POLL QUESTION

Bangor voters to decide if city’s dispatch center should be consolidated

Communications specialist Will Lovejoy (standing) of Dexter and senior supervisor Tracy Hall of Hermon pull up radio logs on the center's computer system as Bangor city councilors take a tour of the Penobscot Regional Communications Center in January 2011.
Communications specialist Will Lovejoy (standing) of Dexter and senior supervisor Tracy Hall of Hermon pull up radio logs on the center's computer system as Bangor city councilors take a tour of the Penobscot Regional Communications Center in January 2011.
Posted Oct. 24, 2011, at 8:14 p.m.
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BANGOR, Maine — A proposal that has been discussed for more than a decade will once again come to a vote, but this time it’s Bangor’s voters — not just the City Council — who will decide whether Bangor consolidates its emergency dispatch services.

And the issue is no less contentious or divisive this time around.

The question on the Nov. 8 local ballot, placed there because of a petition drive, will ask voters if they favor keeping Bangor’s 911 and nonemergency dispatch center. Voting no would give the City Council the go-ahead to enter into negotiations with the Penobscot Regional Communications Center to add Bangor’s emergency dispatch service responsibilities to those of the 13 other municipalities the center serves.

City Manager Cathy Conlow and other city officials and representatives supporting consolidation argue that the move not only would save money but also increase jobs without compromising the safety or services available to residents.

Jim Morrill, a member of the group Bangor Matters and a Bangor dispatcher, says the cost savings may not be as great as expected and that familiarity and response time will lessen if emergency dispatch duties shift from the city to a regional agency.

The consolidation plan concept is for Bangor’s eight dispatchers to switch over to the Penobscot Regional Communications Center, performing the same duties but at a different location — the old courthouse on Hammond Street — for a different organization with different bosses.

Because the Bangor dispatch center at the police station handles nonemergency calls as well — everything from permitting help to questions about hours of operation and paying fines or bills — the Bangor Police Department would create five new positions to handle those responsibilities.

Conlow estimates it would be at least six months before the system can be implemented.

The case for consolidation

As far as Conlow is concerned, it’s a pretty clear-cut case to consolidate.

“Bangor residents will be just as safe under PRCC as they are with Bangor operations,” she said. “How often can you get a chance to save money and maintain services while gaining jobs at the same time?”

“Closing our dispatch center and moving it over to PRCC while augmenting our nonemergency services by creating four new clerical positions along with a police lieutenant in Bangor PD would still save us money,” she added. “So we create additional jobs and save $200,000 in the process.”

Jim Ryan, executive director of the Penobscot Regional Communications Center, says it makes sense for Bangor to join, especially since the city already pays 23 percent of the county communications agency’s budget.

“If the citizens decide to keep their dispatch, that’s up to them,” he said. “They’re already paying for it and we’re doing it for everyone in the county.”

It costs Bangor $562,000 annually to operate its own dispatch and another $380,000 for help fund the regional center.

“In Bangor’s case, they’re automatically going to save money,” Ryan said. “They’ll have their own operations at a cost of about $112,000. We’ll welcome them and we’ll do a great job.”

Ryan laughs off the argument that Penobscot Regional Communications Center would be overwhelmed or challenged by the addition of Bangor.

“I have 13 law enforcement agencies now and 91 total with all emergency departments and we’re doing it well,” he said.

But what about those nonemergency functions?

“There are some things that go away, like calling [after hours or on the weekend] about a permit for a yard sale or finding out about the hours for the dump,” Ryan said.

If Bangor joins up, the communications center will establish three “consoles” dedicated to Bangor with two of them staffed full time — just like the system Bangor now employs.

“Our workload will increase about 30 percent, so I’d have to hire eight people,” Ryan said. “And I’ve already told them that any who want to come over will get a green light to be hired.”

So why are some opposed to the idea?

“I think the resistance comes from the dispatchers hiring on to work with Bangor,” said Ryan, who has been the communications center director for five years. “I worked 33 years as communications supervisor with Maine State Police. Thirty years in, they decided to break off into the Department of Public Safety and [Communications] Division.”

But Ryan said the adjustment wasn’t that difficult.

“I didn’t sign up to work for them, so there was a loyalty issue,” he said. “It’s like school consolidation when someone is a Rockland student and then all of a sudden they’re going to Oceanside High School with students added from another school.”

Moving over to the Penobscot Regional Communications Center may actually be a career enhancer for Bangor dispatchers.

“Moving to the county side may be beneficial in that there’s more chance for upward mobility and promotion,” said Bangor City Councilor Charlie Longo, who signed the petition seeking the referendum.

Ryan also dismisses claims that communications center employees don’t know Bangor.

“I grew up on Sidney Street. My dad was a Bangor firefighter at the old Central Station,” he said. “I guess the point I’m making is I have people working for me now born and raised in Bangor, went to school here. … So it’s not like we’re not familiar with Bangor.”

The case for continuation

For Morrill, it’s all about local control, presence and service.

“One of the big things for me is Bangor dispatchers do more than take calls and send them out,” he said. “We take Bangor Public Works calls as well after hours, and we’re the 211 contact point for human services throughout the state, handling city welfare and such.”

Morrill said Bangor dispatch gets 250,000 calls a year on the business line and about a quarter to a third of them are calls for service.

“We get people locked out of a car or wanting a cab. We do property checklists and keep track of burn permits, vehicles towed, and so forth,” he said. “Most if not all of those services will go away if we no longer have a comm center.”

Morrill pointed out that city buildings such as schools, City Hall, and the police and fire stations all have in-house alarm systems that instantaneously notify emergency officials.

“If we consolidate, we have to retrofit all buildings with alarms for third-party systems like ADT or Seacoast Security, so that could cost more,” Morrill pointed out. “And I think consolidating could delay response time for fire alarms.”

“We are by no means saying that PRCC can’t do the job. Some of them have more experience, some of them have less experience,” Morrill added. “And I know we all have computer software with accurate mapping, and that saves a lot of time, but when it doesn’t work, what’s the backup plan? You can’t totally compensate for the human element.”

While not passionately against consolidation, Longo still isn’t completely sold on it.

“Basically what it is is that both facilities could be very well suited to take care of the people of Bangor. I just prefer the Bangor way we’ve been doing it,” Longo said. “I’m trying to err on the side of the local, but I’ll stay behind whatever the voters’ decision is. I’m just glad the citizens will be voting on it.”

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  • Anonymous

    Why is there even a debate over this? The taxpayers are fed up with entrenched city bureaucracy wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars every year because they fear “disgruntled” employee’s. I lost my job as a buggy whip salesman and didn’t cry and force the city to mandate that horseless carriages be outlawed or curtailed to keep my job!

  • Anonymous

    Wow, amazing how Savings fluctuate.  A quote in the paper has savings of “$500,000 … says [Bangor Councilor] Bronson” and yet here the City Manager savings of $200,000.  For people that are in support of consolidation, this seems like a big difference!

    FACT CHECKING:
    As for jobs:  10 Bangor Dispatchers “lose” their jobs.  8 are “hired” at Regional dispatch and 4 clerical persons are hired.  Gross change +2 jobs! (The mentioned Lieutenant is actually an eliminated position, so I have a hard time calling it a “new” job and most likely will be filled by an existing employee and not create a new job).  But…at what cost?

    So, follow the numbers here:  
    Bangor “saves” $562,000, then loses income of $39,500=$522,500
    $522,500 – $39,500 to make up for the lost revenue expense = $483,000
    $483,000 – “new” jobs of $275,000 = $208,000
    $208,000 – additional County Tax ~$115,000 = $93,000
    Maybe I am wrong, but that does not look like $200,000 or $500,000. tsk tsk
    Also out of the $93,000 you have to consider retrofitting numerous public buildings with modern fire alarm components AND pay a MONTHLY cost to now monitor them through third party.  There is NO useful savings coming from consolidation.  On top of this, ALL other municipalities have to pay a total of $385,000 more to have Bangor’s dispatch..Unfair to all County residents.

  • Anonymous

    So, as I have been saying since 2009 when this surfaced, money is the ONLY thing to look at.  If you really want a solution see the financial document under “DOCS” at http://www.bangormatters.com  

    Here you will see a true solution with savings of ~$172,000 PER YEAR for Bangor and a savings of ~7.5% PER YEAR for EVERY municipality in Penobscot County.  Everything stays the same and EVERYONE saves money.

  • Anonymous

    This question is a non-issue.  The city can’t afford, and doesn’t need to pay for redundant services – there are too many other important things to spend money on.  A regional dispatch center will be totally unnoticed because it won’t make any difference.  The city has worked to make sure that the people who are currently working at the dispatch center will have new jobs at the county center.  We need to do this and move on to more important issues.

  • Anonymous

    This story needs some serious proof-reading!

  • Anonymous

    Bad timing. Budgets are down, staffing is down. Crimes are up, bath salts are everywhere. Now you want to dispatch remotely?  If we keep whittling away at the ability of the police or EMS to function properly (as they have been) then we are only putting ourselves at risk. Bangor has been nationally recognized as the safest city of its size. Bangor can be proud of this recognition.  We, the citizens of Bangor, know what we pay for in our tax bill – public safety. 

  • Anonymous

    Here we
    go again. This proposal is from the same City Council that brought us the new
    arena project. Now I am receiving flyers in the mail telling me to vote against
    casinos elsewhere in Maine or risk huge revenue cuts in Bangor. Didn’t anyone
    see this coming? 

     

    This
    council did not investigate the arena issue properly so I have
    little faith that they are thinking correctly on this issue either. Once Bangor
    loses its dispatch they lose all control of that service. If the county
    increases the fees in the future – tough luck for us. Remember, they just gave
    themselves a million dollar budget increase in anticipation of Bangor joining.
    When Bangor didn’t go did we get any money back? No! Have they been
    banking the overage or spending it? When they hire all the new dispatchers
    will they be increasing the budget again? How long before they tell us they
    need more money? 

    Give up
    control and become the servant of another. Common sense tells you that as
    governments get bigger (wider) they get less efficient. Please think this one
    through because I don’t think the council did. 

     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RRGWHVIMEW5JE2TIZPXAUE5MA4 mejusttingtobeme12

    I would say it is not true ask EMT< the red cross and any one else who has dealt when them so far they all hatte it!!!

  • Anonymous

    Penobscot and Bangor dispatch are like…well, shopping at Walmart or a hometown general store. Bear with me for the comparison. Walmart is bigger, lower prices, and meant to service a broad spectrum of needs. The general store, their prices are comparable, maybe a few cents more, but the service you get is tailored to that community and their needs. Bangor dispatch is tailored to suit the specific needs of the City of Bangor. You may pay a little more, but is Public Safety where you really want to skimp?

  • Moose

    If  you think a call center is the right thing you better hold on. Bangor has a great Police and Fire and Public Work Department and allowing them have there own dispatch is well worth the money. In Central Maine where this is already in the call center mode is worse thing that could have happened.If you need a Police officer at times it take half  hour. So if you pass this center plan on just being a number.Instead of being a buggy whip salesman. I thought Diva’s closed, become a police officer they are hiring all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Did you forget that us residents voted, at nearly a 3 to 1 rate, in support of the Arena?  It is NOT just a decision of the Council.

  • Anonymous

    This is true but what we must, as citizens, consider along with this is that our city is growing and as it grows we develop big city problems…including a rise in our crime rate. Is it a good thing to expand our city…sure, but at the same time we need to be sure that we have the best public services in place for the citizens. PRCC is not bad but is it best for Bangor? According to the PRCC website it services 67 plus agencies. We will be one agency making up approximately 45 percent of the calls. How can PRCC possibly provide this service in a more effective manner than our own Bangor dedicated dispatch? And, as far as cost…there is a precedent set for the county to not only charge Bangor a percentage of the cost of PRCC but to also charge us fees for service. The county decides what services to charge for, how much and when to start charging the fees. Also, consider, we still have 16 years left to pay on the Bangor Police Department Dispatch center loans…and once you give up your dispatch center you can not have it back.  The real question should be…is Bangor dispatch or PRCC better FOR Bangor? Another thing to consider…if Bangor is not taken over by PRCC the taxpayers get $115,000.00 a year back from the county.

  • Anonymous

    In addition, Bangor City Manager’s memo to the city councilors states that the cost does not include cost of equipment. I would take this to mean dispatching equipment, furniture, lighting, etc…not to mention upgrades or expansion of the PRCC facility. tsk tsk is right.

  • Anonymous

    The city councilors…visiting PRCC again??!! When is the last time they toured our own Bangor Police/Fire/EMS dispatch?!!

  • Anonymous

    We already paid to build that fire station one,and two we dont neeed to spend another 100,000 plus to hire more people that we dont need for non emergency etc. if we just keep what we have ,THERE WILL BE NO SAVINGS.

  • Anonymous

    bull

  • Anonymous

    Hi, yes 911? my wife just fell and hurt herself bad,whats  your address sir? 33 Prentiss St. ? how do ya spell Prentiss sir? oh, never mind ,ill just drag her on over to Oak St.. Trust me this aint far from the truth!!

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