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  • Yes by a solid 3 points.

    • Anonymous

      Not what i been hearing at polls today.  I been at civic center most of the day shaking hands all day and most people coming out said they voted No on 1.  I was hoping it would pass, 

      • Either way, I will be shocked if it’s called before midnight.

    • Anonymous

      What?

    • Anonymous

      don’t get too excited just yet

      • Anonymous

        How about now? Can we get excited now?

  • Anonymous

    YES!

    • Anonymous

      THANKS.

      ; )

  • Anonymous

    Maine Voters Reject Gay Marriage Law
    Published November 04, 2009

    Remember when the people spoke????  Why do we need to keep speaking before this population understands.Change your terminology, get your own definition of marriage & I & many other s will will vote yes……..it is that simple.  

    • Ditto. I voted NO on ONE today for that very reason.  I don’t want people thinking that if I say I’m married that I’m gay.  A word that has meant the “union between a man and a woman” for 500 plus years needs no change in it’s definition. 

      • Anonymous

        Do you think men voted against women having the right to the vote because they were scared people were going to think they were women if they said they had voted? Come on. 

        • Anonymous

          Now  isn’t that silly & not making alot of sense. 

          • NOW you get it. Go figure.

          • The sad part is he doesn’t get the irony of his own statement.

          • Anonymous

            Why not? It’s pretty stupid to say that you’re scared someone will think you’re gay if you say you’re married. That makes no sense. To deny someone else rights because you don’t like being associated with them? How disgusting. 

          • Anonymous

            Why are you disciminating against unmarried hetro couples? We have 1,100 less rights and higher taxes.

          • Anonymous

            Nonsense.

          • Anonymous

             Nobody’s stopping to from getting married, if you want those rights, PUT A RING ON IT !

          • Anonymous

            It’s against our belief to be forced into something that goes against freedom.
            We are not letting the government tell us how to have a relationship and it’s discrimination by taxation to be forced into doing something we don’t believe in.

          • Anonymous

            Horse pucky!

          • Anonymous

            So you mean those 1,100 rights were a lie?

          • Anonymous

            Ah-yup Ansel sure was ” silly & not making alot of sense.”

        • Anonymous

           Look at the brave men who voted FOR women’s suffrage.They’ve been overlooked.

        • Anonymous

           wolfndeer, the trolls are out in full force today … must have found a new Kool-aid supply!

      • If you’re a male, tell people you have a wife. It’s not difficult. I’ll tell people I have a husband. (Hopefully.)

        • Anonymous

          Best wishes!

        • Tom Russell

          Figures.

          • Anonymous

            Now now. I’m sure you can be invited to the reception if you promise not to hit on the bridesmaids again. Tsk tsk.

      • Anonymous

        I wonder if you would have thought the same thing when interracial marriage was banned in many states.

        • Anonymous

          Couples in an interracial marriage were male & female & it was never up for vote because it was between a male & female, as it should be

          • Anonymous

            As it should be by who’s standards? Religion? Yeah your also not supposed to eat shellfish if your religious, pick and choose whats convenient for you?

          • Anonymous

            Interracial marriage was illegal in many states when I was young.  But my older brother married  a woman who is black, and they had two beautiful intelligent daughters.  Making their marriage illegal in much of the nation was stupid. 
            Of course, the conservatives said that interracial marriage was unnatural and against the teachings of the Bible.  But the Supreme Court re-defined marriage to allow interracial marriage, and that was a good thing.
            Now we’re ending unfair discrimination against same sex couples — Marriage will be strengthened by these couples who believe in marriage so much that they want to get married.  My 33-year marriage is not threatened by people who want to get married.

          • Anonymous

            Interracial marriage was illegal in many states. Had it been put to a vote it would have been voted down. Even today there are states where many believe it should be illegal.

          • Anonymous

            > “Interracial marriage was illegal in many states. Had it been put to a vote it would have been voted down.”

            So things and people have improved.
            Good.

            Digiro !

          • Anonymous

            Your right….interracial marriage was never put to a popular vote. It took a SCOTUS decision (Loving v. Virginia 1967) to strike down all the laws against interracial marriage.

          • notateapartier

            No, the rights of a minority should never be voted on by the majority. Ridiculous. Since it has, though, I am glad that the majority has voted for equality for their fellow citizens.

      • Garrett Schwindt

         So what your really saying is your afraid that a man or women will be a better husband or wife then you? and you need to separate yourself from them.. I’m not afraid of anybody thinking that and if you are that just shows how shallow you really are.. Women need to get there own definition for voter rights.. I don’t want my sticker that says i voted to make people think I’m a women… 

      • Anonymous

        Who cares?  All about you …

      • Really? That has to be one of the most absurd reasons I have ever read. Are you that insecure with yourself?

      • Anonymous

         If that’s what you’re worried about, you have some personal image issues.

      • Anonymous

        Its a word…that is all it is.  So if you are happy, and a gay couple is happy, does that mean that you are gay?  Give us all a break, take some humility and accept your loss…Get over it. Stop trying to divide everyone.  There is no need, we are all human beings, the English Dictionary is available to all of us and there are no words specific to one person or group of people.  Your arguments are disgusting.  Please, learn about the love of self, and the love of your fellow man/woman. Thank you.

        • Tom Russell

          Well, with the exception of you that is.

      • Anonymous

        Everyone thinks you are gay anyway, Ansel. And they mean it as a compliment. 

      • Anonymous

        Those very  people spoke?    it was a 49 to 51 percentage.     If you don’t believe that there aren’t enough problems in this world……..and that you think that two people in love shouldn’t be allowed to marry…then you need to think about your problems with the world.   What difference does it make?..        If you think that there is some god up in the sky, that knows all and has sacrificed his son, but allowed his disciples to continue a gospel  that each and everyone of them has their own twist…………………don’t you, or wouldn’t you think that each and every one of them embraced love,   in any form?

      • Anonymous

         That is one of the dumbest statements I have ever read.

      • Anonymous

        I’m a straight guy married for 33 years — and I voted “Yes on 1” because I believe in fairness and equality.  All adults should be treated equally under the law.
        If marriage is good for my wife and me, and it is, then it will be good for same-sex couples, too.  Marriage isn’t threatened by people who want to get married — expanding marriage to include more people will strengthen marriage.
        This is a great day for Americans!

        • Anonymous

           And folks like you made it possible. Thank you.

        • Tom Russell

          Wait.  You will see how it adversely effects your life.

          • Anonymous

            waiting….waiting…

          • Anonymous

            Can you tell us how it has adversely effected people in Mass where it was already legal?

          • Anonymous

            Well i can tell you this…I am happy to see how it is adversely effecting YOUR life…brings yet another smile to my face.

        • Anonymous

          You have discriminated against unmarried hetro couples. Who have been together for years, who have been unfairly punished with higher taxes. Who have 1,100 less rights then everyone else and have to pay you all by higher taxes to be discriminated against.

          • Anonymous

            Unmarried heterosexual couples have always had the right to marry if they so choose.  If they make a choice not to marry, they have also make a choice to pay single person income tax rates and to not have the right to collect their partner’s social security.  But it is their choice.    Homosexual couples now have the same rights to make the same choice – to marry or not.   Where is the discrimination?

          • Anonymous

            So get married and quit whining already!

          • Anonymous

            We refuse to be forced into a government dictated union so they can sell our marriage license and everyone makes money off us, but we can’t and we do get to pay interest and the payment. As soon as the federal government makes taxes fair, you know married people and people with kids then we’ll talk about it.

          • Anonymous

            If you truly care about this, you can solve this problem by getting a civil marriage license.

          • Anonymous

            No I do t follow the masses of bridges. I don’t believe in marriage neither does
            my partner so you would suggest I throw a rope around them and force
            us into doing something we are both against. Neither do we care to jump off the bridge like
            everyone else. When the government butts out, when they stop discriminating against
            single people we’ll talk about it until then we are discriminated against
            because my partner may not recover to be fair because of over taxation
            of singles if we don’t get married we can stick the married people with the medical bills
            since we’ve had to pay for their taxes

          • Anonymous

            Then you care more about being single than having those benefits, so you choose not to marry.
            I don’t see where you are being denied any opportunities here.

        • Anonymous

          exactly right!  

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know what offends me more, your totally ridiculous post or that 22 people (as I write this) actually liked it.

        I hope that someday, someone of your ilk WILL think you’re gay so you can get a sampling of what some gay people have to put up with.

      • Anonymous

        That’s a silly reason. That’s not why people think you’re gay.

      • Anonymous

        “I don’t want people thinking that if I say I’m married that I’m gay”? Really, are you retarded or something?? That’s just plain ignorance and homophobia!

      • Anonymous

        “for 500 plus years” ?
        Was there a vote around 1512 on it ?
        Got a link ?
        I love learning new things.

        But if not, if you can’t explain why “for 500 plus years”, why should we be required to pretend to respect the opinion of fools who don’t make any sense … like those who say “‘ I don’t want people thinking that if I say I’m married that I’m gay. ” ?

      • Anonymous

        No one is going to think you are gay because you are married!  Thats silly.

      • Anonymous

        Why would ANYONE (except maybe in your narrow minded circle of friends) think you were gay just because you said you are married? That has to be one of the most ridiculous arguments that I have ever heard. By the way, I’m straight, so’s my wife, and we’re married and we don’t feel threatened by the concept of gay marriage in any way shape or form. If you feel threatened, then maybe you should do some serious soul searching.

      • notateapartier

        Ansel, if you are worried that you are putting out that “gay vibe”, then get a t-shirt or a bumper sticker that says “I’m not gay”, introduce yourself to others as “I’m Ansel, I’m not gay”, act really macho and date multiple hot women and make sure that everyone knows that you are having a lot of heterosexual sex.
        That should work.

      • Anonymous

        If I met you in a casual situation and you told me you were married, I would not assume you were gay. In fact, I might assume the opposite. In the long run, if you corrected me and told me I was wrong, I would not care. In my belief system, God made all of us in His image or likeness. Does that mean that God is gay. No, I don’t believe so as most of us don’t think of God as a sexual being. What it does mean, is that he gave us each an immortal soul and the ability to make our own choices. I don’t believe being gay is a choice, but rather something that is predicated by our genes, but marriage is and ought to be a choice between two PEOPLE who love each other and choose to merge their lives into a single unit called a family.

      • Anonymous

        This sounds like a very sensible point of view.

        After all, once interracial marriage was legalized nationwide, everyone thought their spouse was of another race.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly. Why should we have to vote on this year after year after year?

      • Anonymous

        Because enough people signed a petition to have the question put back on the ballot again.

        • Anonymous

          Cyclical logic. There is no reason why an idea rejected multiple times should keep coming up for vote. Over and over and over again.  

          • Of course there is. The exact set of people that rejected is not the same exact set of people that wanted it changed. People die, people are born, people change their minds, people educate themselves.

          • Anonymous

            Only RINOs  are allowed to change their minds !

            : 0

          • Anonymous

            Right, the people have spoken & will speak again.

          • Anonymous

             Because people were lied to and now they realise that,, an what  to vote  so they can  marry

          • Anonymous

            This is only the second time we have voted on it. Those who opposed it brought it before the voters last time. 

          •  its the third time we have voted on this issue.

          • Anonymous

            WRONG

          • Anonymous

            I count twice, 2009 and 2012.

            What is this third time you are claiming? Please share the date.

          • Anonymous

            Please list the dates of the three times and who brought it to vote each time. 

          • Anonymous

            The reason is because enough people think it should be on the ballot again because they were willing to sign their name to put it back on the ballot again.

            I am sure -if- it passes, there will be ballots passed around to repeal it.

          • Anonymous

            > “I am sure -if- it passes, there will be ballots passed around to repeal it.”

            Suah … bring it on.
            I’ll be proud to vote for equal rights again.

            But that will mean what to those who get married in the mean time ?Aren’t vows sacred  ?

            : 0

          • Anonymous

            Civics class FAIL right there.

            Maine obviously needs to invest more in education.

          • Anonymous

            Is Civics Class still a high school requirement ?

            But knowing it WAS once required, you can  sure tell who was asleep in high school, and who still are.

          • Anonymous

            Tell that to the casino owners.Maine voters rejected casinos multiple times before they bought their way to victory.  

      • This is only the 2nd time it has been voted for in Maine.

        • Anonymous

          sure about that?

          • 100% positive and if the trend stays the same this will be the last time it is ever voted on.

          •  you are 100% wrong.

          • No, I’m not. Same sex marriage is now legal in Maine.

          • Anonymous

            No Brad, Kevin is 100% correct….2009 and 2012.

            2009 was a repeal of a law passed by the legislature and signed in to law by the Governor.

            2012 was a citizens initiative petition.

            Those are the only two times this has been voted on.

          • Anonymous

            No sir, you are 100% wrong, check your facts.

          • Anonymous

            … ” the last time it is ever voted on.”

            Should be, but so what if not ?
            Just how many people turn 18 each year ?

            I’d say do the math, but those opposed to equal rights are anti-science , mostly, too.

        •  no its the third.

          • Anonymous

            No Brad….2009 and 2012.

            2009 was a repeal of a law passed by the legislature and signed in to law by the Governor.

            2012 was a citizens initiative petition.

            Those are the only two times this has been voted on.

          • Anonymous

            What years have we voted on it? Who brought each before the people each time. I only count two.

      •  Because you keep getting it wrong. Be nice. Play fair.

        • Anonymous

          Play fair? What the heck does that mean? Tell that to the Vermont Innkeepers who were sued and can no longer hold ANY wedding receptions at thir inn because they turned away a gay wedding reception, to a couple who weren’t even FROM Vermont. 

          That’s wrong, IMO.

          •  Discrimination is not playing fair. Be nice. Play fair.

          • Anonymous

             an they lied to  . If you knew the law an  maine has the same law its called discrimination if you are open to the p0ublic you can’t discriminate .

          • Anonymous

            They decided to withdraw from that business to get a lesser fine.  Stop exaggerating that.

          • Anonymous

            Too bad for them.  You can’t discriminate because you don’t like something or someone if you are open for business.  I am sure they no longer hold any wedding receptions because they won’t hold receptions for gays or lesbians.  It’s their choice, check it out.

          • Anonymous

            You do understand that ad was a total lie. No body takes away their right to hold marriage at their Inn because they refused a gay couple. If you think everything you hear in an ad is truth you might want to reevaluate your thought process. Every political race these days turns to slam ad because they can’t think of a positive thing to say when they either running for a race or passing a referendum. I hope before everyone votes they vote their conscience because there is no reason for anyone to be discriminated against for any reason. Elections used to be run on principal not who can lie better than the other guy. Whether you voted for or against is the right vote for yourself and in every election there is a winner and a loser based on the majority of the vote and hopefully not the one who lies better than the other. The great thing about America is that every person is equal no matter their race, their sexual orientation, their religion, their political affiliation, etc. Everyone is entitled to one vote and it is right no matter which side of the aisle you are on. So thanks for all your opinions and votes for that is what makes us a free society. When we all wake up tomorrow we are still the same person we were today and I am proud to be an American and free to choose the right path for myself and for every other free person should be proud of themselves for following their own beliefs. 

          • Anonymous

            A) The Vermont innkeepers weren’t sued because they wouldn’t perform a wedding, they were sued because they violated a non-discrimination law that says if you offer a service to the public you cannot discriminate. The service they were sued for not providing was a RECEPTION, not a wedding. B) The INNKEEPERS chose to no longer hold ANY events at their inn because they no longer had an events planner who left their employee long before the suit was filed and they decided they couldn’t afford to hire another one. You’re a perfect example of the lemmings that follow the right-wing drivel and believe anything you hear that remotely supports your bias whether there’s any truth to it or not.

          • Anonymous

            That wasn’t about gay marriage, that was about Vermont’s 1992 anti-discrimination law. Besides, the innkeepers decided to stop performing weddings before they were even sued.

          • Anonymous

            By the way, Maine has the exact same law about discrimination based on sexual orientation on the books since 2004. If you offer a product or service (public accommodation in legal parlance) you cannot refuse to offer that product or service to a person(s) based on sexual orientation in Maine. That was the law yesterday, last week and last year.

      • Anonymous

        Those against it brought it before the voters last time. This is only the second time that it has been voted on. 

        •  its the third time we have voted on this.

          • Anonymous

            You just keep telling yourself that lie

          • Anonymous

            You’re admitting to voter fraud? 

            Because that’s the only way you could vote 3 times when this has only come up for a vote in 2009 and 2012.

      • Anonymous

        You don’t have to. If you don’t want to vote, don’t; if you have such a problem with people having the right to put issues on the ballot, MOVE somewhere where they aren’t allowed to.

    • Anonymous

      54% yes-46% no…….YES!

      • The number is going to fluctuate for sometime but let us just hope Yes stays ahead of the No.

        Edit: As I said, it will fluctuate. The no’s have closed the gap.

      • Anonymous

        Lots of  huggies & kissies tomorrow if it passes  How cute!!!!

        •  A lot of “I do’s” in days to come as well!!!!

          • Anonymous

            > A lot of “I do’s” in days to come as well!!!!

            Yeah. 
            Good.
            I hadn’t thought that far along.
            That should be a boost to local economy, then, too.
            How cool, the right thing AND GOOD FOR BUSINESS, too.

            Congratulation, and best wishes , in advance of the blessed event, to all my friends !

        • And you lost so no huggies and kisses for you.

    • Anonymous

      > “Exactly. Why should we have to vote on this year after year after year?”

      We will keep voting, just like the abolitionists, until the nation gets it right.

      Are all American equal or not ?

      • Anonymous

        The results are in and Dirigo

    • Anonymous

      Look at the breakdown…the younger the voter, the more SSM is supported.  This is moving in our favor, even if it doesn’t happen this time around. 

      The anti-gay herd is thinning, so you might want to get used to it.  IF you win this one, savor it, because change is coming.

      Nevermind…we won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • brooke getchell

      You’re a disgrace to humanity Ansel and whinewhinewhine… You must be sad human beings, caring so much of what people would think of you if you were gay. Marriage has been redefined many times over the years, what do you think divorce was…”Til death do you part” is now “Until you get sick of them”. If you don’t want gay marriage, DON’T MARRY A MAN….don’t take right to love as people want away from ones who deserve it.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you, Brooke. You are a class act. 

    • Anonymous

      WE MUST SPEAK OUT UNTIL THERE IS EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW FOR ALL REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL CORRECT TERMS !

      So would you  NOW sign a petition to change how the people voted, finally ?
      What would yours say is the politically correct “definition of marriage” ?

      I support your RIGHT to,  though … , if you don’t mind being really hypocritical, NOW, 
      whinewhinewhine.

      I’ll be happy to vote for equal rights for all, again.
      Why didn’t you, two times in a row  ?

      But I’m oh, so sorry, that in your conservative, no compromise world you can’t change your mind,  and two more years of new voters should have no say, because you already have, Boss.

      Get over yourself and it.
      How does it effect YOUR life, really, anyway ?

    • Anonymous

      Yes, I remember when the people spoke— last night, loud. and. clear.

      I look forward to your eventual realization that gay marriage does not harm you in the slightest, and allowing ALL Maine families equal rights is a good thing for Maine.

    • Anonymous

      Seems the Maine people HAVE spoken when it comes right down to it. Civil rights must NEVER  be put to a popular vote, but since they have…BTW how many times did we vote on the casino issue? And yes, it IS a relevant question.

    • notateapartier

      Oh, stop whining.

  • “We believe we’ve conducted this campaign in an honorable way, in a respectful way. Now we just have to wait.” – Protect Marriage Maine.

    Anything but!

    http://elections.americablog.com/2012/10/gay-marriage-maine-lies.html

    • Anonymous

      check out the latest story about swastikas painted on church signs …..that is honorable? or what happened in Gorham Middle School…..

      • Anonymous

        What about the stealing of Yes signs and all the lies and scare tactics? Pathetic!

        • Anonymous

          I believe that went both ways, didnt you see the video of Portland people ripping the signs up off the main drag and putting them in the trash?  Many people did it…I have heard of more SSM side ripping up signs than the other way around.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, we saw that FAKE video, and we all had a good laugh at how obvious a fake it was.

          • SierraTango

            That video looked staged, and the video author repeatedly refused to answer the question of whether or not they contacted the police about the alleged sign theft.

      • Anonymous

        Just WHAT does the graffiti have to do with same gender Mainer couples?  And the STUDENTS asked the questions!  Fail and fail.

    • Anonymous

      You ran a nasty campaign full of lies and deceit, you should be ashamed of yourselves! 

  • Anonymous

    I’m posting this here because the moderators at the BDN pay attention to divisive issues … fairly enough.

    So, wow, great election reporting EXECPT which voting districts have reported ?

    I searched for the best reporting on the Maine returns.
    It is on BDN .

    But why not : with Passadumbscot, Castle Rock, Cabot’s Cove and Passawaddiquaddimocken reporting ?

    My point is serious … current returns are based upon what reporting districts … please  ?
    File it for the next two years, but remember it,please, to make Bangor proud.
    Constructive criticism intended… otherwise … wow nice job.!

    Thanks.

    • Anonymous

      I quote the BDN:

      GAY MARRIAGEYES
      48%
      7,502NO
      52%
      8,088

      Where  these returns are based upon?
      It matters to informed voters

    • Anonymous

      The BDN is self-serving in its reporting on this issue. Since they are for SSM, they have deliberately not reported stories that would make that side look bad. I hope they have to eat crow.

      • Anonymous

        Ah-yup, and your opinion is worth something, but so is lobster bait.

        • Anonymous

          Lobster bait is worth a great deal more.

          • Anonymous

            The voice of record, the voice of Northern and Central Maine.  all that these parts north and  downeast of Lewiston  deserves more respect than you seem to have, Sah.

  • “We believe we’ve conducted this campaign in an honorable way, in a respectful way. ”

    Then perhaps they can explain how so many of the YES on 1 campaign signs just up and disappeared about a week or two ago? I noticed it in both central Maine and in Portland.  I seriously doubt that the supporters of same sex marriage took them down early!  Honorable?  Respectful?  Legal?

  • Anonymous

    Proudly voted “Yes” on Question 1!

    • Anonymous

      Proudly voted No. 

      • Anonymous

        Your no vote was an attempt to subvert the Constitution.  You should be ashamed, not “proud.”

        • Anonymous

          Right wingers only care about the 2nd Amendment, they are ok with ignoring the 14th for the last 144 years.

        • Anonymous

          Love the way some interpret history to suit their own needs. 

        • Anonymous

           See…that’s the problem with your movement.  You got just over half the population to accept what you want…but it’s never enough.  This one individual that are accusing of subverting the Constitution is part of nearly 50% of the Maine population who you will not gain acceptance from with this style of thinking!

      • Proudly voted Yes.

        • County Escapee

          Maryland’s voters went for it too. Another state that saw beyond the misconceptions and fears.

        • Tom Russell

          Figures.

          • Anonymous

            T om, don’t like it?  Don’t do it.  

            You are so against it I do believe you actually enjoy thinking about two men together.  It gives you a twang, doesn’t it?

      • Anonymous

        > “Proudly voted No. ”
        Sorry, but the majority rules.

        Now relax, YOUR  life remains unchanged, while other free Americans join in sharing the rights you have always taken for granted.

        It’s a good thing where there is supposed to be equality for all and equal treatment under the law.

        So seriously, no worries, right ?
        Rest easy.

        • Anonymous

          It only remains unchanged until someone sues him for not wanting to provide some service for the happy couple.  Hopefully we can then have a new referendum undoing that which we have just done.

          • Anonymous

            “It only remains unchanged until someone sues him for not wanting to provide some service for the happy couple.”

            Discrimination based on sexual orientation has been illegal in Maine since 2004.

          • Anonymous

            Doesn’t mean I agree with the principle or agree with adding more protecyed categories to the list.
            If a man runs a company and he wishes to limit his customer base by whatever method he chooses then his freedoms should be protected as well.  If that means he is free to run his business into the dirt than so be it.  All you do with these sort of laws is take away one persons freedom to do what he wishes with his property in order to give another person something they can get elsewhere without making a political statement.

          • Anonymous

            Just to be clear you would have no issue if a store owner refused to serve….

            You because you are a Christian and the store owner said “I saw the cross around you neck and I want you to know I refuse to serve anyone of the Christian faith. Please leave my store now.”

            Or

            A hotel/motel refuses to rent a room to your unmarried daughter.

            Or

            Your looking for a job and the store has a sign that says “No Irish Need Apply”

            All of the above religion, gender and national origin are protected classes just like sexual orientation.

          • Anonymous

             Would I have an issue with any or these things?  YES

            However, I support the right of INDIVIDUALS to make these decisions.  I believe that the original supreme court decisions to extend the concept of equal protection under the law, (the basis for preventing any form of discrimination by the GOVERNMENT), to individuals is wrong constitutionally.  This is just another part of progressivism giving government power over individuals.

            Individuals should be convinced to not discriminate by public pressure and education, not by imposition of law.  Thinking that a law will change things in this area is wishful thinking.  anyone who wishes to discriminate now simply uses another, legal, excuse to do so and people are left not knowing the truth.

          • Anonymous

            Unfortunately we don’t live in a utopia nor a Star Trek episode and discrimination is alive and well in the U.S.

            So when we cannot end discrimination through “public pressure and education” that is typically when the state and federal government steps in.

          • Anonymous

            That is right, we do not live in a utopia nor a Star Trek episode. (As much as I love Star Trek, did you ever pick up on the pure Marxist utopia portrayed?)

            So what makes you think that State or Federal government or all the laws in the world will ever end it? In fact, misguided attempts to enforce anti-discrimination laws actually result in more discrimination because of the resentment and animosity created. Even worse, because most people still discriminate but effectively cover up their real motivation we do not even know the true extent.

            Education and public pressure work but they do take more time.

          • Anonymous

            So how long does one wait? 10, 20, 50, 100, 150 years for education and public pressure to work?

            The Civil War ended in 1865. The military was forced to desegregate in 1947. That’s 82 years. A black unit was one of the most decorated units in WWI. The Tuskegee Airmen fought and died in a segregated unit in the 15th Air Force and escorted white bomber groups but couldn’t eat or socialize with those bomber crews.

            So how long does one wait Trickle?

            Oh and the first interracial kiss on network TV: Nancy Sinatra and Sammy Davis, Jr on Sinatra’s variety special December 11th, 1967. That’s 102 years so how long does one wait for education and public pressure to work?

          • Anonymous

            Sorry but I thought I was very clear before, unless you’re just looking to keep the conversation going.
            If you own a business, it is your property and it is not any sort of local monopoly I firmly believe the government has no place telling you what limiters you wish to place on your business.  If you wish to exclude people with Blue eyes because you have a blue eye phobia then do it.  I’ll open a business across the street and provide that service at your expense.

          • Anonymous

            So if you own a gun shop you should be able to sell to anyone?

            What about alcohol and tobacco products? Should the government limit who you can sell to and at what age?

            If you own an apartment building should you be allowed to board up exits so people can’t skip out without paying you rent?

            Those pesky smoke detectors that the government forces you to place in rental apartments are such a bother too since you have to replace batteries in them and who pays the cost of that?

            If you want to discriminate because someone has blue eyes have at it. May freckles bother you too. If they do don’t sell them your product or service and there is not one thing the state can do.

            But if you wish to discriminate against someone because they are black, Jewish, lesbian, Arabic, have a cleft pallet, are a woman, or have are bipolar you are going to have a problem. You don’t have to like it, but that’s the law.

            If you don’t like it, write your Representative or Senator and ask them to sponsor a bill to repeal it. Or you could state a people’s veto if you think you can garner enough registered voters on the petition.

            But until you do it’s the law and it doesn’t matter if you like it or not.

          • Anonymous

            Most of your little rant there is not relevant to the conversation so I will ignore it and just address what we were discussing.
            For now I still have a little freedom of speech but I expect those of you who don’t like what I have to say will fix that too soone enough and I can speak out about your attack on the first amendment through these actions.  Your right I can’t do anything else because you and those like you own the system.  That being said I can still speak out about it for now.

          • Anonymous

            Well your response was unresponsive to the questions asked.

            Now lets address your post one point at a time –

            “For now I still have a little freedom of speech but I expect those of
            you who don’t like what I have to say will fix that too soone enough and
            I can speak out about your attack on the first amendment through these
            actions.”

            Who is limiting your Freedom of Speech? Not me and I don’t see anyone flagging your posts either. And SSM does not limit Freedom of Religion either. It really does the opposite. It allows those religious groups that want to perform a marriage ceremony for a same sex couple to perform them. It also says if a religious group doesn’t want to perform a marriage ceremony they don’t have to and there are no consequences for refusing to do so.
            ~~~~~
            “Your right I can’t do anything else because you and those like
            you own the system.”

            I “own the system”? Well if that is the case I want a do over on Tuesday nights election results because the person I voted for was not elected President. We get it….you don’t agree with the people voting to allow SSM. OK, don’t get one. SSM does not devalue my marriage one bit. It doesn’t change one thing in my life. It also doesn’t devalue your marriage (assuming you are married) or change one thing in your life either unless you allow it. That is your choice.
            ~~~~~
            “That being said I can still speak out about it for
            now.”

            You can speak out about it today, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, etc…No one is or has limited your right to do so.

          • Anonymous

            Actually you still don’t get it.
            I could care less who marries whom.  Marry your dog if you wish.
            Do not force me to rent you a motel room for the honeymoon!
            Do not make it illegal for me to call you a name because you chose to marry a dog.
            When you do either of these things you take away two very important freedoms and that is what I do not agree with.  I am not the least bit religious.  This is not a religious issue for me.   It is an issue of freedom.  I am fine with these people getting married and I don’t care if you call it marriage or whatever.
            I want this government and State governments to stop forbiding people from speaking out about the things they do not like in whatever manner they wish to speak out.  I want this government and the State to stop claiming more and more control over what people do with thier personal property (their business).

          • Anonymous

            Actually you don’t get it.

            No one has taken anything from you. You are just as whole today as you were November 5th.

            You are also free to say whatever you want about any group of people you want. Sure, there is a penalty when you participate in discrimination but that doesn’t prevent you from speaking your mind or limiting who you serve in your business.

            The state and Feds say you can say what you want and not serve who you want but be prepared to pay the penalty. Same thing with a speed limit. The state sets the speed limit but they don’t put a governor on your car. You can go 100 mph if you wish. You just have to be prepared to write the check at the end of the day.

            So bottom line, if you want or wish to discriminate based on any of the protected classes have at it. Stand up for your principles and speak your mind, serve who you want to serve at your business. That is your right. The state and Feds might come knocking on your door but if you really believe in your position you will be prepared to pay the penalty. Just like those Patriots stood on their principles in 1776.

          • Anonymous

            Do you have any idea how silly that sounds?
            It is OK for me to practice freely as long as I am willing to face a penalty for doing so.
            It’s amazing to me that you can put yourself through such mental gymnastics to try and prove to yourself that my rights have not been taken away.
            Will you practice the same sort of rationilization when they take away something you cherish?

          • Anonymous

            You want to stand up and speak out? Do it.

            You want to change the law(s) that are on the books concerning discrimination stand up and petition your elected representative. Take a stand. Do something about it.

            If your elected representative won’t put a bill in the hopper then start a petition drive to force a people’s vote on it.

            Basically do what the Yes on 1 group did. They stood up. They gathered the signatures to get it on the ballot. They convinced enough people to vote for it and SSM will soon be legal in Maine.

            Don’t like some? Do what is necessary to change it. I took a stand. I spoke with family members. I spoke with friends. I spoke with co-workers. And we ALL voted. And one side won and one side lost.

            So rather then whining about something do something about it. It takes a great deal more courage to try and change something in the face of people calling you every name under the sun then it does to whine about what you “lost” when nothing has been taken away from you.

          • Anonymous

             Rights should never, ever be the subject of a voter popularity contest — never!

          • Anonymous

            Very true but you only seem to care about one sides rights in this issue.

          • Anonymous

             Exactly what rights are the “other side” losing?  Would be most interested in hearing your thoughts on this …

          • Anonymous

            Freedom of speech and the freedom to use their property as they choose or provide a business service to only those people they choose to do business with.  This is their property and you took control of it and also took away their ability to express their beliefs no matter how offenxive those beliefs are to you.  Words will never hurt me, now means, words can get me put in jail. 

          • Anonymous

            That’s not about gay marriage, that’s about discrimination. Maine has protected gays and lesbians from discrimination since 2005, using the same laws that protect your choice of religious views.

          • Anonymous

            Not even close to being the same rights.  My rights to my religious views do not give me the right, nor should they, to force anyone to perform and service for me.

          • Anonymous

            You misunderstand our Constitution then.

            Maine’s discrimination laws protect both you and I from being discriminated against in housing, employment, and services from businesses open to the public.

            The 1st Amendment protects churches from having to perform marriages for anyone they don’t want to marry— this has been true for 200+ years. Catholic churches routinely refuse to marry excommunicated Catholics, as just one example.

            There are no rights that I have that you do not have. And now that civil marriage for same-sex couples has been passed in Maine, our government treats us both equally under the laws of civil marriage, too!

          • Anonymous

            I don’t misunderstand our constitution, I don’t agree with it. 
            This part to be exact, “protect both you and I from being discriminated against in housing, employment, and services from businesses open to the public”.  I believe that the property owner should have been able to keep his right to say no when it comes to he does business with. 
            I believe you gave others the right to take away this person’s freedom of speech when you made the changes to our constitution that enacted these “special protections”.  If there were some sort of monopoly on a business or service or if it was owned by the public I would have no problem with forcing service but I do no like the government forcing any of the people to do anything if it is not needed

          • Anonymous

            Well, to be honest we’re both in agreement there. I am not a fan of ‘hate crime’ laws for example, and I also believe someone owning a private business should be free to decide who to do business with.
            My point is that there aren’t any laws protecting gays and lesbians that do not also protect Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Baptists, Methodists, Mormons, etc.

          • Anonymous

            I agree with your point and I was not claiming that there were laws different from one group than another.  Like you though it is the hate crime laws I am against.  I think these laws do two very bad things.  First it takes away one persons freedom in order to protect anothers freedoms (most of the time when there is no protection needed), but more importantly to me and I think it should be important to others is it actually hides a problem that we should all be able to see otherwise.  If there is a person out there who has a hate on for a certain group of people and runs a business wouldn’t it be really nice to know what his or her real views are?

      • Anonymous

        Hehehehe

      • Tedlick Badkey

        Loser!

      • Anonymous

           I had hoped, one day soon I could write, that at one time in our country, only a man and a woman= a marriage, because people strongly believed that they were protecting something and this too has been redefined. This is that day!
         
          I hope to never again  be reminded or see, one of those sorry signs.

    • Randall Flagg

       my main concern with the whole gay marriage thing in Maine centers on the fact that if a pastor, reverend, priest, town official, judge etc. doesn’t want to marry a gay couple they could be sued. i don’t care if gays get married as much as the fact it intrudes on individual rights if someone has a belief to not marry these people. then there are those people who compare it to the civil rights issues of the 1960s. Please stop comparing the two – african americans suffered far greater indignities than gays/lesbians have.

      • Tom

         Private churches can openly deny performing marriage ceremonies on any couple of their choosing. Private businesses can openly deny services to anyone they choose.

        Question 1 protects churches as well. Churches will not be required to marry same-sex couples if they do not wish to do so.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, let them try to refuse one and watch the lawsuits fly!

          • Tom

            Frivolous lawsuits are not anything new.

      • County Escapee

        Too bed you didn’t read the bill. Maryland’s referendum also passed with that provision, and it’s never happened here in Mass in almost 10 years!

      • Anonymous

        I think not now because when your “equal” you lose special rights, you have to take No as No.
         But the bad thing is now it’s discrimination against unmarried couples who have 1,100 less rights than everyone else. unmarried couples have been attacked by higher taxes to pay for married peoples tax deductions.

        • Anonymous

          yes, true.  but marriage is now an option for everyone, so….it is a fair system.

          • Anonymous

            We have to pay higher income  taxes and inheritance tax  if we should inherit life insurance and thats discrimination

          • Anonymous

            There is no “inheritance” tax and life insurance proceeds pass tax-free to the beneficiary unless dividends or other income has been earned by the policy.  If there is income associated with the policy that portion of the proceeds is subject to income tax.

          • Anonymous

            There it is folks it was all a lie.

          • Anonymous

            no it’s not, since everyone one has equal access to life insurance.

          • Anonymous

            we don’t we are single

          • Anonymous

            Single people can’t buy life insurance?  I admit, I don’t know much about insurance, but I’ve never heard that single people can’t buy life insurance.

          • Anonymous

            Didn’t say can’t get it but I would have to pay tax on it should they die first. It’s just another of the 1,100 rights single people don’t have that gays and married do.

          • Anonymous

            hey look – i’m for a flat tax, so I hear you loud and clear on that issue.  

            but, in your first sentence, who is “they” that die?  your significant other?  then you’re not really ‘single’, you’re just two people who choose not to marry.I do take exception to your ‘gays and marrieds’.   gay people are  not treated any differently under the law (now).  they have equal access to marriage, just like you and i do.

          • Anonymous

             Insurance companies practice discrimination in a thousand different ways.If you don’t like it change the laws.I’d LOVE to see insurance companies reined in.I don’t hold my breath for it.

          • Anonymous

            If I was to fight to make changes it would be for those who help not those who don’t so are you in?

        •  You gave us one of the 1100, what are the rest?  This is just a change for Maine and not the nation so what 1100 things does Maine do for married people?

          • Anonymous

            Gee looking back  thats not what you said a few days ago.You tell me it’s all we’ve heard for  a year.
            My company has made a point of hiring people considered minorities, single people, women, A.A. and gays etc.
            I had to let go those who are no longer considered minorities today.

        • Anonymous

          You have the opportunity to get civil marriage if these rights are important to you.

          Isn’t equality great?

        • Anonymous

          That will be the next point of discussion but I doubt that will change.Single people have always been screwed in the legal/financial system and that won’t change,sadly.

          • Anonymous

            Gee your really encouraging

          • Anonymous

             I would like to see insurance companies be fair to everyone but it will never happen.Cherry picking has gone on forever and always will unless it’s strictly regulated-even then they are workarounds.The sooner we get the Karen Ignagnis out of the room,the sooner everyone wins except them.
            I am certainly in if you can get insurance cos. to behave responsibly and be fair.If you can figure out how,let me know.

          • Anonymous

            If we got rid of medical insurance companies we all could afford more life insurance and change the rules. Should have voted in Johnson.
            Look forward to your help.Have a good day and watch those slippery roads.

      • Anonymous

        thank you for your honest comment.  Your is a legitimate concern, and I would like to assure you that it is a false rumor.

        1. The Yes vote allowed churches pastors to say no if they chose not to perform a ceremony tha was against their beliefs.
        2. For the rest of us, discrimination was illegal in the US before yesterday.  The vote did not affect discrimination laws.

      • Anonymous

        Religious officials (pastor, reverend, priest, etc…) are Protected from law suits.

        Civil officials (town official, judge etc…) are by definition there to serve ALL people and will be expected to serve ALL people equally.

      • Anonymous

        So what you’re saying here is that you failed to actually read the change in the law, and how it specifically exempts religious leaders from performing marriages of same-sex couples. You probably missed that one because you’ve spent all day trolling on here. Oh, as a side note, you always could marry in this state without any sort of religious figure being present. 

      • Anonymous

         You are so wrong on these points.  Stop believing the lies, please?

    • Tom Russell

      You should be ashamed.

    • Anonymous

      and since you are all about equal treatment, I can only assume you find the idea of affirmative action and preferential hiring practices to be reprehensible since they are clearly discriminatory (and you would vote against any candidate who thought they were good ideas).

  • Anonymous

    Looking good.  In a way I do feel sorry for the G/L group, I really do not like to see anyone hurt or unhappy.  But they do need to change their approach– next time around I will vote yes for your rights to be recognized as a united couple who deserve the same rights as a married couple.  Please change your definition—  no one wants to deny anyone the benefits that come with  a legal union, but marriage will always be 1 woman, 1 man.  Please understand it is all in the definition.

    • Anonymous

      You say that, but when civil unions have been up to a vote, they’ve still been voted down. 

      Heck! Even when we were debating whether to include sexual orientation in our non-discrimination laws people said “well what’s next!? they’re going to want more and more!” I somehow doubt that you would support marriage rights under another name. 

    • Guest

      Yes

    • Anonymous

      Speaking of needing to change their approach …

    • Anonymous

      and what about churches that do not mind marrying them?

    • Anonymous

      Your name is SO appropriate!  Marriage in Maine will be two adults, whether male or female, who commit to taking care of each other.  Get over it.

    • Anonymous

      Sure looks like it’s the anti-gays that feel hurt and unhappy.  Oh, well, they’ll get over it, after another 10-20 years of making FOOLS out of themselves whining to anyone who they can force to listen.

    • There will be no next time. It passed.

      • Anonymous

         I hope you’re right.Just remember the antis have boatloads of cash that they skim from the sheep every week.I’m sure PMM has lawyers on retainer.They can afford it.

        • Thor just told me it is all good, so don’t worry.

          • Anonymous

             Cool.And in other news the WoW candidate won.If that kerfuffle doesn’t make every end of year silliness list,I don’t know what will.

  • Anonymous

    Looking Good Maine with it this close early in the returns!!

  • Anonymous

    I think this is going to be a lot closer than comment boards would have you think.

  • Andrea

    Why do The Religions think they “own” marriage? Marriage was practiced well before the concept of God was even thought of. God is not invited to my heterosexual wedding….does that mean my marriage ceremony will not be valid and I won’t be married? Of course not, because religion has nothing to do with marriage. If I have to tolerate road signs stating “Only God can save you!” or “Andrea, you are surely going to burn in hell.”, then The Religions can tolerate the sight of two people in a loving and committed marriage, whatever sex they are.

    • Anonymous

       You will see that the church said it should be a religious thing an that was only 200 years ago  .. Do a search for  “The history of marriage  ”  I also found out that 4,000 years a go that marriage was not done for love an t it was  could mean death to the women if she did fall in love with her man

  • Anonymous

    Question: Can this referendum get repealed by the legislature, or are referendums good ‘forever’?

    • No, they cannot. This was a popular vote and is a done deal.

      • Anonymous

        I thought so, was just checking to be sure, and the split looks to be growing as more votes come in. Phew! Now, here’s another question – Does LePage have to sign it?

        • He cannot veto it if that is what you are wondering and I don’t know if he has to sign it.

          • Anonymous

            I could be wrong but I believe LePage when running for governor that if the people made the decision to allow the freedom to marry he wouldn’t do anything to oppose it.  Not that he couldn’t change his mind but I don’t foresee him doing so.

          • Anonymous

            I’m more curious if it’s like those bond issues that were approved in the past by popular vote that he’d just sitting on, refusing to sign.

        • Anonymous

          Measures take effect 30 days after the Governor has proclaimed the results of the election. However, if there are insufficient state funds available for a measure and the initiated measure does not specify a sufficient funding source, the measure’s
          effective date is delayed to allow the legislature to appropriate funds. Such measures take effect 45 days after start of the next legislative session.

          http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Laws_governing_the_initiative_process_in_Maine

          • Anonymous

             So, since this doesn’t involve ‘funds’, there should be no problem.

          • Anonymous

            Current estimate by the Secretary of State as reported in the BDN is January 5th, 2013

    • Anonymous

      Yes, the Legislature could vote to repeal it. However, political decorum says you don’t undo what the people just did.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations Maine on your pending vistory in favor of full equality for all.,  Here in Maryland, it is very close, but we are still ahead 51/49 with 80% of precincts reporting.  Since our polls closed earlier than yours, technically we will be the FIRST (by 1 hour) to approve same-sex marriage by statewide referendum.  But it will be a VICTORY for the residents of both of our states! :)

    • Anonymous

      No, Maine will be the first state to proactively enact gay marriage by vote. Maryland had their legislature do it and then voters affirm it.

      • Anonymous

        “Tastes great–less filling”?  It’s all GOOD!

      • Anonymous

        I did not realize that the Maine question was the result of a voter initiative as opposed to a referendum (like we had in MD).  Both are statewide votes on the issue.  Both passed.  We are the first 2 states in America to support same-sex marriage in a statewide vote by the people.  VICTORY for all of us! :)  Of course civil rights should NOT be subject to popular vote, but the tide has turned!  We will not go back!

    • Anonymous

       Congrats to every state that has done the right thing.Not to be overlooked is that a lot of the pro groups worked with each other and shared scarce resources.Much luck to you!

  • brooke getchell

    You’re a disgrace to humanity Ansel and whinewhinewhine… You must be sad human beings, caring so much of what people would think of you if you were gay. Marriage has been redefined many times over the years, what do you think divorce was…”Til death do you part” is now “Until you get sick of them”. If you don’t want gay marriage, DON’T MARRY A MAN….don’t take right to love as people want away from ones who deserve it.

  • Anonymous

    It appears we have won this one!  Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And to the anti-gay crowd, in your own words from the previous vote on this…”The people have spoken”.

    A landslide victory? Hardly. But a trend worth paying attention to? Believe it.

  • Anonymous

    ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

    I’ve waited so many years to ask this…

     

    Tedlick Badkey, will you marry me?

     

    ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

    • Anonymous

      Good luck!

      • Anonymous

        Best wishes.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      YES!!!

      • Anonymous

        Congrats you two!

        • Tedlick Badkey

          Thanks!

          This is over 20 years in the making!

          • Anonymous

            Congrats to both you and @ConvivialVisits:disqus on your impending marriage!! I wish I knew you both outside of these forums because you both seem to be wonderful people! Here’s to many more years together and happily MARRIED!

          • Tedlick Badkey

            Thanks!!!

    • Haha, what drama queens!  ;D

      Best of luck.

  • cougar 64

    thank you all for removing the natural bond between father mother and child.  you all should be proud of yourselves for wanting to live in a artificial world.  you are all fakes who cannot survive in the real world.  
     

    • Anonymous

      That’s laughable.  We’re surviving in the real world quite nicely.  You need to open your eyes to reality and stop your fear mongering.

      The sky isn’t falling.  In fact, there may even be a few more rainbows in the days ahead.

      And the kids?  They’ll do just fine, as they have been all along.

    • Anonymous

      Wake up, this IS the real world.

      Looks like you’re the one that can’t survive in it now – hope you enjoy how it feels as much as you’ve enjoyed making people you don’t know feel crappy.

    • Anonymous

      ~50% of “conventional” marriages end in divorce.  The are countless single mothers/fathers out there.  There are deadbeat parents that won’t pay child support or be involved with their child’s life.  Where is your outrage about the children in these cases?  

    • The gays will survive just fine, you on the other hand I’m not sure about.

    • Anonymous

      Anti-gays attack anyone who won’t help them hurt LGBT Americans.  Isn’t that just pathetic of them?  Aren’t we all sick and tired of hearing hate speech like that?

    • Joseph

      Equality is not fake. I hope my vote brings happiness to all the beautiful families in Maine. I, we, a state,  support you. You deserve this and always should have been afforded the rights that so many, like the person above,  take for granted.  Cheers for equality.

    • Guest

      The bond is intact. No worries.

  • Anonymous

    DIRIGO: I LEAD

    Am especially proud to be a Mainer tonight. We did the right thing!

  • Anonymous

    SO HAPPY!!!

  • Anonymous

    Awesome. Good for them.

    • Anonymous

      Is the state wide results page loading for anyone else ??? I haven’t been able to get on it all nite..

  • Anonymous

    Thank You Maine!!!

  • The headline went from….

    Gay marriage breakthrough as measure passes in Maine

    Back to…

    Gay marriage question holds slim lead

    And now it reads…

    Gay marriage supporters declare victory

  • Anonymous

    Kind of lame how the BDN changes the article titles to indicate a win, then changes it back to “Slim Lead”.

    Come on BDN.

  • Anonymous

    Congrats, we’re getting married !

  • Anonymous

    To those who fought tooth and nail against SSM…it’s over, you lost.  Now why not adjust to the idea and focus on something more important in your lives.  Then down the road, maybe six months, maybe a year after this becomes law, ask yourself how it has negatively affected you.

    Aside from wedding announcements in the paper, I doubt you’ll ever notice us being equal.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t care what you say…… I’m getting married!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    For this to pass so close to when it was voted down, says something.  I believe that the previous question on the ballot was written deceptively, just like it was in California.  When you give Mainers a CLEAR choice they do the right thing.

  • We did it! Really proud, that we got this right. We did what was fair and just, and that’s something very special.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, Mainer voters!  You have protected your own equality as well.

    • Anonymous

       Congratulations carrotcakeman!  :)

  • Anonymous

    I find it ironic that so many people who oppose gay marriage don’t have any respect for any type of marriage in the first place. These are the same idiots who whine about how much they hate women.

  • Here’s a message for religious fundies: if God really disapproves of gay marriage, God will take care of it.

    God doesn’t need you to do it.

    You portray your version of God as All-Mighty. Do you have so little faith in that, that you have to do what God is apparently too weak to do?

    Or are you afraid that maybe God doesn’t actually want to do it, because God is Love and gay marriage is really about Love.

    In short, whatever your own faith problems are, work them out for yourselves.  Don’t foist them on the rest of America.

    • Anonymous

      God allows us to live by the free assent of our wills in this life.  After we die is when we will be held accountable.  That’s when we all find out just how subject to God that we really are.  Humans can attempt in many ways to rationalize their beliefs about God.  Death is the great equalizer for all those attempts.

      • Tedlick Badkey

        Great day, ain’t it?

  • Randall Flagg

    I PROUDLY VOTED NO ON QUESTION 1!!

    • You probably voted for Mitt Romney too, so…. Not going your way today is it? Lol!

    • And I proudly voted yes on question 1 and look what happened. It passed and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it now. Same sex marriage is now legal in Maine. 

      • Randall Flagg

         we can always make a referendum for next year to vote it out…its been done

        • No, you cannot.

        • Anonymous

          The tide is turning, Randall.  Should this come up again in the future ssm will win by a larger margin than yesterday’s vote.  The older antis will be passing away and the younger voters are much more aware than in the past.  In my opinion, ssm is here to stay so get used to it.

        • Tedlick Badkey

          But marriage has never been taken from those who get married.
          Besides, the courts will fix it once and for all.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      And you lost.

      BWA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA!

    • Anonymous

      and your proudly LOST- BOOM!!!

  • JohnR

     I am always happy when bigots lose. This has no effect on my marriage, I’m not one to go around sticking my nose into others business and peeking into their bedrooms so I don’t care who gets “married” so heck ya.

  • Anonymous

    thanks Mainers. from my family. (still dont believe the founding fathers wanted to have civil rights voted on however..)

    • Life will now be a lot better for many happy gay couples. They can now legally marry, which is awesome.

  • Anonymous

    Where is Our Religious Freedom to have our children grow up to follow the Word of God of our Book of Faith when Civil Law denies us that right by their teaching our children through Civil law that the Word of God can be overturned.  You may have won this round but the battle has just begun.  Your misguided compassion adds caused many to sin against the Word and thus deny God.  Repent.

    • Real life law overturns your so called god’s law and the battle is over. You lost, deal with it. There is no god, no heaven, or hell. Just this life you have today so enjoy it for once before you die because this is the only life you have.

      • Anonymous

         May God reveal himself to you…He has in my community many times over through His prophets and the fulfillment of those prophecies.  Let’s see if God will love you and reveal that this anti-God law should be repealed by His answering my prayer and blowing the top of a big mountain in Africa to bring water to His starving people.   Remember Satan always has a contrite to His order-don’t be fooled.  My prayer…Lord you say that we should not keep your Light hidden under a basket…I ask Lord that You do the same and not keep your Light hidden from this person…reveal yourself and answer my prayer.  Thank you!

         And, before you call me a religious fanatic, let’s give God three days to answer (three for the Trinity).  Welcome to the Charismatic renewal. 

        • I would love for you so called god to reveal himself to me. That is all us atheist have been asking. If your god is real, reveal yourself to me but it never does and it never will because it is not real.

          The vote for same sex marriage is the law of us humans, not the law of your god. Deal with it, you lost and btw, prayer is nothing but talking to yourself. It doesn’t work.

    • Anonymous

      Respect People’s Existence or Expect People’s Resistance……everyone has the right to exist whether you like it or not.

  • Anonymous

    Where is our Religious Freedom to teach our children that the Word of God cannot be voted out?  Making this a Civil law denies us our Religious Liberties…what children see and hear in the secular world they come to believe.  You have just denied the sociology of man and worst yet denied God by saying His Word is False.  The world  may change but the Word of God remains forever unchanging.  To have voted yes was to say there is no God (which is a grave sin)and one that will affect our future generations.   You deny one Constitutional Right…you deny all!  Freedom and Justice will prevail-legally!  This is a self-serving law.

    • There is no god or god’s. Never has been, never will be. All god’s are man made and there are plenty of god’s you reject. You only think you have the right god because how you where raised.

      Your side didn’t just lose in Maine, they also lost in Maryland. It is time for you to deal with the fact that not everyone is religious and not everyone believes in your god and yesterday the people of Maine spoke and now same sex marriage is legal.

      So yes, tonight your god and its so called views where voted out and there is nothing you can do about it. The people of Maine have spoke.

    • Anonymous

      Your religious freedom has not been impacted one iota. You can have your private schools teaching whatever hateful nonsense you want.

      What Constitutional right was denied? I only saw Constitutional rights being upheld!

    • Anonymous

      “Where is our Religious Freedom to teach our children that the Word of
      God cannot be voted out?”

      Your right to teach your children whatever you want is still intact. What you deny is the laws of this country are secular laws. We are a Constitutional Republic and not a Theocracy.

    • Anonymous

      Take a civics class….you are the self serving one on this.

    • Guest

      Then stay secular and live in a bubble. Most people who have extreme views do.

    • Anonymous

      That was a self-serving post.

  • Anonymous

    This country (and state) has officially gone to hell in a handbasket.

    • No, it has not. Tonight Maine did something that has never happened. Same sex marriage was approved by popular vote and now all your anti-same sex marriage folks cannot say a state has never approved it by popular vote because it didn’t happen once, but twice tonight.

    • Anonymous

      wrong as you usually are

    • Anonymous

      May I suggest you do the same? Only skip the handbasket. 

  • Anonymous

    About time!

  • Anonymous

    Tried staying up last night to keep up with the results, but crashed, and just woke up at 4:00 a.m. to check up on things.

    Can’t say I’m disappointed. WOOHOO! Thanks all Yes On 1 supporters! You’ve improved the lives of so many people!

    • I’ve been up all night and you’re welcome. I’m getting ready for bed though. Good thing I get to set my own hours when it comes to work.

  • Anonymous

    The Word of God comes first!  To have voted yes was to say that the Word is FALSE-THAT THERE IS NO GOD.  You have violated the 1st Commandment of God.  And, you have violated my Liberties in creating a self-serving law that will destroy our religious liberty -the right to bring our children  to follow God’s Word first before man.  Repent and repeal!

    • Anonymous

      islam has its fanatics-christianity has theirs

    • So you are a Christian but you ignore all the other god’s that came before your god. How lovely is that and I didn’t need to vote yes to state there is no god because as an atheist I would have told you there is no god on Monday.

      Nobody has violated your liberties, at all. In fact when you voted no you made an attempt to violate the liberties of others but you will never see it that way.

      The law of the land is the word, not your so called god’s law. There will be no repeal. Same sex marriage is now legal in Maine and in Maryland so I suggest you get used to it.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Your mythology lost.

      How wonderful!

    • Anonymous

      God condemns rape and victimization, not love.

      And thankfully, the majority of Mainers surely don’t condemn love.

    • Anonymous

      1. Maine (and the United States) laws are based in secular law.

      2. Your liberties are just as intact today as they were yesterday. You don’t want a gay marriage don’t get one. Don’t want to attend a gay wedding don’t go. Don’t want to attend a gay marriage reception don’t go.

      3. You have every right to bring up your children in any manner you wish. Want to teach them gay marriage is wrong do it.

    • Anonymous

      The word of God may come first to YOU…..the rest of us believe in the CONSTITUTION and equality under the CIVIL LAW……get over yourself.

    • Guest

      No one has violated your liberties. It’s okay and the sky is still intact. No one has hurt your religious freedoms.

  • Anonymous

    I know 2 notaries that are saying they will be proud and pleased to perform SSM

  • Old Bear

    Very sad day in the state of Maine to allow this to happen.

    • Very awesome and great day that yesterday people choose to give everyone the equal right to marry the person they love. Yesterday’s vote was historical. Maine is the first state to allow same sex marriage by popular vote and again, that is awesome. I’m proud to be part of history.

  • Tom

     3 words for ya.

    GAY. BRIDAL. REGISTRY.

    • Anonymous

      LOL Maine’s economy suddenly surges :)

    • Guest

      I’m sure the people involved in these industries will welcome more business.

  • Tom

    Then don’t put one there. It’s simple really.

    • Tom Russell

      We won’t, we will leave that to you.

  • Anonymous

    A sad day indeed for Maine when perversion is supplanted for moral character and integrity. There will be no returning from what has been wrought.

    • A great day for Maine indeed. For those that spread false lies have been silenced.

    • Anonymous

      a sadder day that some still don’t realize how perverted it is to be so obsessed with anothers sex life or marriage–and laddie,you are no one to pass judgement on anyone elses moral character or integrity–you have a full time occupation trying to take care of  your own

    • Tedlick Badkey

      It’s a GREAT day in Maine!

    • Anonymous

      Nope, the perversion of forcing your judgemental attitude onto other Mainers and how they are treated under our laws was pushed back last night, and now our state treats its citizens better, affording ALL Maine families the opportunity for civil marriage.

      Today is a Good Day.

    • Anonymous

      As there is nothing more to be done, you may as well go jump in a lake. 

  • Anonymous

    Kevin,  You have a Right in this country not to believe in God and I will fight to my death to defend that Right of yours… but I also have a Right to believe and to follow God before all else.  If you don’t believe, it maybe that no one brought you the grace to believe.  So, why don’t you humor me and let me pray to God-the one and only-to reveal himself to you.  My prayer:  Dear God, show Kevin you live by answering my prayer-the prayer of a righteous person.  I ask that you blow the top off the biggest volcanic mountain in Africa and bring your people there who are starving and lacking water a new river that will erupt from this explosion.  I thank you for answering my prayer.  Also, bring the aids vaccine to these people-aids, the illness that came into the world through the sin of sodomy.  Amen

    Now before you call me a fanatic, lets give this three days-three to honor the trinity- and when God compels, you will know there is a God and He detest the sin of homosexuality…but loves the sinner and wants them back to His Word.   May God bless us all in this Charismatic renewal!

    • Anonymous

      No one is asking for you to do anything about their rights re: God….worry about your self and let everyone else do the same….just because someone may be gay does not mean they are not religious…..they just don’t fit into your version….and your version in all likelihood isn’t the ‘right’ version for everyone else.  Worry about you and your business and stay out of everyone else’s business.

    • Anonymous

      God does not detest people who are blessed to find loving, supportive, committed relationships. 

  • Anonymous

    Liberty and Justice For All. ‘Nuff said. 

  • Anonymous

    Maine and gays discriminate against unmarried hetro couples.

    • Anonymous

      Then they should get married…

      • Anonymous

        What for? We’re not paying the government to get permission to marry someone which is just a piece of paper that gives the government the right to borrow money, that isn’t there. against the “business” of marriage. Marriage licenses are sold and borrowed from by the government on an open market on Wall street.
          Your being a bigot.
         

        • Anonymous

          What for? For the benefits and privileges our government extends based on marital status.

          If those aren’t important to you, you are free to remain unmarried. If those ARE important to you, you have the opportunity for civil marriage.

          That’s not bigotry, that’s equality.

        • Guest

          I’m unmarried and in a relationship for many, many years, we could get married if we want to, we haven’t decided to yet. 
          We may, we may not, but I have always had that choice. 

          • Anonymous

            We could cut our hands and feet off but that too is a choice and we don’t believe in either.

  • Anonymous

    and using that term just shows you’re an ignorant bigot rather than someone with actual convictions

  • Anonymous

    What’s next, private gay schools? Gay sport’s teams? Gay parks? Should have left things as they were. Now things are just going to get a lot more difficult.

    • Anonymous

      No…just gay marriages.

      Sounds like you had too much coffe this morning. Calm down…this won’t affect your life at all.

    • Anonymous

      Are you aware of any heterosexual schools? Heterosexual sport teams?  Heterosexual parks?

      In a few years, the tern “gay marriage” will not exist. It will be marriage. You seem to missing the germane point that SSM is about making things equal – not about creating new labels and not about making things separate.

      -J

    • Anonymous

      November 6, 2012: The date these lies stopped working.

  • County Escapee

    Wired differently like a south paw….or admitting to being a bender?….

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations to all!
    Be proud of yourselves Mainers, this vote is one of the most (positively) significant in the country.

  • Sad, Sad in Maine. For now you may have won the vote, but you have Not won my Respect or believe in your union :(
     

    • Anonymous

      It’s always been the treatment of Mainers under our government that we were seeking to change, and that has happened! Feel free to continue to hold your judgemental beliefs, that is your right.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Don’t need it.

    • Anonymous

      That’s ok….No one is looking for your respect…really.

    • Anonymous

      The world doesn’t revolve around you. 

    • Anonymous

      No one who is gay wanted to ask you to believe in their unions or have their respect….no one now needs your permission to do anything as so far as getting married……kind like how it worked for you when (if) you got married GO FIGURE.

    • Anonymous

      News flash…there are still people in this country that still do not “Respect or believe in” interracial marriage. You cannot make a person accept what they will not accept. But that doesn’t change what the law is.

    • Anonymous

      Which is completely fine and the way society should work. My only hope is that you maintain your respect for the Democracy that enables the enduring concepts of equality and fairness – even if you do not explicitly believe in the base precepts.

      That is not a trite statement. Personally, I find flag burning to be abhorrent and beyond the pail. Yet, I understand that as an American, I must respect the fact that for Democracy to work, the freedoms of others to express is what is what is important not my personal preferences.

      -J

    • Thats ok. I love, respect and believe in you. God Bless

  • Anonymous

    Wait until “same sex divorces” happen. Voted No.

    Nothing against anyones lifestyle, etc., just my opinion.

    • Anonymous

      And you’re entitled to it— our government should treat us equally under the law, and thankfully the majority of Mainers agreed!

    • Anonymous

      You ARE kidding right?  If your so worried about divorce why not start with TRADITIONAL DIVORCE ?????

      • Anonymous

        I was kidding. My point was there is always a thorn with a rose. Anyone who has been through a divorce knows that they are generally not an enjoyable event, and I would not wish that upon anyone.

  • Tom Russell

    Typical of Maine-ah’s.

    • Anonymous

      Thankfully yes! Maine is indeed, “the way life should be”!

  • Tedlick Badkey

    I’ve never been happier to be wrong in my entire life!!!

    Thanks to my fellow Maine citizens for doing the right thing!

    I love this state!

  • Anonymous

     The result of sucking all the fat out of the heads of nay sayers.

  • Anonymous

    How Thweet !!

  • Anonymous

    domestic abuse, child abuse, sexual assault, divorce.  this is what heterosexual marriage  has brought to the world.

    are are we supposed to keep our marriages violence free?

    • Anonymous

      And same sex marriage is going to correct all of those things ? Gays must truly be heaven sent to be so perfect.

      • Anonymous

        Of course same sex marriage doesn’t fix marriage for us heterosexuals, what a silly thing to say.   My point is:  gay marriage doesn’t ruin it for us either. 

  • Anonymous

    Looking at the article’s picture of Lauren and Katy says it all.  There are no gay pride flags or in-your-face attitudes.  Just real, raw emotion of two people who love each other.  I’m very proud of our state this morning!

    • Anonymous

      You must have missed the pics above.

  • Anonymous

    now can we have a vote to nullify this on every ballot untill it passes?

    • Anonymous

      Peoples’ hearts and minds have changed on this subject. When the the sky obviously doesn’t fall on our state, it’s going to change even more hearts and minds. 

    • Anonymous

      You will be doing that forever. you lost 54-46%. Next time you would lose by an even wider margin.  

  • Anonymous

    Those people who lied about,…denegrated,…and minimalized the LGBT community…

    …you are now in the dustbin of history. 

  • Anonymous

    This is a sad day for my State.

    • Anonymous

      Nah, it’s a great day— and I hope you open your heart to realize same-sex marriage rights for us don’t impact your life a bit.

    • Anonymous

      The majority says otherwise.

      -J

    • Anonymous

      Just the part of it that thinks like you do.  The rest of us are quite happy!

  • Anonymous

    That’s stupid.  Here’s a newsflash, though…straight couples play around in that area, too!!  So until the insurance companies start asking questions about bedroom habits, I don’t think that’s anything you have to worry your little head about.

    • Anonymous

       A lot of the candidates who were so busy snooping around women’s rights lost last night.
      Allen West,Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin for just three.The TP is dead and Koch/Adelson/McMahon are crippled.A wonderful day for America!

    • Anonymous

      What’s insurance?  Is there anybody left in this State that can afford it?

    • EasyWriter

      little head? lol…. pun intended or not

  • Anonymous

    Is that all you can think of, marriage is more than intercourse. This is the problem with people like you.

  • Anonymous

    Highly untrue, highly inappropriate, and FYI there are many heterosexuals in the same boat. Your comment should be removed it is inappropriate.

  • BJ Kitchin

    Ranger, care to comment with your real name?  Or are you not confident in your remarks?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be more than happy for your insurance to pay for you to get a new heart, one with more empathy for your fellow Mainer.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations to the winners,

    With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

  • Anonymous

    The uneducated, ridiculous, ignorant comments like yours and others from the anti gay group are exactly why your side lost. No self respecting person would want to be part of that, and the passing of gay marriage proves it!!  

  • Anonymous

    God tests us all the time. We just flunked, again.

    • Anonymous

      you must be talking about the NO voters like you. perhaps you had best let god worry about it instead of speaking for him/her

    • Anonymous

      You have been flunking for a long, long time…..how about focusing on the divorce rate in this country THAT should keep you busy for eternity…..

    • Anonymous

      You mean you did. You just flunked. 

      • Anonymous

        Yes, sure, that’s what I meant. I condone immorality all the time. I am looking forward to voting on requiring businesses to install 3 different bathrooms now. Male, female, and confused. The handicap symbol can be a question mark. 

        • Anonymous

          We’ll be happy to help you sort out your gender confusion. Real men aren’t threatened by the existence of gays and lesbians. 

          • Anonymous

            I was not speaking of the “L’s” or the “G’s”, we just gave a wink and a nod to their perversion. I was, of course, speaking of the “B’s” and the “T’s” who will now demand special treatment too. Once you start a moral back slide, where does it stop? 

  • Anonymous

    Okay, fellow gays and lesbians— what’s up next on our gay agenda?

    Let’s consult the gay agenda for guidance:
    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html

    Hmmm, looks like we pretty much have things covered in Maine now!

    Next up: the US Supreme Court needs to rule the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional, so our Federal government will honor the marriage rights granted by our state. I think it’s safe to say that one is only a matter of time.

    • Anonymous

      These wins were VERY important in terms of the Supreme Court. It gives the timid Roberts assurance. We saw him switch his vote on Obamacare for fear of being on the wrong side of history. These wins I’m sure will instill that same kind of fear. 

    • Anonymous

      I was going for world domination…. but I guess you can start with SCOTUS and DOMA.  ;)

    • Anonymous

      Is this when y’all start indoctrinating the newborns right our of the womb? Will the destruction and downfall  of society as we know it slow that down?

      -J

    • I am going to take my beautiful fiance to dinner. 

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you call your insurance company and ask them for the answer to your question. They are in a better position to answer it then asking an online forum.

    • Anonymous

      No need, I don’t usually ask a question that I don’t already know the answer to.

      • Anonymous

        Then share the answer” “ranger”

      • Anonymous

        Guess you can’t learn anything here, then. Leave it to those of us who have open minds.

    • EasyWriter

      “They are in a better position …”  Another pun, intended or not…lol. Thank God the BDN hasn’t demanded the Facebook sign in…the comment section(s) on the other papers are now barren wastelands.

  • Anonymous

    And it’s all right for your wife to? Seriously is marriage only about sex?

    • Randall Flagg

       no its about money too

      • Anonymous

        So your marriage is built on a foundation of sex and money. I would say that your marriage if built on such a foundation is a very weak one indeed.

  • Anonymous

    To jd2008jd,
    Yes’ it is secular law but it cannot interfere with my Constitutional rights…your rights ends where mine begins and vice-a-versa.  I have a right to bring up my children to believe in God and His Word.   But, when I bring my children out of my home and my children see woman kiss other woman like a mom and dad do… this interferes with their religious upbringing and will influence their thinking…schools in other states are teaching that these ungodly unions are OK.  Well my faith says other wise and it is unconstitutional for anyone to violate my right to educate my children in My faith.  Do what you want behind closed doors (free will) but don’t influence my children and grandchildren by teaching them through law and by your actions.  This is a true Republic!  As for God being for Love, yes this is true but He set the rules which can be found in the Book of Leviticus: 18:22  “No man is to have sexual relations with another man; God hates that.”

    •  So basically what you’re saying is that the world at large needs to bend over and not take any action what-so-ever to offend your personal point of view.  What a selfish and ignorant attitude.  Not to mention same sex couples are kissing in public before marriage, so that’s not really changing.  Your faith is NOT under attack, you have every right still to teach and practice it (and I personally do believe in that right).  It’s simply unrealistic to expect society to halt everything its doing to keep from offending you.  Do you complain about public acknowledgement of other beliefs you’re opposed to, or is this a new attitude because your way of thinking has lost?

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Muslims should then have the religious freedom to force women to cover themselves?

      Freedom of religion and all…

    • Anonymous

      That’s nonsense. You could use your religion as an excuse to deny people for all sorts of rights in that case. It doesn’t make sense. Teach your kids that being gay is a sin all you want, but your rights don’t allow you to cancel other peoples’ marriages. That’s ridiculous. 

    • Anonymous

      Be concerned, but don’t worry.  The world we live in is becoming more and more Godless, but that doesn’t mean God has disappeared.  We just need to keep our focus on eternity, and to do our best until we get there.  Do the best to teach your kids the difference between right and wrong.  Above all, pray for them.  Pray a lot.  Pray as a family every day.  Prayer is very strong, and it works.

      It’s hard for us as individuals to change the big picture, but we can have influence over small parts of our world.  If you help God to lead your kids to salvation, you will have accomplished very much in the world.  If you can lead even just one or two people from outside your family to salvation, then your life’s accomplishment will be that much greater.  The value of one human soul is infinite.  So just doing your small part for God has value far above than what is available for us in this world.

      Remember that Jesus said we should not fear those who can ki-ll only the body; rather we should fear him who has the power to cast body and soul into hell.  What many of these liberals seem to forget, is that we are all going to die.  Death is the great equalizer for us all. Whatever seems unjust and Godless in this life will be re-balanced by God in the next life, eternal life.  So don’t lose heart.  The Bible tells us that those who persevere to the end will be saved.  Just put your life, and the lives of your kids, into God’s hands, and let him do all the heavy lifting.  Be prepared to die and to meet Jesus Christ at every moment of your life, teach your kids the same, and you will have nothing to worry about.

      • Anonymous

        Maine did the absolute right thing yesterday. It’s about fairness and equality, treating others with dignity in respect despite of differences. 

      • Anonymous

        Sigh……

        • Anonymous

          I’m with’ya !!

        • Anonymous

          Different people have different priorities.  You have yours.  My priority is to try to live a life that’s faithful to God.  You don’t have to agree with mine, if you don’t want to.  After we die, though, we will have no choice but to live according to the priorities that God has for us.

          • Anonymous

            It’s not about my priorities it’s about my right to be free of people who like to shove THEIR  beliefs down MY throat.  If you Believe in the flying spaghetti monster I don’t care just don’t expect or demand that I or anyone else do the same…because I won’t anymore than you should be mandated to believe in what I believe in….if you want to live a life faithful to something great….but that’s where it ends…no on else is required to do the same.  Your rights end where someone else’s rights begin.  After ‘we’ die I will be cremated and be blowing in the wind and that’s the end of that- if you think you are going to be having tea on a cloud somewhere super duper…just don’t expect everyone else to want to join you and your tea party.

      • Tedlick Badkey

        Keep it up!

        It’s sweeter than the finest honey!

      • No one knows Gods will. If you would have won you would have said it was His will. You lost. So now it isnt? 

        • Anonymous

          If you know what the teachings of the Catholic Church are, then you know what God’s will is.  Jesus Christ and his apostles founded Catholicism as a guide to lead people to all what God has revealed to mankind.  If you follow the teachings of Christ’s true church, then you will know what God’s will is for you and for all of humanity.

          • The Catholic Church is an abomination. It worships men, in funny hats. It gives power to men…the Bible strictly prohibits any man to seek office above another in God’s eyes. All men are equal. I follow God. 

          • Anonymous

            And let’s not forget those wonderful Knights Templar, the Knights Hospitalist, and the Teutonic Knights that brought us those exceedingly marvelous times known as the Christian Crusades.

    • Anonymous

      That’s super fantastic if you NEVER plan on letting your kids or grand kids out into the real world….what are they just going to live under a rock here in Maine?  You will find gay people in EVERY SINGLE STATE and EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY of this world as well as black people, Asian people, Atheists, Muslims, short people, tall people, bright people, dim people, etc, etc ,etc…. .  If you do a decent job at home regarding whatever ‘your’ beliefs are then when your kids or grand kids get out into the real world and join the rest of us- they will hold onto those beliefs …. or perhaps they will form a better more rounded and less fearful view of the world they have to share with everyone else who is different then they are somehow.  
      Gay people watch straight people hold hands and kiss all the time in public…think that influences or offends gay people or somehow messes with their religious freedoms??…..funny how it only works that way when it ‘offends’ people like you…it NEVER works the other way for anyone else.  I think the reality is that you’re more concerned about your short coming as a parent or grandparent- your grand kids or kids will be exposed to many many different things and people and situations during their life time…..give them some credit for being able to think on their own and still maintain who they are.  Your fear is unfounded.  YOUR rights END where SOMEONE else’s rights BEGIN that includes gay people.  So try again.

      • Anonymous

        TL,
        “If you do a decent job at home regarding whatever ‘your’ beliefs are then when your kids or grand kids get out into the real world and join the rest of us- they will hold onto those beliefs …. or perhaps they will form a better more rounded and less fearful view of the world they have to share with everyone else who is different then they are somehow.  ”
        But once they hold on to those beliefs and air them out in free speech, there will be some that will vilify them as bigoted, and hateful.

        • Anonymous

          People are not willing to tolerate intolerance of others nor should they.  If certain people were saying that all black people should not have the same rights as others (see Jim Crow Laws, Civil Rights Act of 1964, the anti miscegenation Laws of 1967, etc, etc) they need to be prepared to take personal responsibility for their beliefs and freedom of speech and expect natural consequences of said beliefs and speech….after all that is exactly what gay people and supporters of gay people have experienced isn’t it?  If you are gay or support gay people you are vilified as not believing in god, or are sick or are un-American or are somehow less than everyone else- it’s no different for gay people and supporters of gay people.  

          Here’s my point.  Even though I am not gay- I am willing to put my money where my mouth is- I will voice my opinion and beliefs that gay people deserve nothing less than what everyone else already has equality under the law…period….and have I personally taken a lot of crap from non-supporters and anti-gay people for holding that view?  Yes I have.  Have I been called vile names and physically threatened yes I have…..my beliefs do not and will not change because of those experiences or because of any future experiences from such people….I will continue to believe what I believe and I will take the personal responsibility and deal with the natural consequences of my beliefs and speech….and so should everyone else regardless of what they believe or say.  Welcome to personal responsibility and natural consequences as an adult.

          • Anonymous

            That’s all good and dandy and you’re entitled to your opinion, however do not try and stifle someone else’s opinion. As long as they are not physically, or verbally abusing you, then all should be good. Just b/c I am intolerant of an action, does not mean my voice shouldn’t be heard b/c they don’t agree.

          • Anonymous

            Did you even read what I wrote?  Someone who does not share your intolerance is NOT stifling anything of yours or anyone else’s….they are entitled to have their voice equally heard just as you are.  So your voice can be heard all you want to have it heard…but then you be ready for the consequences that come from being intolerant and heard.  
            And what ‘action’ is it you are intolerant of?  You are not intolerant of an ‘action’ you are intolerant of real live PEOPLE who happen to be different than you and that’s where this country runs into problems.  Someone who isn’t a carbon copy of you and your beliefs are no less American or deserving of equal protection under the laws of this country.  

            What?  Gay people are good enough to serve and die in combat, can pay taxes, have to follow all the other rules that EVERYONE else have to follow but they’re just not quite good enough to get married ?  That’s just a real load of BS and nothing more.

            How does someone who is straight getting married affect you ?  It doesn’t.   So how exactly will someone of the same sex getting married affect you?  Again it doesn’t and won’t.  No one who supports SSM is mandating that you or anyone else marry someone of the same sex…..it is the opponents of SSM who are attempting to mandate that same sex couples NOT be allowed to marry the person they love.  See the difference?  Same sex couples getting married affects no one other than that same sex couple (just like straight people)….while opponents of SSM supporters have a direct negative affect on same sex couples.  Don’t believe in SSM marriage because it’s in the bible?  So’s divorce and no one is b*tching, whining, p*ssing and moaning about everyone who gets divorced in this country which is half of everyone who get’s married….again funny how that works one way yet not the other way….Interesting.

            Respect other people’s Existence or Expect other people’s Resistance…..it’s really NOT rocket science.

          • Anonymous

            You see this is the problem. I should tolerate homosexuality and SSM, and b/c I should tolerate it, I should teach my children to tolerate it. But yet jd said I could teach my children any way that I beleive. However, I can teach my children to not like something, but yet be respectful. Not all intolerance is hate, bigotry. And yes, I can teach my children that acting on homosexuality is a sin, but you don’t hate the sinner, but the action, which is still still respecting the existence. YOu’re right it’s really NOT rocket science.

          • Anonymous

            People can raise their children in any way they wish.

            I have a good friend who is a far right Christian conservative who didn’t support SSM in 2009 and wasn’t afraid to tell anyone that would listen why they didn’t support it. What my friend didn’t know was their youngest child was gay. He was out at school and to his friends but not his family.

            He was raised a “good far right Christian conservative” and he was gay. Wasn’t anything the parents could have done about it. He is what he is and he is now out to his family.

            See we can teach and educate our children in any way and manner we want but they don’t always “turn out” how we want them to.

    • Anonymous

      You are wrong. There is no Constitutional right to not being offended. Believe what you will but do understand two people kissing will only offend your senses. It does not prevent you from exercising any Constitutional rights as the only rights you have in such a matter is that of expression.

      -J

    • Anonymous

      You have the right to raise your children anyway you wish.

      So answer these questions, on Monday November 5th you and your kids are in downtown Bangor and two women (or two men) are kissing in West Market Square, what do your children the day before the vote?

      Take that same example and move it to today, November 8th. Now what do you tell your children and how is it different from two days ago?

      Public displays of affection are not illegal in Maine. What you tell them and how you educate them has not changed.

      Just for the record I will repeat we are a CONSTITUTIONAL Republic. Our laws are derived from the Constitution and that document governs our nation.

    • Much that your chidren, and mine, see go against what they are taught. That is why we teach them. my children learn and are guided by their parents. Not by society. This is America. Founded by Masons who felt that Christianity would be bad for this country. In places where it has been legal for a long time there is less crime, poverty and divorce. Maybe because people dont hate. 
      Leviticus has many rules. Most of which you do not follow.

  • Anonymous

    FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well, at least this is over and we can more on to other things. I voted against this measure, but, this country is supposed to be governement by the people… and the people have spoken. So, I will aide by the law. Congratulations to the victors. There much to be said about a humble loser, but more to be said about a humble winner. 

    • Anonymous

      This is the first comment that I can appreciate from a non supporter of gay marriage. Good for you to make a statement and congratulating the victors on this vote.

    • You are a good person and I agree. Lets all work on making this a greater place for all. 

    • Anonymous

      Thank you— I look forward to marrying the love of my life, and I wish you a long and happy lifetime so you can live to see that gay marriage does not threaten our society, treating each other equally under our laws strengthens America.

  • Anonymous

    In the end, Maine voters did the right thing and declared that discrimination is not an American value.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations MUM,ChuckGG,Regular Joe and so many others who gave time and/or money and did the right thing in the booth! I’m so happy for all of my sisters and brothers and for Maine as a beacon for the nation!JOY JOY JOY!

    • ChuckGG

      Thanks!  I could not be happier.  Finally, we are seeing some progress.  I wrote a personal letter to Brian Brown of NOM (very respectful) suggesting the handwriting is on the wall.  He also issued an email to his mailing list that was quite the “spin.”  In it, he mentioned that Americans still support only traditional marriage.  Well, probably true, but not MOST Americans, according to the polls.  As some political pundit stated, “I would not want his job to spin this.”  True enough.

      Thanks, again. 

  • Tedlick Badkey

    Only if the file jointly.

    It’s not a requirement.

    • truth_hurts_1979

      i am not talking about just taxs hunny. i mean social security, foodstamps, TANF from Dhhs, ECT….

      • Anonymous

        So you admit that lack of civil marriage hurt Maine families— what is your justification for treating us unequally under our laws?

  • Anonymous

    YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

  • Anonymous

    Well those gay people have been picking up YOUR slack and pay extra in taxes for decades. Now they rightfully have equality under the law. Deal with it. 

    • You don’t get it do you! You still don’t get the tax credit for being married you still don’t get the Social Security death benefits or military widow benefits. So go have yourself a gay and joyful marriage! It is funny with the millions of dollars spent for a lousy piece of paper that realistically doesn’t get you any better benefits than what you truly already had access to! I can think of plenty of better ways that money could have been spent.

      • Anonymous

        Now it’s just a “lousy piece of paper”? What happened to the sanctity of marriage?

        And actually, it’s going to be much more next year. The Supreme Court is going to rule DOMA is unconstitutional — the writing is on the wall. 

  • Anonymous

    BOOM !!!!!  MAINE COULD AND DID DO BETTER !!!  Way to go Maine !!!!

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations Maine!

    -J (from Maryland)

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Congrats Maryland (and it’s looking like Washington too)!

    • Anonymous

      Atheism and the Nones have gone up by five points since 2005.We need to destroy Big Religion in all its vicious and damaging forms.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think it necessary to destroy anything. What would be desirable is people of faith realizing that religion is private and personal.

        -J

  • Anonymous

    God will not be mocked.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Sure he will.

      • Not nice. PLease do not stoop. We have won let us be humble and kind. 

        • Anonymous

          You’re kidding right? You have screamed like a little girl the whole election process. Now you plan on being nice?  haha

          • Anonymous

            Speaking of screaming like a girl…..Pfffffft  try again Nancy.

    • He wasnt. He spoke loud and clear. If you had won it would have been Gods will. You lost so it isnt? Do you have no faith in your God? 

      • Anonymous

        God allows people to speak loud and clear with their free will.  After we die, though, God’s will will always be done.

        • Yes it will. See you there. 

    • Anonymous

      I’ll mock god anytime anywhere…..

    • Ben Hutchins

      Irrelevant and untrue.  You should’ve thrown down something insulting so that you could hit the full trifecta.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, when He commanded you to Honor the Sabbath and keep it holy, He meant it. He knows all the non-holy things you do on Sundays and you will have to answer to Him for it.

    • Anonymous

      If you say Jesus backwards, it sounds like sausage.

  • Anonymous

    Social security is a federal program. SSM is a state law. One has nothing to do with the other.

    • Anonymous

      On the contrary until SSM is approved federally, the federal govt, does not have to provide Social Security death benefits even to a married SSM couple.  This is the next drive on the agenda.

      • Anonymous

        Ah the “gay agenda” argument. A few things have to change before the Feds recognize SSM. Those things include repeal of DOMA and settling several cases moving through the federal court system. Until that happens the Feds can continue to refuse any program/benefit to a SSM couple.

        • Anonymous

          Can you tell me with full clarity that, repeal of DOMA is NOT next.  Many posters have already stated that they wanted DOMA repealed.  It is the next logical step.  Many pro-SSM, didn’t just accept civil unions, b/c it didn’t give them the same benefits as being married, now being married doesn’t give the same legal benefits as a hetero couple b/c of DOMA. 

          jd, I cannot believe that you cannot see this and just dismiss it.

          • Anonymous

            It is a natural extension as under current law when a SSM couple move from a state that recognizes SSM to a state that does not, that SSM couple lose all rights and privileges of a married couple.

            That’s not the case for you and me. If my wife and I move or when when travel our marriage is just as valid as any other marriage. So why should a SSM couple be different?

          • Anonymous

            from jd “Ah the “gay agenda” argument”
            “So why should a SSM couple be different?”

            Answer: it’s not, but don’t make it out like it’s some kind of scare tactic or there’s some hidden agenda.

          • Anonymous

            I didn’t bring up the “gay agenda” you did. So please, post a link to the “gay agenda” that you and others keep bringing up.

          • Anonymous

            actually you did. All I stated was a fact, that SS benefits do not have to be given to widowers of SSM due to DOMA. I stated “agenda”, as this was meant for SSM proponents.
            You jd had to specify “gay agenda”. I don’t know of any “gay agenda”. However I can logically connect actions. If I was a proponent of SSM, I would first go through the states, then attack the federal law. It is the logical sequence, you don’t attack the head first w/o body blows.

          • Anonymous

            Here is your original post to “On the contrary until SSM is approved federally, the federal govt, does
            not have to provide Social Security death benefits even to a married SSM
            couple.  This is the next drive on the agenda.”

            Your correct when you state you didn’t use the word “gay”. But let’s review what you did say.
            ~~~~~
            “On the contrary until SSM is approved federally, the federal govt, does
            not have to provide Social Security death benefits even to a married SSM
            couple.”

            So here you are talking about SSM or gay marriage correct?
            ~~~~~
            “This is the next drive on the agenda.”

            So if we were discussing SSM or gay marriage what other “agenda” were you referring to?
            ~~~~~
            So where can one find this “agenda”?

          • Anonymous

            DOMA’s repeal is assured because it has been found unconstitutional numerous times at state and federal levels.

            I expect DOMA to be consigned to the dustbin of history along with Jim Crow legislation by the time Tedlick and I have our marriage ceremony!

          • Tedlick Badkey

            The repeal of DOMA is already underway. There’s no “next” to it.

        • Anonymous

          They will get some benefits right off when they are married like they will not need a note to go see there partner in the hospital .  They can arange the funeral they can not be bared from the funeral plus other benefits .

          • Anonymous

            Correct

      • Tedlick Badkey

        Coming to SCOTUS this month… it’s gonna be awesome!

  • Guest

    It’s a good day in Maine today.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I am being a sore loser today. I’m mighty upset, and sick to my stomach about it. But I will say one thing…   yes, it may have passed….but for almost 50 % of Maine’s population, not accepted. So don’t expect it. Because we will NEVER accept it, nor pretend to.

    • Anonymous

       I’m pretty sure that the gay population doesn’t need your approval. 

    • Anonymous

      The civil rights movement in this country mean nothing to you? Not all people agreed with it, but it is law and should be respected. Just because you do not believe in homosexuality doesn’t give you the right to suppressing an equal member of our society from marriage – which by the way is a state legal union not a religious law. Please do not spread hate towards the LGBT community. They have just as much right to marry the one they love just like everyone else. I hope you get by your bigotry and see that everyone has the right to vote, to use public restrooms, sit in the front of a bus and now marry their gay partner. I am grateful to not be in your position of close-mindedness…

    • Anonymous

      It’s not your acceptance we sought. It’s equal treatment under our government we were seeking, and thankfully the majority of Mainers agreed that allowing ALL Maine families access to civil marriage was the right thing to do.

      • Even though you won the vote it still doesn’t give you equal rights because it still hasn’t been passed at the federal level. Big deal you can sit with your beloved loved one when he or she becomes ill that could have also been accomplished with a simple piece of paper called power of attorney and it would have saved the millions of dollars spent on this topic. All the money raised could have gone back into the communtiy to help with jobs and maybe build another homeless shelter instead of being worried about a damn peice of paper. S

        • Anonymous

          Yes, it IS a BIG DEAL :)

          And I totally agree that all this money could have gone to homeless shelters and other help for those less fortunate. Blame the Catholic Church and National Organization for Marriage for that though— they are the ones who started the whole lying and deceitful campaign in 2009 to repeal these benefits from us! All we did was restore what was rightfully granted us earlier.

        • All the money raised and used in the campaigns was put back into the community. It was not spent overseas it was spent in Maine. 

          • it was spent on stupid signs and posters and tv commercials! How does that help the community? It doesn’t with the millions spent imagine all the houses that could of been heated or homeless that could have been givin one more hot meal! Who cares about signs and tv commercials they did nothing for the community!

          • Who made the signs, who sold the signs, what was the profit used for? Somewhere this money was spent in Maine. It doesnt just disappear. They had to hire people to do the work. They had to purchase the materials. Commercials pay the people who work for the stations who in turn support their families.

          • Certainly not the homeless people or the elderly who can’t afford the enormous heat bills coming their way! I had a customer come in last week who mind you is living in subsidized housing all excited about the check she got for helping the yes on 1 bill she was happy she had some spending money. I asked her what she would do for money after the campaign was over her response was same as i currently am doing collecting state benefits! She then proceeded to purchase a vehicle in cash in excess of 13,000.00 however she didn’t want the paperwork to be sent to the irs about the 10k or above cash purchase so she paid for it half from her partner’s checking account to avoid the reporting to the irs……… Gotta love good ole Maine.

          • So you judge an entire group of people on the actions of one? Judge not….God

          • Anonymous

            Do you really thing that that money would of been spent on other things  .  No  because it would of NEVER been raise in the first place

        •  Your vast ignorance and small-mindedness are showing.

        • Anonymous

          Speaking from personal experience and as a person who held a Power of Attorney, Durable Medical Power of Attorney and Health Care Proxy for not one but two terminally ill relatives I can assure you that you are placing way to much hope on a piece of paper. In both case all three pieces of paper (duly executed, witnessed and notarized) were ignored by the local Bangor healthcare facility and their medical director. The stated desires of my relatives were ignored on a routine basis.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Don’t need your acceptance, thanks.

      Have a great and wonderful day!!!

    • Anonymous

      The one-two punch of seeing a black Democratic president decisively re-elected and having a clean majority of  Maine voters affirm equal rights for gay people must be staggering for the bigoted belly-achers on this board.  

  • Anonymous

    This is what they wanted all along, when they said they didn’t want this back 10 – 12 years ago.  Unfortunately, I’m not that surprised it passed. Maine is the least Churched State in the Nation. I pray this will be a start of a revival of God’s people and the acceptance of the Holy Bible in it’s entirety, not just the parts of his Word.  Those Clergy who are for Gay Marriage are not God’s Clergy.  “The thief’s purpose is to steal and kill and destroy” John 10:10

    • Anonymous

      You’re incorrect— we never said we did not want marriage equality, we said those earlier votes were not about gay marriage — and they weren’t.

      The first time Maine has ever voted on gay marriage was 2009, 3 years ago.

      November 6, 2012: The date these lies stopped working.

    • What about Vermont, NH, Iowa, Maryland, Washington?

    • Ben Hutchins

      That’s a terrifying thought, the notion that Maine could possibly be “the least Churched State in the Nation.”  That implies that the other states have even more pushy church people (I’m assuming per capita?) than the disheartening profusion we still have hanging around here.

  • Anonymous

    To all of you who responded to my comments in a very negative way…Let us leave this to God, let Him say on which side he’s on…His Word or yours.  I prayed a pray this morning through this forum asking God to reveal himself as true to His Word… by answering my prayer-check my comment below to see that prayer…until three days have passed, don’t comment on this, and this is my last statement!  I’m not God, I did not make up the rules- He did. I believe God always is first served…He said No!  And, let me add that I do not hate any of you.   The hate comes from your own assumptions.  To those who responded with words of encouragement to hold true even to death…I agree!  Let me also add that I am truly for all faiths…their true faiths.  I have studied many faiths and what I found was that most faiths are required to follow the first five books of the Bible…much abuse today comes from these religious wars because on-the-whole man does not know his or her faith.  If all of us studied our religious beliefs from a codified Word of our Religion and not that of secular man’s desires…we would live in peace.  Again, let three days pass before you respond…if the miracle does not happen you can laugh at me in this public way.  BUT WHEN GOD DOES WHAT I PRAYED FOR …TO PROTECT HIS WORD…then repent-GOD LOVES YOU ALL AND WANTS YOU TO BE SAVED.  

    • Anonymous

      When you talk to God… Does what God say ever change your mind?

    • Tedlick Badkey

      No. Your god is not mine… and it is not civil law.

  • Anonymous

    I went to parochial school for 11 years, switching to a public high as a senior because my Dad was dying and I wanted to be closer to home.

    Between my education and upbringing, I came away with the outlook that God’s greatest admonition to mankind was “Love thy neighbor as thyself” or “Love one another as I have loved you.”

    Perhaps He created people whose lifestyles or heritages are the minority in any society, to see if we really could love one another, created by Him, in His image, as He love us. We are all His children. 

    I proudly voted yes on Question 1, because it is my belief that I have an obligation to make this a better world for my children, their children, and their childrens’ children. I can love many men and women regardless of their sexual preferences because I believe they are God’s children too.

    So I guess I could say I voted that way because of my religion not in spite of it.

  • Bob Emrich hates gays because he cheated on his wife, got kicked out of his church and then his wife came out of the closet. He is Satan even though he thinks he is God. Pray for him. 

    • Jersey you are so quick to call someone else out but yet hide behind a computer screen with no real name attached. Get a life!!!

      • Tedlick Badkey

        Um… jersey is right you know.

      • I didn’t say anything that was untrue. I would not lie. The church was in Sangerville, Maine. His ex wife’s name is Sarah. He cheated with a parishioner. Sarah lives in another state. He has told his children a different story but I can tell you this is what happened. God Bless- the truth shall be known. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s a proud day for newly adopted state. We moved here knowing that Maine was a much more inclusive and forward thinking state, one where the rights of the individual is respected and now after living with my partner for 30 years we can make it legal. We can uphold the respect for marriage in a truly tangible way.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t wait for when Maine votes to allow siblings to marry, multiple marriages at the same time, and human-animal marriages. We have to let everyone marry who they want and not impose our morality on others. Can we get this done by 2014?

    • Anonymous

      Let’s make it 2016.  That way, we can vote on that, and vote-in President-Elect Hilary Clinton at the same time!!!

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Incest ist still a crime (though first cousins already wed, is that good ’nuff for you?).

      Polygamy? Sure… change the tax law and go for it.

      Animals can’t consent to civil contracts (as all but the most idiotic citizens know).

      And nobody’s imposing anything on you… you came here because you wanted to, and no one will make yo go to a gay marriage.

    • Anonymous

      You get right on that. Your sister is counting on you to make it happen.  

  • Anonymous

    Our Heavenly Father loves us all and wants us to be loved but……  I’m sure God is crying; I don’t think this is what He had in mind….  

    • Anonymous

      The only one who cares what your god is thinking is you.

      Everyone else is thinking about what their god is thinking.

      If the god you believed in really was as great as so many say he is, he’d be happy they are happy.  Since he made them the way they are.

      And since there is no such person as god, it’s all irrelevant anyway.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Then it obviously doesn’t love us all.

  • EasyWriter

    I have a Lawyer friend (Family Law/Divorce)  who is now salivating like Pavlov’s dog.  I say, congrats to the Gay & Lesbian folks and I wish you all years of happy marritial bliss.

  • Anonymous

    If you want to know who to blame,blame Paul Weyrich,Jerry Falwell,Richard Land and all the others who yapped about family values.Those tax issues you refer to were put in by the religious right.Single childless people are screwed as well but the breeders like the Octomom and the Duggars has wheelbarrows full of taxpayer cash.

  • Anonymous

     The gays don’t want him and neither do the straights.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he’ll get lucky and be on the Zumba list.That should prove things nicely.

  • Anonymous

     One of my dear friends(staunch conservative)voted against SSM in MA in 2004.She has since wished me luck in ME.Her words were”Now that’s I’m older I’m thinking about what I leave behind for my kids and grandkids”

  • Anonymous

     That mess happened in CA thanks to the Mormon out of state dark money.Things are still unsettled.

  • Anonymous

    There’s always some conservative crybaby who’s duped into complaining about their rights.I know of a wedding photographer who won’t work with gay couples.He’s closing his doors 12/31.No tears here.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve worked in the hospitality industry and I can tell you receptions are a huge low profit headache,except for the booze sales,which creates its own problems.I’m happy for the new weddings that will happen though and voted YES on one.Every wedding we had with problems was a heterosexual one.

  • Anonymous

    The lies that were run in The County and the R robocalls were truly disgusting.Remeber the puff piece featuring the out of staters for PMM?Bye now.Let them move to the South and lose another war.

  • MARRIAGE 
    is A word that has meant the “union between a man and a
    woman” for 500 plus years needs no change in it’s definition. 

    If they meant woman to be with woman and men to be with men,
    I think the human race would be extinct by now – Just Sayin’

      While homosexuals think
    this lifestyle is okay – I do not.  You
    say you can’t pick who you fall in love with – did you tell that to your friend
    who fell in love with someone you hated – this is a cop out – this is a choice
    and I am so tired of hearing discrimination. 
     Honestly people – does this
    really sound right. Everything is okay! Do you think this is what is wrong with
    society today – how is it working?   There are no morals, no consequences, it’s
    not my fault, it doesn’t affect me what do I care – we just keep bending over
    (pardon the pun).  I am a firm believer
    in to each his own – but quit trying to spill it over to the rest of us – you
    make the adjustments not us!!!  You
    had the opportunity to get civil marriage if these rights are important to you
    but that wasn’t good enough.    And as
    far as I am concerned, if you do get married – it would not be valid in my eyes
    and a lot of others.  And you non homosexuals that voted this in – dig deep is this really right in your eyes?
     One man and one
    woman!!!

      If there is anyway
    this travesty can be changed I will be right there supporting it!

     Just Sayin’

    • Homosexuality has been around as long as humans have been on the earth — actually, as long as animals have been, since it’s been documented in more than 1500 species — so it’s a normal part of the real world.
      Apparently the Intelligent Designer,  in its wisdom, included a recessive gene for homosexuality that has been maintained through the ages, so that heterosexual people have been producing homosexuals in some proportion to their numbers since they arrived on the earth.
      Deal with it.

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