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  • Anonymous

    Maybe your on to something charlie.Go for it.Good luck.

    • Resigning because he’s an incompetent buffoon who helped sabotage his own parties chances this year? Yes he is onto something, and he is going for it. ;)

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s clear now that Charlie Webster wants to do as much damage as he can to Maine GOP on his way out.

    As a registered Republican, I am ashamed at how he has acted in his tenure, and wish he had resigned when he renewed this misguided and ignorant accusation of voter fraud. Didn’t we learn from our mistakes in 2011? We spent thousands of dollars hunting for this elusive voter fraud, and found nothing.

    Its time to move on and find Republican leadership for Maine that is in step with our values.

    • StillRelaxin

      Finally a Republican talking sense. I won’t likely ever agree with you on much else in the area of politics but on this you’re clearly using your head. What baffles me are the many who’s minds are so stuck in concrete that they STILL see no reason what-so-ever to deviate from the dark path they’ve followed for the past few years. Hating on poor people or simply people who aren’t like you is no way to build a thriving political party. I sense you get this and I hope you share it with your representatives.

      • Anonymous

        At last !!
        Good bye and good riddance, Charlie.
        Don’t let the screen door hit on the way out.

        • He won’t be the party chair. He will still be on the state Republican committee, he will still be a resident of Maine, and it’s entirely likely he will run for public office again, very soon.

          • Anonymous

            Naran, tell Charlie the state of Maine isn’t interested in what he’s got to sell

          • Anonymous

            god help us and it is likely he will lose..

          • Anonymous

            And so???????? Let him run, I don’t think he’d ever win. As a Tea Party member, I think he’s an embarassment to the Republican Party. I don’t think for a minute that there was any voter fraud in Maine. Having said that, I think it is pretty well-known that other parts of the country did experience the things he claims took place here. Hopefully, he’ll simply go quietly into the sunset. I can’t imagine the GOP would support him if he ever decided to run for office. BTW, I’m as disgusted with the Republicans as I am the Democrats- I think you’d find that most Tea Party members feel the same way.

    • Anonymous

      Your point being that he hates you “RINOs” the most ?

      • Anonymous

        We see what happens when the Republicans expunge “RINO” candidates— democrats take those seats. It happened here in Maine when extremists got their wish and “RINO” Snow stepped down, and we saw it in a couple other senate races across our country where the incumbent RINO republican lost to an extremist candidate, who then lost to the Democratic challenger.

        Republicans who hate RINOs are cutting their nose off to spite their face. ESPECIALLY here in Maine, which has at best a centrist-moderate Republican base.

        • Anonymous

          Extremist do that.
          Driving that point home to the moderate Republicans is a kindness.

          It is something we don’t need to do, which they might not do, but it is just the right thing for America, even if I may live to regret doing the right thing.

    • Dope Boy

      You represent what Republican once stood for, ‘moderation’.

      Mr. Webster is not only a deceitful Karl Rove type but he is a disgrace to and of the beautiful State of Maine.
      A State where they now write on the bathroom walls of America, “beware in Maine” (a laughing stock)

      To you I reach my hand out and say bravo !

      • Anonymous

        The media only highlights the Drama, you are the one that then decides most of the party must be like the ones on the news. Would you like every democrat to be framed as ‘Pelosi Jr’, or ‘Barny Franks mimi me’s’? or a bunch of people that cover a large swath of Ideas? The majority of the R’s in maine are more like ConvivialVisits then they are like Webster. Thus he would have been removed if he didn’t quit. Lets start having adult conversations instead of slaming anything R.

        • Dope Boy

          Not slamming everything Republican, just wondering when you ‘R’s” start taking responsibility and man-up and perhaps grow-up !

          Enough is Enough already.

          Your party has allowed every ‘crack pot and group’ under the sun to take control and destroy a legacy built by Abraham Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower and Barry Goldwater.

          That may work in Red China but this is America..

          • Anonymous

            I=Independant. but you make my point,- “Your party has allowed every ‘crack pot and group’ under the sun to take control and destroy a legacy built by Abraham, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower and Barry Goldwater.”

            -You let the media make your opinion. you see R and you think of the few crazies are the party. I just looked back through your comment history and see that the tea party is the root of every problem that you see. MEA restraints as a Tea party conspiracy, anything bad in this state is Lepage’s fault………………………………

            There are good people in both parties and their are wackos too. Debbie Schultz the chair of the D’s spent 10 minutes arguing with Anderson Cooper, taking the position that its OK to misquote the LA Times because the actual quote was not supportive of the Democrats position, but the DNC revision was, Or Pelosi encouraging passing a bill without reading it. Two indefensible actions.

          • Thank you.

          • Dope Boy

            You have no point except what you have been spoon fed by your ‘own talking points’.

            It’s getting old, read between the lines of what Mrs. Pelosi is saying. If we don’t pass this the ‘obstructionist’ will continue to block it, it’s not about helping America it’s about a political ideology. Your party spent 4 years trying to defeat President Obama. It’s really not about policy, it truly is that ‘Black’ still frightens some.

            Being a so called ‘Independent’ is merely a cop-out in this day and age. You’ll go where they pay the best, where it fit’s your ‘view’ of America.

            Lead, Follow, or GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY..

          • Your caps key appears to be stuck.

          • Anonymous

            You sir do not get it. The biggest threat to this country are it’s debt and depending problem. Do you remember Ross Perot? His charts? We are currently on the upslope of the exponential increase in entitlement spending and are ahead of his dismal predictions. No amounts of taxes can correct that. I last registered as reform party before joining the R’s. As a ron Paul supporter before uninrolling as an I. Pelosi says trust me vote yes. I say know what you vote for in this country. “Trust me “no I trust stability in reality. The R’s are the only ones that see the budget problem. Their refusal to increase taxes on the rich is the problem with their solution but they are the only ones that understand that spending must be cut. If they put defense and tax realignment on the table it would be great. The D’s plan is to keep inflating the balloon. That just means itcrashes harder. No I will not get out of the way. I will fight for American fundamentals until I have to fight to protect my garden. I wish social liberty was the biggest problem we had. I’d be a D all day. Unfortunately if America is going to survive we must pay for what we do and remove beaurocrasy stifling innovation to grow ‘free ‘ and be America not Europe or aisa

          • Briney

            The teapublicans should listen to what President Reagan said about “entitlements.” Simply: Social Security is not a part of the deficit.” The “Entitlements” cure for the deficit as proposed by Ryan, Cantor, and laughing McConnell and Boehner, are not entitlements. SS is funded by voluntary deductions and contributions by workers and employers during a lifetime of work. How can that be an “entitlement” ready to be axed by greedy elected “to serve?” teapublican who live off the fat of the land? Even Medicare payments are taxed. The overused “entitlement” clause for “you save the Bush tax cuts, or, we’ll cut entitlements,” makes for boring and stuffy republicanism.

            How can a republican receiving a stipend of $174,000 per year, total medical coverage for he/she and family, housing and travel allowances – dismiss Social Security and Medicare as Socialism? Worse – How can any elected representative of the people unremorsefully sacrifice such great programs for the older people, simply so the rich 2 % of our population can enjoy the greatest tax breaks?

            After listening and watching two years of non-stop assaults against the elderly in this country by the teapublicans, it is obvious they are a shameless bunch.

          • Anonymous

            Well argued.

          • Briney

            The Reagan clip deserves more exposure.

            “Social Security is not part of the deficit.”

            But look at the comments by the millionaires on this board. Most equate it with socialism. Fine. How do they categorize the huge medical benefits enjoyed by the likes of Collins, McConnell, Boehner, Ryan, Cantor and all the other self serving republicans? Socialism? Oh, no. They believe they deserve it for working far less – disgustingly less – than the average working man or woman does.

            Finally. I hope Angus follows through on his promise to get a bill rolling that says – No budget passed – No wages for Congress.

          • Anonymous

            It can be an entitlement because there has been an explosion of people collecting who have never paid a dime into it. You make the Tea Party’s point, without intending to do so. The truly shamelss are the people who feel they should be the beneficiaries of something they never spent a day earning. How can a Democrat receiving a stipend of $174,000 per year, total medical coverage for he/she and family, housing and travel allowances, expect Social Security and Medicare paid for by an ever-decreasing number of workers be expected to cover an ever-increasing number of people who pay nothing into it? Social Security and Medicare were created on the basis that there would always be enough people who paid in to support those who didn’t.

          • Anonymous

            Hater. I’m done conversing with people that resort to name calling. Grow up

          • Anonymous

            Clinton deregulated wall street. Add bush raising the price of oil five dollars every time he mentioned Iran or the axis of evil. That strangled you and me on our budgets. Oil killing ever budget is what crashed the housing bubble. The D’s are keeping the prices high now. Defense needs to be defense not offence and energy cost reductions must be priority that means stop meddling in the middle east. Obama too.

          • Anonymous

            “Black” does not frighten me. Radicals who cut their political teeth at the knee of Saul Alinsky-ites do. I wouldn’t care if Barack Obama was pink with purple polka dots. His redistributive, punish America as the bully ideaology frightens me. I’ve spend the last 6 years reading and researching what this man stands for and I will go to my grave saying that he is evil. The only person Barack Obama cares about is Barack Obama. He doesn’t want to see everyone be successful; he wants to see everyone fail and live off the government teat. Try reading more than the New York Times and watching something besides MSNBC. I’d happily GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY but, unfortunately, his policies will drag me down with people like you who have placed their dreams in the hands of a man who is as cold as a shark’s eyes and doesn’t really give a d*mn about the American people. Just for the record, my high school was 86% black the year I graduated and most of my best friends were African-American, so don’t throw the “racist” epithet at me. Fruthermore, I grew up in Chicago and know quite a bit more about “the Chicago way” than you do.

          • Anonymous

            Who’s letting media make their opinion? Where exactly did you get the information you cite about Schultz and Pelosi? Didn’t your opinions of these two women come from what you took in from the media? You seem to do in your second paragraph exactly that which you bemoan in your first one.

          • Anonymous

            Want to see the video? Check this thing called Google. My point is the media wont stop talking about the outgoing R state chair saying something dumb after the election. But in the middle of the election there is no coverage of the DMC chair being openly being deceptive and saying its ok in a national interview can only be found on a couple sites. But Google it the videos are there. The d ‘s are not saints but coverage is skewed on the majority of news outlets. Look at everything from both sides and you see the ugly truth.

          • Anonymous

            If lepage said what pelosi said I’d be disappointed too. They have great responsibility and in politics saying trust me is like putting the rope on your neck yourself. Be deliberate and know what you pass to make sure it is right for the people.

        • Anonymous

          i WANT TO KNOW WHEN THOSE moderate republicans are going to finally speak out against the Websters of the party.

          • Anonymous

            You didn’t see the state convention did you

          • Anonymous

            We saw the GOP National Convention,
            Everyone there embarrassed Maine.

          • Fortunately, Maine fiscal conservatives don’t give a fig for what non-Republicans think of their convention. We had standing room only conditions, and passionately engaged attendees, which is better than the lack-luster, poorly attended Dem convention this year.

          • Anonymous

            Perhaps the Dem convention was not as interesting this year Naran because the Dem’s didn’t EXCLUDE a legitimate majority vote statewide. Nor did it’s national party leader’s get bullied into refusing to seat it’s own party’s delegates. It’s no wonder it was “standing room only”, those standing were the delegates that were refused their seats! Everyone likes to watch a good drama every now and then.

          • James Klowning

            blah blah blah…you guys done great… now go the way of the whigs and happy holidays

          • Anonymous

            How did that work for you?

          • Anonymous

            It was horrible , and not well run, from all reports.

          • Anonymous

            When the aristocracy want one thing and the people want another its not going to go well. Aka the people that participate said status quo is junk.

    • Anonymous

      Sadly, you are part of a vanishing breed. Your party will nominate Santorum for president in 2016 and Hillary Clinton will crush him. Even then, wiser heads may not prevail. Your party, by 2020, may have only spent 12 of the Biblical 40 years in the wilderness.

      • I am cynical, though I don’t think so. And I sure hope the dems do better than Hillary too.

      • StillRelaxin

        I hope you’re right about Santorum, that would be an easy victory for most any Democrat. Hillary? I highly doubt she’ll run. She’s been looking very tired and tired of the public scene lately. I’m thinking she’s finally had enough of the crap and might prefer to finally relax and enjoy a grandchild or two.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, she looks a bit tired at times, but who wouldn’t with that schedule, no matter your age. I don’t know if she will run either. She has said she wants to do other things (work in the field of women’s rights, etc) . It is hard to know. She would have more family time in the White House than she has now…by far. There are going to be a lot of people trying to persuade her to run, but I think it is is hard to say right now.

        • pbmann

          I think it will be Ryan instead of Santorum but the result will be the a same.

      • Briney

        Huntsman was the only real or true Conservative the republicans had. His problem: He was appointed as Ambassador to China by President Obama. Besides, he evidenced the quality of moderation, which is non-acceptable within the current far right teapublican facade. Agreed. Hillary will take it hands down.

    • Anonymous

      I get the desire to have him investigated, but I’d rather we just go about the business of forgetting this creep.

    • Actually, Maine did not spend “thousands of dollars” investigating the allegations of voter fraud. The staff at the Maine AG and SOS offices is salaried. The investigation cost very little.

      Meanwhile, I hope you’ll volunteer to help the new GOP chairperson, and your local party committee.

      • Anonymous

        No argument on your points!

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for some integrity and sense. It is one thing to be fiscally and even socially “conservative.” It is quite another thing to be a delusional ultra right wing TeaRadical. These TeaRadicals are NOT “conservative.” They practice dangerous, often racist, radical right wing ideology. The TeaRadical OxyHeadRush Limbaugh crowd is doing your party no good service. Yours is the party that once had TR, Ike, Rockefeller, Chase Smith, and Cohen. These people would now be considered “unwelcome liberals” within the majority base of today’s GOP. I hope you have some luck trying to move your party base back toward the center.

  • Anonymous

    Responsible leaders do not whip up irrational fears by making sensational and unverifiable claims. We are all better off if this kind of mentality never gains hold of power. It is the root of moral deterioration.

    • Anonymous

      Yes Komrade leaders must show responsibility at all times while praising glorious leader in Whithouse.

      • Anonymous

        Hilarious. Rs/TPers are the most notable for toeing the party line, my way or the highway.

      • Anonymous

        Comrade isn’t spelled with a K

        If America is so horrible why don’t you give Canada a shot.

      • Anonymous

        You illustrate, mightily, why your side lost.

      • Anonymous

        I see you’re still spouting your delusional nonsensical vomit you get from your hero the Drug Addict In Chief PILLS LIMBAUGH. Want to know why you just took a very serious POUNDING in the elections? Read your own posts.

        • Anonymous

          Who is Pills Limbaugh?
          A democrat perhaps?

    • Anonymous

      They do NOW …. look at Boehner and all the rest. NEVER EVER VOTE R AGAIN!!! It seems the only lesson they MAY hear is to send them permanently into the desert for 40 + years.. They LOST on the national AND state level and still haven’t changed their approach.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly, Spruce. Look at Allen West, Michelle Bachmann, etc. I think McCarthyism is alive and well in the GOP. Problem is, many of them are proud of it.

  • Anonymous

    Hope he get’s what’s coming to him.

    • Anonymous

      he did, he just quit before he got fired

      • Anonymous

        More to come …

  • Anonymous

    Either all the folks who voted for Obama are idiots or we voted for the fellow who accurately reflects our values and policies.We won even though 60% of whites voted for Romney. The demographics of this country have changed and it hasn’t been hard to figure out which party is going to be better for ALL of us. The parties have changed direction over the last few decades, the Democrats have won our vote because they are inclusive, the Republican party lost because it wasn’t. Charlie’s fantasy of hordes of black voters from away, descending on rural Maine voting districts, is only indicative of how delusional, deranged, and destructive are Charlie and his few supporters. Wear your Jim Crow mantle with pride, you own it. And Charlie, don’t try to intimidate or suppress the minority vote, you could end up in jail.

    • Anonymous

      “Democrats have won our vote because they are inclusive”

      or perhaps it’s because they are the party that promises the most free services and unsustainable social programs to all?

      • Anonymous

        You, and certain other Republicans can keep believing that and you’ll see their margins slip even further. The Republican Party of today is a far cry from the one of my youth. They used to be the party of sensible fiscal policy but they’re fast becoming a party of fiscal & social extremism, much more like the Taliban than they’ll ever admit
        .

      • Anonymous

        I voted for President Obama and likely pay more in tips than you do in taxes. I am dependent on zero government pay-outs, unlike Republicans like Michelle Bachmann whose family farm is government-subsidized. The states that depend on federal largesse are overwhelmingly Republican. The states that are paying far more in federal taxes than they receive in federal benefits are Democratic. Get your facts straight!

      • Anonymous

        you keep telling yourself that.

      • Anonymous

        or they appealed to the most people and got out the vote.

    • Anonymous

      Democrats won because of liberality. ACLU is just looking for another banner to wave, talking about intimidation no one does it better.

      • Anonymous

        The Democrats won because, We had the better team

        • Anonymous

          If what won is a “better team” we are really going to be worse off. The mess he is dong is getting worse. More Socialist than anything.
          Sure you can win when a county or state wins with 104% voting.

          • Abel Mann

            Which county and/or state would that be, bruce?

          • Anonymous

            Must be one of the secessionist ones, where they Praise the Lord and drink the tea.

          • Better than damning Americans to Socialist Chinese leadership, and swigging down coffee brandy.

            You’re welcome.

          • Anonymous

            and yet it was vulture capitalism that “busted” it .

          • Anonymous

            you’re so 19 fifties. have you dug your bomb shelter and stockpiled your food yet? they’re coming they’re coming they’re coming to take you away haha

          • Frank Church

            Just was reading this on wikipedia about the Rosenbergs – who via movies and liberal media convinced us that Americans were crazy to find them guilty — but look .. :

            In 2008, Sobell admitted he was a spy and confirmed Julius Rosenberg was “in a conspiracy that delivered to the Soviets classified military and industrial information and what the American government described as the secret to the atomic bomb.”[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

          • Anonymous

            The Faux News Nation

          • Anonymous

            somewhere in Florida.

          • Anonymous

            apparently over 50% of Americans don’t share that view…

          • Anonymous

            Lemmings to the sea

          • Anonymous

            Lemmings to the Tea is more like it.

          • Anonymous

            My bet is that you haven’t a clue regarding what “socialist” is…other that Phoxx Phables tells you it is. If you actually think for yourself, you can act for yourself too! Otherwise, it’s Lemmings to the sea.

          • Anonymous

            it is what happens right before Communism

          • Anonymous

            As I suspected…your true colors are showing…wth did you get that information? “Right before communism” is laughable.

            Did socialism precede Soviet policy? (do you know?) Did it precede North Korea’s? Did it precede Cuba’s? Did it precede China’s? Think your own thoughts before you speak someone else’s!! (and do your homework too)

          • Anonymous

            read the definition of it and foudn it, it will especially in this case of FORCE Obama care, what is next. That is fact not my thoughts

          • Anonymous

            The lack of understanding about what constitutes socialism ,etc. by some posters such as brucefl56 is unbelievable and deplorable. Such extreme lack of knowledge is a sad thing.

          • Guest

            Where did you learn that one?

          • Anonymous

            from reading.

          • Guest

            You didn’t pay attention very well in History class did you?
            They are different. Good grief!

          • Anonymous

            Oh, First Communion.

            Got it.

          • Anonymous

            Move then.

        • The Dems had more “free” goodies at their disposal, and more expensive promises made with other people’s money. Some Dems are also not shy about lying when it suits their political purposes.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

          This unfortunate lady was under the impression that if she voted for Obama, she would get all kinds of new “free stuff.” I wonder where she could have gotten that impression.

      • Democrats didn’t win the election Bruce, Republicans lost it.

        • Anonymous

          I can agree to that to a certain extent, but also some falling for Obama blindly helped. I won’t say just be cause he was black, because they would call me a racist. Though I would of voted for Condallica Rice (yes I know it is spelled wrong.

          • When was the last time the GOP won the black demographic? Blind partisans abound on both sides – white, black, yellow and otherwise.

        • Anonymous

          Democrats focused their energy on “getting out the vote” in the section 8 dominated areas of the state and it was highly effective.

          • This state? Obama got 24k less votes than in 2008 and still won handily. Mitt had 5k less than the McCain. The 3rd party vote almost doubled. That should tell both parties something.

            The weakness of the GOP candidate, coupled with our dear Charlie’s snubbing of libertarian leaning members of his party did them in – not section 8 people.

          • Anonymous

            let it be a lesson to you then…

          • Anonymous

            You are very misinformed. No one is forced to vote. Many people don’t even vote, and no amount of persuasion would change their minds. I worked for a certain campaign and we never pushed anyone.
            Know of what you speak. People from all walks of life were contacted , and not just “pulling people out of apartments.”
            Shame on you.

        • Anonymous

          I would say the Democrats won and the Republicans lost.

          • Actually, “nobody” won, but the fallout will take another year to become apparent to those who would prefer not to “see.”

      • Guest

        …..

        • Anonymous

          Equality, prejudice, from what I seen and read , with the Liberals,there was just as much.

      • Anonymous

        The democrats won because they got more votes .They didn’t spend their time promoting and passing bills that were unpopular with “the people.”. They won because they didn’t spend their time ticking off voters —women , immigrants , workers , voters, the unemployed, the middle class. …

        • Anonymous

          Yea Immigrants, so the Dems will allow illegals to come here more freely. More Democratic votes.

          • Anonymous

            my father was an immigrant( and so were your fore beareer ) He got here and came here fully legally and became a citizen and then VOTED for decades, so did his WIFE and extended family , so do his children and grand children and NOW great grand child, with more to follow. Yup he endured the same prejudice that is still evident today with the new waves of immigrants. Excellence is the best revenge.!!!

          • Anonymous

            Your right, mine came here legally, had to fill paper work out every year. Is it too much to have Demcrats have other immigrants do things legally? Only reason for this is so they get more votes, by allowing illegal immigrants to stay or someother way.

    • Anonymous

      “We won even though 60% of whites voted for Romney.”

      Who’s “we”?? What percentage of blacks voted for Obama??

      I love how you talk about “inclusion” later in your post, but segregate an entire race of folks at the outset. Your credibility = 0

      • Anonymous

        “Who’s “we”??” we= the majority…

        • Anonymous

          False. The majority, about 178 million, didnt vote at all.

          • Anonymous

            as is their right …

    • Anonymous

      Bet the percentage of white voters who chose Obama is higher in Maine, though. This old white grandma was happy to vote for President Obama both times…and would love to have the opportunity to do it again.

      • Anonymous

        I know many just like you that voted for their paycheck.

        • Guest

          You voted for Romney? Didn’t you vote for him based on what you feel was best for you and those like you?

          • Anonymous

            No.
            I voted for him as the lesser of two evils.

            Of the two, Romney had the tools to save this country from the financial ruin we are about to face, caused by democrats buying votes with taxpayer moneys.

          • Anonymous

            Too bad Romney understood the “problems” of businessmen better than those of average Americans…and couldn’t pick an average American out of a lineup. He might have won more votes.

          • Briney

            He may have had the tools. He just didn’t know where the tool box was.

          • HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Romney himself didn’t know what he stood for. But he seemed to indicate he would be a George W. Bush clone, who severely harmed this country, along with the psychotic GOP.

      • Anonymous

        You’re right as to the percentage of white vote the President won outside the south. He overwhelmingly lost the southern white vote and narrowly carried the non-southern white vote.

        • Anonymous

          The problem with this country IS “the south” stuck in another century .I have they DO seceed!!

      • Anonymous

        President Obama’s share of the popular vote in Iowa, VA and Ohio and Florida is even a little higher than originally stated election night.

    • Anonymous

      Guess we know what Obama voters aren’t :-)

      • Anonymous

        One thing Obama voters aren’t is smart. One thing they are is parasitic. Maine is now on the list of states where the ‘takers’ out number the ‘makers’. And thanks to the Obama supporters, America has become the same way.

        • Anonymous

          Leave then. Bye!

          • Anonymous

            Who’s going to support you?

            cnncomment wrote, in response to DakTo:

            Leave then. Bye!

            Link to comment

          • Anonymous

            Me.

            Simple people paint many people with the same brush.

          • Anonymous

            Only this time it’s one very intelligent, complex lady painting many of you sheep with the same brush.

            cnncomment wrote, in response to DakTo:

            Me.

            Simple people paint many people with the same brush.

            Link to comment

        • Anonymous

          they were smart enough to win.

          • Anonymous

            Wrong. They were dumb enough to vote for the democrat.

            prettyfoolish wrote, in response to DakTo:

            they were smart enough to win.

            Link to comment

        • Anonymous

          The people you call “takers” (because they don’t earn enough money to pay income tax and/or because they receive social services) include elderly people, disabled vets and other disabled people, people who remain unemployed despite LePage’s promises to bring tons of jobs to Maine, and so on. We’re not a wealthy state. That doesn’t mean our citizens are parasites who deserve your sneers.

          • Anonymous

            He represents exactly why his side lost the last election. They did not learn a thing.

          • You mean like the Maine election results in 2010? Yeah.

          • Anonymous

            The Tea Party won in 2010 because there were no desirable candidates in the race. The TP took control of the state and made a mockery of it. We corrected our mistake earlier this month. “Nuff said.

        • Anonymous

          You are very misinformed about many things. Go to southern states that voted for Romney where the poverty and welfare are higher than in the Northeast. More obesity down there,etc. Not too much to emulate from some of those states. Educational outcomes are , on the whole, not as good as in the Northeast.

          • Exactly. The poorest and least-educated states are generally Red States, and the poorest and least-educated voters tend to be GOP voters.

            They hate when you point that out to them.

        • DakTo, a “welfare state” is a state that takes more money from the federal government than it pays in.

          Guess what: the biggest welfare states are Red States, and the biggest donor states are Blue States.

          People who vote GOP are what they claim to hate: welfare queens.

          • Anonymous

            Top 15 Welfare States: 13-of-the-15 are Democrat States
            Posted on November 29, 2011by specfriggintacular
            Interesting: CNBC published the top 15 states in the Nation that consume the MOST in welfare. 13-of-15 are DEMOCRAT states; they went Blue in 2008.
            The BIGGEST US WELFARE STATES

            –Year Researched Data———2009————-2007————2008———-2009

            State——-% of Pop on Welfare—–Spending on Welfare—-Total on Welfare—–Unemp
            #1. California……………3.30%………………$3.28 BILLION………..1,212,893…….11.5%

            #2. Maine………………..2.37%……………….$61.73 MILLION………..31,148……….8.3%

            #3. Tennessee………….2.15%……………..$91.28 MILLION……….133,505……….10.7%

            #4. Massachusetts…….2.09%…………….$295.29 MILLION………136,033………8.2%

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            #6. Wash DC…………..1.99%……………….$18.67 MILLION………..11,806………..10.7%

            #7. New York…………..1.92%………………$1.47 BILLION…………..373,305………8.2%

            #8. Minnesota…………..1.88%………………$106.29 MILLION………98,028…….8.2%

            #9. Washington…………1.86%………………$265.88 MILLION……121,864……..9.4%

            #10. New Mexico……….1.83%………………$58.87 MILLION…….36,322…………..6.5%

            #11. Indiana……………..1.83%………………..$102.27 MILLION…..116,430……….10.6%

            #12. Rhode Island……..1.79%……………….$57.4 MILLION…………..18,839…………..12.1%

            #13. Michigan…………..1.60%………………..$380.93 MILLION……….164,589………14.1%

            #14.Pennsylvania……….1.60%………………$247.29 MILLION………198,666…………8.2%

            #15. Oregon…………….1.55%………………….$83.85 MILLION……….58,831………….12.4%

            http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310?slide=15

            State Spending and Budgets. gov

            Statistic set below: June 17, 2011 for May 2011.[4]
            [edit] Unemployment rate by State or District
            State or District Unemployment rate
            (seasonally adjusted) Monthly percent change
            (=rise in unemployment)
            Puerto Rico 16.0 0.4%
            Nevada 12.1 0.4%
            California 11.7 0.1%
            Rhode Island 10.9 0.0%
            Florida 10.6 0.2%
            Michigan 10.3 0.1%
            Mississippi 10.3 0.1%
            South Carolina 10.0 0.2%
            District of Columbia 9.8 0.2%
            Georgia 9.8 0.0%
            Kentucky 9.8 0.2%
            North Carolina 9.7 0.0%
            Tennessee 9.7 0.1%
            Alabama 9.6 0.3%
            New Jersey 9.4 0.1%
            Idaho 9.4 0.2%
            Oregon 9.3 0.2%
            Arizona 9.1 0.2%
            Connecticut 9.1 0.0%
            Washington 9.1 0.1%
            United States (national)[5] 9.1 0.1%
            Illinois 8.9 0.2%
            Missouri 8.9 0.0%
            Colorado 8.7 0.1%
            Ohio 8.6 0.0%
            West Virginia 8.6 0.2%
            Indiana 8.2 0.0%
            Louisiana 8.2 0.1%
            Delaware 8.0 0.2%
            Texas 8.0 0.0%
            New York 7.9 0.0%
            Arkansas 7.8 0.1%
            Maine 7.7 0.1%
            Massachusetts 7.6 0.2%
            Alaska 7.4 0.1%
            Pennsylvania 7.4 0.1%
            Wisconsin 7.4 0.1%
            Montana 7.3 0.0%
            Utah 7.3 0.1%
            New Mexico 6.9 0.7%
            Maryland 6.8 0.0%
            Kansas 6.6 0.1%
            Minnesota 6.6 0.1%
            Hawaii 6.0 0.1%
            Iowa 6.0 0.0%
            Virginia 6.0 0.1%
            Wyoming 6.0 0.0%
            Vermont 5.4 0.1%
            Oklahoma 5.3 0.3%
            New Hampshire 4.8 0.1%
            South Dakota 4.8 0.1%
            Nebraska 4.1 0.1%
            North Dakota 3.2 0.1%

    • Anonymous

      Oh, no! The Democratic scheme to hide voter fraud is uncovered! I thought it would be easy to hide a lot of black folk voting in rural Maine. Blacks from away would blend into the population of the oldest, whitest electorate in the Union, wouldn’t they?

  • Dadoftoo

    So if he sent a postcard that said only “Thank you for Voting”, would that be harassment?

    • Anonymous

      if it came from him

    • Legal answer —> No.

      Harassment doesn’t consist of one postcard, sent with a message that merely says “thank you for voting.” There’s not a solitary judge in this state that would find such an action to be illegal, or meeting the standard for harassment.

      • Anonymous

        very clever. I look forward to hearing about the results of the mailings BUT that would mean revealing the REAL INTENT of mailing them— hunting for voter fraud—BUSTED !!

        • Webster
          Did
          Not
          Mail
          Any
          Post
          Cards

          He talked about possibly mailing some. He never did.

          Perhaps you’ll get the message.

          • Anonymous

            Webster
            Did
            Not
            See
            Any
            Black
            People
            He

            Is
            A

            Liar

  • Now I’m not condoning what Ol’ Charlie said but why isn’t the ACLU doing anything about the Black Panthers hanging out at polling places? You can’t tell me that’s not intimidation.

    • Millicent

      where, in Maine, were the Black Panthers hanging out?

      • Anonymous

        He did not say in Maine. How about Chicago and other places. Look at the problems in PA, and FL. Why are not the ACLU going after something more serious.

        • Millicent

          where were the Black Panthers hanging out? Legit news sources – something to prove that the Black Panthers were out intimidating voters, because the only story I’ve found is one from Fox News (not considered a ligit source) who made a huge deal about one member of the BP party that was opening doors for people in Philly.

          Also, as this article pertains to Maine, why did the poster bring the Black Panthers into it in the first place?

          • Anonymous

            I was merely pointing out he did not say “Maine” , though the ACLU would be better checking out inconsistancies in other areas, like FL, PA, regardless of what party.

          • Millicent

            which inconsistencies would those be?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

            Here’s just one version of the video. There are more online.

          • Anonymous

            how about the RECENT VIDEO— the one from THIS election; NOT the highly edited Badbreath version from the last election ?

        • Anonymous

          Because Charlie is an easy target that will get them a lot of good press from the liberal media here.

          Crickets will be all you hear when nothing comes of this.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry all the crickets are tied up over at charlies voter fraud forum.

        • Anonymous

          Irrlevant to this discussion.

        • Anonymous

          what “problems” in PA, FLA… you mean the LONG lines intended to discourage voting?? Not to worry— election night, Obama said he was on it , and was going to out an end to that!!

    • Anonymous

      How can it be intimidation ? Once you are in that booth no one can see how you vote .

      • Anonymous

        In the one Philly nieghborhood where some old poll watcher (google the photo) dressed in what he wanted to wear, TEA Party yahoos in tricorner hats would have been the real voter intimadation.

    • Anonymous

      REAL black panthers are all 65 and older. even if they are hanging out at polling places, it won’t be long before they (and me) are gone. Then whom will you point at?

    • Anonymous

      There was a (one, singular) black man standing outside a Philadelphia precinct and he was a designated poll watcher. Please, this is the problem that the Republicans face. Arguments to the voters are never made, it’s always about fear and hysteria and appealing to our baser instincts. It’s not going to help Americans to continue this strategy. Even one of the Fox News hosts was terrified of the graphics on a new “TERROR ALERT” just the other day. It’s getting a touch ridiculous when that happens and her startled reaction could not be covered up. She said how much it scared her! Step back from the fear.

    • Anonymous

      “You can’t tell me that’s not intimidation.”

      Seems to me that a black guy in a predominantly black neighborhood watching people enter the polling place is only intimidating to someone who would rather not see black people vote in the first place.

    • Anonymous

      prove it and don’t just show 1 guy in Philadelphia

    • Anonymous

      Todd did you actually see the videotape of the so called Black Panther “intimidation”. I did. It played all over the airways (But fox is my guess) NO “intimidation” at all to it .One guy ,looked like rent a cop , opening doors for voters .THAT was “IT” –all of it .With some research using your search engine i’ll bet you can find the videotape..

  • Guest

    Good.
    His talked about post card intimidation was wrong.

    • Anonymous

      He shouldn’t be representing anyone. He and his views are reprehensible.

    • Anonymous

      is there something wrong with verifying that these people were legally entitled to vote in the area they did?
      if there is no oversight to the system then what is to stop someone from going from place to place voting for their favorite along the way?

      • Anonymous

        His postcard scheme isn’t a proper way to verify the legality of votes.

        • Anonymous

          His would have been better called, “Postcards from the edge.”

        • Frank Church

          Why is that not proper?

          • Anonymous

            See Wikipedia–“The argument that vote caging should be illegal is that it could disenfranchise qualified voters simply because of the high possibility that data errors in the mailing list and voters’ changing addresses could result in undelivered mail, rather than any problem with their qualifications. The fact that the mailings used to cage voters have had ‘do not forward’ printed on them resulted in disproportionately disfranchising of students away at college, citizens who move often, and soldiers overseas. In addition, targeting certain neighborhoods with a history of voting for one political party while not targeting areas dominated by the opposing party may lead to a racial component in the disqualifications which raises a serious legal issue under the Voting Rights Act.”

          • What you cite has no basis in law, and it has nothing to do with sending post cards to new voters.

          • Anonymous

            BIG SIGH

          • Anonymous

            Also, please see (everybody but Naran): The Brennan Center for Justice Guide to Voter Caging. http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/a_guide_to_voter_caging/

      • Guest

        Sending out postcards was meant to be intimidating.

        • Says who? You? Who makes that determination?

          Meanwhile, he never did send any postcards. He merely suggested that he might. He committed nothing illegal.

        • Anonymous

          and apparently illegal ….

      • Millicent

        the problem is not voter fraud, it’s election fraud which has been widely documented since 2000. Electronic machines flipping votes, “glitches” and breakdowns – then add the redistricting – The one story I read about actual voter fraud from this past election was from Texas – a republican woman who tried to vote at two different polling places and was caught.

        • There are plenty of documented stories on both sides of the partisan line.

          http://www.rnla.org/votefraud.asp

          Here’s just one source.

          • Anonymous

            Really you just got something from MIA.ORG and heaved it out here as proof?
            You people really do got nothing don’t you.

      • Anonymous

        Take a deep breath and look around you. Even a cursory glance should tell those who live in reality that Maine is one of the whitest states there is. Plain old common sense and the fact that virtually NO fraud has been found should lay this nonsense to rest.

      • Anonymous

        been there;done that. Don’t you remember— All past webster “accusation” were proven false.You can only cry wolf so many times

  • StillRelaxin

    As Charlie walks out the door the ACLU gives him a deserved kick in the behind. A well earned and just reward for behavior unbecoming of an American citizen.

    • Wait until they come after your own Free Speech rights. Unless, of course, you don’t care about such things.

      • Anonymous

        What about one’s voting rights?
        (or will this be deleted too?)

        Be vewy, vewy quiet…I’m hunting for unwegistered voters………

        • American citizens have the right to vote. Their votes shouldn’t be cancelled out by fraudulent voters, no matter which side. I believe that photo ID for obtaining a ballot is a good idea. We give ID to obtain a mortgage and a library card. I think our voting rights should be at least as important as those activities.

          • Anonymous

            Banks requiring proof of your identity before giving you thousands of dollars of their money in no way equates to the government requiring the same to exercise your rights as a citizen. If they do ever make this a requirement at some point then the government needs to make it free and relatively simple to get this ID.

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully he will get what he deserves.

  • Anonymous

    he is grilled about being interested in preserving the system that makes america great, and the libs get pissed off because of it.

    I would be suspicious too if i saw a bunch of people show up in a small town that weren’t from there and vote.

    • Anonymous

      And yet he specifically indicated that he was suspicious in part due to their skin color. Prejudice is not part of what makes America great.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, like many dark-skinned people showing up to vote in small Maine towns would only be apparent to Mr. Webster. How come no one else noticed this?

        • Millicent

          no one noticed it, because it didn’t happen.

        • Anonymous

          They didn’t notice it because it was a lie.

    • Anonymous

      All you guys have been saying “well everyone knows everyone in small towns”

      Guess what – no you don’t.

      Just like some of your school mates moved from your town.

      People moved into your town.

      You claim you know them all – wrong.

      I have lived in my town for the last 8 years.

      I live in the country – it is closer to travel to the “next” town then to travel to my own.

      My friends and family also reside in the “next” town.

      My spouse registers the vehicles.

      Pretty much the ONLY time I have been in my “town” was to go vote.

      Your assumption that your a special snowflake and know every last person in your town by sight is lame at best.

      To accuse people of fraud because you don’t know someone is more then ignorant.

      • Charlie was relating incidents reported to him by the voting clerks, in some of the towns to which he was referring. If the voting clerks don’t know a group of new voters, and they think enough of the issue to call him, your argument is with them, not him.

        • Anonymous

          why did voting clerks “report” to him (Webster) but NOT to their REAL boss the SOS , as required by law? THE SOS office said they had no such “reports.”

          PS WEBSTER “related ” nothing . He named no towns and no clerks to give any substance to his accusations .If this is a whisper campaign by these so called “clerks ” VOTERS need to be VERY concerned..I expect voting clerks to act professionally and not as “partisans”. IF they have “suspicions , I expect them to report them to the SOS —NOT to the head of the R party !!!IF the SOS office believes ther is any legitimacy OR is colluding with this conspiracy theory again , the public needs to know.

        • Anonymous

          Um no – He named no town. Meaning he lied about it so he could cause more hate and discontent.

  • Lilla Beane

    Interesting that no one has yet noted that Webster is a) free to say what he thinks, and b) free to mail a postcard to a voter, the MCLU notwithstanding. There’s no crime here, folks, as long as we have free speech. Before you attempt to limit someone else’s speech, you should remember hat some time, on some issue, you too will have views on an issue that put you outside mainstream opinion.

    • Anonymous

      That’s not what free speech means. Free speech doesn’t mean you can say whatever you want without consequence.

      • Lilla Beane

        Non sequitur

        • Millicent

          how so?

          • Lilla Beane

            Not a response, doesn’t follow.

          • Millicent

            it does follow, you’re the one who brought free speech in to the conversation – go back and re-read the posts.

      • Lilla Beane

        You’re right, of course. I propose that CW, for his deviance from your ideals, be ignored. If that doesn’t work, why then, let’s SHUN him!

        • Anonymous

          or try to sue him as the ACLU plans to do.

          • I hope they do, because they’re going to end up paying for their own expenses, as well as Webster’s. Mighty expensive way to get egg on their faces.

          • Anonymous

            well you defended him before and it was webster who ended up with egg all over his face .He didn’t learn his lesson Maybe legal consequences will help hi to “learn ” it.

    • Anonymous

      While Mr. Webster is free to say what he thinks, the issue here is whether his “investigation” violates the Voting Rights Act. Mailing a postcard for the sole purpose of checking voter addresses is not speech.

      • Lilla Beane

        “Mailing a postcard for the sole purpose of checking voter addresses is not speech.” I didn’t know that. I thought the postal service was available to everyone; that is, everyone with postage.

        • Anonymous

          Protected speech may not encompass Charlie’s sole purpose in mailing postcards for address confirmation. I haven’t read the Voting Rights Act, but that seems to be the contention of the MCLU. Just because it’s mailed, doesn’t make it protected speech. Just ask the guy recently convicted of sending the Governor threatening letters.

          • Webster mailed no post cards.

          • Anonymous

            He also saw no black people

          • Anonymous

            first it was busloads of student now it is blacks … could accusations of the middle class showing up be far behind !!

        • Anonymous

          apparently it is strategy that has been used and IT IS illegal..

    • Anonymous

      And, he has the right to have access to the new voter registration cards? Why?

      • Lilla Beane

        “Rights”? We all have access to these records.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe it’s true for a minute, but why would somebody/somebodies come to Maine to attempt to win it for the Republican party? That just doesn’t make sense. Maine is usually not a Republican toss up state. *shrugs*

    • Anonymous

      you have it backwards,

      • Millicent

        and since Maine is not normally a “toss up” state, why would they come to Maine to boost the numbers for Obama?

        • Fahqueue

          It’s not about Obama, it is about local state reps who lost by a handful of votes in districts all across the state

          • And why pray tell, would a gang of out of state black people want to influence district races in Maine?

          • First, I couldn’t care less about peoples’ skin color. However, that said, here’s the answers:

            A) because they were being paid to do the job.

            B) because they were told it was “for the good of the little people.”

          • Guest

            Masses of black people invading small Maine towns to fraudulently vote.
            The tall tales people are resorting to telling.
            The GOP is desperate and it’s showing.

          • Anonymous

            They continue to show how sad/pathetic. they are. Delusional.

          • Sounds like wild conjecture, though let’s just say this is true. What district races and what towns did these rogues show up in…and who supposedly funded it?

            If Charlie and others want to be taken seriously, proof is helpful. “I heard from my cousin’s sister’s son-in-law’s girlfriend that there were a bunch o’ black people in some unnamed town” unsurprisingly gives off the impression that it is tin foil hat material. It might work for a dyed in the wool partisan, though not someone with any amount of objectivity.

          • I don’t have any specifics I can offer you. From what I’ve been told, Charlie was relating both incidents that he witnessed, and some that were reported to him by poll watchers and clerks in Maine towns. I hope the clerks check out every new registration, as they should, to make sure the votes were valid.

            Regardless, there were many reports of voter and election fraud across the country. Here’s one site with a compilation.

            http://www.rnla.org/votefraud.asp

            .

          • Well…such a story is easily verifiable, given the amount of witnesses at a polling location. He should be giving times and locations, and corroborations from multiple witnesses. If he would do this – what a normal, intelligent person would do, instead of this amateur hour garbage, we would not be where we are today.

          • He wasn’t in a court of law, he was in a media interview. He had no obligation to offer any details at the time. We do not know what his plans were for the future, and whether he will gather information and ask for a further investigation. All we know is what he said during the interview. Nothing he said in the interview is legally actionable. The ACLU and the Brennan folks are grandstanding for facetime.

          • Anonymous

            Naran ,he completely MADE IT UP OUT of thin air .

          • Hopefully his plan for the future involves burners, and not politics.

          • Anonymous

            ROFL

          • Anonymous

            You mean the ONE reported incident in lewiston/auburn where 2 senior elderly women’s voting was questioned BY ONE poll watcher who didn’t have the courage to push it? .And that ONE incident got morphed into “blacks showing up all over Maine “in charlie websters mind? The guy is a NUT.

          • Anonymous

            “I don’t have any specifics I can offer you.”

            Thats pretty much a given.

          • Millicent

            Strategic Allied Consulting – I suggest you Google that.

          • Anonymous

            Except that it never happened.

          • Anonymous

            consider this: Charlie made it ALL UP!!!!AGAIN !!!He can’t separate reality from conspiracy .Isn’t it odd only Charlie “saw ” them? NO ONE else reported any such actiivity —particularly the local officials at the polls in charge of elections, His “accusation” got him on the national news the first time around. He was just grandstanding again,.

          • Millicent

            um, cite where it’s illegal to pay people for working voter drives – and also please cite where they were told “for the good of the little people” .

            now, in some states you can’t pay someone based on how many registrations they turn in – but it doesn’t mean they can’t be paid at all.

          • Millicent

            and again…why did you not report these supposed “illegal activities” – which, I’m still trying to figure what part of them were illegal since you haven’t elaborated on them.

        • Frank Church

          In May thru July, 2008, I meet several “community organizers” from NYC, Chicago & something like pittsburgh, who were brought in by the unions to “organize” help inform voters of their rights etc etc etc. The ones I met were going downeast from Ellsworth to Calais..

          They met and rented the space where Massimo’s bakery is now – owned by the liberal Kellys – many folks arrived, got their instructions, moved on for the next group.

          • Millicent

            so informing voters of their rights is not legal? – and if there were illegal activities going on, did you report them? What is your proof?

          • Anonymous

            He is lying.

          • Anonymous

            So?

          • Frank Church

            So who was paying them (about $2k /wk), funding the travel, hotel, food? Pretty smart – out of state grassroots socialists. You wouldn’t believe it.

          • Anonymous

            the organization who hired them perhaps?? What IS your point ?

            I know this might be a foreign concept to you IF you are an R but voter registration drives happen ….ALL the time, everywhere!! IT’s a patriotioc activity . Some even VOLUNTEER to do it ..OMG NO… the horrors !!!
            PS it is called DEMOCRACY not sociaiism!!!

          • It’s good to know ones rights. Isn’t it? Is the constitution liberally biased too? :D

          • Anonymous

            You don’t even know what you are talking about. Organizing for America was not union run. It was the re-election committee to elect Obama. You don’t know what you are talking about. You are lying.

          • Frank Church

            You said it – thank you for confirming that there were outsiders in Maine to manage the vote for Obama, not only in 2008 but again in 2012. Like people can’t make up their own minds.

          • Anonymous

            Oh my no. You get things wrong. So many of who live in Bangor and area volunteered. We were Maine people. It was great. So many wonderful dedicated people.
            Yes, it was awful how the No on same sex marrriage folks brought in so much money and people from out of state to try and defeat it. And guess what….they lost.

      • Anonymous

        Duh! I do have it backwards. I knew what I wanted to say, but screwed it up royally. That’s what I get for trying to post after working all night and staying up all day. :) zzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Anonymous

    Does any one know the actual towns this happened in?

    • Anonymous

      Never Neverland is one.

    • Anonymous

      No, because it never actually happened.

  • westshores

    Charlie Webster made a dim- witted comment that was followed by an even worse plan for an investigation into the situation because he’s not very intelligent- he’s not a racist. I think many of us wonder what would have happened had he or anyone else called for an investigation into whether or not “dozens of white people” who were unfamiliar to local municipal officials had voted.

    • The ACLU would still be chasing after a grandstanding moment and some press attention, just elsewhere in the state.

      • westshores

        As a life long registered Republican I can’t help but wonder if our party has a manufacturing facility for idiots that play right into the hands of organizations like the ACLU. We can do better.

        • People can differ with Webster all they want, but nobody will ever recruit candidates or raise money as well as he has, as chairman. Anybody who thinks it’s an easy job, step right up.

          • westshores

            That’s true, but what good does that do, if he kills the party in other ways? It’s all for nothing. It’s like a plane with 4 good engines and no wings….it won’t fly.

          • Please feel free to offer your volunteer services to the next chairperson of the GOP.. they need the help, the services, and the assistance. Thanks.

          • westshores

            Why do you think the Republican Party ended up with Charlie in the first place. Most people know better these days. The political environment is hostile and vicious-I’d never expose my family to this crap would you?

          • I have been a political activist for decades, and my family has no problem with speaking their minds. If we do not use our First Amendment and Constitutional rights, we will lose them. One has a choice in life — either exercise your spine, or the opposite. I know which one I prefer.

          • westshores

            I was a social studies teacher out of college. I love the whole political deal, my wife …not so much.

          • I hope you can see “Lincoln” on the big screen before it goes to DVD. I think you’d enjoy the film.

          • westshores

            I read the Kearn’s book.So did President Obama I guess! I try to go to the movies when I’m convinced that the seats will be pretty much empty. I’ve always been torn between Lincoln and Washington regrading our greatest President. I recently read Jason Emerson’s new biography of Robert T Lincoln-“Giant In The Shadows.” It was excellent. Also read Ron Chernow’s new Washington biography this summer. I’ll get to that movie soon. Have a good weekend…

          • You, too. The weekday matinee is a must for “Lincoln,” if you can manage it. You will be amazed.

          • Anonymous

            Excellent books. We are going to see the movie “Lincoln” next week. The theatres are less crowded towards the beginning of the week.

          • Anonymous

            Having read Ron White’s A. Lincoln recently, I can only imagine what he, Lincoln, would think of the gop now trying to disenfranchise so many people of color after so much was given to free them.

          • Anonymous

            Yes…bending over exercises your spine. You must have a very strong back by now.

          • Anonymous

            “Why do you think the Republican Party ended up with Charlie in the first place.” …. because only a handful showed up to elect him .

          • westshores

            Good point…that’s the same issue with the caucus system. Lot’s of people are not going to show up, but might want to vote in another manner.

          • Anonymous

            He Raised NOTHING. He simply ruled in a time of citizen united , where outside money was dumped , like manna from heaven ,into ALL states by well heeled billionaires with their OWN agenda .(not Maine’s) in mind. Take a look at what was raised INSIDE Maine ,if you want to be honest . He helped you LOOSE a Senate seat and both houses in Augusta with his nuttiness

      • Anonymous

        just WHO is grandstanding?? the initials seem to be CW

  • Lord Whiteman

    Websters blatant attempt to intimidate people with brown skin is inexcusable.

    • Anonymous

      Thats a bunch of crap. In Small town Maine peole know everyone who lives there. If a bunch of Black people showed up to vote and no Black people live in your town, They would stand out.. It is not a Racist issue it is a voter fraud issue.. I personally don’t like Webster yet this is a whitch hunt to put fear into anyone questioning voter fraud.. I grew up in a small Maine town, There was one Black person in a town of 1200 people. Just because I noticed he was Black doesn’t make me racist.

      • Lord Whiteman

        So you know everyone who lives in those trailers on the Dairy farms and poultry farms?
        I suppose you also spend time at all the woods camps the paper mills have set up all over rural Maine..
        You might also need to investigate native Americans and the deep French who live in Maine. After a bottle of ACB, they might look black to some folks.

        • Anonymous

          green cards don’t give them the right to vote.

          • Lord Whiteman

            Who said they have green cards? Most of the dairy and egg house workers are US citizens.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t believe so.

          • Lord Whiteman

            The apple and blueberry pickers are mostly temp. contract workers but house keepers, (slashers) and dairy farm workers are mostly US citizens.

          • Anonymous

            HE MADE IT UP !!!

          • Prove it.

          • Anonymous

            no he needs to prove his accusation are TRUE .

          • Millicent

            again….he said it himself. He made the accusations with out basis. He had no proof. It’s in the article.

          • Not yet, but that hasn’t stopped the People’s Republic of Portland from trying.

      • Lord Whiteman

        I forgot to mention all the brown skinned people who work as servants in the homes of mucky mucks long the coast where the Republican’s get most of there resident political donations.

      • Anonymous

        There was no “bunch of black people that showed up to vote”.

        You’ve been lied-to.

        Yessah

      • Anonymous

        Given Webster’s complete lack of credibility on the issue of voter fraud, his most recent comments should be taken as more nonsense. As usual, he gave no proof other than his anecdotal hearsay standard. The fact that these voters were black is just another log on the fire of his stupidity.
        Rather than defend the tenuous shreds of truth in his comments, wouldn’t you rather question how this genius was elected head of the GOP?

      • Anonymous

        Wrong – no you don’t.
        You do not know everyone who lives within your town lines by sight.
        You didn’t when you were a kid and you don’t now.
        I

      • Anonymous

        Except all those “black people voting” were a figment of Charlie Websters imagination, only . He totally made up the accusation BUT worse then that he has YOU believing it is TRUE.. The fool fooling the fool is pretty foolish!!

  • Anonymous

    Do you think they might also investigate interference with the electoral process? Just asking the question.

  • Ol Charlie….Maine’s version of Joe McCarthy…”I have a list right here, etc.”

    • Frank Church

      Hmm.. keep talking .. McCarthy was right. (verified records from collapsed Russia)

      • Anonymous

        Were they found in the basement of the twin towers after an alien-controlled team of unionized demolition experts pointed a mirror at it and focused the sun’s rays into melting the support structure while flying 1:1 scale radio controlled planes into it using the force?

        • Frank Church

          Let’s meet for coffee and chat about this..

          • Anonymous

            Love to. That said…ever since I read your comment I’ve been researching it and the ONLY things I can find to ‘validate’ your comment are from conservative/ultra-conservative blogs and message boards..always referring to theses documents, usually referring to some guy who is trying to sell a book about them…however I’ve yet to see a single copy of these alleged documents. I’d LOVE to be proven wrong because cold-war era stuff is something I’m incredibly interested in.

            If you could provide some links or something that shows copies of these documents, that would be awesome.

          • If it’s on the internet or in one of them informative chain email letters, it is fact. The internet editors don’t allow non-facts to be published you know.

          • Anonymous

            Seems like you will be waiting a long time for that link or links. Likely an extreme right wing site.

          • Frank Church

            If you’re serious (or just want to appear sincere), here is a link to a book review, which didn’t take long to find, though it was many years ago that I was aware of this info. I hadn’t read this book or review but other articles back in the Clintonista days, when everything was free and easy with the media and evaluating roots and causes. If you’re too young, Moynihan was probably the last liberal to be trusted.
            —————-

            That (communism was a minor and insignificant in the US) was the story of American Communism and its foes, as successfully propagated by the nation’s dominant liberals, and it remained, as we have noted, the conventional wisdom for forty years. Indeed, it is in some ways the conventional wisdom even today, for younger generations (including many conservatives) have never heard any other version of the facts.

            But the year 1995 was an epochal one for the study of American Communism. For in that year, thanks to the insistence of the late Democratic Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, who had long specialized in intelligence matters, some 2,900 documents collectively known as “the Venona papers” (a deliberately meaningless code phrase) were de-classified and published. These were radio messages from the t.. .. ..

            http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1375/article_detail.asp

          • Anonymous

            I had replied to this saying I’d like that, and asking you for links to the actual documents you speak of…but that vitriolic post was deleted.

          • Anonymous

            Okay so it shows your reply, and that I replied…but when i click I only see your ‘lets meet for coffee’ comment. I think Disqus is starting to throw up from all the activity on this story…

    • Anonymous

      too many john birch society meetings …

  • Anonymous

    You know if you just drop the issue, he will just fade away. Too bad the ACLU would not.

  • Anonymous

    I have a question for the Liberals. Not the Democrats or Republicans
    Why are the Liberals so bent on protecting Voter Fraud?.. They seem to swear up and down they are the ones looking out for the people all the while incourage cheating.. Why is that liberals?

    • Millicent

      please show evidence of voter fraud.

      • Anonymous

        They cant. The keep their proof filed in the same garbage can as their solutions.

    • Guest

      What voter fraud? The non existent fraud Charlie said exists and the other Charlie couldn’t find any evidence of?

    • Anonymous

      Sorry to burst your supposition with facts. The Secretary of State (remember him?) found no legitimacy concerning Webster’s accusations. Further, on the national level, GOP stalwarts in Florida have admitted that they moved to limit early voting to insure a lower turnout of minorities. You are intitled to your own opinion, but you are not intitled to “your own” facts.

      • Actually, you’re mistaken. Charlie Summers found that some of the college students either needed tor register their vehicles in Maine, or vote absentee in their actual home towns in other states. By failing to register their vehicles in Maine, they had not fulfilled the requirements to be considered a resident for voting purposes.

        • Anonymous

          voter suppression. GET it?

    • Anonymous

      What voter fraud – the kind that Charlie Webster makes up?

      The kind that Charlie Summers cannot find?

      That Voter Fraud?

      Voter Fraud = Snipe Hunt for GOP dolts.

      Yessah

    • Anonymous

      YOU MEAN THE RePUBLICAN FOUND GUIlty in Maine of voter fraud?

    • Frank Church

      If there’s no fraud then whats the problem with verifying who you are.
      Do you claim racism every time you use your credit card? Businesses are supposed to verify your signature. etc etc etc

    • Anonymous

      SHOW proof of any significant voter fraud and then we will talk.

    • Anonymous

      “Why are the Liberals so bent on protecting Voter Fraud?”

      This question falls in the same category as:

      “When did you stop beating your wife…?”

  • Anonymous

    Horrible legacy you’ve left for your children, Charlie.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently it’s only free speech if liberals want to talk.

    • Anonymous

      Apparently these mailings may constitute a violation of the voting rights act and not protected speech.

      • On what legal basis?

        Meanwhile, there were no mailings. He merely suggested he was thinking of sending postcards. Is thinking out loud now a crime, in PC World?

        • Anonymous

          Ask the guy who just got sent to jail for 6 years for “thinking out loud” about Lepage.

  • Anonymous

    If a UMO student has a Mass. license claiming residency in Springfield, but rents an apartment in Stillwater, what is to prevent him/her from voting absentee in Mass. and in person at Stillwater? This is the question and the approach Webster should have used.

    • Anonymous

      I have a car and beer in the fridge — what’s preventing me from driving drunk?

      The ability to break the law isn’t the same thing as breaking the law.

      • Anonymous

        If your car is in the fridge, I pray you have no license.

    • Anonymous

      He did and he came up with NADA

  • Anonymous

    tombstones have mail boxes?

  • Frank Church

    Give me a break ! Both the ACLU and BDN for continuing this non story. As part of the government ,we used returned mail to validate and investigate welfare frauds and other things. These ACLU tactics are right out of the subversive communist take-over tactics.

    • It’s clear that Maine’s ACLU only supports Free Speech when they agree with said Free Speech.

      Charlie isn’t elected, and he’s not running for public office. He asked a question. Supposedly, asking questions in this country isn’t a crime. At least, for now it’s not.

      • Anonymous

        Mailing postcards for the sole purpose of checking on voter registration is probably not protected speech.

        • Prove it. We’ll wait.

          Every direct mail company in America would be out of business, if what you say were true.

          Meanwhile, Webster mailed no postcards. He merely discussed the possibility that he might. That is not illegal.

          • Anonymous

            No they wouldn’t. They use bulk-rate which doesn’t include return service.

          • Anonymous

            Again, “for the sole purpose of checking on voter registration” and for purposes of Voting Rights Acts violations. I’m pretty sure Charlie’s the one who’ll “have to prove it” is protected speech if he’s charged with a Voting Rights Act violation.

          • There is no basis on which to charge him. He made statements during a press interview. That’s it. If that’s an actionable offense, we’ll need a lot more prisons in America.

            He only talked about sending post cards. He never sent any post cards. Talking is not the same as “doing.”

          • Anonymous

            gee and how will we know if he really DOES it?? well I suppose his mailman will know .

            Let me try out THIS conspiracy theory . The right tried to suppress the vote thru various means including accusation (but no proven reality) of voter fraud . Asked to PROVE significant evidence of voter fraud they couldn”t , because it doesn’t exist . BUT some are stiil convinced it really does exist and are seeking to actually “prove” it. to justify further voter suppression laws .

            Aha enter the secret post card strategy ( not a secret any more …thanks to CHARLIE) Post cards go out thruout the land to try to PROVE voter fraud. You don’t think Charlie came up with the idea on his own, do you? Everyone across the land who gets a “thank you for voting post card,”now knows they have been targetted for potential “voter fraud”and they also know WHO is targetting them (the needed return address is the giveaway)That will really tick off voters even MORE . I think ALL SOS across the land should be compelled to “WARN” voters and ask them to to report such post card schemes as a violation of the VOTERS rights act — BUSTEDI.

            .How a returned post card “proves” fraud is beyond me BUT that is neither here nor there (I have moved many times since I registered to vote decades ago ).

    • Anonymous

      It is illegal when you do it with voters.

  • Anonymous

    Is Charlie Webster a criminal?

    No

    Charlie Webster is just criminally stupid and criminally bigoted.

    That said – throw the book at him.

    Yessah

    • Anonymous

      Could not agree more. Is that the best the Maine Republican Party could do ? Shameful.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not kidding…. does anyone know where in Maine this was supposed to have happened? So on the other hand he just outright lied.

    • Anonymous

      It DIDNT happen.

      • Anonymous

        I am being sarcastic. The man is looney tunes.

  • Anonymous

    Good. These Tea Party jokers need to be taught a lesson.

    It’s not enough to make baseless, inflammatory, nationally embarrassing, and racially-charged statements like his, and then later say “Sorry about that.

    He should have been canned on the spot and not allowed permission to leave when he he’s good and ready.

    • Yeah — no asking questions and Free Speech, not for conservatives.
      This’ll show ’em.

      • Anonymous

        “no asking questions and Free Speech…”

        If there was impropriety there is a process that involves the Sec. of State’s office triggering an investigation. Did Charlie avail himself of this legal avenue? He apparently availed himself, rashly, I think, as he has never impressed me as being all that savvy, of an ad hoc “investigation” which he himself later apologized for (perhaps when realizing he was stepping a bit too close to outright violation of federal voting statutes). This isn’t about free speech. This isn’t about “no asking questions…” This is about the rule of law, and a cowboy who maybe got a little too big for his britches… Your faithfulness to the party loyalist is admirable but misplaced… Charlie has been an embarrassment to the GOP in Maine, and a lot of people know that… he’s out of there…

  • Anonymous

    Do you suppose Charlie has the nerve to ask the state GOP to fund his lawyer’s bill?
    My guess is he does. I hope the party isn’t dumb enough to do it.

  • Bill Cat

    Sorry, Charlie, the elections are over. No more making comments and then reworking them to change the meaning. Fail. In his latest statement, he was quoted as saying: “I know you think you understood what I said, but I don’t think you relize that what I said wasn’t what I meant.”

  • It’s finally happened — some people really DO think that asking questions should be a Federal Offense.
    [/sarcasm]

    The ACLU and the Brennan Justice folks need to find a better use of their time.

    The day that asking questions is an actionable offense, is the day we kiss the Constitution and the Bill of Rights goodbye.

    • Anonymous

      No one is saying that asking a question should be a federal offense. When you lie to make a point, you don’t have a point at all.

      • The ACLU and the Brennan Justice folks seem to think Charlie asking a question and talking about sending a postcard should be grounds for investigation and prosecution. I can’t wait to see their legal basis.

        • Guest

          ………….ugh

          • Your comment is nothing but conjecture and speculation masquerading as fact. You have no proof, verification, or basis for the statements you’ve made.

          • Millicent

            lol, that’s pretty much what Charlie Webster said about his own comments.

          • Anonymous

            “Your comment is nothing but conjecture and speculation masquerading as
            fact. You have no proof, verification, or basis for the statements
            you’ve made.”

            Its funny because the EXACT same thing can be said about Charlie’s allegations.

          • Guest

            she’s a bully^^^ NRS

          • Anonymous

            Since Nov 6th she has gotten particularly nasty.

          • Frank Church

            Voter caging is a bunch of baloney. It’s only partisan if folks who vote illegally vote for democrats.

    • Anonymous

      he didn’lt ask questions; he made accusations—– as if they WERE true —with no proof. .AGAIN

  • Anonymous

    Words have consequences and one has to take responsibility for what one says and accept the consequences of ones actions. To deny the truth of why he said what he said is extreme cowardice. The other comment that have is to Charlie directly. Dear Charlie, Please DO send out those cards because I have a very strong feeling that you will find out the only voter fraud may have been by your own party if what happened in the rest of the country is any indication. But of course being who you are that would be covered up. It will be too soon if I have to hear your name again except at the end of a federal investigation and an indictment. Good riddance!

  • Anonymous

    As much as I would like to see his name dropped from news stories, if he is found guilty of a crime–sounds like a distinct possibility–then throw the book at him as a warning to all the other Rove and ALEC types.

    • On what legal basis? Asking a question, and talking about sending a postcard? Good luck with that endeavor.

      • Guest

        86’d because of uncleanliness

        • I think you’d be hard-pressed to find any court that would agree with the premise. Good luck, however. The ACLU and the Brennan Center will be happy to take your donations.

          • Anonymous

            It appears it has been well known R strategy that has been MADE illegal .

      • Anonymous

        Voter caging is illegal – there is your legal basis.

        Please try to keep up.

        Yessah

      • Anonymous

        AS head of the Republican party hein my opinion knowingly and with forethought made false accusation … YET AGAIN The embarrassment of being proven wrong last time didn’t act to stop him… I’d say more serious LEGAL consequences are “called for” ,NOW ,if for no other reason then to “set an example ” and prevent OTHERS from wasting taxpayers time and dollars on false accusations.

        This taxpayer is sick of his antics . And I want to make sure they NEVER happen again and someone thinks twice before falsely INTERFERING with the VOTING process , again.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a big fan of Charlie Webster but I’ll take him over the weasels in the ACLU. The ACLU are scoundrels who represent NAMBLA (an organization made up of men who molest young boys) and are among the lowest of the low.

    • Millicent

      http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/aclu-statement-defending-free-speech-unpopular-organizations

      In the United States Supreme Court over the past few years, the American Civil Liberties Union has taken the side of a fundamentalist Christian church, a Santerian church, and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. In celebrated cases, the ACLU has stood up for everyone from Oliver North to the National Socialist Party. In spite of all that, the ACLU has never advocated Christianity, ritual animal sacrifice, trading arms for hostages or genocide. In representing NAMBLA today, our Massachusetts affiliate does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children.

      *more at the link.

      Freedom of speech is for all, even when we find it disgusting – but freedom of speech can also have consequences. Thinking before you speak is good advice,- advice Charlie Webster should take.

      • Webster committed nothing illegal. He spoke about reports he’d heard, and about potential plans to send some post cards. That’s it. The ACLU has no legal basis for any kind of investigation. If they’re lucky, the judge will throw it out before they get charged for Webster’s costs due to a frivolous lawsuit.

        • Millicent

          The ACLU has *asked* the Justice Dept. to do an investigation – it doesn’t mean that the JD will.

          • The ACLU and the Brennan Justice organization should be spending their time on actual wrongdoing, not with frivolous attempts to intimidate American citizens merely expressing their own opinions. Their sponsors should be displeased with the waste of staff time and resources.

          • Millicent

            frivolous, is something Charlie should know something about. How much time and resources has he used up chasing his own tail?

          • Anonymous

            The justice department among other things investiagates violation of the voter rights act . a very serious matter . I suspect they will be VERY busy .. and lots of bills in R run states will be over turned.and found in violation of the voters rights act..

          • Millicent

            and I hope that is the case – and Charlie gets his bum handed to him.

      • Anonymous

        The ACLU will defend child molesters but not Christians. For decades, they have maintained an anti-Christian/pro-Muslim stance and it continues to strengthen. By the way, the ACLU’s defense of NAMBLA is not ‘freedom of speech’ – it’s a sickening attempt to legitimize child molestation.

        • Millicent

          reading comprehension – fail.

          • Anonymous

            There is no failure in my comprehension of the fact that the ACLU has consistently proven to be an anti-Christian organization. You fail in terms of comprehending (or bothering to check) their record.

          • JohnR

            Just because they do not, as the CONSTITUTION does not, allow for the PROMOTION of your CULT (CHRISTIANITY) as the NATIONS RELIGION. I suggest you read or reread the Constitution and it’s amendments. See the difference between them and you is they actually have read and understand the Constitution.

          • Anonymous

            You discredit yourself and everything you wrote by describing Christianity as a ‘cult.’ You fail to recognize the fact that the ACLU will pull out all of the stops to defend and promote Muslims while simultaneously persecuting (and prosecuting) Christians and Jews. As for the Constitution, I have spent my entire life immersed in it.

          • JohnR

            Mad Dog enjoy your cult and no one is trying to take away your right to be cultist, or your Xmas, by the way I saw your flock heading for the paddock, you better try to catch up……. baa baaaaaaa. LMFAO!

          • Anonymous

            They are ALL cults, all of them.

          • Millicent

            it is a cult. Definition:
            1: formal religious veneration : worship
            2
            : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
            3
            : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
            4
            : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator
            5
            a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fadb : the object of such devotionc : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion

          • Anonymous

            Do you also categorize Islamism as a cult? In some countries, you’d be beheaded for that. Meanwhile, most Christians I know would pray for you. Go ahead and offer up some snappy mock and ridicule – I’m fine with that.

            Oh…and by the definition outlined above, Athiesm meets the defintion of a cult. (5a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fadb : the object of such devotionc : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion.)

            Good luck!

          • Millicent

            I believe all religions are cults. Atheism in general does not fall under that category. Atheists have no devotion to religion as they don’t believe in any god. The majority of Atheists don’t congregate. Nor does the majority of Atheists try to tell others how to worship or live their lives. There are some Atheists who do gather, and do try to promote Atheism, they are a small minority – and would fall under cult status. Most of us however do not do this.

            I’ve been insulted and ridiculed by Christians for not holding the belief that God exists. I’ve been told some pretty horrible things. Those people I don’t feel are following the teachings of the Bible – nor their God – I know the Bible, I’ve read it, and I went to church when I was young – I rejected it due to the hypocrisy, anger and hatred I felt (and still do feel) it caused.

            One can live a good life, be a good person and not believe in any god. Go ahead and pray for me if you wish – but you can keep it to yourself – by proclaiming that you are doing so, is still pushing your religion on to me, – and I choose to live with out it.

          • Anonymous

            Oh no. They don’t support sheep who base their core values imaginary people *gasp*

          • Millicent

            here’s a list of the Christians that the ACLU has represented –

            http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/

            it’s obvious you didn’t bother to check –

    • JohnR

      They even came to the defense of the worlds largest hot air machine, Rush Limbaugh. What part of this do you find offensive American Civil Liberties Union, oh wait……. I got it because it’s got the word “UNION” in the name must be bad……………………..ROFLMAO!

      • Anonymous

        ACLU = Anti Christian Liberals Union

  • Michael Spaulding

    What a pant load of compost. Free speech is gone in this country if any mention of race by a conservative is hate speech or in some way derogatory. Webster did neither but must now endure thee wrath of the politically correct crowd. Sometimes it is what it is and investigation is not needed just because race is involved. The plain fact is Maine is one of the whitest States in America and an excess amount of black vote MAY indicate improprieties and is more deserving of investigation than Webster’s comments. We need a return to reality and sanity.

    • Anonymous

      A plainer fact is that Mr. Webster had lost most of his credibility with his previous unsubstantiated voter fraud claims. His latest claims are again based on anecdotal and hearsay evidence. That’s one reason he should be ignored.
      If the only hackles raised by his comment on a suspiciously large number of blacks voting in rural Maine have to do with political correctness, your racist meter has malfunctioned. Free speech is not “gone in this country”. Boneheaded racist comments by Webster being called out as such should let you know that it is alive and well. Political correctness would have us not discussing this at all.

      • The ACLU and the Brennan Justice folks want him investigated and prosecuted.

        I think you’re arguing with the wrong side on this one.

    • Anonymous

      Making up lies about black people attempting voter fraud in rural Maine and using that lie to engage illegal voter suppression is NOT “free speech”.

      You have no evidence of “an excess amount of black vote”.

      You are free to “speechify” that nonsense all you want – but don’t expect anyone to take you seriously or stop people from thinking of the word “bigotry” every time this type of “free speech” is expressed.

      Yessah

      • You have no evidence that Charlie lied, or that he “made up” anything. You can find a dead squirrel and call it a mink coat, but it won’t keep you any warmer.

        • Anonymous

          Where are all these alleged “black people” – and what towns did they “invade” to commit voter fraud?

          You are defending a lie.

          Good luck with that.

          Yessah

        • Millicent

          Charlie said so himself – it’s right in the article “. However, my comments were made without proof of wrongdoing “

        • Anonymous

          and he can TRY to prove us wrong, BUT he won;t because he made it all up, to try to get on national news again.

    • Anonymous

      “We need a return to reality and sanity.” When the extremists and dolts in the Republican Party are laughed, or driven, or run out on a rail… we might get some reality and sanity… The legality of Webster’s actions are being called into question… You repubs are all about “protecting the vote…” except when it involves one of your own apparently… His proposed actions may be in violation of Federal voting law… Pant load of compost, indeed.

    • Anonymous

      If your thoughts and words here represent “a return to reality and sanity”, this state is in real trouble.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like you share Charlie’s fantasy.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately Chuckie boy is the poster boy for the repubs not just here in Maine, but across the nation. Whether it’s legal or not, the aim is to discredit, libel, character besmirch, missinform, lie, cheat, and rig everything they can to rob elections. All while point the finger the other way. traitors of democracy.

  • Anonymous

    Webster is correct, just not PC, shouild have never mentioned race. The Dems need all of the illegal votes they can get.

  • Anonymous

    Because you’re wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Charlie Webster’s comments after the election hold significance only if he thought he was planting seeds for future voter suppression, and I think that is plausible despite the clumsiness of his efforts. It also might be that Charlie, like many of his fellow Republicans, believe that somehow the election was stolen. I think Charlie just said what he thought based on what someone told him. Charlie doesn’t seem as clever as the slicker ALEC and Maine Heritage Policy Council types.

  • Anonymous

    I love how you can’t tell someone that their lying to the American people about our President is unpatriotic (comment magically vanishes)….but you can tell people that Obama is going to take your free speech rights away _all day long_ and nothing happens.

    Interesting…someone looking out for the managing editor of asmainegoes here (Naran)?? I should send out some post cards….

  • Anonymous

    Good to hear! It’s well overdue to “Turn up the Heat” on Charlie’s butt…

  • BonzoDog1

    I’d rather see the ACLU join in a civil lawsuit with AARP and the NAACP charging the American Legislative Exchange Council under the Racketeering in Corrupt Organizations law with a nationwide conspiracy to illegally deny millions of Americans their legal right to vote. Because that’s what they did.
    And seeing those weasels testify under oath would be Must Watch TV.

    • Anonymous

      My thoughts exactly!

    • Anonymous

      The League of Women’s Voters has taken a few states to court over their newly enacted laws, and won in some cases. Not all, but some…

  • Anonymous

    I am going to ask the Feds to investigate a ham sandwich,then ask a grand jury to indict it.

    • fourCatssoon

      Stupid comment.

    • Anonymous

      Are you comparing Charlie Webster to a ham sandwich?

      • Anonymous

        Like, noooo, Saying that anything can be asked to be investigated by the Feds, including a ham sandwich

        • Anonymous

          Glad you cleared that up. If Charlie read these comments, and he probably won’t, being compared to a ham sandwich is sort of ego deflating.

  • BigPaw

    The “True Believers ” like Charlie just can’t comprehend that they are a dwindling minority. It has to be fraud or witchcraft…there is no other answer in their uber patriotic, all white (except Cain, West, Steele, and Ron Christie) aging world.

  • Anonymous

    I will ask the question again……what is worse:
    Someone (webster) suspects voter fraud by african Americans in Maine…(its not rocket science, Maine has a .08% African American population) certainly a little higher in Portland..SO a very active african american voting in RURAL maine which normally is quite light all of a sudden is very heavy with walk in registrations this election cycle….someone asks the question…….whats the problem…..

    OR>>>>Someone brings in African americans into an area, not as a legitimate ‘get to the polls’ but in an attempt to effect an election..using african americans…..and organizations who are knowingly using african americans in this way……arranging transportation, paying them…We dont know this is the case, but if it finds out that those were the kinds of activites that are happening…..who wouldnt want to find out and if that wasnt the case, barbeque them on the open pit of public opinion……sort of like they are doing right now…before the reports are even investigated…I hope someone isnt driving this story to prevent the legal system to take a look and decide….

    SO what would the discussion be if Mr. Webster sent mail to all new voters and 20% came back….50%…….80%….would this conversation turn to the organizations responsible for registering people that were not legal to vote and they used african americans to do this or would they find another reason to attack Mr. Webster..and probably myself just for mentioning it…..without voter id these issues will continue….stop saying voter id prevents voting….voter id makes charlie webster claims disappear……

    • JohnR

      “SO what would the discussion be if Mr. Webster sent mail to all new
      voters and 20% came back….50%…….80%….would this conversation
      turn to the organizations………”

      Why would I be “required” to respond to his mailing if I got one? I would treat it like I do ALL mailings I get from the GOP……..or in this case private citizen Chuckles Webster, circular file or wood stove, whichever was handier.

      • Anonymous

        These mailings would never get in the door if the voter registration cards were filled in incorrectly….that would be the whole reason for such an excersize…they would be returned as undeliverable…which would be odd IF a whole bunch came back like that.

    • Anonymous

      If I’m not mistaken, the homeless are allowed to vote if they are US citizens. They can use a shelter address as their residence on a registration form, legally. Charlie’s “investigation” by this means is meaningless and proves absolutely nothing (except that he is taking matters into his own hands by proposing it and ignoring legitimate avenues of complaint.)

      The state of Maine has a system that allows credible discrepancies in registration forms to be caught by town clerks, second, at the polls by the wardens at each polling station, or after the fact by a complaint filed with the Sec. of State’s office. Charlie’s “investigation” comes within the realm of possible federal voting statute violations… hence the request for an investigation. Did he resort to the law already in place and the due process inherent in that law?

      Voter ID laws in the ABSENCE of voter impersonation fraud in Maine AND in the country at large disenfranchise more people than are investigated and found guilty of voter impersonation fraud in any given year. Your proposed “solution” is a BIGGER problem than the problem you PRESUME to fix. The medicine is worse than the disease…

      The reported problems with this past election most often had to do with republican activists or operatives falsely registering people, falsifying or changing information, or just plain destroying the registration forms of people that didn’t register as republicans, a serious, if not, federal offense. In recent past elections complaints serious and legitimate enough to be investigated by Congress involved the WIDE discrepancy in how polling was conducted between poor and rich polling places, electronic voting machines shown by both dem and repub polling officials to be EASILY hacked without a TRACE, and in the case of the 2000 election hampered by republican operatives disrupting the recounts and interfering with the legal process.

      You got nothing… And voter ID laws will do nothing to stop the tactics that the GOP, almost exclusively, has been engaged in to influence the outcome of elections in our recent history. (The dems are by no means saints… but recent history of shenanigans and fraud big enough to influence the results of elections are almost exclusively coming from the gop.)

      • Anonymous

        sweet info and opinions based on a seriously flawed and biased view that we already know….now, the question is….which scenario is worse…incidents that were relayed in many areas of the state of what Charlie is suspecting {1005 new voter registrations in the town of Bath or districts that had a grossly disproportionate number of african americans vote}…..yes, i just had to review the statute……and new voter registrations are legal….but 1005 is way, way, way out of normal balance…..hey, I could also admit a great get out the vote ground game…..
        or that a group would use a minority or overwhelm a small town’s voting officials to carry out voter fraud encouraging them to vote where it is clear that the law prohibited it…….kinda of a simple question….dont worry, Im not holding my breath….but if you do answer just wondering your thought on one scenario or the other…which fact of finding would be worse..

        • Anonymous

          I trust the Sec. of State’s office and the towns… If there was fraudulent registrations, or fraudulent votes, I trust the system will catch it at the town offices and at the polling places. With all the publicity this story has gotten, I can’t imagine the system is so flawed when voter fraud is so hard to find historically that it happened right under everyone’s noses. Our system of voting is not so flawed for that to happen. “Voter Fraud” was a BIG issue this past year… You really think our system is SO broken that 1005 people could waltz into town and illegally register and vote? I’m sorry but that just doesn’t seem plausible. We do have laws, we do have checks, we do have enforcement of our laws and checks at the polling places.

          I ran for town council in Windham a few years ago… Our election warden was this grandmotherly lady that kept a close eye on the candidates outside the door, for one example. I saw a friend and what over to talk to her within the 250′ of the entrance, a friendly chat, no politicking… The warden came right over and politely reminded me of the rules… I was impressed with her vigilance.

          Now I DO think our system is broken in regard to too much money, the erosion of public campaign financing… a Maine idea that migrated to many other states and which came through a popular People’s Initiative vote by Maine citizens… I think things are broken in other ways… but not this way.

  • JohnR

    “The ACLU and Brennan Center described Webster’s proposed mailing as “voter caging,”
    This and push polling are just two of the unscrupulous and underhanded methods that the squeaky clean GOP party uses to discourage voting by any but old white people. I say this as an old white person. I have witnessed their deceptive tricks since “Tricky Dickie” and they haven’t changed any.

  • Anonymous

    Webster is a despicable delusional TeaRadical. Nuff said.

  • Nagon Roan-Gelding

    Well Charlie, I guess you aren’t the only one who can investigate things.

  • Anonymous

    This guy and voter fraud go hand in hand. What next, voter suppression from this guy. Typical Republican.

  • HowdyNeighbor

    The ACLU is a crock. Seems they’ll take any cause that will get them press and, thus, more donors.

    • Anonymous

      Nonsense.

  • James Klowning

    I’m so excited and I just can’t hide it. I’m about to lose control and I think I like it

  • Anonymous

    As a person who has been personally effect by Charlie Webster’s decision making, I say “good riddance”

  • Anonymous

    Webster and LePage were clearly twins separated at birth…..good riddance Webster and 2014 won’t get here soon enough to get rid of LePage- what a pair of inane simpletons.

  • Anonymous

    Webster is a walking embarassment to himself and his party.

    • JohnR

      We prefer to call him and his kind the gifts that keep on giving……….. Please let’s us not shut them down they are great for the other team.LOL!

  • Anonymous

    Over 50 precincts in Philly and over 30 in Chicago registered not one single vote for Romney. The Pew Center reported last year that one in eight voter registrations are invalid. Don’t tell me voter fraud does not exist – of course it does.

    Unfortunately, Webster has handled this matter in an exceptionally clumsy manner, allowing leftists to pillory him despite his proper intentions.

    According to ACLU and Justice Dept. statements, he has not yet done anything “illegal”, yet they are starting an investigation anyway. What does that tell you?
    The ACLU and the Justice Dept under Holder are not to be trusted, whatsoever.

    • Millicent

      This is an interesting article – http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/romney-got-no-votes-in-59-philadelphia-precincts/

      Considering the voter registrations in those precincts and the fact that President Obama took them with 83% of the vote in 2008, it’s not surprising that he got even more votes this time around. Republicans have been rejected as obstructionists who would rather play politics than get this country back on track – and apparently didn’t learn their lesson as they are still up to the same antics.

    • Anonymous

      “The Pew Center reported last year that one in eight voter registrations are invalid.”

      That might be registration fraud, not necessarily voter fraud. It can be accomplished by partisan activists changing or misrepresenting information on collected registration forms and submitting them, as some partisan activists were caught doing this election. The reported cases were republican political activists. It can happen by people moving between districts and town clerks not being able to keep voting rolls up to date. That is not fraud. That is inefficiency. Deaths can cause the same problem. That is not fraud. Did the Pew survey differentiate between causes? And the fact that Pew reported on it indicates someone somewhere investigated the matter or at least researched it. Voter fraud has been researched too, both in Maine by Charlie Summers, and by the Bush Admin… in both cases, voter fraud, as in voter impersonation fraud or duplicate voting, was statistically non-existent in the US. Voter ID laws create more problems for legitimate voters than illegitimate voters cause the elections in the US. And then there was Ohio in 2004 and Florida in 2000, 2004, and 2008. The systematic disenfranchisement by various means, almost all of it, though not all, by GOP operatives by election fraud… It surprises me (well, not really) that those of you that are all hot and bothered by “voter fraud” just “tsk, tsk” election fraud.

      If there is cause for the Justice Dept to believe something illegal was possibly done even though it may not be obvious at first glance, it IS in their purview and mandate to decide to investigate… The laws of the US protect the vote that way…

  • Anonymous

    Charlie is not alone in believing the past election was won by massive voter fraud,
    committed mainly in the critical win states . When dealing with Communists, a little paranoia, is healthy.

    • Anonymous

      Communists?

      Koo-koo

      Koo-koo

      Yessah

    • Guest

      !!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Yeah… Romney and his “gifts…” Rush, Beck, countless other nimrods and wingnuts inhabiting the rightwing echochamber… voter, voter, voter, voter fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud….

  • Briney

    I may even renew my ACLU after this action. Like to see them push for the return of the mural, too. They should also tackle Summers for age discrimination.

    Webster has displayed his bitterness toward people of a different color, just like Summers does with his .ID cards for voters, and restrictions on older citizens.

    I have never seen such a pitiful excuse for state government like this, in the entire history of the State of Maine – Nev-ah!

    Tea Party rediculogy!

  • Anonymous

    What does the ACLU hope to find?
    Charlie’s thought processing=0.
    Charlie’s intellectual capacity=0
    Charlie’s integrity=0
    Charlie’s tolerance=0.

    End of investigation.

    • Anonymous

      Ouch…!

  • This is America, and God gave us our Two Most Important Rights: First, obviously, the right to own guns, and second, the right to vote.

    Only people who can prove they are Real Americans should be able to have a gun in America. And no one should be allowed to vote unless they show a gun. That will end all voting fraud, and as we all know, if every person in this country was armed, crime would disappear and everyone would be safer.

    • Anonymous

      God gave you guns and the vote?????????? Really?

      • Yes, where else would they have come from?!? God also gave us this Great Christian Nation that we live in.

        • Anonymous

          Sorry, Bronco. We are a secular nation, founded by Deists that feared the undo influence of religion on public affairs. Pretty good story ya got going there, though… guns and voting from God… Why God would give people life, tell them to turn the other cheek and love one another, and then give them guns with which to violently kill each other doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, but, hey… whatever floats your boat… This is America… you got a right to your opinion…

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