Comments for: Respect gender identity

Posted Dec. 16, 2012, at 10:34 a.m.

In 2005, Maine voters endorsed a law protecting gay, lesbian, and transgender individuals. Despite opposition to the law from organizations like the Christian Civic League and several efforts before its passage to carve out exceptions to it, the law passed with overwhelming support. Efforts at partial repeal since its endorsement …

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  • Anonymous

    Transgender people should just use the unisex bathrooms. Otherwise everyone else, who happen to be in the majority, are put in an awkward position.

    • Anonymous

      Why do you assume that “everyone else” is made awkward? Wasn’t it just the actions of the boy whose homophobic grandfather had a problem? Wasn’t he actually a minority of one and in fact it was not “everyone else” who had a problem?

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a novel idea. How about if transgendered folk take a time out and attempt to show respect for the rest of the population and our rights. Like the rights of little girls to not see a naked penis (even if it is alleged to belong to another little girl) in the girl’s bathroom at their elementary school. How surprising and confusing for a 5 year old.

    • Are there urinals in girls rooms now? I’ve never seen a girls room without stalls. When exactly would have the “naked penis” been on display?

      • Anonymous

        Dear sad_statue, do you think that peeing and pooping are all that little girls do in the bathroom?

        • I was never a little girl, so I cannot say, though that would be my assumption, yes. Am I not privy to some great secret?

          In little boys rooms, there are stalls for the shy boys. “Naked penises” are not just being waved around. Even at a urinal, one would have to make efforts to see their neighbors’.

        • Scott Harriman

          They probably also wash and dry their hands and perhaps groom their hair.

          I have never been in a girls’ bathroom, but I find it hard to believe that they routinely wave their genitals about for everyone to see.

          • Anonymous

            of course they do not, nor could they. They do, however, change clothes and compare various things as to whether their body part or piece of clothing might be attractive to boys.

            Now this, do trangendered little people prefer people of their new or old gender for partners?

          • Gina Blazewing

            First: We are talking about elementary school kids. Second, what does sexual orientation have to do with gender identity issues?

          • notateapartier

            I’m sure that things have changed since I was a sixth grade girl, but when I was in school, we had stalls when we used the toilet, and I never saw anyone waving their naked genitalia around.

        • Gina Blazewing

          Sounds ot me like you know exactly what little girls do in the bathroom. How would one know this? Hmmm….

    • Gina Blazewing

      I believe it was only the grandfather who had the problem, and not the rest of the school. Did you even read the article, or are you really just not going to bother educating yourself?

      • Anonymous

        Of course I read the article and followed the case all the way. I just disagree. I do not disagree with adult rights, but unless parents allow the child to have the formal surgery, the answer is easy, she must accept the offered restroom. Until then, she self identifies as a girl and is uncomfortable in her male body, but it is still a male body and that is offensive to allow in a girls’ only restroom. No one is saying she must be a boy, act or dress like a boy, or anything of the sort.

      • Anonymous

        Please let me add, that I don’t feel that the visitors to this site, the posters here, are tolerant of an opposing viewpoint. I am a minority seeking the right to voice my opinion, but am being treated quite unfairly. Is that not true? And do you not see the parallel?

  • Very mature grandfather, making an issue where there wasn’t one.

  • Anonymous

    Can we not just let the schools be a place to still be a child and not faced with all the complexity of the adult world? I would think elementary school a bit young to decide to take on the whole issue of gender identity. If one’s child finds him/her self in conflict, please let him/her save that revelation for the appropriate time in life when children are not affected. I am certain one would hold off allowing gender reassignment surgery until later in life when one can be more certain it is the right and appropriate course for that person, certainly not in grammar school years. Let them be children. Do not force all the rest of the school to comply with the wishes of the parents of the single child who is in conflict.

    • Scott Harriman

      Why should someone who is obviously in the wrong body be forced to continue living in that body for years just because some nosy person is “uncomfortable” with gender identity issues?

      • Anonymous

        If they are uncomfortable in the wrong body, change it, and then it would be appropriate to use the bathroom of their reassigned gender. Fair?

      • Anonymous

        How exactly does one get into the “wrong body?” Unisex bathrooms for all…today.

    • Anonymous

      Do gender identity issues suddenly emerge at “adulthood”? I don’t think so.

    • Gina Blazewing

      SO you’re saying that the grandfather, who forced his wishes on the girl and the school (Who were accepting) was right, but that the girl should have to hide who she is?

  • Anonymous

    That’s the trouble I have with the GLBT community. It isn’t that they are different from others. It isn’t that I don’t like them or that I am afraid of them. They want respect, but don’t offer it. They want rights at the expense of all the rest of the people. Please just consider that others have rights and deserve respect too. Perhaps we need to legislate them to get them??? Can we not just live in peace with one another without the continual argument?

    • Tedlick Badkey

      What are gay folks asking for that you don’t already have, or that won’t be fully extended to you?

    • Anonymous

      This same attitude is used against so many other groups… This is the “trouble” people have with the Muslim community, the black community, the Jewish community… any community that differs from your own.

      • Anonymous

        There is one exception to your rule. Christians are routinely abused in this venue, yet no one has problems with that.

        • Anonymous

          That’s a load of BS. There is no persecution of Christians in the United States that comes close.
          The so-called “war on Christmas” is manufactured outrage that is really tiresome to those of us who simply want to celebrate the holiday season with good will.

  • Dr. Cowboy

    Why don’t we do away with gender bathrooms altogether if biological gender doesn’t matter? We deal with the cards were are dealt, biologically a boy…your a boy and not a girl because you want to be. Later on after a sex change you can use the girl’s bathroom. Deal with it!!!

  • Anonymous

    Why is it, that gender identity was never an issue until the last 10 or so years? Just another way for the liberal left to beat down their own path to social change. We as a society are screwed up beyond help. This is progress? Define progress.

    • Anonymous

      Umm, gender identity has been an issue for transgendered people for decades. You have only heard about it yourself for the last 10 years or so, but I recall hearing about it my whole life. For example, tennis star Renée Richards made headlines when she got a sex change operation in the 1970’s.

      You want me to define progress? That’s easy— progress is when our US Constitution affords all people equal protection under the laws. Progress is when we find we better understand each others humanity, and do not marginalize and demonize groups because they are different from us.

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