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  • Anonymous

    More wasted tax dollars to prop up an industry that is not viable or WANTED!

    • Josh Plourde

      The Department of Energy, NREL, Sandia, and a slew of academic institutions and research programs argue otherwise. What makes an offshore wind industry not viable?

      Visit here: http://energy.gov/articles/accelerating-offshore-wind-development

      “Offshore wind is a large, untapped energy resource, with the potential to generate 4,000 gigawatts of clean electricity, support up to 200,000 manufacturing, construction, operation and supply chain jobs across the country and drive over $70 billion in annual investments by 2030, according to a new report commissioned by the Energy Department.”

      • Anonymous

        Terrorism!

      • Anonymous

        No Josh they get paid to argue otherwise. The money to be made from this is incredible.. The energy it will produce is laughable.

        • Josh Plourde

          What data are you referencing?

          • Anonymous

            effecency of these are in the low 20’s precentages. If you furnance was 20% effecent when purchased, would you buy it?

          • Anonymous

            Wrong.

            Wind turbines are highly efficient in converting wind to electricity.

            Overall conversion efficiency for wind turbines is greater than 40% – which is as good, or better, than the most advanced combined cycle gas turbines on the market today.

            Confusing wind turbine capacity factors to oil boiler efficiency is equally dumb.

            People do not operate their oil furnaces 24/7 during heating season, and shut them off in the summer.

            Oil furnace annual capacity factors are very low by that measure.

            Wind turbines are designed to capture and convert wind energy into electricity over a wide range of wind speeds.

            They do not need to have high capacity factors to generate large amounts of low cost electricity – which they do quite well.

            Yessah

          • Patten_Pete

            FULL YEAR REPORT OF WIND OUTPUT IN MAINE:

            Under 25% Capacity

            http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/full-year-report-of-wind-output-in-maine

          • Anonymous

            You really don’t have a clue about how this works. You embarrass yourself by posting such drivel as conversion efficiency of wind being greater than combined cycle gas fired turbines. That is sheer fantasy. Cite your resource, as USEIA shows comparisons based on a common denominator of BTUs and wind, as always, ends up being the BIG LOSER.

          • Dwight

            Offshore turbines have a much higher “effecency.” Terrestrial turbines do much better than 20% as well

          • Anonymous

            Dwight and munebaght, go to the tables that are derived from the actual data reported by the wind site operators to FERC that are at the link cited above. This is the truth, assembled by an energy market analyst. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your fantasy! http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/full-year-report-of-wind-output-in-maine

      • Anonymous

        AHHH the magic word POTENTIAL. could, might maybe

        • Josh Plourde

          So business as usual is good business? Should we not bother trying anything new or different, no matter how PROMISING or POTENTIALLY GREAT it could be?

          • Anonymous

            It is neither good science or sound economics. Let the investors decide whether or not to pursue, not keep feeding money we borrow from China into this. If shallow off shore Block Island, using monopoles attached to the ocean floor and off the shelf technology is at a starting point of 24 cents per kwh with 3.5% annual index, I can’t imagine what the cost of floating platforms of wind turbines in the Gulf of Maine will end up being. It is not economically viable.

    • Anonymous

      Yes because using a source of energy that will run out is viable.

      • Anonymous

        The peak oil myth is nothing but an imature ubderstanding of our universe and the processes which formed life on ths planet. There are many astrobiologists and geologists out there who question the hypothesis of biogenic formation of fossil fuel. See Thomas Gold for starters, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gold , and try reading his book “The Deep Hot Biosphere”.

    • Josh Plourde

      Also – what’s not to want? Energy being generated out of everyone’s back yard. No emissions, no smoke stacks, and no poisoned aqueducts from fracking.

      Best of all, the Gulf of Maine has one of the biggest offshore wind resources in the country. Why wouldn’t Maine want this industry? Why wouldn’t Maine want all of this electricity to sell off to other States? Why wouldn’t Maine want high quality, high paying, green technology jobs?

      Is business as usual really an option?

      • Anonymous

        It is not commercially viable. Why do this at upwards to 50 cents per kwh when we in Maine sit between Churchill Falls and the northeast megalopolis. Chruchill Falls is the worlds second largest hydro project and if we were smart, we would make revenue from our poor state by charging to bring that power through and secure long term power rates that could be the lowest in the northeast.

        That would be quicker, easier, less costly and we wouldn’t be investing tens of billions of taxpayer money into a folly that with the next “Perfect Storm” (October 30, 31 1991) will all end up somewhere at the top end of the Bay of Fundy as wreakage. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/satellite/satelliteseye/cyclones/pfctstorm91/pfctstorm.html

  • Anonymous

    only need 1.21 gigawatts for a flux capacitor.

  • Anonymous

    Every free energy device developed trom Tesla to the modern age of inventers that has been proven to work has been stolen by the Government to protect the business man. So wind is a farce because the Government hasn’t hidden it from the public.

    • Anonymous

      Yup! It’s all a conspiracy; they want to build all those windmills with long blades. After a while they’re going to tie ropes around all of us and drag us out there to drown. I read about it on the internet!

      • Anonymous

        Be careful not to believe everything you Read OK Larry, makes it easier to sleep at night.

    • Anonymous

      Besides, they’ll put your eye out!

    • Josh Plourde

      With that logic, you’ve established that oil and gas are also a farcical energy source. Sounds right.

  • Josh Plourde

    How many MPGs does your car get?

    Moral of the story – research is being done to improve the efficiency (both in terms of technology and cost). The percentage efficiency depends on the turbine manufacturing process, as well as the siting and other factors.

  • Anonymous

    All of this is due to former UME President Bob Kennedy, who should have been present to receive cheers. Everyone else involved played a minor role. The off-shore facility should be named in his honor.

    • Josh Plourde

      Not sure that’s completely accurate, but thanks.

      With all due respect to the former president, didn’t R.k. just resign on account of a $20k+ kickback he received at his new place of employment?

  • Anonymous

    Great news.

    Bring it.

    Yessah

  • Anonymous

    Yet more millions of TAXPAYER $$$ being flushed down the drain for foolishness that isn’t economically viable at a time when we can’t balance a Federal budget for the last 4 years and we keep adding to the $16 Trillion National Debt. If we are ever going to get out of this downward spiral of deficit spending, we have to start with getting rid of spending on things that are not essential to the role of government. If there is a potential for generation of electricity in deep water, let the energy companies develop the technology and risk the investment. If the market were freed of subsidies, tax schemes, and mandates, then I believe we would see plenty of innovation grow out of old-fashioned competition.

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