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Medway panel pushes for national park feasibility study

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MEDWAY, Maine — Several town officials have formed a committee that will work in tandem with environmentalist and entrepreneur Roxanne Quimby to push Congress to authorize a feasibility study of her plan to turn 70,000 acres adjoining Baxter State Park into a national park, they said Wednesday.

The committee, co-chairman Bruce Cox said, will look to get all Maine residents behind the effort, not just those from the Katahdin region, but it will concentrate its efforts in northern Maine.

The panel hopes that if a study is done and it shows the proposal is feasible, a park can be established well ahead of Quimby’s five-year timeline, given the region’s 21.8 percent unemployment rate.

“We have to get moving. This is too important to take a laid-back approach like that,” co-chairman George McLaughlin said of Quimby’s hope to make a gift of her land to the federal government in 2016.

The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee will have several subcommittees with an overall goal of examining the 70,000 acres’ qualifications for designation as a national park and understanding a park’s potential economic and social impacts on the area and the state.

It also will examine the National Park Service’s ability to manage the park and work to jointly promote ecofriendly tourist and manufacturing jobs in the Katahdin region, according to the group’s mission statement.

One of the group’s first goals, McLaughlin said, is to arrange tours of the land to allow residents to see for themselves what potential the land has as a tourist destination.

“We have a lot of questions we want to answer,” said Cox, who is chairman of the Medway Board of Selectmen but who, like other town officials, is working on the committee privately, not as a selectman. “We welcome all of your questions. We want people to be as well-informed on this as they can be.”

The Legislature passed a resolve in June opposing Quimby’s initiative, through which she hopes to create a Maine Woods National Park. The park would be nearly twice the size of Acadia National Park. Sportsmen would get another 30,000 acres north of Dover-Foxcroft to be managed like a state park, with hunting and snowmobiling allowed.

Another 10 million acres of forestland nearby would be unaffected.

Park proponents said that Quimby’s proposal would draw hundreds of thousands of tourists to a Katahdin region with an unemployment rate nearly triple the state average, shuttered paper mills, a dying forest products industry and no other significant investors apparently willing to put money into the region.

The park would be virtually self-sustaining with Quimby’s promise to raise $20 million to add to a $20 million maintenance endowment she would create, they said.

Opponents have cited fears of damaging state efforts to revitalize the region’s two paper mills, which if restarted could employ about 600 people at manufacturing wages, which are generally higher than tourism wages; of granting federal government control and tax-exempt status to the 70,000 acres and hurting forest products industry lands; and of the park growing much larger than 70,000 acres.

Maine’s two Republican senators, the Maine Woods Coalition, the Millinocket Town Council and the Millinocket Fin and Feather Club have opposed or expressed skepticism about Quimby’s plan.

Medway’s school board, Board of Selectmen and several Katahdin region civic and business groups have supported a feasibility study. East Millinocket’s Board of Selectmen has elected not to take a position on the issue, and that town’s school board deadlocked on a vote supporting a study.

Gov. Paul LePage has yet to give his stance on Quimby’s proposal.

Mark Scally, chairman of the East Millinocket Board of Selectmen, said he was told the governor is vehemently opposed to a feasibility study but that efforts to create one, or to build a national park, have had no impact upon the state’s efforts to secure a buyer to revitalize the East Millinocket and Millinocket paper mills.

A spokeswoman for LePage declined to comment on the issue Wednesday.

John Raymond, a town councilor from Millinocket, said he was told by Rosaire Pelletier, one of state government’s leading forest products industry advisers, that efforts to create a national park were not helping the state’s efforts to revitalize the Katahdin paper mills.

Mark Marston, an East Millinocket selectmen, said Wednesday that he had heard the same thing from Pelletier, that the timing of the parks effort was “inappropriate.”

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  • Anonymous

    Thank you Mr Scally for clearing up one of the talking points others have used against the park. So glad to hear that it will have no impact upon the state’s efforts to secure a buyer for the mills. Mr Scally said it hadn’t even come up to the governor’s office as a concern!!! There are only 12 more days left in the extension to find a buyer….hopefully they do! So many rumors about buyers, European, Middle Eastern, Canadian…..and a local man….hope one pans out!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kelly-Green/100002233661222 Kelly Green

    Everyone knows the Katahdin region needs serious help and maybe a National Park and the possible influx of  tourists would spark an economic recovery for the region.  Of course, whether this feasibility study happens should be up to those who actually live in the region, since they have the most to gain (or lose).  Others like myself, Quimby, our congressional delegation and even LePage should let them make up their own minds without interference.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kelly-Green/100002233661222 Kelly Green

    Everyone knows the Katahdin region needs serious help and maybe a National Park and the possible influx of  tourists would spark an economic recovery for the region.  Of course, whether this feasibility study happens should be up to those who actually live in the region, since they have the most to gain (or lose).  Others like myself, Quimby, our congressional delegation and even LePage should let them make up their own minds without interference.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The feasability study has already been bought and paid for along with it’s conclusion.

     The price, you ask?

     Whatever a spot on the national park advisory board goes for these days.

     Cha-Ching! The check to the $billion Obama re-election campaign coffers has cleared.

  • yowsayowsa1

    “Another 10 million acres of forestland nearby would be unaffected.”

     There it is again.

     Is someone trying to reinforce the belief that no other forestland will be added to this “park”?

  • yowsayowsa1

    “Another 10 million acres of forestland nearby would be unaffected.”

     There it is again.

     Is someone trying to reinforce the belief that no other forestland will be added to this “park”?

  • Anonymous

    If that were the case then why not just get Obumma to designate it a national monument then go for national park status in a few years?

  • Anonymous

    If that were the case then why not just get Obumma to designate it a national monument then go for national park status in a few years?

  • Anonymous

    NEWS RELEASENATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEEContacts:Bruce Cox, Co‐Chairman, 207‐746‐5097George McLaughlin, Co‐Chairman, 207‐447‐0570Greg Stanley, Assistant Chairman, 207‐447‐0137Quenten Clark, Secretary, 207‐491‐4791Eleanor Dillingham, Treasurer, 207‐746‐5314 Citizen Committee Forms to Support Park Feasibility Study (Medway, Maine—3 August 2011) The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee announcesits formation today to ensure that a feasibility study is conducted for the proposed 70,000‐acre nationalpark in the Penobscot East Branch River region. The Committee, an independent group of citizens,communities, and businesses statewide, will work in parallel with noted environmentalist RoxanneQuimby and her nonprofit operating foundation Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to investigate the park’seconomic and social impacts, rally support for the park feasibility study and provide ongoing, up‐to‐dateinformation on the park initiative. According to Co‐Chairmen Bruce Cox and George McLaughlin, accurateinformation and an informed public will help drive sound decisions concerning the park’s formation andthe creation of tourism and manufacturing jobs in the area. The proposed park is a wilderness area east of Baxter State Park with scenic rivers, mountain views, and a wide variety of flora and fauna. Ms Quimby wishes to donate the land to the US Department of Interior in 2016, the centennial anniversary of the National Park System. She also plans to donate another 30,000acres north of Dover‐Foxcroft for mixed recreational use, including snowmobiling, ATV riding and hunting. The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee will be guided by a steering committee and byrepresentatives from a wide range of organizations, from restaurants and chambers of commerce toeducational institutions and recreational groups. Individual members will include citizens andbusinesspeople from many towns throughout the State. Meetings will be held monthly and as neededwith the first occurring August 20, at 6:30 pm, at the Medway Middle School. Committee activities will befunded by donations from citizens and other organizations. An interactive web site with park information and maps will go online in September. For more informationand/or to participate on the National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee, please contact Co‐Chairman Bruce Cox at 207‐746‐5097, Co‐Chairman George McLaughlin at 207‐447‐0570, Assistant Chairman Greg Stanley at 207‐447‐0137, or Secretary Quenten Clark at 207‐491‐4791. For moreinformation on Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., and the East Branch Sanctuary land, please visitkeepmebeautiful.org.‐

  • Anonymous

    NEWS RELEASENATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEEContacts:Bruce Cox, Co‐Chairman, 207‐746‐5097George McLaughlin, Co‐Chairman, 207‐447‐0570Greg Stanley, Assistant Chairman, 207‐447‐0137Quenten Clark, Secretary, 207‐491‐4791Eleanor Dillingham, Treasurer, 207‐746‐5314 Citizen Committee Forms to Support Park Feasibility Study (Medway, Maine—3 August 2011) The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee announcesits formation today to ensure that a feasibility study is conducted for the proposed 70,000‐acre nationalpark in the Penobscot East Branch River region. The Committee, an independent group of citizens,communities, and businesses statewide, will work in parallel with noted environmentalist RoxanneQuimby and her nonprofit operating foundation Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to investigate the park’seconomic and social impacts, rally support for the park feasibility study and provide ongoing, up‐to‐dateinformation on the park initiative. According to Co‐Chairmen Bruce Cox and George McLaughlin, accurateinformation and an informed public will help drive sound decisions concerning the park’s formation andthe creation of tourism and manufacturing jobs in the area. The proposed park is a wilderness area east of Baxter State Park with scenic rivers, mountain views, and a wide variety of flora and fauna. Ms Quimby wishes to donate the land to the US Department of Interior in 2016, the centennial anniversary of the National Park System. She also plans to donate another 30,000acres north of Dover‐Foxcroft for mixed recreational use, including snowmobiling, ATV riding and hunting. The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee will be guided by a steering committee and byrepresentatives from a wide range of organizations, from restaurants and chambers of commerce toeducational institutions and recreational groups. Individual members will include citizens andbusinesspeople from many towns throughout the State. Meetings will be held monthly and as neededwith the first occurring August 20, at 6:30 pm, at the Medway Middle School. Committee activities will befunded by donations from citizens and other organizations. An interactive web site with park information and maps will go online in September. For more informationand/or to participate on the National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee, please contact Co‐Chairman Bruce Cox at 207‐746‐5097, Co‐Chairman George McLaughlin at 207‐447‐0570, Assistant Chairman Greg Stanley at 207‐447‐0137, or Secretary Quenten Clark at 207‐491‐4791. For moreinformation on Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., and the East Branch Sanctuary land, please visitkeepmebeautiful.org.‐

  • Anonymous

    NEWS RELEASE
    NATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEE
    Contacts:
    Bruce Cox, Co‐Chairman, 207‐746‐5097
    George McLaughlin, Co‐Chairman, 207‐447‐0570
    Greg Stanley, Assistant Chairman, 207‐447‐0137
    Quenten Clark, Secretary, 207‐491‐4791
    Eleanor Dillingham, Treasurer, 207‐746‐5314
     
    Citizen Committee Forms to Support Park Feasibility Study
     
    (Medway, Maine—3 August 2011) The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee announces
    its formation today to ensure that a feasibility study is conducted for the proposed 70,000‐acre national
    park in the Penobscot East Branch River region. The Committee, an independent group of citizens,
    communities, and businesses statewide, will work in parallel with noted environmentalist Roxanne
    Quimby and her nonprofit operating foundation Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to investigate the park’s
    economic and social impacts, rally support for the park feasibility study and provide ongoing, up‐to‐date
    information on the park initiative. According to Co‐Chairmen Bruce Cox and George McLaughlin, accurate
    information and an informed public will help drive sound decisions concerning the park’s formation and
    the creation of tourism and manufacturing jobs in the area.
     
    The proposed park is a wilderness area east of Baxter State Park with scenic rivers, mountain views, and a wide variety of flora and fauna. Ms Quimby wishes to donate the land to the US Department of Interior in 2016, the centennial anniversary of the National Park System. She also plans to donate another 30,000
    acres north of Dover‐Foxcroft for mixed recreational use, including snowmobiling, ATV riding and hunting.
     
    The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee will be guided by a steering committee and by
    representatives from a wide range of organizations, from restaurants and chambers of commerce to
    educational institutions and recreational groups. Individual members will include citizens and
    businesspeople from many towns throughout the State. Meetings will be held monthly and as needed
    with the first occurring August 20, at 6:30 pm, at the Medway Middle School. Committee activities will be
    funded by donations from citizens and other organizations.
     
    An interactive web site with park information and maps will go online in September. For more information
    and/or to participate on the National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee, please contact Co‐
    Chairman Bruce Cox at 207‐746‐5097, Co‐Chairman George McLaughlin at 207‐447‐0570, Assistant
    Chairman Greg Stanley at 207‐447‐0137, or Secretary Quenten Clark at 207‐491‐4791. For more
    information on Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., and the East Branch Sanctuary land, please visit
    keepmebeautiful.org.

  • Anonymous

    NEWS RELEASE
    NATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEE
    Contacts:
    Bruce Cox, Co‐Chairman, 207‐746‐5097
    George McLaughlin, Co‐Chairman, 207‐447‐0570
    Greg Stanley, Assistant Chairman, 207‐447‐0137
    Quenten Clark, Secretary, 207‐491‐4791
    Eleanor Dillingham, Treasurer, 207‐746‐5314
     
    Citizen Committee Forms to Support Park Feasibility Study
     
    (Medway, Maine—3 August 2011) The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee announces
    its formation today to ensure that a feasibility study is conducted for the proposed 70,000‐acre national
    park in the Penobscot East Branch River region. The Committee, an independent group of citizens,
    communities, and businesses statewide, will work in parallel with noted environmentalist Roxanne
    Quimby and her nonprofit operating foundation Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to investigate the park’s
    economic and social impacts, rally support for the park feasibility study and provide ongoing, up‐to‐date
    information on the park initiative. According to Co‐Chairmen Bruce Cox and George McLaughlin, accurate
    information and an informed public will help drive sound decisions concerning the park’s formation and
    the creation of tourism and manufacturing jobs in the area.
     
    The proposed park is a wilderness area east of Baxter State Park with scenic rivers, mountain views, and a wide variety of flora and fauna. Ms Quimby wishes to donate the land to the US Department of Interior in 2016, the centennial anniversary of the National Park System. She also plans to donate another 30,000
    acres north of Dover‐Foxcroft for mixed recreational use, including snowmobiling, ATV riding and hunting.
     
    The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee will be guided by a steering committee and by
    representatives from a wide range of organizations, from restaurants and chambers of commerce to
    educational institutions and recreational groups. Individual members will include citizens and
    businesspeople from many towns throughout the State. Meetings will be held monthly and as needed
    with the first occurring August 20, at 6:30 pm, at the Medway Middle School. Committee activities will be
    funded by donations from citizens and other organizations.
     
    An interactive web site with park information and maps will go online in September. For more information
    and/or to participate on the National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee, please contact Co‐
    Chairman Bruce Cox at 207‐746‐5097, Co‐Chairman George McLaughlin at 207‐447‐0570, Assistant
    Chairman Greg Stanley at 207‐447‐0137, or Secretary Quenten Clark at 207‐491‐4791. For more
    information on Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., and the East Branch Sanctuary land, please visit
    keepmebeautiful.org.

  • Anonymous

    NEWS RELEASE
    NATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEE
    Contacts:
    Bruce Cox, Co‐Chairman, 207‐746‐5097
    George McLaughlin, Co‐Chairman, 207‐447‐0570
    Greg Stanley, Assistant Chairman, 207‐447‐0137
    Quenten Clark, Secretary, 207‐491‐4791
    Eleanor Dillingham, Treasurer, 207‐746‐5314
     
    Citizen Committee Forms to Support Park Feasibility Study
     
    (Medway, Maine—3 August 2011) The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee announces
    its formation today to ensure that a feasibility study is conducted for the proposed 70,000‐acre national
    park in the Penobscot East Branch River region. The Committee, an independent group of citizens,
    communities, and businesses statewide, will work in parallel with noted environmentalist Roxanne
    Quimby and her nonprofit operating foundation Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to investigate the park’s
    economic and social impacts, rally support for the park feasibility study and provide ongoing, up‐to‐date
    information on the park initiative. According to Co‐Chairmen Bruce Cox and George McLaughlin, accurate
    information and an informed public will help drive sound decisions concerning the park’s formation and
    the creation of tourism and manufacturing jobs in the area.
     
    The proposed park is a wilderness area east of Baxter State Park with scenic rivers, mountain views, and a wide variety of flora and fauna. Ms Quimby wishes to donate the land to the US Department of Interior in 2016, the centennial anniversary of the National Park System. She also plans to donate another 30,000
    acres north of Dover‐Foxcroft for mixed recreational use, including snowmobiling, ATV riding and hunting.
     
    The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee will be guided by a steering committee and by
    representatives from a wide range of organizations, from restaurants and chambers of commerce to
    educational institutions and recreational groups. Individual members will include citizens and
    businesspeople from many towns throughout the State. Meetings will be held monthly and as needed
    with the first occurring August 20, at 6:30 pm, at the Medway Middle School. Committee activities will be
    funded by donations from citizens and other organizations.
     
    An interactive web site with park information and maps will go online in September. For more information
    and/or to participate on the National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee, please contact Co‐
    Chairman Bruce Cox at 207‐746‐5097, Co‐Chairman George McLaughlin at 207‐447‐0570, Assistant
    Chairman Greg Stanley at 207‐447‐0137, or Secretary Quenten Clark at 207‐491‐4791. For more
    information on Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., and the East Branch Sanctuary land, please visit
    keepmebeautiful.org.

  • Anonymous

    If Quimby really wants a park, then why doesn’t she open up a private wilderness sanctuary, run it for a few years and then apply for National Park status….?

    To date, Quimby’s only argument to designate this as a national park is “branding”
    Sorry Roxanne,,, but your weak “branding” excuse and the animosity you and your followers have already brought to the table isn’t making you any friends…

    .

  • Anonymous

    If Quimby really wants a park, then why doesn’t she open up a private wilderness sanctuary, run it for a few years and then apply for National Park status….?

    To date, Quimby’s only argument to designate this as a national park is “branding”
    Sorry Roxanne,,, but your weak “branding” excuse and the animosity you and your followers have already brought to the table isn’t making you any friends…

    .

  • Anonymous

    If Quimby really wants a park, then why doesn’t she open up a private wilderness sanctuary, run it for a few years and then apply for National Park status….?

    To date, Quimby’s only argument to designate this as a national park is “branding”
    Sorry Roxanne,,, but your weak “branding” excuse and the animosity you and your followers have already brought to the table isn’t making you any friends…

    .

  • Anonymous

    NATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEE  
                                     
    We have formed an independent National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee to work in parallel with Roxanne Quimby and her Non-Profit Operating Foundation, Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to ensure that a feasibility study will be conducted for a National Park in the East Branch of the Penobscot River region.  
     
    Our goal is to have citizen representatives from many of the surrounding towns on this committee.   The members will meet monthly and as needed to formulate plans to promote the feasibility study and get educated on the values and regulations of a National Park.
     
    The independent committee will be organized with a Steering Committee, individual designated Committee Chairpeople as well as Members from the region.  The committee will be funded by donations from citizens and organizations.  Minutes, reports and agenda items will be generated at each meeting.
     
    We anticipate that we will need to conduct meetings with Senators, Congressional People, the Governor, the Department of Interior and possibly the President of the United States to promote the national park.
     
    MISSION STATEMENT:
     
    Rally the citizens, communities and businesses in the Katahdin Region and encourage them to support a feasibility study.  Area meetings will be conducted to communicate and report our findings to all.
     
    Thoroughly investigate the pro’s and con’s of supporting a 70,000 acre National Park in the East Branch of the Penobscot River Region.
     
    Be a voice of the region to examine the results of the feasibility study:
     
    Examine the qualifications of the proposed area for designation as a National Park.Understand the economic and social impacts to our area and the state.Examine the ability of the national park service to protect and manage the resource.Understand the educational opportunities provided by the national park service.
     
    Examine potential compromises that have sound business decisions on how to jointly promote eco-friendly tourist and manufacturing jobs in our region.
     
    Help with the disposition of the gift of land on the east side of the East Branch of the Penobscot River.
     
    We will conduct a campaign to facilitate all information possible to the public so that sound decisions can be made on whether or not to support this National Park.
     
    Bruce Cox: Co-chairman
    George McLaughlin: Co-chairman
    Greg Stanley: Assistant Chairman
    Quenten Clark: Secretary 
    Eleanor Dillingham: Treasurer
     

  • Anonymous

    NATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEE  
                                     
    We have formed an independent National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee to work in parallel with Roxanne Quimby and her Non-Profit Operating Foundation, Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to ensure that a feasibility study will be conducted for a National Park in the East Branch of the Penobscot River region.  
     
    Our goal is to have citizen representatives from many of the surrounding towns on this committee.   The members will meet monthly and as needed to formulate plans to promote the feasibility study and get educated on the values and regulations of a National Park.
     
    The independent committee will be organized with a Steering Committee, individual designated Committee Chairpeople as well as Members from the region.  The committee will be funded by donations from citizens and organizations.  Minutes, reports and agenda items will be generated at each meeting.
     
    We anticipate that we will need to conduct meetings with Senators, Congressional People, the Governor, the Department of Interior and possibly the President of the United States to promote the national park.
     
    MISSION STATEMENT:
     
    Rally the citizens, communities and businesses in the Katahdin Region and encourage them to support a feasibility study.  Area meetings will be conducted to communicate and report our findings to all.
     
    Thoroughly investigate the pro’s and con’s of supporting a 70,000 acre National Park in the East Branch of the Penobscot River Region.
     
    Be a voice of the region to examine the results of the feasibility study:
     
    Examine the qualifications of the proposed area for designation as a National Park.Understand the economic and social impacts to our area and the state.Examine the ability of the national park service to protect and manage the resource.Understand the educational opportunities provided by the national park service.
     
    Examine potential compromises that have sound business decisions on how to jointly promote eco-friendly tourist and manufacturing jobs in our region.
     
    Help with the disposition of the gift of land on the east side of the East Branch of the Penobscot River.
     
    We will conduct a campaign to facilitate all information possible to the public so that sound decisions can be made on whether or not to support this National Park.
     
    Bruce Cox: Co-chairman
    George McLaughlin: Co-chairman
    Greg Stanley: Assistant Chairman
    Quenten Clark: Secretary 
    Eleanor Dillingham: Treasurer
     

  • Anonymous

    NATIONAL PARK REGIONAL CITIZEN EVALUATION COMMITTEE  
                                     
    We have formed an independent National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee to work in parallel with Roxanne Quimby and her Non-Profit Operating Foundation, Elliotsville Plantation, Inc., to ensure that a feasibility study will be conducted for a National Park in the East Branch of the Penobscot River region.  
     
    Our goal is to have citizen representatives from many of the surrounding towns on this committee.   The members will meet monthly and as needed to formulate plans to promote the feasibility study and get educated on the values and regulations of a National Park.
     
    The independent committee will be organized with a Steering Committee, individual designated Committee Chairpeople as well as Members from the region.  The committee will be funded by donations from citizens and organizations.  Minutes, reports and agenda items will be generated at each meeting.
     
    We anticipate that we will need to conduct meetings with Senators, Congressional People, the Governor, the Department of Interior and possibly the President of the United States to promote the national park.
     
    MISSION STATEMENT:
     
    Rally the citizens, communities and businesses in the Katahdin Region and encourage them to support a feasibility study.  Area meetings will be conducted to communicate and report our findings to all.
     
    Thoroughly investigate the pro’s and con’s of supporting a 70,000 acre National Park in the East Branch of the Penobscot River Region.
     
    Be a voice of the region to examine the results of the feasibility study:
     
    Examine the qualifications of the proposed area for designation as a National Park.
    Understand the economic and social impacts to our area and the state.
    Examine the ability of the national park service to protect and manage the resource.
    Understand the educational opportunities provided by the national park service.
     
    Examine potential compromises that have sound business decisions on how to jointly promote eco-friendly tourist and manufacturing jobs in our region.
     
    Help with the disposition of the gift of land on the east side of the East Branch of the Penobscot River.
     
    We will conduct a campaign to facilitate all information possible to the public so that sound decisions can be made on whether or not to support this National Park.
     
    Bruce Cox: Co-chairman
    George McLaughlin: Co-chairman
    Greg Stanley: Assistant Chairman
    Quenten Clark: Secretary 
    Eleanor Dillingham: Treasurer

  • Anonymous

    See ya Millinocket!

  • Anonymous

    Like to see people take the initiative.. even when others may not agree.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone wants to know what there is in this area as a draw….well this guy explains it all out! Bravo to him!!

    http://video.ak.fbcdn.net/cfs-ak-ash4/232151/433/1458115669227_4867.mp4?oh=81d9d675c3345ba28cb56105950553c7&oe=4E3C8F00&__gda__=1312591616_3d02934c72b2a7dc4bca41afd336e17b

  • Anonymous

    don’t the medway selectmen have more important things to do like terrorize their office staff by cutting their hours and taking away their benefits?

  • Anonymous

    What animosity?

  • Anonymous

     It really sounds independent “ensure that a feasibility study is conducted for the proposed “? sounds like a forgone conclusion, not an independent study,

  • Anonymous

    yes, and she is going to allow a road to those sites, yea right.

  • Anonymous

    Read the few prevous articles as to cost, it does not state that the 20 or 40 million will be enough  to pay for the park.

  • Anonymous

    where have you been?

  • Anonymous

    I was trying to understand what Can’t afford 2 retire was saying about animosity, perhaps I stated my query incorrectly.

  • Anonymous

    More important things to do in Medway???……….LOL.

    Good one.

  • Anonymous

    More important things to do in Medway???……….LOL.

    Good one.

  • Anonymous

    More important things to do in Medway???……….LOL.

    Good one.

  • Anonymous

    More important things to do in Medway???……….LOL.

    Good one.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, I watched the clip. Is this supposed to mean something? 

  • Anonymous

    Ok, I watched the clip. Is this supposed to mean something? 

  • Anonymous

    Ok, I watched the clip. Is this supposed to mean something? 

  • Anonymous

    Ok, I watched the clip. Is this supposed to mean something? 

  • Anonymous

    Ok, I watched the clip. Is this supposed to mean something? 

  • Anonymous

    Ok, I watched the clip. Is this supposed to mean something? 

  • Anonymous

    This is so true. Why is this  ”Another 10 million acres of forestland nearby would be unaffected” alway thrown in to these articals? All I can make out from this is that the land being proposed will be affected by something.  If it is so wonderful than why bring up the unaffected land? 

  • Anonymous

    go for it medway, and if millinocket won’t get on board, leave em. let em have tumbleweed rodeos in a few years.

  • Anonymous

    well, thank goodness for the good people of Medway.  Maybe the town of Millinocket will actually sit up and listen to their small businesses.  Or not.  In which case, vote them out.  Conlogue has been around for too long.  If the area doesn’t get new life then it’s all going to die.  People, listen up, is that a better option?  I don’t think so.

  • Anonymous

    It’s great to see a community come together like this around an idea that will have such a positive impact on the local economy.  I can’t say that I feel bad for Millinocket anymore, because they had their chance and blew it.  Unfortunately, that town is sure to become a ghost town.

  • Anonymous

    What I gleaned from the Union meeting I attended today was that there is one “potential” buyer for the mill(s).    I have the “potential” to win the Megabucks.   Either would be nice but I’m not gonna get my hopes up.   

  • Anonymous

    What I gleaned from the Union meeting I attended today was that there is one “potential” buyer for the mill(s).    I have the “potential” to win the Megabucks.   Either would be nice but I’m not gonna get my hopes up.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

    ” The National Park Regional Citizen Evaluation Committee will have
    several subcommittees with an overall goal of examining the 70,000
    acres’ qualifications for designation as a national park and
    understanding a park’s potential economic and social impacts on the area
    and the state.”

    This is only a prelude to push Congress to authorize a feasibility study of the plan to create a National Park. ” Push Congress “? Good luck with that. In case you haven’t noticed, Congress is in no mood to even think about creating another National Park. As it stands now, funds and services have been cut with further cuts coming for existing National Parks ( U.S. Department of the Interior ) because of the ongoing budget crisis, and this is likely to continue for years.

    Even if successful, you’re looking at 10 years or more before a new park could be established and operating. Where will the good people of the Millinocket region be in 10 years without something happening this month,this year or even next year?

    Quimby is not concerned about your welfare. She knows this would take years or even decades to succeed. She is creating her legacy. Period.

    Economics 101: Manufacturing is the root of a growing economy. Period. Put your effort, and quickly, into restarting your mills and stop wasting valuable time on this folly. Unless of course you want your grandchildren to pursue careers as chambermaids, Irving cashiers or Wal-Mart associates.

  • Anonymous

    first it’s there is nothing up there and now it’s she won’t allow people in there. Hmmmm last I knew she was donating the land to the Department of the interior to become a National Park. They will have final say on where roads are built to what. I understand she holds a chair on the board of NP but she isn’t the only one. She actually said in not so many words that she wasn’t happy about the amount of roads that would be put in place on the property but understood it was what had to happen!

  • Anonymous

    those manufacturing jobs you spoke of may have on paper paid $16/hr after working there 34+years but after they paid their union dues, taxes and ridiculously over priced insurance they brought home less than a man making $12/hr for the same hours/week.

    Average between a 3 day and a 4 day week is $450/wk take home. Still under the federal poverty levels for a family of 4 with only 1 working in the mill.  So just exactly what high paying jobs are you talking about? Heck these guys are making more on unemployment then they brought home on a 3 day work week! Then getting food stamps and mainecare if they have children!

    I have yet to see anyone bringing high paying manufacturing jobs to the area…..other than trying to reopen the mills what other manufacturing jobs are being brought to the area? They are all gone over seas! Places where the environmental laws are lax and labor is cheap!

    I’d rather hope that my grandchildren will be running their own business!

  • Anonymous

    B A N  R O X A N N E

  • Anonymous

    It may not be known to some who recently joined her bandwagon, this has been going on for at least 10 years it not closer to 20. So some have been aware of her ploys for that long, and she has created a lot of animosity over her comments in that time period and recently.

  • Anonymous

    You will find that  pristine sites get looked at in a tougher stance. Though people walk to them now, so I could not see it a problem unless they have to go by the ADA.

  • Anonymous

    Idea. Since gambling is now legal in Maine, maybe wagers could be accepted on whether Quimby is actually a man or a woman. Then she could submit DNA as proof. The profits could then fund the park. It could be just like the moose permit drawing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1338104091 Sandra Overlock

    We do not need any more federal expenses.  This park would be one.  Let Ms Quimby keep the land and pay taxes. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1338104091 Sandra Overlock

    We do not need any more federal expenses.  This park would be one.  Let Ms Quimby keep the land and pay taxes. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1338104091 Sandra Overlock

    We do not need any more federal expenses.  This park would be one.  Let Ms Quimby keep the land and pay taxes. 

  • Anonymous

    Millinocket will become like the “ghost towns” of the old west that died when the mine ran out of silver or gold. They slowly died and were then abandoned. The buildings aged and eventually became minor tourist attractions or curiosities some on the way to bustling National Parks. 

    The era of log drives on the river and paper mills is over. Too bad, but someone should tell Millinocket. 

  • Anonymous

    If it comes down to a vote, I will vote for it.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • Anonymous

    It would not suprise me in the least me that someone or a group of some one’s harasses from this committee. I can speak from personal experience that if you don’t think, act, and voice your concerns the same as everyone else here in Millinocket your property gets vandalized, You have the police called on you for trumped up charges. I can remember 1 time i had Millinocket’s finest called on me because i supposedly was riding by this guys house yelling out obscenities, I must admit it was real hard for me to do this considering i was up to dead river fueling up my truck and after i payed the attendant i was talking with Millinocket’s finest for 10 minutes. When 1 of the officers responded to the dispatcher, the called had reported that I was still at this residents. Again kind of hard for me to do. All that unneeded attention just because i voiced a concern over a particular matter. For these 5 people i wish you the very best and expect a call from me expressing how i like the idea of a National Park here in the Katahdin Region.

  • yowsayowsa1

    Because she is getting older and her ego dictates that this be done in her lifetime.

     The BIG push is on to make this happen no matter what the locals or even the state of Maine people want.

     There is enough bull$hit flying from this Quimby/Restore;  crowd to make me start looking for a manure spreader.

  • yowsayowsa1

     She sure is handsome!

  • yowsayowsa1

     She sure is handsome!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1083833888 Peter Hilton

    In order to stop Maine’s brain drain, the steady out migration of its young folk, Quimby would have a battalion of burger flippers and parking lot attendants.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1083833888 Peter Hilton

    In order to stop Maine’s brain drain, the steady out migration of its young folk, Quimby would have a battalion of burger flippers and parking lot attendants.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1083833888 Peter Hilton

    In order to stop Maine’s brain drain, the steady out migration of its young folk, Quimby would have a battalion of burger flippers and parking lot attendants.

  • Anonymous

     What a hateful remark!  Hateful and ignorant: I’ll bet her children – imaginative, responsible and productive citizens in their own right would think so, too.

  • Anonymous

    A corporation gave it birth, a corporation gave it the coup de grace. No other corporation is interested. If there were one, it would have entered the picture by now. Time to make a shift or move on; what other choice is there?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the town of Millinocket will do any such thing. The Town Council refused to listen to local businesses then, Threatened the Millinocket Chamber Of Commerce to take away funding if they went ahead with a study. And to think WE voted these fine upstanding persons into office. Thank god over the next few years WE as towns people of Millinocket can correct that by voting into office people that will listen to what businesses we do have left in town and the towns people.

  • Anonymous

    Almost as funny as this statement “The Millinocket Town Coucil is great”

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Jenn, they were making a bit more than that…!

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links as well; they show the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=135873

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    Could be that they don’t want to get beaten up in the creditable reporting of the BDN

  • Anonymous

    And if the vote fails, will it end there…?

  • Anonymous

    I have got some good links showing the integrity of Roxanne
    http://www.wlbz2.com/news/loca

    They also show that national parks are in financial trouble
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    Roxanne’s feasibility study is a taxpayer funded study that comes with an already known conclusion-
    Once a feasibility is concluded, it bypasses local approval and starts direct path to a national park-

    If Roxanne is soooo committed to a park, then why doesn’t she open it up as a private park for a few years and then apply for national park status…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    My neighbor worked at the mill for over 35 years and that is exactly what he was bringing home after paying a family plan insurance for himself his wife and child, union dues and taxes.

  • Anonymous

    resorting to personal attacks? Yup that’s normal for a few of you.

  • MaineMountainLover

    A majority of Millinocket’s residents know that a Maine Woods National Park is the way to go. It’s the old, tired and fearful leaders of that depressed and sad town, along with the unimaginative and cowardly political leaders of this state, who are are still saying NO. Change is in the air and most everyone will soon be listening to the majority of Mainers with common sense who are saying YES. Acadia National Park, along our beautiful Downeast coast generates $135 million every year, at least for folks Downeast. And folks in that area have approx 3,000 jobs that would not be there without Acadia. A Maine Woods National Park will bring thousands of new jobs, hundreds of new businesses and lots of new residents who prefer to live near such protected parks, which will generate even more jobs than the new park itself! Good for you Medway, you folks are wise and open-minded and that is a good thing. A majority of Mainers, North and South, are with you and support a feasibility study for the much needed Maine Woods National Park.

  • MaineMountainLover

    A majority of Millinocket’s residents know that a Maine Woods National Park is the way to go. It’s the old, tired and fearful leaders of that depressed and sad town, along with the unimaginative and cowardly political leaders of this state, who are are still saying NO. Change is in the air and most everyone will soon be listening to the majority of Mainers with common sense who are saying YES. Acadia National Park, along our beautiful Downeast coast generates $135 million every year, at least for folks Downeast. And folks in that area have approx 3,000 jobs that would not be there without Acadia. A Maine Woods National Park will bring thousands of new jobs, hundreds of new businesses and lots of new residents who prefer to live near such protected parks, which will generate even more jobs than the new park itself! Good for you Medway, you folks are wise and open-minded and that is a good thing. A majority of Mainers, North and South, are with you and support a feasibility study for the much needed Maine Woods National Park.

  • MaineMountainLover

    A majority of Millinocket’s residents know that a Maine Woods National Park is the way to go. It’s the old, tired and fearful leaders of that depressed and sad town, along with the unimaginative and cowardly political leaders of this state, who are are still saying NO. Change is in the air and most everyone will soon be listening to the majority of Mainers with common sense who are saying YES. Acadia National Park, along our beautiful Downeast coast generates $135 million every year, at least for folks Downeast. And folks in that area have approx 3,000 jobs that would not be there without Acadia. A Maine Woods National Park will bring thousands of new jobs, hundreds of new businesses and lots of new residents who prefer to live near such protected parks, which will generate even more jobs than the new park itself! Good for you Medway, you folks are wise and open-minded and that is a good thing. A majority of Mainers, North and South, are with you and support a feasibility study for the much needed Maine Woods National Park.

  • MaineMountainLover

    A majority of Millinocket’s residents know that a Maine Woods National Park is the way to go. It’s the old, tired and fearful leaders of that depressed and sad town, along with the unimaginative and cowardly political leaders of this state, who are are still saying NO. Change is in the air and most everyone will soon be listening to the majority of Mainers with common sense who are saying YES. Acadia National Park, along our beautiful Downeast coast generates $135 million every year, at least for folks Downeast. And folks in that area have approx 3,000 jobs that would not be there without Acadia. A Maine Woods National Park will bring thousands of new jobs, hundreds of new businesses and lots of new residents who prefer to live near such protected parks, which will generate even more jobs than the new park itself! Good for you Medway, you folks are wise and open-minded and that is a good thing. A majority of Mainers, North and South, are with you and support a feasibility study for the much needed Maine Woods National Park.

  • Anonymous

    They do have to abide by the ADA.

  • Anonymous

    They do have to abide by the ADA.

  • Anonymous

    They do have to abide by the ADA.

  • MaineMountainLover

    Gee, Regina, you seem not to know the facts about national parks at all, as you likely have never visited one. I’ve been to a bunch, including Yellowstone this past June. People move to live near such parks and that actually creates more jobs than the park itself, for local home builders, plumbers, electricians, and all the services that new residents need along with the old ones. Also, some local folks would be starting new businesses too, not simply working for someone else. Unlike the depressing and false propaganda you wrote, the truth is that a big and beautiful national park is an engine of economic growth and opportunity! And we surely need that in Northern Maine!!!

  • Anonymous

    Probably not. After all it is her land and she can and WILL do with it what she pleases. If a park does not go in place than no one will access it ever just like whats going on in a few areas here already where access to lands are no longer obtainable due to this town’s council members ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    A majority…?
    Try again, you’re not even close….!

  • Anonymous

    Big mistake to make our Northern woods a National Park. The federal Government hasn’t the money or staff to manage what it has now never mind adding another National Park. Some people think this will provide jobs and it may but selling your sole to the devil isn’t the way to go.

  • Anonymous

    Big mistake to make our Northern woods a National Park. The federal Government hasn’t the money or staff to manage what it has now never mind adding another National Park. Some people think this will provide jobs and it may but selling your sole to the devil isn’t the way to go.

  • Anonymous

    Big mistake to make our Northern woods a National Park. The federal Government hasn’t the money or staff to manage what it has now never mind adding another National Park. Some people think this will provide jobs and it may but selling your sole to the devil isn’t the way to go.

  • Anonymous

    If Ms. Quimby wants to fund a feasibility study, then I’m for her going ahead with it. However, in this economy, with so many other pressing needs, I don’t see taking up new projects. The National Park Service can’t adequately fund Acadia, so why create yet another national park for them to run? 

  • Anonymous

    What is going to be the big draw for 70,000 acres of trees? Black flies in their natural habitate? Mosquitos using the roads for landing strips?

    Yellowstone has things to offer that no other park does. Arcadia has a mountain you can drive up, hiking trails, biking trails, beaches, scenic views, dozens of cruise ships that bring people there. Adn beautiful harbor town with shopping and eateries.

    Quimby’s land has …………. well, trees.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     The best conclusion money can buy.

     These turnips seem to think that they can trust a government entity that will appoint someone with NO qualifications (RQ) to their advisory board other than the ability to open her checkbook for the $billion re-election coffers of Barack Hussain Obama.

     I doubt that even the most liberal lefty could name a government bureaucracy that wouldn’t conclude that their power base should be added to.

  • yowsayowsa1

     That is a good reason to defund the UM system.

     Don’t need much edcashun to say “you want fries with that”.

     At least then most of the schools will be able to pass the NCLB testing.

  • yowsayowsa1

     That is a good reason to defund the UM system.

     Don’t need much edcashun to say “you want fries with that”.

     At least then most of the schools will be able to pass the NCLB testing.

  • yowsayowsa1

     That is a good reason to defund the UM system.

     Don’t need much edcashun to say “you want fries with that”.

     At least then most of the schools will be able to pass the NCLB testing.

  • yowsayowsa1

     That is a good reason to defund the UM system.

     Don’t need much edcashun to say “you want fries with that”.

     At least then most of the schools will be able to pass the NCLB testing.

  • yowsayowsa1

     That is a good reason to defund the UM system.

     Don’t need much edcashun to say “you want fries with that”.

     At least then most of the schools will be able to pass the NCLB testing.

  • yowsayowsa1

     That is a good reason to defund the UM system.

     Don’t need much edcashun to say “you want fries with that”.

     At least then most of the schools will be able to pass the NCLB testing.

  • Anonymous

    Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy, too?  Desperation over an economy that viros have done everything they could to destroy for decades because they hate industry does not somehow make their Federal Wilderness a substitute for a human economy, it is the final death blow, which is what the viros have wanted all along.

  • Anonymous

    Medway is drinking the Kool – Aid !!

  • Anonymous

    Medway is drinking the Kool – Aid !!

  • Anonymous

    That’s about the size of it…

  • Anonymous

    Quimby has already come out and admitted that 70,000 acres is nice, but bigger is better. The fact is that she “will not” commit to just 70,000 acres, she has over blown the job creation, caused more than enough animosity to warrant distrust and her minion have went overboard attacking those that don’t agree.

    Why do you think so many are saying Ban Roxanne…?

    .

  • Anonymous

    This is another BDN advocacy article promoting activists trying to panic people into going along with Federal control as a substitute for the economy — the same economy that the viros have been destroying with progressively accumulated social controls for decades because they don’t want a human economy. 

    Imagining National Park Service central power somehow creating a booming “economy” because of its presence does not override the laws of economics.  The National Park Service does not create new scenery and has a long record of false promises of “visitors” used to stampede people into going along with new Federal areas taking over what is already there — including private property taken by eminent doman. Government economic planning and control as economic salvation has always been fantasy — imagining doesn’t make it possible. 

    Wilderness is the opposite of a human economy.  Quimby and the viro pressure groups want wilderness.  The National Park Service has a very long history of imposing preservation to displace humans and recreation all over the country.  Look at what NPS and its pressure groups did to try to destroy the private Saddleback Ski Area near the Appalachian Trail in Maine and what it has done to force people to sell private property at Acadia.  The viro pressure groups want 10 million acres in Maine kept in “darkness” and have said so for decades.  Quimby has boasted that her “gift” intended to buy public policy is intended as a seed for the whole takeover.

    The recent promotions of Federal control for “the economy” are a disingenuous marketing scam to panic people into going along with their quarter century old failed agenda for Federal wilderness control.
     

  • Anonymous

    This is another BDN advocacy article promoting activists trying to panic people into going along with Federal control as a substitute for the economy — the same economy that the viros have been destroying with progressively accumulated social controls for decades because they don’t want a human economy. 

    Imagining National Park Service central power somehow creating a booming “economy” because of its presence does not override the laws of economics.  The National Park Service does not create new scenery and has a long record of false promises of “visitors” used to stampede people into going along with new Federal areas taking over what is already there — including private property taken by eminent doman. Government economic planning and control as economic salvation has always been fantasy — imagining doesn’t make it possible. 

    Wilderness is the opposite of a human economy.  Quimby and the viro pressure groups want wilderness.  The National Park Service has a very long history of imposing preservation to displace humans and recreation all over the country.  Look at what NPS and its pressure groups did to try to destroy the private Saddleback Ski Area near the Appalachian Trail in Maine and what it has done to force people to sell private property at Acadia.  The viro pressure groups want 10 million acres in Maine kept in “darkness” and have said so for decades.  Quimby has boasted that her “gift” intended to buy public policy is intended as a seed for the whole takeover.

    The recent promotions of Federal control for “the economy” are a disingenuous marketing scam to panic people into going along with their quarter century old failed agenda for Federal wilderness control.
     

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    Which one of the Lisa’s are you trying to be? The one that owned a truck and did have the police called on her for supposedly yelling obscenities at someone OR the one that has the user name KZ1551?  Just curious??

  • Anonymous

    The Quimby/Restore promotion of a “feasibility study” is a dishonest political tactic.

    There have already been several “studies” of this viro agenda, which is why it has been rejected for decades, and there is no need or justification for yet another “study” on behalf of Federal control for preservationism even if it were a legitimate “study”, which the Quimby/Restore notion is not.

    Quimby and Restore want NPS to control a poltically motivated Federal “study” with a preconceived outcome.  NPS New Area “feasibility studies” presuppose local support for the agenda by law.  NPS does not objectively “study” what the activists are telling us.  NPS uses boiler-plate temnplates for how it would run a new area, filled with boiler-plate rhetoric used to promote it.  NPS does not do objecive “studies”, it is all political.  Anyone who has seen NPS “studies” for new areas and expansions about an area with which he is familiar knows this.

    Quimby and Restore want to exploit an official NPS endorsement of their agenda in the name of a “study” to build political momentum for the agenda in a media campaign — just like the pressure groups did with the Northern Forests Lands Study and the Northern Forests Council, which tore the state apart for years.  There is nothing new in these dishonest, politically manipulative tactics.   Quimby,  Resotore and BDN are counting on you not realizing this.
     

  • Anonymous

    The National Park Service did not create Cadillac Mountain at Acadia or the local economy.  It has, however, been forcing private owners to sell to the government and its cohorts using the threat of eminent domain.  NPS also did not create Saddleback Mountain at the Appalachian Trail in Maine.  It did, however, harass and threaten the private Saddleback Ski Area for twenty years because it and its pressure groups want the whole mountain in wilderness.

  • Anonymous

    “MaineMountainLover” is a preservationist who has wanted Federal control for a very long time.  His smearing those who oppose his political agenda as “old, tired, fearful” people lacking “imagination” is not a logical argument.  This is a political campaign for power that has been rejected for good reason for decades.  Ignoring that and substituting “hope and change” is not rational.  “Imagining” utopia arising from Federal control is not rational.  The demand for an NPS controlled “feasibility study” is a demand for the takeover.

  • Anonymous

    It would not take a “battalion” to serve the trickle of wilderness backpackers Quimby and Restore want the land restricted to.  They have made it clear that they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration”.  But that was before they adopted the disingenuous marketing strategy packaging this nonsense as for “the economy”.

  • Anonymous

    Better yet, let her sell the land back to private owners and leave the state.  The Quimby Restore harassment threatening people with Federal control and trying to buy public policy by throwing Quimby’s money around for decades is worse than stalking.  She doesn’t belong here.

     

  • Anonymous

    Better yet, let her sell the land back to private owners and leave the state.  The Quimby Restore harassment threatening people with Federal control and trying to buy public policy by throwing Quimby’s money around for decades is worse than stalking.  She doesn’t belong here.

     

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t a “community coming together”.  It is a well-funded, sophisticated lobby from out of state trying to stamped local people into going along with an agenda for Federal control.  They need an appearance of local support in order to begin NPS planning for control and using it in a national media campaign to promote their agenda. 

    The same viro mentality that has been destroying industry and the economy for decades is now telling us to believe that they are for “the economy” by imposing Federal control in a drive to progressively restrict millions of acres of land to wilderness. The “businessmen” supporting this have been conned into thinking they will make a killing with a monopoly over a “gateway” at everyone else’s expense.  They have no right to impose a Federal takeover in Maine for what they imagine is their own gain, at others’ expense and all the irreversible problems that come with Federal control.

     

  • Anonymous

    The Council did listen to the promoters.  They had nothing new to say.  This nonsense has been promoted for a quarter of a century.  It has been “listened to” and “studied” to death since the NPS and its lobbyists’ plan to take over five enormous areas of Maine that they regard as a “top priority”.  The purpose from the beginning has been to take the land and revert it to wilderness through prohibition of human activity.  The loud claims repackaging it as for “the economy” are dishonest politicking intended to stampede the unwary.  There is nothing new about any of this.

  • Anonymous

    The Council did listen to the promoters.  They had nothing new to say.  This nonsense has been promoted for a quarter of a century.  It has been “listened to” and “studied” to death since the NPS and its lobbyists’ plan to take over five enormous areas of Maine that they regard as a “top priority”.  The purpose from the beginning has been to take the land and revert it to wilderness through prohibition of human activity.  The loud claims repackaging it as for “the economy” are dishonest politicking intended to stampede the unwary.  There is nothing new about any of this.

  • Anonymous

    The Council did listen to the promoters.  They had nothing new to say.  This nonsense has been promoted for a quarter of a century.  It has been “listened to” and “studied” to death since the NPS and its lobbyists’ plan to take over five enormous areas of Maine that they regard as a “top priority”.  The purpose from the beginning has been to take the land and revert it to wilderness through prohibition of human activity.  The loud claims repackaging it as for “the economy” are dishonest politicking intended to stampede the unwary.  There is nothing new about any of this.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby was appointed by Obama to the board of the National Parks Foundation, a government-created organization to promote the National Park Service.  Quimby is also allied with the Massachusetts wilderness lobby Restore.  She is well-connected with the national Federal park lobby and NPS officials.  She announced when she first started buying up land in Maine that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service and eliminate private ownership forever over millions of acres.  She banned traditional recreational use on her land not because she wanted to use the land for something else herself, but because she doesn’t want it used at all.

  • Anonymous

    They are not taking an initiative.  This is manipulated by the national lobby for Federal park expansion.  They set up “friends of the park” pressure groups all over the country.  The National Park Service itself has been caught encouraging and helping to organize them.

  • Anonymous

    Lisa Who,,I have no idea on who your talking about.

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    That is why these pressure groups keep coming back over and over.  They don’t care about votes and popular rejection for decades.  The Federal takeover of millions of acres in Maine has been a long term strategy from the beginning — they know that they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back.  They are worse than stalkers and very threatening..

  • Anonymous

    The loud claims repackaging it as for “the economy” are dishonest politicking intended to stampede the unwary. There is nothing new about any of this.      I really dont see how this is possible. Keep people out of the woods you say they why donate a bunch of land for a national park?  A national park invites people….

  • Anonymous

    The loud claims repackaging it as for “the economy” are dishonest politicking intended to stampede the unwary. There is nothing new about any of this.      I really dont see how this is possible. Keep people out of the woods you say they why donate a bunch of land for a national park?  A national park invites people….

  • Anonymous

    Like I clearly said the one that has had the user name KZ1551 for YEARS or the other one that had a truck. I haven’t heard too many people have the exact same story about being at deadriver pumping gas yet being accused of yelling obscenities all while chatting with a MPD officer when paying for their gas.

    Amazing to be honest that the exact same thing happened to you don’t you think?

  • Anonymous

    Like I clearly said the one that has had the user name KZ1551 for YEARS or the other one that had a truck. I haven’t heard too many people have the exact same story about being at deadriver pumping gas yet being accused of yelling obscenities all while chatting with a MPD officer when paying for their gas.

    Amazing to be honest that the exact same thing happened to you don’t you think?

  • Anonymous

    Obviously this activist group is not “independent”.  They openly adulate Rozanne Quimby and are promoting NPS to begin the planning process for a takeover.  If they were legitimately interested in the adverse affects of Federal control they would have learned something about it long before now.  This has been going on for a quarter of a century.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously this activist group is not “independent”.  They openly adulate Rozanne Quimby and are promoting NPS to begin the planning process for a takeover.  If they were legitimately interested in the adverse affects of Federal control they would have learned something about it long before now.  This has been going on for a quarter of a century.

  • Anonymous

    LMAO you have no idea! These people happened to be at a local restaurant together and chatted about the park. They decided to be a step ahead of the park.

    Not everything is a big conspiracy….

    Toooooo flippin funny!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    Maybe roxanne should just buy all the land she can….fence it off and keep everyone out! What then???

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    It started in 1988 when the National Park Service lobby in collaboration with the National Park Service itself released and promoted plans for an enormous expansion nation-wide, including as a top priority millions of acres of private property in Maine.  The plan was designed to continue with the massive takeovers and condemnation of private property in the 1970s.  

    After the plans went down in flames because people found out what it meant Quimby boasted, when she first started buying land in the 1990s, that she intended to flip it to the National Park Service to lock it up forever as wilderness and that this was intended only as a “down payment” for the rest.  She resigned from the board of the radical organization Restore only to try to moderate her image and has remained well-connect with the Federal park lobby nationally.

    None of her goals have changed and none of this is new, despite the pretense that it a new idea for “the economy” as they try to repackage the campaign to exploit people’s fears of a declining economy in Maine that the viros themselves have caused for decades.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Anonymous

    Guess that means their won’t be a road there  then.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Maine does not want a new well equiped National Park, that will compete with the run down state parks it already has. Good luck with getting it, it should be like trying to run in 4 foot deep jello.

  • Anonymous

    why won’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is a private land owner!

  • Anonymous

    Watch it someone will call  you a fear monger or worse for speaking the trutch.

  • Anonymous

    Because she does not like roads. Just read her writings and know what she really wants.

  • Anonymous

    They are trying to deny the controversy they have already created and hope people don’t notice the contradictions or realize what they are doing.  They know very well what this is intended to accomplish but don’t want you to know.

    They keep denying the role of “10 million acres” because they are trying to pretend that Quimby’s “seed” has nothing to do with the Federal park agenda for the rest that the pressure groups mysteriously aren’t talking about for the moment — except when they oppose abolishing LURC because they want Maine to be in “darkness”, but you aren’t supposed to notice the connection and that LURC is intended to tie up the land until the Federal government can take it over. 

    They are promoting the Quimby “seed” only because the strategy of taking it all at once did not work and has been replaced by incrementalism.  They are trying to buy public policy with Quimby’s money and are trying to eliminate from public discussion the role of imposing Federal control over private property by pretending it only involves Quimby’s land.

  • Anonymous

    People cannot decide in a vacume of knowledge.  The pressure groups have been campaigning for a Federal takeover for decades and don’t want knowledgeable people showing the fallacies – such as the con game inherent in a “feasibility study” run by the government for a pre-conceived agenda, or what the National Park Service has done to people elsewhere in Maine and across the country, or the history and goals of the Federal park campaign in Maine for decades, or Quimby’s own history and radical wilderness goals.  They want a “do-over” because people caught on to them.   They want their own history to be ignored.  The viro pressure groups always object when local people look elsewhere for experience and help.  They dismiss knowledge as “talking points” because they don’t want anything getting in the way of their political power grab as they try to steamroll people.

    The same goes for BDN.  A legitimate news organization would welcome and appreciate other sources of knowledge.  Quimby is useful for the BDN advocacy articles because they want a Federal park takeover.  BDN wants to promote Quimby in glowing terms, promoting this politically radical power-seeker trying to buy public policy to change the form of government to Federal control as if she were some kind of “idealistic” crusader.

    Bringing Federal control in to eliminate private property rights, local government, and the private economy has serious implications for everyone.  It is not just a “local” matter to decide to let the Federal government take over a part of the state and change the form of government to more statism.

     

  • Anonymous

    National Park Service New Area “feasibility studies” are paid for by taxpayers through Congressional appropriations when Congress authorizes NPS New Area planning.  It is illegal for an individual like Quimby to try to buy a government study by providing the funding.  She can give money to the Treasury if she wants to but private individuals do not (legally) direct government expenditures.  It is bad enough that National Park Service officials have been collaborating with the lobbyists, would be given money to “study” the agency’s own expansion, and that the out of state, national park and wilderness lobby is pouring money into this campaign to influence the outcome.

  • Anonymous

    National Park Service New Area “feasibility studies” are paid for by taxpayers through Congressional appropriations when Congress authorizes NPS New Area planning.  It is illegal for an individual like Quimby to try to buy a government study by providing the funding.  She can give money to the Treasury if she wants to but private individuals do not (legally) direct government expenditures.  It is bad enough that National Park Service officials have been collaborating with the lobbyists, would be given money to “study” the agency’s own expansion, and that the out of state, national park and wilderness lobby is pouring money into this campaign to influence the outcome.

  • Anonymous

    Some Maine state parks are, ironically, much better run than National Parks.  The National Park Service is billions of dollars behind in maintenance and rehabilitation and the expansionists don’t care — they want to expand the empire with more land.  Land taken over for wilderness does not cost as much to maintain, but NPS bureaucracy is less than effective and efficient.  They are also power seekers who overrun state interests in many ways, to say nothing of individuals who get in the way of what they call “nationally significant”.  The problem with the National Park Service is not that it is “better”.

  • http://www.landrights.org Chuck Cushman

    The proposal for a new National Park around the Baxter State Park area will cost thousands of jobs, sell out the tax base for a large part of Maine, lock out snowmobiles and other forms of recreation.  Ultimately the area will be turned into Legal Restricted Wilderness Areas where only the young and fit can go.  No vehicles.  The disabled, handicapped, elderly and younger children need not apply.   Why trade local control for top down command and control from Washington, DC?  The Park Service has a terrible record of being a very bad neighbor.  Does anyone in Maine remember how hard it was to save Saddleback Mountain Ski Area from the Park Service only ten years ago?  Vote no on a new national park.  Save your tax base.  Protect your access.  Don’t get locked out.

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t “funny” when people who “happen” to be “chatting” with no knowledge of what they are being influenced to do — despite decades of discussion of this campaign — come up with “conclusions” that just “happen” to coincide with Quimby’s dishonest spin, and they just “happen” to have the means to run a state-wide organization to manipulate public opinion.  We weren’t born yesterday and neither was this campaign.

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t “funny” when people who “happen” to be “chatting” with no knowledge of what they are being influenced to do — despite decades of discussion of this campaign — come up with “conclusions” that just “happen” to coincide with Quimby’s dishonest spin, and they just “happen” to have the means to run a state-wide organization to manipulate public opinion.  We weren’t born yesterday and neither was this campaign.

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t “funny” when people who “happen” to be “chatting” with no knowledge of what they are being influenced to do — despite decades of discussion of this campaign — come up with “conclusions” that just “happen” to coincide with Quimby’s dishonest spin, and they just “happen” to have the means to run a state-wide organization to manipulate public opinion.  We weren’t born yesterday and neither was this campaign.

  • Anonymous

    That is what she has been doing, although she can’t get the millions of acres she wants that way.  Legally she has the right to do it within the scale she can afford, privately, even though her wilderness fanaticism is morally reprehensible and destructive.  She is despised for good reason.  But she does not have the “right” to make public policy changing the form of government by “giving” land to the National Park Service in order to permanently eliminate private property rights, representative government, and a private economy.

  • Anonymous

    That is what she has been doing, although she can’t get the millions of acres she wants that way.  Legally she has the right to do it within the scale she can afford, privately, even though her wilderness fanaticism is morally reprehensible and destructive.  She is despised for good reason.  But she does not have the “right” to make public policy changing the form of government by “giving” land to the National Park Service in order to permanently eliminate private property rights, representative government, and a private economy.

  • Anonymous

    That is what she has been doing, although she can’t get the millions of acres she wants that way.  Legally she has the right to do it within the scale she can afford, privately, even though her wilderness fanaticism is morally reprehensible and destructive.  She is despised for good reason.  But she does not have the “right” to make public policy changing the form of government by “giving” land to the National Park Service in order to permanently eliminate private property rights, representative government, and a private economy.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is exploiting the real estate market in order to destroy private property.  She boasted from the beginning that she was buying land to flip it to the National Park Service.  The contradiction is hers.  

    Quimby is opposed to private property rights on principle.  She told Yankee Magazine three years ago: “To me, ownership and private property were the beginning of the end in this country. Once the Europeans came in, drawing lines and dividing things up, things started getting exploited and overconsumed. But a park takes away the whole issue of ownership. It’s off the table; we all own it and we all share it. It’s so democratic.

  • Anonymous

    The National Park Service and its lobby has a long history of controlling the parks for preservation over recreation.  They do not want people, they want wilderness backpackers in small numbers.  They always promote new Federal areas as for the people in order to drum up support, then push to keep people out once they get it.

    The goal of Quimby and Restore is Federally imposed wilderness “ecosystem restoration”.  That is where the name “Restore” comes from.  They impose Federal Wilderness or its equivalent everywhere they can on Federal land.  National Park System control maximizes their power to do that, but the trend is the same for all the Federal land management agencies.

    Quimby’s claims that she is doing this for “the economy” are false and dishonest.  She wants wilderness.

    The point about the Council is that the activists for Federal control were listened to, but not over and over and over with nothing new to say, trying to dominate the meetings as a platform for their repetitive and deceptive campaign.

  • Anonymous

    The National Park Service and its lobby has a long history of controlling the parks for preservation over recreation.  They do not want people, they want wilderness backpackers in small numbers.  They always promote new Federal areas as for the people in order to drum up support, then push to keep people out once they get it.

    The goal of Quimby and Restore is Federally imposed wilderness “ecosystem restoration”.  That is where the name “Restore” comes from.  They impose Federal Wilderness or its equivalent everywhere they can on Federal land.  National Park System control maximizes their power to do that, but the trend is the same for all the Federal land management agencies.

    Quimby’s claims that she is doing this for “the economy” are false and dishonest.  She wants wilderness.

    The point about the Council is that the activists for Federal control were listened to, but not over and over and over with nothing new to say, trying to dominate the meetings as a platform for their repetitive and deceptive campaign.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Jenn, but I know many that made twice that.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve following and commenting on this subject for a few days.   I’m reading comments that run a wide gamut.  Pro or con.  Reasons why we shouldn’t have a park.  Reasons why we should.  The main questions that should be posed are:  What does everyone think is going to happen if the mills don’t get sold?  What are people going to do to survive?   

    I know people want the mills to start up.  But, with only one remaining interested party, this may not happen.   Even then it’s only going to be 400 to 500 jobs.  If they’re sold good.   I hope they are.  I hope they do start.  But, what if they’re not sold?  What if they don’t start?  Not now , now ever?   What then?  What happens to the Katahdin region then? 

     I realize quite a few people don’t want a tourist based economy.   I’ve had ideas thrown at me about the foundry or a similar metal based operation.  Yeah, this is a feasable idea.  But how many could it possibly employ?   The area needs hundreds of manufacturing jobs not dozens.   If the manufacturing jobs don’t materialize, what then.   What’s left?   Entrepreneurship would be one aspect.   There are talented people in the area.   Small business?   Will the locals alone support small businesses?    Can small businesses survive, let alone thrive, on local customers alone?   Tourists could make all the difference for these businesses.  

    People complain that they won’t be able to use the land in the traditional ways as they had before.
    When no one is making any money or they have to travel across the State to get work  how can they enjoy the area anyway?   But, if they had the chance to stay here, to make money here, shouldn’t that be the way to go?  

  • Anonymous

    I’ve following and commenting on this subject for a few days.   I’m reading comments that run a wide gamut.  Pro or con.  Reasons why we shouldn’t have a park.  Reasons why we should.  The main questions that should be posed are:  What does everyone think is going to happen if the mills don’t get sold?  What are people going to do to survive?   

    I know people want the mills to start up.  But, with only one remaining interested party, this may not happen.   Even then it’s only going to be 400 to 500 jobs.  If they’re sold good.   I hope they are.  I hope they do start.  But, what if they’re not sold?  What if they don’t start?  Not now , now ever?   What then?  What happens to the Katahdin region then? 

     I realize quite a few people don’t want a tourist based economy.   I’ve had ideas thrown at me about the foundry or a similar metal based operation.  Yeah, this is a feasable idea.  But how many could it possibly employ?   The area needs hundreds of manufacturing jobs not dozens.   If the manufacturing jobs don’t materialize, what then.   What’s left?   Entrepreneurship would be one aspect.   There are talented people in the area.   Small business?   Will the locals alone support small businesses?    Can small businesses survive, let alone thrive, on local customers alone?   Tourists could make all the difference for these businesses.  

    People complain that they won’t be able to use the land in the traditional ways as they had before.
    When no one is making any money or they have to travel across the State to get work  how can they enjoy the area anyway?   But, if they had the chance to stay here, to make money here, shouldn’t that be the way to go?  

  • Anonymous

    I’ve following and commenting on this subject for a few days.   I’m reading comments that run a wide gamut.  Pro or con.  Reasons why we shouldn’t have a park.  Reasons why we should.  The main questions that should be posed are:  What does everyone think is going to happen if the mills don’t get sold?  What are people going to do to survive?   

    I know people want the mills to start up.  But, with only one remaining interested party, this may not happen.   Even then it’s only going to be 400 to 500 jobs.  If they’re sold good.   I hope they are.  I hope they do start.  But, what if they’re not sold?  What if they don’t start?  Not now , now ever?   What then?  What happens to the Katahdin region then? 

     I realize quite a few people don’t want a tourist based economy.   I’ve had ideas thrown at me about the foundry or a similar metal based operation.  Yeah, this is a feasable idea.  But how many could it possibly employ?   The area needs hundreds of manufacturing jobs not dozens.   If the manufacturing jobs don’t materialize, what then.   What’s left?   Entrepreneurship would be one aspect.   There are talented people in the area.   Small business?   Will the locals alone support small businesses?    Can small businesses survive, let alone thrive, on local customers alone?   Tourists could make all the difference for these businesses.  

    People complain that they won’t be able to use the land in the traditional ways as they had before.
    When no one is making any money or they have to travel across the State to get work  how can they enjoy the area anyway?   But, if they had the chance to stay here, to make money here, shouldn’t that be the way to go?  

  • Anonymous

    I’ve following and commenting on this subject for a few days.   I’m reading comments that run a wide gamut.  Pro or con.  Reasons why we shouldn’t have a park.  Reasons why we should.  The main questions that should be posed are:  What does everyone think is going to happen if the mills don’t get sold?  What are people going to do to survive?   

    I know people want the mills to start up.  But, with only one remaining interested party, this may not happen.   Even then it’s only going to be 400 to 500 jobs.  If they’re sold good.   I hope they are.  I hope they do start.  But, what if they’re not sold?  What if they don’t start?  Not now , now ever?   What then?  What happens to the Katahdin region then? 

     I realize quite a few people don’t want a tourist based economy.   I’ve had ideas thrown at me about the foundry or a similar metal based operation.  Yeah, this is a feasable idea.  But how many could it possibly employ?   The area needs hundreds of manufacturing jobs not dozens.   If the manufacturing jobs don’t materialize, what then.   What’s left?   Entrepreneurship would be one aspect.   There are talented people in the area.   Small business?   Will the locals alone support small businesses?    Can small businesses survive, let alone thrive, on local customers alone?   Tourists could make all the difference for these businesses.  

    People complain that they won’t be able to use the land in the traditional ways as they had before.
    When no one is making any money or they have to travel across the State to get work  how can they enjoy the area anyway?   But, if they had the chance to stay here, to make money here, shouldn’t that be the way to go?  

  • yowsayowsa1

     If you take a look at the people that have come out in favor of this, you will invariably find that their business or job will be enhanced by a national park.
     
     While that may not be a bad thing to look at, the big picture is that wood manufacturing will be adversely impacted along with the skilled higher paying jobs that go along with it.

     We may as well also start winding down any higher learning centers such as UMPI, UMFK,and NMTC, because it doesn’t take much schooling to teach people to say “you want fries with that” and there’s not much point in spending money on  a child’s higher learning if they are going to leave and take their education with them.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Councilman ___ oh wait I mean ewv ( hahahaha) we all heard your opinion on KAT .  You might have fooled the rest of your council. But, then again that doesn’t take much – your Superintendent fooled you all into believing he had 60 Chinese kids to save your schools too.  The facts are this : IT’S HER LAND She can do whatever she wants with it. IT’S HER LAND she can lock out anyone she wants. IT’S HER LAND and all she has to do is convince Obama, Snowe, and Collins it’s a good idea and the study will be done.  YOUR Millinocket piece of paper, MEDWAY’S piece of paper, THE FOREST ORGANIZATIONS piece of paper. Are only 3 wasted pieces of Chinese made paper. And are totally a waste of time, energy, and trees.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Councilman ___ oh wait I mean ewv ( hahahaha) we all heard your opinion on KAT .  You might have fooled the rest of your council. But, then again that doesn’t take much – your Superintendent fooled you all into believing he had 60 Chinese kids to save your schools too.  The facts are this : IT’S HER LAND She can do whatever she wants with it. IT’S HER LAND she can lock out anyone she wants. IT’S HER LAND and all she has to do is convince Obama, Snowe, and Collins it’s a good idea and the study will be done.  YOUR Millinocket piece of paper, MEDWAY’S piece of paper, THE FOREST ORGANIZATIONS piece of paper. Are only 3 wasted pieces of Chinese made paper. And are totally a waste of time, energy, and trees.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Councilman ___ oh wait I mean ewv ( hahahaha) we all heard your opinion on KAT .  You might have fooled the rest of your council. But, then again that doesn’t take much – your Superintendent fooled you all into believing he had 60 Chinese kids to save your schools too.  The facts are this : IT’S HER LAND She can do whatever she wants with it. IT’S HER LAND she can lock out anyone she wants. IT’S HER LAND and all she has to do is convince Obama, Snowe, and Collins it’s a good idea and the study will be done.  YOUR Millinocket piece of paper, MEDWAY’S piece of paper, THE FOREST ORGANIZATIONS piece of paper. Are only 3 wasted pieces of Chinese made paper. And are totally a waste of time, energy, and trees.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Councilman ___ oh wait I mean ewv ( hahahaha) we all heard your opinion on KAT .  You might have fooled the rest of your council. But, then again that doesn’t take much – your Superintendent fooled you all into believing he had 60 Chinese kids to save your schools too.  The facts are this : IT’S HER LAND She can do whatever she wants with it. IT’S HER LAND she can lock out anyone she wants. IT’S HER LAND and all she has to do is convince Obama, Snowe, and Collins it’s a good idea and the study will be done.  YOUR Millinocket piece of paper, MEDWAY’S piece of paper, THE FOREST ORGANIZATIONS piece of paper. Are only 3 wasted pieces of Chinese made paper. And are totally a waste of time, energy, and trees.

  • Anonymous

    As the wife of a mill worker Can’t afford you are only right on 3 accounts. One the bosses. Two someone that works 30 hours a week of overtime! And 3 certain operators.  And had Meriturn got their grubby fingers in the door that 16.59 an hour would have been 14.59 tops.  Claiming married and 3 those are indeed the correct amts. after taxes , union dues, and $180 a week in insurance. Which also does not take into consideration the $20 co-pay at the docs to get the script. Which doesn’t include the $25 a month co-pay  on drugs, and the $7.99 a month on certain other drugs. 

  • Anonymous

    Councilman get real … even if East Mill, Medway, Woodville, Lincoln, Patten, Houlton, Smirna Mills, Stacyville and every citizen there in sent a paper supporting the study. It is only a waste of paper and possibly a money maker for the Post Office! The Federal Government will do whatever they want, and with the current bunch of thieves in Washington DC handing them 20 million dollars…?? Really… quit wasting paper, they spent that 20 million yesterday!

  • Anonymous

    Councilman get real … even if East Mill, Medway, Woodville, Lincoln, Patten, Houlton, Smirna Mills, Stacyville and every citizen there in sent a paper supporting the study. It is only a waste of paper and possibly a money maker for the Post Office! The Federal Government will do whatever they want, and with the current bunch of thieves in Washington DC handing them 20 million dollars…?? Really… quit wasting paper, they spent that 20 million yesterday!

  • Anonymous

    Councilman get real … even if East Mill, Medway, Woodville, Lincoln, Patten, Houlton, Smirna Mills, Stacyville and every citizen there in sent a paper supporting the study. It is only a waste of paper and possibly a money maker for the Post Office! The Federal Government will do whatever they want, and with the current bunch of thieves in Washington DC handing them 20 million dollars…?? Really… quit wasting paper, they spent that 20 million yesterday!

  • Anonymous

    Councilman get real … even if East Mill, Medway, Woodville, Lincoln, Patten, Houlton, Smirna Mills, Stacyville and every citizen there in sent a paper supporting the study. It is only a waste of paper and possibly a money maker for the Post Office! The Federal Government will do whatever they want, and with the current bunch of thieves in Washington DC handing them 20 million dollars…?? Really… quit wasting paper, they spent that 20 million yesterday!

  • Anonymous

    Councilman get real … even if East Mill, Medway, Woodville, Lincoln, Patten, Houlton, Smirna Mills, Stacyville and every citizen there in sent a paper supporting the study. It is only a waste of paper and possibly a money maker for the Post Office! The Federal Government will do whatever they want, and with the current bunch of thieves in Washington DC handing them 20 million dollars…?? Really… quit wasting paper, they spent that 20 million yesterday!

  • Anonymous

    Councilman get real … even if East Mill, Medway, Woodville, Lincoln, Patten, Houlton, Smirna Mills, Stacyville and every citizen there in sent a paper supporting the study. It is only a waste of paper and possibly a money maker for the Post Office! The Federal Government will do whatever they want, and with the current bunch of thieves in Washington DC handing them 20 million dollars…?? Really… quit wasting paper, they spent that 20 million yesterday!

  • Anonymous

    SassyJenn took me about 2 sec’s to figure out who I just matched up the typing to the old forum! You were 100% correct.

  • Anonymous

    Haha Bruce watch KAT he was called exactly that!

  • Anonymous

    OMG how hilarious… you people really believe that someone with an net worth like hers – Is a dumocrat? Dumocrats only want to tax the rich, Dumocrats are for the working man . Working man meaning them men that buy atv’s , snow sleds, motor boats, and hunt and fish. And you still believe that Quimby would donate to the OBUMA administration or vote for him? Why? Because he appointed her to a job? Get real he appointed the wrong people to every seat he filled! Why would her appointment be any different?

  • Anonymous

    OMG how hilarious… you people really believe that someone with an net worth like hers – Is a dumocrat? Dumocrats only want to tax the rich, Dumocrats are for the working man . Working man meaning them men that buy atv’s , snow sleds, motor boats, and hunt and fish. And you still believe that Quimby would donate to the OBUMA administration or vote for him? Why? Because he appointed her to a job? Get real he appointed the wrong people to every seat he filled! Why would her appointment be any different?

  • Anonymous

    OMG how hilarious… you people really believe that someone with an net worth like hers – Is a dumocrat? Dumocrats only want to tax the rich, Dumocrats are for the working man . Working man meaning them men that buy atv’s , snow sleds, motor boats, and hunt and fish. And you still believe that Quimby would donate to the OBUMA administration or vote for him? Why? Because he appointed her to a job? Get real he appointed the wrong people to every seat he filled! Why would her appointment be any different?

  • Anonymous

    OMG how hilarious… you people really believe that someone with an net worth like hers – Is a dumocrat? Dumocrats only want to tax the rich, Dumocrats are for the working man . Working man meaning them men that buy atv’s , snow sleds, motor boats, and hunt and fish. And you still believe that Quimby would donate to the OBUMA administration or vote for him? Why? Because he appointed her to a job? Get real he appointed the wrong people to every seat he filled! Why would her appointment be any different?

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

    Reopening specific mills versus a National Park Service takeover promising money is a false alternative.  The choice is a free society with any kind of private economy in Maine versus Federal control locking up the land forever.  The problems of the current economy — which is largely caused by the same mentality of “control, tax and prohibit” in the viro pressure groups who have pushed for a Federal park takeover for decades — are not solved by a desperate leap into Federal control with “hope and change”, nor is there any return from that.  This is not a dress rehearsal — Quimby and the park lobby want power and they mean it.  Instead, get the monkey off our backs.  In a free society the nature of business is not dictated in advance: people are left free to productively pursue their own ideas, not told what not to do or else, with evacuation and Federal wilderness the alternative.  Don’t temporarize over the mills, as important as that is there is much more at stake if you want to live.

    The wilderness advocates are trying exploit people’s fears of the current economy to round them up and stampede them into the abyss they have wanted for decades.  They don’t want an economy.  To them, acceptable “tourism” is a handful of backpacker wilderness hikers. They want wilderness for themselves and their own cohorts, some of whom they expect to live like feudalists off a “gateway” monopoly at everyone else’s expense once the land is gone.

    If the choice in this country at the beginning had been freedom and fear of an unknown future economy versus wilderness control promising utopia, the country never would have been settled and there would be no economy.  That is what Quimby and Restore would have preferred — they want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and they know how to get it. That has been the purpose since the beginning.  If Quimby thought that her land would be used for human recreation and a prosperous private economy she wouldn’t be doing this.

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    Business classes for those who actually want to run their own business instead of working for someone….that is where the money is going to be! Owning your own business!

  • Anonymous

    Business classes for those who actually want to run their own business instead of working for someone….that is where the money is going to be! Owning your own business!

  • Anonymous

    Business classes for those who actually want to run their own business instead of working for someone….that is where the money is going to be! Owning your own business!

  • Anonymous

    Business classes for those who actually want to run their own business instead of working for someone….that is where the money is going to be! Owning your own business!

  • Anonymous

    Business classes for those who actually want to run their own business instead of working for someone….that is where the money is going to be! Owning your own business!

  • Anonymous

    Business classes for those who actually want to run their own business instead of working for someone….that is where the money is going to be! Owning your own business!

  • Anonymous

    Business classes for those who actually want to run their own business instead of working for someone….that is where the money is going to be! Owning your own business!

  • Anonymous

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    I guess the question is WHY would anyone want to use someone else’s user name + a letter? Or use things that happened to someone else like it happened to them?

  • Anonymous

    I guess the question is WHY would anyone want to use someone else’s user name + a letter? Or use things that happened to someone else like it happened to them?

  • Anonymous

    I guess the question is WHY would anyone want to use someone else’s user name + a letter? Or use things that happened to someone else like it happened to them?

  • Anonymous

    Federal wilderness does not permit roads or motorized vehicles including for recreation.  That is what Quimby and Restore want and has been the trend for Federal lands pushed and imposed by the activist pressure groups nationally for decades.  If Quimby gets National Park Service control it is the beginning of the end no matter what restrictions they impose at first.  The controls are always ratcheted up over time, and with top-down control from Washington there is nothing you can do about it.  That’s why they want it.

  • Anonymous

    Federal wilderness does not permit roads or motorized vehicles including for recreation.  That is what Quimby and Restore want and has been the trend for Federal lands pushed and imposed by the activist pressure groups nationally for decades.  If Quimby gets National Park Service control it is the beginning of the end no matter what restrictions they impose at first.  The controls are always ratcheted up over time, and with top-down control from Washington there is nothing you can do about it.  That’s why they want it.

  • Anonymous

    Federal wilderness does not permit roads or motorized vehicles including for recreation.  That is what Quimby and Restore want and has been the trend for Federal lands pushed and imposed by the activist pressure groups nationally for decades.  If Quimby gets National Park Service control it is the beginning of the end no matter what restrictions they impose at first.  The controls are always ratcheted up over time, and with top-down control from Washington there is nothing you can do about it.  That’s why they want it.

  • Anonymous

    Federal wilderness does not permit roads or motorized vehicles including for recreation.  That is what Quimby and Restore want and has been the trend for Federal lands pushed and imposed by the activist pressure groups nationally for decades.  If Quimby gets National Park Service control it is the beginning of the end no matter what restrictions they impose at first.  The controls are always ratcheted up over time, and with top-down control from Washington there is nothing you can do about it.  That’s why they want it.

  • Anonymous

    Federal wilderness does not permit roads or motorized vehicles including for recreation.  That is what Quimby and Restore want and has been the trend for Federal lands pushed and imposed by the activist pressure groups nationally for decades.  If Quimby gets National Park Service control it is the beginning of the end no matter what restrictions they impose at first.  The controls are always ratcheted up over time, and with top-down control from Washington there is nothing you can do about it.  That’s why they want it.

  • Anonymous

    Federal wilderness does not permit roads or motorized vehicles including for recreation.  That is what Quimby and Restore want and has been the trend for Federal lands pushed and imposed by the activist pressure groups nationally for decades.  If Quimby gets National Park Service control it is the beginning of the end no matter what restrictions they impose at first.  The controls are always ratcheted up over time, and with top-down control from Washington there is nothing you can do about it.  That’s why they want it.

  • Anonymous

    Federal wilderness does not permit roads or motorized vehicles including for recreation.  That is what Quimby and Restore want and has been the trend for Federal lands pushed and imposed by the activist pressure groups nationally for decades.  If Quimby gets National Park Service control it is the beginning of the end no matter what restrictions they impose at first.  The controls are always ratcheted up over time, and with top-down control from Washington there is nothing you can do about it.  That’s why they want it.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    You should get out more. National Parks are well maintained, they have paved roads, excellent trail and hiking systems. I get the impression that you do not like change let alone positive progress, too bad. NPS has lots to offer.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    You should get out more. National Parks are well maintained, they have paved roads, excellent trail and hiking systems. I get the impression that you do not like change let alone positive progress, too bad. NPS has lots to offer.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    You should get out more. National Parks are well maintained, they have paved roads, excellent trail and hiking systems. I get the impression that you do not like change let alone positive progress, too bad. NPS has lots to offer.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    You well represent the opposition.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    You well represent the opposition.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    You well represent the opposition.

  • Anonymous

    National Parks have roads like Acadia has the road to the top of Cadillac mountain and the loop….CARS (motorized vehicles) DRIVE on them all the time!

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what us folks here will say if we do get this park,,I retract everything i said.Oh by the way,,thank you sassyjenn a.k.a onesassymoma.aka Jenn A, M. for your help and giving me the name,,, and what to say and how to say it.

  • Anonymous

    You didn’t answer my question.  If I wanted rhetoric I would watch CNN or MSNBC.   If the supposed deal with the mill(s) falls through, what are the people in the region expected to do?  If there are no jobs other than service sector jobs this area will die.   Then a national park will be a moot point.

  • Anonymous

    There is a link above with a guy telling exactly what the land has to offer. There are 5 different sets of falls different portages and views like no other, ones he claims are as good the ones in Colorado.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the devil is interested in peoples feet!

  • Anonymous

    It does answer your question.  The National Park Service does not create what is already there, it takes over: Federal wilderness is not an economy.  A desperate surrender to it  for “hope and change” will not solve the problem.  Don’t temporize about the mill plan.  Industry and investment have been driven out of Maine for decades by state government policies driven by the viro pressure groups.  If you want an economy get rid of the viro pressure groups obstructing it instead of letting them impose more restrictions and doing more damage.

    If a particular current plan for the mills fails, magic will not fall out of the sky in compensation by allowing a Federal wilderness takeover.  Don’t fall for the “man on the white horse” scam out of desperation, especially when the “man on the white horse” pretending to save us is responsible for bringing the economy to its knees and has now created a hostage situation.  Quimby and Restore want wilderness “ecosystem restoration” and have nothing to offer. Desperation doesn’t change that.  Wishing doesn’t make it so.

    There is no magical solution to the immediate problem, which for some is in fact quite desperate,  but we can start by getting rid of those responsible for it by keeping us in “darkness” rather than giving them what they want under false promises.

  • Anonymous

    Federally designated Wilderness does not have roads.  Cadillac Mountain is not Federally designated wilderness.

  • Anonymous

    Federally designated Wilderness does not have roads.  Cadillac Mountain is not Federally designated wilderness.

  • Anonymous

    Do you deny the history and goals of the park takeover campaign or do you only not want others to know it?

  • Anonymous

    Do you deny the history and goals of the park takeover campaign or do you only not want others to know it?

  • Anonymous

    Do you deny the history and goals of the park takeover campaign or do you only not want others to know it?

  • Anonymous

    Do you deny the history and goals of the park takeover campaign or do you only not want others to know it?

  • Anonymous

     This comment’s speculations and rambling incoherence are insane.  

    There have been a lot of knowledgeable people objecting to a Federal takeover for a very long time. None of this is new and it is not restricted to Millinocket Councilmen who have the courage to defy the radical pressure groups.

    Quimby is reprehensible for locking up her land the way she has, but she has a right to do that.  She does not have a “right” to unilaterally make public policy changing the form of government over a portion of Maine by “giving” land to the National Park Service to establish Federal control.  That is not what property rights mean.  Legally she needs the appearance of public support for Congressional approval of an NPS New Area study to begin planning with an official sanction.  The Obama Interior Dept. officials do not need to be convinced; they already want it but have no right to accept it without Congressional authorization.

  • Anonymous

    Reality 101: No one is going to start up any form of large scale manufacturing in Millinocket. There is no profit in it. There are millions of other locations throughout the USA a manufacture has to pick from and Millinocket is not one of them.

  • Anonymous

    Reality 101: No one is going to start up any form of large scale manufacturing in Millinocket. There is no profit in it. There are millions of other locations throughout the USA a manufacture has to pick from and Millinocket is not one of them.

  • Anonymous

    Reality 101: No one is going to start up any form of large scale manufacturing in Millinocket. There is no profit in it. There are millions of other locations throughout the USA a manufacture has to pick from and Millinocket is not one of them.

  • Anonymous

    Reality 101: No one is going to start up any form of large scale manufacturing in Millinocket. There is no profit in it. There are millions of other locations throughout the USA a manufacture has to pick from and Millinocket is not one of them.

  • Anonymous

    This does not address anything I wrote and is not even self-coherent.

  • Anonymous

    Your statement is not very accurate about Federal lands. BLM , which is Federally owned properties is used for gas and oil drilling, gold mining, range land etc. National Parks do havegreater  restrictions but in even in Yellow Stone National Park snow mobiling is allowed. Also mining, timber harvesting and other similiar activities are permitted near National Park borders. Fact my friend not crazy conspiracies. The Park would help Millinocket’s economy and the region’s even if you don’t like who is donating it.

  • Anonymous

    So are you for or against the park?

  • Anonymous

    So are you for or against the park?

  • Anonymous

    So are you for or against the park?

  • Anonymous

    So are you for or against the park?

  • Anonymous

    What if the timber companies decide to leave the region and sell off their lands to someone who posts it “No Tresspasser?” It could happen. Most likely it will sooner or later. No public land is not always a good thing and most of Maine is public land. Of the 10 million acres unaffected the proposed park is 1/100 of it in size. It does not pose a threat to the timber industry or any other possible employment opprotunities. The fact is it will provide some much need revenue to the area.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is giving 20 million for start up and operational cost. Who is the devil? The Federal Government? If you hate the USA so much maybe you should look into becoming a Canadian.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is giving 20 million for start up and operational cost. Who is the devil? The Federal Government? If you hate the USA so much maybe you should look into becoming a Canadian.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is giving 20 million for start up and operational cost. Who is the devil? The Federal Government? If you hate the USA so much maybe you should look into becoming a Canadian.

  • Anonymous

    Quimby is giving 20 million for start up and operational cost. Who is the devil? The Federal Government? If you hate the USA so much maybe you should look into becoming a Canadian.

  • Anonymous

    Flipping it would mean she plans to sell it at a profit to the Federal Government. My understanding is that Quimby plans on giving the land away plus $20 million. That is not a profit but a large loss.

  • Anonymous

    LOL I am against having another park. All tree huggers must go home

  • Anonymous

    LOL I am against having another park. All tree huggers must go home

  • Anonymous

    LOL I am against having another park. All tree huggers must go home

  • Anonymous

    Tell me don’t believe that line about the top secret in the works deal Millinocket with an un-named manufature? You can’t believe that CantAfford2Retire. Why should Millinocket be able to say yes or no to a park that would affect the greater Katahdin region and the entire state of Maine?

  • Anonymous

    Afraid of the BDN? That is a laugh. There hard hitting reporting is a joke. But I do appreciate them letting us have this message board.

  • Anonymous

    I see it has either Millinocket  gets a park to its north or Millinocket becomes a wilderness.

  • Anonymous

    I see it has either Millinocket  gets a park to its north or Millinocket becomes a wilderness.

  • Anonymous

    I see it has either Millinocket  gets a park to its north or Millinocket becomes a wilderness.

  • Anonymous

    I see it has either Millinocket  gets a park to its north or Millinocket becomes a wilderness.

  • Anonymous

    I’m far from desperate.    No one has yet come up with any viable solutions if the mill deal doesn’t go through.   If no one wants a park, what do they want?   I never said that a national park was a solution to anything but that it may be an added asset to possibly be more attractive to a tourist based economy.

  • Anonymous

    I think many of you are confused with what is being planned, which is what they want to do to us locals!  Quimby and her buddies are planning what is called a  National Wilderness Preservation System . These areas of the Country are under the National Park system but are NOT National Parks. They are WILDERNESS.

    Areas that are named a National Wilderness Perservation System forbid motorized vehicles logging, mining, roads, bicycles, and other forms of development. The only activities which will be allowed are backpacking, fishing without boats unless you carry your canoe into the area, hunting but without a vehicle to get your animal out of the woods, scientific research, and horseback riding.

    Check out Minnesota’s Northern Woods because basically that is exactly what she is trying to do here. Really research it and find out just how many jobs and business’s it has created for the local people. You will probably be surprised to find, not many. Unless you cater to people in the wilderness before 1900, there aren’t going to be too many jobs created.

    Also, take the time to go to Acadia and more importantly, Mt. Desert Island itself. It is one for sale sign after another and that is at the business’s because they are not making money! Those that do make money can’t get help for their minimum wage paying jobs because the cost to live there is so high now that the workers can’t afford to live there. They aren’t going to live in Ellsworth and drive even that distance to go make $7.00 an hour!

    Whether the mills are bought and re-opened is a mute point. It’s not an either or situation. Your area of the State of Maine needs to come up with new ideas to bring business into your idea, but this one isn’t going to do it and probably the mills aren’t either. So start looking for other ways to make a living!

  • Anonymous

    You’re late coming on to this stream.    It’s about time.  Where the heck have you been?

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Concerning the mills, it’s like the old song: “To dream the impossible dream.”   Most of the land Quimby wants to donate doesn’t have much commercial value left on it anyway.  Land owners don’t sell large tracts if it has any viabilty to make them a profit.  The landowners that sold or traded their land with Quimby had already gleaned from it anything of commercial value.  

  • Anonymous

    It’s good to know you are missed! Never even heard anything about this topic til I saw a copy of the BDN today in my doctor’s waiting room . I’m behind on the times. I just had to get my 2 cents in, like anyone cares really what “lepageman” has to say. Do you think the park  feasabilty study has any chance, you’re more on ground zero than I am? 

  • Anonymous

    Great post. Wish more people would read and would write posts such as this. What is wrong with an town’s/regional economy that is not based on one industry? If they can manage to get the mll a new owner then that would be great. But still they would just be relying on a capricious industry that could cease to be at any time. A foundery that is odd thing I would think for the middle of Maine’s North woods, but good if it is possible and not just a pipe dream. While the option is open for a park with someone offering land and money it is a winning situation all around in my book.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t tell me that the National Park Service has a “lot to offer”.  I have seen and been subjected to too much personally when they went after my property and many others in many different places.

    National Parks are not “well maintained”.  They are billions of dollars behind in maintenance and rehabilitation; this is politically permitted because NPS and the park lobby are more interested in expanding the empire with more land than taking care of what they have.  But it doesn’t matter how well maintained a park is if it comes at the expense of oppressive control over other people, including the use and threat of eminent domain.

    Don’t tell me I “don’t get out much” and don’t want “change and positive progress”.  You don’t know what you are talking about in your arrogant, ignorant smears employed as an ad hominem diversion.  Progressively increasing Federal control is not “progress”.  There is a lot of room for more “positive change” in all realms of life.

  • Anonymous

    I would like to think so.  But, alas, I believe we are beating a dead horse.

  • Anonymous

    There are Federally designated Wilderness areas in many large National Parks (plus National Forests, National Refuges and in the west Bureau of Land Management land), but not all.  There is constant pressure from the park and wilderness lobby to increase this, either through formally declared Wilderness or its equivalent (like National Forest “Roadless Areas”).  Quimby and Restore do in fact want this imposed on millions of acres in Maine, as you wrote.  If they didn’t get as much as they want in an initial park takeover, they and others would constantly pressure for it.  Quimby just brought two park lobbyists to Maine from Colorado posing as ordinary “local” people at the Rocky Mountains National Park — it turns out that both are Wilderness lobbyists and one is on the National Park Service Advisory Board.  They both were activists in recently imposing Wilderness in most of the Rocky Mountains National Park.

  • Anonymous

    There are Federally designated Wilderness areas in many large National Parks (plus National Forests, National Refuges and in the west Bureau of Land Management land), but not all.  There is constant pressure from the park and wilderness lobby to increase this, either through formally declared Wilderness or its equivalent (like National Forest “Roadless Areas”).  Quimby and Restore do in fact want this imposed on millions of acres in Maine, as you wrote.  If they didn’t get as much as they want in an initial park takeover, they and others would constantly pressure for it.  Quimby just brought two park lobbyists to Maine from Colorado posing as ordinary “local” people at the Rocky Mountains National Park — it turns out that both are Wilderness lobbyists and one is on the National Park Service Advisory Board.  They both were activists in recently imposing Wilderness in most of the Rocky Mountains National Park.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know.  Stubborness.  Not willing to see both sides of an argument.   Like I said before: some people just don’t like change.  Thanks, by the way.     Oh, there is another stream on the Opinion page.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know.  Stubborness.  Not willing to see both sides of an argument.   Like I said before: some people just don’t like change.  Thanks, by the way.     Oh, there is another stream on the Opinion page.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know.  Stubborness.  Not willing to see both sides of an argument.   Like I said before: some people just don’t like change.  Thanks, by the way.     Oh, there is another stream on the Opinion page.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know.  Stubborness.  Not willing to see both sides of an argument.   Like I said before: some people just don’t like change.  Thanks, by the way.     Oh, there is another stream on the Opinion page.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know.  Stubborness.  Not willing to see both sides of an argument.   Like I said before: some people just don’t like change.  Thanks, by the way.     Oh, there is another stream on the Opinion page.

  • Anonymous

    Many in Millinocket drive their atv’s, snow mobiles and golf carts right here on the roads. It does not seem very restricting at all and it most likely won’t change. Alot of other things go on that are overlooked also.

  • Anonymous

    When you say we need to start looking for ways to make a living you are correct. When will that happen? We are in dire straights here. Hardley any business, high prices, little recreation other than the outdoors type (we are not all able to be sports/outdoors types).  Many people who are elderly can not drive all the way to Lincoln or Bangor, many have no cars, many with cars can not afford the gas to leave the area. In addition to that we have to improve our local economy to be able to sell our real estate at prices that are reasonable should we choose to.
     
    What will happen when winter comes and the prices of oil are too much for residents to heat their homes. Granted this is an ongoing problem for some but It may be worse for the Katadin area this upcoming winter. Alot in this area have their home and their camp to maintain.
     
    We should be doing “studies” to get business into the area so that we can thrive. Why not a Reny’s?  It would be a wonderful start and draw to this area. 

  • Anonymous

    It makes me so sad to think that people who love living here may have to leave if they don’t have a job.

    Sad that people that homeowners/or their decendants that lovingly took care of their homes can not sell them for a decent price. Some that spew off daily are not even property owners and don’t really care if anything changes because maybe their situation will always be the same. Just want to have “rights” even if they probally will never go too far from tin can alley.

  • Anonymous

    Yes there are always “insiders” like that, expecting, after the land is locked up, to make a killing off a monopoly “gateway” at the expense of others.  That happens everywhere.  Some of them know how to work the system and others find themselves pushed out by the big shots who are better at it or because of increasing Federal restrictions. 

    One of the lobbyists from Colorado who Quimby brought in posing as an ordinary  local business person extolling the benefits of a “gateway” to a National Park Service, Judy Burke, fits this category.  Aside from the fact that Burke is a park and wilderness lobby insider appointed by the Obama administration to the National Park Service Advisory Board to promote NPS, Burke owns a real estate agency in a town of about 400 in less than a square mile next to the park.  Houses there sell on average for over $900,000 dollars but the typical incomes of the people are far below the Colorado average.  The arrogant parkies do like their little fedualist kingdoms.

    Sometimes people are simply stuck with the political system imposed on them.  The snowmobile businesses at Yellowstone and other parks where NPS is eliminating snowmobiles are having a very hard time and so are the towns.

    Those who try to work the system, collaborating with Federal control for what they think is their own benefit, are no better than the Kelo eminent domain mentality using government condemnation power to seize property for their own benefit.

  • Anonymous

    There was nothing inaccurate in what I wrote.  Stop twisting and spinning.  I wrote that “They impose Federal Wilderness or its equivalent everywhere they can on Federal land.  National Park System control maximizes their power to do that, but the trend is the same for all the Federal land management agencies.”  That is true.  Wilderness and other restrictions are progressively being used to prohibit mining, ranching, drilling and timber on Federal lands and the National Park Service, being even more restrictive in general than the others, makes it easier for them to get away that, both in the park to strangle inholders and recreational use and to interfere outside the park.  Nothing you wrote refutes that.  At Acadia, property owners caught in the boundary are threatened with condemnation for using their own land even by building a house on it.  Quimby is involved there, too, acting as a real estate front for NPS buying out inholders.
     

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately they do not want the truth. They just want to believe in  her one sided goals or else they would do some research.

  • Anonymous

     This does not address what I wrote.  The park lobby is a well-funded with politically sophisticated insiders who keep harassing over and over and don’t care that they aren’t wanted; they only want the land in Federal control — and not just Quimby’s.  They are power seekers who know they only have to win once in a weak moment and there is no going back as the Federal control ratchets in, progressively becoming worse and worse.  They are worse than stalkers.

    Property rights includes the right to exclude trespassers.  So what?  Are you against that too?  There is nothing wrong with selling land to someone who wants to live on it or operate another kind of business.  Private property rights are better for everyone.  Quimby is buying land to restore wilderness in order to obliterate both private property rights and access.

    The multiple use system on industrial lands worked very well until the viros started driving out the timber industry.  The viros have for decades deliberately destabilized the economy and land ownership in a long-term strategic campaign to get the land.  Now they want us to trust that their wilderness lockups are for “the economy”.  This is a farce.

    Quimby and Restore are a threat to everyone.  Bringing in Federal control affects everyone through its interference outside and the constant drive to expand once they gain a foothold.  Even Quimby and Restore have openly acknowledged that the 70,000 acres is only a “seed” and a “down payment” for millions of acres.

    Quimby cannot legally buy government policy by “giving” it money.  She can give money to the Treasury if she wants to; Congress, not Roxanne Quimby decides how it is spent. If she wants to give $20 million to Millinocket let her do it — without turning it into a bribe or extortion like she is trying to do with the snowmobilers to force their acquiescence to her Federal takeover.
    Her wilderness scheme will lock up the land for all but backpackers, not “bring in revenue”.

  • Anonymous

    Eliminating private property rights and imposing top-down Federal control is not the American system of government as it is supposed to be.

  • Anonymous

    She isn’t “giving” anything.  She is trying to buy public policy to hijack Federal power to enforce what she wants.  She said from the beginning that she is buying land to flip it to Federal control through the National Park Service.  That is what she wants.  She wants power from this, not money.

  • Anonymous

    The question is why should lobbyists like Quimby and Restore have a right to impose it?  Anyone has a right to object to a Federal takeover.

  • Anonymous

    The reasons why Federal control are a threat have been explained many times.  Hopey Changey that the National Park Service makes anything “more attractive” does not change that.  No one has to give you an economic plan for a specific mill deal with a Federal takeover the only allowed alternative.  Get the viros and the government out of the way and businesses will thrive on their own ideas.  Insisting on any central plan in advance does belong in a free society.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    We dissagree on this issue.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    We dissagree on this issue.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    We dissagree on this issue.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    We dissagree on this issue.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Yes, I am in favour of wilderness areas where motorized vehicles are not allowed.

  • Artie_LaGrange

    Yes, I am in favour of wilderness areas where motorized vehicles are not allowed.

  • Anonymous

    Because it’s at the doorstep to the park. Any community that is next to a potential federal project “has the right” to object.

  • Anonymous

    Because it’s at the doorstep to the park. Any community that is next to a potential federal project “has the right” to object.

  • Anonymous

    Because it’s at the doorstep to the park. Any community that is next to a potential federal project “has the right” to object.

  • Anonymous

    Because it’s at the doorstep to the park. Any community that is next to a potential federal project “has the right” to object.

  • Anonymous

    And “still” it’s more than a seasonal, part-time, no benefit, minimum wage BS gate guard job at Quimby Land.

  • Anonymous

    You should research what it cost to run a national park, 20 million is a drop in the bucket. Quimby is giving $$$ and of course you believe in Santa Clause.

  • Anonymous

    You should research what it cost to run a national park, 20 million is a drop in the bucket. Quimby is giving $$$ and of course you believe in Santa Clause.

  • Anonymous

    You should research what it cost to run a national park, 20 million is a drop in the bucket. Quimby is giving $$$ and of course you believe in Santa Clause.

  • Anonymous

    You should research what it cost to run a national park, 20 million is a drop in the bucket. Quimby is giving $$$ and of course you believe in Santa Clause.

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • Anonymous

    Baxter park offers all that now. What is going to draw “hundreds or thousands”?

  • yowsayowsa1

    Done it for most of my life.

     It’s not all it’s cut out to be, believe me.

    And that STILL leaves the huddled masses of minimum wagers to fend for themselves.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry Artie, I wasn’t trying to respond to you personally, it was late, I was tired, and after reading all of the comments I came to the conclusion that most folks didn’t understand the difference between a National Park and Wilderness. It just happened to be the end of comments and you were the last one so I hit Reply.
     
    I realize we will also disagree on this issue but I can’t imagine thinking that giving more control to a Government that can’t take care of what it already has is progress. What made this Country great was lack of government control or a dictator (think King George III). By eliminating such massive restrictions on humans we created the freedom to think for oneself and by doing that we created innovation which brought us out of the dark ages and into the industrial revolution. The more control Government has, the less freedom we have, the less innovative thinking exists, the less progress we have. I would prefer we progress by individual free thought then by a Government telling us how to think.
     
    If you look around the world it is because of our freedom that we no longer are “cave dwellers” or a third world Country. We are the only “free” society on this planet but we are quickly becoming like the rest of the world which will stop any true progress. The inventions made in the last 150 years were not made in the Middle East, Asia, or even most of Europe. They were made here because we had the freedom to think for ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry Artie, I wasn’t trying to respond to you personally, it was late, I was tired, and after reading all of the comments I came to the conclusion that most folks didn’t understand the difference between a National Park and Wilderness. It just happened to be the end of comments and you were the last one so I hit Reply.
     
    I realize we will also disagree on this issue but I can’t imagine thinking that giving more control to a Government that can’t take care of what it already has is progress. What made this Country great was lack of government control or a dictator (think King George III). By eliminating such massive restrictions on humans we created the freedom to think for oneself and by doing that we created innovation which brought us out of the dark ages and into the industrial revolution. The more control Government has, the less freedom we have, the less innovative thinking exists, the less progress we have. I would prefer we progress by individual free thought then by a Government telling us how to think.
     
    If you look around the world it is because of our freedom that we no longer are “cave dwellers” or a third world Country. We are the only “free” society on this planet but we are quickly becoming like the rest of the world which will stop any true progress. The inventions made in the last 150 years were not made in the Middle East, Asia, or even most of Europe. They were made here because we had the freedom to think for ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry Artie, I wasn’t trying to respond to you personally, it was late, I was tired, and after reading all of the comments I came to the conclusion that most folks didn’t understand the difference between a National Park and Wilderness. It just happened to be the end of comments and you were the last one so I hit Reply.
     
    I realize we will also disagree on this issue but I can’t imagine thinking that giving more control to a Government that can’t take care of what it already has is progress. What made this Country great was lack of government control or a dictator (think King George III). By eliminating such massive restrictions on humans we created the freedom to think for oneself and by doing that we created innovation which brought us out of the dark ages and into the industrial revolution. The more control Government has, the less freedom we have, the less innovative thinking exists, the less progress we have. I would prefer we progress by individual free thought then by a Government telling us how to think.
     
    If you look around the world it is because of our freedom that we no longer are “cave dwellers” or a third world Country. We are the only “free” society on this planet but we are quickly becoming like the rest of the world which will stop any true progress. The inventions made in the last 150 years were not made in the Middle East, Asia, or even most of Europe. They were made here because we had the freedom to think for ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry Artie, I wasn’t trying to respond to you personally, it was late, I was tired, and after reading all of the comments I came to the conclusion that most folks didn’t understand the difference between a National Park and Wilderness. It just happened to be the end of comments and you were the last one so I hit Reply.
     
    I realize we will also disagree on this issue but I can’t imagine thinking that giving more control to a Government that can’t take care of what it already has is progress. What made this Country great was lack of government control or a dictator (think King George III). By eliminating such massive restrictions on humans we created the freedom to think for oneself and by doing that we created innovation which brought us out of the dark ages and into the industrial revolution. The more control Government has, the less freedom we have, the less innovative thinking exists, the less progress we have. I would prefer we progress by individual free thought then by a Government telling us how to think.
     
    If you look around the world it is because of our freedom that we no longer are “cave dwellers” or a third world Country. We are the only “free” society on this planet but we are quickly becoming like the rest of the world which will stop any true progress. The inventions made in the last 150 years were not made in the Middle East, Asia, or even most of Europe. They were made here because we had the freedom to think for ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry Artie, I wasn’t trying to respond to you personally, it was late, I was tired, and after reading all of the comments I came to the conclusion that most folks didn’t understand the difference between a National Park and Wilderness. It just happened to be the end of comments and you were the last one so I hit Reply.
     
    I realize we will also disagree on this issue but I can’t imagine thinking that giving more control to a Government that can’t take care of what it already has is progress. What made this Country great was lack of government control or a dictator (think King George III). By eliminating such massive restrictions on humans we created the freedom to think for oneself and by doing that we created innovation which brought us out of the dark ages and into the industrial revolution. The more control Government has, the less freedom we have, the less innovative thinking exists, the less progress we have. I would prefer we progress by individual free thought then by a Government telling us how to think.
     
    If you look around the world it is because of our freedom that we no longer are “cave dwellers” or a third world Country. We are the only “free” society on this planet but we are quickly becoming like the rest of the world which will stop any true progress. The inventions made in the last 150 years were not made in the Middle East, Asia, or even most of Europe. They were made here because we had the freedom to think for ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    So sorry Artie, I wasn’t trying to respond to you personally, it was late, I was tired, and after reading all of the comments I came to the conclusion that most folks didn’t understand the difference between a National Park and Wilderness. It just happened to be the end of comments and you were the last one so I hit Reply.
     
    I realize we will also disagree on this issue but I can’t imagine thinking that giving more control to a Government that can’t take care of what it already has is progress. What made this Country great was lack of government control or a dictator (think King George III). By eliminating such massive restrictions on humans we created the freedom to think for oneself and by doing that we created innovation which brought us out of the dark ages and into the industrial revolution. The more control Government has, the less freedom we have, the less innovative thinking exists, the less progress we have. I would prefer we progress by individual free thought then by a Government telling us how to think.
     
    If you look around the world it is because of our freedom that we no longer are “cave dwellers” or a third world Country. We are the only “free” society on this planet but we are quickly becoming like the rest of the world which will stop any true progress. The inventions made in the last 150 years were not made in the Middle East, Asia, or even most of Europe. They were made here because we had the freedom to think for ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    Awww…really?
    I’ve heard much worse said on here about LePage and nobody “flagged” it. 

  • Artie_LaGrange

    No apologies necessary.  I am of the belief that our government should
    be regulated by citizen awareness and the ballot box.  I see the problem as citizens who do not pay
    attention to their elected representatives. 
    Dialogue is the best method of hashing out differences; after all, we
    are all Americans who want our hard fought for freedoms.

    Nice discussing current issues with you.

    My Regards.

  • Anonymous

      You must be a politician.   Between the rhetorical “spin” and condescention.   There was nothing “Hopey Changey” about my statement.  As a pragmatist, I want to keep an open mind.   I’m also not, as you so insultingly put it, a “viro”, nor do I work for the government.  I’m a middle-class working stiff who would like to stay in the area that I call home.   I’m sure many other people feel the same.
       I don’t have any feelings about any great conspiracy on Roxanne Quimby’s part.  As far as the government controlling the land.  They already do.  Stop paying your property taxes and you’ll see who controls it. 
       One way or another the Millinocket/Katahdin region is going to need a boost to its economy.   The people shouldn’t just sit back and wait for things to happen.   We all need to take an active approach to every available option for our survival.   Whether it be manufacturing, tourism or any combination thereof.   I don’t care about “what ifs?” or ”what abouts?”.   My trust of the government only goes so far.   I don’t care if no one trusts Roxanne Quimby.  I’ve never said that I  trust her.  I don’t care if she has ulterior motives.   I don’t care if you have ulterior motives. 
      What I do care about is the survival, sucess and livelihood of the Katahdin region.   Rhetoric, condescention, insults and conspiracy theories about the government controlling the land aren’t going to help get the area’s economy back.
    There is enough devisiveness in the area.   To paraphrase a quote from one of the great founders of our country:  “If we (the towns) don’t hang together, we’ll (the towns) surely hang seperately.”

      

  • Anonymous

      You must be a politician.   Between the rhetorical “spin” and condescention.   There was nothing “Hopey Changey” about my statement.  As a pragmatist, I want to keep an open mind.   I’m also not, as you so insultingly put it, a “viro”, nor do I work for the government.  I’m a middle-class working stiff who would like to stay in the area that I call home.   I’m sure many other people feel the same.
       I don’t have any feelings about any great conspiracy on Roxanne Quimby’s part.  As far as the government controlling the land.  They already do.  Stop paying your property taxes and you’ll see who controls it. 
       One way or another the Millinocket/Katahdin region is going to need a boost to its economy.   The people shouldn’t just sit back and wait for things to happen.   We all need to take an active approach to every available option for our survival.   Whether it be manufacturing, tourism or any combination thereof.   I don’t care about “what ifs?” or ”what abouts?”.   My trust of the government only goes so far.   I don’t care if no one trusts Roxanne Quimby.  I’ve never said that I  trust her.  I don’t care if she has ulterior motives.   I don’t care if you have ulterior motives. 
      What I do care about is the survival, sucess and livelihood of the Katahdin region.   Rhetoric, condescention, insults and conspiracy theories about the government controlling the land aren’t going to help get the area’s economy back.
    There is enough devisiveness in the area.   To paraphrase a quote from one of the great founders of our country:  “If we (the towns) don’t hang together, we’ll (the towns) surely hang seperately.”

      

  • Anonymous

      You must be a politician.   Between the rhetorical “spin” and condescention.   There was nothing “Hopey Changey” about my statement.  As a pragmatist, I want to keep an open mind.   I’m also not, as you so insultingly put it, a “viro”, nor do I work for the government.  I’m a middle-class working stiff who would like to stay in the area that I call home.   I’m sure many other people feel the same.
       I don’t have any feelings about any great conspiracy on Roxanne Quimby’s part.  As far as the government controlling the land.  They already do.  Stop paying your property taxes and you’ll see who controls it. 
       One way or another the Millinocket/Katahdin region is going to need a boost to its economy.   The people shouldn’t just sit back and wait for things to happen.   We all need to take an active approach to every available option for our survival.   Whether it be manufacturing, tourism or any combination thereof.   I don’t care about “what ifs?” or ”what abouts?”.   My trust of the government only goes so far.   I don’t care if no one trusts Roxanne Quimby.  I’ve never said that I  trust her.  I don’t care if she has ulterior motives.   I don’t care if you have ulterior motives. 
      What I do care about is the survival, sucess and livelihood of the Katahdin region.   Rhetoric, condescention, insults and conspiracy theories about the government controlling the land aren’t going to help get the area’s economy back.
    There is enough devisiveness in the area.   To paraphrase a quote from one of the great founders of our country:  “If we (the towns) don’t hang together, we’ll (the towns) surely hang seperately.”

      

  • Anonymous

    If Millinocket and the anti-park crowd have no problem with marking a property “No Tresspassing” then why did Millinocket have a fit when Quimby posted her property as such? Why is there a campaign called don’t fence Maine in?Your arguements do not hold water but are the ravings of an anti-government conspiracy theorist. From reading your posts your main worry is of Federal government takeover.  The federal government has neither time or the inclination to take over Millinocket nor the money to take out property with eminent domain. This offer is a once in a lifetime gift to the people of Millinocket, the Katahdin Region and Maine as a whole. Quimby has the right to do with her money and land as she sees fit even if it is to help people like yourself just as you have the right to say what you would like.

  • Anonymous

    I am not trying to be mean but do how much  the State and the Feds spend on programs to keep many in the Katahdin region from freezing and starving. Santa doesn’t pay for that either. A park may help get some people back on their own two feet without relying on TANF, MaineCAre or LIHEAP.

  • Anonymous

    I read the Millinocket Chairman arguement against the park. Jeez! Thanks for telling me about it. I think you should seriously consider writing your own opinion piece in support of the park. You seem to know the issues and the people very well and you write well. I know it seems like we are beating a dead horse but I think we offer a good counter weight to the anti-park, mill or nothing zealots. And they seem awfully keen on making their views heard, even if they are just a minority like I believe they are. 

  • Anonymous

    Acadia is not the North Woods. Just as you have stated you have the right to speak your piece, Quimby has the right to use her money (which the US Supreme  ruled is tantamount to speech) and voice her opinion. You don’t have to like someone but you can’t silence them. This is America.

  • Anonymous

    Acadia is not the North Woods. Just as you have stated you have the right to speak your piece, Quimby has the right to use her money (which the US Supreme  ruled is tantamount to speech) and voice her opinion. You don’t have to like someone but you can’t silence them. This is America.

  • Anonymous

    Acadia is not the North Woods. Just as you have stated you have the right to speak your piece, Quimby has the right to use her money (which the US Supreme  ruled is tantamount to speech) and voice her opinion. You don’t have to like someone but you can’t silence them. This is America.

  • Anonymous

    Acadia is not the North Woods. Just as you have stated you have the right to speak your piece, Quimby has the right to use her money (which the US Supreme  ruled is tantamount to speech) and voice her opinion. You don’t have to like someone but you can’t silence them. This is America.

  • Anonymous

    Acadia is not the North Woods. Just as you have stated you have the right to speak your piece, Quimby has the right to use her money (which the US Supreme  ruled is tantamount to speech) and voice her opinion. You don’t have to like someone but you can’t silence them. This is America.

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    It is hard to even argue with some of these naysayers. They would like to remain in a lost time but things change. Mill jobs are never going to be what they were a hundred, fifty or even thirty years ago. I believe these folks are just an over vocal minority who are trying to drowned out any voices of reason. I agree they seem to know nothing of national parks or the communities who are helped by the business they generate. Hassenpheffer, is a poster here you should read. He is from the Katahdin region and has some very valid points why a park is a good idea. These communities are not anti-park, anti-federal monoliths although a few would like us to believe that. I urge you to write Snowe and Collins and our Governor. 

  • Anonymous

    Anyone can lobby for a park, this is a free country. It would seem you forget that when you disagree with someone. The park would affect a larger number of people than just those in the economically self destructive few in Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    I understand what you are saying and I admire those that want to work. All I was trying to say is that there is a better way and a National Park will not provide you with what your all looking for. Acadia has very few working during Nov thru April. I also don’t believe people will drive that far into the State of Maine to visit a National Park. Some will but not that many, not enough to keep many people busy. Many believe there is a better way and the State need to keep looking for a buyer for those paper mills. But for many years we have known that this day was coming. Unions paid big bucks for people to work in the mill’s and now these jobs are gone.
    I’m sorry for every one of those that have lost their jobs. I know what it is like to be unemployed because I lost my job and I have a college education and I have worked all my life. I just recently went back to work because I took a position for less money with the same company. If OBAMA wasn’t a Socialist and had put the stimulus money in the our Country in the traditional manner then we would have been all back to work by now. Instead he put the stimulus $ where he wanted them to go and this is where we are today.
    God bless those who have no job and need income to live, pay bills etc. But I believe, as so many other do that a National Park isn’t the best solution for all those in your region. Reopening the mills is the key and then retraining workers for other type of jobs eventually.
    Take care and I am truly sorry for the difficulties people are having all across the Country. Keep in mind when a Socialist President fights Capitalism he will lose every time. The next President will dismantle everything he has done. Talk about a waste of money. We would have been better served if the stimulus $ had gone directly to those unemployed because what he did was spend our hard earned $ and we have nothing to show for it.

  • Anonymous

    I understand what you are saying and I admire those that want to work. All I was trying to say is that there is a better way and a National Park will not provide you with what your all looking for. Acadia has very few working during Nov thru April. I also don’t believe people will drive that far into the State of Maine to visit a National Park. Some will but not that many, not enough to keep many people busy. Many believe there is a better way and the State need to keep looking for a buyer for those paper mills. But for many years we have known that this day was coming. Unions paid big bucks for people to work in the mill’s and now these jobs are gone.
    I’m sorry for every one of those that have lost their jobs. I know what it is like to be unemployed because I lost my job and I have a college education and I have worked all my life. I just recently went back to work because I took a position for less money with the same company. If OBAMA wasn’t a Socialist and had put the stimulus money in the our Country in the traditional manner then we would have been all back to work by now. Instead he put the stimulus $ where he wanted them to go and this is where we are today.
    God bless those who have no job and need income to live, pay bills etc. But I believe, as so many other do that a National Park isn’t the best solution for all those in your region. Reopening the mills is the key and then retraining workers for other type of jobs eventually.
    Take care and I am truly sorry for the difficulties people are having all across the Country. Keep in mind when a Socialist President fights Capitalism he will lose every time. The next President will dismantle everything he has done. Talk about a waste of money. We would have been better served if the stimulus $ had gone directly to those unemployed because what he did was spend our hard earned $ and we have nothing to show for it.

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