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• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

  There’s a big ol’ Bank of America building in Belfast that could use some protesters…shady foreclosure practices…antitrust violations…laying off 30,000…$5 a month for just having their debit card??

  Occupy Belfast!

• Anonymous

  I think they need to make their demands much more concentrated and clear.  What exactly do they want to change specifically.  I don’t think lobbyists should have as much pull as they do either, but how do they want to end that?  Something simple like that would really help get the message home.

• Anonymous

  They are nothing more than “useful idiots” for the progressives, socialists & unions.  Take a good look at what our colleges are turning out & you might think twice about sending your child to be brainwashed by some of these liberal professors.

• Anonymous

  Too funny!  BOA isn’t charging anyone $5 a month who didn’t voluntarily get one of their debit cards. If you don’t like the fee, just switch to a bank that doesn’t charge one.  Of course, if you and a lot of similarly minded people cancel their BOA debit cards, BOA will need fewer employees so there will be even more layoffs and you can protest those too.

• kcjonez

  “We need to reclaim the ‘democracy’ by making it truly mean ‘voting by people’ not ‘voting by lobbyist dollars,’”   –Right on!  

  …….an end to “corporate personhood,”  
  –Corporate personhood needs to be relegated back to the myth pile from whence it came.  SCOTUS got that one wrong.  

  “We’re not waiting for a political savior.”  
  –Very smart!  

  I stand with these kids.  I hope they can tough it out and work together long enough to shine some light on their issues of concern.  Left/right, democrat/republican, rural/urban, working or not, these issues concern all of us.  Until we stand together and say no more government of the rich, for the rich and by the rich–things won’t change.  

• Anonymous

  Big ole Bank of America deserves any bad thing that happens to it, it deserves any reversal. That bank has not played fair with its many shady practices.

• Anonymous

  “This rhetoric of ‘shared sacrifice’ doesn’t sit well with us,” he
  continued. “We’ve already been sacrificed. It’s hard for us to go to
  school. It’s hard for a lot of us to find jobs.”

  Oh boo hoo, real life is just too hard so I guess I’ll become a professional protester. Ssomebody better tell him and his out of state friends that it’s also going to be hard to “occupy” downtown Portland once the snow starts falling!

• Anonymous

  Go young folk!  The powers that be are not listening.  Back in the day, I protested the VietNam debacle so I have some undersatanding of your efforts.    The powers that be were not listening then, they are not listening now.  Go Go Go!  Hold their toes to the fire!  Republican america does not care about you or your needs….why can’t you hold down 2 minimum wage jobs to pay off the bank debts that G. W. Bush signed off on?  Why can’t we fight another 2 or 3 endless wars that enriches arms manufacturers?  Cheney is a wealthy man because of war.  So is Dubya.  Ya, go get em!

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

  There are a bunch of movements to get the money out of politics. This is one.

  http://exchange.ydr.com/index.php?/topic/12293-movement-to-get-the-money-out-of-politics/

• Anonymous

  Last Friday I heard Demi Colby talking about getting ready for this event on the new morning show on Stephen King’s talk station. I hope the Occupy movement keeps the pressure up nationwide!  They are forcing conversation, discussion, and recognition of some key issues: corporate citizenship, bailout deals which forced US taxpayers to assume massive debt for the benefit of a very few, and an ever-encroaching police state. Way to go, Demi! Keep up the good work!

• Anonymous

  Yes, Bank of America has led the way giving home loans to illegal immigrants and funneling money going back to S. America without taxing it! We all pay 50% of every dollar to a state or federal tax or fee, so should these criminal aliens.

• Anonymous

  Public transportation infrastructure. Cool.

• Anonymous

  Who is signing Mr Rasmussens’s paycheck ? Protesting because they cant finish school or find a job Hmm sounds like the rest of us Pretty hard to find a job if your protesting

• Anonymous

  There’s nothing in the street
  Looks any different to me
  And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye

  And the parting on the left
  Is now the parting on the right
  And the beards have all grown longer overnight
  I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
  Take a bow for the new revolution
  Smile and grin at the change all around me
  Pick up my guitar and play
  Just like yesterday

  Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
  We don’t get fooled again

  Don’t get fooled again
  No, no!
  YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

  Meet the new boss
  Same as the old boss

      ~~~~~~ The Who

  http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Won%27t-Get-Fooled-Again-lyrics-The-Who/761EF79AAB42FA9C48256977002E72F9

• Anonymous

  tea party people and the occupier people have very much in common. both are disgusted with the corporate takeover of our country and government. the person who can bring these 2 sides together on the common issues will be powerful and popular.

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

  I remixed this song with Howard Dean doing the YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! part. Hilarious!

• Anonymous

  And you don’t think Dylan Ratigan isn’t part of the money grubbing game? 

  aaah, rewrite nice.

• Anonymous

  I take it you didn’t go to college….the typical conservative response in this day and age is to somehow suggest that getting a higher education is a bad thing.  Nothing will kill the US faster than an uneducated population. Like the saying goes, the world needs ditch diggers, but we also need thinkers.

• Anonymous

  Thanks Obama and the Dodd-Frank bill for all the $5 fees. It is their doing.

• Anonymous

  Hooray! Easy hippy chicks and silly drum music for everyone on Wall Street. Why do those suits always get all the fun?

• Anonymous

  That is clever…..

• Anonymous

  BOA took millions in TARP money at 0% interest, parked it in bonds at 3% interest, and let the taxpayers foot the bill on both ends!
  Then when TARP conditions would include a reduction in executive comensation, they gave the money back (minus the interest of course).
  Are you so foolish that you like being gamed?
  Or are you one of those who thinks their smart enough to game the system?
  The financial industry in this country is broken. By the end of this week you will see the DOW below 10000, as all of these vampires pull their money out of the game and cash out.
  You have seen nothing yet in terms of protests and civil disturbance.

• Anonymous

  To defend BOA you must either work there or be upset that their stock you own is down.  Seems like you spilled their real plan behind charging their customers more then when some of their customers  revolt to other banks BOA can use this as an excuse to justify laying off more people above the 30,000 already planned so the fat cats at the top can get even larger bonuses.

• Anonymous

  It’s reminiscent of the 1960′s sit ins. After a while, people moved on to other things and our  generation never did change the world…..for better or worse. I just hope this current movement isn’t a precursor of a revolution like what’s been happening in the  Middle East. Today’s Americans feel they have very little to lose and very disenfranchised from the old middle class values. That makes these very dangerous times.

• Anonymous

  What’s ironic about Bank of America, alot of their current money troubles were self inflicted, when they bought out CountryWide….20+ billion in fallout costs.
  I think it’s listed as one of the worst CEO decisions ever.

• Anonymous

  Any pull back in the Dow has more to do with the manufacturing downturn in China and American companies that have assets there. Also some economists are saying we are now in the first leg of a new recession that won’t be completely evident for another 6 months. I believe you think too much of yourself as young folks often do. Can’t blame you though. It is the nature of the beast.

• Anonymous

  I find your post very sad.  Maybe you don’t have a college education, I don’t know.  Either way, it is always unfathomable to hear someone knock a college education. Unreal.

• Anonymous

  Tell me did your protest make a difference. We shut down DC. I was at Dupont Circle. Made no difference. The only thing that will happen is that these kids will be co-opted by the left and used for their purpose. Don’t you remember?

• Anonymous

  It just shows how they they take care of their own first at any cost.

• Anonymous

  The taxpayers wont bail them out this time.
   

• Anonymous

  The corporate media feels their profits which are tied to their wall st  are threatened. This is the reason they are portraying the protesters of having no purpose.

• Anonymous

  No bailout necessary. What are you talking about?

• Anonymous

  What is the relationship between some posters here, The Occupy Maine folks and the Maine People Alliance?

• Anonymous

  You make me smile.

• Anonymous

  Ahhh the BDN finally gets its marching orders from the Soros funded Media Matters to start covering this story. How typical.

• Anonymous

  Too bad many of your posts could be found at the bottom of that ditch. Truly the liberal response would be that you should get an education in some unemployable degree like art and lit when conservatives realize this nation needs more degrees in engineering  and math.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  So when the Tea Party social movement is covered for bringing ten people to counter-protest a rally of hundreds in Augusta, it’s good journalism — but covering the Occupy Together movement is bad form. Gotcha.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  Yes, those pesky liberal professors, teaching me to question information that is given to me.

• Anonymous

  The wheels of class warfare are rolling, and Obama is in the driver’s seat. This is nothing more than a bus loaded with fools; pawns of the progressives. If Obama were a real President, he would speak up against this action. Instead, he is promoting civil disobedience, class envy, hatred and violence. I just hope this nation makes it until the next election. If it gets too bad, Obama will declare Marshall Law and declare himself dictator.

  Think I’m joking? Maybe.

• Anonymous

  They are one and the same.

• Anonymous

  This Matth Mitchell kid, one of the quotes on his facebook page is, “capitalism is a tasty poison.”

  If these kids aren’t socialists and communists, I don’t know what is.

• Anonymous

  I remember clearly. There was violence associated with what we did. It started with things like the Days of Rage and evolved to things like the Madison Bombing and Bill Ayers and the Pentagon bombing. The difference is we protested against an establishment and there were clearly two sides. Today we have the left, the right and the government controlled by the both the left and the right. Our country is divided as it never has been before. The man in the White House is responsible for that. If things go much farther extreme violence is possible.

• Anonymous

  Are you calling for rule by the proletariat?  Just asking for clarification.

• Anonymous

  How many of you would be interested in getting a gathering together here in Bangor to show unity with the rest of the protesters across the U.S.??

• Anonymous

  I didn’t comment on the way TARP money was handles and in fact find it just as reprehensible as you do. Read my post once again and you will see that I was commenting only on the connection between people cancelling their cards as a protest, and the impact that will have on the number of layoffs by BOA. How can you simultaneously protest a companies practices and try to hurt them and also criticize them for laying people off. If they have less customers, OF COURSE they will need less employees. So, if you want to run down BOA and hurt their business, at least be realistic enough to admit that it will also hurt their employees who inevitably get laid off as a result of your protest.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Harrington/100001511719533 Thomas Harrington

  I can’t make art with four square feet. My body occupies more space than that.

• kcjonez

  Technically, a democratic republic is rule by the proletariat.  Our system of elections has functionally been hijacked however, and until it is restored our system is more fascist(or oligarchic or plutocratic if the “f” word bothers you–same thing) than democratic and deteriorating fast.  I believe that is a large part of what these protesters are saying.  It would behoove us to listen.  

• Anonymous

  Nope, don’t work there and never have. I also don’t own their stock and never have. They also don’t need an excuse to lay people off, they can do it any time they want to. Losing your customers to your competitors is not an excuse to lay people off, it’s a very valid REASON to lay people off. If people cancel their cards as a result of this then BOA will need less employees to handle their decreasing numbers of customers. It’s not very fair to the people who work their and are honest and hard working and had nothing to do with BOA’s policy decisions, but it’s what happens in the real world. If you manage to drive business away from BOA and to one of their competitors, then they will lay people off and so would any other business in the world. Congratulations.

  Since you felt compelled to incorrectly speculate about my connection to BOA, let me tell you about it. I used to have a fair amount of money with them. I felt that it would be nice to have several accounts, from investments to everyday banking to savings to credit and debit cards all at one company that had a local branch I could visit and talk to a real human being when necessary. Shortly after I transferred much of my money into their bank, they promptly disbanded their investment department or at least the part where my money was.   So I transferred my money to another bank and now only have a very token amount or money with them. I never use my BOA debit card so my understanding is that I will not incur the $5 fee but if I get charged $5, I’ll simply use another debit card or open another debit card account, and THAT will be my only protest.  I also have a BOA credit card but always pay off the full amount on it every month so incur no charges. If they start charging me $5, I’ll close that account too. It’s just that simple. I also recently cancelled my Netflix account for similar reasons. They started charging a lot more for the services I was using, so I cancelled. Do I hate them or feel like protesting them? No. But I do disagree with their business practices so vote against them by moving my money elsewhere. I’m sure the small amounts of money I have are trivial to them, but at least I will know I’m not paying $60/year unnecessarily.  But life’s too short to get all worked  up about this. If you feel like ANY company is charging too much for their services, then I suggest that you chose to not do business with them and then forget about them. If a lot of their customers do that, then it will have a lot bigger impact on the fatcat BOA managers bonuses than any protest on the streets that you or others might take part in.

• Anonymous

  I wouldn’t worry too much about them. Most of them are just extreme liberals who don’t feel comfortable unless they are protesting SOMETHING, and very few of them have a gun or a clue how to use one if they did. They’re not dangerous,  just a minor inconvenience for commuting workers and businesses in the area of their protest.

• http://www.bangordailynews.com Bangor Daily News

  At the top of our website, right under the bar that takes you to different regions and topics, is a clickable link that says “Latest Poll.” If you click on that, it will take you to all stories that have a poll attached, with the most recent being listed first.

• Anonymous

  “We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy. [...] Do you think the millionaire ought to pay more in taxes than the bus driver or less?” — Ronald Reagan, 1985

  By today’s standards, Reagan would be accused of engaging in class warfare and being a socialist. 

• Anonymous

  Sounds like you’re making extreme assumptions. 

• Anonymous

  Bunch of losers without a clue.

• Anonymous

  The loopholes need to be eliminated. Trouble is, the vast majority of the loopholes were put in place by those in Congress to protect their donors and set up wealth for themselves. And now, many of these same lawmakers are blaming the very people that gave them the power in the first place. Seems hypocritical, but it’s just a part of their game. It’s all a ruse.

  Until the progressives are out of DC, nothing is going to change.

• Anonymous

  Is that all you have? Name calling?

• Anonymous

  If Obama is engaging in class warfare, so was Reagan. 

• Anonymous

  No, it’s not all I have. But it is all I need.

• Anonymous

  I watched MSNBC tonight, you get your talking points from their talking heads.

  I’ve got news for you – you’re being deceived.

• Anonymous

  Sorry sweetie, don’t have cable. 

  The hypocrisy of the right with their “class warfare” meme is blatantly obvious. And please, could you respond to the comment instead of derailing?

• Anonymous

  They were finding ways to increase fees long before Dodd-Frank. This isn’t because they can’t charge retailers more, it’s because they’re having to eat all those bad mortgages and it’s killing their bottom line, or so they say…

• Anonymous

  BOA is already laying off 30,000 employees. BOA will get the last laugh if their customers move their accounts, because soon all the other large banks will follow suit and the fees will become standard practice, just like the ATM and checking account fees.

• Anonymous

  What? Do all the conservatives go to college overseas?

• Anonymous

  All but two years in the last decade saw Washington under one party rule, and we’ve seen the results. The government is supposed to represent all the people of this country, not just a certain ideology. When we become a government of one ideology, we cease to be a democracy.

• http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

  “Occupying” Maine to protest corporate hegemony is like having a tailgate party in your driveway on game day.  Well-intentioned, but sort of missing the point, geographically.

• Anonymous

  Cheeseball, these kids are protesting about what I keep trying to get through your head. You can get it now or get it later. Knock yourself out and go crying to Mamma. I already have this thing planned including all possible responses. Ditch the Tea Partiers. If  you are not for the American People, you are against us.

• Anonymous

  I’m suing them for a quarter of a million dollars for a variety of negligence per se issues and they act as numb in court as they do running their bank into the ground.

• Anonymous

  “tea party people and the occupier people have very much in common. both are disgusted with the corporate takeover of our country and government.”

  Carefully pull your head out of your rectum. OK, now Tea Party people ARE the corporate takeover of this country. How did you miss learning that one>???

• Anonymous

  Bad news Cheeseball, but before I say why, let me ask you one question, “How many times have you been dumped or divorced?” By the time you have an inkling you are already toast an nothing you do can change that. The bad news is, if even you have figured out we are headed for violence, it is definitely going to happen. Some of the blame goes to neanderthol Shitt stirrers like you. But most of it goes to the traitors in our Congress and at the state levels who gave up on America and Americans and let these American Taliban Tea Party Turdds take over the country.

• Anonymous

  Teenage Wasteland

• AionNV

  You never went to college, got it.

• AionNV

  Now all you do is sit around listening to talk radio and posting BS here about your favorite bogyman, “the left”.  What an improvement.

• AionNV

  Delusional and sad.  Seek help.

• AionNV

  Yes, you do need more than that to dismiss people who are risking jail time for their right to freely assemble and demand a redness of grievances.

  I think it’s cowardly of you.  Weasel-like, even.

• AionNV

  So you personally took part in the Pentagon bombing ?  Wow, what a creep.

• AionNV

  Here, here !

• AionNV

  And an extreme butt of himself.  As usual.

• AionNV

  If you have anything other than delusional remarks, you’d present it.  So far you just look like a tool.

• poormaniac

  Simply moving your money to another bank will not get the attention of the vote loving politicians. Protests work ! Please take time to see the documentary at http://www.insidejobfilm.com.

• Anonymous

  The tea party is the political arm of  the Koch Bros.

• poormaniac

  No I’m not !

• poormaniac

  He’s probably right though .

• Jazz11

  Ummm, the headline is far from the truth. You make it sound like they are supporting Wall Street, when in fact they are against the greed taking place while we pay for it.

• Anonymous

  If BOA and the other “too big to fail banks” disappeared tomorrow their customers would go to credit unions and community banks that care about their customers and employees and had no role in creating this economic disaster. With the increased business these smaller banks will have a need to hire more people thus hiring the people who have lost their jobs at other banks. The TARP bailout only delayed the inevitable and  their fraudulent practices will catch up with them again except this time the tax payers wont bail them out.

• Anonymous

  No, the stock market decline has to do with the reckless choices American banks continue to make, even after 2008. This time it is credit default swaps with European banks. You do not see Canadian banks tanking because their banks have regulations(oh my God,no! Regulations!). Citicorp and Bank of America are down 50%  this year Toronto Dominion is down about 8%.
    American bankers (of money center banks, not community banks) are nothing but greedy thieves who have bought Congress so even Frank Dodd is toothless in imposing regulations on the banks. They do not make their profits by lending. They make profits from fees, and trading derivatives and when the derivatives blow up, as they are about to again, they get bailed out. Except this time the American taxpayer may tell the bankers to get lost.
    That China may experience a slowdown, and maybe worse, is certainly an issue for the stock market. So is an American recession which is now likely to happen, with its consequences on unemployment and the budget deficit.
    IMO hopperdredgbill is right about protests and that in a couple of years the protests will be very violent as the frustration at income equality grows. This comes from someone who certainly cannot be characterized as “young folk”.

• dan

  It’s about time that some Americans take a stand. I have been wondering when this will happen – its been a long time in the making.

• Anonymous

  First of all you have never addressed me before. Secondly there is nothing new here.  Every authoritarian movement in history has started out looking like this. Since you are on the inside and should know, how far are we from re-education camps for those that disagree with you?

• Anonymous

  Bank of America is down because of the fall out from the Countrywide purchase. Other major US banks are down because of their connection to the European debt crisis.

• Anonymous

  Why when you disagree with someone do you or someone else pull out the “talk radio” or “Fox news”? I don’t watch or listen to either. My sense is you don’t understand someone that is conservative actually reads.

• Anonymous

  We were speaking generally of the generation.

• Anonymous

  So would that be a Dictatorship of the proletariat?

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J5XVHRZG3GXBWY3WX3ZZAPK5DQ Harry

  Capitalism is evil. Socialism is good. Where do these people get these ideas? Whoops I forgot. In our public schools and universities. The right place for all of these people is Cuba or Venezuela. What do you think would happen if you tried to “occupy” a spot in one of those countries or protest? Why don’t you head on down there and find out.

• Lisa Savage

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGQb-Sl3D8s   Interviews I did on Sat. in Portland. Articulate voices answer the question: Why are you here at #OccupyMaine?

• Anonymous

  The “point” is not to occupy Wall Street, not to live its life-style, not to tear it down, but to repave it. It’s in need of serious repair.

  These protests are unlike anything we’ve ever seen. They aren’t a “Lefty” thing or a “Righty” thing. Their purpose isn’t so easily defined or dismissed.

  The stewards of the wealth of a nation (the guardians of other people’s money) have mistaken their responsibilities. They are the agents, not the principals. Dealing for their own accounts is the betrayal of a national trust.

  Millions understand this. Thousands with a vested interest and abiding concern for our economic sustainability have taken to the streets to point it out in in a graphic but appropriate way. They come from all walks of life, they span all age groups, heritages and political persuasions.

  “Business and financial institutions,” they are saying, “should be people friendly, not the other way around.”

• Anonymous

  The Dow is fluctuating wildly as a result of uncertainty in the world economies, we are pointing our finger at the EU telling them to prop up their failing states, while they are telling us to get our house in order. The people are starting to realize that our “economy”, more particularly Wall Street, and the investment banks are a precariously balanced house of cards. Thank you for the compliment, I consider 44 yrs old young as well (although my kids think that’s terribly old!). You are as old as you choose to be.

• Anonymous

  You can’t be serious! After 38 years of employment I was laid off and am getting my college education now. All the professors get you to do is THINK! What wrong with that?
  All the corporations who moved their production off shore for cheaper labor, did the price of their product drop? It’s all about them!

• Anonymous

  Good one. Lol…those silly socialists, they always hide what they really want because they know people will reject it.

• Anonymous

  Sure. When will avowed liberals wake up and apologize for all the dumb ideas they have foisted on us all via the government programs and regulations? I won’t stay up late at night waiting for it.

• Anonymous

  When 700 of these fools are arrested in NYC in violent protest in an attempt to “take the Brooklyn Bridge” it gets nary a line from the presstitutes, but if the Tea Party were to use such methods the left and their allies in the press would claim it a violent revolution by race baiting white people.

• Anonymous

  Reread the headline.

• http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

  What are the noted similarities between what happened in Eypgt and this Occupy the-places-the-police-say-we-can-occupy-if-we-sell-some-art-and-sleep-under-the-awning-of-a-sympathic-business-0wner. Because I’m not seeing it. You guys don’t even have any cooperate zombies eating monopoly money. And you call yourself a protester?

• Anonymous

  More justified, IMHO, than the “social warfare” you hear many right wingers (most notably megalomaniacal  Glenn Beck) promoting. The left isn’t the only side declaring a coming “war”.

  I have to admit a distinct urge to roll my eyes at this sort of directionless, “the system sux!” protest. If we want to know why corporations wield so much power, we have to look at ourselves and question our worship at the alter of consumption. How many of these protesters come from privileged backgrounds? How many have ever really rolled up their sleeves and worked for a living? How many were at the kegger on Friday, temporarily suspending their cause for social justice?

  Just sayin’…

• Anonymous

  did you actually read how and why those protestors were arrested?

• madhattah

  In future years this will probably be viewed as the beginning of the new American Revolution. I hope it is. I hope that the People win this one.

• Anonymous

  and then there are those that think a Liberal Arts degree is actually about “art” and “literature” LOL

• Anonymous

  If we care about this country sorting out Wall St. will go a
  long way in righting some terrible wrongs. If there is a wish Wall St. could
  have, they would be delighted to see the end of any kind of democratic system and
  voting rights, no wonder we have a party who is systematically restricting
  voting rights, while the D’s do nothing about their overreacting control.

  It matters not whether people can articulate why they are
  there, the common thread that binds them and many of us is anger. People are
  fed up with Wall Street’s involvement in all things including our government.

  Their time has come to stand with this country, many are
  convinced they are the enemy within. If they’re not the enemy they are certainly
  not the friend of 98% of the people.

• Anonymous

  One good thing about living in Maine is these morons will leave and go back out of state as soon as the snow flies.

• Anonymous

  Anyone who sympathizes with this movement should show up in Augusta on Oct. 9th at noon for the finale rally of  ”Bring Our War Dollars Home” (BOW$H), THE campaign in Maine that is connecting the dots and pouring energy into educating people on the issues.  Go to the UMA Holocaust and Human Rights Center at 46 University Drive, bring your signs and your vocal chords!

  -N.G.  Stockton Springs

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZVOZU6JNL5ZDZW3VNASGTCCTY Clyde Grant

  Whether these protesters are doing this for the right reasons or not; it is their right to do.  I can’t imagine anyone, provided they  shed themselves of their political affiliation, not admitting that corporate America  has to much control of our government. The protesting will keep many of us from burying our heads in the sand. It will also encourage us to discuss the issues as we are doing now. 
  I only wish that we all shed ourselves of our politcal affilations and look at the issues objectively.  There has to be some common ground somewhere between overspending and profits at any cost.

• Anonymous

  “Piggies” by the Beatles is more suited for Wall St.

• Anonymous

  Economies are and have always been a precariously balanced house of cards. Always. It is belief in the system more than anything else that keeps them afloat. You understand that bank exchanges are merely bookkeeping entries don’t you. That takes a lot of faith. Do you have any idea what would happen to your children if that precariously balanced house of cards were to collapse? Can you say starving children?  Why would you want that to happen?

• Anonymous

  The pseudo-cowboy from Texas is the one who divided this country.

• Anonymous

  The print edition of the BDN has a caption above the large, front page picture that says:  “A lot of us are students just one paycheck away from being on the street.”     Hmm… are you a student or are you working?  I know there are working students, but students are generally poor.

• Anonymous

  That’s ridiculous.  We have a representative government.  People choose their representatives at election times.

• Anonymous

  amen to that

• Anonymous

  When these folks standing in the streets have squandered the last of their (or their parent’s) resources;  they will want food and shelter to be provided for them by the same people they are so anxious to condem.  It’s brilliant isn’t it.

• Anonymous

  Exactly, you have provided a very good definition of our current system. The problem is everyone worldwide is losing “faith” in the system all at the same time. Not wanting it to collapse has no bearing on the reality of the situation. Many people have seen this on the horizon for some time and have been slowly and quietly preparing for just such an eventuality. I think we are in for a very difficult stretch, but we are a resourceful people and I think we will make it through.

• Anonymous

  Yet, give Occupy Wall Street time ………. B of A stock is floating in the toilet, and they’re heading down after it.

• Anonymous

  No- There were big political differences for sure… but the population in general was not as divided as it is now. People on the left advocating violence. Read some of these posts. The President has a lot to do with the extremism today.

• Anonymous

  You are right.

• Anonymous

  Bring the full weight of the RICO act and the federal anti-fraud statutes down on Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Brian Moynihan, Angelo Mozilo, and a host of other impudent wall-street bankers and real-estate operators still at large in their world of Escalade limos and Gulfstream vistas. Or, if that’s just too difficult, how about a handy lamppost and about 40 feet of stout hemp in a same manner that the Italians disposed of Mussolini?

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T3YNF6MG3FPEAVTFIJC44VQUI Dlbrt

  Thank Bush / Larry Summers / Goldman Sachs Lobbyist and the Republicans for allowing  Wall Street / Banks to destroy the American Economy!

  Dodd -Frank was in response to the collapse so thank them for that too!

• Anonymous

  The unemployment rate for  college graduates aged 25 and over it is only 4.3 percent.

  http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm

  These are likely college graduates with time on their hands. They need to take a deep breath and go look for work.

• Anonymous

  And “Taxman” for the government.

• Anonymous

  Come on … Bush used religion to divide us, what about Perry this week? I would never advocate violence, but I got a feeling that those who control the strings that animate most of our politicians aren’t going away without a fight of some form.

• Anonymous

  Well Cheesecake1955…………. ” I believe you think too much of yourself as young folks often do”, you aren’t young, does 1955 indicate your birthdate?……..I am your Mother weighing in.
  Having just finished a full year of college in Portland, 14 years ago; at age 59, I was  trying to  find ways to stay in Portland, ( allegedly an Art Center)  & pay my rent. There was agism in hiring, so BEING, creative, & resourceful, not able to pay rent for a shop as well as apartment, not being able to get 2 service jobs to build a grubstake, I hit on the idea of putting my lovely prints and cards in my wooden radio flyer wagon, &  daily, walk around with it in the Old Port section, to sell prints of local scenes, to the tourists. IF THAT ISN”T CAPITALISM, I don’t know WHAT IS!
  Well the City of Portland, wanted $500. for licensing fees and insurances. ( If I had been a hotdog vendor, it would have been only  $300.) So, being 30 years, experienced with successfully calculating the costs of running a business, I gave up on that idea,  (Not going to make costs in a summer, ) decided to collect early Widow’s Pension, losing 1/4 of the benefits forever…..and came home to, job challenged, Downeast to my house. How is THAT socialism?
  NOW THE CITY IS GIVING EVERY INDIVIDUAL 4 sq’ ft of space to create and sell artwork!???
  Back in 1951, at age 12 I started my first small business. I went around to the neighbors, and sold them on paying me to paint Christmas pictures in their picture windows. I INCLUDED A CONTRACT that I would return after Jan 1 and WASH the window clean again. I made $25.00 good money back then!
  THIS CAPITALIST, from the bone marrow out…………hasn’t been able to get ANYTHING like that started up in the last 20 years since the rich Conservatives have gained so much influence through  their paid politicians! Today my neighbors can barely afford food fuel & housing costs, let alone, something fun & enjoyable. It IS A CORPORATOCRACY for sure! I’ve had enough.
  TIME FOR CHANGE!

• Anonymous

  the Tea Party should be there with Occupy Maine and Occupy 
  WallSt. === they believe in the same thing !!!    We’re on the same side of this issue, not all issues, but this issue.   Now that’s news that will fly. 

• Anonymous

   Oh BTW, the manufacturing downturn in China, didn’t affect this country until 20-25 years ago because WE MANUFACTURED OUR OWN STUFF HERE IN AMERICA!
  WHO decided, to outsource to China??It sure wasn’t the socialist, commie, pinko, liberals you love to call us!

• Anonymous

  stupid is as stupid does…

• Anonymous

  I don’t need to, nor was I trying to dismiss them. I need to properly frame who they are and what they’re about.

  FYI – if they obey the law, they wont be risking jail time. If they break the law, they risk jail time. Therefore, if they break the law, they are no longer within their rights to freely assemble. Can’t have it both ways.

  You can call me any name you want. That’s fine. Of course, watching you attack me by calling me a weasel is remarkably similar to what you are claiming I did.  I guess in your world, two “wrongs” make a “right.”

• Anonymous

  be careful I don’t take it all.

• Anonymous

  The great thing about this country is that our First Amendment allows such freaks to come out and show us what they are all about. This repulsive protest is as absurd as it is mindless.

  The concern about our entitlement system is that when payors stop or slow payment to the payees, violence will ensue. I hope that does not become the case here, but the concern is a valid one.

  Margaret Thatcher said it best: “Socialism works great until you run out of other people’s money.”

  Consider this simple fact that completely undermines these protests: Unlike as with the IRS and ME Revenue Service, I have never been forced to pay any private entity, including any corporation, against my will, and neither have you.

• Anonymous

  But it will have nothing to do with a bunch of protestors. It is something that should have been allowed to happen before. The economy can’t recover until all the bad assets are cleaned from the banks books. Only then will that allow the the bank industry to recover.

• Anonymous

  I don’t think I have called you or anyone names at all. Is that how you define yourself?

• Anonymous

  Well said… UNITED WE STAND, divided we fall… we must NOT forget those words! We must not allow some to “buy” a government for themselves.

• Anonymous

  no need to resort to name calling.

• Anonymous

  change banks

• Anonymous

  I did not use the word “socialism” in any of my posts.  I am sorry that the city of Portland charged you so much for a license. It was unfair. I recall a beef in the news about that sometime in the past were you part of that.  Individual initiative should always be rewarded. Best of luck!!

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

  I like it.

• Anonymous

  Yep, grow vegetables in your yard and lay in a supply of wood for fuel and make sure you stock up on reloading supplies if the system collapses. You will need em.

  I’ll move myself and my family aside
  If we happen to be left half alive
  I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
  Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
  Do ya?
  ~~~~ The who

• Anonymous

  why do you people resort to name calling and ageist remarks? Oh yes, it’s because you don’t have a leg to stand on.

• Anonymous

  :)

• Anonymous

  with you cheesecake.  i mentioned the name calling above several times.  they resort to it as they don’t  have a credible thing to say.  they think they can ‘shout’ you down to ‘shut’ you up.  typical ploy.  keep on posting.

• Anonymous

  See what I mean.

• Michelle Testa

  mainer4ever – sorry to say, I work at a financial institution and we can afford to absorb some of the loss from new debit card rules. All responsibly run financial institutions can afford to absorb the loss. The simple fact is that Bank of America (and others) REFUSE to absorb any loss of income. They could cut back on bonuses and executive pay just a bit – and come up with new services to create revenue. However, creating new fees on services already provided is a low, low move. 

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

  There was no violent protest. Marchers were led onto the bridge by the NYPD. (If you don’t believe me you can watch the video on about a million websites.) Then they were herded into an orange net trap and arrested. NOT VIOLENT!
   
  Get your head out of wherever you’ve been keeping it and get some truthful information before you post. To say that these beautiful young people and the thousands that are joining them all over the country were staging a violent protest not only makes you look ignorant but is malicious as well.

• Anonymous

  Pot meet kettle. All you’ve done is call people out because you yourself have nothing of substance to add to the debate.

• clamcove

  Hohum, more amateur demonstrators…………… 

• Anonymous

  we can’t vote them out because they where never voted in, and we have politicans who act only in the interests of the string pullers and not their constitutents. What’s your suggestion?

  After watching the Prohibition documentary the similarities with what is going on today is a mirror image of then. What I got from it was, legislating morality is bad thing and will always be doomed to failure. And, when industry controls government they like to keep us drunk on something. Whether it’s booze or bucks, control is control.

  If you haven’t read the “Fourth Turning” you should, it’s not a political book more of an observation of cyclical patterns in history.

• Anonymous

  I was not a part of that  beef against Portland, I came home to Downeast, and immediately took a 2 year AmeriCorps VISTA postion, which paid off about 1/2 my student loans……..I still owe over 10,000. am 72 years old…………..Thank you for your Good luck wish.
  Where there is life there is hope, & happy to report, the lower coastal portion of Washington County is blossoming forth as an Artist’s mecca. We have the same wonderful light that inspired the Impressionists in France 150 years ago, and awesome scenery,. There are 4 Art groups here in the last 3 years………….multiple Art Openings/shows here this summer. Hopefully Art buyers……
  will catch onto the fact that they can get in on the ground floor with art, collecting original work, rather than being told that a dead shark swimming in a fish tank of formaldehyde is art. ( Yup that is what the  wealthy are paying big bucks for now!)
  No you didn’t say socialism, I threw that in for those  on this thread, who did,.

• Anonymous

  Who was not voted in that currently serves?   Other than the lifetime bureaucrats that make the rules, most of whom are Democrats.

• Anonymous

  no those who pull the strings of the politicians, and it
  ain’t their constituents.

• Anonymous

  viper13….I am simply telling you MY EXPERIENCE in life.  If you choose to see it as agism………..& name calling ………feel free to do so….
  example: I applied for a job at WALLPAPER WAREHOUSE in the Portland MALL, as sales/consultant, to people buying wallpaper. I grew up in a wallpaper Dynasty, Grandfather Father, Uncles, ran a mail order wallpaper company. ( Aroosta County, biggest sales) I designed wallpaper for ANOTHER company for 33 years,  I worked inthe decorating field in Philly, NY DC,  was on the Education Foundation Board, of the National Home Furnishings organization.
  have had  experiences such as dinner party at the Malibu home of the editor of Architectural Digest.
  I was NOT HIRED to help people in Portland decide which wallpaper to buy!

• Anonymous

  So the bailout money 8 hundred billion went to the top 1% and used to make enormous profits for themselves is not a hand out, welfare as you refer to… Hey when money is paid back at 0% intrest rate where does it go??? 

• 525_44

  Wonderful! It’s about time people stood up and said loudly ‘ we are mad as he|| and we won’t take it anymore’!
  Government needs to be returned to the people.

  It’s good to see people exercising their right to demonstrate and express their ‘rage at the machine’!

• Anonymous

  Vote em out.

• Anonymous

  It’s funny how some people like yourself assume… Wallstreet Greed and Banker Greed is being funded by the taxpayer bailout of 800 billion at a 0% interest rate… Who are the bums you’re talking about..  The money is being use to profit not to benifits anyone but the top 1%…

• Anonymous

  After watching the Prohibition documentary I realized the similarities with what is going on today is a mirror image of then. They tried to legislating morality, bad move and it was doomed to failure from the start. And, when industry controls government they like to keep us drunk on something. Booze or money control is control.

• Anonymous

  Just as the RICO act should’ve been used against the anti choice murderers and bombers except that a few well paid judges failed to do their Constitutional duties.And once they are done with the aforementioned people on your list,on to the insurance company honchos and people like Kathy Ignagni.It’s about time real people were heard.I’m heading to Portland.

• 525_44

  You don’t think they have a right to do what they are doing? I think they have a point, not the particular one you are alluding to, but they are taking a stand for something they believe in.

• 525_44

  Do you also agree with what Hank Williams Jr. said? Just curious EJ.

• Anonymous

  Finally!  The middle class fights back!

• 525_44

  Their is nothing wrong with education at a higher level.
  I take it you never went to college, it is a great place for a serious student and a place where kids mature and find themselves in most cases.

  Where do suppose the conservatives go to college….

• 525_44

  I like Dylan more and more…

• Anonymous

  as I recall that just happened, what has changed for the better?

• Anonymous

  I will accept corporate personhood as soon as a single corporation is given the death penalty.

• Anonymous

  If you hate the “Big Banks” don’t keep your money, if any of you have any, in their establishments. If you don’t like the “Corporate Monsters” from Wall Street, don’t purchase or do business with them.

  Ask them why they are there. most are incoherent and don’t have a clue. Ask them what they want to replace evil Capitalism with and again no clue.

  And if you want to protest Wall Street, Go to Wall Street.

• Anonymous

  The dictatorship of the proletariat simply meant that the workers and peasants would dictate policy to the former czarists.

  Would you have it otherwise?

• Anonymous

  Re-education camps already exist here.

  Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc.

• Anonymous

  Nobody ever said that… O b a m a said that everyone should suffer a little to bring the country back onto it’s feet, yet the top 1%  got a 800 billion dollar welfere check to benift only themselves and make large profits… They are mad at how the bankers and wallstreet got a bailout by the taxpayer.. You must believe something is wrong with that. There is nothing in there about socialism… Twist it as you see fit it is you’re right

• 525_44

  I remember the Reagan years they weren’t that good as some folks believe.
  As you pointed out in another post, he would be branded as a socialist today.
  Of course the bus driver shouldn’t pay more taxes than the millionaire….

• Anonymous

  They absolutely have the right to do what they are doing, so long as they do it peacefully and within the law. I have a right to speak my mind about their obviously anti-capitalist slant as well. They are taking a stand for something they believe in, which as a principle is great.

  Unfortunately, I don’t agree with much of what they believe in, at least inasmuch as they want to destroy capitalism and expand the welfare state. It’s possible I agree with them on the need to fight corruption and crony capitalism, but if their goal is to destroy capitalism (honest capitalism) then sorry, I’m out and I’ll speak loudly against it.

• Anonymous

  It’s a little more complex than that. What is the relationship of this new proposed proletarian dictatortship to the “petite bourgeoisie”  which is the marxian class I and most of America fall into.

• Anonymous

  800 Billion Dollar Taxpayer Welfare Bailout to the Banks and Wallstreet at 0% is OK… They can use the money to increase their Profits 100 fold.  I call it opening up Pandoras Box to see whats inside…..  Go rig a gas pump for the top 1% loser…

• Anonymous

  Perfect response.

• Anonymous

  I was more referring to the camps of  Vietnam, and Cuba, the Gulags of the former Soviet Union.  The reeducation camps of North Korea and during the “Great Leap Forward” and The Cultural Revolution in China. Perhaps you are on the inside and are willing to give me the “skinny”. If you don’t think it can happen here, I have seen posters on these pages advocate such things.

• Anonymous

  Happens all the time. It is called bankruptcy.

• Anonymous

  The problem is, you may wind up with a thinking problem.

  First, you will find yourself only thinking socially.  Then you will begin thinking by yourself.
  Thinking and driving will soon follow.

  Once you begin thinking on the job, watch out.

• Anonymous

  He is making a fortune and a name. Good for him.

• Anonymous

  Valley Forge

• Anonymous

  The Cuban people “occupied” Cuba some 50 years ago.

• Anonymous

  You just need to change banks……..BofA is the worst or the worst

• Anonymous

  If you studied the subject, you would find they are not against capitalism, they are against how our government is owned by the top 1%…. How The Banks and Wallstreet the top 1% made the Governemt give them 800 Billion Dollars at 0% of taxpayers money… I’m sure you hate people on welfare and from what I understand corporations are people too….

• Anonymous

  I see.

  Would you prefer to be sentenced to bankruptcy…

  …or death?

• Anonymous

  Useful idiots…..

• Anonymous

  Um, no, tye tried to stop traffic, they knew that asn’t allowed. Don’t go blaming the cops for the stupidity of these ignorant children.

• Anonymous

  For a business it is the same. but they creditors get to pick over your stuff. Not the family.

• Anonymous

  So because you could not get a job (likely because you were 59 and only had 1 year of college, seems rather telling), it is the WHOLE world’s fault?
  Maybe you have no skills? Maybe you have no experience? Maybe you have no clue? I think all of them, but especially the latter.

• Anonymous

  Actually, it was the increase of “free trade”, which the “socialist, commie, pinko, liberals” were ALL for despite the warnings that stuff like this would happen, And now that it has, you blame others for it, when it was you that created it… typical. 

• Anonymous

  Yes they did and now they live in rundown shacks on the edge of the beach wondering where their next meal comes from and how they can do better for their kids. Maybe get on a raft and dodge sharks getting to Miami.

• Anonymous

  The bureaucrats remain.

• Anonymous

  Don’t you find it slightly ironic to use the pot and kettle reference and then say that someone else has nothing of substance to add to the debate?
  You have not added anything except ignorant, tired, and baseless rhetoric. And then you pretend you have a clue, which should really insult your elementary school, if not your own being.

• Anonymous

  Hey how about Hank W. Jr.! … Right off the wall.

• Anonymous

  I have a couple advanced degrees and I can tell you, aprilsunshine is absolutely correct.
  Nice attempt, care to try again?

• Anonymous

  If you have questioned the professors, then you wouldn’t be so clueless…

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYWAGMEY2Z2T7BY32M2SHIURKA Chris Bowker

  You go ahead & stand with the kids… fortunately I rarely need to go to that part of Portland so it won’t bother me a bit!

• Anonymous

  Because it has no other response… substance and facts mean nothing to a liberal.

• Anonymous

  Excellent post.  It’s about time Americans started to speak up against the horrific corruption that has infected this country.  I recommend that everyone see the Oscar winning documentary, Inside Job, to get a detailed, multisided picture of how Wall Street greed and corruption took this country way way down in 2008.

  And our craven or co-opted politicians have done nothing but bail Wall Street out so they can do it all again.

• Anonymous

  It’s about unregulated capitalism. Obviously. Which is why we are in th mess we are in.
  Couple that with greed.

  Stop listenening to the mainstream media. We should all be fighting wall st!!

• Anonymous

  I wonder if the thought has ever dawned on these “protestors” that perhaps the reason they are poor has something to do with the fact that their greatest achievement in life thus far has been a nose ring? Most of them probably slept their way through school, barely graduated with minimal ability to read and now its all the fault of “the rich” who wont give these morons everything they want for free. These idiots are no different from the rioters in London. If you dont pamper them they’ll “show you a thing or two” by burning down their own neighborhoods. Pure geniuses we’re talking about here. 

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  What these pitiful neo-communists fools fail to realize is that Middle America detests everything they represent. I would like to see these small groups of miscreants pop up all over the place. There is no better testimony to the truth of “progressive liberalism” than a cluster of ignoramuses shouting “hell no, we wont work!”

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYWAGMEY2Z2T7BY32M2SHIURKA Chris Bowker

  I would never, never, never have a business in downtown Portland.  Bums, Protesting Bums, nut jobs, high taxes and Lib pols… Why would any sane person willingly deal with that?

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  If you paid any attention to these vegetables, you would realize they have no idea what they oppose. Meatball, Wall Street is as liberal as Hollywood!

• Anonymous

  Keep your head in the sand. You are a true patriot. Thank you!!

• Anonymous

  I actually did work for BOA back in the early sixties at their San Francisco main office. During my brief tenure there the bank operated under the principles of its immigrant founder, A.P. Gianini. It was retail banking at its finest with loans made to street food vendors if the applicant was believed to be honest and hard working. That’s how the bank grew phenominally, supporting the local communities within which it operated. Then one day banks were allowed to expand beyond their states of origin, and the North Carolina conglomerate BOA of today, which doesn’t give a hoot anymore about individuals, bears no resemblance to the original worthwhile entity that helped so many to prosper. So sad, really, that the sharp pencilled mba’s overwhelmed the personal touch and ruined a formerly grand company.

  I think no one should underestimate these protests of today, least of all our current politicians.

• Anonymous

  Please get your info/news from another source.

  Here’s a little lesson. The media is owned by corporations!! Connect the dots genius!!

  We should ALL be against wall st! Please stop the stereotyping and ridiculous accusations.

  Fascist?

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  No, we are just waiting for the cretins to begin stinking so bad that even stolen beer and granola is no longer attractive.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  I thought that happened in 2008?

• Anonymous

  Why even bother? You need to advertise your ignorance ?

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  Dummy, most of the TARP funds have been repaid.

• Anonymous

  Stop listening to the corporate media. They have obvious stakes in mass protesting against their owners. This isn’t a bunch of trust fund hippies, or a bunch of lost unemployed kids, or whatever other lies they want you to believe.

  These are Americans! We should all be there!

  Time to end the corporate fascist state that has become America!!

  End the wars! Bring em home!!

• Anonymous

  Get a Job!!!

• Anonymous

  I saw a quick report that he lost the Monday Night football gig. Was more concerned about finding the video of Wilfork’s second interception.

• Anonymous

  Occupy Wall Street’s proposed list of demands reads like a Marxist fever dream.  It’s a miracle these imbeciles can make it from one end of the day to the other without accidentally killing themselves:

  Da Demands:

  1.  Restoration of a living wage (raise the minimum wage to $20/hr)
  2.  Institute a universal single payer healthcare system (all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market.
  3.  Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
  4.  Free college education.
  5.  Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same time bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demans.
  6.  One trillion dollars in infrastructure spending now.
  7.  One trillion dollars in ecological restoration.
  8.  Racial and gender equal right amendment.
  9.  Open borders migration, anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
  10. Bring American elections up to international standards.
  11. Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.
  12. Outlaw all credit reporting agenies.
  13. Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign….

• Anonymous

  From what I understand no one has compared Valley Forge in the late 1700′s to Club Med.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  This is sheer ignorance that nobody but the neo-communists are buying. Almost all of the TARP funds have been paid back or are on track to be paid back. The total net loss is forecast by the Obama administration to be well under $25 Billion.

  Face the truth. The miscreants are making the same noise the discontents have been making for years. Middle America hates you. Get used to it.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  The beginning of the New American Revolution began with the Middle Class and it’s Tea Party grassroots movement. As with the first American Revolution, we are not the red shirted bastards.

• Anonymous

  The not so small difference between the Occupy protesters and the Tea folks is that one of the groups is directly financed by two of the richest men in the world. The Occupy protesters are actually grass roots.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  It is nothing but a neo-communist far left movement comprised of ignoramuses who have no idea what they are protesting about.

• Anonymous

  If that were truly the case, redistricting would be a simple process and never the issue that it is. Add to that the fact that “he who spends the most, wins the most” and the idea of a representative government flies out the window.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  You haven’t paid for anything. We have been paying your way for you. It is time for you to pay.

• Anonymous

  Please allow me to gently lead you back to my original point.

  I will accept corporate personhood once corporate executives can be sentenced to death for their economic crimes.

  Crimes such as, say, plunging the world into economic chaos for their own personal gain.

• Anonymous

  Most likely, these people have never had to worry about where their food is coming form or how they are going to pay their bills, just a bunch of kids that want attention.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  Pure nonsense.  Reagan pushed tax cuts through, eliminated various loopholes and the end result was and is that the wealthy today contribute considerably more than they previously did. The reason for that was not a hand in their pocket but because capital that was shuffled around to avoid taxation is now invested in the economy producing GDP and taxable income.

  Your shmucks could not be trusted with the contents of an outhouse for your lack of knowledge.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  BS … Reagan is the one who eliminated the loopholes. There are few loopholes left but those that do exist seem to benefit the big Obama donors more than anybody else.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  Tell that to the scumbags in Wisconsin.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  I think that s a good idea. Lets have somebody take pictures of all of you and distribute the mugshots to every employer in the area.

• Anonymous

  You realize how high Unemployment is right?

• Anonymous

  Generally speaking the business that do that are allowed to fail and they should. However the political fortunes of the current administration along with the previous administration interfered with the process.  They allowed business to survive that should not have. The price the banks paid to escape the gallows was supporting Obama’s election and so-called bank stability of 2008. They still have bad-debt assets that needs to be cleared and is still contributing to economic problems today.
         The answer to your corporatepersonhood question is simple. The government interceded and commuted the death sentence.

• Anonymous

  Well said. You are obviously a worldly kinda guy.

• Anonymous

  What? Please go home.

• Anonymous

  Hey genius, go back to the tee vee. I think your missing an episode of American idol.

• Anonymous

  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

• Anonymous

  “The government interceded and commuted the death sentence.”

  I’d love to continue this discusssion, but I really am due back on Earth.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  It is all a great evil conspiracy. Be very afraid.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  I thought you were an admirer of creepy left wing violence.

• Anonymous

  You’re only belittling yourself when you belittle these protesters. Try to find a way to see beyond party line. Haven’t you understood yet that the political system is broken and has been for a long, long time?

  Yes, many of us fell for Obama’s grand plan, but more and more of us are starting to realize its not the politicians who are in power.

  We’re going up the food chain, and instead of trying to stifle progress, however messy it may appear, why not try to learn about it instead of coming up with your one liners.

  I don’t blame you for your present ignorance, but if you refuse to learn as time passes, it’s your own fault.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  That is plain stupidity.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  The “Tea Party IS Middle America. You will learn that lesson succinctly in 2012.

• Anonymous

  There is only one thing worse than a bully.

  And that is an ignorant bully.

• Anonymous

  Beautiful young people?

• Anonymous

  You need to stop playing the blame game and get on board or the whole country will totally go down the toilet.

• Anonymous

  Perhaps if you wrapped your prints around a hotdog you could get the permit for less.

• Anonymous

  That is what the bailout was.

• Anonymous

  sorry about the Monday night football gig.

• Anonymous

  Denouncing education. Now there’s a step forward in human evolution.

  Oooops! Apologies April, I didn’t mean to offend by using the “e” word.

• http://twitter.com/joncob Jon Coburn

  ~in the voices of the opening/closing segment of criminal minds:~

  Bozo the clown once said…

• Anonymous

  Good research, where did you find his?

  Many of those demands would bring a recession most would bring economic chaos and a depression. These folks are idealistic children. The probably want a ban on brussel sprouts also.

• Anonymous

  How long did it take foer you to make this up… I haven’t heard one thing on your list come out of their mouths.. A couple of rouge speakers snuck in to promote O B A M A junk but were found out right off. you are wrong and are misleading people with that list that you seemed to have made up yourself… These people get the media and people like you who are trying to make them look like fools…. 

• Anonymous

  Then what exactly are your demands? Post them here. Let’s give them a fair hearing.

• Anonymous

  I see the co-option of your cause has already begun.

  “A couple of rouge speakers snuck in to promote O B A M A junk but were found out right off. ‘

  You are babes in the woods.

• Anonymous

  You are wrong and trying to mislead people into believing it was paid back… Show me where almost 1 trillion dollars is that was paid back… hahaha.. I’m a Republican and I agree that wallstreet and the Bankers run this country.. Stay off listening to the TV media. I understand how people need to believe in total goverment control to sleep well at night.  Just take a pill it’s easier then believing in lies…

• Anonymous

  This has nothing to do with communism, and even if it did there is no way in hell you conservatives would let that happen, am I right?

  So, that said, why can’t we all agree that the corporate, banking and financial system has run amok and f’d up the governing of this country.

  You’ll go ahead and say that “regulation is bad for business,” but last I checked business sucks eggs at the moment, and these same corporations are not hiring conservatives just as they are not hiring liberals.

  You’ll go ahead and say you’re “a very successful independent businessman” but then I’ll have to go scratch my head because if you were so successful you wouldn’t spend most of your time on these pages calling people commies.

• Anonymous

  What on earth do you know what they want? Most of the protesters aren’t even on the same page yet.

  No one has mentioned destroying capitalism. Have you seen these people in NYC? They all have laptops and wear Nikes, and likely have Bank of America cards.

  The feeling I get from these protests is that they simply don’t want corporations mucking about in their government anymore.

• Anonymous

  Yeah but he or she will be wooed by corporate money to look the other way over and over and over again.

• Anonymous

  Great video – I thought the hair compliment was very moving.

• Anonymous

  Man, that was rousing – I’m leaving this afternoon and I’m not coming back until the corporate fascist state is destroyed.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

  Yes, beautiful in spirit, something woefully rare in modern times.

• Anonymous

  Oh NOT ME!  I DO only have ONE vote! I didn’t have much to do with this political disaster of 30 years………Only 4 of my votes for President in 40 years has been  for the one elected.
  I didn’t CALL anyone names..just repeating ( with irony) the Labels that have been hung on me, and those who share my ideas………..
  http://www.cfr.org/pakistan/trade-outsourcing-jobs/p7749      from February 20 2004!
  “The pitch of the discussion rose further on February 9, when President
  George W. Bush’s chief economic adviser, N. Gregory Mankiw, released the
  annual Economic Reportof
  the President and praised offshoring of U.S. service jobs as a “good
  thing.” “Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade,” he
  told reporters, adding that the practice is only “the latest
  manifestation of the gains from trade that economists have talked about”
  for centuries. The reaction from both sides of the political aisle was
  fierce. “They [the Bush administration] have delivered a double blow to
  America’s workers, 3 million jobs destroyed on their watch, and now they
  want to export more of our jobs overseas,” said Senator John F. Kerry
  of Massachusetts, the leading Democratic presidential contender, who
  has made outsourcing a major issue in his campaign. “I understand that
  Mr. Mankiw is a brilliant economic theorist, but his theory fails a
  basic test of real economics. We can’t have a healthy economy unless we
  have more jobs here in America,” said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Illinois). President Bush later appeared to try to distance himself from Mankiw’s comments.”

• Anonymous

  Actually, no. You seem terribly misinformed about this whole thing.

• Anonymous

  “This is what the face of Democracy looks like!”

• Anonymous

  One day they will be Wall Street. But for now this is as close as they can get…

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  You are not a Republican. You can’t even lie hidden behind a screen. Even rudimentary internet skills can refute your silliness. 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

• Anonymous

  Since we have ‘for profit’ prisons growing day by day, I would say we already have ‘re-education camps’ with a strong motive for filling them beyond enforcing the law. Look at the probation system wherein individuals are allowed to ‘go free’ on one charge, but can ‘land’ back inside for any number of reasons including traffic violations. I call that bait and switch. When you can’t secure a certainty of jail time through the justice channels, simply offer probation and you will almost certainly get the offender behind bars eventually. This is my personal observation of family members in trouble with the law.

• Anonymous

  My Dad has a beautiful spirit and he’s 88.  I think there are many beautiful spirits who go unnoticed.  Perhaps they’re working instead of protesting. 

• Anonymous

  Maybe they could use some of that spirit to find a job. Educated people aged 25 or more have an unemployment rate in August of 4.3%. It shouldn’t take much effort for them.

• Anonymous

  Funny, you think it’s just kids. From the pictures presented above, I can see balding & fray heads. Perhaps you think you are part of the 1%, but I suspect your in the same boat with 99% of the rest of the population.

• Anonymous

  for college graduates above age 25 unemployment is at 4.3% historic lows.

• Anonymous

  Please do not feed the TROLL. Even when he tries to make a point, it’s via the low road.

• Anonymous

  we shouldn’t fear building camps to house like minded people who have taken from society so they can serve society . In this case here the protesters can serve their time for breaking the law by doing service to the corporations or communities. Or they can be transferred to other regions to do same. This would be win win.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Stuart/100000378618564 Kathy Stuart

  So tell me, please. Are those of you disparaging these groups happy with the status quo? Really? Do you not watch anything but Fox News? Our country has been systematically dismantled by the oligarchs and their highly priced minions. The supreme court ruling on person-hood for corporations should have been a tip off.

  But that’s OK, carry on. Those of us who would like to see a brighter future for our grandchildren will keep on fighting the fight even though the odds are against us because people like you and some others here would rather not know or see the truth.

• Anonymous

  Perhaps didn’t feel divided because you thought you were on the “right” (good guys’) side.

  I can assure you that the democrats who were so outraged in the Oughts- by Bush policy many of you on the Right have since denounced – felt just as badly as many on the Right have been feeling these days.

  It’s a no-win situation, the way things are set up now.

  As it stands we’re divided and conquered on both sides of the aisle. What we need to do is stop being played by those politicians and the corporate-financed media, they only care about themselves.

  As for the extremism, I’m quite not sure if you’re referring to these demonstrations, but I can recall being called everything from a traitor to not being a Patriot to being instructed to leave the country when I called Bush policy into question – notably only after 9/11.

  It’s time to put down the swords against each other and try to find a solution out of this mess.

  But I fully expect to be bashed here again, so go ahead.

• Anonymous

  perhaps we could get different cultures to make the housing such as wingwams of bark, asian earth holes connected by tunnels , homeless box shelters etc

• Anonymous

  The repeal of the 1935 Glass-Steagall Act in 1999 holds the key to the 2008 meltdown.

  “The Glass-Steagall Act was enacted during the Great Depression. It
  protected bank depositors from the additional risks associated with
  security transactions. The act was dismantled in 1999. Consequently, the
  distinction between commercial banks and brokerage firms has blurred;
  many banks own brokerage firms and provide investment services.
  Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/glass_steagall_act.asp#ixzz1ZpZ5ItWx”

  In other words, your savings that were protected by this law were lost
  due to speculation ie. betting by banks. Nothing has changed and we are
  not out of the woods yet.

• Anonymous

  Just what this country needs A mob of selfish unthinking spoiled children being lead by their overeducated, no life experience teachers all of these people  being controlled by invisible hand of a global group of elites.

  My only hope if what I see comong comes is that I will bejudged as no longer of use to the society, and be turned painlessly into soylent gerrn

• Anonymous

  I do hope that you will be welcome and haoop in the ommunist utopia you’ll find yourself in.

• Anonymous

  We might choose our representatives, and it might be good to look at what happened in Wisconsin, but the fact is we don’t choose our President. That is done by the Electoral College and sometimes by the Supreme Court, but for the life of me, I don’t quite understand how they usurped that right from the House (2004 election.)

  The Electoral College is an archaic holdover from a paternalistic mentality that believes you can’t let the populace make important decisions. For that, we need meetings behind closed doors.

  So while we do away with the Fed, let us also get rid of the Electoral College. There are 4 Presidents that were elected by the Electoral College after loosing the general election. And there is a question about the disparity of EC votes cast for Nixon over Humphrey in the 1968 election.

• Anonymous

  These people can keep trying these same failed beliefs, and notice how much more militant they have gotten just over the last few months and hoping that this time their wishes can come true and not end up in the trashcan of the marxist religion.

• Anonymous

  These kids who protest Wall Street and the rich don’t seem to realize it’s the capitalist system that made this country prosperous and other nations as well. One has to wonder with what system they plan to replace the current economic system.

  I don’t know about you but I have an independent mind like most voters do. Lobbyists and major state newspapers and media can only influence my thinking. In the end, however, I sort out the issues like most voters. So I have no problems with lobbyists who most often really represent a bloc of constituents. Interestingly, the mainstream media doesn’t appear to be an issue with these protesters. I wonder why.

• Anonymous

  Got it from their web site. 

  No word on brussels sprouts yet, but it’s probably a “living document” like they think the Constitution is.  So give them time.

  http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

• Anonymous

  It’s from the fools’ own web site.

  http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

• Anonymous

  I’ll go along with the death penalty when corporations are allowed to vote. In the meantime I don’t plan to cut the hand that feeds most Americans.

• Anonymous

  Well said.

• Anonymous

  Just kidding, by the way.

• Anonymous

  Thoughtful observation.

• Anonymous

  Hahaha

• Anonymous

  I doubt any corporations could ever be prosecuted for “plunging the world into economic chaos for their own personal gain.” The Supreme Court of the land would never allow such a vague law to be enforced. I’ll go along however with punishing law-breaking executives.

• Anonymous

  Occupy the fed!!!!

  The federal reserve is the true evil! It needs to go now!

  Occupy the fed! Starts Friday !

• Anonymous

  I agree with you wholeheartedly, except that I would have been a little more explicit in your closing comment by adding “to all Americans”.

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZWOYWFSRGHQARSRT2OXW25LE suzie

  I have this feeling that you have absolutely no idea how big B of A is.  As for your idea, if other banks begin charging a debit card fee how many times are you supposed to go through this changing banks process?  I have many accounts tied into my checking account and it would be a major undertaking to change them all, esp my direct deposits.  I’m old now so it’s harder.  All this has been spawned by the new Obama banking laws and B of A is trying to implement this before they are limited by law on other fees they can collect.  An unexpected consequence.  This is what happens when Congress never reads what they vote on.

• Anonymous

  LOL…nice job with the rational argument, or more precisely, lack-thereof.  Your failure to perceive the connection between corporate interests, our central bank,  and tailor made financial “regulations” (that you erroneously assume are for the benefit of the American citizen) promulgated by a bought and paid for congress, relegate you as one that is most certainly not a current inhabitant of this planet.  With the way your talking, you sound like you are beyond Andromeda at this point and headed for the great beyond.  Have fun with your travels and be sure to say hello to the little green, corporation slayers that you apparently worship when you get there.  Au revoir!   

• Anonymous

  Do they realize that most IRA’S and retirements are on wall street.Bringing down wall street is not the answer everyone suffer’s.As long as barry get’s reelected that is aall that matters to these people.Wish some of these activist’s would think with their brain not their emotion’s

• Anonymous

  So does that also go for politicians plunging the world into economic chaos for political gains?

• Anonymous

  Funny how SCOTUS utilized the 14th amendment, the very same amendment constantly cited by folks supporting gay marriage, to adjudicate the question of corporate citizenship and individual rights in this nation. 

• Anonymous

  Hope these obamanot’s realize they need a job someday.Not many poor folk’s will be hiring.

• Anonymous

  Nice to see you are being a true hypocrite like this group and using everything you rail against (corporate media) to spew your pablum.

• Anonymous

  “If  you are not for the American People, you are against us.”
  LOL…how very George W. Bush of you…my, my

• Anonymous

  I fail to see the coercive nature behind an entertainment program…

  Oh well, I guess hyperbole is  not all that uncommon these days…

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  And I’m sure there is comment after comment from you telling the Tea Partiers to get a job.

• Anonymous

  SUPPORT THE WALL ST PROTESTERS!

  Our “free market system” is bankrupt. We need to address the predatory
  capitalism that preys on the middle class and the poor. Financial reform is
  vital to combat the effects of consolidation, conglomeration, “too big to
  fail,” unfair labor practices and environmental predators. US banks, investment
  firms, hedge funds and others must be regulated and conform to new US standards
  and ethics of market behavior. Income and profits above certain thresholds
  would be taxed heavily. Banks should act less like a casino; taking in the
  money from the rubes, and placing bets on bets. We got rid of “bucket shops” a
  hundred years ago. Bankers have been bad greedy actors and have profited of the
  fleecing of the US. They have taken federal money generated by US taxpayers and
  have invested in schemes that have stolen billions from those same taxpayers.
  There should be a windfall profit tax on commodity producers, hedge funds, and
  investment banks. Outlaw banks, industries, and countries from commodity
  hoarding. This drives up the price of everything. Big Oil, OPEC, and the banks
  have stolen for the last 12 years from our pockets. Why aren’t the Justice
  Department and state Attorney Generals applying the RICO act against these
  criminals? Why haven’t we repealed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of
  2000 and The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999?

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  True, because the next step after thinking on the job is a big, scary union…

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  Reagan once asked if a bus driver should be paying a higher percentage in taxes than a millionaire. The answer to his rhetorical was “NO”. He wanted to close all the tax loopholes that make rich people richer while poor people went nowhere.

  Ronald Reagan, as rated by the current parties, would be a moderate Democrat/liberal Republican and would have been primaried out of office.

• Anonymous

  Sorry you linked a Forum comment!!! You know Just like in here.. You get to say anything you want… So you are taking Lloyd JHart’s commet in a forum and making it sound like demand list for all concerned… It is like saying everyone in the BDN forum agrees with what you or I post… I’m sure you are a person of intelligence and realize what the media has done here.. If you search  from the beginning of the website (not the forum ) you will find none of them items listed were in their charter.. Thank you for at least looking…. Thats more then most who believe anything the corporate media puts out there.. 

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  The Tea Party members aren’t the corporate takeover, they’re simply misguided by their corporate sponsors. If they were given a good education in how to question authority, they’d probably be out on Wall Street too.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  Wait, so the guy that the left is angry with for compromising too much with the right is who you are blaming for the divisiveness in politics?

• Anonymous

  wikipedia, .. I’m not sure if you know this but I can post anything on any subject on that website.. You could have posted that on there as far as I know.. or I could have… And yes I am very much a Republican.. Never, ever voted for a Dem and never will.. I believe in free market and the ups and downs that come with it.. I just want a “FAIR FREE MARKET”.. How about you???

• 525_44

  Not as far as I’m concerned… But we all have our opinions.

• 525_44

  Yes.

• Anonymous

  I am middle America, and have done well for myself with zero debt. I don’t have to worry about a pension… Yet over the last 8 years I’ve seen the Dems in bed with the criminals trying to distroy everyones chances to aquire wealth through regulations… Regulating small businessess to the poor house while allowing the top Bankers and Wallstreet to take everyones money slowly…

• Anonymous

  I have listened to the reasons of some of these so-called
  revolutionaries or anarchist as they call themselves. Are
  these people for real? One claimed the Nazi Jews had to go.
  Another wanted to take over all corporations. Another thought
  everyone should get everything. Another wanted socialism. And
  on it went. I wonder how many of these college bums who are there
  would love to see their parents lose everything. I wonder how many
  of these union activists want to see their 401′s and pensions lost.
  I wonder how many of these wonderful revolutionaries want to see
  the elderly who are dependant on their dividends to live lose all of it.
  Don’t any of these fools understand that millions of people are invested
  in wall st and it just isn’t the evil rich? Don’t these revolutionaries understand
  that many average Americans have their savings, 401k’s and pensions all under
  the wall st umbrella? Who is going to give them all that back? The unions?
  The revolutionaries? Maybe they will get it from Obama’s stash? One speaker
  claimed he was a teacher…a socialist…now I wonder just what he is teaching
  his students?

• Anonymous

  This is great! I’m glad to see that the movement is spreading like a wildfire! And about time. Support the 99% and demand that the influence of corporate money get OUT of OUR government! That is job one!

• Anonymous

   I support capitalism, I just don’t support courrpt capitalism.. I support the true protesters not the ones who stepped in to courrpt the whole Idea of why it started… A lot of people who are  believers in the communist are hooking up to the shirt tails of this group and soiling it’s true meaning..  Honest Capitalism is always the best way to run a country, everyone has a chance to do better. Social politcal governments will tell you if you can excell or get rich by working hard. They determine who is in charge..

• Anonymous

  Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) was intended by Congress to eliminate the ill-affects of organized crime in the nation’s economy. It was not enacted to squelch free speech rights of groups of citizens like abortion protesters. SCOTUS recognized this fact when the government attempted to stop these protesters from protesting. The government did however prosecute those very few rogue protesters who took it upon themselves to create violence that the protesters themselves denounced and continue to denounce.

• Anonymous

  How about their “First OFFICIAL Release from OCCUPY WALL STREET” (Capitals in original)?

  “This was unanimously voted on by all members of Occupy Wall Street last night, around 8pm, Sept. 29.  It is our first official document for release”

  It’s a Marxist whine-a-thon, complete with full-throated claims of victimhood, naturally. 

  One of my favorites:  “They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is in itself a human right.”

  It’s a pathetic regurgitation  of the usual lefty issues; in fact it’s even more laughable than the first link I posted.

  Remember, it’s “official.” 

  http://occupywallst.org/forum/first-official-release-from-occupy-wall-street/

• Anonymous

  Their first “official” release, they forgot the brussels sprouts again.

  http://occupywallst.org/forum/first-official-release-from-occupy-wall-street/

• Anonymous

  Look no further than to Heartofsky. He obviously doesn’t like the message by certain named people, so he condemns them.  

• Anonymous

  They are not Dems… Don’t force these people to go that way… They don’t like him… I was never mean’t to be political.. It’s about Honesty,   Do you think it’s OK to be courrpt if it protects IRA’s and Pensions… Is it OK to pay 3. 75 per gallon at the pumps to protect the irs and pensions or pay 3.29 per loaf of bread or $5 a gallon for milk. Heck they inflate everything your pensions aren’t worth half of what they were before, and you don’t even know it… 200k for a house worth 75k in reality… Don’t assume that the top will protect wallstreet, they are all buying Gold in it’s phycial form.. These are good kids, who know the constitution and believe in it. Honest not courrpt wallstreet is all they want…. the rest of the stuff you hear is garbage put in there by socialist… and not the true meaning of the protest…

• Anonymous

  It’s funny to see these people interviewed on TV.  Most don’t even suspect what they stand for.  They chant like zombies and wait for someone to lead them to the next show.  If you support them, you support nothing, but should probably join them and give yourself something to do.  Probably get you out of your mother’s basement for awhile.

• Anonymous

  where did you get your info??? corporate media???

• Anonymous

  Oh Im sorry, you got the eyebrow piercing instead of the nose ring? My bad.

• Anonymous

  You are right, these people are not, thats correct are not, pro protesters.. They did not realize that the media would courrpt their message. They did not realize people would pretend to be with them when their goal was to courrpt their message,    So yes!! they are babes in  the woods.. And they need our help!!!..

• Anonymous

  What is truth?
  Is truth unchanging law?
  We both have truths.
  Are mine the same as yours?

• Anonymous

  I agree.  But the current course will not even allow us to find the way out.

• Anonymous

  I don’t think they’re against capitalism; they’re against the erosion of democracy–government by the people for the people.  The laws have become skewed in this country, and the laws favor the rich and entitled.  What angers me most is the Supreme Court decision that says corporations are people and money is speech.  The gap between rich and poor is widening every day.  Think about this:  400 of the richest people in this country are worth the same of the bottom 150 MILLION of the rest of us.  Something is wrong.  There are 20 lobbyists for every member of congress.  I don’t know about you, but I don’t have the resources to leave my job and travel to D. C. to bend the ear of my elected official.  The common person in this country does not have equal access, and that’s a big part of the problem. 

• Anonymous

  Sorry but true.

• Anonymous

  I would stop listening to cnn and fox etc. use the internet, be proactive, and use some common sense. The corporate media naturally is going to paint an anti-corporate movement as unorganized and scattered–not to be taken seriously…You really cat figure out why people are fed up? Seriously?

• Anonymous

  This is really abusive, inappropriate language.  I think you should apologize.

• Anonymous

  Thank you for your patience and logically effective stance!

• Anonymous

  Wow–brain washed by corporate media much, Larry?

  Use some common sense please. When people are protesting the corporate takeover of the country and the media is a corporate entity ya’ think there may be a disinformation campaign? I cant think of one reason any American shouldn’t be protesting right now–at least supporting them. After all we are ALL in the same boat. Forget about useless stereotypes of “hippies” or any other propaganda and use your head man!! Come on!

• Anonymous

  Ha..Ok, keep paying those taxes and watching that tee vee sheep. Enjoying your diminishing constitutional rights? Have you even noticed? 

  HOws that war on terror going? Go wave a flag

• Anonymous

  Of course I realize how big BOA is. Even before they swallowed up MBNA, they were huge and now they are pretty dominant. 

  I think you’re right that many other banks will also start charging this fee, but that’s no reason to bash BOA. That’s a reason to bash the politicians who made the rules that led to this raise in debit card fees.  Although I have a BOA debit card, I use my credit union debit card instead so I’m hoping this won’t spread to credit unions. Maybe you should consider using a credit union too.

  I also agree with you that it’s a real pain to move your accounts and money around to a different bank, but if you want to save $60 a year, that’s what you (and I) will have to do. If it’s more than $60 dollars worth of trouble to you, then don’t do it and just pay the fee, it’s still your choice.

• Anonymous

  What on earth are you talking about? What group? What hypocrisy? 

  Corporate media is merely an outlet. Go back to your television.

• Anonymous

  Occupied.

• Anonymous

  occupied.

• 525_44

  I used to do some banking at BOA. I closed all my accounts I had with them due to some of their policies.

  I got tired of them charging people I wrote checks to a fee for cashing my check at my bank because they didn’t have an account there.

• Anonymous

  Unfortunately there is no evidence that there is any thinking going on! And yes,  I did go to college.  Just managed to keep my independence in the process.

• Anonymous

  No one is knocking a college education.  I am knocking liberal professors who indoctrinate instead of teach.

• Anonymous

  …

• Anonymous

  Do you really need to be told that the corporate media has a stake in what is said when people are protesting corporations!! hello!!

  Here’s an idea–use your internet connection, be proactive, and find out for yourself what is really going on!! DO not listen to fox, cnbc, cnn, etc.

• Anonymous

  wh

• Anonymous

  You, sir, are no liberal.

• Anonymous

  What a joke. If I can borrow some comments made by Rich Lowry of The National Review regarding “Occupy Wall Street”, “This is a sign either of desperation to find anyone on the left still energized after three years of Hope and Change, or of a lack of standards, or both. The Left’s tea party is a juvenile rabble, a woolly-headed horde that has been laboring to come up with one concrete demand on the basis of its — in the words of one sympathetic writer — “horizontal, autonomous, leaderless, modified-consensus-based system with roots in anarchist thought.” I think the term, “juvenile rabble”, somes it up best. To these young radicals, I say, GET A LIFE!

• Anonymous

  You challenge my thought process.

• Anonymous

  You need to follow the thread. Context is everything.

• Anonymous

  They think being spoon fed crap qualifies as independent thought.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  er .. shucks … yer think?

• Anonymous

  Yep, nearly 91% of Americans are employed.  We should destroy the national economy so that the other 9% can find work. 

• Anonymous

  Spreading like wildfire?? You didnt even get one thousandth of one percent of the population of NYC to show up. The Backstreet Boys are a bigger draw than this “protest” will ever be. On the upside, I think a few of the BSB’s showed up with Susan Sarandon to lend support to the protest only to get beseiged by dirty hippies asking for autographs and granola.

• Anonymous

  Exactly. And how quick people forget the Tea Party has LOADS of special interest money backing them too.

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J5XVHRZG3GXBWY3WX3ZZAPK5DQ Harry

  “to these young radicals, I say, GET A LIFE!”
  Or better yet get a job. And while you are at that interview at the evil corporate headquarters trying to get that job….bring those crazy signs and start some of those chants….. it will help you ….alot! 

• Anonymous

  He saw right through you – I don’t know how, but he did.  If he represents the Occupy movement, I’m selling the double-wide and heading for Nova Scotia.

• Anonymous

  I think I will just wait for the documentary/reality show, “Entitlement Crowd Gone Wild”!

• Anonymous

  The problem is that a degree from many of these colleges wont even get you a ditch-digging job to pay off your student loans. And you think those that dont go to college are stupid? I think maybe the “stupid” ones are the idiots who go to college for 6 years to get a 4 year degree in basketweaving and then are saddled with student loans because they cant get a job. That degree in liberal arts isnt going to benefit anyone but the school you went to to get it and the bank that loaned out the money for it. But yeah, lets go protest on Wall Street because we cant get good jobs with our degrees in general studies. That will surely help.

• Anonymous

  Ohhhhh burn! Please sit down and give your brain a rest for once rather than constantly lowereing the collective intelligence of the entire board with your droll banter and insults.
  I’ve addressed several points throughout this thread. If my points are baseless perhaps you could address them individually rather than personally attack me. Actually scratch that. It would be a waste of time to attempt to explain anything to you because you’re obviously too busy wanking off to Glen Beck in a Nazi uniform to really care about the subject at hand. Carry on…

• Anonymous

  Has the current post been edited.???

• Anonymous

  You may have misread my post. Regardless, since Reagan left office, there have been quite a few loopholes put in place by Clinton, Bush, and Obama. The latter, however, has benifitted the most from the loopholes.

• Anonymous

  Marxist religion?

  Eh?

• Anonymous

  Your capitalist dystopia is nigh.

• Anonymous

  No. Not really. They have a clear vision that the 1% doesn’t make the decisions for the rest of the country.
  Anyone with eyes open knows that the gangsterism of Wall Street — financial institutions generally — has caused severe damage to the people of the United States (and the world). And should also know that it has been doing so increasingly for over 30 years, as their power in the economy has radically increased, and with it their political power. (Campaign Finance is a huge problem) This has set in motion a vicious cycle that has concentrated immense wealth, and with it political power, in a tiny sector of the population, a fraction of 1%, while the rest increasingly become what is sometimes called “a precariat” — seeking to survive in a precarious existence. They also carry out these ugly activities with almost complete impunity — not only too big to fail, but also “too big to jail.”
  The courageous and honorable protests underway in Wall Street should serve to bring this calamity to public attention, and lead to dedicated efforts to overcome it and set the society on a more healthy course.
  Honestly, I really dont understand how folks can see this as a bad thing…unless of course they’re one of the elite 1%

• http://profiles.google.com/sdemetri Stephen Demetriou

  “Just what this country needs A mob of selfish unthinking spoiled
  children being lead by their overeducated, no life experience teachers
  all of these people  being controlled by invisible hand of a global
  group of elites.”

  Canter, Ryan, Issa, McConnell, Bachmann… and the rest of the lunatic caucus…!!!?

• Anonymous

  Really, seriously…it is easy to figure out that leeches and bums
  want to continue to be leeches and bums. It isn’t businesses and
  wall st that is the problem, it is an over stepping govt that is. Someone
  is rich…good luck to them. Instead of trying to take what they have, how about
  protesting to take less from the others who are also paying. Paying for
  47% who pay nothing. Stop listening to the marxist/socialist/communist
  rhetoric. Look at who is supporting and instigating these “revolutionaries”
  or “anarchists”. The majority of them have no clue why or what they are
  protesting. They don’t want to work, they want what is “owed” to them
  through someone else’s means. As for Fox and Cnn, they aren’t the only
  media and as for common sense, it doesn’t take a lot to see a lot of garbage
  that is mindless and is being used for propoganda. The clueless like being
  led and don’t even know why.

• Anonymous

  Fox News conducted its own survey and discovered most of the protesters were essentially rebels looking for a cause to rebel. They’re anarchists who a merely trying to create chaos.

  I think you had better check on your stats again. You confused 400 corporations for 400 people. These corporations are owned by tens of thousands of working people and retirees. The corporations themselves don’t consume personally like individuals do. They don’t go on expensive vacations or spend lavishly on clothing, food, and toys. Most of the money they spend is on capital goods used in production and job creation. They employ a very large segment of the population and create wealth, thus making everyone richer. So who really cares if someone is richer than another excepting for those who are envious.

  What many Americans overlook is that the masses are not made richer by making the rich less rich. If you want make people better off, its best to encourage investment and job creation by lowering taxes on job and wealth creators.

  There is essentially nothing wrong with lobbyists. Most of them represent a bloc of voters who use their resources to influence or petition the government. Any attempt by the government to outlaw or legally put a lid on them is unconstitutional. I recognized  it’s nearly impossible for lone individuals to have an impact on their members of Congress. Knowing this to be the case, the framers of the Constitution created the right to assemble in order for people of like mind to petition their government officials. Thus what we are seeing is basically a society enjoying freedoms like no one in the history of mankind has ever had that has prospered through the decades while most other nations lag behind economically.

• Anonymous

  “ya maaannnn, where just like those protesters in Egypt (except for getting shot at) and we have sacrificed so much. Like going to college on grants and loans and finding a job in a tough economy maaaannnn! These guys have no idea about real sacrifice, they go home to have their laundry done and will quit these joke protest as soon as it interferes with a Friday night kegger.

• Anonymous

  Fair enough.I still think there is a lot of wink wink nudge nudge when those groups pretend to claim ignorance when their fringe elements go overboard.They are extraordinarily well funded and know their way around the law.Also there are plenty of judges and people in power to help them.Pro choice people have very little money which is the mother’s milk.

• Anonymous

  A poorly written piece of legislation used to help destroy our the liberties what could better.

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J5XVHRZG3GXBWY3WX3ZZAPK5DQ Harry

  Quick. Somebody call Howie Carr. Some moonbats and their offspring have escaped MA and now are holed up in Portland. Entitlement. Entitlement. Entitlement. I want it NOW. Go home, back to your hut, tent or where ever you came from and start doing something productive.

• Anonymous

  What else can a belief system that has been proven to be falseyet people demand that you believe it. Religion,  and this is the absolutly most stupid religion That has ever existed..

• Anonymous

  Hmmm, I am anything but pro communist/socialist as you suggest. A regulated free market, similar to what we had, is what I believe in. Communist? You seem to believe in our constitution but when anyone protests they are mindless hippies wanting free everything? What the heck are you talking about? Please look beyond the obvious spin. Each and every American should be very angry at Washington, dc and wall st. However, I believe the focus should be on the fed and the capital. Wall st will take care of itself after those two are corrected.
  I really have no idea what you are talking about? Again, unless you have first hand knowledge that doesn’t come from corporate media sources you know nothing. You are repeating the corporate media talking heads.

• Anonymous

  Wow. Where do you get your data? Good luck to you.

• Anonymous

  Hahaha ah….woo hoop..ok. Wait, my stomach hurts…

  You really believe that too, huh?
  Unbelievable.

  Please go back to American idol, or the NFL, or whatever mindless distractions you participate in

• Anonymous

  LMAO @ “Fox News conducted its own survey”

• Anonymous

  That’s FAUX NEWS

• Anonymous

  Unfortunately you get most of your news from the main stream media that has a pro-abortion rights bias. The information you get is distorted, if anything else. Anti-abortion protesters like myself have been reminding our people to be non-violent over and over. We just don’t nod and wink as you suggested. These types of false allegations are often put out there with no evidence to back them up. But why is there occasional violence? There are many reason for that. For one there are many wackos out there who respond irrationally. That’s not the protesters’ fault. These same types of wackos existed when Dr. Martin Luther King marched. It’s not different now, excepting that when the violence is directed at protesters themselves, it barely gets media attention.

  When it comes to violence, there are many instances where it is directed at the protesters themselves. We know this because we witness this quite often, not to mention the cacophony of jeers and taunts from certain members of the traveling public. Occasionally (although I have not witnessed this myself) a traveler will drive his vehicle towards a crowd of protesters. I suspect it’s done most often to intimidate protesters but nonetheless we are advised to keep a watchful eye out on errant vehicles. We also are strongly advised to have a live video broadcast on site (usually hidden) to protect ourselves from false allegations from abortion clinics workers themselves. It’s not uncommon that protesters’ signs get ripped out of their hands.

  The pro-abortion industry has twenty and possibly thirty times the funding that pro-life advocates have. Planned Parenthood alone, for instance, is funded by the tax payer to the tune of 365 million dollars per year and takes in more than 1 billion dollars in come. Your characterization of “pro choice” people therefore as having little money to operate is far from accurate. The opposite is true. They are very well funded by the likes of many billionaires in this country as compared to pro-life groups. In contrast to pro-abortion rights groups, pro-life groups depend on grass-roots organizations for its strength and political influence since they have little money to donate to political candidates.

• Anonymous

  Politicians have not been granted personhood. outside of their own person,  as has been granted to corporations by your Supreme Court.

• Anonymous

  Q.E.D.

• Anonymous

  That’s not much of a response. I’ll bet you didn’t even see the live broadcast of protesters being questioned by a Fox reporter on the scene one after the other.

• Anonymous

  Hey, I see you learned some Latin too!

• Anonymous

  Jeer all you want. Some folks just have trouble handling truth.

• Anonymous

  Good luck selling the double wide.  Banks won’t even finance them anymore.

• Anonymous

  I’m missing your point.  That student also expresses the sentiment of a lot of fulltime workers.  A lot of Americans are one or two paychecks from being on the street.

• Anonymous

  HUAC much?

• Anonymous

  The “truth” and Fox News should never be used in the same sentence.
   

• Anonymous

  I happen to agree with all thirteen points, spelling and grammar errors included.

• Anonymous

  Right, the Constitution is Scripture, not a living document.

  That’s why we do not have a judicial system.

• Anonymous

  For my Mom, I have a seven day pill dispenser.

  Works great.

• Anonymous

  Please clarify.

• Anonymous

  Plain stupidity is what allowed to Koch brothers to pull this off. How many people get hurt putting things right depends entirely on how good people like you are at realizing they’ve been had.

• Anonymous

  “It is nothing but a neo-communist far left movement comprised of ignoramuses who have no idea what they are protesting about.”
  Neo-imperialists also known as Neoconservatives have set this thing off. They hid the money offshore and caused the most horrible depression in the history of mankind. It’s almost always the Right Wing that has no idea what they are protesting about. Just so you can’t say nobody told you. You are wrong.

• http://www.facebook.com/Christopher.Blackwell1945 Christopher Blackwell

  I like the fact that finally Americans can get off their duff and hit the streets. Mind you they are not swilling beer and watch the football games, they are not watching television they are away from their computer games, they are getting physical exercise, they re living simple.. Note that they are not rioting, they are not being violent. So far looks god to me. Will they accomplish anything, gee who knows? But this looks more like the old America where people still thought that they had power and could change things. And look at the skills they are developing for organization, taking care of media, creating their own media, promoting their ideas, providing basics like portal potties, training their new comers in none violent demonstration. Actually this will come in handy for them when they are in business, these are the go getters who make things happen. More power to them. Far better then our couch potatoes who over eat, over drink, under exercise and mindlessly survive life without actually living it. 

• Anonymous

  I was just barely 4 years old when I learned my parents were headed to the poles to vote and preferred Hubert Humphrey. I argued that I should go with them. I told them, “I wanted to vote for Hubley’s too, but I didn’t know there was any.” They laughed, but I was serious. The truth is, with the electoral college still in place, none of your opinions is anymore important the the opinion I had about Hubley’s when I was 4 years old.

• Anonymous

  Hey Danny Boy, I think the pipes are calling.

• Anonymous

  I have not seen any anti-Obama rhetoric from the left on these pages. Iis that who you meant by decided to leave unnamed?
  and yes… he has led the country in an ultra-partisan way since taking office. He has used the language of confrontation constantly. That along with the healthcare bill motivated the loss of 60 plus congressional seats.

  If that is who you mean why can’t you even say his name?

• Anonymous

  What are you talking about?

• Anonymous

  It is easy to see these Arab Spring wannabees have been living off the teat of their parents for too long. Now they are out in the real world and find it confusing. No wonder they don’t know what they want.

• Anonymous

  That is a US Bureau of Labor Statistics. You know the people who determine the Unemployment stats. … those folks.

• Anonymous

  CheezeBallz, I’m flattered but holding the whip doesn’t make me the plantation owner. Once we carry out our orders we will be disposed of too. 

  For the confused: The re-education camps are in reference to the horrors created by the South Korean government once the US relinquished government control to South Koreans. I only learned this year of the widespread atrocities committed against US POW-MIAs and South Korean nationals that cooperated with the US in the Korean War and Vietnam. CheezeWhiz, if you could help me readjust the tin foil on my head I might be able to pick up more details to share with you.

• Anonymous

  Dammit Gumby! Would pick a frikken side?? Just when I want to hunt you down you say something you don’t seem bright enough to know. Are you sharing an account with your wife or something??

• Anonymous

  If we find you first, you’ll be the first to Christen that like-minded house! I love cat and mouse. C’mon, give me a hint. Where are you right now? Who pays your grocery bill?

• Anonymous

  If it makes you feel any better, this is one of the bastardds I’ve been trying to warn you all about. His message is premeditated and canned by the conquerors of this great nation. Hey CheezeNutts, thanks for helping them.

• Anonymous

  Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

• Anonymous

  Some of us are desperate and immediately involved in the current situation. People like you pisss us off beyond belief. You need to know, if we get the chance to rear-end you since you support the rape of our pensions, families, careers, and healthcare, you’re gonna take it hard, no quarter. He’re another chance for you, get on the right side.

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Lachowicz/100000535475609 Edward Lachowicz

  You mean President Barack Hussein Obama? I have no problem saying his name.

• Anonymous

  The framers of the Constitution provided a mechanism for changing the Constitution when necessary; this is the amendment process.

  What they did not intend was legislation from the bench, since the overarching principle of the Constitution was a government of laws, not men.  Their experience under English rule demonstrated the dangers of entrusting the well-being of citizens to the whims of a single ruler.  Even the English government had acknowledged this danger by the establishment of Parliament to somewhat blunt this effect and to give the people a greater voice.  The framers of the Constitution advanced the principle to the next logical step.

  The judiciary was established under the Constitution to ensure that the principles of that document were adhered to, not to rewrite it on the fly.  What has happened has been a terrible drift from this original intent to a judiciary that bases decisions now on case law rather than the Constitution.

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  Pull what off? Do you have any evidence at all to point to or is this merely you’re repeating the empty headed group think rhetoric of your handlers?

• Liberal Soup N Crackers

  Perhaps I did.

• Anonymous

  I don’t want to get into a debate about this,since it’s off the original WS topic.I am happy to give you credit for defending your position reasonably even though I do not agree with it.
  I will ask one question though since I am not a legal scholar.Is it legal to tape the public(bystanders as opposed to counter protestors) without their consent?Thanks.

• Anonymous

  Dont you mean Harrison J. Brunell?? Or maybe Barry Soetoro?? This is the countrys first President with multiple alias’ so its hard to tell what we should call him. I dont think Hank Williams meant to compare Obammy to Hitler the other night, I think Hank just thought that “Hitler” was just another Obammy alias.

• Anonymous

  My point being they are not hurting the rich like barry is telling them.They are hurting every day people that have a little invested in I.R.A or some other retirement plan that depends on stocks and bonds.I wish the divider and chief would tell the truth on his divide america tour.The one part i like about this is if this was 2008 millions would be on wall street to support barry.This shows how much his support has declined thank god.These kids  are helping get barry reelected if they know it or not.Someone from the barry camp has prompted them.If they were really worried about jobs they would be protesting the whitehouse.Their future has been taken away from them by stimulus spending.From both sides.

• Anonymous

  You’re not serious, are you? Here’s a quick analysis of these damands:

  - 1. A $20/hr wage is unsustainable and would raise the cost of goods and services to an unaffordable level.
  - 2. Government run health care is unsustainable.
  - 3 & 4.Providing a living wage regardless of employment would negate the need for a college education and completely corrupt us as a nation as the lazy would quit working altogether and the hard working would lose any incentive and basically shut down.
  - 5. We need fossil fuels to run this nation and our military. A gradual weening will work if viable alternatives are developed.
  - 6 & 7. Two trillion for infrastruction and ecological restoration? Whose gonna’ do the work with a lazy population. With a guaranteed living wage, who cares about the infrastructure and economy?
  - 8 is already written law.
  - 9 will basically ruin the nation’s uniqueness.
  - 10. What’s wrong with American standards?
  - 11. And just who absorbs the losses? Do you realize what the worldwide debt is?
  - 12. Why?
  - 13. The unions had to get in here somehow. Afterall, they are squarely behind this movement.

  Anyone that agrees with these demands hasn’t a clue about what made this nation great. This is complete and utter anti-American bunk.

• Anonymous

  Guess you must be with the minority 1%. It wouldn’t make sense for you to support criminal corporates unless you were. And FYI, more people showed up at the first days rally in Portland than did on the first day on wall street.  

• Anonymous

  You marxist idiots always try to bring Fox news and Rush into the discussion in any way that you can. I always get such of laugh out of the ignorance of you leftists. You try and call Rush a racist, but have never listened to his show and dont even realize the guy sitting next to him for every broadcast just happens to be a black man. Snerdley is black folks, thats right. So while you try to play the ace card against Rush he and Snerdley sit there and laugh at you. Similiar to how you all tried to call LePage racist until you found out his adopted son is black. You commies are so pathetic and predictable. You throw around accusations of racism like a stinky old hacky-sack at anyone you can hoping it will stick, when in fact all it does it makes the left look more and more pathetic. So please keep up the good work.

• Anonymous

  Neither am I a legal scholar, but I would say video taping and taking still photos of the public is not illegal. It’s done all the time by vacationers, for instance. Places like Walmart and police stations have them running 24/7.  Televised video taping via web cams placed at three public sites in my community can be viewed anytime on the web. In any case, the videos used by protesters are usually only viewed when some incident or allegation is made against the protesters. If necessary it can be used as evidence in the court room to counter a false charge. This however rarely happens as false allegations of misconduct are usually dropped when video coverage is offered to refute the charges. Fortunately the presence of a video offers very good protection against anybody who would otherwise be tempted to create mischief.

• Anonymous

  So Im curious to know what news channel you think tells the truth? MSNBC?? Those fun folks who creatively edit video clips to try and make it sounds as though Rick Perry called Obama a “black cloud”?? Or maybe you prefer CNN? In a joint study by the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University and the Project for Excellence in Journalism, the authors found disparate treatment by the three major cable networks of Republican and Democratic candidates during the earliest five months of presidential primaries in 2007: “The CNN programming studied tended to cast a negative light on Republican candidates—by a margin of three-to-one.
  So when liberals at Harvard find that the liberals at CNN are biased three-to-one who do you accuse of lying? You cant falsely blame Fox on this one so who is the liar? The liberals at CNN or the liberals at Harvard?

• Anonymous

  the unions just joined them match, set ,point!

• Anonymous

  The wonderful thing about it is, this is all thats  left of the 2008 kook-aid crowd.This little excersize should scare democrats everywhere.The antidote for kook-aid is 2012

• Anonymous

  It depends on how you translate his analogy. On one hand, some seem to mistakenly think he was comparing Obama to Hitler. On the other hand, some correctly think that he was making an analogy to compare polar opposites.

  For some reason, those on the left have a big problem when a person mentions a Democrat and Hitler in the same paragraph, but when Hitler and a Republican are mentioned in the same paragraph, that’s perfectly all right. Actually, that’s a double standard.

  Hank Williams, Jr., was making a polar opposite analogy. He was NOT comparing Obama to Hitler.

• Anonymous

  Problem is, most of them don’t even know what they’re protesting. They’re just along for the ride. And they don’t even realize that they’re being used by the same people that they are supposedly protesting against.