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Roxanne Quimby calls Maine ‘a welfare state’

Roxanne Quimby speaks during a public meeting at the Northern Maine Timber Cruisers snowmobile club in Millinocket in May 2011.
Roxanne Quimby speaks during a public meeting at the Northern Maine Timber Cruisers snowmobile club in Millinocket in May 2011.
Posted Oct. 07, 2011, at 3:52 p.m.
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Roxanne Quimby
Roxanne Quimby

In an online interview published this week, environmentalist Roxanne Quimby called Maine “a welfare state” that has a large population of obese and elderly people and whose major landowners are committed to a forest products industry model that hasn’t worked in years.

Describing forest products landowners as “a very tight-knit group of industry people who own, manage and call the shots over ten million acres of land,” Quimby said they have aggressively harvested trees over the last 100 years “to the point where the mills in the area have been unable to stay competitive.”

“A hundred years later, there isn’t enough to make a living. They’ve all fragmented … sold off rights and easements … just to stay alive,” Quimby said in the question-and-answer-formatted interview, full of ellipses, which appeared on forbes.com, the website of the biweekly financial magazine Forbes. “But they still have not accepted that the old paradigm isn’t working. They’re in complete denial.”

“We have the most aged population in the country. … I believe we have one of the highest adult obesity rates in New England. We have … oxycontin abuse,” Quimby added. “Maine’s the largest net receiver of Federal funds, even though we supposedly hate the Feds … it’s a welfare state.”

Local leaders and forest products industry representatives described Quimby’s view of Mainers and the industry’s health as inaccurate, outdated and demeaning to the people whose support she needs if her plan to give 70,000 acres to the federal government for a national park is to succeed.

“The way this article portrays her is as someone who holds the people of this area in total disregard. She makes the people subservient to her goals of establishing her legacy with the national park and at the expense of the majority of the people in this region,” said Millinocket Town Manager Eugene Conlogue, who opposes Quimby’s national park initiative. “I am very sorry to see her say some of the things she has said.”

Attempts to reach Quimby were unsuccessful on Friday.

In the interview, Quimby spoke of the need to allow nature its place and to preserve the fragile East Branch of the Penobscot River. She also discussed her admiration of writer Henry David Thoreau and the beauty of the Katahdin region. But she described Katahdin region residents as “tone-deaf when it comes to the environment. But what is very urgent and pressing there is the economy.”

The state’s unemployment rate was 7.6 percent in August, with the national rate at 9.1 percent, U.S. Department of Labor statistics show. In the Katahdin region, which is the closest population center to her land, the unemployment rate has been 21 percent since its last paper mill closed in April.

Exactly how much Maine is a “welfare state” is difficult to quantify, but according to statistics compiled by the U.S. Department of Commerce for the 2009-10 fiscal year, Maine ranked 12th in per-capita federal aid to state and local governments.

To see the U.S. Census report on federal aid to states for fiscal year 2010, click here.

The region’s unemployment rate should drop significantly when the East Millinocket mill’s new owner resumes production later this month. Cate Street Capital also plans to restart another mill in Millinocket in several months.

The new mill ownership shows that though its paper and forest products industries have contracted significantly over the last two decades, Maine’s forest products industry is far from dead, members say.

“What Maine has is a well-managed, integrated forest and forest products complex better than any Northeastern state’s,” said Keith Van Scotter, co-owner of Lincoln Paper and Tissue LLC. “It is an efficient industry. We can go in and maximize the use of the forest. Logging is managed very, very well in the state today and is very highly regulated from an environmental perspective.”

The forest products industry is facing a “tremendous increase” in the demand for wood, so much so that state leaders are worried about a shortage of loggers. The present employment base is just barely meeting demand, said John Metrick, director of communications for the Maine Forest Products Council, which opposes her plan.

“It has become incredibly sensitive to the environment and that is something that is constantly progressing,” Metrick said. “It is really easy to make claims about logging and tearing down forests, but less than 3 percent of forests are clear-cut these days. Compare that to lands and how they were managed 100 years ago.”

Quimby also described how the region’s poor economy is affecting its schools.

“They’re having trouble keeping their schools open. Their grammar school is in the wing of the high school,” Quimby continued, in an apparent description of East Millinocket, whose leaders have taken no position on the park plan.

“They’re trying to recruit Chinese students to pay tuition and move there,” Quimby said, referring to Millinocket school leaders. “They worked their budget around thirty Chinese student recruits coming in and paying $35,000 a year to their high school. They got seven. It’s a total economic disaster.”

Millinocket school leaders originally hoped to have 60 Chinese students paying $24,000 tuition and as of Friday had three, said Arnold Hopkins, chairman of the Millinocket School Committee. Recruiting efforts continue.

“Ms. Quimby has been given the wrong information,” Hopkins said. “It is not a disaster. We anticipated that this thing [the China program] is an iffy proposition and we worked around it.”

“If Ms. Quimby wants to come and talk to us and get the true facts, we would be glad to talk to her,” he added.

Quimby described how a national park would be a boon for the northern Penobscot County economy and spoke proudly of her time as a co-founder of Burt’s Bees.

“It would provide enormous economic diversity and opportunity that doesn’t exist now,” Quimby said of a park. “Prosperity begins with small business, with committed, passionate people and communities and families that care about each other. And that’s still intact up there. It’s pretty amazing. … I’ve organized rural America … before, in Guilford, where I started Burt’s Bees, and I had up to about forty-five women and we got the business up to about $3 million in sales. It was like a sheer miracle.”

Quimby’s business success is indisputable, but the political acumen of disparaging the people she is trying to persuade to accept her park plan — and the intelligence of giving so much land to the federal government ― is questionable, Van Scotter said.

“She is trying to make her point by running the people down? It doesn’t make sense,” said Van Scotter, who has taken no position on Quimby’s park proposal. “I think our government representatives don’t like how she has approached things. I think she is not doing it [running the national park campaign] well. I am concerned about long-term access to raw materials and what letting the federal government in would do.

“The federal government hasn’t done the industry any favors, that’s for sure,” he added.

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  • Anonymous

    There is no “we” Roxanne.  You’ve never been one of us and you never will be.  The more you talk the more people find out who you really are.

  • Anonymous

    and we want NO PARK……

  • Anonymous

    What a statement!!! She sure isn’t one of us we’re just a bit more on the professional side then she will ever hope to be…waxing does wonders, you should try it … just saying…

  • Anonymous

    I’d be interested to see her sources claiming that we receive the most net federal funds. I’ve never heard that before anywhere. According to Tax Foundation studies, Maine is barely in the Top 15. I wish the BDN reporters would check the facts and challenge her on them.

  • pecheneng

    Sounds like she has no intention of actually bringing jobs to the area, wants to save it for the blue jays and insects instead.  Nice.

  • Anonymous

    “Roxanne Quimby calls Maine ‘a welfare state’”
    …and she would be right!

  • Anonymous

    Speak for yourself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    Perhaps Ms. Quimby would donate her land and the needed equipment to cut down Maine’s forests and build factories. Then we’d have jobs, and we wouldn’t need to be a “welfare state” any longer.

    Instead, she wants a park, where nothing happens and no money is made. Go figure.

  • Anonymous

    I have to agree with you Damyou!! Bring it…….

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Nick for reporting on this. Now everyone can see just what Quimby is all about. I’m glad she got caught with her foot in her mouth.

    Isn’t she a great steward of the NMW and the State of Maine?

    BAN ROXANNE!!!!!

    (talk about tone deaf, we’ve been saying it for years!!!!)

  • Anonymous

    What respect I had for this women was just tossed out the window!

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    Yikes…she just killed her shot at that park.  She forgot to add stubborn, proud and grudge holding to her description of Mainers.  

  • Anonymous

    I think MDI, or say Gatlinburg TN, might disagree with you about no money being made in connection to a park.

  • Anonymous

    Boy, it didn’t take long to find out that the real truth does HURT. Thats the way to go uninformend Maine peopls. In a 100 more years you will still be setting around wondering what went wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Where’s Burt’s Bees now, it sure isn’t in Maine!!

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, she is 100% correct. Maine will always be a poor state and enconomically depressed. It will never change, there is no incentive for business to move to Maine, never has been and never will. Those that live in Maine that don’t think so are completely in denial. Though, I am not sure the park is good idea, the fact is, she owns the land and can do what she wants. If you don’t like it, then get a group of people together and buy it from from her. Stop complaining! Our rights in America allow us to buy our land and do want we want with it, within the laws. Those that want to tell her what  she can and can’t do are nothing more than Socialists! But then again, Maine is a blue state, so maybe the government should just take over all the land and make the rules. I assume many in Maine would think that is wonderful, seeing how welfare is Maine’s largest employer! 

  • Anonymous

    What she actually said was  They’ve [the forest industry land owners] all fragmented…sold off rights and easements…just to stay alive. But they still have not accepted that the old paradigm isn’t working. They’re in complete denial…. We have the most aged population in the country…. I believe we have one of the highest adult obesity rates in New England. We have… oxycontin abuse… [and] Maine’s the largest net receiver of Federal funds, even though we supposedly hate the Feds…it’s a welfare state.”

    I dare everyone to read the entire article at http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltobias/2011/10/03/maine-vs-thoreau-the-roxanne-quimby-question/  before you start debating what she did or did not say. We may seem so much less ignorant if we’ve actually read the article we’re discussing first. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JSSXKGI57ZI5GKTLPKZCQK6A4E Dude

    Say what you like about her but there’s nothing in that article I don’t agree with. As far as not being “one of us” I wonder who you mean by “us” ? You surely don’t speak for me. She is acquiring land in Maine so easily, because “Real Mainers” are desperate to sell it. Look at the White Mt forest in NH next door. There are lots of small businesses there because tourists spend their money while visiting there. What would tourists come here for ? To watch the forest being cut down ? And when all those logging barons are cutting the forest down….what are YOU getting out of it ? Seems to me she’s tryin to save Maine alright….just that some folks don’t ever admit they are wrong.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Obviously she considers herself to be Maine’s savior. I think the peons think differently.

  • Anonymous

    Who the **** does she think she is!!!

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    OK, so you are done with Maine …

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

    Sadly, there’s some truth in what she said. We can ignore the facts all we want, but take a good look around. Things are not getting better; they’re getting worse.

    However, Maine is not the largest net receiver of Federal funds. As of 2010, Maine was ranked 13th.

     Some advice to Ms. Quimby: If you try to make bold and broad impact statements to a global publication such as Forbe’s, it is imperative you check and recheck your facts. One misstatement or factual untruth leads to a general dismissal of your entire statement, which is unfortunate because I believe you had some valid points.

  • Anonymous

    MDI is a ghost town 8 months out of the year.

  • Anonymous

    I think she is right and we do need a park.

  • Anonymous

    That is the way to go, Roxanne, insult everyone and that will make them want to do what you want — NOT.  Does this woman drink or something? She is up and down like a yo-yo.  Unfortunately, everything she says is true, however, her plan of a national park is not the solution.  I cannot understand why she doesn’t get that — talk about tone deaf.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Those are two distinct and unique locations. I don’t think Millinocket shares the distinction.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mduren2 Mark Duren

    Rich person with too much money…maybe she should put that money to work and buy some common sense, you don’t dis the customers who made you rich

  • Anonymous

    Ok first of all if you can’t get your facts straight then shut your big pie hole!! Second of all East Millinocket schools wouldn’t be forced to cut 500,000 + from the budget the towns people accepted – IF the selectmen hadn’t gone behind our backs and our votes and stole 500,000+ in executive session!! Thirdly, please do not disgrace the people of East Millinocket by including them in the schemes and scams of Millinocket’s Superintendent. We no longer share a Superintendent and NEVER will again.  Fourth, the State of Florida has the highest per capita of elderly people in this country.  And here before you ask is the proof!  ” Of all the States, Florida had by far the highest proportion elderly, almost 19 percent. Other States with high proportions elderly (14 to 16 percent), ranked in descending order, were Pennsylvania, Iowa, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Arkansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Missouri, Connecticut, Kansas, and Massachusetts. ” and the link  http://www.census.gov/population/www/pop-profile/elderpop.html.  Fifth and final comment – Thank you Nick for having the guts to finally print the true colors of this ___________. 

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    BDN doesn’t employ journalists.

  • Anonymous

    Thats just to funny !! To the people in Maine that support her did you feel like you got kicked in the face?

  • waynorth1

    Lovin your opinion. 

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, can’t ban her, she can buy as much land as she wants, thats the American way! She will keep buying as much as she wants, get over it.  No one will be happy when she limits the use of her land. Just keep adding  fuel to the fire and see where that gets you.

  • Anonymous

    Amen oliver

  • AionNV

    The BDN is reporting what she said.  It isn’t their job to challenge every single story that has contrary or questionable statements, and think about it, would you really want them to ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZNWYFLS7XHSCOPUO6EMTT52PEI OCHO

    A National Park would not support the same amount of workers that lost their jobs when the mills closed or left.  The mills weren’t forced to close because too much wood was harvested.  The mills left because the owners no longer wanted to pay the high wages and compensation to the union workers. 

  • http://twitter.com/katywaitt Katharine Waitt, MSW

    I do not believe publicly commenting that “Maine is a ‘welfare state’” is appropriate especially at this time of economic hardship!  I call for an apology to the hardworking people of Maine!  Yes, we struggle, too.  Just like any state.  People want to work here

  • Anonymous

    Sour grapes.  We’re not devoted to her welfare.

  • Anonymous

    And we can expect your donation of 100,000 acres exactly when??? Real Mainer, hmmph

  • Anonymous

    I am so glad Roxanne knows absolutely nothing about people. Her protocol for winning Mainers to her national park scheme won’t work here. She doesn’t understand that trying to blame, bribe  and intimidate makes enemies.Hope she keeps on making her bizzoro world statements. 

  • Anonymous

    So she buys up lots of Maine land and she can’t make money along with the federal govt. because the feds. are broke.

  • waynorth1

    I agree, too, so male chauvenists stay away from criticism and think about what she’s saying.  Bring the whiners from the Allagash down to help her with the new potential park development…..oh, never mind, they’re too “busy” to drive Monday through Sunday. Surely, the Pelletier loggers would take it on without crying.  I hope that some people open their minds and listen to what she is saying….we have a vast amount of land..let’s open our heads and use it for good things and help each other out. 

  • Anonymous

    Boy, that was a goofy thing for Ms. Quimby to say!  Although I’ve never met her, I respected her to a degree for putting her money where her mouth was.  I’ve lost the respect for her.  She’s just another arrogant “celebrity” that thinks they are so much smarter than the rest of us.

    Just some advice, don’t come to any more meetings in Maine Ms. Quimby, a bunch of us might sit on you.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…Quimby finally outed as a snob.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently she isn’t even familiar with her own property,  ” the fragile East Branch of the Penobscot River”, the only thing that this beautiful  river has had to endure,  was years of log driving in the spring that ended in the 70′s.  She needs to go buy some  property down river of some industrial businesses,  (preferably not in Maine), and save that  fragile river. Why would she want to save a river in Maine that has nothing but old fat welfare residents? Her statement is rude and not true. If she really cares about the property she purchased along the East Branch,  then she should just give it to the state of Maine and let them add it to Baxter State Park.   I wish I was a rich person so I could buy it, I wouldn’t give it to the state but would manage the timber harvesting like I’ve done on my own property and public access would always be permitted especially to ” The Lookout”, one of my favorite places to visit on sleds and I used to be able to drive in the summer and walk the short hike to the “view”.  Go away Roxanne your’re not making any friends and I don’t see that changing.

  • Anonymous

    Gatlinburg TN is a blight. People can have jobs when laws are changed so 

    1)family farms can actually make money…instead of corporations which grow nasty vegetables in Mexico can make a buck. 

    2)Fishing and tourism are helped and not hurt by state and federal laws.

    3)  NAFTA is repealed. Corporations are now paid by taxes to relocate overseas.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is right about one thing, Maine relied on the old-style pulp&paper industry far longer than it should have. The current state of affairs, however, isn’t due to overharvesting but rather to mill owners squeezing every last drop from outdated plants and equipment. When similar companies in far higher cost countries can be operated successfully as a result of timely investments in modern technologies and upgraded machinery it becomes quite obvious what the problem was all along. Meanwhile, labor rather than management was usually made the scape-goat, paying the price for uneconomic operations through lay-offs and pay cuts. When the incomes go away, all else suffers.

  • Anonymous

    The entire country is needing more assistance because our govt. is a sham. Same for elections. After WWII …people got a little help from the govt . so they could actually work. Today, work is discouraged by our laws. The govt. wants a people who can be controlled.

  • Anonymous

    Alot of harsh remarks about Roxanne..but I think its because people just dont like hearing negitive things about the state they live in..It is hard, but until we accept the truth of it, we wont change it and change is needed..we are a welfare state..the numbers dont lie…we have been a democrat state far too long, and im hoping (even tho he has bad bedside mannor) that Lapage will get something done in his term..the last one failed miserably and many others have as well..we have all the issues she talked about..its just that her popularity isnt high, but it doesn’t make it untrue..its a fact!! accept it…change it people…and also..the stupidity about what she does with HER land needs to stop…she bought it!! period!! If any of YOU bought it..you could do with it what YOU wanted..You had the opportunity…so pls…stop telling her what she can and cannot do ..ughhh

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Sambides, thank you for a well written article.

    Simple reporting, no bass nor treble.  These days, that is quite an accomplishment.

    Plus, you get style points for using the word  ”ellipses.”   The Old Dawg himself may have used ellipses, but I don’t think he ever used the word.

  • Anonymous

    MDI is not a town.  It is an island (with 4 towns).

  • Anonymous

    Go Arney Go !  Sorry we didn’t come up with a lip balm concoction in Chemistry Lab back in the 60′s! Maybe it’s not too late for “Spruce Smooch” lip balm and put the sting on Roxanne !

  • Anonymous

    We would have to put the bath salts down first.

    Point well taken.

  • Anonymous

    There’s not, one thing she said that’s not true, of some Mainer’s. Also, I’ve seen the same things, be posted, by a lot of the people that are doing the most complaining.  She’s mad, she has a right to be. She offered us away to help ourselves, and some of us spit in her face.

  • Anonymous

    “Maine’s the largest net receiver of Federal funds, even though we supposedly hate the Feds…it’s a welfare state.”

    According to the Brookings Institute, Maine is number 8. Not great. 

    Maine used to send food by rail to NYC. We were a large producer of potatoes. The US laws stopped that. So , since the problem started on the federal level, maybe it is time to restore our country to workers. NAFTA was a corporatist plan to take food production out of farmer’s hands and into corporations . It did not work. Our food lost it’s taste and nutritional value . Entire towns which depended on farmer’s shut down. 

    Don’t blame the victims for the crimes of the 1% controlling this country. WE are the 99%.

  • Anonymous

    She says that we are receiving too much federal money, and her solution is to turn over northern Maine to the federal government as a national park?

    Another wealthy, elitist  person with her own agenda who can’t figure out why we aren’t worshiping her as a savior.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Exactly. I like the woods more than the ocean but I can’t force that on enough people to make this NP idea pay off.

  • Anonymous

    What are your intentions regarding bringing jobs to the area?

  • Anonymous

    She is about making money. I think there are people who want ME to steal and pillage. guvnah lapage, thanks for all you do.

  • ptkitty

    Please go away, Roxanne…what a snob!  Is there any topic that you are not an expert?

    Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial “we.” Mark Twain 

  • Anonymous

    Land owner?

  • Anonymous

    The rich and powerful in the US  all seem to have two things in common these days. They lack wisdom and common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Desire to work is not the issue.

    Lack of work is the question.

  • Anonymous

    Well,, it is a a welfare state, full of obese people, just take a look at washington County!! As much as I dislike Roxanne Quimby, I have to agree with her on that statement.

  • Anonymous

    I dont care either way but she got it right when she said Maine is a welfare state and if you disagree then you are living in denial. Not that I understand why she would mention that because it has nothing to do with her opening a park or buying land, but I guess if your gonna say something and its the truth we should give credit where it is due LOL i wonder how many ppl on here who argue Maine isnt a welfare state live on it.

  • Anonymous

    Have been told that the real money in a corporation is to build it up and then sell it. Is she trying to do that with ME land?

  • Anonymous

    Did you read the actual Forbes article?

  • Anonymous

    BDN transcribes for govt. and corporations. I just googled it. Brookings Institute says we are # 8. Brookings is conservative, so who knows. Thought the south got all the federal dollars and New England got the least.

  • Anonymous

    BDN used to report the news. If they did today, they would probably get in trouble.

  • Lester C Martin Sr

    Well, Well, now the whole truth has come out we know what Quimby is made up of. I at first thought she was doing good for the Maine people . Resently I found out land she has purchased and plan on purchasing  has asked lease holders on these properties to move on ,tear down their cabins which some have had for more than 50 years and turn in their lease from former land owners.
    This last Statement saying us Mainers are lazy and Fat ! Funny Maine has been called a poor State through her eyes, She is so wrong !
    I think we all should step back and look just to see what her real plans are.will her ideas be good for Maine?

  • Anonymous

    Looks like Queen B added her own fuel to the fire.

    Hopefully this will set back her strategic plan years if not decades.

    I’m glad she spoke her mind. 

    BAN ROXANNE!!!

  • Anonymous

    It’s all well and good to be angry with Ms. Quimby, but look around folks. She speaks harshly, but she speaks much truth. We are an economically poor state with a small, poorly educated population. Most of our young people who manage to get an education beyond H.S. must leave Maine to find a job. If you are able to get beyond your anger you’ll see the truth. The question is: How do we change those facts? 

  • Anonymous

    Alright I read the article and I have to say I don’t know why people are surprised that she doesn’t care about Maine citizens. This is a woman whose dream was to move somewhere where she would never be around people. I think she genuinely doesn’t have the social skills to treat people with respect. I mean, if I were worth “a few hundred million dollars, give or take” and I was trashing a school about not having enough money I could find it in my heart to donate to the school. Also if I disagreed with how someone was making their money why not give them another opportunity? Invest in some local businesses or something like that. Maybe that’s why I’ll never be a millionaire. I agree if she bought it she can do what she want’s with it. When you bite someone though, after awhile they will treat you like a dog.

  • Anonymous

    Nonsense.

    I believe that BDN writers are just like sled dogs staked down before the race.

    They are in fact journalists, writers, photographers and reporters.

    They function within the constraints of an early 21st century U.S. for-profit news medium.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently most of you missed my earlier comment.    If she really cares about this land she would just give it to the state of Maine and let them add it to Baxter State Park. Done

  • Anonymous

    Take away the ocean and what do you have?

  • Anonymous

    If Maine takes more in from the feds, then it sends to the feds, then it is  net beneficiary. Calling the state a welfare state for this may have too harsh a connotation, but I believe she is on to something. There are many folks who game the system, working off the books or seasonally and getting welfare, subsidized housing, food stamps, etc. Then there are others who are down on their luck. Then there are those who got sucked into the welfare game and find it too hard to break out with no real incentive. Then their are myriad corporations who get welfare in kind. I think we’d all be far better off if welfare was reserved for just cases of extreme need.

    I love her idea of a park. Our forest, which we take for granted is relatively uncommon.

    Just take a look at the following world map published in the NY Times last week:
    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/10/01/science/earth/forests.html?ref=earth

  • Anonymous

    I think she was referring to in relation to our population we are the biggest consumers of federal funds. I really have no idea except I heard once that Alaska was the biggest user of federal cash per capita. Still being in the top 15 isn’t something us Mainers should be proud of.

  • Anonymous

    As much as I despise this woman, she has a few valid points…

  • Anonymous

    If RQ is so concerned about sustaining and preserving Maine, why did she move her multi-million dollar company out of Maine?

  • Anonymous

    (Shaking my head) Roxanne…Roxanne…Roxanne…

  • Anonymous

    Quimby isn’t going to push her agenda by insulting the very people she must win over. She may be a land baron, but a public relations person she ain’t.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not particularly pro or anti-park, but this statement that parks “don’t make money” or aren’t economic assets for their regions is ridiculous.  

  • Anonymous

    Wow.  What a way to make friends.  Those out-a-staters and their hoojabadoo way of thinking.  I’ll never understand it.   Just get frustrated with us already and go home, wouldya?

  • Anonymous

    To quote Ms Quimby, “prosperity begins with small businesses, with committed, passionate people and communities and families that care about each other.”  Then we give them all the shaft and move out of state.

    As for the welfare state business, Maine doesn’t even rate in the top ten in the amount of Federal expenditures per person.  The top three, not counting Washington DC are, Alaska, Virginia and Maryland.  As for Va and Md, they’ve been sucking the Federal government dry since the revolution.

    P.S.  Ms Quimby doesn’t exactly look like Twiggy to me.

  • Anonymous

    Why would anyone think that a national park would be a ‘boon’ to the economy?  Only someone very much out of touch with most of ‘normal’ society would think this would bring very much money to the area.  What a joke. 

    Hey…let’s take all the old abandoned railroad track systems we have in the state and convert them to walking trails.  What a driving economic force that would be(right Belfast?)…another group with hoojabadoo thinking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    well i disagree with her motivation on what she said but she is right there are alot of fat people in this state and older people . i am FAT but i am paying the price for being FAT high blood pressure congestive heart failure i am trying to reverse my condition. i have to admit it isnt easy. being fat brings health hazards they usuallly dont catch up with you until you are older. she was right in saying that but it was her motivation that was wrong . by the way i also have diabetess type two. i want to reverse what is wrong with me i want to survive it . i want my active life back 

  • Anonymous

    I think our real Governor would agree with Ms. Quimby on this topic. We need to work and strive  for better economic conditions here and not be so thin skinned. The truth can and does hurt. The words of Governor Lepage sums it up quite nicely, “get over yourselves!”

  • Anonymous

    I remember good old fat, on welfare Roxanne when she lived with Burt in the Guilford area. Lived in a shack with no running water. She picked old Burts mind clean to start her business then moved on. The “new money” has gone to the old gals head.

  • Anonymous

    The same posters who always decry the “welfare state” and put people down (people they do not know), are the same ones who are criticizing Quimby for basically saying the same thing.   Go figure….. (kind of hypocritical of them….)

  • Anonymous

    Oh wow. Just read your post after posting my comment. I read them from the top.  You had said almost the very same thing.  Yes, and it is transparent to read some of the comments.  So contradictory!

  • Anonymous

    Very good point!

  • Anonymous

    Yuppers…real thoughts and feelings come out now as the frustration level rises.  Way to sink yourself even lower in the opinions of a lot of NATIVE Mainers.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say that parks don’t make money or aren’t economic assets.

    The US sells drilling / mineral rights to federal land now because as a govt. , it is beyond broke. Just would hate to see the land carved up to make the GOVT. a dollar. Big difference.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get what’s wrong with someone doing something good.  I also don’t get the ingratitude and even downright hatred expressed toward someone who wants to preserve our good land. 

    Why do you hate her.  Disagree if you wish; it’s a constitutional right.  But can one not disagree respectfully? 

  • Anonymous

    Maine is actually low on the obesity list, old people are a product of young people leaving in droves.

  • Anonymous

    Nevertheless she is correct Maine is a welfare state. She had enough getup and go to improve herself, unlike the majority of Mainers that would rather complain than do something about it.

  • Anonymous

    In a hundred more years we’ll all be dead and our children and grandchildren can carry on the cause.

  • Anonymous

    landscraper are you a little touched? Have you never heard of Arcadia National Park? Maybe you think Mount Desert Island is the low rent district. Daaaa.

  • Anonymous

    How can anyone argue she is wrong?  Heck most of you would agree if it wasnt’ her saying it.  If Lepage said that you would agree 100%.  Sorry, but as a moderate Republican it’s hard to disagree with what she is saying.

  • Anonymous

    Why she was a 100% right?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6U6XZXPPOEAF2LSUTQ3K4IGIOQ Mike

    As a former paper employee, and a former woodsman, I would have to argue. The demise of the paper industry comes from 3 sources. 1. chinese paper and canadien paper that flooded the market because of NAFTA. 2. The fact that the paper mills in the U.S. are REQUIRED to use 30% recycled materials in their paper.(remember when a paper bag held like 40 lbs. and today can’t even put 10 lbs of stuff in it?) I wouldn’t want to buy recycled as a business when China and Canada are not required to recycle. 3. Companies like Bowater, and Georgia Pacific, who came in and clear cutted like there was no tomorrow, and selling the lumber, then deserting the workers in Maine…… OK, I’ll stop preaching, but from where I stand, that’s what happened in a nutshell.

  • Anonymous

    She can afford to eat well.

  • Anonymous

    Ban Roxanne!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Apparently she isn’t even familiar with her own property,  ” the fragile East Branch of the Penobscot River”, the only thing that this beautiful  river has had to endure,  was years of log driving in the spring that ended in the 70′s.  She needs to go buy some  property down river of some industrial businesses,  (preferably not in Maine), and save that  fragile river. Why would she want to save a river in Maine that has nothing but old fat welfare residents? Her statement is rude and not true. If she really cares about the property she purchased along the East Branch,  then she should just give it to the state of Maine and let them add it to Baxter State Park.   I wish I was a rich person so I could buy it, I wouldn’t give it to the state but would manage the timber harvesting like I’ve done on my own property and public access would always be permitted especially to ” The Lookout”, one of my favorite places to visit on sleds and I used to be able to drive in the summer and walk the short hike to the “view”.  Go away Roxanne your’re not making any friends and I don’t see that changing.

  • Anonymous

    Well I hope this post is not to long.I can only relate my personal experience with Ms Quimby and Mr Burt Shavitz firsthand. When i had a business and was doing craft shows there was one in Deerfield Ma that Burt had done for a few years along with us. Our tables were very close,we could cover one another when one had to use the restroom.One year I saw Roxanne on the street side dressed in army greens selling candles.  What? What was going on? It was known in Guilford she and Burt were a couple. I will go onwith my experiences and the town of guilford and the people if there is interest on your part. There is much history and it can’t br denied.I have firsthand experience

  • Anonymous

    The people who compile the list have never been to walmart at the first of the month, have they?

  • Anonymous

    agreed

  • Anonymous

    I agree

  • Anonymous

    Roxy sez:  “I AM your Saviorrrrrrrrrr!”

  • Anonymous

    Careful there TP,AT.  Roxanne is a powerful force to reckon with.  Get her P..Off she just might sell the holdings to China!  Get a grip on yourself…Telling it like it is…Well it’s the Maine Way!  Thats how whats his face got elected.  Better send Roxanne best wishes.  They way I see it she is now in charge and better have good ole” Roxy than the Iriving family.

    Thanks Rox
    Buy you dinner anytime!

  • Anonymous

    Brookings is conservative???  What have you been smoking???  Or maybe you think anything to the right of The Nation, or maybe The Daily Worker is conservative.

    The Brookings Institution has been around for decades, and is well known as a main-stream, liberal think tank.  My father was invited to join them in about 1972, but decided not to.

  • Anonymous

    And if she get’s her way with the park, she will only add more welfare. I don’t think she is half as smart as she thinks she is.

  • Anonymous

    When a Republican calls Maine a welfare state, he’s got guts, when Roxanne does it, it’s a whole other story. Typical hypocrisy. 

  • Anonymous

    And we can expect your donation of 100,000 acres exactly when??? Real Mainer, hmmph
    *******************************************************************
    Roxy really isn’t “donating” 100,000 acres to the “people of Maine”.  If you believe that, you really ARE Duhbya.

  • 525_44

    Roxanne! You attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

    Why does someone who is not and will never be a ‘we’ using it to describe herself.
    I find this ‘interview’ to be arrogant and haughty along with a little bit of disgust and her obvious distaste for Maine people.

    The facts about obesity and are aged population is known, this woman couldn’t have come off more condescending and high brow if she tried!  I wouldn’t be surprised if she left the interview stomping her feet.

    Kind of sounds like a child who is not getting her way and her credibility as being sincere just took a giant hit.

  • Anonymous

    you will be old someday miss Queenie by the looks of you will not be long

  • Anonymous

    With any luck she will have spent her fortune and will have to live off welfare where ever she came from. Karma

  • Anonymous

    The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

  • 525_44

    Yup. Sounds like a kid that isn’t getting her way.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you as far as the facts, but I can tell you that Roxanne Quimby is not the answer to any of our challeges here in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Confirmation bias just means that you are part of the problem, not the solution

  • Anonymous

    26.6 % of Mainer’s are obese.  That’s more than one out of every four.  Isn’t it annoying when facts interfere with your argument?

    http://chartsbin.com/view/562

  • 525_44

    and go all the way home…

  • Anonymous

    well then why is she paying taxes in this state and the last thing we want now is aPARK!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Oh, deah.  Door’s over theah, honey.

  • Anonymous

    About as much as math interferes with yours I guess

  • Anonymous

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States says we are ranked 34 out of 50, pretty low on the list

  • Anonymous

    What an insulting person. As if her loopy national park idea isn’t enough.

  • Anonymous

    How about the Governor and Quimby crack down of the Business that hire so called sub-contractor to work of them but in reality they are employees. But people are in such need of jobs that they are scared to say anything. I know first had as my son is a victim of this and is scared to do anything about it because he has student loans to pay and in need of a job. This company is huge hear in maine and will get away with in anyways. So call Maine a welfare state is because Maine needs to crack down on Business that take advanaged of the unemployed for there pockets and reward the business that do the right thing. I am so up set by this but my son doesn’t want me to get involed because he has nothing else yet. So before you opening your mouth and call Maine a walfare state find out why and do something about it. That’s why you see people roiting on wall street because of Corp. Greed and bailouts have made the US and this ecomony what it is today. Why would Maine be any different. If anything we are gulity of fear and let the Corp. Greed take advantage of us.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunate we can not we age unlike her, since she has been at this; what is it now about 20 years? SO her true colors come out again and call everyone names. “allow nature to take its course/” well then Roxanne LEAVE US ALONE ! I would say after all these years that Quimby is the one that is tone deaf. This seems to me just a set up for the meeting in East Millinocket, so she can fool them like she has Medway and other groups. Now she is the one attempting to call the shots, and we see some are falling into her trance.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget where you come from Ms. Quimby, and don’t forget those that fed you and your child in your time of need.
    I respect the fact that you did not use your families money to achieve what you have today, but always remember YOU DID NOT DO IT ALONE.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe that is why she moved her business when she owned it?

  • Anonymous

    Bangor Daily News  July 10 2001  In fact, she said, ‘very few people derive a living from the woods. She says most people do as she did before she became a wealthy businesswoman: They cut some wood, farm some vegetables, make some crafts to sell at fairs’.

    Not much has changed in 10 years has it.

  • Randy Albert

    I hope readers actually recognize how much this article is taken out of context… What she actually said was in quotes – unfortunately, the truth hurts. Roxanne Quimby is a business woman and we need more people like her in this State.

  • Anonymous

    I guess the truth hurts

  • Anonymous

    Oh, its not oxycontin, its BATH SALTS! Forgot.

  • Anonymous

    I think she got that right on!  We are a Welfare State..too easy to get!….. forest products industry model that hasn’t worked in years.  True! 

  • Anonymous

    Or the cause.

  • Anonymous

    Rhetoric applied to her reminds me of what I have been hearing from the liberals in Maine and D.C.
    She has acquired more than she should have been allowed to, but who was in power when she was able to?

  • Anonymous

    I think the welfare comment was related to the amount of federal tax dollars Maine receives, not related to its citizens.

  • Anonymous

     ”where I started Burt’s Bees, and I had up to about forty-five women and we got the business up to about $3 million in sales. It was like a sheer miracle.”
    SHE had about 45 women….SHE is a very wealthy woman…what ever became of the 45 women?

  • Anonymous

    Sticks and stones, Roxy.  You get nasty when people don’t agree with you.  I don’t really care what you do with your land.  It is your land.  But, you’re not making and friends talking like that.  Maybe is was taken somewhat out of context, but it can’t all be wiped away claiming that.  Who gained by these remarks?  The people of Maine and even Old Roxy can’t claim it made things better.  

  • Anonymous

    I love Acadia and I would love a to see a North Woods National Park. Yes, Baxter is wonderful and I love spending time there, too. But a National Park would bring even more of those welfare federal dollars into the state.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like Roxie is going all tea party on us doesn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    And did she fail to mention that when the taxes on her business became too high she pulled out and moved it to N.C…..so hold on N.C. because you will be next……and yes we do have problems here, but I am not understanding the problem with the elderly…or is this big time liberal wanting to dispose of
    the old people…….because they are the ones who built this country…..get a life and get out of ours.

  • Anonymous

    MDI gets quite an influx of money from Acadia. When I have disposable income that is where I like to spend it. If the people in the area are smart and keep the corporations out (like Belfast did with Walmart) then local small businesses can grow up around the park, which is what I think she said.

  • Anonymous

    So you are saying the businesses close up and the owners take a vacation? Now that is what I call a profitable business.

  • Anonymous

       It’s no wonder that Roxanne is calling Maine a welfare state. She has worked very hard to make it one first by taking a Maine born company and moving it and all the jobs out of state then coming back with all of her new found wealth Bert so happily had bequeathed her with to buy up working forest land and denying their use and destroying not only the associated forest industry jobs of which there are still many Mainers employed in this industry despite blood sucking “out of staters” like Roxanne who are taking Maine jobs with them once they’ve abused and made their riches on Mainer’s backs.
        She also has worked very hard to destroy the hunting, fishing, four wheeling, snowmobiling, guiding and sporting camp industry which brings adds billions to Maine’s economy as well as removing Mainer’s from their camps which have been in their families for generations. Yes, Roxanne is doing her part to make Maine a welfare state and if she has her way most Mainer’s will have no place to recreate or work and as she so nicely pointed out will grow fatter as we sit around with nothing to do.  Well I guess if I have a choice I’ll choose being fat over being a selfish, rich, aloof, heartless, hater of Maine residents like you are my dear…At least I can diet but as we all know there’s no cure for being heartless!

  • Anonymous

    tell us the rest of the story

  • Anonymous

    I am a Mainer and I hate to agree with this woman.  But everytime something new comes to this state we immediately reject it.  No LNG, no windpower, no dam’s, no nuclear, no new park!  It is time for new thinking,  new innovations, and sometimes the truth hurts and cuts like a knife.  We NEED to become a PRODUCER state not a CONSUMER state.  If this woman may help develop jobs and our economy let her.  Sometimes jealousy of someone else’s accomplishments, when expressed, is very ugly.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, who hasn’t heard of ARCADIA PARK ??

  • Anonymous

    It’s no wonder that Roxanne is calling Maine a welfare state. She has worked very hard to make it one first by taking a Maine born company and moving it and all the jobs out of state then coming back with all of her new found wealth Bert so happily had bequeathed her with to buy up working forest land and denying their use and destroying not only the associated forest industry jobs of which there are still many Mainers employed in this industry despite blood sucking “out of staters” like Roxanne who are taking Maine jobs with them once they’ve abused and made their riches on Mainer’s backs. She also has worked very hard to destroy the hunting, fishing, four wheeling, snowmobiling, guiding and sporting camp industry which brings adds billions to Maine’s economy as well as removing Mainer’s from their camps which have been in their families for generations. Yes, Roxanne is doing her part to make Maine a welfare state and if she has her way most Mainer’s will have no place to recreate or work and as she so nicely pointed out will grow fatter as we sit around with nothing to do. Well I guess if I have a choice I’ll choose being fat over being a selfish, rich, aloof, heartless, hater of Maine residents like you are my dear…At least I can diet but as we all know there’s no cure for being heartless!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DK2NSO2GYJSIRQOPYAXLKVEIA4 James

    Local control dies hard, even in the face of economic disaster. 

  • Anonymous

    A national park won’t turn Millinocket into Beverly “Mills”. however it won’t hurt the place one bit.

    ralph nader wrote a book about Maine many years ago called The Paper Plantation.

    Go on and read it, those days will never ever ever come back to this state

    Smarten up and do something different.

    and for all those upset with her comment, get over yourselves.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    I’m not sure what obesity has to do with the rest of your point, Roxanne; seems to me like you just couldn’t resist throwing in a cheap shot while you had the floor.  Bad form.

  • Anonymous

    I was referring to Naran’s comment above, not yours.  

  • Anonymous

    Well said. 

    When many people “from away” came to Maine with the idea of living off the land & the harsh realities set in, they quickly fell back on the generosity of their Maine neighbors(even if the neighbors were obese or elderly).  They also were glad that Maine had such an easily accessible welfare system. 

    Funny how quickly all this is forgotten…

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne Quimby calls Maine ‘a welfare state’

    How very conservative of her. 

    How can the right with wing tax grumps and the GOTe Party extremists disagree with her saying exactly what they do ?

  • Anonymous

    My Gosh… someone tell’s the truth about our state and people gripe.  Who really cares if she isn’t a “real” Maine.  At least she’s being proactive.   You go Roxie!!!!  I can’t stand ya.  Got a lotta love and respect for you though.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DSXINLGWUB5MAA5AEHVTTHXXEE Stephanie

    Ms Quimby you screwed over Guilford once you found success you took your Business & moved it elsewhere living those people with out jobs.  Ask her what she did with the Edes Building it was condemned & left to rot.  BTW I can think of 3 mills in the Dover F without even batting an eye

  • Anonymous

    It’s probably safe to say that the wealth didn’t get spread around.

  • Anonymous

    I know its mean but —- I hope she dose not get lost in the woods some day out enjoying her land,only to find out how many “welfare” residents come out to locate her. I am guessing it would not be many.

  • Anonymous

    sorry to learn you are old, poor, and fat……….. :  (

  • Anonymous

    Well……at least she din’t call us inbreds, but I’ll bet she was thinking it.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Anonymous

    You got that one right!!

  • Anonymous

    WHAT are you even referring to?

  • Anonymous

    Is that how you deal with people who you disagree with?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    So if she think’s she can “Tell it like it is” expect some of the same!

    I think you should try useing some of your Burts Bees Facial Cream!

  • Anonymous

    Actually if you look at corn subsidies to the tune of tens of billions over the last decade, , Texas and Iowa are the true welfare states

  • Anonymous

    She also has worked very hard to destroy the hunting, fishing, four wheeling, snowmobiling, guiding and sporting camp industry which brings adds billions….BILLIONS?? Are you sure about that?

  • Anonymous

    the same thing is happening to our commericail fishermen who want to make a living,these silver spoon brat’s give their money and resources to saving whales to snails you name it thier saving it. Buying up the shore front and making triditonal access a thing of the past,from clam diggers to snowmobiler’s trapper’s wood cutters and so on. so if she thinks were a welfare state maybe she should join the working class in maine instead of bad mouthing us, I wonder how much stock she has in the makers of oxcycottin? or is it old money from slaves booze or politics,yes were all dumb,backward,fat and druged up so whats is her excuse ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Will  it all to Chipmunks !

    The State and the Feds don’t want it!

    We will deal with the next owner when he comes!

  • Anonymous

    they are probably the obese welfare recipients…

  • Anonymous

    I have always sided with Quimby on her park. I however, being someone who was born and brought up in downeast Maine, quite resent the fact that she calls us obese drug users on welfare. Be careful Roxanne. You may very well lose the support you have in this State.

  • Anonymous

    Are you disagreeing with me?LOL
    No, this treatment is saved for out of staters yuppies that think they know what is best for Maine.

  • Anonymous

    They were left jobless when the taxes in Guilford forced her to move to North Carolina.  Upping the unemployment in Maine by 45. Upping the welfare sucks by 45. Yes she made Maine a welfare state in Guilford!!!

  • Anonymous

    I did not say she was the cause. I do not agree with her philosophies and ideas, but do agree that she has the right to purchase land and do what she sees fit with it. I just don’t think her vision for a National park will solve the financial woes of our state.

  • Anonymous

    READ UP P_Dizzle she came here lived in a chicken coop in Guilford and sucked off the town, the State and the Feds as well as her neighbors! She just has dementia and can’t remember those days!!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry Bruce not all of us in East Mill drink the Medway kool aid!!

  • Anonymous

    She’s not paying her taxes that is the point.  She’s got tree growth rates on her land. Which is supposed to be a tax break for those that are growing trees to harvest, create jobs, and thereby help the State. If she is allowed to give it to the Feds. There will no taxes rec’d by the State of Maine for 70,000 acres of land.

  • Anonymous

    I’m thinking a 5 gallon bucket of crisco bought with foodstamps… as a present!

  • Anonymous

    And my Bible says ” You shall have no God before me” So Quimby get lost!!

  • Anonymous

    and the Mainer’s reply AMEN!

  • Anonymous

    Mike not only is everything you say correct. But the East Millinocket mill will NOT be starting up recycle. Do you know why? Because all the orders they have are for Europe and they  don’t want any paper with recycle in it!!

  • Anonymous

    First of all she wasn’t respectful. Never has been never will be. Second of all we are not the eldest state in the Union. Nor do we receive the most ” welfare” . Every thing that she said except for of course the comic relief of Millinocket is basically either a lie or an exaggeration.

  • Anonymous

    Some people have more money than brains. 

  • Anonymous

    She is gaming the system right now only paying tree growth tax on 70,000 acres!! WAKE UP!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BE5K4BY6CK2TFMMTWIM5B22ZOE David

    Way to put your foot in your mouth, Roxie. If she has a PR person, (s)he should find a new line of work, and his/her replacement has their work cut for them. 

  • Anonymous

    I really don’t think that she wants to preserve the state to be much more than a rich persons playground, with enough of a population to work the catering to the wants and needs aspects of it.  But I’ve had that thought of a few people that enter the state with grandiose ideas.

  • Anonymous

    Please continue, I’d love to read it.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby we don’t want your park. You bought your land if you can’t do what you want on it then sell it to someone who will benefit the State of Maine and it’s citizens with the Land.  Quimby we don’t want and have repeatedly voted down same sex marriage.  You hate Mainers’. Especially those in Millinocket and East Millinocket. So, obviously you don’t want to build yourself a little hut and live in your woods.  Where you’d have to buy your groceries, register your vehicles, etc. in those towns.  So why exactly is it that you bought the land here in the first place?  At least we don’t survive on bee puke! GO HOME and I don’t mean Guilford!!

  • Anonymous

    One spot(and as snpsnp has stated; Acadia) with so many attractive natural features. 

    Think about it Mainely_Maine: She’s proposing what, where now?

    I can think of very few states that don’t already have land just like that she has purchased.

  • Anonymous

    her statements are not even close to tea party statements…

  • Anonymous

    Yes we need more business people who think lowly of their employees and the communities in which they operate.  Oh wait, she moved the company out of Maine didn’t she.

    Kind of reminds me of the business owner down in Camden a few years back(Cappys), who was quoted in the paper as saying that they were scraping the bottom of the employment barrel.  That statement was in quotes as well.

  • me in me

    don’t include yourself when talking about the state of Maine. You are not one of “We”

  • Anonymous

    and they work another job during that 8 months…. not a profitable business at all

  • Anonymous

    “BAN ROXANNE!!!”

    Now there’s a bumper sticker I’d consider putting on my vehicle.

  • http://twitter.com/joncob Jon Coburn

    see you next tuesday

  • Anonymous

    What an ignorant low class statement..You know what Ms? Quimby If you are so concerned with the areas schools how do you think your Quimby Land  park is going to help?  If this park that is nothing more than a tribute to your massive ego goes through. They lose all tax revenue that do contribute to the school budgets. When are you going to understand that folks in Northern Maine don’t want your park nor the menial,  minimum wage,  jobs? this park may or may not bring. If your so concerned about the local school why don’t you take some of  your money  and help them out. 

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    I trust that everyone that has posted a comment here clicked through and read the entire interview in Forbes. Quimby can be her own worst enemy to be sure, but it helps to know the full context of her statements.

  • Anonymous

    She DOES despise the working people of northern Maine. The only folks she likes is her liberal buddies, This is “rural cleansing”, an attempt to remove what she thinks is a sub par group of people from their homeland.

  • yowsayowsa1

    NOT with a national park.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby never sat right with me anyway. I couldn’t put my finger on the exact reason before. I have it all sorted out now.

  • yowsayowsa1

    (HUH?)

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    Quimby actually said:

    “I believe we have one of the highest adult obesity rates in New England.”

    The truth is that Maine has the highest obesity rate in New England, ranking 29th most fat in 2010. Connecticut was 49th, Mass 48th, Vermont 46th, Rhode Island 45th, and New Hampshire 35th.

    http://healthyamericans.org/reports/obesity2010/release.php?stateid=ME

  • yowsayowsa1

    (OH WOW!)

  • Anonymous

    She is absolutely right!!!!

  • Anonymous

    In East Millinocket Georgia Pacific designed the recycled fiber facility and Bowater installed it.   The recycled blend the plant was generating  was on a strength ratio that was almost the the equal of adding craft to the furnish.   The Katahdin area mills did not ever manufacture paper bags.   GP and Bowater did the clearcutting on their own land.   GNN did it before them.  These large paper companies also replanted their cuts.   Pulp contractors do much more damage as they just take the trees and don’t replant..

  • Anonymous

    I have no issue with her buying whatever she likes. But taking it off the tax rolls will further cripple the region.

    We can hope that one day, we will have a group of leaders in this country who realize that national parks are not legal, though from the looks of the Presidents the American public seems to like to elect, that’s rather doubtful.

  • Anonymous

    As to her “obesity” allegation: Ms. Quimby, the obese can diet and become un-obese.

    But you, madam, can clearly never be anything but homely. Here you are, a beauty products mogul, and THIS is the best you can do with that face?

  • yowsayowsa1

    Ya.

     Tell us about the freaky parties.

  • Anonymous

    Just where are you getting your facts from?   The European market requires more recycle than the U.S.    It’s the Asian market that requires no recycled content.   The paper that the East Mill is contracted to produce is for the China market.

  • Anonymous

    Obesity aside, we are in fact primarily a welfare state.  Pride in our beautiful state is fine, but let’s get our heads out of the sand.  We’re in a downward spiral and the tax burden is very large in a great part due to our “social services”.  No jobs stinks.   Most of us vote yes for every bond issue presented every time.  As someone else said,  it always goes NO! to new industry ideas, casino’s for the Native Americans in Washington County (but a go for it vote in Bangor and southern Maine), and any other plan that might help pull us out of our own tail spin.  I’m not sold on a giant park being the answer, but we are most surely showing the symptoms she points out in most cases.  Denial is not the answer.

  • Anonymous

    Why would she say these things? It is as if she is deliberately trying to alienate herself (if possible) even further from the average Mainer. Could it be she is getting frustrated that many of the ignorant  locals havn’t seen the wisdom of her utopian plan to save them? If she can’t have her park, her legacy; she will just chalk it up to us being too fat, lazy, and high on oxycontin to know what is best for us rather than to it being a pretty unrealistic and just plain bad idea. 

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    I’m not opposed to a park.  I understand why some people are, though.  I just think her comments are going to make a lot of enemies who probably otherwise would not care one way or the other regarding her park idea.

  • Anonymous

    Gee, I hope she doesn’t plan on turning it over to the federal government anytime in the near future.  The last I remember, they were having enough trouble keeping the ones that they have, open for visitors.  Did the feds find some money somewhere and bolster the whole National Park System without telling anyone?

  • Anonymous

    Exactly.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly.

  • Anonymous

    bingo…… she may have finally “jumped the shark” with this.

  • Anonymous

    She’s mad that us fat poor welfare bums wont  let barry  buy her price inflated land bordering Gov Baxter’s gift

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone remember the ad campaign….Maine has a weight problem? The only thing that has changed is that other states are catching up…

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking….you see worse comments about Maine that hers right here on the BDN discussion site…..lol

  • yowsayowsa1

     Just another “implant” moved up here to save us from our stupid selves.

     NO PARK FOR Me.

  • yowsayowsa1

     I wanna know about the freaky parties.

  • yowsayowsa1

    And the drugs.

  • Anonymous

    I actually did read the article and interview by forbes.  I found it interesting that she mentions virgin timber in Maine that was cut by the most recent owners.  I wasn’t aware that there was such timber in Maine anymore, I was under the impression that no one living has seen a white pine 10-12 feet in circumference in Maine since the 1700′s- early 1800′s.  I also found it humorous that she was worried about getting to the top of katahdin, there’s practically a beaten path up there.  But all in all it certainly didn’t change my opinion of her after the whole snowmobile incident of hers.

  • Anonymous

    Since my comment was flagged inappropriately, I’m posting it again:

    Ms. Quimby didn’t say anything that is not true – Maine is poor, old
    and fat.  Just because we don’t like hearing the truth, doesn’t mean
    that it’s not true. 

    BDN – if you are going to censor this
    posting because some people don’t like it, and not because it is
    inappropriate, then you may as well shut down these comment boards.

  • Anonymous

    She is right!!!

  • Anonymous

    Maine has everything we need right here. Good people, natural resources, good common sense and skills. It’s time we all come home physically, emotionally, and spiritually to re-group and restore our state. Enough of this bickering and downing ourselves when we know that we were great before we allowed the  mismanagement of funds, blatant fraud, and unrepentant theft from the people.  Maine will be great again.

  • Anonymous

    I thought the same thing. The labored probably got minimum wage and then the boot out the door. Meanwhile their work gave RQ millions and she high-tailed it out of state to make even more money. If she is so benevolent, then she should have shared her millions. Instead she insults those whose labor made her a rich woman.

  • Anonymous

    Naran just likes to see her words in print….no one really listens…..8)

  • Anonymous

    Who really cares if the state is considered obese, I’m not perfectly fit and am not fat by no means, but I am happy with myself.  Most people don’t need someone telling them that they are overweight they know that on their own, and if they want to change that then they are more than capable of doing that themselves.

  • Anonymous

    It’s actually millions.

  • Anonymous

    We don’t need business leaders that move operations to another state, and leaving the people she had working for her behind.

  • Millicent

    good lord, I’m agreeing with Bangorian ….. ;) 

    I think she stated the truth about this state. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    I know Roxanne,  waaay back when when she was with Burt Shavitts, from Parkman Maine.   Roxanne, (and Burt) have been and always will be environmentalist.   Having said that, Roxanne isn’t from Maine, and neither is Burt.  (aka..Burt’s Bee’s), they both tend to deem the locals as inferiors, but in their defense, they both love people and nature.   Roxanne is and always has been a little over the top, I”m not saying what she proposes is a bad idea……but I don’t think she can just buy the land up and say “this is what it’s gonna be” because you people are too naive to figure it out.

  • Anonymous

    ya-ll are just a bunch of welfare rejects, do the right thing and give the state back to Canada..your money is worth about the same…

  • Anonymous

    Then why don’t they???

  • Anonymous

    If Quimby doesn’t appreciate Maine and its people,why buy land here? Why doesn’t she move on?
    And what ever happened to respect your elders? Your read it in the news and see it on t.v. all the time about bullying….why are you treating others with disrespect,calling them old and/or fat….

  • Anonymous

    Are you saying that what she said was false???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    And….I bet you have a “ban Roxanne” sticker?……..I’m not saying that she’s right, but I’m not gonna come to the conclusion that she is absolutley wrong either.  There is a middle road, a fact is a fact, … she owns the land, get over it.   It’s much like comprehensive planning back in the day when town folk said “you can’t tell me what to do with my land”,  but dammit don’t allow that pig farmer to live next to me?…..    It’s her land, if she wants to do certain things with it, well …..look for the middle ground, not just your own way.    JEEZ

  • Anonymous

    Do you know what type of society tells it’s people how they should live, eat, wear, drive, live and earn??? Also Why do some people want to control what others do and how they live???  Who do you want to be in charge of you’re life, or do you want to be the boss of others lifestyles… What would be the title of the person in charge of you’re life…  

  • Anonymous

    Just a few questions for Quimby…
    Why do you want to buy land in Maine if you can’t stand your neighbors? Why don’t you move along?
    And what about bullying….you read it and see it everyday how someone is being affected by bullying? What are you doing,by calling Mainers old and fat?…And my final quetion to you is?
    What ever happened to RESPECT your elders?

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you MaineJeff, You, Roxanne and myself are the only smart people in the whole State.. When everything is said and done I will authorize you to check every lifestyle in Maine and to check for lightbulbs/electral use.. etc…

  • Anonymous

    There is not a Mill in the State setup to cut virgin timber that big,, They just cut it for the fun of it I guess…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    how can these post’s be on top when they are 7 hours old?……..seems to be a little something going on.   Talk about tone deaf???!!!

  • Anonymous

    I know someone else who shoots his mouth off when he doesn’t get his way… Some people like Playing God… Yet I never saw that job openning posted….

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    Bangorian you and I butt heads a lot but I agree with you. She is speaking the truth about Maine.

    As for the comments it only takes a certain amount of people to flag a comment before it gets removed. It happens to me often as well because people do not want to read the truth.

    They just want to stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and say…. blah, blah, blah, blah blah.. I don’t hear you, I can’t see you and I won’t read the truth.

  • Anonymous

    “Corp. Greed”?

    Not exactly, it’s more like crony capitalism via the progressive approach to government,  employing Keynesian monetary policy and a central bank that piles mountains of debt on the shoulder of our posterity.

  • Anonymous

    Gee Roxie….just because you can stand in a garage…doesn’t make you a car……sweetie you’re from  mASSachusetts…..granted Maine used to be part of Massachusetts but not since 1820….If “we” (that would be all the native Mainer’s who were born here) are so old and fat and such addicts and welfare losers…..why don’t “you” GO AWAY and leave “us” to “our” own miserable existence…..buy some land in some other state that’s as crappy as this state apparently is ……not much on public relations are ya sweetie?   Wicked good luck with that pahk thingy deyah.

  • Anonymous

    click on the sort bar on top of the comments to change that for your taste

  • Anonymous

    Maybe she can put some of the people she screwed in Guilford to work cleaning Porta Potties in her park . 

  • Anonymous

    My mom lived near him about 30 years ago.  She said it was actually a pig sty. 

  • Anonymous

    ” I call for an apology to the hardworking people of Maine!”
    Agreed!

  • Anonymous

    Wow, I think Roxy just slammed the door on any compromise on anything she proposes from the beginning of time to the end of time where the Maine people are concerned, and if this is her view, so be it.

  • Anonymous

    I think Quimby added the fuel

  • Anonymous

    The people of Maine just might be able to make some money on Bumper Stickers~ Ban Roxanne~ Just say No to Roxanne~ hmmm…

  • Anonymous

    sem did not say she was . . .

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to know where those stats come from.  Likely skewed.  Anyone who has taken a stats course knows how this ‘information’ can be used to say whatever the hell you want.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    has anyone ever thought about…..well tourism, which is or is becoming Maine’s biggest economic advantage, that, just maybe……a national park (and not in the extremites that she has proposed)  just….might help out the Millinocket/Northwoods, Greenville areas?………   I’m beginning to wonder, because we do own the end (or the beginning, according to your point of view) of the Applician Trail………?   And there is only one trail…..see where I’m going with this?

  • Anonymous

    I never agree w/your posts, B, but never flag them, after all,they are your opinions and everyone is entitled to his/her own.  

  • Anonymous

    amen to that, Mary

  • Anonymous

    Ms. Quimby – please read “How to Win Friends and Influence People”. It is clear you have a great deal to learn in this regard:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    She doesn’t exactly look pencil-thin her own self.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    The area she’s talking about making a park isn’t Acadia. No ocean, just miles of forest and blackflies.

    It’s pretty, but it’s not the coast.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    Precisely – most tourists aren’t into deep-woods exploration.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    And by the way folks…..I used to live near Greenville, actually in Guilford.   I now live in Oregon, I lived there for 45 years……but I not so quickly discovered that if one wants to go forward, he or she needs to get another ladder. because Maine only has so many rungs on it’s ladders,   though it’s ladder is tall,  many of those rungs are being cut off.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    Maybe if she moved all the Burt’s Bees jobs back to Maine, we wouldn’t be such a welfare state.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry I let her friend Bert take a bath in my tub years ago.  He didn’t even have brains enough to wipe off the dirt ring when he was done.  Without him and the hard workers of maine she would have nothing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    Thats speculation,……you seen her tax returns?……….     That’s way over the threshold of knowing something before you post

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    Is that being rude to the Millinocket’s, or to Maine, or just to Guilford.     ???   She came out of Parkman……get your crap together dude.   Information is the best answer, and you have none.  And I’m not a Roxanne fan………get it straight.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    The Bangor Daily may as well be……the spoke’s person for the Republican National Party…..      I don’t agree with Ms. Quimby’s method’s, nor do I agree with her motive.   I do agree, however that we need to protect what is valuable to Maine.   The BDN, just seems to alway end up on the MONEY side of the issue, and will apologize much later,  much much later, if it is wrong. Even though the money may be looking right at them, saying “come get me…I’m right here!”……the paper has never agreed with an alternative point of view, other than their own. Which is probably one or two writers.

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne, you don’t have to put on the red light. Here in Maine, we’ve been trying to escape the stooopidity of LePlage our Govnah. I don’t approving these identities about: Fukktards speaking for Maine will be up for your examination.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    Guess what?…..I know them well.  My son’s mother (my now ex) used to work with them.  Roxanne and Burt were indeed a couple.  As a member of the fired department in Guilford, I once responded to a fire in their bee hive area.  They were both very distraught about their losses, as well as our safety.  The army greens?, well I dunno, but I would suggest that both of them dressed this way; the reason why is because they were old hippy’s and they would buy clothes from the salvation army, or get them donated.  At this time, there was no Burt’s Bees, they were just poor.  I don’t mind critical points of view,  but as you say there is much history…. and it cannot be denied.  I do know that they were very generous with their employees during their tenure in Guilford, but Guilford did not offer them the opportunity to expand to what they needed to be.  I know that specifically, it’s the reason why they moved south. There is, in my opinion, nothing wrong with selling candles and bee’s wax products while dressed in cammies at various fairs and gatherings……that’s how they started.  

  • Anonymous

    Ask your self why. Do you really think Mainer want to be welfrare state? I know this. My son won a skills contest in Maine and not one scholarship for college came from a Maine College! All 5 of the were out of state. We have goverment program training 16 to 24 year old that our schools can’t educate or don’t have the funds to educate. But our goverment spend money to these programs here in Maine for a current age group that really don’t get them the real skills they need to compete anyways. So take our money out of education and give goverment money for these programs instead of putting to our education instutes and pay our teachers. Then let big business comment taxes frud by hiring so called sub-contractors and not employeees. You have your self a welfare state. What I feel is Mainers have a big heart we take care of the elderly, the sick,  mentally ill, disablitiies, the hungry, the poor. Our land and our way of life. I find it is the ones with the big hearts are the ones that get screwed and taking advantage of. We want to belive, we want to trust, we want to take care of our people. But it comes with a cost. One I know needs change.  Calling Mainer fat, old, lazy and welfare hungry is really going to help her cause for change and really help Mainers well how’s that working for you Ms.Qumiby!  

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, like when you choke on your own DDicckkk?

  • Anonymous

    I love Maine Land. I will pay the going rate PLUS REAL RATE for all land in Maine. 

  • quit yer whining

    Roxanne tells the truth here sorry folks! Look at some facts before trying to defend a few remarks that perhaps make you angry.

  • Anonymous

    I was born and raised in Millinocket, and had to move away because of the downward spiral of the economy.  However, I have witnessed some of the debate over whether to grow the business of Millinocket to highlight our biggest natural resource; tourism, or to leave the town as quaint and picturesque as it used to be fifty years ago.  But, here’s the rub; trees don’t pay taxes nor teach our children.  Those who enjoy quaint haven’t recently looked down the rundown streets of Millinocket with all of it’s ‘For Sale’ signs across various lawns.  It is not what it used to be, and never will be again.  Change MUST happen, or the town will dry up and die.  People live there because they love the natural aspect, and because it is so cheap to live.  So cheap as to be scary, in fact.  I say, knock down some trees, encourage outsiders to bring in businesses, and BUILD.  If we do not create an economy within that span of woods, there will be no reason for our children to hold on to their roots and raise families.  They, like myself, will uproot and move away.  Natural parks can be pretty, yes, but when it comes at the expense of the family unit, and decreases the possibility of growth, there are a few words to describe the outcome: dismal, disappointing, depressing, dried-up.  Leaving the trees standing as they are is fine if you want to encourage the squirrel population.  If you want to encourage the growth of a pleasant human population, then work must be available, entertainment must be available, and a stable local government MUST BE AVAILABLE.  None of these things have been a staple of Millinocket or the Katahdin region for a long time.  Too long.  Millinocket has become a resting place for those too broke to make changes, too tired to fight the system, and too disappointed at neglected opportunities presented to the town council.  A city is not about the buildings, but those who inhabit the buildings.  Think about the people; the elderly, the infant and all who live in the middle, and give less thought to the bottom line.  A dead civilization creates nothing.  Our stubborn ways are killing us.  Who will appreciate the preservation of a tree after the donator has passed, if the ones scrutinized and sacrificed are starving to death?  And more…  What REALLY has the government, state and federal, done for the people of Millinocket recently?  Let the power stay local.  Give the working men and women a fighting chance. 
        – Michael Weymouth
        – Former resident of Millinocket

  • AionNV

    He didn’t say she said it was the cause.

  • AionNV

    And anyone that’s been to The County lately is surprised at all the heffers…

  • AionNV

    I’ve seen this statement made here frequently, yet never seen anything to back it up, so I’ll once again call BS on it.

  • AionNV

    Exactly, good thing she didn’t also add illiterate.

  • AionNV

    I don’t see where she said it was “too much”.

    It isn’t elitist to be literate.

  • AionNV

    This is hilariously pot kettle black of you.

  • quit yer whining

    A Mainer diet???? Keep the coffee brandy flowing!

  • AionNV

    People talk about The American Dream, of starting your own company and doing well, but when someone actually DOES it, even the so-called conservatives display their envy at success…

  • AionNV

    Now we know why Maine is so screwed, Mainer’s can’t even add.

  • AionNV

    Oh, sorry, I didn’t realize you were the editor at AMG, of course simple addition and comparative analysis is way, way beyond you.

  • Anonymous

    Talk about denial. Whether she is from away or not, what she says rings true.

  • Anonymous

    It is really rich that when the right wingers on here say that Maine is a welfare state, it’s OK, but when someone with a degree of money and power says it (and is an environmentalist) she is dismissed as being “from away” and slanderous.

  • Jazz11

    She is 100% on the money!

  • Anonymous

    I certainly hope not, I think we will find out at the upcoming meeting? I had a lot of respect for East Millinocket and the Millinocket School Boards for not getting involved in this. It seems someone on the selectmen board in East Millinocket may have sipped some of Quimby’s kool-aid?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OA4CY7VEIB2S453LCNHIVU5DMQ Joe Johnson

    maine is an older state with high percentage of seniors and veterans. If u really think they should be left to the sharks on wall street then i guess you dont like welfare

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OA4CY7VEIB2S453LCNHIVU5DMQ Joe Johnson

     the Republican way of thinking anything that fits on a bumper sticker

  • Anonymous

    She said Maine is the most obese of New England states and the data supports her claim. That young people are leaving is evidence something is unappealing about Maine. Also, old people tend to depend on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicare, so maybe Quimby is right about her welfare state comment. This is not to say these programs aren’t desirable.

  • Anonymous

    It seems she does things to call attention to herself. She is obviously not a very nice person. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see a whole lot of “denial” among most Mainers.  They are rightly concerned about the economy and lack of employment that would give them stable, long-term access to middle class jobs.  The forest products industry used to be that and will always be part of it.  Drug abuse and related crime, obesity,  substance abuse (including tobacco and alcohol) are on most people’s radars and certainly areas where more action will be taken each year.  Shoring up educational systems is one effective way to improve the job outlook.  Lamenting all of the above is pointless, Roxanne.  We turned the corner on that years ago, and you should too.  Shame on you for this attitude.  I consider myself an environmentalist, stop trying to talk me out of that.

  • poormaniac

    I’m old , poor , and fat and still don’t want another national park in Maine ! Ban Roxanne !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Solomon/100001908192040 Joe Solomon

    Dear  Roxanne, if you could only listen to yourself,you talk about people in the katahdin region being tone deaf, your ears must be completely closed, you don’t even hear the verbal diarrhea coming out of your own mouth.The woods operations in the region have not “destoyed” the forest like you want everyone to think, the local mills have to compete with mills from overseas, that pay alot less in wages and no local taxes or benefits to its workers. Oh and where is your company now, you started it right here in Maine and then moved it to Durham, North Carolina, WHY…???was it the high taxes? or the ” fat lazy obese ” people you hired? As far as  the regions schools go , if you don’t have a steady population base schools are going to be in a perpetual state of disrepair, wouldn’t make much sense to build a new multi million dollar school with no students and no tax base,i.e. the mills close and those “fat obese ” workers have to go live off “welfare” in a different part of the sate. Oh well, you’ve certainly ticked me off, well its off to work for my “lazy obese butt”. Til your next verbal diarrhea outburst, so long…and good luck with that park idea now…

  • poormaniac

    The White Mountain National Forest is not a National Park , the businesses are there to support the sking industry , the camping industry , there are major East West  routes ( 302 and 2) that make it easily accessable. The area is located near large population states ( Mass. , Conn . ) , it is also easily accessable to the larger population areas of Canada. The Katahdin region in no way compares to this , however  if Roxanne proposed a National Forest she might still find some support !

  • yowsayowsa1

    NO PARK FOR Me.

  • poormaniac

    Perhaps if Roxanne were to build the roads  , bridges , and other infrastructure necessary prior to giving the land to the feds she might get more support.  Acadia was developed long before it was given to the government as a park.

  • poormaniac

    OK so it is a ghost island !

  • poormaniac

    And most of the employees collect those federal and state benefits that Roxanne is talking about !

  • poormaniac

    Exactly and now that Katahdin Lake is part of Baxter we have no place left to go whale watching.

  • yowsayowsa1

     And the reason for all the sad scenarios you make reference to can be seen in the policies of the  democrat controlled government of the past thirty years.
     The environmental agenda has been well recieved here in Maine from the time of Ed Muskie and George Mitchell.
     We have seen a systematic series of decisions made by southern Maine enviros that have negatively impacted rural Maine starting with the formation and eventual takeover of LURC whose policies have been the primary reason for the de-population of the rural parts of the state.
     These people and their counterparts in the rest of the country have identified Maine as a “battleground” where they desire to force people to move away to share the “upwardly mobile” lifestyle that they revere while coveting the laid back, truly good life some rural Mainers enjoy.

     Simply said; They are jealous of what rural Maine has, and will do anything to get it.

  • Anonymous

    Ayuh, but we are also Mainuh’s- something she will never be.

  • poormaniac

    I call for her to donate her land to the people of the Katahdin region and leave ! I can’t help but wonder just who’s going to want to start a business up in the area now that the whole world knows we are just a fat , old bunch of drug users who live on state and federal welfare !

  • yowsayowsa1

     I’ve seen inbreds.

     They look like her!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Solomon/100001908192040 Joe Solomon

    “Snowmobiling is a big industry in Maine, bringing in $350 million annually for a sport that lasts just three months.”  quote out of the Bangor Metro, so yeah, it could be billions with a B, add hunting, fishing, fourwheeling, guiding, sporting camps, camping, it could surely be a BILLION…

  • yowsayowsa1

     The American dream is only the tool that this woman is using to force the nightmare of the National Park Service on the good people of the Katahdin region.

  • yowsayowsa1

    DUH?

  • Anonymous

    Shc calls us a welfare state and took her company out of Maine.How did that help our employment and give the jobs to help get some off welfare?She has money and like many who are rich, have no understanding of others.Being rich makes one always right of course!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you BDN for reinstating my comment.  Far too often, people are using the ‘flag button’ to take down a comment that they disagree with, rather than because it is inappropriate.  I’m happy to see that you are using discretion in those cases.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to say it, but she is right….quote:
    ‘Roxanne Quimby called Maine “a welfare state” that has a large population of obese and elderly people’

    This is the real problem we must address, If people want charity they should step up to Roxanne’s Social Program that she seems so qualified to create and oversee.

  • Anonymous

    MDI/Acadia was a tourist and rich persons destiniatioin going back before a national park. Yes the park brings people in but name 5 sites in this proposed park that match any of Acadia’s offerings.
     

  • Anonymous

    Yes, she can buy land and do as she sees fit….but when it comes to the EXPENSE of a National Park….then taxpayers have the right to voice their opinion.   To me this is just more government money……we have enough debt without borrowing more  from China.

  • Moose

    She would remind you of mason mutt.

  • Anonymous

    I know a good number of business owners who do not have to work during the off season.

  • Anonymous

    A very large portion of the labor pool on the island is high school and college students.

  • Anonymous

    I dont know what part of Maine you are from but I find in my area that is it those that ‘move here from away’ that are the ones who try to keep everything tied up so that we as a state cant grow. More regulations, more control, more butting noses into their nieghbors business. That is what is killing us.

  • Anonymous

    How much tax money is it?  Should be public information.

  • Anonymous

    Shut up Roxy and take a hike we dont need you to” rescue” us Your elitist attitude matches the presidents and he is gonna be gone and your thievery of federal money along with it,You will get no support from anyone in this state that matters.Go count your trust fund money.Your toast.

  • Anonymous

    another paid poll

  • Anonymous

    Well, I see the news took down my comments about Roxanne. I might have been a little mean in what I said but its clear the woman does need a makeover. Im ugly as well so I should be able to say what I think. She moved her company out of Maine because of the business climate. She comes back and does nothing about the climate. She complains we are all fat welfare recipients. Fair enough Roxanne. You used Maine to springboard to another state with a friendier business climate. You used the “Burts Bee’s” moniker to create a feeling of rural friendliness. In essence, Roxanne used an old man raising bees to moisten the lips of millions of people, in turn, lining her pockets. However, what did she really think of this Burt guy? Was he chunky? Did he ever use food stamps or take other aid from the state. The problem is (as stated in my earlier, angrier comments) is that the people who open business near her park to sell moose statues and plastic Brook Trout backscratchers, will be forced to stay near her park. They will not be able to carpetbag to another state to continue to sell the items like she was. Then of course they will be taxed and regulated out of business because the state still needs cash to pay the recipents who cant work as well as the many who choose not to (because folks, they are here as well). She did not come here to make the business climate better. She came here to force people to bow to her will. Now Roxanne makes fun of us. She was correct that we are a welfare state and we are fat. I’m fat. I’m ugly. I do not have chapped lips or dry hands so I have never needed her products. I am not on welfare and most believe I am a hard working guy who has never needed to reach out to the state for any type of handout. I also think our overtaxing and overspending to help those who wont help themselves is a little much. Roxanne could have produced her product here and employed many people. She still could have made her park and even opened a discount outlet to sell her “factory second” hand lotion and lip balm to the throngs that would come to visit her park. She could have had a moose mascot waving at the crowds driving to the park. People would stop and have their picture taken and buy her wares. She wont though. Roxanne Quimby loves to use Maine people. She didnt stay here to  help employ them. She came back to enslave them. Shut up Quimby. You are a mean spirited, lonely woman. Put the kayak on the roof and tie it tight. The toll booths of Kittery call out to you to exit the state and return to where your bank account truly lies. Somewhere else.

  • Anonymous

    Welfare isn’t inherently bad. Paying higher taxes to receive benefits (like most other first world countries) greatly increases quality of life. I think the hate for the poor collecting help from the state stems from some sort of jealously. As far as obesity, Maine has similar rates to Massachusetts which is #49 compared to our #34, which tells you how close the bottom of the list is. Calling Mainers fat and poor is terrible, defending her for doing so is sickening.

  • Anonymous

    Who on earth really CARES about what Roxanne Quimby thinks???????

  • Anonymous

    Nice Roxanne, we sure are going to support your efforts, NOT!!  You forgot to mention that we are also voters.

  • Anonymous

    roxy on welfare then she bashes welfare ,i believe it

  • Anonymous

    I guess insult is one way to win the hearts and minds

  • Anonymous

    take a look around

  • Anonymous

    No.  It is fun to read what people like you put into words in order to hurt someone.  Isn’t it annoying when facts interfere with you.

  • Anonymous

    how do you know she didnt im sure she did !

  • Anonymous

    Just curious.  Do you live under a rock?

  • Anonymous

    The town of guilford is glad she is gone and so are the neighbors by the looks of it welfare nanny returns rich and bashes the welfare,what an elitist snob Ban Roxanne ! 

  • Anonymous

    Wait.  She just described our Federal Government, they are all of those things.

  • Anonymous

    No generalizing there Rocky. It must be nice to have enough money to be able to solve the state’s problems. What did we do without your insight and wisdom before you came along? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4L63GCXJWMMCZUDDAVEFLEQLRI matt

    then let the loggers in maine cut the trees off your land. getting them back to work would help the “welfare state” but no you sit on all your trees. You should just … go away.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Sambides pratically lifts an entire article from another source and you call that a “well written article”.

  • Anonymous

    It is very clear that Quimby does not like the people in this state. Evidently no one measures up to her standards. She has done nothing but insult the population, a population she needs to get her memorial national park put in place. If she does not like us so much why doesn’t she leave and make us all happy?

  • Anonymous

    I work in travel. I am convinced that a NP would work here- no question. But- I just read Quimby’s interview.  I don’t like her. I don’t understand why she calls herself a “Mainer”.  I have been swayed. Wish I had read about her prior to this….how silly of me.
    The fact that maybe some of what she says is true has no bearing. To the basic Park arguement or to this article. Bottom line is she needs to respect the people of Maine- which she obviously does not.

  • Anonymous

    The Empress of the Northwoods has no clothes. Quimby is used to being a bull in a china shop and getting her way or the highway. The fact that she’s meeting resistance from people who are naturally skeptical of anyone coming into town waving wads of money around telling the local serfs what’s good for them with one hand,  and giving the community the finger with the other hand.   This was a great article, well written, and informative for anyone who thinks that the forest industry in Maine is on it’s last legs. There’s plenty of wood, and there would be plenty of people to cut it if people were paid a living wage to cut pulp. As it stands, Canadians enjoy a distinct advantage in not having to pay health insurance premiums which are very costly for Mainers, especially for those that perform this dangerous work. Other than that deficiency, I see a long life for paper and specialty  mills as long as there is wood to cut. 
    Roxanne however, will continue to stomp her feet and ball her fists up in frustration at the poor, fat morons she thinks populate northern Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne,Roxanne,as the sayin goes..I am be fat,but your UGLY… I can always go on a diet.,but there isn’t no fixing ugly

  • Anonymous

    She talks about obese people, She looks like she has not missed many meals herself.

  • Anonymous

    Well, we are older, more obese, drive more giant vehicles to get around, burn the most heating oil per capita than any other state….didn’t know about federal welfare assistance, sounds like a call to arms.

  • Anonymous

    If everyone in the area hates Quimby and is opposed to a national park then who keeps selling land to her? This logging issue would be dead if we could grow hemp for paper in The County.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Maine the way life should be,

    Poor, Fat, and Drunk!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

    Maine the way life should be,

    Poor, Fat, and Drunk!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    But we are a welfare State.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, just so you know after looking at four sources Maine ranks right in the middle at 26th or 27th with 26% of the population considered obese. 

  • Anonymous

    Quimby finally showing her true colors.

  • Anonymous

    Had Mr. Sambides not prominently cited and linked the primary article, the word “lift(ed)” might apply.

    In fact, Mr. Sambides distilled the original in a neutral, high fidelity manner.

  • Anonymous

    Note she said she ‘had’ about 45 women in Guilford when she started Burt’s Bees – however I don’t believe that company is in Maine any longer. Go buy land somewhere else, we neither want you, nor need you!

  • Anonymous

    I think Ms Quimby is right in a lot of things that she says it’s just that she is very straight forward and  people in this state don’t like to here that especially if it is the truth and I would say that 85% is true. This woman has don’t here homework, and she has been around. And when she says that this state is poor and that obesity is high and so are drugs she is right on target if you don’t believe it go sit in the mall and witch the people as they walk by and you tell me if obesity is not problem in this state. Changes are one of hardest things to do, but because we never want to make changes in this state on certain things this is on of the reasons why we are twenty years behind the times. And i am not saying that Ms Quimby is all right but i do say that if you listen to what she has to say she is not all wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Not only is it mostly true what Roxanne says, but the right wingers have been writing it on here for years as a taunt to the progressives. Now that somebody they hate says it, all of a sudden the wingers do a 180 and whine that it isn’t true.  Revisionist history is another hallmark of the right.

  • Anonymous

    Who is “we”????………..you certainly don’t speak for me or many others I suspect. In fact, YOU are part of the problem in this state………a loud vocal minority that think that they speak for everyone.

  • Anonymous

    What’s that…….honesty?

  • Anonymous

    Agreed..  Truth hurts sometimes..  Deal with it, after reading this article when you go into town today, look around..  You will see.

  • Anonymous

    Your fat, rude and ignorant.

  • Anonymous

    Geez, Roxy must be taking “foot in mouth” lessons from Governor LePage (who at least seems to hold Maine people in high regard).

  • Anonymous

    People born here do not like people in this state. By the way, it is a free country, people move about as they wish.

  • Anonymous

    You know I have lived in Maine all my life, but I have also don’t a lot of traveling domestic and over seas, and i consider myself to be avid outdoor sports man. But listening to what you have to say to be consider a Mainer,i am not sure i what to be one , thank god we all don’t think the way that u do. If it was not for the out of state people coming to Me in the summer and fall to take vacations we would not be generating much revenue in this state, so don’t forget that.

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    I’m not aware of any stands of such trees in Maine either. There is a state park in Michigan that has some – folks there realized that the most of the virgin timber had been cut, and protected some of the last. Amazing trees – 150 feet tall white pine. The land was donated to the state by a local timber company, and is now known as Hartwick Pines State Park:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartwick_Pines_State_Park

  • Anonymous

    Ugly comes in many forms……….don’t be so smug about your obesity.

  • Anonymous

    It is only an insult if you take it that way.

  • Anonymous

    She needs to respect welfare, drugs, and obesity???……..no wonder the problems persist here.

  • Anonymous

    Truth hurts.

  • Anonymous

    Well,, it is a a welfare state, full of obese people, just take a look at washington County!! As much as I dislike Roxanne Quimby, I have to agree with her on that statement.

  • Anonymous

    Who’s “us”????…….some of YOU need to stop speaking for the rest of “US”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    waah waah it’s not truuueee!!! i hate facts, make them go away mommiy!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/noway90 Dave B.

    One thing Quimby missed in this article is the fact of how Gov’t regulations was one of the causes in the down fall of the lumber industry. I grow up in Ashland ME and watched Canada move in to our state through the 70′s. The clear cut laws at that time where not the right way of saving the logging industry. As Canadian crews would clear thousand of acres there was no replanting done. Trade policies also helped our wood to be sent to Canada then lumber sold back at a cheaper price then what we could sell our lumber for. Today in Ashland the industry in gone and most of the land is owned by Irving.  Our state never has put Maine people first but instead let greed and power rule. The welfare state became the norm as politicians fought for power stating “we need to help the misplaced workers” (welfare for votes) All through the 80′s we told Augusta the clear cutting policies were wrong cause the ones being used would end the industry within 15-20 years. Now look, we were right.  I feel now it’s too late for the lumber industry to come back because the policies are created by politicians with hidden agendas for retaining the power they have with voters of the southern part of the state. There is no way of retaining a working economy when it revolves around 3-4 summer months. This is a northern state with 8 months of weather that people just will not vacation in. Time for Augusta to look at jobs for Maine and stop trying to be like states with 10 times the population. This is the very reason our children leave the state as soon as they graduate from school if they even do graduate.

  • Anonymous

    If it’s public information, you can look it up. I don’t even understand why “how much” should make a difference, and I am currently working two jobs in order to pay for MY taxes and have better things to do than to look up all of her land in all of those counties, figure out what it WOULD be if she were paying full boat — which she is not — and reporting it to you.

    The fact is that she is currently not paying her FULL share — let alone her FAIR SHARE — due to her dubious use of tree growth, and once she gives it to the federal government, NO ONE pays taxes on that land. But the spending isn’t going down, so just who do you suppose pays the taxes the federal government isn’t going to pay?

  • Anonymous

    The business climate in Maine is terrible. She would have stayed if Maine treated business fairly. Until people here in Maine catch on that business (and jobs) is good, business are going to go elsewhere. The legislature passed a law saying that Health-Tex could not leave the state. Can you believe that, not only is Health-Tex gone it signals to any other company thinking of setting up here that Maine is NOT the place to go.

  • http://www.facebook.com/will.bradbury1 Will Bradbury

    She said in New England, and we are #1 in New England, but fairly skinny compared to the rest of the US.  We do get a tremendous amount amount of grants. Here in Eastport we  have gotten a 7.5 million dollar grant for a conveyor system at Estes Head, which was built with federal money, and the biggest hope for town growth come from ORPC, which operates almost entirely on tax-payer grants.  If we didn’t have such skillful Senators who bring other peoples money to Maine, we would be hurting for certain. We get $1.41 back for every dollar we pay in federal taxes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    the only thing worse than a tourist  is a native northern mainer. they ignore bag limits, drive and dump indicriminately and have “feelings and emotions” that they own all the land and are some type of proud frontierspeople. if they could just come out of the 1800s get an education, some skills, some manners, and a soul, northern maine would be an enjoyable place to visit again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_242UYYUGE4DMT6IHTTFNQN5ELM travelingchef

    she forgot druggies,boozers,sex offenders, criminals……all obviously untrue of course

  • Anonymous

    She didn’t say anything about northern Maine she said Maine and she is correct, like it or not. Look in a mirror people.

  • Anonymous

    Mine too, Penobscoteer. I mentioned last night that “obese” people can lose weight but ugly is simply ugly. But I guess the BDN finds nothing wrong with calling regular people fat while pointing out that a beauty mogul is not beautiful is apparently not ok.

    Love those double standards, huh?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    the unemployment rate is half for those with any type of degree. but don’t tell that tto proud northeren mainers, they’re busy down at the local store whining to uncle daddy about how wardens and life arent fayah,

  • Anonymous

    Send her packing. It will NEVER take place now. “A dream is but a dream, sweetheart.” :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    the truth hurts.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you have to be dumb and hate business to be a Mainer? She tried to run a business here. The business climate is so bad here she did the only thing an intelligent business person could do, she left for a place where they treat business better.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    i stopped reding and couldn’t take you seriously after “adds billions”. make stuff  up much???

    whadda maroon.

  • Anonymous

    Pianoplayah, have you ever BEEN to a gateway community? I grew up in one, before it was a gateway and after, and I urge you to check your facts about what happens to the economy of a gateway community when the “national park economy” becomes the community’s new economy. The community gets smaller as people flock elsewhere to get what you no doubt call “a living wage,” and those who manage to stay in the community take a huge cut in pay and in lifestyle. Oh, how you must look forward to a local economy which consists of 3 gas stations, 5 motels, and a plethora of trinket shops. How ’bout we do that to YOUR community?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    more republican “feelings and emotions”. don’t let the facts get in your way genius.

  • Anonymous

    I ask myself the same question. The only thing I can come up with is that she loves the place, the same as I do. Maine will always be where my heart is even if I have to run my business elsewhere.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    for telling the truth? i suppose if you are ignorant, uneducated and proud with a big chip on your shoulder then i suppose you would be.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    aww you’ll be ok. really. and when you’re successfull someday, your opinion will matter too! people will listen to you and you can be noticed.

  • Anonymous

    The hard working woodsman are not the welfare recipients that she is talking about. It’s the large proportion of Mainers that would rather complain about the dark than turn on a light.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    poor poor mainurs. some of em don’t like that book learnins stuff.

  • Anonymous

    Who appointed you spokesman for the Town of Guilford? Sounds like sour grapes to me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    poor lease holders! guess the squatters need to find somewhere else to avoid taxes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    aww,don’t cry now little man.

  • Anonymous

    Let the facts speak for themselves and don’t condemn those that quote them.

  • Anonymous

    The well to do lady from away (Mass) that now calls Maine “home” wants to change the State to her rich ways.   Mass. leads the league in crime, drugs and terrorists that crashed the Trade Centers.
    Too bad true Maine natives that have worked for a living & lived here their entire lives don’t agree.

  • Anonymous

    What are you going to do when you drive that last viable business and associated jobs out of Maine, eat pine cones?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    you lost me at piehole. sounds like you need a therapist, or a dog. someone to get all the anger out to.

  • Anonymous

    Do you really expect honesty from a politician???………LOL.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EBGSNRYAW7SCCYO5MWW7QYZMZ4 ramon

    “So you are saying the businesses close up and the owners take a vacation? Now that is what I call a profitable business.”

    I am near Acadia, have a business   dependent on tourism, I am off  traveling the world at least 4 months out of the year when we are closed.  I would not be doing this without Acadia National Park and the tourism $$$ it generates . Life is good!Why are these people so stuck in their ways? My father (a real Mainer what ever that is) Used to say about people near Acadia  ”people have a gold mine in their dooryards and don’t even know it” . He knew it, and I thank him everyday of my life for teaching me that.

  • Anonymous

    1. Treat business better.
    2. Get more jobs.
    3. People get off welfare.
    4. Maine is prosperous again.

    You can’t have 2,3 and 4 if you don’t do number 1.

    Wake up and hear the music.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    millinocket is a 21% unemployed wonderland. roxanne should stop telling lies and be respectful. she’s making stuff up. uh huh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4B3OAFVEPAC6G43SIV5BL4TESE Sweetcheeks

    cut and paste. yawn.

  • Anonymous

    Wall street doesn’t even know your here. You ARE insignificant to them. You ARE also jealous of anyone that has more than you. The young people leave because your ignorance makes sure there is no opportunity here. Wake up and hear the music.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWFPOA5XX4TUQDWSFMPMIAGTWY Carole

    I just read the Forbes article. I suggest that those of you who have not read it to do so and the comments at the end of it. Overall the entire article comes across as an infomercial. At this point I have more questions than comments.

    The biggest question I have is, if this land say does become a Federal Park who pays the on going bills for the upkeep and the like on it?  It is one thing if anyone donates land for any type of park however why not also figure out the upkeep and needed improvements for 10 or 20 years on said park.The land donor should give at least 75 percent of these monies for  the upkeep. Is this a crazy idea?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    for every $1 in federal taxes mainers pay into the federal government,we get $3 back  in fed aid.
    for every $1 in federal taxes mass.  pay into the federal government,they get back a dime
    most mass towns have lower crimes rates than maine towns.

    once we stop hiding from the truth about maine, we can make maine better,cause the state s—s right now.  has s— for decades

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne Quimby loathes central and northern maine, because we are not enlightened enough to see the merit of her national park proposal.  She has implicitly threatened to deny access to her land unless snowmobile clubs rally to support her proposal of a north woods national park.  She is a bully, and one who despises the people of the area she claims she is trying to help.  Rather than become servants and objects of amusement to wealthy benefactors to the south, I am sure that  many people in the north country would have preferred working at her company which she founded here.  Too bad that she pulled the plug and took it south where she could make even more money.  Combining that, with her mean-spirited remarks, Ms. Quimby may have a right to manage her land as she sees fit, but she sure does not have our interests at heart.  She is a wolf, in wolf’s clothing, now that we see her true colors.  

     

  • Anonymous

    So I’m a little husky, what’s your point? I need a place to put my plate when I watch football on Sundays…
    Her whole goal is to transform northern Maine, and her frustration lies with her inability to sell this pie in the sky park, mainly because of her history here. Her first foray into land buying was an object lesson for those unfortunate enough to have camps there. They were told to move them immediately or she would buy them for less than the going rate. If they didn’t sell them or move them, there would be no access granted to the owners. She is ruthless and without guile although she would like to think everyone in the northwoods is stupid enough to follow her lead without question. 

  • Anonymous

    Save your gas money, just go to Walmart; they’re everywhere. Sad part is most of them are young and have overweight children too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    hey you booze hounds ,you druggies, you chronic complainers,…
    always something wrong when someone tells the truth about this state

    there are 300million americans across the country sayin
    the same thing about maine

    you go quimby

  • Anonymous

    proofread please

  • Anonymous

    As in denying climate change?

  • Anonymous

    Gee…. can anyone hit this one out of the ballpark???

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t change the fact that the people of Maine are on average much too fat, and in comparison to neighboring states, poorly educated and too reliant on public assistance.

    Of course, this has nothing to do with her national park aspirations. Can’t agree with her on that one.

  • Anonymous

    Appears she is more comfortable hobnobbing with the Palm Beach crowd.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    wealth makes you feel inferior?

  • Anonymous

    Really? The central bank is responsible for the American people voting in members of both parties who promise all the benefits without taxation? Really really? Too bad Perry won’t win the nomination for the Repubs and the spotlight can reveal how preposterous your statement is.
    Face it. WE elected Democrats who promised everybody lots of benefits, but didn’t show us the money. And WE elected Republicans who gave tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans while spending trillions on war without showing where the money was going to come from. Central bank phhhut! Just a new bogeyman from the right to hide somebody’s tracks.

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne, if everyone is as incompetent as you are claiming then they wouldn’t have the intelligence to be economically prosperous in the face of a National Park.  According to your own statements, it would take a bunch of people from out of Maine to come here and open prosperous businesses and employ the locals at minimum wage. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2KZEEKYVSWZCU6V5OGQPQ5EDCE N

    Maybe instead of picking apart the people and just buying up land to make into a park that no one will care to go to.  Maybe she should take her funds and put it to better use like making jobs.  Stop talking down about the people in the state in which she wants land and take some time to help get this state back up on its feet.  I can sure say a national park won’t be of any help. We already have enough land that is government run.  We don’t need to be saving trees but making actual jobs.

  • Anonymous

    The worst problem Maine is facing, having her in the state. Money talks and she can’t shut her mouth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2KZEEKYVSWZCU6V5OGQPQ5EDCE N

    I do not agree with some of your statement.  I don’t feel you need a education beyond high school.  We are not all poorly educated.  I can say for a fact that most people I know who have college degrees aren’t even putting them to use because there is just no work in the fields of study they went into.  As for her, she needs to do more with her money than just buy up land.  If she has such a problem with the Maine people she should look into helping the people by creating jobs not just buy up all the land she can get just because she can.  I think if she got to know the people of the state her opinions would change.  I know she mentioned it’s a “welfare state” which isn’t overly untrue, but she doesn’t know reason behind why some are on it.  I do agree that a lot take advantage of it and would like to see it changed myself, but just talking about how people are welfare cases isn’t going to change a thing. 

  • Anonymous

    Ban Roxanne!!!!  All she wants is ” Quimby National Park”

  • kkmousse

    I would not totally agree with Roxanne in here charactorization of this State.  Granted we have an older population ( I’m in my 50s) but I do not consider myself aged!  Therre are many active older people and we are not decrepit and sit back and let things just happen.  I beleive that the census mentioned that the average age was in teh 50′s.  So there are also people older and younger here.
    The  large forest industry landholders may take care of the land   with selective cuts and  replanting.  But that is not the norm that I have seen out there.  There are small landowners that need money so they hire a cutter and because the parcel is less then say 10 acres they get around the clear cut rules and butcher the land and scar the crooked trees they leave standing.  The rutts caused by the skidders while working in rainsoaked lands is beyond repair for years.  The need to havest the land quickly to meet the contract requirement the priority. 
    Some of the Foresters appear to be on the payroll of the treecutters since they let slide many violations of cutting practices around streams and property lines.  When it is mentioned about a violation they will not step on the toes of another forester to correct the matter. 
    Rules for violations are to the benefit of the violater.  The violation has to be seen by a Forester and can not be reported by a victim of a violation (property boundry marked trees cut down as an example). 
    As mentioned by Quimby the State has never diversified into other areas of industry and it is run by the Large Lumber Landowners and Mills.  Hardwood trees take years to grow and populating forest with fast growing soft woods is not a good longterm practice. 
    But is see the worse offenders of the woods as the small lot woodcutter, they seem to be able to circumvent laws made to protect the land from longterm damage. (errosion from rutts, etc). 
    Also is the bigger issue of towns not doing anything about people just digging a hole to bury things that they can not get rid of in their yards.  There are many dumps in people yards, some you can even see on your street by using mapquest or googlemaps.  They have a bielf, that if you do not see it (ie bury it) then it is not a problem.  Even though it may contain toxins that may damage the water tables in the town. 
    But all in all I do not support Quimby and her issue of making a National Park.  We do not need one, what we need it to diversify from forest products and get some good paying jobs in this state and get younger people to move here. Enable the complaints of people to be investigate so that violaters can be charges for damages and fix them.  Not give them a slap on the hand or a pass to change there names and do it again.     

  • Anonymous

    To many who post here, it is!!

  • Anonymous

    Amen!  It is that little mentality that thinks otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    Usually the ones who downgrade and demean another’s looks are not so…….

  • kkmousse

    Did I hear you right, Perry is just speaking to get voted. He does not tell the trueth most of the time.  He takes credit for other peoples work.  We do not need another Texan in Office We have had Johnson, Bush and Bush that is enough already.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    quimby is doing what is called the dirty work….she is telling what is true

  • Anonymous

    You should keep your comments about northern Maine natives to your self, because near as I can tell your just like Quimby, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Most of us”County Folks” are the most hard working,  honest, caring people you’d ever want to call friend.  

  • Anonymous

    So now we are poor, obese and inbred. What a positive discription for our thriving State.

  • http://twitter.com/DirigoBlue Gerald Weinand

    You’re numbers are not accurate, although it is correct that Maine receives more back from Washington than it sends ($1.41), and Mass receives less ($0.82). 2005 are the most recent numbers I can find:

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/266.html

  • kkmousse

    I see that a lot these days. People that just play games rather then seek out different venues for news.  You can not only read one paper or watch one channel for news (first due to downsizing of the media reporting staff the contract to a syndicated report) you end up with almost the exact same report on TV channels and newspapers.  If that is all you look at. Then you are brainwashed by that story and believe it a s true.
    Diversity open your eyes and ears. Pay attention to what is going on in the WORLD, you can not just hide in you little town and think that what goes on OUT there does not affect you, well it does and you need to pay attention.

  • Anonymous

    Ms. Quimby ought to move to Berkeley, Cal., or Madison, Wis., and play her tune to an audience which likes her music. Her arrogance, assumed superiority, and personal insensitivity are hallmarks of the Radical / Liberal mindset.
    If she doesn’t like Maine, she ought to move elsewhere. I’m sure we can muddle through without her.

  • kkmousse

    What Quimby sees is a population that mostly is hardworking but did not get above a high school education.  With that said she sees them a ignorant of knowing what is good for them like you would be as a parent to a child. 
    Even though the people may not be edvanced in education they may have better common sense then someone highly educated.  But that is not even considered.  So she talks down to the people of Northern and Central Maine.  The goal a playground for those that are able to pay the fee to get in not for those people ever.  That is the plan.  It is not for all the people to enjoy only those rich enough and the “blank” with the rest of us poo Maine people…..you will just have to move elsewhere to another State to live……there will be no stores for food or clothes, no nothing.  Just plane landing strips for those rich enough to enjoy withoutever dealing with a real native Maine person ever!

  • Anonymous

    “Thank you Nick for reporting on this. Now everyone can see just
    what Quimby is all about. I’m glad she got caught with her foot in her
    mouth. Isn’t she a great steward of the NMW and the State of Maine? BAN ROXANNE!!!!!(talk about tone deaf, we’ve been saying it for years!!!!)

    145 people liked this.”

    146

  • kkmousse

    No it will be off our tax rolls for income but on the tax outgo for Federal Taxes we all pay.  So at some point there may not be money from the Fed for upkeep and it will be a burden and then leased to the companies to be stripped bare with the approval of all the elected officials in Washington.  Nothing for the people to do here but just sit and watch it happen. (even if we have input it will all be meaningless just a show of us having a say, when we will not)

  • Anonymous

    Bert’s Bees was a Maine product and she sold it out. Now it’s made down south. With her millions, now she trying to play with Mainer’s lives…….Not only no, but Hell No…….She can keep her land we will find another place to put our snowmobile trails………..Just because she fell into a lot of money, she can judge the poeple of Maine. I think not……….

  • Anonymous

    wouldnt that be closer to 26 out of every 100?

  • Anonymous

    Gee I think I remember the tea party screaming all about welfare this and welfare that. Like it or not Ms Q has apparently become a tea party member. 

  • Anonymous

    Looking at most of your comments, looks like you could use a little book learning yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne Quimby needs to butt out. Mainers are protective of their state from the Roxanne Quimbys of the world and all others from “away”. We may be fat and ignorant but we will fight this every step of the way. Besides, her remark about “starting Burt’s Bees”. If my memory serves me right, Burt (“Ingamar  Shavitz”) had the Bee business long before she came on the scene with her ability to finance bigger things.

  • Anonymous

    This lady is crazy! She doesn’t know what she is talking about, she is all over the place ranting mindlessly. 

    She goes from obese and elderly people, to welfare, the forestry industry, oxycotin abuse,  to the paper mills and chinese students in school…WTH? 

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t that a kind of welfare?

  • Anonymous

    Funny!!!!

  • Anonymous

    That’s a possible way to be, I suppose, but she might consider treating Maine people like they are her best friends.

    There’s an old saying illustrating the likliehood of getting farther with honey (heh heh)
    than with vinegar,  n’est ce pas?

  • Anonymous

    I have tried to impartial on the issue of the park. Roxanne left Maine to make her fortune and now comes back to take what we have preserved and wants us to think that we have done a cruumy job.

    I will now make the park issue my number one project to make sure that there will not even be a vote to study the park idea, Shades of 2004 and the bear campain. Thank you Roxanne for showing  Maine citizens  your arrogance and contempt for our way of life,

  • Anonymous

    What percentage of the 26 moved here from another state?

  • Anonymous

    We may be fat, ignorant welfare recipients but we still hold hard to our heritage. Roxanne needs to butt out along with others like her who are “from away”. Please, go somewhere where people want to change into your image. Besides, her remark “I started Burt’s Bees” could be suspect. If my memory serves me correctly, Burt (Ingmar [sp] Shavitz) was selling honey from HIS bees in our town long before Roxanne Quimby came on the scene with her ability to finance bigger things.

  • Lester C Martin Sr

    well Sweetcheeks, these leases they paid usally over $1000 per year or better , and personnel property tax on their cabin ,I think the State got its share of income. Back 50 years ago or more leases went 99 years but changes  through ownership sure changed that on property.
    You can’t tell me Sweetcakes if you had a chance to get a lease on the North Maine woods for a cabin you wouldn’t  jump too it !

  • Anonymous

    After reading the comment’s here today, who would want to visit our lovely State? A state of welfare dependent fat people. My line of work depends on tourism and I find it hard to support a family of  five on a six month tourist season. What will a National Park bring in the off season? I dont’t know about the rest of you but my family needs to eat twelve months a year and living off my income doesn’t allow for obesity.  I still work year round and don’t collect welfare in the off season. I just wait for the tourists that your freedom of speech comment’s are going to drive away.  Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby, even those big states with lots of money like NY are closing schools.  Even with big money on Wall Street they still have welfare.  Calling Mainer’s obese….the nation is obese!  Funny comments.

    Do you want a park?  Make it yourself and pay out of your pocket.  Here is your chance to give back to Maine after you pulled stakes and left.  You would have been able to do whatever you wanted with open arms if you would have kept your business here.

    Your land, do what you will, but I shouldn’t have to pay for it.

  • Anonymous

    and she really needs to have her eyebrows trimmed…just saying..lol

  • Anonymous

    Ms. Quimby speaks as though the state of Maine is her own personal playground and she is the only person who knows what’s best for it and its people.   The only thing worse than an environmentalist whacko is an environmentalist whacko with money.  I am deeply offended by her remarks and resent the unwarranted attack on the forest product industry.  She’s an interloper who needs to mind her own business and let the Maine people run their own state- we don’t need her to save us.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like she’s thinking of running for office. She’s got all of the basics covered:
    1) Make sweeping, grandiose statements that are not based in factual data.
    2) Insult the poor and the elderly by calling them fat and lazy.
    3) Imply that everyone in the entire state is participating in welfare fraud.

    Why is it that the rich never seem to be able to remember what being poor was like? The selective amnesia is impressive.

    Good luck with getting Mainers to cooperate with your grand plans now after you’ve insulted them…smart move, dear.

  • Anonymous

    Truth or not, we don’t need Roxanne Quimby telling us what she thinks.  She has sealed her fate, and it is not going to be a national park.  She can damn well forget it.  What an obnoxious woman.  She made her fortune in Maine, but she is not welcome here anymore.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t even live in Maine, so why are you worried about someone speaking for Mainers?

  • Anonymous

    And I thought all this time we lived in the 1700′s.

  • Anonymous

    Excuse me? did I write something “between the lines ” that i didn’t see?  Your comment has nothing to do with what I posted.
    As I said, I have been 100% for the NP up until I took some time to research her.
    The park would work, and people would come.
    But she opened her mouth, and not in “smart and business loving” way. She has sealed her fate. Bet she’s kicking herself today……

  • Anonymous

     Let me guess-  you’re either from Southern Maine or not from Maine at all.

  • Anonymous

    That is exactly what she does not want. She barely wants you walking on the land

  • Anonymous

    Maybe true, where  did she move Burts bee’s before she sold it?

  • Anonymous

    Fifty three percent of the people who took the poll agree with her assessment of Maine.  Forty six percent disagreed.  I suspect the 46% who voted no on the poll represent the percentage of Maine people who receive welfare.

  • Anonymous

    Move the business South like she did.

  • Anonymous

    The actual point I was trying to make is that virgin timber is a relative term.  The state is currently much more forested than it has been in the past.  I would venture to say that truly virgin timber hasn’t existed in the state in quite some time.  Even those enormous trees that were cut years ago may not have been as pristine as people think in a constantly changing landscape.

  • Anonymous

    Nice job Roxanne.Those who are already opposed now have new ammo and those who might’ve been in favor now may take a second look.If you can show me a state that doesn’t have obesity or drug problems,I’d like to see it.Doesn’t exist.She was born in Lexington MASS.-a wealthy community.Must be nice to be able to throw stones after you got rich.
    And keep in mind the interview is in Forbes.Steve Forbes,the failed candidate hates real Americans,so no surprise he would softball someone who thinks like him.What next,Linda Bean?

  • me in me

    fuel?  fire?? kinda like the sound of that.

  • Anonymous

    I spent a day at the Fryberg Fair this week. I have never seen so many obese seniors and young people in my life! Parents needs to turn off the computers in their homes and force their kids to exercise and eat better!

  • me in me

    Washington County is a small part of Maine.  This hardly represents the entire state. And it is hard to get off the welfare train if somebody buys up the land and dictates what can be done with it ( just because she can).    If you are agreeing with quimby, then your as much a part of the problem as she is.

  • Anonymous

    And maybe the reason that ad campaign is no longer used is because we have one fat and fat-headed governor.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

    Why do you not want another park. How will that effect you?

  • Anonymous

    OK – so now I’m posting an appropriate comment for a 3rd time, because people who disagree with my opinion are flagging it as inappropriate.

    Nothing that Ms. Quimby is not true.  The population in Maine is older, fatter and poorer than other States.  Those are facts.  I’m sorry if people don’t like hearing them, but that does not make them true. 

    BDN – you need to find a way for people to have an opinion without being flagged by a few unhappy campers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

    Oh Roxanne….did no one ever tell you that the truth pisses people off? BTW, I am old, fat, and live on social security. When I resided in my beloved state of Maine, so were most of the people I knew. You can call her whatever you want, but you cannot say she is wrong.

  • Anonymous

    I think she left out four-eyed & buck toothed in her name calling? The snowmobile Pen Pal/letter writing campaign must have been a bust. (pssst: bribes are supposed to be secret!)

  • Anonymous

    I am pretty sure that Roxanne and Bee man lived on bath salts and LSD. Plus lots of coffee brandy.  Sure.

  • Anonymous

    Its a fact that Maine has the most aged population in the country. You know why? Because the young folks have to leave to get work and further themselves.  No opportunities for them, especially anywhere north of Augusta.  Its sad but its true.

  • TeaParty_aka_AmericanTaliban

    You either spent your whole life in Portland area or you moved to Maine from another state.  

  • Anonymous

    The government can barely keep itself running.. Trillions of dollars in the Debt.. Other National parks have limited hours and cut backs in the budgets…. Where the hell is the money going to come from for another Park… They cannot take care of what they have now…. I am sure Roxanne is not going to foot the bill……

  • Anonymous

    I think Roxanne Quimby means well. Certainly no one can accuse her of not being willing to put her money where her mouth is by her willingness to give away a huge swat of forest land paid for and owned by her to the public.

    Mainers however are rightfully leery about having a large portion of their forests they depend upon for a living taken away from private use for preservation. It would seem to me both aims of preservation and use can and ought to be accomplished. The statement by co-owner of Lincoln Paper and Tissue LLC Keith Van Scotter  that “logging is managed very well” in the state is highly doubtful. There are still way too many washouts caused by logging operations that wastes productive soils and cause widespread flooding and flood damage. While I am not an advocate of more and more regulations, smarter regulations and better incentives are needed to encourage loggers to become better stewards of the forests. With that, maybe Ms Quimby and all concerned could come up with a better idea on how to maintain the forests for continued and sustained production with little or no environmental impact.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    Meanwhile, you live where, now?

  • Anonymous

    Don’ forget her donation to the Conservation Lawyer that didn’t work to stop the sale of the mills.  I’m thinkng she needs a lot of rehab at an anger management clinic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    Better actual obesity than mental obesity, any day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    No – that’s what Quimby wants us to do.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t like Roxanne Quimby or what she wants to do with her land.  However, she’s not wrong about one thing:  Maine is full of fat, poor people.

    Where else do you see fat poor people?  Go watch one of those Christian Children’s Fund commercials.  Everyone weighs 80 pounds.  In Maine, poor people weigh 280 pounds, have cable, cell phones and too much coffee brandy for both hands.

    Roxanne isn’t the answer, but she’s speaking the truth on this one.  Kinda sucks.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    I just think it’s hilarious she’s complaining about Maine being a welfare state, when she exported all the Burt’s Bees jobs to another state with more favorable tax and business regulations.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1628932330 Naran Row-Spaulding

    YaWn….. please repeat as needed.
    Thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/noway90 Dave B.

    Funny thing is you just proved the point being made here. The numbers may be a little off but why does that even matter? If the state is spending way to much money of social programs we can’t afford, then they must go. If people would have jobs and pay their own way in life and stop looking for others to do it, just think of the taxes that would be raised by this. Time for Maine to end this welfare state and teach people that working not dependency is how a free republic works. I’m not sure you have noticed but the country is going bankrupt and China is getting rich off our children’s future.

  • Anonymous

    Why won’t anyone interview the ______ that sold her the land in the first place? All the recent ones that knew what she was up to. . and contributed to it?  About time the citizens of the Katahdin Region and the State look at the names on those deeds, and STOP doing business with them.  Not many of us would walk in Rite Aid and buy a Burt’s Bee’s product.  Then I say it’s time to do the same to those selling her land. 

  • Anonymous

    Maine is a welfare state whether or not you chose to believe it or not.  Just look in the Bangor area, how many social service agencies do we have?  They all go hand in hand.  We are full of Banks, Car Dealerships, restraunts, cell phone companies, and few local businesses but take a look at all the social service agencies we have just in Bangor.  If this doesn’t tell you that we are not a welfare state then look again.  We have people from all over coming to Maine especially Bangor because we have a “good welfare system”.

  • Anonymous

    I’d say that Ms. Quimby wants to nanny us. Slim us down, get us back working, stop the boozing, drugging, smoking and being stupid. She believes we need help with this and wants to share her financial resources to help us achieve all this. This is nice of her to want to do all this but I can’t help but wonder “why”?

  • Anonymous

    You can buy them.I’ve seen them at Common Ground Fair for at least two years.Every Mainer should have one.

  • Anonymous

    I am very confortable with my wealth but thanks for the concern.  Just pointing out that she seems to be unconfortable with the majority of the residents of Maine.  I prefer hobnobbing on the Gulf Coast of Florida.

  • Anonymous

         If any of the “concerned” commentors happened to read the article in Forbes they’d see that the statement made wasn’t playing down the people of Maine, but reflecting how Ms. Quimby and most citizens feel about many in Maine.
         Maine may not have the heaviest citizens, but “only” the 29th heaviest citizens.
         Maine is also 34th in per capita income with $19,367. Maine also receives $1,936 in Federal aid to state and local governments, placing it at eleven.
         Finally, Maine students rank last in the country for SAT scores. The District of Columbia does rank a bit lower.
         The fact is that Maine is a poor state and the anti-park people will twist anything to further their agenda. 

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be stupid.

  • Anonymous

    I travel quite a bit and have not found that to be the overwhelming opinion.  Does saying that make you feel superior? :-)

  • Anonymous

    The lowest SAT scores tells it all. Daaaaaa.

  • Anonymous

    People on welfare, and those that  are squeezing every dollar  to make ends meet, can’t afford foods that are healthy, and nutritious. They buy and eat  snacks, soda, pasta and other fattening foods. Fruits and vegetables in the produce dept. are expensive. The fast food industry hasn’t helped keeping people slim and healthy either. The obese are not entirely to blame for the problem, their circumstances share  in part as well. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FF3XN5UJTWLOU5UUFOEVL2PWCU Donna

    THERE’S LOTS OF PEOPLE CROSSING THE BORDER FOR FREEBIES FROM THE GREAT STATE OF MAINE…….  LET’S STOP THAT, AND GIVE TO MAINE PEOPLE WHAT’S RIGHTFULLY THEIRS!  THERE’S PLENTY OF OLD AND FAT TO GO AROUND IN EVERY STATE IN THIS UNION, NOT JUST MAINE…..  DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE TO SAY ABOUT THE STATE OF MAINE ROXANNE????  DID YOU BUY UP SOME PRECIOUS MAINE LAND????  HOPE YOU DO GIVE IT BACK FREE AS A PARK OR WHATEVER……………

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JSSXKGI57ZI5GKTLPKZCQK6A4E Dude

    I see a lot of nasty comments about Roxanna Quimby. Makes you wonder why the State of Maine has trouble attracting business and jobs with such an “outgoing” attitude. Lol …doesn’t really matter anyway….She has BIG bucks and WILL win in the end, so all the whining is for nothing. All you need is a Mainer with a few hundred million that can stop her…..LOL ! Flag away !

  • Culturally Damaged

    …and that’s a bad thing?  It would be truly damnable to live in a nation as rich as our own and not take care of our most needy citizens.  I know many hardworking families and seniors who just can’t cut it without the help of “welfare”, so that we may all “fare well” in America.  Is there a problem with that?  Or have we reduced ourselves as a nation to an “I’ve got mine so **** everyone else” attitude?

  • Anonymous

    My husband and I worked hard all our lives.  We have paid our own ways.  I am not ashamed that we are considered elderly and we should be ashamed that we are on social securtiy that we have paid in for many years.  What happened to respecting the elderly and revering them.  She will get old also some time. Even her money can’t help her with that and apprently if she uses Burt’s Bee’s products by the looks of it , it is not helping her.  This is a disgusting old shrew.

  • Anonymous

    Well Ms. Quimby….I hate to say this but I am not a “Welfare Bum” I live and work in Maine and have a family to. I pay house payments and everything else just like alot of the people who live around me oh and we live in the penobscot area. I have lived in Maine since I was 12 yrs old and everyone in my family has worked and paid for their way of life. I have never been on welfare and I hope to never go on it but when a family looses their jobs all of a sudden they have to go on welfare to get the help to get another job. Living on welfare doesnt make you a bad person. Not everyone is a greedy person like you Ms. Quimby and everything I have read about you, you arent the perfect person either.

  • Anonymous

    What she said is mostly correct, and not something people in Maine don’t already know.  But, in light of her reputation to date in the state, her comments only intensify the hatred for the woman.

  • Anonymous

    She dont appear to me all that thin herself…arent those jowels I see on both sides of her mouth?

  • Anonymous

    These are not things Mainers already know.  However, in light of her reputation to date, it is now even more tarnished.

  • Anonymous

    I meant to say “These are not things Mainers already don’t know”

  • Culturally Damaged

    A Couple of Ways for Maine to Improve herself…
    1.) Fewer dollars spent on basketball trips/uniforms/awards for everyone ….more dollars spent on vocational education in our schools.
    2.) Get rid of the us/them mindset regarding who real Mainers are.  Last I knew, we live in a country where we can all decide where we’re gonna live.  This works both ways.  If our kids find better opportunites elsewhere, I’m happy that their new home states don’t treat and view them the same as we treat those from away.
    Just saying….. 

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, there is a lot of truth to what Ms. Quimby says.  Too many years of liberals & progressives in charge; taxes too high; unfriendly to business for years.  If there are no jobs, then people sit around waiting to collect that welfare check.  There also seem to be too many Mainers who are not interested in finishing high school, let alone going on to college or a trade school.  That too has to change.

  • Anonymous

    really? I don’t want one. Why don’t you make some money and buy your own land?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you should visit the one in acadia, you might not be so fat and grumpy

  • Anonymous

    Maine is a welfare state, let’s face it.  50 years of democrats makes any state a welfare state.  The freebies kill the recipients eventually.  Maine’s future looks a lot like Detroit.  An economic wasteland … and poverty for all.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_77PPY2GHJERXL74KODFG5AEXKE Rick

    Wow! She’s got the nerve. So Maine is 7.6% and the national average is 9.1% and we are the welfare state? What a crock! I agree BAN ROXANNE!~ What a complete Idiot! Thats the way to gain the support of our state, insult us all. Stand on a scale Roxanne, I bet your EGO weighs more than us all! IGNORANCE!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_77PPY2GHJERXL74KODFG5AEXKE Rick

    She’s just a dirty ignorant person playing the people of this state. She  should stand on a scale, as I said before, her EGO weighs more than all of us combined. BAN ROXANNE! I like it. Lets make a bumpah stickah!

  • Anonymous

    I want a park. The only reason why I would visit millinocket 

  • Anonymous

    Factories that can’t compete with other countries? There’s a reason why there are almost zero factories anymore in the state….Unless the workers don’t mind $3 a hour.

  • Anonymous

    ever been to a national park?  They employ alot of people.

  • EB

    She’s right about everything! I can say from people I know,
    the child welfare system gets abused immensely. I can see if these teeny
    boppers have one kid I guess but to go on and have another one without a job is
    ridiculous. That means us tax payers have to work twice as hard for you. Also,
    my feeling is if you don’t pay taxes you have no right to vote! In addition to
    that, welfare should not just be a free hand out. Make people work community
    service hours! When speaking of these mills, there are unionized employees who
    won’t even take a pay cut if the company is in a rut. Mill workers would rather
    lose their jobs than to do that. I’d rather take a pay cut than have no income.
    Beats saying I take money from others who are out there working hard to get by.

  • Anonymous

    “Local control dies hard, even in the face of economic disaster.”

    As it should. It is in our state’s constitution.

  • Anonymous

    Hassenpheffer, this is off topic but I thought you may be interested in seeing this. This was on C-SPAN last weekend and I thought of my BDN message board pal. It is a video of a  WSJ reporter, Ellen Schultz, giving a lecture on her book called the Retirement Heist and is worth a watch. It sounded pretty fitting to your situation which you have stated in prior posts. If you haven’t seen this have some stress relievers on standby. Take care.

    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Heist 

  • Anonymous

    belowmymeans, I agree, you can think of very few states.

  • Anonymous

    Again, Naran….have you been to a national park besides Acadia?  Many of the most popular parks don’t have the ocean either.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L37BUQ5VYCNS3BMRPVKO67FKDI Mary

    She is only after her own self interest and don’ t like when other people express opposing view, if she doesn’t like it here, move she can afford to no problems

  • Culturally Damaged

    How very self-righteous of you to tell anyone to go “home”.  Thank goodness we live in a country where we can still choose where we live.  Which reminds me of all of those other “Mainers” who lost their “Home” to white colonizers, you know the one’s you’re proud to be descended from.  They we land-grabbing greedy guts too.  Now talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

  • Culturally Damaged

    “Ours”  meaning the descendents of the original land grabbing, colonizing greedy guts?  Perspective sure does change things.

  • Anonymous

    Shove it Roxanne & go back South with 2 other Southerners under your arms.

  • Anonymous

    We are an aging, obese, welfare based state. We have high drug usage, both illegal and prescription. We have few jobs and what we do have don’t pay enough to put a roof over most people’s heads.  And now Millinocket is planning to fund their school system with CHINESE STUDENTS.  I hate to say it folks but Quimby might be onto something.  (afterall there is a mainecare program by the same name)

  • Anonymous

    If that isn’t calling the kettle black….!

    So Quimby isn’t getting her way and now wants to describe us as penniless fat old farts.

    Roxanne— except for being as rich as you are, exactly “who” is the fat ooold fart..?

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    Ban Roxanne

  • Anonymous

    So let’s turn off the welfare and send them and Quimby south of the border

  • Anonymous

    LePage is making welfare harder and we need to do the same for Quimby

  • Anonymous

    You got one thing right, we “will” see who wins in the end….!

  • Anonymous

    She is wrong,,,, there I said it

    She is also a lot of other things, but because she opened her big mouth and said it- She is the one that is a Fat Old Fart

  • Anonymous

    But which party will she haunt

  • Shiretowner

    Heh! As a stay at home mom, I -personally- don’t pay taxes into the system; my husband does since he is gainfully employed. Under YOUR philosophy it means I would lose my right to vote. Back to the stoneage with you caveman carl. Roxanne isn’t in Maine for the Maine residents who have lived, worked, and sweat day to day – she is there for Roxanne.

  • Anonymous

    Then why does Quimby do it….

  • Shiretowner

    And the pro-park people will twist everything in an effort to further their own agenda, mindlessly following this very shrewd individual around hoping that she has been above board with equally blind faith. She is going to have the last laugh, don’t you worry. I hope those of you who support her don’t do that whole teeth gnashing and wailing thing once she abandons you by the wayside.

  • Anonymous

    She also believes that there should be no private property ownership. Except of course her and the other elites who are smaahtah than the rest of us.
    He goal has always been to hand over all the land she’s been buying to the fed.
    And she sold 2 of her 3 Fl homes just before she started this all so we couldn’t point to her and ask about her multiple vacation homes.

  • yowsayowsa1

     But whay about the freaky parties?

  • Shiretowner

    Probably somewhere warm, I know that is where I am heading when I get too old to bust my back over a snow shovel. 

  • Anonymous

    Stop yelling.

  • Anonymous

    Very irresponsible statement, as many doctors would attest to.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWFPOA5XX4TUQDWSFMPMIAGTWY Carole

    Having lived in CT most of my life, I understand why they came in 49th. Your not allowed to be_______  or ______. Now of course we must drive only these types of cars (I once or twice parked in a place far away from a meeting I was attending so no one would see my older car) You must  live in the correct area of a town, city or even the state. You would never leave your home without makeup, nails done and a great looking pair of pressed jeans on the weekend. As far education I did not know a single person who did not have at least an undergraduate  college degree.

    Thank goodness I moved to Maine – ever place has it’s issues – it’s positives. I love Maine because I live close to the ocean. I love Maine the good, bad and the every in between.

  • Anonymous

    Did anyone ever stop to think that perhaps her motive in donating the land to the Govt. and turning it all into a State Park might be to preserve it and also take the responsibility of preserving it and the expense, TAXES, out of her hands?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t expect you to get the distinction, however…..people should not put down others. That said, Ms Quimbystated a fact when she spoke of the large obese population in this state (and large elderly population…….facts.)  She did not call “Norma Jones in Dexter” for example , ugly and fat. The poster got personal and targeted a specific person. There is a difference but you won’t see it.

  • Anonymous

    The reason the youth are fleeing is they want to get away from this nanny state and these tree huggers that are stifling growth not increasing it, Ban Roxanne.Bet ya thought no one would notice that article in Forbes magazine ,were not educated enough to read that stuff right Roxy? Thanks for shooting your self in the foot which was stuck in your mouth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWFPOA5XX4TUQDWSFMPMIAGTWY Carole

    If monies are coming either from a State or the Federal Government – we the people are paying for it. Many people have and I may be wrong  think that if you get monies from the Federal Government some else is picking up the tab. (this is how the United States got into such a big debt mess)

  • Anonymous

    Well Ms. Quimby….I hate to say this but I am not a “Welfare Bum” I live and work in Maine and have a family to. I pay house payments and everything else just like alot of the people who live around me oh and we live in the penobscot area. I have lived in Maine since I was 12 yrs old and everyone in my family has worked and paid for their way of life. I have never been on welfare and I hope to never go on it but when a family looses their jobs all of a sudden they have to go on welfare to get the help to get another job. Living on welfare doesnt make you a bad person.

  • Anonymous

    Attracting tourists is a way to bring outside dollars to Maine.  National Parks have a proven track record of doing just that, in a way that state parks just can’t match.  We should turn Baxter over to National Park Service, rename it Baxter National Park, and let Roxanne attach her parcel of land to it, enlarging it. People would flock there from all over the world.

  • Anonymous

    Isa that a double chin i see started there Roxy by the way your  showing the years too and your not a maina,which means your skewing your states obese and old survey not ours thankfully !

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure she wouldn’t want to be associated with those no-nothing malcontents.  I find it very amusing that so many people are so threatened by someone like Roxanne Quimby, who is practicing nothing more than standard run of the mill philanthropy.

  • Anonymous

    So do big corporations, my friend. Try not to forget, that government was devised in the first place as a way to protect people from the depredations of Big Business and other unelected tyrants…

  • Anonymous

    Does it seem odd to anyone that she used nature to become rich, so now she buys it up so that no one else can make money off it?

  • Anonymous

    Is that why the National Parks are in such poor shape, they bring in so much money? Is that why so many projects can not be done, because there is no money for them? Yea, wonderful job. Yea, and the Federal Government would take away more things in a National Park.

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    I’m trying to wrap my head around your way of thinking.
     
    So if someone that is one welfare was able to purchase land they would not need welfare?

    Would you enjoy others telling you how to use land that you paid for? I doubt you would. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    Well Carole,    the fact of the matter is this;……the feds, and state ARE going to spend the money, one way or another.   Either smallville Maine can try to get it  or the Bronx in NYC will grab it, either way, the money will be spent.   The big debt mess,  ???    how about a couple of 10 year wars?…..Afghanistan and Iraq?  one month’s of bombs would fund something back home for a couple of years!!

  • Anonymous

    Well that’s all right.  Once she’s done buying it up and creating her legacy, then she can write off her ‘contribution’ and we the taxpayers can all just shut up and pay for that too right?  Oh wait – she’ll provide ‘endowments”  Whatever. Good luck to her.  It’s her land she can do what she wants with it.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Roxanne Quimby will reap the  reward one would usually expect when one delivers straight talk to the thin skinned.    Mental hematomas notwithstanding;  there is no down side for her as she is excoriated on a regular basis  by this group of Quimby haters anyway.  She is addressing the open minded and looking for understanding from them.  It is nice to know she can deliver a punch .  She receives her share and then some.  No good deed goes unpunished, no extra charge for reflexive frenzy.

  • Anonymous

    I can see how skinney she is from her picture, God I can’t stand this self-rightious, demeaning, and god I can’t go on, she is just to screwed up to even comment on, I wish she and her land would just go away, for good! I just wish she would shut up!

  • Anonymous

    Are you kidding? This is straight up Tea Party platform…the poor are poor because they don’t want to work, the elderly need to do the decent thing and die soon, and everyone is just looking for a handout.

    Nothing liberal about it.

  • Anonymous

    Stir it up, Roxanne!  Get those thoughts flyin’.  I hope you get the National Park.  I’ll be there to drop some tourist dollars.

  • Anonymous

    gh

  • Anonymous

    and have teeth that aren’t rotten

  • Anonymous

    Could you give “specifics”?

  • Anonymous

    Respectfully, I don’t understand your term “gateway community.”  However, the national park proposal would not be the end all to other economic opportunities.  As for my town my friend, we have one tiny store and a school.  There are no businesses, no job opportunties.  I have to drive 25 miles one-way to my job.  I live in a very nice little community, however, I welcome businesses and believe they need to have every opportunity to grow and produce.  Any business is good for our repressed area.  Best regards. 

  • Anonymous

    Millinocket?

  • Anonymous

    National Parks are a treasure.  They bring in tourist dollars from all around the world.  Have you been to Acadia recently?  It’s booming- and beautiful.  Roxanne is shooting from the hip, stirring up lots of issues.  She’s no politic.  That is refreshing. 

  • Anonymous

    Just stop making crap up.

  • Anonymous

    We would all make money off of it- as a state.  She isn’t holding it closed, she’s opening it up to the tourist business.  She could just own the land and keep everyone off of it.

  • Anonymous

    Something wrong with making money and improving the economy?

  • Anonymous

    She didn’t blame the welfare recipients.  She pointed out the need for more resources.

  • EB

    The difference is some people rely on it for life. People who are perfectly capable of working if they get off their lazy asses. Welfare you must admit gets abused. Most people don’t understand like you and I that it’s meant for emergencies.

  • Anonymous

    The youth aren’t fleeing, they just can’t find work to keep them here.

  • Anonymous

    If they would just put in working culverts washouts wouldn’t be as much of a problem

  • Anonymous

    Blame Roxanne or another scapegoat.

  • Anonymous

    zero

  • Anonymous

    Where did this blatantly arrogant woman come from anyway? She’s even a bigger buffoon than our governor!

    She’s just lucky theres no snow on the ground or one of the many obese Maine senior citizens on oxycontin would have run her over with their snowmobile on the way to the welfare office!

    Smile!

  • Anonymous

    You are telling us a lot about yourself, and it isn’t pretty.

  • EB

    If your married and your spouse pays taxes I won’t even try to argue that one.

    I always hated granolas for the longest time. But I am starting to realize how precious
    our undeveloped land really is. I went to Chelmsford, MA not long ago. I’ve never seen anything like it! So congested, buildings everywhere, people everywhere…It’s quite an unpleasent sight. If your lucky to see a tree or a blade of grass you know damn well someone planted it there. I think we are very fortunate to live in such a beautiful state as Maine. If Roxanne feels she wants to preserve it for future generations to enjoy this land as we have I feel shes earned that right. She’s earned every penny from the ground up. Can’t say I’m not jealous but I give her a pat on the back. 

    This is to everyone, if you are angry with what she has done to regulate the land she has purchased, put some of the blame on the sellers. I’m not a real estate buff but they could have added a contingency in the contract, if sold, she is not allowed to force snowmobilers off the trails for example. If she doesn’t like it she doesn’t have to buy it. Thats my take on that…

  • EB

    I agree! Land is the greatest asset there is no question about it! I’d say our least greatest asset right now is the government. Glad a majority of our tax dollars goes to our great politicians! NOT! 

  • Anonymous

    so if you open a park in the woods whats there to see, by the time you get there that you have not seen on the way,are they going to give skidder rides?cause there will be no snowmobiles,four wheelers or motorized anything Then if it a nature trail there is plenty of those already in the state,so what kind of park will this be,tarred roads and parking lots?resturants to feed these millions of guest?hotels to house them?have you driven thru bar harbor lately? i think cutting down trees ever 30 years is a much better use of this property then parking lots,hotels,not to mention the infrastructer too support this kind of park,so before you vote for a park lady you should go to bar harbor,take a whale ride,eat three meals spend the weekend then ask your self where is your next roll of toilet paper coming from,LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    roxanne quimby is the steve jobs of maine     and you jealous people who love welfare  how about shutting up yourself   go kiss walmart arse

  • Anonymous

    and you must be christ

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TESS4LTERD7SDYZ6JF2FBGI6C4 Nnnnn Nnnn

    heres is what new hampshire thinks of Maine people:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0axuezQyzU

  • Anonymous

    I see you’ve dug out the Thesaurus red, all that reaping and sowing, mental bleeding, yadda, yadda. She is not addressing anything but instead voicing her frustration with us moronic, fat, welfare cheating troglodytes, by attempting to paint those who disagree with her “vision”, as backwoods morons too fat, lazy, and undeserving to live in such natural splendor. 
    Well, I’ve spent more than one afternoon cleaning up campsites and roadsides littered with the refuse of the enlightened ones who drive up here like Chevy Chase at the Grand Canyon, look around, throw their crap everywhere, leave fires unattended, used toilet paper just off the edge of the campsite, bottles, cans, cigarette butts, then drive off announcing loudly how the stupid locals can’t possibly appreciate the beauty around them.  If you noticed she doesn’t live here, has only been here a few times telling us idiots how lucky we are that she’s looking out for our financial future.  She may know how to make lip balm, but she certainly has a lot to learn about lip service.

  • Anonymous

    You are full of poop.

  • EB

    Just to be clear before I regret not saying it, you do know what “Married Filing Jointly” means correct? My hope is this is how you and your husband file on your taxes. If so, you do technically pay your dues according to the law. Your situation is why this exsits and for good reason! We need good moms to be there for their kids! Its essential.

  • Anonymous

    Then maybe she belongs in “silicon valley”? (Now that would be a good place to turn into a national park!)

    All you young computer geeks could go there and place your old keyboards, PCs and discarded cellphones on Steve Job’s grave!

    That would produce a media frenzy the likes of which has never been seen before! It would be all over the social media too!

    Just think of it!

    Maybe a few of the Japanese, Chinese and Indian sweatshops (that provide us with all that easy to understand internet support) could send their workers over on their vacations (once every every ten years or so) and spend a few bucks there too?

    That would help keep California dreamin at least!

  • Anonymous

    LOL…get a clue.  Where DID (and does) the money come from for welfare benefits, and war spending that WE voted for?  We are running trillion dollar deficits genius.  Why is it so hard for you, and many many others of your mindset, understand the simple concept that the central bank is exactly what allows the government to run deficits and acrue a national debt?  Without a central bank, it wouldn’t matter who we elected to congress because their expenditures would be limited to the revenue that their taxes brought in.

    And BTW, claiming that an opposition to a central bank is some type of “new bogeyman” is a rather amusing, and quite revealing, comment.  The founders of this nation, and many prominent figures since, were well aware of the societal dangers inherent in the implementation of a central bank.  Indeed, Andrew Jackson, the ”Father of the Democratic Party”, abolished the Second Bank of the United States in 1836 and ultimately paid off the national debt under his tenure.  It was the ONLY time the national debt has been paid off in U.S. history.  So if you care about eradicating the national debt and returning this nation to a sound financial footing, why would you be foolish enough to consider continuing on with a central bank when history clearly shows that only in its abandonment will we escape the current path of exponential debt expansion? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    Here’s one for ya    ……if there cannot be a middle ground somewhere, then she has a right to put a 20 foot tall chain linked fence around all of her property , obviously she can afford it, and no one gets to play.    What are we gonna be discussing  then?    bolt cutters?, no trespassing signs?,  court news?………there is a middle ground

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    I didn’t look at the link, don’t want to, because I DON’T CARE what New Hampshire people think of Maine people…..any more than I would care what New Mexico people think about us. Want to know what I think of New Hampshire people?

  • Anonymous

    National parks effect me (at least the ones given to the state by Quimby) by limiting their use.  She wants to ban snowmobiling on her land.  And before you say she has given snowmobiliers access; it was given with restrictions.  Snowmobiliers bring a lot of money to the state of Maine.  When you limit access, you limit the people coming to Maine.

  • Anonymous

    Those mill workers with one child under 18 will make exactly 500 more a month than they have made for the last 6 months and the cost of their out of pocket’s on that crap union insurance well exceed that 500 in one day! So, tell me exactly how the H they are better off working ?? Besides paying to support the rest of the State!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see how many likes I can get to get the Park Lover’s to print a list of ALL those who have sold her even a tenth of an acre of the 70,000 for the Park as well as all of it over by Milo and everywhere else!! Because as far as I’m concerned they should be ran out of the State right with her!!

  • Kevin_Of_Bangor

    Well my comment was flagged for review…

    I’m not surprised though.

    Truth hurts at times.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q255WQVJTDKGY5HNDL5ZUCDFQI Rusty

    I…..ummm…take it…that you ahh…..don’t own any significant amount of land…     Do some research.   I’m not defending her actions or her intentions, but what I am defending is her right to do with her land what she want’s to, just like any other land owner in this state.  If you own, I bet that you wouldn’t want your neighbor to start a manure processing plant.   It simply isn’t our land, nor is it a town’s or the state’s……it’s her’s..       get over it I’m not a “park lover”, but I do know what is the state’s biggest economic asset, and that is tourism. which includes hunting and fishing, like it or not, we are going to have to play ball here.

  • Anonymous

    Same to you, hater.

    Your mind is full of poop.

  • Anonymous

    Oh I just wish this and I just wish that.

  • Anonymous

    When we taxpayers get done paying for the Dolby Landfill, right?

  • Anonymous

    How did she get to be sure an expert on the affairs of the state?
    Maybe she cannot see the forest becauwse of the trees.

  • AionNV

    Yes, the nightmare of the tourism and industry and jobs all that mess brings is such a disaster for the region !

  • Anonymous

    Unreal.

  • Anonymous

    Whether one agrees with Ms. Quimby’s description of Maine’s people or not – is totally irrelevant. To make such comments shows the depth of her ignorance and the breadth of her arrogance. She may have a lot of money, and she may be able to buy lots of land, but she will never be remembered for her noble character. Shoving people around and belittling a population are not qualities that create friendship.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7R5NMJPXXBYMQOARXOXTXITOLA No Name

    DENIAL

    that is a psychological mechanism in every one’s brain that prevents a person from accepting the truth. roxanne quimby told the obvious truth about maine, if you want to make fun of her? your DENIAL is working in your brain

  • Anonymous

    As I said in an earlier post, a national park in the middle of nowhere will not attract the diversity that she claims.   My home state contains the most visited national park in the United States, the Great Smoky Mountain National Park.  The jobs created there are low paying, service industry jobs.  After construction takes place, the strip malls will be close behind.  Property values will skyrocket, and the tax increase will drive the present owners out.  It’s plain and simple.  Google “Pigeon Forge Tennessee” if you want to see the quality of life that the park will bring.   Traffic jams 15 miles long are the norm for a warm sunny day.

    Don’t be deceived by all the hoopla about it being an area those who care want to come to.  Who will come will be developers who build hundreds of houses for seasonal rentals, that are priced to keep the locals out.   The strip malls, and the outlet stores will pop up like mushrooms.  None of the permanent jobs will pay for a good life.

     As far as I am concerned, the idea of a national park sounds good, but the reality of what it does to an area is something that just has to be seen, and not talked about.  Google jobs in areas where national parks are located.  Even the concessions will go out to bid and be snapped up by national corporations.   Don’t even think that Mainers will gain from having any association with this.

    Personally, I was shocked that the poll said most people agree with Roxy, that Maine was a welfare state.  It looks to me as if any large state has a lot of open land it is on the list found in the link.

    END of RANT.

  • Anonymous

    Wow….the man faced uni brow shouldnt  throw stones.

  • Anonymous

     Sell the crazy woman nothing

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunate comment without a doubt that didn’t need to be uttered by Roxanne Quimby. It added nothing to what was a fine article in Forbes magazine. She obviously angered a lot of people and gave her detractors another reason to despise her.

    That said, she was right on the money. Even LeRage believes we are a welfare state. The CDC and Maine’s DHHS have spent millions in advertising campaigns and programs to combat Maine’s extremely high incidence of obesity.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOT6D3WPE37NQ6XY733XX355BQ E A

    I’m willing to bet verbal abuse gets her what she wants in her own household, though I dare say it rarely works in politics! This is a very immature tactic. Is it just me, or does it seem as though she thinks she’s gods gift to Maine, therefore any tirades are perfectly acceptable?

  • Anonymous

    How will it bring all this money by going to a park?????? People coming to a park in northern maine are NOT going to spend money locally. They wont stay in hotels, they will sleep in nature under the stars, they wont buy food locally, they will bring there own natural trailmix from. They will might have to put gas in there subaru outback, but im shure they will gat by till they get down state on the way back to their summer cottage down state…….

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne is right, of course…Maine IS a welfare state, despite what the naysayers might wish, otherwise.  

  • Carol Michaud

    Roxanne Quimby has enough money and enough connections to bring the economy of many areas of Maine up to standards by helping with small business development, further education and establishing affordable housing when necessary -if she was really concerned about the Maine economy.  It appears that the leopard  has not changed her spots-still blaming those with fewer support systems instead of doing something substantial to make a difference.

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne is correct.  Maine IS a welfare state.   She is also correct in stating that the forests have been ravaged by machinery and overharvesting.  A total shame, really and worse, the paper companies are gone and the ones left behind are the ones who still yearn for the good old days of big wages and toys for roaming the woods and fishing the streams.  Those days are over…and Roxanne knows it.

  • John Eastman

    We have become a fast paced nation. Wanting everything now. So we get in our cars and go, eat fast- food, or sit home watching the flat screen and lack exercise. Look at the stats from the medical world. They have been telling us for years we are over-weight. So we all should look in the mirror and see what is being said. In 25yrs. when this is all long done we will be thanking her for the jobs this will have created. People said the same thing with other parks. Go look and see how prosperous the surrounding entrances to National Parks are. CHANGE IS GOOD!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    So let me see if i am getting this right……. Its her land and she can do what she wants with!!  Oh Ok I get it…. Like we haven’t heard that.  Everyone understands that but dont make you and I pay for it!

    NO PARK for ME

  • Anonymous

    The Forbes article was an intelligent presentation. The BDN, in characteristic fashion, removed the logic of Quimby’s argument and added nothing of its own. The BDN has again become the terrible inarticulate newspaper that it was in the 1950s.

  • John Eastman

    Most people won’t get out and walk the parks. Our society has become LAZY. Sit home in front of t.v. computer or video games. Maine is a welfare state. Look around and in the mirror. 

  • Anonymous

    different types of people…..

  • John Eastman

    They sure would. But then what happens to those in Millinockett who don’t want this? Their town council? OH no. They might loose money from tourists going to other towns to stay.

  • Anonymous

    (1)   It’s her property and it’s her right to allow or deny use of it by snowmobiles and ATV’s.
    (2)   If she wants to DONATE her property to the Federal Government for a national park, you got a problem with that?   Sheesh.

  • Anonymous

     Please, you need to read a little more and listen a little less, Mr. Know it all. Especially since you think the Federal Reserve does anything but carry out the policies of whatever admin. is in power. They answer to Congress, and Congress can rein them in when they want to.

    You make it sound like we can’t run a deficit without a central bank, i.e., the Federal Reserve Bank. Where do you get that idea? Is this also something you heard on the radio from one of your saints and you never bothered to check it out? Sorry to tell you, the government ran deficits for years without the Fed, Reserve or any central bank. Check out the years from the 1830s until about 1913. The Civil War caused massive debt and there was no central bank. Please explain that and make it mesh with your gifted statements.

    So the founders were so afraid of a central bank that they set one up with a sunset provision. (Yes, that is the real story.) Andrew Jackson was not a founding father,  but Alexander Hamilton was, and he set up a National Bank.

    Eliminating the National Debt will not go any faster with or without the Federal Reserve. Congress has oversight and can change their mandate tomorrow.

    And by the way, genius-NOT, the money that pays for welfare and war is appropriated by the House of Representatives. ALL the money bills have to originate there. Not the Senate, not the President. Read your U.S. Constitution and get back to me when there is a little light that goes on.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJQKFIBPEJ4G3YJTMPPQC25MFI David

    I believe Roxanne is also planning on leaving a large amount of money for it’s upkeep.

  • Anonymous

    I took sometime today and read the article on Forbes, one should perhaps read that article first before commenting..  This article is in reaction to another and is some interpretations.  I still believe that she is telling the truth, and that the reality is the donation of the land will do the area good. 

  • Anonymous

    Seems like BDN is trouble making.

  • Anonymous

    What kind of a stupid hillbilly are you?

  • Anonymous

    Use the flag button, I did.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, money generated for restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, gas, housing, to increase the tax base of Maine, help support the schools and the infrastructure of the region.  It’s a bigger picture than the one you are seeing.  I’ll bet Bar Harbor brings in lots of money for the state and for the region.  We are talking about a mere 70,000 acres here- and 30,00 designated for state recreation use, if I understand it correctly.  We cut trees in the industry, they grow back, we cut them again  Nothing wrong with that.  Plenty of toilet paper for everybody.  But, once you cut the “wilderness” out of the woods, it is changed forever.  What’s wrong with designating sections of wilderness for the joy of those who appreciate it?  More and more of these people have money  to spend and will spend it. 

  • Anonymous

    I agree, culverts and diversion ditches would be of immense help. Controlled cutting practices put to greater use would help too. But how do we get loggers to comply without burdening them with too much regulation? For one, we can start by educating land owners themselves of the need to protect their assets for themselves and posterity.  

  • Anonymous

    What I see is a rich old fat fart that is using her liberal mussel and money to buy her own immortalized legacy.

  • Anonymous

    Stopfear, sorry to hear about your son’s troubles. Times are tough and employers, at the moment, hold all  the cards and have lots of choices amongst the unemployed. Hope your son and your situation improves. From your description, he sounds like a bright and hard working young man, good things are bound to happen for him, don’t lose faith. Best wishes.

  • Anonymous

    for Semloh-Holmes    What a great time for fair taxes, now that they have taken advantage for
    over 10 years.  And we may be talking “fair and balanced” when you say
    “Obama’s stimulus”.  We had been borrowing from the Communist long
    before Obama. “W” sunk the ship, what would you have the currant
    administration do.  “Hope and Change” is under the strangle hold of the
    “party of NO”, where even our once left-leaning Republican Maine
    Senator’s are voting against reason. 

    You wrote, “What about the millions of people that abuse and defraud our welfare system”. 

    “Millions”?  Do you have any idea what a lofty exaggeration that is? 
    That is yet another unrealistic generalization forced into your head by
    your friendly propaganda news station and its repeat on conservative
    radio.  If you repeat it enough, you might think its true, but it
    doesn’t make it so.  I assure you, if you think that someone “takes
    advantage” of living in poverty, you are further out of touch than I
    care to imagine.

    Personally, I purpose that first, we all turn off “corporate news”
    stations.  All of them.  Corporate news only reports what corporations
    want you to think, they pepper that with commercials from corporations,
    and you end up with a nation divided on two political parties that are
    both up to their necks in corruption.  Corrupted by who?  The
    corporations.  Don’t get me wrong, not every elected representative is
    corrupt, but to get the re-election funds they need to beat the other
    corporation corrupted candidate, they too have to sell out to money.

    Take money out of politics.  If you want to represent your state, your
    pay will be based on the average income of those in your state.  From”
    the millions of people taking advantage” of their poverty to the 10 or
    so millionaires.  The Median household income in Maine(2009) was
    $45,700, and the United States average $50,000.  Senators,
    Representatives, Judges, and President, along with all other high
    positions in the federal government should get no more than the median
    household income.  If they can raise the median, they can get a raise
    themselves.(Rather than voting in their own raises)

    No corporate lobbying, No corporate donations to politicians, equal
    election campaign amounts, so that you too Holmes can be elected with
    your ideas, and not have to be the corporations personal hand puppet.

    I can go on and on with you but I don’t have time.  It has been
    therapeutic to whack the ball back and forth over the net that divides
    us.  Neither of us put that net there, and its a shame that we allow it
    to keep us apart.  I am coming up to the net to shake your hand a say
    good match.  I will read your final serve, but I won’t return the serve.

    Whatever you have to say, it will not discount that you and I are in the same boat, and

    WE   ARE   THE   99%.

  • Anonymous

    I am neither a Democrat nor Republican, but have seen aplenty of liberal ideology emblazoned on the “rear ends” of motor vehicles as well. Let’s be fair Joe! We Libertarians don’t stoop to such levels!

  • Anonymous

    and clams too

  • http://rightnetwork.com Jack Reno

    She needs to go deep, deep into the trackless woods with a power bar and a bong and beg the trees for votes.

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