’s the problem with the anti Paul’s, you constantly spew out that he’s a nutcase but can’t back it up with any fact. As the saying goes, put up or shut up!
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Am I the only one that thinks Santorum is .. really, really creepy? I get the chilly willies every time I see him.
Com’n Ron, it’s time to retire, completely! You can do it here and travel back and forth to Florida, just be sure to stay within the tax guidelines…
I bet you can not ride a bicycle as far in the hot sun as Ron Paul can! Ron Paul is the only honest candidate and he means what he says and says what he means
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So should I have been more specific and stated mercenaries—Blackwater and the plethora of other companies— instead of ‘defense contractors’? I’m not sure what your argument is here, but bottom line is that Obama had nothing to do with the troops leaving, he tried to extend the SOFA status. Also, there are still around 8,000 troops and a ton of equipment in the semi-autonomous Northern Iraq better known as ‘Iraqi Kurdistan’. Interestingly enough, where did the Iraqi VP run to when he was accused of commissioning acts of terror against the Iraqi people for the purpose of increasing sectarian violence? That’s right Northern Iraq.
Having been a soldier in Iraq, I can assure you that whatever sectarian violence that is occurring there now is a direct result of US/allies instigation. And yes we had thousands of US soldiers killed and that’s a terrible waste as a result of warmongering political leaders and the mainstream media feeding the citizens propaganda. As a result, we’ve also completely destroyed a country, Iraq—schools, hospitals, the economy, basically the entire infrastructure, and let’s not forget the hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Imagine our troops suffering from PTSD after one or two tours in Iraq due to the violence of war and then imagine how the majority of Iraqi’s have been living with war in their streets for almost a decade. This was all due to propaganda; Iraq was not a threat to the US or anyone else. As a soldier, I volunteered to defend the country, not fight, kill or possibly die in order for a select few to make money. Why would any rational person, soldier or civilian, want to rush headlong into another war based off propaganda?
Do you actually know anything about the Middle-East, Iran in particular? Iran does not have a nuclear weapon. Iran does not have the military might to attack the US and it has not shown any aggression to US or NATO troops right in it’s back yard. In fact, Iran has not shown aggression to any country in over a hundred years! Do some research and see how many acts of war or ‘regime changes’ the US has instigated in the past 60 yrs. This is ridiculous. One has to think rationally about who would benefit—whether monetarily or geopolitically—from a war with Iran? It certainly isn’t going to be you, me, or the average American citizen, but a whole lot of people will suffer/die from it.
BTW, Osama was never in Iraq, had nothing to do with Iraq, so I’m not
sure why you are bringing that up. However, you might want to do some
research on Osama Bin Laden around mid Dec 2001 timeline—don’t check
CNN, or the other disinformation channels though.
If you support Obama, that’s obviously your choice; I voted for him in 2008, he talks a good game. Just make sure that you’re informed of the actual facts and not just buying into the media and political propaganda about something as serious as potential war. We have vast knowledge at our fingertips now with the Internet, there is no excuse for not being informed. I support Ron Paul because he understands the dire state of our economy, that our Constitution is being eroded by legislature such as the Patriot Act and NDAA, that no soldier should have to die or be wounded needlessly. What does Obama stand for?
Lest we forget, the 17,000 diplomatic and advisory people left there as well. Advisers,, hmm, that’s what we called the first ones in, into Viet Nam. Some sort of weird backwards deja vu (all over again).
At any rate, Afghanistan has turned into our longest and most expensive war ever, and it’s not even a declared war. We have Nat. Guardsmen there, that are in their 40’s with boots on the ground. What’s that say about the level of soldiers we have “on ready” within our own borders? We spend 2 billion dollars a day,, a day, to maintain our presence in Afghanistan. When the Afghan mining concessions were being awarded a couple months ago, who were they awarded to? Yep,, China. The country that totes our note.
Does no one ask “what’s wrong with this picture?
Yea, some do,, the men in uniform who see with perfect clarity, just how ludicrous this whole global military occupation is working.. er, isn’t working.
I just heard we are opening up a rather open ended line of credit for the IMF to bail out foreign banks and financial institutions. At the same time we are debating raising our own debt ceiling by a trillion dollars! A trillion here, a trillion there,, pretty soon it adds up to real money, right?
Naa,, we can just keep printing more, and borrowing more from China to bail out other crooked socialized state owned foreign banks. That’s tax money now (and for the next 2-3 generations).
Now tell me again, with Ron Paul wanting to pull the plug on all these bizarre global monopoly game players, who is crazy??
Hint: We are, for putting up with it for all this time.
I know…it’s like some Orwellian nightmare, but very few people seem to get it.
It wasn’t very well publicized, but there is a very large and expensive new prison scheduled to be built in Afghanistan. http://www.salon.com/2011/09/19/bagram_7/
We have homeless people in every major city, a large portion of our populace are in poverty, yet we can spend billions on a new prison in Afghanistan–a country we are scheduled to leave by 2014. It’s also kind of interesting that in the 10 years we’ve been in Afghanistan, the opium/herion production has increased exponentially—something like 90% of the worlds illicit opium comes from Afghanistan. Insanity.
OLD REPUBLICAN PARTY BYE BYE!!!! in with the Old Ways- True Ways , to be New Again/ ;-)) The Constitution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiKh9Ko3mw4&feature=player_embedded
For too many of us the wars this country fights are far removed, reduced to headlines in a newspaper or an occasional heartfelt moment when the death of an unknown neighbor is told over local television, but for others these wars live in our home; we are the families of those who serve or have served. Our lives, forever changed, carry the reality of war, and though none of us ask for special consideration, we all expect that every American understand that there is an untold price which is paid by some of us that is not shared by all Americans. It’s time, that as Americans we openly discuss a real end to these wars without being shutdown or censored by the media. It’s time that our candidate for president, a man who promises to bring our men home, be heard and not labeled. It’s time that responsible journalism come to the aid of our nation torn by a decade of war and stand against the bias that silences his words of peace. We don’t ask the nation to pay our price, we only ask that our candidate be heard. Ron Paul has a message for peace and we believe it’s time that it should be heard by all Americans.
“You People” The ron paul supporters have this mantra among yourselves. It’s weird. I keep thinking that next you’ll demand the rest of us start calling him The great Leader. You know what “they” say “walks like a duck, quacks like a duck” must be an old man squacking(sic).
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Wow! Glad I have the BDN to tell me who the “main Republican candidates” are before the caucuses in Maine begin!
Apparently, the “main” candidates are…EVERYONE except RON PAUL!
We have only had primary/caucus elections in 3 out of 50 states. In Iowa, Paul split the delegates evenly with Romney and Santorum, and soundly beat Gingrich. Next door in New Hampshire, Ron Paul came in second behind Romney, soundly beating out two of the BDN-anointed “main candidates”. That was close. I was going to vote for Ron Paul, but now that I know that he is not one of the “main candidates”, I’ll be sure to vote for one of the other utterly interchangeable, wholly- owned-by-Wall Street puppets instead!
Forget about “Republicans” vs. “Democrats”. Wall Street owns and controls them both equally. Most political “battles” between the Republican puppets and the Democrat puppets are contrived diversions, intended to divide the public into opposed factions, and to distract the people that compose those factions from noticing the puppet master that is pulling both sets of strings.
Wall Street always tries to steer things in such a way that come November, they don’t care a great deal who the American people “elect”, because they own both sides of the ballot. The time to change that is NOW, before the party nominations are made. This is the time that the Wall Street establishment power structure is vulnerable to electoral actions of the ordinary people. Ron Paul is the one and only candidate in this race from either party that the elite Wall Street banksters are scared of, and that is why the media is trying so desperately to ignore him.
Do you want to know who to vote for in an election in this country at this time in history? Try this: Sit back and watch, and listen, and think. See if you can discern who it is (whether Republican, Democrat or otherwise) that “the establishment” and the media DO NOT want you to vote for…then vote for exactly that person.
Ron Paul is nothing but a fringe candidate and he is not going to be president. Ever!
There has never been a libertarian government anywhere on earth and never will be. That fact speaks volumes.
He offers great talking points, but what he proposes would destroy the country. That’s all he offers.
Ron Paul’s in Maine, and I’m disappointed i can’t see him , but I’m there in Spirit .. Long live the Ron Paul Revolution That Watered the withered tree Of Liberty .. Come on Maine lets bring back the Saying, so goes Maine so goes the Nation . Lets get Ron Paul in the White House,be refreshing to have some honesty in the oval office , its been a long while. Ron Paul 2012 He can win with the popular vote , so don’t lose heart people the more who spread his message of freedom , The more who will vote for him for that purpose alone ..
To see the welcome you gave Ron Paul. It makes me want to move to Maine!