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Comments for: Deep cuts to MaineCare may depend on Supreme Court’s health reform decision

  • Anonymous

    We need goverment run hospitals for people with no health insurance.

    • What a fabulous idea. The government runs everything so smoothly…

      • Anonymous

        Maybe we could model it after Wall Street and the banking industry that we had to bail out.

        • Anonymous

          Yes cause there is a lot of shady investing going on at hospitals you dumb frig.

      • pbmann

        The government runs many things very well.  Look at our military, our police and fire departments, Medicare/Medicaid with it’s 2% overhead and many other things.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you governor lepage for working towards your promises to cut back on social services

    • Anonymous

      Personally, I think that entrusting my health care, and the health care of my children to people whose only goal is to increase quarterly profits for their shareholders is a wonderful idea.

      • Anonymous

        I have never, not once, despite 10’s of thousands of dollars claims, has my insurer declined to pay a bill.
        I would rather not have my healthcare be a budget line in a government spending bill. The current debacle confirms my thinking. Do you really want your healthcare delivered on the whim of a politician?

        • Anonymous

          You’re fortunate. My husband and I have struggled for years with insurance coverage for our daughter.

          I don’t want my insurance premiums to go toward some CEO’s sky-high salary or to finance a for-profit insurance company’s self-serving opposition to health insurance reform.

          • Anonymous

            Obviously government bureaucrats are a whole different matter. But tell me, where do you go if an insurance company does not live up to its obligations? The State insurance bureau that represents your interests, right? Where do you go when the government doesn’t live up to its obligations? The government?

          • Anonymous

            Yes, of course.

            If there is a problem with the fire department or the police department (local government agencies), you address them through the appropriate channels.

            If there is a problem with MaineCare, Medicare, or SSI (e.g., for our disabled daughter), we address them through the appropriate workers in those agencies.

            If there is a problem with health insurance, you address it through the appropriate channels, whether at the for-profit insurer or a government agency.

          • Anonymous

             And in each of those “channels” you have no recourse except to accept the governments answer. Good luck getting the result you desire in a time when the government has no competition. 

          • Anonymous

            The for-profit insurance companies also say No, and they have essentially no competition.

            Any bureaucracy can be frustrating. I’ll go for one that is not basing its decisions about my health on its desire for profits to support multi-million dollar CEO salaries.

          • Anonymous

            Are you serious? no competition? Do you know the avg insurance company survives on a 4% profit margin?

          • Anonymous

            You would rather they go to death panels and the gov choosing who to help and who is a lost cause? See what you libs fail to understand is that private insurance pays for anyone who pays premiums. Most of us will pay for the gov premiums but not all of us will receive benefits. And a persons station in life is no ones fault but their own.

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          • Anonymous

            “Private insurance pays for anyone who pays premiums”…Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
            Paying their premiums guarantees you nothing. 
             
            And death panels?  I know there are some gullible people out there, but wow that’s weak.

          • Anonymous

            Paying the premium guarantees you that the insurance company will pay the bills they agree too when you signed the contract. That’s what a contract is you know.

          • Anonymous

            Unless, of course, the insurer practices recission. Rescission is the termination of a contract from the beginning (as if it never existed).

            “In health insurance and specifically the individual and small group insurance markets, rescissions have generally followed the diagnosis of an expensive-to-treat illness in the patient (policyholder)…

            “This practice was [revealed] during the 2009 US healthcare debate, known colloquially as “cancel coverage when you get sick”. The practice of health insurance rescission was partially limited starting September 23, 2010,following the adoption of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in 2010.

            “A House committee report found that WellPoint Inc., UnitedHealth Group and Assurant rescinded policies for more than 20,000 people over a five-year period… In 2010, it was revealed that WellPoint specifically targeted women with breast cancer for aggressive investigation with the intent to cancel (rescind) their policies. The disclosures followed the discovery that Assurant Health similarly targeted all recently-diagnosed HIV-positive (AIDS) policyholders for rescission…” [Wikipedia]

          • Anonymous

            I have never had that happen to me despite close to $200k I have cost my insurer personally over the last 15 years.

            Should that happen and not covered by the contract then you could sue. There are bevy of attorneys just waiting to jump on a case like that.

          • Anonymous

            And if it hasn’t happened to Cheesecake, then by golly it sure doesn’t matter that it happened to those women with breast cancer…

            As insurance companies know very well, people who are debilitated by a significant illness are not quite full of the energy and general pizzaz that it takes to mount an effective fight.

            Locating the right attorney out of that “bevy” is the first challenge, then trying to survive long enough for the attorney to mount a successful case.

            In the meantime the insurer is going through the original insurance application with a fine-toothed comb, leaving the woman fighting cancer to prove that either the company is wrong (she did NOT lie about never having had a hangnail), or that the hangnail occurred after she got the policy (better sift through all those old records), or having had a hangnail has nothing to do with whether or not she’s developed cancer 25 years later…

          • Anonymous

            Believe me there any number of lawyers that would accept a suit like that in a heartbeat. All you would need to do is stand in the lobby of any of the major Bangor firms. There are firms that advertise “no cost to you until settlement”. Pick one.

          • Anonymous

            Remarkably naive statement.  The contracts in effect say “We have the right to reject anything we feel like.”  And they do…often, usually when people need it most. 
             
            And if the GOP has its way with its activist Supreme Court…forget even trying to get insurance if when you are born your genetic makeup predisposed you to having a condition such as Muscular Dystrophy……They might not make a profit off you!

          • Anonymous

             I expect you may be not only naive yourself but ill-informed. Obviously you have little experience with insurance and insurers. My experience covers over 25 years of contracts reviewing rates and coverage. I have never not gotten exactly what I contracted for and neither have the people that work for me.

          • Anonymous

            Taking ones own personal experience and projecting it onto all of society is the very definition of naive. Trust me, I spend much more of my time immersed in health care policy than you do.

          • Anonymous

             Isn’t that exactly what you are doing???

            Please show me a link to a health insurance contract that says as you say…

             “We have the right to reject anything we feel like.”

            If you are immersed in healthcare insurance and policy as you say that shouldn’t be too difficult.

          • Anonymous

            Where did I talk about a personal experience and then project it as if my reality must apply to everyone?  LizDavies response to you above is an excellent example of what I am talking about (rescission).  Please note my use of the term “in effect says”

          • Anonymous

            ‘Trust me, I spend much more of my time immersed in health care policy than you do.”~~~~ bradygirl2
            I took a look at “rescission”. It would seem to me a minor point easily fixed with a peice of legislation, certainly in and of itself not a reason to dismantle a third of the US economy.

            Ok I’ll settle for in effect says… where is it please.

          • Anonymous

            Thank you for stating the Republican philosophy in a nutshell:

            1) Big Business and Wall Street can do as they please–they can bring the US economy to the brink of Depression II–and any individuals who get laid off deserve blame for their “station in life.”

            2) Paying premiums to the for-profit insurance corporations is great–it helps subsidize multi-million dollar salaries for their CEOs! And if you don’t fall ill and need the company to pay your medical bills, that’s fine.

            3) Paying premiums to a national health insurance plan would be terrible–after all, you might not fall ill and thus wouldn’t receive benefits.

            4) Letting for-profit corporations deny you health care to help their bottom line is the all-American way to go (literally). 

            5) Believing lies about national health insurance involving death panels is virtuous, and will protect you from the bogeyman (socialism).

        • pbmann

          You would rather your healthcare be a budget line in a for profit company?

          I have had instances where my doctor could not do a medical procedure because my insurance would not cover it.  I had him do it anyway and paid for it out of my own pocket because my doctor and I decided it was needed regardless of what some pencil pusher decided.  In my case it was not an expensive test but what if it had been?

          • Anonymous

            Yes as a mater of fact I would.  When I sign agreements I know what I am buying, why don’t you?

            Why didn’t you get more comprehensive coverage??? You do have that option.

            How do you know any government would cover that same test anyway??

          • Anonymous

            Exactly the private company must keep customer service standards. The gov has no overseers. We are supposed to be but since when does the gov listen to us?

          • pbmann

            I had the most comprehensive coverage that was offered at my place of employment.  Yes I could have bought additional coverage from a separate health insurance company but I was already paying $160 a month extra for my coverage.

            And no, I do not know if a government policy would have covered it because we don’t know what kind of coverage we would get from the government but I don’t htink it would be any worse that for profit health insurance company.

            Why does it cost, on average 31% of your health insurance premium for “administrative” costs when the US governemnt can administer Medicare with an overhead of 2%. 

            How much of that “adminstrative” overhead consist of huge salaries for Health Insurance executives?

            How much of that “administrative” overhead is budgeted for cost reduction, better known as declining benefits or dropping clients for costing too much?

          • Anonymous

             How long would you have had to wait for this test?

          • pbmann

            I would have had to wait 6 months for the test again.  It was an A1C blood test, costs about $50, $35 if you buy one and do it yourself (didn’t know this until later).

            Two years ago I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type II, my fasting glucose level was 420 (normal is 80-120) and my A1c  was 12.4 (between 6 and 7 is normal), 6 months later (after much hard work on my part) I tested at 6.9 but my doctor wanted to retest my a month later to make sure that my numbers remained steady or got better not worse.  He was not able to do this inexpensive test (again about $50 to do one) so I paid for it out of pocket.

            Six months was much longer then my doctor wanted to wait because my initial numbers were so bad and I had corrected them so fast, he was impressed because my work ethic and desire was much more than he was used to seeing.

    • Anonymous

      Because you’re absolutely certain that YOU will never need social services.

      You will never lose your job and be unable to find one. You will never have a severe medical illness that insurance doesn’t cover, so you will never go into medical bankruptcy. Your home will never go into foreclosure.

      None of your children or grandchildren will be born disabled or develop a disability.

      You will never grow old.

      So slashing social services seems like a great idea… except that one day you might discover that you are not an exception to the rule:

      Bad things do happen to good people.

      • Anonymous

        Good things happen to bad people.

        • Anonymous

          True enough. And some people who are not particularly good –people who do things any sensible person would disapprove of–do receive social services.

          Some Commenters might argue that this means social services should be slashed for everyone, even though that would mean that when good people (like our loyal Commenters) have horrible things happen to them, help would no longer be available.

          In my view, such a policy would be cutting off one’s own nose to spite someone else’s face.

      • What about all the twenty and thirty year old people who are to lazy to work and deal drugs and have the state pay for everything for them just because they have children.The children never receive the money yet the state pays for their rent,car insurance,food,auto repair bills,illegal drugs,etc thru Tanif and other programs?Why should they work when everything is given to them?I have seen them throw food right in the trash.They don’t have to pay for it so why should they care.Seen them buy drugs and cell phones with their Tanif money.Its all crazy and has to stop.

        • Anonymous

          This article is about medical services. The stretch involved in arguing that everything boils down to welfare abuse seems hard to fathom when discussing whether or not to set a broken leg.

          • Anonymous

            No it has to do with paid medical coverage. If you go in with a broken leg and no insurance guess what? it still gets set…

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        • Anonymous

          This is always the response from those who don’t want to support social services programs, that there is abuse and therefore the program ought to be eliminated.  My friend here’s a lesson about humans and life in general; there will always be those who exploit the system, always.  I could write a never ending list of those who abuse the system including the wealthy, the poor, the powerful, the meek, and some who are in between.  Yet this fact of life doesn’t mean you completely abandon that which you know is the right thing to do.  To me it is completely unacceptable that some Americans go without medicine for their cancer (or other disease) and thus die an early death, that so many go hungry or without warmth on a freezing winters night, or they lose their ability to function for whatever reason, and thus cannot become a contributor to society, simply because a small percentage of their brethren abuse the system.  There but for the grace of God go I.  All you folks who are opposed to social services and yet claim to believe in a Christian God, don’t be a hypocrite.  Support a national healthcare plan which guarantee’s ALL Americans have healthcare.

          • Anonymous

            its not that “we” dont want to help those in need. its the system that provides the help that is the problem. when government gets out of the picture, and the churches and charities that we support, are seeing and helping those truely in need, then we all can provide what we can to the provider we choose. instead of the government stealing from us and sqandering our money how they deem useful.

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          • Anonymous

            As a matter of fact yes. There are those that do not deserve help and it would be nice to choose not to help them.

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        • Anonymous

          You’re out of your mind AND you don’t know what you are talking about.
          That there are a occasionally a few notable exceptions, suggests this is not the norm for the majority in need of services. 

          It’s simply not so…

          …so, stop repeating it.

        •  What about all those mentally ill and elderly that the Emperor of the Blaine House cut funding to their group homes? Exactly how are they too lazy to work?

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      • Anonymous

        Probably a trust fund baby

      • Anonymous

         Funny people in Maine have been taking care of there families for generations without government aid! Back when those who got to old or infermed where brought into the children’s home and not left at some home. Back when a child who had problems was cared for by the whole family. Back when if you needed for anything some member of your family or maybe church would come to help just as you had done when others needed help in some way be it food or a winter blanket or maybe some firewood. So what has changed? Well Family. Kids are taught it is not better to have one. So they have kids out of wedlock then rely on the state to care for them there whole lives and rely on the state for there every need. I will keep my family I trust them. If only more people had a family to back them up.

  • Anonymous

    what about the kids here…they are the ones that will lose out on home care visits and early learning through the Headstart programs.  Go to any school and ask any kindergarten teacher how many kids aren’t ready for school their first year.  The good old governor says that he wants to help education.  How is cutting funds to Headstart helping education?

    • Anonymous

      The fact that you apparently claim there are a large number of kids not ready for school their first year demonstrates the failure of head start, it doesn’t reinforce that it is a worthy place to put our money. Maybe pre-K (which already overlaps a lot of head start programs) or a renewed focus by, gasp! parents! would do something better.

    • Anonymous

       The federal government itself did a study that showed no gains from Head Start. they delayed releasing it because HS is a sacred cow:

      http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2081778,00.html

      • I just read your link.  It’s a good one.  It starts out explaining how class warfare is taking place and the rich are winning.  Good article.

    • Anonymous

      How about the parents take responsibility and give their kids the tools they need. Im tired of paying for other parents mistakes.

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    • Anonymous

      My insurance (that I pay for each week) doesn’t give me these things.  So if these things were so imparitive to a childs developement why isn’t it covered through all insurances.  I don’t agree with programs that only serve the low income children and leave others out.  Many of these parents don’t work and should be spending time with their children and teaching them — I work and don’t have my days to spend having fun and sharing with my children so I pack everything into the four hours left when I get home (and I love this time).  I work where I see children being picked up from school by their one on one aids that will be with them until bedtime everyday.  Get a label for you kid and you get ample “free time” even if you don’t work — or should I say only if you don’t work because — the only insurance that covers this service is Maincare — another needed service but not recognized by other insurance companies?

      • Anonymous

        you don’t know who I am…I am not someone who is low income and I do not get Mainecare. I have a son who is makes the honor roll in school. Before he started school we worked with him to make sure he was ready for school, however there are many parents that don’t work with their kids to make sure they are ready for school when they start. Some people can afford to send their kids to preschool and others cannot. Why make the kids of parents who can’t afford to send them to preschool suffer by taking away the headstart programs.

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        From: Disqus
        To: jlhazelwood@yahoo.com
        Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:44 AM
        Subject: [bdn] Re: Imminent cuts to MaineCare, other services may depend on Supreme Court’s health reform decision

        justbeing wrote, in response to community_matters_to_me:
        My insurance (that I pay for each week) doesn’t give me these things.  So if these things were so imparitive to a childs developement why isn’t it covered through all insurances.  I don’t agree with programs that only serve the low income children and leave others out.  Many of these parents don’t work and should be spending time with their children and teaching them — I work and don’t have my days to spend having fun and sharing with my children so I pack everything into the four hours left when I get home (and I love this time).  I work where I see children being picked up from school by their one on one aids that will be with them until bedtime everyday.  Get a label for you kid and you get ample “free time” even if you don’t work — or should I say only if you don’t work because — the only insurance that covers this service is Maincare — another needed service but not recognized by other insurance companies? Link to comment

  • Anonymous

    Obamacare is going down like the Hindenburg, and for that matter so is Obama come November. If the moon bats think Obamacare is going to save them they are in for a shock in the next week or so. Buh Bye illegal and unconstitutional healthcare law, and way to waste two years on NOTHING Barry. LMAO

    • Anonymous

      How fortunate that your own insurance company has excellent coverage and affordable premiums, without a sky-high deductible.

      You just know, somehow, that either your health will always be perfect, or you will always have a great policy from a for-profit insurer.

      You’re absolutely certain that you won’t have to find new insurance and be turned down for a pre-existing condition. You’ll never discover that your insurer refuses to pay for services they contracted to cover. You’ll never have a disabled child or grandchild who can’t find insurance at any price. You’ll never be dropped from your policy for the sin of becoming ill.

      Unless you’re mistaken.

      Then it will you and your family who “go down like the Hindenburg.”

      • Anonymous

        Why do you wish bad things upon people? Is it because they don’ think like you?

        • Anonymous

          I’m not wishing anything bad upon you or anyone else. I’m stating a fact: terrible things can and do happen to people. I certainly never expected to give birth to a child with a disabling genetic disorder, for example.

          I worry about people who are quick to say all social services should be slashed and think that having their health care insured by a corporation whose core concern is financial profit is a great idea.

          One day, more likely than not, they will discover that they need the very services they’ve fought mightily to demolish.

    • Anonymous

      Obamacare may in fact be overturned by a Supreme Court that clearly has a political agenda. Need I remind everyone how they hijacked the 2000 Presidential election. My hope for some semblance of sanity was restored with the latest Bloomberg poll this morning. 55% in favor of re-electing President Obama, 40% in favor of Romney. The people of Maine will wake up and evict LeRage the Bufoon at our earliest opportunity. He has turned our state into a national laughing stock.

      • Anonymous

        66% (or more) of the American People want Obamacare overturned. Why is that ultimate truth too hard for you to understand? Its not Constitutional in the first place. I just find it incredibly ironic to get this from someone who probably has a (61%) bumper sticker on their vehicle. When the majority favors you, you are all for following the will of the people, but when the numbers are 2/3rds against you its a “political agenda”.

        • Anonymous

          It’s deffinitely a political agenda, perpetuated by your heros at Fox news. The issue for me is about economics. Studies have shown that Romneycare has saved hundreds of thousands annually, by providing a health care alternative to people that otherwise wouldn’t get treated until their condition required more intensive and costly treatment. Not only is providing health care for everyone the moral thing to do; it makes the most economical sense as well.

          • Anonymous

            66%

          • Anonymous

            I reposted 66% because in your rush to post the Media Matters talking points on the issue you forgot about the will of the people again. Funny how you “fair and compassionate” moon bats keep on doing that.

  • Douglas Watts

    I’ve always believed that babies were the thing that was dragging this state’s economy down. They keep demanding food, clothing and shelter. And all they can do is ‘cry’. Well, wa wa, you 1 month old babies. Gov. LePage has put you on the steps of the humane society shelter at 2 a.m. —  where you belong.

    • Anonymous

      What are you even talking about?

      • Anonymous

        Parents with no income popping out babies they cannot support is what is dragging us down./

        • Guest

          111

  • Anonymous

    I do not agree with the group home cuts, but everything seems reasonable within limits.

  • Anonymous

    Hillary Clinton is a communist?!!!!! You (I cannot use the proper word in a public forum) clown.  Stop listening to Limbaugh and start thinking for yourself.

    • Anonymous

      Stop listining to Jon Stewart for your news.

      • Anonymous

        Honestly, I don’t know who Jon Stewart is.

  • Free dental, child care, health care, cell phones, housing, you name it, Maine has it.  Just don’t get a job!!

    • Anonymous

      what jobs?

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      • Anonymous

         I thought Obama’s stimulus was supposed to solve that problem.

      • Anonymous

        Very few jobs are going to give you FREE healthcare but it is what it is — I work not making much over minimum wage and pay for my healthcare every week.  People shouldn’t think that unless they are going to make a mint and get free healthcare then are going to stay at home and let others take care of it for them. If everyone contributed something then they’d be more money to help everyone.

  • Anonymous

    Cut the waste!!!

  • Anonymous

    When you run out of money, what then? That time has come!

    • Is Maine really running out or money?  We have an unoccupied building not far away.  It used to be a supermarket.  What could go in that building now?  The major growth industry in the state is gambling which depends on discretionary spending for a customer base.  Maybe the builiding could be set up for gambling. Evidently Mainers have unneeded money to throw away having fun.

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