Millinocket residents argue about Roxanne Quimby’s national park idea

Millinocket resident and businesswoman Wendy Polstein speaks to the Millinocket Town Council at a meeting on Thursday, June 23, 2011. She told councilors that a national park could help forestall an exodus of town residents caused by the closure of the Katahdin region's last paper mill.
Millinocket resident and businesswoman Wendy Polstein speaks to the Millinocket Town Council at a meeting on Thursday, June 23, 2011. She told councilors that a national park could help forestall an exodus of town residents caused by the closure of the Katahdin region's last paper mill.
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Roxanne Quimby talks about her plans for the land she owns in the Millinocket and surrounding region during a public meeting at the Northern Maine Timber Cruisers snowmobile club in Millinocket in May. More than 100 people attended the meeting where Quimby took questions from the audience.
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Roxanne Quimby talks about her plans for the land she owns in the Millinocket and surrounding region during a public meeting at the Northern Maine Timber Cruisers snowmobile club in Millinocket in May. More than 100 people attended the meeting where Quimby took questions from the audience.
Millinocket Town Manager Eugene Conlogue is shown at a Town Council meeting in 2010.
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MILLINOCKET, Maine ― Roxanne Quimby has another chance to sell town leaders on a national park.

Almost 2½ hours of discussion on a resolve condemning efforts to create a park ended Thursday with the Town Council voting to table the matter until Quimby presents her national park plan at a meeting next month.

With Chairman John Davis and Councilors Jimmy Busque and David Cyr dissenting, Councilors Richard Angotti Jr., Bryant Davis, Michael Madore and John Raymond voted to table the matter after debate made it clear that the resolve would pass.

An opponent of Quimby’s national park initiative, Madore proposed the tabling during a break in the meeting, after several residents and downtown businesspeople asked for it.

“Maybe giving them the opportunity to get more information is the right thing to do,” Madore said Thursday.

About 75 people attended the meeting, which was a display of the town’s opinion of Quimby’s effort and a rumination on Millinocket’s future. A town formed a century ago around a paper mill in the heart of Maine’s forest products industry lands, Millinocket’s greatest pride is arguably its papermaking history, though that mill closed in September 2008, idling 150 workers.

Some residents expressed hope that state efforts to revitalize the town and East Millinocket paper mills would succeed. Allowing a national park, they said, would signal that the Katahdin region was closed to such industry.

Busque called the national park effort “an economic disaster for northern Maine.”

“It would certainly destroy the forest products industry,” Busque said. “The only reason they want to have this national park is to start this cancer growing. We need to stop it. There are many reasons to stop this.”

The state government passed a resolve last week opposing Quimby’s initiative, which calls for her giving more than 70,000 wild acres next to Baxter State Park to the federal government, hoping to create a Maine Woods National Park. She envisions a visitor center dedicated to Henry David Thoreau, the naturalist who made three trips to Maine in the 1800s.

The park would be nearly twice the size of Maine’s Acadia National Park.

Sportsmen would get another 30,000 acres of woodlands north of Dover-Foxcroft to be managed like a state park, with hunting and snowmobiling allowed.

Proponents said a national park could provide the region revenue much like that provided by Baxter ― money especially welcome with the April closure of the region’s last paper mill in East Millinocket, which left about 450 workers unemployed.

“You are afraid of change. You are not giving this a chance,” said Paul Renaud, a resident who owns the AT Lodge and Appalachian Trail Cafe. “You say there are all these things you can’t do [with a national park]. What about the things you can do?”

“This [area] would probably make a beautiful national park,” he added. “My wife and I are not against it, and we are not for it, because we don’t have all the right information, and I don’t believe you [councilors] do either.”

Busque and Cyr predicted that a national park would destroy access to lands that have been open to recreation and industry for generations and said the 70,000 acres is not very worthy of national park protection.

John Davis ― no relation to Bryant Davis ― said park officials would overreach and tamper with residents’ control of the town. He predicted that a national park would cost the area at least 388 forest industry jobs.

The National Park Service, Madore said, has a $3 billion deficit in its maintenance budgets and federal officials see that deficit doubling in 10 years.

“We can’t afford to maintain the parks we have,” Madore said, “and who is paying for this? Every taxpayer in the U.S., including those of us in Maine.”

Angotti and many residents objected to the council rejecting a feasibility study of a national park. They said a study would provide them with needed facts, while Busque and Cyr said a study would merely be the first step toward the park becoming a reality.

“I have seen a lot of things against a national park and I want to see both sides of the coin before I toss it in the air. It is a one-sided decision right now,” Angotti said.

A feasibility study “goes through the federal government. It is their way of affirming that a national park will happen in Maine,” Cyr said. “They use a feasibility study to help facilitate a positive outcome.”

Resident Wendy Polstein, who owns several businesses with her husband, Matthew, said that a national park could end the exodus from the Katahdin region caused by the mill closures. Cyr said that the tourist industry jobs created by a national park would be too low-paying to be worth it.

Rudy Pelletier, owner of a downtown restaurant, said Quimby should be given a chance.

“We really need to listen to her. We have nothing to lose,” he said.

Quimby will present her vision of a national park at a meeting at Pelletier’s restaurant on July 18. The council will reconsider the resolve on July 28 ― time enough, John Davis said, to allow residents to consider Quimby’s plan.

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  • Anonymous

    Put the National Park in southern Maine thats where its needed and they are the people who want it !!

  • Tax All Liberals

    Yes, just make sure the visitors don’t feed the residents

  • Anonymous

    Wow.  Does the United Nations even know that Northern Maine exists???…….LOL.

    Good luck to Millinocket in the future.  The loss of the paper mills coupled with their rejection of eco-based tourism spells DOOM.  I see a mass exodus coming…………

  • Anonymous

    Wow.  Does the United Nations even know that Northern Maine exists???…….LOL.

    Good luck to Millinocket in the future.  The loss of the paper mills coupled with their rejection of eco-based tourism spells DOOM.  I see a mass exodus coming…………

  • Anonymous

    I guess beggars can be choosers.

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  • poormaniac

    The state has a nice game farm in Gray , we don’t need another one.  A park that is open to ALL uses might be more widely accepted.  Roxanne appears to want it her way ( preservation not conservation).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJQKFIBPEJ4G3YJTMPPQC25MFI David

    “Cyr has gone further, at one point saying that he believed in the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, which generally holds that the United Nations has created an in-depth plan of the New World Order to depopulate northern Maine in favor of preserving nature.”
    Let’s just be glad this gentleman isn’t a legislator.  He sounds kookier than the legislator with the handgun, running around pointing it at Dunkin’ Donut’s customers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJQKFIBPEJ4G3YJTMPPQC25MFI David

    “Cyr has gone further, at one point saying that he believed in the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, which generally holds that the United Nations has created an in-depth plan of the New World Order to depopulate northern Maine in favor of preserving nature.”
    Let’s just be glad this gentleman isn’t a legislator.  He sounds kookier than the legislator with the handgun, running around pointing it at Dunkin’ Donut’s customers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJQKFIBPEJ4G3YJTMPPQC25MFI David

    “Cyr has gone further, at one point saying that he believed in the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, which generally holds that the United Nations has created an in-depth plan of the New World Order to depopulate northern Maine in favor of preserving nature.”
    Let’s just be glad this gentleman isn’t a legislator.  He sounds kookier than the legislator with the handgun, running around pointing it at Dunkin’ Donut’s customers.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Unless you’re posting from about 1985, you’re a little late with that “coming” part.

    2010: 4,506
    2000: 5,203
    1990: 6,956
    1980: 7,567
    1970: 7,742

    (Source: U.S. Census Bureau)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Long/1499408399 Jack Long

    Quimby is a fat, slovenly flatlander that got rich from her husbands company and then sold it all.” Burt’s Bee’s” was Burt’s not Roxxanne’s company. She probably hasn’t spent a single night camping or hiking in the Maine wood’s. She probably can’t tell the difference between a Spruce tree and a Pine and yet she is shutting down vast tracks of Maines precious resources and ruining hundreds of lives. It’s time we the people took back all of her land, call it imminent domain, and then open it all up for all of Maines people and pastimes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Long/1499408399 Jack Long

    If you think the UN Agenda 21 is a ‘conspiracy therory’  then I suggest that you go to the UN’s website and read it for yourself. It’s not a theory it is a reality, read it for yourself.

  • kcjonez

    Many within town say the creation of Baxter State Park has shut off industrial and sportsmen’s access to the region, thereby curtailing much of the area’s economy, if not economic potential.  

    Interesting theory.  Every penny I have spent in Millinocket over the pas 50 years, which includes groceries, motels, restaurants, hardware, gas, hospital(I’d rather forget that part)…  has all been directly related to Baxter State Park.  

    No BSP, these flatlander dollars go elsewhere.

  • kcjonez

    Many within town say the creation of Baxter State Park has shut off industrial and sportsmen’s access to the region, thereby curtailing much of the area’s economy, if not economic potential.  

    Interesting theory.  Every penny I have spent in Millinocket over the pas 50 years, which includes groceries, motels, restaurants, hardware, gas, hospital(I’d rather forget that part)…  has all been directly related to Baxter State Park.  

    No BSP, these flatlander dollars go elsewhere.

  • kcjonez

    Many within town say the creation of Baxter State Park has shut off industrial and sportsmen’s access to the region, thereby curtailing much of the area’s economy, if not economic potential.  

    Interesting theory.  Every penny I have spent in Millinocket over the pas 50 years, which includes groceries, motels, restaurants, hardware, gas, hospital(I’d rather forget that part)…  has all been directly related to Baxter State Park.  

    No BSP, these flatlander dollars go elsewhere.

  • kcjonez

    Many within town say the creation of Baxter State Park has shut off industrial and sportsmen’s access to the region, thereby curtailing much of the area’s economy, if not economic potential.  

    Interesting theory.  Every penny I have spent in Millinocket over the pas 50 years, which includes groceries, motels, restaurants, hardware, gas, hospital(I’d rather forget that part)…  has all been directly related to Baxter State Park.  

    No BSP, these flatlander dollars go elsewhere.

  • kcjonez

    Many within town say the creation of Baxter State Park has shut off industrial and sportsmen’s access to the region, thereby curtailing much of the area’s economy, if not economic potential.  

    Interesting theory.  Every penny I have spent in Millinocket over the pas 50 years, which includes groceries, motels, restaurants, hardware, gas, hospital(I’d rather forget that part)…  has all been directly related to Baxter State Park.  

    No BSP, these flatlander dollars go elsewhere.

  • kcjonez

    Many within town say the creation of Baxter State Park has shut off industrial and sportsmen’s access to the region, thereby curtailing much of the area’s economy, if not economic potential.  

    Interesting theory.  Every penny I have spent in Millinocket over the pas 50 years, which includes groceries, motels, restaurants, hardware, gas, hospital(I’d rather forget that part)…  has all been directly related to Baxter State Park.  

    No BSP, these flatlander dollars go elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    If you were so concerned then maybe you should have bought the land or petitioned the state to buy the land. Since that didn’t happened she owns the land and unless you want to open up your private property to public use I’d suggest that you find another argument.

  • Anonymous

    The dinosaurs that run Millenockett and E Mill need to get their heads out of the sand and realize this may be the best opportunity to build a jobs future for future generations.  With the traditional  woods/paper  industries falling like dominos what other industry beyond tourism do they have to choose from to keep that area from becoming a series of ghosttowns?   Of course  if we can’t do something about the “Quality of Place”  being ruined by the damned wind turbines sites it won’t make a difference as no one will want to come see a National Park with 430-500′ tall turbines populating every direction you look in.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    They’re all sitting around on their butts waiting for the mill to reopen and hire them all back….

  • Anonymous

    What the people in Medway need to do is listen to reason certainly not you. I sat back and read everything you have had to say on here and it seems to me that you have a problem with the town of Millinocket. I also know for a fact after talking to many from your town that not everyone shares your view. As a matter of fact I was told by one of your town leaders that not many there agree with your opion. With that said everyone is allowed an opinion and you certainly have yours. But do be as petty as you come across isnt something I find entertainling to read. If you have a problem with Millinocket then dont come here. trust me when I tell you that you will not be missed. Grow up and enough of the juvenile comments.

  • Anonymous

    What the people in Medway need to do is listen to reason certainly not you. I sat back and read everything you have had to say on here and it seems to me that you have a problem with the town of Millinocket. I also know for a fact after talking to many from your town that not everyone shares your view. As a matter of fact I was told by one of your town leaders that not many there agree with your opion. With that said everyone is allowed an opinion and you certainly have yours. But do be as petty as you come across isnt something I find entertainling to read. If you have a problem with Millinocket then dont come here. trust me when I tell you that you will not be missed. Grow up and enough of the juvenile comments.

  • Anonymous

    What the people in Medway need to do is listen to reason certainly not you. I sat back and read everything you have had to say on here and it seems to me that you have a problem with the town of Millinocket. I also know for a fact after talking to many from your town that not everyone shares your view. As a matter of fact I was told by one of your town leaders that not many there agree with your opion. With that said everyone is allowed an opinion and you certainly have yours. But do be as petty as you come across isnt something I find entertainling to read. If you have a problem with Millinocket then dont come here. trust me when I tell you that you will not be missed. Grow up and enough of the juvenile comments.

  • Anonymous

    What the people in Medway need to do is listen to reason certainly not you. I sat back and read everything you have had to say on here and it seems to me that you have a problem with the town of Millinocket. I also know for a fact after talking to many from your town that not everyone shares your view. As a matter of fact I was told by one of your town leaders that not many there agree with your opion. With that said everyone is allowed an opinion and you certainly have yours. But do be as petty as you come across isnt something I find entertainling to read. If you have a problem with Millinocket then dont come here. trust me when I tell you that you will not be missed. Grow up and enough of the juvenile comments.

  • Anonymous

    It is her land, right? What is there to discuss?

  • Anonymous

    The National Park system is allready a dreain on the nations tax payers. Close to 80 percent of them are in trouble because of low visitor turnout. What makes any of you think for one minute that the one propsed for this area will be any different? If anyone watched her on Kat tv lately and heard what she had to say they may have a different opinion. She said that this was a dream of hers and that she wanted her familys name to be a legacy here. For that I say hold on one minute. What about the the familys here that built that mill from scratch and worked many long hard hours in those mills to put food on there familys plates? What makes someone from away feel they have the right to come up here and put there name on something the taxpayers are going to end up paying for? As far as I’m concerned it’s not her land anyway. Has she forgotten about the tree growth tax the tax payers of Maine foot the bill for on her  land? If your so big headed that you feel the name to have your familys name in lights then build one in Massachusetts. There are plenty of family around here alot more deserving to have there familys names on anything here. Get off your high horse and go back to where you came from. I’m betting old Bert would agree.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FAFPBUNT45MDVT46IWVGOEDQLQ Thomas

    Mr. Conlogue  we do not care!  Listen closely: you either accept your fate as a far off tourist attraction for camping, fishing and hunting or you disappear.  MILLINOCKET is dead as far as manufacturing is concerned.  Forest products are now a commodity with little or limited value as anything other than lumber or fuel.  Even toilet paper is can be made without chopping down a single tree through use of recycling.  Mr. Cologue…stay around and be the last to turn out the lights in MILLINOCKET …. you will not need to wait much longer.

  • Anonymous

    I suggest anyone who doesnt want the park here to write your represenatives, the park service, and the WhiteHouse and tell them you oppose it. Trust me democracy does work and perhaps with enough letters we can make sure this never happens.

  • Anonymous

    I suggest anyone who doesnt want the park here to write your represenatives, the park service, and the WhiteHouse and tell them you oppose it. Trust me democracy does work and perhaps with enough letters we can make sure this never happens.

  • Anonymous

    Not kookier then having a house speaker that ripped off medicade to tue tune of 1.8 million and never being brought to justice. Are you listening Mr. Nutting? This isnt over yet my friend.

  • Anonymous

    Not kookier then having a house speaker that ripped off medicade to tue tune of 1.8 million and never being brought to justice. Are you listening Mr. Nutting? This isnt over yet my friend.

  • Anonymous

    Not kookier then having a house speaker that ripped off medicade to tue tune of 1.8 million and never being brought to justice. Are you listening Mr. Nutting? This isnt over yet my friend.

  • Anonymous

    Not kookier then having a house speaker that ripped off medicade to tue tune of 1.8 million and never being brought to justice. Are you listening Mr. Nutting? This isnt over yet my friend.

  • Anonymous

    He just keeps pointing that ol gun at his foot…everytime he opens his mouth he shoots himself in the foot.

  • Anonymous

    He just keeps pointing that ol gun at his foot…everytime he opens his mouth he shoots himself in the foot.

  • Anonymous

    He just keeps pointing that ol gun at his foot…everytime he opens his mouth he shoots himself in the foot.

  • Anonymous

    He just keeps pointing that ol gun at his foot…everytime he opens his mouth he shoots himself in the foot.

  • Anonymous

    He just keeps pointing that ol gun at his foot…everytime he opens his mouth he shoots himself in the foot.

  • Anonymous

    He just keeps pointing that ol gun at his foot…everytime he opens his mouth he shoots himself in the foot.

  • Anonymous

    that was suppose to read allready a drain on the taxpayers. And she may have bought the land after her sweet deal with ole bert but we pay the taxes on it. I think youd better do a little research yourself.

  • Anonymous

    that was suppose to read allready a drain on the taxpayers. And she may have bought the land after her sweet deal with ole bert but we pay the taxes on it. I think youd better do a little research yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne Quimby will never really allow for hunting.

  • Anonymous

    The only debate that could possibly exist is:  do we want to still have a town here, or not?  Without the mill and without a park, Millinocket will be without a purpose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/flashmu52 Jeffrey Flash Barnard Jr

    two points .. a) Quimby does own the land so why shouldn’t she be allowed to do with it as she pleases? and b) the people surrounding the Mt. Katahdin area need to realize the amazing potential of extreme adventurers and embrace the opportunity to be front runners in this new type of tourism

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    It’s time we shut down the decision based lunacy based on the road to nowhere you so flamingly spew.
     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    It’s time we shut down the decision based lunacy based on the road to nowhere you so flamingly spew.
     

  • Anonymous

    David,
    Read it in it’s entirety http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21  it is the kookiest thing I ever heard ! I read it when it first came out in 1992. Start packing your bags ???

  • Anonymous

    More entitlement attitude……….

  • Anonymous

    Take the tinfoil off your head!

  • Anonymous

    Thanks again Ben for keeping us updated on more negative statistics on Millinocket, the town you live in!!!!!!!!! 

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne, when you get tired of trying to talk to these people (that everyone in the area knows you can’t talk to), maybe you may want to contact some of the leaders in the town of Medway, from what I hear they look at this a little different.
     
    So if you want to stop wasting your time, maybe you should look elsewhere for support. It is out there

  • Anonymous

    Nice try 

  • Anonymous

    And I suggest that everyone else do the opposite.

  • Anonymous

    Yes she will…….on 30,000 acres North of Dover-Foxcroft.  Do you read?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about Mr. Cyr but I think the UN is pretty kooky myself. What he says about the UN plan for a new world order is probably not far from the truth. This is same the organization that is intent on spreading the world’s wealth and making everyone equal by robbing us of our cherished freedoms under the Constitution, among other things. For starts, it proposes to impose a tax on every US citizen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wookie-Pie/1801487975 Wookie Pie

    nope.  bert is with her on this stuff.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wookie-Pie/1801487975 Wookie Pie

    hunt on your own land.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJQKFIBPEJ4G3YJTMPPQC25MFI David

    You’re sourcing a wikipedia article?   Sorry, you lose points for your source, but I’m willing to listen.  What exactly are your objections to sensible and sustainable development?

  • Anonymous

    Let her do what she wants with her land; including giving it to the state of Maine or the federal government for park lands.  However, states and the federal govenment are running short on funds to preserve and maintain the parks — so I say if Ms. Quimby gives over the lands the state and federal government should not take it unless there are sufficient funds to properly maintain the land for at least a quarter of a century.

  • Anonymous

    I can assure you that the Katahdin area would not reap any economic benefits — there are not enough people who want to trek around the wilderness who are going to be dropping money around.  Just face it, Maine is going to continue to be an economically depressed state until the time Maine decides they want industry and business to move in.

  • Anonymous

    I remember hikes in the woods north of Millinocket years ago when you could practically walk all the way to Canada without crossing a paved road.  Every mill worker in East Millinocket and Millinocket could be a Maine Guide and others could run the motels and restaurants to serve the All Seasons (maybe not mud/black-fly) Attractions.  Maybe Ms Quimby could help build the motels and I know LL Bean would start something if the Townsfolk didn’t.  Time for those same Townsfolk to shake off the shock and react like the innovative and capable people they are. These towns may have been given life by pulp & paper but they don’t have to lose it that way!

  • Anonymous

    “do we want to still have a town here, or not?” WE don’t care what you have to say about Millinocket 

  • Anonymous

    “do we want to still have a town here, or not?” WE don’t care what you have to say about Millinocket 

  • Anonymous

    “do we want to still have a town here, or not?” WE don’t care what you have to say about Millinocket 

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/qD27wDV0m.h3NTahGt9XXmbiL5pzyvZC8k2TLVU2qmScdalecwc4cQ--#b0bd2 The_Greek_SailorBC

    Seems to me if someone wanted to come into this area (instead of Quimby) and put in a large wind farm, there would be protests.  If someone wanted to install a private condominium and home site conglomeration, there would be protests.  If someone wanted to use the lakes as a source of raising large bass or something, there would be protests.  If the Government decided it wanted to build a big radar and security  station there, there would be protests.  And now nobody is happy even when Quimby is offering land area for snowmobiling and hunting; people are protesting.  The advent of a secured state park is bringing on protests.

    “I can’t get no…satisfaction”, is the song being sung, I guess. 

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/qD27wDV0m.h3NTahGt9XXmbiL5pzyvZC8k2TLVU2qmScdalecwc4cQ--#b0bd2 The_Greek_SailorBC

    Seems to me if someone wanted to come into this area (instead of Quimby) and put in a large wind farm, there would be protests.  If someone wanted to install a private condominium and home site conglomeration, there would be protests.  If someone wanted to use the lakes as a source of raising large bass or something, there would be protests.  If the Government decided it wanted to build a big radar and security  station there, there would be protests.  And now nobody is happy even when Quimby is offering land area for snowmobiling and hunting; people are protesting.  The advent of a secured state park is bringing on protests.

    “I can’t get no…satisfaction”, is the song being sung, I guess. 

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/qD27wDV0m.h3NTahGt9XXmbiL5pzyvZC8k2TLVU2qmScdalecwc4cQ--#b0bd2 The_Greek_SailorBC

    Seems to me if someone wanted to come into this area (instead of Quimby) and put in a large wind farm, there would be protests.  If someone wanted to install a private condominium and home site conglomeration, there would be protests.  If someone wanted to use the lakes as a source of raising large bass or something, there would be protests.  If the Government decided it wanted to build a big radar and security  station there, there would be protests.  And now nobody is happy even when Quimby is offering land area for snowmobiling and hunting; people are protesting.  The advent of a secured state park is bringing on protests.

    “I can’t get no…satisfaction”, is the song being sung, I guess. 

  • Anonymous

    I really like Millinocket. I found it to be a great place when I go the nortwoods to enjoy nature. Pole will move there if the National Park come….and maybe the folks that can’t accept it will move to New Jersey.

  • Anonymous

    I really like Millinocket. I found it to be a great place when I go the nortwoods to enjoy nature. Pole will move there if the National Park come….and maybe the folks that can’t accept it will move to New Jersey.

  • Anonymous

    I really like Millinocket. I found it to be a great place when I go the nortwoods to enjoy nature. Pole will move there if the National Park come….and maybe the folks that can’t accept it will move to New Jersey.

  • Anonymous

    Why a national park, why not add to Baxtor State Park. I think there is a hidden agenda here.

  • Anonymous

    Why a national park, why not add to Baxtor State Park. I think there is a hidden agenda here.

  • Anonymous

    Why a national park, why not add to Baxtor State Park. I think there is a hidden agenda here.

  • Anonymous

    Why a national park, why not add to Baxtor State Park. I think there is a hidden agenda here.

  • Anonymous

    Medwayone, maybe you should stop drinking the Kool-Aid and stick to the twigs and bark

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Kcjonez for your business. We all love Baxter Park and what it has to offer, we just don’t need another one.

  • Anonymous

    It’s her land until she gives it to the federal government for tax payers to have to support…

  • Anonymous

    It’s her land until she gives it to the federal government for tax payers to have to support…

  • Anonymous

    Easily accessible??? anyway you go you will have to jump the locked gate!!

  • Anonymous

    Easily accessible??? anyway you go you will have to jump the locked gate!!

  • Anonymous

    “Hidden”???  Is that why this has been in the BDN almost weekly???…….or why there seems to be a monthly meeting about this lately???

  • Anonymous

    Indeed….Acadia is the draw to Maine for rich tourists looking to drop coin.  What the heak is so special about freakin’ Katahdin?  It’s certainly not “National Park” potential, IMHO.

  • Anonymous

    exactly what I and others intend on doing. What harm can a study do? Making a decision without the facts…..yup status quo around here.

  • Anonymous

    Well, no matter what YOU say, the fact remains that you folks are a completely dependent people and deserve what those who depend on others acquire in the long run, nothing.

  • Anonymous

    LMAO……good luck with that!

  • Anonymous

    LMAO……good luck with that!

  • Anonymous

    Amen!!!  Damned if you do, damned if you don’t……..that’s Millinocket in an nutshell.

  • Anonymous

    Amen!!!  Damned if you do, damned if you don’t……..that’s Millinocket in an nutshell.

  • Anonymous

    It has nothing to do with Maine!  Do you know what today’s modern economy entails?  There will be NO MORE manufacturing jobs in Maine!!!  Heck, even the most business friendly of states can’t attract and keep those jobs now!

  • Anonymous

    It has nothing to do with Maine!  Do you know what today’s modern economy entails?  There will be NO MORE manufacturing jobs in Maine!!!  Heck, even the most business friendly of states can’t attract and keep those jobs now!

  • Anonymous

    It has nothing to do with Maine!  Do you know what today’s modern economy entails?  There will be NO MORE manufacturing jobs in Maine!!!  Heck, even the most business friendly of states can’t attract and keep those jobs now!

  • Anonymous

    And YOU obviously don’t care about Millinocket!

  • Anonymous

    And YOU obviously don’t care about Millinocket!

  • Anonymous

    And YOU obviously don’t care about Millinocket!

  • Anonymous

    And YOU obviously don’t care about Millinocket!

  • Anonymous

    And YOU obviously don’t care about Millinocket!

  • Anonymous

    And YOU obviously don’t care about Millinocket!

  • Anonymous

    Better than giving it to you.

  • Anonymous

    Better than giving it to you.

  • Anonymous

    Great comeback………

  • Anonymous

    What do you need then?

  • Anonymous

    What do you need then?

  • Anonymous

    Wikepedia has input from everyone, unlike your favorite source…….Faux News.

  • Anonymous

    Its not YOUR land!

  • Anonymous

    If you don’t like / trust wikipedia just search “Agenda 21 ” and READ it !!  It’s not just about northern Maine !!
    I like wide open spaces and that’s why I like living up in the crown… What the UN wants to do is relocate ALL folks from the north to high risers in another areas so as to lessen the impact people have on the world environment..  Can you say stock yard… And yes I do let the public access our 50 acres within reason… Also ask some of the park rangers what they think of Qumby’s plan for some insite, I was down there just two weeks ago…

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes the truth hurts.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmmm OK thanks Jeff..

  • Anonymous

    Hmmmm OK thanks Jeff..

  • Anonymous

    This area is mostly forest land, so why isn’t this being proposed as a National Forest rather then a National Park.

    Also a National Forest is open to Sportsmans as well as logging, where as a National Park is just for recreation and education.

    Just an idea to consider ………………………………

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you need to move to Detroit, New Jersey or 90% of the rest of the country?…….then you may realize what is “special”.

  • Anonymous

    Read Jeff, I said “another one”

  • Anonymous

    @ David…      (“Cyr has gone further, at one point saying that he believed in the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, which generally holds that the United Nations has created an in-depth plan of the New World Order to depopulate northern Maine in favor of preserving nature.”Let’s just be glad this gentleman isn’t a legislator.  He sounds kookier than legislator Frederick Ladd Wintle with the handgun, running around pointing it at Dunkin’ Donut’s customers.)
     
    To be sure, it would be so much easier to believe that Ms Quimby and her ilk are “only trying to preserve nature’s beauty”, but the truth of it is that this “preservation” is going to come at the expense of PEOPLE.  There is an Agenda 21…whether you or anyone else chooses to admit this to yourselves or not is your business.  But with the current economic situation, any project that threatens the way of life in the targeted areas is unconscionable.  People have lived in these areas from time immemorial…and Roxanne and her Preservationist buddies just don’t care.  They don’t want people in these areas.  They may claim that this “park” will be a great place for restrained recreation, but who will be able to afford access?  Who will be allowed to live and work outside their planned “buffer zones”?   Open your eyes and smell the coffee…their plans are moving along at full speed…think about it, why are all the jobs being “outsourced”, why are all the mills being shut down?  It’s simple…they want their park, and they’ll stop at nothing to get it. 
    http://www.mtmultipleuse.org/wilderness/wildlands_map.htm        http://www.outdoorwire.com/access/education/nm_twp/nm_twp_pt3.htm               http://www.outdoorwire.com/access/education/nm_twp/nm_twp_pt2.htm                  http://www.outdoorwire.com/access/index.htm                                                               http://www.restoringamerica.org/wildlands_project_map.htm                                http://www.twp.org/wildways                                                                                                 http://www.stewardsofthesequoia.org/PDF/Wildlands%20Map%20USA%20web%20page.pdf
     
    If these facts aren’t enough for you, just think about this…The State of Maine can’t afford to adequately staff the existing State Park areas…we can’t even afford to maintain port-a-pottys for crying out loud…the same problem exists for the Federal Park System…So Dave, are you going to dig into your pockets???

    @ Thomas, (Mr. Conlogue  we do not care!  Listen closely: you either accept your fate as a far off tourist attraction for camping, fishing and hunting or you disappear.  MILLINOCKET is dead as far as manufacturing is concerned.  Forest products are now a commodity with little or limited value as anything other than lumber or fuel.  Even toilet paper is can be made without chopping down a single tree through use of recycling.  Mr. Cologue…stay around and be the last to turn out the lights in MILLINOCKET …. you will not need to wait much longer. )       It’s nice to know that our opinions are so very far apart.  How can you be so callous about the death of 2 mills, the unemployment of so very many hard working people?  There have been generations of workers in these mills, and not just from Millinocket, East Millinocket and Medway.  The only reason that forest products are a “limited value” is because they are routinely being outsourced along with the jobs…Oh, and Millinocket has not turned their backs on the power of the eco-tourist dollar, but such a total reliance on the eco-dollar is pure folly.  Barely a quarter of the local population would benefit from such an economy.

  • Anonymous

     If Medway is closer aand  isn’t pitching a fit about Ms. Quimby’s gift, I say we make Medway the gate way to the new National Park.  I’m not invested in saving some backwoods town that won’t event save itself.

  • Anonymous

     If Medway is closer aand  isn’t pitching a fit about Ms. Quimby’s gift, I say we make Medway the gate way to the new National Park.  I’m not invested in saving some backwoods town that won’t event save itself.

  • Anonymous

     If Medway is closer aand  isn’t pitching a fit about Ms. Quimby’s gift, I say we make Medway the gate way to the new National Park.  I’m not invested in saving some backwoods town that won’t event save itself.

  • Anonymous

     If Medway is closer aand  isn’t pitching a fit about Ms. Quimby’s gift, I say we make Medway the gate way to the new National Park.  I’m not invested in saving some backwoods town that won’t event save itself.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for your comment.  It’s a perfect example of what is holding Millinocket and all of Northern Maine from becoming self-sustaining and locked in poverty and dependence on the rest of us.  As long as there are folks who share your thinking, you’ll be totally dependent on the rest of the State to pay for your Mainecare, food stamps, mail service, police and game wardens, schools and road paving.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for your comment.  It’s a perfect example of what is holding Millinocket and all of Northern Maine from becoming self-sustaining and locked in poverty and dependence on the rest of us.  As long as there are folks who share your thinking, you’ll be totally dependent on the rest of the State to pay for your Mainecare, food stamps, mail service, police and game wardens, schools and road paving.

  • Anonymous

    That is just idiotic, what we loose that 30,000 acres is nothing.The fact is a National Park takes away any control. Why does it have to be a National Park, just give it to the state to manage.  This land is just a carrot stick to hang in front of people to make it  look like she has changed her ways.

  • Anonymous

    That is just idiotic, what we loose that 30,000 acres is nothing.The fact is a National Park takes away any control. Why does it have to be a National Park, just give it to the state to manage.  This land is just a carrot stick to hang in front of people to make it  look like she has changed her ways.

  • Anonymous

    That is just idiotic, what we loose that 30,000 acres is nothing.The fact is a National Park takes away any control. Why does it have to be a National Park, just give it to the state to manage.  This land is just a carrot stick to hang in front of people to make it  look like she has changed her ways.

  • Anonymous

    I would suggest she buy all the land around Walden Pond, towns and all and  raze the whole area plant trees, and make a National Park their. Sure she can do what she wants with her land. Just like the gates she has now, it will be no difference with aNational Park,except you will havee to pay.

  • Anonymous

    I would suggest she buy all the land around Walden Pond, towns and all and  raze the whole area plant trees, and make a National Park their. Sure she can do what she wants with her land. Just like the gates she has now, it will be no difference with aNational Park,except you will havee to pay.

  • Anonymous

    I would suggest she buy all the land around Walden Pond, towns and all and  raze the whole area plant trees, and make a National Park their. Sure she can do what she wants with her land. Just like the gates she has now, it will be no difference with aNational Park,except you will havee to pay.

  • Anonymous

    Stay tuned Jeff, manufacturing is not dead in the Katahdin area.

  • Anonymous

    Except that this time the Mill is not coming back.  No more of our tax money should go to bailouts of these unwanted mills.  If Millinocket can’t adapt, it should be allowed fade away.

  • Anonymous

    Stay tuned………………..

  • Anonymous

    think12: It’s moonshine down here in the Gateway Town. And does the end of the road mean anything?

  • Anonymous

    But it kinda WILL be different………

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the wisdom

  • Anonymous

    So tell us what you think in a nutshell…….

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    A “national forest” does nothing…….you already have a “national forest” without the “national”.

  • Anonymous

    OPEN FOR BUSINESS!…….LOL.

  • Anonymous

    OPEN FOR BUSINESS!…….LOL.

  • Anonymous

    YOU “lose” NOTHING!  YOU don’t own the land!!!

  • Anonymous

    Just what I thought…….things always sound better when you say them in your head. ;)

  • Anonymous

    I’m going to tell you what to do with your property…….are you OK with that?

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a plan!  Medway sounds better than Millinocket anyway…….will work much better in tourism marketing.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a plan!  Medway sounds better than Millinocket anyway…….will work much better in tourism marketing.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a plan!  Medway sounds better than Millinocket anyway…….will work much better in tourism marketing.

  • Anonymous

    Ahh yes……..I hear a tinfoil hat factory is coming soon.  OPEN FOR BUSINESS!

  • Anonymous

    Ahh yes……..I hear a tinfoil hat factory is coming soon.  OPEN FOR BUSINESS!

  • Anonymous

    Ahh yes……..I hear a tinfoil hat factory is coming soon.  OPEN FOR BUSINESS!

  • Anonymous

    The town business people stood up and were counted tonight. The resolve was tabled by a 4 to 3 vote.The times they are a changing.

  • Anonymous

    It would be a quarter more than they have now with the Millinocket mill sitting cold for how long now?

  • Anonymous

    what would you lose with a National Park? You have NO control of the land now!

    She can close that land down and post private guards if she so chose to.

    Private property is just that….PRIVATE! She could fence it in if she wanted or post guards ever 20 feet to keep people out. You have no access to her land if you are a law abiding citizen!

  • Anonymous

    Does it all really matter anyway? What will be will be.

  • Anonymous

    Does it all really matter anyway? What will be will be.

  • Anonymous

    Talk to me, do you have some good ideas? You can be sure I will do nothing with my land that would affect anyone. 

  • Anonymous

    The reason why she wants a national park and not a bigger state park is what I think is hidden. Have you stopped and thought about that for a minute. Wouldn’t a state park protect the area just as good as a national park so why must it be a national park. The reason I think she wants a national park is so wolves can be released in Maine. For the feds to release wolves on state land they need the ok from the state, to release wolves on federal land the feds need the ok by the feds. That is the hidden agenda I was talking about.

  • Anonymous

    Austin Powers/Roxanne Quimby…separated at birth?

  • Anonymous

    You lose, STAY TUNED!

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Oh my God, you’re right. Nobody would ever have discovered this ultra-secret public-domain census information, nor had the slightest inkling that Millinocket’s population has been in sharp decline for two decades now, if I hadn’t gone and posted it in the reader comments section of a regional-interest article on a medium-market newspaper’s website.  WHAT WAS I THINKING.

  • Anonymous

    It may sound far out, but Obama just sent a group of men to Bangor to talk about northern Maine as a recreational area. I have gotten several requests to allow my land to be used for  recreation. A small sum of money was offered.

  • Anonymous

    It may sound far out, but Obama just sent a group of men to Bangor to talk about northern Maine as a recreational area. I have gotten several requests to allow my land to be used for  recreation. A small sum of money was offered.

  • Anonymous

    It may sound far out, but Obama just sent a group of men to Bangor to talk about northern Maine as a recreational area. I have gotten several requests to allow my land to be used for  recreation. A small sum of money was offered.

  • Anonymous

    It may sound far out, but Obama just sent a group of men to Bangor to talk about northern Maine as a recreational area. I have gotten several requests to allow my land to be used for  recreation. A small sum of money was offered.

  • Anonymous

    I like wide open spaces and that’s why I like living up in the crown… What the UN wants to do is relocate ALL folks from the north to high risers in another areas so as to lessen the impact people have on the world environment.
    Remember the insurance bill that lepage just got passed? It was said that northern Mainers would have to go to southern Maine for treatment. The comments from the paid trolls from the lepage gang put down rural people. 

  • Anonymous

    I like wide open spaces and that’s why I like living up in the crown… What the UN wants to do is relocate ALL folks from the north to high risers in another areas so as to lessen the impact people have on the world environment.
    Remember the insurance bill that lepage just got passed? It was said that northern Mainers would have to go to southern Maine for treatment. The comments from the paid trolls from the lepage gang put down rural people. 

  • Anonymous

    Then the federal govt. can sell it to their cronies. Happens all the time with public lands.

  • Anonymous

    Then the federal govt. can sell it to their cronies. Happens all the time with public lands.

  • Anonymous

    Is this another boat company?

  • Anonymous

    Is this another boat company?

  • Anonymous

    sounds like a song

  • Anonymous

    As I have said in the past the people of Millinocket need better leadership than they have.
    I’m glad to see the people coming out and tuning them up. Go Millinocket residents  

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Nah, Gene won’t be the last person off the boat.  That lights-out thing is probably going to end up being done by somebody else.  Most likely the same person who puts all the chairs up on the desks and cleans the erasers.  With my luck it’ll end up being me.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Nah, Gene won’t be the last person off the boat.  That lights-out thing is probably going to end up being done by somebody else.  Most likely the same person who puts all the chairs up on the desks and cleans the erasers.  With my luck it’ll end up being me.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you continue to post negative things we all already know? Ben you have nothing to add but old news and a tremendous ego.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you continue to post negative things we all already know? Ben you have nothing to add but old news and a tremendous ego.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, and you probably imagined that while you were in the shower…

  • Anonymous

    Yep, and you probably imagined that while you were in the shower…

  • Anonymous

    Do it, Millinocket. Don’t wait for your economy to collaspe any further. Paper is dead.

  • Anonymous

    Do it, Millinocket. Don’t wait for your economy to collaspe any further. Paper is dead.

  • Anonymous

    Medway’s gate is open.

  • Anonymous

    Medway’s gate is open.

  • Anonymous

    I’m think you have all (or most) forgotten what Queen Quimby has done to Maine.  When she first started buying up the state, she BLOCKED

  • Anonymous

    If the land becomes a national park it will no longer belong to Roxanne Quimby but if Acadia is any indication of things to follow no one is going want to tour the woods on foot and on dirt roads that have yet to be planned. It is what Millinocket was a hundred  and twelve years ago–wilderness. Unless visitors really want to rough it they are going to want creature comforts and easy quick access. They will want an already prepared picnic not catch and cook your own meal. 

  • Anonymous

    If the land becomes a national park it will no longer belong to Roxanne Quimby but if Acadia is any indication of things to follow no one is going want to tour the woods on foot and on dirt roads that have yet to be planned. It is what Millinocket was a hundred  and twelve years ago–wilderness. Unless visitors really want to rough it they are going to want creature comforts and easy quick access. They will want an already prepared picnic not catch and cook your own meal. 

  • Anonymous

    Please visit this page, http://www.mainewoodscoalition.org/easy.html

    “Maine Department of
    Conservation Commissioner Ron Lovaglio stated at the Maine Woods
    Conservation Easement Forum that the wood products extracted from the
    3.2 million acres of forestland in the Maine North Woods adds
    approximately $986,000,000 to the Maine economy each year through wages
    and sales of products and services. According to the Maine Office of
    Tourism, the typical overnight visitor to our region spends $85/day. To
    make up for the loss of productivity of locking up 3.2 million acres of
    forestland, a National Park would have to bring 11.6 million ADDITIONAL
    tourists to the region. Nothing the woods industry has ever done would
    have a greater impact to the rural character of Piscataquis County
    (population roughly 17,000) than such an increase in tourism.
    Commissioner Lovaglio wondered aloud how big the tollbooth would have to
    be in Kittery. In Greenville, we wonder how big the mound of trash
    will be each day at the rest area just outside of Town).”

  • Anonymous

    Please visit this page, http://www.mainewoodscoalition.org/easy.html

    “Maine Department of
    Conservation Commissioner Ron Lovaglio stated at the Maine Woods
    Conservation Easement Forum that the wood products extracted from the
    3.2 million acres of forestland in the Maine North Woods adds
    approximately $986,000,000 to the Maine economy each year through wages
    and sales of products and services. According to the Maine Office of
    Tourism, the typical overnight visitor to our region spends $85/day. To
    make up for the loss of productivity of locking up 3.2 million acres of
    forestland, a National Park would have to bring 11.6 million ADDITIONAL
    tourists to the region. Nothing the woods industry has ever done would
    have a greater impact to the rural character of Piscataquis County
    (population roughly 17,000) than such an increase in tourism.
    Commissioner Lovaglio wondered aloud how big the tollbooth would have to
    be in Kittery. In Greenville, we wonder how big the mound of trash
    will be each day at the rest area just outside of Town).”

  • Anonymous

    “You are afraid of change. You are not giving this a chance,” said Paul Renaud, a resident who owns the AT Lodge and Appalachian Trail Cafe. “You say there are all these things you can’t do [with a national park]. What about the things you can do?”

    The only man with common sense who was quoted in this article.   Thank you Paul!

    “The Boys with their Stearns High educations” sitting on the council have their heads turned around backwards because all that they can see past instead of looking towards the future.  They have their ears plugged, blinders on and are scared out of their wits and misinformed by the likes of Eugene C and David C Millinockets finest propogandists!!  This duo should have their own X-files show focused upon the men in black and those nasty green types who are out to steal your children in the dark of the night. 

    In twenty years from now when this current generation has finally gone out to pasture maybe then economic development in the Katahdin region will spurt to life because the region finally will have some people who will not remember the past several decades of decadance that shaped the current self centered mindset. 

  • Anonymous

    burt not bert!

  • Anonymous

    you missed the point…
     
    it is not about manufaxturing jobs…
     
    other business such as tourism, food chains..
     
    they won’t even allow Reny’s in Millnocket, which would bring revenue to this town

  • Anonymous

    you missed the point…
     
    it is not about manufaxturing jobs…
     
    other business such as tourism, food chains..
     
    they won’t even allow Reny’s in Millnocket, which would bring revenue to this town

  • Anonymous

    The largest land owners in the State of Maine already have the most unfettered access to private lands now for hunting, fishing, snowmobiling, etc., that actually bring the big cash to this region. This is an agenda looking for a problem!

    There are more gates and no-trespass signs on the properties owned by the green do-gooders, new Maine transplants, etc., who want national park in Maine or want to create a private little National Park playground at tax payer expense.

    If we do not focus on real job growth in the Millinokcet region, instead of a feel good, blueberry pie, wilderness restoration, romantic view of Maine, there will be no one to run the waster water treatment plants, maintain roads to get to Baxter, nor wait on tables at the local diners, teach at schools nor work at hospitals.

    The boys with their Steans High education, clean the toilets, build your homes, and pump your gas when you visit Millinocket and also created a thriving economy before the new comers found Millinocket. They did the heavy lifting and raised this community and their families by their blood, sweat, and tears, not by your romantic view of what should be. They paid there taxes and built this community you now want them to change to your liking.

  • Anonymous

    That comment is so inane, I’m not even sure how to interpret it.

  • Anonymous

    This is laughable, The only thing up there worth driving for 6 hours to see is already in a park(Baxter). The whole freeken area is basically an evergreen thicket. If it were not for the paper industry you wouldn’t be able to access it.   This reminds me of the clear cut debate where the people that apposed the clear cutting had never tried to walk in the “unspoiled” forest. LOL You Can’t!

  • Anonymous

    So just do nothing?………

  • Anonymous

    hayek……attending a symposium on the mating habits of the tsetse fly would rate more exciting than spending 1 minute at acadia…..

  • Anonymous

    OK then……..go out and get your “real” manufacturing jobs then.  Good luck!

    P.S. – Don’t forget to learn Chinese. ;)

  • Anonymous

    Well stated.  Waiting for people to die off……..isn’t it sad that is Maine’s “best hope” for the future?………

  • Anonymous

    No, do something rational. This is not rational. WE ARE BROKE! WAKE UP!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    And that is why they have things called “towns” right outside of National Parks.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…….

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    An OLD song.

  • Anonymous

    You mean that they are actually listening to the people that have made something of themselves?……..wow.

  • Anonymous

    The only way this will work as I see it; is if Ms. Quimby subsidizes the gas prices of the visitors who drive there to recreate. Example: 2007 GMC Yukon with North Carolina plates. Create a formula of fuel consumption/gas prices/distance traveled…give ( a fraction) in Monopoly Millinocket dollars to be used at participating businesses.

  • Anonymous

    Oh my gosh……..Well Clarice – have the wolves stopped howling?  You still wake up sometimes, don’t you?  You wake up in the dark and hear the howling of the wolves.

  • Anonymous

    Do I have to?  There are much more interesting things to “stay tuned” to…….

  • Anonymous

    regardless of your opinion, Acadia receives over 2 million visitors a year while Baxter receives less than 100,000 a year……so yeah, a national park with about 100,000 visitors annually from a country of over 300 million, you folks are most certainly on track to a great success!

  • Anonymous

    Like the paper companies?……..

  • Anonymous

    Sounds tin foilish to me…….

  • Anonymous

    And yet you voted for him.  Tsk tsk.

  • Anonymous

    Not even create jobs?

  • Anonymous

    Not even create jobs?

  • Anonymous

    Let’s be honest, she’s trying to figure out a way to advance her agenda without paying taxes on the land. 
    Rox, if it’s a great idea just do it and keep the feds and the state out of it. It’s your land do what you want but don’t look to the tax payers to facilitate your dream.  YOU GO GIRL!

  • Anonymous

    Let’s be honest, she’s trying to figure out a way to advance her agenda without paying taxes on the land. 
    Rox, if it’s a great idea just do it and keep the feds and the state out of it. It’s your land do what you want but don’t look to the tax payers to facilitate your dream.  YOU GO GIRL!

  • Anonymous

    Sure Jeff.  Been to Detroit, actually worked out there for a few months.  Been to New Jersey and still have a few friends there.  Also been to 45 of the lower 48 states over the years.  Visited dozens of national parks, especially out west, and most certainly realize that, while Katahdin in is a nice place, it is most certainly not a significant place in national terms.  I mean what is the big difference between Mount Washington, and Mount Monadnock (NH), Mount Mansfield (VT), and Mount Katahdin, as they are all great examples of glaciated mountain environments typical of the northeastern states?

  • Anonymous

    Sure Jeff.  Been to Detroit, actually worked out there for a few months.  Been to New Jersey and still have a few friends there.  Also been to 45 of the lower 48 states over the years.  Visited dozens of national parks, especially out west, and most certainly realize that, while Katahdin in is a nice place, it is most certainly not a significant place in national terms.  I mean what is the big difference between Mount Washington, and Mount Monadnock (NH), Mount Mansfield (VT), and Mount Katahdin, as they are all great examples of glaciated mountain environments typical of the northeastern states?

  • Anonymous

    We need more people with EGO in Maine.

  • Anonymous

    We need more people with EGO in Maine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andyleetheriault Andy Theriault

    kick out the he she out of maine tree huggers dont belong here

  • Anonymous

    Neither do people with low IQs.

  • Anonymous

    I believe that when Rand-McNally puts the letters NP with a green background on its maps in a location that is within a day’s drive of about 1/3 of the U.S. population (and much of Canada’s), people will come. It’s the same exact land, same moose, same rivers, etc., but you would be amazed at how many people in places like NY and Philadelphia are oblivious to the Maine woods. As soon as there’s National Park paved roads, a visitor center or two, campgrounds, brochures and the familiar signage one encounters in all National Parks, many of the oblivious will start to take notice. And now they will have a reason to come and the lodging, restaurants and other amenities will follow.Don’t sell ourselves short – the Maine woods are indeed a special place. The last time I climbed Katahdin I met a Californian who had climbed Sequoia National Park’s Mt. Whitney, the tallest peak in the lower 48 and he said that Katahdin was every bit as beautiful and a tougher climb. After the NPS gets done branding the park’s many attractions and trailheads with its signs, brochures, maps and puts it all in a 20 minute Visitor Center film, the number of “attractions” that will be highlighted as such in the park will be very impressive and present itself as one compelling package.Looking at the whole area, including Baxter State Park, the list of natural attractions would be very solid, for example:- Baxter Peak and the Knife Edge- Chimney Pond- Many of the easily accessible lakes and ponds in BSP such as Katahdin Lake, Sandy Stream, Daicey, Grassy, Whidden, South Branch, etc.- Various waterfalls such as Katahdin Falls, the Niagras, Shin Falls, etc.- Numerous smaller peaks in Baxter- Peaks to the east of BSP with incredible views of Katahdin such as Deasey Mountain- The East and West Branches of the Penobscot- Lesser known rivers like Wassataquoik and Seboeis- Debsconeag Lakes Wilderness Area - Canoe trips- Rafting- Hike in only fishing- A huge concentration of moose- Bald eagles- Alaska like vistas along the Golden Road- Foliage watching with an often snowcapped Katahdin in early October (often snowcapped until early June as well)- First sunrise in U.S. seen from the east at certain times of the year (I think)- Easy day trips to nearby Gulf Hagas Gorge and Mattawamkeag Wilderness Park- Terminus of Appalachian Trail and International Appalachian Trail- Gateway to the AllagashAdd to this the area’s rich history that to date has been under-marketed from the tourism point of view, e.g., Thoreau, Teddy Roosevelt (Bible Point in Island Falls), Justice William O. Douglas, the Lumberman’s Museum, Appalachian Trail thru hikers finishing up at the end of the summer, historic sporting camps, the school of Katahdin painters (Frederick Church, Marsden Hartley, etc.) and the modern day school of Katahdin painters they have inspired, etc. Outside of Baxter and in the National Park, some of the potholed and rutted logging roads that presently scare off 90% of people from cities and suburbs would become hospitable with pavement and welcoming NP signage. I imagine also that some of these would be plowed in the winter, opening up opportunities for snowshoeing and skiing into grand views of Katahdin from the east.The park would also be marketed as part of Maine’s parks – Maine Woods and Acadia. A week’s vacation from places a full travel day away would allow visits to two National Parks, less than three hours apart. Visitors flying into Bangor could get to a Maine woods NP in under two hours and Acadia in no more than an hour and a half. The Maine hat trick of seeing a moose, being photographed in front of a light house and eating a lobster would essentially be assured.One of the reasons that Baxter State Park is unknown to most persons in places like Manhattan is the area lacks lodging and other amenities. To be sure there is some, but hardly what one finds in other places such as Lake Placid, NY in the Adirondack preserve or Estes Park, Co, right outside of Rocky Mountain National Park. With a National Park, this sort of development would surely materialize over time, as would larger number of visitors drawn to the improved facilities. Millinocket and some of the small towns to the east proximate to possible eastern and southern entrances to the National Park would become National Park gateways.While many of the jobs created would be low wage, (far better than no wage), those owning real estate, particularly with road frontage on roads leading to the park might prosper. Entrepreneurs could do very well. Just google Estes Park and look at the types of businesses there.Portland would also benefit from a National Park as an overnighting point replete with its own natural and manmade attractions. L.L. Bean and Cabela’s would be natural stops to pick up items for the trip on the way up. Clearly, the stopover traffic would greatly expand sampling of the Portland area. Bangor would likely benefit as well.

  • Anonymous

    Yet, any imaginary “industry” that is forthcoming to the “new” Millinocket will undoubtedly ask for MILLIONS of $$$ in tax breaks………bah-dum-dum.

  • Anonymous

    One problem with your scenario…….people from the South don’t vacation in New England!

  • Anonymous

    I AM AWAKE!  DO YOU HAVE ANY BRIGHT IDEAS TO ATTRACT NEW INDUSTRY TO MILLINOCKET???? 

    Dontcha just love CAPS? ;)

  • Anonymous

    Would Acadia State Park attract 2 million visitors per year???………doubt it.

  • Anonymous

    My condolences on the Detroit thing…….as well as the NJ thing too.

    Since you been to so many places, you MUST have some good ideas on how to attract industry and jobs to the remote Maine forests of Northern Maine!!!……????

  • Anonymous

    So the Chinese benefit again…….what’s your point?

  • Anonymous

    suggested activities if you plan to spend one day at acadia (from their website) take a short walk on a trail or carriage road…participate in a ranger-led talk or walk…..investigate the nature center, where you can learn about plants and animals and how the park manages them……yeah, hayek…..this has the feel of the adrenaline rush from skydiving, bungee jumping, and extreme skiing combined….. ”What the heak is so special about freakin’ Katahdin?”

  • Anonymous

    Always had a crush on Doris Day, especially when she sang Que Sera, Sera :o)

  • Anonymous

    Just won’t happen, Bar Harbor is as much of a draw as Acadia, 40 cruise ships drop anchor there, oh and IT’S on the OCEAN!!  The woods are free now, if that doesn’t bring anyone, someone with a funny hat and badge isn’t going to bring them.

  • Anonymous

    Well you can say one thing, Quimby seems to have infiltrated Millinocket’s Town Council well. Not enough information, what a cop-out. Another way to say they are for it, and just do not want to say, I think. “what you can do” do not outweight, what you can not do. With those comments, saying one is “not for nor against” who is he trying to kid.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you PenobScot. The people of Katahdin have been told the lie so often that they almost believe the lie that there is nothing here.  Last night a town counselor got an earful when he repeated this lie. His statement Baxter State park does nothing for the area and there is nothing on the land east of Baxter. The following letter by penobscot  scratches the surface of the magnificent bounty that has been the best kept secret. What the tourist industry could be promoting is hidden away because the woods industry does not want the competition for their land. My question  to those who defended this long held industial attitude of ( we must do what is right for the paper industry). My question to these unemployed mill supporters is. So!  How is that working for you?  

  • Anonymous

    “Faux News”..hehe..sort of like where you get your news cBS.

  • Anonymous

    Why turn paradise into a national park anyway?

  • Anonymous

    Are any of the attactions that you listed in the proposed area?

  • Anonymous

    You talk too much. I’m from Maine.

  • Anonymous

    You talk too much. I’m from Maine.

  • Anonymous

    you know what will really destroy access to private lands?  Piecemeal division and development. You can’t count on this private land being accessible forever, especially know that ownership changes hands so often.

  • Anonymous

    we pay the taxes on it?  don’t you think it was already in tree growth before? 

  • Anonymous

    you don’t think Katahdin is special?

  • Anonymous

    I said talk to me, any Ideas?

  • Anonymous

    Well, unlike Washington and Mansfield, Mt. Katahdin doesn’t have a road, train, ski lift, radio, or TV tower on it…

    Katahdin is one of the most remote and alpine-like mountains east of the rockies.  I know people that come from all over the country to climb it (the serious climbers come in winter and do the technical ice routes — some of the most committing and remote east of the Mississippi)

  • Anonymous

    If you go there you will see that the “land around Walden Pond” benefits greatly from preservation. No matter what time of year you go to that area, people are there Spending Money.

  • Anonymous

    If you go there you will see that the “land around Walden Pond” benefits greatly from preservation. No matter what time of year you go to that area, people are there Spending Money.

  • Anonymous

    Jeff,  they just don’t get it.  how many people does Quoddy Head State Park draw?  It is a beautiful place, but few people outside of Maine would have heard of it.  There were haters when George Dorr and John Rockefeller started buying up land to preserve as a national park. These rich people used their money for the benefit of all future generations and now we have a national treasure.

  • Anonymous

    large scale manufacturing in is dieing, especially in small remote towns.  The world is changing around Millinocket, but its people are stuck in the past.  The modern economy favors urban areas with diverse populations and a critical mass of skilled technology workers.

  • Anonymous

    you just want to hold your hand out to the state when the mill closes for good

  • Anonymous

    The line of once you have found paradise it’s gone. This may be a truism. Why change it? The history of the area has changed. While the industrialist supported a lively economy for over a hundred years this has not been so now for a long time. The towns that grew up around the paper industry need a ways and means of supporting themselves. One way to do this is to redefine themselves. One way to do this is to recreate. One vision is to keep most development in the areas that are already developed. We have schools, churches, hospital and many underutilized homes. The vision is to build information centers in these  developed area. From these locations on the edge of paradise,  we can direct tourist towards the many fascinating destinations.   Suggest to them how they may be shuttled into distant areas. Show them they could ride a natural gas driven bus or an electric powered system to a far reaching destination. Then walk, hike bicycle,ski, snow shoe  kayak, canoe, take the bus back to the developed area’s. The roads can remain small because of less traffic while more people will be discovering paradise. The property values in the towns can be maintained instead of the devaluation that has been going on now for twenty-five years. We have here the rear opportunity to control the sprawl into paradise while giving many the opportunity to live and recreate on the edges of paradise 

  • Anonymous

    it is on any significant scale.  How many people did the mills employ 20 years ago?  Those jobs are never coming back,   you will be lucky to get back even 20% of the jobs that will be gone for good when the mills are dismantled

  • Anonymous

    DO YOU?????

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, it’s nothing but a wilderness; no significiant numbers of families in their right mind are going to travel across the country to walk around the wilderness of Katahdin.

  • Anonymous

    I am a NP supporter, but the White Mountains National Forest is a very popular tourist destination

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think anyone would dispute the fact that people come from around the country and possibly the world to climb Katahdin.  However, they don’t drop enough money to keep even one business in operation.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think anyone would dispute the fact that people come from around the country and possibly the world to climb Katahdin.  However, they don’t drop enough money to keep even one business in operation.

  • Anonymous

    you can walk in old growth forest.  It is the heavy cutting our forests went though that made them impossible to walk in.

  • Anonymous

    …and even those in Maine who know of Quoddy could care less and are not going to take a day or two to drive and visit.

  • Anonymous

    …and even those in Maine who know of Quoddy could care less and are not going to take a day or two to drive and visit.

  • Anonymous

    But a major point is, what does a park or what will a park do for Millinocket — nothing of any financial significance. 

  • Anonymous

    But a major point is, what does a park or what will a park do for Millinocket — nothing of any financial significance. 

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Anonymous

    speak for yourself.  I have driven there, and will again spending money along the way.

  • Diogenes

    Millinocket condemning the park is like a drowning man refusing a life jacket.  The solution is simple; wait for the mill to close and Ms. Quimby can buy the whole town for a couple of bottles of Allen’s.

  • Anonymous

    True enough and I believe a great many of us are just expressing a feeling that a park will do nothing for Maine in terms of becoming fiscally sound.  Additionally, my issue is that Quimby had best foot the bill for ongoing operation because our state and federal tax dollars should not be used.  Please remember, state and federal park systems throughout the country are in dire need of more tax dollars; tax dollars that in this day and age should be going elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Madore sure folded like a little wimp; obviously I gave him more credit for having a backbone… I am glad that Herbie Clark, Jimmy Bisque, David Cyr and Johnny Davis supported what most resident’s feel— Send Roxanne Packing..!

    It looks like the “tax payer funded” feasibility study will go ahead and be done by a greenie, and conclude sunshine and lollypops for Roxanne.

    I am glad about one thing “this will” come down to a vote by the residents of Millinocket…!

  • Anonymous

    Wrong; it would not be able to be sold if she gives with the stipulation that it be protected park lands and then you and I will be footing the bill.

  • Anonymous

    Amen..

  • Anonymous

    Amen..

  • Anonymous

    Amen..

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly! so I say keep your damn land Quimby.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Solomon/100001908192040 Joe Solomon

    How bout we make Old Town the gateway to the new Southern Maine National Park and obliterate everything south of Old Town down as far as Portland, turn it all back into woods and then the Outa statas wouldn’t have to drive as far for the Park.Oh but I suppose you all will stand up to the big money and fight, right…just saying theres 2 sides to every story, sometimes theres even 3 sides… 

  • Anonymous

    Why does Millinocket have anything to say about what happens in an unorganized territory? This should be a State or Federal decision put out to referendum for the whole state to vote on. It is all our tax money and this decision should not rest with the three ring circus known as Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    After the liberals have driven out the paper industry with unions, land restrictions, and anti-business practices, it’s doubtful there is anything left BUT a park. It’s been a long term effort going back to Jonathon Carter and it’s worked. Might as well turn out the lights on Northern Maine. Everyone move to Portland and work in the restaurants for the incoming park visitors.
    That’s all that’s going to be left when they are done!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBHAWY2DGMGS5W3VHFYLBPN7AU Jay C

    Stop waiting for the mill to reopen and get on with your lives.   People need to male a living and put food on their tables.  Millinocket has an opportunity to become a huge tourist destination and to revitalize the town and there are a few boneheads that are going to blow it for the whole town.

  • Anonymous

    Mainahh….Millinocket shouldn’t have anything to say, and they don’t and won’t. And yes, the whole state will have the final say on this.

    That’s not a three ring circus up there. It is more like the Titanic. And Conlogue is telling the crew to rearrange the deck chairs while the band plays on.

  • Anonymous

    To save it from greed and self-interest, that’s why.

  • Anonymous

    To save it from greed and self-interest, that’s why.

  • Anonymous

    To save it from greed and self-interest, that’s why.

  • Anonymous

    To save it from greed and self-interest, that’s why.

  • Anonymous

    To save it from greed and self-interest, that’s why.

  • Anonymous

    To save it from greed and self-interest, that’s why.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I would suggest they expand it to about 3.1 milllion acres, and make it a bigger park.

  • Anonymous

    I know, I know and we should all go back where we came from. Ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    How is a clear cut any different than a forest fire? Is there anything more natural than a forest fire? Just try walking through the “old growth” in Baxter. (That’s off the trail) You can’t do it. I know I’ve been there many times. To be honest you can do it but you’ll spend much of your time crawling on your belly. 

  • Anonymous

    Millinocket will not be the be all end all in this decision. Just because you can’t see beyond the mill in your backyard doesn’t mean the rest of us in the area can’t.

  • Anonymous

    I assume you would be on board with tax breaks for any idea that created jobs? Otherwise you would sound a bit hypocritical. 

  • Anonymous

    Nah! That thinking got us into the mess we are in. Johnathan Carter warned of the upcoming closures if we continued to allow the multi- national to control the natural resources.  Johnathan pointed out that the multi-national were planning to close mills and then sell Maine’s pulp off shore. We had the alternative in question 2 back then. A Canadian wrote the bill to stop Johnathan Carters bill.   That alternative was called 2C.  Follow the money and you will see what that got us.   Again. I ask you “How is that working for you”? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    look at the money Acadia National Park brings in to Bar Harbor. only thing Bar Harbor isnt to lively in the winter. the island does well

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    southern maine is also getting a full service casino now Lepage is saying NO to Hollywood Slots 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Davida-Willette/100000655412147 Davida Willette

    let the casino in oxford be the new national park Sebago Lake area 

  • Anonymous

    What he is saying is that visitors don’t feed the residents already.  Tourism creates only low paying jobs.  To a person who worked in a factory an $11 an hour job (if it is even nearly that much) to take a seasonal job in tourism is literally “not feeding them.”  So, the end result of this will be even more people in that area on public assistance.  The far reaching effects of national parks are mitigated by the size of the state they are in.  A small state like Maine (I’m comparing Maine to Montana, California, and the other national park states) will be much more affected by slapping a national park in the Maine woods. There are ranches in Texas the size of this proposed national park.

    You would be wise to consider this option carefully.  The most visited national park in the US is in Tennessee.   Try driving the roads within 30 miles during tourist season.  Look at the jobs created in the vicinity, all low paying retail sales outlets.  Don’t get me wrong, its better than nothing, but many of the people who work in retail  are are still on food stamps and public assistance because their incomes are so low.

    DUH!

  • Anonymous

    We spend $10 billion a month building what in Afghanistan? (or is it a week?)   Time for this country to get its priorities straight by ending that war and spending some of that $$$ on our national parks instead of paying off the Taliban. 

  • Anonymous

    We spend $10 billion a month building what in Afghanistan? (or is it a week?)   Time for this country to get its priorities straight by ending that war and spending some of that $$$ on our national parks instead of paying off the Taliban. 

  • Anonymous

    OK, Millinocket!

    How many of you are:
    On social security?
    Collecting unemployment?
    Enrolled in Medicare and Medicaid?
    Receiving food stamps?
    Receiving social security disability for yourselves or someone in your family?

    And are you not opposed to the government here in Maine using our taxpayer money to buy the landfill we will all have to pay to clean up? You are obviously not opposed to the state using our money to line the pockets of another industry that exploits our resources and our people and then bails out.

    Some lousy government we have, isn’t it? The great liberal conspiracy. And if the Republicans here and in Congress have their way, you can say good bye to all of those benefits.

    The days of paper making and forestry jobs are gone. The good people of Millinocket deserve a leader with vision, not the retro-view of Mr. Conlogue, Herbie Clark, and their minions whose only tools are fear and lies.

    How can a 30,000 acre national park possibly hurt? That land represents less than 1/10 of all the available land open to timber harvesting in those 10 million acres in the North Woods. Besides, more than 2 million acres have already been posted, with more and more every year.

    I don’t see what is wrong with tourist industry jobs when no jobs are the alternative. Those business people on Mount Desert Island seem to be doing just fine. In fact, they and the economy are prospering.

  • Anonymous

    OK, Millinocket!

    How many of you are:
    On social security?
    Collecting unemployment?
    Enrolled in Medicare and Medicaid?
    Receiving food stamps?
    Receiving social security disability for yourselves or someone in your family?

    And are you not opposed to the government here in Maine using our taxpayer money to buy the landfill we will all have to pay to clean up? You are obviously not opposed to the state using our money to line the pockets of another industry that exploits our resources and our people and then bails out.

    Some lousy government we have, isn’t it? The great liberal conspiracy. And if the Republicans here and in Congress have their way, you can say good bye to all of those benefits.

    The days of paper making and forestry jobs are gone. The good people of Millinocket deserve a leader with vision, not the retro-view of Mr. Conlogue, Herbie Clark, and their minions whose only tools are fear and lies.

    How can a 30,000 acre national park possibly hurt? That land represents less than 1/10 of all the available land open to timber harvesting in those 10 million acres in the North Woods. Besides, more than 2 million acres have already been posted, with more and more every year.

    I don’t see what is wrong with tourist industry jobs when no jobs are the alternative. Those business people on Mount Desert Island seem to be doing just fine. In fact, they and the economy are prospering.

  • Anonymous

    - Peaks to the east of BSP with incredible views of Katahdin such as Deasey Mountain
    - The East and West Branches of the Penobscot
    - Lesser known rivers like Wassataquoik and Seboeis - Hike in only fishing
    - A huge concentration of moose- Bald eagles - Foliage watching with an often snowcapped Katahdin in early October (often snowcapped until early June as well)- First sunrise in U.S. seen from the east at certain times of the year (I think) 
    - Gateway to the Allagash
     Add to this the area’s rich history that to date has been under-marketed from the tourism point of view, e.g., Thoreau, Teddy Roosevelt
    these are just a few of the wonders that are within the proposed area.
    Think about it if one was to travel to an unknown state. Where would they go. The answer most of the time is to a National Park.

  • Anonymous

    - Peaks to the east of BSP with incredible views of Katahdin such as Deasey Mountain
    - The East and West Branches of the Penobscot
    - Lesser known rivers like Wassataquoik and Seboeis - Hike in only fishing
    - A huge concentration of moose- Bald eagles - Foliage watching with an often snowcapped Katahdin in early October (often snowcapped until early June as well)- First sunrise in U.S. seen from the east at certain times of the year (I think) 
    - Gateway to the Allagash
     Add to this the area’s rich history that to date has been under-marketed from the tourism point of view, e.g., Thoreau, Teddy Roosevelt
    these are just a few of the wonders that are within the proposed area.
    Think about it if one was to travel to an unknown state. Where would they go. The answer most of the time is to a National Park.

  • Anonymous

    - Peaks to the east of BSP with incredible views of Katahdin such as Deasey Mountain
    - The East and West Branches of the Penobscot
    - Lesser known rivers like Wassataquoik and Seboeis - Hike in only fishing
    - A huge concentration of moose- Bald eagles - Foliage watching with an often snowcapped Katahdin in early October (often snowcapped until early June as well)- First sunrise in U.S. seen from the east at certain times of the year (I think) 
    - Gateway to the Allagash
     Add to this the area’s rich history that to date has been under-marketed from the tourism point of view, e.g., Thoreau, Teddy Roosevelt
    these are just a few of the wonders that are within the proposed area.
    Think about it if one was to travel to an unknown state. Where would they go. The answer most of the time is to a National Park.

  • Anonymous

    There’s already alot of places to camp, fish, boat, hike ,hunt ect… without any park and alot cheaper to go and stay if you want to camp; without the added control and cost that would come along with a national park

  • Anonymous

    There’s already alot of places to camp, fish, boat, hike ,hunt ect… without any park and alot cheaper to go and stay if you want to camp; without the added control and cost that would come along with a national park

  • Anonymous

    There’s already alot of places to camp, fish, boat, hike ,hunt ect… without any park and alot cheaper to go and stay if you want to camp; without the added control and cost that would come along with a national park

  • Anonymous

    I’ve walked through real old growth out west. Honestly, there is very
    little old growth in Maine, even in Baxter.

    I agree that areas that were cleared by forest fire are also difficult to
    walk through. You have lots of small trees fairly close together.

  • Anonymous

     Roxanne Quimby has 70,000 acres that she wants to GIVE to the Govt. who in turn will GIVE Millinocket a place to attract tourists from all over the country and perhaps the world.  The wood forest industry is dying but even if it comes back how will this park interfere with it since the land is protected from the wood forest industry anyway? They will function side by side and if in fact the industry goes away completely the possibility of the park expanding is not a bad one. National park status does not preclude hunting and fishing. Our esteemed governor has his eyes on the area for more development which=more privatization, more restriction. I would take this gift and run. The way I see it this is a huge win for an  economically and physically  depressed area. Your business people get it. 

  • Anonymous

    Do you hate living 15 minutes from the high school you graduated from 26 years later? Your attitude towards more populated areas sure makes it sound that way.

  • Anonymous

    Do you hate living 15 minutes from the high school you graduated from 26 years later? Your attitude towards more populated areas sure makes it sound that way.

  • Anonymous

    Do you hate living 15 minutes from the high school you graduated from 26 years later? Your attitude towards more populated areas sure makes it sound that way.

  • Anonymous

    Do you hate living 15 minutes from the high school you graduated from 26 years later? Your attitude towards more populated areas sure makes it sound that way.

  • Anonymous

    Do you hate living 15 minutes from the high school you graduated from 26 years later? Your attitude towards more populated areas sure makes it sound that way.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care about Bangorian’s theoretical fapparatus.  D:

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care about Bangorian’s theoretical fapparatus.  D:

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care about Bangorian’s theoretical fapparatus.  D:

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care about Bangorian’s theoretical fapparatus.  D:

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

     u jelly?

  • Anonymous

    *A wild keyboard shaped bruise appears on EdwardNigma’s forehead.*

  • Anonymous

    “The comments from the paid trolls from the lepage gang put down rural
    people.”

    If that’s true, he’s biting the hand that feeds.

  • Anonymous

    “The comments from the paid trolls from the lepage gang put down rural
    people.”

    If that’s true, he’s biting the hand that feeds.

  • Anonymous

    “The comments from the paid trolls from the lepage gang put down rural
    people.”

    If that’s true, he’s biting the hand that feeds.

  • Anonymous

    Blocked all access to HER land… hmmmmm.  Thats a funny thing isn’t it?  Private ownership. I suppose you wouldn’t care if I come over to your house tonight; watch TV on your couch and drink all your beer!

  • Anonymous

    Blocked all access to HER land… hmmmmm.  Thats a funny thing isn’t it?  Private ownership. I suppose you wouldn’t care if I come over to your house tonight; watch TV on your couch and drink all your beer!

  • Anonymous

    Blocked all access to HER land… hmmmmm.  Thats a funny thing isn’t it?  Private ownership. I suppose you wouldn’t care if I come over to your house tonight; watch TV on your couch and drink all your beer!

  • Anonymous

     Or at least until Maine decides it wants to build the infrastructure and workforce to allow a business to complete….

  • Anonymous

    removed

  • Anonymous

     He got a BDN reader to click a HuffPo link.

    Achievement unlocked.

  • Dumbb All Over

    Millonocket dumbbies: There will be no paper mill(s). Better roll with the changes and take every opportunity as it rolls your way. Wake up this is 2011 not 1911.

  • Anonymous

    The last thing this State needs is another National Park.  It’s already one giant park as in empty.  What that area needs is jobs not more trees to look at.

  • Anonymous

     Medium market? ಠ_ಠ

    :p

  • Anonymous

    Funny isn’t it?  I know LePage is dumb, but I can’t imagine he is that dumb.  Without rural Maine there is no way he would be elected.

  • Anonymous

    Wendy is cute!!

  • Anonymous

    Wendy is cute!!

  • Anonymous

    Wendy is cute!!

  • Anonymous

    how will it come down to a vote by the residents of Millinocket?  It is her land.  If you guys don’t want to be a part of it, then you’ll just be bipassed and all of the park service infrastructure will be located somewhere else, like Medway.

  • Anonymous

    It’s kinda weird the same people who support Roxanne Quimby blocking all access under the banner “ Private Property” , are the ones protesting what Plum Creek does with their Private Property. (Comment not aimed at you downeastdave, just a point I have noticed in the general sense).

  • Anonymous

    It’s kinda weird the same people who support Roxanne Quimby blocking all access under the banner “ Private Property” , are the ones protesting what Plum Creek does with their Private Property. (Comment not aimed at you downeastdave, just a point I have noticed in the general sense).

  • Anonymous

    It’s kinda weird the same people who support Roxanne Quimby blocking all access under the banner “ Private Property” , are the ones protesting what Plum Creek does with their Private Property. (Comment not aimed at you downeastdave, just a point I have noticed in the general sense).

  • Anonymous

    LOL , you must be older than BSP.!!

  • Anonymous

    LOL , you must be older than BSP.!!

  • Anonymous

    LOL , you must be older than BSP.!!

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    The issue is whether to place this land in the Federal Govt’s control.
    Here is why:
    US Park Service is a huge bureaucracy.
    Nat. Park concessions are run by multi-national corps. (low wages)
    Many contractors will be from out of state.
    A new federal police force created in Maine.
    expensive admission fees.

    Maybe we could put some of these issues on the table and negotiate to better serve Mainers.
     

  • Anonymous

    “People have lived in these areas from time immemorial”  um, not so much.  Millinocket was non existant and was built from scratch when the created the first paper mill.

  • Anonymous

    I believe shes lying. She buys up all the land in Maine. Then prevents anyone from hunting it. Which is ok, because its hers. I just wish the rest of us had a chance to get it. However her and the feds and other hunting hating people like to step on our toes and keep us from killing poor wittle wabbits.
    Give more power and land to the federal government thats what we need….

  • Tax All Liberals

    She is as cute as they get in Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    GREAT IDEA!!!!   To have another National park here in Maine…..Maybe Acadia will back off on taking/buying more land on MDI….They can’t handle what they already have……

  • Tax All Liberals

    Nobody is going to drive to Millinocket to look at spruce trees.

  • Tax All Liberals

    Nobody is going to drive to Millinocket to look at spruce trees.

  • Tax All Liberals

    Nobody is going to drive to Millinocket to look at spruce trees.

  • Tax All Liberals

    I think the state should take it by eminent domain before the Feds get involved.

  • Anonymous

    as long as the lands in tree growth it belongs to the tax payer!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    People like Busque have no vision right in front of them, or God help us, any where down the road. Mrs. Polstein’s argument is rational and economically futuristic. It is NOT a death sentence to the forest industry which is now a surname for cash flow ravaging by investment groups. The “forest industry” is dying of its own accord  and if Millinocket is so suicidedly stubborn then they will follow suit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    986,000,000????? What amount of that went to Mainers not the brass at mills and their out of state investors?

  • Anonymous

    I do, thanks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    Hows the mean Millinocket income now? Any unemployment benefits or food stamps being handed out? Maybe the Park would not cure all ills but Millinocket would have vanished long ago without Baxter.

  • Anonymous

    1. Its her land and she should be congratulated for attempting to dedicate it to public use.
    2. At least her plan/dream preserves public access.
    3. The alternate ultimate fate of the land would very likely be concentrations of cottages and condos with the remainder absentee -owned 40 acre fiefdoms, all posted.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but I do have a say in
    this, especially if this “taxpayer funded” feasibility study is conducted some
    treeghuggen liberal…!

     

    And,,, it was Senator Collins
    that said her support would require a majority of public support from the
    people in that area…

     

    In short a vote…!

     

    Or do you have a problem with
    the voting process..? ID’s required…!

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Having read most of these comments I think all of you should take a drive to Mt. Dessert and see what people there think of Acadia. While Bar Harbor does have tourists the jobs are all seasonal, all low paying, and the rents are so high in the town that none of the employees can afford to live there and work there. They are struggling every summer for help because of that. With gas prices rising they are going to be in need of even more help because the help can’t afford to get there to work!

    There are so many tourists that most locals, unless they own a business, get out of town as much as they can because of the congestion during the summer. The property taxes are ridiculous for the average Mainer and as with most of Maine, you see homes and business’s up for sale all over the place. Basically it is a town that only the wealthy can afford to live in yet they need the poor to do all the work and the poor can’t afford to live there. So in the end, what has this park done for the people of Bar Harbor? Not a damn thing but make life more difficult. Jackson Labs on the other hand has created hundreds of jobs and middle clas, tax paying, Americans.

    It is Quimby’s land and she can do what she wants with it. But once she turns it over to be a Federal Park then it’s OUR LAND and we PAY for it. Of course the Feds have to accept it to begin with.

    Also, I thought tree growth was only for those with more than 10 acres but less then 100? I could be wrong but mine is in it and we have 60 acres. And if we take it out of tree growth we have to pay the last 5 years in back taxes on what it would have been if it had not been in tree growth.

    If Quimbly really wanted to help Millinocket  or any town in Northern Maine she would never have up and moved Bert’s Bee’s to N.C. when she started to make money. But she did it because it was better for her own pocketbook. She burned her bridges when she did that.

  • Anonymous

    NO NO NO NO NO NO!! What part of that doesn’t she understand.. We dont want Maine turned into a giant state park. NO NO NO NO.
    BAN ROXANNE!! She is a cancer to the state of maine!!

  • Anonymous

    I love my freedoms so much, I want them bigger! I want to use them to take away the freedom and land of others! I’m so American.

  • Anonymous

    I love my freedoms so much, I want them bigger! I want to use them to take away the freedom and land of others! I’m so American.

  • Anonymous

    I love my freedoms so much, I want them bigger! I want to use them to take away the freedom and land of others! I’m so American.

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    I love my freedoms so much, I want them bigger! I want to use them to take away the freedom and land of others! I’m so American.

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant! Maybe you should give your property to the government…

  • Anonymous

    What’s your alternative?  And what are you talking about, short season? Fall in Maine is beautiful. Many tourists come to see the leaves. Same with winter.

  • Anonymous

    Only because they built infrastructure to get there and allowed towns in and around to develop…….much different than Maine.

  • Anonymous

    LOL……..and you are good for it?

  • Anonymous

    A lot of these commenters seem resentful. It seems like they’re hurting and they need to find something or someone to blame. A national park and Quimby seem easy to point the finger at, but that’s not what it’s really about. That’s not why Millinocket (or the state….the entire country) is suffering.

  • Bangorme

    I don’t know much about Ms. Quimby, but I’ve heard of nothing she’s done so far to limit access to this land.  My objection to the national park idea is that is removes all this property from the state’s tax base.  Alaska complains about this all the time and constantly fights to get more of it’s land away from the feds.  If Ms. Quimby offered to establish a fund to reemburse the state for revenue lost in perpetuity and had a Baxter Park kind of arrangement, I’d be all for this plan.  Just think about the number of tourists that would be drawn to the area if it were regularly maintained.  As it is, people can’t eat the woods.

  • Anonymous

    So you are saying……..just let Millinocket die???

  • Anonymous

    She left Maine because Maine “wasn’t open for business.”

  • Anonymous

    She left Maine because Maine “wasn’t open for business.”

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that you know exactly how to interpret it. Milo won.

  • Anonymous

    If Quimby wants a park,,,, fine, but not a national park….!

    Even liberal actor Sam Waterston is rallying for additional money to keep what we have from crumbling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    It seems the less informed members of the council should have done their homework “before” deciding to blindly backing a taxpayer funded liberal landmark,,, that “will” come with a many restrictions. Go through this— do your own friggen home work— the end result will conclude that WE CANT AFFORD IT http://www.npca.org/

    Bottom line, Quimby can spinher liberal la-la land anyway she wants, but the hard reality is that WE CANT AFFORD IT….!

  • Anonymous

    Seriously.  Just another hypocritical conservative.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SPRR3RCM3FM6XC5T2CPUZGC2ZU Dana

    This article just goes to show you that all the folks in Millinocket are interested in is an industry that has passed them by. This is Quimbys private land if I am not mistaken. No forest products can come out of it anyways. There are more than enough northern maine woods to sustain the logging industry. You can’t have it both ways. Millinocket needs to start looking for something else to replace the paper factories.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SPRR3RCM3FM6XC5T2CPUZGC2ZU Dana

    This article just goes to show you that all the folks in Millinocket are interested in is an industry that has passed them by. This is Quimbys private land if I am not mistaken. No forest products can come out of it anyways. There are more than enough northern maine woods to sustain the logging industry. You can’t have it both ways. Millinocket needs to start looking for something else to replace the paper factories.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SPRR3RCM3FM6XC5T2CPUZGC2ZU Dana

    This article just goes to show you that all the folks in Millinocket are interested in is an industry that has passed them by. This is Quimbys private land if I am not mistaken. No forest products can come out of it anyways. There are more than enough northern maine woods to sustain the logging industry. You can’t have it both ways. Millinocket needs to start looking for something else to replace the paper factories.

  • Anonymous

    They can’t???

  • Anonymous

    They can’t???

  • Anonymous

    They can’t???

  • Anonymous

    They can’t???

  • Anonymous

    They can’t???

  • Anonymous

    They can’t???

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    The season if 12 months long….year ’round sports and outdoor activity. Acadia by contrast is seasonal.

    If a park won’t help even a little, what will? The naysayers don’t offer ANY solutions. All they do is argue anything that isn’t mill work. Sad. That forgone hope has only led to unemployment and welfare.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    You can only negotiate when you actually have a leg to stand on.  Since Maine is only reactionary on everything (see casino mess)…….beggars can’t be choosers.

  • Anonymous

    If Quimby wants a park,,,, fine, but not a national park….!

    Even liberal actor Sam Waterston is rallying for additional money to keep what we have from crumbling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    It seems the less informed members of the council should have done their homework “before” deciding to blindly backing a taxpayer funded liberal landmark,,, that “will” come with a many restrictions. Go through this— do your own friggen home work— the end result will conclude that WE CANT AFFORD IT http://www.npca.org/

    Bottom line, Quimby can spin her liberal la-la land anyway she wants, but the hard reality is that WE CANT AFFORD IT….!

    Put it to a vote of area residents…!

  • Anonymous

    I donate money to national parks, I will help support this park.

  • Anonymous

    So what is YOUR idea to bring in jobs???  All the naysayers seem to be big on rhetoric……..but not many ideas.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.  The old-timers will go down with the ship though……..so stoic.

  • Anonymous

    You just don’t get it……..not surprising though.

  • Anonymous

    Um, spanky… Katahdin is ALREADY in a park… and that park ain’t flooding the area with tourist dollars.
    The new park won’t have Katahadin, it will have a few swamps and a lot of trees.  Personally, I like swamps and trees, but I like them because that is where the DEER and MOOSE are…

    We ain’t gonna draw massive amounts of people to a park that has no real “attractions”… This is something for Quimby’s ego.

    Having said that, it is her land, and she is making concessions to the locals. But no one says that they have to support it.

  • Anonymous

    I doubt you have the kind of money it would take to support this nightmare, and WHO is going to be selected to do this feasibility study…?

  • Anonymous

    Shhhhh……..”they” don’t want to hear the truth.

  • Anonymous

    So go to Baxter, that is already a park…

  • Anonymous

    Yeah……..this thing will not ultimately be determined by Millinocket.  It is bigger than them and everyone in Maine will have a say.  As many have commented already…….Medway can be the gateway if Millinocket drops the ball.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you mean the Republican politicians and their corporate allies that have driven jobs to cheap labor countries???

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you mean the Republican politicians and their corporate allies that have driven jobs to cheap labor countries???

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Long/1499408399 Jack Long

    Big difference between Breaking and Entering someone’s residence,  and some outa state flatlander buying up millions of acres of woodland and closing it off to locals.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Long/1499408399 Jack Long

    Big difference between Breaking and Entering someone’s residence,  and some outa state flatlander buying up millions of acres of woodland and closing it off to locals.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, apparently the truth hurts….

  • Anonymous

    Yessah!…I hear tell that a group of good ol boys at the local hook n’ bullet club is gonna get together and reinvigorate the forest products industry in Northern Maine by forming a a collective of sorts. Them boys is gonna start a toothy pick factory once Eugene C and David C gets their pocket knifes sharpend…  Might even whittle up a toy trinket or two for them flatlander tourists that come by once an a while…

  • Anonymous

    And Polstein is going to hand you a job paying more than 8.50 an hour— get real

  • Anonymous

    Too funny!!!!  Yes those are great for contacting ET on those cloudness nights in the Katahadin region….

  • Anonymous

    Too funny!!!!  Yes those are great for contacting ET on those cloudness nights in the Katahadin region….

  • Anonymous

    Too funny!!!!  Yes those are great for contacting ET on those cloudness nights in the Katahadin region….

  • Anonymous

    So personal and so bitter……..sounds like a personal agenda, not looking out for the town and region.  Thankfully, your little “group” will not ultimately determine this.

  • Anonymous

    So personal and so bitter……..sounds like a personal agenda, not looking out for the town and region.  Thankfully, your little “group” will not ultimately determine this.

  • Anonymous

    So personal and so bitter……..sounds like a personal agenda, not looking out for the town and region.  Thankfully, your little “group” will not ultimately determine this.

  • Anonymous

    So personal and so bitter……..sounds like a personal agenda, not looking out for the town and region.  Thankfully, your little “group” will not ultimately determine this.

  • Anonymous

    So personal and so bitter……..sounds like a personal agenda, not looking out for the town and region.  Thankfully, your little “group” will not ultimately determine this.

  • Anonymous

    So personal and so bitter……..sounds like a personal agenda, not looking out for the town and region.  Thankfully, your little “group” will not ultimately determine this.

  • Anonymous

    So personal and so bitter……..sounds like a personal agenda, not looking out for the town and region.  Thankfully, your little “group” will not ultimately determine this.

  • Anonymous

    You have a say in this as ONE VOTER…….how do you like those apples?

  • Anonymous

    You have a say in this as ONE VOTER…….how do you like those apples?

  • Anonymous

    You have a say in this as ONE VOTER…….how do you like those apples?

  • Anonymous

    You have a say in this as ONE VOTER…….how do you like those apples?

  • Anonymous

    You have a say in this as ONE VOTER…….how do you like those apples?

  • Anonymous

    You have a say in this as ONE VOTER…….how do you like those apples?

  • Anonymous

    You have a say in this as ONE VOTER…….how do you like those apples?

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    no kidding Katahdin is already in a park. This proposed national park will
    touch Baxter State Park and bring additional people into the area, whom will
    certainly explore BSP

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    So stop flapping your gums
    about and put it to a vote, or do you not have balls to go up to the podium and
    speak your mind…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen.

  • Anonymous

    Amen medwayone….

  • Anonymous

    Um, what is the opposite of writing letters? Stealing them? Erasing them? What?

  • Anonymous

    I know that I’d post my land if I owned some up there………just to PO the entitlement crowd.

  • Anonymous

    Someone que the X-files music QUICK….

  • Anonymous

    Well, we have stopped forest fires from naturally occuring, Clear cuts simulate that effect and stimulate the economy, what is the harm?

  • Anonymous

    I have and I will continue to do so.  Jonathan,  the Mills are dead.  The world is changing around you.

  • Anonymous

    And we are suppose to believe a liberal lackey

  • Anonymous

    Would that “paradise” be the rotting mill, the local jobless teens hanging out in the parking lots, or the local bar scene???

  • Anonymous

    Dear Ms Quimby;

    Please don’t get on your knees to the people of Millinocket. They can’t and won’t help at all at the end of the day when all of Maine will decide whether on not we want a park.

    You are being betrayed by Conlogue, Clark and others who are setting a trap for you and at their July 28 meeting, they will side with the deceitful Kevin Ray and formally and publicly oppose you, while many good citizens of Millinocket will agree with you but are too afraid to come out publicly in support of a park.

    Please do not give them another 70,000 acres that you reportedly offered on your first visit. They will take your gift and ridicule you even more. None of those so-called leaders can be trusted.

    Focus your attention and energy on gaining the backing of the entire state. We are not all of the Millinocket mindset. Anyone who is fair and objective  will not oppose a study to determine IF a park is a good thing for Maine.

    Please don’t give up hope after they dispense with you and your vision. You have more supporters than you know.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, there’s probably enough stuff up there to support at least what…….60 or 70 jobs???

  • Anonymous

    And yet LePage is smarter than you…

  • Anonymous

    Or people are just getting smarter? (at least some)

    The others just want to keep sucking Millinocket dry while the rest of the town dies.

  • Anonymous

    Back at ya!

  • Anonymous

    Amen make the City of Portland the center of the new park, with all the tree hugging Liberals down in that area.  The folks in Southern Maine have been controlling the agenda of the state for years look how far this state has fallen with the views being in charge.

  • Anonymous

    No.

  • Tax All Liberals

    1. It’s not your land
    2. She is going to give it to the government in any event.
    3. State government is a whole lot closer to the people than the Federal government
    4. Once the Federal government gets their hands on it, you lose any say whatsoever in how the land is managed.

    It has nothing to do with conservative vs. liberal.

  • Anonymous

    JULY 23rd?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Is Baxter going to save Millinocket? If not, why do you think an accompanying Federal park would do anything?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Is Baxter going to save Millinocket? If not, why do you think an accompanying Federal park would do anything?

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Anonymous

    So am I.  And I wasn’t the one with the long rant.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Tax All Liberals

    By all means, help us poor ignorants out with your grand explanation of how a Federal park will do what the State park isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    Growl……knash knash……..hum-bug.

  • Anonymous

    ayuh. U got 2 kinds there, big corn fed girls and skinny smokers.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe they will come to watch the mill rot?

  • Tax All Liberals

    What Maine industries have Republicans driven overseas?

  • Tax All Liberals

    What Maine industries have Republicans driven overseas?

  • Anonymous

    But yet, they still keep more people employed than the paper mill…….no?

  • Anonymous

    But yet, they still keep more people employed than the paper mill…….no?

  • Anonymous

    But yet, they still keep more people employed than the paper mill…….no?

  • Anonymous

    But yet, they still keep more people employed than the paper mill…….no?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Why is it that the Baxter lifejacket isn’t working for them?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Why is it that the Baxter lifejacket isn’t working for them?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Why is it that the Baxter lifejacket isn’t working for them?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Why is it that the Baxter lifejacket isn’t working for them?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Why is it that the Baxter lifejacket isn’t working for them?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Why is it that the Baxter lifejacket isn’t working for them?

  • Anonymous

    Good.

  • Anonymous

    Good.

  • Anonymous

    Good.

  • Anonymous

    Good.

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    And another major point is…….what do we do with an empty, run-down ghostown…….bulldoze it???

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty arrogant thinking that Millinocket will determine the outcome. You’ll only add your voices to the Kevin Ray led Maine Legislature for a resolution opposing a park which was rammed down the throats of a bunch of representatives who were tired, not paying attention, and wanting to go home. All of that without allowing for public input. That’s hardly representative government!

    I really doubt that the little northwoods mafia of Conlogue, Clark, the insane Jimmy Busque, the makeup-the-facts John Davis, and others represent what the people of Millinocket feel. It would be very interesting if it were put to a referendum of the town when everyone’s vote was secret.

    But at the end of the day, it won’t matter anyway because it ultimately will be up to all of us.

  • Anonymous

    Stop drinking the Fox News kool-aid!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I will…….definitely not to YOU though!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t have to read it.

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    What’s “cBS”?

  • Anonymous

    Jeff I went to College in Aroostook and live in MDI. You don’t get out much do you. I can walk to my mailbox and show you plates from All 48 States on a weekend.

  • Anonymous

    Jeff I went to College in Aroostook and live in MDI. You don’t get out much do you. I can walk to my mailbox and show you plates from All 48 States on a weekend.

  • Anonymous

    Jeff I went to College in Aroostook and live in MDI. You don’t get out much do you. I can walk to my mailbox and show you plates from All 48 States on a weekend.

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    A casino?

  • Anonymous

    The article said July 28 is when the council will resolve the issue. Everyone will be quite polite when Ms Quimby presents the economic benefits of a park on July 18th as they were when she first met with them. She doesn’t have a chance with that council and Conlogue. The council decided long ago.

  • Anonymous

    I make my own Kool aid and its loaded with REAL sugar.

  • Anonymous

    liked

  • Anonymous

    liked

  • Anonymous

    Thankfully the “little group”
    is the majority of the town, and it was Senator Collins that said that it would
    ultimately come down to what area residents want..!

     

    As far as the “feasibility
    study”—- I wonder what neutral party will get to do this taxpayer funded study…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Thankfully the “little group”
    is the majority of the town, and it was Senator Collins that said that it would
    ultimately come down to what area residents want..!

     

    As far as the “feasibility
    study”—- I wonder what neutral party will get to do this taxpayer funded study…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Thankfully the “little group”
    is the majority of the town, and it was Senator Collins that said that it would
    ultimately come down to what area residents want..!

     

    As far as the “feasibility
    study”—- I wonder what neutral party will get to do this taxpayer funded study…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Thankfully the “little group”
    is the majority of the town, and it was Senator Collins that said that it would
    ultimately come down to what area residents want..!

     

    As far as the “feasibility
    study”—- I wonder what neutral party will get to do this taxpayer funded study…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    How is that working for you?

  • Anonymous

    The season is four season long.

  • Anonymous

    Not just “area” residents……..ALL Maine residents.  This is bigger than YOU!

  • Anonymous

    So you are saying………just let Millinocket die??????  Answer the damn question!

  • Anonymous

    So you are saying………just let Millinocket die??????  Answer the damn question!

  • Anonymous

    LOL…….yeah……..right.

  • Anonymous

    See Acadia visitorship vs. any other state park on the coast.  I really shouldn’t waste my breath on you though.  So, what is your BIG IDEA for Millinocket and the mill??????

  • Anonymous

    LOL…….are you serious???

    Paper
    Textiles
    Shoes

    Probably not much else since Maine never really had much else.

  • Anonymous

    Thank You for opening up my
    vote in Southern Maine….

     

    So you’re saying I now have a
    vote in what Southern Maine does with its wetlands, shore areas, lobstering and
    fishing…?

     

    You must have some real pull
    to “grant me” the ability to have a say in what happens in their backyard.

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Are saying I now have a vote in what Southern Maine does with its wetlands, shore areas, lobstering and fishing…?

  • Anonymous

    This plan does not lock up 3.2 million acres of land, only 70,000… that leaves  3.13 million acres accessible to the timber industry, plus the 30,000 acres set aside for hunters and fishermen and all to use. Read the article.

  • Anonymous

    And when it fails to gain public support, will the initiative be done and over with…?

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    True. If you looked at many western areas at the turn of the last century, you would  have found many towns whose sole purpose was to support various mines. From gold to silver, and many others. Once the mines were depleted the towns dried up. No need to be there if no industry is present. It sucks for sure, but the mills time has  passed.
    And a 9.00 dollar an hour job is better than a 0.00 dollar job.

  • Anonymous

    So why weren’t these three comments censored? Please….BDN

  • Anonymous

    Wellwritten post. Ever notice that people always want to have total say over their own property, unless the land belongs to someone else. Like it or not, the land does belong to quimby and she can do with it whatever she wants. Isn’t that the conservative way of thinking?  I own a small itty bitty 3 acres with my house. I don’t think that I own much but I am sure that there are many in Maine who  have a postage stamp lawn and think that I have alot of land that is going to waste. I would not like someone using my land without my permision either.

  • Anonymous

    Well, yes I am. That would be a radical idea wouldn’t it? That we could act like and be ONE Maine!

  • Anonymous

    You and others like you want to see her land seized. It’s ridiculous. Even if she kept it as private, people are still complaining that they can’t hunt on it and use it as thought it is public. For some reason you feel entitled to it. It’s not my land? Of course it isn’t, but it’s not yours either. It’d be very interesting to see the tables turned and see your response to the public trying to dictate how your land ought to be used.

  • Anonymous

    Suggestions for increasing the average income of area residents would be appreciated. As it stands right now, many people will be making 0.00 dollars an hour.

  • Anonymous

    Suggestions for increasing the average income of area residents would be appreciated. As it stands right now, many people will be making 0.00 dollars an hour.

  • Anonymous

    Suggestions for increasing the average income of area residents would be appreciated. As it stands right now, many people will be making 0.00 dollars an hour.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMOQ5PNHSH4KE4VBJRAF2DAOTQ Grizz

    Excellent view point and may I add my own two cents. I have been a Maine Master guide now for over 40 years and have guided all over Maine. Many of us guides are very thankful for land that is owned by others who pay taxes and abide by Maine laws and give us the opportunity to bring our clients and have access to fishing, hunting and snowmobiling. These landowners don’t have to give residents and non-residents access but they do and we should be greatfull….instead of trying to tell them what they can do and not do with their land….Maine is in enough turmoil with its troubling ecconomy etc. What is wrong with having a State Park that our Grand children and great grandchildren will be able to enjoy than forcing a land owner to close their land off for all. We have enough posted land in Maine. For those who feel that this acreage is going to hurt an already decaying industry….not so. Look at the northern and southern coffiers of Baxter State Park. Well managed for timber but yet they allow some great spots to deer hunt and grouse hunt along with fishing. For those of us who try to make a living off the grace of Maine’s landowners we are truly greatful.    

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMOQ5PNHSH4KE4VBJRAF2DAOTQ Grizz

    Excellent view point and may I add my own two cents. I have been a Maine Master guide now for over 40 years and have guided all over Maine. Many of us guides are very thankful for land that is owned by others who pay taxes and abide by Maine laws and give us the opportunity to bring our clients and have access to fishing, hunting and snowmobiling. These landowners don’t have to give residents and non-residents access but they do and we should be greatfull….instead of trying to tell them what they can do and not do with their land….Maine is in enough turmoil with its troubling ecconomy etc. What is wrong with having a State Park that our Grand children and great grandchildren will be able to enjoy than forcing a land owner to close their land off for all. We have enough posted land in Maine. For those who feel that this acreage is going to hurt an already decaying industry….not so. Look at the northern and southern coffiers of Baxter State Park. Well managed for timber but yet they allow some great spots to deer hunt and grouse hunt along with fishing. For those of us who try to make a living off the grace of Maine’s landowners we are truly greatful.    

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMOQ5PNHSH4KE4VBJRAF2DAOTQ Grizz

    Excellent view point and may I add my own two cents. I have been a Maine Master guide now for over 40 years and have guided all over Maine. Many of us guides are very thankful for land that is owned by others who pay taxes and abide by Maine laws and give us the opportunity to bring our clients and have access to fishing, hunting and snowmobiling. These landowners don’t have to give residents and non-residents access but they do and we should be greatfull….instead of trying to tell them what they can do and not do with their land….Maine is in enough turmoil with its troubling ecconomy etc. What is wrong with having a State Park that our Grand children and great grandchildren will be able to enjoy than forcing a land owner to close their land off for all. We have enough posted land in Maine. For those who feel that this acreage is going to hurt an already decaying industry….not so. Look at the northern and southern coffiers of Baxter State Park. Well managed for timber but yet they allow some great spots to deer hunt and grouse hunt along with fishing. For those of us who try to make a living off the grace of Maine’s landowners we are truly greatful.    

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMOQ5PNHSH4KE4VBJRAF2DAOTQ Grizz

    Excellent view point and may I add my own two cents. I have been a Maine Master guide now for over 40 years and have guided all over Maine. Many of us guides are very thankful for land that is owned by others who pay taxes and abide by Maine laws and give us the opportunity to bring our clients and have access to fishing, hunting and snowmobiling. These landowners don’t have to give residents and non-residents access but they do and we should be greatfull….instead of trying to tell them what they can do and not do with their land….Maine is in enough turmoil with its troubling ecconomy etc. What is wrong with having a State Park that our Grand children and great grandchildren will be able to enjoy than forcing a land owner to close their land off for all. We have enough posted land in Maine. For those who feel that this acreage is going to hurt an already decaying industry….not so. Look at the northern and southern coffiers of Baxter State Park. Well managed for timber but yet they allow some great spots to deer hunt and grouse hunt along with fishing. For those of us who try to make a living off the grace of Maine’s landowners we are truly greatful.    

  • me in me

    Really, can’t spell Millinocket??

  • me in me

    Really, can’t spell Millinocket??

  • me in me

    Really, can’t spell Millinocket??

  • me in me

    Really, can’t spell Millinocket??

  • Anonymous

    Well until you get it passed so I can vote in Southern Maine, the only vote being discussed is for Millinocket.

    More importantly, Augusta has “already” passed a resolution opposing this liberal landmark.

  • me in me

    Yeah, she’ll probably sell it back to Maine ( and the current  governing body would think its a good deal and BUY IT!!!!)

  • Anonymous

    Penobscot….well said. I think most of us who were born here, and most who moved here because….(Imagine that! People want to live here  and start businesses here!) would agree that our state is unique and the quality of life is unmatched anywhere. I can’t understand how and why “a tourist economy” is a bad thing. Maine – our natural resources and border to border beauty – is the most valuable asset we have…and that includes whatever might be left of the timber industry.

    Anyone who thinks tourist industry jobs needs to get over to Bar Harbor. Sure, some people are waiters (making more than a millworker and logger on tips alone) and others work in retail. But, if you think it is just rich people from away who own the construction companies, the shops, the B&Bs, the restaurants, the car dealerships, the gas stations, the guiding businesses, etc etc you need to get real. People of the North Woods….that could be YOU!

  • Tax All Liberals

    Save your breath if your reply is that Millinocket is going to be the next Bar Harbor. You didn’t answer the inquiry. What is the Federal park going to do that Baxter is not doing?

  • Anonymous

    That’s exactly why we should not have a national park.  Giving the national government more control over Maine’s pristine resources WILL be assaulted in very little time, as history proves.

  • Tax All Liberals

    Pay attention librul. She is giving the land to the government. My contention is with which government should have control of it.

  • Tax All Liberals

    Pay attention librul. She is giving the land to the government. My contention is with which government should have control of it.

  • me in me

     The loss of the paper mills doesn’t automatically make the towns  ghost towns.People have traveled outside Millinocket to go to work for years and now more will have to do that. How many people would be able to buy or rent another dwelling, who would buy the houses for sale.? any helpful suggestions from those of you who know it all?

  • Anonymous

    Spearheaded by the greediest most self-interested person to ever step foot in Guilford, Maine.

  • Tax All Liberals

    I have already beaten you senseless with sound logic. Answer your own damn question.

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    no, that would be the plants and animals, and overall lack of people

  • Anonymous

    FYI I can’t afford to retire either!

    The only vote being discussed is not Millinocket. Independent poll after poll indicate that state-wide more than 75% favor a national park! In the end, ALL of us will have a say in this.

    Read my post about how Kevin Ray and “Augusta” passed that anti-park resolution. Underhanded, deceitful, and certainly NOT representative of anyone since they never held a public hearing to allow for public input. You like that kind of representative government? I don’t.

    To say I believe in a better government that was really representative of all of us, yes I do. The fact that we don’t have it is a sad commentary on how little attention we pay to what is going on. We care more about the Sox, Bruins, and Patriots than we do about social and economic issues.

  • Anonymous

    FYI I can’t afford to retire either!

    The only vote being discussed is not Millinocket. Independent poll after poll indicate that state-wide more than 75% favor a national park! In the end, ALL of us will have a say in this.

    Read my post about how Kevin Ray and “Augusta” passed that anti-park resolution. Underhanded, deceitful, and certainly NOT representative of anyone since they never held a public hearing to allow for public input. You like that kind of representative government? I don’t.

    To say I believe in a better government that was really representative of all of us, yes I do. The fact that we don’t have it is a sad commentary on how little attention we pay to what is going on. We care more about the Sox, Bruins, and Patriots than we do about social and economic issues.

  • Anonymous

    FYI I can’t afford to retire either!

    The only vote being discussed is not Millinocket. Independent poll after poll indicate that state-wide more than 75% favor a national park! In the end, ALL of us will have a say in this.

    Read my post about how Kevin Ray and “Augusta” passed that anti-park resolution. Underhanded, deceitful, and certainly NOT representative of anyone since they never held a public hearing to allow for public input. You like that kind of representative government? I don’t.

    To say I believe in a better government that was really representative of all of us, yes I do. The fact that we don’t have it is a sad commentary on how little attention we pay to what is going on. We care more about the Sox, Bruins, and Patriots than we do about social and economic issues.

  • Anonymous

    FYI I can’t afford to retire either!

    The only vote being discussed is not Millinocket. Independent poll after poll indicate that state-wide more than 75% favor a national park! In the end, ALL of us will have a say in this.

    Read my post about how Kevin Ray and “Augusta” passed that anti-park resolution. Underhanded, deceitful, and certainly NOT representative of anyone since they never held a public hearing to allow for public input. You like that kind of representative government? I don’t.

    To say I believe in a better government that was really representative of all of us, yes I do. The fact that we don’t have it is a sad commentary on how little attention we pay to what is going on. We care more about the Sox, Bruins, and Patriots than we do about social and economic issues.

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

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  • Tax All Liberals

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  • Tax All Liberals

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  • Tax All Liberals

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  • Tax All Liberals

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  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

    Who were the Republicans that killed off the paper industry in Maine? Shoes? Textiles? Name the Republicans especially since the paper industry has been in decline across Northeast US and Canada for the last 20 years

  • Tax All Liberals

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  • Anonymous

    Being from Maine I would know of Millinocket. it was an unnecessary question from my viewpoint. sorry if you got bruised by the talk too much statement. don’t take it seriously.

  • Anonymous

    to quote you, do you read?

  • Anonymous

    I’m not saying it should die but there are other options and the people in the area had better take a good hard look before jumping into another National Park we don’t need for a bunch of low paying jobs. Get your town to start courting other industry. Where’s the innovative spirit America was built on? It shouldn’t be an either or as there are plenty of options if you open your eyes and look.

  • Anonymous

    Like I said, until I get a say
    in Southern Maine, this is a Millinocket thing.

     

    Secondly, there “are” a lot of
    area residents that would be directly affected by this, some of them you’d have
    to cut off their access or remove them through eminent domain.

     

    And,,,,, who is going to pay
    for the feasibility study,,,, and who is going to do it..?

    Also, who is going to pay for
    the constant upkeep, as well as the issue of land use…?

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Your right it wasn’t open for business so she choose to leave. That was her choice. The flip side is L.L. Bean didn’t leave and she didn’t have to except for her own greed.

  • Anonymous

    Have been paying any attention whatsoever to the current state of National Parks in America?

  • Anonymous

    Are you all blind?  Tourists come to Maine in the Summer.  It is a short tourist season in Maine.  If you want to talk about jobs, talk about jobs.  This has nothing to do with jobs.  “Jobs” come when a community gets together and makes something together and sells it together.  Not when the owner, the sole decider, moves everything to North Carolina or Mexico or China making millions while the people of Guilford and Dexter and Millinocket get fired.

  • Anonymous

    Learn your history because it has been the Dems that have been in power for the last 30+ years when all those jobs were sent overseas.

  • Anonymous

    True, although you are forgetting the Democratic politicians and their corporate allies that have driven jobs to cheap labor countries???

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree with you about Acadia and Bar Harbor at all.   I  don’t think the local business people would either. Acadia brings in so very many people to the area, in fact- the whole State. 
    I for one, (and yes- it is a State vote , not just a local- )would vote for the Park. We may not like to admit it, but we are a tourist State, and we need everything they bring to all businesses.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree with you about Acadia and Bar Harbor at all.   I  don’t think the local business people would either. Acadia brings in so very many people to the area, in fact- the whole State. 
    I for one, (and yes- it is a State vote , not just a local- )would vote for the Park. We may not like to admit it, but we are a tourist State, and we need everything they bring to all businesses.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Numerically, not geographically.

  • Anonymous

    Stop! The woman was dirt poor, made something unique that no one here thought much of. She found the mid-Atlantic coast a business friendly environment and after years made her fortune. And, she isn’t giving anything back to NC, but to Maine and not just her land, but to her many other philanthropic interests. Greed? I’d call that gratitude and very, very unselfish!

    Strange how you understand or interpret greed.

    What this woman has done and continues to do is nothing short of remarkable. And if those naysayers in Millinocket would accept her offer to help diversity their economy, they might just have a chance at new life and renewed hope.

    You know, comments like yours and the many others opposing Roxanne are blind, bigoted,  hateful, and quite possibly jealous.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    mainejff…. we both know that Millinocket is in a death spiral….they continue to rearrange the deck chairs while their ship is sinking. It’s amazing how often the “Titanic effect” is played out across this land. Instead of manning the life boats, Conlogue and Clark are playing the same old song and they will go down with the ship.

  • Anonymous

    QuestionLife……

    So, do you have any suggestions for the poor folks in Millinocket about what kind of industry they might court? I don’t, they don’t, LePage doesn’t have a clue. And the sad fact is, any new industry will not find workers with the skills required to fill their workforce. They will also find the cost of energy prohibitive, and the road to the marketplace has always been a major problem for our state since colonial times.

    You and everyone else commenting here need to get real and recognize that the only thing we have to sell, the only asset on the shelf or in the barn we have that is of value to anyone is what is so unique and special: our natural resources. Heaven help us if we compromise any of it again to fuel someone’s  greed and profit making. Read paper companies, Brookfield, and all of those investors in wind power.

  • Anonymous

    You call that logic? LoL

  • Anonymous

    Charlesanson…there have been Native Peoples around the area from the beginning.  The settlement of the town and building of the mill did not constitute the only population of the region.

  • Anonymous

    OOOO snappy comeback mainejeff

  • Anonymous

    Funny, the Saint John Valley seems to get tourists year-round.

  • Tax All Liberals

    Step up to the plate, libber, and explain what a Federal park is going to do that Baxter is not already doing.

  • Anonymous

    Would someone please think about Acadia?  That area is booming!  There is real opportunity for the Katahdin region to become something similar without losing its identity or charachter.  Seriously, people, it’s time to open your minds just a little.  The mills are never going to be what they once were.  It’s high time to diversify that economy.  You can have both a successful manufacturing base (assuming the mills are ever bought) and a National Park, and all the secondary businesses that would be created because of  it. 

  • Anonymous

    Let’s compare this 70k acres to Acadia. Acadia has a mountain, hiking trails, biking trails and beaches. Quimby land has………………trees. Hmmm, which one would I go to?

  • Anonymous

    my point is that this could be good for the maine paper industry……..

  • Anonymous

    Exactly.  Well said.  Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    Well, sir, Baxter is just another “state park.” The national park brand is a proven magnet and an enormous marketing asset. The National Park Service does an outstanding job of marketing all of the parks. It is the regional, national, and international power and attraction of a national park that no state park can enjoy.

    Second, it is a FACT that the gateway communities to our national parks are all prospering. That cannot be said for state parks. National parks draw millions of visitors a year who leave hundreds of millions of dollars in the local economy.

    You use the term “Federal” and I think you use it in a pejorative way. The “Feds” do not take over, impose their rule on local communities, or cost us more in taxes. On the contrary, the facts will prove that the Park Service works hand-in-hand with the local communities to ensure that they are involved and that the local communities do not suffer. Each national park reflects the character, history, and heritage of their communities.

    The potential gateway communities of Jackman, Greenville, Millinocket, Medway, and others will all be involved and will all benefit. Many of those commenting here, and several on the Millinocket Town Council are making claims they simply cannot support with facts.

    If you are open-minded, why not visit the National Park Service website, or here in Maine, http://www.restore.org, and http://www.mainewoods.org You will find all of the facts and information you will need. If, after you do your research, you still oppose a park, you can at least get your facts straight.

  • Anonymous

    Well, sir, Baxter is just another “state park.” The national park brand is a proven magnet and an enormous marketing asset. The National Park Service does an outstanding job of marketing all of the parks. It is the regional, national, and international power and attraction of a national park that no state park can enjoy.

    Second, it is a FACT that the gateway communities to our national parks are all prospering. That cannot be said for state parks. National parks draw millions of visitors a year who leave hundreds of millions of dollars in the local economy.

    You use the term “Federal” and I think you use it in a pejorative way. The “Feds” do not take over, impose their rule on local communities, or cost us more in taxes. On the contrary, the facts will prove that the Park Service works hand-in-hand with the local communities to ensure that they are involved and that the local communities do not suffer. Each national park reflects the character, history, and heritage of their communities.

    The potential gateway communities of Jackman, Greenville, Millinocket, Medway, and others will all be involved and will all benefit. Many of those commenting here, and several on the Millinocket Town Council are making claims they simply cannot support with facts.

    If you are open-minded, why not visit the National Park Service website, or here in Maine, http://www.restore.org, and http://www.mainewoods.org You will find all of the facts and information you will need. If, after you do your research, you still oppose a park, you can at least get your facts straight.

  • Anonymous

    That is the problem.  Some people like to share and others do not.  In many areas in Maine the land was shared.  Since land has been bought, more recently, by private owners who love the beauty of Maine it has been chopped up or put so high up on a pedestal people cannot use or enjoy the land as mother nature intended.  People have become more and more restricted and unable to use and enjoy the land and natural beauty, and now it is left to only those few with money and control.  It costs money to go to a park and enjoy the park, and maintain the park.  The forests used to be free to use, and maintained by all who labored.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jaime-Young-Renaud/1764626085 Jaime Young Renaud

    you’ve got to be kidding!!

  • Anonymous

    It’s her land, she can have it her way : )

  • Tax All Liberals

    I’ve already been to the site and done my homework. You haven’t cited anything that I’ve erred with. National Parks only succeed and fuel economic growth if there is a natural draw that people are willing to travel to, particularly when the area is isolated. That case has not been made for this proposal. This is just more woods tacked onto an already enormous State park. The only designation this could reasonably be used for is wilderness area or national forest. None of these scenarios will “rescue” the region.

    The only thing that fuels economic growth is private enterprize

  • Anonymous

    I usually don’t reply to people with so little brain capacity that all they can contibute to a discussion is to point out someone else’s typo, but in your case I’ll make an excpetion!

  • Anonymous

    LOL……….that’s rich, but true

  • Anonymous

    Keyword….BUYING

  • Anonymous

    Beg to differ, but private enterprise is all about greed. Open your eyes, man. Do you see any of the great paper companies, or Brookfield giving a damn? How about Wall Street, the oil companies, and the health insurance companies? Right, tell me about private enterprise.

    FDR put millions of out-of-work Americans to work building parks, roads, bridges, railroads, public works projects, etc. It was the United States Government that created the jobs and brought us all out of the Great Depression. And, it has been the United States Government that has been providing the safety net for millions of people just like the good people of Millinocket who are now on welfare – the public dollar. Private enterprise doesn’t give a damn about people. It cares about profit.

    Your basic argument that people would not be willing to travel to Maine’s North Woods is not based on fact. The same argument was made against most of our country’s great national parks including Yellowstone, the Tetons, and Yosemite. The millions and millions of people who visit our national parks each year are proof that our special protected national parks are not only treasured and appreciated, but places they can visit to recreate and renew. If the proposition of a park is so bad, why is it that park visitations are rising each and every year?

    The natural draw is right here. Maine is unequaled in the continental United States for its unmatched beauty and wildness. With an incomparable coast, thousands of pristine lakes and ponds, clean rivers and clean air, our mountains and our farmlands, and our many quaint cities and towns, and really good and honest people, Maine has what everyone else wishes they had. That’s why they will come. All we have to do is be proud of it and who we are, promote the heck out of it, and not let anyone else screw it up and ruin it ever again.

    Enjoy your life man. I wish you happiness and peace.

  • Anonymous

    too many in the works — if they all get built the market will be saturated,  that is the last thing we need — every little town on hard times building a big casino.

  • Anonymous

    how about the next Bozeman Montana?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think anyone is saying a National Park is the end-all be-all for economic development in the region, but it is a first piece in the puzzle of diversifying and stabilizing the economy

  • Anonymous

    parks like Yellowstone have areas with paved roads, visitor’s centers, and awful RV traffic.  But they have huge tracts of unspoiled back-country where you can go and not see any other people for days

  • Anonymous

    You been there lately? The town is immaculate and busy as heck, and the park is just awesome. What part are they not taking care of?

  • Anonymous

    You been there lately? The town is immaculate and busy as heck, and the park is just awesome. What part are they not taking care of?

  • Tax All Liberals

    Another socialist wants a grab. figures.

  • Anonymous

    Yes I live on MDI….What town are you talking about??  Bar Harbor??  Sure, that part of the park is well taken care of but come on over to the Pretty Marsh/Round Pond area (Near Tremont/Mt Desert town line).  Looks like a tornado went through there and it has been like that for years now. It is a huge fire hazard  They have also let all the big fields on the Seal Cove Road get over grown with trees.  No places for the deer to feed, so they eat in your gardens and eat on the side of the road and cause a lot of accidents as no one can hunt on MDI.  We are over run with deer… How about letting the area people take care of the blow downs and use them for heat this Winter.   I also refuse to pay the $40 fee to drive on the park.  And yes, the park borders my property, they seem to take more land from owners every year.  It’s not a win/win situation.  It also really hurts the local people who makes up for the tax burdens, the parks create

  • Anonymous

    northerson;

    The U.S. Park Service is nowhere as large as most other bloated agencies, and they have done a damn good job in protecting and managing the parks. So what if Santa Claus runs the concessions? They’ll provide jobs for some who need that kind of work.

    You claim that many contractors will come from out of state is bogus and conjecture. Tell you what. The architects, engineers, and builders of the Plum Creek resort for the rich will ALL come from out of state. They’ll hire locals to clean, cut grass and landscape, and plow their mile-long driveways. The Park Service uses local contractors and work closely with the local communities.

    Get a grip with your new federal police force. The upside to that is Maine and the local communities won’t be providing it.

    Expensive admission fees? Let’s see….tickets to the Red Sox, Bruins, Patriots, and Celtics are well out of reach for most people here in Maine….and that’s just ONE game. It will cost several hundred dollars to attend one game with family when you consider the cost of tickets, parking, travel down and back, and food. Even a trip to the movies will cost a family more than getting into a national park. The Parks are the best deal going.

    Your comments are part of the histrionics being stirred up by the Millinocket Town Council and others up there who are in denial and won’t listen to reason. Their minds are already made up based on misinformation, wild exaggerations, and a lack of truthfulness.  Conspiracy theory? Right!

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Darn tree hugger. Who does she think she is doing whatever she wants to do with her own property- that she earned as a business person. The nerve of some people.

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Darn tree hugger. Who does she think she is doing whatever she wants to do with her own property- that she earned as a business person. The nerve of some people.

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Darn tree hugger. Who does she think she is doing whatever she wants to do with her own property- that she earned as a business person. The nerve of some people.

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Darn tree hugger. Who does she think she is doing whatever she wants to do with her own property- that she earned as a business person. The nerve of some people.

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Darn tree hugger. Who does she think she is doing whatever she wants to do with her own property- that she earned as a business person. The nerve of some people.

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Darn tree hugger. Who does she think she is doing whatever she wants to do with her own property- that she earned as a business person. The nerve of some people.

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    Darn tree hugger. Who does she think she is doing whatever she wants to do with her own property- that she earned as a business person. The nerve of some people.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, littleMama1….meant no disrespect. But, is the Park Service responsible for those areas?

  • Anonymous

     Yes, the property I’m talking about is Acadia National Park Land.  Acadia National Park owns a lot of land on MDI…not just the land in Bar Harbor.  Also have land in Southwest Harbor/Manset/Tremont and Mount Desert.   I really believe that someday they will own most of MDI if not all of it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cecil-Gray/1027119962 Cecil Gray

    Right on Griz.

  • Anonymous

    Your a liar. And you know it yourself. Dobnt speak for the whole town of Millinocket. No one here is afraid to say anything.

  • Anonymous

    Another liar. Trust me when I tell you the people of his own town of Medway thinks this guys a nut.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the people that  blog on here cannot name more the a handfull of National Parks. The rest they havent even heard of before. Reason? Because NO ONE visits the 200 or so others. Waste of taxpayers money. Miss Quimby go back to where you came from your not welcome here.

  • Anonymous

    I’m content with Baxter State
    Park, not Quimby’s Liberal Land

     

    It will remove more jobs than
    it creates-

    The few jobs it will create
    will pay non-livable wages-

    It will remove much access to
    hunters, atv use, snowmobiles, horses and logging-

    It has been proven that this
    will become an ongoing cost on the backs of the taxpayers-

     

    Even liberal actor Sam
    Waterston is rallying for additional money to keep what we have from crumbling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    We just can’t afford another
    National Park

     

    Lastly, it already has become
    an election issue.

     

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Liar? Ouch! I’m not. You are right though. I don’t speak for the whole town of Millinocket. So, if no one is afraid, why are not more people speaking up? The only thing us “outsiders” are hearing are the naysayers and a few business people who support the idea. All of the reports we get are about Conlogue, Clark, Davis, Busque and Cyr claiming to speak for the people. As I posted earlier, I’d like to see a referendum with a secret ballot.

    I’m wondering…do you feel that you and the townspeople are being represented by your council? I’d love to know.

  • Anonymous

    Thank God

  • Anonymous

    The majority of people that went to that meeting were against a National Park..!

  • Diogenes

    Don’t be a sap, Joe. Nobody is tearing down towns in the woods near Millinocket.  Jeez, chill out or get some Valium.  You’re halfway to a full-blown panic attack.

  • Diogenes

    Nothing seems to be exactly where Millinocket is headed.

  • poormaniac

    You are absolutely correct , she should keep it and do with it what she wants. We don’t need another national park !

  • poormaniac

    You are absolutely correct , she should keep it and do with it what she wants. We don’t need another national park !

  • poormaniac

    You are absolutely correct , she should keep it and do with it what she wants. We don’t need another national park !

  • poormaniac

    You are absolutely correct , she should keep it and do with it what she wants. We don’t need another national park !

  • Diogenes

    The Baxter lifejacket is working.  But it can’t hold up all the new victims from the sinking S.S. PaperMill. 

  • Anonymous

    You try and feeding two kids on nine bucks an hour.

    And there “are” other industries that are looking at Millinocket for non-wood manufacturing.

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • poormaniac

    Yes , I don’t understand why Roxanne thinks she is entitled to have a park named after her.

  • poormaniac

    Yes , I don’t understand why Roxanne thinks she is entitled to have a park named after her.

  • poormaniac

    Yes , I don’t understand why Roxanne thinks she is entitled to have a park named after her.

  • poormaniac

    Yes , I don’t understand why Roxanne thinks she is entitled to have a park named after her.

  • poormaniac

    Yes , I don’t understand why Roxanne thinks she is entitled to have a park named after her.

  • Anonymous

    Until you give us the right to
    vote in Southern Maine land use,,, It is very much a Millinocket vote…!

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Until you give us the right to
    vote in Southern Maine land use,,, It is very much a Millinocket vote…!

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Until you give us the right to
    vote in Southern Maine land use,,, It is very much a Millinocket vote…!

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Until you give us the right to
    vote in Southern Maine land use,,, It is very much a Millinocket vote…!

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Until you give us the right to
    vote in Southern Maine land use,,, It is very much a Millinocket vote…!

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Give me “nothing” anytime. Just got back from taking the dogs up to Abol. No people, nice breeze, no flies, dogs had a great time swimming and sniffing about, and I just soaked it all in. Give me nothing, that’s all I ask. Came back to my humble abode that cost me very little, said hey to my next door neighbor having a beer on his side porch, BBQ’d some chicken, put my feet up and posted this little message to you. If your goal Diogenes is to find an honest man, this is an honest posting. Life doesn’t get any better than this. Millinocket will survive just fine. Oh, and if you would like to come visit, leave your pretensions at mile 244 of I95, thanks.

  • Anonymous

    To jdevorak and Jeffrey Flash Barnard Jr, there are many of us here in Millinocket who are open to a national park and the potential it could bring to our business community.  Many of us have taken the enormous risk of selling everything and investing it in the main street of this town and still have faith that we made the right decision, although a difficult one.  If the people from here could just take half the risk we have to change and more on, we woudn’t be having this discussion and the news from Millinocket might be more positive.

    Roxanne Quimby is flying in two mayors from gateway communities out west to speak to us at the Pelletier Restaurant on July 18 about the effect of national parks on gateway communities.  If you read the article about which all of these comments are being made, you will read that a resolution by the town council was tabled last night that would have been in opposition to a national park, period.  They tabled it after one councilor reconsidered his vote and decided they should hear more information before rejecting it out of hand.  The resolution by the council to reject the national park will come up again on Thursday, July 28 at the 4:30 council meeting, after the presentation by Ms. Quimby and the mayors.  In other words, they will allow the presentation but there is no feasibility study in the works yet.   This is a tough room.

  • Diogenes

    “My uncle has a doctorate in forestry,”  (He bought it at the green front store) “even he knows you need to cut down trees to make room for new ones.
    Quimby wants to us let all the trees dies, and therefore no new ones
    growing!”

    That explains why there were no trees until men came along to cut them!  Who knew?  Tell your uncle it’s time for another liquor run.

  • Anonymous

    Conlogue and Clark represent the majority of how Millinocket votes- Conservative…!

    Republican or Democrat, it really doesn’t matter, the majority Millinocket is conservative…!

    And unlike you,,,, they have spent their lives dedicated to improving their communities…!

  • Anonymous

    We have, and we are talking to other industries, you’re just seeing the blowback from the liberal let all industry die types…

  • Anonymous

    I’m content with Baxter State Park, not Quimby’s Liberal Land

    It will remove more jobs than it creates-
    The few jobs it will create will pay non-livable wages-

    It will remove much access to hunters, atv use, snowmobiles, horses and logging-

    It has been proven that this will become an ongoing cost on the backs of the taxpayers-

    Even liberal actor Sam Waterston is rallying for additional money to keep what we have from crumbling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    We just can’t afford another National Park

  • Anonymous

    You have no idea what you are talking about. Times change, towns change, people change. However, narrow minded self proclaimed “libbers” can cast stones when they know nothing of the community or it’s people. You and your like minded thinkers are the problem. The people that stick it out here despite current circumstances, are the answer. Such is true in any community, hence the word community. Get on board  or get lost “libber”. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    That’s my point. Not many people are going to hike in the Maine woods in winter with snow on the ground.And without paved roads they probably would not either summer or winter. There are no conveniences like electricity and running hot/cold water. Visitors to Acadia ride to the top of the mountain and have a scenic view of the ocean and surroundings wearing t-shirts and shorts. What Quimby has right now is unspoiled wilderness. To accomodate a million?? or more?? annual visitors (to do what in the woods) who have never experienced the Maine woods will take its toll on what will become an area of time-worn Maine forest the greater the numbers of visitors. And since as a national park designation it will have become a business operated by the federal government with the intention of making a financial profit or at least breaking even the more visitors there are the better chance of making a profit. The more visitors the more demands over time and the less unspoiled the area will become. How much would a national park next door to Baxter state Park effect the number of visitors to the state park simply because it does not have national park status but it is all basically, with the exception,  woods and water. Who is to say that down the road the national park service and/or public demand will not increasingly  put some weight on the state of Maine to incorporate Baxter State Park into what would be a national park.  

  • Anonymous

    That’s my point. Not many people are going to hike in the Maine woods in winter with snow on the ground.And without paved roads they probably would not either summer or winter. There are no conveniences like electricity and running hot/cold water. Visitors to Acadia ride to the top of the mountain and have a scenic view of the ocean and surroundings wearing t-shirts and shorts. What Quimby has right now is unspoiled wilderness. To accomodate a million?? or more?? annual visitors (to do what in the woods) who have never experienced the Maine woods will take its toll on what will become an area of time-worn Maine forest the greater the numbers of visitors. And since as a national park designation it will have become a business operated by the federal government with the intention of making a financial profit or at least breaking even the more visitors there are the better chance of making a profit. The more visitors the more demands over time and the less unspoiled the area will become. How much would a national park next door to Baxter state Park effect the number of visitors to the state park simply because it does not have national park status but it is all basically, with the exception,  woods and water. Who is to say that down the road the national park service and/or public demand will not increasingly  put some weight on the state of Maine to incorporate Baxter State Park into what would be a national park.  

  • Anonymous

    That’s my point. Not many people are going to hike in the Maine woods in winter with snow on the ground.And without paved roads they probably would not either summer or winter. There are no conveniences like electricity and running hot/cold water. Visitors to Acadia ride to the top of the mountain and have a scenic view of the ocean and surroundings wearing t-shirts and shorts. What Quimby has right now is unspoiled wilderness. To accomodate a million?? or more?? annual visitors (to do what in the woods) who have never experienced the Maine woods will take its toll on what will become an area of time-worn Maine forest the greater the numbers of visitors. And since as a national park designation it will have become a business operated by the federal government with the intention of making a financial profit or at least breaking even the more visitors there are the better chance of making a profit. The more visitors the more demands over time and the less unspoiled the area will become. How much would a national park next door to Baxter state Park effect the number of visitors to the state park simply because it does not have national park status but it is all basically, with the exception,  woods and water. Who is to say that down the road the national park service and/or public demand will not increasingly  put some weight on the state of Maine to incorporate Baxter State Park into what would be a national park.  

  • Anonymous

    You are wrong, my friend.  Many of us are in business because of Baxter State Park and Katahdin.

  • Anonymous

    You are wrong, my friend.  Many of us are in business because of Baxter State Park and Katahdin.

  • Anonymous

    Conlogue, Busque, Cyr and Clark represent the majority of how Millinocket votes- Conservative…!

    Republican or Democrat, it really doesn’t matter, the majority of Millinocket is conservative…!

    And unlike you,,,, these men have spent their lives dedicated to improving their communities…!

  • Anonymous

    Conlogue, Busque, Cyr and Clark represent the majority of how Millinocket votes- Conservative…!

    Republican or Democrat, it really doesn’t matter, the majority of Millinocket is conservative…!

    And unlike you,,,, these men have spent their lives dedicated to improving their communities…!

  • Anonymous

    Acadia has been the second most visited national park in the United States several different years in the past…in the United States.

  • Anonymous

    Right! Time will tell…..just wait and see…..Who will turn the lights out?

  • Anonymous

    Right! Time will tell…..just wait and see…..Who will turn the lights out?

  • Anonymous

    You never know…she just might do that…

  • Anonymous

    You never know…she just might do that…

  • Anonymous

    You never know…she just might do that…

  • Anonymous

    You never know…she just might do that…

  • Anonymous

    You never know…she just might do that…

  • Anonymous

    No, no and no……. history proves that national parks a good for the state and people who live nearby. Have you ever been to Acadia or any national park. They draw money to an area both federal dollars and tourist dollars.  Plus all Americans get to enjoy them.  

  • Anonymous

    Not all National parks see a million or more visitors a year, and some people (myself included) want a rustic backcountry experience. Acadia is a small park cross crossed with roads. Not all parks are like that. This certainly would not get the traffic of Acadia but it would be a mice alternative.

    The last thing you should want is for Roxanne to put this under permanent conservation easement without national park or national forest designation — the it really won’t draw more people than BSP

  • Anonymous

    Excellent information!  It is a fact, too, that last year Maine was the number one destination of anyone within nine hour’s driving distance.  That is a circle that would include New York, Boston and Eastern Canada.  That is some of the densest population on the east coast…and they spend.

  • Anonymous

    jj160oz….I do know what I’m talking about…and I agree times change, towns change, and people change. I just hope that the people of Millinocket accept that fact and do something other than hope the damn mills will come back! If you are from Millinocket, I am on your side as as most people in Maine are who care. I do believe that you are the answer, but I question the leadership holding onto the past.

    I’d like to hear just one new idea for saving Millinocket that doesn’t have to do with logging or mill work. Just one. I grew up in a prosperous mill town in the 50′s that made textiles, paper, and shoes. It is all gone now. All gone!

    I watched thousands move away, and almost all of my peers left and didn’t come back. That community and a very few others are well on their way to diversifying their economy and investing in the hidden assets they have always had: their history, their heritage, their culture, the arts, their natural resources. Old mills have been turned into shops, restaurants, office space, and apartments, and they are thriving.

    So, we won’t go away. We hope for the best for all of you, and we just don’t get why a new national park can’t be part of your rising form the ashes. That just doesn’t make any sense to anyone!

  • Anonymous

    Right and they are all going to follow them right over the cliff. Listen, you seem to be so all-knowing. Why not suggest something that Millinocket could do that would help raise them up from the ashes that doesn’t include logging and mill work?

    Do you have any ideas that are positive, innovative, and creative. Doesn’t seem like it.

    You whack away at anything “liberal” and continue to rant about the feds. Well, good luck sir or madam, you certainly are not part of the solution.

  • Anonymous

    On the contrary, Medway is in the catbird seat, right at the entrance of our region from 95.  Don’t underestimate the folks there to capitalize on tourism and more power to them.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t they call that the chair-man?

  • Anonymous

    Don’t they call that the chair-man?

  • Anonymous

    Just ask Dave!

  • Anonymous

    Cant afford, I was at the meeting and I would not say the majority of the people were against it. I think it was the other way around.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you look at what has happened to national parks throughout history at the hands of the Federal Government?  Or if you’re feeling lazy, just look back to what happened under the Cheney administration.  Don’t let Republican talking points fool you into your own wishful thinking.  Peak oil and the greatest depression in American history over the next ten years will put this park in peril.  See manufacturing of cellulose fibers.  Not to mention all national parks, right now, are in danger of shutting down due to lack of funding.

    Lastly, if you’re a treehugger, why are you so concerned about dollars?  An informed treehugger knows that nature and money do not co-exist.

  • Anonymous

    Only trouble is that she needs local support, according to Susan Collins.  But, I know the good people of Millinocket (not speaking about the three bull-headed ones on the bench right now)will listen to the facts and care about their region.  If we make a concerted effort to engage the public up here and get more information, there is that chance.  Many other national parks in the country have taken considerable work and there has been severe local pushback.  This will be a fight but what else can we do?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you OUTSIDERS as yo put it should take the train out of dodge with Miss queenbee. Open your ears son. Plenty of people are against it.

  • Anonymous

    I felt like Bryant Davis, John Raymond, Richard Angotti, Jr. and, in a fit of conscience or humility, Mike Madore, represented the public’s wish for more information.  Bryant David and John Raymond actually listen to the constituents.

  • Anonymous

    You call ripping off old burt admirable?

  • Anonymous

    Another LIE. It’s not a priven magnet at all. You that line from the horses mouth when she spoke here last. Problem is that 80 percent of the National parks lose money every day. So I ask, How the the National park brand a proven magnet when it’s failed in so many other states? Except for a few of the better known national parks you cant even name more then a handful yourself with the help of google. Get your head out of the sand and do a little research. National Parks drain taxpayers of money PERIOD.

  • Anonymous

    Who is paying for the landfill deal to no where to help out poor Millinocket? I think that would be Maine people (south and north)

  • Anonymous

    mainejeff I think it was Mr. Bill Clinton (democrat) who signed NAFTA into law. Your comment holds no water.

  • Anonymous

    How do figure this, the dems have had a hold on Augusta for more than 30yrs. Think before you comment

  • Anonymous

    The likelihood that the feds will ever accept the Quimby land as an NP is somewhere real close to zero.  It’s not worthy of discussion or getting peoples hopes up.  It isn’t going to happen.  This isn’t Acadia.  It just doesn’t rise to NP stature.  The idea is a fantasy.
    If there ever were an NP on the Q land there would be a short term spike in visitors and then it would be very limited.  The numbers wouldn’t begin to match other parks.  The dollars wouldn’t be there.  Look at Columbia Falls MT, or Gardiner both just outside NPs that get a lot a lot of visitors and neither are particularly prosperous. 
    I think the person suggesting Millinocket was the next Bozeman was being facetious but for those who didn’t realize it Bozeman has a university bigger than UMO just for starters.  I could go on and on as to why that won’t happen.
    It may be a long shot but someone is more likely to come up with something to do with forest products than this ever becoming a park.  Better to start thinking about something a lot more realistic and a lot more remunerative.
     

  • Anonymous

    The likelihood that the feds will ever accept the Quimby land as an NP is somewhere real close to zero.  It’s not worthy of discussion or getting peoples hopes up.  It isn’t going to happen.  This isn’t Acadia.  It just doesn’t rise to NP stature.  The idea is a fantasy.
    If there ever were an NP on the Q land there would be a short term spike in visitors and then it would be very limited.  The numbers wouldn’t begin to match other parks.  The dollars wouldn’t be there.  Look at Columbia Falls MT, or Gardiner both just outside NPs that get a lot a lot of visitors and neither are particularly prosperous. 
    I think the person suggesting Millinocket was the next Bozeman was being facetious but for those who didn’t realize it Bozeman has a university bigger than UMO just for starters.  I could go on and on as to why that won’t happen.
    It may be a long shot but someone is more likely to come up with something to do with forest products than this ever becoming a park.  Better to start thinking about something a lot more realistic and a lot more remunerative.
     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Solomon/100001908192040 Joe Solomon

    No I don’t hate living where I live , I’m just saying Bangorian needs to think about both sides of the story, sounds like you do too. Not everyone wants more parks in the northern part of the state, sounds like you don’t want one in Southern Maine, or should I say northern Mass. …LOL 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Solomon/100001908192040 Joe Solomon

    They may not be tearing down towns, but what if they don’t allow anymore woods operations or snowmobiling, hunting, fishing etc, etc, … the list of possibilities is endless, a national park is another  way for the govt to control the people, forcing us all to move to the big cities, ride public transportation , and live like zombies, there you happy , now I’ve gone and had a full blown panic attack…..hehehe

  • Anonymous

    Who are you to say what the “feds” will do. There is actually a great deal of interest on the part of the Park Service and the Department of the Interior, and Obama as well. Do you have a crystal ball. Another naysayer. Keep it up and heap the negativity on the region!

  • Anonymous

    Shortsighted, bigoted, and angry! Get a life!

  • Anonymous

    Right on….no one has yet come up with any other ideas for the region. Just negativity. Gloom and sorrow everywhere…

  • Anonymous

    Just go to either one and basque in the wonder that is Maine. They are both Maine treasures.

  • Anonymous

    Just come up with one positive suggestion for the region angry old man…I assume you are a man. You seem to be full of anger and rage and you keep up that tired old anti-liberal rant. Boring. Enjoy your retirement.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry phantom….but this place belongs to all of us, remember? We are not “outsiders” in the sense we don’t live here, pay taxes here, and hope for a brighter future for all of us.

  • Anonymous

    The “northwoods mafia” dedicated to improving their communities? Right. They’ve really led them to a mighty nice place haven’t they. That’s real leadership. Visionary, innovative, positive, and hopeful. The same inspired leaders still believe the industry will return and are doing nothing to create a diverse economy.

  • Anonymous

    She doesn’t need local support. She needs the support of the people of Maine whom Collins, Snowe, Pingree and Michaud represent. If anything, Roxanne overestimated the need for “local support.” This is about all of us.

  • Anonymous

    Man, just name one…for once. Name one. Give us and them just one new, positive idea about reviving this dying town.

  • Anonymous

    Whoa…even George Smith said it was time to take off the “ban Roxanne”bumper stickers.

  • Anonymous

    She didn’t rip of old Burt. Burt was happy living in his shack in the woods. Do you know that he wasn’t compensated? Zip it unless you know something the rest of us don’t know.

  • Anonymous

    Right on, Bangorian, right on.

  • Anonymous

    Yeh..all 15 of them….

  • Anonymous

    Yeh..all 15 of them….

  • Anonymous

    I agree…I’ve been saying that for years…

  • Anonymous

    too many in the works — if they all get built the market will be saturated, that is the last thing we need — every little town on hard times building a big casino.     
    ****************************************

    It saved Atlantic City, New Jersey.  The Boardwalk was a skankhole before Bally’s, Tropicana, Harrah’s, etc.

  • Anonymous

    too many in the works — if they all get built the market will be saturated, that is the last thing we need — every little town on hard times building a big casino.     
    ****************************************

    It saved Atlantic City, New Jersey.  The Boardwalk was a skankhole before Bally’s, Tropicana, Harrah’s, etc.

  • Anonymous

    too many in the works — if they all get built the market will be saturated, that is the last thing we need — every little town on hard times building a big casino.     
    ****************************************

    It saved Atlantic City, New Jersey.  The Boardwalk was a skankhole before Bally’s, Tropicana, Harrah’s, etc.

  • Anonymous

    too many in the works — if they all get built the market will be saturated, that is the last thing we need — every little town on hard times building a big casino.     
    ****************************************

    It saved Atlantic City, New Jersey.  The Boardwalk was a skankhole before Bally’s, Tropicana, Harrah’s, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Say I agree with you that the parks lose money. What about the communities around the park? The “Gateway” communities prosper. To me it is no different then the state pouring money into the Dolby landfill. Is that going to make the state money? HECK NO! It is going to cost a lot more BUT (supposedly) it is the cost of doing business…..to be ‘attractive’ to the next buyer (if there is one) of the mill….

  • Anonymous

    Say I agree with you that the parks lose money. What about the communities around the park? The “Gateway” communities prosper. To me it is no different then the state pouring money into the Dolby landfill. Is that going to make the state money? HECK NO! It is going to cost a lot more BUT (supposedly) it is the cost of doing business…..to be ‘attractive’ to the next buyer (if there is one) of the mill….

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    As long as it doesn’t end up being the next Gatlinburg, Tennessee (gateway to Great Smoky Mountains National Park).  That place is ghastly.

  • Anonymous

    WWDD

  • Anonymous

    You can’t compare Atlantic city with millinocket. There are a lot more people near Atlantic city, and all the casinos are in one city, not spread all around in the middle of no where. All of these Maine casinos would be hours away from each other, and all are away from any major population center.

  • Anonymous

    And you act like King Sh*t of Turd Island!

  • Anonymous

    He can’t.

  • Anonymous

    You mean unlike YOU?

  • Anonymous

    B.S.!!!  You’re seeing “blowback” from your own Republican Party…….they could actually care less about Millinocket now.  There is no more $$$$$ to line their pockets. ;)

  • Anonymous

    You’ve done NOTHING but talk in circles…….typical of do-nothing Republicans like you.

  • Anonymous

    “Liberal Land”????……you are a NUT!

  • Anonymous

    Another do-nothing Republican that stirs the pot and then just sits back and counts his greenbacks while everyone else suffers.  Typical!!!

  • Anonymous

    As “ghastly” as a rotting Millinocket???

  • Anonymous

    Well, at least plants and animals don’t milk the welfare system!

  • Anonymous

    People from the South don’t vacation in Maine in great numbers…….and THAT IS A FACT!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been to over 40 national parks and they’re great….. the very best of this country………..and the money IS there we’re just wasting it on war …..$10 billion a month in Afghanistan and Iraq. One month’s worth of war and we could  fix everything in our parks for a decade. It’s all about priorities, some people, the Repugs, want to support the military industrial complex, some think we could spend it better. 

    All money starts from nature’s natural resources , where do you think cellulose fiber and oil  come from?????

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Solomon/100001908192040 Joe Solomon

    Katahdin is one of the most remote and alpine-like mountains east of the rockies….. exactly, so when we turn it into a National Park, that is going to change, those rich outa Statas aint gonna wanna walk to the top they gonna wanna ride to the top. and where ever the gateway  town is it will not be a rural town anymore it will be like Bar Harbor or North Conway NH, or some other “town ” thats near a Park, its ownly or I should major money draw is when the park is busy.Maine can’t survive with just tourist dollars and by the same token we can’t survive with just paper mills either…the state needs to diversify, I’m not opposed to a Park I just don’t feel it needs to be as big as Quimby wants it. 

  • Tax All Liberals

    So your solution is to give them another life jacket to keep more of them floating in the water. Brilliant.

  • Anonymous

    The people who owned the mills were not native Mainer’s and what they did was make a moonscape out of the area, spray it, pollute it,  so that only the trees that they want returned. Are you kidding? Did your uncle object to how the Company treated the land? They didn’t exactly cut selectively for the sake of the forest. did they? And what did the forests do without our interference? Die?

  • Anonymous

    The people who owned the mills were not native Mainer’s and what they did was make a moonscape out of the area, spray it, pollute it,  so that only the trees that they want returned. Are you kidding? Did your uncle object to how the Company treated the land? They didn’t exactly cut selectively for the sake of the forest. did they? And what did the forests do without our interference? Die?

  • Anonymous

    The people who owned the mills were not native Mainer’s and what they did was make a moonscape out of the area, spray it, pollute it,  so that only the trees that they want returned. Are you kidding? Did your uncle object to how the Company treated the land? They didn’t exactly cut selectively for the sake of the forest. did they? And what did the forests do without our interference? Die?

  • Anonymous

    The people who owned the mills were not native Mainer’s and what they did was make a moonscape out of the area, spray it, pollute it,  so that only the trees that they want returned. Are you kidding? Did your uncle object to how the Company treated the land? They didn’t exactly cut selectively for the sake of the forest. did they? And what did the forests do without our interference? Die?

  • Anonymous

    The people who owned the mills were not native Mainer’s and what they did was make a moonscape out of the area, spray it, pollute it,  so that only the trees that they want returned. Are you kidding? Did your uncle object to how the Company treated the land? They didn’t exactly cut selectively for the sake of the forest. did they? And what did the forests do without our interference? Die?

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps if you moved out of town that would be a positive sign for the rest of us left here to enjoy a yet to be re-awakened town. Whether we become a haven for retirees who can now afford to buy here, or we become a tourist stopover, we will survive just fine. We may have less ability to support municipal employees/retirees, but we will still survive nicely. Look at Corrina or Westport (remember Maine Yankee?) We’ll do just fine. We’ll adapt and assimilate to any new issues that may present themselves. After all, the mill in Millinocket has been dead for the past 3 years, so we are inured to any news about East Mill’s mill. If the mill gets torn down for scrap all the people on Main St in East will have waterfront property, so it’s a win/win situation. :o)

  • Anonymous

    Please, the Polstein’s have their own agenda, that much is clear. The community comes second to their avarice. Let’s get this straight right off the bat.

  • Anonymous

    Please, the Polstein’s have their own agenda, that much is clear. The community comes second to their avarice. Let’s get this straight right off the bat.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely.  Why is it that I think the Polstein’s will be the sole consessionaire providing transportation into Quimby National Park?  That’s the thing about Polstein, always working an angle that benefits himself. 

  • Anonymous

    They have done a lot more for the region than you will ever do.

  • Anonymous

    Your right, we will see.

  • Anonymous

    Just think, one of the things that makes Acadia and Baxter State Park successful is “reasonable” access.  Even in Baxter, one can drive to most of the important features and have a nice wilderness experience once away from your vehicle.  Quimbyland will never have “reasonable” access.  I  believe that Quimby will deed Quimby National Park to the Feds with the stipulation that no motorized access be allowed, as that is destined to be the Queen Bee’s legacy.  Backpackers are not going to revitalize Millinocket. 

    Why isn’t Quimby giving this land to Baxter State Park?  It would make sense, as they’re right next door and share some of the same management values.  The BDN needs to specifically  ask both her and Jensen Bissell that question.  Is it because Quimby won’t pony up the dough as an endowment to take care of the land?   Ask Quimby about her future plans that will be using this endowment money she can’t give Baxter.  The Queen Bee isn’t done her nest building.

  • Anonymous

    I’m willing to bet us nuts are
    going to be able to keep out Quimby National Park….

     

     

  • Anonymous

    Just watch how this becomes a hot topic election issue.

    This is not a Republican or Democrat thing, but rather conservative versus liberal topic.

  • Anonymous

    I look forward to this going to a vote

  • Anonymous

    I look forward to this going to a vote

  • Anonymous

    I look forward to this going to a vote

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    When you can get me the vote in Portland’s land use, then I welcome you to Millinocket’s election…!

  • Anonymous

    Then you won’t have a problem when this goes to a vote.

  • Anonymous

    So you can do to them what BDN is doing to conservatives— hell no..!

  • Anonymous

    Morwe like I won’t

  • Anonymous

    There are a lot of positive things going on; if you were from around here you would know…

  • Anonymous

    There are a lot of positive things going on; if you were from around here you would know…

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you mean East Millinocket…

    There are plenty of toxic toilets in Maine, but even with those “we” the voting base of Maine have no say in their neck of the woods. So until you get the entire state to have a say in every town, then this is a vote of area residents.

  • Anonymous

    If you say so…

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Worse.  So much worse.  It’s like the difference between just being dead and being a mindless, flesh-eating zombie. Now, your mileage may vary, it’s still ostensibly a free country, but given the choice I’d take just being dead.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Worse.  So much worse.  It’s like the difference between just being dead and being a mindless, flesh-eating zombie. Now, your mileage may vary, it’s still ostensibly a free country, but given the choice I’d take just being dead.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Worse.  So much worse.  It’s like the difference between just being dead and being a mindless, flesh-eating zombie. Now, your mileage may vary, it’s still ostensibly a free country, but given the choice I’d take just being dead.

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Worse.  So much worse.  It’s like the difference between just being dead and being a mindless, flesh-eating zombie. Now, your mileage may vary, it’s still ostensibly a free country, but given the choice I’d take just being dead.

  • Anonymous

    We as taxpayers cannot afford another unfunded burden.

     

    It will remove
    more jobs than it creates-
    The few jobs it will create will not even pay a livable wage-
    It will remove much access to hunters, atv use, snowmobiles, horses and
    logging-
    It has been proven that this will become an ongoing cost on the backs of the
    taxpayers-

    Even liberal actor Sam Waterston is rallying for additional money to keep what
    we have from crumbling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    We just can’t afford another National Park

  • Anonymous

    We as taxpayers cannot afford another unfunded burden.

     

    It will remove
    more jobs than it creates-
    The few jobs it will create will not even pay a livable wage-
    It will remove much access to hunters, atv use, snowmobiles, horses and
    logging-
    It has been proven that this will become an ongoing cost on the backs of the
    taxpayers-

    Even liberal actor Sam Waterston is rallying for additional money to keep what
    we have from crumbling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejO6c3iw3bg

    We just can’t afford another National Park

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    Because it wouldnt be the Quimby National Park…

  • Anonymous

    I bet you won’t

  • Anonymous

    Hey….I really enjoyed poking many of you yesterday. I also signed in as Libber
    to stir the proverbial pot. It was fun.
    Heck, this article received more comments than anything else I’ve seen. Must be a really important issue.

    Actually, most of us who don’t live in Millinocket, but visit and enjoy
    Maine’s wild and beautiful lands, the Katahdin area included, really
    hope that good things come to the good people of Millinocket.

    What I find so sad and troubling is that NO ONE  has come up
    with one, just one good idea that will revive the town. A National Park
    is not THE answer, but it could be and should at least be considered as a
    piece of a new economy. That’s what so many of us who don’t live there
    just cannot understand.

    The other point that hasn’t been stressed at all is what “development”
    has done to ruin the natural resources (and close off once open land to
    the public) of California, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Florida, NC, and so
    many other beautiful places. Developers only care about making money
    and getting out. Plum Creek will do the same. The paper companies are no different than the Del Webs,
    the investment bankers, and the wind power investors. They exploit the
    resources and the people and then they leave…..after taking millions of dollars in tax breaks.

    One way to preserve and protect for all time is to establish state and
    national parks, national forests and monuments, and land trusts.

    Peace to all and good luck. All of us need Millinocket to succeed and hope that going forward, not backwards, becomes the imperative.

    PS
    If Congress creates a feasibility study, they – ooops WE – all Americans, pay for it. And it will include residents, local businesses, and probably even Conlogue (if he’s still around), along with legislators and other experts and stakeholders from around the state. It is NOT a slam dunk by any means.

  • Anonymous

    Hey….I really enjoyed poking many of you yesterday. I also signed in as Libber
    to stir the proverbial pot. It was fun.
    Heck, this article received more comments than anything else I’ve seen. Must be a really important issue.

    Actually, most of us who don’t live in Millinocket, but visit and enjoy
    Maine’s wild and beautiful lands, the Katahdin area included, really
    hope that good things come to the good people of Millinocket.

    What I find so sad and troubling is that NO ONE  has come up
    with one, just one good idea that will revive the town. A National Park
    is not THE answer, but it could be and should at least be considered as a
    piece of a new economy. That’s what so many of us who don’t live there
    just cannot understand.

    The other point that hasn’t been stressed at all is what “development”
    has done to ruin the natural resources (and close off once open land to
    the public) of California, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Florida, NC, and so
    many other beautiful places. Developers only care about making money
    and getting out. Plum Creek will do the same. The paper companies are no different than the Del Webs,
    the investment bankers, and the wind power investors. They exploit the
    resources and the people and then they leave…..after taking millions of dollars in tax breaks.

    One way to preserve and protect for all time is to establish state and
    national parks, national forests and monuments, and land trusts.

    Peace to all and good luck. All of us need Millinocket to succeed and hope that going forward, not backwards, becomes the imperative.

    PS
    If Congress creates a feasibility study, they – ooops WE – all Americans, pay for it. And it will include residents, local businesses, and probably even Conlogue (if he’s still around), along with legislators and other experts and stakeholders from around the state. It is NOT a slam dunk by any means.

  • Anonymous

    mainejeff

    Hey….I really enjoyed poking many of them yesterday.  It was fun.

    Heck, this article received more comments than anything else I’ve seen. Must be a really important issue.

    Actually, most of us who don’t live in Millinocket, but visit and enjoy
    Maine’s wild and beautiful lands, the Katahdin area included, really
    hope that good things come to the good people of Millinocket.

    What I find so sad and troubling is that NO ONE  has come up
    with one, just one good idea that will revive the town. A National Park
    is not THE answer, but it could be and should at least be considered as a
    piece of a new economy. That’s what so many of us who don’t live there
    just cannot understand.

    The other point that hasn’t been stressed at all is what “development”
    has done to ruin the natural resources (and close off once open land to
    the public) of California, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Florida, NC, and so
    many other beautiful places. Developers only care about making money
    and getting out. Plum Creek will do the same. The paper companies are no different than the Del Webs, the investment bankers, and the wind power investors. They exploit the
    resources and the people and then they leave…..after taking millions of dollars in tax breaks.

    One way to preserve and protect for all time is to establish state and
    national parks, national forests and monuments, and land trusts.

    Peace  good luck. All of us need Millinocket to succeed and hope
    that going forward, not backwards, becomes the imperative. I’m checking out of this, but hope you keep stirring the pot.

    PS
    If
    Congress creates a feasibility study, they – ooops WE – all Americans,
    pay for it. And it will include residents, local businesses, and
    probably even Conlogue (if he’s still around), along with legislators
    and other experts and stakeholders from around the state. It is NOT a
    slam dunk by any means.

  • Anonymous

    I guess we will see…

  • Anonymous

    Apparently you haven’t been reading the ballots you vote on.  We vote almost every year on bonds concerning fishing, waterfronts, land and waterway conservation, etc. that apply to all parts of the state, as well as prisons.    You do not live in a bubble.  Wake up.

  • Anonymous

    Right on.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you keep repeating the same thing over and over, true or not…to convince yourself?

  • Anonymous

    Wake up yourself, Baldacci has left the building… :-)

  • Anonymous

    What’s the matter, does the truth hurt…?

  • Anonymous

    What’s the matter, does the truth hurt…?

  • Anonymous

    What’s the matter, does the truth hurt…?

  • Anonymous

    Horses???? Where did that come from?  Millinocket outlawed horses a couple of years ago anyway so why are you now coming to the defense of their use? 

  • Anonymous

    And the difference is????……..

  • Anonymous

    That’s why the vote has to go out statewide. 

  • Anonymous

    No, we won’t……..a STATEWIDE VOTE.

  • Anonymous

    Or you……………

  • Anonymous

    Or you……………

  • Anonymous

    Is the National Park going to be in Millinocket???……..I didn’t think so.

  • Anonymous

    No…….you can’t.

  • Anonymous

    Me too…….a STATEWIDE VOTE.

  • Anonymous

    LOL………yeah, that Chinese controversy was a HUGE positive!  Or maybe it is the still shutdown mill or large population loss reported in the 2010 Census?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, we will……..

  • Anonymous

    Yes, we will……..

  • Anonymous

    Like any good businessman?……..seems like Millinocket needs more of ‘em.

  • Anonymous

    Like any good businessman?……..seems like Millinocket needs more of ‘em.

  • Anonymous

    You may soon get your wish.

  • Anonymous

    You may soon get your wish.

  • Anonymous

    Really, I know of at least one person that has them…

  • Anonymous

    The difference is that area residents are primarily conservative…

  • Anonymous

    we’ll see

  • Anonymous

    what ever helps you

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