Comments for: Quimby gates more of her land in Piscataquis County

Posted May 02, 2012, at 5:39 p.m.
Last modified May 02, 2012, at 6:12 p.m.

BARNARD PLANTATION | Millionaire philanthropist and landowner Roxanne Quimby has apparently gated more logging roads on Piscataquis County land she owns near Northwest Ridge Road in Barnard Plantation, a county official said Wednesday. Brad Smith, a resident of Sangerville who owns a camp in the area, said Quimby’s workers …

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  • Anonymous

    I’ll bet this gate will be torn down in less than a week.  lol

    • Anonymous

      Your prediction sheds light on the reason as to why this landowner found it necessary to  install gate access to her privately owned property… because some people truly believe it is as much theirs as it is her’s because of their belief that “what is yours is mine and what is mine is my own”.  

      • Anonymous

        While i can understand your position and agree with it,  what she is facing is 150 years or more of tradition. A tradition that allowed local  people ungated access to undeveloped property for their recreation. A whole culture grew up around the land.

        Consider Roxanne Quimby a modern day King John, denying the occasional forays into the forests by modern day Robin Hoods.

        • 150 year  tradition might not work in a time where people care not for property rights and personal responsibility, and feel free to despoil other’s land and dump trash.
          This Mainer has mixed feelings about the gates, but supports her right as owner to do what she pleases.

          • Anonymous

            Like you I have mixed sentiments at well… but I still can’t help feeling like I’m the Sheriff of Nottingham when I side with Quimby.

          • Robin Crawford, liquidation harvester, is the real culprit.  If anyone has anger issues over Quimby’s actions, you can blame the guy who clearcut 30,000 acres and then handed it over to Miss Quimby. You all see his trucks with the big “C” in lights on the front grill.

        • Guest

           well I feel bad for you. 150 year tradition.  wow.
          nah, I don’t. She has every legal right to do this. The more your tear down her gates, the angrier you’re going to make her and it will get worse. Get over it already.

          • Anonymous

             Wow. Did you get all that from my post? Like I said she has every right to control her property.

        • Daryl DeJoy

           When we talk about tradition we need to understand that tradition is not just the act, it is also the intent of the act. Very few people actually hunt to put food on the family table, although admittedly a few still do. Snowmobiles and ATV’s are not part of any tradition other than a tradition of loving gas guzzling, low effort outdoor recreation. Traditions change. Slavery was a tradition. We had a tradition of not allowing women to vote. Very few (maybe a few posting here, though) would argue those things should be allowed because they were, at one time, part of a “tradition”…

          • Anonymous

             She has every right to control her property. I didn’t dispute that.

        • pbmann

          The tradition of being able to do with one’s own property what one wants is older that the 150 year old tradition of land access.

          I thought Republican’s were all for people being able to do what they want with their land but I guess not.  They only beleive that if they agree with the use of the land.

          • Anonymous

             Gosh I was describing what she was up against. You can misquote me if you want… but it won’t be the first time. so… whatever.

          • pbmann

            “Consider Roxanne Quimby a modern day King John, denying the occasional forays into the forests by modern day Robin Hoods.”  Cheesecake1955

            King John was a Regent that served as king while King RIchard was off fighting in the Crusades.  English law decreed that all land was the property of the king and that he and only he could grant land to others.  Not a valid description of Roxanne Quimby.

            Robin Hood, according to legend, robbed the rich to give to the poor.  Which of the people who wish to use private property for their own use is robbing teh rich and giving to the poor?

          • Anonymous

             Context baby context.

          • pbmann

            In what context would Quimby be like a king in Medieval England and the people who wish to use someone else’s property in anyway they see fit being equated with a mythical person who robs from the rich to give to the poor?

            Beside, Roxanne Quimby has not stopped people from entering her land only by entering it while on a vehicle of some kind.  These same people who wish to enter Quimby’s land can still do so except they will have to do it by foot or bike.

          • Anonymous

             I have no problem with her doing what she did. How much louder can I say it.

          • pbmann

            context baby context

      • Anonymous

        I don’t like her tactics with the park at all.  But it’s amazing how many people think she should let them use her property.  I’m going to park my camper in your dooryard, Chummy…can I plug in?

      • Anonymous

        I do not agree with destroying her property, but I beleive your reasoning is a myth. As with good landowners and bad landowners there are also that enjoy the beauty of the land, and some that make a mess. It seems in her writings she does not want people on the land (yes I know it is hers and she can do what she wants). She should also take it out of tree growth if she is not going to allow people on her land.

        • pbmann

          Tree Growth has nothing to do with allowing people on her land to enjoy it.  It has to do with sustainable harvesting of trees.

          • Anonymous

             It has to do with the amount of property tax paid.

          • pbmann

            Tree Growth was designed to save landowners taxes based on the use of their land for growing and/or harvesting trees, thus the reason it is called Tree Growth. 

            While the land is being cultivated (ie. trees are growing) the land owner does not have to pay the taxes on the full value of the land.  The land owner is required to pay full value for the land when it is harvested for that year (ie. the tree growth plan that all landowners are required by law to have in order to apply and receive the Tree Growth exemption) or in the case of selling the land or using the land  for other uses (ie. taking the land out of tree growth and sells the land to investor(s) for condos or landowner decides to develop the land for condos themselves) the land owner is required to pay the full amount of taxes for all the years the land was in Tree Growth (ie they may owe taxes as far as 10 years back because every ten years a new tree growth plan must be provided to the town or the land owner will lose their tree growth status).

            Thus Tree Growth has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the landowner allows people on the land or not.

          • Anonymous

            Oh Good you learned something today.

            How long have you lived in Maine?

          • pbmann

            No I think it is you that learned something today.  

            I have known about Tree Growth for over a decade because I was employed in a job that required I know what Tree Growth was and it tax implications for municipalities.

            I have lived in Maine for 33 years.  And your point?

          • What happens if she gives the property to another identity without harvesting? Would she have to pay “back taxes”? 

            How does that work when one harvests . Does it only apply to the acreage harvested or the whole parcel?

          • Anonymous

             Be careful with the answers. Sometimes they are made up as you go along.

          • pbmann

            If a person sells his/her land that has a Tree Growth exemption the seller has to pay back taxes on the land so yes she would have to pay taxes on the land she sells if she does not harvest the land first.

          • Anonymous

            It does if she or anyone else gets away with the exeption.

    •  And I hope they arrest the people who do it.

    • Anonymous

       And when it is, I hope that they catch and prosecute the loser that did it.

    • Guest

      Crime prediction a specialty of yours?

      I hope they smile for the hidden gate cameras.

      • Anonymous

        No it’s not.  Is making snarky comments a specialty of yours?

        • Guest

          When it comes to inciting vandalism you reap what you sow.

          What kind of sicko gives a “lol” to the thought that the gate may be vandalised?

          Oh, that’d be you.

          • Anonymous

             EXCUSE ME?  Where in my original post did I say that I wanted that gate
            to be vandalized?  NOWHERE!  Where in my post did I say I hope the gate
            gets ripped down?  NOWHERE!  I was basing my comment on the fact that
            when RQ puts up a gate there’s a good possibility that a disgruntled
            person is going to rip it down.  DID I SAY I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD
            IDEA?  NO!

            Oh, and excuse me for my (lol).  I just find irony in the fact that
            Roxanne (“I want to share my land with the world”) Quimby wastes no time
            putting up gates, ripping down bridges, blocking roads with boulders,
            burning down camps, and acts with scorn toward the very people whom she
            wants to bequeath her “gift” to is always so surprised when one of her
            gates gets torn out, or when she’s finds out how many communities are
            against her park idea. 

            Yes it’s her land and she can do whatever the hell she wants with it. 
            She can gate every damn inch if it if she chooses.  I could care less. 
            If it wasn’t for the fact that she along with her eco-nazi friends are
            trying to shove this stupid park idea down our throats (which MY tax
            dollars would pay for and would give me the right to have an opinion
            about) I wouldn’t give Roxanne Quimby a second thought.  I have plenty
            of my own land to play on and I don’t need hers.

            And just for the record, I DO NOT CONDONE VANDALIZING OR TRESPASSING ON
            ANYONE’S PROPERTY.  Just because I am wondering how long before the gate
            gets ripped out DOES NOT mean that I want it to happen.  Just because I
            put (lol) beside my comment does not mean that I am giving my approval
            for it to happen. It means that I’m sure that some nimrod will tear it
            out, get caught (rightfully so), go to jail and leave RQ bewildered

            as to why it happened.  And if I do get a chuckle out of that that’s my
            own damn business.

            GOT IT?  

             

  • Anonymous

    Gates by someone who continually espouses the benefits she plans to bring to us all? It’s always the ones who loves humanity but despises people who place gates of physical dimensions or nebulous restrictions where they can. Please keep the pictures of unnecesaarily gated access in your mind when listening to future plans for a “Garden for the Masses” and other expanses that are assigned to sour dreams. Ken

    • Anonymous

       Would you feel the same way if some reckless snowmobilers drove across your lawn and threw their empty beer bottles on your porch?  It’s all about property rights.  It’s simple–if you own it, you have the right to keep people off.  You would demand that on your own property.

      • Anonymous

        That is just a liberal excuse, to excute here gating. (and yes I know it is her land)

      • Anonymous

        You actually have had snowmobilers drive across your lawn and dispose of beer bottles on your porch?

        • Anonymous

          I don’t know about freddie, but it has happened to me.

      • Anonymous

        Dear freddiestevens,
           Thanks for your reply. Please keep in mind that the refuse discarded in state and federal parks is simply policed and disposed of, the same option that those of sufficient means could employ if really concerned about the citizens they pre-suppose as dependent. Ken

        • Daryl DeJoy

           It is not the landowners job to clean up after ignorant, littering abusers, nor should they be expected to pay someone to clean up after them. This is utter rubbish mentality and one of the many reasons this mindset is putting us where we now find ourselves.

          • Anonymous

            Dear Daryl,
               Thanks for your reply. Sorry that you consider my mentality “rubbish” but I understand your frustration. I spend 2-3 days a year cleaning the dumping and littering of others in my community. Very sad and frustrating, but we need address the reality of the situation, not the ideal. Garbage will be dumped and those of higher standings need to deal with its consequences. I don’t think its presence precludes the passage of un-gated roads. Ken

        •  “simply policed and disposed of” AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE.
          it seems an “entitlement mentality” is really strong among people who grouse about taxes and “socialist” institutions like federal and state parks. We’re “entitled” to trash our parks because our taxes pay for people to clean them up — is that about right?

          What about if the low-lifes who threw their trash around in the first place were expected — no, forced — to clean it up themselves? Isn’t that the “republican” spirit of “rugged independence,” “no welfare,” “small government,” and “personal responsibility”? Who are these morons who go on public lands and expect others to clean up after them, and how much does it increase our taxes?

          • Anonymous

            Dear Lucy
               Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, morons abound, and while lamenting their actions, we need to help create the environment of choice for all of those who care. Those who pollute don’t really expect anything from us. They don’t care and don’t matter, unless we allow them to dominate our actions. Taxes do not need to be impacted if enough caring persons pick up the slack. Ken

        • Anonymous

           So you think it’s okay to litter and leave a mess on other peoples land? How about taking

          responsibility for your actions.

          • Anonymous

            Dear searoses,
               Thanks for your reply. Sorry about all of your anger. I don’t think it’s ok to mess other peoples’ lands, I take full responsibility for my actions which include not littering and policing my community’s roadsides, but have acclimated to the reality of living with others who are nebulous as reliable citizens. Allowing these individuals to determine our actions is self-defeating and presents us with a limited venue in which to function. Ken

          • Anonymous

             I’m not angry, I believe in taking out what you bring in, I also know that there are those who will never take, responsibility for their actions. She’s willing to let the public use her land, for walking, hiking, and biking. That seem fair to me, I’d rather walk then ride those gas powder beast, when I’m in the woods. I also know that often, the actions of a few spoil thing for the many, time to educate the few.

      • Daryl DeJoy

         She’s not even trying to keep people off it, only motorized vehicles and those who want to kill animals on it. That is a big difference. There are more people in Maine who enjoy the outdoors for the sake of hiking, biking, and other forms of recreation that don’t require gasoline or killing than the opposite. Roxanne advocates for the majority of Maine, even if the minority in the area she has bought the land don’t like it.

    • If you believe in private property rights, you cannot condemn gates on private property.  
      Quimby allows non motorized access.  Park and walk, or bicycle on by.

      • Anonymous

        Just because you don’t have free access with your ½ ton
        doesn’t mean there isn’t access.  In none
        of the pictures is there a No Trespassing sign.

    • Anonymous

      You seem to have missed or ignored the point here. She sending a very clear signal. These lands can become public or they can be locked up. I vote for public.

      •  Can I camp in your back yard?

        •  Or why should I even ask, according to you.

          • Anonymous

            What? My point is she’s giving us an option here. Work with her to find a way to create some kind of public park or deal with losing access. Pretty simple logic.

            If I was treated half a bad has she has been by commenters here I’d have gated everything off and put up game cameras long ago.

          • Anonymous

            She is not giving any option, she is giving people and Ultimatum

          • it’s her land, she can do what she wants with it.
            what is so hard about that?
            she has kindly offered to make it completely public as a park, but the short-sighted boneheads just don’t get it.
            I guess trespassing on private property is preferable to access for all?

          • Anonymous

            It has nothing to do with shortsightedness. It is unfortunate that eco-extremist see it that way. The fact the Federal Government does not have any money and the restrictions on the land are a few things we object too. Which is still are right, her land or not.

          • Anonymous

            You’re saying your right to use land that you don’t own trumps the landowner’s right to control access to her property? So are you going to start paying the property tax on her land now, and paying to fix up the roads and stuff? Do you realize you are promoting a Socialist agenda here?

          • Anonymous

            No, I am saying that she or anyone that uses Tree growth to avoid taxes should not block their land. Also  the State should not stock any ponds or lakes to any blocked lands.

      • Anonymous

        Do you mean public as in National park ?

      • Anonymous

        Dear Kennebecredpine,
           Thanks for your reply. A classic fallacy used in distorted arguments is the “either or” choice, as presented by your statement. There are many other choices between the schism of “public or locked up”. Ken

      • Anonymous

        Dear Kennebecredpine,
           Thanks for your reply. Being “locked up” isn’t restricted to gates and alarms. Woody Guthrie told us that people can be robbed with guns or fountain pens. Similiarly, a public option, dominated by Federal agencies with no concerns for those whose lives are impacted is creating a much more devious form of prison – a nebulous entitiy whose locks and chains, while not visible, become increasingly constrictive through its policies and mandates. Ken

    • Anonymous

      She doesn’t owe the people of Maine anything.  I heard a couple of local yokels complaining about her gates just the other day and I told them that if they wanted free access to land, they should buy some.

      • Anonymous

        We pay her taxes at the tune of 90 % we have a vested interest on this land, take her off tree growth!!

        • Anonymous

          That’s true for every major land owner in Maine.

          • cleanearth

            Baloney.  The paper and pulp corporations’ land is privately-owned land, too, and they can and do  routinely block off sections of their land whenever they want, and they charge money for access in some areas, too……and they charge outrageous amounts of money for people to lease lots on their land.

            I say tax their land – all of it – at what the rest of us have to pay.  Especially because once the trees are mostly gone, they’ll be gone back to wherever they came from, leaving only the Blackflies.

          • Guest

            Including tree-hugger Bruce Poliquin.

        • Anonymous

          How is she not eligible for having that land in tree growth? Poliquin had his residential property in tree growth for years with no harvest plan in place. Is he special?

        • Anonymous

          So let me understand this…just because she gets a tree growth tax credit she is required to keep her private property open to the public?

        • Anonymous

           Since when does getting a tax credit entitle the general public to have access to one’s property?  Does that mean that I can drive your truck, stay in your spare bedroom or pick vegetables from your garden (since you most certainly took at least one income tax credit last year?).  That just bad logic.

        • cleanearth

          Then you’d have to remove all the pulp and paper mills’ tree growth tiny taxes on their lands……….which are greater than Quimby’s by far. 

          I think that’s a great idea!  Charge the pulp and paper mills fair taxes for destroying our primary natural resource – the Maine Woods and all the wildlife therein. 

          Let’s put that to a vote next election. 

      • Sure you did

      • Anonymous

        Dear Bangorian,
           Thanks for your reply. The glaring discrepency with your analysis is that she maintains that she DOES owe the local yokels, et.al. quite a bit, fashioned from a variety of land sources combined into one federal park. It’s difficult to play both sides of a slanted scenario. Ken

  • They are easy to pull down I bet.

    • Anonymous

      Really? And one wonders why she chooses to not allow access to her land. I have noticed there seems to be a lot of people who do not respect other peoples property. 

      Last week look at all the trash left after chicken fest, how about the article not to long ago about someone “dumping” on land which they didn’t own. 

      Mrs. Quimby owns the property and she can allow or dis allow access. Regardless if she is a native or not. 

      My family owns property with logging roads on it. Time after time after time we have found debris and the roads tore up by someone who thought they could drink a few beers and go “mudding” on land that wasn’t theirs. People often do not stay on marked trails and tear up newly planted trees. 

      I am all for hunting, snowmobiling, ATV use etc But the unfortunate situation is most people think the world is their trash can. 

      • Anonymous

        Can you blame everyone for what a few do. Apparently she does. It is because she is not getting her way she blocks access (yes that is my opinion and a lot of others) let her pay  here true taxes then, istead of sneaking around the tree growth tax

        • Guest

          Ridiculous comment.

          • Anonymous

            You mean she shouldn’t pay her fair share, I thought the democrats wanted the rich to pay more. I guess she is the exclusion.

        • Anonymous

          How is she “sneaking around” the tree growth tax exemption when most of the property has been logged within the last few years? Did Poliquin ever do any logging on his property?

          • Anonymous

            She claims tree growth does not she? Like liberals are saying, are you changing the subject.

  • Anonymous

    Philanthropist????

     Only if you adhere to her vision of a national park in the Katahdin region, or are part of the “arts” crowd down in Portland Massachusetts.

  • Anonymous

    Can you really blame her for wanting to gate her property! It is hers@google-210ae71ec20da7a150c2c2d249fd9e9c:disqus  Regardless of where she came from she bought the land. My family owns  property with old Logging Roads on it and I can not tell you how many times we have traveled the Roads and discovered trash and debris from people who access our property! I am all for recreational use of land!!! Unfortunately most people do not respect the land owner anymore. They tear up the trails and leave debris from camping etc. If people really want to have access to the land and use lots of time and effort to try to get access to private land from someone who has made and effort to stop the abuse of their land, which is within their rights. How about being pro active one day and get your snowmobile club ATV club hunting club etc out and take care of the trails and organize clean up days. My motto is “leave it better than it was when you arrived”.

    • Anonymous

      Then she should leave.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe you should leave.

        • Anonymous

          She’s the interloper, as with  other eco-extremist

          • Anonymous

            So no one but you and your friends should be allowed to own land in Maine, is that it?

          • Anonymous

            no, the fact is  anyone can. I think  with all large landowners their should be a balance. She and others get a lot of money from through the tree growth tax, along with other breaks from the state. I believe in conservation, I just do not happen to believe in blocking everything off.

          • Guest

            You have zero respect for private property rights according to your posts.

          • Anonymous

            Let her pay her taxes then, rather than getting around them.

          • Anonymous

             Then buy it, Brucefl56, and open it up to everyone.  Then, you can go in and clean the trash.

          • Anonymous

            trash is used more as an excuse than a reason.

          • Anonymous

            there is no such thing as an eco-extremist.

          • Anonymous

            There is such a thing as going to far.
            Just for curiosity I searched the word. It seems to be used quite aa lot for not being “such a thing”

      • Anonymous

        Leave?  Why?  Because as a free american citizen she has exercised her rights as a private landowner?  What are you? A communist?

        • Anonymous

          No, Communist dont’ they want to own everything and have you do as they want. Hmm kind of sounds like Quimby.

          • Anonymous

            Sounds like someone needs to revisit 5th grade civics.

          • Anonymous

             Communists TAKE it….Quimby BUYS it.  Hmmmm

          • wrong!
            as noted by another poster, you must have been sleeping through civics class.

    • Anonymous

      Dear euroexpat,
         Thanks for your reply. There is NO question that she has the RIGHT to sequester her land as she chooses. Ideally, though, she would use a some of her ample resources to police the areas for refuse, etc. and do the right thing for those of better manners who use the resources in an exemplary manner. The distinction between choosing a path of concern and compassion and falling behind the facade of legal propriorty  is often best observed by those who choose the former. Ken

    • Guest

       I agree, leave it better than it was when you arrived.  Funny how the people who are upset about this, seem to be the same people that had a problem with her national park idea.  It is almost as though she is damned if she does, and damned if she doesn’t.   It is her land after all, but I guess some people feel they have a right to control what a person can do with their own land, even if it is perfectly legal.  She was willing to give access to everyone by donating the land, to the state, but only encountered resistance. 

    • Guest

      Well like you said the debris is left from camping, maybe a camping club should pick up the trash!  FYI most sled/ATV clubs  do take care of their trails and I have spent many saturdays doing land owner appreciation clean ups.  Generally speaking the source of this garbage is not ATV’s or sleds however.  I dont even have room for a water bottle on my snowmobile so it would be pretty tough to leave anything behind.

    • Yeah, I agree that she’s legally within her right to gate off her land, but, I still don’t like her… But, I will pray for her.

    • Anonymous

      NOT IN MAINE

    • Anonymous

      in your opinion why is plum creek being opposed so much for there developement projects in the greenville area.  its there land shouldn’t they be able to do what they want with it?

  • Anonymous

    wonder what the stumpjumpers are doing tonite!??

  • If I pay the park fee can I pass through the gate?

  • MA-NE.net: QUIMBY’S GATED “NATIONAL PARK”…

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne is doing nothing more than the North Maine Woods, Inc. and the dozen or more large corp0rate landowners have being doing for years – gating off access by motor vehicle to the Northern woods and our great ponds. At least Roxanne doesn’t rob people with gate fees.

    • Anonymous

      Sort of a foolish post Bill.  Gate fees allow us to access the private property on which those roads lie.  It costs money to keep the roads up and pay the taxes.  That is a common sense approach. Roxane does not allow access.  That is very different.

      • Anonymous

        I’m confused. Somehow because this land is owned by her the roads don’t cost money to maintain as well?

        She allows access just not by motor vehicle.

        • Anonymous

          That can be bad for the roads, and very limiting for fire suppression, sometimes one must be careful for what one wishes for …

      • Daryl DeJoy

         Roxanne allows plenty of access. It appears she just doesn’t want motorized vehicles and killing animals on her land and I applaud her for that. Keep Maine wild!

    • Anonymous

      Or if you really want to get to that pond then  you could pay a fee and enjoy

      • Anonymous

        On the contrary if a lake or pond is over 10 acres she can not stop you from accessing it (on foot)

    • Anonymous

      At least the North Maine Woods lets you on their land !

      • Anonymous

        North Maine Woods Inc. is a organization that manages the recreational use of the privately owned land owned by logging/woods companies, North Maine Woods does not own any land. The fees they collect helps to maintain the campsite and facilites provided for the campers, and to pay the staff who work at the gatehouses, without North Maine Woods Inc. managing the recreational use of this land most likely the gates would go up to keep people out. Not posting for any imput about Roxane Quimby have my own thoughts on that that I keep to myself.

      • Anonymous

        but bikes are not allowed in the roads int he NW.  they are allowed on Roxanne’s roads.  

        • Anonymous

          with  gates I did not think  anything was allowed on her land.

          • Daryl DeJoy

             Roxanne allows hikers, bikers, birdwatchers and all those who enjoy nature and recreation without destruction of one kind or another, on all her land. It is the best use for the remaining wild lands in Maine…or at least what can still possibly be wild.

          • Anonymous

            Oh, then you have a key to the gate so you can get 25 miles or more down the road to enjoy the immense beauty of nature. Yea right

          • Daryl DeJoy

             No, you don’t need a key to walk around or ride a bike around a gate. Get on a bike or walk and try it sometime. You just can’t drive a gas wasting atv or snowmobile or bring a weapon in to kill animals.

          • Anonymous

            For your information I neither own a snowsled or ATV, for that matter neither a rifle, gun, bow, slingshot. Just because you are a vegatarian does not mean everyone shoudl be. I do bike and I do walk a lot, and hike.  I actually do look at plants, tree’s, animals and nature.

          • Daryl DeJoy

             So why the visceral response to Roxanne Quimby, a landowner who earned her money, bought the land fair and square,and gives the majority of Maine people free access to her land? Just because she doesn’t want polluting vehicles or killing animals on her land should not be reason for anyone to vilify her. I don’t understand your dislike of her. She’s actually a great person and a philanthropist, even if you don’t agree with where her money goes.

          • Anonymous

            As everyone has said she can do what she wants, where she wants, when she wants with her land. It is not simple as a visceral response. My objections are to the insistance of a Federal Park and what goes along with it. Hunting has and is a natural part of life as well as fishing. I happen to enjoy photography, hiking and just viewing God’s majesty. If she was such a philanthropist, she would not be using tax growth to hide from paying her taxes. The state should look into this. In regards to polluting vehicles if that thought  was so, then she would not want it to become a Federal Park. I think more pollution comes from the West then the cars around this area.

          • Anonymous

            that may all be true but we can’t single out Roxanne among all other people receiving tree growth tax status.

          • Anonymous

            As I have stated in other comments, it does not matter who is hiding behind the tree growth tax. Though I think she is one of the bigger abusers (yes I know it is legal for her to do it), does not mean it is right for her or any other that does it. Good way for the State to get more revenue, revise the way the tree growth tax is used.

          • Anonymous

            couple of the other commenters are saying non motorized uses are permitted.

            that would be good for me, there are precious few places to ride a mt bike north of bangor (that i know of)

          • Anonymous

            The new trail around here is suppose to be for mtn bikes also, from my understanding. Though when I am walking, it isn’t a  lot of fun havign mtn bikes buzz by you either.

          • Anonymous

            Fair enough.  I think I know the trail you are talking about.  Also glad to see more land is public around Seboeis. 

          • Anonymous

            And accessible by everyone.

    • Anonymous

      I would rather pay gate fees and use the land than rather not being able to use the land at all oh and you can hunt on North Maine Woods land versus Roxanne who is anti hunting.

    • Anonymous

      Bill, you know we can get to the great ponds whether she and her cronies like it or not.

    • Anonymous

      Isn’t charging a gate fee more reasonable than denying all access?

       Bill, didn’t you do some poaching up there? I know, that was the old days. ;-)

    • Anonymous

      If I could pay a fee to use her roads I would. Disability prevents me from having access to some former fishing areas because of the walking distances. I believe more than a few folks are in the same position.

    •  Sabrina take some of your money and go buy some land. Quit your whining.

    •  Hit the road.

    • Anonymous

      She can only buy land that’s for sale. If you don’t want her to buy it, why don’y you just buy it first?

    • Anonymous

      booo hooo.  this is private property.  if you want to play on it buy it yourself. 

    • cleanearth

      Hey, I know.  When the pulp and paper companies get done destroying millions of acres of the Maine Woods, you can get their land really cheap.  Then you will get to say what happens on your own land.

      I’ll bet you’d want some trees and wildlife, so you wouldn’t let people wantonly run roughshod over all the deeryards and wildlife habitat that might be left.

    • Yup, you’ll only have to move out if you sell your land to her.

  • Anonymous

    She did it because “she can.”  She is on the National Parks board, remember?

  • Anonymous

    I would too after the way you all treated her last time. Of course get a different lawyer to do the research :)

  • Anonymous

    Gates,fences  and Signs , usually  topics of many a  hippie song, odd how things have changed.     It’s funny how  things are only “Bad”  once those in charge have obtained their power , and the things that  got them their power are now also bad.

    • Anonymous

       There’s nothing in the street

      Looks any different to me

      And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye

      And the parting on the left

      Is now the parting on the right

      And the beards have all grown longer overnight
                                                     ~~~~ The Who

  • Anonymous

    not a nice neighbor, I guess. What would they do if there was a fire?

  • Anonymous

    It’s gettin ugly …..

  • Anonymous

    Quimby doesn’t own the land, the land owns her.

  • Anonymous

    The land belongs to her.  You want to use it?  You buy it.  Can’t afford a township?  Convince someone else to buy it.  The State.  Sportsman’s Alliance of Maine.  Start a fund.   Get off your four wheeler and do something, don’t just complain about lack of access.  Find the solution, don’t just dwell on the problem.  I have been enjoying access to paper company lands for years –   hunting, fishing, riding around in my truck drinking beer, but you know what… it’s done, it’s gone, it was not sustainable.  The 100 year leases are gone.  The 100k salaries are gone.  Work with her.

  • Guest

    Quimby, is showing her true nature. The King has no clothes

    • Anonymous

      IT’S = IT IS.

      ITS = Possessive pronoun.

      When you are married to someone for a long time, his or her true illiteracy sticks out its head.

      • Anonymous

        Can the spelling and grammar comments, we don’t care.

        • Anonymous

          Grammar, spelling, and manners ALWAYS count, Billy_Bob. Sorry you weren’t interested in what your probably excellent rural Maine teacher tried to impress upon you in 3rd grade and beyond.  If you don’t care about observing established and widely accepted rules of possibly your native language usage, that certainly does not make those of us who do worthy of your misplaced scorn.

          • Anonymous

            Thanks for the laugh.

          • Anonymous

            You and your sardines are welcome, Billy_Bob. I’m delighted that ignorance and contempt for knowledge have their perqs.

      • Guest

        I am glad you find time to correct my grammar, I have written comments on many articles and hope that you could be my stocker and correct them all.
        I find it more then funny that some people neglect to pay attention to what a comment said because the truth may hurt their feelings.

        • Anonymous

          Davey — I think you mean “stalker” rather than “stocker.”  But “editor” is probably the word that works best.

          Also —

          THEN = temporal
          THAN = comparative.

          If I may ask: How do you expect readers to get beyond your English usage and attend to your actual content, when your English usage is flawed? What else do folks have to judge you on, in this writing computer-mediated communications environment, if they can’t get past your usage to arrive at your content? Just sayin.  You’re never too old to get better in no matter what you do, brah. 

          Good luck with it all.

        • Anonymous

          Usually when they comment on grammar and spelling they have nothing to post to the article or no other retort, really sad..

  • Anonymous

    People should not be given the tree growth tax rate if they do not allow access (unless it is a relatively small tract).  If you want public subsidy then share with the public.  The law needs to be changed.

  • Anonymous

    I’ts only gonna get worse.     It’s private property,   anyone would expect the same rules.  

  • Anonymous

    Ive been trapping live bait from the ponds in that area with my family and also using it as recreational use. We also manage deer and bear hunts which with the economy alone is killing us along with many other guides who rely on that public access.  But I suppose its ok for her to come in with her millions and take my measly small income away from me?  And if you complain about trash or misuse from the hunters and atv riders than apparently you havent hiked enough trails to see the trash they leave.  And in K.I. the Applachain Mountain Club apparently thinks its ok to gate off areas then make hiking trails with equipment wide enough to fit a truck down.  My motto is keep land public and stop taking away the incomes of us Mainers who rely on being in the woods to secure a living for our families.

    • Anonymous

      So you are in favor of all resources – including all land, roads, buildings, etc. – being owned by the State. That makes you a Socialist.

  • Anonymous

    It is her own land and under the law of any state or county, the owner can block passage and egress to or from their land for any reason – except, of course, if that passage is to and from internal residential homes on the property or if emergency services cannot enter for emergency purposes.  I would say snowmobiler’s, hunters, hiker’s, etc., could get injured on this property (trespassing, yes, but assisting injured is delayed), there could be legal tie-ups.  A lot of folks agree here. 

  • The only sure thing is stories about Roxanne Quimby sure do generate a lot of comments!!!

  • Anonymous

    I really enjoy reading the comments about money.  Well if you want to use it buy all the land.  Its funny how the liberals in Maine don’t complain about people buying the land and taking jobs away from people who need it ie anyone in the forest products industry.  I guess ill stop complaining about all the big businesses  coming into areas and buying out stores or taking away so many customers small businesses are forced to close cause that affects me less.  Oh and when heating oil reaches $8 a gallon and you want to switch to wood or a biomass product good luck cause we wont be able to touch any and that price will become equivalent to oil.

    • Anonymous

      In order for her to buy it, the paper company had to sell it. They are the ones with the jobs, and they chose to sell off the land that created the jobs. She didn’t hold a gun to their head and force them to sell the land. She didn’t decide it would be cheaper to lay people off. Nice try.

      • That land in Barnard Twp was sold by Robin Crawford after he pretty much clearcut the entire 30,000 acre piece.  He was done with it, and saw his chance to unload it for the best possible price.  He’s the real culprit here.

    • Daryl DeJoy

       If everyone in Maine had to use oil or biomass to heat their homes the woods of Maine would be gone in no time. Trees are no longer the “renewable resource” they used to be. There’s too many people, using too many tree based products, and with no mind to conservation, energy efficiency or any of those other things we “left wing extremists” consider to be good citizenship….

  • Anonymous

    Liberal.

  • Anonymous

    Ban Roxanne !!

    • Anonymous

      Northernpride, why do you hate freedom?

  • Anonymous

    SAD it makes no sense. You are hurting the wrong people. The people that hunt, fish and spend time on this land because they  love it. My family and friends have enjoyed and respected this land for over 75 years. We know the ridges the swamps the brooks. And no you are not going to walk to them from where that gate is. 

    • Anonymous

       And in the time that you have been hunting, fishing and spending time on this land, did you or anyone else ever get her or any other owner’s permission or was it just assumed to be ok?

      It is her property. She has every right to disallow it, just as I would have every right to disallow it should I own some property people had previously used.

      Good grief. People need to stop pouting because their toy was taken away and get over it.

  • Sorry Quimby, you are still not getting your National Park!

  • Anonymous

    Also with everyone claiming private property its yours to do what you want with ie block access.  How would you feel if the Government came into a wooded area being used by you and claimed eminent domain kicked you off and said you cant use it?  I am starting to feel a little like the American Indians in a small comparison of course, where the land just gets taken away and im told to find some place else to go.

    • Anonymous

      So you want to give your land back to the Indians?

      • Anonymous

        Should we give land back to the indians after killing off thousands and ruining a heritage probably but that is not what i am saying.  What I am saying is that what we did that wasnt right and allowing people with money to do what ever they want with whatever they can purchase isnt right.  If that woman was from a foreign country everyone would think different but because she is not most people jump on the band wagon and say hey shes got it let her do what she wants.  I want to hear everyone say that to Irving Woodlands or Northern Maine Management, or IP, GP, Plum Creek, Linkletter I can go on and on for privately owned companies who purchase land to harvest wood.  Everyone complains then but oh you want to to try and preserve a piece of land that got clear cutted, decimated, and striped of everything without any management of replanting or controlling?  Oh come to Maine the land is cheap and we could care less what the @#$% you want to do with it.  Glad I grew up in this state made me realize how bad it is and how there are so many more enjoyable places to live.

        • Anonymous

          Those are all excellent examples of why strong laws for environmental protection are needed. Unrestricted abuse of the land whether via over logging, poor or nonexistent erosion control, unrestricted strip mining, pollution and the like can and does affect all of us. Simply restricting access only affects those who want to take advantage of someone else’s property. If all those companies wanted to do was restrict access, I’d be hard pressed to find a reason to argue against it. But that is not the case.

    • Anonymous

      That’s not even close to the same comparison Northern.  Eminent domain means the government is taking property that has your name on the deed for their own use.  Since it’s her name on the deed it’s her right to do with it what she wants.  Same as land I’ve hunted on since I was a youngster is now a housing development.  The land owner had the right to do what they did even if I didn’t care for it.  Property rights are property rights.

      • Anonymous

        Outside houston texas government decides it would be a better value for a large group of homes who were owned by poor individuals would better suit the economy by demolition and constructing a highway overpass, california government decides land owned by private individuals better owned by government for transportation of water, US, government decides land owned by individuals for farms could be used for railroad, MILLIONAIRES-decide land in other states not theirs would better suit the public by making a “park”.  If you have money more power to you spend as you will.  But instead of taking things away from me and at the same time crying about other things why not help the people.  Maybe pay taxes on the land you purchased so I dont have to pay more to compensate for you.  Maybe contribute to the people who got laid off from mills, textile plants etc., maybe help the homeless.  When you start kicking off people from land they could use your gonna get people pissed off.  You might live in a town or a city where it might not affect you that much but try having it be your back yard.  Imagine someone bought the house next to you, made a new house 3 times the size and now all you see is that house.  Oh thats not what you want, well guess what?  I dont want some out of state so called millionaire who profits off people buying land surrounding me that I can no longer use for my family business that has been using the land for over 50 years.  If it was an Arab dwelling person who bought the land more people would complain.  But no its this so called liberal that wants to preserve the land so half of Maine decides to jump on the lets preserve the wilderness train.  What most of you dont realize is that by not allowing certain things to happen forests, ecosystems, wildlife and other things can not sustain themselves.  When I cannot hunt the coyote on your land the population increases, hard winters give advantage to the coyote over deer, deer population decreases, you complain why are there no more deer around.  I do not care what a 150 acre land owner does with his property.  I care about 1 owner with an ambition to buy 3.5 million acres, almost the size of rhode island does with their land.  And most people dont care because it is northern maine, no one thinks about the overall life in Northern Maine.  Its about the south and the coast.  Costal people complain wealthy people buy islands to make mansions, wildlife “preservers” complain about lobster fisherman and so on and so on.  if you think in the back of your mind that we cant kill, harvest or use our natural resources and still survive around a fire singing songs and holding hands well then more power to you.  But in the real world thats not the way things work.  I also have a credited bachelors in science degree from the University of Maine so im not just spewing things out my rear to hear myself talk.

        • Anonymous

          So your first two examples fit the qualification of eminent domain but a private individual buying land, even if they want to turn it into a public park at some point still doesn’t qualify as that. Those lands were never public to begin with. Just because the previous owner let you use it doesn’t make it yours. Believe me, I understand your point but to me that still doesn’t make it right. Honestly, I’m not a fan of Quimby’s politics. As a matter of fact from what I’ve read about her I most likely wouldn’t care for her if I met her but just because I don’t like someone doesn’t mean I won’t extend them the same freedoms and opportunities I’d want for myself.
          I know all about sustainability and really don’t like the idea of simply shutting an area down because I think it can lead to more harm than good but it’s not my land to say what takes place. A large portion of Acadia National Park is a huge fire hazard because it’s so full of dead wood because they don’t allow anyone to cut it off to make way for new growth but there’s nothing I can do about it. Would I like to see Quimby open to other view points? Absolutely but she can’t and shouldn’t be forced to listen or implement ideas if she doesn’t want to.
          As for your degree, I have no doubt you understand the basics of ecology but that doesn’t make you a constitutional scholar anymore than my degree in business makes me a expert of the solar system. I do find it comical that in Maine someone buying a huge chunk of land is such a big to do when you can go out west and single owners have thousands of acres of land on their ranches.

        • Lord Whiteman

           That $300,000 Lepage took from us and gave  to Cianbro is in part to line up all the property they will seize to build the Canadian pipeline and cross state potato dumping highway. 

        • Anonymous

          In the real world, that bunk you just spewed about wildlife not sustaining itself and the need for coyote control is… pure bunk. As I’m sure you learned in ecology class, nature, left to its own devices, will achieve a balance between predator and prey. Are human uses incompatible with good ecology? Of course not, but Quimby has made clear her preference to permanently protect her land – and she is entitled to do that whether you like it or not. Please don’t pretend that she or her land benefits from your use. The fact that your family has had something for free for 50 years is irrelevant. Do you honestly believe that the forest products industry landowners are going to continue to allow access over time? That would be delusional. All those guys are doing is waiting… to sell out to suburbia at the highest price as Maine changes. At least Quimby is trying to preserve something for the future. You’ve had your free ride, be grateful, and think hard about where kids in 100 years will get even a small sense of what Maine was. 

  • Anonymous

    surprise, surprise.

  • Anonymous

    “Stupid environmental foolishness”. That’s about the most ignorant remark I’ve seen, and I’ve seen quite a few ignorant remarks. Take a look on Google Earth at Three Mile Pond in Augusta and try to tell me about “environmental foolishness”. That whole pond is as green as a pool table, and every camp on it is next to worthless because people chose to ignore that “stupid environmental foolishness”. Not a fish left in there, they all choked to death on the algae. You want a state full of dead lakes? Keep spreading that attitude around and you’ll get it.

    • Anonymous

      I want a state that is Pro-Business, Pro-Jobs, Pro-Working Mainer .  That is not run amuck full of Welfare Cases, Enviro freaks, Liberal Special Interest and Former Liberal  Politicians all of which are still living off taxpayer dollars dictating their radical business killing agenda upon us.  I want what we currently have now folks like LePage starting to repeal all of this garbage that has been going on for more than 40 years.  Start to have fiscal sanity and bring some common sense to Augusta which has been lacking under inept Liberal Democrats who think Socialism and Eco-Friendly Paradise which only a few will be the ones seeing benefits.  Just like is going on in Washington with Emperor Nobama.  If we go back with Democrats Maine is doomed the working person will be screwed again with massive tax hikes to pay for the ones who buy the votes of Democrats.  That is what I and other Mainers want  a Pro-Business, Pro-Jobs,  Prosperous, Low Tax, Pro Freedom State.

      • Anonymous

        You forgot commie pinkos.

      • Anonymous

        So somehow you think that former conservative politicians are NOT living off taxpayer dollars? 

        Please outline this “radical business killing agenda”. I seem to have missed the memo on that one. And please explain how protecting natural resources like lakes, rivers, fish and deer is a bad thing. I can’t quite figure that one out.

        And while you’re at it you might explain to your friends who are steamed at Quimby for gating off her PRIVATE land exactly what Socialism is.

      • Anonymous

        Hey DC got some really really bad news for you. After Nov 6th the dems will be back in control. As a matter of fact they will probably control both houses of the legislature and have enough votes to over turn vetos. Oh and on that SSM thingee, thats going to win as well. 

      • Well, I guess if you live in Florida and are related to the “governor,” you’d find a job in Maine in a hurry (but paid for by “taxpayer dollars” — but hey, it’s important to keep the ruling family well fed)!  That’s about as “pro-job” as it’s going to get around here as long as LePage takes up space in Augusta. Pro-job for LePage family members — for ordinary Mainers not related to Paul LePage, not so much.

      • Anonymous

        Wow, you’re going to have a tough time of it come November aren’t you.

      • Anonymous

        you are pro business and pro job and support lepage? please tell me about his business expansion plan and job creation; I surely have missed it. he is too busy trying to penalize the poorest in this state while reducing taxes for the wealthiest.

      • Anonymous

        Pro-Business and Pro-Working Mainer are incompatible goals as business does better when workers’ rights are trampled and workers do better when business’ rights are stomped.   A shining example of the deep dissonance in the awareness of so many.  Maybe that dissonance is the fuel for the anger that all “true-believers” seem to have.  

      • Guest

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      • Anonymous

        Pauli!  Is that you?

      • anonme 527

        “Pro-Business, Pro-Jobs,  Prosperous, Low Tax, Pro Freedom State”
         All of these things are possible, just move to Eastern Massachusetts! Of course, you can say goodbye to outdoor sports, lite traffic, free parking, low crime and a lack of pollution but then, you can always blast up i-95 and buy a place on the coast.
        Because afterall, (don’t forget)…Maine is “Open for Business”.
        The lack of prosperity in Maine is due to long term cyclical poverty and the logistics of geography, not the dominance of any given political party. Quimbys former business isn’t the first to part ways with Maine for warmer locations. It’s been going on for about one hundred and fifty years. Take a trip to Lewiston, Biddeford, Wells or Sanford. Look at the factory ruins and the poorly planned development. Maine doesn’t need more unchecked growth and development any nore than it needs a bunch of flag-waving B*** S***.
        What Maine really…I mean REALLY needs is a well coordinated plan for what this place will be in five, ten, twenty, fifty and hundred years from now and if Mainers don’t decide soon, someone else will.

  • Anonymous

     She hasn’t destroyed the quality of my life in any way.  I use her products and like them.  I support her efforts to preserve land and I appreciate the gift she has offered to us.  You need to remember that most people don’t think like you do DarkCat33.  Your opinion is yours alone.

    • Anonymous

      they aren’t her products any more.  She sold Burts Bees to Clorox in 2008 for almost a billion dollars.

      • Anonymous

        And everyone knows how Clorox cares for the environment !

    • Anonymous

      She has destroyed the quality of lives of Mainers for many many years.  She has come in and tried to dictate to people that its her way or no way at all.  She has personally attacked Mainers for not agreeing to her park. Including her infamous tirade that was posted on here a few months ago.  She has tried to bully people into supporting her demands but Mainers haven’t fallen for it.  She has taken away land that could be used to help the mills in Millinocket and East Millinocket and for loggers in Maine.  I would not use her products if someone even paid me to use them.  I strongly disagree , your wrong most people don’t support your views and your views on this park.  I think Mainers spoke loud and clear in 2010 elections and the past referendum elections that had democrat proposals on different issues when the Democrats Agenda got rejected every single time.  The fact is Maine is moving to the right or to the Independent way doing of things and Liberals can’t handle that. 

      • Anonymous

        I’ll be interested to see just how far to the right Maine has moved after the next election.

        • Anonymous

          FAR FAR RIGHT GOOD GOV

      • Anonymous

        Do you actually believe half the garbage you post?

        • Guest

           Sadly,  he does.  He has said the same thing so many times that he now believes it to be fact.  Now she has apparently “taken” the land from the Millinocket paper mills….LOL…when it was sold to her by Timber companies in the first place.  For some reason he feels the need to turn every discussion, no matter how unrelated, into a diatribe against Liberals.

        • Anonymous

          It’s simple-minded “Liberals are evil” ranting.  The kind that makes reason irrelevant and locks the iron gates of the mind.  It also encourages violence and I’m disappointed that BDN is letting it stand.

          Any such claims against LePage, in here, would be immediately blocked out.

          • Daryl DeJoy

             The threats on here serve a purpose, since once they start a fire on Roxanne’s land there will be a “paper trail”, even if it is an electronic one.

      • Anonymous

        I’m not even sure you can get away with saying that “she’s destroyed the quality of life for many Mainer’s”.  Aside from being melodramatic, it’s still too general.  If you must, you could probably say “she’s destroyed my quality of life” or the quality of live of “some Mainer’s that I know”, if you were absolutely certain that their lives were actually destroyed, which seems more hysterical than likely.

        • It appears that, for some, “quality of life” means the freedom to tear up other jpeople’s land with 4-wheelers without permission, to throw beer bottles and cigarette butts everywhere without concern, to kill animals and plants whenever and wherever they feel like it, and to have the whole concept of “private property” thrown in the dustbin. In effect, then, these whiners are actually socialists!

      • cleanearth

        I wonder what you’d do differently if you were responsible for a chunk of the Maine Woods.  I’ll bet you wouldn’t allow it to be destroyed by the FROM AWAY pulp and paper mills………I’ll bet you’d want to keep deer yards and enough woods for all the wildlife that live there.  I doubt you’d be as irresponsible as the pulp and paper mills with all their careless destruction of the woods have been for over 100 years……at least they used to re-plant.  None of that now, not for about 30 years. 

        I think you’re just really envious which is making you angry – as seems to be the case with others –  that it’s, OMG, a Woman (!!) with lots of money who was born SOMEWHERE ELSE who now owns a significant amount of land in Maine. 

        If people–local or from away–didn’t fight to keep at least some of our woods intact, Maine would be one big clearcut, the pulp and paper mills would be long gone (they’re ALL from away), and we’d be left with Black Flies and not much else.

        • Anonymous

          See how you like wiping your butt with plastic. Quit crying-This is Maine and we grow trees, just like Nebraska grows corn. It’s harvested and the cycle is started again. Where do you people come from? 

          • cleanearth

            If you are really a Maine Guide, you know very well the woods are being harvested faster than they can renew.  It takes many decades for trees to grow to harvestable size again and, since the pulp/paper corporations aren’t replanting anymore (like they used to 30 years ago), it will take longer than it used to.

            Also, the new machines take everything – they chip it all up, the entire tree, limbs and all so there’s nothing left to rot and make food for the new trees.

            The Black Forest of Germany is dying because they kept taking, taking, taking for hundreds of years and not leaving anything to rot to provide food for new growth.  That’s what the paper corporations are doing – – leaving us with nothing.

            Quimby is doing what she wants with her own land – – just like the paper/pulp corporations do. 

            At least the trees from her land aren’t chipped up and shipped to China and Eueope like the pulp companies do.   Sustainable harvesting can be done decently, but that’s not what most do. 

            You know this.  Everything isn’t about money.  Without our woods and waters, we’re all gone.    Use your good sense, man.

          • Anonymous

            I fly this country on a regular basis and I am here to tell you that we would have to work allot harder to clear the land than you think. It is huge and there are millions and millions of trees in the North woods of Maine. That is a place where most folks have never been or seen. Take a scenic flight sometime.

          • cleanearth

            I have flown commercial Augusta to Presque Isle so I do know what it looks like. 

            Perhaps you aren’t aware – no big deal has been made of it – but the Port of Eastport has built a huge storage area and deals have been made with Asians and Europeans so that the Maine Woods is being chipped and shipped to burn for heat in Europe, and smashed-up trees made into pulp is being shipped to Asia and Europe to be made into products they’ll sell back to us.

            Even the money-hungry Eastport port people – who see firsthand what’s happening – have expressed concern over the fact that there are only so many trees, and when the harvestable trees are gone, well, that’s it, Folks.

            I think the needs of Maine people should be met first before we ship our resources abroad with the profits from chipping and shipping the Maine Woods going out of state and out of country – – the pulp mill in Baileyville is owned by the Chinese.

          • Tom Brown III

             u mean like the tons of money we put into maine care needs? which taxes and tariffs from exported pulp and wood products helps fund? or the thousands of jobs start to finished revolving around the lumber industry in maine?

            the mill in baileyville is owned by domtar which is MASSIVE corporation. I am sure they have asian investors. They are headquartered in Montreal QC. But to say “its owned by the chinese” is a grossly miscalculated statement and shows us your level of knowledge on the discussion.

            I dont think 1maineguide was talking about taking a commercial flight. He means a bush plane up over the allagash. So deep in the bush your pretty sure if you go down you wont be found. Those places exist in maine still.

          • anonme 527

             http://bangordailynews.com/2010/09/30/business/domtar-pulp-plant-sold-to-hong-kong-investors/

            …some truth there…

            If we are going to engage in some forestry debate, I would like to applaud the groups of lumber companies who have put the time, effort and thought in to becoming FSC Certified despite the fact the the LePage administration is slowly and quietly removing Maine’s environmental initiatives…such as their attempt to equalize a group of patently unequal forestry certifications in the construction marketplace and the elimination of the waste and recycling management department of the State Planning Office.
            New environmental practices are changing environment AND business for the better…elsewhere…while Maine remains, collectively, in the dark ages. Is one of the nation’s oldest states really so desperate to remain “different” that we will do it at the cost of being mired in our own ignorance?
            We really can be rural, successful in business, and a great place to enjoy the outdoors all at once, but not if we open the floodgates to unregulated industry and development, poorly planned tourism enticement, and (god help us) more dead-end seasonal  jobs.
            Oh, and don’t forget…owning land does not  in fact, allow one to do whatever they want their land, as some like to suggest. Land ownership comes with responsibility to our state community standards, assuming that they continue to exist. Too often, those standards are seen as limitations to be despised, where they are really meant to protect the greater landscape from general idiocy and the I-can-do-whatever-I-want-with-my-property mentality. Do you really want your favorite lake ruined so that you or your neighbor can have two acres of Fenway-Park-Worthy-Grass? Isn’t that what “people from away” would do back in the suburbs of wherever? Would you want to be sued because a drunk person on a snowmobile or in a vehicle crashed and you hadn’t posted no-trespass signs because you wanted people to enjoy your land?
            …and why is it that the Federal government is building a 200 million dollar border crossing in Northern Maine and no one blinks, but federal intervention to build a state park for all to enjoy is the crime of the century?
            “No one would go there because the coast is better?” Who do you think owned all that coast line before it was gated? Answer: Mainers who sold in exchange for some financial security. Maine wilderness (among a few others) is the envy of our nation and some of the last untouched wilderness in the U.S. while the coast has been, for the most part, bought up and closed off by wealthy visitors, its coastal parks are hugely popular, as some of the few unspoiled places where a non-wealthy person can enjoy the ocean.
            Now, we have a gigantically wealthy individual who wants to do a positive thing for the future of our state and she is held in contempt by the very people who might sell that land for industrial use and the all-too-overrated cause of “progress” in exchange for just enough regulation to allow for outdoor sports as long as the mega-corporation that owns it don’t change their minds and lobby for less stringent regulation. Take a long look and try to see the forest through the trees, people…you’re getting sucker-punched.
                    

          • Daryl DeJoy

             In short, “There are none so blind as those who will not see”……

          • Anonymous

            Appreciate your understanding. A flight in any small plane over the state will change minds, and you do not have to go deep into the Allagash, just North of Jackman, Greenville, Rockwood, Millonocket, ect. From there North, it’s all green. 

          • Anonymous

            We have been sending wood products to China for years. Try to find American made furniture in any store of your choosing. We did just that, and when we did find American made, the plywood was stamped made in Viet Nam. Look around-This is nothing new, China owns the US. When people understand and grasp this concept, maybe they will elect a change. As Americans, we expect instant gratification, and the Chinese will provide it, because they still have the fire in their belly, something that went out here long ago, unfortunately. History teaches, but we fail to learn! 

          • Anonymous

            NOT IN MAINE

          • Daryl DeJoy

             Most of the people who hate Roxanne Quimby don’t understand that the only real hope we have of not having Maine become another suburban wonderland in the near future is to protect and preserve what remaining wilds we have left in Maine, even if they have been seriously degraded by those who Roxanne buys the land from. At least she wants to let it go back to its former glory,for the most part.

          • Anonymous

            nebraska’s corn is heavily subsidized by the federal government…socialism at its best!

          • Daryl DeJoy

             80% of the paper in China is tree free, including the toilet paper. The choice isn’t only tree paper or  plastic…..the bumper sticker you got this idea from is one of the most ignorant around, only falling slightly behind the Ban Roxanne bumper stickers….and I know, I know, I can go to China if I want tree free paper…..the same old tired cliches from the  same old stubborn dinosaurs….

          • Anonymous

            OK, Pal, Maine makes newsprint, magazine glossy paper and TOILET paper from the trees here  in Maine. You’re not from Maine, obviously, or you would not be spewing garbage like you post. Who gives a rats butt what the Chinese use to wipe their behinds with. 
            Maybe you should move there if you think their “paper” is better than ours. And by the way, I’ve lived and worked in the city(your world) and I would much prefer to be in the woods so that I don’t have to interact with ignorant people like yourself. Good Luck with the park thing-Your Messiah is a one shot wonder and the next President will be a bit more conservative with the spending of our dollars. Hope you enjoy Bejing!

        • Anonymous

          The big land owners will not settle for taking all the trees. Soon after they clear cut the economy with there clear-cutting of the forest; they will start scraping the earth with their pit mines. You will see the same traditional use people defending these same forest industry land owners. This is when they will defend the land owners. “It is their land they can do what ever they want with it”.

      • Anonymous

         61% of the people of Maine voted for a more liberal person, so your wrong about Maine Moving to the right.

      • Anonymous

        You are actually a liberal socialist yourself darkcat.  You are redistributing private property to suit yourself.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with other posters. I am a republican and feel that she can do whatever she wishes with her property. She worked hard for the money to pay for it. Some Mainers disagree with her, that is their right. Some agree with her, that as well is their right. I am not sure why politics play a role in this discussion. “She has taken away land”, really? Another way to put that would be,”She purchased land”It was for sale when she got it, why didn’t you purchase it and do with it what you wish? I bet you would get really angry if you did own it and others attempted to dictate how/what you did with it, I know I would! Just because I belong to a political party does not put me in lockstep with someone’s idea of how I should think. That is what makes this country great. As stated, your ideas lean towards socialist doctrine. 

        • Mary Stubbs

          As a fellow Republican, I agree with you! She bought it, she is free to do what she wants with it!

          • Tom Brown III

            As republicans (true republicans, not GW neo-cons) we should be the vanguard for personal freedom. Damn straight it is her land. She paid for it and can choose to do what she wants with it. Including limiting or outright forbidding public use.

            However, as a central maine resident it is disappointing to see people who arent using their own land and are from away closing it to people who have used it for many years. I run into this all the time when I go up to Dover Foxcroft where I grew up hunting and fishing. So much land has become posted. It is understandable with the mentality of people today the lack of respect for things. We put up “access by permission only” which, I feel is a good compromise in many cases.

            Also, as soon as Quimby starts in with the politics of a national park, interfering with public policy then we as republicans must be the vanguard against intrusive government policy!

            Which is the catch 22 of Quimby’s my way or the highway thinking. She has hit several roadblocks recently concerning her park plans and now we will see the repercussions of it. As Central Maine public land users we are going to be forced to accept a national park to access the land (and we wont be able to enjoy it like we had before) OR we will have to face the reality she will just lock it up and throw away the key.

          • Roxanne’s land is NOT POSTED.  

          • Tom Brown III

             like I said limit/restrict/ban public use w/e. She is restricting her land to public use and that is her right.

        • Anonymous

          The only reason why she bought the land is because she is a tree hugging liberal.  Her intention is to give it to the Govt, so it can be preserved and she will not have to pay the property taxes on it.  We, Joe taxpayer will be stuck footing the bill.

      • Guest

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        • Anonymous

          I believe that you are misguided in your thoughts. I feel like LePage is doing what has been needed to be done since Angus Kink started running up the tab in a big way. You really want Mr. Wind Power(BLOWHARD) in a position of power! For him it’s all self serving.

      • Anonymous

        Let’s see, dictated my way or no way, yep LePage has that one, personally attacked Mainers, yep LePage has that one, infamous tirates, yep LePage has that one covered, bully people into supporting demands, again LePage is all over that, are you sure Ms. Quimby is the person you are posting about?

      • Anonymous

        “She has destroyed the quality of lives of Mainers for many many years.”  Please explain… 

      • Anonymous

        “She has taken away land that could be used to help the mills in Millinocket and East Millinocket and for loggers in Maine”… Really?  If I remember correctly it was a logging company that sold her the land

      • Anonymous

        I’ve been a republican for as long as I can remember and I find your arguments abhorhent, ridiculous, and downright childish.  It’s her land.  She has the right to free speach.  If she truly threatend people then she would be in jail or court at a minimum. I don’t support the national park but I do support landowners rights and individuals rights and freedoms.  It’s people like you with your half-baked thoughts and ideas that give good, honest, hard working, maine conservatives a bad name.  Educate yourself before you post so that you don’t come across like a socialist or communist.

      • Anonymous

        Destroyed your life! not wildlife nor nature.

    • Anonymous

      As are yours.

    • Anonymous

      Not really.

    • Anonymous

      You mean you use the products from the company she moved to NC in 1994 and was bought out by the giant corporation Corox in 2007? I am sure Clorox appreciates the support.

    • Anonymous

      You mean her products that she had moved to the Carolinas so she wouldn’t have to pay the stiff taxes and anti-business climate of Maine? Now she comes back to throw around her money. BTW I think this lady should do what she wants with her land and so should Plum Creek!

      • Anonymous

        RIGHT ON RIGHT ON

    • Anonymous

      You are very wrong Bangorian with your Liberal views. I question that you are even a Mainer! You speak like a transplant from Massachussettes. I have followed your comments and you do not represent most REAL Maine attudes or traditional beliefs.

      • Anonymous

        What are REAL Maine values….according to….?

    • Anonymous

       Finally, something I can agree with from this poster.

  • Anonymous

    Oh and for all of you who like “parks” to view the great outdoors in its original form, tell me how tenting at a campground ie Baxter State Park, seeing over 20 people on a trail, feces piles beside the trail with manufactured toilet paper, cabins for park rangers, campers, and makeshift shelters for sleeping is the great outdoors in its natural state?  I support all private land owners who promote access by permission only, I am disgusted by people who ban their land from access to certain users but allow the people they find harmless access.  Just cause i am a hunter and all around outdoors enthusiast and not a hiker or nature viewer ive been segregated and denied use.  Also as she puts her acres into tree growth shes getting away with owning thousands of acres and barely paying taxes.  Hopefully everyone doesn’t mind paying more taxes for the road upkeep to get to her gated land and your property taxes increase as well. 

    • Daryl DeJoy

       Its not  the most natural state possible, but its a heck of a lot better than deforested acreage and extirpated wildlife, by a long shot!

  •  I like how the redneck types respond when people want to secure there own land. grrr shes destroying quality of life and shes a messiah like obama. grrr lets put a highway through her land. grr now whos land can i drive my atv on. Now lets grumble about taxes

  • Anonymous

    Sadly most mainers are rather uninformed when it come to the use of private lands.  For hundreds of years private landowners have willingly opened their lands to the public with only the simple request for respect for the land.   What most mainers don’t realize is that this is a gift from the private landowners, not a right.  I ask that those who do not understand the consequences of their actions take a good look around at other states in our country and see if this “use” is the exception rather than the “rule”.  I say to those espousing their hatred for a private land owner to have some respect for her decisions.  After all it is America and it is her land.  Presently you do not see no tresspassing signs and are free to use her lands with the rules that she has set forth.  Someday, if you continue to thumb your noses at her generosity she may just lock them all up.

  • Anonymous

    good.  Why should she let a bunch of hicks that hate her use her land?

  • Anonymous

    What will happen if there a fire on here land an they can’t get thru the rocks an  trenches  ??

    • Anonymous

      Or if posters actually bothered to spellcheck their drivel prior to posting?

    • Lord Whiteman

      Is that a threat?

  • Anonymous

    I could care less about the park. But claiming that protecting the environment is somehow wrong is incredibly ignorant and short-sighted. 

    This lady bought some land, and she has every right to gate it off if she wants. It’s no different than putting a fence around your yard. If people wanted to maintain public access, they should have pooled their money and bought the land, or else bought permanent easements from the previous owner. 

    • protecting the evironment is a great idea.. it’s the methods and the extremes that libs usually take.. it’s an all or nothing proposition… people do need to ” leave it better than they found it” on that there is no argument…finding a way to do that is where the rub is.

  • Anonymous

    It’s Ms. Quimby’s land. She can do what she wishes with it. I don’t see any argument to the contrary here that carries any weight.  Sorry, you long-time hunters and snowmobilers, but she owns it. Congratulations to her for having become wealthy with her own ingenuity and business acumen. If she chooses to invest it in Maine real estate, how does that make her evil? If I had loads of jingle, I’d love to invest it in Maine real estate and damned if I would let trespassers kill the animals on or ruin the biota of my property.  And likely neither would you. Move on and reminisce.

  • Downeasta

    Rich does not make you responsible.

  • Anonymous

    She has every right to be a bad person. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see any “no trespassing”  or “no hunting” signs. I am in absolutely no way in support of this women. She irritates me.  But I will say its nice to have some gated roads to walk,   for us who prefer to hunt birds with dogs, and not trucks.

  • Anonymous

    Want an instant socialist?  Tell a republican they can’t ride an ATV or hunt on your land.   

    • Anonymous

      Hey, if you guys have your way she’ll have to sell her freekin land to pay her taxes. She’s a 1%er!   LMAO! 

    • Anonymous

      Socialism has actually proved to work in such western countries as Sweden, Norway, Finland and the funny thing is? They all have better ratings in every which category you could choose around human life, economy, etc etc.

  • ask

    its her land she owns it she can do what she wants with it doesent matter what party she is she is well within her rights do i agree with her no i dont but thats the way it is win the lottery and buy the land from her then you can have all the headaches that go along with it 

  • Quimby is everything that all of us,”out of staters” left those big cities for. Her grandiose idea that she is saving the world by buying huge chunks of our state and keeping us out is in vain. Her first big mistake was arresting some local folks who were picking fiddle heads, then the infamous eviction of the 90 year old woman from her leased cabin. The problem with Quimby is that she failed to recognize who the real “stewards of the land” were. These folks who were arrested and evicted, would have done all the policing and would have protected the land they loved for free. Quimby brings with her, to our beautiful state, all the bad qualities that other states are plagued with. I never thought I would hear myself saying this but, Roxanne, go home!!!!

  • Anonymous

    If she cared about Maine, she would push for a State Park instead of a National Park.

  • Anonymous

    If you think your land is misused now by the public, wait in till you allow no access at all.  That drives a lot of people to ruin your land due to no access and the fight against.  My family in all owns over 400 acres in different parcels.  We allow access by permission only not a complete black out, and we have no trouble what so ever.  

  • Anonymous

    The irony of this issue isn’t about the gates. Its about how to speak to the public. When the very, very wealthy John Malone of Liberty Media bought all of that property in Northwestern Maine, he was (was he advised?) careful to say he wanted to maintain the property in the “traditional manner” and all the “real” sportsmen bought the news hook, line, and sinker.  Yet easy access is nearly impossible and extremely far from populated areas.  On the other hand, Quinby’s  property is relatively close to I-95 and near the greater Bangor populated area where many  weekender “real Mainers” reside. 

    That said, I think what really bothers the self styled “real Mainers” is simply that they aren’t used to a woman flipping them the proverbial bird. 

  • Anonymous

    The bottom line is that, unless proved otherwise, it is her land & no matter who likes or doesn’t  like it, does not matter- she can do what she wants with it. Sad but true.

  • Where is your land? A bunch of us want to get on it with our ATVs — and with snowmobiles this winter. It’s really nice (but totally unexpected) that a “republican” is now against the whole concept of private property! I assume you’re now going to go to Augusta to make the case for 100% public access to all land in Maine –? But who’s going to pay for all the new expenses this will incur (trash removal, liability for injury, damage to wildlife and plants, etc etc)?

    Don’t you think it’s a bit “socialist” to mandate that everybody now must share their land with whoever wants to do whatever they want to do on it, without permission of any kind? Or did I miss something somewhere? Is the concept of “private ownership” now outdated?

  • Anonymous

    It’s her land to do with as she pleases and the law allows,  but if it isn’t working forest any more, she should be taxed at full value,  not Tree Growth rates.

  • Anonymous

    Although I think that access to woodlands for hunting and fishing should not be limited I think darkcat33 has had a little to much to drink.

  • Anonymous

    It’s her land, period. When we bought our place, we had an opportunity to buy additional acres adjoining it and did so. It is posted. Trespassers will be prosecuted. The key words are Land Owner.

  • Anonymous

    Are you sure about that. I think that going past a locked gate is called tresspassing and Roxanne would win in court.

  • Anonymous

    Going past a locked gate is trespassing and in court Roxanne would win. You need written landowner permission to recreate on private property, with or without gates !

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a fan of gates, but I’ll play the devil’s advocate here–it can be high graded, it can be clearcut, it can be strip cut straight to junk, they can do all three in succession, and not a peep. But make you people park your vehicles and walk, and do you ever whine! 

    It says here the roads that go someplace anybody else owns are open. All I see are some old roads put to bed, just like a thousand others. I don’t see any signs, and can’t find any references online, besides one saying she hasn’t–has she banned hunting on these lands, or just road hunting? 

  • Anonymous

    If I were Roxanne, I’d pray for rain. Lot’s of rain.

    • Lord Whiteman

      Is that a threat?  I own land in Maine, will you try to burn my trees if I post my property?

      • Anonymous

        He didn’t threaten anyone….You are assuming.

        • Lord Whiteman

            It doesn’t  take much imagination to see the implied threat to commit arson.

          • Daryl DeJoy

             Anyone can see the veiled threats and bullying here. Calling Roxanne a bully is ridiculous. These threats (fire, pulling down gates,etc), on the other hand, are coming from little men who have an overblown sense of entitlement and a love of exploiting nature. They objectify anyone or anything who thinks, acts or looks differently from they and their buddies….

          • Lord Whiteman

             I bet the only “nature” they care about comes in a little brown jug.

  • Anonymous

     The land belongs to her.  You want to use it?  You buy it.  Can’t afford
    a township?  Convince someone else to buy it.  The State.  Sportsman’s
    Alliance of Maine.  Start a fund.   Get off your four wheeler and do
    something, don’t just complain about lack of access.  Find the solution,
    don’t just dwell on the problem.  I have been enjoying access to paper
    company lands for years –   hunting, fishing, riding around in my truck
    drinking beer, but you know what… it’s done, it’s gone, it was not
    sustainable.  The 100 year leases are gone.  The 100k salaries are
    gone.  Work with her.

  • Guest

     …and she may very well be doing just that, I’m not sure. Doesn’t really matter though because it IS her land so she can. You people ( locals) need to get over it- your free range over her land is over.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t all of you who are castigating Ms. Quimby join together and start purchasing your own land base to do with as you chose? There are still plenty of large parcels in similar regions of Maine, and with the right offer, I’m sure current owners would entertain selling them. Once yours, you can invite up all the folks who desecrate the land with trash and tear it up with four wheelers. It could become a counter-National Park for those who oppose the rules and regulations in a State or National Park, that are  in place to ensure the least detrimental impact from high human density land use. 

    • Daryl DeJoy

       They could call it “Wasteland”!

  • Anonymous

    I guess you would consider me a liberal, though I don’t.I don’t support a national park in this area at all, but I see her use some of the same tactics that LePage uses, bribery ,coersion, and even bullying to get her way!

  • Anonymous

    We don’t need her land, nor do we need the underlying agenda behind her generosity, i;e RESTORE, and Nature Conservancy.

  • Daryl DeJoy

    I’m a fan of Roxanne! Keep Maine wild!

  • The gist of the whole story was in the last paragraph.  Do you people not see what she is trying to shove down Mainers throats.   She is a bully!!!

    “Smith said he believes that the land newly gated would be given to the
    state for multiuse trails and motorized recreational under Quimby’s
    apparently dormant plan to create a national park near Baxter State
    Park. “

  • Hey …weld the gates shut and let her keep the hell on her side of the fence and off everywhere else…..

  • Anonymous

    While it is Ms Quimby’s right to gate her property, it is also the right of everyone here to disagree with her politics. I think Ms Quimby should pick up her marbles, gate her property, stop trying to shove her park down our throats and go home.

  • Anonymous

    I have always been a believer in landowner rights.  The same protection which allows Roxanne to gate her own property should also allow Plum Creek to develop around Moosehead Lake.  If Roxanne wants to create a Quimby Recreational Area, go for it.  

    • Daryl DeJoy

       Quimby=preservation of Maine
      Plum Creek=rape of Maine
      That’s the difference.

      • Anonymous

         Much too subjective and emotional a response, I believe.  Does every new home  built anywhere rape fields or forests?

  • Anonymous

    People can be as snotty as they want but they shouldn’t be subsidized by everyone else if they are.
    I have a small parcel and I allow hunting but it is limited.  I allow 4 wheelers but no abuse.  I allow hiking and picnicking and if you leave your trash behind you, not everyone will be banned.  If my place was larger there would be fewer rules. 
    You can be a good neighbor or not but don’t ask me to help you financially if you aren’t.

  • You admit to believing that concern for the environment is “foolishness,” yet you’re mad because someone denies you access to their land.
    That’s like the little kid who whines that Dad won’t let him use his workbench and tools anymore because he (the little kid) scattered the tools all over the place, left half of them outside, and totally trashed the workbench.
    Your ignorance would be funny if it weren’t so tragic.

  • Anonymous

    Miss Quimby:  We would very much appreciate access to your beautiful property, at our own risk, of course…!!!  Thank You…

  • Anonymous

    Although I do not agree with Roxanne about the creation of a National Park  I do agree with her right as a private land owner to do as she wants on her land as long as it is within the law. How would any of you that jump on the Bash Roxanne bandwagon would want someone else telling you what to do with your land after all they do not maintain it, pay the taxes and make the improvements etc. so what gives them the right?

  • Anonymous

    I can’t seem to figure out why so many people in Northern Maine have such a problem with private ownership of land.  She bought it and is paying the taxes on it.  That gives her the right to do with it as she pleases.  Try using Irving land like you are the owner and see how far you get.  There is no differance!

    • Guest

      I use Katahdin Timberlands all the time, but the stink is not with the old girl fencing off her property, its quimby land we object to— as well as loathing her…!

      She can gate it off for all I care; it just makes harder to put out any fires on her land,,,, that and finding anyone that is willing to do it.. :-)

  • Anonymous

    Find some new news BDN…This is old hat ..Its her property and if she wants to gate it -put a fort around it -or sell it to China -that’s her right. The same rights that all you other property owners have whether your residents or not- makes no diff. Get over it

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t it be a hoot if the roads were confiscated by eminent domain?

    • Anonymous

      Dream on John.  Why, you want to use her land for free?  Maybe you want to pay for the road maintenance instead when the users and abusers tear up her roads everyday with their trucks, 4 wheelers and Snowmobiles.

  • If LePage bought and gated the land, many of you would be irate. But because Quimby bought it and gated it, it’s ok. 

    • Guest

      actually no, we already hate quimby

    • Anonymous

      LePage bought and gated his Florida land.

    • Lord Whiteman

      Lepage keeps all  his property in his wife’s name for some reason.;)

      • Anonymous

        Smart man that is why.

        • Lord Whiteman

          If by smart you mean crooked.

  • Its Her Land… I agree.. She has every right to gate it off. I agree with land for recreational use..WITH the permission of the land owner.. however there lays the problem…the majority of people DO NOT RESPECT THE LAND OWNER  and the LAND OWNERS  right to protect their land from destruction caused by ATVs, etc. We own property which many believe THEY have a right to use …You want to have the RIGHT to property to use as you wish… YOU buy your own  !!!

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how long before some creative rednecks move a few rocks and push over a gate? 

    • Daryl DeJoy

       or, as they keep suggesting here that they will, start a forest fire on her property….small,small people……

  • Anonymous

    Do what you’ve always done, get what you always got.  Time to think about the future.

  • Anonymous

    Say there’s a fire on her land how will they get pass the rocks or will they just let her land burn  ?

    • Guest

      they dont…. ;-)

  • Daryl DeJoy

     far left wing extremist= open minded, forward looking

  • Anonymous

    did anybody condem Governor Baxter when he donated Baxter State Park way out in the middle of nowhere?

    • Guest

      Is Baxter a Federal Park???

  • Guest

     Ugh…Have you ever heard of a discussion or civil dialogue?  Oops! Look who I’m asking.

  • The solution is simple DarkCat … buy the lands back from her and open it back up to the public.  Short of that, allow her to use HER property as she see fit :-)

  • Yawningattrolls

    This wouldn’t be an issue if we eliminated ownership of private property…..

  • Yawningattrolls

    And yes – I’m a native Mainer.

  • Anonymous

    Access to fires is very difficult with gates and no roads :-/

  • Anonymous

    Compared to the North Maine Woods Inc. that represents more than a dozen large corporate landowners that has gated off the entire north woods, raped the lands – AND charges exorbitant fees to pass through their gates – comparatively speaking, Roxanne Quimby is a mere partridge in a pear tree.

  • Guest

    The bitter old millionaire can do as she wants, but she will never get park.

  • Anonymous

    she cant take it to heaven or hell with her when she dies once she dies oh well 

    • Daryl DeJoy

       It makes me happy that she has kids and family who share her vision.

    •  Thats why she is doing what she is doing.  After she dies her name will live forever in the form of a Roxanne Quimby national park.  I think she is a little self righteous.

  • Anonymous

    Keep that Trailer Trash off.  Good for you. Once they use it ,they think it is theirs to use forever. I don’t see anybody else in Maine letting Trailer Trash destroy their land. You don’t see anybody in Bar Harbor letting  Trailer Trash on to their property do you? They just call the COPS.

  • Anonymous

    She owns it. She pays the taxes. She has the right to gate it off. It I want to gate off and post my land, I sure as heck want to retain that right. Some may not like it because they use the land, but pure and simple, if it’s her land, and the road is not a public way, then she should be free to do what she wants with it. 

    • Anonymous

      Up north land has always been accessable to everybody regardless of who owns it, it has changed hands quite a few times, but everybody has had access.  This changes everything.
      Why do we have LURC and why do many people favor local control?  This is exactly why, so some liberal elitest doesn’t come in and ruin a way of life, the economy, livlihoods, etc.
      Hunting, fishing, and other outdoor activities rights should be preserved in the massive unorganized areas of Maine, regardless of who owns the land.  If we don’t do something it will soon be gone.

    • Anonymous

      I hope that if there are ponds on her land that the state will not stock those ponds with fish

  • Anonymous

    This is not news, when an owner wants to restrict access to their property. Get off the issue. She owns it, pays taxes on it and had legal control. If all the complainers wanted it they should have bought it before she did.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a typical Tea Party comment – “if you don’t agree with me then you can leave and your not Patriotic.”   Not the American way darkcat33!

  • Anonymous

    If you notice at the end of the article it says, “Smith said he believes that the land newly gated would be given to the state for multiuse trails and motorized recreational under Quimby’s apparently dormant plan to create a national park near Baxter State Park” No surprise there. RQ is using her usual tactic of telling us “my way or no way”. She blocks off land and uses it to blackmail people into submission to her will. Make no mistake, RQ’s plan is not “dormant”. They are regrouping and poised for attack with full intentions of winning at all costs. We need to stay strong. It isn’t really about what RQ wants to do with her land, it is about what RQ wants to make happen with her land-that will forever change the north Maine woods as we know it and the livlihood of all who live here.

  • Guest

    Sour much?

  • Anonymous

    “destroy jobs?”

  • Anonymous

    I tend to vote republican but more importantly I support what makes sense to me.  I have a camp on 60 acres of land.  The road is quite long and remote.  My camp has been broken into several times, atv’s tore up the road, beer cans all over the place, and my favorite was when a hunter who had put his tree stand up within a 100 yards of mine argued with me that I was messing with his hunting area!  I ended up gating the mouth of my access road.  The problem is that atv’s blazed a trail around the gate and everything continued.  I ended up having to put a 2nd gate up a few hundred yards where a bog crosses in order to keep people out just to protect my investment. 

    Im not a fan of Quimby at all and I dont agree with alot of things she’s proposing.  However, its HER LAND!  Who are we to tell her that she cant gate her own property.  Personally, I wish she would open some of it up for recreation use if people could be respectful but it will never happen.  Its a few die hards that cant see the big picture that make the rest of us look bad.  If the people posting are all worried about the working man…work harder, make more money, and buy the land yourself!  You all preach that there should be no hand-outs (I agree to a point) but arent you all asking for a hand-out yourself by wanting to use Quimby’s land as if it were your own?   

  • Anonymous

    Must be the new agenda..Tax tree huggers, kick them off their land and give it to the righteous Right to strip mine or build a useless highway on.  LOL  The new definition of Democracy.

  • It’s her land!   Period.  If some lumber company decided they wanted to cut down the trees on your little 1/10th of an acre there is no doubt that property rights would suddenly become very important. 

    Her land.  Period.

    • Guest

      she has her land in tree harvest, the old girl should do some real harvesting, and not the sham she is pulling

    •  You are absolutely right it is her land she can do what she wishes,  don’t try to shove a national park down Maines throat.  A little self righteous don’t you think?

  • Anonymous

    I think we should just put up a gate on I 95 north by hogan road exit everyone wants a park let it start right there

  • Anonymous

    Maine should dump the tree growth plain !!! And then lets see how longs she keeps her land ,without the big tax break she’s getting .

    • Guest

      or just mandate that real harvesting happen, and not the sham she is pulling

  • Anonymous

    I think you should do more research on the East-West Highway!!  It’s likely that the “industrial corridor” that it’s being touted as will cut right through many properties in its path, and it is certainly not the answer to “getting back at” Quimby. It’s her land, she bought it.  There are many large landowners in the State and she’s no different from any of them.

  • Anonymous

    This what will be left of Maine after a complete liberal takeover.

    • Guest

      thats what her plan is….

  • Anonymous

    http://www.yankeemagazine.com/issues/2008-03/features/quimby/all

    For all of you so eager to stand for RQ and her private property rights-

     

    “Most of Roxanne’s plan is somewhat counterintuitive. She returns to the bees of her past: “To me, ownership and private property were the beginning of the end in this country. Once the Europeans came in, drawing lines and dividing things up, things started getting exploited and overconsumed. But a park takes away the whole issue of ownership. It’s off the table; we all own it and we all share it. It’s so democratic.””

    IT IS NOT ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY- IT IS ABOUT RESTORE

    From RESTORE’s St. Pierre- “Roxanne has repeatedly said she would like to see the lands she has acquired become the seeds of a new national park. ”

    ” These are plots of land she has bought. There are others she hopes to buy. Some are scattered and separate. By bargaining and swapping, she is trying to put together a whole. In concert with RESTORE, what she has in mind is a national park. “I feel like my reason for being put on this earth will have been fulfilled because this will live on after me. A park is a demonstration that there is something in America that I can love,” ”

    “Roxanne, now the undisputed queen bee of the North Woods, returns to the map: “These two pieces of land here effectively stop all east—west traffic. This bridge, the Whetstone Bridge, here — it’s one of the very significant nails in the coffin because it’s the only way to get across the river for something like 30 miles. Okay, you can go over the bridge, but you can’t go across my land with a car. So you can have your bridge, but it ain’t doin’ you any good. I’m closing in, and I’m doing this to demonstrate that you cannot leave this to chance.””

    It is about RQ having control of the north Maine woods and pushing people around with her money.

  • Anonymous

    plain and simple……I hate roxanne Quimby!

  • MA-NE.net: QUIMBY’S GATED “NATIONAL PARK”…

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to know how she is taxed on her land?

  • Guest

    After reading a good amount of these comments  that majority agree that Quimby should be able to do what she wants with her property and everyone else needs to get over it. So why does it continue to be news? BDN a little low on drama today?

  • Guest

    I own a parcel of land in Carmel (We don’t live there) that we cut off from vehicle traffic but not for hikers, hunters, snow sleds, or people on ATVs. Trash is carried in by trucks most of the time-we stopped that. Over the years people have dumped metal there, but came back to get most of it  when scrap became valuable. Most people, especailly the neighbors respect our land and use and protect it as though they own  it themselves.

  • Anonymous

    “Land that she owns”…I don’t think that you really need to say any more than that.  If you want acres of property to play on, maybe you should buy some.  Honestly, I can’t blame her for wanting to separate herself and her very own property from the dregs of society who will destroy it and pollute it.  Unfortunately, there are very few who will pick up after themselves or even respect any guidelines that one may lay out.  Let alone the risk that she takes if she allows recreation on the property, because the second someone gets hurt, she is going to be sued for millions.  Honestly, I would like to give her a high five. 

  • Since there is a willingness to donate land to the public along with a giant trust fund, why not donate it to the State of Maine to either add to Baxter or to create a second state park if people are concerned about diluting the Baxter image?

    The state is much more consistent politically than the federal government from administration to administration and party to party. The state is more frugal with their money and there are many, many people here in Maine capable of providing world class land management and extensive expertise in public education, nature interpretation, historic preservation and recreation programs.  Maine story tellers and artists are famous worldwide as is the work ethic of Maine people. 

    What the National Park Service could do for Maine and every state is to partner with the state/commonwealth park services and develop allied and complimentary marketing to the two different systems.  This would be an efficient use of taxpayer funds and an excellent way to lure people from Japan, China, and Brazil as Mr. Ken Salazar, head of the Dept of Interior is trying to do as his part to help move the economy forward.  He is marketing the clean environment and beautiful lands of our great nation to improve tourism.

    We believe Mainers would be much more inclined to support conservation by other Mainers than by politicians from other states. 

  • Anonymous

    That should be “Millionaire real estate developer and landowner Roxanne Quimby”

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Kumbaya strummers and OWSers love her.

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