September 21, 2019
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Comments for: LePage agrees to slow down east-west highway process

  • Anonymous

    Soooooooooooo…………….. what happens to the $300,000?????????

  • What a Bunch of Phonies!

    They are just trying to Take the Heat off themselves before Elections!

    To late, we are onto their scheme of privatizing every little thing that they can get their greedy little hands on!

    • Anonymous

      Maybe we should close I95 while we are at stopping all business in Maine. Its proof that major highway projects are all republican scams.

      • Anonymous

        tell me thoughtpoliceman, how is Maine going to benifit from this road? tell me what your head has been feed about this road that is good, give me 3 things how mainers will benifit. come on, tell me

        • Anonymous

          Has Maine done better as a state because of I95? Come on YOU tell me?

          • Anonymous

            I 95 is a public highway and the State has done better with that public highway.

            Now you answer how does a highway that prohibits public access benifit Maine.  

          • Anonymous

            Prohibits public access? don’t be ridiculus.

          • Guest

            ….

      • I95 is a PUBLIC Highway!

        Or didn’t you notice!

    • Anonymous

      If you’d like to make sure this and other programs proceed with Maine people in mind instead of just wealthy businessmen, vote for Rep. Clark not Mr. Thomas.

      Some things that seem fishy about this East-West Highway thing:

      1) If Mr. Vigue has the private financial backing and the people who own the land are willing to sell, why doesn’t he go ahead? Why does he need Mr. LePage, Mr. Thomas and the $300,000.00 of our money they’ve decided to give him?

      2) If this is going to be a private – for profit road, why are we spending any tax money on it at all?

      3) Who are the investors and do they have Maine’s best interest in mind? Are they Mainers? Are they Americans? Who will own it in ten years?

      4) If they don’t need eminent domain powers, why is the government involved at all?

      5) Does it matter what Mr. LePage, with his casual relationship with the truth, says if it will be after he’s out of office when eminent domain may be used?

      6) Shouldn’t we be concerned if we need to amend the state constitution to help a private company build a road?

      7)Why does Mr. Thomas want to study it if he’s already decided it’s a dandy idea? What can we expect a study to find if the guys behind it have already made up their minds?

      8) Who is getting our $300,000.00 to come up with the findings that Mr. Thomas wants?

      9) We need to slow down the study because we might get information too fast? How does this make sense —outside of Mr. LePage’s and Mr. Thomas’ heads I mean?

      10) If I own property in the road’s possible path, how do I sell it, at what price, to what fool, when we don’t know where the road may go?

      11) How dumb do these politicians think we are?

      • Anonymous

        Mr. Clark what a flip flopper he was totally behind this road was a co-sponsor of the legislation. Though now he is running for Doug Thomas’ seat he is doing what Democrats always do play both sides so they can get elected.  This guy is a total hypocrite, it was alright for him to demand Maine Taxpayer’s to keep subsidizing the Town of Millinocket.   Instead of doing what they should have been doing and that is keeping fiscal restraints and finding ways to create their own economic path.  He is just another socialist liberal hack who will continue to look out for his own interest and play partisan politics to benefit his political career.

      • Anonymous

        to answer #3, as to investers. Peters transportation bills says he doesn’t have to disclose the investor until after the highway is approved

    • Anonymous

      I think you find this road will be alot different proposal than what is currently on the table.  I think this road could end up being an expansion of  I-395 that uses parts of Rt.  9,  Rt. 2 and Rt. 201, or a widening of one of those 3 roads.  Though Dlbrt we know it’s all LePage’s and Republicans fault that they want to look at this proposal for a new modern highway.
      Instead of knowing the facts that this highway has been studied since the 1940’s.  This road will eventually be built but the final study, route and product will not be what is currently on the table.

      • Anonymous

        I guess you don’t understand it is not being built as a public highway. you can’t take your sunday drive on it…. It’s a Private canadian road for trucks

        • Anonymous

          Says who Liberals, Enviros, Rino’s ??.  That is why it’s being studied does anyone honestly believe it’s going to be a truck route and that this is the final route. That is why it’s being studied.  This road will be just like the Maine Turnpike is because you will find alot of folks complaining if it isn’t.  That is why some folks are complaining now because of the current route and the misinformation that is going on now.  We should just wait to see what the study is first.

          • jenny_whyme

            Misinformation? Did you read the last line of the article?  Or are you one of those ” I read the headline so I know what’s in the article” kind of people?

            “Vigue proposes to develop the highway as a private venture. ”

            It might be like the Turnpike in that it will be a toll road…. but whatever tolls are collected won’t be going to the State if Vigue proposes this as a “private venture.”If this road is built as a “private venture” that last thing that should be spent on it are tax money.  

            If this road is built as a “private venture,” the private venture people should be paying for the study… not the tax payers.

          • Anonymous

            No its folks like yourself who are not the ones who are paying attention.  The Left, Environmentalists, Those on Welfare and RINO’s are the ones spreadling lies , misinformation and other inaccurate statements.  Why is it the same crowd always fights any idea that creates good paying jobs here in Maine and wants to keep the status quo.  Could it be in puts a dent in them having control that all of these folks might lose their taxpayer handouts and subsidies they are currently still getting.  That if jobs comes in and that folks have to go to work and actually become prosperous that those in Augusta looking for this base to buy votes from may actually turn against them.  This road is going in eventually but the final study is likely going to be different.  As I have stated this road will end up being similar to what the Maine Turnpike is for Southern Maine an economic boost for that area.  I also said in my comment that this final study will likely be having the location for the highway more farther south .  Why because the State came out recently saying areas in Central Maine  Waterville-Augusta-Fairfield-Skowhegan-Madison-Farmington and Rumford areas are all prime for major economic growth.   Also most of these areas in Somerset/Kennebec Counties just recently their town selectmen and city councils all voted to have Summit Utilities build a natural gas pipeline to help economic development.  Does any believe that this road won’t come near this gas pipeline to accelerate growth in these regions of Maine.  As I stated we need to stop spreading misinformation , fear and scare tactics wait tilll what this study is.  This road is going in because MDOT AND LePage have the constitutional powers under Maine Law to do so under economic benefit clauses in the Maine Constitution.

    • Anonymous

      I’m fairly certain that lepage knows he’s a one-term governor.

      • It’s not just being a 1 term Governor that’s got him making these statement’s. Paulie has now got to be seriously worried that whatever other, more private, arrangement’s that were ‘privately reached’ between Cianbro, Irving and Maine’s DOT are now gonna come out. The mere fact that Cianbro’s own people have made public statement’s, and are now being studied, that their Corporate and Gov’t Relations people actually wrote the Highway Act, and then had it submitted as actual legislation by a Maine Legislator, has more than a few people wondering just what else has been smuggled by them in the Statehouse. The fact that this Act was literally pushed thru, in record time no less, is by itself a more than huge red flag of warning that this Act needs to be re-visited and actually taken apart to see what’s inside. Maine is not a Forrest Gump box of chocolate’s. The voter’s need, and deserve, to know what’s inside before any more money changes hands and Maine is changed forever by it.

        And the blame for this cut’s both way’s so it doesn’t matter if your a GOP, TP’r or a Democrat. We should all get a dose of castor oil and sulfer on this one for letting this get so far outta hand. It also calls for the complete reorganization of the State Planning Office and OPEGA by requiring them to be involved as a ‘Sign-off’ Required Authority in order for them to insure that whatever legislation that’s introduced, or passed, is free of outside influence. Had this happened before this whole mess started, one can well imagine just how far this project might have gotten, benefited Maine and actually worked and served as a model of the future. Now, because of greed, stupidity and arrogance, this entire project is shot, just so someone could cry ‘My legacy is ruined ! ‘. Too bad, get over it and try again, but this time do it the right way and don’t even think about getting cute. Whoever tried it this way has now gotten a very public fannysmacking and is probably gonna lose the $ 300,000.– K in study money. That’s cheap compared to what’s ahead.

        This gets tried again, and now with the media and the public both watching, and VERY UGLY things begin to happen, like public hearings into the source of new legisation, it’s source documenttion and who actually wrote the ‘new ‘ Act, the background of the Parties involved, the money trail that this Act both came from and is going to generate, the Sovereignty issue and who has the Authority over the Highway and who, and how, Mainer’s are gonna benefit from another road running thru the middle of the State. And with the public mood being what it is now, and the Court’s reading that ‘crankiness’, you can bet dollars to donut’s that at any stage of this next round of Highway that any type of political shennanigan’s are gonna be seen as noting less than another attempt to corrupt the process. That means a Grand Jury since even the AG can read the paper’s. It also means that this whole process is probably gonna start getting a quiet look-see from the Fed’s since it involves Federal issues, like gov’t corruption, vote buying and outside manipulation of the legislative process, as well as the Coburn and Calais border crossing point’s issue’s. No, whoever tried this this time got off easy with a $ 300 K warning shot. Next time it’s gonna be Grand Jury’s, the Press, the Court’s and off to a wonderful vacation at Downeast or to Otisville if they really manage to ‘upset’ the Fed’s. And we all wonder why Paulie is backing away ? This one isin’t even close !

  • Anonymous

    Dickey Lincoln Dam project deuce

    • Anonymous

      LOL I remember the political football, yup ya right.

  • Anonymous

    Save that 2nd paragraph, you can use it on every comment Dlbrt makes.

    • Anonymous

      Yes. There are too many Dlbrts out here.  These forums could be good places to discuss issues, but instead, they are usually intellectual deserts.

  • Anonymous

    I just realized why I enjoy writing reader comments so much. It’s because I enjoy running my mouth as much as Governor LePage does. This issue has become like a merry-go-round at a Disneyland.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Vigue needs to look at a map. You can’t build the highway as it stands without ruining the 7.8 million dollar Machias river public lands. You won’t even be able to cross it. Great for the Canadians, bad for Maine!

    • Anonymous

      Who cares about conserving lands.  It’s about moving Maine’s Economy and getting the rest of Maine into line with the rest of the country and world.  We only have Southern Maine doing well while the rest of the 85% of Maine stuck in extreme poverty and folks collecting Welfare.  I think it is time to tax these folks most of these environmental groups are filing for tax exempt status. They all have been making out like bandits through taxpayers subsidies the last 40 years thanks to those in the Democrat Legislature at that time. 
      The Liberals talk about everyone paying their fair share its time to get all of the back taxes these folks acutally owe and taxing them currently for all the lost revenue they owe for taking land off the tax rolls.

      • Anonymous

        Ok How is this road going to benifit the people of Maine. please explain.

        • Anonymous

          The radical lefties and enviros including folks on here have spread alot of lies , fear  and misinformation on this road .  We all know they don’t want jobs here in the State of Maine because they want to keep the Welfare State going with the Enviromentalists also continuing to run wild with no accountability.  Folks on here  said this road would only have 2 exits , which is incorrect it has 7.   They claim its going to help Canadian Tourists.  Now it’s a truck route for Canadians. They said it would have no fueling stations, rest areas/bathrooms amongst other things.  They claim it will be the final route.  Can we wait till the study is done because I think we all know its going to see major changes.  I think its going to be a Central Maine route into New Hampshire similar to what Angus King, Vigue and several other folks talked about in the 1990’s and a few years ago.  I think instead it will be an expansion of  I-395 which is the route talked about a few years ago.  But to keep talking about something that isn’t even finally studied and will see major changes in the end is foolish.  This road will be built because Maine DOT and LePage have the final say.  They can use their constitutional powers by law and put it through and their is nothing we can do about it.  It’s the law they have the right to do so. 

          • Anonymous

            I asked how this would benifit Maine people and you cound not answer, because it won’t be for public use. and you know it. yealling about welfare has nothing to do about the road

      • Anonymous

         I agree that people on welfare that can work should go to work. I don’t agree however that every place in Maine should look like downtown Portland. If you would like to live in a place with the hustle and bustle you are welcome to it. I am a republican not a liberal. I know much of Maine would have a much better quality of life without a major highway running through it. That’s why I care about land that has already been conserved. I’m not all about saving the trees, whales, etc., but I am also not about selling our soul for a couple Canadian bucks.

        • Anonymous

          Right that is why folks are rushing to support Quimby’s park.   That must be why voters located in towns in Northern Maine have given it a big thumbs down through voter referendum’s and town meetings to it.  I think we have protected enough land and taking it off the tax rolls which increase all Mainer’s taxes in the long run.  It’s time to upgrade Maine’s awful infrastructure.  Mainers shouldn’t have to put through  driving on absymal roads and bridges.  We should also create more new modern highways that have the 100,000 lb. weight limit to get them off the local back roads which saves on wear and tear.  I think Majority of Mainers have a different vision than what currently those who want to continue the same failed policies we have the past 40 years.  Because they have seen the damage it has caused, the huge job losses and folks leaving in large amounts for better opportunities.  Because folks have had enough of the Welfare and Nanny State we have had for decades it doesn’t work.  It’s time Eco-Freaks to backseat and move Maine foward back to the state most of us grew up in.

        • Anonymous

          I disagree with some of that. I live in a rural area that has access to I95 and 295…both are approximately 10-15 minutes from my house and I do not believe that either of these highways would impact the quality of life here in a negative way. The people that live here intend on keeping the rural character of the town and not turning it into another Portland.
          The fact that both highways are so close is the reason I was drawn to this area…if ever I needed to find a different job, I knew I would have options.
           I have family that live in another rural area of Maine and their only means of commuting is route one…I tried living there for a few years but the lack of highway access severely limits one’s opportunities.  
          I believe the major reason Maine is such a poor state is because of the fact that most rural areas are cut off from many good job markets because there is no highway access to reach them. Do not misunderstand me, I am all for the rural life and do not wish that Maine be turned into a sea of pavement, malls, and big box stores…but if we created more highways through these areas not for development but for the purpose of access to areas with jobs, the quality of life would improve. I am not a republican but I would think that a republican could see that this is why so many people on this state depend on social services. If anyone thinks that just changing the rules and throwing people off is going to fix the problem, they are ignorant. There are reasons for the problem, and if they are not fixed, this state will never be better.  

          • A sound, reasoned and reality based position. This is the type thinking that needs to be in the DOT’s Planning Office, not some academic that doesn’t understand a State like Maine. Smrty, next time they put out the call for a Candidate for a State office, let me know. I’ll back you !

      • Guest

        ……

      • “It’s about moving Maine’s Economy and getting the rest of Maine into line with the rest of the country and world”
           Every time they spout that garbage about getting in line with the rest of the  World we go further back to the Third World Stone Age !

    • Anonymous

      He would be exempt from Maine enviromental laws. It’s in his transportation bill

  • MooseheadLake

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    I think this is a Good Move.

    The East-West Highway is only for Canadian Companies and maybe some Multi-National Companies. It’s not going to help the people of Maine.

    I don’t know LePage’s motivations – but, on the surface, this is the right thing to do.

    Get away from the pontifications of those standing to make lots of money and analyze this objectively and coldly – and it’s just good for a handful of Companies, most non-U.S.

    .

  • Anonymous

    This little special interest was getting a little hot for LeRage,

  • Anonymous

    The know it all wonder speacks again. join a fair and leave town! side show bud.

  • Admin Person

    This project will totally ruin the ‘Stud-mill’ road as we know it.  

  • Anonymous

    We already have a East-West corridor it’s called a Rail Road system. Utilize it.

  • Anonymous

     Sorry but I flagged a whole exchange on this topic with the back and forth name
    calling, personal attacks, and incivility that the BDN claims is against
    the rules. We don’t need this. We need Mainers to speak their piece,
    and make their point so the public is enlightened, not pushed down in
    ignorance as has been going on for generations, apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Doug Thomas has noone to fear. Democrats are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves.  They are the ones who couldn’t field enough candidates for the legislature.  They are the ones who already lost 11 races to Republicans including Bill Diamond’s seat thanks to their party  not having enthusiasm for the upcoming election.  If Democrats cared about Doug’s seat the party would be throwing huge dollars at his seat .   They would be sending folks helping out with the campaign they are not. Because they know they have zero chance of winning .
    Because of past history with Doug’s elections where he won by very large margins.  Instead they are focusing on 5 Ultra-Conservative  Republican Districts where they have zero chance in either.  So it’s Maine Democrats who are unorganized again this year.  Republicans actually think now they can pick up alot of seats this election.  When they thought they only could have minimum amount of gains in both chambers.

  • Anonymous

    This is not about saving the people from being subjected to taking by eminent domain. This is a very obvious ploy between LePage and his rubber stamp man to try to win a seat for a Republican this fall. If Thomas wins the seat, it will be back to business as usual. And LePage has the audacity to say that he doesn’t play politics. Whittemore comes in and Skowhegan gets their bond money. Thomas suggests a slow-down and, like magic, LePage backs off his rush for an E/W highway. These are very obvious attempts to soften the voters in these regions for the fall elections. The R’s know that their base is shrinking fast and some deviousness is necessary.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t trust anyone on this one… They are not taking their time. they need to do this before anyone is aware of whats happening.

    Slow it down??? if you have to go from point a to point b why would you slow it down. what pay people to hang around.

    The study is going on in Canada.

  • Anonymous

    Are they using the same criteria for this study as they used on the past 3 studies..
    independent study my butt, hire by Peter…

    Sort of like the insurance companies having to hire independent appraisers.. yet if it doesn’t go their way, thats the last job they get.

  • Anonymous

    They want to speed up the process . Canada is involved. http://youtu.be/tzan7GYQSBI

  • Anonymous

    Peter is fishing for allies, and knows about 10% of the people posting here swallowed his rotting bait

  • Anonymous

    The feasibility study does slow it down.

  • Guest

    Sounds like a way to cool things down before the election.

  • Anonymous

    So LePage is going to let this just get pushed on the backburner…just as it has been for years? Once again, Mainers do not know what is good for them…  

  • Passadumkeagah

    In my book, this guy’s a hero. Always ask” “Is this contitutional?”

  • Anonymous

    That’s to bad. It should be kicked up a notch instead.

  • Anonymous

    Oh for crying out loud! All you East/West Highway “Nay Sayers” , GIVE IT A REST! It seems to me your bigger concern here should be Roxanne Quimby with her “millions” grabbing acre after acre of our beautiful state for her own purposes.  Now, you tell me…..what good is she doing for our state? At the very least, this E/W Corridor may help bring a little prosperity to our state in the areas where it  is most needed.

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