Comments for: Man ejected from Searsport meeting wants to file complaint; officials explain police role

Posted Nov. 29, 2012, at 5:23 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 29, 2012, at 11:08 p.m.

SEARSPORT | Ben Crimaudo, the 75-year-old Searsport man who police removed from the town planning board meeting Wednesday night, said Thursday he plans on filing a formal complaint with the town about his treatment by police. The meeting was the third in three nights as the board began digging …

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  • Oreo

    The gentleman was calm and collected. Looks to be the officer was out of line. Perhaps the blue uniform should be replaced with ‘BROWN’.

    • jerrymyx

      you can judge someone by the way it treats its most vulnerable citizens. A Bully Cop, you suppose? Ordering a quiet elderly man around like that, tells me he is not a police officer, but A cop! I do respect the Police, and commend and thank them!

    • Anonymous

      I love that this man is shoving it back in their faces. It seems clear from this clip that the police reacted in response to pressure from town officials to keep things under control. This guy got hassled because he was connected to the protesters. I hope the people of Searsport continue to stand up and demand that they be heard.

      The cops in this video are so far over their heads it’s almost funny.

      Thanks to who ever made this video available.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you regarding police action, most cops are thugs, however the people opposing the tanks are well to do yuppies who don’t want their “comfortable” lifestyle to change. I recognize some of these folks as Maine’s professional protesters. Now I know where they live, they come up to Bangor to protest, but go back to their comfy homes in Searsport. They seem a bit self serving to me. They could careless about the high cost of fuel for most Mainers as they sit in their homes with very nice wood burning stoves burning wood they bought cheaply from some poor Mainer who worked his butt of chopping it.

        Bangorian your crowd is sooooo phony and self serving.

        • Anonymous

          As someone who spent a dozen years in Searsport living in old garage buildings without running water and heating with wood I cut myself, I rather resent your ignorant suppositions about who the people are in that town opposed to the DCP mega-tank.

          You might be surprised how many people raised in Searsport have not bought into the lies circulated by DCP. These are people from all walks of life with varying attitudes and beliefs who don’t for a minute believe the nonsense, for instance, that any kid from Searsport who can produce a GED certificate is at all likely to be one of the lucky 10 or 12 from across Maine selected to work at the new propane mega-tank terminal at a starting salary, the company claims, of $65,000.

          These are hard-working honest people who understand the need for jobs but also worry that DCP’s arrival will destroy the existing economy, resulting in overall fewer jobs. These are people who enjoy an existing way and quality of life — one widely appreciated and even envied to judge from the hundreds of thousands of tourists who pass through each year. They worry the largest propane tank on the Eastern Seaboard if not the world would be a big step toward irreversible industrialization so that upper Penobscot Bay looks a lot less like upper Penobscot Bay and a lot more like industrial New Jersey.

          Yes, the so-called local “yuppies” I know and have met in working against DCP do tend to live in very nice homes. You know what? They also honorably paid for those homes with their own money — money earned by having the discipline and perseverance to get an education or skills to provide the kind of services any society I’d ever want to live in needs to have. You have contempt for these folks? Then you have contempt for everybody from the person whose grocery store or restaurant feeds your family to the teacher who feeds your kid’s mind, from the dentist who saves your teeth to the doctor who saves your life.

          You know what else? If you believe in this same nasty and divisive picture of a few unreasonably well-off people “from away” who spend most of their time being “professional demonstrators” and experiencing angst because their precious view might be compromised, then you qualify as one of the dupes that DCP’s professional public manipulation specialists work so hard to develop.

          Ms. Rosslyn Elliott appears to be the company’s chief propagandist, an unofficial title which to dupes like you is known as “a PR person” or “a communications specialist.” She actually launched DCP’s campaign to win over dupes in Maine by going on WVOM and telling her always sycophantic hosts that the only people opposed to the company’s mega-tank were “a few rich people from away” who were worried the pristine view from the expansive decks of their summer homes might somehow be compromised, haw-haw, by what was after all “just another tank.”

    • Anonymous

      hey! lets leave the UPS guy out of this….

  • ptkitty

    Bizarre indeed! Doesn’t sound like this old man stepped over the line and deserved to be treated in this manner.

    We tolerate an incredible amount of bad behavior these days…this just doesn’t appear to be one of those cases. The video should show everyone what happened. I think that Crimaudo deserves an apology.

  • Superuser23

    He wont get a fair investigation of his complaint. It is stupid that the town is saying that the enforcement is up to the Police Department, it shouldn’t have been that way, the town should not have even needed a police presence to begin with and furthermore it should have been up to the town officials as to whether or not their own rules were being broken and warranted someone to be removed unless of course a law was broken, otherwise the police had no business

    • Anonymous

      Exactly.

  • Anonymous

    Most cops are insecure control freaks much like bullies they gain their power from controlling others. In another word. Losers

    • Anonymous

      you should move to a country where there are no police to protect you and say something like that.

      • Anonymous

        Ohh….thats right because other countries have it worst we should just shut up and accept it. Not how it works, we are not those countries, we are the USA. We have rights and we will protect them.

        • Anonymous

          So, next time someone is speeding down your road / street, no need to call the cops; just go out shoot ’em.

          • Anonymous

            That doesn’t make sense. Do you think I am aginst the Police? No, but even the Police have to be kept in check.

          • Anonymous

            I see. That would be when you get busted for speeding down your neighbor’s street, it’s heavy handed harassment that needs to be kept in check but it’s plenty fine if your neighbor gets busted for speeding down your street, except when they’re not there to bust the guy and then
            it’s dereliction of duty.

            I don’t mean to pick issues; I have a friend that works in law enforcement and things have changed over the past few years. The cops used to be good guys; now they’re viewed with distrust and when someone gets busted, it certainly isn’t because of their own bad behavior
            (assuming responsibility is so 1900’s), it’s because they got unlucky or the cop was picking on them.

            Perhaps the best one I heard was a woman defending her son after he was ticketed for having a party in a cemetery at night. Yes, lady, your kid should certainly have the right to party on people’s graves with impunity. After all, they’re dead; what rights do they deserve?

      • Anonymous

        I’d rather live there and defend myself than be subject to these louts

        • Anonymous

          Today’s toughest guy on the internet award goes to….

          • Anonymous

            Haha what to the searsport cops with the flack jackets and storm trooper boots.

      • Anonymous

        why do you hate freedom?

        • Anonymous

          What’s the issue? No police is the ultimate freedom.

          • Anonymous

            Pfft.

  • Anonymous

    When one attends these types of meetings, you are there at the pleasure of the people serving on the board involved.
    It is their responsibility to maintain order. If chaos reigns, nothing gets accomplished.
    It looks to me that Mr. Crimaudo was out of line numerous times and was ejected because he was promoting chaos instead of waiting his turn and voicing his opinion.
    Shame on the lawyers and Thanksbutnotank for promoting and defending this behavior

    • Anonymous

      Are you high?

      • Anonymous

        Are You High??

        • Anonymous

          That was low.

    • Anonymous

      Huh?

    • Anonymous

      Thank you!! I was getting kind of nauseated by the he’s a poor old man, poor victim, He was manhandle, all cops are the same, he should sue the town, we are all Americans, we have rights too crap. He should have waited to speak like everyone else. No excuses!

      • Anonymous

        but he wasn’t speaking out of turn, it was one on one conversation. He wasn’t disrupting anything. If the cop does nothing, then nobody notices.

    • Anonymous

      roll tape and we will see…

    • Anonymous

      did you read the article? Never once did he raise his voice. He wasn’t even addressing the board, he was addressing his lawyer.

      • Anonymous

        It it was “his” lawyer, why did he have to get up and walk twenty feet towards the board’s table in order to “whisper” to him?

        They’re going to build it, and they are going to burn the mural as well, so get over it.

  • Anonymous

    “It’s a personelle matter” translation :” my cop went too far “

  • Anonymous

    I do not see what this fellow did. He wasn’t jumping up and down, fist balled, screaming at anyone. I’ve seen this at meetings (not pretty, but some people will be emotional when politics crosses their beliefs), and even those individuals over the years were allowed to stay or just leave of their own accord. I would like to think our officers are here for us, but I have my doubts at times. I would think the head Selectmen would control whose ejected from the meeting he or she chairs, and not a street beater.

  • Anonymous

    Just because one is 75 does not give them an excuse to be rude or to break the rules.

    • Anonymous

      What rule did he break? How was he rude?

      • Anonymous

        Read the whole thing again.

        • Anonymous

          I did. Can you cite the passage, svp?

  • Mert Wilson

    MR CRIMAUDO SHOULD SUE THE TOWN. HE HAS THE BEST WITNESS A LAWYER WAS RIGHT THERE. IM SURE HE COULD USE THE MONEY IN RETIREMENT LIFE

  • Anonymous

    And if any of us think an investigation is going to accomplish anything just remember that the folks conducting it are strong proponents of the project and have close ties to the police department. A kangaroo court at best, and just like the tank project, the outcome will never be in doubt.

    • Anonymous

      I wish more people thought like you, so we could get this tank built. If the outcome will never be in doubt (your words) why are these moonbats so adamant at causing problems for a project which will help the town and region economically. People wonder what is wrong with our country and this is a prime example. Anytime some company wants to build something to create jobs there are a group or groups of people who stand in their way and make it incredibly costly to do so.

      Why is growth and change so scary for these folks?

      If there were fewer obstacles for new businesses our country would be more prosperous but we have folks who are concerned that one really big tank added to an industrial complex with multiple large tanks is going to make a monumental difference to the town. How many times have we also seen a large project get stopped because of some stupid thing like destroying the habitat of a few frogs (think Sears Island). I am all for conservancy and nature but lets be reasonable about it. If you are going to destroy a large population of wildlife with your project than by all means it should be stopped. However, if your project is going to have a minimal impact on one species than that is entirely different.

      • Anonymous

        Because, Growth with out opposition is very scary. Do we just allow them to do what every they want? No, there always needs to be the other side to keep things in check.

        • Anonymous

          LOL! So it doesn’t matter if the opposition is rational or not, just as long as there is some. Fantastic thought process!

          • Anonymous

            well if the opposition is irrational then they would have a hard time getting people on board save a couple of things. We can’t allow just anything to happen for a quick buck. You can’t let companies expand unchecked. I don’t care about this tank, build don’t build it. What I like to see is people standing up for what they believe in.

          • Anonymous

            What they believe in is “not in my backyard”. Would they be just as passionate if it was in some other town? Didn’t think so; they’d be more than happy to let the company jam it down someone else’s throats and say “hey, at least it’s not in my….”

          • Anonymous

            Well yeah, Its their town. Just like if it was in another town people in that town would fight against it.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe its because people are sick and tired of all of the beautiful countryside being littered with these huge Oil Tanks that eventually rust and become nothing more than a huge eyesore? Maybe its because when these tanks start to leak chemicals into the soil and erode the countryside so sinkholes start popping up everywhere, people are actually concerned at what we are doing to our earth? You say its going to bring jobs and make the town some money, but we both know that the only ones that truly prosper from such events are the owners of the propane and oil companies. They are part of that 1% that buy up land all over the country, put these monstousities up everywhere and sit back and collect their dough. They dont pay the people building it a fair wage, they dont pay the people maintaining it a fair wage, but they sure do like the million and billions that go into thier pockets….Sorry but this guy had a right to have his say and as usual with town, city and Federal government, they dont want to hear from the little guy….cause they just dont care.

        • Anonymous

          Show me a liquid propane tank that has leaked oil or chemicals into the soil. Also, please do not use propane or have anything to do with anyone that does…if so you are part of the problem that you state.

      • Anonymous

        Why is growth and change so scary for these folks? Most are from away and have made their money. They don’t care if we need to make any.

      • Anonymous

        ” If the outcome will never be in doubt (your words) why are these moonbats so adamant at causing problems for a project which will help the town and region economically.”
        Because #1 Corporations are notorious liars. #2. They have already tried to sleeze stuff through. #3. If you have ever tried to get on to Route 1 from any intersection in Searsport you know how long it takes now. Wait till all the trucks start coming through town. #4. Last but not least; if it blows up all of your precious money will burn up in the horrendous fire that could make the whole midcoast uninhabitable.

        Oh yeah, the companies own experts say that it will never happen. What a relief.

    • Anonymous

      You have to wonder if the meeting had been about something like gay marriage or a pro-choice supported ordinance or something along those lines, if the “beloved and respected” member of the community would be seen somewhat differently, perhaps as someone doing what they were not supposed to do, acting inappropriately or maybe even illegally trying to interrupt or disrupt the proper proceedings?

  • Anonymous

    Whispering is not talking and a BJ is not “sex with that woman”. Typical liberals, do as I say, but I will do as I want.

  • ROOK

    Perception is reality. I doubt the gentleman’s behavior warranted being ejected. But how often does a small town police force encounter such an assembly with so many people emotionally invested? Perhaps he was perceived as being the catalyst to further disturbance.

  • David Sylvester

    The article is incomplete. The reporter gives the age of only one person among seven mentioned in the article.

    • Anonymous

      Ryan?

  • Guest

    As always one should never go looking for trouble if there were no complaint.

  • Anonymous

    Good thing Bombport Police Department doesn’t have Tasers……….it would have been “Don’t tase me bro” all over again.

    My observation: the process the LLC has taken to build this 175 foot tall tank STINKS and they know the only barrier remaining are the citizens of Searsport…………..the simple fact is they don’t care what people think, they just want money. Never-mind if the town is blown off the map. It is too big for where they are going to build it. 175 feet tall ?

    And check out Bombports newest restaurant’s menu……already has a “Pizza Propane Tank” on it.

    • Anonymous

      The reality is that the tank will affect all of Maine, not just Searsport. The tank is only one part of the petro/chemical industry plan for the state, that includes the E/W corridor, reopening the old pipeline from Montreal to Portland deepening the port, etc. The plan is to change forever the coast to the export center for the export of LNG and tar-sands oil to Europe. They have designed the process so they can bully just one small group, the people of Searsport, into approval. One little piece at a time. Divide and conquer.
      The completion of this plan will ensure the increased use of fossil fuels,and game over for stopping the global warming caused by their use.

      • Anonymous

        Kind of like the way the north woods are being closed off. Your words ” one little piece at a time” by environmentalists at a cost to some recreational users !

        • Anonymous

          Its being closed off to the recreational users because you never took care of it when it was available. Recreational users do just that, they “USE” the land, but, they refuse to take care of the land…

        • Anonymous

          You mean by the people that own it?

  • I had to stop the video once they started singing.

    • Anonymous

      Skip past the music it gets better at the end.

  • Anonymous

    A public meeting is just that public. All the public no matter which side of the fence. A planning board meeting is run under the rules of government and the chairman is suppose to be in charge and if you listen to the majority outside and read the article that is not case here. Never once was Mr. Crimaudo addressed by the Chair about anything. If there was a disturbance it was the Chair’s responsibility to address it first. Yes we have laws that the police are hired to enforce but only when a complaint has been made and there is an appropriate chain to follow. If the Chair could not maintain the order then the police follow up.That is rule in a government style meeting based on it bilaws. I have been to many official town meetings and never once not seen people whispering and talking in the crowd and only addressed if out of control to disrupting others. It is what they do. At best this man stood out of his seat and the officer told him to stop talking but maybe should have really asked to sit down because that was the difference then the others in the room IMO. I wasn’t there but that’s seems logical. Then Mr. Crimaudo could have sat and situation avoided instead of this commotion but that is not what happened so we will never know if that would have been the end of it. I still see nowhere that the Chair was anywhere around to maintain the fair order of a public meeting and the buck starts there as this is his requirement under this position. It was not up to the Police department to ban a resident from a public meeting without the request of the committee so hence we shall all be watching intently because we the people are losing our rights from town to country just like this daily. Good luck Mr. Crimaudo and the citizens of Searsport for this has been a long battle and I hope the end result is what is truly best for your community.

  • It’s another case of The Man trying to keep the man down, man.

  • Anonymous

    sounds like EVERYONE needs a refresher course on Roberts Rules of Order. Especially the fledgling officer who took it upon himself to manhandle the geezer doing the whispering.

    seems like Mr. Nickerson has some control issues. good thing he’s the cops…..

  • These “Official responses” are shocking. Just shocking.

    • Anonymous

      Your response is shockingly predictable.

      • Right you are Yowsa..I have spent a life time advocating for and trying to bring about responsible and responsive government..fully transparent ..fully representative of “we the people” and not corporate profiteers. So yes, my response is very predictable given that my comments at all these blogs are about good government , transparency and sound public policy.

        I am shocked after everything that has happened between town officials, DCP and the townspeople and neighboring towns for more than a year; at what has transpired in recent months:

        (1) The town’s own ordinance says that no applicant may make an application to the town until all other permits are in place . DCP Searport LLC holds no permits except a mistakenly issued air emissions permit. DCP Searsport hasn’t even evidenced that it as ownership or an ownership interest in the land. That is still in the name of DCP Miidstream, LP as far as I know.. It is critically important that all citizens of any jurisdiction can rely on the operation and enforcement of all laws in effect.

        (2) in violating its own ordinace and accepting this application from DCP Searport LLC thetown has shielded DCP from any initaive the townspeople may wish to enact..like modifying the height and size limit of structures in the industrial zone or nay other modificationns the townspeople may wish to make. No town can anticipate what might happen to it and have wording in all itss ordinances that further what the towns vision is for itself. The Planning board in illegally acceting this application has illegally vested DCP Searsport LLC with protection against any actions the citizens of Searsport may wish to take now that they have a complete picture of this company and its plans for their town.

        (3) the economic development consultant presumably hired by the planning board on behalf of the town and representing the towns interests repeatedly used the terms “our” and “we” referring not to the town of Searsport but to DCP. Who paid for this study and who was that consultant representing?

        (4) the planning board chairman stood by while a roughly policeman ejected a 75 year old citizen of Searsport who was making no disturbance at all. The right of public assembly, the principle of governance by “we the people”, free speech are all almost sacred foundation stones for all governance in this country.

        Yes Yowsa, It is the worst , most shocking example of a town “owned” by a corporation that I have ever seen in 40 years of public service. And yes. it is very predictable that I would characterize this as “shocking”

  • Anonymous

    “Move along” = Shut your mouth, I am not interested in any facts that make my little insecure bully of an SS officer look like he did anything wrong.

  • THE POLICE HAVE NO RIGHT TO DESIDE ANY THING AT A TOWN MEETING ONLY THE GUY WITH THE HAMMER DESIDES.I GUESS THEY THINK THEY ARE A POLICE STATE.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, I was a little baffled by the impromptu sing along towards the end of the video. I am just wondering did they make a plan ahead of time to sing a song if someone was thrown out? That was just bizarre. This video really doesn’t show anything other than police officers talking to Mr. Crimaudo and explaining in a calm, even tone why he was thrown out. I love all of those who say “he wasn’t even warned, he didn’t get a warning”. When did breaking a rule result in a warning first and action second? You break a rule, you suffer the consequences, this isn’t pre-school folks. Although with the sing-a-long it did appear to be a bit reminiscent of pre-school.

    As for those who say Mr. Crimaudo should sue, my question to you is on what grounds? Did he sustain any property damage, injury (which can include emotional distress), or monetary damage? Last time I checked you have to prove damages that resulted from the actions of another and you have to be able to quantify those damages in a monetary amount. He could sue for emotional distress but would have to prove that this had a profound impact on his life, which would be difficult to do since he doesn’t look too upset about being kicked out of the meeting. Anyone can sue anyone for anything, but winning is the hard part. I would love to see him sue and get laughed out of town by a jury of his peers. Mainer’s do not take well to frivolous lawsuits filed in their home towns, especially when filed by someone who is not a Mainer and lived in New Jersey before coming to Maine. I have spent enough time in courtrooms to see this firsthand and I would certainly take the time to watch if Mr. Crimaudo and his legal team from No Tanks decided to file suit.

    • Anonymous

      Crimaudo , Agabian , Hinchman ; all these names impressed me with the feeling of powerlessness over people “from away” buying up little chunks of vacationland and closing it off to our native population.

      • Anonymous

        You sound like Bill O’Reilly’s complaint that we no longer have the “traditional voter” anymore. You are voicing some very racist comments.

    • Anonymous

      interfering with his constitutional right to assemble and free speech??

    • civil rights violations??? excessive use of police force ( a first principle in our declaration of independence and our constitution) and further elaborated in our civil rights laws over time.

      defending freedom and civil liberties is never frivolous.

      never

      • Anonymous

        The rest of the people at the forum should have mobbed the cops and pounded on them….

        the modern thuggery of our “police force” is out of hand and the people need to stand up and let them know who truly runs the show…..and it aint some two-bit cops hiding behind their whimpy little guns

        • Hi Jack..Yes fear has been used as part of governance for so long, especially since 9/11 that we have been lulled into not only tolerating but expecting more police control and oversight than we ever would have tolerated before. It is time we awake and take a fresh look at redefining our relationship with police authority.

          What happened to this elderly man who has apparently made it to every single hearing ( wow and good for him) has been part of that waking..all who saw and heard about it had an inner response that said “wait a minute..this isn’t about protecting the public this is about interfering with public rights”

          Telling this story..sharing its meaning to you, being on heightened alert to police behavior towards the public and speaking up about that is the action that comes with waking..

          I understand something like that happened..that many people gathered around the policeman and this man in the lobby outside of the hearing room and a made a peaceful protest of what was happening, stood in witness to it..in solidarity with the man. That sends a message of people awakened to right action..people awakened to not submit to fear.

          In fact this whole week of hearings has been a sort of morality play..it has put the role of government , the role of the police, the avenues open to citizens to tell government what they want, the way corporations infiltrate even tiny little villages like Searsport and manipulate regulatory and oversight agencies on display. It’s all laid out there with such clarity . If you were writing a screen play about citizen awakening you couldn’t write a better script than what actually happened so far this week in Searsport.

          I understand there are videos of all of it. Would be so great to see it edited into an indie documentary for the world to see and consider.

    • Cheryl Garland Pike

      there is and was rules set by the committee, and I believe the date was 10/12/2012 and Mrs Crimaudo sat before the committee and Mr Probert and asked some pointed questions about the future meetings and who would be allowed to speak etc..It was also on the Searsport Channel when she sat in front of Probert. The rules had been decided by the committee and there was some dissention about the terms of the rules being placed.

      Now, I agree that people have the right to speak and be heard about their opinions and we as citizens have that right. But in a public forum, you dont go meandering around a staged area to get a point across to an Attorney. That should be done during the break, and not while the meeting is in progress. And when asked to “be quiet, and to sit down(take your seat:” then that should be done. Whether it be by an officer or one of the committee members. And at every public forum there is an officer and sometimes there has been County officers at the meetings. And this is because meetings like this type can and sometimes do get heated.

      I have a problem with having to come to a meeting after we the TAXPAYERS AND VOTERS were given the right to make our voice heard when we voted to have the Tank brought to Searsport. Our voices were heard but overlooked and now we have this situation with people that are hot headed and boysterous…I think we already decided and it should be that…ALLOW THE TANK..WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT…

    • Anonymous

      LOL…..moronic post

      what “rule” was broken?

      there is no law against whispering to a person sitting next to you in a public forum

      what are you some paranoid bible thumping Quaker or something

      if this man was handled in ANY manner by an officer of the law or another citizen, he has every right under the sun to charge both parties with assault, especially the out of line public servants who have absolutely ZERO authority to put their hands on another human being unless they plan an arrest

      and as for your moronic claim regarding local courts and a jury of this gentleman’s peers, he would win hands down as every single juror will put themselves in the position of being manhandled and thrown out of a public meeting for whispering to their neighbor, as it is a slap in the face to human freedom and liberty and entirely un-American

  • Anonymous

    Why wasn’t he maced, Tased, and nightsticked? He looks dangerous.

    ;-)

  • Anonymous

    This protest about the tank has been going on too long ! It’s time that the town council should compile all the facts , toss out all the emotion , meet in closed session and make a decision on this matter. The proponents and the opponents will have to agree to disagree .

    • Maine state laws forbid such an action. “The public’s business shall be done publicly.”

  • Anonymous

    Lahaye had to and has to go along and stand by Nickersons actions even if He knows Nickerson was wrong with his manhandling of Ben .. to have asked Nickerson to stand down at the time or to apoloize now would be to admit the mistake Nickerson made. Nickerson is a typical bully pushing someone around he knows he can easily outmatch… Nice work Deputy Dog .. I will say it if Dick Layahe won’t .. STAND DOWN “OFFICER” NICKERSON !! Empy your gun and keep one bullet in your shirt pocket…

  • Anonymous

    Next time, CALL the cops if they’re needed. Otherwise, no on-duty cops should be there.

    • Anonymous

      I agree, and often point out that the fire department doesn’t hang around in case a fire breaks out. Why should cops be hanging out anywhere unless they are called to a scene by a resident of their jurisdiction?

  • Anonymous

    Gotta love the herd mentality…one starts singing, they all start singing. One starts shouting, they all start shouting. No question about it…this was a herd of sheep waiting for the slightest provocation to erupt in their herd behavior.
    No wonder the police had to keep order during the meeting. Can’t have people moving around willy-nilly passing along messages, whispered or not, throughout the meeting room and maintain any sense of order or decorum.
    Want to pass along a message? Text the person! Be a big boy, Mr. Crimaudo. This isn’t kindergarten. Don’t risk being removed from the meeting and then refuse to move when asked and then when you’re removed, complain about it.

    • Anonymous

      Did it occur to you that the crowd may have been in agreement with each other?

  • Conley Raye

    It was a town meeting to discuss town business and someone’s 75 year old grandfather gets outright humiliated in front of the entire town. What threat could he have posed and wasn’t he a known resident by the cops ? Ego, adrenalin rush and Police mismanagement. The town manager and council need to weigh in on this and institute continuing education for town meetings and coffee shop discussions.
    It is obvious that the police officer wanted to jump to judgement without thinking, the same way that some folks make impulsive decisions that end up in jail. A police officer needs to be held to higher standards and answer for, what seems a hurried incorrect judgment on a elderly senior citizen that posed no harm or threat. I do not believe the legal community needs to be involved at all, the police officer needs to make a public apology to this man so both will be somewhat, even. Legal fee’s are out of the tax payers, taxes so it doesn’t make any sense to carry this on.

  • Guest

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  • Anonymous

    #1: People are in hysterics over this incident. Everybody relax – he was escorted out of the meeting for talking out of turn. Was it a bad judgment call by the officer? Sure, it probably was. But this is hardly the crime against humanity it is being made out to be. It’s not like he was tasered or beaten with batons. He was given a chance to voice his concerns afterward, and he wasn’t even arrested.

    #2: Everyone wants to drive their cars, heat their homes, cook their food; but nobody wants the fracking, propane tanks, oil rigs, etc. that make our cushy lifestyles possible. As much as I don’t want a huge propane tank in Searsport, I have a hard time fighting it because I know I’m part of the reason these kinds of things exist. This tank, if it is built, might just serve as a reminder of the ugly truth behind our consumptive habits.

    • Anonymous

      While I agree that as a population we are too “consumptive”, the issue here is not whether or not the gas will be used, it is where it will be stored and distributed. DCP already has a distribution point, they want to move it here for reasons that are not quite clear yet but probably to leave them with an infrastructure to export, not import fuel. My problem is that I will end up subsidizing their profits with lower property value, truck traffic that causes pollution, noise and inconvenience, and an eyesore that will keep tourists away. No one need feel guilt for chasing DCP out of town.

    • (1) he was not “talking out of turn” he left his seat and came towards the frontto whsiper very quietly in Ken Agabian’s ear about a pount he wanted conveyed to Steve Hinchman, attorney for the opponents and also representing Island Heritage Trust. He was not causing a diisrurption anIn fact whatthe policemen did seems to have violaed all kinds of basic freedoms we all rely onn having and still believe in.

      . I have testified at literally hundreds of hearings including congressional over my 40 years and attended many many more. It is perfectly normal and customary at any public hearing for people to quietly exchange information with one another in the course of a hearing in this manner

      (2)Your second point is an important one and I think the remarkable public commitment to these hearings over 5 consecutive nights ( even the evicted elderly man came back the next night) is a show of “the people” taking responsibility for sound solutions to issues that effect all our lives.

      I couldn’t agree more that we the people “own” everything that happens. If we haven’t been part of seeking responsible solutions, we are responsible for what actually does happen.

      People like you who realize and are acting and speaking on that and the amazing folk who have invested so much in responsible participation of this issue are what will bring about change, that will bring about responsible solutions.

  • Anonymous

    Hey big bad police man!!!!! Do you feel better? You manhandled a 75 year old man and forced him out of a meeting regarding a propane tank placement. Now aren’t you just the BMIT? In case you couldn’t figure it out, Big Man In Town.

  • Anonymous

    “‘I’m not talking, I’m whispering.”

    WISE ARSE response. He should have been arrested at that point. The cops gave the disorderly civilian a break

    • Anonymous

      “Civilian”? That’s almost as good as “subject.” Give me a break. Actually, give us all a break!

    • FIrst of all Mr. Crimaudo is a gentle man as well as a gentleman. LeHaye threatened him in the video that he would arrest him if Mr. Crimaudo re-entered the public meeting. That is not supporting your underling, but rather escalating the situation. It would have been more appropriate for LeHaye to tell Mr. Crimaudo that he needs to remain in his seat and let him re-enter the meeting.. Then he should have taken Nickerson aside and privately reprimanded him. You complement in public and reprimand in private. LeHaye’s actions only go to show that he support Nickerson’s actions and that he was trying to suppress free speech. I wonder if the fact that the police department stand to gain two more full-time paid positions at $85,000 a piece if this tank should be approved had any influence on their actions. Seems to me that what they did speaks volumes about where they stand and what they will do to try to make this happen. Throw out the Constitution. Throw out the rules that were established by the chair of the meeting. Seems more as if we are living in the world of the novel of 1984 than in a civilized society.

      Whispering, as far as I know, is not a crime and there was more of a commotion and disruption to the meeting because of the police’s actions.

  • harlan mclaughlin

    i’ve been active in Searsport politics for quite a few years now…i have attended and been part of almost all of the contentious meetings we have had over that time…and i have never once seen anything happen that required police presence…there has never been one time that i heard anyone say ” boy i wish there was a cop here”….yet , over the years, in spite of the lack of any indication it was necessary, the police presence at our meetings has increased from one officer, to six on the night Mr Crimaudo was victimized….the police have taken it upon themselves to attempt to intimidate the citizens with this unnecessary show of force….on the night in question there were 6 police officers and a crowd of about 200 taxpayers exercising their constitutional rights ….the police were disbursed among the crowd and made their presence known….
    when Mr Crimaudo was singled out, the meeting was almost 3 hours old and there had been no problems…people were whispering amongst themselves the whole time….could it be that the police wanted to have some type of confrontation to set the example for the people that would come to the next couple of meetings…[ the next few meetings will feature comments from the public…many more folks are expected….and it could get rowdy…]….and since there had been no problems yet, they needed to find someone to make an example of..thus the problem for Crimaudo….he wasn’t doing anything different than anyone else but time was running out and they needed to find a problem to solve….

    remember also the Planning Board did not request police presence…this idea came from the police….i challenge those defending the actions of the police to offer up suggestions as to why the police felt they needed to be there in such large numbers….since we have NEVER had any problems at our meetings… EVER..and there was no indication that that was about to change….why would they choose to show up like that…???…and in such large numbers that we had to hire officers from outside Searsport to supplement our force….[ at considerable unnecessary cost to the taxpayers ]

    we don’t want a police force that places so much emphasis on the force….no matter how you look at it, this is an overreaction by the police…and if it isn’t addressed, it will be repeated…

  • Anonymous

    To see the good news and the really bad news potential wise
    http://www.iomosaic.com/docs/whitepapers/understand_lng_fire_hazards.pdf

    BTW I am one of the moonbats.

  • Anonymous

    That tank will hurt nothing they don’t think twice when it comes to cutting trees and putting up an ugly windmill.With taxpayer money

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