November 13, 2019
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  • The Romney Ryan Plan for the Sinking Ship Titanic would be to hand out Lifeboats to the first Class Passengers and ” Coupons ” for for a Travel Agency selling Trips to Bermuda to the Third Class Passengers ! 

    • Anonymous

      The class warfare argument has not worked out so well for the Left, but keep beating that dead horse, just so you can have something to say and do.

      • Anonymous

        Class warfare is over–the millionaires won years ago. R&R just want to make enough new laws so no average American will ever be able to have a financially secure retirement, or afford medical care.

        • Anonymous

           Many people are financially secure and have affordable medical care because they actually planned and worked to have a future.  I suppose if you wasted the $130,000 that the taxpayers spent on your K-12 education and  then took Women’s studies or underwater basket weaving then you might have trouble supporting yourself.

          • Anonymous

            You seem eager to blame ordinary Americans for difficulties that can happen to anyone.

            How does anyone become “financially secure” if they work at a minimum wage job all their life? Or if they have a below-average IQ, or are even mentally retarded, and can’t find any decent job? How about people who have a terrible, life-altering accident they never fully recover from? In an instant, all that careful planning and working went out the window. Families that were doing OK, but a child became ill, draining their savings, until they went into medical bankruptcy thanks to the for-profit insurance model? Parents whose careful planning didn’t include enough income to care for a child born with a severe physical or mental disorder?

            Do you REALLY believe that only people who don’t plan and work, and people who major in fields you disapprove of, encounter disasters? Are you POSITIVE that you yourself are immune from disaster, simply because you’re currently doing OK?

          • Anonymous

            Do you really believe that ALL of the people who find themselves asking for a continuous handout are the victims of such unlikely circumstances or is that a tiny, tiny fraction of the people who expect others to support them?  We both know that you know the answer.  No one is advocating that we abandon the truly disabled. Please put your straw man away, no one wants to play your game.

          • Anonymous

            A “tiny, tiny fraction”?

            CNN Health: This year, an estimated 1.5 million Americans will declare bankruptcy. Many people may chalk up that misfortune to overspending or a lavish lifestyle, but a new study suggests that more than 60 percent of people who go bankrupt are actually capsized by medical bills.
            Bankruptcies due to medical bills increased by nearly 50 percent in a six-year period, from 46 percent in 2001 to 62 percent in 2007, and most of those who filed for bankruptcy were middle-class, well-educated homeowners, according to a report that will be published in the August issue of The American Journal of Medicine.

            Disabled World website: in 2009, more than 8.7 million Americans were disabled to the point of being unable to work.

            Bureau of Labor statistics: in 2011, 1.7 million Americans earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum. Together, these 3.8 million workers with wages at or below the Federal minimum made up 5.2 percent of all hourly-paid workers.

            The unemployment rate in the United States has decreased to 7.8 percent in September of 2012 (Trading economics.com), but that means about 12 million Americans are unemployed (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf)

            These people are not a tiny, tiny fraction. They’re just people who are invisible to you, or about whom you are unconcerned.

      • Anonymous

        Speaking of dead horses, that’s all the Rs can come up with.

  • Anonymous

    Our military budget has been super-inflated due to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet Romney has said he will not reduce defense spending now that both of these wars are ending. He would, however, cut lots of domestic programs that benefit ordinary Americans. Where is the logic or morality in that?

    • Anonymous

      Where is the morality to financially bankrupting the United States and wrecking its economy with irresponsible spending, budget-busting policies and trillion dollar deficits?

      • Anonymous

        I sure hope you were saying that back when GW Bush demolished the US economy with 2 unfunded wars while reducing federal revenues by giving tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires.

        • It’s not just the war Liz. It was the outright repeal of the Glass-Stegal Act that allowed the bank’s, both commercial and investment, to combine with the insurance industry and literally make unqualified loan’s to anyone just so they could get some kind of a receivable on their book’s and balance sheet’s to make themselves look good to their stockholder’s. And when these loan’s went bad, guess who was stuck with them on their book’s ? These bank’s should have gone under, if for no other reason than to provide a badly needed abject lesson was to what happens when a bank get’s greedy and stupid and forget’s that it’s ultimately responsible to it’s depositer’s, not it’s Board of Director’s. That lesson is the main reason why so many of the the Bank’s are now crying so loudly about the new Dodd-Frank Act. Now bank’s are required to be transparent, and their Officer’s to be PERSONNALY responsible, for their actions and penalties. BOA, and now Citi, are findng that out right now. The only remaining question is whether or not the rest of the bank’s and financial service’s sector’s are smart enough to see the writing on the wall and comply. And with Dodd-Frank being enacted, and the health care issue so publicly debated, it’s only a matter of time before a health care industry version of Dodd-Frank is enacted.

  • Guest

    Higher costs and a higher mortality rate among the more vulnerable in our society is what Romney and Ryan and the GOP favor.

    It means more everything for ‘them’ and less for the ‘rest’.

    • Anonymous

      Your hatred is palpable. Another example of the left’s tolerance!

      • Anonymous

        I don’t know about hatred, but certainly rage is justified against R&R and their vile plans. Do you understand that many people who are unemployed have to start tapping into Social Security in their 50s or early 60s? The higher R&R manage to raise the retirement age, the less money these folks will have to live on, since Social Security income is permanently reduced by collecting it early.

        And think about people whose jobs involve manual labor. Their bodies often wear out in their 50s, yet R&R plan to make sure they can’t collect Social Security until 67, 68, maybe 70. How are they supposed to live?

        The Medicare voucher plan is also abominable, and will result in many elderly people being unable to afford even basic healthcare as they age. It’s a real double-whammy–having to collect Social Security “early” (say, at 67 instead of 69) reduces old age income, making the voucher system even more destructive, since seniors will have to pay much more out of pocket.

        • At least they have a plan. Where is Obama and the democrat plan? Spend trillions we have to  borrow to give away on program after program until we go broke? Is that a plan? Whatever responsible plan is ever put forward it will hurt. Alot. We cannot sustain this current path of trillion dollar debt year after year. Four more years and four more trillion. That will put our debt in the $20 trillion range. What then? Taxing the so called rich for everything they are worth won’t sustain us for more than a few weeks. What then? I have yet to see the Obama plan or an Obama budget that will get a single vote. Put your plan out there Obama so we can vote with that in mind. Doubt that will happen. Ever.

          • Anonymous

            LOL WHAT PLAN? I keep hearing about these loopholes and deductions that are leaving, but Romney/Ryan refuse to say which ones. They refuse to say what will be cut in order to increase Defense spending immensely. They refuse to answer these questions. 

          • Anonymous

            Romney & Ryan’s plan is to continue to send America’s prosperity into the pockets of the 1%. This is what’s ruined the US economy.

            “Income inequality has soared to the highest levels since the Great Depression, and the recession has done little to reverse the trend, with the top 1 percent of earners taking 93 percent of the income gains in the first full year of the recovery…  a growing body of economic research suggests that it might mean lower levels of economic growth and slower job creation in the years ahead, as well… The I.M.F. has cautioned the United States, too. ‘Some dismiss inequality and focus instead on overall growth — arguing, in effect, that a rising tide lifts all boats,’ a commentary by fund economists said. ‘When a handful of yachts become ocean liners while the rest remain lowly canoes, something is seriously amiss.’”  *

            R&R have many conservatives desperate to make sure no poverty-stricken American gets help of any kind. But the poor did not create the problem. The wealthy did, and they’re determined to keep it going until 99% of us are ALL living in desperate poverty, trying to tip over each other’s canoes (to use the term in the article quoted) while applauding the yacht owners. At least Democrats are in favor of helping the 99%, including people who are poor.

            *http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/17/business/economy/income-inequality-may-take-toll-on-growth.html?hp

          • Anonymous

            Some plan by the Rs.  Non-existent. 

        • Anonymous

          People don’t get Social Security in their 50’s or early 60’s . A person doesn’t become eligible until they are 62. You made that up.
          You need to look at the rules on SS in general. There is a move afoot by the government to get folks to delay receiving benefits once they do become eligible, telling them their benefits will be  higher the longer they wait. maybe so… but they also run the risk of not getting any at all because they die before they collect a dime. Government actuarial tables…. Sounds like you bought a TV commercial. Any financial planner will tell you to start collecting as soon as possible. Continue working if you want….. Just pocket the check. The only entity that benefits by the delay is the Government.

      • Anonymous

        Your lazy non-argument is obvious.

      • Anonymous

        The “H” word?  Really?  Are you really that absolutist, hate, love, nothing in between?  However, maybe just thin-skinned.

      • Guest

        I don’t embrace hate.

    • RJ

      No surprise that Professor Luisa S. Deprez is against “cuts” (again only w/insane logic are reductions in the rate of increase classified as “cuts”.) Increasing college expenses out pace inflation by far every year & the biggest contributor to that is faculty salaries. Very hypocritical.

      • Anonymous

         The hypocrites in the Ivory towers love to rail against the greedy capitalists when they themselves are in fact the greediest capitalist pigs of all. They charge whatever the market will bear INCLUDING the loan and grant money that is supposed to make college more affordable. Instead, thanks to the greedy capitalist pigs in the ivory towers, college aid does nothing but make college LESS affordable.  Like most government programs it makes the problem worse than before they tried to solve it.

  • Anonymous

    They should suggest putting everyone on medicaid and food stamps, shut down all business and just spend what we can borrow, if we still can, and everyone will live happily after. The fed govt also should take each child and give them all new ipods, ipads, laptops and cell phones and that should help educate them. We always hear how granny and the poor kids will be hurt so badly. What a bunch of…as Biden put it…malarkey. At least they are proposing something no self respecting libber will ponder…cutting spending! We want to be just like Greece! The new world norm.

    • Anonymous

      A Universal Healthcare system (Medicare or Medicaid for all) would improve the national health. Tens of millions of Americans who don’t have health insurance would have it–all those people Romney & Ryan are hoping to throw under the bus.

      Do you have  health insurance? Congratuations. Is it affordable? Wow! That’s great. Is it through your job? Uh-oh, what will happen if and when you get laid off? A rich uncle, you say…? Or… I see–your plan is NEVER to become ill or have an accident (good luck with that). How will your medical expenses be paid after you retire? Gosh, really? A millionaire among us!

      OK, you yourself have no need for a national health insurance program. But could you please take a moment to think about the non-millionaire Americans? They might even, realistically, include you. Which means you are one of the people R&R are hoping to throw under the bus.

    • Anonymous

      OK, we get it, you hate social programs and you’d rather see poor people starve and freeze to death than see any of our tax dollars go toward helping them. 

  • RJ

    Hard to believe that people still subscribe to insane polices while expecting different results.  Einsteins you ain’t.  Just explain where the $$$ are supposed to come from, to keep funding a growing entitlement class & change my mind.   Next tell me how much you’re contributing.  If not in $$$, how about an idea? 

    • Anonymous

      And yet you don’t care that the across the board 20% tax cuts won’t be paid for. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m a Mainer stuck in southwestern Ohio for a few more years.  I’ve already voted…for Obama/Biden.  Hope that helps some of you fine folks out back up there at home.

    • Anonymous

      Doing a good job in Ohio, a swing state.  Keep up the good work.

  • have decided on a way to reduce the american debt… 1. WE NEED TO CUT POLITICIANS PAY IN HALF. 2. MAKE POLITICIANS PAY FOR THEIR OWN HEALTH INSURANCE (THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE TO) 3. INVEST IN YOUR OWN RETIREMENT (401K OR SOCIAL SECURITY) AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING YOU FULL PAY EVEN AFTER YOU RETIRE. 4. GOVERNMENT CAN WORK 5DAYS A WEEK MOST AMERICANS DO 5. THE AVERAGE AMERICAN GETS ONLY A FEW WEEKS OF VACATION A YEAR WHY SHOULD POLITICIANS GET 6MONTHS. 6. LET AMERICAN PEOPLE DECIDE ON YOUR PAY RAISE THE REST OF US GET A REVIEW FOR PAY YOU SHOULD TOO. 6. TERM LIMITS ON ALL YOU HAD BETTER SAVE YOUR MONEY OR FIND OTHER EMPLOYMENT CAUSE WHEN MY TIME IS UP MY JOB DOESN’T KEEP PAYING ME. 7. MANDATORY VOLUNTEER HOURS, YOU ARE IN PUBLIC SERVICE YET YOU DO LITTLE OF IT TRY IT OUT FOR A CHANGE…

  • Anonymous

    Ms. Deprez – Stick to women and gender studies. You apparently flunked politics and economics. 

    • Anonymous

      And your grades are what?

      • Anonymous

        I’ll release mine when Obama releases his.

        • Anonymous

          Touche.  I’ll settle for your grades in economics and politics.  As for me,  I never took econ (the dismal science) but I did get a good grade in PolySci.

    • Anonymous

      “You see, even [EJP is] attacking these letter writers haven’t given any evidence that what they wrote is wrong. All [EJP has] done is denigrate and disparage them.” 

      Are you going to be consistent here or are you going to keep criticizing others for the exact same behavior you engage in?

  • We need jobs.The main thing in this election is that Romney is in a good position to say alot of junk about Obama’s Record.But, How many People had try to research about his record while he was Governor of Massachusetts.1.He didn’t Balance the Budget which he claimed last night. (ii) His state was rated 47th out of 50th state in America in economic growth while he was a Governor.Go on the  Wikipedia to find out the real truth.His record is not as  good, meaning  if it hard for him to balance his budget on surplus in managing a state,what is the probability of him managing an entire country.Being a good businessman has nothing to with the government. The Executive arms of Government is not in profit and loss business but, the best interest of his citizens.

    • Babar, the one little item that wasn’t mentioned by anyone until this morning is the FACT that Romney actually cost the State of Massachussetts just under 50,000 jobs while he was Governor. Now if Mitt’s such a well known job creator then can someone please tell me why he couldn’t even save his own State ?

      • Anonymous

        Lets see a link to that. 
        Are you just counting jobs lost and not the ones gained.  Unemployment was 5.8% when he took office and 4.5% when he left.  That’s a 22% reduction in unemployment.  And the President’s record is what? 

  • Anonymous

    I am not sure how the writer has any idea what the Romney Budget would do. The last I heard was that they had not put out a proposed budget at all. It seems to me this writer is making up alot of things based on her prejudicial assumptions. Meanwhile President Obama always presents a budget that is immediately  rejected by the Senate by voice vote. So he really doesn’t have one either.

    • Anonymous

      Psssssssst….read the very first sentence of the piece. 

      • Anonymous

         Except no plan exists at least for media consumption.

        • Anonymous

          “Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget plan –- and a similar one proposed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney –- would have wide-reaching, negative effects on health care and economic opportunity.”

          There is a Ryan budget and Romney’s proposals (the few details we can get out of him) sound nearly identical. It’s not a huge logical leap to understand they’re probably going to be very similar. 

          • Anonymous

             Yes. Youcan write whatever you like. It doesn’t make it true. All the writer has is previous plans based on other budgets (Ryan) and a couple of statements from Romney. That doesn’t sound like a plan to me. She made it all up.

          • Anonymous

            LOL! She didn’t make it up, she says she’s referring the Ryan budget and Romney’s proposals. Just because you ignore it, doesn’t make your nonsense true.

            Either way, Romney/Ryan says the math adds up perfectly. If they don’t have a plan, how do they know it adds up? 

            I’d love for one day to read something you write and have your criticisms be principled and consistent. I won’t hold my breath for that though.

          • Anonymous

             Except that those “proposals” do not exist in public. Nothing has been released.

          • Anonymous

            So then you think Romney and Ryan were both lying when they said the math adds up perfectly?

  • Anonymous

    I wonder why anyone but millionaires would think they personally would benefit from a Romney/Ryan presidency.

    • Anonymous

       I wonder how ANYONE could think the country would benefit under continuation of an Obama presidency.  I suppose if you were one of his green energy cronies you could get millions a declare bankruptcy and walk off with your pockets full of tax money.  Are you a green energy scam artist?

      • Anonymous

        I am not a green energy scam artist. If you are for Romney, then please tell me how you think you will personally will benefit from a Romney presidency.

        • Anonymous

          Maybe my children and grandchildren will not be taxed to pay off government debt for the rest of their lives.  Under Obama it is a certainty that they will be.  It’s not just about you.

          • Anonymous

            You believe Romney will reduce government debt? Do you mean the deficit?

          • Anonymous

             The deficit results in debt that will have to be payed off by our children and grand children, and thanks to Obama our great grand children and great, great grand children too.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, but please tell me how Romney will reduce the deficit and/or the debt.

      • Anonymous

        Ironic you mention making millions off bankruptcy. Seems to have been Romney’s MO at Bain Capital. Take over, drive in the ground, line his pockets. Ironic indeed.

        • Anonymous

           I notice that you did not dispute my point that Obama has lined the pockets of his cronies with tax money while they provide absolutely no benefit to the country.  Thanks for playing.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like what Landslide LePage is trying to do here now.

  • Anonymous

    I am far from a millionare and I will say one thing, I am NOT better off now than I was when Obama took office, neither is anyone else that I talk to. Dem. or Rep. I know of no one that has done better under Obama, so why should I give the man another chance?
     Better than half of the demonizing of BOTH candidates is nothing but unfounded internet innuendo. Neither one of these candidates are the devil incarnate, neither are the people that support them. This country as a whole has gotten so mean-spirited and venomous with it’s politics, so polarized that both sides cannot sit down and COMPROMISE. The blame lands on both sides of the isle.
    Until we get past acting like this, we will continue our downward spiral as a nation.

  • tag

    Obama-Biden failure to even have a budget has hurt Mainers, economy.

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