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  • Anonymous

    It is great to live in a free country.

    • Anonymous

      The big myth. Take a trip around the world, my friend.

  • Anonymous

    Do they do this on Pearl Harbor Day as well?

  • Anonymous

    Why do you insist on covering this mon-event every year?

  • Anonymous

    How about the tens of thousands of Allied POW’s that were used as slave labor by major Japanese companies.  Kawasaki is the biggest culprit. Yet they have never paid a single red cent to any of our former POW’s.  Its a shameful part of our history that the US government fails to recognize or remember.  PLUS THE JAPS STARTED THE WAR! (for us at least)

    • Anonymous

      How about the 100,000 innocent Japanese-Americans who were put in prison camps per Roosevelt’s order? And the Japanese (not Japs) did not start the war. America’s arrogance and intrusion into the business of far too many countries of the world just as it is doing today is what caused the war with the Japanese.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah what about the 300,000 Chinese that were murdered in 1937. The rape of Nanking comes to mind.  300,000 dead  IN ONE CITY AND YOUR OK WITH THAT?  Thats more than any of the people in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.  I say this because the Japanses refused to surrender. 
        110,000 Japanese killed on Okinawa.  40,000 allied casualties including my uncle Morris Lagasse from Old Town ME. KIA USS BUNKER HILL, on one tiny insignificant island.  Imagine the casulaties of both the Japanese and Americans if they invaded Honshu.  Fact is it saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. Maybe they should have thought of that before they bombed the Harbor.    They started it, we finished it.  To say the Japanese did not start the war is ignorant. Re-read your history books pal, because they sure as heck did.  The war started well before 41 when we entered it.

        • Anonymous

          Oh and the relocation of the Japanese Americans to camps for the war was disgraceful and illegal, but its a marked difference between internment and murder.  Don’t even start to compare what we did to what the Japanese Army did to the Chinese and other subjugated peoples.  Plus the US governent tried to make amends and did compensate the Japanese Americans in the 80’s under Reagans administration. Agin was it wrong, yes.  But it pales in comparison to what the Chinese endured as well as Allied POW’s. Bataan Death March comes to mind.  Ever heard of that Bill?

          • Anonymous

            Yes, I have. When I was a young boy, I had a mentor who taught me how to make model airplanes and he died in the Bataan March. I’ve also heard about the seven million Jews who were exterminated in the Holocaust that our President and country did not see as a problem at the time it was happening.

          • Anonymous

            Because of Isolationists who did not want to get involved in any overseas problems, or like you said earlier the “arrogance and intursion of America into the business of far too many countries.”  Popular Americans like Lindbergh were isolationists.  But let me get this strait.  You say its America’s fault for not getting involved with stopping the Holocaust. Yet in a seperate post you get all upset that America is “Arrogant” and involved in “other countries business”.  Make up your mind sir. One second we cant mind our own business the next we failed to get involved so we are at fault there as well.  Which one do you prefer we pick?  It seems to me that you just want to apologize for America no matter what we do we are wrong.  If you think America sucks so bad why dont you move back to Japan where everyone is so nice.

             

        • Anonymous

          I’m not going to get into a banter with you because I can already tell that you think America does no wrong. Please know that I taught history at Winthrop High School and I have probably read more about the History of Civilization than any man alive today. It might interest you to know that 640,000 American soldiers killed each other in our own civil war. Yes, all over the right to own and sell a black person as though he/she were chattel. PS: As a young boy, I was taught to “hate” the Japanese by my government in their propaganda program. PS1: Have you ever thought about all of the Native Americans that were killed by America soldiers – and what they didn’t kill – they enslaved on reservations? Time you read something beside a history book written by a white American.

          • Anonymous

            and you seem to enjoy the notion that America does no right.  You and our president can “apologize” for America.  Most of us will not, ESPECIALLY when it comes to WWII.

          • Anonymous

            Really Mr. History teacher.  I do not jump to conclusions about people that I don’t know, but the fact remains you cant debate the atrocities committed by the Japanese to what we have done as a country to stop a war we didn’t start.

              What we did to the Native Americans was wrong and disgraceful as well. Same to the slaves. To think it took almost 100 years to have the Civil Rights movement in the 50’s and 60’s come around is also disgraceful.  Oh as for civil war history 3 “slave” states fought for the Union but hey after the Emancipation Proclomation which freed no one and made the war about slavery instead of the preservation of the Union which is what everyone thinks the Civil was originally fought for.  States Rights or something like that.  Its disgusting really to even think about what happened to the Native Americans.  Trail of Tears comes to mind. I believe it was Andrew Jackson who orchestrated that massed forced migration of the Cherokee, but i defer to you mr expert high school history teacher..

              Just one tiny example.  America is not always right, thats fact. To sit here and apologize for something that happened, which in the long run saved MILLIONS of both American and Japanese lives really shows your revionist history additude.  Tell me did you teach all the kids at Winthrop high school that the Vietnam war was fought by baby killers and spit on American soldiers returning home?  That was “cool” then too right, they were all just baby killers anyway.

            Why don’t you try reading a history book written by Americans and not some foreigner who hates us anyway.  Just food for thought.  Since you are the expert high school history teacher I will stop trying to talk to you since you know more than everyone else anyway.  Have a good night.

          • Anonymous

            And as the typical liberal, you want to apologize for the United States to anyone willing to listen. I’m sure there are many others as well educated in the History of Civilization as you are, you just seem a bit full of yourself.

      • Anonymous

        Remember that Great Britain and the Netherlands had more extensive holdings the the US did in Southeast Asia and those holding were attacked simultaneously with Pearl Harbor.  However, Japan did attack whatever holdings we had.  I know of at least one well-marked church-supported hospital ship that was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine.

      • Anonymous

        So it was Our fault they attacked Pearl harbor?Sir you have very distorted view of history.  Without this country you seem to hate did not win WW2 alot of us would either be slaves or turned into lampshades  If being here pisses you off that much I bet North  Korea might have nice shack for you

      • Xerxies

        Mistakes, and travesties did occur, such as what you’ve illustrated happened to Americans of Japanese ancestry during  WWII. To attempt excuses, or to try to explain away our wrongs will just compound the issue, the travesty if you will. We were wrong, it was terrible what our nation did to these people, and I for one will never make any excuses for it.

        However, the “greatest generation” made allot of good choices during that time period as well. The atomic weapons used against the Japanese homeland, as horrific as they are/were,  were among these good decisions.

        To even elude, or suggest that America, whom had at that time aggressively pursued a separatist policy started the war in the Pacific is patiently ignorant and highly offensive. In my opinion, the assertion that we did start said war is an indication of your lack of intellect and moral character.

  • Anonymous

    They obviously don’t have anything important to do today.

  • Anonymous

    A curious way to remember, wonder how they feel about it over seas?

    • Anonymous

      Do the Japanese remember Pearl Harbor as these people remembered the bombs?

      • Anonymous

        Doubtful, but if they did it in this fashion it would certainly raise some eyebrows.

  • Anonymous

    I was in Hiroshima as a military man 11 years after the bombing. It was a sad state of affairs. I was continually asked by the Japanese people why the United States killed so many innocent people. I found the Japanese people to be the nicest people I’ve ever met – and I have been a world traveler. I was also ashamed of the arrogance and hostility of the American GI’s and their demeaning treatment of the Japanese people. It’s pretty sad that patriotically conditioned men in uniform have to kill millions of innocent people in order to rid the world of a single person – a bad ruler. Time we stopped building monuments to war and built a monument to peace.

  • Anonymous

    President Truman was tasked with one of the most important and difficult decisions any leader ever had to make. I will include some information for anyone who wishes to read actual history.

    The Rape of Nanking China by the Japanese in 1937
    The joining of Japan with Hitler and Germany for the purpose of world domination.

    The absolute refusal of Japan’s Emperor to capitulate which meant that the United States and Allied forces would need to invade Japan to end the war with the Japanese.

    While most everyone I have ever spoke with that was alive and old enough to understand during WWII would later regret that such a destructive, world altering bomb should be deployed, they all mentioned that it was a fact that many, many more people would have been killed had the war continued. Think about the fact that Japanese Emperor Hirohito did not end the war after the first atomic bomb dropped…………..but remained defiant until another was deployed.

    • Anonymous

      The intransigence of the Japanese military clique is even more telling.

  • Anonymous

    “Peace and Justice” ?
    Where was the peace and justice when Japan invaded China, killing, raping, and pilliging multitudes of thousands and effectively starting the Second World War? Where was the peace and justice when ships in their docks were sunk without warning? Where was the peace and justice when thousands of POWs were marched to their deaths on their way to nowhere? Where was the peace and justice when Japanese soldiers remained at their posts simply to kill Americans when defeat was iminent. Where was the peace and justice for all those who were left to die in their camps. Where was the peace and justice when thousands of Korean women were enslaved as “Comfort Women” to satisfy carnal demands of marauding soldiers. Where would the peace and justice be if Japan refused to surrender and more than a million American soldiers and Japanese civilians were killed before final victory. We can only thank the courage of President Truman and the presence of a million Soviet troops marching toward Japan for their ultimate surrender before an untold  number of others were killed. The use of the Atomic weapons, horrible as they were  are the direct responsibility of Japan’s actions and the resulting deaths, a direct result of their dastardly deeds. Americans need not accept any guilt or inuendos of barbarity for actions designed to stop the carnage of an enemy nation. Let the apologists and the historical revisionists continue to bark at the moon with misplaced angst if they must, but let those who look at the lives saved and the moral ground of higher elevations give thanks for having the military ability at that time to help the world resume a more normal orbit. Ken

    • Anonymous

      Bravo sir.

      • Anonymous

         Ditto, why not have the outlines of the civilians and sailors killed during the bombing of Pearl Harbor drawn out. There was a reason we dropped those bombs. There are reasons why we have those weapons today. It keeps others honest. Does anyone think that if we had not developed the bomb first that it would not have been used against us? Does anyone think that if we did away with our weapons that other countries would still leave us alone? Is is sad but true that the treat of a return strike keeps our enemies at bay.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you. Ken

    • Anonymous

      Their organization has deep ties with the CPUSA, and the agenda is far more than peace and justice. One only needs to take a casual look “under the hood” to see what their motives are.

      • Anonymous

        What are their motives exactly?

        • Anonymous

          Well for starters, they list the Maine Coalition for Peace and Justice as a supporter. If you then go to their website, you will come across this page indicating “participating supporters” for a multitude of Peace and justice centers, and if you notice on the lower right hand side of the page, you will see a link to the Communist Party of Maine, and the Democratic Socialists of America. I’m sure it’s all innocent and above board right? If one roots around in recent history, there has been a lot of support between CPUSA and the Peace and Justice Center in general.

    • Anonymous

      No regrets what so ever, would do it again.
      This is what OWS does in the off season.

    • Xerxies

       Oh my! Extremely well written, succinct, hard hitting TRUTH! You are the man!

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for your kind words. Ken

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps they should move to Japan and protest.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care what uniform you wear or what flag you fly, nobody wins in a war.

    • Anonymous

      Sad, isn’t it. Every young man around the world in a military uniform will do whatever he is ordered to do. A point I try to make with a military person is that no matter where he was born and brought up, he has been taught that it is honorable to die for his country. If all of the American soldiers who died in World War II had been born in Germany instead of America, they would have fought for Hitler. And the same is true in reverse. And we call ourselves “civilized”? Hmmm.

      • Anonymous

        Not just Germany–it happened here before WWII. People forget the men in blue–the U. S. Cavalry–who stormed the West and killed Native American men, women and children, under orders from some of the most vile men to live–generals like Sheridan, Custer, and Jackson, backed by the U. S. Government– who ordered the wholesale slaughter of entire Nations. Those who did not die were rounded up and forced to live in the U. S.’s version of concentration camps, better known to Americans and the world by the euphemism, Indian Reservations. In this case it was greed for land and resources that fueled the Genocide, but it could just as easily been religion, or any number of other rationales. The important thing is to remember. The lessons of history repeat time and again, and everywhere on earth someone’s people have been decimated at some point, and that cycle did not stop with Hitler’s demise. 

  • Anonymous

    Gee, why didn’t BDN call Gordon Williamson and Joe Brooks for a comment on the use of a public park (as you ran as front page news), for a gathering with a political message? Those two “gentlemen” were recently outraged that a conservative group conducted an event at a public park. Where is the balance BDN?

  • Anonymous

    Eminent historian Max Hastings states the rock solid argument for bombing Japan rather succinctly in his book  “Retribution”.  He also sums up his position here:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/jul/30/japan.secondworldwar

    Sometimes there are absolutely no peaceful solutions to absolute madness.  The Japanese Empire in WWII is a case in point.  See also the present Islamist movement.  They want you dead, period, and it doesn’t matter why.  You fail to act at your own peril. 

    • Anonymous

      Excellent book, should be read by everyone.  Available at BPL.

  • Anonymous

    These folks seem to have no regard for the atrocities committed by other foreign regimes.  They only take issue when it is the US with “blood on its hands” regardless of the cause.  They will always see the US as the big bad enemy no matter what.  Get off the ground weirdos, you look foolish.

  • Anonymous

    It’s worth remembering that the firebombing attacks against Japanese cities in early 1945 were considerably more destructive – and lethal – than the atomic bombings. In fact, General LeMay, who commanded the bomber force, later speculated that if he hadn’t run out of firebombs the war might have ended before the atomic bomb was ready.

    But The Bomb was more dramatic, and I suspect that Drama plays a large role in the psyches of our self-appointed public consciences.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for making one of my points for me.  Again, in”Retribution” and elsewhere, it’s pointed out that one reason Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen was that firebombing had so damaged other targets that the A-bombs had to go elsewhere.  Oh, and there were military targets in those cities.

  • Anonymous

    attention seekers-to much time on their hands…it’s all hog wash

  • Anonymous

    Notice to all Japanese haters: Clifton Truman Daniel honors the 140,000 killed by the 1945 bombing authorized by his grandfather.

    • Anonymous

      Who you callin’ a Japanese hater?  The Japanese people, including many of their soldiers, were duped by a maniacal warrior class running the government.  The A-bombs were the lesser of two great evils.  Think of how many people, including many more innocent Japanese civilians, would have been killed in the averted invasion.  As posted elsewhere, read “Retribution”.

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