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Comments for: Angus King pledges to discourage super-PAC money if his opponents do the same

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t Obama say no to PAC’s first? and then when it sunk into the public consciousness that he was not going to take dirty corporate and other money; quickly did an about face and outspent his opponent 3:1.

    fool me once……..

  • ptkitty

    Angus King must see a big advantage in making such a challenge to his opponents. 

     “Let’s limit their sources of income and I’ll just spend my own money to beat them.”    

    A political manipulator  who still sits on the fence making his political calculations.   I doubt that Dill and the Dems and Summers and the Repubs will buy into this scheme.

    • Anonymous

      Angus King lacks the backing of the financial dynamo of either the Democratic or Republican parties. While he is most certainly the frontrunner, he doesn’t have that advantage. This is an effort that ties in neatly with his positive campaign pledge while making any PAC support to Cynthia Dill and Charles Summers look bad. So, yes, it’s a part of his campaign’s “political calculations,” but it’s also likely to keep the tone of the race more civil.

      • Anonymous

        Good analysis. It would be nice to see/hear fewer negative attack ads and to receive fewer robo-calls.

      • Anonymous

        You’re wrong in several respects.

        King is a product of the NPR political machine and he ‘hides’ behind his media mask or is it masque? He is a superb extemporaneous speaker, esp. before his 1% corporate cronies.

        He is also going to benefit from well funded third party non-profits; whose issue agenda will just happen to coincide with his resulting in a flood of endorsements from the various environmental, social service, etc. groups his ‘cronies’ control.

        The Cutler/King/Sussman cabal will ‘invest’ in both his issues and campaign tactics which can’t be measured until after the election; two week phone banks, last minute get out the vote—-whose vote, why the one for civil discourse and moderation. 

        The race will be civil; none of that angry political debate that has characterized American elections since the Declaration of Independence was signed.  

        Why? because the offensive messages will be delivered by clever media manipulators and proxies; so Angus won’t even get his hands dirty. 

        • Anonymous

          Actually, I’m not wrong. I said he doesn’t have the financial support of an extant party. He doesn’t. Further, King is making great efforts to distance himself from your so-called “clever media manipulators” by making this statement. PACs could be his counterweight to his opponents’ party funding, but instead he’s decided to leave such things by the curb. Does it make him look good? Yes. But the man is an idealist, through and through, and he’s doing this both as a part of his greater political strategy and because it will make for a cleaner race.

        • Joseph Willingham

          Wow-“NPR Political Machine”!  That’s AWESOME!!!!

    • It’s called “how can I get my name in the news the day after the primary”.

      • Joseph Willingham

        It’s called addressing a topic that resonates with many voters.  You might like watching and hearing commercials from a super PAC with the stupid dramatic music throwing mud at the candidates, but I don’t like it and I’m glad that he’s brought this up.  It sounds like Summers does, though.
        The nominees for the two duopolistic parties were chosen so when else should he make that announcement?  In October?

    • Anonymous

      When you see how much money he has in the bank 
      $468,795 at kast accounting, and how little his two opponents have you see how disingenuous this ‘offer’ really is.

      This how the rich   Democrats operate, first they collect as much as they can, then  they lift up their heads and attempt to take the moral high road….all the way to the bank! 

      • Joseph Willingham

        How did candidates raise money before the 2010 supreme court decisions that allowed super-PACS?  

        I’m sure the candidates from the Coke and Pepsi parties will have no trouble getting money from their fellow party members.  But does it have to be from super PACS that have seemingly unlimited money from corporate donors with no accountability?  

    • Anonymous

      Angus – your ego is killing us.  If we get stuck with some Tea Bag wing-ding because of your political aspirations (and your inability to secure a nomination from an actual party), I’m not going to be especially thrilled with you.  Thus far, this race is about a battle for the middle.  I’d actually like to vote for someone who has the potential to be an inspired leader.  I’m not sure it’s you.

  • Anonymous

    Who cares.

    • Anonymous

      I do . Because I love Maine and Mainers. If our newspapers would just print the truth, Angus would not have gotten one vote.

      • taneka..Angus King hasn’t recieved any votes yet for his Senatorial campaign. Yesterdays primaries were for Republican and Democratic political candidates only. Personally, I don’t think ANY person running for a politcal office at any level should be allowed to take money from any PAC. The ONLY thing PACs have done is to totally corrupt elections and the political process in the US. I would be the first person in line to vote for a Constitionsl Amendment to outlaw PACs period. I also would vote to restrict lawmakes pay to no greater that 2x the national average wage and any increase could not exceed the same COLA percentage the SSI folks get for that year. Also, a budget for staff and expendables that is no greater than their wage, and a total term limit, in any combination of house and senate service, of 12-years; after that they have to go out and get a real job. 

      • Joseph Willingham

        Which newspaper reported Angus getting votes?  There hasn’t been an election that has Angus King on the ballot in years, so you must be reading an old newspaper…

  • Anonymous

    Campaign highlights:

    Windmills!
    Apple Laptops!
    Angus 2012

    • Patten_Pete

      First the laptop, then the mountaintop.

      The man belongs in the big top. Actually, the big house.

      Stay tuned.

  • Pure snake oil from a carpetbagging lawyer.

    • Joseph Willingham

      So, you like super-PACS with their unlimited money and aren’t accountable to anyone?  THAT’S the snake oil….

      • Yawn. Again.

        • Joseph Willingham

          Dear, you’re up too late.  You should go to bed earlier, hon.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think non-voting entities should be able to have such an influence on our elections.

  • PabMainer

    If it is right to oppose and discourage this type of political spending Mr. King, then why not just do it yourself without the stipulation that your opponents also agree to do it ??

    • Anonymous

      Doesn’t work if only one does it. Obviously.

      It’s like traditionally candidates have raced on foot, but now most are racing on bikes. You’re essentially asking King to stay on foot and so the winner is then determined by who can afford the best bike. King wants a foot race.

    • He is not  foolish!

      Thats like going to a gun fight against the Younger Gang and putting your gun  down first in good faith!

    • Anonymous

      Absolutely agree, be a leader or get out of the way, and only doing right when getting others to agree first seems to be the cheap way out politically.  Great leaders of past history have stood out on many occassion by making a decision apart from the majority.

  • Anonymous

    I hope none of his opponents are dumb enough to let this grifter sandbag them.

    Kind of reminiscent of when Obama reneged on his promise to use public financing for his campaign in 2008.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/06/obama-to-break/

    •    I remember that, I was disapointed that he was just another crooked politician and then he came out and said, 

         I know what I said and I have to break that promise for the greater good as it is the only way that I am going to win!

      I thought, well —I give him a pass “this” time!

  • Anonymous

    THAT WOULD BE A CRIMINAL ACT EVEN FOR A KING.

  • Anonymous

    “If and discourage.”  Bold words. 

  • Anonymous

    That’s very decent of him since he has no party (overtly) backing him.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know much about Angus King but I take it from the comments that he must be filthy rich?  Well… I don’t necessarily agree with what he is saying in entirety.  I think he left an important step out… I think they need to put a cap on spending for all candidates in all campaigns regardless of where the donations come from.  

    That said, I’ve always thought it is a bad idea to have large organizations treated as if they are individual citizens.  I don’t like it when these organizations throw vast amounts of money at a political campaign in order to sway an election.    These political donations aren’t free.  The donors expect paybacks when their candidate is elected… paybacks benefiting them.     

    Political organizations argue that this somehow removes their right to donate as individuals and thus inhibits their free speech.  This is not true at all… they can absolutely as individual Maine residents contribute to a candidates campaign.  

    Many of these donor organizations are national groups.  How can we be sure that only funds donated by national groups represent the position of Maine residents?   I would think that quite possibly some of the people that are members of national groups may not be residents of Maine and therefore should not be attempting to sway our elections.  I don’t think non-residents should ever have an equal right to donate to campaigns in state elections.  Right now they can via national group donations.  

    It is my position that groups should never be treated as individuals… that’s not what they are. Additionally I think without a spending cap any rich person can buy a seat in the Senate or any other electoral position simply by outspending their opponents. We don’t have to make up the difference by giving money to the candidate with less money… we simply need to limit the spending to make it a fair and equitable election.

    • Anonymous

      His wife is the filthy rich one, giving $5,000 to the Obama Victory Fund, while Angus ‘only’ gave $1,000….and remember neither he nor she are ‘acknowledged’ Democrats.  Mary also gave Angus’s campaign $2,500.   *** Political Money Line also list’s three $2,500 contributions to the Obama campaign from a ‘Mary King’ of Mclean, Va. Hmmmm? 

      Angus already has $468,795 accounted for; Dill has only $38,355 and Summers has only $89,915; so you could say Angus has all the cash he needs to run a very strong race; so why not deny your opponents funding by agreeing to not accept PAC money.

      Her other contributions were to the 2008 Obama campaign, Chelly Pingree’s Campaign and even $250 to MOVE-ON.

      Angus gave $1,000 to the 2012 Obama Victory fund.

      Two questions…where did the money come from and who’s your Independent candidate now?

      • Anonymous

        Two answers:   To question #1 – I don’t know! To question #2 – I never had an Independent candidate that I supported… like I said, I know very little about Angus King.   I’m getting an education here though! 

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    • Anonymous

       I’ve said it for years.

       Examine what your priorities are.  If they appear a little out of whack you may want to do a little soul searching.

       If legalizing THC is what your life is all about, If the need to escape reality is your PRIORITY it is not a good one..

       I’m almost 50 and i’ve more then likely smoked ,much more through the course of my life. WEED should not be legalized

       Just because you like something doesn’t make it a good thing. And yes, it does have SOME medical value but certainly not as much as the propaganda machine would have you believe.

       I just wanted to address the crux of your post.

       I know you won’t agree. I know you think you know it all, that a government site on substance abuse is all a lie,  that WEED is a MIRACLE cure. Well, They aren’t lying and it isn’t a cure all for every muscle ache or sore ankle. I know I need to repeat this because everyone I encounter keeps saying the same thing. “You’re wrong it’s a good “natural” cure.  
      IT IS OF VALUE IN “SOME AREAS” ABSOLUTELY. 

       More then likely you’re not even aware that weed is a hallucinogenic. Well it is, which means it skews your perception. Living that way all day everyday is not healthy.

  • Anonymous

    Does this mean that Mr King will not accept money from CENTRAL MAINE POWER?

    • Anonymous

      Just VESTAS, etc.  via various wind industry lobbying, err, education groups. 

    • Joseph Willingham

      That’s not what this means at all.  Donations to his campaign fall under strict guidelines.  Donations to super-PACS are different.  

  • He should pledge to discourage super pac money because it is the right thing to do, not just if his opponents pledge to do the same. Does this man believe in ANYthing? Will he stand up for ANYthing?

    • Joseph Willingham

      And will that really get him votes if the others play dirty and he doesn’t?    All the mudslinging going on-people believe that crap and it won’t matter that he’s taking the high road.

  • Patten_Pete

    What a fraud of a man.

    Angus the knave.

  • Anonymous

     Not gonna lie, I only perused the article. 

     Saying you’ll disavow SP money if the “Other guy” does, is about as politically motivated  as it gets.

    Don’t do that. Don’t be a politician.

    • Joseph Willingham

      Is that what he is?

  • Guest

    Oh how I hope people  actually  stop and remember. We do not want this man back in any office of any kind! Obviously we are going to have to read alot of drivel from the BDN, since they are already spamming the minute you log onto the BDN in support of him. Think people, and remember!

  • Anonymous

    The only reason King offered this is to protect his huge lead in name recognition.  Haven’t we all had enough of him already?

  • Anonymous

    King need not be concerned about instilling an aura of mystery concerning his political positions and flawed ideology to Mainers . An unproductive and dilatory  tour at the Blaine House, lavish payoffs from the Federal government to underwrite his Quixote quests, and the rapacious destruction of Maine’s wilderness are all too familiar themes to those who have eyes to see.  Like his ebony inamorata in Washington, King will pursue an agenda of moral decline and uncontrolled spending, ignoring the wishes of hard-working Mainers while ushering our children and grandchildren into an age of government excess that resigns them to a common existence. This mildewed remnant of average intellect will unlikely go away in the near future; however, he should be reminded frequently  and often that a failed legacy cannot be easily obfuscated.

    • Guest

      That was quite a rant. I think I agree with you. 

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t vote for King if he were the only choice.

    • Anonymous

      indeed….his governorship was a disgrace

  • Anonymous

    NO King this year,,,we have a Lepage….

  • Anonymous

    Maine where  you may  fool many of the people  much of the time.
    Prime example…King Angus, Windfool Carpetbagger from Virginia.

  • Anonymous

    Angus King time has passed. What a political calculator. He will try to control the tempo but will raise money from wealthy donors friends. He does however, support OBAMA which was his claim when he first decided to get into the race. No thanks!!

  • This has nothing to do with creating a more civil race, AK knows there’s no independent super pac lining up to spend money on him.  This only hurts the other 2 and has zero effect on his campaign.

  • Guest

    What a bunch of crap..
    I’m glad you are running angus

  • Anonymous

    Where is the journalistic inquiry into Mike Michaud’s  
    $468,795 collected from PAC’s?

    • Joseph Willingham

      HE collected that money?  Candidates don’t receive super-PAC money.  Are you saying that his campaign actually took almost a half-a-million dollars from a super-PAC?

  • Anonymous

    If Angus had any moral conviction about using these funds, he would simply NOT do it. Don’t believe a word he says.

  • Anonymous

    King will not need super-pac money.  He will receive support from the Democrat Senate Campaign Committee.  Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer have already pledged their support for 
    King and won’t be giving Dill a dime.  They think they can control him once elected and they feel he has the best odds of winning.  A good reason for Democrats to vote for Summers this time around.

  • Guest

    Does this mean Quimby has already bought herself a candidate..?

    Who knows, Quimby might have bought herself two, just in case one fails…

  • Justin Haggerty

    Some people need to understand PAC and SUPER PACs are two different concepts. Super PAC money is bad, really bad for politics. It essentially gives any candidate an ability to accept unlimited political support through a supposed “third party.”

    • Joseph Willingham

      And that money can be used to do all the dirty work, no accountability, and the candidate remains distant from the whole stinking mess.

  • Patten_Pete

    I see from the photo how Angus King wraps himself in the flag as I’m sure his handlers have counseled.

    King was born March 31, 1944 and graduated from law school in Virginia in 1969.
     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_King

    The next year was the selective service lottery. The lottery drawing held December 1, 1969, determined the order in which men, born from 1944 through 1950, were called to report for induction into the military. The highest lottery number called for this group was 195; all men assigned that lottery number or any lower number, and who were classified 1-A or 1-A-O (available for military service), were called to report for possible induction. Angus King’s birthday drew a low lottery number of 30.

    http://www.sss.gov/LOTTER8.HTM 

    Was Angus in the military? If not, why not.

    Take a moment from wrapping yourself in the flag Angus and answer this question.

  • Anonymous

    Angus King is the southbound end of a northbound horse!

  • Anonymous

    I think PAC money could be about the economy. Businesses and unions can supply money for costs associated with raising money, rather than spend it on hiring more employees, better benefits and pay.

    To Summers, I think that is Mr. Kings point in steering away from PAC money, the middle class are struggling as it is and have had enough, especially with strong congressional influence from the wealthy, and the tit for tat gimmickry of Washington politics.

  • Anonymous

    Well, of course.  Angus doesn’t have a national organization of shadowy fat-cat puppet-masters to feed a PAC or two.  He has to do his Maine fat-cat bit on his own . . .

    In other words, he offers to give up something he didn’t have in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    SuperPacs should not exist.  No person, corporation or union should be allowed to spend unlimited money for lies and more lies and not even be known.  The USA is being taken over by the rich, whether it is an individual, corporation or union.

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